Rest in pieces

I hope it's dr. zawahiri!

Is the new Pakistani government on board with this or not? I heard that they stopped their formal "agreement" with the tribal leaders in the provinces bordering Afghanistan...

All they could find was a piece of forehead with a birthmark attched.....

Bombing Cambodia.

re: #2 Sharmuta

I hope it's dr. zawahiri!

Bumpy go thumpy

UPDATE: Zawahiri Killed?

YES! Please, God- let it be true!

re: #2 Sharmuta

I hope it's dr. zawahiri!

He's a doctor. He should be able to sew himself back together.

"That's me all over!"

re: #2 Sharmuta

I hope it's dr. zawahiri!

Me too! But chances are the terrorists will kill a bunch of kids and women and trot the bodies out for the cameras....then the MSM will denounce those that strive to keep them free to lie about their nation.

Maybe it was a tall gent attached to a dialysis machine.

Has Howard Dean questioned the timing yet?

That last batch of dialysis machine with the embedded GPS transponder finally paid off.

Re-fuel and send the drones back out

Ouch!

re: #8 stuiec

He's a doctor. He should be able to sew himself back together.

"That's me all over!"

Physician, heal thyself?

Another Al Qaeda #3 is pining for the fjords.

Forehead bruises make nice targets for the laser

#2 Al-Qaeda #30-something going to collect his 72 white grapes?

That's some change I can hope for right there...

Meanwhile - Mark Udall wants to kill Osama bin Laden.

/doesn't have a clue that he's already dead

re: #12 jcm

That last batch of dialysis machine with the embedded GPS transponder finally paid off.

Good one! Can you imagine the media reaction if it was that sack of crud bin laden? I, however, think that whore has been dead for a very long time. Otherwise they'd have decent video of him instead of the retreads they release.

I just hope no one from Obama was meeting with them at the time..

/fingers crossed

Zawahiri a pink mist?
That would make my day !

re: #4 coquimbojoe

All they could find was a piece of forehead with a birthmark attched.....

That's nurture, not nature.

The BBC is squaking about this; tisk tisk collateral damage & death

All sad of course, really.

It is a tragic world at this point in history.

re: #21 BingoBunny

I just hope no one from Obama was meeting with them at the time..

/fingers crossed

hahaha

You never know with that bunch.

Zawahiri?

Impossible.

McCain has him locked away in Arizona to whip out just before Election Day.

Pakistan condemns ‘cowardly’ U.S. attack; 11 dead.

Usually, when they say "cowardly," it means we got somebody.

"If Bush were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd bomb the White House & Pentagon. Besides, everybody knows bin Laden & Zawahiri have been working for the CIA for decades..."

--94% of Ivy-League Professors in the Humanities

re: #20 SpartanWoman

Good one! Can you imagine the media reaction if it was that sack of crud bin laden? I, however, think that whore has been dead for a very long time. Otherwise they'd have decent video of him instead of the retreads they release.

Yeah, his been dead a looong time.
Couldn't resisted a dialysis crack.

What do you expect? The "contradictory" report's from Reuters. (;

We should "lease" the border region from Pakistan for five years for a few billion dollars or so... then do there what we did in Afghanistan... Then give it back to the Pakistanis when we're done with it...

re: #4 coquimbojoe

That ain't a birthmark - it's a prayer-bump.

Rumor rumor rumor.....

I'll wait for the DNA tests.

I for one will pray we did send ANY big AlQ fish to the holy virgins...

And as for collateral damage? The fact that this would be poo-poohed is exactly why we are so damn afraid to execute a war properly... The hand wringing is dangerous...

That's no birthmark!
That's his ''raisin'' from banging his head against the rug 47 times a day during those 5 prayer periods.
(How do Muslims ever get anything done, anyway?)

Does this mean muslimah can join the jihadi splodeydopes now?

48 hour rule. . .

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan said on Wednesday an “unprovoked and cowardly” air strike by U.S. forces had killed 11 Pakistani soldiers on its border with Afghanistan and undermined the basis of security cooperation.

This from a government and military that hasn't the balls to take control of huge areas of its own territory.

re: #37 looking closely

48 hour rule. . .

For sure...

re: #33 Sponge

Rumor rumor rumor.....

I'll wait for the DNA tests.

Yeah, me too. I like that they can no longer feel safe in Pakistan though....

Pakistan said on Wednesday an “unprovoked and cowardly” air strike by U.S. forces had killed 11 Pakistani soldiers on its border with Afghanistan and undermined the basis of security cooperation.

Not likely- that's more the style of jihadis than the American forces. I don't buy it.

re: #3 stuiec

The Pakistani press has been reporting that the agreement has been dead for a while now. I would give you a link, but it was reported last week in the "Daily Times" that this was the case.

re: #35 mean Gene

(How do Muslims ever get anything done, anyway?)

Sword to the throat of an infidel.

That was a rhetorical question? Right?

re: #38 Ben Hur

This from a government and military that hasn't the balls to take control of huge areas of its own territory.

Consider those 'soliders' KIA's... Hopefully they were supporting the US, not hindering our operations...

re: #37 looking closely

48 hour rule. . .

I agree- but I'm cautiously optimistic.

As much as I'd like to believe we got Zawahiri, I say this needs AT LEAST a 24 hour rule.
Dude's been rumored to have been killed more often than I can count.

“unprovoked and cowardly” air strike

Real men strap bombs on themselves and enter cafes, etc.

Good to see that Maher is writing Paki press releases on his off time.

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Another Al Qaeda #3 is pining for the fjords.

10 rem al q prg
20 x = 1
30 for x = 1 to 100000000
40 kill al qaeda #x
50 next

Pakistan said on Wednesday an “unprovoked and cowardly” air strike by U.S. forces had killed 11 Pakistani soldiers on its border with Afghanistan and undermined the basis of security cooperation.

Of course stoning defenseless rape victims is courageous in the eyes of these jackoffs.

re: #35 mean Gene

They are too busy inventing ways to kill each other in between prayers, at least they are trying to invent SOMETHING!

re: #46 realwest

As much as I'd like to believe we got Zawahiri, I say this needs AT LEAST a 24 hour rule.
Dude's been rumored to have been killed more often than I can count.

It will take at least that long to sponge up some samples, 12 hours to send to DC, and 48 for testing.

84 hour rule.....

re: #47 Ben Hur

Real men strap bombs on themselves and enter cafes, etc.

Good to see that Maher is writing Paki press releases on his off time.

Yeah, the whole 'unprovoked and cowardly' is insane... If Zawahiri happens to be in that area, I would say that is provocation, since we are at war with him and his group...

to say otherwise is just another example of media bias.

re: #43 The Other Les

Sword to the throat of an infidel.

That was a rhetorical question? Right?

Yeah.....without Dhimmi's they would be forced to actually get up in the AM and get something productive done.....maybe.

re: #48 ec marm

Good code - NEXT.

re: #20 SpartanWoman

Good one! Can you imagine the media reaction if it was that sack of crud bin laden? I, however, think that whore has been dead for a very long time. Otherwise they'd have decent video of him instead of the retreads they release.

I can imagine the DKos reaction--
"The only reason to use air strikes and missles is to avoid a trial that would have revealed embarassing information about Bushco!"

re: #51 jcm

sponge up some samples

/this should rotate

re: #30 laZardo

What do you expect? The "contradictory" report's from Reuters. (;

I'm waiting on the A_w/TP to claim that all we hit was a madrassa filled with innocent little darlings, who were all going to grow up to be the Obamas of their country until the evil imperialists cut their 'holy' lives short...

I will be floored if the A_w/TP or AFP use the word terrorist to describe the recently disassembled departed .

U.S. says it coordinated border raid with Pakistan

The U.S. military said on Wednesday that an air and artillery raid which Pakistan said killed 11 of its soldiers on the Afghan border was aimed at Taliban militants and had been coordinated with Pakistan.

"...Coalition forces informed the Pakistan Army that they were being engaged by anti-Afghan forces ...," the U.S. military said in a statement. It added that coalition forces were engaged by anti-Afghan forces during an operation "that had been previously coordinated with Pakistan".

Pakistan earlier denounced the air strike as "unprovoked and cowardly", saying it killed 11 soldiers and undermined the basis of security cooperation.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

re: #42 Shr_Nfr

The Pakistani press has been reporting that the agreement has been dead for a while now. I would give you a link, but it was reported last week in the "Daily Times" that this was the case.

Of course what they say publicly and what they encourage privately are two different things.

Naturally, the BBC's Taliban sources demand fair & balanced reporting:

"...Maulvi Umar, spokesman for a pro-Taleban militant group in Pakistan, told the BBC: "The Afghan army and the US troops there were trying to set up a checkpost on the border.

"So we launched an attack on them from several sides and caused serious harm - and then the US and Nato forces began a series of air strikes...

Bagdad Bob says "the infidels attempted to kill some holy warriors but their missiles went astray and blew up a Starbucks in East LA."

Obama suggests we should have tried diplomacy first.

"...air strike by U.S. forces had killed 11 Pakistani soldiers on its border with Afghanistan "

I wonder if that could have been the "Z-man's" security detail?

No matter- the spin will be a botched attack killed friends, invalids, widows, and orphans...

Still I wonder - what really happened?

We will know if we got the doctor when all his press releases are in the form of poor audio tapes.

UPDATE at 6/11/08 9:11:52 am:

A contradictory report: Pakistan condemns ‘cowardly’ U.S. attack; 11 dead.

Well that's a humdinger of an update.

Somebody in Pakistan doesn't have his act together. Let's hope it's the Pakistani security flack, and not the American one.

"I just think we all need to shart showing a lot more compassion for Zawahiri..."

--Richard Gere, Matt Damon, Sean Penn, et al.

Pakistani military condemned the killing of the 11 paramilitary soldiers, including an officer.

Why is that screaming militants paid by the tribal agency to me?

Y'all realize we've now got BBC and AP pissed off at Reuters for, ya know, letting the truth slip out!
Bad Reuters, Bad. Down boy, down!

When BHO is prez the headlines would read:
"Brave Coalition Troops End Terrorists Rampage"
"Free Nations Everywhere Thank BHO's Leadership"

like the folks above, we have been hearing these things for years now...I think the 48 hr rule should be extended to the 72 hr rule, but thats just me being finicky.

I think the real story is that the badlands of Pakistan are no longer a haven. A little drone action goes a long, long way.

The BBC coverage is telling. The reason they are so obsessive about collateral damage is not their intuitive anti-Americanism; its vestiginal guilt about WWII's bombing campaigns. It's a fact.

re: #63 CIA Reject

It was a Wedding reception.

re: #31 anotherindyfilmguy

We couldn't lease it from the Pakistanis because the Pakistani government in Islamabad doesn't even control those territories. They're pretty much autonomous and inviting of terrorists and the scum of the earth in the process.

re: #61 VegasRick
"blew up a Starbucks in East LA." What makes you think they went astray?!?

Anyone know whether those hundreds of thousands of Pakistani lawyers that burned Musharraf in effigy this week, are SHARIA lawyers?

Just wondering.

re: #70 hennigan's wake

I think the real story is that the badlands of Pakistan are no longer a haven. A little drone action goes a long, long way.

/what you said

Strata-sphere Update: US-NATO forces coordinated the attacks on militants with the Pakistani Military before the attacks took, place - which tells me these must have been high valued targets:...Coalition forces informed the Pakistan Army that they were being engaged by anti-Afghan forces ...,

” the U.S. military said in a statement. It added that coalition forces were engaged by anti-Afghan forces during an operation “that had been previously coordinated with Pakistan”

So, were those Frontier Corps members actually covering for a high valued target?

re: #71 Cap'n DOC

It was a Wedding reception.

Really? I thought we got all of those already. I was hoping for a baby milk factory myself...

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re: #70 hennigan's wake

like the folks above, we have been hearing these things for years now...I think the 48 hr rule should be extended to the 72 hr rule, but thats just me being finicky.

I think the real story is that the badlands of Pakistan are no longer a haven. A little drone action goes a long, long way.

The BBC coverage is telling. The reason they are so obsessive about collateral damage is not their intuitive anti-Americanism; its vestiginal guilt about WWII's bombing campaigns. It's a fact.

Indeed; there's a lot of discussion as to whether Harris's city-busting campaigns were effective military operations, or just revenge.

re: #73 realwest

"blew up a Starbucks in East LA." What makes you think they went astray?!?

Because they were aiming for the code pink whackpacks in san francisco! That's why!

re: #76 Terp Mole

Strata-sphere Update: US-NATO forces coordinated the attacks on militants with the Pakistani Military before the attacks took, place - which tells me these must have been high valued targets:...Coalition forces informed the Pakistan Army that they were being engaged by anti-Afghan forces ...,

So, were those Frontier Corps members actually covering for a high valued target?

I think the Pakistani release is pandering to the folks at home.

"We're not cooperating with the Americans! No no no!"

Oddly enough,
"...Late on Tuesday, Pakistan's military denounced a report by the US-funded Rand corporation accusing Pakistan's intelligence services and its paramilitaries of supporting Taleban insurgents with information and training. ..."

from that BBC report

re: #63 CIA Reject

"...air strike by U.S. forces had killed 11 Pakistani soldiers on its border with Afghanistan "

I wonder if that could have been the "Z-man's" security detail?

No matter- the spin will be a botched attack killed friends, invalids, widows, and orphans...

Still I wonder - what really happened?

My Helmand-Lubbock bush telegraph is reporting a rumor of exactly that this morning: The dead soldiers were in fact ISI men collaborating with the fish, who may not have been Zawahiri but the one and only bigger one.

re: #76 Terp Mole

Strata-sphere Update: US-NATO forces coordinated the attacks on militants with the Pakistani Military before the attacks took, place - which tells me these must have been high valued targets:...Coalition forces informed the Pakistan Army that they were being engaged by anti-Afghan forces ...,

So, were those Frontier Corps members actually covering for a high valued target?

Exactly what went through my mind first. If the U.S. passed along word that they would hit, then the people close by may have been trying to protect or evacuate the Hitteee.

re: #81 alegrias

I used to work there... good for them.

re: #76 Terp Mole

So, were those Frontier Corps members actually covering for a high valued target?

You mean like the 100+ Pakistani company of soldiers that surrendered to the Taliban fighters without firing a shot in protest?

It's a valid question....

re: #83 Sunlight

Exactly what went through my mind first. If the U.S. passed along word that they would hit, then the people close by may have been trying to protect or evacuate the Hitteee.

We're bombing Hittites now? Have we no respect for ancient cultures?!?

/

re: #84 Sunlight

I used to work there... good for them.

* * *
Thank you for your service! They also serve, who worked at Rand!

re: #82 shiplord kirel

My Helmand-Lubbock bush telegraph is reporting a rumor of exactly that this morning: The dead soldiers were in fact ISI men collaborating with the fish, who may not have been Zawahiri but the one and only bigger one.

G*d willing!

re: #87 alegrias

haha

re: #32 Cap'n DOC

That ain't a birthmark - it's a prayer-bump.

I'd like to tee-off on that prayer-bump, on a nice, green fairway.

re: #87 alegrias

It's a tough job there by the pier, but someone's got to do it.
/

An extra benefit of the UAV hits is the video for posterity.

/think Zarqawi

re: #92 jamgarr

An extra benefit of the UAV hits is the video for posterity.

/think Zarqawi

Although I think that maybe the Zarq hit was bombs filmed by a UAV (or was it guncam?)

re: #55 nikis-knight

I can imagine the DKos reaction--
"The only reason to use air strikes and missles is to avoid a trial that would have revealed embarassing information about Bushco!"

Or the troofers - they had to kill the Pakistanis because they knew Bushco carried out 9/11.

Just a side note on this -- I have it from some authoritative sources who will remain unamed that since the change in gov'ts in Pakistan the back channel military chatter has changed.

e.g. the old way was:

"we're making a strike" - US
"Ok we'll not say a word until forced to" Pakistan

The new way is:

"we are making a strike" - US

"Ok, but we are going to report that civilians were killed" - Pakistan

Unless the Pakistan army men were in plain clothes, it would be easy to identify them from the Predator.
Even if they were cooperating with the target, the political risks are so high that it would take a huge pay-off for the controllers to give the go-ahead under those circumstances.
I think this is a very big fish indeed. It remains to be seen whether they actually got him.

We know where these bastards are hiding out. Waiting for them to crawl out from under a rock is taking too long. And it just allows them more time to breed more snakes. How many bunker busters would it take to turn a mountain into a anthill?

Tired of walking on eggshells with Pakistan. What would Patton do?

I agree with several other posters here.
I think we "coordinated" with Pakistan, knowing full well that the ISM guys would go warn the terrorists and lead us right to them.

re: #76 Terp Mole

So, were those Frontier Corps members actually covering for a high valued target?

If by that you mean carefully ignoring, that was my guess, too.

re: #90 Roentgen

I'd like to tee-off on that prayer-bump, on a nice, green fairway.

Hopefully, your golf swing is erratic.

re: #78 incanus

Indeed; there's a lot of discussion as to whether Harris's city-busting campaigns were effective military operations, or just revenge.

On that scale, small difference.

One more thing.

The Romans would have displayed some heads on a pike. IMHO this is the only thing they understand. I'd spike their skulls on the fence around gitmo.

re: #78 incanus

Indeed; there's a lot of discussion as to whether Harris's city-busting campaigns were effective military operations, or just revenge.

I note that historians like to say that the German war production increased even with the air raids, to say that the air raids were ineffective.
But that doesn't give us the proper comparison. We need to know (but probably can't) what the production would have been without the air raids, and compare it to the figure with the air raids.

Add that to the fighter aircraft that were needed to defend the cities and therefore not available for ground support or other offensive operations, and we might find that the bombing missions were useful.

re: #102 chingachgook

One more thing.

The Romans would have displayed some heads on a pike. IMHO this is the only thing they understand. I'd spike their skulls on the fence around gitmo.

Not around Gitmo. Those terrorists are already nabbed. We want other terrorists to see them where the heads can change their minds. I think the heads also should be slathered in lard and pigskin, with a sign "No virgins for him"

re: #31 anotherindyfilmguy

We should "lease" the border region from Pakistan for five years for a few billion dollars or so... then do there what we did in Afghanistan... Then give it back to the Pakistanis when we're done with it...

Indy -

Buy it and give it to Afghanistan - The same Tribes live on BOTH sides anyway. Kind of a Central Asian Gadsden Purchase.

-S-

Just a footnote:
the correspondent reporting for the BBC from Islamabad, a certain Barbara Plett, is on record as having cried when arafish died ... she was reporting from Israel then.

re: #35 mean Gene

That's no birthmark!
That's his ''raisin'' from banging his head against the rug 47 times a day during those 5 prayer periods.
(How do Muslims ever get anything done, anyway?)

Back in their glorious days of conquest, their kafir slaves did all the work while they prayed and collected the Jizya.

I heard this reported on the BBC World Service by that beeb hag Barbara Plett who is known for crying at Arafat's burial.
She gave a big report on civilians killed but not a word of Zawahri.
Figures.

re: #108 RobCon

I heard this reported on the BBC World Service by that beeb hag Barbara Plett who is known for crying at Arafat's burial.
She gave a big report on civilians killed but not a word of Zawahri.
Figures.

Well, if she didn't cry over Zawahri, maybe we really didn't get him.

The attack "hit at the very basis of cooperation and sacrifice with which Pakistani soldiers are supporting the coalition in the war against terror," the military said.

"Such acts of aggression do not serve the common cause of fighting terrorism," it said in a statement.

The military said this? WTF does that mean? Why don't they give a spokesperson name? Sounds way to suspicious to me. Maybe this is actually a Reuters reporter aka terrorist spokesperson making these bogus statement that the MSM love to quote?

Be very suspicious of any named or unnamed Pakistani official, commenting on this attack. They don't control the area, so how would they get an accurate report on who was killed so fast?

Besides, the Taliban spokesman's report agrees with the US report as to who was killed:

A spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban said they attacked U.S. and Afghan forces as they were setting up a position on the Pakistan side of the border, and eight Taliban were killed and nine wounded in subsequent U.S. bombing.

The militant spokesman, Maulvi Omar, said by telephone he had heard that U.S. aircraft had also bombed a nearby Pakistani post, while the Taliban had captured seven Afghan troops and shot down a helicopter.

According to the Taliban, no Pakistani soldiers were involved.

Oh please, oh please let this be true. I've always wanted to get Doc Z since 911. If this turns out to be true I'm adding a new holiday to the redhead household. Doc Z Day will be celebrated with much dancing and the serving of pork chops.

I was wondering if you were ever going to stop this rant about the Obama website... apparently it was short lived.

Fingers and toes crossed we got the Z-monkey!

Can't say I'm surprised at the BBC coverage, after all it's very hard to report the legitimate Allied point of view when all your sources are "embedded" with those brave Islamist school burners.

Check out their report on Lord Elis-Thomas of the Welsh Assembly emailing the Welsh Assembly (that's the fake Welsh "parliament") Members saying they shouldn't meet with the Israeli ambassador, a meeting arranged by the only MUSLIM member! Of course, Al Beeb forgot to mention that Lord Elis-Thomas is a leading Welsh Communist, left his wife for the American CND nutjob Marjorie Thompson, and is the leader of the racist Plaid Cymru (Welsh Nationalists)

FIST PUMP TO ALL

/new greeting protocol from the Obama family

I love spy planes... Especially when they kill terrorists.

re: #103 Kosh's Shadow

I note that historians like to say that the German war production increased even with the air raids, to say that the air raids were ineffective.
But that doesn't give us the proper comparison. We need to know (but probably can't) what the production would have been without the air raids, and compare it to the figure with the air raids.

Add that to the fighter aircraft that were needed to defend the cities and therefore not available for ground support or other offensive operations, and we might find that the bombing missions were useful.

Hitting point targets was nearly impossible, area bombing was a blunt tool, but it's all we had.

re: #117 itellu3times

Hitting point targets was nearly impossible, area bombing was a blunt tool, but it's all we had.

It was?

The 8th Air Force (USAAF) made a point of "precision bombing", which meant daylight raids, formation flying, and attendant large losses. Raids were against specific targets using the (at the time) state-of-the-art Norden bombsight.

RAF tactics were different; they indeed did area bombing against city centers, because area bombing is really only effective against cities.

It's an age old argument and one we probably won't resolve here.

re: #102 chingachgook

The brits used to know this.
Heads on pikes.