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Radical Islam in North Carolina

Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:53:25 pm PDT

Samir Khan, the North Carolina Al Qaeda sympathizer who runs a web site that features video clips of US soldiers being killed, apparently has supporters in the local mosque—and among the local moonbats: Muslim Extremist’s Web Site Stirs Mixed Emotions in Charlotte, N.C.

Abdullah Mahmud, an acquaintance of Khan’s who attends the same mosque, the Islamic Center of Greater Charlotte, defended Khan’s viewpoints, saying his anger stems from the United States’ foreign policy and occupation of Iraq.

Mahmoud said the blood-drenched videos Khan shows of U.S. soldiers injured in combat “serve the purpose of making the reality of the Iraqi scene visible to people.”

Those videos are not much different than videos involving American soldiers targeting Iraqi civilians,” he said. “You have to look at both sides here.”

One of Khan’s neighbors, Ron Williams, also defended Khan’s right to free speech.

“Our actions (in Iraq) were interpreted broadly in the Muslim world as an attack on Islam,” Williams said, “I defend his right to speak out.”

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1 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 7:54:50 pm reply quote 11

Fuck you Ron Williams you POS.

2 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 7:55:19 pm reply quote 1

re: #1 Bob in Breckenridge

Fuck you Ron Williams you POS.

/I wonder if he'll defend MY right to speak out.

3 Syrah  6/07/08 7:55:58 pm reply quote 1

I'll bet he isn't voting for McCain.

4 vbspurs  6/07/08 7:56:14 pm reply quote 0

Just about now, Infidel4ever is licking his forefinger and ticking the air.

Yep, it's touch-and-go with these people, even in America...

5 DesertSage  6/07/08 7:56:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #3 Syrah

I'll bet he isn't voting for McCain.

Which means he's voting for Hussein.

6 Mich-again  6/07/08 7:57:11 pm reply quote 18
“Those videos are not much different than videos involving American soldiers targeting Iraqi civilians,” he said. “You have to look at both sides here.”

Bullshit. American soldiers don't target civilians. But the jihadis love to hide amongst them to use them as human shields.

7 EC Marm  6/07/08 7:57:34 pm reply quote 4
Neighbors described Khan — who immigrated to the U.S. from Saudi Arabia when he was 7 years old — as “friendly” and “reserved.” They said he launched his Web site while taking classes at Central Piedmont Community College and selling Cutco knives.


Go the f home if you don't like it here. F'in loser.

8 philosoteric  6/07/08 7:57:54 pm reply quote 3

An attack on Islam? If by attack on Islam you mean bringing democracy to Iraq making sure we're around for another century, then sure.

9 Sharmuta  6/07/08 7:58:28 pm reply quote 6
Mahmoud said the blood-drenched videos Khan shows of U.S. soldiers injured in combat “serve the purpose of making the reality of the Iraqi scene visible to people.”

Yeah- because the msm really hides that sh*t from us.

/

10 varmint  6/07/08 8:00:17 pm reply quote 7

waiting for someone to say "dissent is the highest form of patriotism".

11 Syrah  6/07/08 8:00:32 pm reply quote 6

re: #8 philosoteric

An attack on Islam? If by attack on Islam you mean bringing democracy to Iraq making sure we're around for another century, then sure.

Any and all forms of resistance to the spread of the religion of peace are an attack on Islam.

12 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:00:36 pm reply quote 9

Tonight I finally watched the DVD of "World Trade Center". Cried like a baby.

Still can not understand the liberal mindset that has forgotten what happened to us just a few short years ago.
One line in the movie, "we may not know it yet, but we are at war", really hit me. How, HOW, can the LLLs turn on their own Country?

13 wolfie  6/07/08 8:00:46 pm reply quote 4

You have to look at both sides.

You have to say as many nice things about Nazi Germany as you do about America, you know. You have to understand Hitler's point of view.

We wouldn't want to be "biased" in favor of the US over murderous fanatics.

Thanks for the Enlightened wisdom, Mr. Williams.

14 Killgore Trout  6/07/08 8:01:13 pm reply quote 15

B

ut one local resident has shattered that image, calling for the death of American troops in Iraq and supporting Al Qaeda through his Web site, which he reportedly runs from his parents' home.


Slacker Ackbar!

15 Alouette  6/07/08 8:01:16 pm reply quote 0
One of Khan’s neighbors, Ron Williams, also defended Khan’s right to free speech.

Go to Canada and defend Mark Steyn, you shmuck.

16 Jack Reacher  6/07/08 8:01:28 pm reply quote 3
“I defend his right to speak out.”

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is "speaking out?" My dictionary has another term for that.

17 Palandine  6/07/08 8:01:49 pm reply quote 5

A guy named Ron...
...in Charlotte, NC
...less than 7 years after 9/11
...stands by the "right" of a jihadi to post snuff pr0n on a website in the US.

Bad, bad craziness. How did the rot get this deep?

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  6/07/08 8:02:04 pm reply quote 1

re: #1 Bob in Breckenridge

Best first post ever.

19 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  6/07/08 8:02:58 pm 0
20 Mich-again  6/07/08 8:03:13 pm reply quote 1

I would guess that the dipshit identified in the story as Ron Williams suffers from BDS and subscribes to the notion that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". As in, if he hates Bush he can't be all bad.

21 OldLineTexan  6/07/08 8:03:25 pm reply quote 0

RW hearts SKM.

22 RTLM  6/07/08 8:03:32 pm reply quote 1

Follow up in the Jihad-Jeep ride?

23 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:04:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #5 DesertSage

Which means he's voting for Hussein.

OT: I saw Instapundit link to the Larry Johnson blog (he of the alleged Whitey Tape), where Hillary's supporters have to step over the Obama trolls hordes.

The Hillary camp dynamics are very interesting, because almost to a man, and woman they're voting for McCain*. They rightly see Barack Hussein Obama as the tool of the anti-American cadre with whom he surrounds himself. Their vitriol about this point is really stunning.

* Though a few did say they would vote for Bob Barr. ;)

24 Tigger2005  6/07/08 8:04:30 pm reply quote 4

Pukes. NOW can we question their patriotism?

25 DesertSage  6/07/08 8:04:54 pm reply quote 0

re: #19 song_and_dance_man

Go Lakers

/ then looks at private polls

*yeah it's tough*

They're not playing till tomorrow,
Go Lakers!

26 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:05:29 pm reply quote 0

Totally OT.
I'm reading a book, Change and Continuity in the 1984 Elections, and I have a question for you Lizards, if you don't mind.

Here's a quote from the book, p. 141: "In all of Roosevelt's elections, and in every postwar election through 1976, Jews strongly supported the Democratic presdental canddate. In 1980 a substantal minority of Jews voted for John Anderson, depriving Jimmy Carter of an absolute majority of Jewsh votes, but Carter still receved a plurality of the Jewish vote."

Note: 71 percent of Jews voted for Carter in 1976.

My question: Was the thought of voting for a Republican so repugnant that Jews chose to vote for Anderson because they couldn't support Carter? (I'm trying to understand the Jewish vote.)

27 seekeroftruth  6/07/08 8:05:32 pm reply quote 0

I'm glad to see Fox covering this. This needs exposure.

28 LoFlyer  6/07/08 8:06:12 pm reply quote 0

While the US hosts some radical Islamic web sites and supporters. The US has done well in assimilating moderate Muslims. We may damn the radicals, but the vast majority of American Muslims are coming through for our country. Thanks!

29 Silhouette  6/07/08 8:06:37 pm reply quote 2

Reactions are mixed.

He says "Let's go to war against America, kill Americans, and take over the planet."

And reactions are mixed.

30 hazzyday  6/07/08 8:08:51 pm reply quote 1

Ron Williams has his head up his ass. You can tell by his point of view.

31 DesertSage  6/07/08 8:08:54 pm reply quote 2

re: #23 vbspurs

OT: I saw Instapundit link to the Larry Johnson blog (he of the alleged Whitey Tape), where Hillary's supporters have to step over the Obama trolls hordes.

The Hillary camp dynamics are very interesting, because almost to a man, and woman they're voting for McCain*. They rightly see Barack Hussein Obama as the tool of the anti-American cadre with whom he surrounds himself. Their vitriol about this point is really stunning.

* Though a few did say they would vote for Bob Barr. ;)

Which means only one thing - Barack H. Obama is a divider, not a uniter!

32 Alouette  6/07/08 8:08:54 pm reply quote 0

re: #26 hermeneutics

Totally OT.
I'm reading a book, Change and Continuity in the 1984 Elections, and I have a question for you Lizards, if you don't mind.

Here's a quote from the book, p. 141: "In all of Roosevelt's elections, and in every postwar election through 1976, Jews strongly supported the Democratic presdental canddate. In 1980 a substantal minority of Jews voted for John Anderson, depriving Jimmy Carter of an absolute majority of Jewsh votes, but Carter still receved a plurality of the Jewish vote."

Note: 71 percent of Jews voted for Carter in 1976.

My question: Was the thought of voting for a Republican so repugnant that Jews chose to vote for Anderson because they couldn't support Carter? (I'm trying to understand the Jewish vote.)

WTF? Maybe it was a "butterfly ballot" kind of thing when Jews voted for Pat Buchanan thinking they were really voting for Al Gore?

33 DistantThunder  6/07/08 8:09:15 pm reply quote 0

re: #12 newsjunkie_ky

Tonight I finally watched the DVD of "World Trade Center". Cried like a baby.

Still can not understand the liberal mindset that has forgotten what happened to us just a few short years ago.
One line in the movie, "we may not know it yet, but we are at war", really hit me. How, HOW, can the LLLs turn on their own Country?

Bolton gives us a clear-eyed vision of our enemy. If John Bolton had foretold the depravity of 911, many would have told him to tone it down.

While Bolton and LLL deal with the Megladon sharks of politics, Obama wants to sit with his feet hanging over the edge of the boat, watching his fishing line, hoping the fish will bite.

Bolton is the one saying....we need a bigger boat.

34 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:09:27 pm reply quote 0

re: #12 newsjunkie_ky

Tonight I finally watched the DVD of "World Trade Center". Cried like a baby.

Yes, Stone was surprisingly neutral in WTC. You can sure bet that his upcoming film called "W", scheduled for an October release, will be anything but.

/Josh Brolin as Dubya, Elizabeth Banks as Laura, Richard Dreyfuss as Dick Cheney. WTF?

35 Killgore Trout  6/07/08 8:09:57 pm reply quote 5

LGF spy is a whole new way to experience the LGF experience.

36 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:10:34 pm reply quote 0

re: #12 newsjunkie_ky

Tonight I finally watched the DVD of "World Trade Center". Cried like a baby.

Still can not understand the liberal mindset that has forgotten what happened to us just a few short years ago.
One line in the movie, "we may not know it yet, but we are at war", really hit me. How, HOW, can the LLLs turn on their own Country?

I totally agree. When I saw I couldn't believe Oliver Stone made it. And I also think Nicolas Cage is a closet conservative.

37 LoFlyer  6/07/08 8:10:57 pm reply quote 0

Thanks for the conversation and comments, dinner is calling, catch you on the flip side!

38 jorline  6/07/08 8:11:28 pm reply quote 0

Ron Williams=asshat

39 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:11:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Best first post ever.

Thanks.

40 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:11:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #36 Bob in Breckenridge

I totally agree. When I saw I couldn't believe Oliver Stone made it. And I also think Nicolas Cage is a closet conservative.

Hmm, well, he's a huge Elvis fan. This Elvis.

41 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:12:52 pm reply quote 0

re: #32 Alouette

The loss of Jewish support dearly hurt Carter. Reagan should have been the beneficiary of this vote. He wasn't. I want to know why.

42 reine.de.tout  6/07/08 8:13:05 pm reply quote 2

re: #12 newsjunkie_ky

Tonight I finally watched the DVD of "World Trade Center". Cried like a baby.

Still can not understand the liberal mindset that has forgotten what happened to us just a few short years ago.
One line in the movie, "we may not know it yet, but we are at war", really hit me. How, HOW, can the LLLs turn on their own Country?

I watch that at least once a year. It is important to remember.

43 nyc redneck  6/07/08 8:14:39 pm reply quote 3

these 'mosques' are NOT places of legitimate worship.
they are war strategy rooms. these terrorists are plotting to destroy us .
they have come in like parasites to plan their military action against us w/in our own country.
we need to shut them down.

44 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:14:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #26 hermeneutics

Totally OT.
I'm reading a book, Change and Continuity in the 1984 Elections, and I have a question for you Lizards, if you don't mind.

Here's a quote from the book, p. 141: "In all of Roosevelt's elections, and in every postwar election through 1976, Jews strongly supported the Democratic presdental canddate. In 1980 a substantal minority of Jews voted for John Anderson, depriving Jimmy Carter of an absolute majority of Jewsh votes, but Carter still receved a plurality of the Jewish vote."

Note: 71 percent of Jews voted for Carter in 1976.

My question: Was the thought of voting for a Republican so repugnant that Jews chose to vote for Anderson because they couldn't support Carter? (I'm trying to understand the Jewish vote.)

/No. Anderson promised a gefilte fish in every pot.

45 OldLineTexan  6/07/08 8:15:03 pm reply quote 0

re: #31 DesertSage

Which means only one thing - Barack H. Obama is a divider, not a uniter!

Anything divided by BHO is not a number.

/math humor

46 reine.de.tout  6/07/08 8:15:16 pm reply quote 0

re: #36 Bob in Breckenridge

I totally agree. When I saw I couldn't believe Oliver Stone made it. And I also think Nicolas Cage is a closet conservative.

oops. I said earlier I watch this once a year - it isn't this one I watch, it's the one made by the 2 French journalists who were with a NYC fire house on 9/11.

47 Killian Bundy  6/07/08 8:15:44 pm reply quote 1

Gee, maybe we should bring our troops home.

/if it weren't for the Posse Comitatus Act

48 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:15:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #44 Bob in Breckenridge

I think I'll return to reading, Bob.

49 Syrah  6/07/08 8:16:00 pm reply quote 0

re: #41 hermeneutics

It is an interesting question.

So much time has passed that it might be difficult to get an answer. You may have to go to sources from that time period.

50 reine.de.tout  6/07/08 8:16:01 pm reply quote 0

re: #35 Killgore Trout

LGF spy is a whole new way to experience the LGF experience.

I love the LGF spy. I just love it.

51 wolfie  6/07/08 8:16:33 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 vbspurs

Hmm, well, he's a huge Elvis fan. This

52 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:17:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 LoFlyer

Thanks for the conversation and comments, dinner is calling, catch you on the flip side!

Easy on the baked beans, loflyer.

53 yenta-fada  6/07/08 8:17:33 pm reply quote 0

re: #26 hermeneutics

When you figure out the American Jewish vote, then try to figure out why so many Israelis have believed that peace with Paleostinians was possible. I mean that in a sad way.

I can take a stab at it and point to the fact that Jews have a tendency to identify with the underdog. I don't know enough about the Torah to determine its effects on the Jewish psyche, but I'm sure the idea of justice and fairness is an enduring theme. Another factor is the centuries of marginalization and oppression meted out to Jews has forged an identity that is not quickly shed. Then there's the story of the Jewish class with their schoolteacher out for a field trip at the museum. One kid complained, saying his was thirsty. The teacher told him, "Suffer, it's good for your character."

54 David IV of Georgia  6/07/08 8:17:59 pm reply quote 1

World Trade Center is a great movie. I don't think any strong man can watch it without crying and having murderous thoughts though.

God remember with mercy the innocents who died that day and grant them forgiveness of all wrongs.

And for the guilty: Lousy bastards.

55 Silhouette  6/07/08 8:18:21 pm reply quote 5
“Our actions (in Iraq) were interpreted broadly in the Muslim world as an attack on Islam,”

Nothing says "attack on Islam" like freeing 53 million Muslims from tyranical murderering dictators.

56 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:18:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #34 vbspurs
I hate the thought of what stone will do. and brolin and dreyfus, gimme a break.

57 yenta-fada  6/07/08 8:18:54 pm reply quote 0

PIMF #53 he, not his

58 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:19:16 pm reply quote 0

re: #49 Syrah

Oh, thank you Syrah. I was hoping some of the posters here would recall that election and explain it. Oh well.

re: #53 yenta-fada

Thanks, Yenta -- I'm borrowing your anecdote, if you don't mind.

59 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:19:37 pm reply quote 1

re: #40 vbspurs

Hmm, well, he's a huge Elvis fan. This Elvis.

Was there another Elvis? : )

/Costello doesn't count.

60 yesandno  6/07/08 8:19:54 pm reply quote 0

And how were our actions in Kuwait in the last century and then again in Serbia viewed by the Muslim world.............? Ron needs a clue.


/pick and choose, pick and choose.

61 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:20:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #36 Bob in Breckenridge

I think he is too.
Stone did a great job in his direction or the editor did a great job in editing.
I sometimes think a movie is made or lost in the editing room.

62 Mich-again  6/07/08 8:20:16 pm reply quote 3

re: #43 nyc redneck

we need to shut them down.

At least cut off the tax deduction. Geesh to think the taxpayers are subsidizing sedition is crazy.

I say this. Sedition in a church of any sort should be treated the exact same way as if it were being spouted on a street corner. Church doors do not inoculate against treason.

63 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:21:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #32 Alouette

WTF? Maybe it was a "butterfly ballot" kind of thing when Jews voted for Pat Buchanan thinking they were really voting for Al Gore?

Did you ever read David Frum's "The Right Man: The Surprise Presidency of George W. Bush"? In it, he postulated why Jews dislike GW Bush so much: Frum contends that it was scary combination of being a frat boy-WASP-cowboy, which is radioactive for most Jewish people.

I'm wondering what the triggers were for Ronald Reagan, since he was much more Philosemitic than Carter (duh), or Anderson. Look what Wiki says about the latter:

"Initially, Anderson was amongst the most conservative members of the Republican caucus. In his second term as a Congressman, Anderson introduced a constitutional amendment that would have "recognize[d] the law and authority of Jesus Christ" over the United States"

No wonder he racked up the Jewish vote. Wait.

64 DistantThunder  6/07/08 8:21:30 pm reply quote 4

re: #43 nyc redneck

these 'mosques' are NOT places of legitimate worship.
they are war strategy rooms. these terrorists are plotting to destroy us .
they have come in like parasites to plan their military action against us w/in our own country.
we need to shut them down.

Romney said we should bug the mosques

65 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:21:38 pm reply quote 2

re: #42 reine.de.tout

Daughter #1 is moving to NYC later this month. I plan to be there for 9/11 this year. I will NEVER forget what happened to our Country that day. We must win this WoT.

66 Racer X  6/07/08 8:22:13 pm reply quote 1

Braaaaap!

Well, the Brats put up a good fight but I drowned them in beer.

Tasty!

67 seekeroftruth  6/07/08 8:22:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #55 Silhouette

Nothing says "attack on Islam" like freeing 53 million Muslims from tyranical murderering dictators.

Excellent point. I think the fact that our country freed all those Muslim people from terrible dictators is completely ignored.

68 Killian Bundy  6/07/08 8:22:40 pm reply quote 2

Oliver Stone received a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart with an Oak Leaf Cluster in Vietnam.

/whatever else you think of him you've got to respect that he got his ass in the grass in combat

69 UncleSam  6/07/08 8:22:44 pm reply quote 1

How can any organization which instructs its members to murder non-members, and to murder those who leave the organization, not be legally classified as a criminal organization?
And subject to prosecution for incitement to murder and conspiracy?

70 nyc redneck  6/07/08 8:22:54 pm reply quote 0

re: #62 Mich-again

At least cut off the tax deduction. Geesh to think the taxpayers are subsidizing sedition is crazy.

I say this. Sedition in a church of any sort should be treated the exact same way as if it were being spouted on a street corner. Church doors do not inoculate against treason.

isn't that the truth.

71 Timbre  6/07/08 8:23:14 pm reply quote 0

An excellent report called "The Al-Qaeda Media Nexus," by Daniel Kimmage may shed a lot of light on the Jihadis abroad and in the United States.

72 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:23:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #62 Mich-again

A long tradition of church-state separation treats churches and synagogues as "untouchable." Remember the sanctuary movement in the 1980s ... and now? Churches harbored illegal immigrants in their basements and justified it by saying they were "sanctuaries." The feds avoided these churches. They sat outside and waited for the illegals to exit.

With this history, I would expect sedition in a mosque or church to be ignored.

73 Intrepid  6/07/08 8:24:34 pm reply quote 0

Just saw this - the stunning oratory of Barack Obama. The gaffes just keep on mounting!

McCain will eat his lunch in a debate!

74 lostlakehiker  6/07/08 8:25:57 pm reply quote 1

re: #23 vbspurs

Larry Johnston isn't a reliable source. While there are vocal Hillarists who will sit this one out or vote McCain, mainstream polling suggests it's not a large fraction of the electorate. Obama gained a few points in the polls after he clinched the nomination.

This election might be close, or it might be a blowout for Obama. Anyone who thinks McCain can win big and win easy, with the economy in trouble and the war not yet visibly and conclusively won, is dreaming.

Lincoln won big in 1864, but only because by the time of the election, Sherman had taken Atlanta and was marching through Georgia. People could see that Lincoln's strategy had succeeded and that victory was just a matter of time.

If we do get to that point in Iraq before November, we still won't be there with respect to Afghanistan. And if the war goes well, the fighting will die down and the war won't be on the front page. That leaves the economy. Bush's record on the economy for the first 7 years was decent. But this last year has seen several missteps and some external shocks. There won't be any recovery by November.

The Republicans are pedaling into a headwind this time around.

75 nyc redneck  6/07/08 8:26:05 pm reply quote 4

re: #64 DistantThunder

Romney said we should bug the mosques

let's do it.
why shouldn't we.
because these terrorist want an exemption based on freedom of religion, as they plan our demise.
we need to stop being stupid.

76 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:26:12 pm reply quote 1

re: #63 vbspurs

Good stuff, V B Spurs! You've made it even more mysterious.

I wish I had better insight into voting patterns. Sigh.

77 yenta-fada  6/07/08 8:26:33 pm reply quote 4

If I can borrow a quote from Mae West for Ron Williams: "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork."

78 Purple Prose  6/07/08 8:27:45 pm reply quote 0

Surprise! Surprise!

CAIR, MSA and all the rest could not possible ever consider that it just may be the immoderate actions of Islamists and so-called moderate Muslims and their no-holds-barred, in-your-face approach (and being in your face is part of the MSA strategy) that makes MOST people recoil from Islam.

Kaffirs can still think for themselves. And no matter how much the PC pressure and the cowardice exhibited in the face of CAIResque intimidation, people can still through the crap and reach their own conclusions about Islam. Lawsuits, threats or even "subtler" approaches, like handing out free Korans, will not put a balm on the obvious immoderacy of public Muslims. Is there a silent moderate Muslim majority in the U.S or Europe? Almost 7 years after 9/11, one must conclude: "No, not that I can see."

79 yesandno  6/07/08 8:28:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 Intrepid

Just saw this - the stunning oratory of Barack Obama. The gaffes just keep on mounting!

80 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:28:34 pm reply quote 0

re: #48 hermeneutics

I think I'll return to reading, Bob.

Hermeneutics, you asked earlier abt the Amazon Kindle. Without threadjacking on LGF, I'll point you to all my responses in this blog's thread.

The blog owner owned hers since December. I've owned mine since late May*. She doesn't like hers, though she did originally. Mine has changed my reading habits forever. I'm very big on it, but then, I'm a voracious reader. I highly recommend buying the Kindle.

*Since then, my father purchased another for himself.

81 abolitionist  6/07/08 8:28:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #12 newsjunkie_ky

[snip]
One line in the movie, "we may not know it yet, but we are at war", really hit me. How, HOW, can the LLLs turn on their own Country?

I believe the same character (aviation exec, portraying his real-life self) said the same thing, or very close to it, in United 93.

82 Ma Sands  6/07/08 8:28:43 pm reply quote 0

Hmmm...realwest lives around that area.....he's got a couple of Muslim cab driver friends....wonder what they'd have to say.....

83 wolfie  6/07/08 8:28:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 Intrepid

Just saw this - the stunning oratory of Barack Obama. The gaffes just keep on mounting!

84 lostlakehiker  6/07/08 8:29:03 pm reply quote 0

re: #44 Bob in Breckenridge

Ronald Reagan was tough medicine for liberals not happy with Carter. It took this lizard-to-be four years to realize that Reagan wasn't a right wing nut, he was just right. Anderson provided voters who sensed the wrongness of Carter a way out, a way to vote against Carter without having to swallow too big a dose of reappraisal at one gulp.

85 reine.de.tout  6/07/08 8:30:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 Intrepid

Just saw this - the stunning oratory of Barack Obama. The gaffes just keep on mounting!

McCain will eat his lunch in a debate!

And here's Obama's Friends:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

86 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:31:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 abolitionist
I still don't get it how LLLs have forgotten 9/11. If you bring it up, they want to change the subject. Is this what hussein means when he keeps repeating 'change'?

87 David IV of Georgia  6/07/08 8:32:27 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 abolitionist

I believe the same character (aviation exec, portraying his real-life self) said the same thing, or very close to it, in United 93.

Its late, but I may just watch United 93 again...

88 Tigger2005  6/07/08 8:33:02 pm reply quote 3

re: #12 newsjunkie_ky

Tonight I finally watched the DVD of "World Trade Center". Cried like a baby.

Still can not understand the liberal mindset that has forgotten what happened to us just a few short years ago.
One line in the movie, "we may not know it yet, but we are at war", really hit me. How, HOW, can the LLLs turn on their own Country?

Easy. They don't really believe in ANYTHING America stands for. Nothing at all. In fact, they don't believe in Western, Greco-Roman, Judeo-Christian, Renaissance, Enlightenment civilization, period. It is all an immense, evil white man's crime against people of color and against feelings and emotions and irrationality and Mother Earth and the Goddess and nature spirits.

Reason, logic, rationality, a commitment to truth, justice, individual rights, freedom of speech, common sense, tolerance, moderation, civics, democracy, capitalism, meritocracy, scientific inquiry, etc., these are all the evil constructs of the "Man" and must be rejected.

89 Carolyn  6/07/08 8:33:15 pm reply quote 0

The reactions from the other moslems are just BS.
The Imam said something about how Mo didn't kill kids or women....
a real peach , he was.
/

90 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:33:27 pm reply quote 1

re: #80 vbspurs

Is your father's name Jeff?

91 philosoteric  6/07/08 8:34:01 pm reply quote 1

re: #11 Syrah

Hear, hear. Hell, Spencer's 'Jihad Watch' is an attack on Islam.

But I'm sure we all know that already. :)

92 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:34:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #90 hermeneutics

Is your father's name Jeff?

Charles, actually. ;)

93 RTLM  6/07/08 8:34:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #68 Killian Bundy

Oliver Stone received a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart with an Oak Leaf Cluster in Vietnam.

/whatever else you think of him you've got to respect that he got his ass in the grass in combat

Respect given to all Vets.

John Kerry got himself some medals too. Marketed the fact.

Oliver Stone made 'Midnight Express'. One of the best movies ever.
(then he made 'Alexander')

It's where Oliver Stone's brain is today that makes me disrespect him now.

94 MandyManners  6/07/08 8:35:46 pm reply quote 1

Low-class, punk-ass motherfucker.

95 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:35:58 pm reply quote 0

re: #92 vbspurs

I conversed with a man a few weeks ago who lavished praise on his Kindle and saying he had bought them for his two adult children. Just thought you may be one of them, that's all. It IS a small world, you know.

96 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:36:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #88 Tigger2005
You nailed it. That is exactly what my philosophy prof said over and over in class. She is a true lefty goddess worshipping twit.
We became friends and used to hang out but got into a major email war after 9/11. I can't be friends with loons anymore.

97 reine.de.tout  6/07/08 8:37:04 pm reply quote 2

This is the 9/11 movie that everyone should watch once a year, in my opinion. There is no way to forget the horror of that day - it's all here.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

98 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:37:51 pm reply quote 0

re: #95 hermeneutics

It IS a small world, you know.

Oh! I thought you meant is my dad Jeff Bezos. ;)

99 pingjockey  6/07/08 8:38:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #94 MandyManners
Who are you leveling that invective at? The twit defending this terrorist?

100 Ma Sands  6/07/08 8:38:21 pm reply quote 0

re: #91 philosoteric

Does your nic have to do with any of this? :)

101 hermeneutics  6/07/08 8:38:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #98 vbspurs

Laughter. I'm so sorry. I'm tired, lost my glasses and am making all sorts of grammatical and logical errors.

For the rest of the night, I'll lurk, read and stay silent.

102 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:39:31 pm reply quote 0

re: #46 reine.de.tout

oops. I said earlier I watch this once a year - it isn't this one I watch, it's the one made by the 2 French journalists who were with a NYC fire house on 9/11.

Oh, I saw that also. it was excellent.

103 newsjunkie_ky  6/07/08 8:39:53 pm reply quote 1

re: #97 reine.de.tout
I've watched that many times. Excellent.
I guess we'll never see the DVD of "The Path to 9/11".

104 Ma Sands  6/07/08 8:40:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #101 hermeneutics

Yeah, I've found the computer screen doesn't read so well if one presses their nose against it in an effort to see..... :)

105 MikeyHunt  6/07/08 8:40:45 pm reply quote 0

from the article... "“Those videos are not much different than videos involving American soldiers targeting Iraqi civilians,” he said. “You have to look at both sides here.”

please , sir, point me to a video .. any video... that shows "American soldiers targeting Iraqi civilians" yes, I'll wait.

On the other hand ..how are we able to detect your terrorist heros from civilians, when the bloody cowards wear civilian clothes , mingle amonst civilians , and use civilians as shields.

If I was your DAD I would give you 'the belt'.... ground you ....and take away your internet privileges.

You make me sick that you are a human being on this earth.

106 razorbacker  6/07/08 8:41:09 pm reply quote 3

I defend his right to speak out too.

Easier to find them when they're gobbling.

It's when the turkeys go silent that you have trouble hunting them.

107 vbspurs  6/07/08 8:41:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #97 reine.de.tout

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Not only +1, but thanks for the reminder. That and War and Decision by Douglas Feith should be required 9/11 reading.

/and not Loose Change + Zeitgeist...

108 really grumpy big dog Johnson  6/07/08 8:42:27 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 Intrepid

Just saw this - the stunning oratory of Barack Obama. The gaffes just keep on mounting!

109 pat  6/07/08 8:42:48 pm reply quote 1

Sounds to me like this Mosque is the partner 'church' to Trinity.

110 Bob in Breckenridge  6/07/08 8:42:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #61 newsjunkie_ky

I think he is too.
Stone did a great job in his direction or the editor did a great job in editing.
I sometimes think a movie is made or lost in the editing room.

agreed.

111 MandyManners  6/07/08 8:43:06 pm reply quote 0

re: #99 pingjockey

Who are you leveling that invective at? The twit defending this terrorist?

Why would you ask that question?

112 Macker  6/07/08 8:43:10 pm reply quote 0
One of Khan’s neighbors, Ron Williams, also defended Khan’s right to free speech.

“Our actions (in Iraq) were interpreted broadly in the Muslim world as an attack on Islam,” Williams said, “I defend his right to speak out.”

I'll bet he works only 27 minutes a day too.

113 really grumpy big dog Johnson  6/07/08 8:45:00 pm reply quote 3

re: #87 David IV of Georgia

Its late, but I may just watch United 93 again...

United 93 was just plain brilliant. I wasn't even sure where I was when I walked out of the theater. The same director followed up that tour de force with his scintillating direction of The Bourne Ultimatum, quite possibly the best directed action-suspense thriller ever filmed.

114 solomonpanting  6/07/08 8:45:43 pm reply quote 0
Neighbors described Khan — who immigrated to the U.S. from Saudi Arabia when he was 7 years old — as “friendly” and “reserved.” They said he launched his Web site while taking classes at Central Piedmont Community College and selling Cutco knives.

Knives? Hmmmm....

115 Charles  6/07/08 8:48:19 pm reply quote 0

And now I'm going to post another announcement so that I don't get a million questions, even though I probably will anyway.

Song and dance man apparently got tired of having an LGF account tonight.

116 Charles  6/07/08 8:49:18 pm reply quote 0