Just plain scary

is finish my waffles step 5?

PAWNED!

Who hasn't been held accountable for war crimes?

I worship the ground you walk on, oh Great Lizard King!

the password isnt
hopeandchange

i can attest to that.

And throw the democratically elected government of Iraq UNDER THE BUS!

re: #4 DesertSage

Who hasn't been held accountable for war crimes?

Communists.

God help our troops if this man gets elected!

re: #7 experiencedtraveller

we're gonna need another bus!

re: #4 DesertSage

Everybody with an "R" political affiliation.

Thanks Charles.

OTOH, this can be attributed to low-level rodent thralls. I don't think the press will run with it.

How can the MSM just ignore this BS? This DOES MEAN SOMETHING doesn't it? This DOES tell us everything we all need to know about Obama does it not?

This is not the flyer I knew. Can I just eat my waffle?
/Obama

re: #11 guzziguy

Everybody with an "R" political affiliation.

So, the re-education camps open the day after he takes office?

tminus 1 hour till the blog is mysteriously offline

I'm drawn to #3. The Dems keep saying that the surge didn't work, that the decrease in violence is due to Irans good will. Now suddenly a diplomatic surge is going to be the best of all worlds?

Frog march fantasies live on.

Absolutely delicious scandal! Good job!

One of the surest routes to a bloody civil war (I mean in the US) is to prosecute policy as crimes.

And that seems to be what the left fringe wants.

Bad scary stuff.

RE: #2:

Now that'll take some audacity--telling the Iraqis to disband their government and reach reconciliation. And if they don't, then what?
What an unmitigated disaster an Obama Presidency would be!

Deny, deny, deny.

Unless there are videos of Obama doing unspeakables, I doubt this will sway the left. Heck, most will applaud.

says it's for an "Oct. 13th rally". Anyone know where that rally took place? If it was public or private?

saved it

re: #23 Racer X

Deny, deny, deny.

Unless there are videos of Obama doing unspeakables, I doubt this will sway the left. Heck, most will applaud.

I don't think the left is the target here

It's strange to me how 'confront humanitarian crisis' comes last. After such bureaucratic time-eaters as erecting a 'regional security compact.'

I mean honestly. It's written an an intermediary step, as though it's the Delaware-Maryland-Virginia region.

Apparently it shouldn't take more than a long weekend to get Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and Israel -- ! -- to all sign the Good Fences/Good Neighbors Pinky Swear Paper.

Was this a secret flyer prior to it's exposure here?

re: #23 Racer X

Deny, deny, deny.

Unless there are videos of Obama doing unspeakables, I doubt this will sway the left. Heck, most will applaud.

Voting for a Republican?
Telling a panhandler to get a job?

re: #24 Yankee Division Son

says it's for an "Oct. 13th rally". Anyone know where that rally took place? If it was public or private?

Maybe October 2008?

Tomorrow's headlines?

Obama is John Murtha squared and cubed in the hate the military moonbatism

Sounds like a witch hunt to me and after the Haditha fiasco, Americans are in no mood to see our brave soldiers tossed under the bus.

re: #29 guzziguy

Voting for a Republican?
Telling a panhandler to get a job?

Hye, I work! On motorcycles no less.

Careful Charles, you're going to have the same problems as the people who read the wide-open unprotected democrat capitol e-mails. Didn't matter that there was all sorts of vile stuff in those wide-open unprotected e-mails; it was the non-democrats who read the [did I say wide-open unprotected?] e-mails that got into trouble.

re: #31 Syrah

Tomorrow's headlines?

obama house stocked up on waffles- busy eating says spokesman.

Is Obama calling General Petraeus a war criminal?

BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!

/you know, so they're easier to prosecute

re: #34 Panhandler

Hye, I work! On motorcycles no less.

My deepest, most sincere apology.....and sympathy.

re: #30 SpartanWoman

Maybe October 2008?

I considered that for a moment too, but it's really pretty unrealistic to think they'd draw up flyers so far in advance.

I think.

Right?

Let me read aloud for us all #3

Use presidential leadership to surge our diplomacy with all of the nations of the region on behalf of a new regional security compact.

Obama's surge.
Appease & negotiate with DinJak et al

re: #21 Van Helsing

One of the surest routes to a bloody civil war (I mean in the US) is to prosecute policy as crimes.

And that seems to be what the left fringe wants.

Bad scary stuff.

Power is Life.

Without power over the productive population of a country the parasites cannot assure their own survival and well being. Nothing else matters. The parasite sees the rest of us as tools that they must use to further their own existence. Those who refuse to obey the self-appointed masters are trash to be disposed of. If that takes a civil war, so be it.

When Senators go kos- American troops? Screw them!

Does Obama's plan for Iraq involve

a. Stabilizing the country politically?
b. Fighting terrorism?
c. Preventing Iran from setting up Iraq as another client-state, the way it has with Lebanon and Syria?

re: #32 Bill Amos

Obama is John Murtha squared and cubed in the hate the military moonbatism

Oh. Thanks for reminding me. F*** you Murtha, you useless Abscam POS.
Come out and accuse our Marines of premeditated murder and then sit silent on your fat ass after they are acquitted.

Did you ever read the US Constitution you miserable pile of scat? INNOCENT until proven guilty? Can I count on apologies now?

Greg in Seattle, is was secret in respect to having been published and publicized. Did you hear of this before? I hadn't.

Is he REALLY this shallow?

Holy cow, this is actually huge news.

Obama is basically announcing he's going to hold Nuremberg-style trials to convict Bsuh&Co of war crimes -- exactly as the most extreme moonbats have been fantasizing for years.

This is what happens after a revolution, not after a presidential election.

Does he want to turn us into a third-world country where every new leader takes revenge on the previous leader and his underlings?

Imagine, if you will, what the media would say if secret Bush plans to hold trials and convict his political enemies came to light. It would be the scandal of the century.

But when Obama does it...I predict:

Silence.

re: #39 guzziguy

My deepest, most sincere apology.....and sympathy.

With gas at $4 a gallon, I don't need sympathy, I need 6 hands and a 43 hour day.

re: #40 Cognito

I considered that for a moment too, but it's really pretty unrealistic to think they'd draw up flyers so far in advance.

I think.

Right?

If this was distributed at a 2007 rally we'd have heard about it?

Wow. This is just. Wow.

Obama would pull out all of the troops within one year - by December '09! - and leave the Iraqi people at the mercy of insurgents. And he would sell out the Iraqi government to the UN!

Not to mention the whole war crimes thing. That is beyond disgusting.

This man would set our ME policy back to Carter era. All defeat, all the time.

Oh no!

Another Panty Raid on Abu Ghraib!

(Or do they mean they guys who cut off people's heads on videotape while shouting "Allahu Ackbar!")

re: #37 experiencedtraveller

Is Obama calling General Petraeus a war criminal?

Hillary already called him a liar.

Obama Canvass for Change on October 13th
[Link: barack.ws...]

It's from last year.

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

WEAR
DATE,
R

The odds of Hillery nomination are starting to rise.

re: #46 rabidfox

Greg in Seattle, is was secret in respect to having been published and publicized. Did you hear of this before? I hadn't.

I haven't either, but perhaps it was distributed at a rally and none of the attending Libs thought anything of it. I don't know.

[Link: barack.ws...]

"Some of your neighbors may know that Barack opposed the war in Iraq before it began. But they may not know that he spoke out publicly and passionately, that he demonstrated the judgment to stand up to conventional thinking in Washington, and that he has proposed a clear plan to end the war and bring our troops home."

...And then put them on trial.

re: #50 SpartanWoman

If this was distributed at a 2007 rally we'd have heard about it?

Yes. Right here too.

re: #49 Panhandler

Glad you're doing well. A good M/C wrench is great to find. Like most guzzi riders I'm cheap. I do my own. Put in a rear transmission seal last week.

Love how they hated the "surge" in context of the troops but loved the word so much they appropriated it for their own purposes....and changed its part of speech....nothing is sacred.

WHAT THE HELL IS "LEADERSHIP TO SURGE OUR DIPLOMACY"?

I want to see what the MSM leads with tomorrow. I bet it ain't this.

You must be proud as a peacock, Charles, and deservedly so.

Your feathers are showing, and they are vibrant hues of red, white, and blue.

Kudos to you and all you do.

re: #40 Cognito

I considered that for a moment too, but it's really pretty unrealistic to think they'd draw up flyers so far in advance.

I think.

Right?

I'm thinking because of it's content, it's defiantly aimed at a democratic audience, not for the general election. I'm thinking Oct 13 2007

Charles, God bless you for taking the time to expose what is going on within the Obama campaign. Sadly - and I mean this in no way as a slight directed at you - the traditional media in this country has so utterly failed us, it is up to good, hard working folks like you to shed light upon the truth.

I have gotten to the point that I am utterly disgusted with anyone who supports this man's candidacy. I had the painful displeasure of attending the Ohio State graduation ceremonies today, only to hear Brian Williams apologize for the state of our nation, and implore the graduates to "change" it. Gee, I wonder where his ideological center lies? I was with a couple of friends who are very conservative and anti-Obama, but they couldn't help but praise Williams' address. I can't even imagine what the reaction was among the ideological automatons in the graduating class.

BTW, and kind of a random question: I know that there are a lot of Jewish folks among our Lizard ranks, and I have been curious about this one point. Is it considered offensive to God to spell his name as a Jew, or to see it spelled, period? I ask this because, if you/they find it offensive to see His name spelled at all, I would have no problem with using a "censored" version of His name in deference. Obviously, I am a gentile Presbyterian who has very little interaction with Jews on a day-to-day basis, but I do love you all like brothers.

re: #12 Kaitian868

Thanks Charles.

You may have just saved the free world, Kaitian868.

re: #45 Van Helsing

Did you ever read the US Constitution you miserable pile of scat? INNOCENT until proven guilty? Can I count on apologies now?

Unfortunately in military law(at least here in Canada) it's the other way around. You have to prove your innocence. I don't know the way it works in the U.S.A military, but I think they are similar. I do know that if you are tried in a military court up here and you bring in a civilian attorney they have to be assigned a military lawyer to teach them the ropes of what can and can't be done.

He may have opted against distributing this at the rally. It would have gotten out

re: #61 yesandno

Love how they hated the "surge" in context of the troops but loved the word so much they appropriated it for their own purposes....and changed its part of speech....nothing is sacred.

WHAT THE HELL IS "LEADERSHIP TO SURGE OUR DIPLOMACY"?

Not sure, but seeing as this is Obama, it probably involves a friggin' boatload of waffles. Hope you're hungry, Dinnerjacket!

I don't think this one's gonna shake the foundations, folks. Deniability is sound.

re: #48 zombie

Holy cow, this is actually huge news.

Obama is basically announcing he's going to hold Nuremberg-style trials to convict Bsuh&Co of war crimes -- exactly as the most extreme moonbats have been fantasizing for years.

That's a fairly aggressive read.
He says he's going to go after "any perpetrators of war crimes".
This is coded talk to appeal to his Leftist base.
In THEIR minds, he could be talking about Bush and Cheney. . .
Could be US soldiers. . .could be Al Queda in Iraq (though I suppose Obama would have to admit that there is such an entity first, before he can assume them of committing war crimes).
But the point is, he doesn't say any of these things explicitly, and whichever interpretation you choose, its easily deniable.

I love you Charles!

Thought I saw this before:

Obama strikes nerve with call for quick pullout of U.S. troops from Iraq

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Thursday, September 13, 2007

Sen. Barack Obama tells an audience at a campaign event i...
Disclaimer

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's plan to withdraw American combat forces from Iraq created immediate waves Wednesday in his party's presidential race and illustrated how the unpopular war has become the central battleground for the 2008 campaign.

Political observers said the move showed that Democratic candidates increasingly are competing to lead the anti-war parade and appeal to a key constituency - motivated anti-war Democratic voters.

Obama's tough Iraq policy speech suggests that "he's trying to take a little bit of the 'Clean Gene' McCarthy position," Michael Semler, professor of political science at Cal State Sacramento, said, referring to the late Sen. Eugene McCarthy, whose opposition to the war in Vietnam in the 1968 presidential race became a rallying point for many voters on the far left.

Semler said Obama is "trying to position himself as the first Democrat to make a detailed policy statement" responding to Gen. David Petraeus' recommendations that American troop levels in Iraq remain the same as they were before President Bush began his "surge" in January.

"He's forcing other Democrats to follow him, and respond to him," Semler added.

The competition highlights the effort by the top Democratic presidential candidates "to be the lead in the anti-war parade in the primary because there are so many people willing to join up," said Mark Baldassare of the Public Policy Institute of California.

Among Democrats, Baldassare said, "it's their No. 1 presidential issue, and one in which there is near unanimity on outcome: that we must drastically change course ... so if you manage to convince the voters you have the answer, you will have a tremendous following."

With five months until the first 2008 presidential primaries and caucuses, Obama's plan on Iraq delivered a veiled shot at his Democratic rivals - particularly Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the front-runner, and Sen. John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator and the party's 2004 candidate for vice president.

Obama, who was an Illinois state senator when Congress authorized Bush to invade Iraq, blamed "conventional thinking" in Congress for the votes to authorize the war and support the Republican president's policy. He called for immediately beginning to pull out troops engaged in combat operations - finishing by the end of next year - as well as supporting a new constitutional convention in Iraq, diplomacy with "all of the nations in the region," and "immediate steps" to "confront the humanitarian disaster" and "hold accountable any perpetrators of war crimes" in Iraq.

re: #48 zombie

No zombie, this is what will PRECEDE a revolution in our Republic.

It will not be pretty. The Legions will be wrathful.

The re-education camps are coming!
Now do you believe me?

I do believe that if this fool and his fellow cultists win,they will go after Pres. Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld etc...with all means at their disposal...do I hear Civil War II?

Let me read aloud for us all #2

Call for a constitutional convention in Iraq, convened with the United Nations, which would not adjourn until Iraq's leaders reach a new accord on reconciliation.

This dope Obama very well may believe in this U.N. tomfoolery.

Hmmm. It appears that Obama never got rid of that drug habit.

I was going to say he still had that monkey on his back, but that's a racist thing to say, I guess. (shrug)

re: #73 Irene NYC

It's amazing that no one really noticed this before.

OK, you would think Hillary's "people" would have flushed this stuff out by now right?

Seriously, the way culpability works at war crimes trials is they go up the chain of command as far as they can go.

Who conceivably could Obama string up?

The options are very limited: it would have to be Rumsfeld, Petraeus, Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, or someone of that stature.

Anyone of a lower rank could legitimately say it wasn't him making the decision.

Obama is preparing for a Great Purge of Stalinesque dimensions.

This is truly astounding.