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Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:45:22 pm PDT
Here’s an open thread for a very warm Wednesday afternoon, as I try to wean myself from my addiction to the LGF Spy.
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Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:45:22 pm PDT
Here’s an open thread for a very warm Wednesday afternoon, as I try to wean myself from my addiction to the LGF Spy.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:47:26pm |
LGF Spies... like those scary Israeli movers... someone call Pat Buchanan!
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:47:43pm |
Blues skies...nothin' but blue skies from now on...
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:48:10pm |
I just got back from the "Forest" - Dave Johnson's site - and I feel like I need to wash.
Arguing with some of those folks is like wrestling with a pig: you get dirty and sweaty and the pig enjoys it.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:48:17pm |
Wean oneself from LGF Spy?
Wean one's addiction why?
You should use it with an eye
And keep let the trolls cry.
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:48:20pm |
If the US GDP shows a drop in production for the 2nd quarter, I'm blaming LGF's Spy.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:48:27pm |
Only 8 days to the shortest day, then its all down hill to summer
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:49:05pm |
re: #8 A Kiwi Infidel
Only 8 days to the shortest day, then its all down hill to summer
I was SO puzzled until I read your nic!
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:50:12pm |
re: #9 goddessoftheclassroom
I was SO puzzled until I read your nic!
And you're a teacher, I am so pleased you worked that out
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didache Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:50:16pm |
Thank God, an open thread. Now can someone help me with a technical problem that is bugging me:
You know the current Hitler (Downfall) meme on YouTube where people subtitle a scene from the film Downfall with whatever topic amuses them (Hillary dressing down her campaign managers, themes about soccer or ice hockey etc) well my problem is I'm technically illiterate so how do you do that? How do you get that clip from Downfall and put your own subtitles on it? I want to do it as a practical joke on a workmate. I have a mac with iMovie and iDVD. What do I do next? Please help.
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Roentgen Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:50:16pm |
re: #8 A Kiwi Infidel
Only 8 days to the shortest day, then its all down hill to summer
I think this'll be a lovely summer.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:50:26pm |
re: #8 A Kiwi Infidel
Only 8 days to the shortest day, then its all down hill to summer
Six months plus that for the shortest day here. While you are in darkness, we'll be basking in the glow of longer days. (And vice versa later on, but that's later on.)
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:50:33pm |
re: #8 A Kiwi Infidel
From where I work, it's the longest day: the sun won't even set if I get sent to the wrong place (high arctic).
You Kiwis are always getting things turned around.
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Shug Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:50:57pm |
Just saw Malkin on Fox News refer to Michelle Obama as Barack's Bitter Half
heh
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:51:04pm |
re: #8 A Kiwi Infidel
Only 8 days to the shortest day, then its all down hill to summer
That was a WHA--- moment. I forgot you're "down under".
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Shug Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:51:33pm |
re: #5 Honorary Yooper
Wean oneself from LGF Spy?
Wean one's addiction why?
You should use it with an eye
And keep let the trolls cry.
I saw that before you even hit enter
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:52:37pm |
Man, those communists are smart:
HAVANA - The egalitarian wage system Fidel Castro spent decades building in Cuba is no longer viable, plagued by low pay, corruption and waste that can be eased by paying workers more for better work, a top labor official said in an interview published Wednesday.
Paying people more... if they produce better work... wow, the mind boggles!
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The Other Les Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:53:37pm |
re: #19 Occasional Reader
Man, those communists are smart:
Paying people more... if they produce better work... wow, the mind boggles!
That's so ... capitalistic...
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:54:08pm |
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:54:37pm |
re: #20 The Other Les
How will Hugo handle this disappointment and change in Cuban policy?
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:54:52pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
Frank who?
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:54:52pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
Can you spell putz?
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:54:58pm |
Anybody find the Obamas as creepy as I do? Never mind rhetorical question.
Barry talks about healing the Planet & Michelle talks about healing our souls.
IT seems like a New Age brew of goblygook, mixed with Marxism,
racial anomosity, and anti Americanism.
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:55:24pm |
re: #19 Occasional Reader
Man, those communists are smart:
Paying people more... if they produce better work... wow, the mind boggles!
....but if you pay them more, won't they accumulate capital?.....That sounds awful!
/
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:55:37pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
Is this the test you were talking about?
No. Next question, Charles.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:55:42pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
Since I have no idea who that is, I definitely am not one of those people, if they exist.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:56:09pm |
re: #16 infidelia
That was a WHA--- moment. I forgot you're "down under".
Nup, its you who are "up-over"
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UFO TOFU Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:56:14pm |
Anyone have any idea what's wrong with my computer? When I hit "new comments" it refreshes to the top of the page. "Reply", "quote" or up-ding take me the home page. The format and "preview" buttons are inoperative. It's probably my machine and not LGF, but it becomes tedious to keep up with comments.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:56:22pm |
Well since this is an open thread. A place I volunteered on in a galaxy long ago . Ah youth, it's wasted on the young.
[Link: www.panoramio.com...]
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:56:24pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:56:51pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
My first though was "navel gazers"..........
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Shug Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:57:01pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
is there an echo in my living room?
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VegasRick Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:57:11pm |
re: #28 Occasional Reader
Since I have no idea who that is, I definitely am not one of those people, if they exist.
That is not the Frank Luntz that obambi knew.
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:57:16pm |
re: #30 UFO TOFU
Anyone have any idea what's wrong with my computer? When I hit "new comments" it refreshes to the top of the page. "Reply", "quote" or up-ding take me the home page. The format and "preview" buttons are inoperative. It's probably my machine and not LGF, but it becomes tedious to keep up with comments.
That will happen if you have Javascript turned off. Check your browser settings...
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:57:49pm |
re: #29 A Kiwi Infidel
re: #16 infidelia
That was a WHA--- moment. I forgot you're "down under".
Nup, its you who are "up-over"
Of course, neither of us is necessarily either, since there's no real "up" for the Earth.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:57:58pm |
re: #25 opnion
Anybody find the Obamas as creepy as I do? Never mind rhetorical question.
Barry talks about healing the Planet & Michelle talks about healing our souls.
IT seems like a New Age brew of goblygook, mixed with Marxism,
racial anomosity, and anti Americanism.
Obama's comment re his ability to heal the oceans is the single spookiest thing I have heard from anyone in my lifetime. Not to mention the most blasphemous.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:58:15pm |
re: #14 CanadianBacon
From where I work, it's the longest day: the sun won't even set if I get sent to the wrong place (high arctic).
You Kiwis are always getting things turned around.
We are not quite that close to the Antarctic, but it must must be fascinating to see that, the sun that never sets. BTW how are those endangered polar bears?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:58:18pm |
USAfrica online has an interesting picture on it.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:58:40pm |
I got kicked off LGF about 5 minutes ago. I thought maybe I had gone back in time to my early AOL days.
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:58:46pm |
re: #37 Occasional Reader
unless you're in an airplane....
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:58:56pm |
re: #25 opnion
Anybody find the Obamas as creepy as I do? Never mind rhetorical question.
Barry talks about healing the Planet & Michelle talks about healing our souls.
IT seems like a New Age brew of goblygook, mixed with Marxism,
racial anomosity, and anti Americanism.
If you saw all the gonzo New Age books these people buy all day long at the bookstore where I work it would make it easier to see how they got on some people's wavelengths.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:58:56pm |
re: #37 Occasional Reader
Ah ha, tell that to the Mullah who thinks the world is flat
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Shug Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:59:08pm |
When I watch a Frank Luntz group, especially of "undecided voters" I am reminded that statistically, half of Americans are below average.
And I prefer the term uninformed voter to undecided voter
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varmint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:59:18pm |
re: #11 didache
i'd know how to do it in after effect. but there's got to be a simpler way.
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:59:24pm |
re: #37 Occasional Reader
Of course, neither of us is necessarily either, since there's no real "up" for the Earth.
True enuf!
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:59:46pm |
re: #40 NJDhockeyfan
USAfrica online has an interesting picture on it.
That implies a constitutional problem I thinith?
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 2:59:47pm |
re: #36 Charles
That will happen if you have Javascript turned off. Check your browser settings...
I have also seen this lately with Firefox. Which for some reason periodically also will not allow me to type an apostrophe. Rebooting the program seems to fix it.
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:00:12pm |
What I really think is amazing is we have people from all over the world who found this home away from home, and on the majority of things, we have no problem finding common ground.
I haven't said it for awhile: THANKS CHARLES!
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:00:52pm |
re: #38 galloping granny
Obama's comment re his ability to heal the oceans is the single spookiest thing I have heard from anyone in my lifetime. Not to mention the most blasphemous.
I have to agree with that. A Columnist writing today in the San Francisco Chronicle opined that Obama is a 'Light Worker"
He is a spirtual being that is not really one of us & will teach the world a new way of life!
What is going on?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:01:03pm |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
That implies a constitutional problem I thinith?
I thinith you are correct.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:01:11pm |
re: #39 A Kiwi Infidel
Doing great - I work with the conservation officers that do the counts: they say the populations in most areas of the Hudson's Bay area are growing and healthy. Good news doesn't travel so fast or so far.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:01:21pm |
re: #51 SusanL
What I really think is amazing is we have people from all over the world who found this home away from home, and on the majority of things, we have no problem finding common ground.
I haven't said it for awhile: THANKS CHARLES!
More than that, we become friends sincerely interested in each other's lives.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:01:30pm |
re: #38 galloping granny
Obama's comment re his ability to heal the oceans is the single spookiest thing I have heard from anyone in my lifetime. Not to mention the most blasphemous.
Imagine McCain saying something like that? They media would still be ranting on about it.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:01:41pm |
re: #8 A Kiwi Infidel
Only 8 days to the shortest day, then its all down hill to summer
Or in our case, eight days until the longest day, then it's all down hill to winter.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:01:51pm |
re: #40 NJDhockeyfan
USAfrica online has an interesting picture on it.
Oh man. Could that be accurate?
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:02:03pm |
re: #52 opnion
I have to agree with that. A Columnist writing today in the San Francisco Chronicle opined that Obama is a 'Light Worker"
He is a spirtual being that is not really one of us & will teach the world a new way of life!
What is going on?
That sounds like scientology stuff, or, just too much of the wacky backy
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:02:17pm |
re: #54 CanadianBacon
I think the issue is less the news traveling and more the willingness to accept it.
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coquimbojoe Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:02:26pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
Frank Luntz is dreamy....
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Roentgen Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:02:31pm |
Taking advantage of an open thread:
Hey Charles:
We just caught Dream Theater on one of their recent tour dates. John Petrucci was playing a flame-thrower, just killing us, but he made it look so easy--a sign of greatness. The boss got us front row VIP tickets, so we got to meet all the guys back stage after the concert.
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satan sidekick Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:02:41pm |
re: #52 opnion
That's even creeprier than Obama causing the oceans to stop rising. Spiritual? You mean like Wright and the Pflegler (sp.) guy? That's really spiritual.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:02:43pm |
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coquimbojoe Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:03:15pm |
re: #40 NJDhockeyfan
USAfrica online has an interesting picture on it.
What do they know that we don't yet know?
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:03:24pm |
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varmint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:03:28pm |
am listening to the news. kucinich's bill got shot down. they would save a lot of time if they'd just keep the articles of impeachment on the top shelf where he couldn't reach.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:03:58pm |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
That implies a constitutional problem I thinith?
Nah
Hussein Obama does not have to play by the rules made by Wh!te Slave Owners
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:04:17pm |
re: #52 opnion
I have to agree with that. A Columnist writing today in the San Francisco Chronicle opined that Obama is a 'Light Worker"
He is a spirtual being that is not really one of us & will teach the world a new way of life!
What is going on?
Consider the source.
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Just Above Average Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:04:24pm |
FOX's Brit Hume leading the the Jimbo Johnson story. Is it just me or is Brit Hume really Eyore?
Eyore used the phrase, "Throwing him under the bus"
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:04:34pm |
re: #44 A Kiwi Infidel
Ah ha, tell that to the Mullah who thinks the world is flat
Thats why the will be able to push all of the Infidels off of the planet.
Calling the 12th Imam
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:05:25pm |
re: #54 CanadianBacon
Yes, I had heard. And as you say, some people would prefer to distort completely ignore the twoof to further their own ends.
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:05:26pm |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
That implies a constitutional problem I thinith?
My ex-husband was in the Air Force and my daughter was born in West Germany at Hahn AFB. Her birth certificate states that she is "an American Citizen born abroad".
If she were so inclined, I beleive she would qualify to run as POTUS, right?
I think that someone in power (hello Mr. McCain) needs to insist that Obambi produce proof that he is eligible to be president.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:05:49pm |
re: #60 A Kiwi Infidel
That sounds like scientology stuff, or, just too much of the wacky backy
The really bizzare part is that it was not a letter to the editr , but a regular columnist.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:05:50pm |
re: #71 Just Above Average
FOX's Brit Hume leading the the Jimbo Johnson story. Is it just me or is Brit Hume really Eyore?
Eyore used the phrase, "Throwing him under the bus"
I bow down before Mr. Hume. All Praise due Brit!
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offendi Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:05:57pm |
I was stuck in traffic today so I ended up listening to the Loofah Man's radio show. On it he warned fellow talking heads and republicans not to make Michelle Obama an issue in the election, claiming it would turn off independents.
This perplexes me, insofar as she would be First Lady she would be representing this country. Her opinions and views don't matter?
As for Loofah Man's position I recall he has been trying endlessly to get Obama on his program " for the folks". Guess that explains that.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:08pm |
re: #52 opnion
I have to agree with that. A Columnist writing today in the San Francisco Chronicle opined that Obama is a 'Light Worker"
He is a spirtual being that is not really one of us & will teach the world a new way of life!
What is going on?
That Lightworker bit is a few days old - might be the Chronicle is just now republishing that opinion piece from a few days back.
I'm not positive re what is going on, but I am positive about this: Barack Hussein Obama has never in his entire life done, said or written the first thing that makes him in any way the moral or intellectual superior of anyone, puts him in any position to teach anyone or, most importantly, qualifies him in any way at all to be the President of the United States of America. That he would even think that he is so qualified is pure hubris. And maybe a good old fashioned case of schizophrenia.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:09pm |
re: #75 Charles
Just a li'l test...
Duh Duh Duh ... Duuuummmmmmmmm.
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:10pm |
re: #74 SusanL
My ex-husband was in the Air Force and my daughter was born in West Germany at Hahn AFB. Her birth certificate states that she is "an American Citizen born abroad".
If she were so inclined, I beleive she would qualify to run as POTUS, right?
I think that someone in power (hello Mr. McCain) needs to insist that Obambi produce proof that he is eligible to be president.
Yes.
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:23pm |
re: #76 opnion
The really bizzare part is that it was not a letter to the editr , but a regular columnist.
It's not bizarre if in San Francisco.....
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:23pm |
re: #75 Charles
Just a li'l test...
Damn
I didn't study
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:25pm |
re: #61 Athos
I think the issue is less the news traveling and more the willingness to accept it.
'struth.
I work with the locals on the Arctic shores and they say their parents tell stories of previous warm/cold cycles, of times when the bears were like rabbits (big, man-eating rabbits, but you get the picture) and of times when they were scarce. Hell, the old-school Inuk hunted the same animals as the bears and needed the ice to access the seals too - they were pretty good observers of "climate change" and long before it became fashionable.
But what do they know - hell, they even wear FUR.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:31pm |
re: #72 opnion
Thats why the will be able to push all of the Infidels off of the planet.
Calling the 12th Imam
So, we have the biggest bus of all. The planet.......
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:35pm |
re: #75 Charles
Just a li'l test...
We're sick of your little "testies"!
Wait, that came out all wrong.
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stevieray Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:56pm |
re: #40 NJDhockeyfan
USAfrica online has an interesting picture on it.
Somebody found that birth certificate.
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satan sidekick Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:56pm |
re: #74 SusanL
I was told by some loons today that he doesn;t need to prove where he was born. Not important.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:06:59pm |
dude, I seriously Love Brit Hume. Only real newsman out there right now.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:00pm |
re: #74 SusanL
My ex-husband was in the Air Force and my daughter was born in West Germany at Hahn AFB. Her birth certificate states that she is "an American Citizen born abroad".
If she were so inclined, I beleive she would qualify to run as POTUS, right?
I think that someone in power (hello Mr. McCain) needs to insist that Obambi produce proof that he is eligible to be president.
Yes because she was born to American citizens in the Military serving abroad. When is she filing?
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:02pm |
re: #76 opnion
The really bizzare part is that it was not a letter to the editr , but a regular
columnist.fruitloop
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:12pm |
re: #75 Charles
Just a li'l test...
Is a #3 pencil okay?
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paint-right Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:18pm |
Sorry to be so behind the times but what happened to the"report" option?
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:18pm |
re: #83 LeftJustAintRight
Damn
I didn't study
That's why you need to review every day!
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:30pm |
re: #56 unrealizedviewpoint
Imagine McCain saying something like that? They media would still be ranting on about it.
Rant? They would insure that the guys in white coats came and hauled him away!
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:39pm |
re: #67 infidelia
Whoa... "Kenyan born?"!
They will walk that back, but it does make you wonder.
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:07:55pm |
re: #76 opnion
The really bizzare part is that it was not a letter to the editr , but a regular columnist.
That's pretty much New Ager boilerplate kind of stuff. Next someone will claim he was an Indigo Child.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:08:24pm |
A group of Americans, retired teachers, recently went to France on
a tour.
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by
plane.. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his
passport in his carry on.
'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs officer
asked sarcastically.
Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.
'Then you should know enough to have your passport ready.'
The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to show
it.'
'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on
arrival in France!'
The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he
quietly explained. 'Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on
D-D ay in '44 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find any
Frenchmen
to show it to.'
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:08:43pm |
re: #74 SusanL
My ex-husband was in the Air Force and my daughter was born in West Germany at Hahn AFB. Her birth certificate states that she is "an American Citizen born abroad".
If she were so inclined, I beleive she would qualify to run as POTUS, right?
I think that someone in power (hello Mr. McCain) needs to insist that Obambi produce proof that he is eligible to be president.
I think it would be fun just because i might be so irritating to BHO. Anything to piss him off. Might even be good for his kids to know where daddy really came from
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:08:48pm |
re: #95 paint-right
Sorry to be so behind the times but what happened to the"report" option?
The exclamation point is it now
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:08:50pm |
Man goes for a ride on an airplane to take pictures, jumps from plane without a parachute while taking pictures of himself.
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KingKenrod Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:08:54pm |
From the media bias file, the Senate Republican's attempt to open the outer shelf to oil exploration was shot down today by Democrats in committee. Neither CNN nor MSNBC bothered to report this on either their web home pages or business pages (FOX did).
But MSNBC did have this pearl of unbiased "journalism" via the AP:
WASHINGTON - Saved by Senate Republicans, big oil companies dodged an attempt Tuesday to slap them with a windfall profits tax and take away billions of dollars in tax breaks in response to the record gasoline prices that have the nation fuming.
GOP senators shoved aside the Democratic proposal, arguing that punishing Big Oil won’t do a thing to lower the $4-a-gallon-price of gasoline that is sending economic waves across the country. High prices at the pump are threatening everything from summer vacations to Meals on Wheels deliveries to the elderly.
The Democratic energy package would have imposed a 25 percent tax on any “unreasonable” profits of the five largest U.S. oil companies, which together made $36 billion during the first three months of the year. It also would have given the government more power to address oil market speculation, opened the way for antitrust actions against countries belonging to the OPEC oil cartel, and made energy price gouging a federal crime.
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:09:01pm |
re: #95 paint-right
Sorry to be so behind the times but what happened to the"report" option?
it's now the exclamation point icon.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:09:06pm |
re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Duh Duh Duh ... Duuuummmmmmmmm.
Yeah, I got a sinister vibe from that too... planning some dexterous tricks, Charles?
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:09:30pm |
re: #78 offendi
I was stuck in traffic today so I ended up listening to the Loofah Man's radio show. On it he warned fellow talking heads and republicans not to make Michelle Obama an issue in the election, claiming it would turn off independents.
This perplexes me, insofar as she would be First Lady she would be representing this country. Her opinions and views don't matter?
As for Loofah Man's position I recall he has been trying endlessly to get Obama on his program " for the folks". Guess that explains that.
The Obama campaign had been pushing this for some while now. More recently they have given Michelle O her very own campaign staff just like hubby's. I suspect to try to keep her mouth shut. First Lady material the gal is not.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:03pm |
re: #78 offendi
I like O'Reilly. Think he's pretty straight. Know that's not popular here, but it's the truth.
I agreen with him on this issue. Leave Mrs. O and Mrs. M out of it. Let the two slug it out without racist crap to muddy the picture any more than it is muddled.
She'll say a few more stupid things. But, don't give the independents reasons to run away from McCain in search of higher ground.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:06pm |
re: #79 galloping granny
That Lightworker bit is a few days old - might be the Chronicle is just now republishing that opinion piece from a few days back.
I'm not positive re what is going on, but I am positive about this: Barack Hussein Obama has never in his entire life done, said or written the first thing that makes him in any way the moral or intellectual superior of anyone, puts him in any position to teach anyone or, most importantly, qualifies him in any way at all to be the President of the United States of America. That he would even think that he is so qualified is pure hubris. And maybe a good old fashioned case of schizophrenia.
Would a celestial being vist Earth & Hook up with Reverend Wright?
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:08pm |
re: #95 paint-right
Sorry to be so behind the times but what happened to the"report" option?
Gone. Nobody ever says anything in need of reporting anymore.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:14pm |
re: #95 paint-right
Sorry to be so behind the times but what happened to the"report" option?
That is the exclamation point next to the heart now.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:19pm |
re: #109 galloping granny
The Obama campaign had been pushing this for some while now. More recently they have given Michelle O her very own campaign staff just like hubby's. I suspect to try to keep her mouth shut. First Lady material the gal is not.
First, she has to be a lady...
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:32pm |
re: #52 opnion
I have to agree with that. A Columnist writing today in the San Francisco Chronicle opined that Obama is a 'Light Worker"
He is a spirtual being that is not really one of us & will teach the world a new way of life!
What is going on?
I'm an "SP" - a suppressive person. One who criticizes Scientology.
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:55pm |
re: #91 Nevergiveup
She isn't old enough, only 26. She would never pass muster with either side. Too independent, she thinks they are all crooks. But, she won't vote for Obama, she thinks he is crazy.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:10:59pm |
re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom
First, she has to be a lady...
Amen.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:11:10pm |
re: #104 NJDhockeyfan
Man goes for a ride on an airplane to take pictures, jumps from plane without a parachute while taking pictures of himself.
Shit, I hope he wasn't a registered Republican?
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:11:19pm |
re: #111 opnion
Would a celestial being vist Earth & Hook up with Reverend Wright?
Perhaps. But if a celestial being visited earth and hooked up with Wright, I would know for sure that it was the wrong kind of celestial being and one that I wanted nothing to do with.
"By their fruit you will know them."
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The Other Les Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:11:22pm |
re: #68 varmint
am listening to the news. kucinich's bill got shot down. they would save a lot of time if they'd just keep the articles of impeachment on the top shelf where he couldn't reach.
Someone would only get a ladder for him and show him how to use it.
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SeafoodGumbo Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:11:34pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
Less Frank Lutz, more Lionel Hutz.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:11:48pm |
re: #116 SusanL
She isn't old enough, only 26. She would never pass muster with either side. Too independent, she thinks they are all crooks. But, she won't vote for Obama, she thinks he is crazy.
As do all of my daughters - youngest is about the same age.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:01pm |
Man, you guys are a bunch of Chatty Cathies. Watching LGF Spy is like sitting in the Lounge.
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kansas Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:02pm |
Dems say NO to drilling for oil.
"We are kidding ourselves if we think we can drill our way out of these problems," House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, D-Wis., said during the bill mark-up session"
You are kidding yourself if you think I would vote for a Democrat. Can somebody tell what is wrong with these people?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:03pm |
A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included
Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French
Navies.
At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large
group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks
but a French admiral suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn
many languages, Americans learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why
is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather
Than speaking French?'
Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, 'Maybe it's
because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arrange d it so you
wouldn't have to speak German.'
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Shaky Louie Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:13pm |
Politicians deploy righteous indignation like college students use credit cards—to excess and with abandon...And that outrage came back to haunt Barack Obama Wednesday when Jim Johnson, the man running his vice presidential search team, stepped down...
Obama, Superstar?
What are you,
who do you think you are?
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infidelia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:26pm |
re: #111 opnion
Would a celestial being vist Earth & Hook up with Reverend Wright?
Depends on how weird the home planet is.
Ride is here, got to run!
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paint-right Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:29pm |
re: #103 LeftJustAintRight
Thank you!
I saw somehting at work this am and I thought it smacked of something that could be critized by "visitors" but i wasn't sure.
i may reread and report it yet.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:32pm |
re: #97 galloping granny
Rant? They would insure that the guys in white coats came and hauled him away!
It should be just so easy to beat this guy. Just repeat his words aloud again for all to hear. Make 'em listen this time.
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Quentin Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:34pm |
Obama's comment re his ability to heal the oceans is the single spookiest thing I have heard from anyone in my lifetime. Not to mention the most blasphemous.
Personally, I still like John Edwards's "We will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating diseases....When John Kerry is president, people like Chris Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:41pm |
re: #115 Ward Cleaver
so am i. Used to Campaign on the Internet against it, under a different name. I hate that $h*t
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tigerwoman Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:42pm |
I am so buying one of these!
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:12:58pm |
re: #109 galloping granny
The Obama campaign had been pushing this for some while now. More recently they have given Michelle O her very own campaign staff just like hubby's. I suspect to try to keep her mouth shut. First Lady material the gal is not.
They both have another thing in common. Neither likes to show up for work.
He avoids the Senate & she avoids her job at the University of Chicago Medical Center.
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The Other Les Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:13:14pm |
re: #130 Quentin
Get your snake oil here...
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paint-right Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:13:16pm |
re: #112 unrealizedviewpoint
Gone. Nobody ever says anything in need of reporting anymore.
LOL
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:13:22pm |
re: #52 opnion
I have to agree with that. A Columnist writing today in the San Francisco Chronicle opined that Obama is a 'Light Worker"
He is a spirtual being that is not really one of us & will teach the world a new way of life!
What is going on?
Perhaps they were referring to the community organizing gig and meant to spell it...
"Lite worker"
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Dalibama Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:13:34pm |
I heart Obama's blog. This one is a little different from what we have been reading there. I guess you could call it love speech.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/sepu yasepuya/gG5gx5
The messiah is here "now or never"The Messiah is here, it is time to awaken or never. Thank Thnak you Obama and the entire team. Be informed the thrilling hopes you are sending in peoples minds. At the blink of the world hope has arisen. the Messiah has come. it is up to the world to reject Him or accept Him.....
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:02pm |
re: #25 opnion
Anybody find the Obamas as creepy as I do? Never mind rhetorical question.
Barry talks about healing the Planet & Michelle talks about healing our souls.
IT seems like a New Age brew of goblygook, mixed with Marxism,
racial anomosity, and anti Americanism.
they are a tag team.
michelle sets it up as the existing world is broken, mean and nasty.
b.o. is the one to fix it all as the messiah.
it's the old we can bring you heaven on earth( hoax.)
and you're right it is creepy. especially from these typical leftist commies
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:15pm |
re: #104 NJDhockeyfan
Man goes for a ride on an airplane to take pictures, jumps from plane without a parachute while taking pictures of himself.
What do you think about while you're free falling 7000 feet?
Plenty of time to second guess your actions.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:22pm |
re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I like O'Reilly. Think he's pretty straight. Know that's not popular here, but it's the truth.
I agreen with him on this issue. Leave Mrs. O and Mrs. M out of it. Let the two slug it out without racist crap to muddy the picture any more than it is muddled.
She'll say a few more stupid things. But, don't give the independents reasons to run away from McCain in search of higher ground.
I don't think a comparison of the two wives are in order. I do think that when either of them opens her mouth, then whatever she says - good, bad, indifferent - is fair game. She is running for First Lady every bit as much as her husband is interviewing for the highest office in the land.
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:24pm |
re: #123 Noam Sayin'
Man, you guys are a bunch of Chatty Cathies. Watching LGF Spy is like sitting in the Lounge.
You are seriously dating yourself Noam!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:37pm |
re: #132 tigerwoman
I am so buying one of these!
I'll take 3 ,, and make a T-Shirt, lawn sign, and flag with it too
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:57pm |
If Hussein Obama is Kenyan born
Does that make him illegal ?
An illegal alien beat Hillary in the primary and still may be POTUS ?
Hahahahaha
Maybe that is the Karma I have hoped caught up with the Libs
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:14:59pm |
Ok kids, gotta run. Hey, hope I meet Wolfie tonight. Baseball game. (mr.s' gonna be there too, so no cracks)!
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:15:01pm |
re: #116 SusanL
She isn't old enough, only 26. She would never pass muster with either side. Too independent, she thinks they are all crooks. But, she won't vote for Obama, she thinks he is crazy.
My daughters are 21 and 18. Both are appalled that Obama is even being considered. They will both be voting for McCain. Makes me proud.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:15:12pm |
re: #119 galloping granny
Perhaps. But if a celestial being visited earth and hooked up with Wright, I would know for sure that it was the wrong kind of celestial being and one that I wanted nothing to do with.
"By their fruit you will know them."
Maybe he was just trying to mentor Wright & show him the error of his ways.
Kidding
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:15:47pm |
re: #30 UFO TOFU
Anyone have any idea what's wrong with my computer? When I hit "new comments" it refreshes to the top of the page. "Reply", "quote" or up-ding take me the home page. The format and "preview" buttons are inoperative. It's probably my machine and not LGF, but it becomes tedious to keep up with comments.
From my experience you are running Windows Mobile 5 and IE Mobile.
/That's what happens when I'm reading on my phone.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:16:27pm |
re: #130 Quentin
Obama's comment re his ability to heal the oceans is the single spookiest thing I have heard from anyone in my lifetime. Not to mention the most blasphemous.
Personally, I still like John Edwards's "We will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating diseases....When John Kerry is president, people like Chris Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."
These Democrats are indeed wonderous beings
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:16:31pm |
re: #139 jorline
What do you think about while you're free falling 7000 feet?
Plenty of time to second guess your actions.
It'd sound like this:
"Aaaahhhhhhhhh aaaaahhhhhh aaaaahhhhhh..."
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:16:48pm |
re: #130 Quentin
Obama's comment re his ability to heal the oceans is the single spookiest thing I have heard from anyone in my lifetime. Not to mention the most blasphemous.
Personally, I still like John Edwards's "We will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating diseases....When John Kerry is president, people like Chris Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."
Excellent 2nd post. Welcome!
Use the quote button next time, and pick up your shells.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:17:13pm |
re: #139 jorline
What do you think about while you're free falling 7000 feet?
Plenty of time to second guess your actions.
Something like...
"Hey. Did I leave the iron on?"
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tommygum Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:17:29pm |
re: #104 NJDhockeyfan
Man goes for a ride on an airplane to take pictures, jumps from plane without a parachute while taking pictures of himself.
And the winner of the Darwin Award is......
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:17:40pm |
re: #151 CanadianBacon
It'd sound like this:
"Aaaahhhhhhhhh aaaaahhhhhh aaaaahhhhhh..."
Or, for the relentless optimist: "So far, so good!".
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:17:58pm |
re: #142 SusanL
You are seriously dating yourself Noam!
No one else will.
Had to get that one in before Sage took it.
Seriously, though. My mom started collecting them when I was a kid. She fixed them up, got the eyes working and got them talking again. She even made outfits for them. She had a whole room full of dolls.
All of them, staring at ya...
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:18:01pm |
re: #137 Dalibama
I heart Obama's blog. This one is a little different from what we have been reading there. I guess you could call it love speech.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community /post/sepuyasepuya/gG5gx5
This is exactly the kind of blasphemous crap that I mean.
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nikis-knight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:18:29pm |
re: #112 unrealizedviewpoint
Gone. Nobody ever says anything in need of reporting anymore.
Because the lightworker has come.
Didn't you know? This is an Obama blog now...
/
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:18:31pm |
re: #154 tommygum
And the winner of the Darwin Award is......
He's not the winner yet, but he's way out front.
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coquimbojoe Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:18:36pm |
re: #88 stevieray
Somebody found that birth certificate.
Maybe the Kenyans have one......
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:18:37pm |
re: #139 jorline
What do you think about while you're free falling 7000 feet?
Plenty of time to second guess your actions.
things you are NOT thinking about
"I wonder if I locked my keys in my car"
"Did I leave the stove on"
"I'm sure glad I programmed the DVD recorder for tonights game"
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:19:08pm |
re: #160 coquimbojoe
Maybe the Kenyans have one......
I hope so
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offendi Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:19:25pm |
re: #109 galloping granny
The Obama campaign had been pushing this for some while now. More recently they have given Michelle O her very own campaign staff just like hubby's. I suspect to try to keep her mouth shut. First Lady material the gal is not.
People reference the 20 years Obama spent in Wright's pews hearing Wright's "ideas" and doubt they did not influence him or that he may have shared them. It seems to me that being married to a person is even more intimate and shows shared values in addition to the commitment. So I would think Michelle's comments and views are totally relevant to who Obama himself is. He does have a sparse public record so far.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:19:31pm |
re: #144 LeftJustAintRight
If Hussein Obama is Kenyan born
Does that make him illegal ?
An illegal alien beat Hillary in the primary and still may be POTUS ?
Hahahahaha
Maybe that is the Karma I have hoped caught up with the Libs
I had a buch of comments run through my (very tiny) mind when i saw this. Discarded all of them. Heh. I hate that guy. Hes smarmy. Seriously does remind me of the worst of the Scientology stuff
and scientology gets my back up. That stuff is Ridiculous. And kills people Ruins lives Impoverishes....
Wait are we talking about Clams or Dems?
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:19:34pm |
re: #155 Occasional Reader
Or, for the relentless optimist: "So far, so good!".
I'm an engineer: the pessimist says the glass is half empty, the optimist says half full, and the engineer says it's twice as big as it needs to be.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:19:35pm |
Should we start thinking about nominees for the Fiskie Award, or has BHO pretty much run away with it by now?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:03pm |
re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Beat ya!
sure ,, you only typed ONE ,, I made it a SERIES !
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:12pm |
re: #167 Noam Sayin'
Should we start thinking about nominees for the Fiskie Award, or has BHO pretty much run away with it by now?
The only landslide he's looking at.
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tommygum Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:21pm |
re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I like O'Reilly. Think he's pretty straight. Know that's not popular here, but it's the truth.
I agreen with him on this issue. Leave Mrs. O and Mrs. M out of it. Let the two slug it out without racist crap to muddy the picture any more than it is muddled.
She'll say a few more stupid things. But, don't give the independents reasons to run away from McCain in search of higher ground.
I wonder how many votes Theresa cost LT for life Kerry. We'll take all the help we can get.
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:36pm |
re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Something like...
"Hey. Did I leave the iron on?"
The report said he rode a bicycle to the airport...to bad it wasn't Barry's with the flat rear tire, maybe he would have missed the flight.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:20:38pm |
re: #154 tommygum
And the winner of the Darwin Award is......
Make ya feel pretty good about yourself. You know, SMART
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right_on_target Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:06pm |
Here's a good one...
Steve Kelley draws the only sane part of our local paper.
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:08pm |
re: #156 Noam Sayin'
No one else will.
Had to get that one in before Sage took it.
Seriously, though. My mom started collecting them when I was a kid. She fixed them up, got the eyes working and got them talking again. She even made outfits for them. She had a whole room full of dolls.
All of them, staring at ya...
The predecessors to "Chucky" perhaps?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:08pm |
re: #170 tommygum
I wonder how many votes Theresa cost LT for life Kerry. We'll take all the help we can get.
The point is, that'll happen without all the good guys jumping on.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:19pm |
re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The only landslide he's looking at.
That's what I'm thinking. Who could possibly be a bigger Idiotarian?
Maybe Kucinich.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:20pm |
re: #165 Karagush
I had a buch of comments run through my (very tiny) mind when i saw this. Discarded all of them. Heh. I hate that guy. Hes smarmy. Seriously does remind me of the worst of the Scientology stuff
and scientology gets my back up. That stuff is Ridiculous. And kills people Ruins lives Impoverishes....
Wait are we talking about Clams or Dems?
Damn Dems
LOL
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:29pm |
re: #173 Charles
I'm a testin' fool...
and a dancin' machine !
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:32pm |
Koskid?
Question #1 - Citizenship
By Mark from Ames, IA - Aug 24th, 2007 at 4:11 pm EDT
Why should anybody have a moral right to citizenship in any country? I was born here, but why does that give me more of a right to citizenship than somebody born elsewhere? Why should I have a right to citizenship because I was born here, but (as some suggest) people born here to non-citizens should have no such right? Why should some freeloader who has never done a lick of constructive work here, but was born here, have more of a right to citizenship than somebody who came here illegally but has worked his tail off for 10 years and been a contributing member of society? Shouldn't citizenship be earned by everyone?
Huh?
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:21:54pm |
re: #161 sattv4u2
things you are NOT thinking about
"I wonder if I locked my keys in my car"
"Did I leave the stove on"
"I'm sure glad I programmed the DVD recorder for tonights game"
You probably want a redo with a chute
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:22:15pm |
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DesertSage Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:22:35pm |
Wow, Charles has been deleted twice so far on this thread.
The monitors must be drunk with power.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:22:42pm |
Who keeps reporting Charles to Stinky?
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:23:27pm |
re: #186 unrealizedviewpoint
Who keeps reporting Charles to Stinky?
Who monitors the monitors?
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:23:39pm |
re: #175 SusanL
The predecessors to "Chucky" perhaps?
Come to think of it. One of them did turn out a little wicked.
That's when we got her started on quilting.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:23:54pm |
Hussein Obama's birth certificate is the October Surprise
LOL
Hahahahaha
That is why Hillary is keeping her delegates
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:23:54pm |
Later folks, I have to get back to work. Everyone play nice and be safe!
Susan
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:24:00pm |
re: #185 DesertSage
Wow, Charles has been deleted twice so far on this thread.
The monitors must be drunk with power.
Next they go to ply their skills at the Kos, Huffpo, and BO sites.
Redact that.
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:24:12pm |
re: #187 goddessoftheclassroom
Same guy who vets the vetters.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:24:55pm |
re: #193 Charles
I'm out of control!
As long as you're having fun. And not on your bike.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:24:55pm |
re: #164 offendi
People reference the 20 years Obama spent in Wright's pews hearing Wright's "ideas" and doubt they did not influence him or that he may have shared them. It seems to me that being married to a person is even more intimate and shows shared values in addition to the commitment. So I would think Michelle's comments and views are totally relevant to who Obama himself is. He does have a sparse public record so far.
The thing that bothers me the very most about his public record is not the length of it, but the fact that if you go and look at his voting record there are entire categories of issues - abortion and health care are two of them - where he has never in the entire time that he has been in the Senate cast either a yea or a nay, voting "present" or not voting at all every single time. That reads to me like a deliberate and willful effort to hide and obfuscate what he believes on issues that much of the voting public considers among the most important facing our nation.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:24:57pm |
re: #192 rightwinger3
Same guy who vets the vetters.
Nice!
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yesandno Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:03pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
What I don't understand is why anyone pays attention to Zogby anymore. They are often off quite a bit...caused by bias questions to my way of thinking.
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:09pm |
re: #193 Charles
I'm out of control!
There are those on the left who are certain that is true.
Keep after them Charles.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:26pm |
re: #189 LeftJustAintRight
Hussein Obama's birth certificate is the October Surprise
LOL
Hahahahaha
That is why Hillary is keeping her delegates
If it is true she couild have a surrogate spring it just before Denver & throw open the convention. Who would win? Let me think
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:27pm |
re: #185 DesertSage
Wow, Charles has been deleted twice so far on this thread.
The monitors must be drunk with power.
That is the new Obama Web Master showing Charles who is boss
The hacked LGF and are taking over
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:28pm |
re: #193 Charles
I'm out of control!
Everybody get someplace safe. Apparently Charles has been into the hard liquor.
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:30pm |
re: #184 sattv4u2
hmmm,, Charles deleted hisself !
We don't notice such things.....
/
He said he was testing something.
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:25:52pm |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
That implies a constitutional problem I thinith?
And that's why if he had any brain he wouldn't be fighting against the release of his birth certificate.
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:02pm |
At the pace that Obama is going with throwing so many under the bus.....doesn't it bother anyone on the left that sooner or later he will toss them under the bus as well?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:18pm |
re: #189 LeftJustAintRight
Hussein Obama's birth certificate is the October Surprise
LOL
Hahahahaha
That is why Hillary is keeping her delegates
Gawww Dayum AmeriKKKa!
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:41pm |
re: #203 jcm
We don't notice such things.....
/
He said he was testing something.
An auto delete function. Post a comment with flagged word or phrase and bang deleted before it's even seen.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:48pm |
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:26:51pm |
re: #181 NJDhockeyfan
Koskid?
Question #1 - Citizenship
By Mark from Ames, IA - Aug 24th, 2007 at 4:11 pm EDTHuh?
That reads exactly like many of the excuses put forth in past decades to keep women & blacks from voting.
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:04pm |
re: #193 Charles
I'm out of control!
It's OK Charles...stop beating yourself up...you're amongst friends who care about you.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:41pm |
re: #206 NJDhockeyfan
Gawww Dayum AmeriKKKa!
Obams chickensss, comin home to roost!
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Mardukhai Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:48pm |
re: #193 Charles
I'm out of control!
I wish I could be out of control -- I'm married!
Is the Spy on the regular menu, yet?
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SusanL Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:27:58pm |
re: #206 NJDhockeyfan
Maybe that is what Clinton is counting on for Denver. Quietly show them he is ineligible and walk away with the nomination? She's sneaky enough.
OK, for real, back to work.
Susan
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:00pm |
re: #201 LeftJustAintRight
That is the new Obama Web Master showing Charles who is boss
The hacked LGF and are taking over
LMAO
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Clemente Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:15pm |
Careful, Charles!
Please don't get yourself banned.
We'd miss ya 'round here...
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:16pm |
Charles ... I got a screenshot of #173! ... hahaha!
(Uh oh, why is this enormous lizard claw coming out of my computer? ARRRGH!)
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:26pm |
re: #211 opnion
Obams chickensss, comin home to roost!
After they been riding dirty under the bus
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:36pm |
re: #177 Noam Sayin'
That's what I'm thinking. Who could possibly be a bigger Idiotarian?
Maybe Kucinich.
I respect Kucinich. At least he believes his rhetoric unlike most dem politicos who are in it for them, freak the masses.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:28:55pm |
Ok what bothers me about Obama is the naked LIES he tells. That and the ridiculous spin, and the unbelievable promises he makes, the way he says one thing one day and another the next. And how the people who follow him are so gullible as to eat it up. I really sit there shaking my head in disbelif and wonder.
Its like the whole Xenu thing. COME ON if the same person went to a movie nd saw this they would complain the plot was crap. BUT NOOOOO they pay thousands of dollars to hear that crap then expect everyone else to take it seriously, and when we dont get hostile and call us names... Un Freaking Believable.
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nikis-knight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:11pm |
re: #185 DesertSage
Wow, Charles has been deleted twice so far on this thread.
The monitors must be drunk with power.
Really? I wonder if he's putting in a self-delete feature.
I forsee a test thread with a whole lot of nothin'.
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nikis-knight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:29:50pm |
re: #195 CanadianBacon
As long as you're having fun. And not on your bike.
Don't quote Charles, he might have to delete you too!
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:05pm |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
That implies a constitutional problem I thinith?
Um, yes that would be a very large problem for Obama.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:22pm |
re: #221 nikis-knight
Don't quote Charles, he might have to delete you too!
* FILE NOT FOUND *
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:45pm |
re: #207 jcm
An auto delete function. Post a comment with flagged word or phrase and bang deleted before it's even seen.
re: #220 nikis-knight
Really? I wonder if he's putting in a self-delete feature.
I forsee a test thread with a whole lot of nothin'.
GMTA!
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jemima Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:54pm |
If it doesn't matter where Barry was born, then Arnold can run for Prez next time. Yea!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:30:56pm |
re: #223 CanadianBacon
* FILE NOT FOUND *
* LIZARD NOT FOUND *
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right_on_target Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:01pm |
I wonder if Charles is deleting from his Cell Phone? THAT would be handy!
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:05pm |
re: #220 nikis-knight
Really? I wonder if he's putting in a self-
deletebanned feature.
I forsee a test thread with a whole lot of nothin'.
Faster death than a 7000 ft free fall.
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RTLM Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:21pm |
Real unicorn found in Italy
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
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DesertSage Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:38pm |
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:31:52pm |
re: #219 Karagush
Ok what bothers me about Obama is the naked LIES he tells. That and the ridiculous spin, and the unbelievable promises he makes, the way he says one thing one day and another the next. And how the people who follow him are so gullible as to eat it up. I really sit there shaking my head in disbelif and wonder.
Its like the whole Xenu thing. COME ON if the same person went to a movie nd saw this they would complain the plot was crap. BUT NOOOOO they pay thousands of dollars to hear that crap then expect everyone else to take it seriously, and when we dont get hostile and call us names... Un Freaking Believable.
The Twilight Zone
Obama is already acting like he is POTUS
He sent a memo to the Sec Def and expects an answer
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:32:00pm |
re: #226 pre-Boomer Marine brat
* LIZARD NOT FOUND *
ROOM UNDER THE BUS NOT FOUND,,, GETTA NEW BUS
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:32:11pm |
re: #225 jemima
If it doesn't matter where Barry was born, then Arnold can run for Prez next time. Yea!
bite your tongue
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:32:13pm |
re: #229 RTLM
Real unicorn found in Italy
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Another Obama miracle! Free unicorns for everyone!
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:32:23pm |
re: #227 right_on_target
I wonder if Charles is deleting from his Cell Phone? THAT would be handy!
He doesn't have a cell phone. At least he says he doesn't.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:32:52pm |
re: #219 Karagush
Ok what bothers me about Obama is the naked LIES he tells. That and the ridiculous spin, and the unbelievable promises he makes, the way he says one thing one day and another the next. And how the people who follow him are so gullible as to eat it up. I really sit there shaking my head in disbelif and wonder.
Its like the whole Xenu thing. COME ON if the same person went to a movie nd saw this they would complain the plot was crap. BUT NOOOOO they pay thousands of dollars to hear that crap then expect everyone else to take it seriously, and when we dont get hostile and call us names... Un Freaking Believable.
One thing you cannot help but notice about Obama and his lies is that he is used to lying, so much that he almost believes that whatever he says today is "truth." He'll deny he said something different yesterday even as the tape of him saying it is being played back to him. Chronic liars are dangerous.
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nikis-knight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:06pm |
re: #224 jcm
Actually, not. I meant a way for lizards to delete their own comments, volitionally. (probably excluding comments already replyed to) Different use of the word auto, though, would describe them both.
P.S. What does GMTA mean?
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:08pm |
re: #236 Nevergiveup
That may change soon after July 11........
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yesandno Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:34pm |
re: #225 jemima
If it doesn't matter where Barry was born, then Arnold can run for Prez next time. Yea!
Whatever might happen to Obama, he still was born to an American mother. Arnold will never be a natural born citizen. And seeing how he is jumping on everything liberal these days, I am just as happy he cannot run.
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yochanan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:37pm |
re: #21 Charles
Are there really people out there who care about Frank Luntz and his focus groups?
well it is a good time to go get a beer
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:33:41pm |
re: #238 nikis-knight
Actually, not. I meant a way for lizards to delete their own comments, volitionally. (probably excluding comments already replyed to) Different use of the word auto, though, would describe them both.
P.S. What does GMTA mean?
Great Minds Think Alike.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:34:23pm |
re: #232 LeftJustAintRight
you $h*t me not?
Please say you are pulling my leg... THis guy is way weriod.
And really have you noticed how Dems and Clams are kinda similar? If i was braver i would go further in exploring the subject, but that was my intemperate youth...
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:34:25pm |
re: #232 LeftJustAintRight
The Twilight Zone
Obama is already acting like he is POTUS
He sent a memo to the Sec Def and expects an answer
And he is already conducting business with foreign governments - which is, after all, against the law.
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:34:46pm |
re: #227 right_on_target
I wonder if Charles is deleting from his Cell Phone? THAT would be handy!
New I-Phone feature?
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paint-right Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:34:53pm |
re: #242 paint-right
c'hai le corne !
/my bad
famous italian insult to men
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Abu Boo Boo Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:34:55pm |
If you can't tolerate another post about Ben Stein's Expelled, skip this post.
I'm reading a fascinating book called The Immortalists and quite unexpectedly came across something relevant to the the controversial movie.
Nobel prize in medicine winner Alexis Carrel and aviator Charles Lindbergh teamed up to develop a sort of artificial heart. They believed that through science they could lengthen human life and eventually achieve immortality.
Both were attracted to eugenics as the application of evolution. Lindbergh was enthralled by the industrial and scientific achievements of Germany.
When Germany attacked France, Carrel (a Frenchman) had a change of heart. Lindbergh became a leader of the "America First" movement.
After the war, Lindbergh saw first hand evidence of the Nazi's use of slave labor in their V2 rocket program.
Several years later, he repented for what he had done. In the book he wrote, he said that when men worship science it leads to evil. The Nazis believed they were simply obeying nature's laws. (In fact, this was an idea that Carrel championed earlier.)
The Immortalists by David M. Friedman was published last year.
Obviously, there is much more to the story. It wasn't until the death camps were discovered that eugenics was finally discredited.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:09pm |
re: #225 jemima
If it doesn't matter where Barry was born, then Arnold can run for Prez next time. Yea!
What in the world lead you to believe that the rules are applied evenly between Dems & Rep?
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soccerdad Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:13pm |
Some German paper has made a HUGE BHO gaffe --
But since they are all lefties in Germany, they are completely given a pass. I only found the link by following another Drudge link about 'Bush's Regret'
For those who don't speak German, superimposed over a picture of the White House, it says: "Uncle Barack's Cabin".
Imagine the outrage if some conservative paper had doen that.
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nikis-knight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:17pm |
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Kenneth Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:35:26pm |
re: #232 LeftJustAintRight
The Twilight Zone
Obama is already acting like he is POTUS
He sent a memo to the Sec Def and expects an answer
Further evidence of Obama's Narcissistic Personality Disorder...
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Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:03pm |
re: #232 LeftJustAintRight
He sent a memo to the Sec Def and expects an answer
Sort of like when Jimmy Carter was outraged that President Bush was "breaking my [Jimmy's] promises to the Palestinians". Uh, Jimmy... you're not the President any more... remember?
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:08pm |
re: #249 Abu Boo Boo
I'm amazed that you're still trying to defend that ridiculous viewpoint.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:11pm |
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:19pm |
re: #238 nikis-knight
Actually, not. I meant a way for lizards to delete their own comments, volitionally. (probably excluding comments already replyed to) Different use of the word auto, though, would describe them both.
P.S. What does GMTA mean?
Great Minds Think Alike.
I don't like a delete button for us to deleted our own. Some of the best stuff comes from goofs, typos and other "mistakes." We can't have lizards deleting they're own unintentional gems can we?
;-P
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:29pm |
re: #253 Kenneth
Further evidence of Obama's Narcissistic Messianic Personality Disorder...
fixed
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:36:38pm |
re: #240 yesandno
Whatever might happen to Obama, he still was born to an American mother. Arnold will never be a natural born citizen. And seeing how he is jumping on everything liberal these days, I am just as happy he cannot run.
True, but Obama would still need a Consular Report of Birth, and I'm beginning to wonder if his mom or him ever bothered with that important bit of paperwork. Until a person has that piece of paper, he or she is NOT legally a natural-born American citizen.
(I know a bit about this because my Lizard in Training was born in England.)
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:37:44pm |
re: #241 yochanan
well it is a good time to go get a beer
Try Obama Beer.
Don't drink too many...you will wake up underneath a bus.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:12pm |
re: #259 goddessoftheclassroom
True, but Obama would still need a Consular Report of Birth, and I'm beginning to wonder if his mom or him ever bothered with that important bit of paperwork. Until a person has that piece of paper, he or she is NOT legally a natural-born American citizen.
(I know a bit about this because my Lizard in Training was born in England.)
And goddess is absolutely correct about that Consular Report of Birth - I had a daughter in Germany not long after Obama was born.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:24pm |
re: #260 NJDhockeyfan
Try Obama Beer.
Don't drink too many...you will wake up underneath a bus.
I'll bet it's a light beer
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Roentgen Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:33pm |
re: #233 sattv4u2
ROOM UNDER THE BUS NOT FOUND,,, GETTA NEW BUS
There is no room at the bus.
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:39pm |
re: #100 infidelia
That's pretty much New Ager boilerplate kind of stuff. Next someone will claim he was an Indigo Child.
Actually they have, it was posted a couple days ago. The Indigo Children endorsed him as one of theirs.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:51pm |
re: #240 yesandno
Whatever might happen to Obama, he still was born to an American mother. Arnold will never be a natural born citizen. And seeing how he is jumping on everything liberal these days, I am just as happy he cannot run.
Serving California with the necessity of having to deal with the California Legislature has changed Arnie drastically. He is not the republican I knew.
/line borrow from Barry
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:52pm |
re: #220 nikis-knight
Really? I wonder if he's putting in a self-delete feature.
I forsee a test thread with a whole lot of nothin'.
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
-Omar Khayyám
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:38:57pm |
re: #263 sattv4u2
I'll bet it's a light beer
With a nutty aftertaste.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:13pm |
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Lizard by the Bay Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:17pm |
LGF Spy is the shiznit! Seriously fun to watch.
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opnion Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:32pm |
re: #225 jemima
If it doesn't matter where Barry was born, then Arnold can run for Prez next time. Yea!
Lets not stop there. Ahmandinjad 1012!
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:44pm |
re: #249 Abu Boo Boo
if lindbergh was wrong about eugenics(and he was)he was probably wrong about his other conclusions.The guy was a hell of a pilot,but i wouldn't take his advise on anything outside that field.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:39:57pm |
re: #262 LeftJustAintRight
thank you. Its like seeing someone get hit by a car... its sickening but you cant turn away, and if you are decent you want to run do something to help or stop the tragedy....
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:13pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:15pm |
re: #257 jcm
I don't like a delete button for us to deleted our own. Some of the best stuff comes from goofs, typos and other "mistakes." We can't have lizards deleting they're own unintentional gems can we?
;-P
And that's just what uneducated me noticed.
Goddess, have at it.
(-:
*duck and run*
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:19pm |
re: #272 yochanan
is this a PAT PUKEANAN free zone?
So far - hope you haven't opened that door.
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:28pm |
re: #205 Athos
At the pace that Obama is going with throwing so many under the bus.....doesn't it bother anyone on the left that sooner or later he will toss them under the bus as well?
it is remarkable how many people and organizations he has flung up under there. he is a weak person. he won't fight for anyone or anything for too long. and he is a bad judge of character to affiliate w/ so much "rubbish" that must be disposed of.
i was thinking how he himself was thrown under the bus by his own mother. he was the first casualty of the desertion tactic he now so easily uses.
it's kind of pathetic.
and that statement abt, " being punished w/ a child" regarding his daughter, goes right along w/ his inability to make real bonds w/ people.
look for more casualties. i bet those around him are worrying.
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:40:58pm |
re: #277 pre-Boomer Marine brat
And that's just what uneducated me noticed.
Goddess, have at it.
(-:
*duck and run*
Where's my delete button!
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see bs Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:41:07pm |
I Heart LGF SPY! Thank you Charles for adding this function!
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Lizard by the Bay Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:41:51pm |
Now if only there were an option to make LGF Spy scroll from the bottom up (like the lounge) instead of the top down...
Yeah, I know. We lizards are never satisfied! :-)
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:41:52pm |
re: #218 unrealizedviewpoint
I respect Kucinich. At least he believes his rhetoric unlike most dem politicos who are in it for them, freak the masses.
No offense, but wouldn't that make him a bigger idiot?
#231 DesertSage
Oh, my! That's hysterical. I didn't even know Realwest had video of my test.
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:42:34pm |
re: #277 pre-Boomer Marine brat
And that's just what uneducated me noticed.
Goddess, have at it.
(-:
*duck and run*
I suffer from brain finger dissynciation! Brain and fingers operate independently.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:44:16pm |
I'm just waiting for the reports of LGF spy causing seizures in some Lizards. Just like the early Pokemon episodes did for some of the little critters watching them.
When the posting gets going that thing is faaaaast!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:44:45pm |
re: #280 jcm
Where's my delete button!
ARGH! I'm melting! I'm melting!
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:44:58pm |
re: #279 nyc redneck
I agree, I do think that this narcissism is learned behavior. It's all about him and political expediency. Everyone will be expendable.
It will be hard to build a loyal staff in that type of environment unless they are equally dysfunctional or will operate on the principle that they have nothing to lose and will get what they can before they end up under the bus.
Our enemies overseas will not miss out on this fundamental character weakness. They see it and will use it for their ends.
This guy really is culmination of the worst points of McGovern, Carter, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, and Kerry.
However, there are 2 that Barry will not toss under the bus no matter what. Michelle and Soros.
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:44:59pm |
i am so hungry, i am abt. to faint.
i hope the rest of the world is more than ok w/ that.
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Kenneth Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:45:09pm |
Here's a trend I would love to see more of...
Jewish Dem donor joins McCain team
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is attracting elite Jewish Democratic donors who backed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and are concerned about Sen. Barack Obamas (D-Ill.) stance toward Israel, say McCain backers who are organizing the effort to court Democrats.
McCain has already had several fundraising events with Jewish Democrats in Washington and Florida, say his supporters.
He also has the backing of Democrat-turned-Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.), who made history as the first Jewish vice presidential candidate and has recently raised questions about Obamas foreign policy vision for the Middle East.
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Roentgen Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:45:49pm |
Been with Obama a long time, through thick and thin?
Remembering the good old days when you used to see him all the time?
Thinking your ship has come in because he has a shot at becoming the next president?
Watch out. The next view you may see is this.
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right_on_target Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:45:51pm |
re: #261 galloping granny
If I'm not mistaken the Consular Report of Birth will give citizenship to those born of US citizens. But still they wouldn't be NATIVE BORN. Born in the United States or US territories.
Senator McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone , a US Territory at the time. Puerto Rico, US Guam, US Virgin Islands would all be NATIVE US Soil.
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yochanan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:01pm |
re: #278 CanadianBacon
So far - hope you haven't opened that door.
no shit sherlock
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:15pm |
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:22pm |
re: #289 Athos
However, there are 2 that Barry will not toss under the bus no matter what. Michelle and Soros.
It's hard to toss the bus owner and driver under the bus.
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canadianally Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:37pm |
No withdrawal of troops until certain conditions are met.
No artificial timetable.
Oh, this is Obama. (via HotAir)
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jemima Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:46:53pm |
#250
Exactly. The Dems change! the laws to whatever the need of the moment.
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:10pm |
re: #291 Kenneth
AARRGGHH! the dreaded jewish conspiracy!how dare people look after their intrests!
/kosling
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:28pm |
re: #292 Roentgen
Been with Obama a long time, through thick and thin?
Remembering the good old days when you used to see him all the time?
Thinking your ship has come in because he has a shot at becoming the next president?
Watch out. The next view you may see is this.
Way too clean....
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:39pm |
re: #289 Athos
I agree, I do think that this narcissism is learned behavior. It's all about him and political expediency. Everyone will be expendable.
It will be hard to build a loyal staff in that type of environment unless they are equally dysfunctional or will operate on the principle that they have nothing to lose and will get what they can before they end up under the bus.
Our enemies overseas will not miss out on this fundamental character weakness. They see it and will use it for their ends.
This guy really is culmination of the worst points of McGovern, Carter, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, and Kerry.
However, there are 2 that Barry will not toss under the bus no matter what. Michelle and Soros.
He threw his own grandmother under the bus. You can bet your bippy that if it came to a choice between Barack and Michelle, she would go right straight under the bus with grandma.
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:39pm |
re: #297 canadianally
No withdrawal of troops until certain conditions are met.
No artificial timetable.
Oh, this is Obama. (via HotAir)
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Um, yeah, but Ed Morrissey got that one pretty wrong. That interview is not from April of this year, it's from 2004.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:54pm |
re: #291 Kenneth
Here's a trend I would love to see more of...
So, there is HOPE. Join the RJC toady!
[Link: www.rjchq.org...]
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Right Brain Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:47:57pm |
Loony Left gets loonier:
A 9th Circuit Court judge was found to be maintaining a porn web site. He is presently sitting as a judge on several porn trials:
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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RTLM Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:00pm |
Anyone know what information is included on a Hawaii birth Certificate?
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Dahveed Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:04pm |
re: #291 Kenneth
That is a real feel good article. Do we dare say that Jews in America may be getting it?
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:06pm |
re: #292 Roentgen
Been with Obama a long time, through thick and thin?
Remembering the good old days when you used to see him all the time?
Thinking your ship has come in because he has a shot at becoming the next president?
Watch out. The next view you may see is this.
Now that's damn funny!
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yesandno Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:09pm |
re: #259 goddessoftheclassroom
True, but Obama would still need a Consular Report of Birth, and I'm beginning to wonder if his mom or him ever bothered with that important bit of paperwork. Until a person has that piece of paper, he or she is NOT legally a natural-born American citizen.
(I know a bit about this because my Lizard in Training was born in England.)
First we prove he wasn't born in Hawaii....then Hillary will take care of he rest!
But Arnold is still never going to be eligible unless they make another amendment to the Constitution. By the time that passes all the bells and whistles, Arnold will be too old to run....which works for me!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:28pm |
re: #297 canadianally
I can hear him saying it: "This isn't the myself I knew."
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:40pm |
re: #293 right_on_target
If I'm not mistaken the Consular Report of Birth will give citizenship to those born of US citizens. But still they wouldn't be NATIVE BORN. Born in the United States or US territories.
Senator McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone , a US Territory at the time. Puerto Rico, US Guam, US Virgin Islands would all be NATIVE US Soil.
You are mistaken. Native born US citizen can be born anywhere. It just means "not naturalized".
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Roentgen Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:48:52pm |
re: #300 jcm
Shoot! You're right, as usual. It should be coated with blood, guts, and worse.
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yochanan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:49:22pm |
chimay ale grand reserve hard to remember the IRON FIST RULE.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:49:37pm |
Ok I admit it. I am as dumb as obambi.
What is the LGF spy feature?
I clicked it but don't understand it.
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rain of lead Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:49:59pm |
hey guys, since this is an open thread
for any lizards in the middle tenn. area, who love great BBQ (put this joint on the list of places to visit before you die)
you may now return to the topic at hand :)
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:50:10pm |
re: #293 right_on_target
If I'm not mistaken the Consular Report of Birth will give citizenship to those born of US citizens. But still they wouldn't be NATIVE BORN. Born in the United States or US territories.
Senator McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone , a US Territory at the time. Puerto Rico, US Guam, US Virgin Islands would all be NATIVE US Soil.
You are right on the money as far as children born at the time my daughter and Obama were born. It is called "naturalized at birth" - and they are naturalized citizens, just as if they had immigrated to this country like Arnold did.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:50:21pm |
re: #309 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I can hear him saying it: "This isn't the myself I knew."
After he finds himself crawling out of a well.
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:50:30pm |
re: #304 Right Brain
Loony Left gets loonier:
A 9th Circuit Court judge was found to be maintaining a porn web site. He is presently sitting as a judge on several porn trials:
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
And your point is? Who would have figured...LOL
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:51:02pm |
re: #304 Right Brain
Loony Left gets loonier:
A 9th Circuit Court judge was found to be maintaining a porn web site. He is presently sitting as a judge on several porn trials:
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Except he was appointed by Ronnie?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:51:34pm |
Lawmakers say Capitol computers hacked by Chinese
WASHINGTON - Multiple congressional computers have been hacked by people working from inside China, lawmakers said Wednesday, suggesting the Chinese were seeking lists of dissidents.
The Pentagon last month acknowledged at a closed House Intelligence committee meeting that its vast computer network is scanned or attacked by outsiders more than 300 million times each day.
300 million a day?
PLEASE tell me Obama isn't on the "Congressional Computer Security Commitee". That would be bad.
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canadianally Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:51:50pm |
re: #302 Charles
Um, yeah, but Ed Morrissey got that one pretty wrong. That interview is not from April of this year, it's from 2004.
Yes, and I did forget to mention that. Although it does show a highly nuanced approach to the situation. LOL.
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:52:08pm |
re: #218 unrealizedviewpoint
I respect Kucinich. At least he believes his rhetoric unlike most dem politicos who are in it for them, freak the masses.
I don't think he does. He's in it for the show. It's all about him.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:52:32pm |
re: #304 Right Brain
Loony Left gets loonier:
A 9th Circuit Court judge was found to be maintaining a porn web site. He is presently sitting as a judge on several porn trials:
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
HAHAHAHAHA - ROFLMAO. Must be where that TV show I was watching the other day came up with that scenario.
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bulwrk Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:11pm |
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:40pm |
re: #319 SasquatchOnSteroids
Lawmakers say Capitol computers hacked by Chinese
300 million a day?
PLEASE tell me Obama isn't on the "Congressional Computer Security Commitee". That would be bad.
No but his campaign IT guy is....
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:43pm |
re: #310 rightwinger3
You are mistaken. Native born US citizen can be born anywhere. It just means "not naturalized".
No he isn't. They have changed the regs between then and now.
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right_on_target Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:53:54pm |
re: #310 rightwinger3
Thanx.
I'm going to research that more.
I wish the Weimarer Republik would have had the NATIVE BORN requirement in it's constitution!
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:54:21pm |
re: #323 bulwrk
my guess
father unknown
race caucasian
ROFLMAO! That would explain it!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:16pm |
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:55:59pm |
re: #326 right_on_target
Thanx.
I'm going to research that more.I wish the Weimarer Republik would have had the NATIVE BORN requirement in it's constitution!
Hell they would have just burned that along with the Reichstag.
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jemima Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:04pm |
#301
If Michelle went under the bus, it would be like Indiana Jones. She'd be hanging onto the bumper and trying to claw her way back into the driver's seat. Or maybe like Jack Traven in Speed, using her cuticle scissors instead of a Leatherman to cut the brake line.
Hugh Hewitt called it the Knight Bus 30 min ago. Barry as Ernie...hmmm.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:36pm |
re: #305 RTLM
Anyone know what information is included on a Hawaii birth Certificate?
The standard information on most long form birth certificates is date & time of birth, place of birth (hospital, etc.), name of witness(es) to birth, full name, address and birth place of parents, race. Signatures of all of the above. Some jurisdictions add things like the names of the parents' parents for ID purposes.
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Shaky Louie Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:48pm |
If B-HO is an empty suit, and we all agree he is - if we unzipped that suit who or what would step out?
Some one said, "Jimmah Carter, wearing Karl Marx jammies."
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Abu Boo Boo Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:56:53pm |
re: #255 Charles
I'm amazed that you're still trying to defend that ridiculous viewpoint.
David M. Friedman defended it in a book he wrote before Ben Stein's movie came out.
And so did Charles Lindbergh, through lessons he learned from his mistakes.
So I don't think the idea is so easily dismissed.
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tommygum Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:02pm |
re: #160 coquimbojoe
Maybe the Kenyans have one......
How cool would that be?
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jcm Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:06pm |
Gotta run....
A politician should have three hats. One for throwing into the ring, one for talking through, and one for pulling rabbits out of if elected.
Carl Sandburg
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AmeriDan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:15pm |
re: #314 rain of lead
hey guys, since this is an open thread
for any lizards in the middle tenn. area, who love great BBQ (put this joint on the list of places to visit before you die)you may now return to the topic at hand :)
Do you ever make it over to the Memphis area?
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:29pm |
re: #326 right_on_target
Thanx.
I'm going to research that more.I wish the Weimarer Republik would have had the NATIVE BORN requirement in it's constitution!
Me too. galloping granny says no and she's a lot smarter than me.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:32pm |
re: #321 Mars Needs Neocons
I don't think he does. He's in it for the show. It's all about him.
I wouldn't mind if it was all for his wife! Just proof that not all the loony lefties look like this [Link: www.tonyrogers.com...]
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:57:39pm |
Cocky Ignorance
Now that Senator Barack Obama has become the Democrats' nominee for President of the United States, to the cheers of the media at home and abroad, he has written a letter to the Secretary of Defense, in a tone as if he is already President, addressing one of his subordinates.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:58:41pm |
re: #324 jcm
No but his campaign IT guy is....
Oh, that puts my mind at ease. Pass the bottle.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:58:51pm |
re: #275 Karagush
thank you. Its like seeing someone get hit by a car... its sickening but you cant turn away, and if you are decent you want to run do something to help or stop the tragedy....
See #339
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:58:57pm |
re: #335 jcm
Gotta run....
A politician should have three hats. One for throwing into the ring, one for talking through, and one for pulling rabbits out of if elected.
Carl Sandburg
And don't forget the fourth hat, needed by Slick Willie to cover his groin.
Bye!
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:59:03pm |
re: #333 Abu Boo Boo
David M. Friedman defended it in a book he wrote before Ben Stein's movie came out.
And so did Charles Lindbergh, through lessons he learned from his mistakes.
So I don't think the idea is so easily dismissed.
Yes, it's very easily dismissed. This is a deceptive, reductionist, anti-science argument advanced by far-right groups to attack evolution and promote pseudo-scientific nonsense, and it's very much like Holocaust denial.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 3:59:06pm |
Charles (or anyone who knows)
What does the LGF spy thing do?
Help a bro...uh whitey out.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:00:06pm |
re: #344 Typicalwhitey
Charles (or anyone who knows)
What does the LGF spy thing do?
Help a bro...uh whitey out.
It is real time comments on the threads
It zooms
Careful now
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Abu Boo Boo Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:00:19pm |
re: #273 Boondock St. Bender
if lindbergh was wrong about eugenics(and he was)he was probably wrong about his other conclusions.The guy was a hell of a pilot,but i wouldn't take his advise on anything outside that field.
Wrong. He developed a perfusion pump that was a precursor to the heart-lung bypass machine.
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Athos Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:01:06pm |
re: #344 Typicalwhitey
When you are signed on to LGF and click on the Spy link, it should open a new tab in your browser that will give you an auto-refreshing scroll of all new comments and ratings done on the site regardless of thread. (You can turn these off by clicking the boxes on the top of the Spy page if, for example, you only want to see new comments.)
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:01:25pm |
re: #344 Typicalwhitey
Charles (or anyone who knows)
What does the LGF spy thing do?
Help a bro...uh whitey out.
It makes an already addictive and time sucking blog into an even more addictive and time sucking blog. Lizardoid Crack!
/seriously you can monitor all of the newest posts on all of the threads at one time.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:01:45pm |
re: #344 Typicalwhitey
Charles (or anyone who knows)
What does the LGF spy thing do?
Help a bro...uh whitey out.
Basically, it displays comments in the threads, in near real-time. It's a great way to lurk when you don't feel like chiming in. You can also keep an eye on previous threads to see if there are any recent comments. It f*cking rules, baby.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:02:26pm |
re: #349 DaddyG
It makes an already addictive and time sucking blog into an even more addictive and time sucking blog. Lizardoid Crack!
/seriously you can monitor all of the newest posts on all of the threads at one time.
Thank you guys!
This is totally awesome....help....I am getting sucked i..........
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yochanan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:02:27pm |
re: #333 Abu Boo Boo
David M. Friedman defended it in a book he wrote before Ben Stein's movie came out.
And so did Charles Lindbergh, through lessons he learned from his mistakes.
So I don't think the idea is so easily dismissed.
charle lindbergh is not a good proof around here sort of wish he had been lost than emilh erhart.
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Kenneth Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:03:07pm |
Toronto Islamic terrorist trial:
militant training camp was codenamed 'potty training' exercise
...again with the potty talk!
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:03:49pm |
Heading out to get a bottle of wine. More storms coming in...
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:04:00pm |
re: #351 Typicalwhitey
Thank you guys!
This is totally awesome....help....I am getting sucked i..........
Yeah... I was just checking in for 5 minutes and that was an hour ago.
/must resist political discourse... must complete work that I stayed late at office to do... resistance is futile...
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ggt Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:04:12pm |
So, how many computer monitors does Charles have in front of him at any one time? I think many. Unless, he is really good at managing multiple open windows. Which, of course, is entirely possible.
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mean Gene Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:04:31pm |
Ew.
Mugabe's henchmen burned the wife of one of his opponents alive today.
Yesterday it was a 6-year-old boy.
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
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Armywife Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:04:34pm |
re: #354 Noam Sayin'
Uhhh! Uhhh! Me! Me! AH is in San Antoin (oh boo hoo) and left me here to fend for myself! I need wine!
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:05:00pm |
re: #289 Athos
yes, i think he will keep the puppet master and probably the wife.
eventually enough heads will roll and it will reflect on him.
how can he not be seen as a frantic jerk throwing everyone overboard to save himself.
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:05:01pm |
re: #339 LeftJustAintRight
Cocky Ignorance
Sounds like a 2 million dollar agency and 500 new jobs right out of the chute for Obama.
/reaches in pocket to feel for extra change on hand.
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Armywife Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:05:26pm |
Maybe I don't need wine, I can't spell my own home town. SAN ANTONIO.
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saberry0530 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:05:40pm |
re: #355 DaddyG
Yeah... I was just checking in for 5 minutes and that was an hour ago.
/must resist political discourse... must complete work that I stayed late at office to do... resistance is futile...
Welcome to the dark side. We've enjoyed your stay. Come on back when you can't stay quite so long...
/s
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yochanan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:05:41pm |
chimay effects spelling looking up the IRON FIST RULE does that apply to typo's?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:06:06pm |
Does Wonkette have the same people as Obama running his website?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:06:09pm |
re: #361 Armywife
Maybe I don't need wine, I can't spell my own home town. SAN ANTONIO.
you're right ,, you can't spell it, seeing that you live in Denver ~!
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:06:49pm |
re: #363 yochanan
chimay effects spelling looking up the IRON FIST RULE does that apply to typo's?
Yes, grammar/word usage as well.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:06:59pm |
re: #337 rightwinger3
Me too. galloping granny says no and she's a lot smarter than me.
I know this for absolute sure because I did not receive just a long form Consular Report of Birth for my daughter, I also received her Naturalization papers. With strong warnings not to lose the same, as in pre computer days it was almost easier to replace the kid than it was to get new papers.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:07pm |
re: #362 saberry0530
Welcome to the dark side. We've enjoyed your stay. Come on back when you can't stay quite so long...
/s
You can check out anytime you please, but you can never leave.
Welcome to the Hotel Lizardfornia.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:10pm |
re: #341 LeftJustAintRight
See #339
I did. And was just getting ready to thank you for it! Good link! That dude is a whackjob, and people willing to follow him even nuttier than he is.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:28pm |
re: #358 Armywife
Uhhh! Uhhh! Me! Me! AH is in San Antoin (oh boo hoo) and left me here to fend for myself! I need wine!
After my kids bugged me for a while, I bought a blender. I also bought a bottle of TGIFriday's Strawberry Daiquiri mix (with rum already mixed in). I've been a happy Lizard the past several evenings!
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:44pm |
re: #356 ggt
So, how many computer monitors does Charles have in front of him at any one time? I think many. Unless, he is really good at managing multiple open windows. Which, of course, is entirely possible.
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right_on_target Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:48pm |
For LGF Spy ....
In FireFox.....
I turn off CSS styles and increase text size, makes it easier to read.
I DO need new glasses, though.
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:50pm |
If I seem unwilling to let comments promoting the intelligent design hoax stand unchallenged ... it's because I am.
It's a hoax. It's promoted by deceptive groups and religious fanatics.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:07:57pm |
re: #367 galloping granny
I know this for absolute sure because I did not receive just a long form Consular Report of Birth for my daughter, I also received her Naturalization papers. With strong warnings not to lose the same, as in pre computer days it was almost easier to replace the kid than it was to get new papers.
and you get the kid replacement papers from where ? (my 13 year old is on my last raw nerve today!)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:02pm |
re: #368 CanadianBacon
You can check out anytime you please, but you can never leave.
Welcome to the Hotel Lizardfornia.
Please! That sounds a bit obscene.
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SeafoodGumbo Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:12pm |
re: #319 SasquatchOnSteroids
Lawmakers say Capitol computers hacked by Chinese
300 million a day?
PLEASE tell me Obama isn't on the "Congressional Computer Security Commitee". That would be bad.
Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[70] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[71] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[72]
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yochanan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:16pm |
re: #364 NJDhockeyfan
Does Wonkette have the same people as Obama running his website?
I HEARD THE WONKETTE WANTED THE CLINTON ORAL OFFICE JOB?
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rain of lead Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:49pm |
re: #336 AmeriDan
Do you ever make it over to the Memphis area?
oh hell yeah! memphis has great Q, but this was a tip for locals plus anyone who found themselves in the area. this guy is smalltown little
joint who does amazing things with meat,fire and smoke- check his blog at the site for some true food pron.
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Armywife Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:08:49pm |
re: #365 sattv4u2
you're right ,, you can't spell it, seeing that you live in Denver ~!
AKK! I am in Denver? How the heck did that happen? Last I checked I had been transported to the People's Republic of Maryland!
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:09:02pm |
re: #361 Armywife
Maybe I don't need wine, I can't spell my own home town. SAN ANTONIO.
My hometown as well armywife.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:09:33pm |
re: #373 Charles
If I seem unwilling to let comments promoting the intelligent design hoax stand unchallenged ... it's because I am.
It's a hoax. It's promoted by deceptive groups and religious fanatics.
You could also say that about Hussein Obama
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:09:36pm |
This can't be true!
koskiddies are frikken nuts!
Carville Says Pick Gore for Veep
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:09:53pm |
re: #347 Abu Boo Boo
o.k. my point being that because someone is very good at something,does not mean that they are authorities on all subjects.his moronic embracing of eugenics,his short sighted america first non-sense,do not show why he should be right when he offers his opinion on science.(one,two three strikes your out.)
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:10:12pm |
re: #379 Armywife
AKK! I am in Denver? How the heck did that happen? Last I checked I had been transported to the People's Republic of Maryland!
I grew up in Maryland! Where do you live? Near Fort Meade, by any chance?
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:10:28pm |
re: #382 Typicalwhitey
This can't be true!
koskiddies are frikken nuts!
Carville Says Pick Gore for Veep
He is too typically Unpigmented
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:10:42pm |
re: #357 mean Gene
Ew.
Mugabe's henchmen burned the wife of one of his opponents alive today.
Yesterday it was a 6-year-old boy.
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
Oh dear G_d in heavens. That is the most horrifying thing. Absolutely inhuman. I am sitting here in tears.
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:10:47pm |
re: #339 LeftJustAintRight
seriously his ignorance of the military is breathtaking. What they do. How it works. Even how they are screened. Ugh. Reading this seriously just made me want to kick him. Even more.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:10:48pm |
re: #379 Armywife
AKK! I am in Denver? How the heck did that happen? Last I checked I had been transported to the People's Republic of Maryland!
ya think thats bad. 10 years ago I was a happy conservative amongst the hordes of liberals in Massachusetts. I said "yes" to a question my boss asked me (okay, so I admit, I really wasn't paying attention to him) and next thing I know I was transferred to Atlanta !
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:10:52pm |
re: #356 ggt
I picture him in front of what looks to be a network operation center(screens everywhere)
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:11:06pm |
re: #385 LeftJustAintRight
He is too typically Unmanbearpigmented
/fixed it for ya
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Abu Boo Boo Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:11:16pm |
re: #343 Charles
Yes, it's very easily dismissed. This is a deceptive, reductionist, anti-science argument advanced by far-right groups to attack evolution and promote pseudo-scientific nonsense, and it's very much like Holocaust denial.
I'm not impressed with arguments that are based on assumptions about your opponent's motivations.
And I don't think it's fair to characterize a philosophical position you don't agree with as "very much like Holocaust denial." Unless you can show that the two ideas are linked, or at least that leading ID proponents are Holocaust deniers, then it's nothing more than a smear.
Like it or not, evolution is very tightly linked to eugenics.
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:11:30pm |
re: #367 galloping granny
I know this for absolute sure because I did not receive just a long form Consular Report of Birth for my daughter, I also received her Naturalization papers. With strong warnings not to lose the same, as in pre computer days it was almost easier to replace the kid than it was to get new papers.
I take it you never had to replace the kid!
I read something recently that will supposedly correct this travesty. Bill defining "native-born"? I know it was here on LGF but can't find it now. Still doesn't make sense your daughter cannot be POTUS. Mine was born in Okinawa and she can.
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David IV of Georgia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:11:34pm |
re: #137 Dalibama
I heart Obama's blog. This one is a little different from what we have been reading there. I guess you could call it love speech.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community /post/sepuyasepuya/gG5gx5
The last person I heard talking like that would then go catatonic for awhile, cry for awhile, laugh for awhile, repeat.
Seems they had been off their meds for about a week...
Thankfully someone convinced them to start taking them again.
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:11:56pm |
re: #387 Karagush
seriously his ignorance of the military is breathtaking. What they do. How it works. Even how they are screened. Ugh. Reading this seriously just made me want to kick him. Even more.
That would be a hate crime
And that is Michelle's job
/kicking Obama
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:00pm |
re: #391 Abu Boo Boo
I'm not impressed with arguments that are based on assumptions about your opponent's motivations.
And I don't think it's fair to characterize a philosophical position you don't agree with as "very much like Holocaust denial." Unless you can show that the two ideas are linked, or at least that leading ID proponents are Holocaust deniers, then it's nothing more than a smear.
Like it or not, evolution is very tightly linked to eugenics.
I've learned that there's no way to convince folks like you. And no, it is not connected to eugenics, no matter how many times you say it.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:04pm |
re: #389 Boondock St. Bender
I picture him in front of what looks to be a network operation center(screens everywhere)
how dod you know thats what I'm doing as we speak (type) ?Q?!?!?!?
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Armywife Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:05pm |
re: #380 jorline
I miss it. AH gets to go back a lot (BAMC), I get to stay here. But I am not bitter.
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:09pm |
re: #381 LeftJustAintRight
You could also say that about Hussein Obama
LMAO
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:50pm |
re: #374 sattv4u2
and you get the kid replacement papers from where ? (my 13 year old is on my last raw nerve today!)
Thirteen is such a wonderful age. Boy?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:12:52pm |
re: #382 Typicalwhitey
This can't be true!
koskiddies are frikken nuts!
Carville Says Pick Gore for Veep
AHH. The birth certificate is in Gore's lockbox. Bribery !
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Karagush Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:13:13pm |
re: #357 mean Gene
people need to know. seriously. Its gotta get out.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:13:32pm |
re: #373 Charles
If I seem unwilling to let comments promoting the intelligent design hoax stand unchallenged ... it's because I am.
It's a hoax. It's promoted by deceptive groups and religious fanatics.
You are remembered by the company you keep, and we've (collectively) made that point stick in other posts. So, to add to the no-fly zone where racism, homophobia, and religious intolerance are banned we add "intelligent design".
No sense giving the opposition more targets than we have to.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:13:58pm |
re: #400 SasquatchOnSteroids
Anyone have any thoughts on a Bobby Jindal VP nod?
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AmeriDan Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:13pm |
re: #378 rain of lead
oh hell yeah! memphis has great Q, but this was a tip for locals plus anyone who found themselves in the area. this guy is smalltown little
joint who does amazing things with meat,fire and smoke- check his blog at the site for some true food pron.
Hopefully, within a month there will be some Memphis area Lizards meeting for dinner.
If interested, leave a comment here and someone will get back with you. It's still in the early stages of planning though.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:33pm |
re: #399 galloping granny
Thirteen is such a wonderful age. Boy?
yes. 99.999% of the time he is THE GREATEST. (straight A student, "select" soccer player, very respectful to elders). But then there is that other 0.001% of the time
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:39pm |
The MSM is right for a change
Unprecedented election year
Breaking records for turnout
And all for a Kenyan born candidate
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:42pm |
Obama's web security is probably the best contemporary argument against the existance of intelligent design.
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Charles Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:47pm |
re: #391 Abu Boo Boo
By the way, about "assumptions:" we've argued this over and over, and many facts have been offered to support my conclusions. They're conclusions, not assumptions. You've just ignored everything you don't want to hear.
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CanadianBacon Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:14:57pm |
re: #375 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Please! That sounds a bit obscene.
Nope. It's classic. You're thinking of the Red Hot Chili Peppers tune, Lizardfornication.
Now, that's obscene.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:14pm |
re: #403 Typicalwhitey
Anyone have any thoughts on a Bobby Jindal VP nod?
Too inexperienced, and the Repubs will have to use that charge against Obama
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:18pm |
re: #405 sattv4u2
yes. 99.999% of the time he is THE GREATEST. (straight A student, "select" soccer player, very respectful to elders). But then there is that other 0.001% of the time
That .001% of time should be spent outside mowing or cleaning the garage.
Problem solved! lol
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gromster Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:32pm |
After Islam flap, schools may limit religious assemblies
Excerpts:
Most of the Friendswood [Texas; near Houston] residents at a meeting demand junior high re-hires principal, some blast local officials, and others suspect group who gave presentation is linked to terroristsAbout 200 Friendswood residents, divided over a junior high principal's decision to let an Islamic group make a presentation to students last month, packed Tuesday night's school board meeting as the governing body considered whether to ban any future religious presentations by outsiders.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations in Houston sought permission to address the mostly Anglo student body at Friendswood Junior High after a Muslim student was stuffed head-first into a trash can by a classmate. Principal Robin Lowe agreed to the 40-minute PowerPoint presentation on the basic beliefs of Islam, which drew howls of protest from some parents, talk radio hosts and Christian clergy.
....Other speakers, however, accused CAIR of having links to terrorism.
....However, M.A. Khalili, a CAIR board member, vehemently denied the organization has any ties to terrorism.
....Hanks described the trash can incident as a "random, impulsive act" that had nothing to do with religious preference or ethnicity. The offending student was disciplined, she said.
....Hanks told the crowd the Islamic group had viewed the incident involving the Muslim student as a "hate crime" and had even reported it to the FBI.Hanks also said she allowed Lowe and an assistant superintendent to meet with the Islamic group.
But she had not given approval for the group to make a presentation, which including the statement that "Allah is God for all human beings," to the student body.
She called the Islamic group's presentation "a misunderstanding and miscommunication" which deviated from established policy.
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:35pm |
re: #392 rightwinger3
I take it you never had to replace the kid!
I read something recently that will supposedly correct this travesty. Bill defining "native-born"? I know it was here on LGF but can't find it now. Still doesn't make sense your daughter cannot be POTUS. Mine was born in Okinawa and she can.
When was yours born? Mine is 38.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:51pm |
re: #410 sattv4u2
Too inexperienced, and the Repubs will have to use that charge against Obama
Who do you like?
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right_on_target Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:15:51pm |
re: #403 Typicalwhitey
We need him HERE in Louisiana.
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Yankee Division Son Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:16:15pm |
I bought a new Ford F-150 and returned to the dealer the next day because I couldn't get the radio to work.
The salesman explained that the radio was voice activated.'Nelson,' the salesman said to the radio. The radio replied, 'Ricky or Willie?' 'Willie!' he continued and 'On the Road Again' came from the speakers.
Then he said, 'Ray Charles!', and in an instant ' Georgia On My Mind' replaced Willie Nelson.
I drove away happy, and for the next few days, every time I'd say, 'Beethoven,' I'd get beautiful classical music, and if I said, 'Beatles', I'd get one of their classic songs.
Yesterday, a couple ran a red light and nearly creamed my new truck, but I swerved in time to avoid them. I yelled, 'Ass Holes!'
Immediately the Iranian National Anthem began to play, sung by Jane Fonda and Barbara Streisand, backed up by Michael Moore and The Dixie Chicks, with John Kerry on guitar, Al Gore on drums, Dan Rather on harmonica, Nancy Pelosi on tambourine, Harry Reid on spoons, Bill Clinton on sax and Ted Kennedy on Scotch.
Damn, I LOVE this truck
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:16:27pm |
re: #403 Typicalwhitey
Anyone have any thoughts on a Bobby Jindal VP nod?
He is to young and inexperienced. Would undercut McCain's argument that Obama is not ready. Can't say that and then put Jindal a heart beat away.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:16:41pm |
re: #415 right_on_target
We need him HERE in Louisiana.
I like the guy.
I saw him speak and he seems so natural and informed. Very sharp.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:16:50pm |
re: #403 Typicalwhitey
Anyone have any thoughts on a Bobby Jindal VP nod?
Too early. But I like him.
Okay, BRB...
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:16:56pm |
re: #403 Typicalwhitey
re: #410 sattv4u2
Too inexperienced, and the Repubs will have to use that charge against Obama
With Jindal on the ticket, all the dems will have to do when we try to use the inexperience line against Obama is say "yeah, but McCain is old and Jindal is only a heartbeat away". We'll save Jindal for 2016 (or 2012 if we lose)
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galloping granny Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:05pm |
re: #405 sattv4u2
yes. 99.999% of the time he is THE GREATEST. (straight A student, "select" soccer player, very respectful to elders). But then there is that other 0.001% of the time
He is bored. Turn him on to SCRATCH. Computer programming language intended for kids in the 10-13 age group done by the nice folks at MIT. You'll just have to fight for computer time.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:14pm |
re: #411 Typicalwhitey
That .001% of time should be spent outside mowing or cleaning the garage.
Problem solved! lol
he does all that, and more
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:19pm |
Obama /Obama 08 !
/husband/wife POTUS and VP
Yeah baby
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David IV of Georgia Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:23pm |
re: #268 CanadianBacon 6/11/08 3:38:57 pmre: #263 sattv4u2
I'll bet it's a light beer
With a nutty aftertaste.
It has a pretty label and smells OK, but when you pour it, it's all foam.
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looking closely Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:29pm |
re: #410 sattv4u2
Too inexperienced, and the Repubs will have to use that charge against Obama
I agree.
Jindal would be a great candidate with a few more years experience under his belt.
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Armywife Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:34pm |
re: #415 right_on_target
I agree (but I am not in LA). I think Jindal has an incredible future, but he is needed in bayou right now, badly!
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:36pm |
re: #410 sattv4u2
Too inexperienced, and the Repubs will have to use that charge against Obama
Agreed. Soon though...2012, 2016.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:17:37pm |
re: #413 galloping granny
When was yours born? Mine is 38.
I think the technicality/language was corrected in the 80s because my Lizard-in-Training was born in 1992 (as I mentioned to yoi yesterday), and he's specifically a "natural-born American citizen."
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DaddyG Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:18:14pm |
re: #412 gromster
In Junior High being stuffed into a trash can would be considered part of the mainstream experience. And what the heck is "mostly Anglo?" Is there a large population of immigrants from Great Britain at Friendswood Junior High?
I think this particular Islamic group suffers from the same malady as CAIR... Offensisenitivity.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:18:19pm |
re: #423 LeftJustAintRight
Obama /Obama 08 !
/husband/wife POTUS and VP
Yeah baby
Other than it is unconstitutional it is also a revolting thought.
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:18:20pm |
re: #422 sattv4u2
he does all that, and more
Well then send him here!
I could use a nice son like that ;)
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saberry0530 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:18:27pm |
re: #415 right_on_target
We need him HERE in Louisiana.
Had to plus ya on that one, just wish he would have had the nads to rollback Stelly a little bit sooner.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:18:39pm |
re: #414 Typicalwhitey
Who do you like?
Romney is my 1st pick right now. he protects McCains vulnerability on 2 fronts. Economics and right wing
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rightwinger3 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:18:49pm |
re: #413 galloping granny
When was yours born? Mine is 38.
Mine is 8. (I meant she could be POTUS in 27 years!)
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rightymouse Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:19:03pm |
re: #218 unrealizedviewpoint
I respect Kucinich. At least he believes his rhetoric unlike most dem politicos who are in it for them, freak the masses.
You're not from Ohio, are you? He's a freaking joke here.
The guy about bankrupted Cleveland when he was mayor.
If you can respect someone who thinks like this...be my guest.
A snippet from the link.
"(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or"
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jorline Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:19:07pm |
re: #397 Armywife
I miss it. AH gets to go back a lot (BAMC), I get to stay here. But I am not bitter.
I'm just 125 miles south of SA, but I still miss it. My wife just called me, she's on her way to pick up our kids in Kerrville. She took the back roads up through Medina and Bandera, had to call me to rub it in about how beautiful the hill country is...sometimes she really pisses me off...lol
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LeftJustAintRight Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:19:25pm |
re: #431 Nevergiveup
Other than it is unconstitutional it is also a revolting thought.
The constitution was written by white slave owners and does not apply to them
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:19:57pm |
re: #425 Boondock St. Bender
ah,so you work in a noc?
Actually, a Satellite Teleport. We send and recieve satellite and fiber optic TV all over the world (mostly news, sports, satellite media tours, etc etc) There are at least 150 monitors within 10 feet of me
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:33pm |
re: #430 DaddyG
In Junior High being stuffed into a trash can would be considered part of the mainstream experience. And what the heck is "mostly Anglo?" Is there a large population of immigrants from Great Britain at Friendswood Junior High?
I think this particular Islamic group suffers from the same malady as CAIR... Offensisenitivity.
THAT really annoys me, too--it seems to be a euphemism for "white." My family's ancestors are European, but just a small percentage is English. Besides, "race" has NOTHING to do with religion!
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:54pm |
re: #439 sattv4u2
Actually, a Satellite Teleport. We send and recieve satellite and fiber optic TV all over the world (mostly news, sports, satellite media tours, etc etc) There are at least 150 monitors within 10 feet of me
Do you get all the MLB games live?
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Typicalwhitey Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:57pm |
re: #439 sattv4u2
Actually, a Satellite Teleport. We send and recieve satellite and fiber optic TV all over the world (mostly news, sports, satellite media tours, etc etc) There are at least 150 monitors within 10 feet of me
Could you do some finageling on the satellite thingies?
My cell phone doesn't get good reception out here in the boonies.
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Armywife Wed, Jun 11, 2008 4:20:58pm |
re: #429 goddessoftheclassroom
This actually hasn't been tested yet. There hasn't been an American that wasn't born on American soil that has tried to run. Maybe its been mentioned but there was an issue with McCain as he was born in the Panama Canal (on a military base). I would guess that if it WAS tested, so long as the child was born to American Citizen parents and not a foreigner on a military base, it would be considered a birth on American soil.
