Put on your waders lizards. The fascist will be here any minute.

Learn from history: avoid fascists, and those you agree with them.

Charles -

Pray Tell - What Should Europe Do? With ALL Due Respect. My response would be to restrict Immigration form MUSLIM MAJORITY Nations and to encourage "indigenous" reproduction. If all 'y'all have a BETTER IDEA - Please Share.

-S-

OT (sorry)

Just read some transcript of Hillary's swan song....

"Today as I suspend my campaign..."

When is "Suspend" the same as "end"?

Waiting for that BIG other shoe to drop on Obama.
Should be about 3 days before Denver...

Scarcely had the French Parliament transposed [into the French Constitution] three directives from the EU on the fight against discrimination, than the European Parliament adopted a resolution calling on the European Commission to decree a new directive, this one against all discrimination, direct and indirect, and adding to its catalogue the designation of "multiple discrimination."

Well- I can see how that would be a problem for mr le pen- makes it much harder to discriminate against the Jews, doesn't it, you Holocaust denying scumbag?

Charles,

How about some hate mail updates from our "teammates" at Vlaams Belang?

re: #6 AmeriDan

Charles,

How about some hate mail updates from our "teammates" at Vlaams Belang?

"A-D" -

"Vlaams Belang" is not exactly a 'teammate' - at best like Vichy France.

-S-

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

Charles -

Pray Tell - What Should Europe Do? With ALL Due Respect. My response would be to restrict Immigration form MUSLIM MAJORITY Nations and to encourage "indigenous" reproduction. If all 'y'all have a BETTER IDEA - Please Share.

-S-

How much money would the politicians have to leave at the table?

re: #5 Sharmuta

There's a huge problem with the concept of banning direct and indirect discrimination.

re: #7 Dr. Shalit

"A-D" -

"Vlaams Belang" is not exactly a 'teammate' - at best like Vichy France.

-S-

/sarc was implied

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

Charles -

Pray Tell - What Should Europe Do? With ALL Due Respect. My response would be to restrict Immigration form MUSLIM MAJORITY Nations and to encourage "indigenous" reproduction. If all 'y'all have a BETTER IDEA - Please Share.

-S-

It's not necessary for me to come up with some kind of magic solution for Europe's problems, in order to know that the solution is NOT a return to fascism.

Glad there's a new thread. Charles, you are a busy guy today. Isn't it time for a bike ride? I can't keep up with you--and I'm on the east coast!

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

The first step is to cut welfare benefits and taxes.

re: #8 akak

akak -

Whatever the amount - follow it, follow it, follow it!

-S-

I'm waiting for the Fascist vs Islamofascist European cage match

re: #15 Shug

I'm waiting for the Fascist vs Islamofascist European cage match

I hope it is a draw, with lots of pain on both sides.

re: #7 Dr. Shalit

Also, note the quote marks around "teammates".

Regards,
AD

re: #11 Charles

It's not necessary for me to come up with some kind of magic solution for Europe's problems, in order to know that the solution is NOT a return to fascism.

Exactly. Besides, it's their continent, and it's up to them to decide if they want to solve their problems. Look at Ireland; once they decided to tackle their problems, instead of saying, "Well, that didn't work, so let's do it some more!" they improved their economy and everything else.

It goes so far as to claim that different treatment based on nationality or language can constitute indirect racial or ethnic discrimination.

Ah- here's the real problem. The fascists and nazis want to dictate who belongs in the state- who are superior citizens, and who is second class. For fascists- equal treatment under the law is the antithesis of their ideology.

Speaking of who is linking whom, under "Who's Saying What About the Tundra Tabloids" one finds these, among others:

"...One of my favorite European blogs is Tundra Tabloids by KGS. It features news on the Middle East, Islamists, etc. that you won't find elsewhere..."
- Debbie Schlussel

"...My friend, KGS, at Tundra Tabloids..."
"...KGS, I kiss you..."
- Atlas Shrugs

The future of Eurabia is very dark, again!

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

What Should Europe Do?

Expose Islam for what it truly is - LGF does a pretty good job of that. More must be done on the front lines - EU. The more citizens understand the goal of Islam, the more likely they will reject Islam.

Ex-muslims who are a positive contribution to society are a good thing.

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

Not sure if any thing can be done any more.

re: #9 Dianna

There's a huge problem with the concept of banning direct and indirect discrimination.

I'm not trying to defend the eu here- just pointing out why a Holocaust denying scumbag like le pen would have a problem with it.

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

For starters, how about educating the public about how Islam is not just another religion, but an existential threat to Western Civilization.

The next ten years will be very interesting in Europe.

How long will the good citizens of EU nations sit by while their collective communities are hijacked by extremists immigrating and not even making an effort to assimilate into the host countries?

I can already hear the goose-stepping soldiers marching down the streets of Europe again.....

So long as these European troglodytes see their problem in terms of race, they are doomed.

Islam is not a race.

They would bring wild wolves into their houses to protect them from the wild wolves without.

In the end, they will just become lunch.

"re: #3 Dr. Shalit

What Should Europe Do?

Expose Islam for what it truly is - LGF does a pretty good job of that. More must be done on the front lines - EU. The more citizens understand the goal of Islam, the more likely they will reject Islam.

Ex-muslims who are a positive contribution to society are a good thing."

And, as Charles has pointed out, not hope into bed with fascist nutjobs to spread the word about Islam.

hope hop

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

That will do little to help, imo. Europe's problem is socialism, and until they confront the real source of their problems, we'll continue to see the fascist tactic of scapegoating the "others".

This is certainly a prime example of the "progressive" ideology (as described by Clinton, Obama and many others on the left) taken to its logical conclusion. Or at least pretty far along towards its conclusion.

The conclusion of progressive, PC, et cetera, is the destruction of the society. They aren't quite there. Yet.

re: #24 Sharmuta

I see that. It's a bad idea, though, no matter who is suggesting it.

re: #25 rawmuse

For starters, how about educating the public about how Islam is not just another religion, but an existential threat to Western Civilization.

Seeing Islam as just another religion is the cause of much Western complacency. People are lead to believe that this is a 'Peaceful Religion",
hijacked by a teeny, tiny minority.
Islam widely teaches hate in mosques etc & the Koran is the road map.
All Muslims are not advocates of violence, but it does seem that there is a direct correlation between piousness & violence

re: #11 Charles

Charles -

Regarding FASCISM - Agreed. Perhaps Europe will get an Idea about "Borders, Language, Culture" - that is BOTH civilized and effective.
Certainly we are still working on it here in the USA. And, let's get down to the burlap - a "Union of North America" has existed since the NAFTA treaty on an economic basis, CUBA excepted. Moving from there to political union is more difficult. This is the situation the EU finds itself in, partial currency union notwithstanding. Both the EU and the "UNA" , and Japan, India, Israel and to some limited extent China share a basically John Lockean vision of society. The "UMMAH" does NOT. There my friend lies the "opportunity."

-S-

"I hate Belgian Nazi's"
/Jake

My pastor just returned from a conference in Germany.
Said that Europeans (and Germans in particular) are pretty much bewildered.
- Indigenous population averages 1 birth per family.
- Immigrant families (the huge majority of whom are from Muslim Turkey) have an average if 6 or 7 births per family.

Gee, what could have caused such a shift?
Couldn't be any of the leftist crap the EU has been spewing, could it?

Years and years of PC smack is bearing fruit, and the basic European world-view has blinded them. The can't/won't see it for the cultural suicide they're taking part in.

Sharmuta; I don't think europeans are capable of solving the problem of socialism. While the US saw huge numbers of europeans immigrating during the 18 and 19 hundreds, more europeans stayed behind in their old post feudal society. I think today's socialism comforts some deep-seated need for the serfs that remained.

Some of the "fellow travelers" might have come to the conclusion that this is the only standing opponent to EU servitude, and its acceptance of Islamic slave shackles for the peons.
I am not there, so the immanent nature of the issue doesn't hit me the same way it does, say, Gates of Vienna.
Even the US got into bed with "Uncle Joe" Stalin when the need was great enough. and certainly didn't backstab him during the conflict.
I don't live in Europe, so I don't have to live with the consequences of fourth class "citizenship" under Eu servitude to Islamic overlords.
Those facing just that might have made choices we here in the US have not had to face (yet)(although if El Presidente Open Borders has his way it is coming here)

'Artki' really hates the open threads. I'm watching in the Spy as he dings down every one on the front page. Heh.

re: #11 Charles

I'm British, and though continental Europeans have different concepts of freedoms than we do (we're catching up...), that's always been their sadness -- their poverty of political choices.

Can you imagine having been European during the Spanish Civil War, and being forced to choose between Facism or Communism? The choice of Solomon. Ghastly.

From the spinoffs:
Meetbarackobama
Click the "resume" icon to view several GOP ads. Fullscreen works well.

re: #36 least

least -

Make it real easy - NO DOLE to "migrants" = Less Live Births. Malthusian, AND effective.

-s-

The movement to resist the jihad is a mainstream movement. It is not the fringe.

re: #39 Charles

The early morning open got 2 dings. Heh.

re: #42 Dr. Shalit

As I said above, the dole needs to be cut, period. Pensions are also a problem, but the dole is the real killer.

I can only imagine how clueless I would be if forced to get 100% of my news from CNN or the CBC. This site covers topics that are never discussed on the telly, and I am grateful for its existence.

Now, crush the fascists. And hope that sane moderate voices arise in Europe to sensibly deal with the looming problems.

re: #37 rabidfox

Sharmuta; I don't think europeans are capable of solving the problem of socialism. While the US saw huge numbers of europeans immigrating during the 18 and 19 hundreds, more europeans stayed behind in their old post feudal society. I think today's socialism comforts some deep-seated need for the serfs that remained.

Is that a psychologicial gulf that will prove too wide and deep for us to overcome in helping Europeans stay free from Islam?

With you on this. The chasm between reason and extremism widens weekly. Brussels Journal was always suspiciously uneven and has been off my list for months now as its true colors continue to emerge. Ugly sight, not entertaining or the least bit interesting.

So yet again we see Europe cycle from good intentions to restraint to repression, and then as a direct result their journey into familiar extremes. It's all happened before and will again. Nex

OT from our Fascist bashing...

God, what a beautiful horse!

Big Brown poised for Triple Crown Bid

The author of this piece says:

"Positive action" is what Americans call "affirmative action". Note also the term "equality of outcomes", a totally fallacious and evil attempt to make everyone "equal".

They miss the point. It is wrong to legislate an "equality of outcomes", but not because "making everyone equal" is evil. Everyone should be equal in the eyes of the law. Dictating that there should be an "equality of outcomes" is not upholding the law. But to think that it's evil to make everyone equal is an appalling slip of the tongue.

This would be more comical if it weren't so troubling- the (eu) fascists are fighting the (crypto) fascists who are opposed to the (islamo) fascists. No where do I see any of these people standing up for the rule of law. The islamofascists don't think women or infidels are equal, the crypto-fascists don't think muslims or immigrants are equal, and the eu-fascists only think those who are equal are whoever they decide to be equal that day. What a mess.

Ugh, we are being punched from both the left and the right today.

re: #49 Maximu§

He looks so much like Man-O-War it takes my breath. And he runs like Secretariat, almost like a bicycle in the way his feet hit the ground in sequence.

Big Brown's just amazing.

re: #3 Dr. Shalit

Pray Tell - What Should Europe Do? With ALL Due Respect. My response would be to restrict Immigration form MUSLIM MAJORITY Nations and to encourage "indigenous" reproduction. If all 'y'all have a BETTER IDEA - Please Share.

-S-

The first step is to admit you have a problem.

Considering the PC winds in Europe, that's an extremely difficult one.

And part of the problem is that denying it with PC-correctness feeds the fascist extreme right.

re: #40 vbspurs

their poverty of political choices

.

Some sad shit right there.

re: #51 ContraJihadi

Ugh, we are being punched from both the left and the right today.

Nothing wrong with that. I enjoy irritating the far left and the far right. LOL.

re: #41 Racer X

Racer X -

If I actually MET him, I am sure we would have quite a 'Bull-Session' over a couple of "OE Fourtys and Kools/Newports" - We would still disagree on a lot of stuff - AND - I would still vote for "Cactus Jack" McCain. Perhaps with some seasoning he might become "Ready for Prime Time."
Took me 20+years to come around - so hope springs eternal. Just imagine Obama as David Horowitz, II. Put your intention on it.

-S-

re: #52 Dianna

He looks so much like Man-O-War it takes my breath. And he runs like Secretariat, almost like a bicycle in the way his feet hit the ground in sequence.

Big Brown's just amazing.

Now, now, this is no Secretariat. Amazing horse, but not S!

re: #25 rawmuse

For starters, how about educating the public about how Islam is not just another religion, but an existential threat to Western Civilization.

Just an observation, but if you were to substitute Islam for Judaism in that statement, we'd be somewhere Europe has been before and it didn't work out so well.

Seriously..... Do you really want Europeans thinking along those lines again?

re: #40 vbspurs

I'm British, and though continental Europeans have different concepts of freedoms than we do (we're catching up...), that's always been their sadness -- their poverty of political choices.

Can you imagine having been European during the Spanish Civil War, and being forced to choose between Facism or Communism? The choice of Solomon. Ghastly.

Er, I don't think Solomon chopped the two women in half, which would have been appropriate here.

re: #50 Sharmuta

The author glided by the "desired impossible leading to the inevitable, disastrous possible" (Heinlein) as well.

re: #51 ContraJihadi

Ugh, we are being punched from both the left and the right today.

And both extremes paint themselves as victims.

I swear, if ever again I hear a person on the political stage casting himself as a victim instead of asserting a positive program and explaining why I should embrace it, I am going to plant a whole patch of tomatoes, harvest them, and sell the spoiled ones to The People's Cube.

re: #58 Wishbone

Just an observation, but if you were to substitute Islam for Judaism in that statement, we'd be somewhere Europe has been before and it didn't work out so well.

Seriously..... Do you really want Europeans thinking along those lines again?

You equate Islam and Judaism?

re: #48 Nexx9

With you on this. The chasm between reason and extremism widens weekly. Brussels Journal was always suspiciously uneven and has been off my list for months now as its true colors continue to emerge. Ugly sight, not entertaining or the least bit interesting.

This was always my problem with Theo van Gogh. How can you not admire such courage as he had, in the end? But he had a nihilistic attitude, who hated anything he perceived as 'establishment' -- hardly in tune with my conservatism.

But you see, this is precisely the type of European who would be more pro-America in this clash of civilisations. It's sometimes hard for me to accept that.

re: #40 vbspurs

I'm British, and though continental Europeans have different concepts of freedoms than we do (we're catching up...), that's always been their sadness -- their poverty of political choices.

Can you imagine having been European during the Spanish Civil War, and being forced to choose between Facism or Communism? The choice of Solomon. Ghastly.

* * *
Yes, Spain's Civil War was ghastly but consider the excellent result.

Because Spaniards rejected communism at a horrible cost, Spain became a democracy before the Soviet Union did. Today, impoverished Ukrainians and Russians and Romanians come to wealthy Spain to work as maids, gardners, chauffeurs.

Spain may have gotten fascism for forty years--full of American/European influence, American bases, contact with Westerners, and finally a return to democracy in 1975, twenty years before the Communists failed.

re: #49 Maximu§

re: #57 The Shadow Do

There's similarities, but he doesn't have quite the same quality. His stride's not as smooth - he picks up and bounds at the end, which Secretariat didn't do - but Big Brown's a pretty amazing horse.

re: #58 Wishbone

"Wish" -

There is ONE DIFFERENCE - the Jews in Europe never saw themselves as an "avant garde" of a takeover. The Muslims DO. Go from there and everything else becomes apparent.

-S-

o/t So, what happened to the comments spy? Darn it. Everytime I take a night off to sleep, something changes. I liked that feature.

re: #52 Dianna

He looks so much like Man-O-War it takes my breath. And he runs like Secretariat, almost like a bicycle in the way his feet hit the ground in sequence.

Big Brown's just amazing.

I agree, I have it on ESPN right now...the race has not started yet. It looks like Casino Drive ridden by
jockey Edgar Prado will be the strongest competition.

re: #62 itellu3times

No......... You just choose to believe I did, it seems. Regardless, the essential point was how such thinking has been visited before and, while I basically understand what Rawmuse was trying to say, I'm questioning how wise it would be to instil such thinking into the European population.

re: #37 rabidfox

Sharmuta; I don't think europeans are capable of solving the problem of socialism. While the US saw huge numbers of europeans immigrating during the 18 and 19 hundreds, more europeans stayed behind in their old post feudal society. I think today's socialism comforts some deep-seated need for the serfs that remained.

I don't think the US can solve the problems it has with socialism either, nor am I hopeful that we can resist making them worse with ever-expanding "free" services. No matter what small steps the US makes to halt or turn back the tide, the drive leftward seems to proceed apace.

I am afraid that the real problem is universal suffrage. Don't get me wrong. I'm not for abolishing it and I don't know how anyone could. I just think the cranky old conservatives that warned us about it were right. As soon as you set up a system where the majority can vote themselves "benefits" out of the treasury, the game is over. It's only a matter of time.

re: #65 itellu3times

You think the for the first time in her life, Michelle may be proud of America's horses?

Yeah, but those other cracker horses have no business in the race.
This should just be a set aside.America is so mean.

re: #66 Dianna

There's similarities, but he doesn't have quite the same quality. His stride's not as smooth - he picks up and bounds at the end, which Secretariat didn't do - but Big Brown's a pretty amazing horse.

Root'in for 'em Dianna. Triple Crown is wonderfully special.

re: #58 Wishbone

Just an observation, but if you were to substitute Islam for Judaism in that statement, we'd be somewhere Europe has been before and it didn't work out so well.

Seriously..... Do you really want Europeans thinking along those lines again?

The Nazis were racialists. They were against the Jews as a "race." It didn't matter if a Jew was a convert to Catholicism. For that matter, an "Aryan" who was a convert to Judaism wouldn't have been rounded up.
What the National Socialists and the PC crowd have in common is their racialism. Islam is not a race. It is a radical anti-Western ideology which condones violent overthrow of European institutions.

re: #64 alegrias

* * *
Yes, Spain's Civil War was ghastly but consider the excellent result.

The same is true in Chile, which today flourishes and even has (ironically) a socialist lady President.

But freedom-loving people have to be wary of the pendulum swing -- Spain today, with its noon-hour porn television and Almodovaresque culture, is unrecognisable from 1975. This is at heart the problem with the Brussels Journal: they're trying to stop the pendulum with a mallet.

re: #68 katemaclaren

(OT) At the bottom of the post, see
digg this . newsvine . reddit . del.icio.us . tags . spy . email this article

Also, look at bottom of the Login/out area at top left:
LGF Spy (beta 5)

re: #67 Dr. Shalit

Fair point Doc, but when we say 'the' Muslims, does that mean it's prerequisite to assume 'all' Muslims are guilty of such actions. If everyone in Europe suddenly, overnight, fervently believed that Muslims were such aggressors, as you say, do you think Europeans would be politely asking them to leave and waiting patiently until the last one is on the boat 'home?'

What sort of action, in the face of such widespread belief in such a notion, could we really expect? I'm not sure I'd want to see that, to be honest.

re: #64 alegrias

Spain did not get fascism for 40 years. Despite Franco's use of Mussolini-style imagery and rhetoric during his first decade, he was never a true fascist. The first thing he did when he consolidated his power was to destroy the Falange as anything other than a cute political club w/ no more power than the average Moose Lodge.
Franco was a soldier above all else. (He was a practicing Roman Catholic who deliberately distanced himself from Mussolini's attacks on the papacy.)
What Spain got was 40 years of military dictatorship that became progressively lighter as the years rolled on.
El caudillo was a bastard, especially in his early days, but he was no ideologue intent on building a brave new world.

re: #37 rabidfox

Sharmuta; I don't think europeans are capable of solving the problem of socialism. While the US saw huge numbers of europeans immigrating during the 18 and 19 hundreds, more europeans stayed behind in their old post feudal society. I think today's socialism comforts some deep-seated need for the serfs that remained.

I'm also not so certain they can over come socialism, but it is the root of the problem, nevertheless. They use socialism as a "Third Way" between American capitalism and communism, but I see it as communism-lite. And talk about an equality of outcomes! Their economic system prevents prevents the cream from rising to the top and keeps the middle class firmly penned into their pre-existing situation. And that's how progressives like it.

The middle classes of europe are stuck where they are, dependent on the government to help them, because they government takes from them as much as they give back (if not less), and there is no incentive to get out of the middle class because the government will take even more.

We constantly hear how the euros should breed more, but how are they to pay for those children? How are they to care for them? Mothers cannot afford to stay home- they have a government to fund. They need free markets and tax reform- that's not socialism, it's capitalism, which the euros seem to think is too American and cruel. Capitalism will not help them completely with socialism and fascists, although it would go a long way to curing their ills in that capitalism favors free people and individualism. And it is protection of individual rights, and not collective rights, that they need to embrace.

re: #74 wolfie

Again, fair point made. But can you imagine the 'mob mind, if you will, making such distinctions? When things get out of hand, rational debate is the first thing to go right out the window.

re: #79 Sharmuta

With reference to the 'third way' and 'communism lite,' Melanie Phillips wrote a good article some time back, looking at the mythical 'middle ground' of British politics that every politico seemed to be fighting over at the time. She pointed out that, rather than having the Tories and Labour fighting it out from their respective traditional positions, equidistant upon the political scale, the so called 'middle ground' was merely 'lefty lite' and that it was disturbing that a party calling itself Conservative should aspire to such political aspirations.

Disturbing indeed.

Socialism is a virus, and Europe is sick.

This virus cripples Europe's immune system, making Europe more susceptible to other invaders, such as the bacterial infection of fascism in whatever form - white power or Islamofascism.

You can't fight a virus with an infection. However, an infection can cripple or kill the body that is weakened by a virus.

We in the USA have a strong immune system - our Constitution and Bill of Rights. We ALSO have antibiotics - our system of checks and balances, our laws, and our powers as individual citizens - not to mention our KNOWLEDGE of our powers.

The body of Europe, to be healthy, must do what is needed to strenghten its immune system. There are a few who are trying, but unfortunately they are a minority at this time. Therefore, the infection that is fascism - whatever strain - has its hot eye on Europe as a tasty snack.

re: #51 ContraJihadi

Ugh, we are being punched from both the left and the right today.

huh?

But does Brussels Journal endorse his fascist views? It may but I haven't noticed it. The link simply provides a source of the information of anti-liberal policies, one that BJ and the FN happen to share.

Last week the British Columbia Human Rights Council had their Kangaroo Court hearing regarding the MacLeans /Mark Steyn article. The Complainants where having a hard time coming up with evidence so they logged on the the Brussels Journal.

Brussels Journal

11:45 AM The hearing now turns to readings from various blogs I’ve never heard of: The Brussels Journal, .......

And at last Porter gets to do his cross-examination. He points out that neither of them know anything about “Fjordman,” the author of the Brussels Journal post. However, we do know who Col. Khadafy is. And now he’s about to ask him, “would it bother you to know about Dr. Munir al Kasem (another member of the Canadian Islamic Congress), who in Feb. 2000 –”

Andrew Coyne Liveblogging Steyn/Macleans

Geez, late again. However, we've had these fascism threads before and I see absolutely no reason at all to change my position on this: I don't want and won't allow any fascists in my foxhole. Period.
Europeans are gonna have to figure something out for themselves, but going from Socialism to Fascism is a HUGE step backwards and maybe, just maybe, slowly cutting down the the nanny state benefits TO ALL but the neediest would be a good way to start improving the situation over there.
I don't know European politics all that well, except I don't see anything there that resembles a true conservative movement (in the spirit of say William F. Buckley Jr., (RIP)) but it there is one, I'd encourage all our European friends to embrace IT not fascism, not communism and not socialism either. Start by celebrating true freedom of speech and worship. Then start examing why, in spite of the US's bearing the overwhelming burden of Europe's military defense, most socialist European nations are just barely getting by. And don't be shocked if you see capitalism sneaking in.

re: #86 realwest

My position on this when it all started to heat up, was, I was looking for a bunch of Belgians, etc., who didn't want/like the fascists speaking for them, to gain their voices and split way with support of lgf and other communities aware of the jihadi invasion. Including support from what I knew of Gates of Vienna at that time. Alas time has not revealed such a Belgian bunch; has me even more concerned for the future of Europe.

re: #84 marsouin

But does Brussels Journal endorse his fascist views? It may but I haven't noticed it. The link simply provides a source of the information of anti-liberal policies, one that BJ and the FN happen to share.

When you publish the writing of a known Holocaust denier and fascist, yes, you are endorsing them. You're not seriously suggesting that someone can just "impartially" use a neo-Nazi as a source, are you?

Really, fascists and postmodernists are essentially the same thing. Pomos emphasize race and culture as being above the individual and so do fascists. They are both collectivists.

The difference is that postmodernists are anti-Western (the West is presumed evil) and so they elevate every other culture above the West. I really am not surprised by the rise of fascism, since postmodernists are supporting the very premises that make it possible for them to rise. If you set up some race or culture as special and untouchable (e.g. muslims in Europe), then there is nothing in logic to prevent others from doing the same thing.

The only cure for this madness is reason and individual rights, where each individual is left free from coercion by the state to follow his own goals and dreams. By individual rights I mean Lockean rights as per the Declaration of Independence.

And in their sidebar: a link to a British BNP-affiliated forum that is openly racist.

Add "amazing clueless" to that description. I actually went over this forum and found one thread with several Pat Condell YouTube rants posted, including this one noted here at LGF.

I know these BNP lackeys didn't even bother to watch it -- a video that they post on their site. (I'm not linking to them.)

I'll try my best to transcribe Pat Condell's words (from 4:27-4:57 in this video):

So to any white supremacist morons out there who think that they can latch on to this video in the way that they've attempted to in some of my previous videos, go and take a piss on a live electric rail, because I am not your friend -- I am your enemy, and I'm proud to be your enemy. Just as I'm proud to be the enemy of every creepy Islamofascist on this planet. Because you people are two sides of the same coin, and it's an evil, worthless, poisonous currency that I want nothing to do with.

Seriously, how much do they really care about what Pat's saying if they're not even going catch an repudiation like this? And posted on their own damn forum…

I attended a Scottish Festival in Arlington, Texas last night. The vendors were selling lots of stuff in the form of celtic crosses or with the crosses on them, including jewelry, sporrans and other leather items, wood carvings, etc.

All those Scottish Texans must be fascists, eh?

I see the usual apologists are showing up right on cue.

re: #91 JungleJim

It's been shown over and over the cross these guys use isn't a Celtic cross.

We're onto that one. Try another.

re: #86 realwest

Yes, they're going to have to dump their welfare state. They're going to have to start forming families again, and stop importing foreign workers and they're going to have to rediscover their Christian/Renaissance/Enlightenment non-socialist, non-neo-Nazi past.

I don't see much hope for Europe, otherwise. And, unfortunately, I don't see them doing much of the above, either.

/Yes, and trying capitalism would be a good idea, too.

re: #77 Wishbone

Well, here's some thing's you could try (and I believe they've all been suggested before).

1. Dump crooked politicos such as George Galloway and Red Ken (sounds like you've done the latter), who favor immigration, multiculturalism and are often in Saudi pockets.

And the Labour Party needs to go.

Oh yeah, and could you please stop sending not-so-bonny Prince Chuckles over here, to lecture us about our insensitivity to the Arab world? I know you think he's not important, but too many moonbats here, and elsewhere, take him seriously. Stuff a sock in his mouth, please.

3. Dump your welfare system.

4. Start marrying and having families.

5. Start deporting all those mad mullahs in your mosques who call for death to the Jews, and war against America. Look, you can at least do that much, can't you?

6. Re-discover your Christian/Renaissance/Shakespearean/Englightenment past.

re: #27 Maximu§

I can already hear the goose-stepping soldiers marching down the streets of Europe again.....

They won't be native Europeans, though. More likely they will be waving green flags with a half-moon...

re: #70 Wishbone

Wishobone, no one's ever said the Europeans should go back to thinking that way. In fact, if you'll read this thread, and the accompanying post, you'll realize that most of here oppose Europe's going back that way.

Also, I