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Politico: Candidates Can't Control Their Web Sites

Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:28:50 pm PDT

Ben Smith quotes one of the left’s most rabid haters and his ludicrous counterattack: Ben Smith’s Blog: Speaking of candidate sites... - Politico.com.

Aravosis finds, on McCain’s site, some anti-Semitism as well, along with a long discussion of whether Obama is the anti-Christ, put to rest by the reminder that he can’t be, because the anti-Christ will be a Jew.

Also, some slurs that don’t bear reprinting.

Which, as on the Obama site, probably have more to do with overwhelmed moderators than much else. (The grossest slur is in a post that also attacks McCain.)

The raised level of press and public sophistication on this is striking: I think at this point, most people are willing to accept that both candidates can’t control everything that happens on their sites, a source of major confusion in 2004, when MoveOn was accused of using Nazi comparisons because a user of the site did.

This is absolute nonsense. Two points:

1) The candidates definitely can control what happens on their blogs. This is an extremely lame excuse. All it takes is a few motivated moderators; and it’s not like Barack Obama doesn’t have the money to pay for it. If they can’t even control a web site, how are we supposed to believe they’ll be able to handle the most powerful job in the world? And yes, the McCain camp should do a better job of it too... however...

2) It’s completely, 100% wrong to equate comments from anonymous people at the John McCain blog to registered, approved blog posts at the Obama site. This is the difference between commenters and bloggers, and again we see the attempted blurring of the line — in this case to excuse the hateful content at the Barack Obama site. Normally, leftists try to blur this line to smear center-right blog owners; they’ve been using this tactic against me for years. It shows that they’re willing and able to switch their line of attack around 180 degrees, depending on who they’re smearing or who they’re trying to defend.

UPDATE at 6/9/08 4:46:44 pm:

Yesterday, this same creep Aravosis attacked John McCain for his disability pension: Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?

This ugly, low attack was posted by a blogger, not a commenter. See the difference?

UPDATE at 6/9/08 6:04:10 pm:

I retract the statement that blogs are approved at the Obama site; they’re not. I was told by several readers that they were, but this turns out not to be the case. (I stand by everything else I wrote.)

However, every blog post and every comment at the Obama site includes a ‘report for objectionable content’ button. What does it say about that community that either: 1) no one reported any of the dozens of incredibly offensive posts we’ve been highlighting, or 2) they were reported, but the administrators did nothing?

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1 Racer X  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:29:51pm

Amateurs.

2 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:30:20pm

Candidates. Plural?

3 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:30:32pm

We might approve them.....but they are not our fault.

/B.O. Campaign

4 jones  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:31:06pm

But Charles is responsible for everything any lizard has ever thought. Sure thing.

5 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:31:15pm

I was for these anti-America, hate filled Blog posts...before I was against them.

or

These are not the posters I used to know.

6 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:31:49pm

Good point, Charles.
Nice attempt at moral equivalence by Politico.

7 guzziguy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:32:12pm

re: #3 WrathofG-d

We might approve them.....but they are not our fault.

/B.O. Campaign

That's worth a +1!

8 Racer X  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:32:17pm

Obama and his people cannot even run a web site. Do they really think they can run a country?

The audacity!

9 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:32:49pm

Good evening, Lizards.

I know it's only Monday, but is anyone else drinking?

10 snowcrash  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:33:14pm

I hope McCain has some tech savvy people working for him. The hounds will be sniffing around and anything found WILL be reported in the MSM.

11 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:33:16pm

Actually, I think Obama's site IS moderated, but the moderators didn't see or have any problems with what was being posted.

12 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:33:34pm

A completely disjointed, dishonest rationale.

But entirely predictable.

13 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:21pm
and again we see the attempted blurring of the line

The entirety of the Obama campaign response each time the facts get in their way. Just blur the lines. It's all equal, everything is everything.

14 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:30pm

re: #9 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I know it's only Monday, but is anyone else drinking?

The myobama moderator, perhaps.

15 IgofAntioch  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:37pm

If the moderators of the Obama blog are as rabid and as wacko as the posters, then they don't have the intellectual and moral tools to discern what is appropriate and what is just trash.

16 elevenbravo1969  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:39pm

G-d help us all if any of these morons have the ear of the anointed one......if......he manages to get elected. I kind of think they would.

17 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:41pm

re: #9 goddessoftheclassroom

no - had a weekend to remember, though! Here, for those looking for something bad a lizard did - I got a tattoo. Yep! Me.

18 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:41pm

"
2) It’s completely, 100% wrong to equate comments from anonymous people at the John McCain blog to registered, approved blog posts at the Obama site. This is the difference between commenters and bloggers, and again we see the attempted blurring of the line — in this case to excuse the hateful content at the Barack Obama site. Normally, leftists try to blur this line to smear center-right blog owners; they’ve been using this tactic against me for years. It shows that they’re willing and able to switch their line of attack around 180 degrees, depending on who they’re smearing or who they’re trying to defend."

Exactly. Excellent point.

19 Milk Toast Intolerant  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:58pm

Charles isn't even running for any political office, yet he somehow can manage the content posted on this mega blog all by himself. Why is that? Could it be just competence?

20 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:34:59pm

Busy day.
Here it is 4:30 and we've surpassed page views and visits for all 24 hours of yesterday.
How does today compare with other high traffic days, I wonder?

21 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:35:03pm

re: #8 Racer X

Obama and his people cannot even run a web site. Do they really think they can run a country?

The audacity!

The audacity! of NOPE!

22 guzziguy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:35:18pm

re: #15 IgofAntioch

If the moderators of the Obama blog are as rabid and as wacko as the posters, then they don't have the intellectual and moral tools to discern what is appropriate and what is just trash.

Also worth a +1

23 leboaz  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:35:28pm

quote-
(The grossest slur is in a post that also attacks McCain.)

Hasn't he read even a small part of the things Charles has posted in the last couple of days?
I can think of a gross slur for him, but it's not for repeating here.

24 troonbop  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:35:31pm

Ben! Ben Politico? Are you reading this? I'm just a nutbar poster, I'm not the voice of Charles Johnson! See the difference?

25 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:35:42pm

re: #17 ArmyWife

no - had a weekend to remember, though! Here, for those looking for something bad a lizard did - I got a tattoo. Yep! Me.

There's no such thing as a "bad" lizard. :)

26 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:35:56pm

re: #9 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I know it's only Monday, but is anyone else drinking?

I only drink on days that end in "Y".

27 Reno911  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:36:00pm

"It was a humid hot day in June and the clocks were striking thirteen."

- Apologies to Orwell

28 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:36:34pm

re: #22 guzziguy

Also worth a +1

Good point.

29 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:36:35pm

Still waiting for Barack's Major Speech on Political Blogs. You know, the one where he'll blame American for his problem.

30 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:36:55pm

I don't know of any requirement that the antichrist must be a Jew. Is that something that the Darbyites cooked up?

31 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:03pm

re: #9 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I know it's only Monday, but is anyone else drinking?

slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp

32 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:17pm

re: #29 HelloDare

Still waiting for Barack's Major Speech on Political Blogs. You know, the one where he'll blame American for his problem.

and suggest a new government program to deal with it!

33 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:18pm

Obama is a fraud, and I hope to goodness more and more people see through him.

I will save my other comments until after we pass 100.

34 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:24pm

re: #29 HelloDare

Still waiting for Barack's Major Speech on Political Blogs. You know, the one where he'll blame American for his problem.

Those are not the blogs he thought he knew.

35 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:38pm

re: #31 pre-Boomer Marine brat

slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp

I mean from a glass, not the toilet...

MWAH!

36 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:43pm

Listen Obama supporters -- YOU are the problem.

You are today's rabid anti-Semites. You have exacerbated the Mideast conflict by refusing to acknowledge the evil of radical Islam thus encouraging a second holocaust.

You are responsible for the gas prices because you worship the environment, not God, and thus won't allow drilling and exploration.

You are hate. The crap on your site has been posted by Obama's supporters ... perhaps even you, gentle reader?

Its all about you, isn't it?
You are such foolish narcissists.

You need to grow up. Get a real job. Reproduce.
And, mostly, you need to give back to society instead of sucking it dry.

37 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:51pm

re: #20 mean Gene

Busy day.
Here it is 4:30 and we've surpassed page views and visits for all 24 hours of yesterday.
How does today compare with other high traffic days, I wonder?

I'm startin' to get concerned for the hamsters.

38 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:37:58pm

re: #20 mean Gene

Busy day.
Here it is 4:30 and we've surpassed page views and visits for all 24 hours of yesterday.
How does today compare with other high traffic days, I wonder?

LGF got a mention on Rush today.

39 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:38:21pm

I only hope, that this time next year we can expect to hear this kind of exchange:

Rather: "I had that awful nightmare again last night. You know, the one where I am devoured by an army of giant lizards".

Obama: "OMG! Me too"!

40 Silhouette  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:38:24pm
41 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:38:37pm

re: #17 ArmyWife

no - had a weekend to remember, though! Here, for those looking for something bad a lizard did - I got a tattoo. Yep! Me.

Can we ask where ? :> )

42 mitthrawnurdo  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:38:47pm

re: #17 ArmyWife

Well, it depends on where the tattoo is.

As for me, I ate meat for two of my meals today, increasing my carbon output.

/Sue me.

43 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:08pm

re: #30 David IV of Georgia

Obama is Jewish? I thought he went to the NOI influenced Trinity Church of Christ....or did he convert to Judaism after he threw them under the bus?

44 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:18pm

I hope everyone is starting to realize now why I've been intolerant of extreme comments here.

45 EC Marm  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:18pm

re: #30 David IV of Georgia

I don't know of any requirement that the antichrist must be a Jew.


News to me, too. Methinks BenSmith needs a fact-checker on his blog.

46 mitthrawnurdo  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:19pm

re: #41 ted

Ah, it wasn't only me that was curious.. :)

47 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:24pm

"most people are willing to accept that both candidates can’t control everything that happens on their sites"

To my way of thinking, this is fundamentally the old "everybody's doing it" pseudo-rationalization. Am I too far off base?

48 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:38pm

re: #44 Charles

Yes sir.

49 elevenbravo1969  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:44pm

re: #33 goddessoftheclassroom

The people who get their news from MSNBC and CNN certainly will never hear anything negative about Mr. O.

50 guzziguy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:46pm

re: #36 hermeneutics

Listen Obama supporters -- YOU are the problem.

You are today's rabid anti-Semites. You have exacerbated the Mideast conflict by refusing to acknowledge the evil of radical Islam thus encouraging a second holocaust.

You are responsible for the gas prices because you worship the environment, not God, and thus won't allow drilling and exploration.

You are hate. The crap on your site has been posted by Obama's supporters ... perhaps even you, gentle reader?

Its all about you, isn't it?
You are such foolish narcissists.

You need to grow up. Get a real job. Reproduce.
And, mostly, you need to give back to society instead of sucking it dry.

You could have been a great help to the country simply by leaving off that one word.

51 BuddyG  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:39:54pm

Ann Coulter June-4-2008 article


"Words mean nothing to liberals. They say whatever will help advance
their cause at the moment, switch talking points in a heartbeat, and then act indignant if anyone uses the exact same argument they were using five minutes ago..."

52 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:40:03pm

But HuffPo says Politico is part of the right-wing smear machine?

Whateva

Anywho, how long before these troofers especially start crying "censorship" and consipiracy for having all their blogs deleted?

53 snowcrash  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:40:17pm

re: #38 Bobblehead
I wish I heard it. Definitly a SQUEE moment!

54 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:40:21pm

re: #26 VegasRick

I only drink on days that end in "Y".

I quit drinking.

/Every night.

55 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:40:32pm

Maybe Obama can resign from his website and begin the search for a new website.

56 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:40:58pm

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

I mean from a glass, not the toilet...

MWAH!

*wangs tail, looks innocently appealing, licks her face*

(*gets booted into the back yard*)

57 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:04pm

re: #55 JammieWearingFool

re: #55 JammieWearingFool

Maybe Obama can resign from his website and begin the search for a new website.

... after the election.

58 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:18pm

If a candidate can't control his/her site, they have no business setting one up. Ostensibly the sites are to showcase who the candidate is, and by extension, his/her constituency is. I bet if we put up a blog Republicans for Barack and talked about how he really is gonna cut taxes and hand out guns to all law abiding citizens, while going to Iraq to shoot at a few terrorists himself, it would be taken down immediately.

59 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:29pm

re: #54 Bob in Breckenridge

I quit drinking.

/Every night.

I don't get drunk.

/I pass out.

60 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:30pm

Anyone who refuses to see the difference between right and wrong will believe anything and will do anything.

61 BuddyG  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:30pm

re: #54 Bob in Breckenridge

I quit drinking.

/Every night.

I drink anymore. And I don't drink any less.

62 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:31pm

re: #56 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL! ROTFL!

You do make my day...

63 mitthrawnurdo  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:32pm

re: #44 Charles

Yeppers - you're held to a higher standard than even a Presidential Nominee.

64 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:34pm

re: #45 EC Marm

News to me, too. Methinks BenSmith needs a fact-checker on his blog.

Not only does Ben Smith need a fact checker, he has to stop getting his "facts" from leftwing bloggers.

65 Milk Toast Intolerant  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:37pm

These Obama supporters insult our intelligence by excusing the hateful, anti-Semitic blogs being posted on the site of a man who could be our next President. It's sheer laziness that with all their resources and money, they can't hire some moderately competent techs to monitor that site. If one is faithful with the little things, one should be rewarded more responsibilities. If Obama can't even have his site run in a respectful and presidential manner, how can he run the country?

66 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:43pm

re: #44 Charles

I hope everyone is starting to realize now why I've been intolerant of extreme comments here.

I realized that long ago. No substitute for excellent judgement.

67 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:55pm

re: #43 WrathofG-d

Obama is Jewish? I thought he went to the NOI influenced Trinity Church of Christ....or did he convert to Judaism after he threw them under the bus?

Oh, NO. I'm not saying Tovarishch Hussien is Jewish. You must have misread my post.

68 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:41:59pm

1. Charles I like it when I hear you use the word center when describing your blog (center-right)

2. People who can easily switch 180 º haven't much of a center. There's that word again.

3. Kudos to you.

69 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:03pm

Is Obama confusing the adjective moderate which is anathema to him, with the verb moderate? That might be the problem.

70 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:16pm

re: #44 Charles

Quite.

71 Dahveed  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:17pm

The question really is why do anti-Semites, 9/11 truthers, and other extremists have an attraction to Barack Obama? He has spoken to the extremists and has coddled them. There is nobody like Jeremiah Wright or Louis Farrakhan associated with the McCain campaign. If they are posting to McCain's website they are automatically dismissed because that's not who McCain is. Barack Obama certainly cannot say the same thing.

72 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:19pm

re: #46 mitthrawnurdo

Ah, it wasn't only me that was curious.. :)

Yea !

73 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:48pm

Can those clowns actually do ANYTHING?

Besides flap around like silly asses?

74 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:52pm

re: #44 Charles

I hope everyone is starting realize now why I've been intolerant of extreme comments here.

Thank you Charles. You may delete this comment now.

75 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:42:57pm

re: #56 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Goddess, what does "MWAH" mean? I'm not terribly savvy on Web slang.

76 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:43:06pm

No extreme comments = keeping your powder dry.

77 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:43:13pm

re: #41 ted

yes you can. In between my shoulder blades. I need to be able to keep it very well hidden to protect my reputation! Its the Army star logo and above it is says "Proud Army".... and then below the U.S. Army part of the logo it says "wife" Its curved and in script, and there are dog tags coming from behind the star. No names in the tags, that is taboo, but clearly they stand for Army Husband.

78 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:43:41pm

re: #44 Charles

And I thank you for that. It's one of the major reasons that I spend more time here than at any other blog. Also one of the many reasons that this is the only blog I post comments on.

79 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:43:45pm

re: #65 Milk Toast Intolerant

Actually the President was only intended to run the Federal Government.'

We run our own lives and thus collectively run the country.

80 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:43:47pm

charles, you are driving them crazy.
they are out matched and dizzy from the punches.

81 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:43:48pm

Obama attracts society's "broken wings" -- those who flap around madly, never get anywhere in life and expect to be carried.

82 greenmiler  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:44:02pm

I guess we can't blame Obama for not being able to find a 'moderate'-r

83 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:44:09pm

re: #75 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's the onomatopoeic word for a sound of a BIG kiss.

84 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:44:19pm

re: #44 Charles

I hope everyone is starting to realize now why I've been intolerant of extreme comments here.

If you didn't moderate the comments and racists posts were left to stand, I would be here, and many others would probably not be here either.

85 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:44:19pm

re: #55 JammieWearingFool

or maybe give us all a long preachy speech about how we need to understand the long history of Anti-Semtism and hate speech on blogs...and how we created it. Brak is going to move us past blogging.....till there everyone on the net gets along, and sees past the simple zeros and ones.

86 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:44:21pm

Alright, fess up which one of you h8ters posted this moonbat comedy gold in one of Obama's open directories?

/it makes Omana supporters look like they're really dumb

87 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:45:10pm

re: #44 Charles

I hope everyone is starting to realize now why I've been intolerant of extreme comments here.

I believe the intolerance at LGF helps center Lizards.
Should possibly the comment be judged illiberal or fanatical, maybe there's something wrong with the way I think?

88 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:45:11pm

re: #36 hermeneutics

Listen Obama supporters -- YOU are the problem.

You are today's rabid anti-Semites. You have exacerbated the Mideast conflict by refusing to acknowledge the evil of radical Islam thus encouraging a second holocaust.

You are responsible for the gas prices because you worship the environment, not God, and thus won't allow drilling and exploration.

You are hate. The crap on your site has been posted by Obama's supporters ... perhaps even you, gentle reader?

Its all about you, isn't it?
You are such foolish narcissists.

You need to grow up. Get a real job. Reproduce.
And, mostly, you need to give back to society instead of sucking it dry.

No, no. no. Please liberals, do NOT reproduce! Call Planned Parenthood for advice if you do get knocked up.

89 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:45:20pm

re: #51 BuddyG

Ann Coulter June-4-2008 article


"Words mean nothing to liberals. They say whatever will help advance
their cause at the moment, switch talking points in a heartbeat, and then act indignant if anyone uses the exact same argument they were using five minutes ago..."

words also mean nothing to jihadis.

90 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:45:40pm

re: #62 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL! ROTFL!

You do make my day...

I don't have a dog, and am not a dog person. (Of course, neither do I have a cat.) I have simply taken on brightening both our days as a pleasant task.

91 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:45:48pm

Charles, you really need a "Share this on Facebook" application so I can show this stuff to all my moonbat leaning friends, many of whom are prominent reporters here.

92 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:08pm

re: #84 coquimbojoe

If you didn't moderate the comments and racists posts were left to stand, I would be here, and many others would probably not be here either.

PIMF PIMF I would not be here PIMF PIMF

93 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:09pm

re: #77 ArmyWife

yes you can. In between my shoulder blades. I need to be able to keep it very well hidden to protect my reputation! Its the Army star logo and above it is says "Proud Army".... and then below the U.S. Army part of the logo it says "wife" Its curved and in script, and there are dog tags coming from behind the star. No names in the tags, that is taboo, but clearly they stand for Army Husband.

G-d Bless you, your husband, America and our fabulous Army !

94 nihilist  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:10pm

If the Obama campaign can't control the content at their own campaign website, then what have they been up to since the Lizards blew up da owl?

Looks like they just weren't smart enough to control it before everyone noticed it's infested with haters, fringe radicals, foreign terrorism movements, and terrorism-affiliated groups.

But even that is too generous. As Charles notes, those blogs were approved by his super sophisticated revolutionary campaign web crew.

95 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:12pm

re: #88 Bob in Breckenridge

Call an adoption agency.

96 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:13pm

re: #88 Bob in Breckenridge

Laughing here. Two of you have already chided me for that comment. I was merely thinking that raising children makes one selfless and mature.

But I see your point!

97 The Shadow Do  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:25pm

You know, some people have this notion that I am somehow aware of what goes on on my website...

98 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:31pm

"Change the world," when you can't even moderate membership on a blog.

99 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:37pm

Let just call it quits.

Even Kimi is wise to us now, and has even used her Freudian abilities to rip the blinders from our eyes.

SERIOUSLY !
By Kimi - Jun 9th, 2008 at 7:27 pm EDT

Comments | Mail to a Friend | Report Objectionable Content
ALL THESE MCCAIN SUPPORTERS ON OBAMAS BLOG ARE SO UNINFORMED !HOW CAN ANYONE THINK THAT THIS COUNTRY IS IN GOOD SHAPE? HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR MCCAIN SO WE CAN GET MORE OF BUSHS FAILED POLICIES? I GUESS DOWN DEEP INSIDE THEY REALLY WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA OR WHY WOULD THEY COME HERE !?

/game over

100 BuddyG  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:46:48pm

re: #89 nyc redneck

words also mean nothing to jihadis.


Taqqiya

101 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:47:01pm

re: #71 Dahveed

Like I said on the last thread: Wright, Pfleger, and Farrakhan are also LGF plants. Keep that one under your hat, though. Don't wanna blow their cover.
/

102 Silhouette  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:47:22pm

If they "can't" control it, why are they able to control it today? Did their delete button finally come in the mail?

103 IgofAntioch  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:47:23pm

What is instructive is what nonsense is left up until "the disinfectant of daylight" makes them remove the offensive comments. Great insight into what they really believe.

104 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:47:26pm

What is slowly coming out from the conservative blogs and talk radio is that Obama has surrounded himself with mentors, priests, terrorists, racists, Marxists, Communists and socialists at every opportunity who despise capitalism and the American way. The MSM does its best to suppress the stories unless some Hillary supporting journalist decides to publish like ABC did with Wright and the Trinity church. LGF is at the leading edge of the battle. Charles knows this and has been tightening up on loose cannons like Savage and others to limit our exposure to over the top posts.
Deflector shields up! Phasers and Photon torps online. Warp 12 and engage!

/Piccard out

105 wolfie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:47:34pm

re: #77 ArmyWife

I'm a staunchly anti-tattoo lady, but I gotta admit........
I'll give you a thumbs up for THAT one!

106 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:00pm

Today's Obama halo pic...
Yahoo pic

107 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:17pm

re: #88 Bob in Breckenridge

No, no. no. Please liberals, do NOT reproduce! Call Planned Parenthood for advice if you do get knocked up.

I know some nice conservative people that will be happy to raise your little liberalings.

108 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:27pm

re: #83 goddessoftheclassroom

It's the onomatopoeic word for a sound of a BIG kiss.

LOL! Now I get it.

(a significant pause ... to add sincerity)

Thank You.

109 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:45pm

Let me play devil's advocate for a moment: Obama doesn't have Charles' huge staff of Stinky and that phalanx of hamsters.

110 Dahveed  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:53pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Like I said on the last thread: Wright, Pfleger, and Farrakhan are also LGF plants. Keep that one under your hat, though. Don't wanna blow their cover.
/

Damn! I gave the secret away.

111 mitthrawnurdo  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:55pm

re: #99 AmeriDan

Yeah, "Kimi" is onto us, better run!

112 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:48:58pm

re: #107 David IV of Georgia

God bless those people.

113 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:49:00pm

re: #65 Milk Toast Intolerant

These Obama supporters insult our intelligence by excusing the hateful, anti-Semitic blogs being posted on the site of a man who could be our next President. It's sheer laziness that with all their resources and money, they can't hire some moderately competent techs to monitor that site. If one is faithful with the little things, one should be rewarded more responsibilities. If Obama can't even have his site run in a respectful and presidential manner, how can he run the country?

See my #11.

114 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:49:49pm

re: #109 HelloDare

Let me play devil's advocate for a moment: Obama doesn't have Charles' huge staff of Stinky and that phalanx of hamsters.

Then he shouldn't allow blog comments. With great power comes great responsibility.

(He's SUCH a loser...)

115 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:50:07pm

re: #93 ted

And the uniform! Oh wait...that is another topic all together. Thank you, Ted. I was with a whole bunch of soldiers that night - all of them wonderful, all of them SHOCKED I got ink. I got voted coolest wife (at least that night!).

116 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:50:42pm

re: #71 Dahveed

That's a good question.

Strip away the ideology and look at their actual behavior. At the core of each of these movements is a Malign Narcissist Leader who see other people as either tools he can use to further his own goals or as trash to be disposed of. When these malign groups cooperate and support each other it is an attempt to use each other as a instrument to bring down their common enemy. The Society of Consent. The vast mass of rational people who refuse to be the tools of the Malignant Narcissists.

117 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:51:07pm

113 comments in 20 mins.

= 339 comments/hr.

that's a centrist rate.

118 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:51:22pm

re: #115 ArmyWife

And the uniform! Oh wait...that is another topic all together. Thank you, Ted. I was with a whole bunch of soldiers that night - all of them wonderful, all of them SHOCKED I got ink. I got voted coolest wife (at least that night!).

You go girl !

119 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:51:25pm

Hey remember when the Liberals were screaming that since Bush didn't actually see combat he was in no position to discuss the military, etc. You know, the "if you didn't serve you should just shut up, chickenhawk!" argument?

Barak Obama....meet John McCain.

120 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:51:46pm

re: #23 leboaz

quote-
(The grossest slur is in a post that also attacks McCain.)

Hasn't he read even a small part of the things Charles has posted in the last couple of days?
I can think of a gross slur for him, but it's not for repeating here.

Thank you. We are all using our extensive vocabularies to fiil in the blank you left open.

121 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:52:24pm

re: #109 HelloDare

LGF has the most dedicated group of hamsters in the blog biz. They'll run their little legs off for the boss.

122 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:53:01pm

re: #119 WrathofG-d

Lincoln was not a military man but he was a great war president.

Clausewitz (sp) says that not military training but a superior mind is needed to run a war.

123 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:53:20pm

re: #109 HelloDare

Let me play devil's advocate for a moment: Obama doesn't have Charles' huge staff of Stinky and that phalanx of hamsters.

And others. The date and name escapes me, but I remember Render doing a vacuum operation on a neo-Nazi website which was supporting Ron Paul.

124 Sifty  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:53:38pm

There just ain't a beating bad enough for some things. -W. Sutton

* Parent
* Permalink

met66 6 hours ago 1 point

Please login to rate.

He didnt put his life on the line for "us". He put his life on the line for himself or perhaps the government but not for "us". This unalloyed praise for any veteran is to me just total crap. Besides...he was a flyboy and not a grunt. He happily flew off his ship with its white linen sheets and the finest food, bombed some innocent civilians, then returned to his floating hotel. In fact, the above story doent criticize his "service" rather it criticizes him for taking money that he certainly doesnt need and probably doesnt deserve and most pointedly, for being a terrific hypocrite for denying benefits to those who DO need and deserve it. McCain is a total schmuck. He doesnt know how horrible war is...you dont get that from a fighter jet at 500mph while dropping bombs on civvies. He DOES know what torture is and yet he voted for the Military Commissions act and is pro Bush. The guy is a total phoney.


This is the sort of human stain that causes Gorebal Warming.

125 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:53:44pm

Twenty-one threads so far today! Go, Charles! Go!

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Rah! Rah!

*drive by cartwheels*

126 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:53:48pm

re: #119 WrathofG-d

Hey remember when the Liberals were screaming that since Bush didn't actually see combat he was in no position to discuss the military, etc. You know, the "if you didn't serve you should just shut up, chickenhawk!" argument?

Barak Obama....meet John McCain.

I was just talking to a friend of mine about that (only when hill was still in the race) zero military service vs. American war Hero.

127 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:53:51pm

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

I mean from a glass, not the toilet...

MWAH!

Now that you have the summer off, the real you shows up!

128 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:54:08pm

re: #122 Ojoe

I don't think you have to be a military man to opine or make the CIC decisions....I was only repeating what the Liberals used to scream up & down about Bush, etc.

its funny how they aren't making that argument now.

129 Van Helsing  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:54:24pm

re: #119 WrathofG-d

Hey remember when the Liberals were screaming that since Bush didn't
actually see combat he was in no position to discuss the military, etc.
You know, the "if you didn't serve you should just shut up,
chickenhawk!" argument?

Barak Obama....meet John McCain.

Why yes, Wrath. Yes I do remember that. We have troops in harm's way and they think the best choice for CIC has zero, zip, nada, null military exposure.

Probably hasn't even read a good book.

130 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:54:48pm

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

I mean from a glass, not the toilet...

MWAH!

DECORUM!

131 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:54:56pm

re: #124 Sifty

Despicable comment you found there.

132 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:55:05pm

Any fool who cannot control his own website certain ly cannot control a government.

133 Milk Toast Intolerant  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:55:06pm

re: #113 Bob in Breckenridge

See my #11.

If their mods didn't see those hateful blogs, then they're incompetent and should be thrown under the bus. If they saw it and allowed it to remain on the site, they're nuts and need to be admitted.

134 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:55:09pm

re: #119 WrathofG-d

Hey remember when the Liberals were screaming that since Bush didn't actually see combat he was in no position to discuss the military, etc. You know, the "if you didn't serve you should just shut up, chickenhawk!" argument?

Barak Obama....meet John McCain.

*Regretting I have only one up-tick to give*

135 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:55:35pm

re: #132 The Other Les

Copy editing really helps.

136 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:55:42pm

re: #47 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"most people are willing to accept that both candidates can’t control everything that happens on their sites"

To my way of thinking, this is fundamentally the old "everybody's doing it" pseudo-rationalization. Am I too far off base?


Not far off base at all.

137 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:55:48pm

re: #128 WrathofG-d

They only make the convenient argument of the moment.

138 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:56:30pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Today's Obama halo pic...
Yahoo pic

Thanks Kilgore, I needed my fix. I can't wait to faint at one of his speeches! Don't get me started on the leg tingles! WoOt!

139 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:56:32pm

Charles and Stinky do a great job moderating
They could if they wanted too

140 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:56:53pm

re: #125 MandyManners

Twenty-one threads so far today! Go, Charles! Go!

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Rah! Rah!

*drive by cartwheels*

*grin* ... the lady certainly adds something to the room!

141 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:56:54pm

re: #127 debutaunt

Now that you have the summer off, the real you shows up!

Oh, no, I allow my feet of clay to show--at least not until I get a pedicure!

142 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:57:12pm

re: #122 Ojoe

Lincoln was not a military man but he was a great war president.

Clausewitz (sp) says that not military training but a superior mind is needed to run a war.

Clausewitz was big about the "fog of war" and that leadership must have a firm grasp of the reality of the situation. The libs, Obama and the MSM refuse to recognize radical Islam is the sworn enemy of western Democracy. A foggy mind is a terrible thing to waste!

143 IgofAntioch  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:57:45pm

Where is all the conversation about "gravitas" that was so important in the 2000 election? Obama has absolutely no "gravitas" especially when you listen to his talks or look at his resume!

144 gymnast  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:57:48pm

Who would have ever thought that Obama had the nations largest Dry Pool Diving Team. Over course there are very low standards for membership and even then some don't seem to be able to make the cut due to the fact that they miss the empty pool and end up on Ron Paul's Team.

145 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:57:50pm

re: #44 Charles

I hope everyone is starting to realize now why I've been intolerant of extreme comments here.

Yes, indeed, and I never had an argument with your intolerance, anyhow, particularly since it's not my space.

It may have been mo' fun in the olden days, but in my opinion, it's overall mo' better now.

146 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:57:56pm

Even though this article has been linked it should be read and re-read. It is the best analysis of that foul, toxic cesspool known as the Democratic mind [excuse the oxymoron].

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

147 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:02pm

re: #107 David IV of Georgia

I know some nice conservative people that will be happy to raise your little liberalings.

My bad, you're right.

148 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:02pm

re: #133 Milk Toast Intolerant

For some reason the British Frenchify milk toast: milquetoast.
Perhaps they knew about the Fwench all along?

149 wolfie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:10pm

re: #124 Sifty

That's disgusting.
What kind of a repulsive, spoiled brat could write that?

150 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:11pm

Nobody even remembers the questionable "6 months in the attic" story about Grandpa/Uncle anymore.

Pass

Pass

Pass

151 Sifty  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:11pm

re: #131 Ojoe

From the site where they are begrudging JM his disability pension.

The collection of fecal bacteria that posted a comment like that should be getting a disability pension.

And then he needs to go ask for a refund at the test tube baby factory, because someone obviously shook up a vial somewhere in his process.

152 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:13pm

re: #119 WrathofG-d

This feller has a nice take on that "chickenhawk" b.s. It's kinda long, but plenty good (and funny [and NSFW])

153 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:16pm

re: #71 Dahveed


The question really is why do anti-Semites, 9/11 truthers, and other extremists have an attraction to Barack Obama?

Obama and his vacuous yet leg-tinglingly emotional speeches are the perfect golden idol for every kind of person, from Oprah Winfrey couch-potatoes and weekend Marxists to Jew-haters and conspiracy theorists, to project their own version of hope and change onto.

Whatever your bug-a-boo, Obama will "change" it.

154 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:16pm

Obama can't keep his advisors in check, his wife needs special handlers, he doesn't understand his friends...

The Making of a Great President.

155 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:37pm

re: #130 reine.de.tout

DECORUM!

LOL!

(just for the record, pre-Boomer Marine brat and I have this ongoing joke that he's a dog and I'm a cat--I guess you had to be there when we started this, but we think it's funny.)

156 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:41pm

If you want to know where Ben Smith is coming from, check out his blogroll. Almost exclusively leftist and far-leftist blogs.

157 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:58:48pm

re: #136 Inquisitive

Thanks. Sometimes I get fixated in a certain point of view, and miss something.

158 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:59:13pm

re: #111 mitthrawnurdo

Yeah, "Kimi" is onto us, better run!

I'll run... towards CHANGE! ! !

/moonbat off

159 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:59:31pm

re: #121 Bobblehead

LGF has the most dedicated group of hamsters in the blog biz. They'll run their little legs off for the boss.

Our tails too...

160 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:59:33pm

I really fail to understand how anyone can read that Americablog and not be nauseated by the sick atmosphere of hatred.

161 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:59:39pm

re: #153 Ringo the Gringo

Where is Oprah, BTW? Has she too been bussified?

That was NOT the Oprah I knew....

162 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 4:59:46pm

re: #142 LoFlyer

Foggy mind waste you.

163 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:00:06pm

re: #125 MandyManners

Twenty-one threads so far today! Go, Charles! Go!

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Rah! Rah!

*drive by cartwheels*

He might need to borrow your hamster, Mandy.

164 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:00:12pm

re: #142 LoFlyer

Clausewitz was big about the "fog of war" and that leadership must have a firm grasp of the reality of the situation. The libs, Obama and the MSM refuse to recognize radical Islam is the sworn enemy of western Democracy. A foggy mind is a terrible thing to waste!

Yo, warmonger you're going to be a thing of the past.

Peace Class K-12

How about creating a "Peace Class" as a recommend in K-12 academics. We could fit it in by interweaving it with American history, wouldn't those two go good together. The peace class would teach kids the importance of doing homework on time, running, reading, exercising, meditating, socializing, getting them involved in a community garden or school garden, and many more issues. If we can start by making a peace class then we would finally be assured that we'll not get a president who grew up watching cowboys n indians(TV), while eating chips n soda(COKE), and then we would be ready to create a Department of Peace, one that employes those most recommended by their teachers, tutors, counselors, and professors. Then when we do that we will make it so that whoever wants to become the president of N.America or any other such position will need to show prof of recommendation from their teachers, tutors, counselors, and professors. We can make this and many more together, starting in your community.

/so there!

165 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:00:46pm

re: #161 ArmyWife

I think she's unpredictable & could come out for McCain.

166 Spiny Norman  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:00:50pm
This ugly, low attack was posted by a blogger, not a commenter. See the difference?

Not if he can help it.

167 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:00:54pm

Charles,

I've discovered the problem over at the Obama bog. How dumb can you be?

168 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:01:09pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Great! Thanks!

169 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:01:15pm

re: #144 gymnast

Dry Pool Diving Team.

Good one!

170 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:01:51pm

re: #167 HelloDare

Did you find that in the open directories?

171 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:01:58pm

re: #138 AmeriDan

That for find out who Obama's webmaster is. I think it may explain the poor management, He used Ron Paul's website and rabid supporters as a model....
Let go, Joe Rospars

172 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:02:07pm

I'd suggest that Obama ought to have had enough volunteers working for him that he could have kept the comments moderated to scrub the extremists quickly before his entire community blog became overrun with them.

But that requires something that I'm not sure his supporters have: the ability to distinguish between hate speech and critical thinking. It's all a continuous line of relative discontent to them.

173 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:02:28pm

re: #129 Van Helsing

Why yes, Wrath. Yes I do remember that. We have troops in harm's way and they think the best choice for CIC has zero, zip, nada, null military exposure.

Probably hasn't even read a good book.

Obama's military experience was watching Captain Kangaroo when he was a kid.

174 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:02:28pm

re: #161 ArmyWife

Where is Oprah, BTW? Has she too been bussified?

That was NOT the Oprah I knew....

Her show today was about a man having a baby. A bearded man was getting a sonogram when I surfed by, commenting on how he could feel the infant kick. That is when I turned it off. These must truly be the Last Days.

175 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:02:39pm

re: #160 Charles

I really fail to understand how anyone can read that Americablog and not be nauseated by the sick atmosphere of hatred.

I just had a nice cheeseburger so I'll just have to take our word for it.

176 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:02:50pm

re: #160 Charles

That is because you don't understand the nuance and are sooooo post-Patriotic.

177 kansas  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:03:08pm

Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?

Let's see. He was held captive in a North Vietnamese prison for 6 years or so and had the holy shit beat out of him and his arms dislocated among other injuries and he is disabled from this?

Do I get a prize?

Dumb shits.

178 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:03:40pm

re: #155 goddessoftheclassroom

ah.

yes, some things you just had to be there for. . . .

Now let's see: fwenchy for decorum - way beyond my knowledge level - google translator says it is: bienséance?

179 Sifty  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:03:48pm

re: #153 Ringo the Gringo

I'm hoping that the next leg tingle that Chrissy Mathews feels is a rabid beaver headed for the stick in Chrissy's ass.

/as polite as this long haired country boy can be.
CD at his best.

180 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:03:48pm

re: #142 LoFlyer

Clausewitz was big about the "fog of war" and that leadership must have a firm grasp of the reality of the situation. The libs, Obama and the MSM refuse to recognize radical Islam is the sworn enemy of western Democracy. A foggy mind is a terrible thing to waste!

And a great leader often (1) puts the other guy into the fog, or (2) perseveres in spite of it.

181 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:04:01pm

re: #175 The Other Les

Your word.

Sorry.

182 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:04:17pm

re: #175 The Other Les

I just had a nice cheeseburger so I'll just have to take our word for it.

Another manure pit.

183 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:04:20pm

re: #174 rawmuse

Oh that. A woman who had a sex change operation and then like its some sort of miracle, is having a baby. At the end of the day she is all female on the inside and the only miracle to view is that some doctor somewhere facilitated this.

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:04:56pm

re: #155 goddessoftheclassroom

*chortle*

185 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:04:59pm

re: #173 Bob in Breckenridge

Obama's military experience was watching Captain Kangaroo when he was a kid.

Hey! He ate Cap'n Crunch cereal and Colonel Sanders chicken too!

186 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:05:31pm

re: #183 ArmyWife

Whatever it was, it made me recite Psalms 23.

187 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:05:54pm

re: #167 HelloDare

Charles,

I've discovered the problem over at the Obama bog. How dumb can you be?

That's the problem alright. You got it!

188 Sifty  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:06:31pm

re: #164 Killian Bundy
"getting them involved in a community garden or school garden,"


Where I'm from gardening isn't about peace, it's about eating. Who knew I was trendy and green?

189 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:06:34pm

re: #174 rawmuse

Her show today was about a man having a baby. A bearded man was getting a sonogram when I surfed by, commenting on how he could feel the infant kick. That is when I turned it off. These must truly be the Last Days.

It was a transsexual, NOT a man.

190 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:06:38pm

The blender I ordered arrived today, and I've been perfecting my frozen daiquiri technique. I think I need to practice again. BRB.

191 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:06:38pm
192 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:07:20pm

re: #177 kansas

Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?

Let's see. He was held captive in a North Vietnamese prison for 6 years or so and had the holy shit beat out of him and his arms dislocated among other injuries and he is disabled from this?

Do I get a prize?

Dumb shits.

In their tiny little minds I'm sure they think McCain should be paying the Vietnamese for having to provide him room and board for six years.

193 Racer X  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:07:30pm

All you need to do is look at both Resumes:

John McCain

Barack Obama

194 razorbacker  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:08:44pm

*sigh*

I suppose I can take some faint pride in the fact that, as yet, my two senators have merely demonstrated that they are stupid.

As opposed to being actually evil.

But dive into Rockefeller's report, in search of where exactly President Bush lied about what his intelligence agencies were telling him about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, and you may be surprised by what you find.

On Iraq's nuclear weapons program? The president's statements "were generally substantiated by intelligence community estimates."

On biological weapons, production capability and those infamous mobile laboratories? The president's statements "were substantiated by intelligence information."

On chemical weapons, then? "Substantiated by intelligence information."

On weapons of mass destruction overall (a separate section of the intelligence committee report)? "Generally substantiated by intelligence information." Delivery vehicles such as ballistic missiles? "Generally substantiated by available intelligence." Unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to deliver WMDs? "Generally substantiated by intelligence information."

As you read through the report, you begin to think maybe you've mistakenly picked up the minority dissent. But, no, this is the Rockefeller indictment. So, you think, the smoking gun must appear in the section on Bush's claims about Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to terrorism.

But statements regarding Iraq's support for terrorist groups other than al-Qaeda "were substantiated by intelligence information."

Democrats like the "Bush lied" meme because it gets Democrats who voted for the war off the hook with their antiwar constituencies. The problem is that it's more politically convenient than, you know, true. It's rather convenient for the intelligence services, too . . . .

Instapundit

195 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:09:00pm

re: #185 VegasRick

Hey! He ate Cap'n Crunch cereal and Colonel Sanders chicken too!

That settles it! That'll end all that chickenhawk talk

196 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:09:49pm

re: #164 Killian Bundy

/so there!

Yeah I read about that a couple of days go. What a joke. Kids today are more violent or prone to violence than any generation in recent history. Columbine was not an accident, it was intentionally planned by the kids who perpetrated the massacre. To many Terminator and Grand theft video games glorifying violence. Many communities have anti-bully ordinances that out law "bullies" at school. If a child is not exposed to "bullies" how will they ever recognize global thugs like Iran and North Korea for what they are? Our public education is a disgrace!

197 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:10:11pm

re: #170 ArmyWife

Listed as Technical Support.

198 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:10:22pm

re: #36 hermeneutics

Listen Obama supporters -- YOU are the problem.

You are today's rabid anti-Semites. You have exacerbated the Mideast conflict by refusing to acknowledge the evil of radical Islam thus encouraging a second holocaust.

You are responsible for the gas prices because you worship the environment, not God, and thus won't allow drilling and exploration.

You are hate. The crap on your site has been posted by Obama's supporters ... perhaps even you, gentle reader?

Its all about you, isn't it?
You are such foolish narcissists.

You need to grow up. Get a real job. Reproduce.
And, mostly, you need to give back to society instead of sucking it dry.

Uhh... if you want Obama's supporters to reproduce, you just might be part of the problem, too (;-)

199 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:10:24pm

re: #190 goddessoftheclassroom

The blender I ordered arrived today, and I've been perfecting my frozen daiquiri technique. I think I need to practice again. BRB.

I used to make pina coladas which were as rich as milk shakes. Snuck up on you too, for that very reason.

*thud*

200 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:10:27pm

re: #174 rawmuse

Her show today was about a man having a baby. A bearded man was getting a sonogram when I surfed by, commenting on how he could feel the infant kick. That is when I turned it off. These must truly be the Last Days.

Can you believe it? The wonders of medical science are wonderful. All the GOP wants to do is take us back to the dark ages with no stem cell research and back alley abortions. And Oprah has this...

...huh?

You mean that's a chick?

[insert pre-deleted joke here about the donor of 1/2 the DNA]

I guess in Obamaland a woman having a baby is...interesting?

201 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:10:44pm

I need to take a shower.

202 Render  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:11:01pm

re: #123 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wasn't just me.

I'm just a little Lizard with a great big chainsaw...collection.

TEAM
EFFORTS,
R

203 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:11:12pm

re: #154 LC LaWedgie

Obama can't keep his advisors in check, his wife needs special handlers, he doesn't understand his friends...

The Making of a Great President.

He's a little boy from the little leagues playing in the majors. He doesn't even see the fast balls that streak past him....
I don't particularly like McCain, but I don't see him being deceived/manipulated by Americas foes. At least McCain is not a communist (aka Liberation Theology) Islamophile like Great Leader Hussein.

204 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:11:26pm

re: #191 Ojoe

There already is a department of peace.

/not for long if Obama is elected

205 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:11:40pm

re: #193 Racer X

All you need to do is look at both Resumes:

John McCain

Barack Obama

Take note of the entry for religion for Obama. What religion is he?

206 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:11:49pm

re: #196 LoFlyer

Yeah I read about that a couple of days go. What a joke. Kids today are more violent or prone to violence than any generation in recent history. Columbine was not an accident, it was intentionally planned by the kids who perpetrated the massacre. To many Terminator and Grand theft video games glorifying violence. Many communities have anti-bully ordinances that out law "bullies" at school. If a child is not exposed to "bullies" how will they ever recognize global thugs like Iran and North Korea for what they are? Our public government education is a disgrace!

207 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:12:09pm

re: #201 The Other Les

I need to take a shower.

When you emerge, will you be reborn the waters? Saved by Obama?

208 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:12:29pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

I hope Charles saw it.

209 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:12:31pm

re: #199 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I used to make pina coladas which were as rich as milk shakes. Snuck up on you too, for that very reason.

*thud*

I'm back. If you hear a thud, it's me. And don't you DARE lick my face!

210 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:12:50pm

re: #204 Killian Bundy

Telegraphing weakness.

211 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:12:54pm

re: #195 Bob in Breckenridge

That settles it! That'll end all that chickenhawk talk

I've been told that he played with GI Joe as well. He was stratagizing Military attacks when he was in kindergarten.

212 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:13:13pm

re: #206 Bob in Breckenridge

Forgot to type "fixed".

213 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:13:24pm

re: #206 Bob in Breckenridge

Not all of them...

214 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:13:48pm

re: #207 brainwizard73

When you emerge, will you be reborn the waters? Saved by Obama?

I feel a hallelujah coming on.

215 aikidoka  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:14:15pm

Maybe the myobama moderator has Che Guevara as a friend on facebook, myspace etc.

216 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:14:31pm

re: #211 VegasRick

I've been told that he played with GI Joe as well. He was stratagizing Military attacks when he was in kindergarten.

Obama looks like he was more of a Barbie fan when he was a kid.

217 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:14:37pm

re: #129 Van Helsing

Why yes, Wrath. Yes I do remember that. We have troops in harm's way and they think the best choice for CIC has zero, zip, nada, null military exposure.

Probably hasn't even read a good book.

Obama recently lectured McCain on not sufficiently supporting the troops.

Obama is like the most annoying nerd in junior high school who won't stop shooting off his mouth. I'd like to see McCain give him an atomic wedgie.

218 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:15:12pm

re: #202 Render

TEAM
EFFORTS,
R

Very true, very true. There were several involved in that one. But this then-very-newbie remembers clearly that you seemed to be lead dog on the sled that evening.

/Just a comment

219 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:15:14pm

re: #189 Bob in Breckenridge

It was a transsexual, NOT a man.

I would not go as far as saying transsexual, obviously, she kept the equipment of the other team. So what we have here is a deluded chick who had a radical mastectomy, got some hormone shots to have a crappy bit of facial hair and now wants the world to think of her as a 'man'. Hmm, not so much.

220 EC Marm  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:15:17pm

re: #185 VegasRick

Hey! He ate Cap'n Crunch cereal and Colonel Sanders chicken too!


Careful. Any mention whatsoever of fried chicken and the liberal left begins to read all sort of racist inferences.
I thought it was funny, but I'm reconciled to re-education camp after an Oh'bama victory.

221 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:15:29pm

This Araheadvis or whoever is a pig.

He also uses other pigs for his smears - big lying freaking pig example - Ted Sampley.

Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.

222 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:15:41pm

re: #209 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm back. If you hear a thud, it's me. And don't you DARE lick my face!

*hides under couch*

223 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:15:46pm

re: #217 funkyfantom

Or some crack drill team could give him repeating wedgies.

224 Silhouette  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:16:16pm

If his webiste is truly unmoderated, how many anti-Obama diaries are there? Not ones pretending to be pro-Obama, but ones that are clearly and openly saying, "Don't vote for Obama?"

Because it these diaries were truly completely unmoderated, someone, somewhere, would have inserted a Pro-Hillary, Pro-McCain, or anti-Obama one by now.

225 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:16:18pm

re: #205 unrealizedviewpoint

Take note of the entry for religion for Obama. What religion is he?

Obama is ... whatever religion will get him the most votes.

226 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:16:35pm

re: #196 LoFlyer

Yeah I read about that a couple of days go. What a joke. Kids today are more violent or prone to violence than any generation in recent history. Columbine was not an accident, it was intentionally planned by the kids who perpetrated the massacre. To many Terminator and Grand theft video games glorifying violence. Many communities have anti-bully ordinances that out law "bullies" at school. If a child is not exposed to "bullies" how will they ever recognize global thugs like Iran and North Korea for what they are? Our public education is a disgrace!

And who would you like these "bullies" to bully and how far and how long do you think this bullying should go on. And what kind of person does this bully grow up to be since it is okay for him to bully others just so others will be able to recognize global thugs.

227 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:16:37pm

re: #196 LoFlyer

To many Terminator and Grand theft video games glorifying violence. Many communities have anti-bully ordinances that out law "bullies" at school. If a child is not exposed to "bullies" how will they ever recognize global thugs like Iran and North Korea for what they are?

If we outlaw bullying in the schools worldwide there will be no more global thugs like Iran and N.K. leaders.

/

228 Racer X  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:16:53pm

re: #205 unrealizedviewpoint

Take note of the entry for religion for Obama. What religion is he?

What I look for in a candidate is experience. What have you actually accomplished? How much money have you saved? How many jobs have you created? How many resolutions have you sponsored and passed?

Obama has not even finished his first term yet! He has been running for president since before he started in the senate!

If I was an employer looking to pick the most qualified candidate, who has proven they could DO the job applied for, it is not even a contest.

229 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:17:29pm

re: #203 David IV of Georgia

He doesn't even see the fast balls that streak past him....

The problem is, everyone else sees them, but the MSM umpires are calling balks.

230 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:17:49pm

re: #205 unrealizedviewpoint

Take note of the entry for religion for Obama. What religion is he?

Obama is a member of Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under the Law...regardless of what this started as, look at the site now.

Has anyone seen the 2008 report put out by "Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under the Law" on election/electoral issues? The sponsor list reads like a left-wing nut job resume.

231 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:17:59pm

re: #207 brainwizard73

When you emerge, will you be reborn the waters? Saved by Obama?

No. I'll probably take a nap soon.

232 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:18:26pm

re: #223 Ojoe

Or some crack drill team could give him repeating wedgies.

Well Obama has plenty of experience with crack. ( Actually, I think he always had enough middle-class cash to afford regular cocaine.)

233 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:18:53pm

re: #208 AmeriDan

It's been reported. His company was involved the an anti-Hillary ad a while back that got a few people fired. He was also involved in some myspace blunder for the Obama campaign too. The guy seems like a real boob.

234 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:19:21pm

re: #225 funkyfantom

Obama is ... whatever religion will get him the most votes.

We all know the entirety of his religious experience has been pandering, but really, what religion does he claim to be? Anyone know? Has he ever said?

235 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:19:41pm

re: #232 funkyfantom

I meant cheek crack

I'd better quit, here comes a moderator.

Ha

236 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:19:47pm

re: #216 Bob in Breckenridge

Obama looks like he was more of a Barbie fan when he was a kid.

I wasn't going to say anything but Obama does seem just a tad effiminate, not saying he is gay or anything related. He just doesn't strike me as a "manly man", unlike McCain, who has faced a world of danger and pain. No comparison can be made between the two.

237 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:20:06pm

re: #231 The Other Les

No. I'll probably take a nap soon.

You are probably going to hell, you know...or West Virginia

(calm down, that is "hell for Obama" since he got creamed there...as the descendant of some Mountaineers, this isn't a dig on WV...got it?)

238 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:20:16pm

re: #234 unrealizedviewpoint

Christian

239 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:20:34pm

re: #228 Racer X

What I look for in a candidate is experience. What have you actually accomplished? How much money have you saved? How many jobs have you created? How many resolutions have you sponsored and passed?

Obama has not even finished his first term yet! He has been running for president since before he started in the senate!

If I was an employer looking to pick the most qualified candidate, who has proven they could DO the job applied for, it is not even a contest.

Wait a second. Obama was a "community organizer"! If that doesn't qualify you to be President, what does? He probably organized at least several bottle and can return drives in the neighborhood.

240 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:20:57pm

re: #228 Racer X

What I look for in a candidate is experience. What have you actually accomplished? How much money have you saved? How many jobs have you created? How many resolutions have you sponsored and passed?

Obama has not even finished his first term yet! He has been running for president since before he started in the senate!

If I was an employer looking to pick the most qualified candidate, who has proven they could DO the job applied for, it is not even a contest.


Don't you dare give us that experience argument again!

/

241 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:20:57pm

The way I see it, lefties keep trying to dig up smears on Senator McCain, and they float the same old same old over and over. Meanwhile, guys who know him - for example men who were in the Hanoi Hilton with him - can't say enough good things about him.

It's different with Senator Obama. Senator O's smears involve self-inflicted wounds and his buddies doing the job.

242 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:21:10pm

re: #224 Silhouette

If his webiste is truly unmoderated, how many anti-Obama diaries are there? Not ones pretending to be pro-Obama, but ones that are clearly and openly saying, "Don't vote for Obama?"

Because it these diaries were truly completely unmoderated, someone, somewhere, would have inserted a Pro-Hillary, Pro-McCain, or anti-Obama one by now.

Don't worry, there's a new sheriff in town.

243 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:21:15pm

re: #205 unrealizedviewpoint

Take note of the entry for religion for Obama. What religion is he?

Butting in:

"United Church of Christ" is ironic when you consider that black liberation whatever-th'-hell theology says ... if God isn't with us in the fight against the white oppressors, then he is not our God, and must be fought.

244 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:21:22pm

This thread is fried IMHO

BBL

245 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:21:47pm

re: #226 Inquisitive

And who would you like these "bullies" to bully and how far and how long do you think this bullying should go on. And what kind of person does this bully grow up to be since it is okay for him to bully others just so others will be able to recognize global thugs.

I got pounded by may share of bullies and survived, kids need to learn what a bully is, be it a person or a nation. Most of the bullies I faced in high school are dead or in prison!

246 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:22:03pm

re: #220 EC Marm

Careful. Any mention whatsoever of fried chicken and the liberal left begins to read all sort of racist inferences.
I thought it was funny, but I'm reconciled to re-education camp after an Oh'bama victory.

I hope I go to one of the cool gulags. I'd hate it if I end up in one that just works everyone to death.

247 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:22:37pm

re: #220 EC Marm

Careful. Any mention whatsoever of fried chicken and the liberal left begins to read all sort of racist inferences.
I thought it was funny, but I'm reconciled to re-education camp after an Oh'bama victory.

Cap'n Crunch was a racist!

248 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:22:52pm

re: #236 LoFlyer

I wasn't going to say anything but Obama does seem just a tad effiminate, not saying he is gay or anything related. He just doesn't strike me as a "manly man", unlike McCain, who has faced a world of danger and pain. No comparison can be made between the two.

He strikes me a someone who always tried too hard to be like by the cool kids.

I wasn't willing to do the things the "cool" kids did, so I spent most of my high school weekends babysitting. Funny enough, when I went to my 5-year class reunion, everyone seemed to remember me as one of the "popular" kids because I was involved in many activities.

As I as tell my students, your soul is worth far more than a few hours of being "cool."

249 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:22:56pm

re: #237 brainwizard73

You are probably going to hell, you know...or West Virginia

(calm down, that is "hell for Obama" since he got creamed there...as the descendant of some Mountaineers, this isn't a dig on WV...got it?)

I've been to West Virginia. I bought a used tire there once.

250 else  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:23:03pm

How groups (and we) are over and under-represented in Congress
blah blah blah.....
...Racial:Whites: 74% of the pop, 84% of the House, 94% of the Senate (30% overrepresentation; should have 20 fewer senators; most overrepresented racial group)
Religious: Jews: 1.4% of the pop, 7% of the House (30 reps), 13% of the Senate (830% over; should have 11-12 fewer senators; most overrepresented religious affiliation)

Unaffiliated/atheists/agnostics: 15% of the pop, 1.4% in House (6 reps), 0 in Senate (should have 15 more senators; most underrepresented religious affiliation) (since when atheism is a religion?- ed)

Oh, man! They represent by color of your skin and your gender - not by what you stand for! ....No wonder that O.J. Simpson is STILL not guilty in their eyes...

251 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:23:04pm

re: #238 Ojoe

Christian

List of Christian denominations which does he belong.

252 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:23:21pm

re: #238 Ojoe

Didn't he say that the good Rev. Wright showed him the light and it was at that moment he became a Christian? Before that he was an non-believer?

Citation needed here, I am going on memory of why the Rev. was so important to Barry O - UNTIL... (cue ominous music)

253 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:23:23pm

OT
Does anybody know anything about myspace. I went there yesterday and BO has a myspace page and has thousands of "friends" I don't know much about myspace but I do know that you have to send a accept before anyone can be a friend on your space. There is a list of all his friends, would anyone be able to go through them and check out and see if they recognize any names?

254 EC Marm  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:24:10pm

re: #232 funkyfantom

Well Obama has plenty of experience with crack. ( Actually, I think he always had enough middle-class cash to afford regular cocaine.)


No, no, no. The CIA invented crack to enslave the black population (see Rev.Wright for details). Obama confesses to using "blow" (which I assume is cocaine powder) but only because of his racial identity issues.

Obama suggests in his books that he used marijuana and "blow" to ease the pain of his ongoing struggle to define his racial identity, and that association makes it all but unthinkable that even the most ruthless political operative would attempt to make an issue of long-ago substance abuse. [Link: abcnews.go.com...]


See, drug use as justifiable.

255 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:24:32pm

re: #240 unrealizedviewpoint

Sheesh. Some people are so un-enlightened. Sometimes it takes fresh eyes to see things. Fresh, untrained, unknowing eyes. And ears.

/do I need it?

256 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:24:41pm

re: #253 Inquisitive

OT
Does anybody know anything about myspace. I went there yesterday and BO has a myspace page and has thousands of "friends" I don't know much about myspace but I do know that you have to send a accept before anyone can be a friend on your space. There is a list of all his friends, would anyone be able to go through them and check out and see if they recognize any names?

People click to be added, and whoever is in charge of the site oks them.

257 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:24:42pm
Candidates Can't Control Their Web Sites

Charles, I sense a business opportunity. Also, might want to think about giving Stinky a raise. Hamsters can be replaced.

258 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:24:44pm

re: #216 Bob in Breckenridge

Obama looks like he was more of a Barbie fan when he was a kid.

Nah. Barbie is tougher than that. Maybe Sponge Bob?

259 mikeinmd  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:26:09pm

re: #249 The Other Les

I've been to West Virginia. I bought a used tire there once.

I've been to West Virginia, and will never go back with anything less than a V8 under the hood.

260 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:26:15pm

re: #258 Catttt

Nah. Barbie is tougher than that. Maybe Sponge Bob?

I happen to enjoy Sponge Bob!

261 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:26:38pm

re: #236 LoFlyer

I wasn't going to say anything but Obama does seem just a tad effiminate, not saying he is gay or anything related. He just doesn't strike me as a "manly man", unlike McCain, who has faced a world of danger and pain. No comparison can be made between the two.

What was it that Camille Paglia said -- give me a man with hair in his nostrils?

/my kind of "feminist"

262 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:26:40pm

re: #58 coquimbojoe

If a candidate can't control his/her site, they have no business setting one up. Ostensibly the sites are to showcase who the candidate is, and by extension, his/her constituency is. I bet if we put up a blog Republicans for Barack and talked about how he really is gonna cut taxes and hand out guns to all law abiding citizens, while going to Iraq to shoot at a few terrorists himself, it would be taken down immediately.

This is very true. As I posted yesterday, I did a webpage for a State Senator who is now running for Governor. After a couple of problems, I decided to go ahead and post it at politicalgateway.com. It was an incredibly easy and good looking site. However the Senator asked that I take down the site. It turned out that the main page, (not the Senators pages) had links to left and right "news" sites that promoted conspiracy theories. (Some Paulian stuff and troofer crap). He didn't want any connection to his campaign, even ones that tenuous. All in all a good move on his part. How much worse is it that the O can't seem to control direct posts on his own blogsite?

263 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:27:13pm

re: #260 OldLineTexan

I happen to enjoy Sponge Bob!

Uh oh. Sponge Bob sensitivity. /tip toes away

264 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:28:27pm

re: #248 goddessoftheclassroom


We have all made a few mistakes attempting coolness to our peers. As you said a few hours of coolness in exchange for poor decisions is not the answer for our youth. In Berkley its cool for the high school kids to join Code Pink in demonstrations against the Marine recruiters. My guess is that in 10 years they will regret or forgotten what they did....

265 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:29:24pm

re: #258 Catttt

Nah. Barbie is tougher than that. Maybe Sponge Bob?

Maye a Village People™ Ken doll.


(I made that up.)

266 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:29:36pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

It's been reported. His company was involved the an anti-Hillary ad a while back that got a few people fired. He was also involved in some myspace blunder for the Obama campaign too. The guy seems like a real boob.

I do know about him, but that linked post went up at around 11:30 eastern time last night. Just wanted to make sure it was part of the discussion. It seems to be the first rotation of the backpedaling.

/the ground zero of flat tire backpedaling

267 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:29:37pm

On the one hand the lefties smear that Senator McCain recently had an affair with a pretty young lobbyist. Then they turn around and say he's a senile old coot.

Hmmmmm.

268 offendi  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:29:52pm

This is the problem of an inexperienced national general election candidate, and why McCain in some ways got a break in facing Obama. Hillary's campaign and web site would be buttoned-down and well controlled.

No question Obama did a great job in organizing democratic state orgs to compete with Clinton ( but not that great as Clinton smoked him in significant primaries), but it wasn't a general election.

Obama is getting significantly smacked around 5 months out and his negatives are going to grow. Everything was already thrown at Clinton over the years and in her case people knew what they would be getting if they elected her, not so Obama.

So to summarize he needs every vote, especially the moonbats that are posting the off-the-wall stuff, because the average, and arguably sane, americans are going to be increasingly turned off.

269 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:29:54pm

re: #226 Inquisitive

And who would you like these "bullies" to bully and how far and how long do you think this bullying should go on. And what kind of person does this bully grow up to be since it is okay for him to bully others just so others will be able to recognize global thugs.

Even when I went to school we had people that thought about committing these acts. Do you know what stopped them. You never knew what students where armed. I'm not sure I believe the idea that games and such are causing this, you get on a very slippery liberal slope. I think it's far more likely that people considering these actions see that the press "celebrates" the memory of these incidents every year without fail.

270 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:30:06pm

I don't have cable at home , but I do glance at a few "news" shows while pedaling an exercise bike at the gym.

I can't tolerate more than a few minutes of the "expert panels" that they have on cnn and other similar crap channels, but in my few seconds of channel-surfing, it dawned on me that their SOLE immediate agenda is to dig up "credible" Hillary Clinton (ex?) supporters to pound home the message that they need to end the hurt feelings NOW and get behind BO Hussein.

271 kansas  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:30:39pm

re: #119 WrathofG-d

Didn't you know. The requirement for military experience is only operative when their candidate has it.

And to the person who said Lincoln was a great war President. I suppose if overseeing the slaughter of 600,000 of your countrymen makes you great, then great he was.

272 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:30:50pm

re: #156 Charles

If you want to know where Ben Smith is coming from, check out his blogroll. Almost exclusively leftist and far-leftist blogs.

re: #253 Inquisitive

OT
Does anybody know anything about myspace. I went there yesterday and BO has a myspace page and has thousands of "friends" I don't know much about myspace but I do know that you have to send a accept before anyone can be a friend on your space. There is a list of all his friends, would anyone be able to go through them and check out and see if they recognize any names?

It's no biggy.

His campaign or his staff probably runs it and they accept anyone who wants to be his friend because if they reject their friend request there's a probablity they won't vote for him. Greta Van Sustern at Fox has a Facebook account and pretty much accepts anyone to be her Facebook friend. I wouldn't say she knows them all.

273 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:30:51pm

re: #265 David IV of Georgia

Maye a Village People™ Ken doll.


(I made that up.)

He was always fond of the "Cowboy".

274 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:30:54pm

Why can't the posters at the Obama love site spell "a lot"?

275 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:31:14pm

re: #265 David IV of Georgia

Maye a Village People™ Ken doll.


(I made that up.)



Someone else thought of it first. :D

276 brickthruplateglasswindow  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:32:21pm

re: #267 Catttt

On the one hand the lefties smear that Senator McCain recently had an affair with a pretty young lobbyist. Then they turn around and say he's a senile old coot.

Hmmmmm.

Remember, the Left is the party of choice.

277 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:32:22pm

re: #269 Mars Needs Neocons

Even when I went to school we had people that thought about committing these acts. Do you know what stopped them. You never knew what students where armed. I'm not sure I believe the idea that games and such are causing this, you get on a very slippery liberal slope. I think it's far more likely that people considering these actions see that the press "celebrates" the memory of these incidents every year without fail.

If victims could just slug bullies without getting suspended, bullying would decrease dramatically. I told my boys years ago that they had better NEVER throw the first punch, but they had my permission to throw the last one--and I'd stand by them if they got in trouble for itl.

278 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:32:44pm

OT

Meanwhile, in other news, Wretchard from Belmont Club has a nice piece on mosque building in Australia. The facts are that the area housed 380 Muslim families, but for construction, in came a virtual torrent of money:

The Quranic Society ... had already purchased the land — deemed so valueless by the Camden Council that it did not even charge rates for it — for more than US $1.4 million. They paid US $240,000 in applications.

That would mean every family would've ponied up $4,315. But there was no need: the Quranic Society came in from outside.

The KSA is raking in money hand over fist these days. Their buying power is immense. We'll see these situations replicated all over the Anglosphere. Coming soon to a jihad theater near you.

279 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:33:22pm

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

If victims could just slug bullies without getting suspended, bullying would decrease dramatically. I told my boys years ago that they had better NEVER throw the first punch, but they had my permission to throw the last one--and I'd stand by them if they got in trouble for itl.

My fathers generation had a great solution. Whoever pulled this crap had to put on the gloves and fight it out in the gym. He said bullying went away within a couple years.

280 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:33:31pm

Something like 8 hours ago, I customized my McCain page. It said that it would take a while for the changes to show up.
This was maybe 8 hours ago (during the day). It still hasn't shown up - and this was something contrasting McCain and Obama, pointing out how negotiations only work from a position of strength, not weakness. Nothing nasty, no name-calling, just simple factual statements.

Yes, comments to McCain's blog are something else entirely. Although maybe McCain needs some monitor lizards, a few in there represent the posters, not McCain.

281 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:33:59pm

re: #267 Catttt

On the one hand the lefties smear that Senator McCain recently had an affair with a pretty young lobbyist. Then they turn around and say he's a senile old coot.

Hmmmmm.

Nothing new there. "Bush is an idiot", but he beats the Dems all the time. They have it both ways in a lot of debates.

282 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:34:07pm

re: #250 else

How groups (and we) are over and under-represented in Congress
blah blah blah.....
...Racial:Whites: 74% of the pop, 84% of the House, 94% of the Senate (30% overrepresentation; should have 20 fewer senators; most overrepresented racial group)
Religious: Jews: 1.4% of the pop, 7% of the House (30 reps), 13% of the Senate (830% over; should have 11-12 fewer senators; most overrepresented religious affiliation)

Unaffiliated/atheists/agnostics: 15% of the pop, 1.4% in House (6 reps), 0 in Senate (should have 15 more senators; most underrepresented religious affiliation) (since when atheism is a religion?- ed)

Oh, man! They represent by color of your skin and your gender - not by what you stand for! ....No wonder that O.J. Simpson is STILL not guilty in their eyes...


/Using their rationale, most of the Harlem Globetrotters should be white...

283 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:34:12pm

I'm performing an experiment. I posted a blog criticizing Obama at his site, to see how long it remains posted. Within minutes, three angry comments appeared.

284 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:34:26pm

re: #245 LoFlyer

I got pounded by may share of bullies and survived, kids need to learn what a bully is, be it a person or a nation. Most of the bullies I faced in high school are dead or in prison!

There is the physical bulling and there is the mental bulling same as any other physical or mental abuse. The physical abuse is sometimes a lot easier to get over than the mental and when both is in play for a long time, sometimes it can become way to much for a child especially when continually done in front of their peers and done at certain ages. And yes some children have a better self esteem than others and can handle better than others. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject. ;)

285 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:34:40pm

re: #267 Catttt

On the one hand the lefties smear that Senator McCain recently had an affair with a pretty young lobbyist. Then they turn around and say he's a senile old coot.

Hmmmmm.

McCain is lacking in Manliness. He'll never reach this level.

/is it sarc? You guess.

286 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:34:54pm

re: #283 Charles

You posted the "I love LGF" blog?

287 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:35:03pm

re: #255 ArmyWife

Sheesh. Some people are so un-enlightened. Sometimes it takes fresh eyes to see things. Fresh, untrained, unknowing eyes. And ears.


The problem with those untrained, unknowing eyes and ears is they mostly fall for the "free stuff rhetoric" ObamaBots speak to. Obama says he wants to end the war and those untrained, unknowing eyes and heads nod in approval, while having absolutely no understanding as to why we are in a war in the first place. Obama promises free healthcare and they again nod, failing to realize who pays and how the quality of that free healthcare will decline to that of the quality of product received at our government schools.

288 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:35:21pm

re: #286 godfrey

You posted the "I love LGF" blog?

No, not that one. I don't want to say which one it is yet.

289 Pshawalaw  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:35:28pm

I wonder how many of the real bloggers of those posts will step up and claim their work? I doubt they have the character to refute the defamation against the Right and claim their own work, wooosies!

290 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:35:43pm

re: #283 Charles

I'm performing an experiment. I posted a blog criticizing Obama at his site, to see how long it remains posted. Within minutes, three angry comments appeared.

Link?

291 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:36:01pm

re: #283 Charles

I'm performing an experiment. I posted a blog criticizing Obama at his site, to see how long it remains posted. Within minutes, three angry comments appeared.

linky?

292 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:36:52pm

If it isn't deleted soon, I'll post the link.

293 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:36:53pm

re: #283 Charles

I'm performing an experiment. I posted a blog criticizing Obama at his site, to see how long it remains posted. Within minutes, three angry comments appeared.

*grin*
Keep us posted someway on the outcome. I'm got to cut and run to supper in a few, but I'd love to know what happens.

294 wolfie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:37:21pm

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

If victims could just slug bullies without getting suspended, bullying would decrease dramatically. I told my boys years ago that they had better NEVER throw the first punch, but they had my permission to throw the last one--and I'd stand by them if they got in trouble for itl.

AMEN.

295 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:37:33pm

re: #287 unrealizedviewpoint

The problem with those untrained, unknowing eyes and ears is they mostly fall for the "free stuff rhetoric" ObamaBots speak to. Obama says he wants to end the war and those untrained, unknowing eyes and heads nod in approval, while having absolutely no understanding as to why we are in a war in the first place. Obama promises free healthcare and they again nod, failing to realize who pays and how the quality of that free healthcare will decline to that of the quality of product received at our government schools.

Public schools are NOT controlled primarily by the Federal government, The credit or blame rests on the local level. Health INSURANCE, however, distinct from health CARE, would be controlled (ha!) on the Federal level.

296 morning star  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:38:00pm

re: #242 AmeriDan

Don't worry, there's a new sheriff in town.

It's an old posting.

297 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:38:09pm

re: #274 ArmyWife

Why can't the posters at the Obama love site spell "a lot"?

Government school educations

298 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:38:14pm

re: #266 AmeriDan

Pssst.... it says
"Welcome to the new BarackObama.com!
By Joe Rospars - Feb 8th, 2007 at 11:25 pm EST."

But I like the "flat tire backpedaling" comment.

299 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:38:25pm

How did this thread get sidetracked into talking about wedgies and bullies again?

300 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:38:26pm

re: #292 Charles

If it isn't deleted soon, I'll post the link.

Then they'll delete it.

301 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:38:47pm

re: #293 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
Keep us posted someway on the outcome. I'm got to cut and run to supper in a few, but I'd love to know what happens.

Lemmings.

302 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:39:38pm

re: #272 Canadian Guy

It's no biggy.

His campaign or his staff probably runs it and they accept anyone who wants to be his friend because if they reject their friend request there's a probablity they won't vote for him. Greta Van Sustern at Fox has a Facebook account and pretty much accepts anyone to be her Facebook friend. I wouldn't say she knows them all.

Thanks, like I said I knew nothing about myspace except from hearing people talk about it until 2 days ago when my sister talked me into starting a page, my son is helping me set it up and he told me that I they had to request to be friends and me answer before they could be. So, again I thank you for the info about Obama myspace friends.

303 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:39:44pm

re: #299 Canadian Guy

How did this thread get sidetracked into talking about wedgies and bullies again?

Because Obama thinks everyone who criticizes his ideas is a bully, and we all think he deserves a wedgie.

304 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:39:45pm

re: #283 Charles

I'm performing an experiment. I posted a blog criticizing Obama at his site, to see how long it remains posted. Within minutes, three angry comments appeared.

Those are the three people in charge of the TAR, FEATHER, and RAIL anti-anti-Obama brigade

305 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:40:07pm

re: #271 kansas

Didn't you know. The requirement for military experience is only operative when their candidate has it.

And to the person who said Lincoln was a great war President. I suppose if overseeing the slaughter of 600,000 of your countrymen makes you great, then great he was.

Lincoln was a great president. His election touched off the civil war that killed the 600 grand soldiers on both sides, including some of my relatives who fought and died for both sides. The US army was thoroughly incompetent at the start of the civil war, this was not Lincolns fault, as 911 was not Bush's fault. Lincoln was the moral compass that made America what it is today, no excuses, just make the wrongs right. A toast to Lincoln and our fair nation!

306 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:40:16pm

re: #295 goddessoftheclassroom

Public schools are NOT controlled primarily by the Federal government, The credit or blame rests on the local level. Health INSURANCE, however, distinct from health CARE, would be controlled (ha!) on the Federal level.

After working in the public and private school sectors I have come to the conclusion the public schools are controlled primarily by the union. And we know how they encourage the vote to go.

307 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:40:37pm

re: #302 Inquisitive


Do Facebook. It's much better.

308 mikeinmd  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:41:19pm

re: #283 Charles

I'm performing an experiment. I posted a blog criticizing Obama at his site, to see how long it remains posted. Within minutes, three angry comments appeared.

Wow, they find the criticism of the Messiah quickly over there.
But took months to find anything else of interest. Beautiful.

309 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:41:34pm

I'm tired.

Bye.

310 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:41:48pm

re: #192 Bobblehead

In their tiny little minds I'm sure they think McCain should be paying the Vietnamese for having to provide him room and board for six years.

and because they are leftist assh*les w/ no jobs and mccain 'doesn't need the money', they think they should get his disability payments..

(lazy disgruntled commies who hate america want his disability payments. LOL)

311 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:41:58pm

re: #295 goddessoftheclassroom

Public schools are NOT controlled primarily by the Federal government, The credit or blame rests on the local level. Health INSURANCE, however, distinct from health CARE, would be controlled (ha!) on the Federal level.

Vouchers solve the problems in a matter of a few years. And the Federal government, specifically congress, and the Teachers Unions are standing in the way of vouchers.

312 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:41:59pm

re: #296 morning star

re: #298 wrenchwench

Excuse me while I go review the FAQ's for LGF concerning commenting while drinking. I just saw the 8th and ran with it.

/nevermind.

/hic

313 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:42:17pm

re: #306 Mars Needs Neocons

After working in the public and private school sectors I have come to the conclusion the public schools are controlled primarily by the union. And we know how they encourage the vote to go.

I agree that the teachers' union, the NEA, endorses the Democrats, but in smaller districts at least the school board calls the shots.

314 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:42:51pm

re: #292 Charles

If it isn't deleted soon, I'll post the link.

How do you search for different blogs there, what the H@#! am I missing?

315 littleO  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:43:07pm

Anyone ever right your senator with a complaint and get a reply lettr " thank you very much for your recent letter, blah, blah, blah, blah." ? Or, right to your local newspapers editorials page, or blog site, and either be ignored or have you post deleted, because your not left leaning. Well, these are reasons a Marxist may very well win the Presidency. Control of the media!
Don't forget the decades-long delusion.

316 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:43:21pm

re: #305 LoFlyer

Seconded. And to say that Lincoln "oversaw the slaughter" is either careless or mendacious -- and deserve either chiding or ridicule. Perhaps you'd like to explain, "kansas"?

317 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:43:42pm

re: #292 Charles

If it isn't deleted soon, I'll post the link.

Charles, I am not sure thats a good idea, want this lend credence to the moonbats claiming we planted the offending blogs and comments?

318 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:43:47pm

re: #276 brickthruplateglasswindow

Got the word this morning on CNN from Wasserman of Florida that one of the most important things in this election was her daughter's reproductive rights. I guess that the reciprocal only works for the male left.

/

319 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:44:11pm

re: #303 goddessoftheclassroom

Because Obama thinks everyone who criticizes his ideas is a bully, and we all think he deserves a wedgie.

It's not right to give wedgies to panty wearers like BO. I'm sure Michelle wears boxers.

320 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:44:15pm

re: #303 goddessoftheclassroom

Because Obama thinks everyone who criticizes his ideas is a bully, and we all think he deserves a wedgie.

Do you think the Secret Service would show up if we threatened him with a wedgie?

321 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:44:30pm

re: #311 unrealizedviewpoint

Vouchers solve the problems in a matter of a few years. And the Federal government, specifically congress, and the Teachers Unions are standing in the way of vouchers.

I just wish public schools could enforce discipline as they used to.

322 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:45:14pm

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

If victims could just slug bullies without getting suspended, bullying would decrease dramatically. I told my boys years ago that they had better NEVER throw the first punch, but they had my permission to throw the last one--and I'd stand by them if they got in trouble for itl.

I'll agree with you on this.

323 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:46:07pm

re: #320 unrealizedviewpoint

The Secret Service investigates all threats to Presidents and Presidential candidates. All one need do is report it.

324 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:46:16pm

re: #317 LoFlyer

Charles, I am not sure thats a good idea, want this lend credence to the moonbats claiming we planted the offending blogs and comments?

You've got a point, but the "offending blogs and comments" were all pro-Obama. Would that make a difference? Am I nitpicking?

325 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:46:48pm

re: #307 Canadian Guy

Do Facebook. It's much better.

? Facebook

326 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:46:56pm

re: #317 LoFlyer

Charles, I am not sure thats a good idea, want this lend credence to the moonbats claiming we planted the offending blogs and comments?

No, because there's nothing 'moby' about this at all. It's a straightforward, honest criticism of Obama.

327 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:47:17pm

re: #321 goddessoftheclassroom

Public school discipline? Contravenes Party Diktat #2342564: "Under no circumstances will children be disciplined. Discipline is doubleplus ungood, a relic of ideology derived from oppressive familial structures from the viviparous age."

328 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:47:22pm

re: #310 nyc redneck

You just nailed next week's installment of the smear campaign...have you recieved your $67.82 from the Obama campaign?

329 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:47:40pm

re: #313 goddessoftheclassroom

I agree that the teachers' union, the NEA, endorses the Democrats, but in smaller districts at least the school board calls the shots.

Every school board I've worked under has been Democrat controlled. Here our Superintendent is a right wing Republican, but the dems control the school board. Every year the school board tries to nail the community with another tax hike. The last couple years the people have decided they shouldn't be allowed to keep the crap up so they started closing schools.

Another Democrat ran for head of the school board, but she had a plan written up that proved they didn't have to raise taxes, or close schools, all they had to do was early retire all the administrative staff and non-teaching teachers that were two or less years from retirement. They would have been able to hire new teachers at a higher pay scale and save millions. She was defeated in favor of the status quo.

330 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:47:42pm

Now four angry comments.

331 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:47:45pm

re: #323 rawmuse

The Secret Service investigates all threats to Presidents and Presidential candidates. All one need do is report it.

Oh, dear God. that's all I need: the Men in Black on my door step because I facetiously wrote something about wishing to give Obama a wedgie.

Note to SS: I'M AN ENGLISH TEACHER. I USE HYPERBOLE!

332 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:47:52pm

I think there's a HUGE difference between them looking for and finding blogs that are critical of Obama VERSUS blogs critcal of Israel, Jews, cops or our military.
I feel sure they will find and delete your blog, Charles.
How long it will take them is another matter.

333 MacGregor  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:48:06pm

Found this anti-mybo article in the spinoffs:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/dele teme

ht: insanity police

334 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:48:07pm

And I'll bet they're hitting that 'report' button too.

335 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:48:08pm

re: #316 godfrey

Perhaps you'd like to explain, "kansas"?

It all started with a hit song 'Carry on my wayward son' and quickly followed by 'Dust in the wind'. After that they lost popularity and play small venues now, like the Zephyr in Salt Lake City....

336 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:49:11pm

re: #324 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You've got a point, but the "offending blogs and comments" were all pro-Obama. Would that make a difference? Am I nitpicking?

Just the fact that Charles planted a negative blog on the Obama site is going to go over like a lead balloon with the moonbats. But what is done is done. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
/Commodore Farragut

337 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:49:22pm

re: #321 goddessoftheclassroom

I just wish public schools could enforce discipline as they used to.

ME TOO!

338 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:49:55pm

re: #323 rawmuse

The Secret Service investigates all threats to Presidents and Presidential candidates. All one need do is report it.

Well then, since the ObamaBots are probably fixated on LGF today, and for the remainder of the campaign, don't anyone threaten anyone with wedgies. LOL

339 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:00pm

re: #326 Charles

It's a straightforward, honest criticism of Obama.

How dare you Swiftboat Obama!

/MSM off

340 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:11pm

re: #328 brainwizard73

You just nailed next week's installment of the smear campaign...have you recieved your $67.82 from the Obama campaign?

/they pay you in change, ya know.

341 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:23pm

re: #336 LoFlyer

Just the fact that Charles planted a negative blog on the Obama site is going to go over like a lead balloon with the moonbats. But what is done is done. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
/Commodore Farragut

I don't do anything out of worry for what moonbats will think. There's nothing planted there; it's an honest opinion and I would post the same thing here.

342 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:31pm

re: #319 ted

ted -

Don't go overboard. There are MEN and WOMEN - equal though different, in mathematical language, not congruent. Then there are Juveniles - who sometimes become "ADULT" Physically with arrested mental development. Know all about that, was one for more years than I care to admit.

-S-

343 Roentgen  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:47pm

re: #334 Charles

And I'll bet they're hitting that 'report' button too.

So, no one from the Obama camp can accept responsibility for their web site's content, because it is not being watched?

344 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:47pm

re: #331 goddessoftheclassroom

An English teacher of what? I thought you were an American, but I like the pommies too.

345 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:52pm

re: #331 goddessoftheclassroom

I think you are OK. However, I have been in the presence of some BDS types who have made direct threats against W, and I even have them on video doing it. I doubt if they are sincere.

BUT,

Those people should never piss me off. :)

346 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:50:58pm

re: #334 Charles

And I'll bet they're hitting that 'report' button too.

Did you have to register to post it?

347 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:51:11pm

I did not use my real name, however, because that would obviously skew the experiment.

348 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:51:16pm

My great-grandfather lived in a town that tarred and feathered someone.
I think some of the old institutions need to be re-instituted.

349 Gjergj Skënderbeu  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:51:16pm

re: #334 Charles

And I'll bet they're hitting that 'report' button too.


Link please?

350 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:51:30pm

re: #330 Charles

Now four angry comments.

Take shots to share, for when it goes down the memory hole.

351 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:51:49pm

re: #327 godfrey

Public school discipline? Contravenes Party Diktat #2342564: "Under no circumstances will children be disciplined. Discipline is doubleplus ungood, a relic of ideology derived from oppressive familial structures from the viviparous age."

Are you kidding me? Of course schoolchildren can be disciplined. For racism (unless directed against disapproved, bad groups), homophobia, patriotism, praying, all those sorts of horrors.

352 Roentgen  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:52:02pm

re: #347 Charles

I did not use my real name, however, because that would obviously skew the experiment.

I hoped you used "Roentgen."

353 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:52:13pm

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

If victims could just slug bullies without getting suspended, bullying would decrease dramatically. I told my boys years ago that they had better NEVER throw the first punch, but they had my permission to throw the last one--and I'd stand by them if they got in trouble for itl.

I think a vast majority of situations would follow common sense. You can't suspend all parties from school when one starts something. I think it would be a minority of schools that would do so, and primarily because they don't know how to discipline kids.

When I had an issue, I was offered the wrestling room with a coach and another teacher that told us to "settle it". Needless to say, nothing happened and it was never an issue after that.

354 wolfie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:52:13pm

re: #321 goddessoftheclassroom

I just wish public schools could enforce discipline as they used to.

One reason they can't is because of judicial activism and the absurd notion that free education is a "right" and students have an abundance of spurious "rights."
The rot there starts at the federal level.

355 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:53:00pm

re: #334 Charles

what did you post?

356 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:53:23pm

re: #336 LoFlyer

Farragut

Amen! Run out the guns! Marines to the crows nest!

357 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:53:27pm

re: #352 Roentgen

I hoped you used "Roentgen."

Yep. If he used "Stinky" they would think he was one of them.

358 kevinmumaw  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:53:34pm
His staff responded with the classic "he was tortured for his country." Yeah, we get it. The torture card.

"Why was he awarded the Medal of Honor?

"He jumped on a grenade to save members of his squad"

Yeah, we get it. The "jumped on a grenade card"

Can we question their patriotism now?

359 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:53:35pm

re: #336 LoFlyer

Just the fact that Charles planted a negative blog on the Obama site is going to go over like a lead balloon with the moonbats. But what is done is done. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
/Commodore Farragut

There's negative and then there's hateful. I bet Charles' was the former not the latter.

360 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:53:47pm

re: #344 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"pBMb" -

"Pommies?" - Love it, suspect all 'y'all have "Ozz-Tralian" Relatives, eh?

-S-

361 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:07pm

Is there a random internet name generator you used to create your new name, Charles?
One with a choice of leftward or rightward leaning slant?

362 godfrey  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:14pm

re: #351 Occasional Reader

*shocked*

*hitting the Vaporize OR button*

No! No! That is called education!

363 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:33pm

re: #348 David IV of Georgia

My great-grandfather lived in a town that tarred and feathered someone.
I think some of the old institutions need to be re-instituted.

?

364 Silhouette  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:34pm

re: #317 LoFlyer

Charles, I am not sure thats a good idea, want this lend credence to the moonbats claiming we planted the offending blogs and comments?

No, it would prove the opposite. That ones which they disagreed with (ones critical of Obama) were noticed immediately and dealt with.

ERGO, they agreed with the others that weren't dealt with.

365 kywrite  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:38pm

re: #253 Inquisitive

OT
Does anybody know anything about myspace. I went there yesterday and BO has a myspace page and has thousands of "friends" I don't know much about myspace but I do know that you have to send a accept before anyone can be a friend on your space. There is a list of all his friends, would anyone be able to go through them and check out and see if they recognize any names?

Interestingly, I just followed some threads to research that: this is the story of how the Myspace page came into being. Sheds some truly fascinating light on the man who would be ki -- er, President.

[Link: www.techpresident.com...]

You could go thru his names, but it would take you forever and I don't think there's a fast way to do it.

366 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:41pm

re: #334 Charles

And I'll bet they're hitting that 'report' button too.

They have "report" buttons there? All that anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and terrorist supporting crud stayed there for weeks and months, and no one reported it? What does that say about them?

367 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:42pm

re: #340 Bob in Breckenridge

/they pay you in change, ya know.

You hope.

368 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:54:56pm

'Evening, Lizards...Still in the dark, literally. Nasty weather moving in again. Being without power sucks canal water, but it's nothing compared to what others are dealing with. I'm praying for our Wisconsin Lizards...Please remember Mich-Again, too. Very bad storms near him tonight. Stay safe, Lizards! Hope to be back soon! God bless!

369 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:55:01pm

re: #344 pre-Boomer Marine brat

An English teacher of what? I thought you were an American, but I like the pommies too.

OK, you pedantic Pomeranian, I'm a teacher of English--happy now?

/I hope that's not too catty...

370 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:55:06pm

re: #315 littleO

Anyone ever right your senator with a complaint and get a reply lettr " thank you very much for your recent letter, blah, blah, blah, blah." ? Or, right to your local newspapers editorials page, or blog site, and either be ignored or have you post deleted, because your not left leaning. Well, these are reasons a Marxist may very well win the Presidency. Control of the media!
Don't forget the decades-long delusion.

My letter to the editor have always been ignored. But then again I'm always writing to try and motivate veterans to get Doonesbury kicked out of the paper so they may think I'm a crackpot.

My senators both reply with the same identical form letters no matter what the issue is.

371 Canadian Guy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:55:12pm

I was going to watch the baesball game, but this experiment has got me intrigued.

372 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:55:22pm

Hey goddessoftheclassroom,

How come the schools aren't filled with cameras like the rest of today's society. Wouldn't that solve some of the bullying problem?

373 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:55:39pm

re: #347 Charles

I did not use my real name, however, because that would obviously skew the experiment.

Did you use ChenZen?

374 else  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:55:42pm

Another interesting affiliation in thie blog of BO: someone sites the article Tibet for Palestine written by the israeli far left "intellectual", Uri Avneri, where he is whining that the world doesn't pay enough attention to Palestinians with the whole Tibetian issue . FYI, Uri Avneri was a human shield for Arafat in 2002 during the Israeli operation in Ramallah and there were many photos from this event him hugging Arafat (should find it). Even when the terrorist attacks occurred he always found the way to justify it. And guess what? He is a big supporter of Obama! ( just little quote:Of one thing I am certain: Obama's declarations at the AIPAC conference are very, very bad for peace. And what is bad for peace is bad for Israel, bad for the world and bad for the Palestinian people.)

375 Charles  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:56:02pm

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge

They have "report" buttons there? All that anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and terrorist supporting crud stayed there for weeks and months, and no one reported it? What does that say about them?

Yes, every blog post and every comment has a button to report objectionable content.

And that means that either: 1) no one reported any of those hateful posts, or 2) people did report them, and the admins didn't do anything.

376 snowcrash  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:56:08pm

Did you use aka Mr. Beaumont?

377 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:56:16pm

re: #368 Grammy Cracker

let us know how you're doing, when you can.

378 ted  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:56:22pm

re: #347 Charles

I did not use my real name, however, because that would obviously skew the experiment.

Dear Charles:

Please think this through.

Regards,

John Kerry

379 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:56:29pm

Oregon University Hosts Talk by Notorious Holocaust Denier, Amid Protest

The University of Oregon will play host Monday night to Holocaust denier David Irving, prompting protests from a local rights group.

The Pacifica Forum, a group that holds weekly meetings on the university’s campus in Euguene, Ore., has invited Irving to make an address about free speech. Irving's presentation is part of a nationwide tour which includes what he calls the "real history" of Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler. Irving is the third accused Holocaust denier who will have spoken to the group on campus.

/they must really like Holocaust deniers

380 Silhouette  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:56:31pm

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge

They have "report" buttons there? All that anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and terrorist supporting crud stayed there for weeks and months, and no one reported it? What does that say about them?

EXACTLY!

381 kywrite  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:57:10pm

re: #336 LoFlyer

Just the fact that Charles planted a negative blog on the Obama site is going to go over like a lead balloon with the moonbats. But what is done is done. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
/Commodore Farragut

Or maybe he just CLAIMED to plant a negative blog to see all the scurrying to find it. Hmmmmm.

/Dr. Evil. Charles Evil.

382 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:57:30pm

re: #372 unrealizedviewpoint

Hey goddessoftheclassroom,

How come the schools aren't filled with cameras like the rest of today's society. Wouldn't that solve some of the bullying problem?

Many schools are. The problem is that the victim is often punished for "fighting."

383 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:57:46pm

re: #349 Gjergj Skënderbeu

Link please?

He wants to see if it'll take them two months to get around to deleting it.

384 EC Marm  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:57:49pm

re: #331 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, dear God. that's all I need: the Men in Black on my door step because I facetiously wrote something about wishing to give Obama a wedgie.

Note to SS: I'M AN ENGLISH TEACHER. I USE HYPERBOLE!


I wouldn't worry about the Secret Service. They let the Obamessiah ride his bicycle around on a flat tire. That's a lot more dangerous than a wedgie.

385 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:57:54pm

re: #360 Dr. Shalit

"pBMb" -

"Pommies?" - Love it, suspect all 'y'all have "Ozz-Tralian" Relatives, eh?

-S-

No. I just know a few things about Down Under. I was wondering if anyone would catch it. (-:

386 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:57:57pm

Its not Hablamos espanol por Obama blog is it? To be super duper tricky?

387 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:58:00pm

re: #379 Killian Bundy

Oregon University Hosts Talk by Notorious Holocaust Denier, Amid Protest

/they must really like Holocaust deniers

The Pacifica Forum? They are Right-wing fascist nutbags, right?

388 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:58:01pm

re: #354 wolfie

One reason they can't is because of judicial activism and the absurd notion that free education is a "right" and students have an abundance of spurious "rights."
The rot there starts at the federal level.

Back to blaming it all on the Federal Government again, huh?

/

389 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:58:23pm

You lizards are missing the super-secret postive thing here for our man, Mr. McCain; I will clue you in.

The more moonbat left wing looney toons that slam McCain for his disability issues, the more time Barack Obama has to say (whether he means it or not):

"We honor John McCain's service to this nation".

Can I get that again? Hmmm, yeah.

390 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:58:28pm

re: #378 ted

Dear Charles:

Please think this through.

Regards,

John Kerry

(I served in Viet Nam, you know)

/Fixed.

391 kywrite  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:58:50pm

re: #386 ArmyWife

Its not Hablamos espanol por Obama blog is it? To be super duper tricky?

LOLOL! I actually considered doing that!

392 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:59:12pm

re: #369 goddessoftheclassroom

ARF!

393 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:59:19pm

re: #373 coquimbojoe

Did you use ChenZen?

Gordon is Big Number One.

394 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:59:29pm

re: #367 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You hope.

"pBMb"-

An OBAMA Administration might get us back to the Italian version of "CHANGE" - Pre-Euro. A Carmel or a Chocolate Kiss, Sorry about that PM Berlusconi, and it IS TRUE.

-S-

395 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 5:59:30pm

re: #362 godfrey

Children can also be disciplined for wearing a t-shirt with a picture of an evil gun on it. Unless it's Che holding an AK-47, in which case, that's "Show & Tell".

396 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:00:00pm

re: #393 David IV of Georgia

Gordon is Big Number One.

Really I thought he was a big number two......

397 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:00:47pm

re: #391 kywrite

Someone should do one in Hebrew to see what happens.

398 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:01:07pm

re: #382 goddessoftheclassroom

Many schools are. The problem is that the victim is often punished for "fighting."

This is a case where the parent (with a spine) need sue them. All of us, including children, have a right to defend ourselves. And the tape would be evidence of self-defense.

399 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:01:28pm

re: #396 coquimbojoe

Really I thought he was a big number two......

I think you caught my joke...

400 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:01:47pm

I hope you do a screen capture each time another poster comments, I wouldn't want to miss any of it.

401 LoFlyer  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:01:55pm

re: #341 Charles

I understand and support your program for free and open debate on the Obama website. I am just a little paranoid about how the Obama blog will be received by the moonbats or publicized by the MSM. Its your blog, and I accept your total authority for what happens here. It wouldn't hurt to discuss your future tactics before implementation. Independent review and discussion does have its advantages. You are still the Commander in Chief of LGF, and we back you 100 percent!

402 Shug  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:02:02pm

Scott McClellan is a scumbag

Let's hope somebody on the house judiciary committee rips him a new asshole

403 wolfie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:02:10pm

re: #382 goddessoftheclassroom

Many schools are. The problem is that the victim is often punished for "fighting."

Well, we wouldn't want to be judgmental, would we?
All sides deserve validation.

The problem w/ all this, of course, is that it ends up in an embrace of evil.
Witness the fair-hearing and equivalency re Palestinians and Israel.

404 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:02:11pm

re: #388 unrealizedviewpoint

Back to blaming it all on the Federal Government again, huh?

/

Dennis: You'rw foolin' yourself! We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class...
Woman: Oh, there you go bringing class into it again.
Dennis: Well, that's what it's all about!

405 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:02:17pm

re: #385 pre-Boomer Marine brat

No. I just know a few things about Down Under. I was wondering if anyone would catch it. (-:

"pBMb" -

A "Fist Uncle" was lost in the "ANZUS" Theatre. I identify with and am sensitive to anything "Oz!"

-S-

406 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:02:20pm

Only someone who has a rudimentary understanding of blogs and comments based systems could claim that the blog/website owner would be unable to control/police those comments.

Heck, there's any number of ways to do it.

Heuristics searches for key terms or words to flag posts as objectionable for further scrutiny. Active moderation where blog posts and comments have to get approved.

It's all a matter of what level of input and dedication to keeping on message the Obama campaign wants to achieve. Since they're essentially allowing a free-for-all, where not only can any one post, but anti-Semitic and racist posts can remain for days, weeks, and months on end until someone points them out.

And it's rather rich for someone at say ABC, BBC, WaPo, Politico or elsewhere to complain about LGF, when their own websites are rife with the vile craziness all while Charles and the monitor lizards are busy dealing with those posts that go over the line.

But, there's one other thing that intrigues me. Is there a disclaimer when you sign up and post to the Obama site? I haven't gone and set out to post there - have no interest, but a disclaimer might point to just how (un)involved the Obama campaign wishes to be.

And if the Obama campaign has no interest in policing its own website, then they will reap what they sow - whether it is justified or not, because that's the conditions that they set for themselves by not taking a more active stance (and also apparently par for the course given their other haphazard technical skills).

407 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:02:46pm

re: #384 EC Marm

I wouldn't worry about the Secret Service. They let the Obamessiah ride his bicycle around on a flat tire. That's a lot more dangerous than a wedgie.

Bicycle seats can cause wedgies.

408 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:01pm

re: #399 David IV of Georgia

I think you caught my joke...

I just embellished on the great groundwork that was done before me...

409 Pshawalaw  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:08pm

Charles, I refuse to visit that site myself, so thanks for keeping me abreast of their dopeyness. And, I was wondering what you think of the idea of a post there which educates them to the libel committed upon them by the other leftist sites? Just a straightforward, 'hey, bloggers, look they are saying you don't really support Obama! You should stand up and be counted, prove them wrong' It might begin another front of chaos among them.

410 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:09pm

re: #375 Charles

Well, that answers my own post from above (#406), given that they put on the mirage of caring about dealing with objectionable content, but doing nothing about it.

411 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:09pm

re: #263 Catttt

Uh oh. Sponge Bob sensitivity. /tip toes away

I really don't see how that counts as sensitivity. I happen to like Sponge Bob.

412 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:10pm

re: #326 Charles

No, because there's nothing 'moby' about this at all. It's a straightforward, honest criticism of Obama.

Plus the fact that "they're checking IP addresses" LOL, if they try to compare his post with all the "fake" entries it should launch them into heart failure.

413 wolfie  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:19pm

re: #388 unrealizedviewpoint

Back to blaming it all on the Federal Government again, huh?

/

By no means ALL. Just A LOT !

414 Shug  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:03:58pm

numbnuts on MSNBC just said Plamegate worse than Watergate since nobody died when Nixon lied.

OK, I'm turning off MSNBC.

their ratings are now at zero

415 galloping granny  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:04:27pm

Senator John McCain receives $58,000 a year in military pension because he served a full twenty years as an officer in the United States military and then retired. Just like any other United States military officer - or enlisted - who puts in twenty years and then retires. He gets the money because he EARNED the money. Call it his 401K.

/Asswipes

416 right_on_target  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:04:28pm

re: #298 wrenchwench

When and IF, big IF, Obama becomes Pres., Joe Rospars will be appointed Information Minister Press Secretary

417 AmeriDan  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:05:07pm

Bullies were around way before video cameras and will be around even longer.

PC lets the bully run free... on tape or not.

/2cents

418 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:05:09pm

re: #347 Charles

I did not use my real name, however, because that would obviously skew the experiment.

I'm just surprised they don't require a $200 donation to register.

419 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:05:15pm

re: #403 wolfie

Well, we wouldn't want to be judgmental, would we?
All sides deserve validation.

The problem w/ all this, of course, is that it ends up in an embrace of evil.
Witness the fair-hearing and equivalency re Palestinians and Israel.

I have told kids whom I've caught being unkind, "Do you have to work at being a jerk, or does it come naturally?" Usually after I've nailed them with my superior sarcasm, they're pretty humble and leave the victim alone, NO ONE messes with my students, and they know that.

420 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:05:16pm

re: #395 Occasional Reader

Children can also be disciplined for wearing a t-shirt with a picture of an evil gun on it. Unless it's Che holding an AK-47, in which case, that's "Show & Tell".

Refuse to stand during the Pledge of Alleigence, get suspended for a day, and the MN ACLU freaks out...

Bring a confederate flag to school, get suspended, miss graduation, and the MN ACLU yawns...

MN ACLU says the issue is "potential disruption to the learning environment" on whether speech is allowed. Fine. So to get the candy assed commies to stand during the Pledge the other kids have to kick the crap out of them? You know, so that there will be disruption?

Stupid. Conservatives/patriots have too much class.

421 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:06:25pm

"I read the book to help me understand what it is that makes white people so afraid. Their demons. The way ideas get twisted around. It helps me understand how people learn to hate."

Obama, Dreams from My Father.

422 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:06:26pm

re: #401 LoFlyer

I understand and support your program for free and open debate on the Obama website. I am just a little paranoid about how the Obama blog will be received by the moonbats or publicized by the MSM. Its your blog, and I accept your total authority for what happens here. It wouldn't hurt to discuss your future tactics before implementation. Independent review and discussion does have its advantages. You are still the Commander in Chief of LGF, and we back you 100 percent!

One can only hope the MSM would attempt to smear LittleGreenFootballs more then they do. One need hope they spell and pronounce it correctly though.

423 bill-tb  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:06:47pm

Comrade Obama and his merry men are taking hits for the anti-semantic blog posts and they know it. Looks like they are putting up a smokescreen to try and cover their Jew haters posting there. Comments are one thing, anti-semantic blog posts are an entirely different level of disgrace -- I assume the candidate who supplies the web site and approves the bloggers must condone the posts.

Has anyone seen anything posted by the Rev Wright, yet?

424 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:06:49pm

re: #353 brainwizard73

I think a vast majority of situations would follow common sense. You can't suspend all parties from school when one starts something. I think it would be a minority of schools that would do so, and primarily because they don't know how to discipline kids.

When I had an issue, I was offered the wrestling room with a coach and another teacher that told us to "settle it". Needless to say, nothing happened and it was never an issue after that.

In the enlightened 80's the victim usually got suspended because they "caused" it. IE, being a freak automatically meant they were guilty.

425 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:06:52pm

re: #414 Shug

numbnuts on MSNBC just said Plamegate worse than Watergate since nobody died when Nixon lied.

OK, I'm turning off MSNBC.

their ratings are now at zero

Why would you torture yourself? Hey, Rockefeller's report didn't say that Bush lied, either, but I bet Olbermann will say that it does...who wants to go for a $10?

426 Catttt  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:06:56pm

I have to say - mybarackobama makes myspace look like rocket science.

427 The Shadow Do  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:07:28pm

re: #271 kansas

And to the person who said Lincoln was a great war President. I suppose if overseeing the slaughter of 600,000 of your countrymen makes you great, then great he was.


I was just reading and trying to catch up when I came across this gem.

Dear Kansas,
Lincoln no more "oversaw" the slaughter of 600,000 countrymen than George Bush oversaw the slaughter of 4,000 countrymen in Iraq.

What the hell is wrong with you. Was you're great great grand pappy a Border Ruffian or some such? What a terrible post. Do you make a habit of this kind of thing? I noticed a couple of other posters questioned your view but you have not been back.

428 JustMyView  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:07:55pm

re: #375 Charles

Yes, every blog post and every comment has a button to report objectionable content.

And that means that either: 1) no one reported any of those hateful posts, or 2) people did report them, and the admins didn't do anything.

Or, it could mean that no one other than the person who posted the original content ever saw them. Most of the posts identified in the past few days had none or a very few comments associated with them. Doesn't seem like they were attracting a big readership.

Quick question: Was any sort of approval or authorization required for you to create your blog?

429 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:08:26pm

re: #365 kywrite

Interestingly, I just followed some threads to research that: this is the story of how the Myspace page came into being. Sheds some truly fascinating light on the man who would be ki -- er, President.

[Link: www.techpresident.com...]

You could go thru his names, but it would take you forever and I don't think there's a fast way to do it.

Thanks and that is some good reading---everyone should read through, once agains shows something about how Obamas campaign is being monitored/not monitored.

430 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 9, 2008 6:08:31pm

Hey Cindy Sheehan just sent me an email!
(no, I don't know how the hell I got on her list...)

Courageous Congressman, Dennis Kucinich (D-Oh) is on CSPAN right now, 5:30pm PST, introducing 35 articles of impeachment against sham-President, George W. Bush.

As accountability is a major plank in Cindy for Congress' platform, we stand in unity with Dennis and profoundly support this action