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Wednesday Early Morning Open

Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:12:09 am PDT

The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind.

— William Blake

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1 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:06am

Does this mean LGF's habitat is standing water?

2 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:15:13am

re: #1 laZardo

Nope, but it might explain dailyKos and such like.

/I think the quote would work better using pond scum.

3 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:15:52am

re: #1 laZardo

Does this mean LGF's habitat is standing water?

No- we're reptiles of the interweb.

4 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:16:05am

how will the upcoming threads help the children of the ongoing lizard baby boom?

5 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:16:35am

re: #2 BlueCanuck

re: #3 Sharmuta

Points made.

6 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:16:51am

re: #1 laZardo

Does this mean LGF's habitat is standing water?

We alter our opinions all the time :) Just not about Obama. And a few other things.

7 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:17:38am

re: #4 redc1c4

how will the upcoming threads help the children of the ongoing lizard baby boom?

More to the point, what things will they include that simply must not be discussed because of Barrack Hussein Obama's children?

8 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:18:43am

re: #4 redc1c4

how will the upcoming threads help the children of the ongoing lizard baby boom?

I have never in my adult life been proud to be a Lizard until that comment.

9 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:18am

re: #1 laZardo

Does this mean LGF's habitat is standing water?

I'd also like to point out that standing water is stagnant- that's far from LGF.

10 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:28am

re: #7 galloping granny

More to the point, what things will they include that simply must not be discussed because of Barrack Hussein Obama's children?

i'm more concerned with your triplets...... and how we're going to w*rk them into the story line.

/damn writers strike

11 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:54am

re: #10 redc1c4

i'm more concerned with your triplets...... and how we're going to w*rk them into the story line.

/damn writers strike

Triplets? I thought they were Quads?

/flexible plotlines.

12 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:22:35am

re: #10 redc1c4

i'm more concerned with your triplets...... and how we're going to w*rk them into the story line.

/damn writers strike

ROFL!

13 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:23:01am

Lots of interesting quotes attributed to William Blake. One to ponder, especially while eating your waffles, is:

Every harlot was a virgin once.

14 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:24:00am

re: #13 freetoken

Lots of interesting quotes attributed to William Blake. One to ponder, especially while eating your waffles, is:

every Blake was a black magician once.
And an idiot.

15 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:37am

re: #13 freetoken

Your icon is great! lol
Superbama!

16 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:40am

Good morning, LGF!

17 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:46am
Every harlot was a virgin once.

Do I hear quintuplets?

/going once....going twice...

18 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:24am

re: #10 redc1c4

i'm more concerned with your triplets...... and how we're going to w*rk them into the story line.

/damn writers strike

I refuse to have triplets unless I get a nanny for each of them

19 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:39am

re: #17 littleoldlady

Do I hear quintuplets?

/going once....going twice...

Hahahahaha.

/Can't count pass five.
Fortunately!

20 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:07am

re: #15 MigueldowninMexico

Hey, you noticed.

21 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:10am

re: #17 littleoldlady

Do I hear quintuplets?

/going once....going twice...

Hahahaha
Christy's!

22 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:20am

So this is what the early morning thread looks like...good morning all.

23 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:29am

re: #9 Sharmuta

I'd also like to point out that standing water is stagnant- that's far from LGF.

yup: i've never seen any skeeters here, but we can sure keep up the skeer.

24 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:13am

re: #17 littleoldlady

Do I hear quintuplets?

/going once....going twice...

going for broke?

25 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:26am

re: #22 gibsonz

You just happened to hit on a good unusual day! ;-)

gibsonz! :-)

26 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:55am

re: #18 galloping granny

I refuse to have triplets unless I get a nanny for each of them

would they have to be galloping nannys?

27 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:00am

re: #20 freetoken

Hey, you noticed.

It's the new wave
For a 60 year old, feels like deja vu.

The Age of Obamaurus is here!
Crystal Blue Persuasion and the Moon is in the 7th house and all the bi BS reloaded.

Brace yourselves from here to Nov.

28 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:22am

re: #18 galloping granny

I refuse to have triplets unless I get a nanny for each of them

You're smart! LOL

29 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:23am

re: #9 Sharmuta

I'd also like to point out that standing water is stagnant- that's far from LGF.

Anyway, "lizards" is just what the natives called us. The truth is far stranger.

30 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:28am

re: #25 littleoldlady

We call it the silly hour where I come from.

/sometimes lasts longer then that.

31 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:48am

re: #22 gibsonz

So this is what the early morning thread looks like...good morning all.

Hey gibsonz. Welcome to the morning after.

32 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:28am

It takes a Dead thread to raise a village...

/tips coffee cup & hat to Hillary

33 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:30am

re: #25 littleoldlady

Wonder what`s gonna fall out of Obama`s closet today and wind up under the bus.

34 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:38am

re: #25 littleoldlady

You just happened to hit on a good unusual day! ;-)

gibsonz! :-)

yup: the fruit cup was evidently contaminated with a powerful fertility drug, and the subsequent pregnancies are causing some confusion....

/blame LoL

35 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:39am

re: #27 MigueldowninMexico

The Age of Obamaurus is here!
Crystal Blue Persuasion and the Moon is in the 7th house and all the bi BS reloaded.

Hey! How can you do a astrological chart on The Obama?
(You've got his birth certificate, haven't you?)

36 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:57am

re: #34 redc1c4

"Go ahead. Blame the Jew."

© MeanNastyTeenager

37 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:02am

re: #31 AmeriDan

Hey gibsonz. Welcome to the morning after.
-------
Thank you!

38 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:24am

Time to head home from internship. z_z

In the meantime, have a Little Green Footballer.

/bbl today, hopefully.

39 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:36am

re: #31 AmeriDan

Hey gibsonz. Welcome to the morning after.

one tin soldier rides away......

40 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:47am

re: #32 littleoldlady

It takes a Dead thread to raise a village...

/tips coffee cup & hat to Hillary

Hey, they new trend is; "It takes a commune to raise a child"

41 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:34:08am

re: #33 gibsonz

Wonder what`s gonna fall out of Obama`s closet today and wind up under the bus.

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?

42 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:02am

re: #27 MigueldowninMexico

It's the new wave
For a 60 year old, feels like deja vu.

The Age of Obamaurus is here!

43 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:10am

re: #35 Dar ul Harb

Hey! How can you do a astrological chart on The Obama?
(You've got his birth certificate, haven't you?)

The astrologers are all having fits because they cannot do an astrological chart because they don't know what time he was born.

/And then there is the question of where. . . . .

44 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:34am

re: #42 freetoken

That's exactly it! Reloaded.

45 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:53am

re: #41 galloping granny

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?

Hahaha. That's right!

46 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:58am

re: #36 littleoldlady

"Go ahead. Blame the Jew."

© MeanNastyTeenager

i read a novel one time where a main character wore the Star, even though he was goyim.... when asked why, he told the other character (more or less) "we're all Jewish, it's just that most of our parents figured we had enough problems without telling us that too."

/blame it on the bosa nova

47 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:19am

re: #41 galloping granny

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?
--------
He is going to have to call Ray Nagin,he has plenty of unused busses.

48 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:44am

re: #41 galloping granny

Nope, I think he has one ordered special for his campaign.

/with keelhauling winches as a special upgrade.

49 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:37:49am

re: #47 gibsonz

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?
--------
He is going to have to call Ray Nagin,he has plenty of unused busses.

Good idea!

The chocolate buses!
Throw dead weight under them.

50 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:05am

re: #32 littleoldlady

It takes a Dead thread to raise a village...

/tips coffee cup & hat to Hillary

did someone say "Dead Thread"?

51 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:41am

re: #48 BlueCanuck

Nope, I think he has one ordered special for his campaign.

/with keelhauling wenches as a special upgrade.

/Clinton version

52 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:30am
53 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:46am

Talking about LA.

McCain/Jindal 08!

54 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:56am

re: #51 redc1c4

Well it depends on which Clinton is driving.

/I don't think slick willy would be doing any keel hauling.
//would be doing a different kinda hauling.

55 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:21am

And here it is...my 500th post...about as informative as the other 499!

56 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:22am

Did someone say CHOCOLATE?!

57 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:41:24am

Just found this over at HotAir (sometimes I wonder if he supports Obama) -

Presumably, the schools that Obama attended in Hawaii and later in the US would have seen his birth certificate during the enrollment process,

Nope, I bet they would not have done. I transferred schools a lot as a kid, mine have all been to several and the only thing the new school ever asks for or gets is a copy of the previous school records. Had to produce a birth certificate only for kindergarten. For that matter, we didn't have my granddaughter's handy for kindergarten and the school took our notarized statement re her birthday.

58 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:41:35am

re: #47 gibsonz

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?
--------
He is going to have to call Ray Nagin,he has plenty of unused busses.

i was thinking he might need to get the folks that made Bigfoot to make his campaign bus.

59 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:41:51am

re: #56 littleoldlady

Did someone say CHOCOLATE?!

Hahahaha!
Me.

What a song LoL, bringing me back in time!

60 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:42:20am

re: #59 MigueldowninMexico

/drooling!

THANKS! :-)

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:42:28am
62 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:42:41am
63 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:43:01am

re: #52 littleoldlady

The irony of course with that song is that the rhythm is hardly bossa nova... Nevertheless, Eydie had such as beautiful voice - I like many of her later recordings.

64 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:43:19am

re: #52 littleoldlady

I didn't realize you were that OLD!

i'm not..... besides: i'm immature for my age.

/parts of me, however, are ancient. %-)

65 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:43:25am

re: #60 littleoldlady

/drooling!

THANKS! :-)

Sure! ;)

66 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:43:54am

re: #41 galloping granny

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?

Will this help?

67 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:01am

re: #66 Dar ul Harb

Will this help?

And wait. He's picking Ron Paul as VP...

68 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:57am
reptiles of the mind

I bet Bear Grylls would eat it.

69 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:05am
70 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:17am

re: #41 galloping granny

He's starting to need a really BIG bus. Do they come in 18-wheeler versions?

Well, here you go!

Problem solved!

71 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:34am

Paulian, Obamanians, Pelosis, Clintonians,
They're all waiting for a sign ($) that goes with their own sign ($) of the Zoodiac (politics.

72 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:43am

re: #63 freetoken

You're old, too?

73 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:49:11am

re: #13 freetoken

Every harlot was a virgin once.

Once is all it takes.

74 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:51:03am

re: #70 Dar ul Harb

Well, here you go!

Problem solved!

I think I found his bus. ;)

/just remembered watching this movie on late night cable.

75 rightside  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:51:03am

Morning Lizards!

76 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:51:46am

I'm on the brink of bailing out.

In 10 minutes my train leaves the station.
I plan to be under it.

77 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:52:13am

re: #70 Dar ul Harb

Well, here you go!

Problem solved!

That might do - for now.

78 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:52:18am

re: #75 rightside

Morning Lizards!

Good morning, rightside!

79 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:52:27am

re: #72 littleoldlady

Ah... such a classic tune... but no, I don't date from the era of the gramophone!

80 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:52:33am

re: #75 rightside

Morning Lizards!

You're late rightside!

81 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:22am

re: #73 vbspurs

Once is all it takes.

Unless you visit Mexico. I hear that hopping over the border to have your virginity restored has become all the rage. And vital if you're muslim.

82 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:28am

re: #75 rightside

Morning rightside. Starting the caffination process?

83 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:58am

Two questions for English speakers.
I thanks answers in advance.
1.- The plural of life is "lives" or lifes"?

"In the brink" or "on the brink"?

Heh.

84 rightside  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:54:08am

re: #80 galloping granny

I am working midnight shift, and arrive home about now, so, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

85 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:54:12am

re: #76 MigueldowninMexico

Choo choo?

Well, I too
must bid adieu
Just give me,
tea for two....

86 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:54:55am

re: #83 MigueldowninMexico

You're not an English speaker?!

/since when?

87 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:06am

re: #85 freetoken

Choo choo?

Well, I too
must bid adieu
Just give me,
tea for two....

Well you do!

88 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:06am

re: #83 MigueldowninMexico

plural of life is lives, and it's on the brink.

/in the brink might be a slurring of in the drink though. ;)

89 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:20am

re: #86 littleoldlady

You're not an English speaker?!

/since when?

Since I was born ;)

90 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:33am

campaign slogan that just came to mind, listening to Brooks & Dunn:

"If you really believed in America, you could never believe Obama."

/obviously time for me to hit it.....

L8r

91 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:36am

re: #83 MigueldowninMexico

Two questions for English speakers.
I thanks answers in advance.
1.- The plural of life is "lives" or lifes"?

"In the brink" or "on the brink"?

Heh.

The plural of life is lives. Usually on the brink. Brink means edge.

92 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:51am

re: #89 MigueldowninMexico

FABULOUS! I finally understand Spanish!

93 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:00am

re: #88 BlueCanuck

plural of life is lives, and it's on the brink.

/in the brink might be a slurring of in the drink though. ;)

Haha.
Thanks, Blue! :)

94 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:30am

re: #84 rightside

I am working midnight shift, and arrive home about now, so, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

I guess you're excused then :) I kinda miss your "first" on this thread though.

95 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:31am

re: #83 MigueldowninMexico

Two questions for English speakers.
I thanks answers in advance.
1.- The plural of life is "lives" or lifes"?

"In the brink" or "on the brink"?

Heh.


no habla

96 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:06am

re: #91 galloping granny

The plural of life is lives. Usually on the brink. Brink means edge.

Thanks, Granny! :)

97 little blessing  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:11am

re: #90 redc1c4

I like it.

98 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:11am

re: #81 galloping granny

Unless you visit Mexico. I hear that hopping over the border to have your virginity restored has become all the rage. And vital if you're muslim.

I believe the Brazilian plastic surgeon, Dr. 90210 Rey, did them for his E! show.

/sad, but happy I'm not part of such a culture

99 freetoken  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:26am

re: #91 galloping granny

However, there is the phrase "in the clink", where "clink" is a synonym for prison. Perhaps that is something Miguel has heard before.

Good night everybody....

100 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:45am

Work.

/feh. :-/

Good day, ALL!™

101 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:47am

re: #92 littleoldlady

FABULOUS! I finally understand Spanish!

Sí, pequeña dama viejita.

102 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:58:25am

re: #69 redc1c4

where the Stars & Stripes, and the eagle flies......... only in America.

You are a redneck! Will you please bear my child?

/Heh, that will confuse all of the "sleepers of the night" whom should be assured that it's not a brokeback Lizard type thing.

/ya had to be there

103 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:58:46am

re: #99 freetoken

However, there is the phrase "in the clink", where "clink" is a synonym for prison. Perhaps that is something Miguel has heard before.

Good night everybody....

Very true. Night freetoken!

104 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:58:54am

re: #99 freetoken

I think I have, but I wasn't there...yet lol

Thanks :)

105 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:59:23am

Well see you all next time red, freetoken, and littleoldlady.

/*sigh* an hour to go in the salt mines.

106 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:59:43am

re: #101 MigueldowninMexico

pequeña dama viejita.

Or, PetiteVieuxDame?

/Sock Puppets 'R Us

*p00f!*

107 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:00:02am

re: #102 AmeriDan

You are a redneck! Will you please bear my child?

This is one of my favourite songs. :)

/is far from being a redneck girl.

108 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:00:07am

re: #100 littleoldlady

Work.

/feh. :-/

Good day, ALL!™

Four-letter word!

Feh.
Bye LoL, have a great day!

109 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:00:22am

re: #106 littleoldlady

Or, PetiteVieuxDame?

/Sock Puppets 'R Us

*p00f!*

Oui! ;)

110 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:01:09am

re: #106 littleoldlady

Or, PetiteVieuxDame?

Vieille.

/siren, language police, please pull over ma'am.

111 little blessing  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:01:48am

re: #108 MigueldowninMexico

Bye LOL!

Hope to see you tomorrow!

112 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:02:03am

re: #110 vbspurs

Vieille.

/siren, language police, please pull over ma'am.

Hahahaha

113 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:02:20am

re: #107 vbspurs

This is one of my favourite songs. :)

/is far from being a redneck girl.

Oh heck yeah! Now we're jammin.

114 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:02:48am

re: #110 vbspurs

Vieille.

/siren, language police, please pull over ma'am.

Honestly officer, we thought bad grammar was the proper way to speak. ;)

115 yochanan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:03:04am

re: #28 MigueldowninMexico

twins were hard enough esp since we also had a son who was 2 years old when the twins were born. so almost triplets

116 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:03:25am

re: #115 yochanan

twins were hard enough esp since we also had a son who was 2 years old when the twins were born. so almost triplets

When was this, yoch?

117 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:04:42am

re: #113 AmeriDan

Oh heck yeah! Now we're jammin.

Cause I'm a redneck woman
And I ain't no high class broad
I'm just a product of my raisin'
And I say "hey y'all" and "Yee Haw"
And I keep my Christmas lights on, on my front porch all year long
And I know all the words to every Charlie Daniels song
So here's to all my sisters out there keepin' it country
Let me get a big "Hell Yeah" from the redneck girls like me
Hell Yeah
Hell Yeah

/swings from side to side

118 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:05:07am

Gotta go now.
Hope to see all the great lizards tomorrow ;)

119 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:06:51am

Night Miguel, drop by sooner next time for all the shenanigans.

/might get a walk on for the telenovella.

120 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:45am

Bombshell -

But according to a passing reference in a profile in The New Republic last year, Pastor Wright was himself a Muslim convert to Christianity. He seems to have moved from being a Muslim black power fanatic to a Christian black power fanatic – which might go some way to explaining his close affinity to the Muslim black power ideologue Louis Farrakhan.

[Link: www.spectator.co.uk...]

121 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:24am

for some reason I have this in my head at the moment:
Nancy Griffith

122 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:35am

re: #90 redc1c4


campaign slogan that just came to mind, listening to Brooks & Dunn:

"If you really believed in America, you could never believe Obama."

/obviously time for me to hit it.....

L8r

G'nite Red, I am jumping out too.

But before I go, can I tweak that quote just a little (or a lot)?

"If you really LOVE America, why would you want to CHANGE America?

123 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:31am

re: #117 vbspurs

/swings from side to side

*swoons*

*drinks beer*

*swoons again*

You may deny your redneck side... but I bet you're a cowgirl.

124 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:28am

re: #120 galloping granny

Bombshell -

[Link: www.spectator.co.uk...]

GOOD GRIEF! Thank God for Mel Phillips.

Steve in San Diego (sounds like a wonderful member of this community) rebuts about the LGF slurs in the Blogosphere:

It wasn't mere comments that are the real problem with the Obama web site; comments can be left by anyone. Rather, the problem is the *blogs* that were created there. The Obama site states that blogs will be reviewed, and only put up after they are approved by administrators. Either that's simply not true (problem) or site administrtors thought the nasty blogs were just fine (bigger problem).

Note also that this crap has been posted there for months.

FYI, mislabeling the blogs in question as just "comments" is a damage-control falsehood currently being used by Obama supporters. It was a lot more than just some comments.

Thank you for your time.

125 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:57am

re: #123 AmeriDan

but I bet you're a cowgirl.

Ooh! I love George Strait too. ;)

/redneck boys are lovely.

126 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:13am
127 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:15am

re: #125 vbspurs

Ooh! I love George Strait too. ;)

/redneck boys are lovely.

I'm lost in this moment.

128 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:27am

re: #124 vbspurs

GOOD GRIEF! Thank God for Mel Phillips.

Sure does explain that statement from Trinity to someone a while back that there are "lots of muslims here" doesn't it?

129 yochanan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:48am

re: #69 redc1c4

where the Stars & Stripes, and the eagle flies......... only in America.

thanks for the links red, I was that boy by the fence when his daddy went off to serve his country.

130 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:23:19am

re: #128 galloping granny

Sure does explain that statement from Trinity to someone a while back that there are "lots of muslims here" doesn't it?

Oh I didn't hear about that one. Let me Google after my shower. Thanks GG!

/waves goodbye to AmeriDan shyly

131 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:26:37am
132 yochanan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:26:51am

re: #116 MigueldowninMexico

23 years ago

133 jcbunga  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:26:54am

In the category of "How's that workin' out for ya?", here's a fond look back to October 2004 with the Kerry/Bush election campaign in its final stages:

"Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands, and any U.S. state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security."--OBL

God bless the troops and the STFU smackdown they've been laying on the bad guys. All volunteers. The best the planet has ever seen.

134 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:28:51am

re: #130 vbspurs

Oh I didn't hear about that one. Let me Google after my shower. Thanks GG!

/waves goodbye to AmeriDan shyly

Enjoy your shower vbspurs. I'll talk to you later, I hope. Have a wonderful day.

/trying not to think about vbspurs in the shower.

135 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:31:30am

re: #134 AmeriDan

Enjoy your shower vbspurs. I'll talk to you later, I hope. Have a wonderful day.

/trying not to think about vbspurs in the shower.

Not working, I may lose my Southern Gentleman accreditation over this.

136 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:34:18am

re: #135 AmeriDan

May I suggest a cold shower yourself? :)

/does wonders for me when I need it.
//if unable to shower I recommend an ice pack.

137 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:38:44am

re: #136 BlueCanuck

May I suggest a cold shower yourself? :)

/does wonders for me when I need it.
//if unable to shower I recommend an ice pack.

Heh.

138 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:38:51am

Well, I've had my two cups of coffee and can't put it off any longer. Time to go hoe. Later - have a good one.

139 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:39:23am

Good morning lizards, 62 degrees and sunny along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

Hows' everyone?

140 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:39:43am

re: #138 galloping granny

Well, I've had my two cups of coffee and can't put it off any longer. Time to go hoe. Later - have a good one.

Goodbye Granny, have a great day.

141 Macker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:40:01am

Time for me to hit the shower. Good Morning Lizards!

142 Macker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:41:06am

re: #139 Irish Rose

Good morning lizards, 62 degrees and sunny along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

Hows' everyone?

Hey what part of the shoreline. I "hailed" from South Haven, MI when I was growing up...the getaway spot for lots of Chicagoans!

143 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:41:46am

Irish insight?


The Irish are such clear thinkers.

An e-mail forwarded by somebody who received it from
kin in the olde sod:

'We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you in the US
are even bothering to hold an election.

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married
to a lawyer, running against a lawyer who is married
to a bitch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a war hero married to a
good looking woman who owns a beer distributorship.

144 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:42:44am

re: #139 Irish Rose

Good morning lizards, 62 degrees and sunny along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

Hows' everyone?

Morning Rose. You're just in time for the shift change.

Sorry about the mess we left.

/off to a cold shower

145 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:44:02am

re: #142 Macker

Hey what part of the shoreline. I "hailed" from South Haven, MI when I was growing up...the getaway spot for lots of Chicagoans!

Grand Haven.

146 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:44:03am

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75
> year old Texas rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working
> cattle, the doctor struck up a
>
> conversation with the old man.
> Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our
> President.
>
>
> The old rancher said,
>
> 'Well, ya know, Obama is a 'post
> turtle'.'
>
> Not being familiar with the term, the
> doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was. The old rancher said,
>
>
> 'When you're driving down a country road
> and you
>
> come across a fence post with a turtle
> balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.'
>
> The old rancher saw a puzzled look on
> the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.
>
> 'You know he didn't get up there by
> himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he
> is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up; there to begin with.'
>

147 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:44:56am

Night granny, have fun in the garden.

And it's time for me to ride into the sunrise as well. Night/morning all that's left.

148 Averybadman  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:48:04am

Ahhhh. Sip my first cup 'o joe, check the mail, log into LGF (now that I finally have an account after trying for a year!)...and check the morning thread.

Almost down to 30 days before the plane leaves for the dry, dusty place between the Tigris and Euphrates. What to do with my remaining time? Excepting for the following planned activities:
1. Scuba trip for 2 days diving with my son in NC.
2. Whitewater weekend in WV with the whole family (Averybadmama, Averybadgirl, and Averybadboy).
3. Leave detailed computer maintenance instructions for Averybadmama -- the self-proclaimed "techno-Neanderthal."
4. Wash, wax and tune up all cars.
5. Set nefarious plans in motion to piss off Averybadcat while I'm gone. Mean b_____d, he is!

I'm taking suggestions. Good morning all.

149 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:49:17am

JamesTKirk has a hidden agenda...

150 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:56:44am

Good morning all Y'all - from a very warm (74 degrees, going up to 91 degrees) muggy and overcast Charlotte!
*Yawn* (excuse me!) - not used to being up and on LGF at this hour but have appoitments and chores to do early today!
How is everyone this fine morning?

151 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:58:27am

re: #150 realwest

Good morning all Y'all - from a very warm (74 degrees, going up to 91 degrees) muggy and overcast Charlotte!
*Yawn* (excuse me!) - not used to being up and on LGF at this hour but have appoitments and chores to do early today!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Fine as frog hair, Real. Howbotchaownself?

152 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:58:49am

Holy cats! I just looked at the time/date stamp of this thread and Charles put it up at like 3:12 AM his time!
Does Sir Charles EVER sleep?!

153 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:00:06am

re: #151 razorbacker
Well, other than not really being awake, I guess I'm as fine as fresh spun cotton candy (h/t Mandy Manners)!
Glad to hear you're doing well today.

154 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:00:59am

Morning Lizards, I'm waiting for my coffee... half way through a long stretch... day 9 of working 18 in a row (ack).


It's hot, damn hot... 77 at 7am here in NW FL and thank God for air conditioning.

155 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:01:20am

re: #152 realwest

I think it's a bot. The alternative is too mind wobbling. he knows when you've been sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake

156 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:02:23am

re: #148 Averybadman

It took me two years before I caught an open registration and was able to open an account. Welcome.

157 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:02:41am

re: #154 The Albatross
Hey there - good morning to you! 77 degrees already in NW Florida?!? And how come you're working 18 days in a row?

158 slartybartfast  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:02:57am

Good morning, Lizards!

FYI, BHO's campaign is operating a Push-Poll in Georgia--telephone poll last night (example "question"):

Q: What do you think about Barak Obama's position on abortion? You know, John McCain is Pro-Life and he will work to stop all abortions. Barak Obama is leaving the choice up to the woman...

159 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:04:05am

re: #155 razorbacker
ROFL! Yes, I reckon it might be a bot - that or, and I hope this is the answer, Charles gets to nap for a couple hours everyday!

160 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:05:18am

Aggggh - I gotta go get started on those appoitments and what not.
I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

161 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:05:56am

Mornin' all. So the obamamaniacs have woke up to the fact their messiahs web site is full of vile shit and it isn't the VRWC doing it. Buncha loons.

162 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:06:58am

re: #157 realwest

Took a dive and had to step down from management at the Y... picked up to private clients, and am working part time at the front desk (I'm allergic to the building and immunotherapy is making it much worse before it gets better)... plus I'm still the certified pool operator for that pool and private swim lessons.

I need 70 hours a week to pay for the difference in my medical.

But hey, life's an adventure!

I have a 9 to 3 today... that's as close as I get to a day off.

163 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:08:16am

I'm not going anywhere until I get my first cup of coffee.

Have a great day Realwest!

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:10:29am

Haven't altered my opinion that Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorism must be destroyed. Does that make me a Lizard?

165 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:10:35am

re: #161 pingjockey

Met a moonbat at the Y... going on about universal healthcare and how Obama was going to change everything. I am ashamed to say that I was speechless. Since I was on the job I just let her go with a quiet nod and tight lipped grin.... thinking "not if I can help it".

166 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:11:07am

Good Lord! Can't anybody on tv or congress read a frackin' dictionary and look up the definition of "windfall profits".

167 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:11:16am

I was wandering about these intranut tubes this morning and realized that in at least one way, this virtual world is far superior than the 'real' world.

If something offends you on the intranut, *click* and it's gone.

That pesky old World V.1.0 requires you to actually deal with the problem.

I'm going off to deal with a leaky window. 'Cause if it leaks a mite in the winter you can always throw another log on the fire, but if it leaks in the summer you're burning precious air conditioning, and that there electricity is expensive.

168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:12:30am

re: #167 razorbacker

Hey, I sell windows. Can I give ya a hand?

169 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:13:02am

re: #158 slartybartfast

Good morning, Lizards!

FYI, BHO's campaign is operating a Push-Poll in Georgia--telephone poll last night (example "question"):

Q: What do you think about Barak Obama's position on abortion? You know, John McCain is Pro-Life and he will work to stop all abortions. Barak Obama is leaving the choice up to the woman...

Hell, you can't go lettin' them uppity wimmin' make choices about their own bodies now can you? Whatatheythink they own them things?

McCain going to hunt down all them wimmins who has ever had abortions and send them to prison, is he, none of this foolin' around with them doctors? Then think about how grateful their families will be.

Millions of families.

Go ahead. It's the only "right thing to do" if you believe it's "murder". Be consistent. If all those women are "murderers", jail them.

I may have to vote for him but nothing says I can't be sarcastic about it.

170 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:14:51am

Uh oh! Chuck Norris is calling for folks to sign petitions to drill in the US now. Maybe he can smack some sense into some congress critters. Haha! I have this absurd image of a kung fu flick, bad sound and all with Chuck in the House chamber delivering Moe like slaps to foreheads of Chucky Schumer, Pelosi, etc...

171 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:15:05am

I have to share an interesting tidbit with the lizards this morning.

I've been sorting through the last of the boxes that I have from my mothers' estate, and came across a stack of old magazines last week. Mom was an old-school Democrat, and she had a blind spot for the Kennedy family like most people did in those days. Among her belongings I found the original Life, Saturday Evening Post, and Newsweek Kennedy assassination editions and my mothers' scrapbook containing every single news clip about JFKs' assassination and the Johnson transition that she could find.

Also something really amazing, the inaugural edition of Newsweek magazine dated Feb 17, 1933 in near perfect condition.

Flipping through this magazine is like taking a walk back in history. This was printed during the great depression. It has a number of fascinating news reports pertaining to pre-war Nazi Germany and Hitlers' rise to power. Also newsclips about Roosevelts' election, the Lindbergh family, and Joseph Stalin. Photos of Hitler as a child and Vincent Astor holding a pair of "pet" penguins, and some discussion also about depression-era culture and the entertainment industry.

Also a long article about the depression-era mortgage crisis that looks uneasily familiar.

Accompanying a photo of a bunch of men in hats standing around a noose smiling, this:

The spectre of the auctioneer stalks throughout the land, haunting debtors in the city, town and country.

Next to life itself, a home is mans' most prized possession. To save it, rugged individualism has grown gregarious, and harried citizens are banding against foreclosure.

Some are violent, grimly taking the law into their own hands. This was the case last week in many Mid-west States, where fulminating farmers have for two months been staging minor insurrections. Near auction blocks, they hung threatening nooses, rolled foreclosure agents in the snow or forcibly rushed them from the scene.

Then they held a "penny sale", bidding in foreclosed property worth $2,000 and more for only 2$ and some odd cents.

Neighbors helping neighbors.

Pretty amazing look at history.

172 Karridine  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:15:22am

re: #167 razorbacker

Yup. If someone criticizes my anti-Jew, anti-American blogpost, I just DELete it, and those Rethuglicans and 'patriots' will get off my back...

/works for Kos and Obama

173 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:16:50am

re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, run down to the hardware store and pick up a tube of clear silicone caulk.

And kindly explain to my dear wife the difference between 'good enough' and 'perfect'.

You'd think after all these years dealing with me, she'd be able to bear any slight problem with aplomb. But hope springs eternal, or so I've heard.

174 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:17:05am

re: #159 realwest

ROFL! Yes, I reckon it might be a bot - that or, and I hope this is the answer, Charles gets to nap for a couple hours everyday!

It's the LGF autopilot.

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:19:49am

re: #171 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose!

Farmers threatening to string up auctioneers...how sweet. Newsweek hasn't changed much, has it?

176 Gharqad  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:19:50am

re: #174 Dar ul Harb

Surely you can't be serious.

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:20:47am

re: #173 razorbacker

Eventually, she'll come around.

Not really.

178 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:21:08am

re: #176 Gharqad

Surely you can't be serious.

I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.

179 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:21:40am

Karridine...
Are you still there?


Turns out I'm in your neighborhood (50 miles away) right now

180 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:22:07am

re: #173 razorbacker

Heh. Tell your wife that at least you didn't lay a tile floor last week with two different lots of the same tile without mixing them up. I've got a sunroom with a diagonal pattern across the room, with half the tile lighter than the other. All I can do is accept it or bust it out and have the old man do it again.

He was so stiff and sore by the time he finished, I didn't have the heart to tell him it really pissed me off and is bothering the heck out of me. Sheepishly (when he saw the look on my face) he told me the furniture would cover most of it up. I saw how tired he was, I just told him "stuff happens" and told him to go have a long hot shower.

The problem? I got no furniture for that room.... yet.

181 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:22:57am

re: #171 Irish Rose
Finding stuff like that is pretty cool. We had a table from great grandma, and underneath the oil cloth cover was a canvas Standard Oil banner from the 30s and under that a buncha newspapers from the same era. One was a years retrospective in pictures. Dillinger killed, a buncha pics of Hollywood folks. Just fantastic stuff.

182 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:24:22am

Irish Rose, my husbands grandmother collected Life magazines for all her children's birthdays, my husband has his June 1965 and it's in great condition as well.

183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:24:45am

re: #180 The Albatross

That's the kind of thing that you make a contractor tear out and re-do. When it's family, you look at it fondly. At least that's the way it should be.

My wife'd make me tear it out and re-do it.

But I'm not bitter.

184 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:24:45am

Good morning Lizards..............

185 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:25:16am

DG!

186 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:26:13am

re: #185 pingjockey

DG!

Morning ping...........

187 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:26:42am

re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's the kind of thing that you make a contractor tear out and re-do. When it's family, you look at it fondly. At least that's the way it should be.

My wife'd make me tear it out and re-do it.

But I'm not bitter.

Sure you're not...............ROTFLMAO................

188 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:27:20am

re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh, my husband IS a contractor. But he works so hard at work, when he needs to do for our home... things mess up. This time he laid the floor in the late afternoon and evening without turning the light on.

Ah, well.

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:27:31am

Hey Dorian! What's Shakin?

(All four cheeks and a couple'a chins. Norm Peterson, Cheers)

190 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:27:51am

re: #186 doriangrey
We might get to 75 degrees today and maybe 80 by the weekend. Crazy damn weather. There was 2 ft, yes 2ft of snow in some parts of the Cascades in the last 2 days.

191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:28:27am

re: #190 pingjockey

Hotter than a 5.00 pistol here.

192 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:28:49am

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing a Milk Bone suit."

193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:29:21am

re: #192 pingjockey

Gosh I loved Norm.

194 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:29:30am

re: #180 The Albatross

Don't get me started. Finally finished the first bath. Got the tile all nice and pretty in the shower, tasteful coordinating but subtle contrast (or so it's been described for me, looks like the factory goofed to me) transition to the floor.

Walls skim coated and painted, trim up, every leak hunted down and eradicated like it was the last remaining smallpox carrier.

So she looks at it and says, "Pretty".
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
"I think I'll paint stripes on the wall. That'll be different."

195 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:30:29am

re: #191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The east side of the Rockies to the Atlantic has been getting slammed. If it ain't heat it's floods, if it ain't floods it's tornados. We are pretty good up here in the NW. Occasional volcano, forest fire.

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:32:07am

re: #195 pingjockey

Just laughed out loud too hard for tawdry initials.

197 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:32:29am

re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
TV Guide or somebody did Norms bar tab and beer consuption based on an average of beers consumed during an episode. The tab looked like a small nations debt and the beer intake would've took the output of a medium sized brewery!

198 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:32:45am

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Dorian! What's Shakin?

(All four cheeks and a couple'a chins. Norm Peterson, Cheers)

re: #190 pingjockey

We might get to 75 degrees today and maybe 80 by the weekend. Crazy damn weather. There was 2 ft, yes 2ft of snow in some parts of the Cascades in the last 2 days.

Heh heh heh what can I say, it's damned tough living in paradise. Been a lovely 74 degree's pretty much all month, rained a couple of times....

199 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:33:35am

re: #198 doriangrey
Glad ya got some rain. Wasn't it really dry down there?

200 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:33:46am

re: #197 pingjockey

TV Guide or somebody did Norms bar tab and beer consuption based on an average of beers consumed during an episode. The tab looked like a small nations debt and the beer intake would've took the output of a medium sized brewery!

Hey... I resemble that..........................

201 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:34:00am

I miss the Cascades... haven't been back since 2001. That's the longest I've been away. I used to go at least every other year. Got no family there now though (big sigh).

202 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:34:40am

re: #201 The Albatross
Well, crap.

203 slartybartfast  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:34:56am

re: #169 infidelia

Hell, you can't go lettin' them uppity wimmin' make choices about their own bodies now can you? Whatatheythink they own them things?

McCain going to hunt down all them wimmins who has ever had abortions and send them to prison, is he, none of this foolin' around with them doctors? Then think about how grateful their families will be.

Millions of families.

Go ahead. It's the only "right thing to do" if you believe it's "murder". Be consistent. If all those women are "murderers", jail them.

I may have to vote for him but nothing says I can't be sarcastic about it.

This pretty much sums up BHO's views on abortion (political humor at Townhall.com).

204 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:35:21am

re: #199 pingjockey

Glad ya got some rain. Wasn't it really dry down there?

Yup.... Been really dry for the last 25 years or so. But then again we have a 60 year weather cycle, 30 years dry, 30 years wet. Just starting to go into the 30 year wet cycle.

205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:35:34am

re: #198 doriangrey

Heh heh heh what can I say, it's damned tough living in paradise. Been a lovely 74 degree's pretty much all month, rained a couple of times....

Lewis Black:

Easiest job in the world? Weatherman, San Diego...

Bill: Now to Jim with the weather, Jim?
Jim: (Pause) Nice! Back to you, Bill.

Stayed at the Del once. Was REALLY nice.

206 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:36:18am

re: #202 pingjockey

I miss homemade rasberry ice cream, the Dory Boat Festival, Crater Lake, and Mill City.

207 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:36:22am

FBV,

You know the old saying.. the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Found this article regarding the state of Islam in Turkey in the religious section, all the way in the back.

"Kemal" refers to Mustafa Kemal Atatürk... leader of the Turkish National Movement, President of Turkey and founder of the Republic of Turkey.

ISLAM: Muezzins Talk Turkish Now Instead of Arabic

When the muezzin called from the minaret outside of the great, green mosque at Broussa, Turkey, last week, he summond the faithful to prayer... not in the name of Allah, but in the Turkish name of Tanri.

Kemals' official banning of Arabic, used in religious services in his country since the death of Mohammed in 632, was another revolutionary step in line with the Presidents' attempts to modernize Turkey. For the orthodox, its' effects were the same as though Latin were to be abandoned in Roman Catholic church services.

Kemal has proved himself implacable in his insistence upon the adoption of his reforms. In the past, he has hanged a number of rebel ring-leaders. He took the fez away from the men, telling them to wear felt hats and derbies. He commanded women to put aside their veils. He separated church and State and replaced old Islamic laws by new codes.

Talk about balls of steel... Kemal was an amazing man. He modernized all of Turkey from the ground up and abolished the Caliphate.

208 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:36:47am

re: #201 The Albatross

I miss the Cascades... haven't been back since 2001. That's the longest I've been away. I used to go at least every other year. Got no family there now though (big sigh).

Meh...........I was born in Yakima Washington, havent been back in like 38 years. Dont miss the frigging snow one single bit..............

209 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:37:38am

BBL.

Hardware store should be open by the time I get there.

210 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:37:52am

re: #204 doriangrey
I remember once in the mid 80s we had one of those Pacific storms hit, was living in Chula Juana and it was thunder and lightening and it started snowing! We were making jokes about the end of the world.

211 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:37:55am

&#9836 TA-DA! &#9836

Good morning {lizards!}

Averybadman - welcome. The new kid always brings donuts and fresh coffee. :D

{realwest} Morning, luv *smooochy-smooch-SMOOOOOOOOOCH*

Monster storms rumbled through the valley last night sweeping away the sticky humidity and today it's bright and clean with plenty of sinshine.

Thank you G*d for another beautiful day.

212 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:38:23am

re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lewis Black:

Easiest job in the world? Weatherman, San Diego...

Bill: Now to Jim with the weather, Jim?
Jim: (Pause) Nice! Back to you, Bill.

Stayed at the Del once. Was REALLY nice.

Fuck Lewis Black...........well that said that is a funny routine, and yea the Hotel Del really is something... Plus..... It's haunted...........

213 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:38:37am

Good morning all. 76 degrees in the greater metropolitan Doraville area, going up into the low 90s. We need rain -- popcorn thunderstorms are the norm these days, but we've missed them the last few days. Off to Alabama in a bit to pick up oldest boy after his first sleep-away camp.

I love the Cascades -- when I was kid, for about five years running, we'd drive from Chicago to Seattle for a business meeting my dad always had out there. We'd always take a couple of weeks and travel around the area, usually heading over to Victoria, sometimes going up to Prince Rupert and across through Banff and Jasper on the way home. Some of my favorite memories of childhood were those trips through the Pacific Northwest.

How's everyone this fine morning?

214 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:39:15am

re: #208 doriangrey

Meh back at you (grin) I grew up in San Diego... and loved the change of pace. I still am scratching my head at why I ever settled here on the Gulf of Mexico... "high" ground is 360 ft above sea level and it's about 60 miles from here.

I miss the mountains.

215 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:39:56am

re: #210 pingjockey

I remember once in the mid 80s we had one of those Pacific storms hit, was living in Chula Juana and it was thunder and lightening and it started snowing! We were making jokes about the end of the world.

ROTFLMAO............I remember that...............Damn storm nearly washed away the Crystal Pier........

216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:40:54am

re: #207 Irish Rose

My sister was stationed in Turkey in the 80's. Brought a sheik outfit (I mean the full regalia) home to me as a gift. Was Cotton and Silk. Most comfortable thing I ever wore. Three Halloweens in a row! (I think my family threw it away, I can get to be a pretty embarrassing person to be around).

217 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:41:54am

re: #213 Lucius Septimius

Good morning all. 76 degrees in the greater metropolitan Doraville area, going up into the low 90s. We need rain -- popcorn thunderstorms are the norm these days, but we've missed them the last few days. Off to Alabama in a bit to pick up oldest boy after his first sleep-away camp.

I love the Cascades -- when I was kid, for about five years running, we'd drive from Chicago to Seattle for a business meeting my dad always had out there. We'd always take a couple of weeks and travel around the area, usually heading over to Victoria, sometimes going up to Prince Rupert and across through Banff and Jasper on the way home. Some of my favorite memories of childhood were those trips through the Pacific Northwest.

How's everyone this fine morning?

Good morning Lucius, feeling great down here on the Left coast, looking to be another wonderful San Diego day, fricking shame I have to work and cant spend the day crusin my Vette around the beaches.....

218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:42:07am

ON TOPIC!

Coach: How's life treating you, Norm?
Norm: Like it caught me in bed with its wife.

Coach: How's life, Norm?
Norm: Not for the squeamish, Coach.

Coach: How's it going, Norm?
Norm: Daddy's rich and Momma's good lookin'.

Sam: What's up, Norm?
Norm: My nipples. It's freezing out there.

Coach: What's the story, Norm?
Norm: Thirsty guy walks into a bar. You finish it.

Sam: What's new, Norm?
Norm: Most of my wife.

Coach: Beer, Norm?
Norm: Naah, I'd probably just drink it.

Coach: What's doing, Norm?
Norm: Well, science is seeking a cure for thirst. I happen to be the guinea pig.

Coach: Can I draw you a beer, Norm?
Norm: No, I know what they look like. Just pour me one.

Coach: How about a beer, Norm?
Norm: Hey I'm high on life, Coach. Of course, beer is my life.

Coach: How's a beer sound, Norm?
Norm: I dunno. I usually finish them before they get a word in.

Coach: What's up, Norm? N
orm: Corners of my mouth, Coach.

Coach: What's shaking, Norm?
Norm: All four cheeks and a couple of chins, Coach.

Coach: Beer, Normie?
Norm: Uh, Coach, I dunno, I had one this week. Eh, why not, I'm still young.

[Norm comes in with an attractive woman.] Coach: Normie, Normie, could this be Vera?
Norm: With a lot of expensive surgery, maybe.

[Norm returns from the hospital.] Coach: What's up, Norm?
Norm: Everything that's supposed to be.

Sam: What's new, Normie?
Norm: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach. They're demanding beer.

Coach: What'll it be, Normie?
Norm: Just the usual, Coach. I'll have a froth of beer and a snorkel.

Coach: What would you say to a beer, Normie?
Norm: Daddy wuvs you.

Sam: What'd you like, Normie?
Norm: A reason to live. Gimme another beer.

Norm: Afternoon, everybody.
All: Norm!
Cliff: Afternoon, everybody.
All: [silence]

Sam: What will you have, Norm?
Norm: Well, I'm in a gambling mood, Sammy. I'll take a glass of whatever comes out of that tap.
Sam: Oh, looks like beer, Norm.
Norm: Call me Mister Lucky.

Sam: What do you say, Norm?
Norm: Any cheap, tawdry thing that'll get me a beer.

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:43:03am

re: #212 doriangrey

Yeah, but give credit where credit is due.

220 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:44:02am

re: #217 doriangrey

Good morning Lucius, feeling great down here on the Left coast, looking to be another wonderful San Diego day, fricking shame I have to work and cant spend the day crusin my Vette around the beaches.....

"Work is the curse of the drinking class" --- Oscar Wilde

221 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:44:27am

re: #220 Lucius Septimius

"Work is the curse of the drinking class" --- Oscar Wilde

And so right he was...................

222 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:44:32am

re: #208 doriangrey
Ha. You have to be bilingual to live in Yakima now! Folks in Chelan just got their new property assesments....Some property values have quintupled! Working class people are having to sell out and move cause property taxes have went through the roof! 1100sq. ft. house on the lake, 2 bedrooms over 1 mill. All the westsiders with bucks are buying everything and all the city fathers are seeing nothing but dollar signs. Here in the Wenatchee valley, they just closed a trailer park to make way for $650k condos. Fuck the people who lived there. The vacancy rate for rental properties is 1.5%! And, there is a little thing Olympia dreamed up. The growth management act. If you subdivide your property the parcels can be no smaller than 5 acres. So the working class folks are being zapped big time.

223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:45:05am

Whole bunch of Norm quotes here.

[Link: members.aol.com...]

224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:46:30am

re: #222 pingjockey

Bilingual? Which languages?

225 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:47:29am

Hey Lucius! That is a nice trip to do. The ferry ride from Seattle to Victoria is awesome.

226 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:47:49am

re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Se habla espanol.

227 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:48:03am

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Dorian! What's Shakin?

(All four cheeks and a couple'a chins. Norm Peterson, Cheers)

LOL! That guy's got more chins than a Hong Kong telephone directory ... :P

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:48:12am

re: #226 pingjockey

Oh, and what other language?

/

229 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:48:36am

re: #222 pingjockey

It was tough to get a toe hold even in the late 70's and early 80's unless you were bankrolled. I wanted to live outside of Salem, but was afraid I wouldn't be able to make a go of it. No chance of living there now. If I have to move from here, I'll be heading to SE Oklahoma.

230 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:05am

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That is about it. A couple of the school districts here have over 60% Hispanic students. Just had a buddy get hit by a car on his 2 week old HD. Hispanic driver, no insurance(state law requires it) no DL. He's okay, bike trashed.

231 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:32am

My family was all farm folk, 4th and 6th sons... no way they could inherit the family farm in Nebraska. We've been blue collar ever since.

232 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:51:10am

re: #229 The Albatross
Yep all the wonderful tree huggers are buying all the woods they can and putting up Keep the Fuck out signs.

233 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:52:28am

Good morning, Lizards.

234 Sunlight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:52:44am

I put this on the previous Obama thread, but I think everyone has left it!

Obama keeps going because competent people are still stuck on the stupid MSM. Even with a link from Rush Limbaugh, the visit count here hovers at or below 100K. It needs to be 100M. That's why the candidates can say different opposite things, etc. with a straight face and not have to worry about it. People will feel a mild confusion, but not enough to actually go out to the blogs to get more info (since we know the MSM will construct the news to fit their narrative). The MSM has done their best to discredit blogs, unfortunately somewhat successfully among people who consider the MSM as the traditional standard. I've gotten a die-hard LA Times reader to read the Investor's Business Daily editorials because they already read the IBD business stuff. It looks like the IBD editorial people are reading LGF, Powerline, Instapundit, milblogs, etc. and are providing somewhat of an infusion into a group of voters who could potentially influence larger numbers of voters. The Wall Street Journal sometimes does a good job of it also, but I've seen some incomplete pieces there (relevant facts left out to maintain some narrative)... which is really too bad.
235 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:22am

re: #232 pingjockey

Yep all the wonderful tree huggers are buying all the woods they can and putting up Keep the Fuck out signs.

There is an irony there that the commie bastards probably just dont have the intelligence to grasp....

236 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:55:05am

re: #233 goddessoftheclassroom

Mornin' Goddess -- all moved in?

237 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:55:17am

re: #233 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning Goddess................May the lord bless you this day.......

238 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:56:20am

re: #235 doriangrey
Oh yeah. There were a couple of assholes that bought some property up the valley from my parents and tried to gate a Forest Service road. That didn't last long. Between the locals putting rounds through their mailbox and No anything signs, ripping out the gateposts with 4x4s they got the message.

239 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:56:46am

Well it's time once again for me and that old vette of mine to go putting on down the road...(heh heh heh lucky me...)

240 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:57:12am

re: #239 doriangrey
Have a good day.
Mornin' goddess.

241 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:58:11am

We're getting a lot of that here on the coast in NW Florida... big money coming in, putting up condos and even buying up the public access right of ways to the beach. They've been fighting for years here to determine whether or not property stops at the water line.

I've pulled away from the beaches and got a little patch of dirt inland where I may be able to retire when I sell out of the coast. One thing I like here, is that there are many locals who are in the same boat I am... they had to move off from GA and AL to try to find land of their own because they were farmers who were 2nd, 3rd, .... 7th sons and had to move off the farm to find something of their own.

Hard working, easy to please folk, with little education (like me)... makes for good neighbors.

242 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:00:18am

re: #241 The Albatross
Yeppers. Same here. A lot of the orchards have been sold off cuase the kids didn't want the hassle of all the state and federal bullshit about hiring workers, pesticides, etc...Just a rats nest of regulations.

243 doriangrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:00:37am

re: #238 pingjockey

Oh yeah. There were a couple of assholes that bought some property up the valley from my parents and tried to gate a Forest Service road. That didn't last long. Between the locals putting rounds through their mailbox and No anything signs, ripping out the gateposts with 4x4s they got the message.

Amazing..........That they ever got the message that is. Those fucking insane socialist/commie/liberal tree hugging bastards really arent very bright. The classic definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and over expecting different results each time. Socialism/communism has failed miserably ever single place and time it has been tried, yet in keeping with the definition of insanity, they insist on trying the same thing again and again insisting that everyone who tried it did it wrong, but somehow they will get it right. Fucking lunatics.....

244 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:00:49am

re: #158 slartybartfast

Good morning, Lizards!

FYI, BHO's campaign is operating a Push-Poll in Georgia--telephone poll last night (example "question"):

Q: What do you think about Barak Obama's position on abortion? You know, John McCain is Pro-Life and he will work to stop all abortions. Barak Obama is leaving the choice up to the woman...

That is a poll? Odd definition of poll, when you give the respondent the answers, LOL. Not to mention biased beyond all belief.

245 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:01:16am

Well, it's been grand, but gotta run. Busy day ahead.

Have a great day, ya'll.

246 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:01:30am

re: #236 Lucius Septimius

Mornin' Goddess -- all moved in?

Well, I moved OUT--I still have tons to sort through in the new room, but that's the fun part.

My goal now is to establish more structure in the household in order to keep it up better. As much as I loved Animal House, I don't want to live there.

We had a good meeting with Lizard-in-Training's counselor. Before the meeting, I told LIT that regardless of the pain of the past year, we've learned that there some things over which we simply have no control, nor can we change. We have to deal with situations as the occur, not hide from them so that they get worse. We have a plan to make up the courses he needs to as well as a possible schedule for the year after that.

247 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:02:22am

re: #243 doriangrey
You have to remember their mindset, rules are for others, not the elites. The Ivy League edumicated, the Kennedys and their ilk, the hollyweird leftists, etc...

248 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:02:44am

re: #237 doriangrey

Good morning Goddess................May the lord bless you this day.......

And you, {doriangrey}. Of course, He always does; it's up to us to open our hearts to see it!

249 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:03:56am

SAN FRANCISCO — An American military supercomputer, assembled from components originally designed for video game machines, has reached a long-sought-after computing milestone by processing more than 1.026 quadrillion calculations per second.
The Roadrunner supercomputer costs $133 million and will be used to study nuclear weapons.
The new machine is more than twice as fast as the previous fastest supercomputer, the I.B.M. BlueGene/L, which is based at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

The new $133 million supercomputer, called Roadrunner in a reference to the state bird of New Mexico, was devised and built by engineers and scientists at I.B.M. and Los Alamos National Laboratory, based in Los Alamos, N.M. It will be used principally to solve classified military problems to ensure that the nation’s stockpile of nuclear weapons will continue to work correctly as they age. The Roadrunner will simulate the behavior of the weapons in the first fraction of a second during an explosion.

SNIP

250 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:04:22am

Good morning Goddess. Thank you for keeping up the list. You can pull the Father in law off for now.

I got a blessing though... got enough clients to cover my medical expenses and that's a big relief. Just happened yesterday. I was doing respite care for a couple of weeks, and the family called the office and want's me on permanently. That gives me 39 hours private in home care, and 15 hours front desk at the Y, 10 hours pool maintenance and 4-8 hour private swim lessons.

It will cover my expenses, I only have to drive 2 miles max, and I can wait it out through the summer while I'm getting these durn shots... I hit the 6 month mark in August. Hopefully I can be back full tilt by then.

251 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:04:55am

Good day all, off to the salt mines.

252 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:05:40am

Greets and saluts from the much more comfortable NYC metro area as a result of those storms coming through last night. Then again, if you're without power or had issues with your commute because of those storms, you might quibble with the aforementioned comfort.

First, you get reports that Israel is considering major operations against Hamas and the terrorists in Gaza. Israel rules out a military operation against Hamas in Gaza for the time being. Right. Good show. The terrorists can continue their bombing campaign against Southern Israel and Israel's leadership thinks that taking the fight to the terrorist infrastructure in its entirety is not quite appropriate at this time. How many more Israelis have to die or be injured before Olmert and his cronies take action? They're engaging in limited airstrikes against terror cells after they fire on Israelis, but that does little to prevent attacks.

The Knesset might call for new elections next week, but I'm not convinced they'll actually go through with it.

253 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:06:41am

re: #249 MandyManners

Nix the second sentence.

254 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:07:04am

re: #251 pingjockey

Have a good day pingjockey... nice visiting with ya.

255 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:08:51am

re: #252 lawhawk

The Knesset might call for new elections next week, but I'm not convinced they'll actually go through with it.

This would be very good news.

256 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:11:03am

re: #255 MandyManners

It would, and while Olmert is giving his blessing to Kadima, the Knesset hasn't managed to get the votes to go through with dissolving the government four times already. That's despite the Gaza rocket war, the Hizbullah war and Winograd report findings, and Olmert's legal troubles.

The Israeli polity is a mess.

257 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:12:19am

"Reptile of the mind"

What a great nic that would be. I hope some hatchling picks it up.

258 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:12:22am

re: #256 lawhawk

It sounds like a true Charley Foxtrot.

259 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:12:46am

re: #256 lawhawk

It would, and while Olmert is giving his blessing to Kadima, the Knesset hasn't managed to get the votes to go through with dissolving the government four times already. That's despite the Gaza rocket war, the Hizbullah war and Winograd report findings, and Olmert's legal troubles.

The Israeli polity is a mess.

I look at the mess in Israel and Olmert still running the government while rockets fall daily and unabated on Sderot and I can only shake my head. There simply are no words.

260 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:14:12am

re: #257 Shiplord Kirel

"Reptile of the mind"

What a great nic that would be. I hope some hatchling picks it up.

It brings to mind this song.

261 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:15:29am

Lizard Prayer List 6/11/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Part I

Thanksgivings
gop patriot: friend’s 6-year-old son almost completely over pneumonia.
Shug: arrival of Shug Junior; Mrs. Shug is fine
Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com: recuperating well
laZardo: friend’s brain scan came back clear
BlueCanuck (and mom)--brother, SIL, and niece in China and safe.
The Albatross: enough clients to cover medical expenses
FishFearMe: "artifact" or a "sclerotic bone lesion" on sacroiliac IS BENIGN!.
killgore trout: stepfather’s doing better
Conservgirl: Father-in-law Oliver is in remission from Multiple Myeloma. It's a miracle.
Suzette: things improving
MamaWinger Father in law doing better

Health issues:

Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie--cancer and renal failure
Jorline: father who has colon cancer
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Ma Sands: daughter dealing with postpartum issues
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
realwest: cancer; mom diagnosed with Type II diabetes
BBev: wife’s illness; recovering from surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
loppyd: nephew, recently diagnosed with Type I Diabetes
Babbazee: ancillary health problems
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
EC Marm: wife is hurt
Lucius Septimius: mother
Storagemanager: copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Continued...

262 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:15:46am

Lizard Prayer List, Part II

Family, friend, and life situations:

SavageNation
Lucius Septimus: healing of hurts
David Simon—mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling and the loans for the schooling are not working out.
Incanus and family: uncle’s passing
KostyaLotz: In-Law Family and Friends in Sichuan Provence, PRC (earthquake victims)
Lizards who are traveling, especially those going abroad.
Eyes of Blue: daughter’s neighbor's husband killed in Iraq.
committed: brother lost his mobile home to fire
Intrepid:. Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
Gromster: mother’s passing
Bikermailman: mom’s heart surgery next month
Loppyd: stepfather recovering from serious surgery
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq. We lost another nephew (USMC) two years ago.
vxbush: father’s passing; her & son
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
gibsonz: the passing of Sonia Neeley
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
tfc3rid: friend’s passing shortly after diagnosis, leaving wife and 2 young children; friend’s pregnancy/complications
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
Crusader Rabbit: safe traveling
Spidly: brother’s passing
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general


Community issues:

Those suffering in China and Burma
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
Those at risk for speaking the truth
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Those pushing back against dhimmitude
Israel, especially for those who mourn
Ezra Levant and Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

263 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:16:32am

I'm always concerned that I'll miss a request or update, so if you can, would you please scan the list and let me know of any needed changes?

264 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:26am

Absolutely fucking outrageous -

U.S. troops serving in Iraq may be getting more letters during mail call, but they won't be care packages — one group is sending them letters and DVDs claiming 9/11 was an “inside job” and that they should rethink why they’re fighting.

Mark Dice, founder of The Resistance, which he calls a media watchdog group, says that the U.S. government was responsible for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and that the armed forces should know it.

“People want the facts. The Marines are hungry for the truth — what got them there [in Iraq], why are they risking their lives — and we’re going to help them understand that,” he told FOX News.

Dice plans to send letters and declassified government documents that he says can prove the government’s responsibility for the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people — and he’s urging others to do the same.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

265 rlevitin  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:18:57am

Morning all!

I don't know if anyone has talked about it yet, but did you guys hear Israel decided NOT to go through with attacking Gaza, and they seem to be giving into the Egyptian-brokered truce with Hamas, without really enforcing any of the principles.

I am SO FURIOUS at the Olmert government right now. It's DISGUSTING how he can let his citizens live under mortar fire (another 18 mortars and 4 missiles hit Israel yesterday) and do nothing but TALK, TALK, TALK.

/I just had to let that out.

266 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:19:09am

241 The Albatross 6/11/08 5:58:11 am

We're getting a lot of that here on the coast in NW Florida... big money coming in, putting up condos and even buying up the public access right of ways to the beach. They've been fighting for years here to determine whether or not property stops at the water line.

We have these same issues up here along the shores of the Great Lakes.

Lighthouses are one of our states' great treasures. Thankfully access to the Grand Haven light is protected because it borders a state park. Not all of our lights are that fortunate... most of them are surrounded by private homes on beaches, with a small area of public access.

Over the years people have tried very hard to get hold of that public access land to restrict the crass, unwashed lowly public from walking past their precious beachfront properties and ruining the karma. They want the lights all to themselves, and the rest of us should be content with a pair of binoculars.

Same thing with the beaches. Here in Michigan, the private property lines stop short of the waterline, which is deemed public property by the state of Michigan. You can walk all up and down the beach to your hearts content, as long as you stay inside of the waterline and don't go up onto private beach areas.

The folks who have expensive homes along the lakeshore are always bitching about the unwashed, lowly public walking along the beach in front of their homes. It's been going on for years. They don't want to see us or look at us, and they want it all for themselves.

Bastahds.

267 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:19:50am

re: #265 rlevitin

Morning all!

I don't know if anyone has talked about it yet, but did you guys hear Israel decided NOT to go through with attacking Gaza, and they seem to be giving into the Egyptian-brokered truce with Hamas, without really enforcing any of the principles.

I am SO FURIOUS at the Olmert government right now. It's DISGUSTING how he can let his citizens live under mortar fire (another 18 mortars and 4 missiles hit Israel yesterday) and do nothing but TALK, TALK, TALK.

/I just had to let that out.

Lawhawk posted that just above. What I find amazing is that the people of Israel have not deposed Olmert by open rebellion yet.

268 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:20:29am

re: #264 galloping granny


I'm sure you can guess what those letters are going to be used for over there :).

Waste of postage and printing costs.

269 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:21:24am

re: #264 galloping granny

Absolutely fucking outrageous -

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

He's the fucking pinhead who once was called "John Conner."

Didn't Danny Bonoduce punch his lights out last year or so?

270 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:21:31am

Poverty sucks... so off to work I go.

Have a great day, Lizards.

271 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:22:47am
272 The Albatross  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:23:32am

re: #270 Irish Rose

Right you are... poverty sucks more than work. I'm right behind ya... gotta be at work in 35 min. Later Lizards... keep shining the light on the carnival of cockroaches and the abomination that is the Obamanation.

273 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:23:45am

re: #264 galloping granny

Jammie has a post on his blog about this.

This is the same troofer baboon who was absolutely owned by former child star and all-round ass-kicker Danny Bonaduce in a classic video confrontation.

A direct mailing to all the troops in Iraq, or even a worthwhile percentage of them, would be a very expensive proposition. I have to wonder who is really footing the bill. Might be interesting to find out.

274 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:24:04am

re: #268 Irish Rose

I'm sure you can guess what those letters are going to be used for over there :).

Waste of postage and printing costs.

I was a Vietnam Era army wife. Smacks way too much of what the military of my generation had to put up with, which was heart breaking for most of them and literally broke more than a few. Our servicepeople in Iraq should not have to put up with this.

For that matter, I'm dying to know where the ass is even getting the addresses to send this crap to, since addresses and duty stations of military personnel are not public information.

275 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:24:22am

Well good morining again all Y'all - how's everyone doing this fine morning?

276 rlevitin  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:24:44am

re: #267 galloping granny

lol, thanks, my bad.

re: #256 lawhawk

I was SO SURE that Israel was finally gonna do SOMETHING. If they don't dissolve the government next week, I dunno what I am gonna do. I'll have lost a lot of faith in Israel.

On the other hand, The common soldiers in the IDF have still got my undying support. They never fail to impress me.

As I type this, looks like Olmert is out, after making all the decisions to screw over his country.

278 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:27:20am

re: #277 Ojoe Hi Ojoe!
Thanks again for those great photos! Really nice.
How are y'all doing this morning?

279 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:27:37am

re: #276 rlevitin

lol, thanks, my bad.

Nothing bad about it. Important - and maddening - issue.

280 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:27:58am

re: #264 galloping granny

That is infuriating.

I especially can't stand all the bogus ignorant structural misconceptions of the "truthers"

Ojoe, architect.

281 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:28:01am

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel

Jammie has a post on his blog about this.

This is the same troofer baboon who was absolutely owned by former child star and all-round ass-kicker Danny Bonaduce in a classic video confrontation.

A direct mailing to all the troops in Iraq, or even a worthwhile percentage of them, would be a very expensive proposition. I have to wonder who is really footing the bill. Might be interesting to find out.

*sniff* *sniff*

Is that a Soros I smell?

282 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:28:25am

re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Paradise - I drove through Paradise, MT, yesterday. It was raining. Today it is probably snowing. I'm wondering which season we're in right now - I think it's snow. Not over 50 today...

283 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:28:53am

re: #53 MigueldowninMexico

Amen to that!

284 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:29:22am

re: #278 realwest

Fine, just read St. Patrick's morning prayer, but got up too late to hear the bird chorus. Wife & kids still asleep.

285 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:30:10am

re: #284 Ojoe

Fine, just read St. Patrick's morning prayer, but got up too late to hear the bird chorus. Wife & kids still asleep.

What is St. Patrick's morning prayer? (I'm up every day to hear the birds - that is what wakes me up.)

286 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:30:28am

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel

Jammie has a post on his blog about this.

This is the same troofer baboon who was absolutely owned by former child star and all-round ass-kicker Danny Bonaduce in a classic video confrontation.

A direct mailing to all the troops in Iraq, or even a worthwhile percentage of them, would be a very expensive proposition. I have to wonder who is really footing the bill. Might be interesting to find out.


I believe Danny"Boom Boom " Bonaduce
beat down Andy Dick...Which fit perfectly!

287 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:30:46am

Whoooooooooo.

What did I miss?

288 Karridine  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:16am

re: #179 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Email me, Dude! Love to meetcha!

290 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:28am

re: #264 galloping granny Good morning galloping granny!
How did that pos get the names and APO's of the Marines he's sending that crap to, do you know?

291 rlevitin  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:42am

re: #264 galloping granny

Someone else should find out what is being sent to the troops, and for every package/letter/whatever is sent, an equivalent should be sent refuting the troofer's and ensuring our country's and the free world's gratitude.

292 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:51am

Morning all...

So Republican Presidential candidate John McCain is here in NY fund raising and other stuff...

NY Post running a story today that has McCain praising the job Mayor Bloomy hjas done here and not ruling out Bloomberg for his VP... I can think of no better way to completely alienate any conservatives that might want to vote McCain than him even thinking about Mike Bloomberg as a Veep possibility...

293 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:35am

re: #285 galloping granny

Here is St. Patrick's morning prayer (quite old it is):


Saint Patrick’s Breastplate:

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through the belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness
Of the Creator of Creation.

I arise today
Through the strength of Christ's birth with his baptism,
Through the strength of his crucifixion with his burial,
Through the strength of his resurrection with his ascension,
Through the strength of his descent for the judgment of Doom.

I arise today
Through the strength of the love of Cherubim,
In obedience of angels,
In the service of archangels,
In hope of resurrection to meet with reward,
In prayers of patriarchs,
In predictions of prophets,
In preaching of apostles,
In faith of confessors,
In innocence of holy virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.

I arise today
Through the strength of heaven:
Light of sun,
Radiance of moon,
Splendor of fire,
Speed of lightning,
Swiftness of wind,
Depth of sea,
Stability of earth,
Firmness of rock.

I arise today
Through God's strength to pilot me:
God's might to uphold me,
God's wisdom to guide me,
God's eye to look before me,
God's ear to hear me,
God's word to speak for me,
God's hand to guard me,
God's way to lie before me,
God's shield to protect me,
God's host to save me
From snares of devils,
From temptations of vices,
From everyone who shall wish me ill,
Afar and anear,
Alone and in multitude.

I summon today all these powers between me and those evils,
Against every cruel merciless power that may oppose my body and soul,
Against incantations of false prophets,
Against black laws of pagandom
Against false laws of heretics,
Against craft of idolatry,
Against spells of witches and smiths and wizards,
Against every knowledge that corrupts man's body and soul.
Christ to shield me today
Against poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against wounding,
So that there may come to me abundance of reward.

Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me,
Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ on my right, Christ on my left,
Christ when I lie down, Christ when I sit down, Christ when I arise,
Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks of me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness,
Of the Creator of Creation.


294 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:47am

re: #290 realwest

Probably using the anysoldier.com or adoptasoldier type websites.

295 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:52am

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel

Jammie has a post on his blog about this.

This is the same troofer baboon who was absolutely owned by former child star and all-round ass-kicker Danny Bonaduce in a classic video confrontation.

A direct mailing to all the troops in Iraq, or even a worthwhile percentage of them, would be a very expensive proposition. I have to wonder who is really footing the bill. Might be interesting to find out.

Danny Bonaduce, my hero of the day. And yeah, it would be interesting to know who paid the bill for that mailing.

296 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:33:10am
297 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:33:18am

Just in from a friend -

Abu Dhabi to buy NYC's landmark Chrysler Building -
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

They don't have to conquer us buy jihad - they are simply buying us out, lock, stock and barrel.

298 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:34:43am

Chrysler Building may be sold to investors from Abu Dhabi

The latest Big Apple trophy being coveted by oil-rich sovereign wealth funds is the landmark Chrysler Building.

Sources say the su per-rich Abu Dhabi Investment Council is negotiating an $800 million deal for a 75 per cent stake in the Art Deco treasure that has defined the Midtown skyline since 1930.

299 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:34:43am

re: #290 realwest

Good morning galloping granny!
How did that pos get the names and APO's of the Marines he's sending that crap to, do you know?

I don't know realwest and I am darned curious about that, since they are not supposed to be made public at all.

300 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:35:00am

re: #297 galloping granny

Just in from a friend -

Abu Dhabi to buy NYC's landmark Chrysler Building -
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

They don't have to conquer us buy jihad - they are simply buying us out, lock, stock and barrel.

Yes and with our money too via OPEC.

301 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:35:01am

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel

At least he was polite enough to excuse his own language beforehand.

302 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:35:53am

Is this the same Mark Dice?

Lindsay Lohan May Commit Suicide
Hollywood, CA
- Christian counselor Mark Dice fears that Lindsay Lohan may commit suicide to escape the feelings of emptiness in her soul.

SNIP

Mark Dice largly credits his 'Pray for Paris Party' held at the Beverly Hilton Hotel on June 5th as the reason Paris Hilton found God in jail, and is now focusing his prayers on Lindsay Lohan. Dice is a Christian author and pop culture critic focusing on morality and social trends in relation to celebrities.

Mark Dice is a Christian author and pop culture critic focusing on morality and social trends in relation to celebrities.

303 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:23am

re: #289 MandyManners
Good Morning Mandy - is that the pos that gallopin granny was talking about - sending over "the truth" to the Marines in Iraq? I see from a link within your link that he's a Ron Paulian "troofer" - I too smell Soros' money in back of this.

304 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:23am

re: #288 Karridine

Hey hey..
That's the minor problem.
Can't get my end of the e-mail to work.


Have you noticed anything in the local paper about a large group of ships pulling into Pattaya (sp) yesterday?

305 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:25am
306 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:26am

realwest, honey - see my #211

:D

307 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:29am

re: #292 tfc3rid

Morning all...

So Republican Presidential candidate John McCain is here in NY fund raising and other stuff...

NY Post running a story today that has McCain praising the job Mayor Bloomy hjas done here and not ruling out Bloomberg for his VP... I can think of no better way to completely alienate any conservatives that might want to vote McCain than him even thinking about Mike Bloomberg as a Veep possibility...

You gotta be sh*ttin' me! Bloomberg as Veep. I truly believe McCain is trying to be the sacrificial lamb ala Bob Dole.

309 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:37:13am

re: #299 galloping granny

I don't know realwest and I am darned curious about that, since they are not supposed to be made public at all.

He and his ilk could be signing up on those support the soldiers websites.

310 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:38:03am

re: #294 Typicalwhitey
If so, that's just......just... repugnant. Truly. Almost as repugnant as this POS.

311 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:38:32am

re: #298 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Chrysler Building may be sold to investors from Abu Dhabi

The latest Big Apple trophy being coveted by oil-rich sovereign wealth funds is the landmark Chrysler Building.

Sources say the su per-rich Abu Dhabi Investment Council is negotiating an $800 million deal for a 75 per cent stake in the Art Deco treasure that has defined the Midtown skyline since 1930.

Oh no, not the Chrysler... there's only one thing worse than that and that's probably a matter of time. Of course if the WTC hadn't existed we'd probably have lost both the Chrysler and the Empire on 9/11.

312 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:38:34am

re: #298 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I've been told that the reason the UAErs are investing abroad so much is because their oil is running out quick. It's why they're turning Dubai into a sort of tourist megaplex.

313 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:38:47am

re: #310 realwest

I know.
He is a complete jerk.

314 ciaospirit  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:39:07am

I got an email from a couple who say they are missionaries in Kenya. Trying to verify this so take with a grain of salt. This is what they say:

We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence (over 350,000) and I don't know the last count of the dead. Obama under "friends of Obama" gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in East Germany. He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga Camp) of rigged election.

By the way. His true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama.

315 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:39:14am

re: #308 infidelia

I have always viewed the mermaid with appreciation and respect.

316 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:39:18am
317 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:39:26am

re: #309 Typicalwhitey

He and his ilk could be signing up on those support the soldiers websites.

Usually even then you do not get the address. Most of those you send your card/package etc. to the organization and they send it out. Political stuff is generally not allowed.

318 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:40:20am

re: #303 realwest

Good Morning Mandy - is that the pos that gallopin granny was talking about - sending over "the truth" to the Marines in Iraq? I see from a link within your link that he's a Ron Paulian "troofer" - I too smell Soros' money in back of this.

I'd not be the least bit surprised.

319 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:40:41am

re: #308 infidelia

Funny nobody seems to have noticed that until you came along, Mark. So, where else are you seeing subliminal sexual messages these days?

LOL!

320 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:41:30am

re: #314 ciaospirit

I got an email from a couple who say they are missionaries in Kenya. Trying to verify this so take with a grain of salt. This is what they say:

At least part of that is true. He went to Kenya to campaign for his cousin Raila.

321 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:41:46am

re: #306 Miss Trixie Whoa there {Miss Trixie} (gets up, dusts self off)! What a great way to start the day!
And a *smooch* and hug back to you!
Hope you're doing ok today!

322 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:41:48am

re: #317 galloping granny

Usually even then you do not get the address. Most of those you send your card/package etc. to the organization and they send it out. Political stuff is generally not allowed.

No I am afraid that is not true, at least not in the ones I have been involved in.
I got their address to send and support them directly.
The websites I dealt with give you their information.

323 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:41:55am

re: #308 infidelia

So, where else are you seeing subliminal sexual messages these days?

Subliminal? Not necessary these days.

324 rlevitin  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:42:19am

re: #314 ciaospirit

That sounds really outlandish to me. Google to see if what they say about the election chaos is true... If this "Odinga camp" is a political player in Kenya, they might be google-able too...

325 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:42:21am

re: #314 ciaospirit

I'm with Sage in wanting to know what his birth certificate looks like.

326 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:05am

re: #311 infidelia

Oh no, not the Chrysler... there's only one thing worse than that and that's probably a matter of time. Of course if the WTC hadn't existed we'd probably have lost both the Chrysler and the Empire on 9/11.

Somebody already bought the Empire and as I vaguely recall there is ME oil money connected with that one too. That's why the green lights for Eid.

327 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:11am

re: #314 ciaospirit

Obama under "friends of Obama" gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in East Germany.

I thought Obama's brother(?) was trying to bring Shari'a law to Kenya.

328 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:15am

re: #304 Village Idiot's Apprentice Hey! Hi VIA! Dead Fish! (long time no see!). I hope you're doing well?!

329 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:34am

re: #315 Ojoe

I have always viewed the mermaid with appreciation and respect.

She is a very demure mermaid, actuallly.

330 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:44:49am

re: #326 galloping granny

Somebody already bought the Empire and as I vaguely recall there is ME oil money connected with that one too. That's why the green lights for Eid.

Shoulda known. Damn. If Ayn Rand were alive today she'd have gone after them like Luca Brazzi.

331 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:44:50am

Good Wednesday morning all. Sorry I haven't been posting much lately (like anyone would miss me - ha!). Been extremely busy at work.

332 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:45:04am

re: #322 Typicalwhitey

No I am afraid that is not true, at least not in the ones I have been involved in.
I got their address to send and support them directly.
The websites I dealt with give you their information.

Then you might want to get hold of the military - that is not the way it is supposed to work anymore. No "any soldier"mailings, either. Looked into it last year for a service project the kiddo wanted to do.

333 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:45:20am

re: #289 MandyManners

File this one under ridiculous press releases. Mark Dice and his group -- which calls itself "The Resistance" -- will be boycotting Starbucks for its sluttly mermaid. "The Starbucks logo has a naked woman on it with her legs spread like a prostitute," explains Dice in his press release. "Need I say more? It's extremely poor taste, and the company might as well call themselves, Slutbucks."

Gee, they say that like it's a bad thing.
/s
If this is what passes for moral activism in Hollywood, it's easy to understand how things have gotten to their present condition there.
Btw, it's my understanding that Hilton, Lohan, Spears et al stopped wearing panties after they heard that public utilities are required by California law to be open for inspection at all times.

334 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:45:53am

re: #327 laZardo

I thought Obama's brother(?) was trying to bring Shari'a law to Kenya.

Trained in East Germany? Is he a female gymnast?

/blink

335 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:46:23am

re: #333 Shiplord Kirel

Ding for a ZING!

336 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:46:29am

re: #327 laZardo

I thought Obama's brother(?) was trying to bring Shari'a law to Kenya.

He is. And if he was trained in East Germany (which disappeared when the wall came down) then he is a communist, not a socialist.

337 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:46:46am

re: #331 Ward Cleaver

Good Wednesday morning all. Sorry I haven't been posting much lately (like anyone would miss me - ha!). Been extremely busy at work.

Welcome back Ward!

338 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:47:29am

re: #264 galloping granny

Traitorous?

339 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:47:54am

re: #289 MandyManners

Dice should be prosecuted for sedition.

341 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:48:28am

BBIAW--got some errands to run.

342 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:48:38am

re: #338 tfc3rid

Near it, anyway.

BBL

343 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #328 realwest
Hey Real..
Long time, no posting here.
Just spent 23 days off the coast of Burma waiting to provide aid.
Now I'm down the road from Karridines place, and trying to figure a way to meet up with him if possible.
How's things on your end...ok I hope?

344 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:01am

re: #333 Shiplord Kirel

Gee, they say that like it's a bad thing.
/s
If this is what passes for moral activism in Hollywood, it's easy to understand how things have gotten to their present condition there.
Btw, it's my understanding that Hilton, Lohan, Spears et al stopped wearing panties after they heard that public utilities are required by California law to be open for inspection at all times.

Ew.

345 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:09am

Good Morning, Lizards! I HOPE you're all having a great day. Today is Wednesday, which means it's New Comic Book Day. The local comic book store has a very nice, very sweet - and very ignorant - girl behind the counter who almost always wears a Che T-shirt on New Comic Book Day. She's black & I know that I've read articles about Che being particularly nasty towards Afro-Cubans during his reign of terror. Anyone have any links about Che's racism so I can try to persuade this nice girl to change her wardrobe & maybe her mind?

346 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:13am

re: #337 HDrepub

Welcome back Ward!

Thanks. Doesn't mean I'll be posting much today. Hey, I like the tagline on your profile Loud pipes do suck. And always wear a helmet. I call helmetless riders "organ donors".

347 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:23am

re: #336 galloping granny

Shari'a Marxism.

/talk about your oxymorons right there...

348 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:31am

re: #280 Ojoe

That is infuriating.

I especially can't stand all the bogus ignorant structural misconceptions of the "truthers"

Ojoe, architect.

I hear ya man... As an engineer I am just shocked and apalled by their complete ignorance and that of those who agree with them...

349 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:34am

re: #339 godfrey

Dice should be prosecuted for sedition.

Evidently we just don't do that much. I wish we would start, I mean what's the use of having all these fabulous laws if we aren't going to enforce them.

350 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:39am

re: #338 tfc3rid

Traitorous?

Not sure you can touch him because of freedom of speech laws.

352 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:50:22am

re: #349 HDrepub

This is patently a psyops operation against troops in harm's way.

353 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:50:39am

re: #339 godfrey

Dice should be prosecuted for sedition.

Attempting to demoralize the troops?

354 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:50:53am

re: #353 MandyManners

Obviously.

355 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:50:58am

re: #343 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Hey Real..
Long time, no posting here.
Just spent 23 days off the coast of Burma waiting to provide aid.
Now I'm down the road from Karridines place, and trying to figure a way to meet up with him if possible.
How's things on your end...ok I hope?

Must have been frustrating as all get out. Hope you meet up with Karridine.

356 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:51:19am

Are there even sedition laws on the books these days?

357 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:51:21am

Anybody know where 3 Wood has been lately?

358 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:51:51am

re: #356 Ward Cleaver

Dice is careful with his words. He knows the law.

359 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:52:15am

Morning, everyone. I did a quick check here and didn't see anyone discussing the cloth-covered BMW. It's a concept car, so don't freak out about issues involving accidents, bird poop, etc. But the video is veeeery interesting.

360 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:52:37am

re: #351 Ward Cleaver

IOW, kooks.

Kooks who get on The View.

Read his Myspace page.

361 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:52:46am

re: #347 laZardo

Shari'a Marxism.

/talk about your oxymorons right there...

Actually, it isn't. Both islam and communism are about doing what you are told, group think, obedience to orders - and ultimate punishment if you fail. The "common good" with no individual rights.

362 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:53:16am

re: #343 Village Idiot's Apprentice Hi VIA, yeah, I doing ok sorta! Just getting old(er) it seems by the minute!
I thought you might be off Burma (I mean you and of course your ship!) and I still don't know why the Junta wouldn't let us provide aid. Did you guys get any information on that? I mean, did they think you were gonna attack 'em or something (not that that would necessarily be a BAD idea!)?

364 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:53:59am

re: #339 godfrey

Dice should be prosecuted for sedition.

Anti-Starbucks sedition?

365 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:54:37am

Gotta go clean the pool. Storm left a lot of junk in it. Back in a bit.

366 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:55:32am

re: #349 HDrepub
"Evidently we just don't do that much." Um, how about NOT AT ALL - or at least not recently!

367 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:56:09am

re: #364 Occasional Reader

Touch my morning espresso, and you die.

368 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:56:11am

re: #350 galloping granny

Not sure you can touch him because of freedom of speech laws.

Well, either way his plan is subversion of our troops, which seems like it's something that could be prosecuted...

369 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:56:31am

re: #363 Occasional Reader

Er... she's a mermaid, dude. She doesn't have legs.

Are we sure this isn't a spoof? It sure sounds like one.

And good morning.

Check out my other links. This guy is for real.

370 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:56:51am

re: #355 galloping granny

Hey young lady.
Yeah, sort of frustrating.

But you do what you can do, and leave the rest to God and others above you.

371 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:57:06am

re: #363 Occasional Reader

Good morning to you, too!

372 jill e  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:57:40am

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." —Ralph Waldo Emerson

373 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:57:43am

re: #369 MandyManners

Check out my other links. This guy is for real.

I stand corrected. After reading about this guy, I'd say; get the thorzaine darts and giant butterfly net.

374 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:58:05am

re: #363 Occasional Reader

Cheers, OR. Mark Dice is an attention whore. Look at him, shirtless and flexing His Troofer Manliness for the ladies.

Game.

375 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:58:07am

thorazine, pimf

376 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:58:10am

re: #357 tfc3rid Ah, finally a question I can answer - yes, he took his lovely wife of 25 years on a month's long trip to their "homeland" or at least from whence his ancestors came!
I suspect he'll be back enlightening all of us on things economic and sports in another two weeks or so!

377 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:59:17am

re: #367 godfrey

Touch my morning espresso, and you die.

"Lighten up, Francis..."

378 Sunlight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:59:18am

re: #249 MandyManners

SAN FRANCISCO — An American military supercomputer, assembled from components originally designed for video game machines, has reached a long-sought-after computing milestone by processing more than 1.026 quadrillion calculations per second.
The Roadrunner supercomputer costs $133 million and will be used to study nuclear weapons.
The new machine is more than twice as fast as the previous fastest supercomputer, the I.B.M. BlueGene/L, which is based at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

The new $133 million supercomputer, called Roadrunner in a reference to the state bird of New Mexico, was devised and built by engineers and scientists at I.B.M. and Los Alamos National Laboratory, based in Los Alamos, N.M. It will be used principally to solve classified military problems to ensure that the nation’s stockpile of nuclear weapons will continue to work correctly as they age. The Roadrunner will simulate the behavior of the weapons in the first fraction of a second during an explosion.

SNIP

Lots of innovation in New Mexico!

379 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:59:43am

re: #350 galloping granny

So you can basically pamphlet our troops on the field with propaganda and hide behind free speech law?

380 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:59:48am

Has Obama found his birth certificate yet?

381 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:00:06am

re: #378 Sunlight

Lots of innovation in New Mexico!

Yum. New toys..

382 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:00:28am

Gotta go get some work done. Back in a bit.

383 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:00:34am

re: #377 Occasional Reader

Lighten it with milk? It's an outrage.

384 CanadianBacon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:00:50am

Mornin', all.

Eastern slopes of the Canadian Rockies are wet this morning, as they have been for most of the last few weeks, but there is a promise of blue skies as we head into the weekend. If we're lucky we may even see the mountains that surround us by the time Mrs. CB gets off work to play golf with the ladies this afternoon.

Keep it screwed down tight, team, it's crazy out there.

385 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:00:50am

re: #359 vxbush
A car covered in cloth, not steel or aluminium or even a composite material?
Sounds like part of the concept is to have you driving in your own body-bag to me.

386 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:01:16am

re: #340 MandyManners

Pedantry attack! From the tinwiki article:

Bonaduce responded civilly until Dice inferred that the U.S. deliberately committed terrorism as a pretext for war

Should be "implied", not "inferred".

387 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:01:45am

Sedition is covered under the Smith Act which is still law.

388 Sunlight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:01:55am

re: #381 vxbush

Yum. New toys..

New sister cities to be Albuquerque and Rehovot, home of Weitzmann Inst. Innovation bursting at the seams.

389 Sunlight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:03:22am

re: #388 Sunlight

New sister cities to be Albuquerque and Rehovot, home of Weitzmann Inst. Innovation bursting at the seams.

Yikes.
"Weizmann." I spell it differently every time I type it.

390 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:03:26am

re: #359 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I did a quick check here and didn't see anyone discussing the cloth-covered BMW. It's a concept car, so don't freak out about issues involving accidents, bird poop, etc. But the video is veeeery interesting.

Interesting indeed. Until the 1930s, most airplanes were fabric covered and some are to this day. To my knowledge, no jet ever had fabric skin but some did have fabric covered control surfaces. Fabric covered prop planes got up into the 400 mph range during the World War 2 era. The fabric is heavily doped and water slides right off of it, along with bird poop, splattered bugs and the like.

The metal used for the skin of a car is so thin it does not really provide any kind of protection in a collision anyway, that is the job of the framing and support structure with metal skin serving to enhance this to a small extent. Slight strengthening of the metal support structure could easily make up for the loss of stiffening from a switch to fabric skin. It is also a myth, of course, that the steel on car bodies used to be thicker and of higher quality. Steel was used for this solely because it was cheap and durable.

391 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:03:29am

re: #311 infidelia

Best building in NYC, bar none.

392 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:03:36am

re: #362 realwest

Yeah...you and I are both getting older every day.

But, the only people I know that don't get any older are no longer living....so I guess we have that going for us.

I try to stay out of the political side of what all was taking place there.

I know I had my guys make several thousand gallons of drinking water, and my HT's cobbled together several manifolds out of pipes, valves and other odds and ends to fill emergengy water bags.

Plus, we had enough helo's with us to get things where they needed to go, and a full Medical/Surgical team standing by.

But....it didn't work out, and that's about the end of it.

Now, if I can figure a way to get an e-mail to Karridine, I might actually get a chance to meet him after all the years of exchanging posts here on LGF.

393 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:03:36am

re: #385 realwest

A car covered in cloth, not steel or aluminium or even a composite material?
Sounds like part of the concept is to have you driving in your own body-bag to me.

The claim made at the beginning of the video is that the metal covering the car frame isn't what protects you. It's the frame itself. Consequently, there's no need to use metal as a covering.

Note, I did say it's a concept car.

394 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:04:36am

re: #388 Sunlight

New sister cities to be Albuquerque and Rehovot, home of Weizmann Inst. Innovation bursting at the seams.

Hmmm. May need to rethink where I get my toys from.

[quietly planning to take over the world with advanced technology; adds "New Mexico" to list of places to conquer first]

395 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:04:38am

re: #373 Occasional Reader Morning O.R.! Hope you're doing well today!
"get the thorzaine darts and giant butterfly net baseball bats." Fixed that for you, just in case you were referring to his sending our Marines "Care Packages" about the "Troof" of 9/11 and other stupid, silly, designed to bust the morale of our troops.

396 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:05:43am

re: #359 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I did a quick check here and didn't see anyone discussing the cloth-covered BMW. It's a concept car, so don't freak out about issues involving accidents, bird poop, etc. But the video is veeeery interesting.

"What is the exterior of a car for... does it have to be made out of metal?"

Er, no, it can be made out of fiberglass. Like they've been doing with the Corvette (USA! USA!) for several decades now.

397 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:05:48am
398 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:06:03am

re: #393 vxbush

The
claim made at the beginning of the video is that the metal covering the
car frame isn't what protects you. It's the frame itself. Consequently,
there's no need to use metal as a covering.

Note, I did say it's a concept car.


It wouls seem rather easy to break in - a pair of pinking shears & the car is gone!

399 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:06:21am

re: #390 Shiplord Kirel

Interesting indeed. Until the 1930s, most airplanes were fabric covered and some are to this day. To my knowledge, no jet ever had fabric skin but some did have fabric covered control surfaces. Fabric covered prop planes got up into the 400 mph range during the World War 2 era. The fabric is heavily doped and water slides right off of it, along with bird poop, splattered bugs and the like.

The metal used for the skin of a car is so thin it does not really provide any kind of protection in a collision anyway, that is the job of the framing and support structure with metal skin serving to enhance this to a small extent. Slight strengthening of the metal support structure could easily make up for the loss of stiffening from a switch to fabric skin. It is also a myth, of course, that the steel on car bodies used to be thicker and of higher quality. Steel was used for this solely because it was cheap and durable.

I had forgotten that about the early planes, but you can clearly see that on the old footage of the first planes. So it's not as farfetched as some may think. [sneaks a look at RealWest]

400 alegrias  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:06:54am

Threatens to cut off UN funds: US Rep. Frank Wolf! Go, Frank, go!

"...Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Virginia, was outraged about the planned visit [to Northern Virginia's Prince William Country] to the point of threatening to cut United Nations funding. He said the U.N. was too slow to investigate human atrocities in Sudan and first needed to investigate its own human rights record.

“Do not send somebody from the United Nations here,” said Wolf, promising to remember the episode when the organization’s funding next comes before his House Appropriations Committee...."


[Link: www.examiner.com...]

401 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:07:01am

re: #398 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It wouls seem rather easy to break in - a pair of pinking shears & the car is gone!

Okay, but when the car winks at you, you might think twice about it. :D

402 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:07:24am

re: #395 realwest

Realwest, can you imagine the kind of reception Marines would give Mark Dice in Iraq? Fox News should make it happen.

403 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:07:42am

re: #396 Occasional Reader

"What is the exterior of a car for... does it have to be made out of metal?"

Er, no, it can be made out of fiberglass. Like they've been doing with the Corvette (USA! USA!) for several decades now.

But fiberglass is rigid, like metal. What the BMW guys are looking at is what options you have with a "fluid" covering.

404 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:14am
405 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:15am

re: #391 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Best building in NYC, bar none.

I agree. I still gawp at it every time I go there.

406 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:19am

re: #390 Shiplord Kirel
Spoilsport! Facts, facts, facts. Geez.

407 rlevitin  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:21am

The threat of Israel Apartheid Week and what it has become

Please watch that video, and the other stuff by y2fef on YouTube.

He is Ben Feferman, director of Hasbara Fellowships in Ontario. He has been on the frontline in the fight against IAW and has plenty of excellent footage from York University.

A lot of it is chilling to the bone.

408 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:09:13am

re: #376 realwest

Ah, finally a question I can answer - yes, he took his lovely wife of 25 years on a month's long trip to their "homeland" or at least from whence his ancestors came!
I suspect he'll be back enlightening all of us on things economic and sports in another two weeks or so!

Ahhh, good to know...

How are you this morning my friend?

409 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:09:30am

re: #359 vxbush

CURSE YOU, CHRIS BANGLE.

/Transportation Design major.

410 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:10:07am

re: #393 vxbush

The claim made at the beginning of the video is that the metal covering the car frame isn't what protects you. It's the frame itself.

I wonder. From the actual change-in-velocity of the crash itself? Sure, it's the frame. But what about all the crap flying around at the moment of the crash - the shrapnel, so to speak? I'd rather have a sheet of steel between me and that stuff, than a piece of fabric.

411 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:10:11am

re: #392 Village Idiot's Apprentice Um, if Karradine says it's ok, drop me a line and I'll send it to you!

412 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:10:12am

re: #379 godfrey

So you can basically pamphlet our troops on the field with propaganda and hide behind free speech law?

That does not sound like it should be right, does it?

413 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:10:41am

re: #359 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I did a quick check here and didn't see anyone discussing the cloth-covered BMW. It's a concept car, so don't freak out about issues involving accidents, bird poop, etc. But the video is veeeery interesting.

Chris Bangle? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

If, like me, you think some of the recent BMWs look just plain weird, the person to blame is Chris Bangle.

414 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:10:56am

1930s-era WACO biplanes at a 2002 fly-in. (All of these are fabric-covered)

415 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:11:24am

re: #410 Occasional Reader

I wonder. From the actual change-in-velocity of the crash itself? Sure, it's the frame. But what about all the crap flying around at the moment of the crash - the shrapnel, so to speak? I'd rather have a sheet of steel between me and that stuff, than a piece of fabric.

Then you better buy a car from the 60's or earlier when they still made them out of good steel. Used to have a caddy that you could drive into a stone wall and the only thing that would get hurt is the wall. They don't make them like that anymore.

416 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:12:06am

re: #393 vxbush Yep I noted that it's a concept car and read Shiplord's "facts" about steel, but I gotta tell ya, myth or no myth, I'd rather have steel or some sort of composite material around me than cloth.
Call me silly, but that's how I feel about it!

417 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:13:38am

re: #398 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It wouls seem rather easy to break in - a pair of pinking shears & the car is gone!

Did you notice it is made out of heavy duty lycra? Ever try to get out of a girdle?

418 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:13:44am

re: #399 vxbush
"So it's not as farfetched as some may think. [sneaks a look at RealWest]"

Thibbbit!

419 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:13:51am

re: #407 rlevitin

At 1:24 in the video there's a guy wearing Rachael Ray's scarf.

420 opnion  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:13:59am

The morning newspaper has an article about Obama visiting Barnes Jewish Hospital in St. Louis yesterday.
While in a supply room with a nurse, identified as Kate Marzluf, Obama confided that he is a bit skitish about some of the hospital porcedures, saying some make him "faint" just thinking about them. "You're not drawing any blood,are you?" he asked.
Hail to the Chief?

421 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:14:13am

re: #407 rlevitin

It's not so much the fact that that sort of stuff is chilling.

It's the possibility that by the time I'm an adult and in the process of passing on my knowledge to the next generation, that sort of stuff will be the established truth.

/resigning myself to fate...

422 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:14:13am

re: #404 taxfreekiller

Dune buggy's have no cover at all,

just wear a rain coat.

My Harley has no cover either. I always have a rain suit in the saddle bags.

423 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:14:23am

re: #360 MandyManners

Kooks who get on The View.

Read his Myspace page.

Oh hell, there's a bunch of familiar names in there. At least one legitimate weirdo currently holding a high-level position. Nasty customer but can't find his ass in a roomful of mirrors.

Question to MD: if they're so damn powerful, why are we looking at the possible disaster of an Obama presidency? Why hasn't Bush and his henchmen silenced all criticism, imposed martial law, staged more attacks, assassinated scores of opponents, and shipped your sorry ass to a gulag somewhere? Why is the government being infiltrated by Islamist sympathizers when these conspiratists are supposed to be so damn powerful?

424 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:14:50am

re: #415 galloping granny

Then you better buy a car from the 60's or earlier when they still made them out of good steel. Used to have a caddy that you could drive into a stone wall and the only thing that would get hurt is the wall. They don't make them like that anymore.

In general, cars are MUCH safer now than the were in the 60s or earlier. I mean, MUCH safer. The whole "crumple zone" concept really does work; sure, it wrecks the car frame, but it protects the people. A whole lot of engineering has gone into making cars safer.

425 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:14:58am

re: #416 realwest

Yep I noted that it's a concept car and read Shiplord's "facts" about steel, but I gotta tell ya, myth or no myth, I'd rather have steel or some sort of composite material around me than cloth.
Call me silly, but that's how I feel about it!

morning realwest,

picture of that new car.

[Link: dave.zfx.com...]

426 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:15:02am
427 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:15:25am

re: #410 Occasional Reader

I wonder. From the actual change-in-velocity of the crash itself? Sure, it's the frame. But what about all the crap flying around at the moment of the crash - the shrapnel, so to speak? I'd rather have a sheet of steel between me and that stuff, than a piece of fabric.

But I could see that fabric manufacturing could be farther advanced than we realize at times. I could see a fabric that is strong enough to cause the specs to bounce back, rather than cut through the metal.

Like I said: concept car. Imagine the possibilities. Or, just rip it to shreds. That's cool.

428 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:15:30am

re: #417 galloping granny

Did you notice it is made out of heavy duty lycra? Ever try to get out of a girdle?

No but I've tried to get a few girls out of one way back in the day when they still wore them. The 60s chastity belt, sort of.

429 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:15:49am

re: #416 realwest

Yep I noted that it's a concept car and read Shiplord's "facts" about steel, but I gotta tell ya, myth or no myth, I'd rather have steel or some sort of composite material around me than cloth.
Call me silly, but that's how I feel about it!

I'm not advocating a fabric-covered car, since I can't figure a way around the break-in hazard. Aircraft fabric is quite easy to cut, which is a very good thing if you are in a hurry to get out, say, if the thing is upside down in a field and starting to smolder.
The car is an interesting thought experiment, though, and may lead to some new method of producing really rigid materials, perhaps using the fabric as a base for some sort of spray-on polymer. This would be the doping idea taken to its logical conclusion.

430 rlevitin  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:16:03am

re: #419 Who Watches the Watchmen?

At 1:24 in the video there's a guy wearing Rachael Ray's scarf.

There are a lot of them...

I'm @ McMaster University and last year we managed to get the administration to do SOMETHING about it, but after the Palestinian student groups held a forum on free speech and then rally (you saw a small part of the footage), the administration back-tracked on it.

They brought in a whole group of agitators from 3 of the big Toronto Universities. All sponsored by CUPE (the government union here). It is sickening what they do.

431 jcm  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:16:06am

Morning Lizards.

Seattle Mayor Greg (Santa's gonna' drown when the North Pole melts) Nickels and feel good executive order.

Seattle gun ban ordered drawn up by Mayor