I must break you!

The scissors are a nice touch...

Obama. Just. Say. NO!

I don't know about the glasses.

Awesome photoshop - fu!

These aren't the people I knew!

He'll "disassociate" himself long enough to get elected, then welcome these fools into the White House with open arms and great fanfare!

NOBAMA '08

Love the red borg eye lol

Louie's face is priceless.

don't worry folks...
he'll be baraaack.

steel steal-tipped shoes for industry

NOBAMA '08!¤

There's something about the look on his face that really does give me the creeps.

Just noticed the flag....bwahahahahah!

Any chance the Gov of California is on Obama's short list for VP.

As nuts as that sounds, the more I think about it, the more it seems possible.

Let him go running with those scissors. Let's Roll!

As time goes on more people and places will need to be added.

"Once I throw you under the bus, you won't be back."

/Schwarzenegger voice off

What does it say on the sunglasses?

re: #12 Cognito

There's something about the look on his face that really does give me the creeps.

The Manchurian Cyborg.

re: #14 brainwizard73

Any chance the Gov of California is on Obama's short list for VP.

I'd imagine the same restrictions for running for POTUS also apply to VPOTUS. My guess is...thankfully, no.

I could no more......that's not the.......Israel is only doing...................fahgetaboutit;
what does a guy have to say to get elected around here?
Warcrimes! I love hillary! Global warming! Bring it on! I have forgotten what a gag reflex is!

It's missing the G-Ma

Due to the Line of Succession

A prediction for, say, circa 2011:

"This is not the me that I knew."

Barack Obama: "Friends"

Oh hell check this one out:
Live Vote
Should an Islamic school be allowed to lease county property while using textbooks that teach intolerance? * 3053 responses

No way. The school should be shut down immediately.
67%

Yes. One way to teach tolerance is to show tolerance.
14%

The school should be forced to select new textbooks or lose its lease.
19%
Not a scientific survey. Click to learn more. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.
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Hahaha, niiiiice... Very nice.

Usually political photoshops are pretty bad, but this one is awesome.

re: #21 swamprat

what does a guy have to say to get elected around here?

"The seas will recede, the clouds will part and the Sun will shine when I am elected!"...

Or, some bullshit like that.

Bike is missing. Or a bicycle pump.

For some reason I pictured him as a bus driver on a rampage. Oh well I can deal with the Terminator motif.

/who's next on his list.

I'll be Barrraaakk.

/Schwarzenegger voice.

He bad.

Has he released his birth certificate yet?

I still say that he's not as large as most people think he is. I'd put him at 5'10 tops, probably less than than.

But until he releases that information, he's a giant among men.

Well...a Terminator link...with a secret message for Barbara Helga O....

re: #31 metal man

already done see #10

re: #34 kostya lotz

Damn, gotta be quick around here..

Nice! I wouldn't be surprised if we see a sequel before the general, he will have more ties to cut.

If I had the time and the computer skills, I'd get a video clip of Barry O speaking, and dub in the Terminator saying, "F**K YOU, A**HOLE" as a companion to this graphic.

sorry ot..seems I haven't seen any posts lately by savage nation or songanddanceman...anybody know anything or are they just off on some unimaginable tryst together?

Too bad the whole church couldn't fit into the photoshop.

I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.

and your estate, your capital gains, your windfall profits......

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

Yup, that's the one!

re: #38 joecitizen

Pushed the host, got the boot.

Hilarious! I love it.

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

Pushed the host, got the boot.

wow no shit? whodathunk it?

I love Reverend Wright's facial expression.

re: #44 joecitizen

wow no shit? whodathunk it?

frankly,I'll miss 'em both...mostly added to the atmosphere IMHO.

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

I heard about Savage's meltdown, but what did S&DM do?

re: #40 formercorpsman

I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.

and your estate, your capital gains, your windfall profits......

Day 1.

re: #38 joecitizen

sorry ot..seems I haven't seen any posts lately by savage nation or songanddanceman...anybody know anything or are they just off on some unimaginable tryst together?

Uh.....S+DM believes that man is evidence of intelligent design. Savage thinks otherwise and has declared his intent to rectify the situation.

re: #47 mikalm

I heard about Savage's meltdown, but what did S&DM do?

if anyone is giving details,I'd love to know.

re: #29 swamprat

Bike is missing. Or a bicycle pump.

Bowling ball.

Iraq.

I have to go to sleep Lizards!

Have a great evening!

I'd pay good money to see him disassociate himself with himself, then throw himself under a bus. Heh.

re: #50 joecitizen

if anyone is giving details,I'd love to know.

Kept pushing for personal answers re. the existence of a supreme being from the Lizard King. Simply wouldn't give it a rest. At least that was the final.

re: #48 really grumpy big dog Johnson

No doubt.

BHO has a nice smile. but have you ever seen him look a bit angry? Ugly, ugly man. Creepy.

re: #50 joecitizen

Savage is having a serious personal crisis, and dealt with it by coming on here and threatening to shoot people. Charles warned him many times and banned him for a few short intervals, but he persisted with the death threats. So he's now permanently barred.

S&DM, I don't know.

It all makes sense now.
Obama raises so much internet money through all the John Connors he sent back in time to donate to him:)

I'm out guys, have a good night.

re: #25 freedomplow

Better and a bit more entertaining.

re: #30 BlueCanuck

I agree. There needs to be a bumbling bus rolling over the victims of his "cut'em loose" policy to not intimate his real biases, ie, race "typical white G-Ma", creed " belligerent gun holding Christians", and nationality " 57 states".

Hasta la vista, baby.

This is why I can't stand Demonrats!

They completely twist every single position held by conservatives. I was starting to think that Democrats had some brains, what with all the conservative Democrats getting elected lately. But after seeing this clip, I know I still can't trust them.

Bollynator!

re: #38 joecitizen

sorry ot..seems I haven't seen any posts lately by savage nation or songanddanceman...anybody know anything or are they just off on some unimaginable tryst together?

Savage was banned.
He made some very violent threats.....some things about shooting his daughter's boyfriend and also himself. Charles said Savage had received many warnings and had even been banned before, so this decision is final.

re: #54 guzziguy

OIC. The religious arguments here can get ugly, can't they? And the Believers and the Disbelievers can often be equally obnoxious, it seems.

re: #20 6pat6

I'd imagine the same restrictions for running for POTUS also apply to VPOTUS. My guess is...thankfully, no.

I would hope not, but I think consitituionally, that there was some suggestion that he could serve as VP, but if the Prez were ever incapacitated, that the succession would have to skip him...

re: #56 dammad

BHO has a nice smile. but have you ever seen him look a bit angry? Ugly, ugly man. Creepy.

I don't think he's all that much under the best of circumstances. This swooning garbage is spurred my the media. McCain comes across as more masculine, Hussein as some sort of metrosexual pilates guy with a bottle of Estee Lauder moisturizer.

heh.

re: #63 DesertSage
WTF?
LOL

re: #57 mikalm

Savage is having a serious personal crisis, and dealt with it by coming on here and threatening to shoot people. Charles warned him many times and banned him for a few short intervals, but he persisted with the death threats. So he's now permanently barred.

S&DM, I don't know.

wow,I know sav had threatened the kid (jobass?) but missed him going overboard...S&DMan could be a little strident in his faith at times and we tangled over it,but I thought that was par for the course for some Lizards and all in all thought they were both decent enough chaps...

Obama - the final 5th cylon.

It fits.

re: #37 mikalm
hhheeeee's not Barry. We know Barry. Barry is a HERO of ours and heeee's no hero!

He's BARRY

re: #63 DesertSage

I think I just lost my appetitte. Also a lot of those points seem to be what the democraps seem to do anyway.

/sound a lot like our liberal party up here.

re: #67 brainwizard73

I would hope not, but I think consitituionally, that there was some suggestion that he could serve as VP, but if the Prez were ever incapacitated, that the succession would have to skip him...

no,since the primary function of a veep is to succeed..

re: #47 mikalm

I heard about Savage's meltdown, but what did S&DM do?

S&DM was getting a little too personal when he was asking Charles to answer a question.
I don't think Charles wanted to ban him, but it just got to be too much.

I really believe that there could be a reinstatement of his account at some point. At least I'm hoping.

re: #74 BlueCanuck

I think I just lost my appetitte. Also a lot of those points seem to be what the democraps seem to do anyway.

/sound a lot like our liberal party up here.

We all know which side of the aisle is your comfort zone.

re: #66 mikalm

OIC. The religious arguments here can get ugly, can't they? And the Believers and the Disbelievers can often be equally obnoxious, it seems.

Yes. Charles has made it completely clear he's no believer in ID. S&DM is. What Charles believes regarding articles of faith have no bearing on what he does here. S&DM kept pushing over and over again. I don't agree with Charles all the time, but I understand that it's his site and we are allowed here so long as we behave by his rather open rules.
In my opinion one has to do something pretty silly to get banned.

re: #75 joecitizen

no,since the primary function of a veep is to succeed..

Until I review the U.S. Code and the annotated Constitution, I will withhold judgment. I think the VP has more "duties" than just being next in line...and I don't think the constitution proscribes a native born requirement for the VP...although I didn't read every word of Article II.

Just don't bet that if the Dems want Arnold, there were be a way to make it happen...

No-brained liberal paired with steroid-brained liberal RINO...yikes.

It's been almost 70 minutes now, and the area to the south of me is still totally blacked out.

I hope this doesn't impact their mushroom production.

Oh criminy, here we go.

re: #76 DesertSage
I liked S&DM a lot so I hope that is possible but he was pushing Charles and that's not right.

re: #78 guzziguy

Death threats are more than silly, they are actionable and get someone hospitalized with the intended victims given official warning.
I more than understand Charles' desire to keep that stuff off the site. If it were me, I'd have called the police department.

re: #83 SpartanWoman

Sure. I was referring to S&DM not Savage. One was criminal, the other very annoying.

re: #79 brainwizard73

Until I review the U.S. Code and the annotated Constitution, I will withhold judgment. I think the VP has more "duties" than just being next in line...and I don't think the constitution proscribes a native born requirement for the VP...although I didn't read every word of Article II.

Just don't bet that if the Dems want Arnold, there were be a way to make it happen...

No-brained liberal paired with steroid-brained liberal RINO...yikes.

that and being president of the senate to cast tie breaking votes is it for the veep..anything else is at the pleasure of the president..

re: #83 SpartanWoman

Death threats are more than silly, they are actionable and get someone hospitalized with the intended victims given official warning.
I more than understand Charles' desire to keep that stuff off the site. If it were me, I'd have called the police department.

I think that at the particular point of banishment that Charles out of a civic sense of duty would have surely done exactly that.

re: #84 guzziguy

I understand that. The religious guy probably just pushed too hard, but my point is that I have never noticed people being banned for silly matters. People get away with all sorts of stuff that crosses over the silliness line every day. You have to be outrageous and have violated more than ample warnings

re: #78 guzziguy

Yup. I just had a disagreement with The Big Lizard over on the White-Racists-for-Obama thread, but it's just about the nature and significance of the source info, nothing more. Really, so long as we stay focused on essentials, agree to disagree on minor points, and don't try to pursue personal religious agendas, I think we'll all be fine.

(Oh -- and not issue death threats or exterminationist rhetoric, yes!)

re: #82 Pvt Bin Jammin

I liked S&DM a lot so I hope that is possible but he was pushing Charles and that's not right.

I don't think the split between Charles and S&DM is irreparable. I do think that S&DM needs time to think things over though.

Savage OTOH pushed way too far, way too often.

You know, I really think this will catch up with Obama. You can't keep sweeping this kind o' stuff under the rug and get away with it - not with all of the alternative avenues of information available these days. And his less-than-24-hour flip-flop on Jerusalem will bite him in the arse, that's for sure. It's not easy pissing off both the Israelis and the Muslims in one 24-hour period over one issue.

Just shows to go ya - he can't keep up the illusion over the long run. After all, he only REALLY began to unravel as the possible candidates began to dwindle and more individual attention was paid to him. What do you think is going to happen when it comes down to the party v. party battle royale?

the sinner,

Charles

re: #86 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I agree.

re: #87 SpartanWoman

I'm on here a lot less than many other Lizards, and I was disturbed by Savage's violent rantings. In aggregate, it probably constituted more than enough justification for banning, especially after repeated warnings.

re: #87 SpartanWoman

If there were a silliness line that, once crossed, got a Lizard banned, I would have been booted before I made it to comment #10.

Bollynator 2!

re: #90 Charles the Hammer

Maybe that will be the case. We will know for sure when the media start finally asking questions of the Obamessiah. When they do that it will only be because they know the people have caught on and that they must go along with the majority to preserve and dignity or credibility.

re: #87 SpartanWoman

I can go with your assessment. But, I've seen trolls banned after a very few posts. Those I'd classify as silly, stupid, annoying (pick your favorite adjective). I too hated to see S&DM go, but I could clearly see the line he crossed.

All that being said, I certainly agree that anyone who has any value as a participant here, or is a genuine seeker of information is not banned without cause. I didn't intend to infer that they were.

We have the Chi-Coms hacking computers in Washington and Obama's attention is on the fact that one of his bobos is shady.

Sounds like a Democrat president (soon to be president) being distracted from real national security threats by a domestic political issue. Where have I heard that before?

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

I may not agree with your silliness, but I will suffer slight discomfort to allow you to say it.

savage_nation will not be allowed back to LGF. I should have banned him a LONG time ago, but listened to people who told me they liked him, and he was a good person, etc. He was not a good person, he was a manipulator, and his days of manipulating me are over.

S&DM really crossed a personal line with me, and it's very unlikely that he'll be back.

What is the over/under on when one of those "tossed under the bus people" really goes "state's evidence" and calls down the thunder on ol' Barry?

I think Vegas is setting it at September 15th.

Anyone out there think this could happen?

Hey Disassociator!

"Fuck you asshole!"

/Ah-nold!

re: #89 DesertSage
I don't think the split between Charles and S&DM is irreparable. I do think that S&DM needs time to think things over though.

I agree. I hope something might be worked out between them.

I feel for Savage and backed him all the way the first time but he really did go too far. I wish him all good things, however. He is going through a lot and I hope it all works out for the best.

re: #94 SpartanWoman

I don't think we have to even wait that long. For example, the whole Jerusalem thing happened without the media asking anything. Even with the MSM in his back pocket, he's messing up all over the place. His sub-moronic (thank you great "progressive" jurist Oliver Wendell Holmes) choices of friends and mentors happened when he was working in absolute obscurity in Illinois. That is how bad this guy is. Without a teleprompter, as many, faster, observers have noted, he's an horrific speaker. This - will get oogly.

the sinner,

Charles

re: #63 DesertSage

This is why I can't stand Demonrats!

They completely twist every single position held by conservatives. I was starting to think that Democrats had some brains, what with all the conservative Democrats getting elected lately. But after seeing this clip, I know I still can't trust them.

Oh brother... what a load of ignorant, fear-mongering crap. The video, that is.

Someone should do an "I'm voting democrat" vid, only with factual, verifiable zings.

-"I'm voting democrat because I want to support a party that fought in favor of slavery. A party that fought to keep segregation and Jim Crow laws on the books".

re: #98 buzzsawmonkey

They might simply start asking him questions because they have the attention span of mayflies and will get bored with their adulation after a while--so they will try attack mode as a novelty.

And, if Obama knifes one of their own--which is probable, since it seems to be a reflex on his part--they will turn on him like rabid dogs.

Hope!

Change!

re: #103 Pvt Bin Jammin

I don't think the split between Charles and S&DM is irreparable. I do think that S&DM needs time to think things over though.

I agree. I hope something might be worked out between them.

I feel for Savage and backed him all the way the first time but he really did go too far. I wish him all good things, however. He is going through a lot and I hope it all works out for the best.

We all, sooner or later, go through "a lot". But when certain words are said and certain actions are threatened, nice guys need to head the other way.

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

I'd really like to not talk about it, but unfortunately people keep asking.

Re Savage: I felt for him as well. G-d knows I might act the same way if I went through what he said he did. But I sure as hell wouldn't inflict my pain on a public forum in the form of ostensibly-credible death- and suicide-threats...especially if I was repeatedly warned not to do so by the admin.

He must be a very lonely person, and not have anyone to discuss his frustrations with other than Internet pals. I hope he gets help.

re: #102 Macker

Beat you to it by this [] much...

I have seen over the years the leniency Charles gives lizards that go off the tracks. I have never seen a lizard banned that did not push to get banned. (lizard being someone with a history of reasoned posts)

re: #109 Charles
I'm sorry to have talked about it. Were I in your shoes I would have done the same.

re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth

OK try this one.

re: #101 brainwizard73

hhheeeee's not Barry........Re:
hhre: #73 asu86pe

re: #109 Charles

I'd really like to not talk about it, but unfortunately people keep asking.

sorry Charles..I sure hope that,in this instance, curiosity doesn't kill the citizen..heh

re: #104 Charles the Hammer

the sinner,

Charles

Charles, are you an Orthodox Christian? They're the only people I've ever met who sign out that way.

(If I was honest with myself and G-d, I'd sign out, "The weak, self-indulgent, hypocritical sinner, MikalM.")

Senator Obama tries out for Footy Umpire....

Thanks zombie!

re: #117 joecitizen

Sorry here, too. As I said, I'm only on here in fits and spurts, and missed out on most of the action with those two regulars.

re: #118 mikalm

Charles, are you an Orthodox Christian? They're the only people I've ever met who sign out that way.

(If I was honest with myself and G-d, I'd sign out, "The weak, self-indulgent, hypocritical sinner, MikalM.")

don't be so hard on yourself..if there is a god,surely he/she/it has a sense of humor,no?

The Spy certainly is handy for watching people go through and rate posts. At least one creationist is getting busy tonight.

re: #119 Macker

Senator Obama tries out for Footy Umpire....

Thanks zombie!

LOL !
A whole super-hero comic book......The Lightworker.....would be nifty, wouldn't it?

re: #115 Macker

Ha ha ha! I've actually never seen that film, but that scene was funny.

re: #122 Charles

The Spy certainly is handy for watching people go through and rate posts. At least one creationist is getting busy tonight.

imagine the havoc if they could ding multiple times..some people would never get any sleep...

re: #118 mikalm

Yes, I am. Though, I got my back piece before I found Orthodox (and a wife, though I met the wife first and, through her, was introduced to Orthodoxy). It is a fictional representation of Charles Martel charging the field and lancing a Moor at the Battle of Tours (really, Poitiers) October 25, 732. So, I usually go by Charles Martel or Charles the Hammer if there is already a Charles Martel. Given my druthers, I'd go back and get an Iconostasis on my back and wrapping around to my chest.

Ok, TMI. Sorry, I'm tired! How 'bout them Celtics?

the sinner,

Charles

re: #121 joecitizen

don't be so hard on yourself..if there is a god,surely he/she/it has a sense of humor,no?

A sense of mercy is what I need most.

When I look for G-d's sense of humor, I see it in things like the platypus.

re: #123 wolfie

Ha! Great idea! "From the obscure wastelands of Illinois comes a Lightworker, chosen by fate, destined to lead the people into a land of hope and change! His name, to the mere mortals is . . . BARAK OBAMA! (No, we don't talk about his middle name. Or his ears, or his wife's election support speeches, or his pastor, or . . ."

the sinner,

Charles

re: #122 Charles

How can you tell that? When I look at the LGF Spy there is a check box for ratings, but I am not seeing dings. Am I missing something? Obviously, I must be.

This is not the Obama I know.

re: #127 mikalm Or democrats

Good night all.

re: #125 joecitizen

imagine the havoc if they could ding multiple times..some people would never get any sleep...

That would actually be a cool sneaky feature. Allow people to ding multiple times but the dinger is the only one that sees the extra ding. Kind of like the SF chronicle used to delete posts; however, the poster still saw them, but in reverse. It would eat up a lot of the mad dinger's time to no effect and tell Charles who the real nuts are.

re: #104 Charles the Hammer

I'll add that the real Ted Knight who played Ted Baxter was a better person than the presumptive candidate for the democrats.

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re: #126 Charles the Hammer

Wow! Sounds like quite a tattoo.

If you wanted an Orthodox one on your remaining unmarked skin, the Christ Pantocrator icon would be a good choice.

re: #121 joecitizen

Honestly, and Orthodox can on for pages about humor and true joy! Still, we do tend to be, by Western standards, a sober lot (though I was non-denom Proddy for 31+ years, and am only 3 years as an Orthodox). But, the reading of the Fathers can do that to you. You experience a lot of joy, but not so much "humor" as we usually understand it. Except for those weak, like me, who still engage too much in the world.

the sinner,

Charles

OT:

I decided to check an email account I haven't looked at for about 3 months.

It looks like it might take about 2+ hours to finish downloading. I think almost all of it is spam.

I have observed enough bannings to see a few trends.

...Egregious ignoring of the "IronFist Rule".

...Repeated bashing of an innocent poster.

...Obvious trolling or mobying.

...The intentional breaking of posted rules, usually repeated after warnings.

The most recent ones seem to be "Suicide by Charles" types.
I wonder what brings that on?

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh brother... what a load of ignorant, fear-mongering crap. The video, that is.

Someone should do an "I'm voting democrat" vid, only with factual, verifiable zings.

-"I'm voting democrat because I want to support a party that fought in favor of slavery. A party that fought to keep segregation and Jim Crow laws on the books".

I hope the RNC does come up with a video like that, and shove it in the Democrats face. They're no dummies over there at the RNC, they have some pretty talented people. Rove can be their consultant.

re: #128 Charles the Hammer

LOL !
I wish that I had Soros's money!
Think of all the things I could do!
(Like hire lizards like you to make comic books!)

re: #138 lummox

"Suicide by Charles"

LOL!

re: #134 asu86pe

Prefer Mr. Knight as Judge Smails.

the sinner,

Charles

re: #138 lummox

Hubris

Instead of constantly talking about not pissing off Charles, why don't you just not piss him off.

re: #133 Neo Con since 9-11

Bwahahahahhhhaaa!

re: #135 mikalm

Actually, I have the chi-rho (with the alpha and omega) on each shin, and am getting an Orthodox icon of my patron saint, Saint Patrick Apostle of Ireland, on my left calf, and St. Maximos the Confessor on my right calf (BIG fan of his work, especially those collected in the Philokalia, volume II).

the sinner,

Charles

So is that Ron Jeremy above left?

re: #140 wolfie

Yeah! Or we could give money to disgruntled ex-employees of political rivals to get them to make stuff up - oh, wait, been done.

the sinner,

Charles

re: #136 Charles the Hammer

Honestly, and Orthodox can on for pages about humor and true joy! Still, we do tend to be, by Western standards, a sober lot (though I was non-denom Proddy for 31+ years, and am only 3 years as an Orthodox). But, the reading of the Fathers can do that to you. You experience a lot of joy, but not so much "humor" as we usually understand it. Except for those weak, like me, who still engage too much in the world.

the sinner,

Charles

oh man..engaging in the world is anything BUT weak...I will never believe that the denial or denigration of humanness will please anyones righteous god..the world is the gift that it is..to see it any other way is surely a waste of time and an affront to god..I'm just sayin'

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views."

~ William F. Buckley Jr.

re: #146 Charles the Hammer

Too cool! I suppose there isn't enough room to spell out The Breastplate of St. Patrick in uncial lettering?

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

Never mind, I am now seeing the way LGF Spy displays dinging. I would have seen that if I had spent more that just a few seconds looking at it before asking that question.

re: #151 mikalm

Too cool! I suppose there isn't enough room to spell out The Breastplate of St. Patrick in uncial lettering?

I love that prayer..

re: #149 joecitizen

I think the phrase, "Be in the world, but not of it," applies here. Not that I'm any kind of example, you understand...

Looks like bedtime. Take care, Lizards!

re: #154 mikalm

I think the phrase, "Be in the world, but not of it," applies here. Not that I'm any kind of example, you understand...

well,we are in the world..and then at some point we will not be of it..

re: #149 joecitizen

Well, the Orthodox have a vastly different concept of what is human. That is, according to true nature, not fallen nature. The Fathers say that what we call, today, "natural" is actually not natural. I mean, that not our nature as created by God but the fallen, twisted nature. For the Orthodox, much of what we call "natural" as far as feelings or "instincts" goes is not, in fact, what we were intended to be. This, however, has much to do with the radically different perspective on the salvific economy of Christ's Incarnation and the idea of theosis, etc. Of course, there are entire tomes on this from the Fathers that are, obviously, much truer and clearer than anything I could ever write.

the sinner,

Charles

re: #155 mikalm

Looks like bedtime. Take care, Lizards!

g'night!

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh brother... what a load of ignorant, fear-mongering crap. The video, that is.

Someone should do an "I'm voting democrat" vid, only with factual, verifiable zings.

-"I'm voting democrat because I want to support a party that fought in favor of slavery. A party that fought to keep segregation and Jim Crow laws on the books".

Here is their brilliant production crew.

Anybody notice their logo showing an unborn-fetus-looking figure with a wind-up key in its back?

re: #144 Salem

Instead of constantly talking about not pissing off Charles, why don't you just not piss him off.

Excellent! Very well put!

/Why didn't I think of it first?

It is way worse than that photo reveals. I watched 2 min of a Obamamation spokesperson explain the Johnson fiasco on H&C It was an attack on everyone. I mean everyone that would question Obama. A smiling, frankly, disconcerting attitude of arrogance that implied that nonbelievers would be punished.

re: #157 Charles the Hammer

Well, the Orthodox have a vastly different concept of what is human. That is, according to true nature, not fallen nature. The Fathers say that what we call, today, "natural" is actually not natural. I mean, that not our nature as created by God but the fallen, twisted nature. For the Orthodox, much of what we call "natural" as far as feelings or "instincts" goes is not, in fact, what we were intended to be. This, however, has much to do with the radically different perspective on the salvific economy of Christ's Incarnation and the idea of theosis, etc. Of course, there are entire tomes on this from the Fathers that are, obviously, much truer and clearer than anything I could ever write.

the sinner,

Charles

or we COULD just dance!

re: #154 mikalm

I think the phrase, "Be in the world, but not of it," applies here. Not that I'm any kind of example, you understand...

Yeah, that is probably very true, sir. As far as the Breastplate, that would be a great idea. I was thinking of maybe getting the Jesus Prayer ("Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on me, the sinner"), just gotta figure out where I can't keep it hidden under a (at minimum) a polo shirt.

the sinner,

Charles

re: #109 Charles

Your house.

Your choice!

Period.

re: #162 joecitizen

"I was alone,
I never knew,
what good love could do . . ."

Sorry, the Ted Knight comment put "Caddyshack" on the brain.

the sinner,

Charles

re: #99 Charles

Savage also manipulated a lot of good, caring lizards with his continuing stories, many or most of which were totally the opposite of what he had said earlier..I honestly think that he was after attention, and question the veracity of a lot of what he said. He just could not keep his stories straight.

His remarks re females were so OTT, and the violence he espoused? Thank you, Charles, for banning him.

re: #160 NY Nana

Excellent! Very well put!

/Why didn't I think of it first?

It's not like he's Ivan the frikking Terrible sending people to the gulag, right? ;)

Seems like Obama finally got tired of searching his blog for crazies to delete and just got rid of the "search" button to make it harder for the rest of us to find them.

re: #149 joecitizen

OK, as I see it, the gift of this world is empty without meaning - a fulness that is achieved through faith - that tells you what life-complete must look like because with freedoms come responsibilities.

re: #168 Neo Con since 9-11

Like that will hide anything.

Security as an afterthought implemented by amateurs.

Well over two hours now, and the people to the south of me are still completely without power, across a vast swath. They must feel like they are in the twilight zone. As the moon sets, it might get so dark that they can't see their hands in front of their faces.

Oh well. Saw an energy company truck drive by. He looked like he didn't have a clue where to start.

Ahmadinejad Says Bush Administration Can't Hurt Iran

June 11 (Bloomberg) -- George W. Bush's administration is in its dying days and won't be able to harm Iran, the Islamic Republic's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said.

www.bloomberg.com

Sorry for above OT without announcing. /my bad

re: #164 LeePro
Amen.

re: #172 sngnsgt

Ahmadinejad Says Bush Administration Can't Hurt Iran

www.bloomberg.com

Heh - let them think that as much as they want. This president isn't a wimp, and he won't back down if the hammer of doom is called for.

He'll drop it, and with a vengeance.

re: #169 asu86pe

OK, as I see it, the gift of this world is empty without meaning - a fulness that is achieved through faith - that tells you what life-complete must look like because with freedoms come responsibilities.

that's cool..I just don't find a lack of meaning AT ALL without faith..

re: #167 Salem

It's not like he's Ivan the frikking Terrible sending people to the gulag, right? ;)

Precisely. No one has been sent anywhere by having their accounts blocked. They are simply former house guests that have been told that they are no longer welcome to come in, eat up all the food, drink up all the beer, and then piss all over the host's furniture.

Has Obama found his birth certificate yet?

I'm going to sleep. When I get up in the morning, I expect to see his birth certificate posted....somewhere.

re: #167 Salem

It's not like he's Ivan the frikking Terrible sending people to the gulag, right? ;)

Not quite, but with the heat wave we went through here for 4 days? The frigid weather sounds good! ;)

re: #178 DesertSage
Weet dreams, Sage.

I can hear it now " That is not the me I knew".

re: #178 DesertSage

Has Obama found his birth certificate yet?

I'm going to sleep. When I get up in the morning, I expect to see his birth certificate posted....somewhere.

Sweet dreams, Sage!

/I wonder if his birth certificate is in English.

Oh, I just got a message from savage (via carrier pigeon), it seems that he's stuck in some gulag somewhere in Siberia.

g'nite PBJ
g'nite everyone.

'nite Nana

♥

re: #183 DesertSage
LOL

re: #183 DesertSage

ROTFL!

♥ ♥ Sage!

re: #160 NY Nana

Excellent! Very well put!

/Why didn't I think of it first?

You blinked, maybe?

{ { {Nana} } }

re: #169 asu86pe

OK, as I see it, the gift of this world is empty without meaning - a fulness that is achieved through faith - that tells you what life-complete must look like because with freedoms come responsibilities.

and, as i see it, from a religious point of view, we were all put here to suffer and die needlessly......

i have no problem with rights & responsibilities, but you're gonna have to w*rk to convince me about the rest.

re: #184 DesertSage

Hey, you type faster than I do! So do my little granddaughters, actually.

Getting pretty crowded under Barry's bus.......

re: #178 DesertSage

Has Obama found his birth certificate yet?

I'm going to sleep. When I get up in the morning, I expect to see his birth certificate posted....somewhere.

Hey! That is top secret! Actually I think it is a red herring. The media has implied that there are several Obama false focal points. O'Reilly chewed on one today like an idiot. GOP intends to smear Michelle. Now that story came from the Obama people. O'Reilly is a complete fool. But this is working. I believe his BC will be no different than my own. But he wants to draw the story. O'Reilly helped immunize Michelle, and she is likely less weird than we think, but this allows her free reign. Morning Shows. Forever. This Obama campaign is far more sophisticated than most think, in spite of the early net BS when he needed everyone. We are just clearing the field for him.

re: #176 joecitizen

Huh? I think I understand but it's late. Do you mean - with faith (in something) there's meaning? Or, with faith (unreturned) there's a lack of meaning?

I keep telling y'all, the only controversy that will be revealed by BHO's birth certificate is fact that his mother, still bitter and angry about being given a boy's name, took it out on her son and gave him a girl's name...
//

re: #187 LeePro

You blinked, maybe?

I just knew there was an expanation. Thanks, Lee!

{Lee}

re: #192 asu86pe

Huh? I think I understand but it's late. Do you mean - with faith (in something) there's meaning? Or, with faith (unreturned) there's a lack of meaning?

I see deep meaning in life and the world all around me all the time WITHOUT FAITH in any god..

re: #195 buzzsawmonkey

HBO costs extra.

BHO will cost extra too.

DING! DING! DING! DING!

...and probably with just as much useless content!

re: #191 pat

Not so sure about that. I don't know about Barak, but I think that Michelle is a true believer (in the black liberation philosophy stuff). From her college thesis paper, to her speeches, to 20 years in that "church" - I really think her actions and statements have been consistent. I don't think you can hide that very long (and they haven't been able to so far).

I also don't think that these are isolated incidents - instead, I think they are indicative of deeper levels of faultiness as a candidate.

the sinner,

Charles

Well, Lizards, I am out. Not much sleep last night so I've pretty much had it.

Take care, one and all.

re: #188 redc1c4
Fair enough. Needless goals lead to needless life.

If the passengers on Flight 93 thought that way they would have helped steer the 747 to it's next intended target.

But the call instead was "Let's Roll" and it became our battle cry against Islamo-nazi terrorists.

Which way do you decide? Where they needlessly murdered or do you place their final words in your memory to stand against terrorism? Fair enough?

CORRECTION:

with *much* more useless content.

Under the Bus

G'night ya'll. I'm heading off to read - about the evils of racism, the power of loyalty, the necessity of staying true to the good and the right, no matter how difficult.

Harry Potter rules!

re: #198 Charles the Hammer

I agree, but I am not willing to dislike this woman over enthusiastic campaign talk. She worked with real people everyday. But that is another issue. The stealth man is the ignoramus, Obama.

re: #197 LeePro

Oh, that's *good*! Hehehehehe . . .

the sinner,

Charles

re: #200 asu86pe

Fair enough. Needless goals lead to needless life.

If the passengers on Flight 93 thought that way they would have helped steer the 747 to it's next intended target.

But the call instead was "Let's Roll" and it became our battle cry against Islamo-nazi terrorists.

Which way do you decide? Where they needlessly murdered or do you place their final words in your memory to stand against terrorism? Fair enough?

huh?

Now that I think about it, I'm pissed off that an American flag lapel pin wasn't good enough to be anywhere near Obama but he had no qualms about hanging with someone as calculating, vindictive, manipulative and hateful as Rev. Wright for 20+ years....

re: #199 Pvt Bin Jammin

Weet dreams, {PBJ}!

re: #194 NY Nana

I meant {Lee}!

G'night, all. I have to keel my computer. It is giving me fits!

Bad computer, bad, bad computer!

re: #204 pat

I don't dislike her, I love her as I am supposed to love all men (gender neutral definition). But the views she espouses are deleterious to us as individuals and as members of this nation. This danger will be all the more obvious, and amplified, if she becomes the First Lady. Though I may not hate her, I will oppose her and her beliefs (especially black liberation philosophy).

the sinner,

Charles

re: #209 NY Nana

Aloha!

re: #196 joecitizen
You presupposed that this was about God before it was about the life of Jesus, our Savior. Too many carts before your horse.

If Jesus, our Savior, does not live to you then, God is dead to you. The solution to this mystery is the path Jesus, our Savior, prescribed.

re: #201 redc1c4

CORRECTION:

with *much* more useless content.

Original attributed to #197 LeePro

re: #202 slokat

Under the Bus

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! !

re: #200 asu86pe

Fair enough. Needless goals lead to needless life.

If the passengers on Flight 93 thought that way they would have helped steer the 747 to it's next intended target.

But the call instead was "Let's Roll" and it became our battle cry against Islamo-nazi terrorists.

Which way do you decide? Where they needlessly murdered or do you place their final words in your memory to stand against terrorism? Fair enough?

you either miss, or chose to ignore my point, but since i don't wish to precipitate (yet another) religious war here, i'll pass.

i'd like to think that i would have joined/led/incited/participated in/etc in their acts, had i been there. but i wasn't. neither were you, so you're hardly in a position to judge anyone.

did you have a point?

PS: it wasn't a 747

re: #202 slokat You Win!

re: #212 asu86pe

You presupposed that this was about God before it was about the life of Jesus, our Savior. Too many carts before your horse.

If Jesus, our Savior, does not live to you then, God is dead to you. The solution to this mystery is the path Jesus, our Savior, prescribed.

your faith is your opinion,and only that..there is no mystery to me in a righteous life,well lived...

re: #217 joecitizen

C'mon, you know as well as anyone: only Obama can define the righteous life. He WILL make you work! He WILL heal the planet! Can you see the messiah right before you?

the sinner,

Charles

re: #218 Charles the Hammer

C'mon, you know as well as anyone: only Obama can define the righteous life. He WILL make you work! He WILL heal the planet! Can you see the messiah right before you?

the sinner,

Charles

heh.

re: #217 joecitizen

your faith is your opinion,and only that..there is no mystery to me in a righteous life,well lived...

amen.....

(unless you're obnoxious about it. %-)

re: #215 redc1c4
You want a "religious" conflict when the larger point was your "die needlessly" living life.

Choose a less confusing point to make next time for clarity.

he still has a lot to cut out...like a cancer.

Maybe it's time for a new poster to photoshop? Obamessiah?

re: #221 asu86pe

You want a "religious" conflict when the larger point was your "die needlessly" living life.

Choose a less confusing point to make next time for clarity.

you might start with being coherent, prior to challenging other posters....

/have a drink: it's late & you're confused. it'll help.

re: #223 slokat

Maybe it's time for a new poster to photoshop? Obamessiah?

1st caption:
BAD Dream

or...
NIGHTMARE!

whilst we're sorting out the ash & trash, i'll post a bottle or two to the bar, and call out the ritual

"CHANGE!"

/honor program

re: #223 slokat

Maybe it's time for a new poster to photoshop? Obamessiah?

"Chump Change!"

re: #226 redc1c4

CHANGE!

DRINK!
/heavily

re: #226 redc1c4

whilst we're sorting out the ash & trash, i'll post a bottle or two to the bar, and call out the ritual

"CHANGE!"

/honor program

DRINK.

/back to you

//damn you pulled me out of lurk mode.

re: #218 Charles the Hammer
Touche'.
re: #224 redc1c4
It's been fun but you challenged me. Re:
re: #188 redc1c4

Typical. Later dudes.

re: #229 BlueCanuck

DRINK.

/back to you

//damn you pulled me out of lurk mode.

A necessary intervention!

Hi, {Blue}!

re: #231 LeePro

Morning {LeePro}. Been busy studying, sorta. :p

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

CHANGE!

DRINK!
/heavily

LOL! Excellent!

re: #223 slokat

Maybe it's time for a new poster to photoshop? Obamessiah?

Apparently the make your own Obama Poster wiget was done with System.Drawing Namespace.

I have no idea how this stuff works.

Maybe there is a Lizard out there who can understand this stuff and create a new poster toy for us to play with.

re: #232 BlueCanuck

Morning {LeePro}. Been busy studying, sorta. :p

"studying, sorta" sounds kinda fishy...
You're just looking at the pictures, aren'tcha?

re: #211 pat

Aloha,Pat...we are up way too late..after 3 AM...I was restrained from keeeeling my computer....off to sleep!

Talk to you later!

Make sure Leepro behaves! ;)

re: #235 LeePro

Pictures? More like graphs and stuff.

/skimming then doing short assesment tests.
//big exam next week.

This is a minor, yet actually serious question; who is responsible for verifying the eligibility of a candidate?

We all know the constitutional requirements for Presidency, but who enforces it, or verifies that a candidate is meets them?

re: #236 NY Nana

Aloha,Pat...we are up way too late..after 3 AM...I was restrained from keeeeling my computer....off to sleep!

Talk to you later!

Make sure Leepro behaves! ;)

Nana! ! !
I always behave! ! !

_{...except when some creep blindsides me for praising him!}

re: #238 slokat

pimf: let a stray is into my sentence...

re: #238 slokat

This is a minor, yet actually serious question; who is responsible for verifying the eligibility of a candidate?

We all know the constitutional requirements for Presidency, but who enforces it, or verifies that a candidate is meets them?

Good questions. I don't think this has come up before. Until now most candidates have been clearly, with out a shadow of a doubt, natural born American citizens. Also it may go on the honour system for candidacy. If it's on the pure honour system it might be ripe for exploitation.

g'night sweet Lizards..may all yer dreams be scaley...

re: #237 BlueCanuck

Pictures? More like graphs and stuff.

/skimming then doing short assesment tests.
//big exam next week.

Oops! Forgot this: ^_/joke

Whatcha studying? Is this for college work?

I went back in my calmer mature years! Grad 1998!

re: #239 LeePro

Nana! ! !
I always behave! ! !

_{...except when some creep blindsides me for praising him!}

Don't worry, I think HWSNBN is offline at the moment. :)

/he side swiped me earlier.

re: #243 LeePro

Mutual Funds course. Part of my plan to get off the night shift.

/big bucks in the financial services industry.

There is no God but Government, and Obamessiah is its Prophet.

Governmenthu Akhbar!

Now give me your wallet.

re: #127 mikalm

A sense of mercy is what I need most.

When I look for G-d's sense of humor, I see it in things like the platypus.

And a kitten chasing its' tail...

...and that we laugh.

It's Obama Scissorhands.

Well, this is news to me: Apparently a movie adaptation of the video game Max Payne is in the works.

I liked both games quite a bit, masterpieces brought to us by the company that every sycophantic Jack Thompson fan-boy loves to hate: Rockstar.

I am very interested to see if the film holds true to the film noir, cop drama style of the games.

re: #234 Syrah

Apparently the make your own Obama Poster wiget was done with System.Drawing Namespace.

I have no idea how this stuff works.

Maybe there is a Lizard out there who can understand this stuff and create a new poster toy for us to play with.

It won't let me enter bad words.

"Suckers" worked
"Hype" worked

Then I tried "B-tches Ain't Sh-t" and it just replaced my phrase with "PROGRESS".

re: #244 BlueCanuck

Don't worry, I think HWSNBN is offline at the moment. :)

/he side swiped me earlier.

Linky to episode?

Can't figure out "HWSNBN"... Nic's blue if you don't want to say here.

re: #245 BlueCanuck

Mutual Funds course. Part of my plan to get off the night shift.

/big bucks in the financial services industry.

Why stop at mutual funds? What can you tell me about Canadian Royalty Trusts?

re: #195 buzzsawmonkey

HBO costs extra.

BHO will cost extra too.

You are our resident genius of the word!

Lifting glass in your honor!

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

CHANGE!

DRINK!
/heavily

i do.... it makes people interesting and life tolerable.... sort of.

/and the reality kicks in again.......

re: #251 LeePro

The post under this is where.

/nuff said.

re: #77 really grumpy big dog Johnson

re: #252 Fenway_Nation

Sorry, can't talk about stuff like that. I do have my life insurance liscence already so I am looking for my second barrel to do stuff with.

re: #100 asu86pe

[Link: www.youtube.com...]
He's never going to be POTUS; speaking without a prompter makes him Ted Baxter on the Mary Tyler Moore Show...... tanned and shallow
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

LOL, what a tool. Did anyone understand his rationale for firing Johnson? It's gobblygook. I'm genuinely astonished at how his speaking skills have deteriorated in these 5 months.

BTW, a feminazi went ballistic in the comments section on that 1st Youtube:

mailman is an archaic, sexist term that presupposes that a person who carries/delivers the post must be of the male gender. In fact many females also work in, and at, postal services including mail delivery. Stop using sexist termonolgy. By the way BHO has a plan called "Hate Crime" legislation that might prosecute people who use sexist terms such as yourself.

This is the type of people he empowers.

/nutjobs.

/gobbledygook? My spelling skills fail me.
/says "postmen". Take away me in handcuffs now!

I took Barry's birthday, and did a little backtracking. About 9 months earlier there was rather close election - Nov 8, 1960.

Close states
1. Hawaii, 0.06%
2. Illinois, 0.19%

Perhaps it was woopie time. Between then and birth, Bay of Pigs happened. This might have affected a very leftist young mother-to-be, when later she filled out some paperwork that's now a big secret.

re: #18 anti-social(ism)

What does it say on the sunglasses?

I can't make it out. Might be something knowable from a movie spoof

re: #247 GGMac

And a kitten chasing its' tail...

...and that we laugh.

...and that He laughs! And laughs! And laughs! And then some!

re: #261 LeePro

...and that He laughs! And laughs! And laughs! And then some!

Yes, yes, yes! :)

re: #261 LeePro

...and that He laughs! And laughs! And laughs! And then some!

Good points. I think it's unfortunate that most people take religion far too seriously.

re: #250 Pawn of the Oppressor

pentdego.com, the Make Your Own Obama Poster author must have put in some filters. I don't understand how the System.Drawing Namespace. programing works. There might be other programing that could work to make a poster toy.

If you understand this stuff and can create a poster maker of your own, you can leave out the limitations

re: #255 BlueCanuck

/nuff said.

Agree, but sad state of affairs when we feel the decency to shush, while "they" carry on.

/jus' sayin'

re: #263 BlueCanuck

Good points. I think it's unfortunate that most people take religion far too seriously.

Yup. Somewhere in the Book of Psalms it says:

"Make a JOYFUL noise"