I would ship these fools out on the first transport.

When is this country going to stop being so PC that we allow those who would harm us to teach their hatred on our soil?

But when the allegations reached the desk of school director Abdullah Al-Shabnan, he didn’t believe the girl and failed to report the sex abuse claims to law enforcement within the 72 hours required by state law.

It's not surprising. To an islamist, this girl is guilty and should be punished.

re: #2 Typicalwhitey

When is this country going to stop being so PC that we allow those who would harm us to teach their hatred on our soil?

When the hatred runs out of money?

"Just three days before the raid, the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to renew the academy’s lease of county property, ignoring multiple reports of the school’s promotion of violence and hatred."

Dhimmi it. Don't you just hate it when that happens?

Missing in most of the national establishment media coverage of the story, however, is the raid on the school last month by state authorities after academy officials failed to report a five-year-old student’s claims of sex abuse by a parent and later attempted to eliminate any traces of the report.

And you damn well know for sure that if this had been a Christian or Jewish school, that would have been front page of every news channel for days.

re: #3 Sharmuta

It's not surprising. To an islamist, this girl is guilty and should be punished.

Oh, it was probably just a clitorectomy, nothing really serious.
/

Just when you think you've seen the peak of PC stupidity..........they never cease to amaze and disgust me

re: #6 gop_patriot

And you damn well know for sure that if this had been a Christian or Jewish school, that would have been front page of every news channel for days.

Or a Catholic parrish....

Imagine that, leftist school board members either turning a blind-eye or expressly promoting hatred of the United States. The farther you stretch the rubber band, the more it hurts when it snaps.

Why is this even news?
This is the way of islam.
Fairfax, Virginia - Holy Land of Islam - Aquisition nr 38256926.

which found that textbooks used by the academy are filled with incitements to violence and racial and religious bigotry.

Saudi financed and they have these things in their textbooks?

A total shocker!

Fairfax County is ahead of the curve when it comes to dhimmitude. They are also ahead of the curve with sanctuary cities.

This would never be tollerated with a Christian school.

I didn't know secular law enforcers had any right to come onto a Muslim school's grounds to check on the legal doings on campus!
That would never happen if the school declared itself a part of dar al islam.
/

Charles, did you figure out where ibrahaimX (sp?) was posting from more specifically than Northern Virginia?

Wake up America, this has to stop.

I'm still depressed from the Tim Russert Thread and it gets followed up with an abused 5 year-year-old. This will not be a fun Friday.

Go figure.

Is today the 13th?

re: #9 Fenway_Nation

Or a Catholic parrish....

or a Mormon sect.

Does Islam admit that it is possible to abuse a female child? Isn't a female basically a chattel in that culture? I'm surprised she even was in school.

re: #13 vapig

Fairfax County is ahead of the curve when it comes to dhimmitude. They are also ahead of the curve with sanctuary cities.

This would never be tollerated with a Christian school.

Then again, I don't think a truly Christian school would be teacher hate and violence.

re: #10 dual_boot_brain

Imagine that, leftist school board members either turning a blind-eye or expressly promoting hatred of the United States. The farther you stretch the rubber band, the more it hurts when it snaps.

Depends on where and whom it hits.

/Strephon Lives!

Missing in most of the national establishment media coverage of the story, however, is the raid on the school last month by state authorities after academy officials failed to report a five-year-old student’s claims of sex abuse by a parent and later attempted to eliminate any traces of the report.

But to criticize them would be like, racist.

This is on US soil?!?!? Great jumping junipers!

The Islamic Saudi Academy in Fairfax County.
The 44 thousandth holiest site in islam.

Isn't Fairfax County de facto just one big bedroom community for federal bureaucrats?
Could any different scenario be envisioned?
Really?

The school Director was merely doing his Muslim duty,this is not a crime in Islam. A quick arranged marriage as a second or third wife would save the family 'honor' and prevent the death of the little girl.
/

The Bush administration considers the Saudi government to be one of our allies in the War on Terror, and that support extends to the Islamic Saudi Academy as well. Cinnamon Stillwell recently noted an article in the Mount Vernon Gazette that reported 22 soldiers from Ft. Belvoir had recently graduated from the Islamic Saudi Academy’s “Arabic as a Second Language” program. This means that the school is not only being funded by the Saudi government, but also our own government. Deputy Assistant Secretary of The Army Dr. Lynn Heirakuji and the U.S. Army’s Deputy Assistant for Foreign Languages Erol Smith attended the graduation ceremonies.

GAAAHHH

Could you imagine the seething if the authorities were to come in and take 400 children away from their parents because of one abuse claim?

re: #17 DeafDog

I'm still depressed from the Tim Russert Thread and it gets followed up with an abused 5 year-year-old. This will not be a fun Friday.

Go figure.

Is today the 13th?

Tell me about it, I just found out my Grandmother had a stroke three days ago and no one bothered to call me to let me know.

Missing in most of the national establishment media coverage of the story, however, is the raid on the school last month by state authorities after academy officials failed to report a five-year-old student’s claims of sex abuse by a parent and later attempted to eliminate any traces of the report.

It's nice to know that this girl has a parent who cares enough to report this abuse instead of taking the extreme islamic view and thinking their honor has been tarnished by her. Hopefully, this parent will care enough to remove this girl from this school as well.

{Ciannaky}

I'm so sorry. I hope she's recovering well.

re: #17 DeafDog

Is today the 13th?

Yes, but I'm guessing you knew that.

re: #28 Racer X

Could you imagine the seething if the authorities were to come in and take 400 children away from their parents because of one abuse claim?

Virginia ain't Texas.

re: #17 DeafDog

I'm still depressed from the Tim Russert Thread and it gets followed up with an abused 5 year-year-old. This will not be a fun Friday.

Go figure.

Is today the 13th?

Yeah. It is.

Is everyone having a happy Friday the Thirteenth? :-) :-) :-)

Just remember: It's bad luck to be superstitious! :D :D :D :D

re: #28 Racer X

Could you imagine the seething if the authorities were to come in and take 400 children away from their parents because of one abuse claim?

And in particular the Mullah for losing 400 potential suckers martyrs.

re: #28 Racer X

Could you imagine the seething if the authorities were to come in and take 400 children away from their parents because of one abuse claim?

Especially since it was a verified claim from an actual member? Not a 'cell phone borrowed from a friend'

re: #30 Sharmuta

I read that as the parent was the one doing the abusing, that the little girl mentioned it to the school/a teacher and that's why the school was involved... did I read it incorrectly?

re: #34 NomadOfNorad

Yeah. It is.

Is everyone having a happy Friday the Thirteenth? :-) :-) :-)

Just remember: It's bad luck to be superstitious! :D :D :D :D

Ain't Superstitious

Isn't that THIS Saudi Academy -

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The same one mentioned in the links above whose 1999 valedictorian joined Al Queda.

re: #20 goddessoftheclassroom

Then again, I don't think a truly Christian school would be teacher hate and violence.

{Goddess!}

You are, of course, correct. But to the left all things are relative. Or, to be more accurate, all things NOT white, American, Christian and male are SUPERIOR!

re: #26 pat

The school Director was merely doing his Muslim duty,this is not a crime in Islam. A quick arranged marriage as a second or third wife would save the family 'honor' and prevent the death of the little girl.
/

OMG. You never know if someone will try something like that! Imagine a baby subjected to marriage or brutality

Alright does the School Director suffer any legal consequence for failing to report the allegation in a timely manner?
I wouldn't count on it. It does a lot of harm to kow tow nefarious alien customs. If you are in this country act accordingly.
If we continue to disrespect our own laws & customs, they will collapse

I'm sure she was asking for it.

/mullah

re: #30 Sharmuta

It's nice to know that this girl has a parent who cares enough to report this abuse instead of taking the extreme islamic view and thinking their honor has been tarnished by her. Hopefully, this parent will care enough to remove this girl from this school as well.

I think it was the child reporting to the school that one of her parents was sexually abusing her and the school covered it up. Hence my clitorectomy comment.

Okay, I'm going out to get some strawberry daiquiri mix. The blender's siren song is calling my name...

BBIAW

Isn't "punish the female sexual assault victim" one of the 5 pillars of Islam?

re: #31 goddessoftheclassroom

{Ciannaky}

I'm so sorry. I hope she's recovering well.

Appreciate it, it was mild but at 98 you gotta start fearing the inevitable.

Might as well make it three posts in a row...
Ain't That A Shame

re: #32 gop_patriot

asking a question that all know the answer to is considered a rhetorical device....but you probably know that, too!

:-)

re: #45 goddessoftheclassroom

Okay, I'm going out to get some strawberry daiquiri mix. The blender's siren song is calling my name...

BBIAW

Bring enough for the rest of us OK?

re: #42 opnion

Alright does the School Director suffer any legal consequence for failing to report the allegation in a timely manner?
I wouldn't count on it. It does a lot of harm to kow tow nefarious alien customs. If you are in this country act accordingly.
If we continue to disrespect our own laws & customs, they will collapse

A public school employee would lose his or her license. I don't know about criminal charges...

But when the allegations reached the desk of school director Abdullah Al-Shabnan, he didn’t believe the girl and failed to report the sex abuse claims to law enforcement within the 72 hours required by state law.

Apparently tipped off on a cover-up, law enforcement authorities raided the school on May 23 to seize computers and look for evidence after Al-Shabnan ordered the original report deleted from school computers.

I'm sorry, but as a dad, it needs to be said: if someone doesn't at least knee-cap Abdullah Al-Shabnan, there are no true men in that community ...

}:(     [And I'm being lenient here ... when I want to form a mob instead.]

The Fairfax County School Board are filled with liberal idiots that allowed unfettered PC/leftist education indoctrination in all Fairfax County schools and allowed the Islamic Saudi Academy to prosper unchecked.

re: #37 gop_patriot

I read that as the parent was the one doing the abusing, that the little girl mentioned it to the school/a teacher and that's why the school was involved... did I read it incorrectly?

No- maybe I'm reading it wrong. I thought the parent was pursuing the claim- but now that I read it from your perspective- I think you might be correct. Good Lord! I hope this girl gets saved....

re: #15 goddessoftheclassroom

Charles, did you figure out where ibrahaimX (sp?) was posting from more specifically than Northern Virginia?

Fairfax.

I wonder if IbrahimX is a graduate or a teacher.

re: #41 SpartanWoman

OMG. You never know if someone will try something like that! Imagine a baby subjected to marriage or brutality

No!

I will not imagine it.
I am a man of the world and understand that such things exist,
but will not have its presence in my mind.

re: #47 Ciannaky

Appreciate it, it was mild but at 98 you gotta start fearing the inevitable.

Then allow me to wish all your family the comfort and joy of treasuring a life well lived.

When I went to visit a friend who had a husband in Pensacola, where he was being trained in their naval flight school, I saw to my amazement that there were internationals who studied alongside American officers.

Especially galling, was the Saudi Arabia HQ section, which of course, barred women from entering. As if I wanted to go inside...

They used security as their shield to propagate those disgusting views. But pray, what is the the Islamic Saudi Academy's excuse?

re: #55 MandyManners

Fairfax.

I wonder if IbrahimX is a graduate or a teacher.

Or one of the students! :-|

re: #51 goddessoftheclassroom

Would this school be covered by Diplomatic Immunity?

re: #43 Lizard by the Bay

I'm sure she was asking for it.

/mullah

She showed her ankles

re: #51 goddessoftheclassroom

A public school employee would lose his or her license. I don't know about criminal charges...

And in most states there is a pretty big fine for mandated reporters that fail to report.

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom

Then allow me to wish all your family the comfort and joy of treasuring a life well lived.

A good life lived is long enough.
A long life lived isn't good enough.

re: #60 WhiteRasta

Would this school be covered by Diplomatic Immunity?

Only individuals can be covered, not entities. So it's a question of who and why.

these oppressive enclaves are the perfect place for predators to abuse children. cults are like that.

re: #51 goddessoftheclassroom

A public school employee would lose his or her license. I don't know about criminal charges...

Right, there may not be criminal or civil remedies. I guess what I am wonderig is will the guy get kid gloves treatment becuse it is a Saudi, Islamic school.

re: #51 goddessoftheclassroom

A public school employee would lose his or her license. I don't know about criminal charges...

it was most likely one of the school employees who tipped off the cops.

re: #64 vbspurs

Ah. Thanks for that....

Sounds like they are covered by "Cultural Immunity", though...

re: #65 nyc redneck

these oppressive enclaves are the perfect place for predators to abuse children. cults are like that.

I've just had an interesting thought: I wonder if, digging through that computer, they'll find evidence of more sex-crimes and bigger cover-ups in it.

re: #52 kulhwch

I'm sorry, but as a dad, it needs to be said: if someone doesn't at least knee-cap Abdullah Al-Shabnan, there are no true men in that community ...

}:(     [And I'm being lenient here ... when I want to form a mob instead.]

Look, you are viewing this from completely the wrong perspective. This is muslim culture, not ours. The correct norm is for the family to kill the child for daring to be raped and abused. All those men just can't restrain themselves, you know, and it is their perfect right within their religion and their cultural norms to have sex whenever they please with almost anyone. It is the female who pays.

Just three days before the raid, the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to renew the academy’s lease of county property, ignoring multiple reports of the school’s promotion of violence and hatred.

Now imagine if it had been the Boy Scouts of America instead of an Islamic school.

re: #59 NomadOfNorad

Or one of the students! :-|

Why didn't I think of that?!

Oh. It was his use of the phrase "modicum of principle". That's not something I envision many high school students using.

re: #49 DeafDog

;)

re: #60 WhiteRasta

Would this school be covered by Diplomatic Immunity?

Can't imagine that diplomatic immunity would extend to a state licensed school. These are teachers & school administrators, not diplomats.

Imagine if it had been a private Christian school. Names and faces would be plastered all over the television.

re: #72 MandyManners

Jihadi's Thesaurus.

I'm trying to come up with some sort of comment appropriate to this abomination, but everything that comes to mind would get me sent a packin'

I need to go calm down a little. My blood pressure spikes every time see something like this.

re: #70 galloping granny

Look, you are viewing this from completely the wrong perspective. This is muslim culture, not ours. The correct norm is for the family to kill the child for daring to be raped and abused. All those men just can't restrain themselves, you know, and it is their perfect right within their religion and their cultural norms to have sex whenever they please with almost anyone. It is the female who pays.

So scary that this could be happening here. All of it, the school, the capitulation of common sense to fears of jihadi retributions, the hushing up of abuse.

is the raid on the school last month by state authorities after academy officials failed to report a five-year-old student’s claims of sex abuse by a parent

The school will probably get away with this for PC sake. Meanwhile, in Texas the authorities ripped 450 kids from their parents on an allegation of sexual abuse. No Muslims. So it was okay.

re: #54 Sharmuta

It turns the stomach to think that the little girl did the right thing, but her trust in her own teachers and school was misplaced- and that they allegedly helped in the coverup of her abuse. That the state got involved is a good sign that at least one person called about it, and did the right thing... still... :/

re: #51 goddessoftheclassroom

A public school employee would lose his or her license. I don't know about criminal charges...

Los Angeles school official arrested

re: #66 opnion

Right, there may not be criminal or civil remedies. I guess what I am wonderig is will the guy get kid gloves treatment becuse it is a Saudi, Islamic school.

Our laws must be enforced. When the crime involves a child there is simply no excuse for the failure to enforce. If they insist on believing that our laws, which they denounce as man made, do not apply to them then let them appeal to Allah for their salvation from human justice.

(sound of silence)

re: #71 Ringo the Gringo

Now imagine if it had been the Boy Scouts of America instead of an Islamic school.

Scout Oath
On my honor I will do my duty to do my best to God and my country and to obey the Scout law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

Scout Law
A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.

Night and day.

Training the next generation of terrorist bombers over here....so there is no need to bother with a Visa.

It's not islamic to sexually molest a five year old. Now- if she had been nine, on the other hand.....

Under Sharia Law, a woman needs 4, yes 4, Muslim male witnesses to prove rape.

Surely, the Muslims won't be subjected to the indignity of the Infidel's legal system.

Here's 50 Things Muslims Don't Want People to Know.

This is the same school that also teaches.

That trusted friends can only be Muslim.
That even family members, if they are non-believers, have nothing in common with you and should be abandoned or ignored.
That people further away from you geographically and culturally are truly closer to you than the family you live with if your family does not believe.
That one should never establish a close and trusted friendship with a non-Muslim.

Ninth and twelfth grade curricula heavily emphasize the concept of Jihad, of holy war, and the obligation to fight and destroy the enemy and the non-Muslim. There are no grey areas in Saudi schools, it is all black and white and it is all reinforced in classroom assignments, papers and homework.

By next Friday, the current administrators will be 'chastised' back to Saudi Arabia and a new administration will be put in place. Textbooks will be editted to exclude some of the worst passages. Those passages will then become approved but not required "supplemental materials" which the parents will pay for so that the kids can get a's in all of their classes

re: #83 bosforus
On my honor I will do my duty to do my best to God
On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God...
Oopsie

re: #69 NomadOfNorad

I've just had an interesting thought: I wonder if, digging through that computer, they'll find evidence of more sex-crimes and bigger cover-ups in it.

quite possibly. the question is, what will be done abt. it.
imagine if this was a private christian school. and someone deleted information abt. sex abuse of a child.

re: #80 gop_patriot

To be fair to her teachers- they reported it. It's the administrator who covered this up.

It's not difficult to recover data from a hard drive - that is, unless the drive was "sanitized". Believe me, if the authorities wanted this to go further it would have. But then again, we're becoming a world of sissies who don't want to upset muzzlyms so I don't expect this to find any meaningful headway.

re: #77 dgax65

I'm trying to come up with some sort of comment appropriate to this abomination, but everything that comes to mind would get me sent a packin'

I need to go calm down a little. My blood pressure spikes every time see something like this.

May I suggest
FARG those liberal dips4y+ Fairfax County @$$40!3$
that bend over and allow such an abomination in their midst.

re: #4 kynna

When the hatred runs out of money?

Not.Likely.

re: #75 Trelane

Imagine if it had been a private Christian school. Names and faces would be plastered all over the television.

The MSM won't even publish flipp'n cartoons if they show a muslim.

re: #86 Behead Me Bob

If you've got 4 male witnesses to a rape I'm guessing they're doing a little more than just witnessing the rape.

re: #78 SpartanWoman

So scary that this could be happening here. All of it, the school, the capitulation of common sense to fears of jihadi retributions, the hushing up of abuse.

The thing that amazes me is that this clearly religious group is being allowed to lease county property.

re: #85 Sharmuta

It's not islamic to sexually molest a five year old. Now- if she had been nine, on the other hand.....

Well, I disagree. The Koran has a couple of verses (I did research in my college years) which stipulate that a female under the age of three is fair game because the hyman will grow back. Yes, yes, I know, its all Islamic science.

Hello vbspurs ;)

Hi gop_patriot :)

re: #97 galloping granny

The thing that amazes me is that this clearly religious group is being allowed to lease county property.

Do other religious groups lease public property?

No wonder the arab world hates us we would teach half of them that they are not "property" to the heads of the households.

Where is our normally-overreactive child protective services in all this? Are they even taking care of the girl?

Of all the things I hate about Islam as it appears to be practiced today, this is the thing I hate worst: what appears to be a laissez-faire attitude toward an endemic issue with incestuous rape and abuse. I don't say this often, but the people who do this, enable it, and cover it up should burn in hell forever.

But when the allegations reached the desk of school director Abdullah Al-Shabnan, he didn’t believe the girl and failed to report the sex abuse claims to law enforcement within the 72 hours required by state law.

I'm just wondering - what are the criminal consequences of failing to file a report of sexual abuse?

And isn't covering up the report a crime as well?

Would a religious school administrator of a different persuasion be even granted bail?

re: #82 The Other Les

Our laws must be enforced. When the crime involves a child there is simply no excuse for the failure to enforce. If they insist on believing that our laws, which they denounce as man made, do not apply to them then let them appeal to Allah for their salvation from human justice.

(sound of silence)

Well said. If the laws are enforced unevenly, enforced on most, but not on Muslims, the laws lose credibility & therefore respect
We should not be a timid host. It is in the best interest of all that we insist that our laws and customs be respected.

re: #101 Bosk

No wonder the arab world hates us we would teach half of them that they are not "property" to the heads of the households.

Could it be that the Arab view of property is, in fact, the more correct one, and that we are wrong after all?

/ducks

Please note the mock serious tone.

re: #86 Behead Me Bob

They don't even like puppies! Honor killing? Beheadings? Lying to infidel is ok? Ugly culture

re: #96 bosforus

If you've got 4 male witnesses to a rape I'm guessing they're doing a little more than just witnessing the rape.

The point is render prosecution of rape impossible without actually legalizing it. Something that a serial rapist would come up with.

re: #96 bosforus

If you've got 4 male witnesses to a rape I'm guessing they're doing a little more than just witnessing the rape.

Exactly, which leaves, 8 female witnesses for each of the male perps.

re: #86 Behead Me Bob

Under Sharia Law, a woman needs 4, yes 4, Muslim male witnesses to prove rape.

Surely, the Muslims won't be subjected to the indignity of the Infidel's legal system.

Here's 50 Things Muslims Don't Want People to Know.

You know, I have read the bit of the koran that this comes from. The way the story goes is that someone came to mohamed claiming that Aisha, his favorit wife, was essentially fooling around on him. He didn't want to get rid of her, so he said that there had to be four witnesses to prove that she was fooling around.

Now, I guess I don't understand things to well, but what this says to me is that according to the koran as written, those who want to prove that a woman has been "monkeying around" need four witnesses to the event, not that the woman who has been raped needs four witnesses.

Go figure.

re: #97 galloping granny

The thing that amazes me is that this clearly religious group is being allowed to lease county property.

That's not against the law - but when the lefty Fairfax Board of Supervisors actually recommends the school be closed I was very surprised to see the request ignored. There must be an enormous amount of money involved.

This not a crime to Shiia, but it is to Sunni

Speaking of which, why was R. Kelley acquitted on all child porn charges? Didn't they have film?

God our country is going insane.

I work for a certain well known cell phone company and had to do business with this place. My husband (Jewish) was not pleased. My MIL however, backed me up and told him I had to do my job whether I liked it or not. I put a sales presentation together for them, good pitch, but they never called back after I got involved with the deal.

/I wonder if was my last name? Hummmm....

re: #100 MandyManners

Do other religious groups lease public property?

I have never heard of such a thing. I wouldn't bet on a Christian or Jewish group being allowed to do so.

I work in Fairfax Co and live in Alexandria.
I see women in full black burka all the time, it makes me sick.

Because of hitler we cant now legitimately point to them and their values as a danger with out going down a slippery slope.

I see the day when Christians and Jews will have no choice but to sacrifice some of OUR enlightenment ideals to save other ideals. Freedom will requires a rethinking of religious freedom because of moslums.
Dam!

re: #112 Equable

Speaking of which, why was R. Kelley acquitted on all child porn charges? Didn't they have film?

God our country is going insane.

The did. But he and the girl both denied that it was them in the film.

re: #112 Equable

Speaking of which, why was R. Kelley acquitted on all child porn charges? Didn't they have film?

God our country is going insane.

The lawyers argued (successfully it would seem) that although the tape clearly shows a crime, it is not clear (perhaps due to the poor image quality) that the person on the tape is R. Kelly.

re: #85 Sharmuta

It's not islamic to sexually molest a five year old. Now- if she had been nine, on the other hand.....

Yeah, even the Prophet (Pigs be Upon Him) waited until Aiysha was Nine. Ya know cause then he figured that she was all growed.
Another light worker.

As a Catholic, I have a hard time throwing stones about this. True, the MSM are ruthless to Catholics when the story finally does come out, but the Bishops for the catholics knowingly covered up for years.

This story just depresses. I'm out of here.

re: #110 vapig

That's not against the law - but when the lefty Fairfax Board of Supervisors actually recommends the school be closed I was very surprised to see the request ignored. There must be an enormous amount of money involved.

Apparently Bush is all for the school remaining open. And we have soldiers taking a class in Arabic at the school.

State won't close Virginia jihad academy: "They told us they'd revise their textbooks"

The panel, formed by Congress, last year recommended the State Department close the school, though members had not yet reviewed the textbooks....

State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos on Thursday cited the Saudi government's 2006 acknowledgement of a need to revise its textbooks and agreement to do so "in time for the start of the 2008 school year," which starts this fall....

Sounds like the panel, Congress, the State Dep and the academy madrassa are just holding out for more money from the Saudis. What's it gonna take to get some action? A valedictorian voted most likely to be martyred? An honors graduate plotting to off the President?

Oh. Never mind.

re: #109 galloping granny

Situational ethics as usual for The Big Mo'.

the children in that "school" are taught to hate and kill.
this isn't gaza , it's virginia.

Yeah you guys are right - as I have not seen the film it was my understanding that it was clearly him. That whole "reasonable doubt" bit.

re: #114 galloping granny

I have never heard of such a thing. I wouldn't bet on a Christian or Jewish group being allowed to do so.

I know some churches around here get to lease the city park for different things. As long as it's applied equally, I don't think it can be stopped.

re: #113 MellyMel

I work for a certain well known cell phone company and had to do business with this place. My husband (Jewish) was not pleased. My MIL however, backed me up and told him I had to do my job whether I liked it or not. I put a sales presentation together for them, good pitch, but they never called back after I got involved with the deal.

/I wonder if was my last name? Hummmm....

Might as easily be the fact that you are female. At least your company sent you in to do the job. I would assume that they knew that a female Jew would not be the ideal person to make a sale in this joint.

re: #115 swampscott

I work in Fairfax Co and live in Alexandria.
I see women in full black burka all the time, it makes me sick.

Because of hitler we cant now legitimately point to them and their values as a danger with out going down a slippery slope.

I see the day when Christians and Jews will have no choice but to sacrifice some of OUR enlightenment ideals to save other ideals. Freedom will requires a rethinking of religious freedom because of moslums.
Dam!

Are you a bureaucrat pointing up reasons to alter our beloved belief structure and sacred Constitution? Are you saying that we'll be safer in the end if we give up some freedoms?

Not that the Constitution means spit anymore, anyhow, to the Government.

re: #115 swampscott

I work in Fairfax Co and live in Alexandria.
I see women in full black burka all the time, it makes me sick.

Because of hitler we cant now legitimately point to them and their values as a danger with out going down a slippery slope.

I see the day when Christians and Jews will have no choice but to sacrifice some of OUR enlightenment ideals to save other ideals. Freedom will requires a rethinking of religious freedom because of moslums.
Dam!

Gut the Constitution? No way.

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re: #115 swampscott

I work in Fairfax Co and live in Alexandria.
I see women in full black burka all the time, it makes me sick.

Because of hitler we cant now legitimately point to them and their values as a danger with out going down a slippery slope.

I see the day when Christians and Jews will have no choice but to sacrifice some of OUR enlightenment ideals to save other ideals. Freedom will requires a rethinking of religious freedom because of moslums.
Dam!

Howdy neighbor! Nah! I prefer just to kick them out of our country. They have the whole ME and a dozen other countries to practice their religion. I'd like us to be able to have one to practice ours.

re: #68 WhiteRasta

Ah. Thanks for that....

Sounds like they are covered by "Cultural Immunity", though...

A much more virulent strain of immunity -- enforced as it is, by those who hate their own Western culture.

re: #97 galloping granny

The thing that amazes me is that this clearly religious group is being allowed to lease county property.

Well, you know, as long as it's not the Boy Scouts

re: #92 equable

It's not difficult to recover data from a hard drive - that is, unless the drive was "sanitized". Believe me, if the authorities wanted this to go further it would have. But then again, we're becoming a world of sissies who don't want to upset muzzlyms so I don't expect this to find any meaningful headway.

I dunno about that... The fact that the authorities raided the school and then seized the computers suggests that they do intend to do something further.

Things may get interesting, particularly if enough people like us and enough blogs like LGF publicly and loudly keep talking about it, and continue to publicly and loudly keep talking about it. Hold their feet to the fire so they can't get away with not continuing forward with all this.

re: #91 Sharmuta

To be fair to her teachers- they reported it. It's the administrator who covered this up.

True, on the other hand, did they just report it to the administrators? Or did they report it to the police in Fairfax?

Seriously asking, because from the above article it looks like the teachers told the principal, they all told the administrators, and then it stopped- at the Director. The police were tipped off by someone about the cover up, not the original allegation of abuse.

In any case, you're right, the teachers at the very least, believed her.

Another case of PC self destruction......

PC will be (is) our downfall......

re: #130 vapig

Howdy neighbor! Nah! I prefer just to kick them out of our country. They have the whole ME and a dozen other countries to practice their religion. I'd like us to be able to have one to practice ours.

Christianity? Judaism? Bahaism? Animism? Buddhism? Zoroastrianism? Atheism?

re: #131 vbspurs

Exactly!

re: #120 galloping granny

Apparently Bush is all for the school remaining open. And we have soldiers taking a class in Arabic at the school.

I just saw that - and that's REALLY depressing! It's so embarrassing to have that school right here! grr!

re: #119 DeafDog

As a Catholic, I have a hard time throwing stones about this. True, the MSM are ruthless to Catholics when the story finally does come out, but the Bishops for the catholics knowingly covered up for years.

This story just depresses. I'm out of here.

As did public school teachers and so forth. When I was growing up this was a subject that nobody mentioned - ever. It is the crisis in the Catholic church that really brought this issue to public consciousness. There is no longer any excuse anywhere in the United States of America for brushing something like this under the rug.

re: #86 Behead Me Bob

Under Sharia Law, a woman needs 4, yes 4, Muslim male witnesses to prove rape.

And still, she's the one who gets all the blame, not the men. Now, in the West, there USED to be some stigma attached to being a victim of rape. Somehow you "asked" for it, etc.

Their treatment (tied to their sense of tribal honour) is quite different, and far more unapologetically misogynistic.

academy officials failed to report a five-year-old student’s claims of sex abuse by a parent and later attempted to eliminate any traces of the report.

What
Would
The
Prophet
Do

I think we know the answer to that...history?

re: #126 galloping granny

I only got involved after one of my male muslim associates called me and asked for help on the deal. I spoke to ONE guy from the place and after that the whole thing got weird.

/At the time, I had no idea why (it was a few years ago). Now I see it perfectly.

re: #138 vapig

I just saw that - and that's REALLY depressing! It's so embarrassing to have that school right here! grr!

There is really no way to follow the logic of President Bush.

re: #132 opnion

Well, you know, as long as it's not the Boy Scouts

You're making a joke, but unfortunately you're absolutely correct. This country is getting so pathetic in some areas it's maddening! Every traditional aspect of our culture is under assault.

Time to drink!

I wonder if they teach stuff like this:

JUDAISM MAGEN DAVID ORIGINATED IN OTHER CIVILIZATIONS

CAIRO, June 9 - Judaism's most famous symbols, Magen David and Menorah, were originated in other cultures and have nothing to do with the Jews, said an Egyptian archaeologist. According to Abdul-Rehim Rihan, head of Dahab Antiquities, some of the antiquities unearthed in Sinai Peninsula revealed that the Star of David was created as an Islamic decoration.

[Link: www.ansamed.info...]

You want proof you say. Here it is in impeccable Islamic logic:

The six-pointed star was found at the entry of Al-Gundi fort, founded by Saladin from 1183 to 1187 along the military route connecting the Suez and Aqaba gulfs.

re: #134 gop_patriot

It's really troubling. Perhaps the teachers were following procedure, but if a child ever told me something like that, I'd skip whatever procedure and go right to the authorities.

re: #134 gop_patriot

True, on the other hand, did they just report it to the administrators? Or did they report it to the police in Fairfax?

Seriously asking, because from the above article it looks like the teachers told the principal, they all told the administrators, and then it stopped- at the Director. The police were tipped off by someone about the cover up, not the original allegation of abuse.

In any case, you're right, the teachers at the very least, believed her.

Goddess could add some more light here, but often in schools or medical situations an abuse report goes up the chain of command rather than being submitted directly by the teacher.

Now you wingnuts are gonna attack a school with your hate speech?

///// obviously

re: #144 vapig

You're making a joke, but unfortunately you're absolutely correct. This country is getting so pathetic in some areas it's maddening! Every traditional aspect of our culture is under assault.

Time to drink!

Rum & Coke please.

re: #128 MandyManners

Gut the Constitution? No way.

Unfortunately, that's already happening... :-(

bbiab

re: #146 Sharmuta

..."I'd skip whatever procedure and go right to the authorities..."

And you'd probably get fired.....

re: #146 Sharmuta

It's really troubling. Perhaps the teachers were following procedure, but if a child ever told me something like that, I'd skip whatever procedure and go right to the authorities.

Ah, good point. Didn't think of that.

/I've never done very well in settings where I was required to follow procedure. Could be why I didn't think of it...

re: #143 opnion

There is really no way to follow the logic of President Bush.

Yes - his second term has been so disappointing. I wonder what happened? It's like he's not the same person at all. Body snatchers?

re: #149 opnion

Rum & Coke please.

Here's one with a little fresh-squeezed lime.
Cuba Libre !

re: #149 opnion

No rum for me, thanks.

(Instant as*hole. Just add rum!)

re: #152 WhiteRasta

And you'd probably get fired.....

Some things are worth it- like saving a child from a living hell.

re: #145 Opinionated

I wonder if they teach stuff like this:

JUDAISM MAGEN DAVID ORIGINATED IN OTHER CIVILIZATIONS

CAIRO, June 9 - Judaism's most famous symbols, Magen David and Menorah, were originated in other cultures and have nothing to do with the Jews, said an Egyptian archaeologist. According to Abdul-Rehim Rihan, head of Dahab Antiquities, some of the antiquities unearthed in Sinai Peninsula revealed that the Star of David was created as an Islamic decoration.

[Link: www.ansamed.info...]

You want proof you say. Here it is in impeccable Islamic logic:

The six-pointed star was found at the entry of Al-Gundi fort, founded by Saladin from 1183 to 1187 along the military route connecting the Suez and Aqaba gulfs.

And in all the years prior to 1187 that Jews lived and traveled between the Suez and Aqaba, nobody could possibly have left a Star of David there?

Ignorance knows no bounds and the depths to which the moslems will sink to steal other's culture have not been plumbed.

re: #152 WhiteRasta

..."I'd skip whatever procedure and go right to the authorities..."

And you'd probably get fired.....

Kind of like the woman who reported the kiddie pRon in the library?

/This PC crap sucks on toast.

re: #156 WhiteRasta

Well, just have a Coke and yell CUBA LIBRE anyway!

re: #146 Sharmuta

It's really troubling. Perhaps the teachers were following procedure, but if a child ever told me something like that, I'd skip whatever procedure and go right to the authorities.

For which you might very well lose your job. I suspect that somebody did go to the authorities when no one from Social Services showed up. And will have hell to pay for it.

I wonder if they are teaching that hte Menorah and Mogen David are actually Muslim symbols like they are in Egypt.

re: #147 galloping granny

Goddess could add some more light here, but often in schools or medical situations an abuse report goes up the chain of command rather than being submitted directly by the teacher.

Yep, didn't think of that. Scary that one bad person up the chain could keep a little girl from being helped out of an abusive situation...

It's real simple.

Religious tolerance works both ways.

This country was founded in large by those seeking religious freedom.
All religions are welcome here, in exchange we ask two things. You practice within the norms of our society, and you tolerate all the religions.

If you cannot do those two things, your religion is not compatible with a free society and does not belong here.

This is eerily similar to a Catholic Church that we used to attend & where my daughter actually went to grade school.
The associate pastor really liked the little 7th & 8th grade girls
I mean he really like them & got one pregnant as a high school freshman.
A teacher blew the whistle & you guessed it, end of carrer at the school.
The good news is that the preist went to jail

re: #145 Opinionated

I wonder if they teach stuff like this:

JUDAISM MAGEN DAVID ORIGINATED IN OTHER CIVILIZATIONS

CAIRO, June 9 - Judaism's most famous symbols, Magen David and Menorah, were originated in other cultures and have nothing to do with the Jews, said an Egyptian archaeologist. According to Abdul-Rehim Rihan, head of Dahab Antiquities, some of the antiquities unearthed in Sinai Peninsula revealed that the Star of David was created as an Islamic decoration.

[Link: www.ansamed.info...]

You want proof you say. Here it is in impeccable Islamic logic:

The six-pointed star was found at the entry of Al-Gundi fort, founded by Saladin from 1183 to 1187 along the military route connecting the Suez and Aqaba gulfs.

Are you surprised? They're parasites! They've taken credit for the inventions and theories of every culture they've encountered.

re: #158 galloping granny

Ignorance knows no bounds and the depths to which the moslems will sink to steal other's culture have not been plumbed.

If your culture is incapable of creating anything of value on its own, theft becomes an honorable profession (and there are more justifications for theft in the Koran than in any printed materials outside the tax code).

re: #157 Sharmuta

May G-d Bless you, then...

re: #145 Opinionated

Dang YOU. Dang YOU I sez....dang you...all to heck.

they will get their message across to the young minds they are charged w/ indoctrinating, even if they take out some of the jihad rhetoric from their books.
they are here to spread sharia. a cleaned up text book won't stop them,

they should be shut down.

re: #155 wolfie

Here's one with a little fresh-squeezed lime.
Cuba Libre !

Salud!

OT

Very sad.

River tragedy leaves soldier, mother childless

A mother's decision to take her young sons boating with a male stranger on the swift-running Nisqually River on Thursday has left the 5-year-old son dead, the 9-year-old son missing and their father - a soldier serving in Iraq - with no children.

re: #168 Lizard by the Bay

If your culture is incapable of creating anything of value on its own, theft becomes an honorable profession (and there are more justifications for theft in the Koran than in any printed materials outside the tax code).

I suspect if you add in the hadith the volume well exceeds anything the IRS can come up with.

re: #160 wolfie

OK. I'm more of a beer and Shiraz kinda guy.

My problem with rum is that I just can't have one......

Haven't touched it for 20 years....

re: #161 galloping granny

GAZE

Yashar Koach! x10000: Giving it back to Al-Jazerra!
(must see!)

re: #171 nyc redneck

they will get their message across to the young minds they are charged w/ indoctrinating, even if they take out some of the jihad rhetoric from their books.
they are here to spread sharia. a cleaned up text book won't stop them,

they should be shut down.

The Jesuit Motto - (one of them anyway)

"Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man."

re: #176 Sharmuta

GAZE

gg wasn't trolling; just giving you the honest (but cold) answer from the legal standpoint.

re: #178 galloping granny

The Jesuit Motto - (one of them anyway)

"Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man."

The premise for both Freudian psychoanalysis, and more comicly, the 7 Up documentary series.

re: #170 WrathofG-d

Dang YOU. Dang YOU I sez....dang you...all to heck.

You can have the next one when they take credit for Gefilte fish.

re: #147 galloping granny

Goddess could add some more light here, but often in schools or medical situations an abuse report goes up the chain of command rather than being submitted directly by the teacher.

You're right--I'd report it to my superior, but I'd follow up to be sure it was reported to the authorities.

re: #3 Sharmuta

It's not surprising. To an islamist, this girl is guilty and should be punished.

Well, she needed to get several men to back up her claim, something impossible all too often in Islam.
Will Texas reevaluate their position on the FLDS and go after Muslims as well?

re: #149 opnion

Rum & Coke please.

I just got back with my TGIFriday's Strawberry Daiquiri mix.

re: #167 vapig

Are you surprised? They're parasites! They've taken credit for the inventions and theories of every culture they've encountered.

The six-pointed star does not belong solely to the Jewish religion, sorry.

i'd go right to the cops if i heard this from a child.
some regulations are not meant to be followed blindly when the fly in the face of common sense.

re: #179 Lizard by the Bay

gg wasn't trolling; just giving you the honest (but cold) answer from the legal standpoint.

I am not "cold" about it. Just spent too many years dealing with such things in a medical situation, if you can imagine a rape kit on a 6 year old. Like everyone else who works in the field, you shut the emotions off so you can deal with the issue.

"We must ignore hatred and intolerance, otherwise we will look hateful and intolerant."

People have really taken that whole "You become what you fight against" crap to heart.

re: #168 Lizard by the Bay

If your culture is incapable of creating anything of value on its own, theft becomes an honorable profession (and there are more justifications for theft in the Koran than in any printed materials outside the tax code).

Take that back. I SAID YOU TAKE THAT BACK! Congress will find out and renew their efforts to swindle us of our last dollar thanks to you.

Seriously, why does noone watch this and comment...I am flabbergasted....

This guy should be P.M. of Israel.

re: #185 Capitalist Tool

The six-pointed star does not belong solely to the Jewish religion, sorry.

And the cross does not belong only to Christians, just ask Robert Byrd, or Fjordman.

re: #186 nyc redneck

i'd go right to the cops if i heard this from a child.
some regulations are not meant to be followed blindly when the fly in the face of common sense.

If you were to hear of this in your capacity as a teacher, you'd HAVE to follow protocol. There's a reason for it that's too complicated to explain here.

re: #185 Capitalist Tool

Whom else does it represent then?

re: #190 WrathofG-d

Seriously, why does noone watch this and comment...I am flabbergasted....

This guy should be P.M. of Israel.

I just finished watching. And I sent a recommendation to Charles. I had heard about this a couple of days ago, so I'm very glad you found the clip. And I agree, he should be P.M. of Israel. I hope there are a few more like him.

re: #185 Capitalist Tool

The six-pointed star does not belong solely to the Jewish religion, sorry.

re: #188 Tigger2005

"We must ignore hatred and intolerance, otherwise we will look hateful and intolerant."

People have really taken that whole "You become what you fight against" crap to heart.

that "You become..." statement is just another misinterpretation of the great religious teachings which all say essentially that we must bear that which we hold continuously in our mind.
Sew and reap.
Karma.
The Golden Rule.
Cast your bread upon the waters and it will come back to you.

re: #193 WrathofG-d

Whom else does it represent then?

It is a very old symbol, and known well to mystics. I once listened to hours of lecture explaining the symbology of the six points, the interlocking triangles, the...
never mind.

re: #196 Capitalist Tool

I've heard that there is a big space ship quietly hovering above the Earth and we are all inhabited by aliens instead of souls....but....

re: #173 jcm

OT

Very sad.

River tragedy leaves soldier, mother childless

Yes, it is sad and I feel for the father.

The mother however, should be charged. She put her children in that position. Especially considering the current condition of the rivers around here. They are all running fast, cold and high as the snows are starting to melt.

Here in Portland a youngster died last weekend at High Rocks on the Clackamas River. Same thing.

People need to learn respect for the power of nature. It's not Disneyland out the. The pirates will kill you.

S

re: #197 WrathofG-d

I've heard that there is a big space ship quietly hovering above the Earth and we are all inhabited by aliens instead of souls....but....

Only some of us, Earthling.

Here's another sordid tale from that school, via Michelle Malkin, that I put in spin-offs earlier today, reposted here for those of you who may not have seen it but might be interested:

Remember that Saudi Academy in Fairfax, VA? Yeah, their 1999 valedictorian joined Al Qaeda.

Pod People.

re: #163 gop_patriot

Yep, didn't think of that. Scary that one bad person up the chain could keep a little girl from being helped out of an abusive situation...

I know of one girl who claims that when her report of abuse reached the police, the cop took her home, told her step dad and later returned to have sex with her. Don't know if it is true, but it makes one wonder. Cops are human and there are some bad apples. Likewise, there may be a bad apple in any chain of command, and a report can get stolen or lost sts for various reasons from collusion to bribery. Thankfully someone kept track and got it reported.

re: #200 reine.de.tout

Here's another sordid tale from that school, via Michelle Malkin, that I put in spin-offs earlier today, reposted here for those of you who may not have seen it but might be interested:

Remember that Saudi Academy in Fairfax, VA? Yeah, their 1999 valedictorian joined Al Qaeda.

And when our guys catch him, that'll be one less al Qaeda ex- Virginian to worry about.

How many students and and graduates of this "school" have managed to escape justice for felony crimes, such as rape, as a result of the fact that most of the students families hold diplomatic passports? A bunch I'll betch'a.

re: #159 MellyMel

Kind of like the woman who reported the kiddie pRon in the library?

/This PC crap sucks on toast.

Smoke what?!? What library? And was it really kiddie-pr0n?

re: #198 SusanL

Yes, it is sad and I feel for the father.

The mother however, should be charged. She put her children in that position. Especially considering the current condition of the rivers around here. They are all running fast, cold and high as the snows are starting to melt.

Here in Portland a youngster died last weekend at High Rocks on the Clackamas River. Same thing.

People need to learn respect for the power of nature. It's not Disneyland out the. The pirates will kill you.

S

Hopping into a boat with a stranger, letting the kids go without life jackets, pretty reckless.

Get a lot of city folks heading out into nature around here, sometimes the learning curve is too steep and they fall off.

Slightly OT, but still pertaining to schools:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

OCEANSIDE, Calif. - On a Monday morning last month, highway patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news: Several students had been killed in car wrecks over the weekend.

Classmates wept. Some became hysterical.

A few hours and many tears later, though, the pain turned to fury when the teenagers learned that it was all a hoax — a scared-straight exercise designed by school officials to dramatize the consequences of drinking and driving.

With teenagers, turnabout is fair play. I wonder what some of those kids have planned for the perps.............
.

re: #98 Eowyn2

Well, I disagree. The Koran has a couple of verses (I did research in my college years) which stipulate that a female under the age of three is fair game because the hyman will grow back. Yes, yes, I know, its all Islamic science.

You're flippin' kidding. Which ones?

re: #207 Tamron

I guess if such a stunt is successful in keeping kids from drinking and driving then it's okay. But I think the more immediate result would be deeper mistrust of authority figures.

re: #192 goddessoftheclassroom

If you were to hear of this in your capacity as a teacher, you'd HAVE to follow protocol. There's a reason for it that's too complicated to explain here.

if i felt the child was not going to be protected, i wouldn't hesitate to go to the authorities. i'm not good w/ protocol. especially in a bureaucratic islamic cesspool.

re: #207 Tamron

That was a stupid thing for the officers to have done because it tarnishes their reputations for honesty and reflects poorly on the justice system generally.

re: #197 WrathofG-d

I've heard that there is a big space ship quietly hovering above the Earth and we are all inhabited by aliens instead of souls....but....

I'm inhabited by spirits.

/just the rum.

re: #205 NomadOfNorad

Smoke what?!? What library? And was it really kiddie-pr0n?

Sorry to be late in responding (that's my MO unfortunately) but yes, a women did get fired for reporting a man in a public library checking out the kiddies. She got fired for not following "protocol" when her supervisor told her not to call the cops.

I can find the link if you want. Sad stuff in the US of A IMHO.

re: #192 goddessoftheclassroom

If you were to hear of this in your capacity as a teacher, you'd HAVE to follow protocol. There's a reason for it that's too complicated to explain here.

re: #210 nyc redneck

if i felt the child was not going to be protected, i wouldn't hesitate to go to the authorities. i'm not good w/ protocol. especially in a bureaucratic islamic cesspool.

Speaking from my experience as one of those children (not islam, s. abuse) if you didn't follow protocol you could be putting the child in physical danger, or turning the family into a flight risk. Goddess is right.

/In my case, I was manipulated into lying about it because it was handled terribly by authorities of all stripes. You don't know how bad it can get until you're there.

re: #205 NomadOfNorad

Here's a link:

[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]

As teachers we are mandated reporters and if your principal doesn't report it you HAVE to.

re: #214 kywrite

Seriously, what happened?

/If you don't mind me asking. If so, that's okay.

It reminds me of that old TV show: WELCOME BACK, KAMAL!

Welcome back,
Your dreams were your ticket out.

Welcome back,
To that same old place that you laughed about.

Well the names have all changed since you hung around,
But those dreams have changed to violence, bigotry and martyrdom.

Who'd have thought they'd lead ya (Who'd have thought they'd lead ya)
Here where we need ya (Here where we need ya)

Yeah we tease him a lot cause we've got him on the spot, welcome back,
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.

re: #217 MellyMel

Seriously, what happened?

/If you don't mind me asking. If so, that's okay.

email me privately and I'll tell you; my id up yonder at gmail. I don't have qualms or issues, just don't think the whole story belongs here.

re: #171 nyc redneck

they should be shut down.

I've been disgusted knowing that such a place can be operating here...

Not to sound extreme, but since they can legitimately point to other religions having schools as a way to justify their existence, might it be necessary to ban all church run schools so that it will be acceptable to shut them down as well?

Not a pretty alternative, but one could be tempted to do so in order to stop madness such as this...

re: #213 MellyMel

Sorry to be late in responding (that's my MO unfortunately) but yes, a women did get fired for reporting a man in a public library checking out the kiddies. She got fired for not following "protocol" when her supervisor told her not to call the cops.

I can find the link if you want. Sad stuff in the US of A IMHO.

Oh, I thought it was about a BOOK of purported kiddie-pr0n that was one of the books BELONGING to the library. (I've seen one too many harmless nudist books mistakenly labeled "pr0n" by clueless idiots...)

re: #215 MellyMel

Here's a link:

[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]

Oh, I see... so presumably this garbage was something they brought in with them, rather than something owned by the library.

(If it WAS something owned by the library, and it really was kiddie pr0n, then something is seriously wrong at that library.)

School? Saudis?

No doubt they have a well-attended flight academy in there too ?

re: #220 Millertime33

I've been disgusted knowing that such a place can be operating here...

Not to sound extreme, but since they can legitimately point to other religions having schools as a way to justify their existence, might it be necessary to ban all church run schools so that it will be acceptable to shut them down as well?

Not a pretty alternative, but one could be tempted to do so in order to stop madness such as this...

Can't do that. Interferes with freedom of religion and the rights of the parents.

re: #222 NomadOfNorad

Oh, I see... so presumably this garbage was something they brought in with them, rather than something owned by the library.

(If it WAS something owned by the library, and it really was kiddie pr0n, then something is seriously wrong at that library.)

No the library didn't own it, he just looked it up on their computers. But I still think she had the right and the duty to call the cops on that dirt bag.

/And not lose her job in the process. IMHO

re: #219 kywrite

email me privately and I'll tell you; my id up yonder at gmail. I don't have qualms or issues, just don't think the whole story belongs here.

Will do. Look for something from me at rcn.net.

re: #225 MellyMel

Oh, okay, now I follow. And yeah, she had every right to do what she did. I'm with you 100% on this.

I just watched Bill O'Reilly interview two grads of the Islamic Saudi Academy.

I dont recall ever being convinced, so easily and so fast about any specific issue.
Using the incidentals he brought up, and the answers the women gave, I cry Bullshit on the hysteria about it teaching Wahabism. That a school has a textbook in which the quotes he gave were excepted proves nothing. Wouldnt we want to see the context in which that book was used?
Never mind a former valedictorian may have become a terrorist.

This situation, which really could have happened in any school, public or parochial, about the five year old, aside; how about let's keep our heads and worry about the REAL Islamic Terror cells/groups, which seem to be in every midwestern city of any size.

re: #85 Sharmuta

It's not islamic to sexually molest a five year old. Now- if she had been nine, on the other hand.....

You can't have intercourse with her, but "thighing" (stimulating oneself on the thighs of the girl) is permitted. I believe that would be considered molestation under most state statutes.