Will they be identified if they're not convicted?

All your Canada are belong to us.

Did the Canadian HRC hear this?

We have ignored iSlam, at our peril. Time to wake up.

Wiretaps?

**fainting**

Would "RIGHTBACKATCHA" be politically incorrect?

-S-

Toronto Anti-Human Rights Commission steps into the fray!

Neither Dem or Repub will do anything to stop iSlam from flowing into our country.....we should be banning any iSlamics from entering America...imho

After 9/11all immigation should have stopped to the U.S & Canada until things got sorted out.
It is not hateful just to try to protect your citizens.

Religion of peace!

Religion of Murder, Slavery, Extortion, Bribery, Cruelty and Bloodshed.

re: #6 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

Considering the Mark Steyn Case - in Canada - probably so - PM Harper, notwithstanding. Comments?

-S-

"another group member said. “If the guy walking down the street says, pro Zion, pro Zion . . . wears a big Jewish thing saying, yeah, pro Israeli state . . . okay, now you’re a target."

that and if you happen to be an eight year old eating pizza then yes you are a target

They view ALL of us as the enemy. That is why it is okay for them to plot against us and try to kill us. There is no retribution from Allah for this - there is instead great reward. They see themselves not as murderers but as avengers of Mohammed and his pedophilic god.

They discussed the benefits of martyrdom

Bet that was a short discussion.

There is no man but one US candidate for Commander In Chief who recognizes these people and their radical violent ideology as a threat that must be defeated.

And Joe Lieberman is his wing-man!

(The Suha Arafat Kissing Candidate who co-hosted Yasser Keffiyeh Arafat for eight years in the Lincoln Bedroom, and did not recognize the First Attacks on the World Trade Center fifteen years ago and throughout the Clinton Presidency, has thrown support behind Mr. See No Enemy, Hear No Enemy as of earlier today)

I know...why don't we just make it against the law to criticize iSlam....that will fix everything.

re: #7 pat

Actually this is taking place in a REAL court of law in Canada, not an anti-human rights tribunal. What cheeses me off (among a host of other things) is that these guys come across as ludicrous. What the public does not understand is that these idiots get it right some of the time. Also they don't even come close to guessing that Islam is in Canada to establish an Islamic nation. I read it on a mainstream Muslim site two or three years ago. When I published it on a local conservative blog, the notice of the lecture disappeared. The popular lecture was entitled "Canada, One Day an Islamic Nation" These statements have gone underground ever since. The infra-structure is fully developed though. Radical Islam (through soft Jihad) is the predominant theme in Toronto in my opinion. Our governments and population enables it completely so far.

re: #13 mama winger

They view ALL of us as the enemy. That is why it is okay for them to plot against us and try to kill us. There is no retribution from Allah for this - there is instead great reward. They see themselves not as murderers but as avengers of Mohammed and his pedophilic god.

Just two corrections - rather than avengers, I would suggest fanatics. Also, Mohammed (Propeller Beenie Upon Him) is more accurately the pedophile. Allah apparently just condoned it.

But you are correct. Everyone who is not a believer in the same manner are considered legitimate targets and subject to either conversion or death. How that fits into acceptable thought within a supposedly free country escapes me.

So where's the dreaded anti-muslim backlash? When will the Canadians see that this is a straw-man, and go back to protecting free speech?

The contrast between this material and what Steyn's on trial for is stunning.

Quick. Someone alert the Canadian Human Rights Commission!

/Canadian crickets.

In another recorded conversation, the alleged leader explained, “If they’re your enemy, they’re your enemy everywhere you see them.” He continued: “So, if the Jews are your enemy in Israel, it doesn’t mean Jews are not your enemy here. Every single Jew is your enemy.”

In another recorded conversation, the alleged leader explained, “If they’re your enemy, they’re your enemy everywhere you see them.” He continued: “So, if the Jewsmuslims are your enemy in Israel, it doesn’t mean Jews muslims are not your enemy here. Every single Jew muslim is your enemy.”

I'd wish this second version got sent out on the wires by mistake just to see the MSM and CAIR go into froth mode.

It's a good thing that the US News media does not give a shit about Canada except when it is for purposes of making the US look bad, otherwise Americans might have a clue as to what is happening "up North"

re: #17 yenta-fada

It's not just Canada that they envision as becoming an islamic nation, it's any nation that is not an islamic nation today. The mindset of the liberal progressive socialists that such a goal can be negotiated with or is not a viable threat is ridiculous. They have no interest in negotiation - only the achievement of their goal. Their lives are such that only through that achievement do they believe they have purpose.

Bring the Umma home, vote Obama!

look how they try to justify killing an innocent person. they are looking to murder and looking in their koran to find the justification for doing it.
they live in a free society that offers them everything. they don't focus on life and happiness, they focus on murder.

The guy sounds much like a disciple of British mullah Anjum Chaudhry. If there's any distinction, it's in how long his enemies-of-islam list is.

Canada has been following the path of Eurabia to abyss and Islamicization

Muslims who hate and want to kill Jews?

I'm calling Ripley's Believe it or Not.

re: #3 ROP?LOL

HRC is consisted of people like that, u know....

re: #13 mama winger

They view ALL of us as the enemy. That is why it is okay for them to plot against us and try to kill us. There is no retribution from Allah for this - there is instead great reward. They see themselves not as murderers but as avengers of Mohammed and his pedophilic god.

True.I read a good article on why the Islamists feel they retain their honor in France performing terrorism while living on the dole.
The explanation by one guy was incredible.
It is their duty to kill infidels and they cannot work because that would involve taxes to the Infidel & that is harram

re: #23 Athos

Agreed. However, Canadians because they are not a military power, have a large tendency to take the moral high road. That's part of the reason we have so much socialism. Other than high taxes and lax medical care, they have not really paid for their freedom since World War 2. Hence the Anti-Americanism and anti-military stance. We can stick our tongues out at the world because we have the U.S. covering our backs. Don't get me wrong, I don't like seeing Canada lose nationhood and become a branch plant of the U.S. However. the current generations and immigrants do feel more entitled to freedom than they have earned.

There's no negation with Islam, you're either a true believer or an infidel...period, end of story.

That's why I think Islam Is-lame.

“You harm one Muslim, the whole Muslim [nation] has to defend that person,”

Sounds just like the mantra of any street gang like the Crips, the Bloods or MS-13. Their actions parallel each other as well.

So, when is the non-muslim world going to stand together against these cowards and either make them back down or eliminate the threat completely?

re: #15 alegrias

There is no man but one US candidate for Commander In Chief who recognizes these people and their radical violent ideology as a threat that must be defeated.

And Joe Lieberman is his wing-man!

(The Suha Arafat Kissing Candidate who co-hosted Yasser Keffiyeh Arafat for eight years in the Lincoln Bedroom, and did not recognize the First Attacks on the World Trade Center fifteen years ago and throughout the Clinton Presidency, has thrown support behind Mr. See No Enemy, Hear No Enemy as of earlier today)

Great point, alegrias. Many up-dings be upon you.

re: #9 opnion

"o" -

Agreed as to the US - as to Canada - last I looked they are STILL a sovereign nation sometimes mistaken, certainly our "First Cousin," as nations go, as is Australia as well, and Zud Afrika, perhaps. Point is, we cannot make laws for Canada, only ourselves. That is all.

-S-

re: #28 Opinionated

"O" -

Don't waste your time on that one.

-S-

I'm sorry, what part of the phrase "existential threat" need I apologize for? Someone remind me, please.

"After 9/11all immigation should have stopped to the U.S & Canada until things got sorted out.
It is not hateful just to try to protect your citizens."

I totally agree. Here in Toronto we have approximately 350,000 Muslims including 200,000 from Iran.

re: #38 ColdPizza

"After 9/11all immigation should have stopped to the U.S & Canada until things got sorted out.
It is not hateful just to try to protect your citizens."

I totally agree. Here in Toronto we have approximately 350,000 Muslims including 200,000 from Iran.

"C-P" -

I don't vote in your Riding - In fact, I have no franchise in Canada at all. That is as it should be - nor do you have a vote in my Congressional District (NJ 6th - Frank Pallone (D), Congressman). The best we can do is vote locally and think/act Internationally.

-S-

re: #3 ROP?LOL

Did the Canadian HRC hear this?

Ha ha ha ha ha hee hee hee ha ha ha

/Taking a deep breath and wiping tears from eyes

Don't be silly. The CRHC (and the BCHRT and the ARHC and the SHRC...and the NLHRC) will take a complaint from anyone. However, unless the complainer belongs to a protected thin-skinned whiner class, the complaint will go straight into the garbage. Muslims, of course, are protected on 2 counts - race* and religion.

*Yes, I know Islam isn't a race, but then, I'm smarter than your average human rights kommissar.

And so it begins in Canada. I personally feel American Jews better start arming ... it won't be long now ...

Totally OT, but I just posted this.
Clinton is turning into Walter as we watch.

[Link: sfbay.craigslist.org...]

Every single Jew is your enemy?

Well, I don't think I'd get that Jesus fellow and his Father mad at you....

re: #31 yenta-fada

I am a Canadian, originally from Toronto.

There is an institutional inferiority complex with regards the US that has existed since pretty much the start of the Trudeau era. That's when Canada fundamentally changed and embraced socialism and the Euro-mindset as opposed to a North American mindset of individuality, self sufficiency, and liberty.

Canada, like much of Western Europe, has decided that it's perfectly fine to criticize and pull the American tail while resting comfortably in the knowledge that America provides the defense to their sovereignty.

However, in many ways, Canada has accelerated beyond Europe in its embracing of liberal progressive fascism and related self-loathing of who they are and what they have. In many ways, it's a failed nation that just hasn't realized it yet. Elements of Canada still possess the values that built it and made it the country it once was, but unfortunately, other major parts have self-neutered themselves. All they can do now is wait for the bullies to assert themselves. Given the US isn't all that certain of defending itself, depending on the US to defend Canada could be a faulty position.

I don't know that we're doing much better in defending ourselves. Maybe we just need a really big insane asylum for all of these ass baskets - not. Then they'll end up on government-provided psychiatric care, no doubt.

I wish this kind of thing could be played in the media around the clock, just like all the garbage celebrity news that's shoved in our faces every single day.

re: #44 Athos

I am a Canadian, originally from Toronto.

Elements of Canada still possess the values that built it and made it the country it once was, but unfortunately, other major parts have self-neutered themselves.

I lived in Canada as a kid (T dot, O dot too), and my boyfriend is Canadian, so it's a topic close to my heart.

I believe that unlike Belgium and other fractured countries in Europe, which have more conservative ethnic regions, the inherent reason and moderation of Canadians will kick in. As long as you have Alberta, and places which share American ideals like that, Canada will never truly be Canuckistan.

Grapes helps too. :)

re: #47 vbspurs

When I spoke of elements of Canada still having the values, Alberta was one of the places forefront in my mind. Unfortunately, the Federal government still is closer to the vision of Pierre than not. I look at the rest of Canada and I worry about those remaining few who do share those ideals and if they still have the energy to keep fighting.

If the HRC in BC will work to censor Steyn, it's only a matter of time and words before Grapes will come under their or Federal efforts as well.

I hope Canada is not too far gone - but it remains a worry of mine.

This doesnt surprise me one bit. Especially living in Canada.

So, if I (a Christian) wear my "Walk With Israel" T-shirt in public in CANADA, I'm considered a legitimate target by these murderous, Mohammedan, supremacist thugs.

Which direction is Mecca?

/I spit in its general direction.

re: #6 Dr. Shalit

Would "RIGHTBACKATCHA" be politically incorrect?

-S-

Another way to put it ... the sword cuts both ways. If you think you can kill one of my countrymen, Jewish or gentile, Buddhist, Hindu, or even atheist and get away with it, think again, fool!

Sorry to be gone. I was just greasing the rounds for my .40 cal. Glock with bacon grease (sparingly, but effectively). I'm back and waiting for some Islamofascist to form a good sight picture!

On Killing a Jew, by Sirhindi:

"Whenever a Jew is killed, it is for the benefit of Islam."

Quoted in Chapter 22 of the book The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism: from Sacred Texts to Solemn History, edited by Andrew G. Bostom.

If anyone wishes to truly understand the roots of Islamic antisemitism, this book edited by Andrew Bostom, which came out recently, is essential.

In modern times, the most important, most influential theoretician of political Islam has been Sayyid Qutb. Qutb was the second most important person of the Muslim Brotherhood, second only to the founder al-Banna. The book by Bostom includes, as Chapter 26, Qutb's screed against the Jews: Our Struggle with the Jews. This is similar to Hitler's Mein Kampf in its hostility to all Jews. Here's a sample:

"Anyone who leads this community away from its religion and its Quran can only be a Jewish agaent-- whether he does this wittingly or unwittingly, willingly or unwillingly."
...
"The agents of Zioinism today are like that... The agree with each other on one issue ... which is the destruction of this (Islamic) creed at the first auspicious and unrepeatable opportunity... This Jewish consensus (on destroying Islam) would never be found in a pact or open conference. Rather it is the (secret) agreement of one (Zionist) agent with another on the important gola, as something fundamental (and unquestioned)."
...
"The Quran spoke much about its Jews and elucidated their evil psychology. It is not mere chance that the Quran elaborates on this. For there is no other group whose history reveals the sort of mercilessness, (moral) shirking and ungratefulness for divine guidance as does this one... Everywhere the Jews have been they have committed unprecedented abominations."
"From such creatures who kill, massacre, and defame prophets one can only expect the spilling of human blood and any dirty means which would further their machinations and evilness."
..
"The Jews have confronted Islam with enmity from the moment that the Islamic state was established in Medina. They plotted against the Muslim community from the first day it became a community. The Quran (in fact) contained directives and suggestions concerning this (Jewish) enmity and plot. These directives were themselves sufficient to portray this bitter war which the Jews launched against Islam, the Messenger of Allah and the Muslim community during its long history. This is a war which has not been extinguished, even for one moment, for close on fourteen centuries, and which continues until this moment, its blaze ranging in all corners of the earth."
..
"The war which the Jews launched against Islam was longer, more extensive, and of greater ferocity than the war which the polytheists and idol worshipers perpetrated -- then and now.. Indeed, (Islam's) struggle with the Arab polytheists did not last more than twenty years altogether. And likewise the battle with Faris in the first period... As for the modern period, the intensity of the struggle between the Hindu idol worshipers and Islam is vividly apparent, but it does not equal the viciousness of world Zionism which considers Marxism as a virtual Branch of its its (own activities)."
...
"The believers cannot be steadfast and secure unless they witness the 'solidarity' of the People of Falsehood dissolving and collapsing." -- Sayyid Qutb.

Strangely enough, when Christiane Amanpour did her series on God's Warriors, she did a fluffy puff segment on Sayyid Qutb, featuring him as an opponent of lax morality, all the while the CNN screen showed scantily clad women in bathing suits. She did not mention a word, a single word, about Sayyid Qutb's vicious antisemitic screed that is comparable to Hitler's Mein Kampf. She did a total whitewash, that ignored Qutb's visceral and vicious antisemitism, and the fact that Qutb's writings are well known in the Arab world, and throughout the Muslim world.

re: #53 EE

You've no doubt read this.

Islam is the new Nazism, as far as Jews are concerned.

blahblahblah, tiny minority, yadayadayada, few extremists, doodadooda, great monotheistic faith, humtydumtydum, religion of peace, lalalalala, you RACIST, I can't HEAR you!

TRUTH is shrieking her message, Wisdom is warning of danger, Common Sense is pounding on the door, Self-Preservation is crying out, and Western Civilization is whispering, doom, doom!

And the left is sticking its fingers in its ears.

It is worth noting that out of the initial 19 suspect more than half of them are released and their charges stayed. Only a few of them are still kept in jail and being tried for their crimes.

re: #44 Athos

very well said....

ROP? LMAO!

There are Jews hiding behind every tree. I've seen 'em. They all have Uzis and they know the smell of Muslim blood. Even Christians are really Jews in disguise. And Buddists, know why so many Jews are fascinated with Buddism? It's because they have a secret handshake. They both love to kill Muslims. It's just us, guys. We must protect our muslim brothers. The sisters don't matter. The women will see us strong men and beg to become a member of our harems.

/and the sad thing is that these deluded idiots would believe every word of that tripe. How much more of this crap do we need to hear before we realize the hate that gets funded by our friends the Saudis?

Some ROP, eh?

I bet if I decided to make up some T-shirts saying "I support Israel's Right To Exist. Do You?" that would make me a killing target of this monster.

In other words, his philosophy is to murder all of his enemies. I don't think it really matters whether I were a Jew or not. Even supporting Israel is a position worthy of murder.

I hope he wants to be a martyr. Then we could happily speed him on his way! Just as we will soon speed Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to his fervently desired goal. Hey Khalid, I bet the pool of virgins to choose from is getting very picked over!

Then, there is the classic Onion article "9-11 Hijackers Surprised To Find Themselves In Hell". If you've never seen it, it's well worth the time!
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

"Dr. Shalit 6/07/08 12:39:24 pm Would "RIGHTBACKATCHA" be politically incorrect?"

In a word? No...

Being of Jewish/Scottish heritage I was thinking more along the lines of "Come get some jihad Johnny" but he's in Canada ... I'm more worried about the one's already here.