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Pro-Obama Media Sliming 'Right Wing' Blogs

Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:15:53 am PDT

Michelle Malkin blogs about the incredibly dishonest smears going on around that “whitey tape” hoax: Fight Their Smears: ABC News, Bob Beckel, Time, AP, Guardian, and NYT slime the Right.

Michelle can add LGF to the list of bloggers who did not fall for the hoax, with several posts alerting people to Larry Johnson’s background as a Daily Kos diarist and a zero credibility fraud:

’Whitey’ Tape Fake? Say It Ain’t So!
Unwelcome Linkage
NY Times Blames ‘Conservative Blogs’ for the ‘Whitey Tape’ Fraud

Bob Beckel’s hypocritical statement on Fox News was just the latest attempt to divert the blame onto conservative bloggers, but he took it to a new level by actually using a racist slur—and none of the other guests on the show even batted an eye.

UPDATE at 6/16/08 9:35:03 am:

Here’s some more information on Beckel, the dishonest smear merchant: Bob Beckel’s hooker scandal.

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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:17:25am

Did anyone at LGF truly believe there was a "whitey tape"?

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:18:30am

I'd be damned if I was golfing against Tiger Woods if I'd interview during the damn match!

3 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:18:35am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did anyone at LGF truly believe there was a "whitey tape"?

It was too good to be true.

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:19:10am

Oh, it wasn't during the match. Pre-recorded. Thought he was crazy!

5 Fo knee ix  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:19:10am

Latest iteration of the Big Lie.

6 satan sidekick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:19:36am

I caught that show with Mr delusional Beckel.

Personally, I think the Obama camp is the one creating these rumors to make the GOP look like racists.

7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:19:45am

re: #3 MandyManners

It was too good to be true.

And everybody (I mean EVERYBODY) believed it was too good to be true.

8 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:19:47am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm sure that some did, but the fact was that based on who was peddling this nonsense - Beckel and Larry Johnson, the amount of credibility behind those claims was astonishingly slim.

9 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:19:58am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did anyone at LGF truly believe there was a "whitey tape"?

Not me. Larry Johnson is an idiot. I think Obama hopes to use this strawman to silence the blogosphere.

10 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:09am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

/October surprise?

11 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:14am

I don't know any conservative blog that ran with that story. Hannity seemed doubtful on the audio clip I heard and the Republican hack that said he thought it might be real said so because of all the media asking _him_.

12 calvin coolidge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:18am

With BHO you can just feel the country coming together in 3.......2......

13 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:25am

Flashback...here is Bob Beckel's hooker.

14 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:28am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did anyone at LGF truly believe there was a "whitey tape"?

Some may have, some of us may have simply hoped (there's that word again) that it existed. Whatever the hopes and dreams of certain lizards, Charles never fell for it, and that, on LGF, is what counts.

15 Karagush  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:16am

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And everybody (I mean EVERYBODY) believed it was too good to be true.

I believed that if i was true it would be used... and it wasnt used. So could it be true? No.
I do however believe it was fake but true.

16 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:33am

re: #8 lawhawk

I'm sure that some did, but the fact was that based on who was peddling this nonsense - Beckel and Larry Johnson, the amount of credibility behind those claims was astonishingly slim.

I heard Beckel on Fox that morning and HE sounded pretty sure there was a tape and that it would be damaging. So who is he kidding?

17 bosforus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:38am

Rush is talking about this topic at the moment.

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:44am

re: #10 Bob in Breckenridge

/October surprise?

Balony!

By the way. Do you spell balony as in "bull feathers" like I did, or Bologna like the Osker Myer commercial?

19 satan sidekick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:50am

The latest rumor is that the GOP thinks Obama and his wife are too black. How ridiculous.

20 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:52am
21 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:22:05am

The second I heard who was pimping the rumor, I knew it was bogus.
Bob-ESAD.

22 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:22:08am

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And everybody (I mean EVERYBODY) believed it was too good to be true.

To be honest, I was skeptical, but secretly hopeful such a tape existed.

23 Dianna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:22:55am

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People asked if it could be true, frequently, or even if anybody'd heard of this. It was more about "Do I have this story straight?", I thought.

24 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:04am

re: #20 buzzsawmonkey

Note the Islamic name of "Maryam."

According to his Wiki page "He became a born-again Christian in late 2000." This was before the hooker incident.

25 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:09am

Lefty Loves Labels

26 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:15am

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Balony!

By the way. Do you spell balony as in "bull feathers" like I did, or Bologna like the Osker Myer commercial?

Note the sarc tag, FBV.

27 Intrepid  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:15am

I fell for the possibility, but I didn't know who Larry Johnson was at the time.

And the more I thought about it, the more I realized that if there was a tape of Michelle Obama making "whitey" or "cracker" remarks, it would have come out way before now.

But I'll hazard a guess that none of us doubted that Michelle Obama could/would have made such outrageous statements about white people....

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:27am

re: #22 Honorary Yooper

Hell, everybody was secretly hopeful...but didn't see a credible Lizard jumping up and down with glee either.

29 Perry  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:21am

I believe she is capable of it. The source was the problem.

30 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:27am

I had a friend send me the "Whitey tape" thing by email (after the story showed up here), and I educated him about Larry Johnson.

31 Dianna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:27am

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Baloney".

32 MrC_5150  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:27am

Hey, Beckle? How about a slice of crow on a Ritz cracker? Mmmmmmm. Good cracker.

33 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:32am

re: #17 bosforus

Rush is talking about this topic at the moment.

You must be watching on Rush 24/7, huh?

34 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:33am

The Protocols of the Scribblers of Lyin'.

35 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:38am

If the tape had existed, Hillary would have used it. Immediately. No doubt in my mind.

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:42am

re: #26 Bob in Breckenridge

Oh, yeah. I saw it. Should have left it alone. But, how do you spell baloney. Bolony, Baloney, Bologna?

Where's Goddess when I need her.

37 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:48am

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

Flashback...here is Bob Beckel's hooker.

Oh, my stars!

38 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:24:50am

re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell, everybody was secretly hopeful...but didn't see a credible Lizard jumping up and down with glee either.

Those of us who have been around the proverbial block a few times before, knew not to hold our breaths.

39 Gagdad Bob  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:25:11am

That's the left for you. Same old slime old.

40 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:25:35am

re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, yeah. I saw it. Should have left it alone. But, how do you spell baloney. Bolony, Baloney, Bologna?

Where's Goddess when I need her.

BS: Baloney
Sausage: Bologna
Fox: Beckel

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:25:39am

re: #31 Dianna

"Baloney".

Thanks! So it is written. So it shall be done.

42 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:25:57am

re: #37 MandyManners

Oh, my stars!

Her name sounds kind of Iranian.

43 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:26:31am

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

Flashback...here is Bob Beckel's hooker.

35C-25-24? Gotta' be a typo.

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:26:37am

re: #40 OldLineTexan

Damn Texan, you are one sharp Lizard.

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:27:16am

After two, Tiger Even, Rocco +1.

46 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:27:28am
47 Intrepid  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:27:37am

re: #43 MandyManners

35C-25-24? Gotta' be a typo.

That, or she's an upside down triangle...

48 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:27:44am

2 things.

1. I seem to recall Beckel himself buying into the rumor.

2. I 100% remember hearing Beckel on Hannity's radio show accusing Wolfowitz of "SALUTING TWO FLAGS" (ISrael and US) and Hannity saved his ass by asking him multiple times if he wanted apologize.

His Fox gig has given him an inflated sense of importance.

49 itellu3times  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:27:54am

Hi, how is everyone around the cracker barrel this morning?

Charles, you were in the lead on looking at the Larry Johnson source on this. Beckel is right 'round the bend on this.

(hey Rush, it's Hannity who has been making noises for *months* about having some magic tape of something, betcha that's where Larry Johnson got the idea, or just the license, to toss out this idea)

50 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:15am

I think, given WAB's reacor, everyone thought it could be true. It's just that, given Johnson's record, it was unlikely to be true. And now Bob "Cracker" Beckle wants to claim a Kos Kid is Conservative?

Am I the only one that smells desperation?

51 gibsonz  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:23am

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

After two, Tiger Even, Rocco +1.

Glad to see Tiger didn`t double bogey #1 for a change.

52 redheadredstate  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:37am

Same old Democratic tactic..if you can't beat it, smear it!

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:43am

re: #49 itellu3times

I can't stand Hannity. Does that make me a Lib?

54 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:50am

re: #48 Ben Hur

2 things.

1. I seem to recall Beckel himself buying into the rumor.

2. I 100% remember hearing Beckel on Hannity's radio show accusing Wolfowitz of "SALUTING TWO FLAGS" (ISrael and US) and Hannity saved his ass by asking him multiple times if he wanted apologize.

His Fox gig has given him an inflated sense of importance.

Yep. He looks pretty inflated to me as well.

55 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:51am

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

Alexandria, VA, huh. Abdullah Hamid? Maryam Soheyla Massihi? -These were some of the blackmailers. Hmmm.

56 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:07am

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

Flashback...here is Bob Beckel's hooker.

My my.

We have a "I marched in Selma!" moralizer.

57 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:16am

Merely coincidence that the MSM have blacked-out Obama shunning his cousin Odinga's visit today?

‘No plans’ for Odinga-Obama meeting

Senator Barack Obama is absent from the list of dignitaries with whom Prime Minister Raila Odinga is scheduled to confer during his current visit to Washington... The Kenyan-American presidential candidate may wish to avoid meeting with the PM due to concerns that such contact would be used to stoke rumours intended to wound Senator Obama politically.

Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialist.

Is this why Left-wing attack machines are flinging these slanders at conservative bloggers?

/haters!

58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:22am

re: #51 gibsonz

Glad to see Tiger didn`t double bogey #1 for a change.

Did you see his reaction from the first tee shot. Looked at Rocco and laughed.

59 bosforus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:22am

re: #33 Bob in Breckenridge

You must be watching on Rush 24/7, huh?

Nah, just listening.

60 itellu3times  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:37am

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't stand Hannity. Does that make me a Lib?

Probably too meaty for you.

61 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:37am

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I try to avoid writing if goddess is around.

/

62 winston06  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:55am

Leftists are racist, shameless and idiot. Thats all I can say about the Leftism now

63 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:58am

re: #43 MandyManners

35C-25-24? Gotta' be a typo.

Her hips are at least a 34.

64 MrC_5150  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:17am

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't stand Hannity. Does that make me a Lib?

That makes you a great American!

65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:21am

Holy Crap, what a shot (by Rocco)!

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:47am

re: #61 OldLineTexan

Can't sez I blames ya!

67 itellu3times  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:31:28am

re: #43 MandyManners

35C-25-24? Gotta' be a typo.

I think she had her right hip surgically removed, and Beckel paid for it. Spread the word.

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:31:41am

re: #62 winston06

Leftists are racist, shameless and idiot. Thats all I can say about the Leftism now

All your leftism are belong to us!

69 mj  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:31:56am

Here's another smear that New York Times hatchet columnist Frank Rich is promoting. In yesterday's column, Rich wrote the following:


"The same Republican operatives who gleefully insulted Hillary Clinton ..."

Excuse me? My reading was that it was the Obama campaign, including the readership of the Daily Kos, who "gleefully insulted Hillary Clinton".
Anyone remember Randi Rhodes calling Clinton a "bitch"?
What was the line that Obama foreign policy ( and Jew-hater ) S. Powers called Clinton?

70 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:32:07am

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't stand Hannity. Does that make me a Lib?

He does a pretty good job of cracking on the GOP about immigration, spending, etc., but I can't stand it when he talks to Pat Buchanan. I used to listen to his radio show on the way home; now I listen to Hugh Hewitt.

71 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:32:43am

re: #69 mj

Rhodes was just drunk.

/

72 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:33:24am

re: #67 itellu3times

I think she had her right hip surgically removed, and Beckel paid for it. Spread the word.

Business decision?

73 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:33:27am

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't stand Hannity. Does that make me a Lib?

No

74 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:33:30am

re: #69 mj

Here's another smear that New York Times hatchet columnist Frank Rich is promoting. In yesterday's column, Rich wrote the following:


"The same Republican operatives who gleefully insulted Hillary Clinton ..."

Excuse me? My reading was that it was the Obama campaign, including the readership of the Daily Kos, who "gleefully insulted Hillary Clinton".
Anyone remember Randi Rhodes calling Clinton a "bitch"?
What was the line that Obama foreign policy ( and Jew-hater ) S. Powers called Clinton?

Down is up, up is down, etc.

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:33:34am
76 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:33:38am

To the MSM , even if untrue, the story should be true. So therefore it is.

77 Wetfun  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:34:40am

Good, they will direct more people to the truth, and away from the MSM

78 Max Darkside  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:34:52am

re: #63 Ward Cleaver

Her hips are at least a 34.

That would be about 1 axe handle (34-36")

79 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:34:54am

re: #76 pat

To the MSM , even if untrue, the story should be true. So therefore it is.

Quick, someone print up some documents so we can prove it!

80 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:29am

re: #78 Max Darkside

That would be about 1 axe handle (34-36")

I would not explain that reference, were I you. ;)

81 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:30am

Anyway, I'm a centrist.

"Right Wing" is madness,

"Left Wing" is madness,

extremists cause tragedies.

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:33am

re: #79 rhino2

Quick, someone print up some documents so we can prove it!

I HAVE M.S. WORD!

83 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:26am

Rush is destroying this story as we speak.

But it doesn't matter any more. AP's propagandist Nedra Pickler now sets the agenda.

84 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:32am

re: #56 Ben Hur

if your gonna pay, at least she should be hot and have a good dye job.

85 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:43am

re: #63 Ward Cleaver

Her hips are at least a 34.

37.

86 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:48am

re: #80 OldLineTexan

I would not explain that reference, were I you. ;)

No, please explain (as cleanly as possible). :-0

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:09am

re: #84 bellamags

And not have a penis.

88 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:19am

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

No, please explain (as cleanly as possible). :-0

Nope. No way.

89 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:25am
90 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:53am

re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, yeah. I saw it. Should have left it alone. But, how do you spell baloney. Bolony, Baloney, Bologna?

Where's Goddess when I need her.

re: #59 bosforus

Nah, just listening.

You had mentioned that Rush was talking about it. I'm listening on [Link: www.wabcradio.com,...] so I guess the internet feed runs a few seconds behind the radio broadcast, because when I read what you wrote, Rush had not yet started talking about it.

91 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:54am

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

Who, what, when, where, why and how.

Wish, want, weasel, whore, wrench and hide.

You're hired!

/MSNBC

92 Catttt  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:38:10am

Here is what I'd post if I were registered at one of the sites that are conveniently not mentioning that the lefties started this rumor:

Please remember that it was left-wing supporters like Larry Johnson and Bob Beckel who started/spread this rumor. Most of the conservatives I know rolled their eyes first thing, since Larry Johnson is a proven liar with a huge agenda. Not to mention that the whole story was stupid to begin with. I saw this rumor floated on left-wing sites. The conservative sites I read didn't post anything unless it was to scoff at Larry Johnson.

I may decide to register just to post this.

93 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:39:25am

re: #70 Ward Cleaver

He does a pretty good job of cracking on the GOP about immigration, spending, etc., but I can't stand it when he talks to Pat Buchanan. I used to listen to his radio show on the way home; now I listen to Hugh Hewitt.

I used to listen regularly as well, but he would piss me off something fierce when he would try to bully or shout down an argument that he could have easily defeated with reason. That kind of "McLaughlin-esque" (to coin a word) behavior consigned him to the sh*t bin for me.

94 redstateredneck  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:03am

re: #92 Catttt

Here is what I'd post if I were registered at one of the sites that are conveniently not mentioning that the lefties started this rumor:


I may decide to register just to post this.


Gird your loins against the onslaught of attack!

95 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:13am

re: #92 Catttt

Here is what I'd post if I were registered at one of the sites that are conveniently not mentioning that the lefties started this rumor:

I may decide to register just to post this.

Plus, how can you take someone who wears a dead animal for a toupee' seriously?

96 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:19am

We are the blame they've been waiting for.

97 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:19am

re: #69 mj

Here's another smear that New York Times hatchet columnist Frank Rich is promoting. In yesterday's column, Rich wrote the following:


"The same Republican operatives who gleefully insulted Hillary Clinton ..."

Excuse me? My reading was that it was the Obama campaign, including the readership of the Daily Kos, who "gleefully insulted Hillary Clinton".
Anyone remember Randi Rhodes calling Clinton a "bitch"?
What was the line that Obama foreign policy ( and Jew-hater ) S. Powers called Clinton?

Remember, the left rejects reality and inserts it's own.

98 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:01am

Wow, Rocco up by one over Tiger now. I hope Rocco wins, but I doubt it.

99 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:13am
100 bosforus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:15am

re: #90 Bob in Breckenridge

Interesting. After I posted that he started talking about some other general MSM/AP stuff but then he got back specifically to the "whitey" issue. Perhaps that's what happened.

101 Intrepid  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:43am

re: #81 Ojoe

Anyway, I'm a centrist.

"Right Wing" is madness,

"Left Wing" is madness,

extremists cause tragedies.

Hot wings are good, though, with a bit of Ranch dressing to dip 'em in...

102 sammysdad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:53am

Fake but accurate..

103 Max Darkside  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:00am

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

No, please explain (as cleanly as possible). :-0

Presuming you really want to know, often, in humor, people describe large ladies bottoms in metrics of "axe handles". This hooker's bottom is large enough to enter that realm.

104 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:13am

re: #97 Hard Right

Remember, the left rejects reality and inserts it's own.

Perception is reality....and the far left's perception is....skewed to say the least.

105 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:41am

re: #93 CIA Reject

I used to listen regularly as well, but he would piss me off something fierce when he would try to bully or shout down an argument that he could have easily defeated with reason. That kind of "McLaughlin-esque" (to coin a word) behavior consigned him to the sh*t bin for me.

McLaughlin at least has brains. Being glib and being smart are not always the same. Hannity has a good schtic but it definitely limited.

106 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:57am

re: #81 Ojoe

Anyway, I'm a centrist.

"Right Wing" is madness,

"Left Wing" is madness,

extremists cause tragedies.

Kill all the extremists! ....... Uhhhh, wait a minute....

107 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:43:30am

re: #100 bosforus

I believe David IV from Georgia said that the dittocam video feed on Rush 24/7 is about 45 seconds ahead of the radio broadcast, so I assumed you were watching.

108 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:43:38am

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Just as the HIV virus takes over a cell and replicates its own DNA in the nucleaus.

With the same effect on the host, at least mentally.

109 angst  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:44:32am

I don't want to sound too terribly provincial, but I would be willing to bet some people in my neck of the woods don't even know that "cracker" is a racist term. It started out being used in the South and I live in one of the whitest states in the country, so I just never heard it anywhere except on blogs with a national readership. And I do travel a lot, but never found myself in a situation where I'd hear that kind of thing, I guess.

I actually had to ask that a post containing the word be taken down from a post on TripAdvisor where it had sat for over a year. (They did, very quickly, kudos to TripAdvisor.) I don't know if that is apathy or, if people who use travel websites are likewise racist or simply don't realize what it means. Like we're kinda clueless about "baby momma" and things like that.

That being said, people appearing on national news shows almost certainly know what it means and it is inexcusable to let it slide.

110 bosforus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:45:24am

re: #107 Bob in Breckenridge

I believe David IV from Georgia said that the dittocam video feed on Rush 24/7 is about 45 seconds ahead of the radio broadcast, so I assumed you were watching.

Ah, now I understand. That's more likely.

111 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:45:47am

So why doesn't Hannity have Beckel on his show and grill him about this "creative" interpretation of the origins of the tape story? And while they're at it, they could discuss Beckel's use of ethnic/class slurs. WHY ISN'T FOX CALLING BECKEL TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS NONSENSE?

112 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:46:28am

Wag the Dog, campaign style. Create and circulate whispers of a rumor about BHO and then blame Conservatives for enquiring about the rumor.

113 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:46:31am

re: #101 Intrepid

Yum!

eat all you want!

114 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:29am

New thread!

115 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:35am

re: #106 Hard Right

I saw the bumper sticker once, that said:

"Death to All Fanatics"

BBL

116 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:50am

re: #111 wolfie

So why doesn't Hannity have Beckel on his show and grill him about this "creative" interpretation of the origins of the tape story? And while they're at it, they could discuss Beckel's use of ethnic/class slurs. WHY ISN'T FOX CALLING BECKEL TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS NONSENSE?

It does make me sad to see the number of news stations I'm willing to watch with any regularity start to go from 1 back to 0.

117 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:55am
re: #57 Terp Mole Merely coincidence that the MSM have blacked-out Obama shunning his cousin Odinga's visit today?

Is this why Left-wing attack machines are flinging these slanders at conservative bloggers?

Whether purposeful and orchestrated or coincidence... it's working.

Conservatives are back on defense... instead of playing offense.

118 yenta-fada  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:11am

From Drudge:
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Chinese communists prefer McCain to answer the phone at 3:00 am if there is trouble. If THEY get it, why can't the Americans?

119 kynna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:48am

The person who really needs to know this is a smear against 'conservative' blogs is McCain. He's big on jumping into the fray and scolding conservatives and I could so easily see him doing this. He's on such thin ice anyway and how is anyone on his campaign of missteps going to find out the true facts without them being shoved in his face?

I'm sending him a note with a link to this piece. I suggest others do the same.

It's so pathetic that you have to worry so much about your candidate stupidly stomping his base, but it's the way it is. :(

120 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:57am

re: #105 Quilly Mammoth

McLaughlin at least has brains. Being glib and being smart are not always the same. Hannity has a good schtic but it definitely limited.

OK, so maybe "Dornan-esque" is a better term :-). But seriously that strain of conservativism (Hannity, McLaughlin, Dornan and the like) drives me nuts because they do nothing but give ammunition to those who want to paint all conservatives as mean spirited. We don't need to be mean-spirited because the TRUTH is on our side! I would much rather they calmly and good naturedly present the truth like Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley did- it's really not that hard!

121 itellu3times  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:12am

re: #111 wolfie

So why doesn't Hannity have Beckel on his show and grill him about this "creative" interpretation of the origins of the tape story? And while they're at it, they could discuss Beckel's use of ethnic/class slurs. WHY ISN'T FOX CALLING BECKEL TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS NONSENSE?

I expect he will, aren't Beckel and Hannity good buds? I mean, up until now?

The Hannity show isn't much use when Hannity is talking, actually, just background noise, but he has a steady stream of guests, and for the most part he lets them talk.

And they sure play a lot of ads, I'm guessing 50% more than Rush, easily. I flip off the broadcast a lot.

122 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:15am

Hey Charles - sorta drive by post here - but maybe You should let Michelle Malkin know about us - she's been on Fox substituting for O'Reilly, and at other times and AT LEAST she ought to give Fox hell for that Bob Beckel’s scurrulous "reporting" or "Commenting" cause LGF gets it correct - always HAD it correct and she ought to know that (I don't know if she reads us or not and don't even know if she has us on her blogroll - you can see I don't get over there much, since for some reason she didn't approve my application to register there).

123 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:16am

re: #109 angst

I saw the word "saltine" used on a Daily News message board referring to the gentrification of Harlem.

124 DoubleU  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:10am

You wait until the pro-Obama media encourages riots if Obama looses.

125 angst  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:45am

re: #123 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Supersecret decoder ring password racism. Nice.
I guess they had to get it by the automatic censor.

126 daddycrack  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:11am

This is the same bob beckel who, the day after Bush won his second term, stated that we should let the south secede because since the north had rid them of slavery.

127 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:01am

re: #115 Ojoe

I saw the bumper sticker once, that said:

"Death to All Fanatics"

BBL

I love ironic humor.

128 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:20am

re: #123 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I saw the word "saltine" used on a Daily News message board referring to the gentrification of Harlem.

Hmmmm..........(trying to grasp Yankee slang)..
CRACKER = white guy w/o money
SALTINE= white guy w/ money

129 EmeraldLakeEyes  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:43am

re: #122 realwest

Wow Realwest! Did she give a reason?

130 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:51am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did anyone at LGF truly believe there was a "whitey tape"?

Me. People say all kinds of things when they think they are among friends. Add to that the delusion prevalent on the left that they are automatically above reproach, and that only whites can be racist, and you've got a situation where someone as angry as Michelle Obama could easily pop off. Few things loosen the tongue and tap the hidden recesses of the brain more than righteous indignation.

I still say its 50 - 50 that a tape exists... maybe not the speculated Mrs. Farrakahn/Trinity tape, but something similar and damaging. Just look at the way Trinity church has dealt with Barack's leaving... they blame politics instead of themselves. There hasn't been a shred of soul-searching about the rants of Reverend Wright or the divisive nature of his teachings. In an atmosphere like that all sorts of things get said, and some of it gets recorded.

131 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:00am

re: #128 wolfie

Hmmmm..........(trying to grasp Yankee slang)..
CRACKER = white guy w/o money
SALTINE= white guy w/ money

Wouldn't the white guy with money be a Ritz?

132 angst  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:07am

re: #128 wolfie

Clearly, it's about the salt.

133 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:48am

re: #109 angst

I don't want to sound too terribly provincial, but I would be willing to bet some people in my neck of the woods don't even know that "cracker" is a racist term. It started out being used in the South and I live in one of the whitest states in the country, so I just never heard it anywhere except on blogs with a national readership. And I do travel a lot, but never found myself in a situation where I'd hear that kind of thing, I guess.

I actually had to ask that a post containing the word be taken down from a post on TripAdvisor where it had sat for over a year. (They did, very quickly, kudos to TripAdvisor.) I don't know if that is apathy or, if people who use travel websites are likewise racist or simply don't realize what it means. Like we're kinda clueless about "baby momma" and things like that.

That being said, people appearing on national news shows almost certainly know what it means and it is inexcusable to let it slide.

Thanks for the advice, but does this mean I can now no longer say 'it was a cracker of a game?'

134 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:09am

re: #129 EmeraldLakeEyes
Nope - I "applied" and got no answer for a week or so, so I re-applied and still got no answer so I said to hell with it.

135 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:36am

re: #126 daddycrack

This is the same bob beckel who, the day after Bush won his second term, stated that we should let the south secede because since the north had rid them of slavery.

Sounds good to me!
As long as we can cut off the N Virginia suburbs of DC and leave them with you.

/jk, folks, jk

136 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:52am

First time I've been called a cracker by a fat white guy.
Does this mean I'm now an oppressed minority?

137 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:30am

re: #131 Hard Right

Perfect !

138 angst  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:48am

re: #133 yma o hyd

Thanks for the advice, but does this mean I can now no longer say 'it was a cracker of a game?'

If you did, I would have no idea what you meant, so that's just fine by me!

I told you I was terribly provincial.

139 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:03am

re: #136 Hard Right

First time I've been called a cracker by a fat white guy.
Does this mean I'm now an oppressed minority?

Size-ist!

140 Catttt  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:21am

re: #122 realwest

Hey Charles - sorta drive by post here - but maybe You should let Michelle Malkin know about us - she's been on Fox substituting for O'Reilly, and at other times and AT LEAST she ought to give Fox hell for that Bob Beckel’s scurrulous "reporting" or "Commenting" cause LGF gets it correct - always HAD it correct and she ought to know that (I don't know if she reads us or not and don't even know if she has us on her blogroll - you can see I don't get over there much, since for some reason she didn't approve my application to register there).

I know that Mrs. Malkin reads / checks LGF, because she once gave me a hat tip for info I'd posted here.

141 perdiem  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:41am

Isn't it all possible that the "whitey tape" was a last desperate attempt by a Clinton operative to salvage her nomination. The
spin now by her camp is "she didn't lose the nomination, the darn media
is SEXIST". It's all part of the same campaign that spread the rumor that Obama was Muslim, "as far as she knew".

142 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:08:38am

re: #138 angst

If you did, I would have no idea what you meant, so that's just fine by me!

I told you I was terribly provincial.

Phew, thats allright then!
We couldn't live without that expression in regard to our National game (rugby ...). Its used in previews, like looking forward to a cracker of a game, and in post-mortems, afterwards, obviously ...

143 tapeworm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:12:27am

I once had bobeckels but some PrepH made them go away.

144 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:26:00am

re: #140 Catttt Hey if I apply again, can I use your name as a reference or something?!

145 David Simon  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:09am

Oh no, Bob Beckel getting a hummer from a prostitute...brain bleach...get that image out of my head. I've got to stop reading LGF at lunch time.

146 David Simon  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:29:17am

re: #122 realwest

Hey Charles - sorta drive by post here - but maybe You should let Michelle Malkin know about us - she's been on Fox substituting for O'Reilly, and at other times and AT LEAST she ought to give Fox hell for that Bob Beckel’s scurrulous "reporting" or "Commenting" cause LGF gets it correct - always HAD it correct and she ought to know that (I don't know if she reads us or not and don't even know if she has us on her blogroll - you can see I don't get over there much, since for some reason she didn't approve my application to register there).

She reads LGF - and has said some very nice things:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

147 guzziguy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:36:25am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did anyone at LGF truly believe there was a "whitey tape"?

Had one shown up I'm sure it would have been, fake, but accurate."

148 Is it me?  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:39:16am

I had no idea what cracker meant!
In England we have a slang term *crackers* as in nuts, crazy etc
I think Yma has cracker as welsh slang for something really good.

He should never have used it, and as he did someone should have picked him up on it.
Obama is no uniter, I don't think I've ever heard so much racist cr*p and stirring.
Grrr

149 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:39:17am
150 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:43:43am

re: #146 David Simon
Those were indeed nice things she's said about Charles and LGF!
But she said them on January 11, 2005 - got anything more recent?
BTW - I'm not looking to start any fights here, it's just that I'm not so sure MM reads LGF often enough to get Charles point in this thread and she still has contacts at Fox.

151 David Simon  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:50:18am

re: #150 realwest

That I couldn't tell you. Fox does seem to "break" an awful lot of stories shortly after they've appeared on LGF. Hard to believe that it's just a coincidence.

152 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:04:05am

re: #151 David Simon

Oh yeah David, I've thought for quite a while now that SOMEONE at Fox reads LGF daily. Charles breaks stories or investigates the "sound bite" stories of the MSM and FOX comes on over, reads about it and whammo - there's something on Fox about it! LOL!
I'm also reasonably sure that Rueters and other news organizations read LFG quite frequently.

153 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:12:06am

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't stand Hannity. Does that make me a Lib?

I can't stand Mike Savage. Does that make me a red diaper doper baby?

154 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:14:14am

re: #131 Hard Right

Wouldn't the white guy with money be a Ritz?

Would a Jewish guy with money be a matzoh?

155 vagabond trader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:22:10am

These are troubling developments. An Obamaton barrage of whine, first the supposed whitey tape,the Obama smears site, the "cousin" problem, what next to blame on conservatives? Fast and vicious seems to be the order coming from the Obama camp.

156 Miss Molly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:54:00am

Bobbie Beckel is such a loud, overbearing, obnxious jerk I can not understand why people even use him on TV to represent the Dems viewpoint. The minute he starts talking his bias trash I tune him out as I am sure many others do as well.

Someone said on another thread that he and his wife recently divorced. I wonder what she will do with his trunk full of suspenders.

157 guitarguy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:20:21pm

Even if there was a tape of Mrs. 'Amazing Barry' referring to whites as 'whitey', 'cracker', or 'peckerwood'.......it wouldn't make a darn difference. The media would give it scant attention.

Face it, folks..........she's the next First Lady. We may as well start accpting it now..............*sigh*.....

158 byrule62  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:13:15pm

Good find Charles! I have updated the Beckel Wikipedia page to include his past misdeeds.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

159 Gmac  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:32:00pm

The mere fact that Johnson was the one touting the story was enough for me... Beckel evidently was in bed with him as he promoted the story to.

Whats really sad is that this story could be passed off as true because of Michelle's previous statements.

160 Skinless Frank  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:29:36pm

I tried to put the facts about the origin of the smear on the NYT's Caucus blog, but it got "moderated" into oblivion. I guess it didn't fit the narrative.

161 Pshawalaw  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:01:55am

re: #27 Intrepid

But I'll hazard a guess that none of us doubted that Michelle Obama could/would have made such outrageous statements about white people....

That is what gave the rumors any degree of possibility, isn't it; given what we have heard her say and the given the crowd she parlays with it causes one to believe the worst of her, including that she could parrot Farrakhan and blame whitey.

162 Pshawalaw  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:18:35am

re: #119 kynna

The person who really needs to know this is a smear against 'conservative' blogs is McCain. He's big on jumping into the fray and scolding conservatives and I could so easily see him doing this. He's on such thin ice anyway and how is anyone on his campaign of missteps going to find out the true facts without them being shoved in his face?

I'm sending him a note with a link to this piece. I suggest others do the same.

It's so pathetic that you have to worry so much about your candidate stupidly stomping his base, but it's the way it is. :(

This is so true of McCain, he actually believed that a Koran could fit down a toilet, he natural tendency is to accept the complaints of the Left without researching the legitimacy of those complaints; he will no doubt do the same on this issue.

163 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:52:15pm

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