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A Question for Fox News - Update: Beckel Calls Right Wing Bloggers 'Crackers'

Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:22:30 pm PDT

I just fired up Eye TV to see what’s going on, and there’s Bob Beckel on Fox News.

Something is seriously wrong at Fox. Beckel was one of the main promoters of the Michelle Obama “whitey tape” hoax. That doesn’t qualify him to be dismissed? Why is this proven liar and shameless fraud still on the air?

I’m starting to get as irritated at Fox News as your average World Can’t Wait moonbat.

OK, maybe not quite that irritated. But this is ridiculous.

Let’s play a game. Since Fox also keeps putting the grizzled old Jew-hater Pat Buchanan in front of the cameras, what would be a good name for a show featuring Buchanan and Beckel? Now that would be must-see TV - for Neanderthals.

UPDATE at 6/15/08 5:37:50 pm:

My jaw has just dropped.

Beckel had the nerve to blame the “whitey tape” smear on right wing bloggers. Wow. A new apex of hypocrisy has now been achieved.

UPDATE at 6/15/08 5:42:17 pm:

Beckel actually claimed that he tried to debunk the rumor. Here’s the video clip, courtesy of Hot Air. Sleazy, sleazy, sleazy: Disgrace: Beckel blames right-wing “crackers” for his own Michelle Obama smearmongering.

UPDATE at 6/15/08 6:08:10 pm:

A quote from Beckel tonight (hat tip: Gilly):

Let these crackers and right wingers prove it before they put it [on the internet] ...

UPDATE at 6/15/08 6:41:15 pm:

Here’s the clip:

UPDATE at 6/16/08 1:42:30 pm:

Some people seem to think I made a mistake when I wrote above that Pat Buchanan is on Fox News frequently.

Uh, no. No mistake. Pat Buchanan’s Presidential Predictions - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor

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1 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:25:04pm

If it weren't for the babes delivering the news, I'd never watch.

2 rockdad  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:25:43pm

That's not the Fox I used to know!

/O

3 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:25:46pm

They can't sack Bob. We're in the middle of a depression.

(Well that's what the rest of the MSM is saying.)

4 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:26:36pm

Breathe in, breathe out.
Grass is green, sky is blue.

(Yes, ridiculous.)

5 Inquisitive  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:26:43pm

What is happening to Fox? Really thought they were so much better than others. Now I just don't know anymore.

6 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:27:07pm

If a tape or some substantiation cannot be produced, some explanation given, how then is he any better than Rather?

7 Opilio  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:27:18pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

If it weren't for the babes delivering the news, I'd never watch.

How does MM feel about that?

8 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:27:47pm

They lost me when Brittney, Lindsey and Paris were their main news stories. I mean, good grief! We have a war going on and that is what they were fascinated with?

9 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:28:11pm

Remember when the newsy folks just came on the air and told ya what happened, then shut the f*ck up?

10 Macker  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:28:11pm

Didn't Huckabee sign up with Fox News also?

11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:28:55pm

Fox is becoming the network equivalent of "Current Affair" or "Inside edition"

12 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:28:57pm

I don't watch tv news, even FOX.

My wife turns it on occasionally and I have to leave the room, usually to go to the range and shoot.

13 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:05pm
14 Dan G.  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:07pm

I haven't watched them in years. Shills are shills.

15 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:11pm

re: #7 Opilio

How does MM feel about that?

As long as I come home for dinner...

16 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:26pm

I watch HGTV.

17 Thanos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:51pm

It's dog eat dog in the media business -- while Fox's share is the best, it's still a diminishing market as there are so many alternatives now. They've gone full tabloid mode and don't seem to care anymore.

18 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:54pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

If it weren't for the babes delivering the news, I'd never watch.

I have a TV. It's in the corner. I plugged it in a couple of months ago to see if it still worked. It did. I turned it off. I wonder if it's still plugged in.

19 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:29:58pm

re: #16 mama winger

I watch HGTV.

and baseball.

20 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:30:29pm
Why is this proven liar and shameless fraud still on the air?

They don't do news any more.
Natalie Holloway, Lacy Peterson and other tabloid stuff.

I hate the pukes at MSNBC, but 9 times out of 10 if you turn them on they are talking (misguided) politics when Fox is talking about runaway bride and missing blonde coed.


Beckel ought to go over to MSNBC. He will fit right in and he can talk politics

21 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:30:44pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

If it weren't for the babes delivering the news, I'd never watch.

They do have the hottest women in news.

22 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:15pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fox is becoming the network equivalent of "Current Affair" or "Inside edition"

Depends on if they keep rerunning the story about a Japanese reality show that did things like sneaking heavy metal bands into people's bedrooms.

23 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:15pm

I'm all for starting our own political party in America.

Lizardicans.

24 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:29pm

I do watch Fox and Friends in the Morning. I like those three.

25 Thanos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:38pm

I will chime in and say that Neil Cavuto still seems sane.

26 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:38pm

re: #9 Noam Sayin'

Remember when the newsy folks just came on the air and told ya what happened, then shut the f*ck up?

YES! I DO remember that! Now there's just a bunch of commentary shows. Infotainment!

27 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:45pm

I kind of laughed that Beckel was the straw that broke the camel's back on a network featuring Geraldo

28 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:31:52pm

re: #25 Thanos

I will chime in and say that Neil Cavuto still seems sane.

Yes - I like him too. And the Judge.

29 DoubleU  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:32:02pm

The thing that makes me larf about Beckel is while he is in the dual or triple boxes, just as they announce his name, he rolls his eyes, looks down and shakes his head. EVERY TIME. It will crack you up when you notice.

30 Beobachter  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:32:12pm

re: #23 republic

I'm all for starting our own political party in America.

Lizardicans.

That does have a nice ring to it.

31 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:32:26pm

And Britt Hume.

Okay - I'm done now. LOL

32 gman  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:32:53pm

re: #8 vapig

They lost me when Brittney, Lindsey and Paris were their main news stories. I mean, good grief! We have a war going on and that is what they were fascinated with?

Bubble Gum Pop music meets Bubble Gum News Network

33 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:33:08pm

Brit Hume is good. That's about it.

34 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:33:38pm
35 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:33:39pm

but wait, Laura Ingraham is getting a show. I might start watching that

36 Beobachter  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:33:47pm

re: #31 mama winger

And Britt Hume.

Okay - I'm done now. LOL

I was just gonna ask about Brit, myself.

37 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:33:48pm

re: #25 Thanos

I will chime in and say that Neil Cavuto still seems sane.

Yes - I like him and at least his show is a commentary show. It's not disguised as news.

38 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:33:57pm

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

39 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:09pm

re: #21 NJDhockeyfan

They do have the hottest women in news.

Which should lead one to the ultimate conclusion. If they were a legitimate news outlet, would they need this many hotties on staff?

Sure, I'll catch Brit Hume and the crew occasionally. But I truly get my news and information from the internets - mostly you guys and our associated allies.

40 Terp Mole  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:15pm
Why is this proven liar and shameless fraud still on the air?

Why don't increasingly regular campus hate hoaxes have consequences?

/troothiness trumps truth

41 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:18pm

re: #35 Shug

but wait, Laura Ingraham is getting a show. I might start watching that

I listen to her on XM radio. She's very good.

42 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:24pm

What happened to John Gibson?

43 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:38pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

The Nazi/Che Show

44 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:47pm

re: #42 The Shadow Do

What happened to John Gibson?

They axed him.

45 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:34:53pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Passing Something.

46 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:02pm

re: #44 mama winger

why?

47 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:10pm

You've got to be kidding me.

Now Beckel is blaming the smear on RIGHT-WING BLOGGERS.

48 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:12pm

re: #44 mama winger

They axed him.

Why?

49 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:13pm

re: #35 Shug

but wait, Laura Ingraham is getting a show. I might start watching that

She's good!

50 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:19pm

re: #38 Charles

Don't give them any Ideas, Charles!

51 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:25pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Well, Beavis and Butthead is taken...

52 DoubleU  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:46pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

We need a new Sanity Party. Sanitize the political process!

The very silly party didn't do well.

53 snowcrash  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:46pm

It's not just the topics but the flashy graphics and music make Fox seem tabloid-y. Still like Hume and Cavuto but forget Geraldo and vanSustren. Yuck

54 Quilly Mammoth  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:47pm

If Fox News refused to air every political hack who lied about the opposition they would have a hard time filling 24 hours up. Sorta.

The beauty of blogging, Charles, is that you can post as much or as little as you like and you don't have to post about things that you think are shaky...just as you chose to do with the first rumors of the "whitey tape".

55 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:47pm

re: #46 reine.de.tout

why?

Ratings I think. They went to Bill Hemmer and what's her perky name.

56 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:35:49pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

American Bund Stand

57 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:06pm

That is absolutely unreal. My jaw has fallen and I can't pick it up.

58 Sloppy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:11pm

Mama Winger --

I have virtually no interest in baseball, but when I'm channel-surfing and come across the Cubs, I watch for a while and root for them. You can take credit for that.

59 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:20pm
60 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:27pm

re: #56 Shug

American Bund Stand

LOL!

61 nyc redneck  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:30pm

re: #35 Shug

but wait, Laura Ingraham is getting a show. I might start watching that

yes, laura hasn't sold out.

62 DoubleU  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:36pm

re: #47 Charles

Just shake your head and look down.

63 Terp Mole  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:43pm
re: #38 CharlesTonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

The Troothy Report (w/ Beckel & Buchanan)

64 Kitty  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:49pm

How about a show called

Premature Articulation

65 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:55pm

re: #47 Charles

You've got to be kidding me.

Now Beckel is blaming the smear on RIGHT-WING BLOGGERS.

Of course, nothing the left does surprises me.

If Barack Hussein Obama murdered someone, and was charged and found guilty, it wouldn't change his popularity one bit.

Nothing, absolutely nothing surprises me anymore.

66 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:57pm

re: #47 Charles

You've got to be kidding me.

Now Beckel is blaming the smear on RIGHT-WING BLOGGERS.

Seems to be a common theme among the news outlets. Hot Air had this today:

Again: ABC blames conservative bloggers for the Michelle Obama tape rumor

67 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:36:59pm

re: #58 Sloppy

Mama Winger --

I have virtually no interest in baseball, but when I'm channel-surfing and come across the Cubs, I watch for a while and root for them. You can take credit for that.

Oh how AWESOME of you! I love that ! {MWAH} !

68 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:37:09pm

Charles, you need to start the Lizard News Network (LNN).

69 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:37:11pm

re: #57 Charles

That is absolutely unreal. My jaw has fallen and I can't pick it up.

It will grow back won't it?

70 Intrepid  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:37:37pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

How about "Bucackle"?

71 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:37:53pm

re: #44 mama winger

They axed him.

Do you know why? I also heard they canned E.D. Hill. I liked Gibson better than Hill, but I was just wondering why?

Is it some sort of PC thing?

72 Thanos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:37:54pm

re: #57 Charles

That is absolutely unreal. My jaw has fallen and I can't pick it up.

I'm surprised he hasn't tossed in talk radio as well.

73 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:37:58pm

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey

I still want to see Ben Stein and Al Franken doing a Hannity/Colmes-type show.

Who could resist watching Franken/Stein?

That's Fronkensteen!

74 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:38:13pm

re: #70 Intrepid

sound like bukakke.

probably about as much fun also

75 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:38:18pm

re: #57 Charles

That is absolutely unreal. My jaw has fallen and I can't pick it up.

T-shirt slogan of the year.

76 vxbush  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:38:46pm

re: #68 Tigger2005

Charles, you need to start the Lizard News Network (LNN).

Haven't you heard of Pajamas Media?

77 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:38:54pm

re: #57 Charles

That is absolutely unreal. My jaw has fallen and I can't pick it up.


Charles, what is coming yet will be unbelievable still, just keep doing the most outstanding things that you do.

78 joecitizen  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:38:56pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Pat Bob Nazi Pants.

79 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:38:58pm

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey
re: #57 Charles


Me. Easily.

80 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:16pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Heckel and Jeckel...but not as funny

81 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:22pm

re: #75 Tigger2005

T-shirt slogan of the year.

That actually should be a rotating title.

82 Intrepid  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:26pm

re: #74 Shug

:-0 Heh...lol!

83 Lynn B.  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:28pm

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal

[Link: www.forbes.com...]

84 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:28pm

re: #71 vapig

Do you know why? I also heard they canned E.D. Hill. I liked Gibson better than Hill, but I was just wondering why?

Is it some sort of PC thing?

I think they were shifting some shows around during the priamry season, and they stuck Bill Hemmer and what's her smile in there, and ratings improved over John Gibson. Pity. I liked his show - it wqs better before they stuck him with that girl tho IMO.

ED Hill is getting a different slot I think.

85 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:42pm

Sorry, that last quote should not have included Charles' quote.

86 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:39:55pm

re: #44 mama winger

They axed him.

Fools

87 Beobachter  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:01pm

re: #68 Tigger2005

Charles, you need to start the Lizard News Network (LNN).

Charles has already gone into the news aggregation business with the spinoff links. That's a very good start.

88 Amy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:01pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

Fascist Rumormongering Hour?

89 mean Gene  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:08pm

Sad, really sad.
But Fox News always had a tabloid sector and a news sector.
I could never stand the tabloid stuff and just go listen to music.
But it seems that since the Saudi prince bought so much Fox that he could get the French BBQ's disassociated from Muslims that the tabloid aspect is ascendant.
Can Fox survive being owned by Muslims?
I doubt it.

90 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:09pm

Is Bob Beckel the fat bastard in the suspenders?

Hey, dude. Loosen the tie and dump the suspenders. It's Sunday afternoon -- and 2008!

91 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:15pm

re: #16 mama winger

I watch HGTV.

/no Green channel?

92 Bill Amos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:21pm

Its Rupert Murdock he is trying to buy Obama off. Rupert has always worked the angles to keep making money.

Really wish there was a conservative new group that doesnt change colors when money becomes a matter.

93 anotherindyfilmguy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:25pm

re: #57 Charles

Lawyers plus libel for NYT and slander for MSM talking heads = a nice case of stfu for lying morons...

94 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:41pm

re: #84 mama winger

I think they were shifting some shows around during the priamry season, and they stuck Bill Hemmer and what's her smile in there, and ratings improved over John Gibson. Pity. I liked his show - it wqs better before they stuck him with that girl tho IMO.

ED Hill is getting a different slot I think.

I've seen ED - she does have a different slot, her own show during the day, and I like it.

95 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:56pm

re: #84 mama winger

I heard something about a controversial remark E.D. Hill made a couple of days ago, but was not really listening. Maybe it was that.

96 Pastorius  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:40:57pm

So, this whole "whitey tape" thing may have been a conspiracy by the left against righty bloggers?

No, probably not, now that I think about it.

They're probably just spinning it now in the aftermath. Their ploy didn't work, so now instead of having it come down on Hilary, and thus tainting the Dem party, they are going to blame it on rabid conservatives.

97 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:41:25pm
name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan

Beckel and the Schmeckel

98 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:41:46pm

Invest in firearms and ammunition and practice, practice, practice.

This country and this world are going to make the insanity of today, look like the good ole days, very soon.

99 ParisParamus  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:42:12pm

Didn't FNC also come up with the supposed "black power" salute between the Obamas?

Geez, it's bad enough that FNC is the reponse when I mention how biased the MSM is; now I need to dis FNC as well? Pathetic.

100 kansas  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:42:17pm

re: #47 Charles

You've got to be kidding me.

Now Beckel is blaming the smear on RIGHT-WING BLOGGERS.

That's the strategy. It'll work too.

101 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:42:41pm

re: #95 CapeCoddah

She called the Obama fist bump with Michell a "terrorist fist jab".
She's out.

102 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:42:41pm

Fox is still better than others, they have Hannity and O'Reilly and they report positive news about the war on terror. I was highly disappointed though when Rupert Murdoch said Obama is going to win by landslide.

103 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:01pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)


Fascists-R-Us

104 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:06pm

Wonder how long before this thread ends up on one of the Lefty blogs...

105 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:24pm

re: #101 SasquatchOnSteroids

That was it!

106 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:43pm

re: #101 SasquatchOnSteroids

She called the Obama fist bump with Michell a "terrorist fist jab".
She's out.

And your point being?

107 FightingBack  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:47pm

re: #51 OldLineTexan

Well, Beavis and Butthead is taken...

How about Butthead&Butthead?

108 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:53pm

re: #101 SasquatchOnSteroids

She called the Obama fist bump with Michell a "terrorist fist jab".
She's out.

Is she really?

109 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:43:54pm

Cross your fingers for ROCCO !

110 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:06pm

re: #104 Noam Sayin'

Wonder how long before this thread ends up on one of the Lefty blogs...

Fuck the left!

111 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:09pm

I just posted the video clip above. Unbelievable that he would try to deny he was promoting the rumor.

112 Syrah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:09pm

re: #47 Charles

You've got to be kidding me.

Now Beckel is blaming the smear on RIGHT-WING BLOGGERS.

I don't have a TV.

Whats the blow by blow?

Is anyone calling him out on that lie?

113 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:14pm

re: #107 FightingBack

How about Butthead&Butthead?

Buchis & Beckhead.

114 Terp Mole  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:18pm

Beckel and Buchanan shared seats on CNN's Crossfire during the Bubbah era.

Call this show FOXarson w/ Bob and Pat.

115 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:21pm

re: #107 FightingBack

How about Butthead&Butthead?

How about Butthead and Uberbutthead?

116 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:27pm

re: #99 ParisParamus

Didn't FNC also come up with the supposed "black power" salute between the Obamas?

Geez, it's bad enough that FNC is the reponse when I mention how biased the MSM is; now I need to dis FNC as well? Pathetic.

See 101; not FNC, one ignernt on FNC.

117 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:27pm

re: #106 republic

My point being that's what she said.
Anything else ?

118 Syrah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:34pm

re: #111 Charles

Thanks.

119 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:45pm

re: #106 republic

see my #95

120 forrest  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:44:49pm
what would be a good name for a show featuring Buchanan and Beckel?

"I'll have a BLT, Whitey"

121 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:45:40pm

re: #117 SasquatchOnSteroids

Nope.

122 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:45:55pm

re: #109 Shug

Cross your fingers for ROCCO !

What is with that dumbass beltbuckle?

123 kay1212  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:46:01pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

The B Team

124 kansas  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:46:06pm

re: #112 Syrah

I don't have a TV.

Whats the blow by blow?

Is anyone calling him out on that lie?

It would require a journalist who actually does some research. These twits probably don't even watch their own network.

125 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:46:06pm

re: #117 SasquatchOnSteroids

My point being that's what she said.
Anything else ?


What's wrong with what she said?

I mean, a Democrat plant can ask John McCain if he's ever called his wife a c#nt.

126 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:46:16pm

re: #122 The Shadow Do

Mercedes?

127 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:46:41pm

call it the 3 p's show pat pukeanan and putz

128 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:46:55pm

re: #84 mama winger

I think they were shifting some shows around during the priamry season, and they stuck Bill Hemmer and what's her smile in there, and ratings improved over John Gibson. Pity. I liked his show - it wqs better before they stuck him with that girl tho IMO.

ED Hill is getting a different slot I think.

Thanks, Mama! Pity about Gibson - I liked his show too. He also wrote a book called "Hating America" - it was pretty good. A fast read.

129 Egfrow  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:47:02pm

We have to face the fact that the MSM is just the MSM. You can't tame a jackal and expect not to get eaten when your back is turned. It doesn't matter how grooming you do to it. Fox has been pumping up McCain all during the campaign. Rupert now states that Obama is inevitable as president. All that's going on now is that Fox is now discrediting core conservatism by coddling RHINOS.

130 Thanos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:47:11pm
131 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:47:18pm

re: #125 republic

The rules are different. See the last thread.

132 Sloppy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:47:55pm

Mama Winger --

In return for my occasional interest in the Cubs, you might spare a good thought for my Nebraska Huskers in this rebuilding year.

133 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:08pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Clunk & Bunk, the tapless brothers

134 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:09pm

re: #131 CapeCoddah

Meaning political correctness.

135 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:11pm

Did anyone call Beckel on his lie? I really hate that when they have someone tell a whopper and then just let lie go unanswered. Fox knows that it was Larry Johnson who started the talk about the video tape, because they reported that too.

136 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:19pm

re: #126 Shug

Mercedes?

OK, Go Rocco!

137 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:20pm

Voyage to the Bottom with the B's

138 FightingBack  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:27pm

re: #113 Noam Sayin'

Buchis & Beckhead.


Bupkis&Beckerhead

139 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:45pm

Whitey Mighty Anti-Semity

We'll get some anime for the titles and whatnot...

140 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:48:47pm

re: #131 CapeCoddah

The rules are different. See the last thread.

I don't, nor will I ever live by the lefts rules, which is why I practice at the range often.

141 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:49:16pm

re: #130 Thanos

/Musharraf aptly responded with, "You and what army?"

Okay. Reading your link, now.

142 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:49:45pm

Tiger make or miss?

I say make

143 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:49:49pm

OT, 10 minutes until Game 5, Go Celtics!

144 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:50:09pm

re: #98 republic

Invest in firearms and ammunition and practice, practice, practice.

This country and this world are going to make the insanity of today, look like the good ole days, very soon.

I'm afraid so.

It's not like the insanity of the 60's and the early 70's, followed by the Carter years. The vast majority of Americans were still normal and patriotic and understood basic American principles then, and there were still lots of members of The Greatest Generation around to keep us on an even keel. We elected Reagan and he pulled us back from the brink.

I'm afraid there's no strong steadying adult influence anymore. Even many of those who claim to be "conservative" really aren't. Conservative means sensible, and there's no sense in many of Fox's recent decisions. Or in the way many Republicans in general act, for that matter.

"Things fall apart...the center cannot hold..."

145 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:50:36pm

re: #101 SasquatchOnSteroids

She called the Obama fist bump with Michell a "terrorist fist jab".
She's out.

THAT was it! She's out, huh? Why not put her on an apology tour? The lefties get to stay in their jobs no matter what they say. Anybody hear Overbite lately? The dud is a menace! He actually makes me seethe!

146 funky chicken  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:51:18pm

I can't wait to see what Rupert Murdoch has in mind for the Wall Street Journal.

/s

147 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:51:23pm

re: #142 Shug

Tiger make or miss?

I say make

Its in

148 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:51:34pm

re: #145 vapig

Yes, but, having to be politically correct only applies to the right.

149 Inquisitive  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:51:39pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)


Trooth and Fiction

150 Thanos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:52:07pm

re: #141 Noam Sayin'

/Musharraf aptly responded with, "You and what army?"

Okay. Reading your link, now.

The Afghanistan Army gets joked about a lot, but they've been carrying most of the water in Afghanistan the past year with some aid from us. They are also the parties 80 % responsible for kicking the Taliban's ass in the aftermath of 9/11 - we really didn't have a lot of force there.

151 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:52:18pm

PUKEANAN & PUTZ

152 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:52:44pm

Told ya so. Its in.

153 Thanos  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:52:46pm

Whoops, father's day thing coming up, being pulled away..

154 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:01pm

re: #146 funky chicken

I can't wait to see what Rupert Murdoch has in mind for the Wall Street Journal.

/Paris Hilton will get her own column

155 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:02pm
156 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:11pm

re: #145 vapig

THAT was it! She's out, huh? Why not put her on an apology tour? The lefties get to stay in their jobs no matter what they say. Anybody hear Overbite lately? The dud is a menace! He actually makes me seethe!

They've got her doing desk duty, from what I've read.

157 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:14pm

Playoff!

/Rocco vs. Tiger

158 Paul  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:25pm

I'm getting the suspicion that many conservative bloggers were the victims of a Dem "rope a dope" scam. Put out a damaging rumor that will spread throughout the Internet then, after the rumor is proved false, blame the people who reported and discussed the rumor as the source of the rumor. Viola! Next on MSNBC right wing bloggers smear Obama!

159 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:27pm

re: #150 Thanos

The Afghanistan Army gets joked about a lot, but they've been carrying most of the water in Afghanistan the past year with some aid from us. They are also the parties 80 % responsible for kicking the Taliban's ass in the aftermath of 9/11 - we really didn't have a lot of force there.

Nancy Pelalegosi says it's the Iranians who are making things better.

/

160 funky chicken  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:53:28pm

Buchanan and Beckel can have their own show, and call it "The MDS Hour."

It'll be a big hit with lunatic Birchers and Code Pinkers.

161 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:54:07pm

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

I have never seen Beckel ere now.

It is amazing how quickly he manages to convey the impression of a dyspeptic, flatulent gasbag.

A master of his profession.

162 nyc redneck  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:54:20pm

it's so disappointing to feel like the people you counted on are going wobbly and caving to the pressure of pc politics and money.
where is the long term thinking. where's the patriotism.
what's the price for that?

163 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:54:28pm

re: #154 Noam Sayin'

I know someone who's working there. They're shaking in their shoes - the front page editorial group was broken up, and heaven knows what else is coming. Stories are now limited to 2500 words...none of it's good.

164 FightingBack  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:54:48pm

re: #151 yochanan

PUKEANAN & PUTZ

"Where's The Remote?"

165 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:54:50pm

re: #162 nyc redneck

it's so disappointing to feel like the people you counted on are going wobbly and caving to the pressure of pc politics and money.
where is the long term thinking. where's the patriotism.
what's the price for that?


It died after WWII, for many.

166 vapig  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:54:56pm

re: #156 SasquatchOnSteroids

They've got her doing desk duty, from what I've read.

Desk duty? Oh! I get it - they're just waiting for this to die down some before they put her out again.

167 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:55:30pm

Somebody should check on Charles, does he need Oxygen?

168 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:55:45pm

Who will all the leftist idiots turn to when the crap hits the fan?

Heh.

169 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:55:45pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

The 800 (lb.) Club

170 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:55:53pm
171 calvin coolidge  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:55:57pm

When I want nonfiction, I watch reality shows. When I want fiction, I watch the news.

172 Syrah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:56:00pm

re: #167 CapeCoddah

Somebody should check on Charles, does he need Oxygen?

Or Nitrogen?

173 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:56:03pm

re: #167 CapeCoddah

LOL, still picking up his jaw ?

174 mean Gene  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:56:03pm

Worse than any ''whitey'' tape is self-centered Michelle's thesis.
Me, me, me.
How I feel, the chip on MY shoulder is HUGE!
Yes, Beckle was promoting the existence of a ''whitey tape," but now we need to go to real and substantive things.
That thesis.
Barack's associates.
Barack's lies and waffles and disloyalties.

175 Kong_an563  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:56:58pm

I was watching when "Uncle Bob" mentioned 'the rumor' that he didn't want to talk about, but then when ahead and talked about it, making it sound like it could be true.

Then tonight, I caught the opening when "Uncle Bob" tried to deny he was spreading the rumor by talking about it, and blamed Limbaugh for talking about what he (Beckel) had said.

That kinda crap is just plain insulting. He really has to think people are stupid. Its just offensive.

176 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:57:01pm

OK, I've reattached my jaw.

177 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:57:52pm

re: #176 Charles

Good - you'd look very odd without a mandible.

178 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:02pm
what would be a good name for a show featuring Buchanan and Beckel?


My idea would get deleted.

179 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:02pm

How about SHIESSKOFF UND UBERSHIESSKOFF?

180 MrArchieBunker  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:09pm

Mr. Beckel got himself into a bit of a fix a while back. Apparently, it has something do with call girls and extortion. Read for yourself...[Link: www.aim.org...]

181 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:10pm

re: #176 Charles

We were gettin' worried..

182 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:12pm

re: #111 Charles

I just posted the video clip above. Unbelievable that he would try to deny he was promoting the rumor.

Charles -

Oh Well - at least you have ME and Pat Caddell on your side. Beckel still makes the Shekel from the Democratic Party. When that situation ceases, WATCH OUT DEMOCRATIC PARTY! His time will come as well.

-S-

183 Dalibama  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:17pm

re: #92 Bill Amos

Its Rupert Murdock he is trying to buy Obama off. Rupert has always worked the angles to keep making money.

Murdock has gushed over Obama calling him a rock-star. He loves Obama's education policies (which are essentlally NEA boilerplate)

184 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:27pm

re: #163 Dianna

That's really too bad. I'm lucky enough to get the WSJ delivered to my office, paid for by my company. The paper leans a little left, save for the editorial page, but it's the last decent source of print journalism.

185 Catttt  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:32pm

My jaw dropped too, Charles, when Mr. Beckel originally put credence in this stupid rumor live on Fox. At that time, I also heard the two hosts' jaws hit their desk, followed by gasps.

I was actually shocked at that time, but mostly I was all weirded out because of the original source being a proven liar and generally creepy dude.

Someone should do a dated what he said/what he said video for youtube. Hmmmm.

186 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:40pm
187 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:58:53pm

re: #151 yochanan

PUKEANAN & PUTZ

yeah, I like it.
Can't decide which one is more melodious, though.

Pat Pukeannan and Putz or
Pukeannan and Putz
Yep. Your short version is better. I can see/hear the promo ads now!

188 FightingBack  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:59:33pm

re: #179 The Other Les

How about SHIESSKOFF UND UBERSHIESSKOFF?

Good.
Shiesskoff& Uber Alles Shiesskoff

189 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:59:36pm

re: #165 republic

It died after WWII, for many.

Oh, it lasted for a while after that. We couldn't have faced down the Soviet Union without it. It took balls for us to look into the teeth of the Soviet nuclear arsenal and not blink. But today's "conservatives" did not go through the strengthening, refining experiences and sacrifices of the Great Depression and WW2, and so many of them are buckling under the slightest pressure.

190 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 5:59:39pm

re: #176 Charles

OK, I've reattached my jaw.

Well good. Growing it back would be a bitch.

191 Syrah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:00:15pm
Let’s play a game. Since Fox also keeps putting the grizzled old Jew-hater Pat Buchanan in front of the cameras, what would be a good name for a show featuring Buchanan and Beckel?

I would prefer that they just call it Canceled.

192 PSGInfinity  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:00:54pm

How about "Around the Bend - with Bob Beckel and Pat Buchanan"?

193 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:00:57pm

re: #191 Syrah

or Never Was.

194 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:01:00pm

i think the guy should be called PUKEANAN from now on

195 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:01:09pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

I used to love Heckle and Jeckle. How about Beckel and Buchle?

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

I used to love Heckle and Jeckle. How about Beckel and Buchle?

"Buzz" -

Obviously YOU are on the Paath - at least according to Pink Floyd.

-S-

196 vxbush  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:01:10pm

Q: Why is [Link: www.newsbusters.org...] not linking to the official Newsbusters blog? I'm getting a page from Network Solutions.

197 Bacchus's daddy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:01:31pm

I used to watch Fox regularly, not much anymore. Beckel (with Juan Williams) was always one of my favorite "lefties"- meaning, someone I disagreed with, but did not dislike. To clarify, I feel like I have honest disagreements with the above two, but could never have an "honest" disagreement with, say, Leahy, Schumer, Dean or McCauliffe, because there's nothing remotely "honest" about them. I haven't seen Beckel in a while, but this video doesn't necessarily change my opinion- he says he is "scared" about the tape and that it might be "big"- perhaps he doesn't know the original "purported source"- then again if he does, and he's lying about it, that would be serious points against him.

198 nyc redneck  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:01:49pm

re: #168 republic

Who will all the leftist idiots turn to when the crap hits the fan?

Heh.

i've often wondered that myself. they have no idea what they are in for. useful idiots are not held in high regard by the enemy.

199 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:02:18pm

re: #158 Paul

I'm getting the suspicion that many conservative bloggers were the victims of a Dem "rope a dope" scam. Put out a damaging rumor that will spread throughout the Internet then, after the rumor is proved false, blame the people who reported and discussed the rumor as the source of the rumor. Viola! Next on MSNBC right wing bloggers smear Obama!

I believe that's exactly what it was. I got numerous emails (from addresses I'd never seen before) trying to get me to post about the "whitey tape," starting as soon as Larry Johnson floated the rumor.

The media never seem to be interested in investigating this kind of stuff. I wonder why?

200 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:02:26pm

patritism for liberals died during viet nam but then i was never a liberal.
to me liberals were the guys who left the room when the fight started.

201 gilly  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:02:39pm

He said "right wing bloggers and CRACKERS" I just about fell out of my chair and even squeeked "what!" Did anyone else notice the "CRACKER" part? He is talking about smears and he spouts a slur! No one on the show blinked!

202 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:03:10pm

re: #197 Bacchus's daddy

I used to watch Fox regularly, not much anymore. Beckel (with Juan Williams) was always one of my favorite "lefties"- meaning, someone I disagreed with, but did not dislike. To clarify, I feel like I have honest disagreements with the above two, but could never have an "honest" disagreement with, say, Leahy, Schumer, Dean or McCauliffe, because there's nothing remotely "honest" about them. I haven't seen Beckel in a while, but this video doesn't necessarily change my opinion- he says he is "scared" about the tape and that it might be "big"- perhaps he doesn't know the original "purported source"- then again if he does, and he's lying about it, that would be serious points against him.

When you go on national television and talk about a bombshell rumor you've heard, you are promoting it.

203 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:03:38pm
what would be a good name for a show featuring Buchanan and Beckel?

How about The Nazi & the Liar Show?

204 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:03:58pm

beckel is just a hack, Jaun Williams i think has some class.

205 JarvisW  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:04:13pm
#103 republic 6/15/2008 5:43:01 pm PDT

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)


Fascists-R-Us


How about Fact-less and Fascists?

206 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:04:32pm
207 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:04:44pm

re: #196 vxbush

Still?

208 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:04:45pm

re: #189 Tigger2005

Oh, it lasted for a while after that. We couldn't have faced down the Soviet Union without it. It took balls for us to look into the teeth of the Soviet nuclear arsenal and not blink. But today's "conservatives" did not go through the strengthening, refining experiences and sacrifices of the Great Depression and WW2, and so many of them are buckling under the slightest pressure.

See Korean and Vietnam Wars.

209 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:05:36pm

I'm watching this again. It's unbelievable.

re: #201 gilly

He said "right wing bloggers and CRACKERS" I just about fell out of my chair and even squeeked "what!" Did anyone else notice the "CRACKER" part? He is talking about smears and he spouts a slur! No one on the show blinked!

He didn't say "crackers."

210 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:05:37pm

re: #196 vxbush

works for me...

211 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:06:02pm

re: #198 nyc redneck

i've often wondered that myself. they have no idea what they are in for. useful idiots are not held in high regard by the enemy.


They're the first to be killed.

212 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:06:02pm

re: #168 republic

Who will all the leftist idiots turn to when the crap hits the fan?

Heh.

republic -

Perhaps.in their wriggling pain they will turn to G-d. The question is whether G-d will listen.

-S-

213 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:06:27pm

I take that back.

He DID say "crackers."

214 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:06:44pm

re: #196 vxbush

Q: Why is [Link: www.newsbusters.org...] not linking to the official Newsbusters blog? I'm getting a page from Network Solutions.


I got the same thing all day today.

215 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:07:01pm
Registered since: Aug 20, 2004 at 9:30 am
No. of comments posted: 45

Hmm...

216 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:07:22pm

re: #213 Charles

No, shit?

217 kynna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:07:58pm

Bob Beckel is as dishonest as they come. If his lips are moving he's lying. He's been involved in just about ever shifty maneuver the Clintons ever pulled.

In any case, I don't watch Fox anymore. I kept missing Brit Hume and since he was the only person on the channel I wanted to see (I just don't watch Sunday news, sorry Chris Wallace), I just blew the whole thing off.

I have a warm place in my heart for them for putting Charles Krauthamer on TV though. His commentary is wonderful.

218 vxbush  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:03pm

re: #207 Dianna

Still?

I take it this means it was unavailable earlier today/this weekend?

219 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:03pm

re: #201 gilly

He said "right wing bloggers and CRACKERS" I just about fell out of my chair and even squeeked "what!" Did anyone else notice the "CRACKER" part? He is talking about smears and he spouts a slur! No one on the show blinked!

Are you sure?

220 sandspur  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:05pm

uhh...Democrat!

/(you knew I was a snake when you picked me up)

221 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:15pm

re: #213 Charles

wow.

222 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:34pm

re: #213 Charles

We should send e-mail protests. I wonder if they will "E.D. Hill" him for that, I doubt it, he is a lefty, and as I pointed out, political correctness, therefore, does not apply to him.

223 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:43pm

re: #199 Charles

The media never seem to be interested in investigating this kind of stuff. I wonder why?


That means looking at reality as it really is. That's not what journalists are trained for in this age. Reality is to be rewritten to give the appearance of legitimacy to Socialist cause. And if a factual statement is actually made it is for the purpose of buttressing a bigger lie.

That's my take on it.

224 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:48pm

He said it. I just watched it again to make sure.

The quote is now added above.

225 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:08:57pm

re: #212 Dr. Shalit

republic -

Perhaps.in their wriggling pain they will turn to G-d. The question is whether G-d will listen.

-S-


God would be the last thing on their minds.

I'm sure the last thing on their minds would be the ACLU or some other leftist kook org.

226 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:09:08pm

re: #215 Noam Sayin'

Who?

227 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:09:49pm

re: #216 Noam Sayin'

No, shit?


Does it surprise anyone that the left can say anything they want?

228 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:01pm

PUKEANAN & PUTZ gets it about right

229 MandyManners  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:08pm

He's Soros' man.

230 Maximu§  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:11pm

Fox News........~spits~

231 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:19pm

re: #218 vxbush

Earlier today. However, when I clicked your link, I got there with no problems.

232 nyc redneck  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:28pm

re: #211 republic

They're the first to be killed.

of course they would. they are good at over estimating their importance and bad at sensing life threatening situations.

233 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:40pm

re: #213 Charles

I think Fox needs Stinky's services. Does he do outside work, Charles?

234 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:10:49pm

re: #226 CapeCoddah

Probably false alarm.

235 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:11:11pm

The funniest thing, is that Bob Beckel calls himself a Christian.

Boy will he be surprised.

236 WhiteRasta  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:11:26pm

re: #227 republic

That's Freedom Of Speech, dude.

As long as the moonbats are barking......

237 Bacchus's daddy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:11:40pm

re: #202 Charles

When you go on national television and talk about a bombshell rumor you've heard, you are promoting it.

Fair enough, and I think you've seen more of his recent TV appearances than I probably have. I just always thought he seemed like a nice enough dude, but after following the link from #180, I now understand why he has had incentive to be a congenial fellow (thanking his lucky stars that he even has a forum (and monetary compensation) for his opinions).

238 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:11:58pm

re: #232 nyc redneck

of course they would. they are good at over estimating their importance and bad at sensing life threatening situations.

They have no will to fight to save their lives.

Any of them.

239 sandspur  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:12:02pm

re: #41 mama winger

Mama, what XM channel is she on? I didn't know she was on anything but AM!

240 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:12:09pm

Now I can't even find my jaw.

Crackers.

241 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:12:50pm

Good [expletive deleted] morning to everyone.

I see the madness continues...

242 WhiteRasta  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:12:56pm

re: #238 republic

Hoping the Croc will eat them last.....

243 Yankee Division Son  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:02pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Operation Barbarossa.

244 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:08pm

re: #240 Charles

Well, at least it wasn't, "pinky."

245 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:15pm

Beckel is one of those white liberals who thinks he's

down with the black man

.

so he's allowed to say crackers because in his mind he's a brother

246 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:27pm

re: #240 Charles

Someone get Charles a drink AND some Oxygen

247 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:33pm

re: #240 Charles

Now I can't even find my jaw.

Crackers.

RACSIT!1111

/braces

248 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:33pm

re: #240 Charles

Now I can't even find my jaw.

Crackers.

Charles, the left can say and do anything they want.

There is a deception that is beyond human power at work here.

249 MandyManners  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:13:52pm

FUCK YOU, BOB BECKEL!

250 nyc redneck  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:01pm

re: #238 republic

They have no will to fight to save their lives.

Any of them.

i can't even tell you how many libs i know who have been punched in the face in this town.
(and are still wondering what happened.)

251 gilly  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:13pm

He said it on the show with Bret B. tonight. The Strategy Room I think it is called. Different from the clip above. No one on the show said a thing. I think Bret did sort of exhibit a bit more assertiveness in his next few comments probably as a way of exerting some control over the situation.

252 stevieray  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:17pm

re: #224 Charles

He said it. I just watched it again to make sure.

The quote is now added above.

Oh baby, this is gonna be the ugliest election ever. The dems will say and do anything to win this one, and the MSM will not call them on any lie, no matter how big. They really will contend that only racists oppose Obama.

Gird your loins, lizards. This will be ugly. And possibly violent.

253 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:19pm

re: #242 WhiteRasta

Hoping the Croc will eat them last.....

Think more, intense global warmimg for them.

254 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:26pm

re: #249 MandyManners

Thanks for that Mandy, I still can't say that openly.

255 rwmofo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:27pm

Another attempt at reaching across the aisle, Bob?

256 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:35pm

I'm sure Beckel misspoke.

He meant to say "whitey."

257 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:37pm

re: #240 Charles

Make sure your fingers are firmly attached, then.

258 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:47pm

I like to think of myself as a Club Cracker.

/you know, a cut above

259 sleepyone  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:14:50pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

"How to Lose Friends and Alienate People"

260 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:15:13pm

Hey Beckel, you are the firthest thing from being a Christian!

261 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:15:21pm

re: #249 MandyManners

FUCK YOU, BOB BECKEL!


watch this become a top 10 comment.

262 nyc redneck  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:15:23pm

re: #249 MandyManners

FUCK YOU, BOB BECKEL!

now i feel better. thanks mandy.

263 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:15:40pm

Whitey say dat anyway?

264 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:03pm

re: #252 stevieray

Make sure to strap your jaws on tight.

265 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:05pm

re: #252 stevieray

Oh baby, this is gonna be the ugliest election ever. The dems will say and do anything to win this one, and the MSM will not call them on any lie, no matter how big. They really will contend that only racists oppose Obama.

Gird your loins, lizards. This will be ugly. And possibly violent.

Practice, practice, practice.

Heh.

266 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:12pm

"Crackers." I still can't believe that. I'm preparing a video clip.

267 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:17pm

Well, we knew the media would be portraying everyone voting against Obama as a bitter, clingy racist, but I didn't think they'd start so low, so fast, and on Fox, no less.
Crackers?

268 Render  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:35pm

My TV has been facing the wall ever since my PS2 died in '02.

FOR
GOOD
REASONS,
R

269 Nevergiveup  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:42pm

re: #267 wolfie

Well, we knew the media would be portraying everyone voting against Obama as a bitter, clingy racist, but I didn't think they'd start so low, so fast, and on Fox, no less.
Crackers?

Saltine?

270 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:16:43pm

So, let me get this straight. Beckel promotes the original rumor, then slings a racist remark himself blaming the opposition for his original idocy, and no one calls him on it, but instead ignores it? Im getting dizzy and sick.

271 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:00pm

I guess this is what the quote about bringing a gun to a knife fight was about.

272 MrArchieBunker  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:00pm

All the hacks who used to support Hillary are now trying to ingratiate themselves with the Obama forces, hence the 'cracker' remark.

273 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:08pm

re: #266 Charles

Make it a loop.

Cr-cr-cr-cracker.

274 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:14pm

Koskid...
Burn in hell, tim russert, you talentless lackey

I am not mourning this 5 million-dollar-a-year talking head, felled by his own obesity. How is it that in this world of suffering, we are expected to weep for a talentless and filthy rich tv prince? It is an example of false consciousness, like the frenzy over Princess Di's death.

Actually, I kind of miss the big-nosed princess, a cute young woman with a wild streak who raised some money for charities and had a penchant for embarrassing the british monarchy. What was Russert? A lackey, a fraud, a dim-bulb lazy establishment gatekeeper, paid five million dollars a year to delude us into thinking that jibber-jabber over campaigns was real journalism, at a time when actual journalists are getting laid off left and right.

Check his previous diaries. He's a real koskid.
Progressive!

275 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:22pm

re: #252 stevieray

Even though it's been pointed out that there are racists that do support Obama. White ones, no less.

/can I get a triple facepalm?

276 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:36pm

re: #254 CapeCoddah

Thanks for that Mandy, I still can't say that openly.

That's why we have Mandy!
God bless her!

277 NGrove  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:48pm

re: #38 Charles Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

Delusions of Grandeur with Beckel and Buchanan

278 Yankee Division Son  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:57pm

re: #266 Charles

"Crackers." I still can't believe that. I'm preparing a video clip.

Did no one question that comment? Ask him to explain?!

279 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:17:58pm

re: #244 Noam Sayin'

Well, at least it wasn't, "pinky."

/Pinky?

280 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:18:20pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

Let me guess. It's Keith Olbermann's account.

281 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:18:22pm

"The Biggest Losers"

282 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:18:29pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

Koskid...
Burn in hell, tim russert, you talentless lackey


Check his previous diaries. He's a real koskid.
Progressive!

I hope and pray for just 1 minute with this punk.

Please!

283 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:11pm

re: #271 jaunte

That's knife to a gun fight...

284 Reno911  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:14pm

"Nazi Loves Chachi"

285 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:26pm

re: #275 laZardo

Even though it's been pointed out that there are racists that do support Obama. White ones, no less.

/can I get a triple facepalm?


Most of my family is Democrat, racist, sexist, homophobic to the core, and they will be voting for Obama.

Go figure.

286 FightingBack  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:29pm

re: #277 NGrove

re: #38 Charles Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

Delusions of Grandeur with Beckel and Buchanan

"Crackers at 8 PM"

287 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:49pm

Yep, he said "cracker."

288 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:56pm

re: #276 wolfie

Noam' is a lucky guy!

289 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:19:59pm

re: #283 CapeCoddah

No wonder the knife-fighter looked at me funny.

290 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:20:01pm

re: #270 CapeCoddah

So, let me get this straight. Beckel promotes the original rumor, then slings a racist remark himself blaming the opposition for his original idocy, and no one calls him on it, but instead ignores it?


I imagine Fox would be very happy to change history to blame bloggers. Fox looks really stupid and sloppy. At least Dan Rather got fired for sloppy reporting. Fox doesn't even care.

291 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:20:02pm

re: #278 Yankee Division Son

Did no one question that comment? Ask him to explain?!

That's what I want to know. Is Fox letting go unanswered?

292 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:20:02pm

It's the new Beckel and Buchanan show...

Crackerz

Their first in-depth investigation: Y iz teh lefty kitteh OK 4 racist tawk but dat righty kitteh can haz Nazi?

293 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:20:19pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

Koskid...
Burn in hell, tim russert, you talentless lackey

Check his previous diaries. He's a real koskid.
Progressive!

"false consciousness,"

Marxist jargon. He's a Kostard alright.

294 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:20:42pm
295 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:21:01pm

re: #269 Nevergiveup

I think I'm a whole-wheat cracker, close to a graham cracker, myself.

296 Catttt  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:21:10pm

Crackers?

I'm angry now.

297 Shaky Louie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:21:51pm

You people are beginning to sound... LLL!

Lucid

Logical

Lizards

/

298 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:22:25pm

re: #289 jaunte

ROFLMAO

299 stevieray  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:22:26pm

Heh. If this "whitey" tape ever does surface, the MSM would then proclaim, "Persistent Lefty Blogs Dig Up Truth: Hillary Steps Forward To Save Nation."

300 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:22:29pm

Why did the Hill woman get axed and Beckel gets to stay?

301 NGrove  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:22:35pm

re: #286 FightingBack

"Crackers at 8 PM"

Served with Whine and Cheese!

302 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:22:50pm

Mean Ass Cracker Daddy, That's me.

MAC Daddy, I like it.

Gizoogle it.

303 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:22:56pm

What is the origin of the 'cracker' slur?

304 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:04pm

re: #294 taxfreekiller

A former carny, Beckel,
works the call out
for suckers like the pro he is

thug in bad pants and shirt
and who the hell does his
food budget?

Satan

305 Catttt  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:05pm

re: #295 Dianna

I think I'm a whole-wheat cracker, close to a graham cracker, myself.

I'm irish soda with a touch of carraway.

306 lawhawk  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:10pm
Let’s play a game. Since Fox also keeps putting the grizzled old Jew-hater Pat Buchanan in front of the cameras, what would be a good name for a show featuring Buchanan and Beckel? Now that would be must-see TV - for Neanderthals.

Futz and Putz

1/4 the McLaughlin Group with 8x the hypocrisy.

307 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:14pm

re: #296 Catttt

Crackers?

I'm angry now.

Jes hongry, heah. Dat fat white boy don't know no cracka frum a hole in de groun'.

308 Sloppy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:31pm

I figure Brit Hume is the canary in the FNC coal mine. If he quits, is demoted or moved to a less visible job, the network is fatally compromised.

309 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:32pm

I remember watching this live and I remember hearing him say Cracker and I am so used to this vitriol from this scumbag that it really didn't even register with me as anything at all.

I believe this is called learned helplessness

or it could be that the stuff coming out of Beckel's mouth is white noise

310 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:44pm
311 MamaAJ  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:51pm

There will always be assholes, but Fox News chooses to employ people like this idiot and Geraldo (who would spit on M. Malkin).

Forget them. I won't watch them or go to their web site.

312 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:51pm

re: #208 republic

See Korean and Vietnam Wars.

Not sure what point you're trying to make. We fought the North Koreans and then the Chinese to a standstill in Korea. We fought the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong for thirteen years, and even though we sold out our South Vietnamese ally in the end, the NV never had much success trying to spread their revolution throughout Southeast Asia. And after Americans punished themselves with Carter, they came to their senses and elected Reagan. They stuck with him through difficult transitions in our economy (which led directly to the prosperity of the 90's) and stood firmly with him as he confronted the Soviets. Those were very scary times...I remember how frightened I was when we put Pershing II missiles in Europe to counter the Soviet short-range missiles, how close the unthinkable seemed in those days. But Americans swallowed their fear and let their President do what was right.

No, the spirit of patriotism and sacrifice did not die right after WW2.

313 Nevergiveup  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:52pm

re: #295 Dianna

I think I'm a whole-wheat cracker, close to a graham cracker, myself.

I think I'm a Ritz Cracker because my wife says I can cut the cheese....

314 vxbush  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:23:59pm

re: #231 Dianna

Earlier today. However, when I clicked your link, I got there with no problems.

It's still not working for me, so perhaps DNS has not caught up in my neck of the woods. I could flush my DNS cache....

315 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:24:06pm

re: #300 republic

He is a lib, she is a conservative.

316 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:24:19pm

Mandy is a nut cracker

317 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:24:38pm

re: #279 Killian Bundy

That was hysterical! "He's a very loving cat..."

NOM!

They were trying to get that beast adopted?

How about that storm last night? Clear and calm, then all hell broke loose. I was seriously in the middle of typing you out a message:


Here it comes, Killian.

Lot of wind.

Just as I was hitting the 'post this comment' button, the power went out.

318 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:24:42pm

I can't take it anymore, I'm listening to Motorheads "I don't believe a word."

319 Bacchus's daddy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:25:27pm

re: #300 republic

The Hill woman, E.D. Hill?

320 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:25:41pm

re: #319 Bacchus's daddy

Yes.

321 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:25:44pm

re: #303 mama winger

What is the origin of the 'cracker' slur?

Check wiki: it goes back to the Old English "craic", and was used by the English to describe Scots-Irish settlers in the colonies.

322 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:26:07pm

re: #312 Tigger2005

I have the ominous feeling that it's going to finally kick the bucket with my generation.

323 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:26:13pm

re: #303 mama winger

Found this:


The true history of the name, however, is more involved and shows a shift in application over time. Linguists now believe the original root to be the Gaelic craic, still used in Ireland (anglicized in spelling to crack) for "entertaining conversation." The English meaning of cracker as a braggart appears by Elizabethan times, as, for example, in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this . . . that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"
By the 1760s the English, both at home and in colonial America, were applying the term to Scots-Irish settlers of the southern backcountry,
as in this passage from a letter to the earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode." The word then came to be associated with the cowboys of Georgia and Florida, many of them descendants of those early frontiersmen.


[Link: www.newgeorgiaencyclopedia.org...]

324 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:26:15pm

In the vernacular of the South, here's the hierarchy as I knew it:

1. Southern ladies and gentleman--good manners, good breeding

2. good ol' boys/girls: harder drinking and talking, but good hearted

3. red necks: more blue collar, less grammatical, more parochial, more inclined to chew tobacco

4. poor white/Cracker--less money, less education, but good people

5. white trash--need I say more? These are the people who were tacky and bigoted.

I resent his insinuation on behalf of all the fine Crackers I've known.

325 Gilly  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:26:26pm

#266 Charles


Do I get a point for my exquisite listening skills?

326 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:26:28pm

re: #317 Noam Sayin'

They were trying to get that beast adopted?

He actually was adopted.

/long dead by now though

327 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:26:54pm
328 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:02pm

Bitta crackaz clingin' 2 they nines and religionz 4 life, yo.

329 Bacchus's daddy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:22pm

re: #320 CapeCoddah

Was it over a "terrorist salute" comment or something like that?

330 cybermonk  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:27pm

re: #213 Charles

he is blaming Florida natives? That's what they call native Floridians here in Florida. Think of the pop singer uncle cracker.

331 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:30pm

re: #303 mama winger

What is the origin of the 'cracker' slur?


Cracker

One theory claims that the term dates back to slavery in the antebellum South. The popular folk etymology is based on slaver foremen using bullwhips to discipline African and African American slaves, and the sound the whip being described as 'cracking the whip'. The foremen who cracked these whips were thus known as 'crackers'. [1][2][3]

According to the 1911 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica, "cracker" is a term of contempt for the "poor" or "mean whites," particularly of Georgia and Florida. Britannica notes that the term dates back to the American Revolution, and is derived from the "cracked corn" which formed their staple food. [2] (Note that in British English "mean" is also a term for poverty, with no malice implied.)

Historically the word suggested poor, white rural Americans with little formal education. Historians point out the term originally referred to the strong Scots-Irish of the back country (as opposed to the English of the seacoast). Thus a sociologist reported in 1926: "As the plantations expanded these freed men (formerly bond servants) were pushed further and further back upon the more and more sterile soil. They became 'pinelanders', 'corn-crackers', or 'crackers'." [

332 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:37pm

re: #305 Catttt

I'm irish soda with a touch of carraway.

Very nice! Excellent taste!

333 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:45pm

re: #325 Gilly

#266 Charles

Do I get a point for my exquisite listening skills?

One point, coming up.

334 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:27:54pm
335 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:28:29pm

The meaning I find in several internet links is that a cracker is a poor white uneducated rural hick.

I take offense at that, Mr. Beckel, and I ask that you apologize publicly. And then get the hell off of my TV.

336 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:28:41pm

re: #313 Nevergiveup

Lots of butter in you?

337 Nevergiveup[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:28:50pm
338 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:28:50pm

Beckel is not helping the Obamassiah with his "Appalachian problem."

339 sandspur  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:20pm

Bigots and Friends?
The Bigot Story?
The Bigot Block?

340 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:20pm

re: #319 Bacchus's daddy

The Hill woman, E.D. Hill?

/she said a bad thing

341 NGrove  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:21pm

re: #328 Dar ul Harb

Bitta crackaz clingin' 2 they nines and religionz 4 life, yo.

Cuz dats how we roll...

342 FightingBack[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:26pm
343 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:36pm

re: #337 Nevergiveup

What do you call a Jewish cracker?


Motzah!

344 OldLineTexan[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:42pm
345 sleepyone  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:29:56pm

"Dancing With die Weißen"

346 forrest  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:30:01pm

This will probably be the end of Beckel on Fox. It's bad enough that he's the one who promoted the rumor, but now he's overcompensating and using slurs to project blame.

I guess he's forgotten how the internets work. Can't get a way that.

But I gotta give him a little credit for coming right out and saying that the Democrats in Lake County Indiana (Gary) cheat. This happened on the night of the "D" Indiana primary.

347 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:30:10pm

re: #338 wolfie

Beckel is not helping the Obamassiah with his "Appalachian problem."


Maybe that's the plan. He was a Clinton supporter, wasn't he?

348 Catttt  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:30:16pm

re: #303 mama winger

What is the origin of the 'cracker' slur?

No one knows for sure, but I think it's from the middle English use of the word as applied to conversation, which became a pejorative term applied to people who brag or talk a lot. The word was applied as a pejorative to Scots-Irish people in the South.

There are other theories.

349 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:30:24pm

re: #290 Killgore Trout

Hey Killgore, It surely sucks when CBS does a better job than Fox at policing their content!

350 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:30:35pm

re: #325 Gilly

#266 Charles


Do I get a point for my exquisite listening skills?

Point? Point?
You should ask for a bonus w/ next month's Zionist check!

351 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:30:57pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

Wow. Radically different definition than Wiki.

352 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:31:02pm

On second thought, no apology is necessary.

I have known many poor, white, uneducated rural folks. I can't think of one whom I have known who wasn't a good human being that would give me the shirt off their back, and two if they could spare it.

Stick that in your college degree and smoke it, Bobbie.

353 Dar ul Harb[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:31:08pm
354 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:31:18pm

re: #349 CapeCoddah

Hey Killgore, It surely sucks when CBS does a better job than Fox at policing their content!

When the hell was that?

/still waiting for a retraction on past slurs and lies

355 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:31:48pm

re: #329 Bacchus's daddy

Yup. Apparently, she said something about Michelle O's fist pump looking like a terrorist motion, or something like that.

356 Muadib  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:32:01pm

Faux News. Take with grain of salt. Repeat as needed.

357 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:32:22pm

re: #337 Nevergiveup

Whoah, dude.

358 Da_Beerfreak  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:32:27pm

re: #306 lawhawk

Futz and Putz

1/4 the McLaughlin Group with 8x the hypocrisy.

Now that does bring back some not so fond memories of "Grits and Fritz".

It's going to be Deja Vous, all over again.
// {:-(™

359 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:32:27pm
360 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:32:28pm

re: #322 laZardo

I have the ominous feeling that it's going to finally kick the bucket with my generation.

Maybe. All we can do is keep fighting to the bitter end, no matter how many prominent "conservatives" disappoint us.

361 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:32:54pm

re: #355 CapeCoddah

Yup. Apparently, she said something about Michelle O's fist pump looking like a terrorist motion, or something like that.

She said that some people were commenting that the fist pump was similar to what terrorists do. For that, she lost her show.

362 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:33:06pm

re: #343 Killgore Trout

Motzah!

Does that go with this wine?

363 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:33:12pm

re: #356 Muadib

Faux News. Take with grain of saltsaltine. Repeat as needed.

364 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:33:16pm

re: #319 Bacchus's daddy

The Hill woman, E.D. Hill?

Yes.

What she said may be accurate.

365 jamsler  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:33:18pm

re: #303 mama winger

A slave owner cracking his whip.

366 sandspur  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:33:39pm

I wish FNC would put ED Hill back on Fox and Friends and dump that weak sister that's on now.

367 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:33:55pm

So ABC news is worring about Michelle Obama " in for some ugly stuff " - the stuff out of her own mouth. The media as a whole is blaming conservatives and Rush Limbaugh for Democrat Larry Johnson's rumor on the white tape. And then on Fox we have a Democrat calling white people crackers.
The media has slid off the tracks and gone to hell. I am totally disgusted.......

368 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:34:02pm

re: #362 NJDhockeyfan

Cool label.

369 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:34:31pm

re: #354 OldLineTexan

Referring ONLY to Dan Rather being fired. Even if it did need arm twisting.

370 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:34:36pm
371 cybermonk  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:34:47pm

re: #337 Nevergiveup

a matzoh

372 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:34:52pm

re: #365 jamsler

A slave owner cracking his whip.

Actually, the overseer would be the one with the whip, not the slave owner, unless it was a very small concern.

373 Nevergiveup  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:35:07pm

re: #371 cybermonk

a matzoh

It's to mundane.

374 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:35:23pm

re: #337 Nevergiveup

What do you call a Jewish cracker?

Howard Stern

375 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:35:29pm

Purchase firearms and ammuniton and practice, practice, practice.

As of today, they can't take that from you.

376 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:35:35pm

re: #365 jamsler

Incorrect. It refers to poor white people post-civil war. They were cracking whips, but not at slaves, they were driving their wagons.

377 eaglewingz08  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:35:49pm

New show name:

Brownshirts and BrownNotes.

378 Nevergiveup  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:36:00pm

re: #374 Shug

Howard Stern

I think that's a winner

379 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:36:11pm

I would rather be a cracker than a fool like Beckel.

380 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:36:14pm

re: #361 mama winger

Thanks, Mama, I stand corrected.

381 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:36:23pm

re: #337 Nevergiveup

The whip used by the SS guards at concentration camps.

382 sandspur  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:36:51pm

Growing up in Florida, we were taught that a Florida Cracker referred to the whip-cracking Florida cowboys.
Most of my relatives are Florida Crackers and Rednecks and we are damn proud of it!

383 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:36:54pm

Fuck Bob Beckel, Fuck the left!

384 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:00pm

re: #380 CapeCoddah

Thanks, Mama, I stand corrected.

Oh - I wasn't trying to correct you - I was only adding to what you had rightly stated.

385 tgibson1962  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:05pm

"Why is this proven liar and shameless fraud still on the air?"

If folks like that weren't on the air, how would they ever be able to get a quote from a politician?

386 laZardo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:05pm

re: #374 Shug

Zing!

387 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:17pm

re: #383 republic

Fuck Bob Beckel, Fuck the left!

deep breaths :)

388 pdogg  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:31pm

re: #303 mama winger


I think it may have been a reference to white indentured servants.

389 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:55pm

re: #369 CapeCoddah

Referring ONLY to Dan Rather being fired. Even if it did need arm twisting.

Arm-twisting of course being defined as having Charles shove a throbbing memo so far up your news department it's embarassing even for the whores that ran CBS.

My father was in that TANG unit before, during, and after Bush. He got a phone call from one of Mapes' peons and he was not polite. I would have paid dearly for the chance to answer that phone call.

390 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:37:55pm

Whip It

/performed by middle-schoolers

391 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:38:11pm

re: #387 mama winger

deep breaths :)


It sometimes amazes me what is accepted.

392 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:38:19pm

re: #388 pdogg

I think it may have been a reference to white indentured servants.

I guess the likes of Beckel are too good for the likes of us'ns.

393 vxbush  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:38:28pm

re: #379 mama winger

I would rather be a cracker than a fool like Beckel.

Indeed.

Bedtime for me. Good night, everyone.

394 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:38:51pm

re: #365 jamsler

A slave owner cracking his whip.

Myth.
It was NEVER used to refer to the slave-holding (rich) class.
The derivation is from "craic" and goes back to the Middle Ages. (See posts above for possible colonial uses here.)

395 Pianobuff  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:01pm

[Link: www.newgeorgiaencyclopedia.org...]

Linguists now believe the original root to be the Gaelic craic, still used in Ireland (anglicized in spelling to crack) for "entertaining conversation." The English meaning of cracker as a braggart appears by Elizabethan times, as, for example, in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this . . . that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in colonial America, were applying the term to Scots-Irish settlers of the southern backcountry,
From Harper's New Monthly
Crackers
as in this passage from a letter to the earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode." The word then came to be associated with the cowboys of Georgia and Florida, many of them descendants of those early frontiersmen.

Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South, by Grady McWhiney
Crackers
Among African Americans cracker became a contemptuous term for a white southerner; among some southern whites it has become a label of ethnic and regional pride, boosted by the election of south Georgian Jimmy Carter to the presidency in 1976. This led to the coining of the word crackertude as a not entirely serious answer to negritude.

396 carbon footprint  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:02pm

Beckel is black? I never knew.

397 PSGInfinity  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:05pm

re: #262 nyc redneck

now i feel better. thanks mandy.

Modded up...

398 Da_Beerfreak  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:13pm

re: #317 Noam Sayin'

That was hysterical! "He's a very loving cat..."

NOM!

They were trying to get that beast adopted?

How about that storm last night? Clear and calm, then all hell broke loose. I was seriously in the middle of typing you out a message:

Just as I was hitting the 'post this comment' button, the power went out.

No Shit!
I spent a good part of this afternoon getting a big chunk of my horse chestnut tree out on my neighbor's yard.

399 yochanan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:15pm

re: #343 Killgore Trout

Motzah!

i am not a cracker i am a 'hand smera matzah'
round and harder than a sq. matzah.

400 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:20pm

Every once in a while the wiki page comes through.

Cracker

401 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:39:53pm

I come to LGF for all the free craic.

402 WriterMom  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:40:35pm

re: #337 Nevergiveup

Totally Un funny.

403 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:40:35pm

re: #401 jaunte

I come to LGF for all the free craic.

I knew someone would start to craic wise.

404 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:40:37pm
405 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:40:40pm

Does anyone need more proof that the liberals look down their noses at 'The Great Un-Washed'?

'Party of the People', my shiny white cracker ass.

406 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:40:55pm

re: #401 jaunte

Sure, it's all the crack!

407 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:40:59pm

Beckel and Buchanan?

Crackhead and Whitebread.

408 Macker  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:41:02pm

re: #396 carbon footprint

Beckel is black? I never knew.


Sen. Robert Byrd (D-KKK) would probably call him a "White N****r" and get away with it.

409 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:41:23pm

re: #403 OldLineTexan

My brother James used to craic corn, but I didn't mind, really.

410 NGrove  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:41:27pm

Maybe its time to embrace my inner cracker...Mike Birbigilia on crackers

411 snowcrash  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:41:30pm

What about animal crackers?

412 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:41:32pm

re: #376 DeathtotheSwiss

Incorrect. It refers to poor white people post-civil war. They were cracking whips, but not at slaves, they were driving their wagons.

Has nothing to do with whips or the English word CRACK.
The term craic (or craik, crack) is very old.
(See longer posts above)

413 Catttt  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:41:46pm

re: #347 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe that's the plan. He was a Clinton supporter, wasn't he?

Totally tangled web city. Can't tell the players even WITH a scorecard.

414 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:42:09pm

re: #401 jaunte

I was listening to a caller on Rush, the guy told him he was "crack cocaine" and Hannity was "marijuana", kept saying he was very nervous. He later explained he meant this as a compliment. Hmphf!

415 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:42:31pm
Here's a pub with fun and laughter,
The landlord's buying bevy,
There's a session in the corner,
And the craic is grand tonight.
But the man who's lost his woman,
He's still at home lamenting;
Oh, if he'd gone and asked his father,
I'm sure he'd set him right.
416 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:42:32pm

re: #411 snowcrash

What about animal crackers?

They're in my soup.

Frankly, it's not that good.

417 conservativeChick  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:42:32pm

re: #42 The Shadow Do

He has his own radio show now.

418 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:42:38pm

Bob Beckel was one of the great minds behind "Super Delegates".

How's that workin for ya, DNC ?

419 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:42:56pm

I think republic is right. Not much will happen. He may go away for a week, but he'll be back. Calling whites racial slurs just doesn't seem to go anywhere. He With Ruffled Sheet Byrd said something awful that didn't get much play, this unfortunately probably won't either. Whitey can't be a victim, ever.

420 Tigger2005  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:43:03pm

re: #360 Tigger2005

Maybe. All we can do is keep fighting to the bitter end, no matter how many prominent "conservatives" disappoint us.

Anyway, I went to a Memorial Day celebration in Kansas City, in which the KC Symphony played patriotic music and field artillery pieces were fired on the steps of the Liberty Memorial. There were thousands of people there of all races and colors, and I even saw several Muslims. Veterans and current servicemen and women were cheered, and when a WWI veteran was introduced, the applause went on for something like five minutes. I even saw a young black kid in a bandana, tank top and baggy pants clapping for this old white guy.

I'm not so sure patriotism is dead yet. Perhaps people need to catch a glimpse of what awaits us if we don't pull together.

421 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:43:13pm

re: #412 wolfie

But the etymology is unclear. It's like the word "fuck", there are many theories but no definitive answer.

422 sandspur  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:43:21pm

re: #409 jaunte

That's too funny!

423 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:43:28pm

Video clip of the "crackers" comment now posted.

424 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:43:51pm
425 rwmofo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:44:21pm

re: #405 mama winger

Does anyone need more proof that the liberals look down their noses at 'The Great Un-Washed'?

'Party of the People', my shiny white cracker ass.

That's it exactly. If a southerner wants to vote Democrat, they'll let them in - while holding their noses. Beckel is a typical narrow-minded northeastern elitist liberal.

426 joecitizen  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:44:38pm

clean up on aisle 344..

427 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:00pm

re: #398 Da_Beerfreak

No Shit!
I spent a good part of this afternoon getting a big chunk of my horse chestnut tree out on my neighbor's yard.

Ah, that sucks. I thought I was going to lose my maple. From my porch I watched it twist and flail in seemingly impossible extremes but it didn't crack

er.

And now we're back on topic.

428 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:09pm

re: #424 buzzsawmonkey

The newspeople cozying up to the Obama campaign can kiss my butt crack.

Can I get a video of that?

429 secsailor  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:13pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)


How about "The Odd Couple"...

430 Carridine  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:22pm

Faux News presents:

"The Buch and Bech Bit!"
Fox's Gruesome Twosome with Hypocritical Hype, guest tripe Rather Blather, and Snaping Japery that you'll find DEEES-gusting!

Give it up now for The Buch & Bech Bit!

431 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:34pm

"Let these crackers and right wingers prove it..."

Wow..

432 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:36pm
433 Nevergiveup  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:38pm

They are trying to frame the debate so any criticism of Obama is considered racist and not worthy of responding to. We can't let them do that or we are gonna lose and lose big.

434 capitalistincharge  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:45pm

Regardless of the wiki definition of "cracker", what matters is the context in which Beckel used it. It was clearly meant as a slur. I have used the term used in the past and it was always meant as a derogatory name for useless white folks. Now, I should think that Fox will take action against that bloviating Beckel and soothe whitey's nationwide. I mean "Cracker" or "Napy Headed HO's" seem to fall into the same catagory. Doncha think?

435 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:51pm

I still want to know who the left thinks will save them when the crap hits the fan?

I will not defend those in my own family who are in the left.

Seriously!

436 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:45:53pm

re: #423 Charles

Thank you, Charles.

437 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:46:13pm

re: #400 DeathtotheSwiss

Every once in a while the wiki page comes through.

Cracker

Pianobuff's #395 is better for understanding the actual origin of the word, which had nothing to do with cracking whips or pecans!

438 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:46:18pm

re: #432 buzzsawmonkey

Should it happen, yes.

I now have something to live for. :)

439 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:46:30pm

Craic kills

440 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:46:50pm

re: #435 republic

I still want to know who the left thinks will save them when the crap hits the fan?

I will not defend those in my own family who are in the left.

Seriously!

Yes you will. That's who we are.

441 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:47:20pm

re: #434 capitalistincharge

One would think so, in any reasonable world.

442 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:47:21pm

re: #433 Nevergiveup

They are trying to frame the debate so any criticism of Obama is considered racist and not worthy of responding to. We can't let them do that or we are gonna lose and lose big.

We've already lost, the question is, what will we do about it.

443 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:47:24pm

re: #434 capitalistincharge

I mean "Cracker" or "Napy Headed HO's" seem to fall into the same catagory. Doncha think?

Yes.

444 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:47:25pm

"Mr. Beckel, you referred in the clip to "Crackers and right wingers," is there any specific person you had in mind or was it just a generalized smear of anyone not planning to vote for the democratic candidate?"

445 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:47:28pm

re: #426 joecitizen

clean up on aisle 344..

I reported it myself. That's what the "!" button is for, in part.

446 rwmofo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:48:17pm

Hey, I forgot about this! A quick google search reminds us that Beckel had to pay for it.

Loser.

447 victory bound  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:48:21pm

Ladies und Gentlemen! I'm shocked! Aren't you judging mondale's CAMPAIGN MANAGER by the standards applicable only to humans. What a silly thing to do!

448 jaunte  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:49:21pm

re: #446 rwmofo

"John" Beckel?

449 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:49:37pm

re: #440 mama winger

Yes you will. That's who we are.


No I won't mama.

Think of me what you will, but I won't defend anyone who participates in the destruction of the USA.

Nobody, not family, not anyone.

450 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:49:39pm

re: #448 jaunte

"John" Beckel?

Client Number 8 ?

451 capitalistincharge  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:49:43pm

Regarding previous comment....I meant I have heard the term used. I should have previewed comment. sorry

452 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:50:18pm

re: #446 rwmofo

He and Dick Morris could appear together; Whenever Morris appears, the tag could read, "He sucks on the toes of prostitutes" and whenever the camera switches to Beckel, the tag could read, "He has to pay for it."

453 Opinionated  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:50:31pm

Nazi and Nutsi

454 Charles  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:50:47pm

re: #446 rwmofo

Hey, I forgot about this! A quick google search reminds us that Beckel had to pay for it.

Loser.

Lovely.

455 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:51:13pm

re: #202 Charles

When you go on national television and talk about a bombshell rumor you've heard, you are promoting it.

Charles -

Of course Beckel was promoting it. He is a Hillary shill. he actually wants us to believe that the former Goldwater Girl was slimed. Hillary slimed herself in 1974 when she believed that Pres. Richard M. Nixon was NOT entitled to legal counsel as Impeachment was like "getting fired" I dis- agreed with it at the time - I remember the time and was in Law School with Peter Rodino's Son. I make NO BONES about it - I was a Nixon Hater at the time - No apologies - in 1973/4 among people of my education and beliefs - that was NORMAL.
Time gives perspective. Has Time given perspective to HILLARY? Discussion?

-S-

456 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:51:21pm

re: #449 republic

Actively participating in the destruction of the US - as a combatant or a traitor - I can see that.

Someone just passively stupid ? - I would defend them.

457 Pianobuff  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:51:34pm

re: #38 Charles

Brownshirt and Brownnose

458 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:51:45pm

re: #452 Dianna

He and Dick Morris could appear together; Whenever Morris appears, the tag could read, "He sucks on the toes of prostitutes" and whenever the camera switches to Beckel, the tag could read, "He has to pay for it."

Yuck!

459 Carridine  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:52:10pm

re: #449 republic

I understand. Taking a principled stand happened in my family, and my forebears fought each other, in Blue and Grey...

There's no way around it.

460 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:52:19pm

re: #456 mama winger

Actively participating in the destruction of the US - as a combatant or a traitor - I can see that.

Someone just passively stupid ? - I would defend them.

I won't, it's already cost us too much.

461 rwmofo  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:52:30pm

re: #446 rwmofo

Hey, I forgot about this! A quick google search reminds us that Beckel had to pay for it.

Loser.

They caught him because he paid with a check.

Idiot.

462 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:52:43pm

re: #454 Charles

Lovely.

He wrote her a CHECK? The left is dumber than I thought. Yipes, what a putz.

463 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:52:59pm

re: #458 The Other Les

Sorry. Perhaps the tag could read, "Paid for sex with a check"?

464 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:53:02pm

re: #455 Dr. Shalit

The Total Perspective Vortex could not give a perspective to Hillary.

/my opinion

465 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:53:10pm

re: #459 Carridine

I understand. Taking a principled stand happened in my family, and my forebears fought each other, in Blue and Grey...

There's no way around it.

Family means nothing to me when it comes to right or wrong.

466 wolfie  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:53:29pm

re: #421 DeathtotheSwiss

But the etymology is unclear. It's like the word "fuck", there are many theories but no definitive answer.

What is very clear is that the word is medieval in origin and has nothing to do with chattel slavery.

467 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:53:38pm

I just fired off a polite but angry letter to Fox. This needs to be addressed by them. It was very unprofessional.

468 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:53:45pm

re: #225 republic

God would be the last thing on their minds.

I'm sure the last thing on their minds would be the ACLU or some other leftist kook org.

republic -

Nobody I know says "ACLU DAMN YOU." Discussion?

-S-

469 Sharmuta  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:53:46pm

Fox has had a serious problem for a couple years now in guest selection. I guess it's moved up to contributor/analyst selections now too.

It's perfectly okay to step away from the fox news, folks. I did it years ago. I get all my news online. The Lizards are much better at not only keeping me up to date, but provide some great analysis.

470 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:54:37pm

re: #461 rwmofo

It appears that he went to the police because the hooker was trying to extort him, not that he was "caught." To be scrupulously fair. But paying by check...well. Maybe in one of Nevada's brothels, but not anywhere else.

471 The Other Les  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:54:57pm

re: #463 Dianna

Sorry. Perhaps the tag could read, "Paid for sex with a check"?

By the way, did Eliot Spitzer pay for his own prostitutes or did someone else pay the bill for him?

472 Shug  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:16pm

I've heard Beckel use the word Cracker before on air.

I don't have a link or a clip but I've heard it before.

473 republic  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:18pm

re: #468 Dr. Shalit

republic -

Nobody I know says "ACLU DAMN YOU." Discussion?

-S-

The left doesn't know what they say.

474 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:33pm

re: #466 wolfie

I wasn't one of the ones who said it did. I just doubt that it has anything to do with Celtic language. The most likely explanation is that of the Georgia and Florida "crackers" who made their livings herding cattle.

475 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:34pm

If FOX dumps Beckel, he's going to blame the crackers.

476 Carridine  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:36pm

re: #466 wolfie Roger THAT, Wolfie! 'Cracker' NOT DERIVED from 'whip-cracker'

Probably the origin of the phrase, 'to crack a joke'

477 FightingBack  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:40pm

re: #469 Sharmuta

Now, I only watch TV news when the Lizards are watching&commenting.

478 Dianna  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:55:58pm

re: #471 The Other Les

Evidently on his own, but he used the name of a friend.

479 Sharmuta  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:56:03pm

re: #38 Charles

Tonight's drinking game - name the new Fox show featuring Beckel and Pat Buchanan.

(There isn't really a show, but why not? There doesn't seem to be a bottom to this well...)

Did anybody suggest "Dumb and Dumber" yet?

480 CapeCoddah  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:56:10pm

re: #471 The Other Les

I think he used a credit card. Not sure, but might have been on an offshore account.

481 Nevergiveup  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:56:13pm

re: #470 Dianna

It appears that he went to the police because the hooker was trying to extort him, not that he was "caught." To be scrupulously fair. But paying by check...well. Maybe in one of Nevada's brothels, but not anywhere else.

So you mean he paid for illicit sex and then was shock, shock I say, that he was being extorted? Who wodda thunk?

482 conservativeChick  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:56:17pm

This is not the first time I heard Beckel say crackers.

483 mama winger  Sun, Jun 15, 2008 6:56:41pm