Thing is, they will consider it carefully.

Its sad, but the FIRST amendment, is globally unpopular.

Most people really do NOT believe in free speech.

Pakistan: "Jump!"
Europe: "How high?"

Just wow!

Ah yes, the old "if you call us violent, we'll kill you".

The Obama campaign responded that they can help the EU by not only helping them stop anti-Islam speech, but by making it so that it has in fact never even happened.

(they better act fast, before all of Euope goes down the memory hole, though)

re: #1 coquimbojoe

Thing is, they will consider it carefully.

Thing is that they'll cave almost immediately!

Sadly- it's likely the Eu will cower to such threats.

more attacks on the EU diplomatic missions abroad could not be ruled out.

Religion of Peace

Islam - "Don't badmouth us or we'll Keel you!"

Admiral Akbar!

That is not the Musharaf that I know.

Don't you dare criticize our religion of peace, or we will keeeeeel you.

In a sane world, the delegation would be kicked out on their asses. And laughed off the continent.

And the Democrats want to "restore" America's image? What is this world coming to?

"They said that the delegation would also tell the EU that if such acts against Islam are not controlled, more attacks on the EU diplomatic missions abroad could not be ruled out."

If I remember properly the last Islamic "attack" on a European diplomatic mission left about a dozen Islamists dead and no Europeans injured. If that's how they plan to keep attacking I say "knock yourself out Achmed"!

/Yeah, I used my face to break his fist...

re: #13 zombie

In a sane world, the delegation would be kicked out on their asses. And laughed off the continent.

It's a refuse to take my haldol world, zombie. Sorry

The proper EU response:

"if such acts by Islam are not controlled, attacks by the EU abroad could not be ruled out."

Not holding by breath though.

Pakistan should demand Europe contribute medical burn units to treat Pakistani women whose husbands throw acid on their faces. HONOR Pakistani women, don't honor murder them.

Pakistan's abuse of women is the front page story on today's Washington Times.

I'll try to link.

What the EU should do is have the pakistani delegation turned around right at the airport. Unfortunately, this requires balls, in which the EU is sorely lacking.

While i was away, did LGF discuss the conviction of the French person who wrote the book about how Muslims are destroying France? Because, you know, opinions should be crimes.

I bet they will go after the Arab newspapers publishing all of their vile anti-west , anti-Israel crap next right? Right?

It's like I always say. Violence is always an answer. It may not be THE answer, but it is always AN answer.

Calling on other countries (heck, an entire region) to curb its freedom of speech so as not to offend?

In what crazy world is this not considered an affront of the highest order short of actual war?

Imagine what Iran is going to say when IT has nukes.

More Human Rights lessons from animals.

re: #14 Nevergiveup

And the Democrats want to "restore" America's image? What is this world coming to?

Yes, they want our allies to trust us more and our enemies to respect us more by abandoning the our one ally in the world that most needs us to genocidal butchers.

I somehow doubt that will work, out side of Davos, Brussels, and Berkley, anyway.

re: #24 looking closely

Imagine what Iran is going to say when IT has nukes.

Boom!

Europe to Pakistan: Come and make us... Oh, that's right. You're already here. Damn. OK, please don't hurt us.

I have a suggestion:

Let's send a delegation to Pakistan and request that they grant full rights to women, Jews and homosexuals, that they dismantle their nuclear arsenal, that they stop any jihadist activity by their citizens.

And if not, well, we're not responsible for the consequences.

If only the yurps would learn to STFU, they would get along with the Pakistanis

What thuggery!

re: #23 WitchDoctor

Calling on other countries (heck, an entire region) to curb its freedom of speech so as not to offend?

In what crazy world is this not considered an affront of the highest order short of actual war?

Because "freedom of speech" is a radical concept to many.

In America, its the first part of our Bill of Rights, but lots of people REALLY don't believe in it.

re: #18 alegrias

Please, do.

I wonder how the rest of the world would respond if the EU or the US made the demand of Pakistan - Do away with the tacit support of radical islam, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda or else?

The outrage would be unbelievable and loud. But when Pakistan delivers an ultimatum.......crickets.

Sharmuta is right......the EU, and the left, will knuckle under to the threat. But then, they were never all that thrilled about free speech anyhow. The left doesn't tolerate speech that doesn't support their positions.

re: #20 bosforus

Do you mean Bridgette Bardot- the fan of the nazi le pen?

re: #11 MandyManners

That is not the Musharaf that I know.

* * *

You're right, Musharraf's not really in charge anymore, he's a lame duck.

Pakistan doesn't have Musharraf to kick around anymore.

This is the new, CHANGED Pakistan speaking.

Pakistani delegation: "Oh, and round up your Jews, too, while you're at it. We find them offensive, too."

re: #32 looking closely

Because "freedom of speech" is a radical concept to many.

In America, its the first part of our Bill of Rights, but lots of people REALLY don't believe in it.

Or they take it for granted and won't notice how truly great of a gift it is until it's gone.

Hey, hey, hey! They are only doing this because the west keeps telling them what to do, and stuff. It's our own fault - we should just butt out of their business.

re: #36 alegrias

* * *

You're right, Musharraf's not really in charge anymore, he's a lame duck.

Pakistan doesn't have Musharraf to kick around anymore.

This is the new, CHANGED Pakistan speaking.

Yeah the one the Democrats all wanted. Another example of the Democrats having no idea of the consequences of their actions or simply not caring.

Once Pakistan is done colonizing England they will have a stronger hand in these matters.

criticizing islam is the first thing every european should do when they get up in the morning.

Also on the Pakistani agenda:
Change the idea of "getting stoned" in Amsterdam from smoking pot to actually being stoned by rock throwing lunatics.

re: #29 zombie

What's the word? Naif?

The religion of peace is real piece of something.

re: #35 Sharmuta

Do you mean Bridgette Bardot- the fan of the nazi le pen?

The most I know about it is from the caption I read on a news channel. Words to the effect of: someone convicted in France for book about how Muslims are destroying the country.

re: #26 nikis-knight

PIMF, sorry about the three typos there...

re: #38 Fat Jolly Penguin

Or they take it for granted and won't notice how truly great of a gift it is until it's gone.

Its amazing how many Americans are actually against freedom of speech.

re: #48 looking closely

Its amazing how many Americans are actually against freedom of speech.

Yep free speech for me but not for thee.

re: #37 Occasional Reader

Pakistani delegation: "Oh, and round up your Jews, too, while you're at it. We find them offensive, too."

Can you introduce to this Hitler fellow? We rather like the cut of his jib.

The Pakistanis better watch out.

Out of the entire world, they're the only ones on the Obamessiah's short list.

Pakistan is the most dangerous nation, I repeat the nation, on this planet.

Repost:
Geert Wilders visits Copenhagen, talking about Fitna, concluded:

And in that spirit, let me end my speech by giving you my favorite quote from George Orwell, who said If Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

From previous thread.
re: #179 Charles

I think I'll open registration, now that the lefties are losing their minds. Could be fun.

re: #192 Charles

I'm going to announce it too. Let's see what they've got.

Flood gates about to open.

A good place to reprise a recent email I received.

This is cut-and-paste, verbatim, with no changes:

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From: rajaman1112000@...
Subject: fuck your virgin mary, bastards

dont you white bastards have anything better to do.
if you want to draw images why not draw them of jesus breaking virgin marys virginity!
or jesus being raped on the cross! ummm that would be nice!
all you christian bastards know you are living a lie, your bible keeps on changing, our quran is the same since when it was revealed!
so down with your virgin marys innocent crack
down with your jesus being raped on the cross
down with all the danish bastards
down with the entire christian motherfucking aimless religion!

salma - pakistan
proud to be a muhammady!

-----------------------

re: #51 OldLineTexan

The Pakistanis better watch out.

Out of the entire world, they're the only ones on the Obamessiah's short list.

Well regardless of what Obama says your assuming he could even find Pakistan on a map?

re: #46 bosforus

Okay- but just in case you didn't notice- nazis and their sympathizers don't get a lot of support around here.

(Pakistan) Toy bomb explosion kills four children in Pakistan

[Link: www.kuna.net.kw...]

And they are trying to advise the west?

The situation in Pakistan has been a muddled mess for a good long time before the recent elections that resulted in Musharraf losing power to the other political parties.

Musharraf has vacillated between appeasement and crackdown depending on the threat level to him personally.

The new government is engaging in the exact same strategy as Musharraf - appeasing the Taliban and their co-religionists in the frontier provinces, hoping that it will be sufficient to buy them off. Throw in a few ominous statements like this, and the new government thinks that it will be able to stick around for a while.

This has as much to do with Pakistani domestic politics as it does in yet another assault on free speech in the rest of the world. Still, it is an ominous development considering that the Pakistanis are likely to set afire foreign embassies and/or Pakistan remains a safe haven for al Qaeda and other terrorists in those frontier provinces, enabling them to stick around for longer than their shelf-life would demand.

I have to laugh...I think it does have some amusing aspects. The Europeans will probably cave. In that anthropology work by Salzman ("Culture and Conflict in the Middle East"), Salzman noted that tribal cultures typically engage in "preemptive strikes." They're testing the waters. Seeing how fierce the competition is...(Europeans will no doubt appear weak, hence, encouraging further attacks.)

re: #57 Sharmuta

Okay- but just in case you didn't notice- nazis and their sympathizers don't get a lot of support around here.

:) That's what I get for reading captions I suppose.

They said that the delegation would also tell the EU that if such acts against Islam are not controlled, more attacks on the EU diplomatic missions abroad could not be ruled out.

Causus Belli in any sane person's mind

re: #55 zombie

Great how the internet is bringing us all closer together.

re: #56 Nevergiveup

Well regardless of what Obama says your assuming he could even find Pakistan on a map?

I will not EVER misunderestimate the Obamessiah, or his owners.

Never, never, never.

The EU should politely inform them that the next attack on the embassy of a member country will be considered an act of war.

re: #56 Nevergiveup

Well regardless of what Obama says your assuming he could even find Pakistan on a map?

Are you kidding? He plans to make Pakistan the 58th state!

re: #55 zombie

A good place to reprise a recent email I received.

This is cut-and-paste, verbatim, with no changes:

-----------------------

From: rajaman1112000@...
Subject: fuck your virgin mary, bastards

dont you white bastards have anything better to do.
if you want to draw images why not draw them of jesus breaking virgin marys virginity!
or jesus being raped on the cross! ummm that would be nice!
all you christian bastards know you are living a lie, your bible keeps on changing, our quran is the same since when it was revealed!
so down with your virgin marys innocent crack
down with your jesus being raped on the cross
down with all the danish bastards
down with the entire christian motherfucking aimless religion!

salma - pakistan
proud to be a muhammady!

-----------------------

Obviously not up to date on the NY art scene.

re: #33 MandyManners

Please, do.

* * *
Here you go: PAKISTAN's Acid Burnings, Honor killings

The plight of tens of thousands of abused Pakistani women doesn't garner the headlines of Darfur's genocide in Sudan, the sympathy afforded Burma's forgotten victims or the outrage unleashed in New Orleans after Katrina. These battered women also don't attract the outpouring of financial support that so many other recent global tragedies have drawn.

"... burgeoning humanitarian crisis of women being burned with acid, beaten or put to death by husbands or relatives who claim they've shamed their families. The Times accessed many abuse victims inside the shelters where they sought safety, hidden from their own families and most of the world, too.

[Link: www.washtimes.com...]

re: #66 Sabraguy

EU is toothless to wage war these days.

re: #58 akak

[Link: www.kuna.net.kw...]

And they are trying to advise the west?

Toy bombs? That work? I hope it catches on.

re: #60 taxfreekiller

There are only two choices now, summit or fight.

Can we fight our way to the summit? High ground, y'know.

re: #60 taxfreekiller

There are only two choices now, summit or fight.

Summit? What has mountaineering got to do with this?

They just don't get the irony, do they? Fitna held up a mirror to their faces, calling them out on their culture of violence. Mo cartoons painted him as what he was - a murdering thug (with a 9-year old "wife").

And now, in an attempt to show the world what they're really about, they threaten to attack European missions abroad.

Let's see if there is any testicular fortitude left in Europe.

DONT TREAD ON ME

re: #66 Sabraguy

The EU should politely inform them that the next attack on the embassy of a member country will be considered an act of war.

Well I have no problem with that approach, but they had better check with us first. After all when and if the EU ever declares war, I assume they mean for us to fight it for them.

re: #55 zombie

Charming. When do we start seething?

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously not up to date on the NY art scene.

Thank you, my thoughts exactly, although much more succinct than I could have managed.

/I watched Christ blasphemied on "Family Guy" last night. No cars or Euroweenies were harmed.

re: #55 zombie

Wow. That's profound. Profoundly offensive, that is. But you don't see me strapping on a bomb vest and heading over to Pakistan to blow some "Muhammady"s up, do you?

/Of course not, you can't see me over the Internet

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Summit? What has mountaineering got to do with this?

Well summit as in diplomat-speak will be tried first..THEN they'll submit on all fours.

Of course, no matter how much restraint the West uses, India may still nuke their arse.

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously not up to date on the NY art scene.

I was about to say the same thing. Yep, all "Salma's" suggestions are just so 1990s.

Since the "art work" of "piss Christ" is considered "Art", and the left is forever screaming, "Free Speech", and, "It's Art", then somebody needs to put a koran in a vat of urine, and see just exactly what these kooks(the left and islamofascist human butchers) think about it.

"Piss Koran", hey. it's "art", right?

Well!

It's okay. When Obama is president, he will talk to them, and they'll start behaving.

re: #84 republic

Since the "art work" of "piss Christ" is considered "Art", and the left is forever screaming, "Free Speech", and, "It's Art", then somebody needs to put a koran in a vat of urine, and see just exactly what these kooks(the left and islamofascist human butchers) think about it.

"Piss Koran", hey. it's "art", right?

Well!

Up there with DaVinci if you ask me!

re: #84 republic

Since the "art work" of "piss Christ" is considered "Art", and the left is forever screaming, "Free Speech", and, "It's Art", then somebody needs to put a koran in a vat of urine, and see just exactly what these kooks(the left and islamofascist human butchers) think about it.

"Piss Koran", hey. it's "art", right?

Well!

I would not put the Quran into a vat of urine.

How would I be able to set it on fire after that?

They said that the delegation would also tell the EU that if such acts against Islam are not controlled, more attacks on the EU diplomatic missions abroad could not be ruled out.

This is another good example of the interplay between active terrorists and socalled moderate muslims - in this case Pakistani government officials - who officially denounce terrorist acts.

Europe should show this delegation the door and launch some counterclaims or close some embassies. They won't of course. They're going to suck up to them.

re: #66 Sabraguy

The EU should politely inform them that the next attack on the embassy of a member country will be considered an act of war.

The EU? Declare war all by themselves? Without the U.S.? That would only happen in some sort of Tom Clancy-esque thriller, and then, no one would really believe it could happen.

Benazhir Bhutto's husband/son are now leading Pakistan, are they not?

DIdn't their People's Party win, the party started by Benazir Bhutto's socialist/leftist father?

It's a leftist thing to do, demand controls on speech, but have their cake & eat it while horrid things are said on Fridays at the Madrassah. Rev. Wright & Pfleger will be doing a lot of business with these Pakistani folks.

re: #87 JamesTKirk

I would not put the Quran into a vat of urine.

How would I be able to set it on fire after that?

Diesel should work just fine.

AND all this bullshit is because we didn't support Mushareef the way we should have, after he took down the Red Mosque and tried to move troops into the frontier areas to chase out the Taliban and Al-Q goons.

re: #91 OldLineTexan

Diesel should work just fine.

But I'd prefer a blend of grain alcohol and bacon fat.

This should be taken as a threat. In fact, it could be considered a threat of war; consulates and embassies are part of the national territory of the country that has the embassy.
Such attacks, if they are carried out by the host government, is an act of war. By sending this threat, Pakistan has accepted responsibility for any further attacks.
Pakistan should be told, in no uncertain terms, that they will be held responsible for such attacks, and therefore they must take action to prevent them, and to destroy the groups that could cause such attacks.
Failure to do so will be considered an act of war, and the first retaliatory step will be to completely destroy Pakistan's nuclear capability, including all nuclear sites, weapons, and personnel.
Given they support the Taliban and let it operate from the "border region", they should be told this anyway.

Let's hope Carter II doesn't get in office, because he'll be worse on embassy attacks than Carter I.

Europe should nail their turbans to their heads and send them home.

Obama's report to the American people after his Pakistani talk.
"Ok , we can work with these guys. Let us drop the Bill Of Rights and go with the core Constitution. And Michelle just loves the Blue Burka on the girls."

re: #94 Kosh's Shadow

Great Post.

Um, fuck you paki's.

The Vancouverization of Europe begins.

Under a leftist, terrorist-capitulating and perhaps sympathising president you can be sure we'll be hearing this same ultimatum soon.

to borrow from BabbaZee,

Gird yer loins!

Take away: Be more tolerant of the intolerant or we'll kill you! Sounds like a great deal for them.

re: #94 Kosh's Shadow

Yeah. if they want to be a state, let them start acting like one and bearing the responsibility of one.

This state solution may actually solve us some problems. It would be easier to destroy a state of terror than multi-terror-sponsoring groups amongst multi-allies eh?

I have said before, the WOT/counter-jihad is going to become a "Private sector" matter soon.

re: #10 see bs

Islam - "Don't badmouth us or we'll Keel you!"

Admiral Akbar!

we'll Keel you

re: #102 right wing zephyr

oops, I need to read the stuff. I was thinking Palestine not Pakistine.

lol

re: #42 nyc redneck

criticizing islam is the first thing every european intelligent free human being should do when they get up in the morning.

Fixed.

Lest we forget:

Cpl Steven J. Crowley
Marine Security Guard Battalion
MSG Detachment
Islamabad

KIA during a rampage at the U.S. Embassy on Nov. 21, 1979, in Islamabad, Pakistan

[Link: www.msg-history.com...]

Who was president on that date? It'll come to me...

Rest in peace, Marine.

European Union - they're a joke! The Poopistani delegation will show up with their demands and the nutless wonders in Brussels will bend over backwards to appease them. You cant spell EUNUCH without EU!

With any luck, the EU will destroy its own credibility and cringe itself out of existence. The national governments of Europe can take over then, with maybe better results. Or at least more cojones.

The "Bush Lied" Lie...

...dive into Rockefeller's report, in search of where exactly President Bush lied about what his intelligence agencies were telling him about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, and you may be surprised by what you find.

On Iraq's nuclear weapons program? The president's statements "were generally substantiated by intelligence community estimates."

On biological weapons, production capability and those infamous mobile laboratories? The president's statements "were substantiated by intelligence information."

On chemical weapons, then? "Substantiated by intelligence information."

On weapons of mass destruction overall (a separate section of the intelligence committee report)? "Generally substantiated by intelligence information." Delivery vehicles such as ballistic missiles? "Generally substantiated by available intelligence." Unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to deliver WMDs? "Generally substantiated by intelligence information."

...statements regarding Iraq's support for terrorist groups other than al-Qaeda "were substantiated by intelligence information." Statements that Iraq provided safe haven for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and other terrorists with ties to al-Qaeda "were substantiated by the intelligence assessments," and statements regarding Iraq's contacts with al-Qaeda "were substantiated by intelligence information." The report is left to complain about "implications" and statements that "left the impression" that those contacts led to substantive Iraqi cooperation.

Since when is "substantiated by intelligence" considered a lie?

re: #111 Kenneth

When partisan democrats say so....regardless of their own comments prior to the invasion.

From the chronology published regarding the attack on the US Embassy in Pakistan, regarding lack of help by the Paksistani police or military:

15:00 -"Gen Akhtar, head of Pakistan Intelligence arrived at the scene and is doing nothing."
-"20 demonstrators on the roof firing weapons."

18:55 -"Pak military tries to disarm Marines - Marines refuse to give up weapons.
[Link: www.msg-history.com...]

EU, I got two words for ya'...

WAKE UP!

And in closing, I would like to address the whiners in the "delegation"...

$UCK it!

That is all.

re: #107 jcbunga

Lest we forget:

Cpl Steven J. Crowley
Marine Security Guard Battalion
MSG Detachment
Islamabad

KIA during a rampage at the U.S. Embassy on Nov. 21, 1979, in Islamabad, Pakistan

[Link: www.msg-history.com...]

Who was president on that date? It'll come to me...

Rest in peace, Marine.

* * *
Bless that Marine slaughtered on Carter's watch.

Carter's First Administration didn't connect the dots and realize weakness was provocative to radical ideologue mullahs, and lost after one term because of the Hostage Crisis Carter couldn't end honorably nor decisively nor militarily nor diplomatically.

Like Europeans, America gave the Clinton Administration a second term despite Clinton's weakness in the face of those attacks on our World Trade Center and foreign embassies during his first term.

Weakness & appeasement is not the way.

I recognize that it is politically incorrect to say this - but -

- anyone who has bothered to read the Qur'an, Sunnah, and Hadith will know that at the root of Islam's anthropology is the principle of subjugation. Alternatively, the U.S. Constitution is founded upon the principle of human free agency (having its roots in the Judeo-Christian ethic). It is this concept of free agency (and with it - personal culpability) which declares that a man must answer for his own convictions and actions in life as one who is free to formulate such convictions and actions. However, the fundamental epistemology of Islam does not allow for such freedom - and therefore, no-one should be surprised when such domineering drivel comes oozing out of countries that are ruled and oppressed by such a belief system. For Islam, a man is only "free" if he submits to "Allah" - which is no freedom at all. Here in America, you are allowed to believe such non-sense (and I am thankful for such a freedom) - but those who wish to compel others into such bondage and subjugation are in fact committing an act of treason against our nation and its most fundamental premise of existence.

The only reason why liberals are friendly to such people as these is because of the political expedience which says "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." That form of politics may appear to work for a brief moment of appeasement - but we can simply consult Neville Chamberlain's attempt to appease Adolph Hitler in order to understand where such bad thinking leads.

re: #113 jcbunga

From the chronology published regarding the attack on the US Embassy in Pakistan, regarding lack of help by the Paksistani police or military:

15:00 -"Gen Akhtar, head of Pakistan Intelligence arrived at the scene and is doing nothing."
-"20 demonstrators on the roof firing weapons."

18:55 -"Pak military tries to disarm Marines - Marines refuse to give up weapons.
[Link: www.msg-history.com...]

* * *
Thank heaven we've got drones to do the work that Pakistanis won't.

"...and the production of an anti-Islam film by a Dutch Legislator"

The film was done by a woman named Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She also wrote a book called Infidel. I highly recommend this book. It will really open your eyes.

i love the smell of capitulation in the morning! smells like...

sharia.

re: #55 zombie

From: rajaman1112000@...
Subject: fuck your virgin mary, bastards

Is that the best he's got? Pathetic.

Here's hoping this "ultimatum" will spur Europe (and by extension) the rest of the world into realizing what we're truly up against. If muslims don't get their way, they will kill, in the most cowardly fashion possible, anybody they disagree with or they feel "offends" them. Perhaps, someday soon, we'll hear a loud popping sound, signifying that the Western world pulled its head out of its AAAASS, followed by this sound:

"Memo to muslims: suck it. If you don't want to be treated like babies, stop acting like babies. At some point, we will no longer tolerate your attemtps to deprive us of our freedoms. It would be far easier for us to put and end to your existence than to join it, so stop pressing your luck."

Sadly, this will never happen. There are too many idiots driving around with those dopey *coexist* stickers on their sleds.

*out*

Europe's response: "NUTS!"
/wishful thinking

Seriously, it's like, if they give in, why do they need any military at all? Why do they need NATO? What are they defending? Just meaningless borders.

What's the purpose of the Paki delegation given the well known & often demonstrated weakness' of the EUroids? We're probably not being given the full picture.

re: #93 JamesTKirk

But I'd prefer a blend of grain alcohol and bacon fat.

just the bacon fat.... we'll drink the alcohol as part of the performance, dancing with scantily clad females.... %-)

Danish Apology to the Muslim World

someone needs to point out to these barbarians that freedom of speech is part of *our* religion.... and that they should FOAD.

re: #111 Kenneth

When 'substantiated' is being interpreted by democrats.

These democrats{spit} are commissioning the greatest betrayal of the republic and people since our founding. When push-comes to shove--and I do believe it will, given the enemies we face--this is one individual who won't find, nor spare, an iota of pity for their wretched souls.

It is time to quarantine nations where this mindset is accepted.

Pakistan can kiss my infidel arse.

Taking note that every time the Muslimists have one of these explosive protests, the only ones who are actually killed or hurt are fellow Muslims, you'd think the EU would be in favor of that and would vow to publish MORE cartoons. I'm pretty sure that's the mind set here in the U.S., any way, except for maybe Berkeley, Vermont and Detroit

re: #18 alegrias

Pakistan should demand Europe contribute medical burn units to treat Pakistani women whose husbands throw acid on their faces. HONOR Pakistani women, don't honor murder them.

Pakistan's abuse of women is the front page story on today's Washington Times.

I'll try to link.

Billions for FGM reconstructive surgery.

This may be a co-ordinated Muslimn onslaught on the Euro's. The Malaysian PM gave a keynote interview in the Sunday Telegraph at the WE telling the British that their Muslims had a right to live under sharia law if they chose.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Which is worse, the pricks from Pakistan, or the assholes from the EU?

Just because said pricks are fucking said assholes does not mean that the assholes are in a morally superior position.

The only thing worse than a bully is a boot-licker.

re: #13 zombie

In a sane world, the delegation would be kicked out on their asses. And laughed off the continent.

There you go again, Zombie! "In a sane world..."

Wake up and smell the insanity! :)

JAFLW

re: #23 WitchDoctor

Calling on other countries (heck, an entire region) to curb its freedom of speech so as not to offend?

In what crazy world is this not considered an affront of the highest order short of actual war?

"We keeeeel nuuuuuuuke you!"

JAFLW

The obvious moral, cultural & political superiority of Pakistan is evidenced by the huge immigration of Europeans and North Americans to Pakistan. We all want to live in Pakistan and enjoy the benefits of their great society.

Or am I missing something?

re: #111 Kenneth

Since when is "substantiated by intelligence" considered a lie?

When it doesn't fit The Narrative™.

By any means necessary...

Lest we forget:

Army Warrant Officer Bryan Ellis

Also KIA during a rampage at the U.S. Embassy on Nov. 21, 1979, in Islamabad, Pakistan.

Interesting to read how Carter thanked the Paks for their help, and how those there disagreed:

"He was buried at Arlington National Cemetery. President Jimmy Carter sat next to his mother, Georgine, at the funeral. In an earlier phone call, he told her that Crowley died a hero. White House officials initially credited the Pakistani government with rescuing those in the vault, but Marcia Gauger disputed that assertion. "It was our Marine guards who saved us," she wrote in Time. "Nobody else." "

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

They said that the delegation would also tell the EU that if such acts against Islam are not controlled, more attacks on the EU diplomatic missions abroad could not be ruled out.

Threatening an ambassador is tantamount to a declaration of war.

I didn't expect it quite this soon.

Europe will eventually fragment into Christian and Muslim zones and it will look like Northern Ireland only much worse.

These Pakistani delegates should be told to fuck off and die, but they'll probably be kissed up to, apologized to and then precede to curtail freedom of speech in the name of tolerance and multi-culturalism. I hope I'm dead wrong, but somehow I doubt it. Euro-pussies.

re: #55 zombie

A good place to reprise a recent email I received.

This is cut-and-paste, verbatim, with no changes:

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From: rajaman1112000@...
Subject: fuck your virgin mary, bastards

dont you white bastards have anything better to do.
if you want to draw images why not draw them of jesus breaking virgin marys virginity!
or jesus being raped on the cross! ummm that would be nice!
all you christian bastards know you are living a lie, your bible keeps on changing, our quran is the same since when it was revealed!
so down with your virgin marys innocent crack
down with your jesus being raped on the cross
down with all the danish bastards
down with the entire christian motherfucking aimless religion!

salma - pakistan
proud to be a muhammady!

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WOW zombie...sounds like the kind of guy you'd want to down a few beers with.

The EU is not at war with Islam.

However, Islam is clearly at war with the EU. and the entire non-Islamic world.

Dar al Harb, "The house of war" as Mohammad (his war be unto us) so clearly put it in Arabic.

Yurp is going to serve as our example and warning.

Hopefully we won't follow them, but will instead watch their demise, and fortify.

Stop ALL immigration from Pakistan NOW! All the jobs at Dunkin Donuts are filled! ...mmm, filled donuts...Boston Creme donuts...vanilla-filled donuts...ohhh...

re: #137 Kenneth

Why it must be their tribal culture which makes it just sooo enticing! It's a macho paradise! Gang rapes, multiple wives, honor killings, incest, marriage to trees (that's reserved for wayward women) etc -- plus lots of guns and ammo...why it's a Libertarian, Anarchic Paradise!

The EU politicians are too busy pushing their socialist nonsense on a continent and jockying for power (and being anti-American) to deal with what's really important. The safety and security of the people of Europe. They are unspeakable, and I have little doubt, 'sans plums'.
However, there is hope because the Dutch and the French voted against the 'constitution' (the Treaty of Lisbon is the same thing with a little tweaking) so you know it's got to be a stinker. Many people across Europe are sick and tired of them and their voices are getting louder.

As far as the Pakistanis are concerned - if I ran Britain (now why is 'when I ruled the world' singing in my head LOL) and wanted to save energy I would give them 4 words -
Seven-seven (followed by)
Go away

If I wanted to be a little more diplomatic I would tell them that the Government of Pakistan was responsible for the safety of all foreign embassies and consulates on their soil.
I would remind them that the British embassy is British soil. Any attack on it would be an attack on Britain. As such, it is defined as an act of war. If the attack came after intelligence was provided enabling the Pakistani military/police to take preventative measures or if the attackers were spotted and the police did nothing then I would hold the Pakistani Government personally responsible.

If their attitude is that any attacks are our fault (various stupid reasons) I would remind them that they are responsible for civil order. People are responsible for their own behaviour and when that personal responsibility extends to a society then the Government is responsible for setting the boundries of what is acceptable behaviour.
I would remind them that in Western countries we have freedom of speech. America has the 1st amendment of the Constitution and Britain has freedom of speech up to a certain point that we find acceptable. One of the consequences of free speech is that sometimes people get offended. However, as it is not possible to accurately predict what will offend each individual within our society then they just have to put up with it. Hysterical oversensitivity does not go down well here. Violent acts are not condoned, they are punished.
If the Pakistanis want to end our right to free speech they will not do so. We have come to the tolerance we have in our society over thousands of years but it is based on reciprosity. If people chose to come to our country and then piss on it, we do not take kindly to it and we say so, forthrightly. We will keep our freedom of speech.
If they are concerned about the criticism of islam in the west then they should look carefully at why we have become so critical, esp post 9/11 and 7/7. We have faced an onslaught of intolerance, insult, offence, provokation and direct attack. Have we responded with violence against nationals from those terrorists and countries that attack us? No. This is not weakness. It takes enormous strength and restraint not to lash out against those that attack us. The Pakistanis need to learn that as they need to learn some respect for the rest of the world that is non-Muslim.
Making threats in this manner is very stupid. Pakistan has had billions of dollars in aid from Britain and America. It would appear with little success on their part in dealing with the terrorists in their country.
If they wish to try our patience then we can withdraw both our embassies and our aid.
If they try to attack us then they will be met with force. Regretfully, as they are a Commonwealth country, this would not go down very well in Britain but I think we have now had enough of their behaviour. The problem isn't that we don't understand islam. The problem is that we do. Islamic countries don't seem to understand this.
*sigh*

re: #148 Is it me?

But Islamic nor liberal thought does not recognize personal responsibility. It is our own fault when we are attacked, don't you know!

re: #52 winston06

Pakistan is the most dangerous nation, I repeat the nation, on this planet.

I wholeheartedly agree with you - especially when I read the Dawn newspapers, and can only imagine the stuff that doesn't make it into the papers due to coverups, bribery, corruption, etc. The lady at the Washington Times (Falkenberg) who thinks that the West is ignoring the human rights abuses in Pakistan apparently runs with a liberal crowd. Otherwise there are those of us conservatives out there who do nothing but preach about the injustices occuring in every Middle Eastern country ;in the name of Islam and honor. She needs a new set of friends, or is a closet conservative!

re: #126 Sounder

Danish Apology to the Muslim World

Thats REALLY cool!

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously not up to date on the NY art scene.

Actually, their Quran was changed and re-written 3 times since the "revelation" to Muhammad.