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Support for LGF, Dismay at Hate Speech at Official Obama Site

Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:50:46 am PDT

Imagine my shock to discover support for LGF at the Barack Obama web site, in that post begging the administrators to do something about the plague of hate blogs at the site: Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Michael Pugliese’s Blog: Right-Wing Bloggers on mybarackobama.com blogs.

This is not the my.barackobama.com that I knew.

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By Ozymandiass from Odessa, TX Today at 3:14 am EDT

I have found LGF to be a rather useful and misunderstood website. The Left is sometime prone to looking at the labels rather than the substance in the site. Many liberal go into hate mode the second they realize that LGF is a conservative website and go no further. Out of spite or malice, they often refer to LGF as some sort of Jewish hate site filled with racism in order to convince other to not visit it.

This is a laughable description that white supremacist and Islamic organizations would love for you to buy into. It is in fact an anti-jihadist website that details and documents the growing influence of Islamic extremism and antisemitism in the world. While clearly biased to the right, they don’t invent facts or produce propaganda. They often get their info from international sources and I’ve seen enough on LGF to not sleep as well as I’ve use to. If even a fraction of what they say is true, the world is becoming a very dark place. I’ve seen the site go after white-supremacist and 9/11 truthers as well. Like you, they don’t have high opinions of Fox News or many in the Republican party.

As hard as it to imagine, they’re looking out for everyone and are simply worried about the future like everyone else. They just think liberals are idiots.

Heh. Well, not all liberals, apparently.

Also in the comments for that post, the hate blogs—and the failure to address them—are angering many Obama supporters.

Re: what is being done????? Webmaster response requested
By Kevin from Pasadena, CA Today at 5:02 am EDT

Add me to the list of donors who are down right angry at the 9/11 “trooth” and Jewish hate groups that have infiltrated Obama’s site. Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?! We had to deal with this with both Dean AND Kerry four years ago too. Some of these groups still hold weekly protests (all ten of them) here in Pasadena California. What gives?

But Obama’s site administrators are still ignoring the problem, apparently.

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Ernest Karhu’s Blog: Obama’s Groveling Before Israel Lobby
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Michael Morrissey’s Blog: 9/11 Truth
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Why is this not being discussed?: Please watch these films on 9/11
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Dylan Hudson’s Blog: 9/11 coincidences
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Martin Perlmutter’s Blog: Bill Ayers, Great American
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Adam Roberts’s Blog: The Nature of the Proletariat

And then we have “Emmanuel Winner,” who is posting a series of blogs containing unbelievably vile, deranged stuff about John McCain.

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Emmanuel Winner’s Blog: Rumors to spread - pity McCain for having Rush as a friend.

Please repost, email, carry the news! The truth of John McCain: Part 1:

As a Prisoner of War, McCain was subjected to the secret sexual brainwashing techinques of the Viet Cong; day and night he was subjected to male rape, until he begged for more. this sex addiction was enhanced through the use of various narcotics, especially hashish and heroin. After his spirit had thus been broken, the VC brought in an Iranian Imam who carefully educated McCain in the ways of the cult of Islamo-Marxism, which teaches an Allah-centered faith in the necessity for global revolution led by a totalitarian elite acquiring power through long-term, dedicated subversion of opponent governments like that of America. McCain released to the US thus became an embedded mole a real Manchurian candidate, doing anything, saying anything, to become President. Once he takes the oath of office, he will devastate the economy and set up a socialist dictatorship.

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Emmanuel Winner’s Blog: Rumors to spread - pity McCain for having Rush as a friend 5.

Please repost, email, carry the news! The truth of John McCain: Part 5:

John McCain’s infamous temper has been wildly underreported in the media. For instance: The beautiful young woman who is presented to the media as his daughter is really an actress - McCain beat his real daughter to death when she was two and crying with hunger (the McCains do not believe in pampering the young by feeding them). McCain hates children and will not permit any such “stupid mewling whelps” anywhere near him. Aids who make the mistake of even suggesting kissing a baby are guaranteed two weeks in a hospital recovering from various broken bones. Most reporters know this, but fear reprisal from Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch got involved in the cover-up of Mccain’s violence after he pinned Vincent Foster’s arms while Mccain murdered the man.

Here’s the full list of this freak’s blogs; he’s very prolific: Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Emmanuel Winner’s Blog.

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1 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:52:16am
What gives?

Your party's been hijacked by freaks.

2 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:52:42am

Charles, I'm feeling lightheaded.

Support for LGF at the Obama website? What's next? Cats and dogs living together?

3 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:52:59am

Holy busy blogs, Batman.

4 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:53:11am

re: #2 Occasional Reader

Charles, I'm feeling lightheaded.

Support for LGF at the Obama website? What's next? Cats and dogs living together?

Mass hysteria!

5 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:53:16am

No hope for change in Obama blog posting rules and administration.

6 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:53:24am

I think my brain's shutting down from the logic paradoxes. Or maybe that's one of those Hitchenesque liberals that "gets it."

7 allah this  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:54:09am

Clearly this has been planted by left-wing operatives to make us look bad.

/head explodes

8 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:54:21am

re: #2 Occasional Reader

Gozer the Gozerian would be honored.

9 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:54:36am

LGFers being labelled as "haters" doesn't bother me 1% as much as the way all that crap has sat on myBHO for so long. I'm glad there's apparently still some small amount of sanity on the proverbial "other side of the aisle", but the level of Anti-American, Jew-hating Crazy the Dems put up with is just scary.

10 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:54:49am

Someone's figured out that LGF is a preserving blog.

11 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:55:06am

We're getting through to some of them.

12 nikis-knight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:55:47am
Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?!

Why indeed? Class, who can tell her the answer?

13 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:56:01am

Chen Zen left a comment on that one. I wonder if Gordon will show up too.

14 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:56:05am

re: #8 lawhawk

Gozer the Gozerian would be honored.

"When someone asks if you're a god, you say YES!"

15 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:56:28am
Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?!

Because they are not aggressively opposed like we do in the Republican Party.

16 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:56:37am

And by the way; thank you, "Ozymandiass" from Odessa, Texas, for having the intellectual strength to look beyond knee-jerk hatred.

17 maddogg  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:56:38am
They just think liberals are idiots.

Really? Does it show? :)

(Thats cause they ARE idiots)

18 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:56:56am
19 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:57:07am

Emmanuel Winner is a deranged nutcase. If the obama people have any clue whatsoever, they'll delete these incredibly insane blogs and ban this user post haste.

20 calvin coolidge  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:57:28am

I feel like someone is pulling me out from underneath the bus.

21 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:58:00am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

If leftists are busy convincing themselves that the original hate blogs were "planted" by LGF or other less-than-leftist bloggers, believing that the comments by Ozymandiass from Odessa and Kevin from Pasadena are plants will be a walk in the park for them.

My LGF user profile actually used to quote the "Ozymandias" poem... they'll probably say it was me!

22 brent  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:58:20am

Emmanual Winner - a walking contradiction in terms.

It's scary how prolific that insane can be - I wonder if he screams at his computer while blogs? What's that line from "Seven"? Do you know you're crazy - do you just wake up one day and say "wow, it's amazing how f*cking crazy I really am?"...

That was a nicely put article supporting LGF - the liberals are idiots jab at the end was kind of nice, too (if not taking away from the overall point).

23 crazytraveler  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:58:26am

Wow, I can't even dignify that Winner's guy's blogs with a response other than "wow" because it's so far gone.

24 bianchi_roadie  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:58:59am

I expect "Emmanuel Winner" to go down the memory hole very quickly - the last thing the Obama campaign wants is a libel suit from McCain. He's basically accusing McCain of murder - on a public webpage paid for by the Obama campaign.

Funny how the party that claims to be the "hip" ones in tune with today's media always ends up being burned by it: Dean first, now Obama.

25 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:59:01am

Sadly I think Ozymandiass from Odessa, TX and Kevin from Pasadena, CA are in for a little visit from the Thought Police. Maybe that'll complete the wake-up process and show them the caliber of the majority of the folks they're associating with.

26 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:59:55am
27 The Other Les  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:00am

Being a know-it-all means never having to perform a fact check.

28 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:02am

re: #21 Occasional Reader

I once admitted I was a member here to the art forum and all I get in response was an "ewwwwwww" from some artsy chick.

/the hologuise is still intact, bwahahahaha

29 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:02am
As a Prisoner of War, McCain was subjected to the secret sexual brainwashing techinques of the Viet Cong; day and night he was subjected to male rape, until he begged for more. this sex addiction was enhanced through the use of various narcotics, especially hashish and heroin.

"Emmanuel Winner", your homework assignment for tomorrow; a 1000 word essay on the Freudian concept of "projection". Class dismissed.

30 kansas  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:04am

"The Left is sometime prone to looking at the labels rather than the substance....."

I could say "do ya think?", but I will say brilliant analysis of the left as the stock market crashes and oil prices get out of control with the Democrats in charge. And what do they want? More Democrats. Wake up people. Everyday it looks like an Obama Presidency everything tanks. But hey, that's just me.

31 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:04am

These folks might want to go look at one of yesterday's spinoff links about Joe Liebermann... Reading the comments was instructional. Comment after comment refering to him in terms that would make the most stereotypical bigoted country club Republican blush, and then all of a sudden somebody had the nerve to post that they were "tired of being labelled anti-Semitic by the right". Um, OK... If the shoe fits...

32 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:09am

I was just thinking of the poem.

33 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:14am

re: #13 Killgore Trout
Hey Killgore - what did ChenZen have to say (I can just imagine)?

34 Genosaurer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:19am

Those McCain ones are... out there.

35 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:48am

re: #29 Occasional Reader

"Emmanuel Winner", your homework assignment for tomorrow; a 1000 word essay on the Freudian concept of "projection". Class dismissed.

Actually, I'm thinking he got this idea from the movie "Independence Day." He's pretty desperate.

36 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:00:55am

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

Deleting insanity would squash "hope." Banning the user and keeping an eye on content would represent "change" of a sort they want nothing to do with.

Then I agree with bianchi_roadie- look for McCain's lawyer(s) to get involved.

37 jemima  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:01:07am

Historically, I think people are more deranged than ever before. Dr. Sanity told me it was drug use/abuse. There is such a coarsening of culture, the lack of values, morality and ethics that we find ourselves in a realm where every obscene and hideous behavior is sanctioned. We have been cut apart from every tether that holds the mind and spirit in place. For someone to have these thoughts about John McCain suggests this is a very sick and troubled individual, someone who undoubtedly spends a great deal of time viewing pornography. It wouldn't surprise me if this person abuses animals. Doesn't anyone around him notice? Or is this vile sickness simply a lifestyle choice?

38 Son Of The Godfather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:01:19am

“Emmanuel Winner” looks like a prime candidate for a libel suit.

39 see bs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:01:43am

I hope that this will open some eyes on the other side to see what their party has become and reassess their political views. Those who are smart enough to see the vile hate are the ones to have discussions with.
While I don't agree with their political choices, it's good to see there are still some sane people on the left.

40 pegcity  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:01:43am

re: #31 Pawn of the Oppressor

Its like saying "im tired of being accused of being a nazi just because i like wearing a swastika armband"

41 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:01:45am

re: #29 Occasional Reader

"Emmanuel Winner", your homework assignment for tomorrow; a 1000 word essay on the Freudian concept of "projection". Class dismissed.

"Zo, mister Vinner... Tell me about your mother."

42 chukardog  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:01:49am

Liberals ARE idiots, living in seattle Im surrounded by them. It gets old, the sheer ignorance and hate these people possess. Sometimes I wonder if Ive wandered onto the set of Invasion of the bodysnatchers. Friggin Libtard pod people everywhere.

43 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:02:02am

That stuff at the bottom of the post is some of the hariest paranoia induced delusion I have ever seen, at least since I watched a guy on PCP stop traffic on a six lane highway with a kitchen spoon back in the seventies.

44 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:02:02am
45 frodolives  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:02:16am

...and the truth shall set you free...

46 stuiec  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:02:54am

re: #24 bianchi_roadie

I expect "Emmanuel Winner" to go down the memory hole very quickly - the last thing the Obama campaign wants is a libel suit from McCain. He's basically accusing McCain of murder - on a public webpage paid for by the Obama campaign.

Funny how the party that claims to be the "hip" ones in tune with today's media always ends up being burned by it: Dean first, now Obama.

I think Emmanuel Winner will hide behind the defense that he's obviously writing satire -- statements too obviously false to be misleading. I think he's wrong: whether he thinks it's satire, whether he's a misguided pro-McCain troll or a gibbering pro-Obama idiot with his humor gyro precessing wildly, what he writes is indeed libelous. But I don't know if anyone at the Obama campaign will care, if they think it's funny.

47 Son Of The Godfather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:03:10am

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

Nobody wears suits any more.

...or a suit with straps that tie in the back.

48 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:03:11am

re: #33 realwest

Hey Killgore - what did ChenZen have to say (I can just imagine)?

Here:

By ChenZhen Today at 1:38 am EDT
Well congrats, you got LGF's attention with this post:

Link

Not hard to do, of course, since all you have to do is link back to them.

But you're right, there isn't anything for moderation around here. It's a complete free-for-all. Now, is this a bad thing? Perhaps. On the one hand, you have a disclaimer at the bottom of each thread. On the other, you have an army of righty bloggers anxious to use whatever gets posted over here as indicative of the craziness of Obama's supporters, or an example of the ineptitude of his campaign, or an excuse to question his judgement for allowing an open forum on his own website in the first place. Of course, all that needs the prerequisite that people actually give a rip what gets posted in here.

49 Genosaurer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:03:11am

re: #40 pegcity

Its like saying "im tired of being accused of being a nazi just because i like wearing a swastika armband"

Or a black-and-white checkered Keffiyeh...

50 Roentgen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:03:26am

Warning: Pigs in flight.

51 Sponge  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:03:35am

On the Obama topic.....

I just got this in the mail:

MCCAIN OBAMA
Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567


Wow......The rich just don't pay enough. Punish those that make things great and create jobs MORE, please......yeech.

52 Stringart  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:03:44am
Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?!

Birds of a feather? Strength in numbers? Misery loves company?

Take your pick.

53 Shug  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:15am
The Left is sometime prone to looking at the labels rather than the substance in the site. Many liberal go into hate mode the second they realize that LGF is a conservative pro-American pro-freedom website and go no further

fixed

54 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:16am
55 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:28am

I wonder if this will spur these people to investigate their deal candidate a little better and in fact find out why these deviant bloggers feel so comfortable with Obama

56 pegcity  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:30am

re: #49 Genosaurer

i saw some chick wearing a yellow one, i was more offended by the sheer ugliness of the thing than its pali roots, those scarfs are so ugly, i get why special forces wear them

57 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:40am

re: #48 Honorary Yooper
Thanks - that was actually comparitively mild for him!

58 The Other Les  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:52am

re: #43 Ackomanyuki

That stuff at the bottom of the post is some of the hariest paranoia induced delusion I have ever seen, at least since I watched a guy on PCP stop traffic on a six lane highway with a kitchen spoon back in the seventies.

I don't think it was the spoon. Bodies make big dents. Even in cars from that era.

59 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:04:54am

re: #40 pegcity

Its like saying "im tired of being accused of being a nazi just because i like wearing a swastika armband"

Pretty much.

I don't think these people even understand the actual definition of "anti-Semitic" to begin with. If you are alleging that Jews have super powers, have "control" of things behind the scenes, are untrustworthy, are obsessed with money, or are part of some kind of secret conspiracy, then yes, that is anti-Semitic. Period. Those are all classic canards which have taken firm root in the mind of the Democrat core.

Why Jews go for them 87-to-13, I can't quite figure out. It has to be straight-up ignorance.

60 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:08am

re: #51 Sponge

Unholy income tax, Batman! I'd be paying at least 3 times more for my bracket under Obama.

61 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:23am

That dude will go completely over the edge if Obama loses...

62 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:43am

re: #33 realwest

Nothing terribly interesting, just pointing out that LGF is highlighting the crazy unmoderated leftists on Obama's site.

63 jamgarr  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:44am

From the ridiculous to the sublime.

64 ishabibble  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:47am

re: #37 jemima


Agreed. It's actually a little frightening to realize that someone this sick is running around loose. That stuff is so out of whack that even the brain dead mods over there should have caught it.

65 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:53am
Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?!

Because progressive radicals have grown accustomed to liberal moderates appeasing their radical positions, as well as the fact that the liberal moderates seem to be blind to what's really going on around them.

66 stuiec  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:05:55am

Hmmmm... maybe Emmanuel Winner is Emmanuel Rahm's alter ego and he's trying to "get back" at all of the people on the Right who said nasty things about his hero Bill Clinton back in the day.

Except that a fair bit of what was said about Clinton was true.

67 Bacchus's daddy  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:06:21am

re: #29 Occasional Reader

You should get a prize for that one!

68 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:06:36am

re: #42 chukardog

Where I live, the kaffiyeh has become summer chic among the fashionable college-affording class (and this is the Philippines, mind you). Oddly enough it seems to be causing me to respect the ordinary Juans and Josefinas more...

69 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:06:53am

re: #51 Sponge

On the Obama topic.....

I just got this in the mail:

MCCAIN OBAMA
Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567


Wow......The rich just don't pay enough. Punish those that make things great and create jobs MORE, please......yeech.

Have the wealthy give all their money to the government - the government (master job creaters that they are) provides high paying jobs to all! Ta dah!

70 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:06:56am

re: #35 vxbush

Actually, I'm thinking he got this idea from the movie "Independence Day." He's pretty desperate.

Eh? I must have missed the repeated-male-rape-producing-sex-addiction scene in Independence Day.

71 antishock8  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:06:57am

That's just it. I don't consider myself a Liberal or a Conservative. I'm just a guy who cares about little things like:

Freedom
Equality
The Constitution
The Right to Pursue Happiness.

You know. Little things like that, and I think both sides try their damndest, at times, to subvert those little things. I can build bridges with Liberals and Conservatives as long as the Big Picture, the democracy that values thoses little things, is always kept in mind.

72 dgax65  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:07:08am
Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign.

Probably the only blog on MyObama to which this disclaimer actually applies.

73 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:07:12am

re: #68 laZardo

Where I live, the kaffiyeh RIVIERA SCARF has become summer chic among the fashionable college-affording class (and this is the Philippines, mind you). Oddly enough it seems to be causing me to respect the ordinary Juans and Josefinas more...

Sorry, didn't want to sound Islamophobic there. (;

//////////

74 old home cafe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:07:17am

As Mavis says at the cafe:

"stupid is as stupid does"

75 The Other Les  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:07:18am

re: #61 coquimbojoe

That dude will go completely over the edge if Obama loses...

Know-it-alls are funny that way.

76 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:07:26am

The problem is that these days very few "liberals" are actually liberal....Most people who now identify themselves as liberal are, in fact, Leftists - which is the antithesis of liberal - or they are simply mush-headed, emotionalists who watch too much daytime television.

77 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:07:35am

"McCain released to the US thus became an embedded mole a real Manchurian candidate, doing anything, saying anything, to become President. Once he takes the oath of office, he will devastate the economy and set up a socialist dictatorship."

I guess this person inhabits a parallel universe. Most of us think Obama fits that description.

78 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:08:15am

re: #58 The Other Les
He was waving it around, running from car to car at a controlled intersection, threatening to chop evryone up with it.

79 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:08:16am

Logically, one could assume Emmanuel Winner would be finished, that he would have NO future with the democratic party. But ..

80 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:08:21am

re: #61 coquimbojoe sorry, I think he's already gone completely over the edge - as in certifiably insane.

81 Land Shark  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:08:33am

Wow! The things in that "Emmanuel Winner" writes are so over the top I suspect even some moonbats would shake their head at them. Extreme moonbattery alert!

As others have pointed out here, the Obamanoids didn't have a problem with the swill at Obama's website before LGF started shinning a light in those dark cesspools. That's why it's hard for me to buy their outrage. And it's no surprise many of them blame right wingers infiltrating the site and leaving those hateful blogs. Face up to the outrageous and hateful bile so many leftists spew? Much easier to blame Charles and the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy.

82 Son Of The Godfather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:09:28am

This post is actually quite encouraging.
It shows AT LEAST one Obamaton has taken a closer look and said to him/herself, "WTF?!?"

...and "closer looks" are gonna be like kryptonite to the Obamassiah.

83 firebreather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:09:59am

"The Left is sometimes prone to looking at labels..."

You're kidding... I thought Leftists had reasoned, rational, sober positions & engaged in thoughtful, respectful debates with their dissenters.

You know, like Dan Rather's famous refrain : "F--k 'em all!"

84 lobosan5  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:10:10am
"a libel suit from McCain."


GO GET'EM JONNY MAC!....com'ere Fido!

Dear John McCain, you are a REAL War Hero....& may the enemy be terrified of your temper!..onnaconna they sure ain't scared of Obambi & his $oro$ connection.

85 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:10:10am
As a Prisoner of War, McCain was subjected to the secret sexual brainwashing techinques of the Viet Cong; day and night he was subjected to male rape, until he begged for more.

Fantasyland. Not one of the POWs that were held at the Hanoi Hilton or any other NV detention facility ever mentioned being raped. Why is that do you suppose? Couldabeen the lice? The stench? The general ill-health of our guys? Geesh. The mind boggles.

86 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:10:11am

Dear Ozymandiass from Odessa:

Thanks.

& watch for open registration, I'd like to see your comments here.

87 CanadianBacon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:10:34am

re: #19 Sharmuta

Emmanuel Winner is a deranged nutcase. If the obama people have any clue whatsoever, they'll delete these incredibly insane blogs and ban this user post haste.

You'd think that would be step #1, but the BO team is too busy throwing big problems under the bus - like deranged pastors or unscrupulous financiers - to bother with the little speedbumps like antisemitic/racist Bloggers and their ilk.

Obviously, aside from all the money BO makes from internet contributors, the 'net is not considered part of the message machine like the legacy media; the Dems still haven't taken the CBS/Rather lesson to heart.

Anyone else get that David-with-a-slingshot feeling?

88 cookielady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:10:44am

You know, it actually gives me hope (can I use that word?) to see that there are some people on the left with which I can disagree vehemently regarding political issues, and still be on the same planet mentally regarding the evils of bigotry and anti-Semitism, and the danger of radical Islam.

I was pretty deep into believing there were no real humans on the other side anymore.

Thank you, Ozymandiass and others; you have helped to partially restore my faith in about 50% of Americans.

89 NamDoc67  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:10:50am

One of their commenters asks easily the most stupid, most naive question ever asked by any liberal: "Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?!" Because your candidates consistently inspire and validate their insanity.

90 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:11:17am

What I find truly interesting is how much Ozymandiass from Odessa, TX and Kevin from Pasadena, CA are in a minority over there.
Maybe they really are as bad as we thought, and not just "careless".

91 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:11:28am
92 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:11:39am

I’ve seen enough on LGF to not sleep as well as I’ve use to.

Count lizards when you run out of sheep.

93 vxbush  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:12:16am

re: #70 Occasional Reader

Eh? I must have missed the repeated-male-rape-producing-sex-addicti on scene in Independence Day.

Don't you recall, the dude in the diner kept saying, "The aliens performed sexual 'xperiments on him." Sounds about the same level of stupidity.

94 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:13:42am

re: #88 cookielady Uh, don't y'all think 50% is a tad high? I mean, judging from the number (teeny) of fairly intelligent folks with a moral compass commenting over there, I'd put it at more like 5%.

95 J.S.  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:13:47am

I have a problem with the references to "Jewish hate groups". This suggests that the groups peddling the hatred are Jewish. Well, in point of fact, these are not "Jewish hate groups" -- they are "anti-Jewish hate groups" or Antisemites. Given this kind of ambiguity, I'm not all that well disposed to accepting (at face value) any claims of "dismay" (especially since other Left-wing nut cases have been alleging that the origin of these "hate groups" at the Obama site are "inflitrators" from the right -- in the Leftist vocab, that would be what? "neo-cons" or "jooooz"?)

96 mean Gene  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:13:53am

My biggest problem with the Obama supporters isn't that they still are trying to come up with fictional ''October Surprises," against McCain for things like his yellow teeth or disability payments.
No.
It is that they sit and nod in agreement when Obama says some of the silliest things.
They won't listen to fact checking.
They are stuck on Obama and facts don't matter.
He really has started a religion.
How can you break that spell?
A neo-con is said to be a liberal who had been mugged back into reality.
What can mug these guys back into reality?

97 incanus  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:13:55am
After his spirit had thus been broken, the VC brought in an Iranian Imam who carefully educated McCain in the ways of the cult of Islamo-Marxism, which teaches an Allah-centered faith in the necessity for global revolution led by a totalitarian elite acquiring power through long-term, dedicated subversion of opponent governments like that of America. McCain released to the US thus became an embedded mole a real Manchurian candidate, doing anything, saying anything, to become President. Once he takes the oath of office, he will devastate the economy and set up a socialist dictatorship.

Projection?

John McCain’s infamous temper has been wildly underreported in the media. For instance: The beautiful young woman who is presented to the media as his daughter is really an actress - McCain beat his real daughter to death when she was two and crying with hunger (the McCains do not believe in pampering the young by feeding them). McCain hates children and will not permit any such “stupid mewling whelps” anywhere near him. Aids who make the mistake of even suggesting kissing a baby are guaranteed two weeks in a hospital recovering from various broken bones. Most reporters know this, but fear reprisal from Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch got involved in the cover-up of Mccain’s violence after he pinned Vincent Foster’s arms while Mccain murdered the man.

Libel?

This guy is batshit crazy.

98 seekeroftruth  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:14:06am

I think this one has been sent down the sinkhole :
Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Emmanuel Winner’s Blog: Rumors to spread - pity McCain for having Rush as a friend.

99 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:14:37am

re: #80 realwest

I hope you didn't miss my reply to you on the previous thread:

Your state has a chapter of Vietnam Veterans of America. I'm certain there's also a DAV chapter in your area and a Military Order of the Purple Heart. Those groups will advocate for you and become your personal representative for any dealings you have with the VA. Do not hesitate. You do not need to be disabled, or have received the Purple Heart for these groups to represent you. JUST DO IT. SOON.

100 nikis-knight  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:14:48am

re: #48 Honorary Yooper

On the other, you have an army of righty bloggers anxious to use whatever gets posted over here as indicative of the craziness of Obama's supporters, or an example of the ineptitude of his campaign, or an excuse to question his judgement for allowing an open forum on his own website in the first place. Of course, all that needs the prerequisite that people actually give a rip what gets posted in here. about the truth about Obama, rather than their own projections onto the empty rhetoric and media adoration.

101 laZardo  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:14:54am

re: #92 chinesearithmetic

And speaking of sleep, hopefully the brain shutdown caused by the paradoxes will help me to sleep tonight, because I gotta wake up a little earlier to fetch some resin for class.

/plaster molds, yummy. G'night!

102 looking closely  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:15:17am

You don't HAVE to be an idiot to be liberal. . .

/but it helps!

103 looking closely  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:16:03am

re: #95 J.S.

I have a problem with the references to "Jewish hate groups". This suggests that the groups peddling the hatred are Jewish. Well, in point of fact, these are not "Jewish hate groups" -- they are "anti-Jewish hate groups" or Antisemites. Given this kind of ambiguity, I'm not all that well disposed to accepting (at face value) any claims of "dismay" (especially since other Left-wing nut cases have been alleging that the origin of these "hate groups" at the Obama site are "inflitrators" from the right -- in the Leftist vocab, that would be what? "neo-cons" or "jooooz"?)

The better terminology is "Jew-hating groups".

104 realwest  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:16:15am

re: #97 incanus Batshit crazy? I'm serious when I say I think he's certifiably insane.

105 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:16:24am

Is there any wonder whether Emanuel Winner even got past the first two lines of Ozymandiass from Odessa, TX - comments?


Ozymandiass from Odessa, TX
I have found LGF to be a rather useful and misunderstood website. The Left is sometime prone to looking at the labels rather than the substance in the site. Many liberal go into hate mode the second they realize that LGF is a conservative website and go no further.
106 Iron Fist  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:16:37am

re: #51 Sponge,

Interesting. I won't see much of a change. But you've really got to feel for the Under $19K crowd under Obama. He really soaks the poor.

Surprise. I am shocked. Really, shocked.

[/Deadpan]

107 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:16:46am

re: #101 laZardo

"I gotta wake up a little earlier to fetch some resin for class."

Do you get 72 resins if you're good?

108 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:17:33am

I just went back to re-check the two quoted Winter pieces on BO's site, and they both show up as invalid requests, now. Funny - they were there a couple of minutes ago. Looks to me like the idiots of change are using LGF as a beta test for their brokedik community page.

109 firebreather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:19:01am

re: #96 mean Gene

My biggest problem with the Obama supporters isn't that they still are trying to come up with fictional ''October Surprises," against McCain for things like his yellow teeth or disability payments.
No.
It is that they sit and nod in agreement when Obama says some of the silliest things.
They won't listen to fact checking.
They are stuck on Obama and facts don't matter.
He really has started a religion.
How can you break that spell?
A neo-con is said to be a liberal who had been mugged back into reality.
What can mug these guys back into reality?

Haven't you heard? The oceans will stop rising once Obama is elected.

110 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:19:15am
111 redheadredstate  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:19:29am

I'm sorry to say but whenever I meet anyone these days who says they are a Democrat or read that they are Democrats I automatically think "they're stuck on stupid". I can't even give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I just read an article about the actress Charleze Theron and she was being touted as being "fiercely intelligent" and then she went on and on about Obama and how wonderful he is and I thought oh well she's just another Hollywood idiot and not intelligent at all. At least a few people on the left are starting to get a clue finally. I'm living in hope that these people will finally change their minds about blindly following their Dem candidates and start using their minds for a change. But then I'm a bit of a Pollyanna and it could just be wishful thinking.

112 incanus  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:20:20am

re: #104 realwest

Batshit crazy? I'm serious when I say I think he's certifiably insane.

Yeah, "batshit crazy" is incanus-speak for "certifiably insane" =)

113 NamDoc67  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:20:38am

re: #37 jemima

Historically, I think people are more deranged than ever before. Dr. Sanity told me it was drug use/abuse. There is such a coarsening of culture, the lack of values, morality and ethics that we find ourselves in a realm where every obscene and hideous behavior is sanctioned. We have been cut apart from every tether that holds the mind and spirit in place. For someone to have these thoughts about John McCain suggests this is a very sick and troubled individual, someone who undoubtedly spends a great deal of time viewing pornography. It wouldn't surprise me if this person abuses animals. Doesn't anyone around him notice? Or is this vile sickness simply a lifestyle choice?

As my late friend "Old Jerry" observed years ago, "The day is coming soon when there will not be enough well people to take care of the sick ones."

Drugs is just one facet of the bigger picture. We are witness to the desired end game of Cultural Marxism.

114 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:21:11am

re: #110 buzzsawmonkey

Nothing beside remains.

Haunting.

115 cookielady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:21:37am

re: #94 realwest

Uh, don't y'all think 50% is a tad high? I mean, judging from the number (teeny) of fairly intelligent folks with a moral compass commenting over there, I'd put it at more like 5%.

Probably, real... I was just using the approximate number of those Americans calling themselves Democrats. In other words, in that 50% of Americans, there are some with whom I could have an intelligent and reasoned discussion, and with whom I share certain basic values regardless of our political disagreements.

The rest are people I am disgusted by and walk away from. See?

116 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:22:16am

re: #111 redheadredstate

Oy. Another actress-cum-political scientist a la Carmen "if Bush is elected-rape will be legal" Diaz?

117 cookielady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:23:21am

re: #96 mean Gene

A neo-con is said to be a liberal who had been mugged back into reality.
What can mug these guys back into reality?

Nineteen scumbags managed it for about 5 minutes back in 2001.

118 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:23:36am

re: #96 mean Gene

What can mug these guys back into reality?

If 9/11 couldn't do it, maybe Obama will. We can always hope.

And CHANGE!

119 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:23:57am

re: #117 cookielady

GMTA

120 The Other Les  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:24:11am

re: #106 Iron Fist

,

Interesting. I won't see much of a change. But you've really got to feel for the Under $19K crowd under Obama. He really soaks the poor.

Surprise. I am shocked. Really, shocked.

[/Deadpan]

I'm shocked! Shocked! To find that demagoguery is going on here!

121 NamDoc67  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:24:11am

re: #46 stuiec

I think Emmanuel Winner will hide behind the defense that he's obviously writing satire -- statements too obviously false to be misleading. I think he's wrong: whether he thinks it's satire, whether he's a misguided pro-McCain troll or a gibbering pro-Obama idiot with his humor gyro precessing wildly, what he writes is indeed libelous. But I don't know if anyone at the Obama campaign will care, if they think it's funny.


I doubt McCain would mire the campaign in a libel suit - but his "accomplice" Rupert Murdoch certainly would relish the publicity of a show trial.

122 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:24:16am

Folks, We may have an obligation, as good people, to track and find this Emanuel Winner's family and provide them copies of his writings so they may possibly acquire the psychiatric help Emanuel needs. He's obviously terribly damaged and may be a danger to himself or others. This goes far beyond creative writing.

123 Genosaurer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:26:42am

re: #108 Pullus Iulius

I just went back to re-check the two quoted Winter pieces on BO's site, and they both show up as invalid requests, now. Funny - they were there a couple of minutes ago. Looks to me like the idiots of change are using LGF as a beta test for their brokedik community page.

Why bother paying someone to find offensive blogs when Charles will do it for them?

/They can use the money they're saving to throw a waffle party

124 stinksinhere  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:27:19am

"While sitting around, reading Guns n Ammo, masturbating in your own feces, think 'You know something, I really am f***king crazy?'"

"It's comfortable for you to label me crazy."

"It's very comfortable."

125 cookielady  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:27:30am

re: #119 WriterMom

That's just how we roll, WriterMom!

Let's roll!

126 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:27:39am

re: #116 WriterMom

I really wish, sometimes, that the social stature of actors would return to what it was in Shakespeare's day. In those days, actors were regarded as at about the same social level as beggars; i.e. they were looked upon with contempt. In our society, actors are elevated to gods, and their every pronouncement is regarded as significant.

127 redheadredstate  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:28:18am

Re # 116 WriterMom

re: #111 redheadredstate

Oy. Another actress-cum-political scientist a la Carmen "if Bush is elected-rape will be legal" Diaz?

Oh the article was much, much worse than that. She went on to lament the fact that these "close minded" types were actually daring to oppose same sex marriages. Maybe the fact that she witnessed her mom shooting her dad to death when she was a teenager helped shape why Ms. Theron is the way she is but this just struck me as asinine. She lives in California, did she not see where her own fellow Californian's had voted against same sex marriages? Oh yeah, that's right these are the "little people" what do they know? It takes someone who gets paid millions to portray serial killers to set us all morally straight.

128 Land Shark  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:28:56am

re: #111 redheadredstate

I'm starting to feel the same way. I know a lot of Democrats and I'm trying to avoid talking politics with them because it's hard to contain the desire to slap 'em and scream "What are you doing supporting that empty suit idiot and all that moonbat crap? Grow a f*****g brain, why dont'cha?"

However, I can't resist a little shot. When they ask me what do I think of the election, I tell 'em it's "the hero vs the zero." Drives' em crazy. Hee Hee.

129 busywolf  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:29:13am

Chainge we ... mmmm...cain believe in!

130 firebreather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:29:28am

re: #110 buzzsawmonkey


How about "He (Obama) walks in beauty like the night..." by Byron?

131 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:29:52am

re: #126 crown_of_feathers

"Shut up and sing/act."

132 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:31:07am

re: #127 redheadredstate

I remember when that movie 'Monster' came out and a very left-wing (American) colleague came to recommend it to me. I just about threw up. I will NEVER support a film that seeks to justify murderers. I hate Hollywood amoralism. Feh.

133 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:31:34am
134 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:31:40am

re: #81 Land Shark

Wow! The things in that "Emmanuel Winner" writes are so over the top I suspect even some moonbats would shake their head at them. Extreme moonbattery alert!

Don't bet on it. I've heard people agree with some crazy statements in the "progressive" world.

135 lobosan5  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:32:08am

re: #48 Honorary Yooper

chen...U R a FKTarD! the BIGBOYZ hang around here scrambling for crumbs of Truth!

136 RexFeral  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:32:22am
Add me to the list of donors who are down right angry at the 9/11 “trooth” and Jewish hate groups that have infiltrated Obama’s site. Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?! We had to deal with this with both Dean AND Kerry four years ago too. Some of these groups still hold weekly protests (all ten of them) here in Pasadena California. What gives?

Moonbats of a feather, baby. Moonbats of a feather.

137 firebreather  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:32:27am

re: #127 redheadredstate

Re # 116 WriterMom


Oh the article was much, much worse than that. She went on to lament the fact that these "close minded" types were actually daring to oppose same sex marriages. Maybe the fact that she witnessed her mom shooting her dad to death when she was a teenager helped shape why Ms. Theron is the way she is but this just struck me as asinine. She lives in California, did she not see where her own fellow Californian's had voted against same sex marriages? Oh yeah, that's right these are the "little people" what do they know? It takes someone who gets paid millions to portray serial killers to set us all morally straight.


You folks are looking at this all wrong. Ms. Theron's opinions obviously make her a stellar candidate to become a Supreme Court nominee during an Obama presidency.

138 lobosan5  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:32:51am

re: #86 Ojoe

ditto!

139 jemima  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:34:55am

#113 NamDoc67

You can practically pinpoint the moment it all started going downhill. I'd put it in the late 50s. I was once doing some research on erotica. In the 50s the images in men's magazines such as Playboy were very sweet. These really were "the girl next door". There was a downhill turn once we arrived in the 60s and by the 70s the images were gynecologic.

You can see when Black culture lost its moorings. At the same time as the Civil Rights Movement. Why should that be so? When was it necessary to become two-income families? When did Timothy Leary first get LSD? When did the Commies promise they'd bury us?

140 redheadredstate  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:35:27am

Re # 137 firebreather

LMAO!

141 incanus  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:36:02am

re: #128 Land Shark

I'm starting to feel the same way. I know a lot of Democrats and I'm trying to avoid talking politics with them because it's hard to contain the desire to slap 'em and scream "What are you doing supporting that empty suit idiot and all that moonbat crap? Grow a f*****g brain, why dont'cha?"

However, I can't resist a little shot. When they ask me what do I think of the election, I tell 'em it's "the hero vs the zero." Drives' em crazy. Hee Hee.

Keep in mind what someone said yesterday: there's a big difference between party-loyal Democrats, liberals, and leftists. Leftists are the problem. Talking to them is like trying to build on quicksand ... it doesn't work.

I find that party-loyal Democrats, and many liberals are often shocked then you reason with them and point out things that the current Democrat leadership is for, and against. I know many people who would never consider themselves Republican, bt they can't stand the level of idiocy currently going on with taxes, welfare, personal responsibility, etc. and they refuse to support the party line in this regard.

142 MES41067  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:37:14am

Re: what is being done? Webmaster response requested
By Kevin from Pasadena, CA Today at 5:02 am EDT

Add me to the list of donors who are down right angry at the 9/11 “trooth” and Jewish hate groups that have infiltrated Obama’s site. Why do these sorts of people always seem to gravitate to Democratic candidates!?! We had to deal with this with both Dean AND Kerry four years ago too. Some of these groups still hold weekly protests (all ten of them) here in Pasadena California. What gives?
I wonder hmmmm.

143 Land Shark  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:38:21am

re: #134 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I agree that most would go along with it, that's for sure. That's why I said "some moonbats." Though it well could be even that's optimistic, given the high level of leftist craziness in the Democrat party these days.

144 SagamoreGal  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:43:22am

This is not the Emmanuel Winner I knew.

/Obama speak

145 Land Shark  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:44:36am

re: #141 incanus

I agree, leftists are the problem, but they seem to be the dominant voice in the Democrat party these days. I listen to their elected representatives and more often than not they are spewing leftist propaganda. Some of the Democrats I know are out and out leftists, but even those that aren't seem to be following blindly whatever the Democrats say. At least that's been my recent experience with the Democrats I know. Scary.

146 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:45:01am

About the nutjob blogger...

If McCain really is a drug addicted sodomite Islamo-Marxist Manchurian candidate, why did he bother to join the Republicans? Wouldn't he be right at home in the Democratic Party?

147 eaglewingz08  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:46:18am

This is too funny: "As a Prisoner of War, McCain was subjected to the secret sexual brainwashing techinques of the Viet Cong; day and night he was subjected to male rape, until he begged for more. this sex addiction was enhanced through the use of various narcotics, especially hashish and heroin." I guess that explains why McCain's against same sex marriage? Brings back unwanted memories? But if he begged for more and was sex addicted, how did that suddenly die once he was released? And then what accounts for the brainwashing of this poster's favored candidate Jean Fraude Carrie, did he just willingly take it up the arse for the Viet Cong without the need for any drug inducements?

It also seems to me, as it does to many other sane voices here, that these blogs have been up for a loooooong time on the Obamanation's website without the Administrator or the campaign pulling them down. Seems to me if they were plants, the Administrator and/or the campaign would want them down asap so as not to tarnish the image of the Obamanation. Also seems to me that there would be quite a few comments from the regular democrat visitors vehemently objecting to same before LGF exposed these outrages. What are the odds that the fact that none of the happened, is clear indication of the Obamanation's campaign's agreement and condonation with these outrageous blogs. Of course the Obamanation will say, 'These are not the blogs or the bloggers that I knew for a year!'

148 rike101  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:47:40am

Emmanuel's blog is gone.

149 JustMyView  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:47:48am

re: #132 WriterMom

I remember when that movie 'Monster' came out and a very left-wing (American) colleague came to recommend it to me. I just about threw up. I will NEVER support a film that seeks to justify murderers. I hate Hollywood amoralism. Feh.

The movie doesn't attempt to justify murder. It just tells what happened to Aileen Wuornos and what she did. At the end, she is convicted, and it's clear she is going to be executed, which has since occurred.

150 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:49:50am

re: #149 JustMyView

I didn't say to justify murder. I said to justify murderers and 'explain' why they did what they did, bad childhood-abuse-failed love affairs blah blah. By 'it just tells what happened' - do you mean it was a sympathetic portrayal-or not?

If she was executed-good.

151 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:55:36am

re: #150 WriterMom

The fact is child abuse screws up kids. Many (but by no means all) grow up to be abusive themselves, and even murderers. People need to know that and understand why good parenting is so important. Evil murderers don't just "happen" they are raised that way. Sad but very true.

152 JustMyView  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:55:43am

re: #150 WriterMom

I didn't say to justify murder. I said to justify murderers and 'explain' why they did what they did, bad childhood-abuse-failed love affairs blah blah. By 'it just tells what happened' - do you mean it was a sympathetic portrayal-or not?

If she was executed-good.

I'd say it was a fairly straight-on portrayal. Some really bad things did happen to her, but, of course, committing multiple murders is not a great way to respond.

153 MrC_5150  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:58:58am

re: #148 rike101

Emmanuel's blog is gone.

Hope my telephone call to Obama's campaign headquarters helped. I called just 15 minutes ago. The woman I spoke with was disgusted by what I read to her and told me she'd immediately call someone about it.

154 NamDoc67  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 9:59:19am

re: #139 jemima

#113 NamDoc67

You can practically pinpoint the moment it all started going downhill. I'd put it in the late 50s. I was once doing some research on erotica. In the 50s the images in men's magazines such as Playboy were very sweet. These really were "the girl next door". There was a downhill turn once we arrived in the 60s and by the 70s the images were gynecologic.

You can see when Black culture lost its moorings. At the same time as the Civil Rights Movement. Why should that be so? When was it necessary to become two-income families? When did Timothy Leary first get LSD? When did the Commies promise they'd bury us?

You have the timing right. It all percolated underground from the mid-1930's on. But it exploded into the open in the 60's because of several convenient and handy pretexts arriving on the scene simultaneously.

" . . . at the same time as the Civil Rights Movement . . ." The fight for civil rights was anathema to the real Cultural Marxists, since it opened the possibility of Americans of color finally assimilating and succeeding in America. So it became necessary to promote the anti-assimilationist "Black Power" movement and its imitators. Obama is a direct descendant of that movement, as his mentors' philosophy demonstrates. His candidacy is only possible because of the unresolved white guilt and continuing black dispossession that would otherwise have been eliminated a generation ago by an un-derailed civil rights movement. Race pimps like Sharpton and the extortion racketeer Jesse Jackson are examples of the beneficiaries of this ongoing scam.

They were also agnostic on the Vietnam War except that it provided a pretext for mass mobilization of anti-military and anti-government thinking among the young and the mainstreaming of this point of view. This required an enormous dose of dishonest propaganda, but the media, being already fully infiltrated by the Cultural Marxists for a generation, was all too happy to oblige.

155 MrC_5150  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:02:15am

re: #153 MrC_5150

Actually I called over a half hour ago. Sheesh, time flies.

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:11:01am
157 RexFeral  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:19:06am

re: #154 NamDoc67

You have the timing right. It all percolated underground from the mid-1930's on. But it exploded into the open in the 60's because of several convenient and handy pretexts arriving on the scene simultaneously.

I remember reading a book entitled (I think) The Dream and the Nightmare some years ago. The author (whom I know longer remember) proposed that the sixties provided two definitions of liberation, one of which was essentially helpful and the other was essentially harmful. The helpful version had to do with empowering the voiceless and included the civil rights movement and such things. The harmful involved personal "liberation." Tune in, turn on, and drop out. Abandon personal responsibility for you family, your children, and yourself. So-called personal liberation was survivable if your family was fairly well off and you had support systems to fall back on but if you were poor and black, your personal liberation led to a lifetime of failure and misery.

158 infidelia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:31:37am

re: #153 MrC_5150

Hope my telephone call to Obama's campaign headquarters helped. I called just 15 minutes ago. The woman I spoke with was disgusted by what I read to her and told me she'd immediately call someone about it.

Thanks for the cleanup. Winner was truly breathtaking is his ability to mix and match gonzo conspiracy theories. Vietcong-conspirator Imam creating an Allah-centered totalitarian Manchurian Candidate who all good Obama supporters should fear and oppose. What's wrong with this picture?

159 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:55:17am
160 kynna  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:58:16am

I Winner for real? That's some crazy stuff there. Although I do think many of Obama's minions would believe it (I mean they're Obamanauts, right?) it takes a special kind of brain to actually come up with that kind of stuff.

Just thinkin' the guys so out there, could he be a hoax? True, nobody removed the posts and that's a major concern, but is the original guy having some fun?

161 redheadredstate  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:59:27am

# 157 RexFeral

I remember reading a book entitled (I think) The Dream and the Nightmare some years ago. The author (whom I know longer remember) proposed that the sixties provided two definitions of liberation, one of which was essentially helpful and the other was essentially harmful. The helpful version had to do with empowering the voiceless and included the civil rights movement and such things. The harmful involved personal "liberation." Tune in, turn on, and drop out. Abandon personal responsibility for you family, your children, and yourself. So-called personal liberation was survivable if your family was fairly well off and you had support systems to fall back on but if you were poor and black, your personal liberation led to a lifetime of failure and misery.

I've thought for years that Charles Dickens was a true liberal in the best sense of the word. He shined a light on the inequities of his day in such a way that was extremely helpful. The 60's generation, however completely negated any of their good intentions with their drugs, free love, whatever gets you through the night mentality. Sadly it seems to me that the legacy of the 60's leans more towards the harmful side rather than the helpful.

162 hboulware  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:01:36am

The pages linked are now gone down the memory hole. Wow that was fast

163 godfrey  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:13:00am

re: #162 hboulware

Why are we doing the work of identifying the objectionable content for them? Why not leave the objectionable garbage in place? It's their problem, not ours.

164 hippieforlife  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:16:36am

re: #161 redheadredstate

If some of these leftists lived through the 60's they sure have forgotten quite a bit. So many of the things that they were in favor of then went no where. They were all hot about the environment but really didn't want to actually "do" anything about it. Hence, the problem still exists and a new generation of tree-huggers has been formed.

Yet, these same lefties want our government to take care of everything; health care, education, healthy eating habits, the environment, high gas prices, etc, etc.

These people are like their saint Obama. They "are full of sound and fury signifying nothing".

165 Boxy_brown  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:17:13am
McCain hates children and will not permit any such “stupid mewling whelps” anywhere near him. Aids who make the mistake of even suggesting kissing a baby are guaranteed two weeks in a hospital recovering from various broken bones.

LOL! SOLD!

Anyone who hates children can't be all bad.
-W. C. Fields

166 american jewess in jerusalem  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:20:42am

re: #76 Ringo the Gringo

The problem is that these days very few "liberals" are actually liberal....Most people who now identify themselves as liberal are, in fact, Leftists - which is the antithesis of liberal - or they are simply mush-headed, emotionalists who watch too much daytime television.


Agreed. And I think it would be very neighborly of us all to stop denigrating "liberals" per se and instead start using "leftist" in its place. Let's help our liberals reclaim their label from these raving lunatics on the left.

167 NamDoc67  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:27:10am

re: #157 RexFeral

Destroying the society by destroying its constituent parts is the idea. So child birth, marriage, sexual fidelity, restraint and monogamy all have to be delegitimized, along with the religious basis by which these are validated. The spiritual and psychological destruction of Western Civilization is seen as possible because the root of that destruction lies within human nature. The political virtue of personal freedom can be perverted into the socially destructive and personally self-destructive bondage of selfism, entitlement, dependence, irresponsibility, promiscity, moral relativism, grievance, etc.

The Obama phenomenon reveals the deep need in this country for something greater than self to believe in. Unfortunately, the game for the Marxists was to deplete all resources for intelligent analysis and all substantial grounds for faith, so that the masses could be easily induced to believe in anything when the time came. Thus the explicit religious appeal by, and passion for, the deceiver charlatan, Obama.

168 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 12:10:41pm

re: #153 MrC_5150

Hope my telephone call to Obama's campaign headquarters helped. I called just 15 minutes ago. The woman I spoke with was disgusted by what I read to her and told me she'd immediately call someone about it.

Ya know, it's one thing to quote the blog, but another to call the enemy campaign and tell them about it. What's next? Are you volunteering to put up Obama posters too?

169 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 12:32:30pm

I don't think all liberals are idiots. Just misguided.

170 angst  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 12:44:35pm

Hmm, I thought there was something to that nic:

From Wikipedia:

The central theme of Ozymandias is mankind's hubris. In fourteen short lines, Shelley condenses the history of not only Ozymandias' rise, peak, and fall, but also that of an entire civilization.

A thinking liberal. Well, thanks, Ozzymandias!

re: #160 kynna

I Winner for real? That's some crazy stuff there. Although I do think many of Obama's minions would believe it (I mean they're Obamanauts, right?) it takes a special kind of brain to actually come up with that kind of stuff.

Just thinkin' the guys so out there, could he be a hoax? True, nobody removed the posts and that's a major concern, but is the original guy having some fun?

I agree. I think he's most likely a sockpuppet of the strawman type. There are whackos on the Right, just not as many as on the Left. The problem is, his arguments are so absurd, they kind of blend right in so no one knows he's actually a rightwing nutjob. Plausible believability, I guess.

171 Former Belgian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 1:50:57pm

re: #70 Occasional Reader

Eh? I must have missed the repeated-male-rape-producing-sex-addicti on scene in Independence Day.

This sounds more like a Dutch movie called "Spetters" by (I think) Paul Verhoeven before he went to Hollywood and made it big there. What follows below will give you an idea of what, even in 1980, could be shown in a mainstream Dutch movie theater:

It's about a bunch of working class kids engaged in amateur motorcycle racing, and their "love" life. One of the guys earns a living of sorts by blackmailing homosexuals that meet for anonymous trysts on the park: a "gay biker" gang decide to teach him a lesson, catch him, and gang-sodomize him (the scene is very graphic). He then discovers that he actually liked it (don't ask!) and shacks up with one of his erstwhile rapists.

172 Former Belgian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:04:37pm

re: #151 Kenneth

The fact is child abuse screws up kids. Many (but by no means all) grow up to be abusive themselves, and even murderers. People need to know that and understand why good parenting is so important. Evil murderers don't just "happen" they are raised that way. Sad but very true.

I've often run into the attitude that some people are afraid to actually try to understand what motivates evil people, or evil organizations, or evil ideologies, out of fear that their understanding will lead to forgiveness. As in the French proverb "Comprendre tout est pardonner tout" (to understand all is to forgive all).

However, like Robert Heinlein, I learned that "some things, the more you understand the more you loathe them".

173 Gretchen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:37:45pm

Why John McCain is stealing Obama's thunder "once he takes the oath of office, he will devastate the economy and set up a socialist dictatorship".

Hmmmm...

174 Dadzilla  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:51:56pm

Whaaaat? You mean we are not a hate site? The only reason I signed up was to learn to goosestep. Now what am I going to do with my free time?

175 vbspurs  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:57:38pm

"As hard as it to imagine, they’re looking out for everyone and are simply worried about the future like everyone else. They just think liberals are idiots."

Ozymandiass from Odessa, if you read this one day, let me just chime in by saying your sentiments and logic about the situation fill me with hope.

Not the political rhetoric of hope, but hope normal people have when they see a breakthrough from another human being. Thank you for writing what you did, when you did -- that took guts, and it's my opinion that we're all the better for it.

I also commend other Obama supporters at his site who have engaged in an honest discussion about the situation, asking for answers about professional laxness and tolerance for hate speech.

Bottom line is, that's all we really wanted to ask too. We all need to be vigilant of the hate around us, and when we see it, not to let it engulf our cause.

Good luck, with cordial greetings from an LGF member.

176 Ban Draoi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:34:33pm

re: #132 WriterMom

Every time I read about the left supporting amoral characters or deeds, the thought always occurs to me, "what would the response be if THEY were the target of such; would it be cute and funny then?"

177 nemesis  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 11:49:27pm

Today was a nice day.

178 Yashmak  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 7:28:19am

I suspect Ozymandiass is someone who comments here. . . simply because I've SEEN someone comment here under the name Ozymandius (either here or at Michelle Malkin's 'blog).

179 Bosk  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 9:27:01am

We make known ourselves by those we associate with. B. Hussien Obama, If you lie with dogs you should expect to accumulate flees.

180 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 3:32:30pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

Your party's been hijacked by freaks.

Sharmuta, I usually agree with you, but this is way off base. It IS a party of freaks and has been so for over 60 years. The hijacking stopped long ago when the highjacked became sympathetic to their hijackers.

181 SunCat  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:17:58pm

Hello, Democrats. I used to support you. Now I do not.
Your party has been hijacked by freaks. For that reason I no longer support you. Your movement believes that ethnicity or collective identity is everything and there is no such thing as true or false or right or wrong. You have forgotten about shared humanity or even shared citizenship. I have written this in simple language in the hopes that postmodernists cannot distort my meaning. Of course they will anyway.

You have about four months to make up for the last fifteen years.

182 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 8:43:22pm

OK, wha'd I miss.
Is this the drinkin' and/or boobs thread?


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