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 RetweetObama: We're Not, Uh, Vetting The, Uh, Vetters

Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:16:50 am PDT

This is so pathetic it’s almost unbelievable.

Youtube Video

UPDATE at 6/10/08 11:19:13 am:

Mickey Kaus: Obama, Embarrassed.

Johnson was an atrocious, tin-eared choice on many other grounds. He’s a symbol of old Democratic elites—the Mondale Restoration!—and of Beltway business as usual. He’s gotten obscenely rich off of public service while pursuing a failed liberal antipoverty theory (community develpment) and taking credit for spreading around other peoples money. He failed to catch Geraldine Ferraro’s problems before they blew up on Mondale. He helped lead Fannie Mae into a multi-billion dollar debacle (even though he let his successor catch most of the blame). He said Mozilo’s firm had “done a brilliant job of insulating itself for the down cycle” shortly before Mozilo’s firm was clobbered in the down cycle, eventually selling itself to Bank of America for about a tenth of it’s former value, according to the Sun.

Why would Obama, in his first big personnel decision, choose a paleoliberal greedhead with a track record of failure? You tell me! He’s described Johnson as “a friend.” It looks as if he was at best highly susceptible to amicable overtures from someone he about whom he should have retained some critical perspective.

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1 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:17:18am

This does not bode well for the future if he is elected...

2 Athos  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:18:00am

Take this guy off script and he's incoherent.

3 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:18:31am

Well, at least he's still clean. As far as we know.

4 see bs  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:18:32am

uh, Hope...uh..Change!

5 vxbush  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:18:44am

If he doesn't have a script delivered to him or at least a set of talking points, he can't think. Period.

6 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:18:55am

so pathetic it’s absolutely believable

7 gibsonz  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:18:57am

He is a stumbling bumbling boob without the teleprompter.

8 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:19:39am

"These aren't folks who are working for me"

Your own Veep search committee isn't working for you?! What, it's like a rogue Veep search committee?

9 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:19:43am

CIA Cheif? No need to look into his past. Sec of state Marc Rich would be good. Supreme court justice - they worked for ACORN as a lawyer - good enough...

10 Gjergj Skënderbeu  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:19:49am

Stop, uh, asking, uh, difficult questions already.

11 saberry0530  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:19:57am

Its not for me to say any off the record remarks, or him without a scripted, dicatated speech.

12 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:20:42am

The mendacity of the statement 'they do not work for me' is stunning. Are they also helping John McCain and Bob Barr?

13 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:20:42am

Get me a new marionette Damnit ! This one is faulty

--Soros

14 mbruce  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:21:07am

How is he even going to have any sort of debate? He's a stuttering fool with no rudder at all? I am waiting to see how the MSM plans to manage those Townhall meetings to try and make him look even capable of running a pretzel cart.

15 livefreeor die  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:21:58am

Hillary must be watching this at home and downing Tequila by the quart.

16 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:22:13am

Hillary's plan is still in operation.
She could still get the nod.

17 Athos  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:22:30am

Now we know why Obama wasn't thrilled about McCain's Townhall meeting offer...

18 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:22:33am

re: #8 Occasional Reader

Who's paying the bills for their expenses? Might be an interesting avenue of investigation if it isn't the Obama campaign.

And it's hilarious watching Obama go Clintonesque in his defense of Johnson. /these aren't the relationships you're looking for.

19 allah this  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:02am

Love the tie-less dinnerjacket look, Barry. "Genocide chic"

20 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:19am

He's toast at the town hall meetings.

21 ScottG  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:26am

Pathetic indeed. Of course the video cut off after the rambler buick, er barack stopped, but couldn't one - just one - journalist tell him we think he's lying? After all he was on Fox, they're supposed to be our guys!

22 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:33am

re: #16 mean Gene

Hillary's plan is still in operation.
She could still get the nod.


After she comes up with the wifey tape and his birth certificate it is hers to lose

23 Sabnen  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:35am

But 'uuhs' sound so much better than 'ahhs'.

24 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:47am

There were no preconditions for vetting.

25 MrC_5150  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:23:51am

New poster:

Change

26 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:02am

re: #16 mean Gene

Hillary's plan is still in operation.
She could still get the nod.

She's secretly hoping for the RFK scenario.

27 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:04am
28 FQ Kafir  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:16am

"He's not the vetter that I knew"

29 kahall  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:23am

Could you please repeat the question? Can you use it in a sentence? Uhhh...

30 saberry0530  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:24am

PLEASE BARRY! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just keep on talking without a script. My 5 year old grandaughter can put forth a more cohesive and thought provoking argument than you.

31 DamnCat  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:31am

"He’s described Johnson as “a friend.” "

I'm waiting for Obama to say "That's not the Johnson I know."

Takes one to know one.

32 ScottG  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:35am

re: #14 mbruce

How is he even going to have any sort of debate? He's a stuttering fool with no rudder at all? I am waiting to see how the MSM plans to manage those Townhall meetings to try and make him look even capable of running a pretzel cart.

Easy, the questions will have to be submitted in advance...

33 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:46am

Obama Ipecac

34 eff plus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:24:53am

Is that a flag lapel pin he’s suddenly rockin there in the video? His strategy seems to be breaking those out more and more after each new blunder.

35 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:02am

re: #27 Iron Fist

,

You sure he's not snorting his breakfast again? Maybe that's why he's no longer articulate.

Nah, he'd be a LOT more animated if that were the case.

36 runrabbitrun  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:05am

I've read even Democrats who admit that Obama does not have much stamina. Good grief, what will he sound like come October?

And how will the MSM cover for him then?

37 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:15am

Not that it is surprising at this point... to bad his supporters will still blindly follow this guy... the only plus is mebbe replaying stuff like this will convince the undecided that he's a pathetic choice for POTUS...

POTUS...

POTUS...

Personally I would not hire this guy to manage any small business much less POTUS from what I've seen of his campaign...

38 livefreeor die  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:25am

re: #27 Iron Fist

,

You sure he's not snorting his breakfast again? Maybe that's why he's no longer articulate.

Naaah, now that they've lynched Hillary, the media is paying attention to him. They're trying to do it positively but he's making it so damn hard!

39 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:25am

How would Jesse Jackson phrase it

uhhh Amerrka needs vetters not bomb setters.
Better Vetting not land mine setting
Hope and Change not a bombing range

40 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:32am

Don't be so confident he'll stumble to and through the debates. Take a look at GWB after
"it's alotta hard work ya know."
I thought he was done.

41 Power Armored Lizardoid  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:32am

And all I have heard from the Libs I am unfortunate enough to run into or see on television over the last few years is how laughably bad a speaker GW is. And THIS is the best candidate they can come up with
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I sincerely hope McCain just CRUSHES this yahoo in the debates...

42 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:36am

This not the Jim Johnson I knew.

43 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:36am

weel ya know obama is alot like icarus don't cha know...but instead of his wings melting as he got too close to the sun, his brain fried...he does talk like a fried out ex druggie I used to know...couldn't get a coherent sentence out of him even if you had a gun to his head.

44 doppelganglander  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:25:59am

So this is the articulate guy the Dems nominate to replace that "stumbling boob" W? At least when you unravel Bush's syntax and mispronunciations, he actually makes sense.

45 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:03am

Hope! Change! "Uh..."!

46 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:12am

a,

47 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:27am

a,

48 Kenneth  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:32am
49 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:45am

Obama / Obama 08 !

50 Gjergj Skënderbeu  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:53am

re: #19 allah this

Love the tie-less dinnerjacket look, Barry. "Genocide chic"


Oh, Barry's just trying to impress Ahmadinajed by dressing like him before he appeases him.

51 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:26:58am

Off script he says uh and um just as much as George W. Bush.

52 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:27:14am

Both CNN and MSNBC started to run the Obama press conference this morning but after two minutes of Obama hemming and hawing and um this, uh that, they both cut away. Without a script in front of him he's worthless.

53 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:27:21am

Well, the dems national/international machine now is muscling in on his show.

How can someone with 3 years' experience in the Senate be expected to know who all the bad actors are in the larger Dem party?

He hardly knew the bad actors in Cook County's machine operation.

Now there's millions of dem apparatchiks looking to Obama for handouts without preconditions.

54 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:27:43am

hopeonics

55 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:00am

I ask one Obama supporter to belly up to the bar and answer one question:

Exactly just how you figure this man is such a great communicator?

If it's not written out, he makes W sound like an oratory genius...

56 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:08am

But he HAS to do Townhall Meetings with McCain!
John McCain is willing to carpool to them with him!

57 Tumulus11  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:09am

. When Barry Hussein just wants to be left alone to finish his waffle, he uses ten-dollar words like 'tangential' and 'discrete'.

58 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:17am

I wouldn't hire him to run a doughnut shop, we would end up with square doughnuts! POS, dumba$$

59 Kenneth  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:29am

re: #52 EC Marm

Both CNN and MSNBC started to run the Obama press conference this morning but after two minutes of Obama hemming and hawing and um this, uh that, they both cut away. Without a script in front of him he's worthless.

I believe it's called "Soaring rhetoric". I heard that somewhere.

60 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:32am
61 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:36am

re: #52 EC Marm

Both CNN and MSNBC started to run the Obama press conference this morning but after two minutes of Obama hemming and hawing and um this, uh that, they both cut away. Without a script in front of him he's worthless.


Fixed

62 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:43am

Since Obama's VP search committee doesn't actually have to work for him, presumably we all can form one, too.

My nominee.

63 Spiny Norman  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:28:59am

Would you buy a used car from this man?

64 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:03am

a,

65 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:08am

"Mr. Johnson has been a Vice Chairman of Perseus, L.L.C., a merchant banking and private equity firm, since April 2001. " - Now where have I seen that name before? Could it have been in connection with a recent book. Damn, losing my memory these days is a soros (sic) point with me. Looks like 'ol Georgie is going to be the person to nominate the VP.

66 HugoChavez  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:13am

Mwahahahahahaha!

Our plan is working perfectly!

On January 21, 2009, get ready Zionist, imperialist, neo-con, running chain dogs, we're going to start the purges!

67 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:14am
Why would Obama, in his first big personnel decision, choose a paleoliberal greedhead with a track record of failure?

This is why...

Johnson was an atrocious, tin-eared choice on many other grounds. He’s a symbol of old Democratic elites—the Mondale Restoration!—and of Beltway business as usual. He’s gotten obscenely rich off of public service while pursuing a failed liberal antipoverty theory (community develpment) and taking credit for spreading around other peoples money

Just like BHO - kindred souls.

68 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:21am
69 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:37am

re: #13 Shug

Get me a new marionette Damnit ! This one is faulty

--Soros


ROFLMAO! That's a rotating title if ever I saw one...

70 chinesearithmetic  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:39am

Why would Obama, in his first big personnel decision, choose a paleoliberal greedhead with a track record of failure?

And that's just the maitre'd. Wait till you see what Chef Soros has cooking.

71 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:45am

re: #59 Kenneth

I believe it's called "Soaring rhetoric". I heard that somewhere.


In my case, it was almost "snoring rhetoric." I was starting to nod at 10:45 in the morning.

72 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:52am

His vetting committee is an unpaid assignment? What the hell is he doing with that $100 million?

73 ScottG  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:29:55am

re: #54 Shug

Pardon me stewardess, but I speak jive...

74 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:30:09am

Is Obama really so clueless as to reward anyone with a "name" and the appropriate ideology who sucks up to him?

This could explain the never-ending string of bad associates.

75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:30:30am

um

76 mattm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:30:41am

Ow. My Brain.

77 Power Armored Lizardoid  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:30:45am

uh

78 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:30:51am
79 uncle_monkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:31:06am

I think his strings got tangled up there.

80 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:31:07am

Does he provide his unpaid volunteer vetters with healthcare benefits?

81 Dan Tanna  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:31:12am

Well...I...Ummm...

Hypocrisy personified.

82 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:31:26am

This ASSHOLE is FUCKED ! ! ! No?

83 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:31:49am

Uh...um...

84 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:31:59am
85 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:01am

er

86 crash72  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:11am

re: #29 kahall

Could you please repeat the question? Can you use it in a sentence? Uhhh...

Dr. Pepper through my nose funny! Thank you!

87 RTLM  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:17am
88 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:24am
89 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:31am

Who does Johnson work for then? Soros? The Mob?

90 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:34am

re: #72 Neo Con since 9-11

If I were him, I'd be spending it on the ground game, but who knows where the money is going. He's spent more than any other candidate in history to win a nomination of the party, and he's not even to the convention.

91 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:35am

re: #80 Shug

Does he provide his unpaid volunteer vetters with healthcare benefits?

Yeah
The ride in the bus verses under the bus is much more healthy

92 saberry0530  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:40am

re: #66 HugoChavez

Mwahahahahahaha!

Our plan is working perfectly!

On January 21, 2009, get ready Zionist, imperialist, neo-con, running chain dogs, we're going to start the purges!

What? All you lefty leaning commies gonna stick your fingers down each others throats and cause each other to purge... That is a sign of a mental disease and defect and needs to be treated quickly.

93 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:41am

re: #89 faraway

Who does Johnson work for then? Soros? The Mob?

Oprah

94 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:46am

When Bush hems and haws, they call him stupid.

95 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:32:54am

re: #15 livefreeor die

Hillary must be watching this at home and downing Tequila by the quart.

She's probably chilling the Dom! There is light at the end of the tunnel for her and it's not a freight train. It was a good decision for her to "suspend" her campaign. She's got to be thinking that it ain't over.

96 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:33:14am

re: #29 kahall

Could you please repeat the question? Can you use it in a sentence? Uhhh...

Beagle
Beagle
Beagle


B E A G E L
Beagle

ARRRGH !

97 Cognito  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:33:43am

He's acting as though it's Jim Johnson's volunteer job to pin up handbills for the campaign, instead of steering him toward a viable ticketmate.

I don't care so much that he said 'uh' during the talk. He's still articulate, slicker than slickety slick slicky, and frankly no one on the right should want to make this campaign about who's a smoother talker.

The real issue here is a revelatory peek at Obama's decision making. And his willingness to overlook gross moral deficiency in order to get what he wants.

98 alteredbeat  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:33:49am

mumblemouth liar

99 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:33:51am
100 HugoChavez  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:33:51am

re: #93 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

SSSHHH!

Keep it down!

101 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:33:58am

Obama is driving the bus.

102 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:34:21am

I can not wait for a new South Park season
LOL
Hahahaha

103 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:34:40am

Its really immature to make fun of the way Buhrak Obuhmuh speaks.
/

104 Catttt  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:34:55am

Soon, we will again hear that familiar refrain...

Dum. Dum. Dum.
Another one under the bus.
Dum. Dum. Dum.
Another one under the bus.

Um...

105 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:35:15am

When did he stop wearing a tie?

It is part of the anti-Western thing that keeps Ahmadinejadm Chavez, etc. from wearing ties?

106 USBeast  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:35:17am

"...exercise my judgement..."?!

His judgement doesn't need exercise. It needs rehab.

107 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:35:19am
108 HugoChavez  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:35:25am

re: #92 saberry0530

I get plenty to eat and I keep it down very well.

109 Checker77  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:35:50am

He sounds like a drunken school administrator.

110 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:35:56am

re: #78 Iron Fist

,

Count me in. Being on the Democratic Vice-Presidential Search Comittee sounds really cool on a Resume. I want to speak to the base, though. I nominate Kos.

Bah. My nominee is much more soothing to listen to.

111 saberry0530  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:11am

re: #108 HugoChavez

obviously

112 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:26am

re: #16 mean Gene

Hillary's plan is still in operation.
She could still get the nod.

Hillary, you magnificent...uh, never mind.

113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:36am

Fat Albert for Veep - hell, if Mushmouth can be the nominee for President,...

114 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:38am

Not vetting the people who are going to choose his VP for him?

I think the bigger problem is why does he need a committee to make the choice for him... can't the puppeteer do that for him or did the strings get tangled?

115 schultzw  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:44am

the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...

...and Barack's throwing everything and the kitchen sink under it.

116 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:48am

I'd be pretty impressed if Obama's bus can run over his own Johnson

/sorry

117 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:36:57am

re: #103 WrathofG-d

Its really immature to make fun of the way Buhrak Obuhmuh speaks.
/

Not if you don't close your eyes and then say he sounds black, it isn't.

118 kahall  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:00am

re: #110 Occasional Reader

Bah. My nominee is much more soothing to listen to.

Haha, too funny. I am going to use that one.

119 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:09am

re: #71 EC Marm

Gah! Downdinged you by accident. Meant to upding. A thousand pardons.

120 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:20am

Stuttering, ums, and uhs are the most acceptable thing about him.

I don't care if he is inarticulate. It is that he hates everything I love and will seek to destroy it.

121 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:29am

I think we had this all wrong.

Obama's not driving a bus.

People are falling into the Obama Triangle™ , never to return.

122 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:31am

I wonder if Johnson makes a good omelet.

123 runrabbitrun  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:40am

Remember faux-tography?

I'm guessing that this fall we're going to be seeing (hearing?) a new Soros-funded, Dem technological achievement in voice-overs. Faux-eloquence.

124 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:37:46am

re: #119 Occasional Reader


fixed

125 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:38:12am

re: #122 MandyManners

I wonder if Johnson makes a good omeletwaffle.

I plead sun-stroke.

*sigh*

126 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:38:18am

re: #103 WrathofG-d

Its really immature to make fun of the way Buhrak Obuhmuh speaks.
/

Unfortunately it's almost a direct insight into his thought processes which, so far, are less than stellar in impressing me...

127 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:38:28am

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

He's toast at the town hall meetings.

''And next on the agenda - we'll have the Quilting Bee here next Friday at 7 PM followed by a meeting of the Floral Club."

128 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:39:24am

re: #125 MandyManners

This is your brain on waffles...

129 Wm T Sherman  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:39:25am

"This is not the Johnson you're looking for."

There was that strange video on the airplane, though.

130 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:39:26am

At least he's not promising to have the most ethical administration in history.

No preconditions!

131 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:39:34am

Who Vets the Vetters?

132 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:39:40am
133 brainwizard73  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:39:59am

Sorry, did I miss the handout that declared the 2008 Presidential Election "amateur hour"?

If so, can I still put my hat in?

134 Desert Dog  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:40:08am

re: #94 Ben Hur

When Bush hems and haws, they call him stupid.

If Bush said he had visited all 57 states, they (the MSM) would have crucified him!

135 schultzw  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:40:12am

re: #131 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who put the bop in the bop-shoo-wop-shoo-wop?

136 HugoChavez  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:40:17am

re: #125 MandyManners

MANDY! hot neo-con white woman!

I have a surprise for you!

137 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:40:38am

"We hired a fox to guard the hen house. It is unreasonable to expect us to hire someone to guard the fox. That is guarding the guards. Where would the cycle end?"

138 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:40:43am
139 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:40:44am

re: #56 mean Gene

But he HAS to do Townhall Meetings with McCain!
John McCain is willing to carbuspool to them with him!

140 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:41:04am

With just a tad of scrutiny, knocked off his prepared talkin' points of HOPE & CHANGE, Obama seems to be without whole words.

141 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:41:11am

re: #127 Cygnus

''And next on the agenda - we'll have the Quilting Bee here next Friday at 7 PM followed by a meeting of the Floral Club."

Wasn't the "floral club" how they brainwashed Sinatra's platoon in The Manchurian Candidate?

142 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:41:15am

Who Does Number 2 Work For? /Austin Powers

143 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:41:45am

re: #137 Silhouette

"We hired a fox to guard the hen house. It is unreasonable to expect us to hire someone to guard the fox. That is guarding the guards. Where would the cycle end?"


electing Obama would be like letting somebody from PETA guard the hen house

144 HugoChavez  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:41:59am

re: #142 lawhawk

Don't blow a gasket now, buddy.

145 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:42:14am

Obama, got news for ya' pal. You are the one who vets the vetters.

146 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:42:24am

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

He's toast at the town hall meetings.

Not if he stacks the decks with planted questioners, the way Hilary Clinton did.

147 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:42:47am

re: #131 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who Vets the Vetters?

The watcher of the watchmen?

148 gameover  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:42:49am

His other "choice" - Eric Holder - isn't much better..

See: [Link: www.dickmorris.com...]

On his first day as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Barack Obama made his first clear, serious mistake: He named Eric Holder as one of three people charged with vice-presidential vetting.

As deputy attorney general, Holder was the key person who made the pardon of Marc Rich possible in the final hours of the Clinton presidency. Now, Obama will be stuck in the Marc Rich mess.


If ever there was a person who did not deserve a presidential pardon, it’s Marc Rich, the fugitive billionaire who renounced his US citizenship and moved to Switzerland to avoid prosecution for racketeering, wire fraud, 51 counts of tax fraud, evading $48 million in taxes, and engaging in illegal trades with Iran in violation of the US embargo following the 1979-80 hostage crisis.

Seventeen years later, Rich wanted a pardon, and he retained Jack Quinn, former counsel to the president, to lobby his old boss.

It was Holder who had originally recommended Quinn to one of Rich’s advisers, although he claims that he did not know the identity of the client.

And he gave substantive advice to Quinn along the way. According to Quinn’s notes that were produced to Congress, Holder told Quinn to take the pardon application “straight to the White House” because “the timing is good.”

And once the pardon was granted, Holder sent his congratulations to Quinn.

In 2002, a congressional committee reported that Holder was a “willing participant in the plan to keep the Justice Department from knowing about and opposing” the Rich pardon.

It is one thing to reach back to Obama’s pastor to raise doubts about his values. But it is quite another to scrutinize the record of his first appointee.

It couldn’t be a bigger mistake.

blockquote>

149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:42:53am

re: #142 lawhawk

Who Does Number 2 Work For? /Austin Powers

"That's right, buddy - you show that turd who's boss!"

150 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:42:57am

re: #131 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Its supposed to be Obama himself.

/guess not.

151 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:43:35am

McCain vs Obamasamassiah? McCain vs Shrillary? (just hoping there)
Either way, possibly the best year for Nader's campaign ever! Nader just needs to get Ron Paul (or Shrillary) to run with...
(or Cthulhu's year for that matter, but then one can alawys hope for the known greater vs the unknown lesser evil)

152 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:43:36am

re: #56 mean Gene

But he HAS to do Townhall Meetings with McCain!
John McCain is willing to carpool to them with him!

Better than carpooling with Ted K. Oh, wait - is it too soon for comments like that? Sorry.

153 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:43:58am

re: #19 allah this

Love the tie-less dinnerjacket look, Barry. "Genocide chic"

I've seen more than one pic of him in the tie-less look.

Chavez and Morales favor it, too. They specifically do it to be anti-US. I think they call it anti-western though.

154 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:03am
155 irish rose  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:22am

Notice that Barry the patriot always has an American flag or two behind him when he speaks now?

A manufactured public persona, for the consumption of the ignorant masses... and the ignorant masses swallow it whole.

156 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:30am

Baruch is being manipulated by waaay too many people.

Not many pieces of the Obama pie left to dish out.

157 doppelganglander  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:32am

re: #62 Occasional Reader

Since Obama's VP search committee doesn't actually have to work for him, presumably we all can form one, too.

My nominee.

That's great, but no presidential nominee wants a veep who will outshine him.

158 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:44am

Okay, I want debates. I want unscripted debates. As soon as the Dem convention is over and the Dems don't get to fall back on Her Satanic Majesty. Let's see how both candidates think on their feet.


I suspect it will be like Jar Jar versus Yoda in a lightsaber duel. The only question is whether Yoda will kill him mercifully or be a bastard about it.

159 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:52am

One of the little known positive benefits of nicotine is that it increases the ability of the mind to focus. Spark one up, Barry! You know you want one, or two, or forty.

160 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:44:54am

"I can't vet the vetters" is kind of a far cry from Harry S. Truman's "the buck stops here", isn't it?

161 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:45:03am

re: #143 Shug

electing Obama would be like letting somebody from PETA guard the hen house

Great analogy!

If the fox has to starve, we all should starve. Equal misery for every body!

162 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:45:05am

"I've got this teeny little johnson problem"

163 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:45:26am

re: #158 RememberSekhmet?

Okay, I want debates. I want unscripted debates. As soon as the Dem convention is over and the Dems don't get to fall back on Her Satanic Majesty. Let's see how both candidates think on their feet.


I suspect it will be like Jar Jar versus Yoda in a lightsaber duel. The only question is whether Yoda will kill him mercifully or be a bastard about it.

I'm hoping for bastard...

164 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:45:52am

re: #153 Silhouette

I've seen more than one pic of him in the tie-less look.

Chavez and Morales favor it, too. They specifically do it to be anti-US. I think they call it anti-western though.

BIG TIES ARE CHOKING US OFF!

165 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:23am
166 Desert Dog  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:29am

re: #158 RememberSekhmet?

Okay, I want debates. I want unscripted debates. As soon as the Dem convention is over and the Dems don't get to fall back on Her Satanic Majesty. Let's see how both candidates think on their feet.


I suspect it will be like Jar Jar versus Yoda in a lightsaber duel. The only question is whether Yoda will kill him mercifully or be a bastard about it.

McCain is not much better, it might be Jar Jar vs. CP3O...sounds like we all lose! waaah

167 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:31am

re: #162 faraway

"I've got this teeny little johnson problem"


I hear the blue pills work
LOL

168 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:35am

re: #155 irish rose

Notice that Barry the patriot always has an American flag or two behind him when he speaks now?

A manufactured public persona, for the consumption of the ignorant masses... and the ignorant masses swallow it whole.


Flag desecration laws need be enacted! !

169 Cognito  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:41am

And good for the WSJ, unearthing Jim Johnson's not-so-illustrious dealings.

170 tfc3rid  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:47am

Reading the title of the thread makes Obama sounds like Beavid or Butthead...

Oh hell, he sounds like BOTH!

171 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:46:59am

re: #162 faraway

"I've got this teeny little Charles johnson problem"

Fixed it for ya...

172 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:47:04am
173 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:47:35am

re: #146 looking closely

Not if he stacks the decks with planted questioners, the way Hilary Clinton did.

More on town hall fakery:

[Link: www.salon.com...]

174 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:48:00am

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

Obama Admits Smoking Cigarettes in Last Few Months

He can't leave anything bad.

His Marxism.
His church for 20 years.
His pastor.
His Johnson.

175 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:48:34am

re: #136 HugoChavez

MANDY! hot neo-con white woman!

I have a surprise for you!

Interesting shadow. No danglies.

176 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:48:35am

re: #162 faraway

"I've got this teeny little johnson problem"


Hopefully by November it turns into electile dysfunction

177 calvin coolidge  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:48:40am

Look. He's almost making sentences and turning them into paragraphs.

178 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:48:43am

re: #174 faraway

Looks like he picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue...

179 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:49:11am

re: #121 faraway

I think we had this all wrong.

Obama's not driving a bus.

People are falling into the Obama Triangle™ , never to return.

They've been sent by Q-bama to the Delta Quadrant.

180 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:49:41am

re: #72 Neo Con since 9-11

His vetting committee is an unpaid assignment? What the hell is he doing with that $100 million?

doesn't he have political friends in Chicago?...

181 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:49:45am
182 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:03am

In the solitude of the Clinton underground bunker a cackle is heard, and hope is renewed.

The message is sent out far and wide by code: the delegates will not be released! Keep posting on Obama's web site my pretties !

183 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:06am

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

Obama Admits Smoking Cigarettes in Last Few Months


From your link:

“He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.”


Still? You're not supposed to keep using that stuff for months on end. That's probably part of why he's spacing out.

184 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:06am

re: #177 calvin coolidge

Look. He's almost making sentences and turning them into paragraphs.

Now, most of the words in the sentences are variations on "uh", but still...

185 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:08am

re: #160 Occasional Reader

"I can't vet the vetters" is kind of a far cry from Harry S. Truman's "the buck stops here", isn't it?

It's not a recognized sign of the ability to lead, no.

186 bulwrk  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:17am

For a guy who says he is going to create all kinds of good paying jobs he sure doesn't seem like he wants to pay many people that work for him.

187 Kenneth  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:18am

"That's not a sentence, that just a bag of words" -Jon Stewart

188 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:20am

re: #176 Shug

Hopefully by November it turns into electile dysfunction

Ohm very good!

Good afternoon, Lizards,

189 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:50:35am

re: #178 anotherindyfilmguy

Looks like he picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue...

Picked the wrong week to quit..

190 Kenneth  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:51:13am

The buck stops anywhere but at Obama.

191 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:51:33am

re: #148 gameover

His other "choice" - Eric Holder - isn't much better..

See: [Link: www.dickmorris.com...]

* * *
Mr. Holder as Janet Reno's deputy attorney general, sent the goons on Easter to nab little Elian Gonzalez and ship him back to Fidel Castro, over Elian's dead mother's body.

Si Se Puede, Senyor Fidel.

192 SusanL  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:51:49am

That is one thing I just can't get over. Liberals are the most outrageously anti-smoking people I have ever seen, yet their hero Obama is a smoker.

I wonder how they reconcile that? Probably the same way they reconcile all the rest of his BS. They ignore it.

193 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:52:07am
re: #72 Neo Con since 9-11
His vetting committee is an unpaid assignment? What the hell is he doing with that $100 million?

The Senate should enact a Windfall Election Profits tax.

194 zombie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:52:10am
Obama: We're Not, Uh, Vetting The, Uh, Vetters

But are they vedding the Eddie Vedders?

195 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:52:38am
196 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:53:01am

re: #155 irish rose

Notice that Barry the patriot always has an American flag or two behind him when he speaks now?

Notice, also, how often he is photographed in the classic Soviet-propaganda "hero" pose:

1) camera angle looking up at him
2) His face or eyes are looking up, off to the side
3) Light shining on his face
4) hand or arm reaching up and out

Sometimes just combinations of the above.

Now that I've pointed it out, it will drive you crazy noticing it every day. And not just his official campaign stuff - the media jumps right in to help.

Reminds me of a gal I knew who had a image consultant tell her she looked better with her brows up. For the next three years I knew her, she always looked surprised, especially in any photo.

197 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:53:49am

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

Obama Admits Smoking Cigarettes in Last Few Months

But he didn't inhale.

198 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:53:59am

Shouldn't Ahmadinejad and Chavez be on Obama's Vice Presidential selection committee? I mean after the election they will pretty much be running the country with Michelle.

199 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:54:16am

re: #192 SusanL

That is one thing I just can't get over. Liberals are the most outrageously anti-smoking people I have ever seen, yet their hero Obama is a smoker.

I wonder how they reconcile that? Probably the same way they reconcile all the rest of his BS. They ignore it.


Because he can "hold fire in his hand."

200 Dianna  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:54:18am

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

I don't care if he smokes. He's an idjit, and that's what I care about.

201 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:55:02am

re: #191 alegrias

Wonder what Menendez had to say about this?

202 hennigan's wake  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:55:11am

After McCain's "speech" the other night--we should use the word advisedly--I'm not sure Obama's opponents (of which I am one) should mock or disdain how this guy communicates. McCain couldn't have sold water to a parched rich guy, you know?

the substance of his explanation is piffle, to be sure.

these kinds of things are bi-partisan. A close advisor or buddy turns out to be a scumbag and they are always at a loss for words. They never learn: tell the truth.

imagine if Obama had said, "Look, I had no idea. The guy is a friend and supporter and has given me damned good advice on a few occcasions. This looks bad and may well actually be bad. Nothing is going to diminish my respect or appreciation for the man, but I can't have this distract me from bigger things, so I've asked him to step down."

Imagine if Bush had done that with Rumsfeld?

203 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:55:27am

re: #196 Silhouette

Now that I've pointed it out, it will drive you crazy noticing it every day

Kind of like, once you notice that analog watches in watch ads are almost always set for about 10:10.

204 CIA Reject  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:55:29am

Obama for America is looking for a network security teleprompter installation expert who wants to play a key role in a historic political campaign and help elect Barack Obama as the next President of the United States.

Must be able to work discreetly in the field at a moment's notice...

205 zombie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:56:02am

So, let me get this straight. I just watched the video and Obama seems to be saying:

"Someone is choosing the list of people who might be the next president of the United States, but I don't really know anything about the people who are doing that choosing, nor do these people actually work for me."

That certainly inspires confidence in me! I'm reassured to know that a shadowy cabal of mystery kleptocrats and socialists are choosing who will lead the free world.

206 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:56:16am

re: #192 SusanL

That is one thing I just can't get over. Liberals are the most outrageously anti-smoking people I have ever seen, yet their hero Obama is a smoker.

I wonder how they reconcile that? Probably the same way they reconcile all the rest of his BS. They ignore it.

Obama was lured to smoke by Joe Camel and Big Tobacco spikes the cigarettes with extra nicotine to keep him hooked

It's not his fault

He's a Victim

207 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:56:19am

I only smoke after $ex
And I smoke 2 packs a day
LOL

208 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:56:35am

re: #194 zombie

But are they vedding the Eddie Vedders?

Can't find a Vetter man

209 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:56:55am

re: #199 Ben Hur

Because he can "hold fire in his hand."


Barack make fire. Barack powerful. Um.

210 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:57:00am

Does the vetter drive a 'Vet?

211 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:57:18am

I reckon Hugo's off looking for his danglies.

212 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:57:20am

re: #196 Silhouette

Notice, also, how often he is photographed in the classic Soviet-propaganda "hero" pose:

1) camera angle looking up at him
2) His face or eyes are looking up, off to the side
3) Light shining on his face
4) hand or arm reaching up and out

Sometimes just combinations of the above.

Now that I've pointed it out, it will drive you crazy noticing it every day. And not just his official campaign stuff - the media jumps right in to help.

Reminds me of a gal I knew who had a image consultant tell her she looked better with her brows up. For the next three years I knew her, she always looked surprised, especially in any photo.

I don't mind that half as much as the religious icon photos...does anyone still have the one where he's descending a staircase into a rapt crowd? I swear he has an aura around him, and the whole photo screamed DaVinci's Last Supper to me. Spooky, yet disgusting.

213 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:58:10am

re: #198 offendi

Shouldn't Ahmadinejad and Chavez be on Obama's Vice Presidential selection committee? I mean after the election they will pretty much be running the country with Michelle.

Do they speak Hungarian? Soros can be difficult to understand in English at times.

214 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:58:33am

re: #207 LeftJustAintRight

I only smoke after $ex
And I smoke 2 packs a day
LOL

Do you smoke after $ex?...Don't know...I've never looked.

215 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:59:00am
216 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:59:18am

Is it too late to obtain exclusive rights to the "Obama 08 Popcorn Concession"?

217 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:59:32am
218 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 11:59:49am

I'm trying to think of a time when B. Hussein has has, that's my fault, I'm responsible, what happen is under in my campaign is under my control.

I don't remember one.

He's want the job as the most powerful man in the world.

Yet he won't take responsibility.

I wouldn't hire a latrine queen who wouldn't take responsibility for their job.

219 zombie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:00:05pm

re: #7 gibsonz

He is a stumbling bumbling boob without the teleprompter.

That's it!

Obama is actually Bush in a mask.

Damn, those Republicans are diabolical.

220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:00:28pm

re: #207 LeftJustAintRight

I only smoke after $ex
And I smoke 2 packs a day
LOL

Thats a lot of hand lotion too.

221 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:00:47pm

re: #160 Occasional Reader

"I can't vet the vetters" is kind of a far cry from Harry S. Truman's "the buck stops here", isn't it?

Yes, and it's a lot like the "It's not my fault!" cry of the ineffective characters in Atlas Shrugged.

222 Dahveed  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:00:53pm

The fact that Hillary lost to this Bozo really says something about Hillary!

223 opinionated  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:01:04pm

I understand Obama.

Imagine a scene where the search committee is interviewing a potential VP choice.

Committee: Are you a crook?
VP applicant. Are you crooks?
Committee: You first?
VP applicant: No, you first.
Committee: You
VP applicant: You.

It could go on forever.

We should just let Sweet Caroline pick the VP. She is as qualified for the task as Obama is to be President.

224 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:01:11pm

re: #219 zombie

That's it!

Obama is actually Bush in a mask.

Damn, those Republicans are diabolical.

ROFLMAO!

Rove you magnificent bastard!

225 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:01:21pm

re: #201 offendi

Wonder what Menendez had to say about this?

* * *
Democrat Menendez, Robert of New Jersey was born in 1954 New York City to Cuban parents who left Cuba the year before he was born, 1953.

Was there any democrat who objected to the Clinton/Reno/Eric Holder plan to return Elian Gonzalez to Fidel Castro in 2000?

226 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:01:26pm

re: #213 OldLineTexan

They all speak $ don't they? Personally I think Barack, the economic genius, will decide to switch the country to the euro because it has higher value.

227 CIA Reject  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:01:54pm

re: #222 Dahveed

The fact that Hillary lost to this Bozo really says something about Hillary!

It says even more about the voters in the democrat party.

228 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:01:56pm

re: #221 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Yes, and it's a lot like the "It's not my fault!" cry of the ineffective characters in Atlas Shrugged.

Ayn is turning out to be quite the prophet.

229 zombie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:02:13pm

re: #8 Occasional Reader

"These aren't folks who are working for me"

Your own Veep search committee isn't working for you?! What, it's like a rogue Veep search committee?

This could be a positive trend. Let's set up our own veep committee for Obama, since the job seems to be open to anyone who wants it.

I nominate Bernadine Dohrn.

230 runrabbitrun  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:02:24pm

re: #219 zombie


Obama is actually Bush in a mask.

*gasp*

Rove, you magnificent b@st@rd!

231 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:02:45pm

re: #225 alegrias

EXACTLY! How do you say "phony"?

232 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:02:48pm

re: #209 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Barack make fire. Barack powerful. Um.

Lightworker take Og fire starter. Lightworker take Og meat. Og not believe in change.

233 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:03:25pm

re: #226 offendi

They all speak $ don't they? Personally I think Barack, the economic genius, will decide to switch the country to the euro because it has higher value.

Dinnerjacket and Chavez do not strike me as Sorosian financial "geniuses".

234 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:03:28pm

re: #208 Shug

Can't find a Vetter man


boy, Shug, you're on a damn roll today, aren't you?


/Kaiser...there! Beat ya to it!


:-D

235 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:03:58pm

re: #212 OldLineTexan

You can find that Obama photo here. Along with lots more. Actually, it always reminds me of The Transfiguration of Jesus. Gag.

236 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:04:05pm

re: #212 OldLineTexan

I don't mind that half as much as the religious icon photos...does anyone still have the one where he's descending a staircase into a rapt crowd? I swear he has an aura around him, and the whole photo screamed DaVinci's Last Supper to me. Spooky, yet disgusting.


Do you mean this one? [Link: nymag.com...]

yes, ick. That's George Soros in the blue shirt sitting next to the stairs.

237 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:04:50pm

re: #235 Cygnus

You can find that Obama photo here. Along with lots more. Actually, it always reminds me of The Transfiguration of Jesus. Gag.

OMG, that's it! Thanks!

238 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:04:53pm

re: #202 hennigan's wake

After McCain's "speech" the other night--we should use the word advisedly--I'm not sure Obama's opponents (of which I am one) should mock or disdain how this guy communicates. McCain couldn't have sold water to a parched rich guy, you know?

the substance of his explanation is piffle, to be sure.

these kinds of things are bi-partisan. A close advisor or buddy turns out to be a scumbag and they are always at a loss for words. They never learn: tell the truth.

imagine if Obama had said, "Look, I had no idea. The guy is a friend and supporter and has given me damned good advice on a few occcasions. This looks bad and may well actually be bad. Nothing is going to diminish my respect or appreciation for the man, but I can't have this distract me from bigger things, so I've asked him to step down."

Imagine if Bush had done that with Rumsfeld?


* * *

Imagine if Bush had done that with Rumsfeld?

Rummy had been a wunderkind genius defense secretary, youngest in history, in previous administrations, not a failed vetter of Mondale/Ferraro & Kerry/Edwards.

Rummy pushed transformation on the Pentagon which many folks thought needed doing, before 9/11.

Rummy overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan in a matter of weeks.

Rummy's record was pretty good until it wasn't. Not like scuzzy Jim Johnsons zero for zero record plus ethical lapses ad infinitum.

239 Dahveed  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:04:56pm

re: #227 CIA Reject

It says even more about the voters in the democrat party.

Yes they were always a little whacked. But they are getting worse all the time.

240 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:05:01pm

re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats a lot of hand lotion too.

Oh, for cryin' out loud.

241 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:05:27pm

Shocker - Obama birth name:

Barry Manilow Obama

242 USBeast  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:05:32pm

So Barking Insane Obama is going to stick with Johnson...vetter it helps him or not.

243 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:06:54pm

re: #174 faraway

He can't leave anything bad.

His Marxism.
His church for 20 years.
His pastor.
His Johnson.


His Cigarettes
But all we have with his scanty record is his great judgment.
/

244 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:06:55pm

re: #241 faraway

Shocker - Obama birth name:

Barry Manilow Obama


"Oh, Dhimmi, and you came and voted without thinkin'..
and I need you today ohh Dhimmi"...


ok I quit!

245 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:07:00pm

re: #241 faraway

Shocker - Obama birth name:

Barry Manilow Obama


Barrack Hussein BinLaden Obama /08 !

246 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:07:37pm

re: #233 OldLineTexan

No, but maybe they are footsoldiers for old contrarian Georgie?

247 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:07:48pm
248 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:08:13pm

re: #231 offendi

EXACTLY! How do you say "phony"?

* * *
Es un falso!

249 cblesz  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:08:14pm

Well, if your whole campaign and idealogy is built on rhetoric and "soundbytes"...of course he stumbles when questioned. Because he is so full of shit...

250 CommonCents  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:08:30pm

The politics of this interview are so obvious. He's trying to appeal to the "dumb bible-toting gun-owners" that live in his mind.

251 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:08:33pm

re: #212 OldLineTexan

I don't mind that half as much as the religious icon photos.

Like this?

252 schultzw  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:09:29pm

re: #250 CommonCents

not dumb, bitter

253 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:09:29pm

Bumbling Barack's Johnson Search Goes Limp

254 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:09:46pm

re: #176 Shug

Hopefully by November it turns into electile dysfunction

The Chicago Machine will introduce Voteagra

255 filetandrelease  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:10:03pm

The republican elites have messed up the conservative party so bad that I really want to vote for this buffoon, but damn he is making it difficult. I sure hope McCain picks a really good VP to get me rethinking what a bone head he is.

256 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:10:06pm

CAIR is Hussein Obamas VP vetting committee

257 Shug  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:10:17pm

The audacity of dope

258 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:10:36pm

re: #246 offendi

No, but maybe they are footsoldiers for old contrarian Georgie?

Hmmm...is either currency worth squat, internationally? Georgie may be holding them hostage, threatening to take their economies down.

259 Desert Dog  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:10:36pm

re: #253 faraway

Bumbling Barack's Johnson Search Goes Limp

Here's Barack, hanging out on Johnson Drive

260 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:10:51pm

Oh Dear.
OT/
I was laughing at the Saudi's crashing that Airbus on their look-see after buying it the other day...and today, right now, another airbus is ablaze.
This time there are people on board.

261 USBeast  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:11:11pm

re: #254 Kosh's Shadow

The Chicago Machine will introduce Voteagra

It might work. That machine has been able to raise the dead for an election.

262 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:11:22pm

re: #251 Silhouette

Like this?

That's quite a dandruff problem he has there.

263 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:11:32pm
264 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:11:59pm

re: #217 MandyManners

Vedder's Yellow Ledbetter.

I liked that song better when Hendrix called it "Little Wing".

265 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:12:16pm

re: #248 alegrias

* * *
Es un falso!

Mas falso que un cachetada de payaso

266 MES41067  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:12:25pm

Yep thats what you do you donkey. You ck and make sure the people that are out looking out for your best interests are the best of the the best.From what I've seen he doesn't seem to have any one worth a shit around him.

267 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:12:33pm

re: #262 Cygnus

That's quite a dandruff problem he has there.

Is that from the movie where he hides in the toys, flies a bike, and then gets picked up and taken home?

268 Irish Rose  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:12:54pm

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

Obama Admits Smoking Cigarettes in Last Few Months

Oooh yeah... little wifey Michelles' gotta be pretty pissed about that little admission. Bet she's really giving him the treatment at home.

Great news for us though, because clearly this means that JackieO-Bama is not going to be helping with the campaign any more!.



CHICAGO, Feb. 11 -- Michelle Obama says she agreed to help her husband run for president on one condition: That he finally quit smoking. For good.

"I hate it," she said on CBS' 60 Minutes, according to a transcript released Sunday. "That's why he doesn't do it anymore. I'm proud to say. I outed him -- I'm the one who outed him on the smoking. That was one of my prerequisites for, you know, entering this race, is that, you know, he couldn't be a smoking president."

/bitch

If you can't keep a promise to your wife, Barry, then you can't keep a promise to anyone.

269 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:12:55pm

re: #263 Iron Fist

,

Votegra? What's it do, raise the dead?

But if they're alive for more than four hours, call a mortician.

270 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:13:06pm

re: #207 LeftJustAintRight

I only smoke after $ex


Smoke after sex?

/Don't know. . .never looked.

271 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:13:08pm

re: #255 filetandrelease

The republican elites have messed up the conservative party so bad that I really want to vote for this buffoon, but damn he is making it difficult. I sure hope McCain picks a really good VP to get me rethinking what a bone head he is.

yeah, you just go ahead and vote rampant socialism into office. Pissed off or not ( and I am too BTW) national defense is still THE primary concern, so without that we can't fix the other shit you and I are pissed off about. Vote a socialist in power and it's like handing Mao the keys...

272 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:13:22pm

BTW, is rlevitin here? Thanks for your Pali help yesterday and I want to make sure all new lizards know of Nekama's Troll Hammer posted in the Resources section above. Awesome tool for Pali-lovin' ignorants.

Here's my latest response to the 18yr. old who has it all figured out-

Let's start at the beginning and please listen to the Arab leaders in their own words...

-Jews had been living in these lands for thousands of years and in increasing numbers since the 1920's even though they were highly restricted by the British rulers. Then came 1948 and the great partition. The United Nations proposed the creation of two states in the region – one Jewish, one Arab. The Jews accepted it even while noting that their portion was quite small and completely indefensible. The Arabs rejected it with a vengeance and declared war. (1 below)


Arab League Secretary Azzam Pasha on September 16, 1947.

"The Arab world is not in a compromising mood. It's likely, Mr. Horowitz (Jewish Representative), that your plan is rational and logical, but the fate of nations is not decided by rational logic. Nations never concede; they fight. You won't get anything by peaceful means or compromise. You can, perhaps, get something, but only by the force of your arms. We shall try to defeat you. I am not sure we'll succeed, but we'll try. We were able to drive out the Crusaders, but on the other hand we lost Spain and Persia. It may be that we shall lose Palestine. But it's too late to talk of peaceful solutions." (2)

Azzam Pasha called for "jihad", saying:

* This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades".

Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, agreed with Pasha:

* I declare a holy war, my muslim brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!

In a letter to the United Nations, the Transjordanian Prime Minister was quoted:

* "Our position is clear, and has been proclaimed on every occasion. It is never to allow the creation of a Jewish State in Palestine and to exclude partition. And our object is to cooperate with the other Arab States in her deliverance. Once this aim is attained, the determination of her future status is the right and concern of her own people. Theirs alone is the last word. We have no other object or aim in view."

Arab leaders urged Arabs to leave the area so they would not be caught in the crossfire. They could return to their homes, they were told, after Israel was crushed and the Jews destroyed. It didn't work out that way. By most counts, several hundred thousand Arabs were displaced by this war – not by Israeli aggression, not by some Jewish real-estate grab, not by Israeli expansionism. Their own Arab brothers told them to get out of the way of the upcoming massacre.

273 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:13:30pm

re: #255 filetandrelease

The republican elites have messed up the conservative party so bad that I really want to vote for this buffoon, but damn he is making it difficult. I sure hope McCain picks a really good VP to get me rethinking what a bone head he is.

* * *
McCain's head was bashed many times by communists, it's true, but he makes more sense and has more sense even while bashed than the junior Illinois community organizer does.

McCain nearly died while protecting preserving & defending his country--JOB NUMBER ONE then, and now.

T

274 saberry0530  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:13:53pm

re: #167 LeftJustAintRight

I hear the blue pills work
LOL


that just results in a harder tiney small johnson.

275 paxnhymn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:13:55pm

re: #262 Cygnus

That's quite a dandruff problem he has there.

that's not dandruff...he forgot to CHANGE his underwear...

276 faraway  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:14:15pm

re: #263 Iron Fist

,

Votegra? What's it do, raise the dead?

If you have been dead for 4 hours and still have an erection, please contact your doctor.

277 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:14:19pm

re: #260 mean Gene

Oh Dear.
OT/
I was laughing at the Saudi's crashing that Airbus on their look-see after buying it the other day...and today, right now, another airbus is ablaze.
This time there are people on board.

Link?

278 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:14:22pm

re: #196 Silhouette

Notice, also, how often he is photographed in the classic Soviet-propaganda "hero" pose:

blockquote>


Just like Che! [Link: www.thechestore.com...]

279 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:14:23pm

re: #222 Dahveed

The fact that Hillary lost to this Bozo really says something about Hillary!

Disagree, it says the democratic party is infested with extreme leftists that skewer their primary results. She is one of the savviest American politicians in the current era who would have beaten McCain by 3-4 percent points in a general election, despite her flaws and negatives.

280 USBeast  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:14:31pm

re: #269 Cygnus

But if they're alive for more than four hours, call a mortician.

Better call Dr. Von Helsing.

281 jcm  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:14:57pm

re: #270 looking closely

Smoke after sex?

/Don't know. . .never looked.

If you smoke it was too quick...

282 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:15:01pm

re: #248 alegrias

Ah, yes. :)

283 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:15:28pm

re: #276 faraway

If you have been dead for 4 hours and still have an erection, please contact your doctor.

GMTA (see #269)!

284 Desert Dog  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:15:36pm

Obama is smoking and now this report comes out... maybe he is forgetting what his handlers are telling him?

285 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:16:05pm

Re the Airbus crash:
At least 100 dead,
200 passengers, 14 crew in Khartom, Sudan, from Aman, Jordan.
An Airbus a-310.

286 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:16:46pm

math time.

approx 320 million Americans. Lets say 2/3rds of those are of voting age. (that takes us to about 211 million). The country is just about evenly split Repub/ Dem when it comes to elections. That takes us down to about 105 million. Charitibly, the independents take about 5% off of each side, so for the Democrats that leaves us with about 100 Million people.

Out of that 100 Million people, THIS is what the Dems offer?
AND ,,, out of the remaining 99,999,999 people, these are the people the Messiah surrounds himself with?

CHANGE!

287 saberry0530  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:16:56pm

re: #283 Cygnus

GMTA (see #269)!

Thought that that was a necrophiliacs dream?

288 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:17:05pm

re: #279 offendi

Disagree, it says the democratic party is infested with extreme leftists that skewer their primary results. She is one of the savviest American politicians in the current era who would have beaten McCain by 3-4 percent points in a general election, despite her flaws and negatives.


Hillary lost to an illegal alien thats not even eligable to be POTUS
Hahahaha

289 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:17:24pm

re: #285 mean Gene

Re the Airbus crash:
At least 100 dead,
200 passengers, 14 crew in Khartom, Sudan, from Aman, Jordan.
An Airbus a-310.

Oh, dear. Terrible.

290 songbird  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:17:26pm

re: #25 MrC_5150

New poster:

Change

It really should say "SUBJECT TO CHANGE"

291 MES41067  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:18:02pm

re: #290 songbird

It really should say "SUBJECT TO CHANGE"

Nice very good like that.

292 Desert Dog  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:18:20pm

re: #286 sattv4u2

math time.

approx 320 million Americans. Lets say 2/3rds of those are of voting age. (that takes us to about 211 million). The country is just about evenly split Repub/ Dem when it comes to elections. That takes us down to about 105 million. Charitibly, the independents take about 5% off of each side, so for the Democrats that leaves us with about 100 Million people.

Out of that 100 Million people, THIS is what the Dems offer?
AND ,,, out of the remaining 99,999,999 people, these are the people the Messiah surrounds himself with?

CHANGE!


Well, we got McCain...so, even though we are better off than the Dems, we ain't THAT much better off...

293 looking closely  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:18:40pm

re: #279 offendi

Disagree, it says the democratic party is infested with extreme leftists that skewer their primary results. She is one of the savviest American politicians in the current era who would have beaten McCain by 3-4 percent points in a general election, despite her flaws and negatives.


She couldn't beat a second rate party hack from IL, how was she going to beat McCain with the highest general unpopularity rating of any of the candidates in the contest?

294 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:19:01pm

re: #258 OldLineTexan

When the kossies start to wonder if Georgie's complex international financial machinations are keeping them down as coffee barristas and entry-level drones, well the revolution will begin!

295 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:19:38pm

re: #290 songbird

It really should say "SUBJECT TO CHANGE"

Where is that DIY Obama poster website again? I thought that I'd bookmarked it.

296 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:20:04pm

Now, now, now...
Obama's Veep team is considering a retired military man to run with him on the ticket!
(Who? Wesley Clark?)
That should shore up the ex-military who hate America vote.

[Link: www.startribune.com...]
Of course, it's Nedra Pickler, so take it with a grain of salt.

297 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:20:15pm

re: #205 zombie

I'm reassured to know that a shadowy cabal of mystery kleptocrats and socialists are choosing who will lead the free world.

For that matter, if it's true, Obama should be worried about exactly what he's being set up for.

"I don't know them, and they just showed up and volunteered to help pick my V.P."

298 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:20:54pm

re: #296 mean Gene

Now, now, now...
Obama's Veep team is considering a retired military man to run with him on the ticket!
(Who? Wesley Clark?)
That should shore up the ex-military who hate America vote.

Not Clark (he was on Team Clinton). More likely Webb to help in in VA

299 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:21:24pm

re: #288 LeftJustAintRight

Be careful, or Michelle will pay you a visit. You don't want that.

300 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:21:25pm

Obama: "It depends on what the definition of 'uh' is...

301 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:21:53pm
302 Crashnburn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:22:18pm

How will the MSM cover for him in Town Hall style debates?

He'll need to learn to lip synch while they play a tape recorded response through the speakers, ala Ashlee Simpson's "performance" on SNL a few years ago. Hope the tape doesn't break like hers did!

303 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:23:33pm

re: #302 Crashnburn

How will the MSM cover for him in Town Hall style debates?
He'll need to learn to lip synch while they play a tape recorded response through the speakers, ala Ashlee Simpson's "performance" on SNL a few years ago. Hope the tape doesn't break like hers did!

easy,, audience plants with pre-rehearesd questions.

304 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:24:10pm

Obama's word bumbling is not solely a product of the Johnson vetting the vetter, soon to be new bus problem, but that of Obama being newly inundated with a whole host of questions being posed. Who's this? What's that? Internet security issues and other?

He's beginning, just beginning to display signs of wear. Keep applying pressure and Michelle's bound to explode.

305 filetandrelease  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:24:45pm

re: #271 paxnhymn

Fortunately, there is a lot of time before the election. And Obama keeps exposing himself. Unfortunately, a lot of the disenfranchised aren't really paying that much attention. And he sure can make a pretty speech.

306 Crashnburn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:26:12pm

re: #303 sattv4u2

Heck, that is a given! "Umm, how are you going to take care of us like your your children, Mr. Clinton?" THAT wasn't planted...

Of course, at the time, I was screaming at the TV that spaying and neutering idiots that ask that kind of question would be a valid response, Mr. Clinton. He didn't go there, though...

307 debutaunt  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:26:39pm

re: #174 faraway

He can't leave anything bad.

His Marxism.
His church for 20 years.
His pastor.
His Johnson.

His coke-a-dope?

308 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:27:08pm
309 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:27:39pm

re: #269 Cygnus

But if they're alive for more than four hours one election day, call a mortician.

310 FreakyBoy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:27:48pm

Guys, like with the fist pump of love, NEWSWEEK or TIME will do a story on the history of stammering, and how it's usage indicates deep intellect, sincere conviction and infinite empathy.

311 Crashnburn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:28:08pm

re: #305 filetandrelease
Don't worry - all the disenfranchised dead people in Chicagoland will make their annual trek to the polls to reinfranchise themselves. We ought to be set up in the graveyards like Linus from Charlie Brown to see if we can catch any of them!

312 kansas  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:28:55pm

re: #31 DamnCat

"He’s described Johnson as “a friend.” "

I'm waiting for Obama to say "That's not the Johnson I know."

Takes one to know one.

Yeah or when the bathroom pictures come out, "That's not my Johnson."

313 Crashnburn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:29:06pm

re: #310 FreakyBoy
Good call!

314 jorline  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:29:09pm

re: #296 mean Gene

Now, now, now...
Obama's Veep team is considering a retired military man to run with him on the ticket!
(Who? Wesley Clark?)
That should shore up the ex-military who hate America vote.

[Link: www.startribune.com...]
Of course, it's Nedra Pickler, so take it with a grain of salt.

Yep..that would be Weasel Clark...I still say it's Richardson.

315 debutaunt  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:29:26pm

re: #196 Silhouette

Notice, also, how often he is photographed in the classic Soviet-propaganda "hero" pose:

1) camera angle looking up at him
2) His face or eyes are looking up, off to the side
3) Light shining on his face
4) hand or arm reaching up and out

Sometimes just combinations of the above.

Now that I've pointed it out, it will drive you crazy noticing it every day. And not just his official campaign stuff - the media jumps right in to help.

Reminds me of a gal I knew who had a image consultant tell her she looked better with her brows up. For the next three years I knew her, she always looked surprised, especially in any photo.

Nancy Pelosi?

316 offendi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:29:31pm

re: #293 looking closely

Country is against republicans in general and Hills would have taken the swings. Hillary too experienced for John, they would have been more politically savvy, populist, and dirty than Obama could ever be. Whites who wouldn't vote for a black man would vote for Hills. Be grateful you got Obama and call it a day. It's not about what she stands for, its about what the electorate would believe.

317 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:30:39pm

re: #308 taxfreekiller

Who is paying for the "cig's"?
Who knew about the "cig's" and when.?

Filter or not?

Who takes care of the butt's? (the cig's)

Does the campaign plane have ass, oops ash trays as well as lunch trays?

Who sweeps up the ashes?

Can the Obama blow smoke rings.

Do the HS people make him check his butane lighter?

We got questions msm.

what you got?

That's about what they'll cover for the next week or so. You nailed it.

318 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:31:21pm

Eric Holder is the real sleazy vetter. He's the lawyer who violated Justice Department rules when he crammed though the Marc Rich in the eleventh hour of Clinton's last day.

/I wonder what his cut of the payoff was?

319 krypto  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:31:45pm

As one commentator put it, "When Barack Obama sneezes, the news media praise it as great oratory."

This is not the Barack Obama I knew.

320 wolfie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:32:14pm

re: #255 filetandrelease

The republican elites have messed up the conservative party so bad that I really want to vote for this buffoon, but damn he is making it difficult. I sure hope McCain picks a really good VP to get me rethinking what a bone head he is.

I believe we are reaping the whirlwind of 60's activism. Politics has shifted leftward. The Democrat Party is finally being taken over by Marxist, post-national leftists. It is clearly now in the hands of socialists. The Republican party is now the "liberal" party of the 1960's...of Scoop Jackson, Hubert Humphrey, etc. It is the conservatives who are being squeezed out right now.

IMHO, if Barack Obama wins this election, this situation will be solidified and perpetuated. The left wing of the Dems will be vindicated. But if he should lose, the Dems will have to reassess their position and move to the center. This in turn will allow the Republican Party to move back (at least somewhat) to the right.

321 jorline  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:32:58pm

re: #312 kansas

Yeah or when the bathroom pictures come out, "That's not my Johnson."


Now Now...don't get Johnson all riled-up because he'll become a big prick-le.

322 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:33:33pm
323 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:34:37pm

re: #319 krypto

As one commentator put it, "When Barack Obama sneezes, the news media praise it as great oratory."
.

Obama bless you.

324 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:35:11pm

re: #268 Irish Rose

/bitch

If you can't keep a promise to your wife, Barry, then you can't keep a promise to anyone.

Cheating on the wife - democrat requirement for higher office.

325 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:35:22pm

re: #318 Killian Bundy

the Marc Rich pardon

/but you probably guessed that anyway

326 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:35:25pm

re: #295 Cygnus

Where is that DIY Obama poster website again? I thought that I'd bookmarked it.


[Link: pentdego.com...]

327 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:36:33pm

re: #315 debutaunt

Nancy Pelosi?

Those are the result of a failed face lift; the surgeon saw what was underneath, and slammed it back down too hard.

328 CommonCents  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:37:06pm

re: #284 Desert Dog

The researchers said that they found strong links between smoking and cognitive and memory problems later in life

That explains why all these people are not the people he knows...or knew...damn I forgot who I was talking about.

329 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:37:12pm

Any Northern Virginia lizards here please vote today in the primary to kick icky Rep. Jim Moran out of office. He's got competition from a leftist dem and two republicans today.

The Pentagon is in Moran's district, and he uses it only as a pork barrel for his district.

330 wolfie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:40:10pm

re: #329 alegrias

Any Northern Virginia lizards here please vote today in the primary to kick icky Rep. Jim Moran out of office. He's got competition from a leftist dem and two republicans today.

The Pentagon is in Moran's district, and he uses it only as a pork barrel for his district.

He is also a raging anti-semite.
Better the other leftie should be given a chance than Jim MORON should be re-elected.
Good luck, NOVAns.

331 somaking  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:40:50pm

Is the teflon wearing off yet?

332 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:40:52pm

re: #329 alegrias

This is not the Virginia I knew.

333 filetandrelease  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:41:30pm

re: #273 alegrias

Is there any merit in the argument to put Obama in so he can really screw things up, thus allowing an opportunity for Conservatives to straighten this country out. A concern I have, and many others, is McCain represents a slow death to conservatism making it much more difficult in the long run.

Such bad timing. It seems we get shafted either way. IMO

334 Phil N Blanx  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:42:13pm

"We're Not, Uh, Vetting The, Uh, Vetters"

Cool. I'm not hoping in hopers.

335 slgf  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:42:14pm

To the extent one can follow this incoherent gibberish, BHO is using the excuse that the vetting committee is volunteer and implying that therefore they are above reproach.

He manages to effortlessly peg the meter on both arrogance and naivete at the same time.

336 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:42:31pm

re: #325 Killian Bundy

the Marc Rich pardon

/but you probably guessed that anyway

"CRAMMED THROUGH THE MARC RICH"

I thought there was something new and kinky about to be relvealed!

337 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:42:41pm

re: #336 sattv4u2

"CRAMMED THROUGH THE MARC RICH"

I thought there was something new and kinky about to be relvealed!

REVEALED!

338 hennigan's wake  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:44:09pm

238-i take your point. I would note that Rumsfeld and Johnson have similarities, happily flitting between the corporate baordroom and the political backroom, getting rich as hell for doing a passable job.

but there are differences.

Johnson is a mediocre political hack, providing insight and support to semi-hopeless Dem. tickets, whereas Rumsfeld acquired real power. I don't believe that Rumsfeld did a good job with what power he was given...

He may have set out to do the things you say he did, but Iraq was in open civil war with casualties mounting preposterously when he was booted and the Taliban is still a threat in Afghanistan.

everything else is just everything else.

339 songbird  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:45:09pm

re: #326 wannabuyaduck

[Link: pentdego.com...]

Not the Obama I Know

340 Annar  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:45:28pm

re: #197 Cygnus

They have a Quisling in their midst. He's a wholly owned operative of Big Tobacco! The Dhimmis got fooled 'cause they thought it was weed which is illegal but ok.

341 somaking  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:46:56pm

re: #113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey, isnt' that racist ?!?

342 Hard Right  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:47:14pm

re: #106 USBeast

"...exercise my judgement..."?!

His judgment doesn't need exercise. It needs rehab.

More like exorcise your judgment.

343 wolfie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:47:26pm

re: #332 Silhouette

This is not the Virginia I knew.

Well, he's up in the Occupied Zone, land of the radical mosques, illegal aliens, and assorted effluvia from the District.
Hokieland probably is not much changed from when you were there.

(Did you see how UNenthusiastic the Bristol crowd was at Obama's "breathalizer" speech? Hilarious.)

344 eoin  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:47:30pm

I was going to use the "stumling bumbling" line but someone beat me to it. I think he was at his worst (if possible) during the press conference when he distanced himself from his typical white grandma, the black community and Rev J wright. It was pathetic. People will start to notice how bad he really is when there is no teleprompter. During the wright press conference barry said "you know" about 47 times. Have a great rest of week, Eoin.

345 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:47:45pm

re: #333 filetandrelease

Is there any merit in the argument to put Obama in so he can really screw things up, thus allowing an opportunity for Conservatives to straighten this country out. A concern I have, and many others, is McCain represents a slow death to conservatism making it much more difficult in the long run.

Such bad timing. It seems we get shafted either way. IMO

* * *
Filet,

Please don't say we have to destroy the village to save it. That's so leftist.

Please don't argue that our country needs another Carter presidency. We need to save our country from a Carter presidency.

346 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:48:06pm
347 wolfie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:51:13pm

re: #333 filetandrelease

Is there any merit in the argument to put Obama in so he can really screw things up, thus allowing an opportunity for Conservatives to straighten this country out. A concern I have, and many others, is McCain represents a slow death to conservatism making it much more difficult in the long run.

Such bad timing. It seems we get shafted either way. IMO

NO.
If an extreme leftist like Obama is elected, it will move all of American politics to the left.
We must, IMHO, show the Dems that left-wing extremism is a losing ticket.

348 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:51:28pm

re: #343 wolfie

(Did you see how UNenthusiastic the Bristol crowd was at Obama's "breathalizer" speech? Hilarious.)

I did. He kept acting as if he couldn't speak for the noise, but I sure didn't hear it.

Maybe Bristolians cheer at a frequency only an Obama can hear?

349 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:51:37pm
350 wolfie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:53:59pm

re: #348 Silhouette

LOL !
Yeah, I loved it when he kept saying the crowd was all "fired up."
Then you look at the faces...and they pretty much look like the faces of folks in a DMV waiting room! Snore.

351 alegrias  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:54:08pm

re: #349 taxfreekiller

We can deal with McCain, there are conservative Democrats, the blue dogs who will work with us, there are the real Republicans and once many of the current RINO's see the un-election thingey, they too will work to remain in office. McLame will do as "We the People" require and nothing more. Short leash, and one term.

* * *
Right on, TFK!

352 filetandrelease  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:54:51pm

re: #345 alegrias

LOL, I take it that in your opinion the answer is "NO!"

By electing McCain we save our country? Baby steps.

Carter gave us Reagan.

Nixon gave us Carter.

353 Hard Right  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:55:07pm

re: #345 alegrias

* * *
Filet,

Please don't say we have to destroy the village to save it. That's so leftist.

Please don't argue that our country needs another Carter presidency. We need to save our country from a Carter presidency.

Exactly. The leftist termites have significantly damaged the fondation of America. Our abilty to survive another Carter like buffoon is seriously in doubt.

354 Hard Right  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:56:55pm

re: #352 filetandrelease

LOL, I take it that in your opinion the answer is "NO!"

By electing McCain we save our country? Baby steps.

Carter gave us Reagan.

Nixon gave us Carter.

Wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.
I'm not willing to bet the country on wishes.

355 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:57:54pm

re: #352 filetandrelease

LOL, I take it that in your opinion the answer is "NO!"

By electing McCain we save our country? Baby steps.

Carter gave us Reagan.

Nixon gave us Carter.

So perhaps if we did get a strong conservative, we'd be setting ourselves up for WORSE than Carter down the road !

356 wolfie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 12:59:39pm

And remember that Carter ran as a "moderate."

With Obama's election we will get 2 things:
1) an imcompetent, destructive presidency like Carter's
2) a victory that vindicates extreme leftism, making it the openly dominant ideology of the Democrats and moving ALL of American politics to the left...and squeezing out conservatives even more then now.

357 dingleB  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:16:29pm

re: #314 jorline

My money is on General Zinni to balance the ticket. He has broader experience than Clark, and please don't get me started on NATO/Kosovo. I have personal knowledge how fucked-up that whole Op was under Clark and "O'l our blood--her guts Albright".

Here's the link on Zinni.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Zinni has been fairly outspoken of GW as of early 2003. His book titled The Battle for Peace: A Frontline Vision of America's Power and Purpose plods along until literally the last page when he slams Bush. His cover was that he had a "dog in the race" with a son who was a company grade officer in the Corps.

I personally don't care who Barry chooses as a running mate. I want to see the interview of somebody that "did a little blow" with him back in the day!

358 BigJohn  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:27:35pm

re: #196 Silhouette

I noticed that he really likes to look up and to the left. It's definitely a pose. Isn't that also what the body language people say about liars.

359 godfrey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:30:59pm

Obama says nothing here in defense of Johnson himself. If Johnson had obvious merits, you'd think Obama would be able to mention one or two?

Maybe?

360 Ceemack  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:32:44pm

What a towering intellect.

361 kansas  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:33:51pm

Has anyone here actually been able to watch the whole thing? Unless this turd is pivoting from left teleprompter to right teleprompter, he's simply awful. Anyone think the MSM will eventually notice this?

362 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:40:18pm
Obama: We're Not, Uh, Vetting The, Uh, Vetters

If this keeps up he's going to throw Eddie Vedder under the bus.

363 Arkay  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:43:45pm

Black liberation, 1955: “I’ll no longer stand at the back of the bus.” - Rosa Parks (to bus driver)

Black liberation, 2008: “I’m throwing you under the bus.” - Senator Obama (to Johnson, Rev. Wright, 9/11 Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, his mother, his wife, his sister, his dog...)

("Illinois Nazis. I HATE Illinois Nazis." - Joliet Jake)

364 RTLM  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:55:46pm

Obama on Countrywide - March, 2008
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Obama, campaigning in Pennsylvania, criticized Countrywide for its role in the subprime mortgage crisis and denounced the millions of dollars the company's top executives will receive even as workers lose pensions and homeowners are forced to sell.

``What's wrong with this picture?'' Obama asked a crowd today in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. ``These are the folks who are responsible for infecting the economy and helping to create a home foreclosure crisis -- 2 million people may end up losing their homes.''

365 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 1:57:08pm

He's sounding more like Clinton all the time:

"Stick with me, sweetie. My triumphs are your triumphs."

366 mean Gene  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:02:49pm

re: #365 LC LaWedgie

He's sounding more like Clinton all the time:

"Stick with me, sweetie. My triumphs are your triumphs."

I'm getting his TR6?
Cool!

367 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:10:44pm

re: #366 mean Gene

Nah, last I heard he has a 300C.

368 onthow  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:11:16pm

After vetting the vetters in the vetters to Eddie Vedder, he will exercise judgment in terms of, uh, who he wants to select as, uh, a vice presidential candidate. You know, just like he, uh, exercised judgment in selecting, uh, rabid, America-hating, Marxist Bill Ayers' home to launch his, uh, political career, and, uh, rabid, America-hating, Marxist Jeremiah Wright as his, uh, pastor and, uh, mentor. You know, uh, like, uh, that.

369 eaglewingz08  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:13:34pm

Ok maybe the veep team is really working for Hillary and Bill?
Maybe not. Then again, this isn't the Jim Johnson that I've known for the past twelve years. We should not be distracted by the gotcha politics of the subprime mess which is Bush's fault not the Obamamessiah's fault.
So Johnson and Holder — two of the three people heading up his VP search committee — aren’t “work”ing for him? I suppose that’s because they’re unpaid, but my stars, that’s a lot of high-level, time-consuming sensitive effort to not be considered “working” for Sen. Obama. Didn't the dems supposedly get rid of the Clinton Restoration for Hope and Change, the Carter/Mondale Restoration?Does it depend on your definition of the word “work”, I suppose. Who does that remind us of?
The McCain campaign calls this “preposterous”:
"It’s preposterous for Senator Obama to claim that the leader of his VP selection committee isn’t working for him. Barack Obama has castigated Countrywide Financial, but now that Jim Johnson has been exposed for taking sweetheart deals from Countrywide’s CEO - Obama is in a state of denial. It’s that brand of weak leadership and hypocrisy that shows why Barack Obama has no record of taking courageous stands or making change in Washington."
Maybe Barack's Middle Name begins with S, BS for short.

370 mich-again  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:17:41pm

Ohhh, You vetter watch out!
You vetter not cry.
You vetter not pout, I'm telling you why.
Obama's flaws are coming to town.

371 ronpaulblimpie  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:30:45pm

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

Obama Admits Smoking Cigarettes in Last Few Months

I wonder if they were Kool or Newport cigarettes.

372 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:41:10pm

How can he possibly say they are not working for him?

373 LeonidasOfSparta  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 2:56:24pm

re: #370 mich-again

lol

374 wong fei hung  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 3:12:51pm

Charles:

You're being too hard on Sen. Obama.

He's been out distributing fish and loaves of bread, as well as healing the sick and lame all day.

Cut him some slack :(

-WFH

375 LeonidasOfSparta  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 4:14:40pm

this is not the Jim Johnson I knew
this is not the Countrywide I knew

Next he's going to ask for the definition of "yes."

The man is a walking KNOW-nothing, blow-hard, whining maggot with a messiah complex.

376 LeonidasOfSparta  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 4:19:11pm

"I will then exercise judgement to choose my running mate"?

WHAT judgement?

He can't find his ass in the dark with a spotlight and 50 people HELPING him. What kind of judgement has he already shown? Not good judgement by ANYONE's standards if the MSN SLATE (reknowned loonyliberal bastian) has just thrown his choice of Johnson under the proverbial bus (with his own grandma and many others...isn't it getting kinda crowded under there? how in the heck does the bus roll on down the line with all them folks under it?)

377 rorschach  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 6:31:11pm

obama is in w-a-a-a-y over his head.

...as well as being an utter fraud.

378 nadadhimmi  Tue, Jun 10, 2008 6:35:37pm

Good God!, off script this motherfucker is more incoherent than Bush!


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