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1 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:09:58pm

Geeky!

2 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:10:09pm

?

3 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:10:11pm

Any trolls around?

4 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:10:42pm

From Levin....

Barack says....
He's not qualified.

5 yitzy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:10:58pm

Just picked up my Mets / Rangers tickets for this Sunday. Go METS!

6 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:16pm

Too bad; somebody wanted an echo earlier, and here it is.

7 GRUMP  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:25pm

20 goto 10...

8 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:25pm

re: #3 goddessoftheclassroom

Any trolls around?

A pathetic little Jew hater on the Door Open thread.
Whimper off.

9 somaking  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:26pm

Error: Abort, Retry, Cancel

10 Freddybear  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:50pm

Seethe at the trollophobia!

11 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:56pm

re: #5 yitzy

Just picked up my Mets / Rangers tickets for this Sunday. Go METS!

I hate the Mets.

12 Silhouette  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:11:58pm

OH NO!

Our favorite presidential candidate is dropping out.

AUSTIN, Texas - Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul will end his campaign Thursday night and announce a new effort to help elect libertarian-leaning Republicans to public office around the country.

In his honor, a poll:

What is your favorite flavor of ice cream?

1)Vanilla
2)Chocolate
3)Strawberry
4)RON PAUL!

13 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:12:00pm

FYI:McCain is holding a TownHall style speech in NYC now. Broadcast live on Fox cable.

14 yitzy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:12:26pm

...and, with the exception of the dollar sign, I even understand all the programming gobbledeegook. I am SUCH a nerd.

15 Da_Beerfreak  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:12:28pm

I killed a six-pack once on a Thursday afternoon.


Just to watch it die...

16 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:12:49pm

Charles, I have no idea what that means. LOL

17 uncle_monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:12:57pm

See if you folks like this concept for a New Obama Movie...

It was a slow afternoon!

18 Adrenalyn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:13:02pm

help me, help me
help me sail away

now give me two good reasons why I oughta stay

because I love to live so pleasantly
live this life of luxury
blazing on a sunny afternoon......

19 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:13:06pm

McCain talking about the economy. It's not his strongest area.

20 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:14:33pm

The troll in the registration thread, by the way, is posting from Fairfax, Virginia, home of the Islamic Saudi Academy that's in the news today for their radical Islamic indoctrination.

21 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:14:33pm

"Islamic extremism"
/drink

22 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:14:53pm

Radical Islamic Extremism. McCain is not afraid to say those words. Way to go.

23 yitzy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:15:12pm

re: #11 mama winger

I hate the Mets.

Maybe we can CHANGE that! dB-)

(Please note the ball cap on my smiley...cool huh?)

24 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:15:17pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

McCain talking about the economy. It's not his strongest area.

It's a Thursday night in the summertime. Cable. No one's watching anyway. :)

25 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:15:26pm

re: #17 uncle_monkey

exxxxx-cellent!

26 EC Marm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:15:43pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

McCain talking about the economy. It's not his strongest area.


The only time I've seen him energized lately is when he spoke about the need to "get off" foreign oil. If he had one goal, and one goal only for a four year term, I can't think of a better one.

27 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:15:50pm

re: #23 yitzy

Maybe we can CHANGE that! dB-)

(Please note the ball cap on my smiley...cool huh?)

As long as it doesn't say 1969 on it :)

28 HDrepub  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:16:01pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

McCain talking about the economy. It's not his strongest area.

It sure isn't Obama's either for sure. Matter of fact Obama's strongest thing so far is Change and Hope.
Most of the issues are things the President can't do much about anyway. Just look at the fools he has to work with in Congress.

29 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:16:03pm

Thoughts on my possible upcoming Nic Change.

Dirty Ummah Hole
Ummah Droppings
Festering Ummah
Ummah Fumes

Ummah Golly, Miss Molly
Ummah-Loompah

Ummah the Hutt
It's Nada Ummah
Ummah Chu Ummah Wong


Throbbing Ummah
Craptacular Ummah

Ummah's Bane

Ummah, the Unlikely

Pax Ummah, the Impossible

Death is Ummah Porn

Spoonful of Ummah
Stan's Other Ummah (D-Usa)
Democrat(tm) brand Ummah Lube
--------
That's all I got.
Vote on em if you please. Don't if you don't please.

My faves for POing the Ummah are up by the top.
Ummah Golly, Miss Molly is a corker, IMO.

I really like the bottom three.

I'm guessing Charles, hits be upon his server (HBUHS), would disallow the top four...certainly incindiary.

Feel free to straight-up gank, lift, borrow, or otherwise use any of them, since my catching an open door is a mathematical rarity comparable to the likelihood of life just forming from... nevermind. :)

-Taq

30 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:16:16pm

re: #20 Charles

Yikes.

31 sadhu  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:16:38pm

McCain says it: we are at war with radical islamic extremism

and praises General David Petraeus

and nails Obama again -- "his 855th day without visiting Iraq and he has never sat down with General Petraeus"

32 gibsonz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:16:41pm

Ahh the open thread, a great place to rant about those five morons on the Supreme court who need to be replaced before Mother Ginsburg and crew find a rationale to hand the world what is left of our rights.

33 conservativeChick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:16:44pm

I heard Ron Paul is quiting his campaign tonight. I can't wait to hear the Paulians scream.

34 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:17:31pm

re: #24 mama winger

Good point.

35 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:17:58pm

re: #33 conservativeChick

Please not those shrill little paulian screams.

I'd rather scratch a chalkboard.

36 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:18:01pm

re: #29 Taqiyyotomist

Festering Ummah

I like this one. It's picturesque.

37 Adrenalyn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:18:15pm

re: #29 Taqiyyotomist

Thoughts on my possible upcoming Nic Change.


-Taq

ok, I got the killer for you

Ummah Come Lately

there's an imam in town
everybody loves him
and he's stoning her
and you're not around

just another imam in town

38 sadhu  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:18:21pm

He's on fire. This is such a great forum for him. No wonder Obama bailed.

39 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:18:30pm

re: #33 conservativeChick

I heard Ron Paul is quiting his campaign tonight. I can't wait to hear the Paulians scream.

It was as if a billion yard signs screamed, and then disappeared into garages and garbage piles.

40 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:19:01pm

re: #36 mama winger

Festering Ummah

I like this one. It's picturesque.

I like Papa Ummah Mow Mow

41 Adrenalyn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:19:29pm

re: #40 OldLineTexan

I like Papa Ummah Mow Mow

damn !

I like this too, a plus for you

42 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:19:36pm

re: #37 Adrenalyn

Ummha over to my house
I'm gonna give ya some candy...
When we kill more Jooos

43 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:19:39pm

re: #39 OldLineTexan

It was as if a billion yard signs screamed, and then disappeared into garages and garbage piles.

HAHAHAHAHA!

44 wolfie  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:20:10pm

re: #29 Taqiyyotomist

Ummah Golly, Miss Molly :)

45 philosoteric  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:20:29pm

So how 'bout them Yanks?

*COUGH* *COUGH*

46 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:20:32pm

re: #40 OldLineTexan

Or ...
Popov Uhmma Mao mao
for the chairman.

47 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:20:34pm

I am an American - my family goes back a long way, my fathers grand parents helped settle the Oregon Territory.

WHY should some murdering jihadi from some middle-eastern shit hole have the same rights in America that I do?

I don't get it, and I hope I never do.

48 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:21:06pm

re: #38 sadhu
Agree. He is relaxed, has facts and is showing a sense of humor. None of that pained face thing he does during scripted jokes. Lets see how he does with Q & A.

49 HDrepub  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:21:14pm

Charles I sent you an email through the site when you have time to read your email.

50 MJ  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:21:26pm

Hannah Menashe was only 21 when she was abducted from her family in Baghdad ahead of their immigration to Israel. Decades later, Hanna is finally making aliyah to reunite with her family who had lost hope of ever seeing her again
Itamar Eichner


Fifty-five years after she was abducted from her family's home in Baghdad by her Muslim neighbor and forced to renounce her Judaism, Hannah Menashe managed to flee Iraq and find her way to one of Israel’s European embassies. Her long, exhausting journey is finally coming to an end these days, as she will soon be reunited with he family in Israel, who thought her murdered all these years.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

51 The Other Les  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:21:36pm

re: #33 conservativeChick

I heard Ron Paul is quiting his campaign tonight. I can't wait to hear the Paulians scream.

I can't wait for them to clear their hand made signs from the sides of our highways.

52 Macker  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:21:51pm

re: #20 Charles

The troll in the registration thread, by the way, is posting from Fairfax, Virginia, home of the Islamic Saudi Academy that's in the news today for their radical Islamic indoctrination.

Hey troll motherfrakker! You're Number One alright!

53 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:21:59pm

Has anyone ever seen Michelle Obama and Wayne Brady in the same room?

54 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:22:09pm

re: #44 wolfie

Ummah Golly, Miss Molly :)

Ummah, You're in Trouble!
Ummah Thurman
Ummah Believer
NOW Ummah Believer
Ummah Bear
Ummah Hog
UmmahInfidel
HummidaUmmahdoodah

55 wolfie  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:22:43pm

re: #50 MJ

What an amazing story !

56 realwest  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:22:46pm

re: #6 OldLineTexan
Hey my friend - hit and run post, but I wanted to thank you again for your help today!
Thanks!
Gotta run, hope to catch you later on down the road!

57 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:23:04pm

re: #53 Truck Monkey

OUCH! But Can she sing like Brady?


I..I.. Don't think so.

58 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:23:21pm

re: #56 realwest

Hey my friend - hit and run post, but I wanted to thank you again for your help today!
Thanks!
Gotta run, hope to catch you later on down the road!

My pleasure!

59 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:23:21pm

re: #53 Truck Monkey

What's wrong the Wayne Brady? I know that Mrs. Obama is a WAB, what's up with Wayne? I've always enjoyed him.

S

60 wolfie  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:23:26pm

re: #54 OldLineTexan

Ummah, You're in Trouble!
Ummah Thurman
Ummah Believer
NOW Ummah Believer
Ummah Bear
Ummah Hog
UmmahInfidel
HummidaUmmahdoodah

That's it !

61 FreeIowa  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:23:34pm

re: #39 OldLineTexan

It was as if a billion yard signs screamed, and then disappeared into garages and garbage piles.


LOL
I'll have to see if the goof down the road still has his eight foot wide RP sign in his front yard the next time I go by.

62 George guy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:23:38pm

I'd like to announce that I will be running for President in 2024, assuming that at such a time there is still a United States to be President thereof, and that it is still a republic that has an office of President.

63 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:01pm

re: #59 SusanL

What's wrong the Wayne Brady? I know that Mrs. Obama is a WAB, what's up with Wayne? I've always enjoyed him.

S

Please excuse my ignorance, but what does "WAB" mean?

64 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:07pm

re: #62 George guy


What's your platform?

65 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:09pm

re: #5 yitzy

Just picked up my Mets / Rangers tickets for this Sunday. Go METS!


Why would the Mets play the New York Rangers? What sport?

66 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:12pm

re: #59 SusanL

What's wrong the Wayne Brady? I know that Mrs. Obama is a WAB, what's up with Wayne? I've always enjoyed him.

S

White people love Wayne Brady 'cause he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.

-Dave Chapelle

67 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:39pm

re: #63 goddessoftheclassroom

Mandy said it stands for whiney assed bitch. Sounds like it fits to me.

68 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:51pm

re: #66 OldLineTexan

Dave!

69 wolfie  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:24:56pm

re: #64 SusanL

What's your platform?

Hope! Change!

70 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:25:08pm

McCain does well when he's off script.

71 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:25:25pm

re: #67 SusanL

Mandy said it stands for whiney assed bitch. Sounds like it fits to me.

OH, I like that ! Very appropriate!

72 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:25:25pm

re: #69 wolfie

Again? Can't they come up with any thing new? :)

73 UncleSam  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:25:40pm

Man, that's hilarious!

Actually, I don't get it.
(Well, I sort of do, but I don't want to admit it..)

74 freetoken  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:25:50pm

Let's see, in other news:

Tornadoes still popping up crazy today in the midwest. Also, lots of flooding in Iowa and surrounding areas. Corn prices have been driven up...

Heck, food prices in general are really starting to be noticed by more and more people. It can't be blamed on any one thing, but Ben hasn't helped by pouring loads of $$$ onto the fire.

China's oil imports up by double digits in first 5 months

At a 12.7% YoY growth rate, forget about cheap oil coming your way soon... or ever.

75 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:26:15pm

re: #68 Kostya Lotz

Dave!

Dave ain't here, man!

76 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:26:17pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

McCain does well when he's off script.

Killgore - did you get your kitchen finished yet?

77 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:26:18pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

McCain does well when he's off script.

so doesn't Obama, if you like "errr ,,,, ummm,, ahhh,,, well,,, ummm,, errr,,, ahhh "

78 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:26:34pm

Tear Down This Wall !

DRINK !

79 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:26:46pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout
Actually better! Shows some passion and sincerity. I like it.

80 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:26:56pm

re: #36 mama winger

Picturesque? LOL. Well, boil me in oil.

81 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:27:20pm

re: #75 OldLineTexan

No...no. I'm Dave, now open up I got the stuff man.

82 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:27:32pm

LOL at Popov Ummah Mao mau, Ummah Believer

We shall see. We shall see. ::puts fingertips together, mulls...

83 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:27:43pm

re: #76 SusanL

Yeah, the kitchen is finished (aside from a little touch up painting). It feels really good to have that over with.

84 ted  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:27:49pm

Good Grief: NY Times describes Hamas as a "local organization"

Disputed Blast in Gaza Kills 5

By ISABEL KERSHNER and TAGHREED EL-KHODARY

Published: June 13, 2008

JERUSALEM — A large explosion destroyed a residential building in the northern Gaza town of Beit Lahiya on Thursday, killing five Palestinians, including a baby girl and four men known locally as Hamas militants.

Hamas, the Islamic group that controls Gaza, initially blamed the blast on an Israeli airstrike, and it unleashed a hail of rockets and mortar rounds at Israeli towns and villages around the Gaza periphery.

But the Israeli military vehemently denied any involvement in the incident, saying that it had not been active in the area at the time.

A spokesman for the Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, said later that the group would carry out an investigation, a tacit acknowledgment that the blast could have been caused by explosives being handled by militants inside the house.

In a speech marking the first anniversary of Hamas’s takeover of Gaza on Thursday evening, the Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniya, made no mention of the Beit Lahiya incident at all, strengthening the supposition that it was an internal affair.

Still, the chain of events underscored the volatility of the situation a day after Israel’s security cabinet voted to pursue efforts for an Egyptian-brokered cease-fire with Palestinian groups in Gaza.

The explosion, which occurred at about 1 p.m., completely destroyed the home of the Hamouda family and damaged several buildings nearby.

Dr. Muawiya Hassanein, director of emergency medical services in Gaza, identified those killed as Hassan Abu Shaqfa, Ashraf Mushtaha, Muhammad Maqdad and Ataya Hamouda, all men in their 20s, and Nur Hamouda, a 4-month-old girl.

Mr. Abu Shaqfa was known as a local field commander for the Qassam Brigades. The other three men were said to be members of the group.

Immediately after the blast, a Hamas official, Mushir al-Masri, told Hamas-run Al-Aksa television that “the enemy must pay the price. We will not remain passive after this horrible crime,” he said.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

85 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:27:52pm

re: #80 Cap'n DOC

Picturesque? LOL. Well, boil me in oil.

In time, infidel dog. In time.

/

86 wolfie  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:28:11pm

re: #72 SusanL

Again? Can't they come up with any thing new? :)

Are you saying you hope they'll change ? ;)

87 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:28:11pm

re: #80 Cap'n DOC

Picturesque? LOL. Well, boil me in oil.

at $4.50 a gallon? Are you kidding me? Can't we just put matches in your hand and light that ?

88 DoubleU  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:28:37pm

Why declare a variable if you are not going to use it?

If $troll
$troll = "";


or
If $troll
unset($troll);

89 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:28:38pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

McCain does well when he's off script.

Gotta' have something in suit to go off script.

90 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:28:40pm

re: #81 Kostya Lotz

No...no. I'm Dave, now open up I got the stuff man.

HA!

91 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:28:42pm

re: #59 SusanL

What's wrong the Wayne Brady? I know that Mrs. Obama is a WAB, what's up with Wayne? I've always enjoyed him.

S

My point is that I think they are the same person.

92 HDrepub  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:29:03pm

re: #87 sattv4u2

at $4.50 a gallon? Are you kidding me? Can't we just put matches in your hand and light that ?

Perhaps he would be happy with canola or peanut oil.

93 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:29:07pm

re: #78 SasquatchOnSteroids

Tear Down This Wall !

DRINK !

That's the CHANGE I'm talking about!

94 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:29:11pm

re: #87 sattv4u2

Okay. Crisco.

95 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:29:30pm

re: #90 OldLineTexan

"who is it?!"

96 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:29:43pm

re: #66 OldLineTexan

White people love Wayne Brady 'cause he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.

-Dave Chapelle

That was actually not a Dave Chapelle quote but it was on his show.

97 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:29:56pm

re: #95 Kostya Lotz

"who is it?!"

Uh...line!

98 StPatrick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:30:06pm

re: #11 mama winger

I agree wholeheartedly. Ron Santo is the leader of this particular pack.

99 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:30:26pm

re: #96 Truck Monkey

That was actually not a Dave Chapelle quote but it was on his show.

Yeah, that's where I heard it. Who said it?

100 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:30:46pm

Wayne Brady,, he was the 7th child on the Brady Bunch,, the one they never talked about !

Speaking of which ( The Brady Bunch) wasn't the dad an ARCHITECT? So tell me why they had 3 adults, 6 kids and only 4 bedrooms !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

101 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:30:52pm

re: #97 OldLineTexan

"Think Blind Mellon Chitlin'"

good smokes......

102 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:31:14pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

and he was GAY!

103 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:31:19pm

re: #98 StPatrick

I agree wholeheartedly. Ron Santo is the leader of this particular pack.

Hall of Fame. He needs to be there.

104 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:31:27pm

re: #89 jcm

Gotta' have something in suit to go off script.

He seems to be able to think on his feet, unlike his opponent.

At least if he wins, we know that there will be no "show trials", pogroms and re-education camps.

Of course, I would give just about anything to see Nancy Pelosi on trial for treason. I know, it ain't gonna happen, but a girl can dream can't she?

105 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:31:45pm

re: #99 OldLineTexan

Yeah, that's where I heard it. Who said it?

I'll look it up and get back to you.

106 SusanL  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:04pm

re: #91 Truck Monkey

Wayne Brady is much better looking.

S :)

107 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:04pm

re: #84 ted


Good Grief: NY Times describes Hamas as a "local organization"

Well, sure. I mean, Lion's Club, Rotarians, Hamas... you know.

108 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:14pm

The stock market is driving up the price of oil?

109 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:17pm

re: #98 StPatrick

Ron Santo? I think it should be Mon Santo. Think green.

110 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:20pm

re: #104 SusanL

but a girl can dream can't she?

No, I think that's a hate crime now.

111 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:26pm

re: #104 SusanL


Of course, I would give just about anything to see Nancy Pelosi on trial for treason. I know, it ain't gonna happen, but a girl can dream can't she?

I'd rather see her retire in disgrace.

112 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:36pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

Wayne Brady,, he was the 7th child on the Brady Bunch,, the one they never talked about !

Speaking of which ( The Brady Bunch) wasn't the dad an ARCHITECT? So tell me why they had 3 adults, 6 kids and only 4 bedrooms !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

And he was gay!

113 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:32:49pm

re: #106 SusanL

that's 'cause he's a MAN, baby!

114 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:33:49pm

Hamas investigation

Achmed: What happened?
Machmoud: What happened? Does it matter, Blame Israel

Official Hamas statement:Our investigation shows the Zionist entity destroyed property and spilled the taboo blood of Palestinians

115 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:33:51pm

re: #112 Truck Monkey

beat ya, see #102

116 stuck in california  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:34:11pm

Can the women sitting behind McCain on Fox be any less attractive?

117 freetoken  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:34:17pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Heck, in today's market... if Killgore Trout sneezes the price of oil will probably rise!

118 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:34:26pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

The stock market is driving up the price of oil?

And he was gay!

What?

119 ted  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:34:31pm

re: #107 Occasional Reader

Well, sure. I mean, Lion's Club, Rotarians, Hamas... you know.

Mindblowing.

120 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:34:37pm

re: #107 Occasional Reader

Well, sure. I mean, Lion's Club, Rotarians, Hamas... you know.

Yeah, they meet the 2nd Tuesday and 4th Thursday at the Gaza City Applebees

121 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:34:59pm

re: #117 freetoken

Ah-chooo!
/Sorry about that.

122 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:35:12pm

re: #116 stuck in california

Can the women sitting behind McCain on Fox be any less attractive?

What does that have to do with the rising price of gay oil?

123 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:35:13pm

I'm too late for the last thread, but I get the distinct impression that since BHO is all over the map in his proclimations, he's probabaly pulling another "Canada" and telling CAIR to shush until after the election when he really won't mean what he says when campaigning.

124 StPatrick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:35:16pm

re: #109 Cap'n DOC

Hey, I'm a chemist. Monsanto rules.

125 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:35:29pm

re: #117 freetoken

I like your avatar - is it new?

126 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:35:48pm

re: #101 Kostya Lotz

Hey, Blind Baby, what's a ding-dong?

127 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:36:05pm

re: #122 OldLineTexan

What does that have to do with the rising price of gay oil?

I could have you arrested for that homophobic remark.

128 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:36:18pm

re: #120 madisonsfriend

And eat BabyBackRibs. PORK! It's what's for dinner!

129 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:36:24pm

re: #84 ted


Know locally as Hamas Militants- known here as scumbag terrorists

130 missouri boy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:00pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

The stock market is driving up the price of oil?

Hi Killgore...I recently read where 87% of the move in the price of oil can be explained by the increase in money supply. The Fed has been printing dollars like 2 drunk monkeys going at it.

131 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:20pm

re: #118 Occasional Reader

c'mon, we're all gay....
no...no.. we're all DEVO.

Yeah that's it. We're all DEVO.

132 kywrite  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:22pm

re: #38 sadhu

He's on fire. This is such a great forum for him. No wonder Obama bailed.

Did y'all hear the beginning, when he said he would block out a day every week and invited Obama to join him for a town hall meeting? Hee! If he keeps hammering on that, it'll start hitting the polls. If Obama shows up, he'll take a hit too. Win-win.

133 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:23pm

re: #116 stuck in california
Really? I hadn't noticed. I see young guys in khaki shorts.

134 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:31pm

re: #125 mama winger

I like Your icon!
Beautiful puppy! :)

135 StPatrick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:33pm

Get on board! We are the change we've been waiting for!

/as long as you don't own a house, want to keep your money, like superpower status, and want to surrender influence with all the tinpot 3rd worlders by "talking" with them

136 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:36pm

re: #130 missouri boy

Hi Killgore...I recently read where 87% of the move in the price of oil can be explained by the increase in money supply. The Fed has been printing dollars like 2 drunk monkeys going at it.

Speaking of which I need more sangria.

137 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:38pm

...

138 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:37:48pm

Hemispheric free trade agreement? That sounds nice.

139 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:38:04pm

re: #124 StPatrick

Well - and GREEN besides.

140 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:38:06pm

Ahhh... php code.

Now your speaking my language!

141 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:38:14pm

re: #126 Taqyia2Me

I think he's gonna show ya... (zipper sound and female screams)

142 HDrepub  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:38:18pm

re: #128 Cap'n DOC

And eat BabyBackRibs. PORK! It's what's for dinner!

Not for me! I love ribs but I have to eat the leanest cuts of pork.
Quadruple bypasses in 2004.

143 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:38:58pm

re: #130 missouri boy


Hi Killgore...I recently read where 87% of the move in the price of oil can be explained by the increase in money supply.


I hadn't heard that before. I have heard that when the fed reduces interest rates the dollar drops. Weaker dollars buy less oil.

144 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:39:37pm

Anyone catching McCain looking like a genius? /sarc

"If there is any speculation going on, we need an investigation".

Come on John, we need better than that. Since when is speculation illegal? Isn't every trade in every market speculation?

145 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:39:42pm

re: #142 HDrepub

You're still riding, aintcha?

146 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:39:48pm

re: #134 MigueldowninMexico

I like Your icon!
Beautiful puppy! :)

Miguel Miguel ! How are you my friend! ?

Thank you - he is the pound puppy I adopted after my beloved greyhound died last month of bone cancer. He has brought happiness back into my home.

AS to avatars - yours changed too ! You used to have the Archangel and now you have a cat. I don't know which one has the more intense gaze :)

147 StPatrick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:39:48pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

weaker dollars also increase the purchase of "hard" commodities, of which oil is one

148 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:39:49pm

btw some on the left think that moving the dnc to chicago will get it away from "corruption"
Heh

149 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:40:12pm

re: #142 HDrepub

Not for me! I love ribs but I have to eat the leanest cuts of pork.
Quadruple bypasses in 2004.

{HDrepub} Sorry to read that.
May you be healthy from now on, with the blessing of God.

150 HDrepub  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:40:36pm

re: #145 Cap'n DOC

You're still riding, aintcha?

Better than ever! Instead of 500 miles a day I can now do 650 LOL.

151 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:41:14pm

re: #148 Typicalwhitey

btw some on the left think that moving the dnc to chicago will get it away from "corruption"
Heh

heh heh heh

fer cryin out loud - Chicago and corruption are kissing cousins.

152 StPatrick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:42:17pm

re: #151 mama winger

I used to live there - they're not cousins, they're one and the same. Chicago is all machine politics.

153 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:42:19pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the kitchen is finished (aside from a little touch up painting). It feels really good to have that over with.

Did you contract for the work or did you DIY? If you contracted, how was your experience? I'm not looking to remodel - just bought a new home 2 yrs ago, but I'm in the construction biz and we live on customer satisfaction surveys. I like to hear people's experiences.

154 HDrepub  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:42:22pm

re: #149 MigueldowninMexico

{HDrepub} Sorry to read that.
May you be healthy from now on, with the blessing of God.

Thanks Miguel in Mexico, and I am enjoying good health now. My cardiologist said he was proud of me and keep up the good work.

155 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:42:29pm

At least he (McCain) understands coorporate taxes and their affect on jobs

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:42:36pm
157 Bosk  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:42:40pm

re: #151 mama winger

Kinda like Democrat and ethics.

158 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:43:22pm

re: #152 StPatrick

I used to live there - they're not cousins, they're one and the same. Chicago is all machine politics.

Ain't it the truth. For this reason ,and the fact that Obama's behind- the- scenes operatives OWN Chicago, they are moving the heist-planning there.

159 FreeIowa  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:43:40pm

FYI: Anyone traveling through Iowa tomorrow, IDOT is expecting the Cedar River to wash over Interstate 80 at approximately mile post 266, requiring it's closure and detour sometime midday tomorrow.

160 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:43:41pm

Iranian Simulation

June 12, 2008: Iranian engineers have created a computer simulator for its F-4 fighter pilots. Iran bought 225 F-4 Phantom jets in the 1970s, and several dozen are still operational. Spare parts are obtained via a smuggling network, with some of the less complex parts manufactured inside Iran.

Yeah, they bought an Xbox360 on Ebay.

161 kywrite  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:43:46pm

re: #91 Truck Monkey

My point is that I think they are the same person.

My Wayne Brady would never marry that man! Ew.

(have you seen his wife? she is totally hot and I say that as a chick.)

162 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:43:53pm

re: #141 Kostya Lotz

Damn! You could jump rope with that thing!

163 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:43:55pm

re: #146 mama winger

Miguel Miguel ! How are you my friend! ?

Thank you - he is the pound puppy I adopted after my beloved greyhound died last month of bone cancer. He has brought happiness back into my home.

AS to avatars - yours changed too ! You used to have the Archangel and now you have a cat. I don't know which one has the more intense gaze :)

My cat is wild! lol And on top of that, Killian already scolded me for lack of focus lol. (Guess I'll change the icon soon).

Mama, I understand you so well... Dogs for me are almost like my own children, and one of them departing hurts a lot. But a new puppy can be fantastic to heal! They are so wonderful and lovingful, they really help you get over it.

{Mama} ;)

164 missouri boy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:44:01pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Greenspan quit looking at M3 money supply in 1998 because it was rising at about 20% per year......it has been ever since and continues to do so....Also, have you seen the billions the Fed is pouring into the banks to bail them out?...Can you say HYPER-INFLATION?

165 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:44:10pm

re: #127 mama winger

Please, please arrest me, then you can be the bad bad jail warden, and I'll be the simpering faye savant....wait you're a girl!

166 StPatrick  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:44:22pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

could be a good handle...

Ummah gettin tired of this
Where Ummah sandals?

167 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:44:34pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

Half the time when I read you, I am also groaning. Coincidence? Or cruel cruel pun-related evil?

168 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:44:56pm
169 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:45:05pm

re: #154 HDrepub

Thanks Miguel in Mexico, and I am enjoying good health now. My cardiologist said he was proud of me and keep up the good work.


Do so, indeed!
Congratulations for those news ;)

170 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:45:21pm

re: #163 MigueldowninMexico

Someday Miguel, you and I will meet. And we will sing together of the glories of the Lord.

171 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:45:31pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

You'd think the Muslims would try to sweeten their image by producing at least something useful and pleasant. Like maybe little sweets in the shape of burkha'd figures, marketed as Ummi Bears.

Well....baklava IS pretty darn good. Actually, middle eastern food in general is wonderful.

172 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:45:46pm
173 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:45:47pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

You'd think the Muslims would try to sweeten their image by producing at least something useful and pleasant. Like maybe little sweets in the shape of burkha'd figures, marketed as Ummi Bears.

ROFL!

So true...

174 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:45:49pm

re: #134 MigueldowninMexico

{MigueldowninMexico}

How wonderful to hear from you!

175 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:46:05pm

Okay Kiddies. I have to head home, get me some Irish Ale and watch the Celtics go up 3-1 over the Fakers,.,, umm,,, oooopss.,. LAKERS

BEAT L.A.,,,BEAT L.A ,,,, BEAT L.A.,,,,,

176 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:46:19pm

re: #162 Taqyia2Me

Big Bamboo was an awesome album.
First time I heard it I was sober and peed my pants.

177 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:46:19pm

re: #165 Kostya Lotz

Please, please arrest me, then you can be the bad bad jail warden, and I'll be the simpering faye savant....wait you're a girl!

I used to be a girl - now I am just an old lady. ha

178 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:46:24pm

re: #151 mama winger

heh heh heh

fer cryin out loud - Chicago and corruption are kissing cousins.


I know!


Teh Schtoopid

Snippet:

This is excellent news, folks! Remove the Inside the Beltway, DLC, and DINO influence is key here. Obama's campaign has been a model of discipline, unity, and efficiency.* Finally! A nominee that isn't afraid to take charge. I'm REALLY liking this new face of the Democratic Party.


*Except for that whole webpage thingy, wright, pfliger, johnson etc etc
Bwahahahah

179 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:46:29pm

re: #170 mama winger

Someday Miguel, you and I will meet. And we will sing together of the glories of the Lord.

Nothing would be more pleasant to me! :)

God bless you mama!

180 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:46:43pm

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

I thought you'd groan used to it.

You need to go to the naughty chair for a bit.

181 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:47:33pm

re: #179 MigueldowninMexico

Nothing would be more pleasant to me! :)

God bless you mama!

We will do it - in this life or the next. Look for me - I will be the old lady with dog hair all over her, clinging to my gun and my bible. haha

182 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:48:26pm

re: #181 mama winger

We will do it - in this life or the next. Look for me - I will be the old lady with dog hair all over her, clinging to my gun and my bible. haha

May I suggest electolosys,,, or at least a nice sweater ?

183 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:48:28pm

re: #174 goddessoftheclassroom

{MigueldowninMexico}

How wonderful to hear from you!

Why, so kind of you, same here {Goddess}!
How are the Visigoths doing? LOL

184 sirusstudent  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:48:59pm

Just wondering about that supposed Obama birth cert. Back then a black persons race would have been Negro, not African. It seems fake to me.

185 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:49:12pm

re: #175 sattv4u2

Okay Kiddies. I have to head home, get me some Irish Ale and watch the Celtics go up 3-1 over the Fakers,.,, umm,,, oooopss.,. LAKERS

BEAT L.A.,,,BEAT L.A ,,,, BEAT L.A.,,,,,

"Fakers." How original. That term was bandied about, what.....8 championship rings ago!

186 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:49:19pm

re: #153 Russkilitlover

Did you contract for the work or did you DIY? If you contracted, how was your experience? I'm not looking to remodel - just bought a new home 2 yrs ago, but I'm in the construction biz and we live on customer satisfaction surveys. I like to hear people's experiences.

I contracted though Home Depot. The workmen were all really good but there were a lot of layers of communication and it was really easy for things to get overlooked, forgotten, etc and it was very expensive. If I had it all to do over again I'd just get a regular contractor. My experience with contractors has been pretty good and the communication and organization was much better that dealing with home depot.

187 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:49:30pm

re: #160 SasquatchOnSteroids

Iranian Simulation

Yeah, they bought an Xbox360 on Ebay.

We have the same model the Iranians do.
We call 'em QF-4B, supersonic maneuvering target aircraft.

188 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:49:46pm

re: #182 sattv4u2

May I suggest electolosys,,, or at least a nice sweater ?

I could probably make a couple of sweaters a year with the pet hair I collect on myself. Maybe I could look into selling them on Ebay.

189 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:49:57pm

re: #181 mama winger

We will do it - in this life or the next. Look for me - I will be the old lady with dog hair all over her, clinging to my gun and my bible. haha

Hahahahaha.

Great image! Hahahaha.

Though I suspect there will be quite a few old dadies like that!

You'll be a typical saint ;)

190 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:50:10pm
191 Rich7041  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:50:33pm

Oh brother:

ABC News: Is this the last century of civilization?

192 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:51:06pm

re: #189 MigueldowninMexico

Yes - I imagine there might be a lot of us like that. I better include a drink in my hand :)

193 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:51:08pm

re: #164 missouri boy

Greenspan quit looking at M3 money supply in 1998 because it was rising at about 20% per year......it has been ever since and continues to do so....Also, have you seen the billions the Fed is pouring into the banks to bail them out?...Can you say HYPER-INFLATION?

Yep.

Y'know what it is - say inflation goes up 200% over the next year. Real estate prices double! Interest rates double, too, but adjustable mortgage payments usually have a much lower cap! Problem solved!

Every CDO holder eats it, everyone holding bonds eats it - including the Saudis and Chinese. What if they bail? Well, they can't.

Pretty much what it looks like to me.

But y'know what, this ONLY works with BIG inflation, a little inflation doesn't cut it. Can't inflate our way to lower gas prices, doesn't work like that oil is a real commodity.

I sure hope I'm wrong.

194 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:51:11pm

re: #184 sirusstudent

Just wondering about that supposed Obama birth cert. Back then a black persons race would have been Negro, not African. It seems fake to me.

That is true. I'm old enough to remember ;)

195 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:51:22pm

re: #184 sirusstudent

Just wondering about that supposed Obama birth cert. Back then a black persons race would have been Negro, not African. It seems fake to me.

What I can' t figure out is why release it through KOS? Not the MSM?

196 kywrite  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:51:31pm

re: #184 sirusstudent

Just wondering about that supposed Obama birth cert. Back then a black persons race would have been Negro, not African. It seems fake to me.

Havaii lets you write whatever you want on the cert. You might be able to get away with Klingon. The one I saw earlier had one parent down as German, English, and a couple other things, the mom as Japanese.

197 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:51:35pm

gotta go - phone call - bbl

198 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:52:07pm

re: #183 MigueldowninMexico

Why, so kind of you, same here {Goddess}!
How are the Visigoths doing? LOL

I've sent them back to the hinterlands for the the summer. I miss them already.

199 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:52:13pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

I've heard that several times about HD. Hmmm....maybe there's an opportunity there for an executive level customer experience manager!

200 freetoken  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:52:14pm

re: #147 StPatrick

Nevertheless, "87%" sounds like too much attribution to the cheapening of the dollar.

Oil is up (over the last 6 years) in all currencies, and also compared to gold (I believer the gold:oil ratio hit a new low this week.)

201 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:52:18pm

re: #188 mama winger

I could probably make a couple of sweaters a year with the pet hair I collect on myself. Maybe I could look into selling them on Ebay.

I've already filled a dozen pillows with it...

j/k

202 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:52:25pm

re: #195 Yankee Division Son

What I can' t figure out is why release it through KOS? Not the MSM?

Because kos has his head so far up the obambi's nether regions, that he accidentally stumbled upon it.

203 Tamron  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:53:02pm

Charles, as others have recently stated, I'm also becoming addicted to the SPY feature which you've so thoughtfully added for our entertainment.

I keep one browser open in the background watching the SPY messages (with about 3 inches of screen devoted to it), and also keep another one open in the foreground to cruise around the threads. Great combo.

Five stars to you!
.

204 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:53:09pm

re: #187 jcm

We have the same model the Iranians do.
We call 'em QF-4B, supersonic maneuvering target aircraft.

Hey, you seem to know, maybe you can answer me a question.
IIRC, during the the first gulf war, Saddam sent some of his Mirage jets to Iran. Whatever happened to those, or did it not even happen ?

205 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:53:20pm

re: #197 mama winger

gotta go - phone call - bbl

I hope it's from Heavens ;)

206 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:53:33pm

Being in Illinois and noting the DNC's move to Chicago at their presidential candidate's request, one question (that clearly won't be asked):
Barack Obama, do you plan, if elected, to follow your fellow traveler Gov Milorad 'Rod' Blagojevich's lead and refuse to move into the White House as he has refused to move into the governor's mansion here upon his election?

207 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:53:48pm

re: #200 freetoken

Oil is up (over the last 6 years) in all currencies, and also compared to gold (I believer the gold:oil ratio hit a new low this week.)

Maybe that's just progress, but in the past it has always corrected, in this case gold would go up. What with the Chinese stock market getting killed, odd the price of gold hasn't already soared there.

208 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:54:12pm

re: #198 goddessoftheclassroom

I've sent them back to the hinterlands for the the summer. I miss them already.

That's it. Can't live with them, can't live without them lol

I remember my times as a teacher hahaha.

209 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:54:58pm

re: #195 Yankee Division Son

What I can' t figure out is why release it through KOS? Not the MSM?

Koss is MSM!
Main Socialist Media!

210 Kostya Lotz  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:56:05pm

re: #200 freetoken

I just noticed your avitar has a kinda "Bob" thing going on...Creepy-cool.

211 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:56:33pm

re: #99 OldLineTexan

Yeah, that's where I heard it. Who said it?

Paul Mooney. Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a bitch?

another great line from the Wayne Brady/Dave Chapelle skit.

212 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:57:22pm

re: #204 SasquatchOnSteroids

Hey, you seem to know, maybe you can answer me a question.
IIRC, during the the first gulf war, Saddam sent some of his Mirage jets to Iran. Whatever happened to those, or did it not even happen ?

The Iranians keep 'em, I remember that...
Flight status not sure.

213 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 4:58:40pm

re: #212 jcm

The Iranians keep 'em, I remember that...
Flight status not sure.

Saddam sent ALL his aircraft over there.

The Iranians returned a big middle finger to him LOL

Talk about stupid moves.

214 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:00:23pm

re: #212 jcm

The Iranians keep 'em, I remember that...
Flight status not sure.

Thanks.

215 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:00:52pm

I would've posted earlier, but I'm an openthreadophobe.

216 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:01:19pm

re: #215 Fenway_Nation

I would've posted earlier, but I'm an openthreadophobe.

Me three!

217 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:02:41pm

As long as obamaphobia doesn't begin to spread all over the land...

218 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:03:47pm

"I'm an obamaphobic and I didn't know it"

219 Josephine  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:04:00pm

re: #29 Taqiyyotomist

I like Ummah's Bane.

It reminds me of Lord Foul's Bane... Wow, it's been a long time since I read those books. Maybe it's time to borrow them again from the baby brother.

220 freetoken  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:06:26pm

re: #210 Kostya Lotz

You mean this guy?

221 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:07:07pm

re: #195 Yankee Division Son

What I can' t figure out is why release it through KOS? Not the MSM?

It just doesn't make sense to me, for a number of reasons.

Why pick a partisan political blog and not the MSM? Kos doesn't bring alto of credibility to the table, let alone most/many people have never heard of it. (yes, it's a popular blog, but how many Mr./Mrs. average Americans know of it)

If not the MSM, he has his own website and blog, as we've seen. Why not just post it there? I looked around on his site, not even a mention of it that I found. Website security concerns?

222 Prikolno  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:07:52pm

I wonder if Charles will ever make this website script open source.

223 Ojoe  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:08:33pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Good, because the job of President is way off-script.

224 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:08:37pm

re: #222 Prikolno

I wonder if Charles will ever make this website script open source.

Mañana.

225 EC Marm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:08:56pm

Apparently you can't melt gold with a propane torch.

226 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:09:41pm

re: #224 MigueldowninMexico

Mañana.

Is that the literal translation... tomorrow,
or the functional translation... not today?
;-P

227 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:10:35pm

re: #206 Taqyia2Me

Being in Illinois and noting the DNC's move to Chicago at their presidential candidate's request, one question (that clearly won't be asked):
Barack Obama, do you plan, if elected, to follow your fellow traveler Gov Milorad 'Rod' Blagojevich's lead and refuse to move into the White House as he has refused to move into the governor's mansion here upon his election?

When I heard the DNC was moving to Chicago (Barack has also graciously allowed Dean to keep his job - since when the the potential nominee become the dictator?) my response was "Does he plan to move the White House to Chicago too?

The national committees have historically been in DC because that is the "neutral" seat of the Federal government, where no one state holds power. The whole thing has a very bad smell to it to me. And who, BTW, is paying for the move?

228 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:10:55pm

re: #226 jcm

Is that the literal translation... tomorrow,
or the functional translation... not today?
;-P

It means tomorrow, literally, but the Mexican mañana is something like "yeah sure, sit down to wait, or you'll be pretty tired"

229 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:12:13pm

re: #221 Yankee Division Son

It just doesn't make sense to me, for a number of reasons.

Why pick a partisan political blog and not the MSM? Kos doesn't bring alto of credibility to the table, let alone most/many people have never heard of it. (yes, it's a popular blog, but how many Mr./Mrs. average Americans know of it)

If not the MSM, he has his own website and blog, as we've seen. Why not just post it there? I looked around on his site, not even a mention of it that I found. Website security concerns?

I figured this out while I was out pulling weeds. If the "birth certificate" is accepted and the matter swept under the rug, it is all good. If it isn't accepted (and it shouldn't be) and turns out to be fake, then Obama is completely in the clear to heave Markos right straight under the bus with Grandma and everyone else. "Plausible deniability."

230 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:12:47pm

re: #227 galloping granny

They used U Haul...

231 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:12:49pm

re: #228 MigueldowninMexico

It means tomorrow, literally, but the Mexican mañana is something like "yeah sure, sit down to wait, or you'll be pretty tired"

In Persian there's the word Allon, literal translation - right away, right now, functionally it means - not now.

232 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:12:52pm

We now have some apologists for fascism showing up in the "White Supremacists" thread.

233 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:12:53pm

re: #228 MigueldowninMexico

It means tomorrow, literally, but the Mexican mañana is something like "yeah sure, sit down to wait, or you'll be pretty tired"

Miguel - you are here in broad daylight! Hola!

234 BGOH  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:02pm

I rarely venture into these open threads, so forgive me if I am abusing decorum, but I feel compelled to say this:

Why does Bill O'Reilly discuss economic issues in public? He is a great and compelling broadcaster and good at what he does, but every time he opens his trap and tries to discuss matters economic he just sounds like a bumbling idiot. Someone like him, with his viewership, could do a lot to rally this nation around the very sensible idea of ACTUALLY DRILLING OUR OWN OIL, but instead he is going off on these platitudinous tangents about the evils of the speculation market, and "big oil" being out to "screw the little guy."

It's beginning to make me sick.

235 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:11pm

And two long-time LGF posters are revealing themselves.

236 maddogg  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:15pm

O'Reilly is reporting that the Chief Justice of the 9th circuit court of appeals in California has been caught with pornography on his computer! He will cover it after the current break.

237 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:29pm

re: #229 galloping granny

I like the last two words.

238 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:37pm

re: #230 MigueldowninMexico

They used U Haul...

It ain't cheap anymore. A "day" is four hours and it is darned near a buck a mile, you buy the gas.

239 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:41pm

re: #231 jcm

In Persian there's the word Allon, literal translation - right away, right now, functionally it means - not now.

That's close then !

240 CoCo  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:13:55pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

Wayne Brady,, he was the 7th child on the Brady Bunch,, the one they never talked about !

Speaking of which ( The Brady Bunch) wasn't the dad an ARCHITECT? So tell me why they had 3 adults, 6 kids and only 4 bedrooms !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

But don't you remember that time that Greg got that groovy room in the attic?

241 Prikolno  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:14:43pm

Obama's sudden success reminds me of that freak in Jericho [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] . The senator that was ressponsible for the nuclear attack, in order to get the presidential seat.

242 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:14:44pm

re: #232 Charles

And that thread would be...

243 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:00pm

re: #233 galloping granny

Miguel - you are here in broad daylight! Hola!

I figured that if garlic doesn't scare me anymore, I could perhaps do in broad daylight!

Hola Granny! :)

244 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:01pm

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

JPost: GOP Senses opportunity to finally get those Jewish votes!

245 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:07pm

re: #181 mama winger

We will do it - in this life or the next. Look for me - I will be the old lady with dog hair all over her, clinging to my gun and my bible. haha

Well, I hope that doesn't mean you won't refuse a couple rounds of Pacifico or maybe Dos Equis (spelling?) It's hot today in Northern California, so I can only imagine what sun is doing to assist the brewers down your way.

246 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:07pm

re: #237 Cap'n DOC

I like the last two words.

Yeah, I liked those words Cap'n. I always have gotten some of my very best insight while doing mindless things or while I am "sound asleep."

247 Asher Abrams  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:28pm

Beware the JUIF!

248 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:31pm

re: #235 Charles

And two long-time LGF posters are revealing themselves.

Names, names! lol

249 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:44pm

re: #232 Charles

We now have some apologists for fascism showing up in the "White Supremacists" thread.

Which thread? I just glanced back, but I'm not sure which one you mean.

How disappointing (about the Lizards, I mean).

250 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:49pm

In fact, two long-time LGF posters are going to lose their accounts right now. I've had it with sneaky racist bastards.

251 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:50pm

re: #229 galloping granny

I figured this out while I was out pulling weeds. If the "birth certificate" is accepted and the matter swept under the rug, it is all good. If it isn't accepted (and it shouldn't be) and turns out to be fake, then Obama is completely in the clear to heave Markos right straight under the bus with Grandma and everyone else. "Plausible deniability."

Ya know, you might be on to something there.

252 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:15:54pm

re: #246 galloping granny

I keep a pen and paper beside my bed. I do some of my best thinking while sleeping.

253 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:16:18pm

re: #230 MigueldowninMexico

They used U Haul...

Miguel....Obambi only uses a BUS....kills two birds with one stone that way.

254 CoCo  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:16:18pm

re: #229 galloping granny

I figured this out while I was out pulling weeds. If the "birth certificate" is accepted and the matter swept under the rug, it is all good. If it isn't accepted (and it shouldn't be) and turns out to be fake, then Obama is completely in the clear to heave Markos right straight under the bus with Grandma and everyone else. "Plausible deniability."

They've posted the same at barry's website...see this.

255 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:16:41pm

re: #238 galloping granny

It ain't cheap anymore. A "day" is four hours and it is darned near a buck a mile, you buy the gas.

Wow! I was living in the 80's in the US.
I won't tell you the prices, so you won't feel bad ;)

256 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:16:48pm

re: #250 Charles

Let us peak.

257 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:17:00pm

re: #241 Prikolno

Obama's sudden success reminds me of that freak in Jericho [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] . The senator that was ressponsible for the nuclear attack, in order to get the presidential seat.

I am currently reading Kathy Reichs' Death Du Jour, which is about a cult. The discussion with the specialist our heroine is having about cults had my hair standing on end going "yup, check, I see that, yup, check, check."

258 EC Marm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:17:12pm

I don't see any "White Supremest" thread?
signed,
clueless

259 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:18:03pm

re: #245 ContraJihadi

Well, I hope that doesn't mean you won't refuse a couple rounds of Pacifico or maybe Dos Equis (spelling?) It's hot today in Northern California, so I can only imagine what sun is doing to assist the brewers down your way.

Dos equis, yes. Two X's. The bottle has the XX on it ;)

260 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:18:13pm

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

261 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:18:31pm

I found it!

Youtube Video

certainly not suitable for the younger set.

Wayne Brady/Michelle Obama. You make the call.

262 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:18:36pm

'Q' is out of here. I just looked at the links he's been posting, and the barely disguised racism is sickening.

263 Meremortal  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:18:43pm

I wanna watch! Where's the hammer coming down at?

264 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:18:53pm

re: #253 Typicalwhitey

Miguel....Obambi only uses a BUS....kills two birds with one stone that way.

That is right!
Obama is soooooooo smart!

/Looks in awe and utter admiration!
;)

265 EC Marm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:02pm

Oh, that was yesterday. In blog time, that's like a month ago.

266 Prikolno  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:05pm

re: #229 galloping granny

I figured this out while I was out pulling weeds. If the "birth certificate" is accepted and the matter swept under the rug, it is all good. If it isn't accepted (and it shouldn't be) and turns out to be fake, then Obama is completely in the clear to heave Markos right straight under the bus with Grandma and everyone else. "Plausible deniability."

Actually it is on their website, [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

267 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:10pm

re: #252 Cap'n DOC

I keep a pen and paper beside my bed. I do some of my best thinking while sleeping.

I would but I never can wake up and remember it. I have "written" entire theses and speeches while I "slept" though and gotten up and thrown them on paper as fast as I could type.

268 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:16pm

re: #258 EC Marm

I don't see any "White Supremest" thread?
signed,
clueless

White Supremacists for Obama. A few back.

269 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:29pm

re: #247 Asher Abrams

Please. I've spent a good deal of time studying that site, and the people behind it are - not good. Foul mouthed (on other blogs) and downright wrong. Look at the banner - A Crescent and a Peace symbol. Does that make awholelotta sense to you?

270 Meremortal  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:33pm

Ooh, OK, I see it.

271 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:53pm

re: #266 Prikolno

Actually it is on their website, [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Wasn't earlier.

272 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:19:53pm

I'm also going to delete every link he has posted.

273 Millertime33  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:20:24pm

re: #17 uncle_monkey

I like it...

Since we are also looking at a sequel to Carter, a "II" themed movie might be appropriate...

274 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:20:29pm

Looks like I am the meat (#261) in a Charles sandwich (#260 and #262)

275 kay1212  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:20:35pm

re: #200 freetoken

Nevertheless, "87%" sounds like too much attribution to the cheapening of the dollar.

Oil is up (over the last 6 years) in all currencies, and also compared to gold (I believer the gold:oil ratio hit a new low this week.)


Yes, it's an energy shortage. Coal and nat gas are up more too.

The US needs to drill its own reserves. Additionally, the US has 400 years worth of coal, coal that the Chinese desperately want, that it nees to be allowed to use. Finally, the US needs nuclear energy. Remember, nuclear energy has killed less people in the US than Teddy Kennedy.

I'm tired of the Democrats refusing to allow energy production and development in this country. The Middle East now has reportedly $3 TRILLION of our money. The entire market cap of all US stocks in only about $14 trillion.

276 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:21:11pm

re: #260 Charles

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thank you, Charles. I didn't realize threads kept going so long.

277 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:21:48pm

re: #266 Prikolno

Actually it is on their website, [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

And I still want to see the certified long form copy. This one with the 1997 date on the back of a document that was not printed until after it was revised in November of 2001 just doesn't cut it.

278 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:22:09pm

re: #262 Charles

'Q' is out of here. I just looked at the links he's been posting, and the barely disguised racism is sickening.

Q?
I've never seen that guy/gal commenting.
I don't even remember that nick.

But you're the best webmaster there is Charles, ;)

279 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:22:44pm

re: #278 MigueldowninMexico

Q?
I've never seen that guy/gal commenting.
I don't even remember that nick.

But you're the best webmaster there is Charles, ;)

I'm going to "echo" that, especially for keeping an eye on old threads.

280 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:22:53pm

re: #278 MigueldowninMexico

Q?
I've never seen that guy/gal commenting.
I don't even remember that nick.

But you're the best webmaster there is Charles, ;)

I do but very vaguely from quite some while ago.

281 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:23:05pm

re: #278 MigueldowninMexico

Q?
I've never seen that guy/gal commenting.
I don't even remember that nick.

But you're the best webmaster there is Charles, ;)

No kidding, if Q were on kos he would be a front pager by now.
Kudo's to you Charles.
Man, I LOVE this site.

282 BGOH  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:23:08pm

re: #262 Charles

'Q' is out of here. I just looked at the links he's been posting, and the barely disguised racism is sickening.

Good for you, Charles. I sincerely applaud your stance against racism in any and all of it's forms. It certainly makes all of the idiotic smears levied against you around the lefty blogosphere seem very, very stupid.

283 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:23:54pm

re: #276 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you, Charles. I didn't realize threads kept going so long.

Several nics we don't see often on the active threads also.

284 somaking  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:24:24pm

re: #2 Noam Sayin'

That would be ?

285 Racer X  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:24:39pm

re: #275 kay1212

Remember, nuclear energy has killed less people in the US than Teddy Kennedy.

LOL!

True.

286 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:25:08pm

re: #279 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm going to "echo" that, especially for keeping an eye on old threads.

On everything. An amazing control that I can hardly believe.

287 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:25:10pm

re: #259 MigueldowninMexico

Well, I love the stuff, even if I have trouble with the spelling. It seems to show more lively hops and more lingering malt than Pacifico, although Pacifico can be very refreshing when the sun (at least this Alta California sun) is especially fierce. .

288 RTLM  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:26:03pm

Hamas work accident flattens house/kills 7 terrorists - Hamas blames Israel and launches 50 rockets and mortars. Then admits work accident. (after Israel carries out air strikes)
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

The statement was taken as a Hamas acknowledgment that the blast was probably accidental, not an Israeli attack. Dozens of militants have been killed while handing explosives in recent years.

Another failed truce.

289 asher abrams  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:26:11pm

#include < stdio.h>
int main (void)
{
//time to get a beer
getchar();
return 0;
}

290 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:26:38pm

Charles, I still cannot realiably pause the spy. Maybe it has something to do with minimizing and restoring the window? The On checkbox seems to work OK when the spy first opens, but when I come back to it after this and that, it seems to ignore the check, I've turned it back on, waited, and then turned it off, but it keeps spying anyway, over ten, twenty, more seconds.

291 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:26:46pm

re: #269 Cap'n DOC

. Look at the banner - A Crescent and a Peace symbol.

Oy Vey! Sounds like a honey-trap for Obamatons.

292 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:27:13pm

re: #288 RTLM

Hamas work accident flattens house/kills 7 terrorists - Hamas blames Israel and launches 50 rockets and mortars. Then admits work accident. (after Israel carries out air strikes)
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]


Another failed truce.

Hamas didn't want a truce. They have pulled something extremely similar on the eve of every truce that I can remember.

293 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:27:32pm

re: #278 MigueldowninMexico

Q?
I've never seen that guy/gal commenting.
I don't even remember that nick.

He's been here for years. I wish I'd figured out what he was about sooner.

294 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:27:51pm

re: #287 ContraJihadi

Well, I love the stuff, even if I have trouble with the spelling. It seems to show more lively hops and more lingering malt than Pacifico, although Pacifico can be very refreshing when the sun (at least this Alta California sun) is especially fierce. .

There's a new beer here (sort of new) called "Indio".
If the day is hot and the Indio is cold...it's a delight!
Great beer for me.

295 RTLM  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:27:52pm

re: #292 galloping granny

I forgot the /

296 Prikolno  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:28:03pm

re: #277 galloping granny

And I still want to see the certified long form copy. This one with the 1997 date on the back of a document that was not printed until after it was revised in November of 2001 just doesn't cut it.

I see what you mean.

297 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:28:32pm

re: #282 BGOH

Good for you, Charles. I sincerely applaud your stance against racism in any and all of it's forms. It certainly makes all of the idiotic smears levied against you around the lefty blogosphere seem very, very stupid.

Seconded.

298 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:28:49pm

re: #290 itellu3times

Charles, I still cannot realiably pause the spy. Maybe it has something to do with minimizing and restoring the window? The On checkbox seems to work OK when the spy first opens, but when I come back to it after this and that, it seems to ignore the check, I've turned it back on, waited, and then turned it off, but it keeps spying anyway, over ten, twenty, more seconds.

Which browser are you using?

299 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:29:18pm

Brother,

'nother one on the Registration Thread.

300 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:29:20pm

re: #275 kay1212

Y Remember, nuclear energy has killed less people in the US than Teddy Kennedy.

But Three Mile Island did have some negative health effects -
from the coal that was burned to replace the power when the unit was down.
(Not only that, but burning coal releases more radioactivity than a nuclear power plant.)

301 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:29:25pm

re: #293 Charles

He's been here for years. I wish I'd figured out what he was about sooner.

Thanks, Charles!

302 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:29:27pm

re: #294 MigueldowninMexico

There's a new beer here (sort of new) called "Indio".
If the day is hot and the Indio is cold...it's a delight!
Great beer for me.

Thanks, I'll keep my eyes open.

303 Prikolno  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:29:32pm

re: #293 Charles

He's been here for years. I wish I'd figured out what he was about sooner.

With close to 6K posts in real time every day? That is almost impossible.

304 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:29:54pm

re: #295 RTLM

I forgot the /

Ah, see then. gotta be careful with those sarc tags. Somebody might take you seriously :)

305 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:30:55pm

re: #292 galloping granny

Hamas didn't want a truce. They have pulled something extremely similar on the eve of every truce that I can remember.

Hamas barely exists, has no control over its arms and legs. As soon as one guy announces a truce, some other guy fires a rocket. Islam allows for no central controls, how they ever had a caliphate I don't really understand. And civil Arabic societies, insofar as there is such a thing with sharia part of Islam, is hardly any better, look at the Saudis trying to control, if not eliminate, internal support for Al Qaeda.

We may decry the polarization of our politics, but we're 1500 years ahead of whatever passes for a social contract in dar al-Islam.

306 uncle_monkey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:30:56pm

re: #273 Millertime33

I like it...

Since we are also looking at a sequel to Carter, a "II" themed movie might be appropriate...

Funny you mention that - I started a Jimmy & Barack thing a while ago, thinking of something like "face/off" but started overloading with peanuts and rabbits and cardigan sweaters.

Then it started turning something like a Darth "I am your father" thing - and then it just started getting weird and psychedelic and I had to go have a lie-down.

307 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:31:22pm

re: #298 Charles

Which browser are you using?

IE6sp2
(cringe, sorry).

308 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:32:34pm

Charles and some of the big lizards have worked hard to separate this web site from European white supremacists. We don't need that trash here. Did you see the comments via SPY or were they flagged?

309 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:32:50pm

re: #307 itellu3times

IE6sp2
(cringe, sorry).

Somehow I knew that.

I'll investigate... but you really ought to think about switching to something better. IE6 is really showing its age these days.

310 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:33:17pm

re: #291 ContraJihadi

Their grand idea is to hack every 'bad' verse out of the koran. That's the only way they can justify their 'religion'. Of course it makes no sense, but when did sense ever stand in the way of CHANGE? They would like us all to buy fuel from providers who do not purchase ME oil. Do you know of any providers who strictly refine oil that they do not purchase on the open market like everyone else?

311 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:33:27pm

So if Q was here so long why doesn't that nic jump out at me? I can't remember that nic at all.

312 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:33:38pm

re: #305 itellu3times

Hamas barely exists, has no control over its arms and legs. As soon as one guy announces a truce, some other guy fires a rocket. Islam allows for no central controls, how they ever had a caliphate I don't really understand. And civil Arabic societies, insofar as there is such a thing with sharia part of Islam, is hardly any better, look at the Saudis trying to control, if not eliminate, internal support for Al Qaeda.

We may decry the polarization of our politics, but we're 1500 years ahead of whatever passes for a social contract in dar al-Islam.

Do you really think the Saudis try to control or eliminate internal support for Al Queda? I've had the impression for quite some while now that they only pay lip service to trying to eliminate them and actually support them - monetarily and otherwise - as long as they stay out of the kingdom.

313 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:34:03pm

re: #308 snowcrash

Charles and some of the big lizards have worked hard to separate this web site from European white supremacists. We don't need that trash here. Did you see the comments via SPY or were they flagged?

I always go back to threads about Nazis after a while. These types love to come into dead threads and post their crap after everyone else has moved on. I've seen it over and over.

314 Grammy Cracker  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:34:41pm

GOOD EVENING, LIZARDS! Woot! It is GOOD to be back! Spent the whole day cleaning out freezers and refrigerators. Much spoilage. Poo.

There are still over 80,000 people in southeast Michigan without power. Some may wait until Sunday. For all our advances in technology, you'd think someone would have figured out a better way....

Since these things NEVER happen when Grandpa Cracker is home, I spent four days alone in the dark, with no water and seven dogs to care for. Without our swimming pool, I don't know what I would have done. Air conditioning is a luxury, but water? Not so much!

How are we all tonight? What did I miss?

315 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:34:47pm

re: #306 uncle_monkey

Funny you mention that - I started a Jimmy & Barack thing a while ago, thinking of something like "face/off" but started overloading with peanuts and rabbits and cardigan sweaters.

Then it started turning something like a Darth "I am your father" thing - and then it just started getting weird and psychedelic and I had to go have a lie-down.

I wish I knew how to do that cause I've got some good ideas.

316 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:34:52pm

re: #311 pingjockey

So if Q was here so long why doesn't that nic jump out at me? I can't remember that nic at all.

His registration ID is 851.

317 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:35:00pm

re: #311 pingjockey

So if Q was here so long why doesn't that nic jump out at me? I can't remember that nic at all.

There's several nics back there that aren't familiar. Seems a few lizard are zombies (no reflection on THE zombie), they hang out on dead threads.

318 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:35:19pm

re: #309 Charles

Somehow I knew that.

I'll investigate... but you really ought to think about switching to something better. IE6 is really showing its age these days.

Yah, OK.

Looks more like spy here always ignores check box, or at least it does now I open it again. FWIW.

Hey, anybody with IE6 able to properly pause the spy?

319 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:35:21pm

And we're currently up to 27,225.

320 justdanny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:35:30pm

I hope all good lizards are doing well.

321 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:35:40pm

re: #314 Grammy Cracker

GOOD EVENING, LIZARDS! Woot! It is GOOD to be back! Spent the whole day cleaning out freezers and refrigerators. Much spoilage. Poo.

There are still over 80,000 people in southeast Michigan without power. Some may wait until Sunday. For all our advances in technology, you'd think someone would have figured out a better way....

Since these things NEVER happen when Grandpa Cracker is home, I spent four days alone in the dark, with no water and seven dogs to care for. Without our swimming pool, I don't know what I would have done. Air conditioning is a luxury, but water? Not so much!

How are we all tonight? What did I miss?

Grammy - how awful for you!

322 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:36:28pm

re: #314 Grammy Cracker

{Grammy Cracker}

How brave you are! I'm so glad you're ok.

323 Racer X  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:36:59pm

We're not going to have Ron Paul to kick around anymore.

Supposedly officially ending his campaign right about now.

324 justdanny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:37:26pm

I wonder what my registration ID is?

326 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:38:05pm

re: #324 justdanny

I wonder what my registration ID is?

You're #325.

327 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:39:54pm

re: #219 Josephine

Had a difficult time reading those. Too much depression and whining.

328 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:40:58pm

re: #312 galloping granny

Do you really think the Saudis try to control or eliminate internal support for Al Queda? I've had the impression for quite some while now that they only pay lip service to trying to eliminate them and actually support them - monetarily and otherwise - as long as they stay out of the kingdom.

Over and over, they've given Bush some assurance that they'll try to get control over things - which you will note is not the same as saying they will STOP it. They are not above bribing Al Qaeda to stay away, but then some other royal funds some other wack job who claims to be Al Qaeda and tries to attack a US oil company on Saudi territory - Saudis are trying to deal with a devil of their own making. Maybe they are *somewhat* successful, but insofar as they are successful, the Saudi royals, if not the government, are actually responsible for whatever is left. But yeah, I think they are at least trying ... sort of like the Obama web site, y'know?

329 Geepers  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:41:33pm

justdanny (#324),

All the 6-15ers have to be under 1,000.

330 justdanny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:42:17pm

re: #326 Charles
Sweet. I like that #. Thanks!

331 yochanan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:42:19pm

re: #316 Charles

what is my id'#

332 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:42:35pm

re: #329 Geepers

justdanny (#324),

All the 6-15ers have to be under 1,000.

Heh. The 6-15ers.

You're no. 176.

333 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:42:42pm

I am not a number, I am a free man!

334 Grammy Cracker  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:44:09pm

re: #321 galloping granny

re: #322 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks for the sympathy! I'm one of the lucky ones; there are some homes in our area that were heavily damaged or even destroyed. I heard a long-haul trucker on the radio Monday morning who came home to find the second story of his house was missing! My only permanent loss was a few tree limbs.

Note to my Lizard pals....buy a battery-operated radio (mine can even be powered by hand crank if necessary) and an old-fashioned phone that DOES NOT NEED ELECTRICITY. Keep them in a safe, accessible place with some candles, lighters, flashlights and batteries. Just in case....

335 justdanny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:44:22pm

re: #329 Geepers
I wouldnt want to be in the life situation I was in back when I was all about LGF. But I sure wish I was in a situation currently that would allow me to be a lot more about LGF.

336 BulgarWheat  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:44:24pm

I can't remember when I registered.

337 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:44:32pm

re: #292 galloping granny

Hamas didn't want a truce. They have pulled something extremely similar on the eve of every truce that I can remember.

Israel is still pushing for a truce....

damn bloody kadima party.... DON'T YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH THESE PEOPLE!

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

As more than 50 mortar shells, Kassam and Katyusha rockets were fired into Israel from Gaza on Thursday, the Defense Ministry was still working to "exhaust" the dialogue with Egypt on a cease-fire with Hamas, sources in the Prime Minister's Office said.
338 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:45:11pm

re: #331 yochanan

what is my id'#

8998.

339 justdanny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:45:12pm

re: #333 itellu3times
Hold on to that illusion as long as you can. ;)

340 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:45:30pm

re: #336 BulgarWheat

I can't remember when I registered.

Registered since: Jun 18, 2004 at 9:14 am

341 yochanan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:45:55pm

been here a long time I LIKE IT HERE. thank you charles for letting me vent and rant.

342 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:47:16pm

re: #338 Charles

That's kind of cool, maybe you could add that to the "info" page you get when clicking the avatar, after our registration date. :)

/or not, it could be a royal PITA. LOL

343 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:47:26pm

re: #337 rlevitin

The only thing I can think of is a parallel with someone in an abusive relationship who just wants the abuse to end and who thinks that there has to be some reasonable compromise to make things better.

344 yochanan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:47:33pm

will have to remember the IRON FIST RULE been doing some BLACK SHEEP ALE stuff good.

345 justdanny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:47:34pm

re: #336 BulgarWheat
I know a woman personally whose husband was one of seven men executed for ordering Che's killing.

346 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:47:49pm

I've been here a not-so-long-time, and I also love it here!

Thanks Charles (to echo everyone else)

Keep up the great work, you are doing a tremendous service to the free world. The more hate mail and death threats you get from extremists, the better a job you are doing.... and know you've always got all of our support.

347 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:48:34pm

Charles, you're such a patient man. Aren't you going to get tired of telling lizards their ID? (Or is still like a new toy?)

348 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:49:06pm

re: #341 yochanan

been here a long time I LIKE IT HERE. thank you charles for letting me vent and rant.

Just don't over do it...

/// ;)

349 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:49:29pm

re: #346 rlevitin

You've been here three days already, where's your avatar? ;)

/just kidding

Welcome, to you and all the new lizards. :)

350 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:49:42pm

Hans Blix is back in the news. He thinks that the world should cave and give Iran incentives - claiming that the US policy has failed.

Figures.

351 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:49:52pm

re: #348 migueldowninmexico

Just don't over do it...

/// ;)

LOL Hi Miguel, how are you?

352 guzziguy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:50:14pm

10:30 A.M CDT tomorrow as a part of the Okla. Patriot Guard I'll be honoring the funeral and burial of one of Oklahoma's beloved sons who was killed in the service of our great country. The idiots from the "church" in Ks. are planning on protesting the funeral. Your prayers for the comfort of the family would be greatly appreciated as would prayers for a safe and respectful ride.

353 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:50:14pm

re: #351 gop_patriot

LOL Hi Miguel, how are you?

I'm fine gop, thanks! hehe.
How about you?

354 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:50:16pm

When threads start to die down, I can never tell if a new one has been created or not. I keep rushing to reload the main page, but then I miss comments here... it's a viscious cycle!

355 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:50:34pm

There is still another nick pending, isn't there?

356 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:50:48pm

re: #343 goddessoftheclassroom
To stop- really stop- the violence from the Palestinans, Israel would have to stoop to their level. They can't do it. Not yet.

357 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:50:52pm

re: #352 guzziguy

10:30 A.M CDT tomorrow as a part of the Okla. Patriot Guard I'll be honoring the funeral and burial of one of Oklahoma's beloved sons who was killed in the service of our great country. The idiots from the "church" in Ks. are planning on protesting the funeral. Your prayers for the comfort of the family would be greatly appreciated as would prayers for a safe and respectful ride.

May I add this to the Lizard Prayer List?

358 Geepers  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:51:23pm

Charles (#332),

Heh. The 6-15ers.

You're no. 176.

Thanks.

359 guzziguy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:51:29pm

re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom

Please do.

360 yochanan  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:52:20pm

re: #348 migueldowninmexico

ranting is finished for the nite already openrf the cold ones

361 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:52:22pm

How do you tell what number you are?

362 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:52:43pm

re: #353 migueldowninmexico

Miguel! Mi amigo!

363 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:53:15pm

re: #356 Jim in Virginia

To stop- really stop- the violence from the Palestinans, Israel would have to stoop to their level. They can't do it. Not yet.

They do not have to stoop their level. That statement implies military action against terrorists is equivalent to terrorist acts... Attacking Hamas targets on a large-scale is NOT stooping to the same level as targeting the humanitarian aid trucks Israel sends as they cross into Gaza then screaming about how hungry they are.

There is no moral equivalency at ALL.

364 paxnhymn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:53:40pm

re: #332 Charles

Heh. The 6-15ers.

You're no. 176.

of course you know you've started something Charles...

365 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:53:49pm

re: #334 Grammy Cracker

re: #322 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks for the sympathy! I'm one of the lucky ones; there are some homes in our area that were heavily damaged or even destroyed. I heard a long-haul trucker on the radio Monday morning who came home to find the second story of his house was missing! My only permanent loss was a few tree limbs.

Note to my Lizard pals....buy a battery-operated radio (mine can even be powered by hand crank if necessary) and an old-fashioned phone that DOES NOT NEED ELECTRICITY. Keep them in a safe, accessible place with some candles, lighters, flashlights and batteries. Just in case....

Yup. We don't lose power too often up here in VT, but the last time we had a huge storm it took out 1/4 of the trees in the state and there were people without power for many weeks. We keep all that stuff and a stash of food that does not need to be refrigerated or heated. A small camp stove is always good to have around too.

366 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:53:57pm

re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom
Is school out yet goddess? Any exciting summer plans?

367 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:53:57pm

re: #352 guzziguy

10:30 A.M CDT tomorrow as a part of the Okla. Patriot Guard I'll be honoring the funeral and burial of one of Oklahoma's beloved sons who was killed in the service of our great country. The idiots from the "church" in Ks. are planning on protesting the funeral. Your prayers for the comfort of the family would be greatly appreciated as would prayers for a safe and respectful ride.

Guzzi I salute you from one who has lost a family member in this war.
Thank you for your protection.

368 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:54:17pm

re: #363 rlevitin

When I say that, I always picture a Jenin-type operation in Gaza... Not just a carpet-bombing of the strip... I don't really know what kind of tactics they would use.

369 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:54:30pm

re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom

May I add this to the Lizard Prayer List?

Of course! :)

370 Grammy Cracker  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:54:49pm

re: #352 guzziguy

10:30 A.M CDT tomorrow as a part of the Okla. Patriot Guard I'll be honoring the funeral and burial of one of Oklahoma's beloved sons who was killed in the service of our great country. The idiots from the "church" in Ks. are planning on protesting the funeral. Your prayers for the comfort of the family would be greatly appreciated as would prayers for a safe and respectful ride.

I will pray for you and the family, and God bless you for doing what you can to help them in this most difficult and painful time.

Just as I don't understand how anyone connected with a *religion of peace* can promote violence and hatred, I also don't understand how anyone calling themselves a Baptist can engage in this disgusting and vile behavior. I am a Baptist, and they DO NOT speak for me! I hope all true Baptists, and other people of faith, will join in praying for and honoring the sacrifice of the families of our fallen heroes.

371 Geepers  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:00pm

justdanny (#335),

I wouldnt want to be in the life situation I was in back when I was all about LGF. But I sure wish I was in a situation currently that would allow me to be a lot more about LGF.

You and me both brother. Seems like such a long time ago.

And for those of you unfamiliar with justdanny he is the holder of the "biggest scoop" title for announcing Saddam's capture a day or two before it was public knowledge.

372 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:10pm

re: #337 rlevitin

I do not mean to be insulting in any way, but Olmert and his cronies really really remind me of the Jewish community leaders you read about that were so sure that if they just did what the Nazis wanted that everything would be hunky-dory.

373 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:12pm

re: #352 guzziguy

You fellows do it right - and I salute you.

374 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:33pm

Lizard Prayer List 6/12/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Part I

Thanksgivings
gop patriot: friend’s 6-year-old son almost completely over pneumonia.
Shug: arrival of Shug Junior; Mrs. Shug is fine
Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com: recuperating well
laZardo: friend’s brain scan came back clear
BlueCanuck (and mom)--brother, SIL, and niece in China and safe.
The Albatross: enough clients to cover medical expenses
FishFearMe: "artifact" or a "sclerotic bone lesion" on sacroiliac IS BENIGN!.
killgore trout: stepfather’s doing better
Conservgirl: Father-in-law Oliver is in remission from Multiple Myeloma. It's a miracle.
Suzette: things improving
MamaWinger Father in law doing better

Health issues:
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie--cancer and renal failure
Jorline: father who has colon cancer
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Ma Sands: daughter dealing with postpartum issues
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
realwest: cancer; mom Type II diabetes
BBev: wife’s illness; recovering from surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
loppyd: nephew, recently diagnosed with Type I Diabetes
Babbazee: ancillary health problems
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
EC Marm: wife is hurt
Lucius Septimius: mother
Storagemanager: copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Continued...

375 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:39pm

re: #362 Jim in Virginia

Miguel! Mi amigo!

Hola Jim! How are you now?

376 UberInfidel67  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:39pm

re: #62 George guy There will be George. Trust me...we will not submit : )

377 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:42pm

Lizard Prayer List, Part II

Family, friend, and life situations:
Quizziguy: comfort for family for whom he is riding as part of the Patriot Guard on 6/13
SavageNation
Lucius Septimus: healing of hurts
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling and the loans for the schooling are not working out.
Incanus and family: uncle’s passing
KostyaLotz: In-Law Family and Friends in Sichuan Provence, PRC (earthquake victims)
Lizards who are traveling, especially those going abroad.
Eyes of Blue: daughter’s neighbor's husband killed in Iraq.
committed: brother lost his mobile home to fire
Intrepid:. Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
Gromster: mother’s passing
Bikermailman: mom’s heart surgery next month
Loppyd: stepfather recovering from serious surgery
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq. We lost another nephew (USMC) two years ago.
vxbush: father’s passing; her & son
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
gibsonz: the passing of Sonia Neeley
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
tfc3rid: friend’s passing shortly after diagnosis, leaving wife and 2 young children; friend’s pregnancy/complications
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
Crusader Rabbit: safe traveling
Spidly: brother’s passing
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general


Community issues:

Those suffering in China and Burma
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
Those at risk for speaking the truth
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Those pushing back against dhimmitude
Israel, especially for those who mourn
Ezra Levant and Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

378 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:44pm

As a new hatchling, I'm kinda wondering, is there an easy way to follow along the thread of a conversation (tracing people who have replied to your comment, or anything of the sort?) I've just been using spy, and ctrl-f to "search" for certain keywords.

379 Hard Right  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:55pm

re: #3 goddessoftheclassroom

Any trolls around?

Post some more on the SCOTUS decision and Killian will pop up and act like one again.

380 guzziguy  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:55:58pm

re: #367 Typicalwhitey

May God grant you comfort and peace and thank you for your family's ultimate sacrifice for freedom.

It is my honor to stand for those who stood for us.

381 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:56:08pm

re: #310 Cap'n DOC

Their grand idea is to hack every 'bad' verse out of the koran. That's the only way they can justify their 'religion'. Of course it makes no sense, but when did sense ever stand in the way of CHANGE?

My brother is a born-again Christian. He keeps telling me that Satan never rests. While I am inclined to view as allegories the texts he views as literal truths, I find that his observation about the persistence and irreducibility of evil is beyond doubting. I have also been able to confirm the existence of whited sepulchers and wolves in sheep's clothing.

382 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:56:10pm

re: #361 Typicalwhitey

How do you tell what number you are?

Ask Charles.

383 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:56:43pm

re: #358 Geepers

Charles (#332),


Thanks.

You're a member of the Founder's Club ;)

384 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:57:10pm

re: #372 galloping granny

I do not mean to be insulting in any way, but Olmert and his cronies really really remind me of the Jewish community leaders you read about that were so sure that if they just did what the Nazis wanted that everything would be hunky-dory.

Not insulting at all... I agree in many respects. Except, I feel like his government is more interested in covering their asses on corruption charges then in actually attaining peace.

385 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:57:14pm

re: #339 justdanny

Hold on to that illusion as long as you can. ;)

The Prisoner
Scroll to 2:10, line at 2:40

386 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:57:14pm

re: #381 ContraJihadi

He doesn't. Why would he?

387 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:57:57pm

re: #380 guzziguy

May God grant you comfort and peace and thank you for your family's ultimate sacrifice for freedom.

It is my honor to stand for those who stood for us.


What a moving sentence. Thank you.

388 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:58:24pm

re: #384 rlevitin
re: #372 galloping granny


Lefties are Lefties are Lefties... its the same problem of appeasement everywhere in the world, and throughout history. It just DOES NOT WORK!

389 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:58:30pm

re: #353 migueldowninmexico

Great, thanks. :) Just enjoying the good weather, sunny and hot. Of course with the warmth and humidity come the mosquitoes, bleah. :p lol

390 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:58:30pm

re: #363 rlevitin I'm not implying moral equivlancy, just the opposite. Groups like Hamas see civilians as acceptable, even desirable, targets. The IDF and the US Armed Forces go to great lengths to prevent collateral damage, because they value human life. It's what prevents them from bulldozing Gaza.

391 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:58:36pm

re: #382 galloping granny

Ask Charles.

Thanks, I really don't want to bother him though ;)

392 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:58:49pm

re: #384 rlevitin

Not insulting at all... I agree in many respects. Except, I feel like his government is more interested in covering their asses on corruption charges then in actually attaining peace.

That too. I fail to understand how they remain in office.

393 Geepers  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 5:59:20pm

rlevitin (#354),

When threads start to die down, I can never tell if a new one has been created or not. I keep rushing to reload the main page, but then I miss comments here... it's a viscious cycle!

No need. When you hit "new comments" if a new thread is up it will appear on the right of the "front page" link just like the previous thread is shown to the left.

394 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:00:02pm

re: #380 guzziguy

Thank you.

395 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:00:08pm

re: #388 rlevitin

re: #372 galloping granny


Lefties are Lefties are Lefties... its the same problem of appeasement everywhere in the world, and throughout history. It just DOES NOT WORK!

And you know, the funny thing is they KNOW it doesn't work. They don't even follow the same advice we give to school children dealing with schoolyard bullies.

396 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:00:09pm

Justdanny
Congratulations man!
:)

397 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:00:11pm

re: #386 Cap'n DOC

Sorry, I don't understand your meaning.

398 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:00:13pm

re: #350 lawhawk

Hans Blix is back in the news. He thinks that the world should cave and give Iran incentives - claiming that the US policy has failed.

Figures.

Isn't their incentive for nukes the desire to nuke Israel?
Oh, wait, he wants to give them incentives to stop enrichment?
Probably the only thing they'd accept is for someone else to nuke Israel.
Good thing the UN doesn't have nuclear weapons.

399 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:00:36pm

re: #393 Geepers

rlevitin (#354),

No need. When you hit "new comments" if a new thread is up it will appear on the right of the "front page" link just like the previous thread is shown to the left.

OOOH, thats a good point, never thought of that! Thanks =)

re: #390 Jim in Virginia

I'm not implying moral equivlancy, just the opposite. Groups like Hamas see civilians as acceptable, even desirable, targets. The IDF and the US Armed Forces go to great lengths to prevent collateral damage, because they value human life. It's what prevents them from bulldozing Gaza.

Ahh, misinterpreted you to mean that any military action in Gaza would be the same as what Hamas is doing to Israel.

400 Charles  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:01:03pm

By the way -- I've been thinking about this, and I want all "lizards of faith" to know that my opposition to the intelligent design hoax does not mean I hate you, or don't believe in God.

I'm opposed to ID because it's a really, really bad idea, being promoted by really bad people -- the right-wing equivalent of Islamofascists, who are also opposed to science and evolution.

I am NOT opposed to religious belief, I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science." It's intellectually dishonest and offensive to me on a very deep level.

That is all.

401 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:01:23pm

re: #397 ContraJihadi

...Satan never rests.

402 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:01:27pm

re: #370 Grammy Cracker

I come for a long line of Baptist Preachers. I can trace ministers in my family back to the first minister of the first Protestant Church established in Kent, England.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Phelps is a worker of lawlessness.

403 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:01:45pm

re: #400 Charles

Thanks Charles. That means a lot to me.

404 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:00pm

re: #400 Charles

'Nuf said.

405 Dianna  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:00pm

re: #400 Charles

Thank you. I shall save that, and quote it at need.

406 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:05pm

GOOD EVENING, LIZARDS! Woot! It is GOOD to be back! Spent the whole day cleaning out freezers and refrigerators. Much spoilage. Poo.

There are still over 80,000 people in southeast Michigan without power. Some may wait until Sunday. For all our advances in technology, you'd think someone would have figured out a better way....

Since these things NEVER happen when Grandpa Cracker is home

I'll say a prayer for you tonight..we have experienced great pain and destruction down here in Indiana. I feel so bad for those have lost everything in the blink of an eye..To see fellow brothers and sisters walking away from a destroyed home with only a trash bag of personal stuff breaks my heart. My best wishes and hang in there!
on another note.. 8 of us are driving up your way friday at noon.
Our entourage has tiks to the NASCAR race at Michigan..and the weather report says 40% chance of rain. I sincerely hope that if it rains we get all of it and you get none.
hang in there

407 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:18pm

re: #389 gop_patriot

Great, thanks. :) Just enjoying the good weather, sunny and hot. Of course with the warmth and humidity come the mosquitoes, bleah. :p lol

Are we ever happy with the weather? lol

I seem to complain if it's cold and if it's warm lol

408 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:23pm

re: #400 Charles

By the way -- I've been thinking about this, and I want all "lizards of faith" to know that my opposition to the intelligent design hoax does not mean I hate you, or don't believe in God.

I'm opposed to ID because it's a really, really bad idea, being promoted by really bad people -- the right-wing equivalent of Islamofascists, who are also opposed to science and evolution.

I am NOT opposed to religious belief, I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science." It's intellectually dishonest and offensive to me on a very deep level.

That is all.

I haven't really been following the whole ID/Darwinist debate on LGF... what is it about ID that makes it such a bad idea?

409 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:42pm

em>re: #374 goddessoftheclassroomAdd to thanksgivings: my 85 year old mother's new cornea.
She got a fifteen year or 150,000 mile guarantee.
Modern medicine is amazing.

410 Reno911  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:02:54pm

I see lineal numbers have made their way onto LGF.

Lizards of the Line.

heh

411 paxnhymn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:03:14pm

re: #400 Charles


I'm hiding under this chair....

412 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:03:23pm

re: #407 MigueldowninMexico

Are we ever happy with the weather? lol

I seem to complain if it's cold and if it's warm lol

There are days, as rare as it is. The fact that too cold and too warm is bad just makes the nice days that much nicer.

413 LeftJustAintRight  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:04:14pm

re: #408 rlevitin

I haven't really been following the whole ID/Darwinist debate on LGF... what is it about ID that makes it such a bad idea?


Careful
That sounds like troll question

414 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:04:14pm

re: #400 Charles

By the way -- I've been thinking about this, and I want all "lizards of faith" to know that my opposition to the intelligent design hoax does not mean I hate you, or don't believe in God.

I'm opposed to ID because it's a really, really bad idea, being promoted by really bad people -- the right-wing equivalent of Islamofascists, who are also opposed to science and evolution.

I am NOT opposed to religious belief, I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science." It's intellectually dishonest and offensive to me on a very deep level.

That is all.

I think that if you approach things with an open mind Charles you will find that even those of us of "faith" as you call it do not see this as an agenda issue but more a simple matter of "this is what religion says" and "this is what evolution says." The two are not the least incompatible, it does not promote an erroneous scientific or religious point of view and really shouldn't be an argument. That is exactly what I was taught umpteen years ago. I am as much against making an agenda out of the thing as you are. I just happen to also be against making evolution an agenda item, as far too many do now.

415 Hard Right  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:04:19pm

I believe in evolution myself. I also don't feel that evolution/the will of God are contradictory.

416 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:02pm

re: #409 Jim in Virginia

em>re: #374 goddessoftheclassroomAdd to thanksgivings: my 85 year old mother's new cornea.
She got a fifteen year or 150,000 mile guarantee.
Modern medicine is amazing.

Got it!

I'm so glad for both of you.

All other Lizards: PLEASE let me know of any requests or updates. I will not presume to place you on the list without your express agreement because I do not want to overstep.

417 Grammy Cracker  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:04pm

re: #400 Charles

By the way -- I've been thinking about this, and I want all "lizards of faith" to know that my opposition to the intelligent design hoax does not mean I hate you, or don't believe in God.

I'm opposed to ID because it's a really, really bad idea, being promoted by really bad people -- the right-wing equivalent of Islamofascists, who are also opposed to science and evolution.

I am NOT opposed to religious belief, I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science." It's intellectually dishonest and offensive to me on a very deep level.

That is all.

We can disagree on some things and find important common ground on others. If you 'hated us', you could simply pull the plug on our accounts and be rid of us forever. You don't. We stay. Thank you.

/I just will not be found on any ID vs. Darwin threads....

418 paxnhymn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:24pm

re: #408 rlevitin

I haven't really been following the whole ID/Darwinist debate on LGF... what is it about ID that makes it such a bad idea?

yep. There it is and I didn't even have to countdown...the ubiquitous flame thrower ID question......


(sigh)

419 mama winger  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:28pm

And on that note, I will say goodnight. Thanks again Charles for those words. See you all tomorrow. God bless our troops and keep them safe and strong.

420 Dianna  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:32pm

OK, I finally arrived home. I can't find my house keys, so I had to bother my Male to let me in before he went back to work - and he's been working since 6 a.m. I'm hot, tired, achy and annoyed.

However, since I'm alone, I can play bluegrass. I started with Nickel Creek's Why Should the Fire Die. I think I'll go for Emmylou's Red Dirt Girl next. (Not strictly bluegrass, but it's stuff the Male doesn't care for)

Any further suggestions?

421 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:42pm

re: #415 Hard Right

I believe in evolution myself. I also don't feel that evolution/the will of God are contradictory.

That's because they're not.

422 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:05:57pm

re: #415 Hard Right

I believe in evolution myself. I also don't feel that evolution/the will of God are contradictory.

Yup. How and why/who are two different things.

423 Dianna  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:06:04pm

re: #408 rlevitin

It's unfalsifiable. So it's not science.

424 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:06:09pm

re: #413 LeftJustAintRight

Careful
That sounds like troll question

I didn't mean to be all troll-y with that... I just honestly am ignorant on that specific topic.

As far as I understand it, ID is the concept that science "proves" the universe as we know it is too complex to be "random". Therefore concluding its not, and that mean there was some sort of ID.

I just don't know if that is actually what ID is all about... =S

425 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:06:19pm

re: #400 Charles

By the way -- I've been thinking about this, and I want all "lizards of faith" to know that my opposition to the intelligent design hoax does not mean I hate you, or don't believe in God.

I'm opposed to ID because it's a really, really bad idea, being promoted by really bad people -- the right-wing equivalent of Islamofascists, who are also opposed to science and evolution.

I am NOT opposed to religious belief, I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science." It's intellectually dishonest and offensive to me on a very deep level.

That is all.

I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science."

Excellent, as a person faith with scientific training thank you.

I've tried when I engaged in the debate, to get folks to recognize the borders of science and faith, and the trouble of overlapping them.

426 Hard Right  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:06:27pm

re: #421 Sharmuta

That's because they're not.

Some see otherwise, but I'm not one of them.

427 maddogg  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:06:39pm

re: #420 Dianna

OK, I finally arrived home. I can't find my house keys, so I had to bother my Male to let me in before he went back to work - and he's been working since 6 a.m. I'm hot, tired, achy and annoyed.

However, since I'm alone, I can play bluegrass. I started with Nickel Creek's Why Should the Fire Die. I think I'll go for Emmylou's Red Dirt Girl next. (Not strictly bluegrass, but it's stuff the Male doesn't care for)

Any further suggestions?

Have you frisked the squirrel?

428 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:07:03pm

re: #400 Charles

By the way -- I've been thinking about this, and I want all "lizards of faith" to know that my opposition to the intelligent design hoax does not mean I hate you, or don't believe in God.

I'm opposed to ID because it's a really, really bad idea, being promoted by really bad people -- the right-wing equivalent of Islamofascists, who are also opposed to science and evolution.

I am NOT opposed to religious belief, I'm opposed to political agendas masquerading as "science." It's intellectually dishonest and offensive to me on a very deep level.

That is all.


Duly noted. And I, personally, thank you a lot for this clarification.

You have such a fine instinct to smell fishy stuff that I've developed a lot of trust in you, Charles. You have your mind and heart in the right place.

We know who you are anyway, I don't think any believer would have been thinking bad about you because of this. But still, thanks for saying it ;)

God bless you Charles; and I do believe in His bleesings.

{Charles Johnson}
;)

429 LeftJustAintRight  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:07:23pm

re: #424 rlevitin

I didn't mean to be all troll-y with that... I just honestly am ignorant on that specific topic.

As far as I understand it, ID is the concept that science "proves" the universe as we know it is too complex to be "random". Therefore concluding its not, and that mean there was some sort of ID.

I just don't know if that is actually what ID is all about... =S

If you like it here that is a subject you better know how to argue like an adult

430 Ma Sands  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:07:35pm

re: #352 guzziguy

Will do, am doing, on both counts. Thanks for letting us know.

431 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:07:40pm

re: #400 Charles
Charles- thank you for your honesty and your respect for different points of view. And thank you, multiple multiple times, for this community.

432 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:14pm

re: #412 rlevitin

There are days, as rare as it is. The fact that too cold and too warm is bad just makes the nice days that much nicer.

Good reflection ;)

433 BGOH  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:14pm

re: #349 gop_patriot

Good Lord, I've been here for longer than three days - I really need to get on the avatar bandwagon!

/Is this why most of my posts are completely ignored? LOL

434 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:17pm

re: #426 Hard Right

Some see otherwise, but I'm not one of them.

Some refuse to see the agenda- but I'm not one of them.

435 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:18pm

re: #429 LeftJustAintRight

If you like it here that is a subject you better know how to argue like an adult

lol, alright, I guess I'll just keep mum till i learn more about it.

436 Hard Right  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:20pm

re: #427 maddogg

Have you frisked the squirrel?

Careful, the SCOTUS will grant squirrels special rights too.

437 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:24pm

Evolution thread!

438 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:08:48pm

re: #429 LeftJustAintRight

If you like it here that is a subject you better know how to argue like an adult

Or have sense enough to find something else to do when the subject comes up :)

439 Ma Sands  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:07pm

re: #367 Typicalwhitey

I did not know of your sorrow. Perhaps I was not paying attention. Lifting you up before the throne, too.

440 paxnhymn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:21pm

re: #416 goddessoftheclassroom

Got it!

I'm so glad for both of you.

All other Lizards: PLEASE let me know of any requests or updates. I will not presume to place you on the list without your express agreement because I do not want to overstep.


Thanks for doing that goddess. ya know Babba and I tried to do that after the 04 election on the morning dead thread, but I am so inconsistent that it fell through...thanks again.

441 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:30pm

re: #401 Cap'n DOC

Ah.

Well, I can't speak for my brother, but when I say "Satan," I have in mind a visual symbol, a personification for the evil intentions (even more than for the deeds that follow) that exist in all humans.

Since I am convinced that this inclination is original, I do not conceive of its having an external cause, and therefore I don't see how questions of "why" can apply to it.

442 galloping granny  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:44pm

re: #433 BGOH

Good Lord, I've been here for longer than three days - I really need to get on the avatar bandwagon!

/Is this why most of my posts are completely ignored? LOL

I've been here for years and haven't done anything about an avatar yet. You're probably ignored because folks are just getting to know you.

443 freetoken  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:48pm

re: #433 BGOH

Suggest something really sexy for the avatar.

444 Dianna  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:54pm

re: #427 maddogg

The squirrel and I are as one.

I'm even relatively dapper, today.

445 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:09:57pm

re: #435 rlevitin

Try the tag storm and search LGF for it- read the posts and comments- you'll learn plenty.

446 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:10:07pm

re: #437 Killgore Trout

Not.

447 snowcrash  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:10:28pm

re: #400 Charles
OK. I don't really care, but I like the community and hate to see hard feelings revisit other threads.

448 paxnhymn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:10:42pm

re: #435 rlevitin

lol, alright, I guess I'll just keep mum till i learn more about it.

don't bother. Both sides are firmly entrenched...

449 rlevitin  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:10:50pm

re: #445 Sharmuta

Try the tag storm and search LGF for it- read the posts and comments- you'll learn plenty.

Aaah, yes, the tag storm, another thing I need to learn to use.

450 Ma Sands  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:11:13pm

re: #400 Charles

Thanks for saying all that, Charles. You are a good guy, in very many ways. :)

451 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:11:15pm

re: #433 BGOH

Good Lord, I've been here for longer than three days - I really need to get on the avatar bandwagon!

/Is this why most of my posts are completely ignored? LOL

{BGOH}

I need to know: are you a dog person or a cat person? (yes, you can be both or neither).

452 gop_patriot  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:11:17pm

re: #433 BGOH

LOL! :)

/can't say you're being ignored anymore, I answered your post, nyah!

453 paxnhymn  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:11:17pm

re: #437 Killgore Trout

Evolution thread!

Oh stop it!

454 jcm  Thu, Jun 12, 2008 6:11:18pm

re: #408 rlevitin

I haven't really been following the whole ID/Darwinist debate on LGF... what is it about