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UN's Clouseau Meeting with US Radical Islamists

Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:48:37 pm PDT

Look who’s meeting with the United Nations “Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance,” Doudou Diene: Ahmed Bedier, former CAIR official and one of the most notorious front men for radical Islam in the United States: Jihad Watch: Ahmed Bedier in deep with Doudou.

UPDATE at 6/11/08 6:04:07 pm:

Here is Bedier’s own press release on the meeting: AHMED BEDIER: FL MUSLIM LEADERS TESTIFY AT UNITED NATIONS RACISM HEARING.

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1 pat  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:49:39pm

The Pink DouDou

2 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:49:52pm

Can we arrest Doudou now?

3 Sounder  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:49:58pm

There's lots of Doo-Doo to go 'round.

4 kifaya  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:06pm

Yep. In deep DouDou, for sure!

5 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:12pm

Groan.....

6 Thanos  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:14pm

A match made in hell.

7 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:24pm

They just look... evil...

8 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:43pm

Doudou isn't exactly a snappy dresser.

9 badger1  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:50:44pm

Do we not have any immigration officials?

10 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:51:26pm
11 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:51:47pm

This country has turned upside-down.

12 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:52:27pm

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

Screw the UN, and its phony concept of "human rights."

Give both of them the bum's rush.

13 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:18pm

You don't think there is any chance this bozo might meet with Obama? We couldn't get that lucky could we?

14 Render  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:26pm

Is it just me or is Bedier getting fatter every time we see him?

SUFFRAGETTE
CITY,
R

15 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:28pm

Charles, Charles.

Why are you picking on poor Ahmed Bedier? He is, after all, only a member of the Tampa Human Rights Council.

And who among us -- Diene included -- doesn't love the humans in Tampa?

16 ArmyWife  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:31pm

Well look. They are smiling and obviously friendly! They can't be evil or bad, maybe just misquoted!

/seriously, I am surrounded by people who think like this

17 offendi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:39pm

And when will Dooie be visiting Richard Reed? Surely there are also Muslims in prison in the U.S. for no reason.

18 dgax65  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:53:44pm

I'm sure an honest, impartial report will be forthcoming.....

///s

19 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:54:00pm

We walk away from the "Human Rights Council", yet we put up with this bullshit?

20 ArmyWife  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:54:11pm

re: #18 dgax65

or a sternly worded letter.

21 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:54:35pm

President Bush, where are your balls?

22 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:54:56pm

That's odd- I can't think of a more xenophobic, discriminatory bunch than islamists.

23 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:55:13pm

re: #16 ArmyWife

Well look. They are smiling and obviously friendly! They can't be evil or bad, maybe just misquoted!

/seriously, I am surrounded by people who think like this

Call in the Airborne!

24 brickthruplateglasswindow  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:55:19pm

Do your Islamists bite?

25 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:56:04pm

Was the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal there?
Mind-Crime bedfellows should stick together.

26 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:56:42pm
27 ironbill  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:57:23pm

It looks like doo doo and a piece of shit

28 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:58:27pm

I'm sending a $25 check to the UN right now, earmarked to purchase a travel-sized iron for Mr. Diene.

29 Daisy  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 5:59:23pm

Imposter Blues Brothers on a mission, not from God, but from Satan.

30 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:00:20pm

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

President Bush, where are your balls?

never had any. Afhanistan and Iraq were just lucky guesses. don't believe me? Look at his record....he has dissappointed the livin' shit outta me...

31 JeremyR  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:00:58pm

re: #13 Nevergiveup

You don't think there is any chance this bozo might meet with Obama? We couldn't get that lucky could we?

Which one?

32 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:01:15pm

And this is surprising- how?

cheers

eon

33 JeremyR  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:02:24pm

re: #28 Cognito

I'm sending a $25 check to the UN right now, earmarked to purchase a travel-sized iron for Mr. Diene.

Just lease an industrial size one and press the suit with him in it.

34 pegcity  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:02:38pm

Is he wearing a Mao Jacket?

35 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:02:51pm

re: #28 Cognito

I'm sending a $25 check to the UN right now, earmarked to purchase a travel-sized iron for Mr. Diene.

It's a Mao jacket. Supposed to fit like crap and look like hell. That means it is authentic.

36 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:02:53pm

re: #31 JeremyR

Which one?

Point taken. I mean Doudou.

37 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:03:06pm

re: #34 pegcity

Is he wearing a Mao Jacket?

Yup.

38 J'accuzzi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:03:11pm

Through clenched teeth and phony smile "Don't put that check in my pocket, I only accept cash".

39 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:03:50pm

re: #34 pegcity

Is he wearing a Mao Jacket?

An old one maybe or a coat he bought at Alexanders before it closed?

40 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:04:53pm

Yeah,well,when they stop raping everything in sight (peacekeeping,how precious) and quit siding with "militants" I'll show them an ounce of respect. Since it isn't going to happen, we need an end around organization that isn't a backslapper for its' own complete,utter failures.

42 ec marm  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:05:43pm

&#9835 Ebony and allahvory &#9835

43 HelloDare  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:06:07pm

Imagine the hue and cry if Doudoupants met with Mark Steyn.

44 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:06:29pm

This is like meeting with Goebbels to discuss the problem of Antisemitism in Germany...

The world is gone mad.

45 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:06:46pm
46 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:07:11pm

re: #41 Onslow

The hearing appears to have gone over like a lead zeppelin in Miami.

All I got was a search page that said no results found.

47 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:07:40pm

re: #41 Onslow

The hearing appears to have gone over like a lead zeppelin in Miami.

It looks like they've already deleted the article.

Quelle surprise, as they say.

cheers

eon

48 Paul  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:09:36pm

I'd wager that both Doudou Diene and Ahmed Bedier favor "hate speech" laws.

49 offendi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:10:13pm

re: #34 pegcity

Is he wearing a Mao Jacket?

Looks like he is ready to break out singing that " I'm Too Sexy For My Shirt" song, actually.

50 Onslow  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:10:52pm

re: #46 galloping granny

I think the event passed under the Herald's radar.

51 TS  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:10:54pm

This when Arab Muslims still practice chattel slavery of black Africans in Africa.
And look at those two....ironic.

52 bryantms  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:11:20pm

OT: Charles, have you started looking at FF 3 compatibility yet? I've noticed that everything works peachy except for the gray left and right borders on either side of the main content column. They tend to go in and out, being more sporadic on longer pages (comments). Just thought I'd mention it...

53 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:11:20pm

Does it get any more ironic than this? Somebody's gotta be making up all of this sh*t! It can't really be happening. The world cannot possibly have gone this insane in just the span of my lifetime! It's gotta be a joke.

54 Onslow  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:12:34pm

re: #47 eon


You may be correct, but what is the point of having archives? Especially when they charge for access.

55 JeremyR  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:12:46pm

re: #36 Nevergiveup

Point taken. I mean Doudou.

It was rhetorical I assure you.

56 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:12:55pm
Director Sofian Zakout, who also spoke at the hearing about personal experiences of bias and discrimination, said "Post 9/11 anti-Muslim hysteria has created widespread fear in the minds of American-Muslims and causing mental health issues."

Somebody call the Waaaaambulance!

57 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:13:43pm
58 chingachgook  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:14:35pm

Can someone explain why that asshat's on our soil? Is gitmo full?
And what will it take to pull the plug on hosting the UN? Can we vote our way out of the deal? NYC is a dumping for trash brought in by the UN. Toss 'em out and piss on 'em.

59 Charles  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:14:51pm

re: #52 bryantms

OT: Charles, have you started looking at FF 3 compatibility yet? I've noticed that everything works peachy except for the gray left and right borders on either side of the main content column. They tend to go in and out, being more sporadic on longer pages (comments). Just thought I'd mention it...

Those are simple CSS borders, nothing tricky at all. The Firefox beta owns that problem, not LGF.

60 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:15:32pm

Well thank goodness for Mr. Diene, I say.

Florida is clearly a third-world state, unable to protect its citizens from contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance. And all that.

Now that the UN has arrived, I expect Florida to blossom. I envision a place with sandy beaches, a burgeoning population, thriving businesses and -- dare I dream it? -- a citizenry comprising young and old people, blacks, Latinos, Jews...

A place where people from around the world might yearn to vacation, even. A place where people might seek to spend their Golden Years...

Aw, who am I kidding. It's a xenophobic hole.

61 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:15:48pm

re: #52 bryantms

I've been using FF3 with no problems viewing LGF (though my other computer does seem to have issues with the flash player installed. It keeps claiming that I need to install it, even though it's already installed (and reinstalled) several times.

62 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:16:22pm

Tow the whole UN in to open water and sink it. It is starting to make the League of Nations look effective. These guys are farce-o-matic. Incitement to violence and "fighting words" are already not particularly protected by the first amendment. This is as it should be. But given the pig swill that comes from the mouths of many a Muslim it might be well if they put their own houses in better order.

63 ec marm  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:16:29pm

Time for the brown note... &#9837&#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837 &#9837

64 loflyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:11pm

I remember An interview with Bedier a year ago when he was still with CAIR, and I can't remember the subject, but he came across as attempting to sound like a reasonable person supporting fundamental Islamic beliefs such as not recognizing Israels right to exist, segregation and regulation of female apparel, voting rights, driving rights, education and most other civil rights enjoyed by females in the west. Anyone not sharing his fundamentalist beliefs was an "Islamaphobe" according to Bedier. It would be interesting to know why he broke his ties to CAIR, there is a lot more to this guy than the MSM reports.
OT. GOT MY AIR CONDITIONER FIXED! WHOO WHOO!

65 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:16pm

re: #60 Cognito

Well thank goodness for Mr. Diene, I say.

Florida is clearly a third-world state, unable to protect its citizens from contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance. And all that.

Now that the UN has arrived, I expect Florida to blossom. I envision a place with sandy beaches, a burgeoning population, thriving businesses and -- dare I dream it? -- a citizenry comprising young and old people, blacks, Latinos, Jews...

A place where people from around the world might yearn to vacation, even. A place where people might seek to spend their Golden Years...

Aw, who am I kidding. It's a xenophobic hole.

had ta log in just ta ding ya up on that one,brother..well played

66 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:19pm

re: #54 Onslow

You may be correct, but what is the point of having archives? Especially when they charge for access.

Rather like Orwell's Ministry of Truth, they at least have to know what actually happened before they can tell everyone else how they wished it gone instead.

Charging for access just helps them keep from going farther into the red than they are.

/when was the last time a "mainstream" (i.e., impeccably P.C.) news organization showed a profit, anyway?

cheers

eon

67 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:22pm
68 Onslow  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:42pm

Nobody can say Mr. Diene isn't a quick study.

Obama's bid a milestone in fighting racism: UN expert

69 TS  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:17:57pm

Director Sofian Zakout, who also spoke at the hearing about personal experiences of bias and discrimination, said "Post 9/11 anti-Muslim hysteria has created widespread fear in the minds of American-Muslims and causing mental health issues.

Good they better be scared because we aren't gonna lay down and die and take it like the Christians in the middle east and Indonesia....although I don't buy it, if they were that scared they would actually do something about Islamic terrorism and Islamic oppression of minorities, or at least SAY something, but they don't. They just bitch and sue cause they can't touch dogs, or women, or they cant wear a uniform like everyone else, or they can't show their face for an ID...etc. etc.

70 bryantms  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:18:13pm

re: #61 lawhawk

I've had that same issue...kind of an odd situation as it's an Adobe product working with a Microsoft operating system on a Firefox browser. No one really wants to make the extension for Flash Player.

At least that's what I get from it...

71 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:18:33pm

I think this is a far more important issue for the UN to check into - and the US to deal with for that matter. US food aid is being seized by Mugabe's thugs. That food was meant for the children of Zimbabwe (because Mugabe's policies have turned a country that once was the breadbasket of Africa into hell on earth and reliant on foreign aid to sustain its population).

72 ec marm  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:18:42pm

re: #60 Cognito
Hey did you nic-jack oʇıuƃoɔ? This is the second time today I can't disagree with you. I guess I gotta re-boot this computer.

73 offendi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:19:09pm

Jimmy Carter must be pissed that he didn't meet with him first.

74 Reno911  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:20:11pm

re: #63 ec marm

Sometimes when I crank the bass way up and hit an open low E with a lot of sustain, I get stomach cramps.

75 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:20:19pm
Ahmed Bedier is a Florida based civil rights advocate and President of the Tampa Human Rights Council.

Why is it when you see people billed as "civil rights" advocates they tend to advocate elitist rights? In Tubby Bedier's case, he advocates muslim rights- so who does he think he's kidding? Oh, that's right- the people not paying attention, that's who.

76 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:20:57pm

re: #67 buzzsawmonkey

Whoah. We all know you weren't going "there" but take a look at that post a second.

Maybe, ec marm's post put me in just the right frame of mind for it, I don't know.

77 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:22:06pm

re: #34 pegcity

Is he wearing a Mao Jacket?

Or is that a Nehru Jacket?

78 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:22:52pm

re: #71 lawhawk

I think this is a far more important issue for the UN to check into - and the US to deal with for that matter. US food aid is being seized by Mugabe's thugs. That food was meant for the children of Zimbabwe (because Mugabe's policies have turned a country that once was the breadbasket of Africa into hell on earth and reliant on foreign aid to sustain its population).


I think that,in a perfect world,the United States military might have SOMETHING to say to mr.mugabe about our stolen food...the U.N. fiddles while the little children starve..how 20th century of them.

79 galloping granny  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:23:36pm

re: #77 Cygnus

Or is that a Nehru Jacket?

This is a Mao. Nehrus are more form fitting, have a higher collar and are usually ironed.

80 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:23:51pm

at some point we will tire of this stupid charade, of allowing these losers to carry on and thereby giving them credence. why tolerate those trying to harm our country. doo doo and the rest wrote their anti-american "reports" long before they looked at the facts.

81 Racer X  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:24:41pm

re: #63 ec marm

Time for the brown note... ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭

Shoot - I forgot to turn down my speakers.

Be right back.

82 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:24:46pm

re: #72 ec marm

He's just kissing ass. He'll return to his usual subterfuge soon enough.

I did admire the deft employment of snark, though.

83 Purple Prose  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:25:10pm

In a sane America, Bedier would have his citizenship revoked and be deported for subversive treasonous activity.

84 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:25:29pm

re: #71 lawhawk

There's a line in the movie Sahara where the bad guy says to one of his cohorts, "Nobody cares about Africa". That line has stuck with me, because for all these international elitists- I think it's quite true.

85 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:25:51pm

re: #82 Noam Sayin'

He's just kissing ass. He'll return to his usual subterfuge soon enough.

I did admire the deft employment of snark, though.

Hey Noam,can't ya cut the brother some slack?

86 UberInfidel67  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:26:45pm

Isn't Bedier the one that is MIA from CAIR? Is he gunning for a UN position?

87 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:27:10pm

re: #77 Cygnus

Or is that a Nehru Jacket?

Cygnus, please. That is a jacket from the future.

88 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:28:31pm

re: #82 Noam Sayin'

He's just kissing ass. He'll return to his usual subterfuge soon enough.

I did admire the deft employment of snark, though.

Yeah. I'm a big kiss-up.

89 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:28:36pm

re: #71 lawhawk

I think this is a far more important issue for the UN to check into - and the US to deal with for that matter. US food aid is being seized by Mugabe's thugs. That food was meant for the children of Zimbabwe (because Mugabe's policies have turned a country that once was the breadbasket of Africa into hell on earth and reliant on foreign aid to sustain its population).

Somalia, Sudan, Myanmar, Zimbabwe. Take a country at random, and if it has a collectivist government, any "inconvenience", let alone any natural or manmade disaster, is an excuse for the goons with guns to seize emergency aid coming in and let people they hate starve. It's cheaper than ammo for their Kalashnikovs.

As P. J. O' Rourke once observed, in the modern world, there's no shortage of food, just deliberate political interference in getting it to where it's needed. And famine, either naturally-caused or artificially created, is now a standard-issue "WMD" with Third World governments who would like to be rid of segments of their captive populations that they either don't trust, or just don't like for what Douglas Adams would call "the usual no-very-good reason(s)".

The only thing that surprises me about Zimbabwe (or, as the late Col. Jeff Cooper referred to it, Mugabestan), is that it's taken them 'til now to get around to this page of the "Third World True Socialist Great Leader's Handbook."

Somewhere in Hell, Mao is scratching his bald pate wondering if Mugabe slept through that lecture or something.

"Didn't I already explain the Great Leap Forward, Bob?"

cheers

eon

90 LoFlyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:29:16pm

re: #78 joecitizen

Africa has been going down hill ever since the European colonies pulled out. As oppressive and racist as the Europeans were, the population were not starved and killed in the millions as is fashionable today.
Africa needs to get its act together, and its not going to happen. Africa will be a hell-hole for another 100 years.

91 Syrah  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:30:12pm

re: #87 Cognito

Cygnus, please. That is a jacket from the future.

Was the future that long ago?

Seems like only yesterday.

92 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:13pm

re: #88 Cognito

You'll prove my point, soon enough. It's the whole reason ec marm was busting your balls in the first place. I just don't think you're sincere.

93 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:26pm

re: #91 Syrah

Was the future that long ago?

Seems like only yesterday.

I know. Sometimes I get nostalgic for the future.

94 JWM  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:31:33pm

Send these two bozos an anonymous letter saying that some moslems in Montana, and North Dakota are being oppressed. They can rent a Prius and drive out there to investigate.

JWM

95 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:19pm

re: #53 M. Bensson-Levi

The world has always been insane... except when sleeping between boughts of bing awake...

96 Syrah  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:33pm

re: #93 Cognito

I know. Sometimes I get nostalgic for the future.

Its really too bad. The future just ain't what it used to be.

97 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:44pm

being awake that is... PIMF...

98 ec marm  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:32:45pm

Re-booted... He's back.
Actually, Cognito forgot to mention the alarming incidence of STD in the Florida retirement communities. Once Ahmed Bedier gets all those post menopausal women properly burka-ed up, that issue should decline.

99 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:33:29pm

Someone should tell Tubby Bedier that while it's true pinstripes are slimming, they do have their limit.

100 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:33:30pm
101 abu_garcia  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:34:28pm

"Racism" to these people means not bending over far enough or fast enough.

102 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:34:46pm
"We thank SR Diene for hearing our concerns about the rise in anti-Muslim bigotry in the United States, and we appreciate his concern about Islamophobia's growing threat to world peace," said Ahmed Bedier.


Ha!

103 ointmentfly  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:21pm

The mysterious anti muslim movement.... I have yet to see one news story about any incident......

104 ec marm  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:36:23pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin'

You'll prove my point, soon enough. It's the whole reason ec marm was busting your balls in the first place. I just don't think you're sincere.


I was really not busting his balls. I thought it was an interesting commentary, and perhaps I should have been a tad less snarky. Sure beats what I perceive as knee-jerk contrarianism(sp?).

105 offendi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:37:33pm

When is Mr. Diene going to haul ass and check on the conditions of Jews in Syria and Bahai in Iran? When is a formal American delegation going to Mr. Diene's country to explore its concern and respect for human rights?

106 LoFlyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:37:36pm

And as we watch Africa sink into a death spiral of corruption, tribal and religous massacres. We also observe the rise of the domination of the UN by African and ME diplomats, many of the highest positions in the UN are held by Africans, is there any wonder why a global government dominated by politicians from the most corrupt continent on the planet has led the UN to ineffective and corrupt policies?

107 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:37:44pm

re: #91 Syrah

Was the future that long ago?

Seems like only yesterday.

I always thought it looked better on the ladies than the gents.

UFO; Fashions

Loved the mauve anti-static wigs on the Moonbase ladies. Not to mention their uniforms.

/As Zondy says, however, men in Nehru jackets look like total gits.

Check out the rest of his site, too- if you're into SF, retro-future, etc., it's a hoot. His snark approaches MST3K levels at times.

cheers

eon

108 Cognito  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:38:56pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Ha!

I know.

When people like Bedier claim that they're hated (or, alternatively, feared) in America, it's like a little smarmy guy standing in front of your mortal enemy, and saying, "You look angry."

Get out of the way, Bedier. It's not Muslims people hate, or Islam people want to dismantle. It's Islamists. Islamic supremacists.

109 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:39:10pm

re: #96 Syrah

Its really too bad. The future just ain't what it used to be.

I still wanna sue somebody 'cause I didn't get my flying car! WHERE'S MY DAMN FLYING CAR?!

/Big Popular Mechanics is ripping us off!

110 Racer X  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:39:39pm

OT
Another awesome picture I thought I would share:

Split-second shot
(Click to enlarge)

MOUNTAIN HOME AIR FORCE BASE, Idaho -- Capt. Christopher Stricklin ejects from the USAF Thunderbirds number six aircraft less than a second before it impacted the ground at an air show at Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho, Sept. 14. Stricklin, who was not injured, ejected after both guiding the jet away from the crowd of more than 60,000 people and ensuring he couldn't save the aircraft. This was only the second crash since the Air Force began using F-16 Falcons for its demonstration team in 1982. The ACES II ejection seat performed flawlessly. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Bennie J. Davis III)

111 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:40:17pm

re: #90 LoFlyer

Africa has been going down hill ever since the European colonies pulled out. As oppressive and racist as the Europeans were, the population were not starved and killed in the millions as is fashionable today.
Africa needs to get its act together, and its not going to happen. Africa will be a hell-hole for another 100 years.


I tend to agree with you but what if anything do you think will change in that 100 years? More and more as I look at the world,I find more genius in the so called Bush Doctrine as a means to really and finally reshape circumstances in these hell wholes..maybe enlightened democracy enforced at the end of a gun isn't the ideal circumstance but at least it's an effort in the proper direction and not the stand still moralizing of the U.N.,Europe and indeed much of the rest of the planet..of course it will be a long hard slog,but what of value isn't?

112 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:40:31pm

re: #106 LoFlyer

And as we watch Africa sink into a death spiral of corruption, tribal and religous massacres. We also observe the rise of the domination of the UN by African and ME diplomats, many of the highest positions in the UN are held by Africans, is there any wonder why a global government dominated by politicians from the most corrupt continent on the planet has led the UN to ineffective and corrupt policies?


Ironic. Some evangelicals have said off the record that, "Satan has won Africa"...

113 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:41:40pm

re: #104 ec marm

I meant that, of course, in the lightest sense of the phrase. I'm sorry if I insinuated any mean-spiritedness in your post.

Tornado warnings; two counties away. By my calculations, the storm should lose just enough energy by the time it arrives, that it will be a magnificent display of lightning and thunder without the messy risk of a twister.

I picked the wrong night to stop smoking weed.

114 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:41:54pm

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

I agree, buzz. To an extent, you prove my point. The elitists only have "feel good" solutions for Africa- nobody wants to get down to the root causes and come up with real, long term solutions. Why- that might be hard and stuff.

115 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:42:53pm

re: #71 lawhawk

I think this is a far more important issue for the UN to check into - and the US to deal with for that matter. US food aid is being seized by Mugabe's thugs. That food was meant for the children of Zimbabwe (because Mugabe's policies have turned a country that once was the breadbasket of Africa into hell on earth and reliant on foreign aid to sustain its population).

these wimps aren't going to go anywhere and confront anyone who would shoot them in the head. or mugabe's henchmen, who would give them a necklace.
doo doo etc. want to come here and dine out in fancy restaurants and be the honored guests at elite cocktail parties. and demean america w/ leftist assh*les like the bill ayers terrorist crowd.
that is how these u.n. phony jerks help the world.
and the real victims of prejudice and brutality continue to suffer because it is the weak pretending to be brave.
it is madness.

116 Viking6  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:19pm

I for one have had enough. If we are going to be put in the category of Imperial Power by the left and UN minions then by G_D we need to alert the legions, line them up and march across the globe taking what is rightfully ours. Starting of course with Congress.


/wishful thinking -sarc on / off

117 LoFlyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:24pm

re: #110 Racer X

OT
Another awesome picture I thought I would share:

Split-second shot
(Click to enlarge)

Great shot, glad the guy made it! I notice he is not using the face curtin to trigger the ejection. He doesn't have much time to get out!

118 Syrah  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:37pm

re: #107 eon

Thanks.

I will check that one out.

119 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:43:53pm

Clouseau, you say?

Bimb.

120 ointmentfly  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:44:16pm

re: #106 LoFlyer
Thats because of Africa's rich history of world leadership..... all bullshit aside, the UN is another failed liberal experiment...

121 ccrnyc  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:44:49pm

Hey, someone needs to make a doo doo joke, and pronto.

122 jaunte  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:46:16pm

re: #121 ccrnyc

Sting:

123 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:46:33pm

re: #121 ccrnyc

Hey, someone needs to make a doo doo joke, and pronto.

Look up the first thread about him. Plenty!

124 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:48:10pm

re: #121 ccrnyc

Hey, someone needs to make a doo doo joke, and pronto.

We need doo doo to give us a courtesy flush!

125 Catttt  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:48:29pm

OT

MY BEST OBAMA POSTER

so far

/hat tip Michelle Malkin

126 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:08pm

Single-horned 'Unicorn' deer found in Italy

Obama did that

/MyBarackObama/lifeworker

127 Catttt  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:18pm

re: #121 ccrnyc

Hey, someone needs to make a doo doo joke, and pronto.

It seems I showed up on this thread just in time to slap you upside the head. /

128 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:49:33pm

re: #121 ccrnyc

Pull my finger.

129 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:50:30pm

re: #99 Sharmuta

Someone should tell Tubby Bedier that while it's true pinstripes are slimming, they do have their limit.

LOL! Seriously, I barked. Still chuckling...

130 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:50:59pm

re: #128 Noam Sayin'

Pull my finger.

Kid, get to the bathroom and brush your teeth.

*snicker*

131 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:51:16pm

re: #125 Catttt

LOL

Here's one for this thread.

132 loflyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:53:22pm

re: #111 joecitizen

I tend to agree with you but what if anything do you think will change in that 100 years? More and more as I look at the world,I find more genius in the so called Bush Doctrine as a means to really and finally reshape circumstances in these hell wholes..maybe enlightened democracy enforced at the end of a gun isn't the ideal circumstance but at least it's an effort in the proper direction and not the stand still moralizing of the U.N.,Europe and indeed much of the rest of the planet..of course it will be a long hard slog,but what of value isn't?

Joe I agree one hundred percent. None of the liberals understand that exporting democracy to the ME is a good thing. They seem to feel that feudal kingdoms and Islamic republics devoid of even basic human rights or dignity and love to kill anything that is not Muslim is a good thing. You don't see NOW or Code Pink demonstrating against Saudi Arabia or Iran, nope they are way to busy demon stating against US Marine recruiters in Berkley. You got to have your priorities! The Bush agenda of democracy in the ME was breathtaking in its boldness.

133 Tarkus289  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:55:01pm

re: #132 loflyer

Only your first 11 words were necessary.

134 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:56:23pm

re: #111 joecitizen

I tend to agree with you but what if anything do you think will change in that 100 years? More and more as I look at the world,I find more genius in the so called Bush Doctrine as a means to really and finally reshape circumstances in these hell wholes..maybe enlightened democracy enforced at the end of a gun isn't the ideal circumstance but at least it's an effort in the proper direction and not the stand still moralizing of the U.N.,Europe and indeed much of the rest of the planet..of course it will be a long hard slog,but what of value isn't?

I'm with you Joe, I can't think of any significant change in human circumstance that is not connected to warfare. Guess that is why all those war dates are used in history classes. If someone thinks there is hope for a redirect with Iran without violence for example, I would welcome news of some precedent. Some lizard historian may have a citation since I don't. The Mouse That Roared is the only one that comes to mind, but it may not count.

135 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:56:50pm

re: #133 Tarkus289

Only your first 11 words were necessary.

I dunno..I kinda dug the last 13 also...

136 maddogg  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:57:01pm

Well, well. Two of my favorite groups getting together to swap spit and take warm showers in the wee hours.CAIR and the Useless Nitwits. The Devil gets a field day, while two completely corrupt groups put on the dog and pony for the clueless.


*spit*

137 offendi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:57:20pm

re: #90 LoFlyer

Africa has been going down hill ever since the European colonies pulled out. As oppressive and racist as the Europeans were, the population were not starved and killed in the millions as is fashionable today.
Africa needs to get its act together, and its not going to happen. Africa will be a hell-hole for another 100 years.

Unless Angelina or Madonna adopt it.

138 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:58:49pm
139 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 6:59:30pm

re: #137 offendi

Unless Angelina or Madonna adopt it.

then we"d be talking about a tragedy of a different nature entirely..

140 loflyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:00:31pm

re: #133 Tarkus289

Only your first 11 words were necessary.

I'll try to be more succinct! Give me a break, Just got my house A/C fixed and am on my second beer! To to it off we have thunderstorms all around us and it looks like we are going to be soaked! We are in a draught around here! Rain is starting to come down now! Whoo Who!

141 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:01:19pm

Who can stop at one obama poster?

142 Tarkus289  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:02:42pm

re: #140 loflyer

My comment was not a criticism, I was just pointing out that your first 11 words pretty much sums up the left, they just don't understand. Period.

143 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:02:42pm

re: #114 Sharmuta

I agree, buzz. To an extent, you prove my point. The elitists only have "feel good" solutions for Africa- nobody wants to get down to the root causes and come up with real, long term solutions. Why- that might be hard and stuff.

Also, as Alvaro Vargas Llosa, et al., say of their own region in Guide To The Perfect Latin American Idiot, the "intellectuals" in the UN, Europe, American academia, etc., view Africa as just one more laboratory for experiments with their favorite answers to all the world's ills, namely Marxist/Leninist collectivism with a side order of Rousseauian primitivism. The idea being that if they can make even one African country a "showcase" of successful socialist/environmentalist rule, they can shame America into becoming a true "progressive" state.

And if it doesn't work, they can always fall back on their default (and subtly racist) excuse, "Well, they [the "locals"] just aren't 'enlightened' [i.e., smart] enough- we can do it better the next time (after you give us more money to play with and stop looking so closely at what we actually are trying to do with it)."

I don't expect any change in the mindset of those responsible for enabling the kleptocratic regimes of Africa to continue stealing and killing, anymore than I expect the Sun to rise in the West tomorrow morning. Some things are just logically impossible.

/Sort of like Dennis Kucinich or Al Gore making sense

cheers

eon

144 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:03:59pm

Uh... oh...

Due to technical difficulties, the radar display is temporary unavailable. Thank you for your patience.

145 Thanos  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:04:52pm
146 cajunbelle  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:05:14pm

OT: This is amusing:

Gadaffi Fears Israel Will Try to Kill Obama

Another of B. Hussein's admirers.

147 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:05:17pm

re: #141 Sharmuta

Who can stop at one obama poster?

they will have buyer's remorse before it's all over.

148 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:05:30pm

re: #144 Noam Sayin'

Uh... oh...

head to the basement and fire up that doob is my advice...

149 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:06:34pm

Anyone see this breaking news?

Tornado Kill 4 at Boy Scout Camp in Iowa

150 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:06:35pm

re: #148 joecitizen

Looks like that tornado warning box is holding together a little longer than I had anticipated.

Missed it by that much.

151 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:07:13pm

re: #149 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see this breaking news?

Tornado Kill 4 at Boy Scout Camp in Iowa

I just did, and I'm heartsick for their families.

152 shibumi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:07:43pm

re: #131 Sharmuta

LOL

Here's one for this thread.

I never get tired of those 'title your own Obama posters.'

Another classic.

153 Winslow  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:05pm

re: #145 Thanos

Thanos, you may have missed this.

154 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:31pm

When the UN gets some balls and stands up to Islamic nations about their horrid treatment of women, then maybe I'll be a bit more positively inclined toward them.

And if they can really reach down and grab 'em by telling the Islamists that the world community (heh) will no longer accept mass murder by suicide, then I'd stand on a chair and shout!

Alas, I expect neither to happen.

So why are we still giving the UN a gajillion bucks a year? Just so they can send some flunky over to criticize us?

That building at 760 United Nations Plaza should be turned into a museum to honor victims of dictatorial/totalitarian regimes.

155 brownmear  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:56pm

A is A

I want A to be $100 million.

But A is A.

Damn that Bush, when obama is president it will be different!

156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:08:56pm

United Nations Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance, at a Miami hearing to discuss Islamophobia and anti-Muslim discrimination.

Nice.

157 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:09:21pm

re: #150 Noam Sayin'

Looks like that tornado warning box is holding together a little longer than I had anticipated.

Missed it by that much.


hang in there Noam and good luck!

158 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:09:38pm

re: #149 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see this breaking news?

Tornado Kill 4 at Boy Scout Camp in Iowa

i just heard that on the radio. how heartbreaking.
so sad for their families.

159 LoFlyer  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:11:06pm

re: #148 joecitizen

head to the basement and fire up that doob is my advice...

My favorite

doobbie!

160 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:12:28pm

re: #157 joecitizen

Thanks, dude. I'm kind of relying on the heat island effect here in inner-city Mpls, and that it's after dark. The storm is going to lose energy rather quickly. Folks down south don't have that kind of buffer, I understand.

161 shibumi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:12:35pm

re: #154 Intrepid

When the UN gets some balls and stands up to Islamic nations about their horrid treatment of women, then maybe I'll be a bit more positively inclined toward them.

And if they can really reach down and grab 'em by telling the Islamists that the world community (heh) will no longer accept mass murder by suicide, then I'd stand on a chair and shout!

Alas, I expect neither to happen.

So why are we still giving the UN a gajillion bucks a year? Just so they can send some flunky over to criticize us?

That building at 760 United Nations Plaza should be turned into a museum to honor victims of dictatorial/totalitarian regimes.

At one point, didn't McCain mention something about a super-hero sounding League of Democracies? In theory, something like that sounds good, until the pushy, overbearing democracies (like France) make you invite people you don't like (lets say Libya) to the group. Then it's screwed.

162 Thanos  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:12:54pm

re: #153 Winslow

Thanos, you may have missed this.

Nicely done Winslow; thanks kindly for the mention but I'm just a small synapse in the large reptilian blogmind that all the world must heed.

163 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:13:54pm

re: #61 lawhawk

I've been using FF3 with no problems viewing LGF (though my other computer does seem to have issues with the flash player installed. It keeps claiming that I need to install it, even though it's already installed (and reinstalled) several times.

I'm having the same flash player issue with FF3.

164 Former Belgian  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:15:26pm

re: #90 LoFlyer

Africa has been going down hill ever since the European colonies pulled out. As oppressive and racist as the Europeans were, the population were not starved and killed in the millions as is fashionable today.

A notable exception being, alas, the Belgian Congo in the latter part of the 19th Century. When it was the personal colony of king Leopold II, rubber quotas were imposed and forcibly met "by any means necessary". The "body count" from this apparently runs in the seven digits ;-)

The outcry against the situation there inspired what some have called the first modern human rights movement. Eventually Belgian parliament felt they had to so something, and basically voted through a law under which the Belgian state bought the colony from Leopold II. Under Belgian colonial administration (rather than L2's personal plunder), things shaped up quickly (not that they could go further down).

165 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:16:17pm

re: #161 shibumi

At one point, didn't McCain mention something about a super-hero sounding League of Democracies? In theory, something like that sounds good, until the pushy, overbearing democracies (like France) make you invite people you don't like (lets say Libya) to the group. Then it's screwed.

I think it is a good idea, but like everything the devil is in the details. There would have to be a very strict and measurable set of benchmarks to be met for membership with regular review. Never happen.

166 Winslow  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:17:38pm

re: #162 Thanos

The smallest synapse embiggens the largest blogmind.

167 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:18:11pm

re: #161 shibumi

At one point, didn't McCain mention something about a super-hero sounding League of Democracies? In theory, something like that sounds good, until the pushy, overbearing democracies (like France) make you invite people you don't like (lets say Libya) to the group. Then it's screwed.

How about we put in place a "League of Democracies" and just conveniently forget to invite France? We can claim that the invite was lost in the mail, and since some civic transportation group is always going on strike in France, maybe they'd believe it?

/we can dream, can't we?

168 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:22:03pm

It looks like Doudou, smells like Doudou, tastes like Doudou, it's a good thing we didn't step in it.

169 winston06  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:30:45pm

Shame on the freaking state dept for letting this a$$hole in

170 offendi  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:30:58pm

re: #139 joecitizen

then we"d be talking about a tragedy of a different nature entirely..

But wouldn't it be even worse if Tom Cruise adopted Africa?

171 eon  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:31:26pm

re: #161 shibumi

At one point, didn't McCain mention something about a super-hero sounding League of Democracies? In theory, something like that sounds good, until the pushy, overbearing democracies (like France) make you invite people you don't like (lets say Libya) to the group. Then it's screwed.

I think McCain may be looking at it in terms of a successor to the UN. Don't forget, while the UN was formed in the waning days of WW II as a successor to the League of Nations, the League wasn't officially dissolved until a year after the official founding of the UN. Like the LON, McCain may view the UN as a failed organization with a low long-tern survival potential, and thus may be thinking in terms rather like those of the college professor in H. Beam Piper's story

The Edge Of The Knife

Which would indicate that he has at least a nodding acquaintance with the theories of Arnold Toynbee.

/we can hope, anyway, considering the cluelessness of his opponents- both of them

cheers

eon

172 unclassifiable  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:32:11pm

These last two articles makes me think that the United States need to get a case of hard hearing for the opinions of the rest of the world.

I am not proposing isolationism. I am proposing that we adopt what is so readily displayed by every other country towards the U.S. Namely, mind your own business.

173 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:38:16pm

re: #144 Noam Sayin'

Uh... oh...

Noam, try this site. I like the NEXRAD Radar better then NOAA's.
The Weather Underground

174 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 7:56:14pm
175 republic  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:00:28pm

USA out of the U.N. NOW!

U.N. out of the USA NOW!

176 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:11:51pm

Those two guys looked like they just burned one.

177 astronmr20  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:12:09pm

Kick this motherfucker OUT of our country.

178 kevinmumaw  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:12:41pm
AHMED BEDIER: FL MUSLIM LEADERS TESTIFY AT UNITED NATIONS RACISM HEARING.

At the top oh his page, A leading American Muslim voice.

Hint: If you have to tell people this, it might not be as true as you think.

179 astronmr20  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:13:12pm

Fuck it. This country is for sale. It doesn't matter anymore.

180 JWM  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 8:59:53pm

Doudou and Beier join forces on a lonely search for islamophobia in the American West. Somewhere, in the night, they find each other.

Sincere Pictures presents:
Brokeback Moslem
Coming to a mosque near you.

JWM

181 BigPapa  Wed, Jun 11, 2008 10:52:25pm

From Bedier at the press release:

"We thank SR Diene for hearing our concerns about the rise in anti-Muslim bigotry in the United States, and we appreciate his concern about Islamophobia's growing threat to world peace," said Ahmed Bedier. "Civilized nations must take concrete action to curb incitement of racial and religious hatred by supporting dialogue and education."

Mr Bedier,

If you really want to protect Muslims from Islamophobia and promote peace it would seem more beneficial to spend your efforts countering your fanatical brethren who insist of terrorism, anti-Semitism and anti-Westernism as a mode of operation. Seeing as how Islam is a religion of peace you should stand between your crazy ass fundamentalist brothers and everybody else. All that 'caliphate' and 72 raisin talk, the whole subjugation of women, and did I mention the bombings? That's freaks everybody out. Can you blame them for being a tad 'phobic?'

If there was nothing to be phobic about, there would be no Islamophobia, no? Though we like to make fun of others, there's no Swissophobia, or Hinduphobia, or Floridophobia... get it?

Just trying to help.

With the warmest and sincerest sarcasm, Mr Papa.

182 Jed  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:03:56am

The UN is a cesspool of hate and dementia.

183 red collar  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:56:17am

Meanwhile, the Canadian Islamic Counsel can't believe "islamophobia" isn't on top of the hate list of crimes in Canada.

So Bedier is back. Good for him, he seems perfectly trained for his new job.

184 eaglewingz08  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:35:12am

Send this piece of Doudou to any muslim country to investigate their teachings and conduct toward non muslims and/or non arabs. Send him to Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran, throughout the 57 Islamic Conference, and let him make an 'objective' assessment of the racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and antisemitism prevalent there. Unfortunately, for this piece of deep Doudou, there are only three countries that are 'racist', Israel, USA, and Denmark (the cartoons naturally). Everyone else has paid their taqqiya to their overlords and get a pass from this charlatan.

185 BlackRedneck1  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 1:36:56pm

I'm back, I'm back. After the great computer crash, I was finally able to re-register. Just in time to say that Doo-doo sucks, back to Africa with him! Africa must save itself. Good luck on that. But, I've been done with the apologists about the time I saw all those stories about men raping babies to cure AIDS or refusing vaccines to get back at the Great Satan. Some wacko mother saying that she's ok that her baby is paralyzed from polio cause she didn't want the evil vaccine. She really showed me. How's that working out for you and your kid? If you want to see a lefty's head explode, start comparing Taiwan or South Korea to any country in Africa...


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