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Obama Throws Kenyan 'Cousin' Under the Bus

Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:46:06 am PDT

Barack Obama is shunning his cousin Raila Odinga, prime minister of Kenya: ‘No plans’ for Odinga-Obama meeting.

And get a load of how this is portrayed in an article for Kenyan newspaper The Daily Nation, by Kevin J. Kelley (who teaches journalism at Saint Michael’s College in Vermont):

Mr Odinga has said he is a cousin of Mr Obama’s, although the senator’s representatives deny that the two men are related.

The Kenyan-American presidential candidate may wish to avoid meeting with the PM due to concerns that such contact would be used to stoke rumours intended to wound Senator Obama politically.

Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialist.

Bias? What bias? I don’t see any bias, do you?

(Hat tip: Terp Mole.)

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1 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:46:55am

How much longer till the bus has too much under it and it gets stuck in the Obama quagmire?

2 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:10am

Not supporting Obama is akin to Holocaust denial.

3 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:42am

Smears!

4 greenmamba  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:44am

He's not the cousin I met 20 years ago?

5 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:13am

Baseless bias all over the place.

6 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:22am
7 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:32am

That didn't take long.

8 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:46am

How dare we insinuate the Obamessiah is related to and supports a thug!

9 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:53am

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

How much longer till the bus has too much under it and it gets stuck in the Obama quagmire?

That's what lift kits were invented for.

10 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:00am
11 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:13am

Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialist.

Is he Amish?

12 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:15am

Obamas going to need 20"s on his bus to fit all the carnage underneath.

13 MJ  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:16am

When does Obama throw his half-brither under the bus?

Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim

"Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given.

As the Jerusalem Post reports, "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya."
[Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

14 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:22am

re: #5 debutaunt

Baseless bias all over the place.

Nice one. I nominate this as a rotating title.

15 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:28am

We've tested that demographic and found it incompatible with our meme.

16 dave in NC  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:35am

well, he ditched granny; odingas's only a cousin.

i see mcgovern and 1972 on the horizon.

17 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:45am

He actually used the phrase "Obama-haters"? Beyond belief.

18 Don  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:47am

How much trouble would a conservative or white candidate get in for shunning his African heritage/ties/relations?!?!?

19 Perry  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:59am

So his cousin is worse for his rep than Ahmadinnerjacket?

20 yenta-fada  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:00am

There is NOBODY out there safe from the Obama bus. Not a single country in the world is safe with Obama in a position of power.

21 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:07am

Time to go to a nuclear power two deck articulated bus with a bowling alley.

22 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:14am

Kenyan-American Presidential candidate?

23 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:22am
24 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:29am
The PM’s plane is due to touch down at Dulles International Airport shortly after 3pm Washington time.

Isn't this the guy whose supporters massacred hundreds of people because of an election "dispute?"

I love that all these upstanding leaders come and go into the US.

25 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:43am

re: #16 dave in NC

well, he ditched granny; odingas's only a cousin.

i see mcgovern and 1972 on the horizon.

Oh please, please, please! :-)

/McObamessiah

26 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:56am

re: #17 MandyManners

And this guy teaches journalism. Wow.

27 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:51:02am

re: #17 MandyManners

He actually used the phrase "Obama-haters"? Beyond belief.

Well yeah, if you dare disagree with the Obamessiah about anything, you hate him!

///

28 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:05am

I think it's preposterous that it's mere coincidence there's a complete American MSM blackout of this State visit.

But whether the MSM conservative blogger smears are purposeful and orchestrated or coincidence... it's working. Conservatives are back on defense... instead of playing offense.

Thanks for posting this, Charles, and reminding folks what's behind this foolishness... and hitting back.

29 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:07am

"Malik Obama is not the half-brother I knew."

30 MJ  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:21am

re: #27 Bob in Breckenridge

Well yeah, if you dare disagree with the Obamessiah about anything, you hate him!

///


Actually, if you disagree with Obamessiah about anything, then you're a racist.

31 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:22am

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

How much longer till the bus has too much under it and it gets stuck in the Obama quagmire?

Hey, BO! The bus driver says it's time to break out the tire chains!

32 bulwrk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:28am

I think if I knew obama I would just go get a good spot in line behind the bus

33 itellu3times  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:54am

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Calling Paul Shanklin!

Love the refrain!

34 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:58am
Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialis

t.

I believe it was Odinga who sat for the interview l and claimed he was close to Obama. Obama had months to discredit his association with this Islamic madman whose contribution to society was gang rapes in front of the victims family and public castration of Christians in the middle of though fares. For an English paper and the BBC, wherein he claimed his close relationship. I guess bloggers can no longer report the news.

35 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:02am

re: #30 MJ

Actually, if you disagree with Obamessiah about anything, then you're a racist.

/That too!

36 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:11am

We've grown up since 911 - we have blogs - and we can connect dots. Remember that FBI agent that reported all the Muslims taking flying lessons and how he had a bad feeling about it? Especially the ones that didn't care about landing? in today's media, i bet he would have gotten the message out.

37 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:16am

You go Obama!

/faster please

38 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:17am

re: #16 dave in NC


i see mcgovern and 1972 on the horizon.

McGovern didn't have the slavish devotion of hypnotized hysteria on his side, nor a weak and pathetic opponent such as McCain.

39 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:28am

re: #22 gop_patriot

Kenyan-American Presidential candidate?

Interesting. You only use a term like that if the person in question is an immigrant from another country.

So where's that real birth certificate, Senator Obama? What're you so afraid of?

40 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:14am

OT - sorry! - repeat post from last thread which I was typing while Charles was putting this thread up!

Hey Charles - sorta drive by post here - but maybe You should let Michelle Malkin know about us - she's been on Fox substituting for O'Reilly, and at other times and AT LEAST she ought to give Fox hell for that Bob Beckel’s scurrilous "reporting" or "Commenting" cause LGF gets it correct - always HAD it correct and she ought to know that (I don't know if she reads us or not and don't even know if she has us on her blogroll - you can see I don't get over there much, since for some reason she didn't approve my application to register there).

41 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:18am

Is Oprah under the bus, too? I'm losing track.

42 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:30am

re: #22 gop_patriot

Kenyan-American Presidential candidate?

My mind is still reeling from that one.

43 Osama Bin Porkchop  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:30am

Anybody want to start a betting line on when Obama throws his wife under the bus? :)

44 jetprop  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:31am

Believe me, when I say..there is no media bias...
/Baghdad Bob

45 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:44am

Iran Rejects Six-Nation Proposal

Iran said Saturday that a package of incentives offered by six countries was "out of the question" because it includes a demand for the country to suspend uranium enrichment activities. EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana presented the proposal to Iranian authorities Saturday on behalf of the U.S., China, France, Germany, Britain and Russia. He told reporters in Tehran that the offer was "generous and comprehensive and a starting point for real negotiations" on the country's nuclear program. But Gholam Hossein Elham, Iran's government spokesman, said, "If the package includes suspension, it is not debatable at all....Any precondition regarding suspension would be out of the question." (Washington Post)

Hmmm....

Not listening to diplomacy.

Saying NO to the US, France, Germany, Britain and Russia.

But he'll listen to Obama.

46 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:53am

re: #38 Russkilitlover

McGovern didn't have the slavish devotion of hypnotized hysteria on his side, nor a weak and pathetic opponent such as McCain.

Actually, among students and young people, he did, although I doubt anyone fainted upon seeing him.

47 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:56am
48 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:08am

re: #43 Osama Bin Porkchop

Anybody want to start a betting line on when Obama throws his wife under the bus? :)


I think he needs her on the mantle.

49 Intrepid  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:12am

re: #31 CIA Reject

Hey, BO! The bus driver says it's time to break out the tire chains!

There certainly is a massive snow-job from MSM going on here.

50 dave in NC  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:19am

re: #25 Honorary Yooper

i just don't think we're that stupid, as a nation.

51 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:46am

re: #26 gop_patriot

And this guy teaches journalism. Wow.

Moonbattery 101.

52 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:51am

re: #43 Osama Bin Porkchop

Anybody want to start a betting line on when Obama throws his wife under the bus? :)

OK, I'll take late August for the betting pool. ;-)

53 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:00am

re: #36 DistantThunder

We've grown up since 911 - we have blogs - and we can connect dots. Remember that FBI agent that reported all the Muslims taking flying lessons and how he she had a bad feeling about it? Especially the ones that didn't care about landing? in today's media, i bet he would have gotten the message out.

Just for accuracy....

54 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:10am

re: #27 Bob in Breckenridge

Well yeah, if you dare disagree with the Obamessiah about anything, you hate him!

///

I don't hate him. But, I have strong negative feelings for Soros.

55 formercorpsman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:29am

THIS is what the blogs should be hitting on.

Obama actually went to kenya, and did a political ad for Odinga.

The ass kissers are trying to get out ahead of this, and set the stage.

56 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:01am

re: #50 dave in NC

i just don't think we're that stupid, as a nation.

There are days I wonder. A little over 50% of registered voters were dumb enough to vote for Al Gore (thank God for the Electoral College).

57 MJ  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:03am

Famous Quotes:

Will Rogers:
"...I never yet met a man that I didn't like."

Barack Obama:
"...I never yet met a man that I couldn't throw under the bus"

58 conservativeChick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:03am

Obama's Bus:
[URL=[Link: img508.imageshack.us...]

59 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:07am
re: #24 Ben Hur Isn't this the guy whose supporters massacred hundreds of people because of an election "dispute?"

Yes, and now he wants to annoint himself the tribal elder of his Kikuyu victims.

Raila anointment facing difficulty

A number of prominent Kikuyu leaders said they were unaware of plans to anoint Raila Odinga as a Kikuyu elder... Raila Odinga comes from the Luo tribe to the west of Kenya. Mr Odinga ran for Kenya’s presidency in the December 2007 General Elections against President Mwai Kibaki, a Kikuyu. When Kibaki was declared winner, Odinga’s supporters from the Luo, Kalenjin and coastal tribes attacked Kikuyu-owned homes and businesses. The Kikuyu later launched their own retaliatory attacks in Naivasha and Nakuru. By the end of the violence in March, at least 1,500 people lay dead and close to 500,000 made homeless... The Kikuyu blame Raila for anti-Kikuyu rhetoric during last year’s campaigns, hence the controversy surrounding the proposed anointing of Raila as a Kikuyu elder.

/chutzpah on stilts!

60 dave in NC  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:10am

re: #38 Russkilitlover

well, george was the darling of the young, and all the lefties.

and he ran against richard m nixon.

61 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:21am

re: #41 Lively

Is Oprah under the bus, too? I'm losing track.

Yeah, but they had to call a tow truck because when she was thrown under it, it lifted the wheels off the ground.

62 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:26am

re: #54 MandyManners

I don't hate him. But, I have strong negative feelings for Soros.

Only conservatives are capable of racism and hate.

/so goes the media

63 Intrepid  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:30am

re: #40 realwest

Michelle doesn't sub for O'Reilly anymore since he wouldn't call Geraldo Rivera out on the comment Geraldo made about wanting to spit on Michelle Malkin if he could.

64 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:46am

The people on the bus go up and down, up and down....

65 Lobosan5  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:56am

as a friend of mine once told me:
Vermont is full of 'has-beens & never-weres' .
best to leave Vermont to the Old time farmers & their cows
instead of them 'educated fools'.

66 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:57:59am

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

IDF: Jenin Forces Not Fighting Terror - Yaakov Katz
On Sunday, top Israeli defense officials and IDF officers slammed two American-backed initiatives to deploy additional Palestinian forces in the West Bank, saying they are allowing terrorism to flourish. Defense officials say that since 600 PA soldiers trained by U.S. defense contractors in Jordan were allowed to deploy in Jenin last month, there has been an increase in terrorist activity in the city. On Sunday, a 20-kg. bomb detonated next to an IDF force in Jenin without causing any casualties. Terror suspects arrested by PA forces were usually released in a few days or just hours later, one defense official said. Weapons provided by the U.S. to the PA are finding their way to Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists in Jenin as well as in Nablus, a top officer in the IDF Central Command said. In addition, terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of the PA police and military. (Jerusalem Post)

*sigh*

The same shit over and over and over again.

Going to meeting.

67 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:03am

re: #54 MandyManners

I don't hate him. But, I have strong negative feelings for Soros.

I have strong negative feeling for both. I don't like Soros (may he rot), and I don't like Obama as a Chicago Machine Hack.

68 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:22am

re: #50 dave in NC

i just don't think we're that stupid, as a nation.

Well we did elect Bill Clinton..............twice................

69 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:22am

re: #56 Honorary Yooper

There are days I wonder. A little over 50% of registered voters were dumb enough to vote for Al Gore (thank God for the Electoral College).

To clarify, nobody was above 49% in 2000. Don't forget the Buchanan and Nader votes.

70 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:23am

re: #54 MandyManners

I don't hate him. But, I have strong negative feelings for Soros.

Soros I detest. POS of the highest order.

71 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:23am
72 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:25am

re: #26 gop_patriot

And this guy teaches journalism propaganda. Wow.


Fixed :-)

73 calvin coolidge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:31am

BHO will meet with any world troublemakers except for his cousin Raila.

74 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:32am

Does anyone but me suspect that the Obama campaign has established a new strike force to deal with bloggers who recently have high lighted his weaknesses? Such as his own website and its hate content and internet discussion about elements of his past, both true and untrue.

75 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:41am

re: #57 MJ

Famous Quotes:

Will Rogers:
"...I never yet met a man that I didn't like."

Barack Obama:
"...I never yet met a man that I couldn't throw under the bus"

Will Rogers never met obama.

76 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:42am

re: #59 Terp Mole

If Obama gets elected the Kenya will have its hand out, no?

77 kynna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:59:40am

re: #43 Osama Bin Porkchop

Anybody want to start a betting line on when Obama throws his wife under the bus? :)

I thought she threw him under the bus when her ratings tanked after she endorsed him.

78 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:59:53am

re: #70 Bob in Breckenridge

Soros I detest. POS of the highest order.

I have a hard time believing that someone that dirty hasn't done something that is a prosecutable offense.

79 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:59:59am

the=then

80 redheadredstate  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:10am

I keep thinking of actor Tim Robbins rant a few years ago about how there is a "chill wind" blowing from Washington. Between the smears about conservative bloggers, blackouts on news items that might discredit the Obamamessiah and turning Tim Russert's death into another excuse to diss the right I'm starting to feel that there is more than a chill wind blowing from the MSM, it's more like hurricane Katrina!

81 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:21am

re: #78 The Other Les

I have a hard time believing that someone that dirty hasn't done something that is a prosecutable offense.

He was convicted of something in France, IIRC.

82 akak  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:26am

re: #76 Lively

If Obama gets elected the Kenya will have its hand out, no?

They may still have fresh blood on those hands......

83 formercorpsman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:39am

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

Half way down on the right.

84 dave in NC  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:47am

re: #68 CIA Reject

you're right, of course.

BUT, clinton ran as a centrist, not a socialist.

85 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:55am

re: #69 JammieWearingFool

To clarify, nobody was above 49% in 2000. Don't forget the Buchanan and Nader votes.

Thanks. OK, more registered voters were dumb enough to vote for Gore over Bush in 2000. Thank goodness for the Electoral College. So I'm not so certain people aren't stupid enough to fall for the Obamessiah. That's why we, as the blogosphere, need to get the news out.

86 seekeroftruth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:01:06am

You mean the cousin Obama campaigned with in Africa? :

Kenyan Government calls Obama 'stooge' for Odinga.
Odinga and Obama are from the same Kenyan tribe.

In 2006 Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga.


Obama's Criticism Irks Kenyan Government

Government Says Obama Is A Stooge For Political Opposition

by Mike Flannery

(CBS) There are signs of tension between Sen. Barack Obama and African leaders. On Monday, Obama stepped up his criticism of government corruption in Kenya.

But as CBS 2 Political Editor Mike Flannery reports, the government fired back, saying Obama is a stooge for an opposing political party.

A surprise raid that seized and burned copies of Kenya's oldest newspaper, The Standard, still prompts journalists there to call last March 2 the darkest day in the more than 100 years they've been publishing.

"For us as an institution, I think it was the lowest point in the history of this newspaper," News Editor Douglas Okwatch said.

It was because of that raid that Sen. Barack Obama went to the Standard's offices. He declared that democracy can't work without freedom of the press and freedom of information.

"It is not just a loss for the Standard. It's a loss for the people of Kenya. So my hope is that this is one episode that won't be repeated," Obama said.

At the University of Nairobi two hours later, the senator offered more pointed criticism, something he's done almost every day since arriving last week. After remaining largely silent, the government of President Mwai Kibaki is beginning to respond, suggesting that Obama may have fallen under the spell of opposition leader Raila Odinga.

A potential presidential candidate himself, Odinga's been at Obama's elbow here fairly often and is a member of the Obama family's Luo tribe.

87 conservativeChick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:01:18am

re: #58 conservativeChick

Damn it the link won't work.
I try agian:
[Link: img508.imageshack.us...]

88 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:01:22am

re: #81 Hard Right

He was convicted of something in France, IIRC.

But that's France. So what?

89 shibumi  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:01:34am

By denying his relative, who indeed is a successful politician in Kenya, is Obama distancing himself from his own heritage? If so, how does that play with the "African-American" community in America, some of whom base their whole identity on their African heritage?

Conversely, how can Obama not claim his African cousin, and in the same breath, claim to be the first African-American presidential candidate?

I see some problems here.

/yes, I know successful politician and Kenya don't go together.

90 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:02am

re: #80 redheadredstate

I keep thinking of actor Tim Robbins rant a few years ago about how there is a "chill wind" blowing from Washington. Between the smears about conservative bloggers, blackouts on news items that might discredit the Obamamessiah and turning Tim Russert's death into another excuse to diss the right I'm starting to feel that there is more than a chill wind blowing from the MSM, it's more like hurricane Katrina!

I laugh when I think of that. Robbins looked like he was auditioning for a school play. Emote . . Emote . . .Emote!

91 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:03am
92 conservativeChick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:09am

re: #87 conservativeChick
Yes it work this time.

93 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:17am

re: #87 conservativeChick

Damn it the link won't work.
I try agian:
[Link: img508.imageshack.us...]

LOL!

94 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:25am
95 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:24am

re: #87 conservativeChick

Damn it the link won't work.
I try agian:
[Link: img508.imageshack.us...]

Obama's new bus.

96 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:42am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

wow, that's graphic

97 vapig  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:59am
Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialist.

I don't recall anyone saying the obamanation is an islamist. Socialist - yes. Marxist - definately. But islamist? Don't really need to - the racist hate-mongering church he belongs (belonged) to is quite detestable enough!

98 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:18am

There is a news chick who does traffic reports and such on our am station that carries Boortz, Rush and Hannity. Each time she read a negative story on Obama, half way through there seemed to be audio trouble. I KNOW she was doing it on purpose. BTW - I haven't heard her do any news lately. Maybe someone figured it out.

99 Carl in Jerusalem  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:22am

Good Morning Charles,

I sure hope that quote didn't come from Al-AP.

100 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:26am

re: #63 Intrepid
WHAT? Jerry Rivers (his given name) said, on air, that he wants to spit on Michelle Malkin?! WTH?
I've never had much respect for "Geraldo" since when he first hit the NYC TV local news his name was Jerry Rivers (I kid you not, I'm an eye and ear witness!) and then, when Network TV stations were looking for "minority" reporters he suddenly showed up with a mustache and the name Geraldo Rivera. Plus he's a crappy reporter and even worse commentator. Why in the world would he want to spit on MM?

101 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:32am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Obama's new bus.

I love it. Very, um, descriptive.

/WTF did they find that bus anyway?

102 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:42am

re: #85 Honorary Yooper
Final 2000 results.

I was wrong, nobody was above 48%.

103 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:44am

re: #84 dave in NC

you're right, of course.

BUT, clinton ran as a centrist, not a socialist.

Yes, and we were dumb enough to allow that deception to work not once but TWICE!

As Grandma said:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME!

BO is setting up the electorate to be fooled yet again- hopefully his campaign will implode before he can pull it off.

104 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:05:29am
105 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:05:39am

re: #89 shibumi

/yes, I know successful politician and Kenya don't go together.


IIRC, the people who had the contract to clean up a town marketplace collected the money and never bothered to do the job. So when someone else finally removed the layers of compacted trash they were surprised to find that the ground the marketplace stood on was paved.

106 conservativeChick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:05:39am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

ROTFLMAO!

107 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:05:45am

re: #100 realwest

Geraldo said he wanted to spit on her?

108 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:06:15am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

LOL

109 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:06:23am

re: #101 Honorary Yooper

I love it. Very, um, descriptive.

/WTF did they find that bus anyway?

I think it's from Germany. Here's a video.

110 kynna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:06:41am

The media is going to have to be called out again and again. They will just blatantly lie for this man.

And it's going to get worse.

111 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:06:59am

re: #106 conservativeChick

ROTFLMAO!

ditto. I still want to know where in the world they found that bus to take a picture of it. Somehow I doubt it is an English-speaking country.

112 bulwrk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:51am

re: #107 bellamags

its about her stand against illegal immigration.

113 redheadredstate  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:54am

Re # 104 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

The msm is in the last red glow of the after the fire moment in time,
embers now, glowing hot, but no fuel left to burn, and running low on lies to restart the fires of the past.

Damn TFK, that's eloquent

114 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:59am

And in any case I have an interview to go to.

Bye.

115 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:08:12am

re: #109 NJDhockeyfan

I think it's from Germany. Here's a video.

Thanks. I know a few in the office who'll get a kick out of it.

116 BGB!  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:08:54am

It must be 'standing room only' under that bus.

117 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:08:57am

re: #97 vapig

I don't recall anyone saying the obamanation is an islamist. Socialist - yes. Marxist - definately. But islamist? Don't really need to - the racist hate-mongering church he belongs (belonged) to is quite detestable enough!

Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialist.

The article says that odinga is an islamist not obama.

118 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:10:04am
#89 shibumi: By denying his relative, who indeed is a successful politician in Kenya, is Obama distancing himself from his own heritage? If so, how does that play with the "African-American" community in America, some of whom base their whole identity on their African heritage?

This has nothing to do with distancing from his heritage.

Obama is distancing himself from the slaughter, rape and mayhem perpetrated by his cousin, Odinga... the same Odinga who Obama flew to Nairobi to personally endorse. This constitutes Obama's ONLY overseas foreign policy experience.

119 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:10:14am

re: #112 bulwrk

He is a complete TOOL. His mustache probably smells like BROWN with all the pandering and butt kissing he does.

120 vxbush  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:10:50am

re: #117 VegasRick

Right-wing extremists have been circulating baseless claims on the Internet that Senator Obama is closely allied with Prime Minister Odinga, who is described by the Obama-haters as both an Islamist and a socialist.

The article says that odinga is an islamist not obama.

You know, going back and reading the paragraph again, I'm starting to think there was no editor to go through and clean up the obvious word choices in here. "Obama-haters" could easily have been changed to "opponents of the presidential candidate" or something else innocuous.

Interesting.

121 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:11:01am

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Time to re-fit that bus with monster truck tires, for the sake of clearance.

Or tracks.

122 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:11:34am

re: #104 taxfreekiller

Very well put, Sir.

123 seekeroftruth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:11:41am

What a liar Obama is .
Here's a link with a photo of Obama and Odinga while Obama was in Africa campaigning with Odinga ( On the left side )

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

124 alegrias  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:11:50am

Kenya was a relative safe haven of a country for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the ex-moslem Dutch Parliamentmember of Somali birth who was friends with Theo van Gogh.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali was also an intended target of the murderers, who tacked a five page letter addressed to HER on Theo Van Gogh's body. Ms. Hirsi Ali helped Van Gogh make his movie "Submission", she has written a book about her life called "Infidel" and she is now living under armed guard in the US.

It would be something if Kenya's Odinga stood up to Zimbabwe's Mugabe, with cousin Obama's loud support RIGHT NOW.

125 gymnast  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:11:52am

Right now the MSM thinks it owns Obama. If Obama were to be elected, the MSM would learn within about 5 minutes that the roles had been reversed. The MSM wheelers and dealers sees Obama as their path to real power instead of being mere assessors and little appreciate the fact that under Obama they will learn the Koranic meaning of "submission".

126 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:12:34am

re: #101 Honorary Yooper

I love it. Very, um, descriptive.

/WTF did they find that bus anyway?

I thought it was Fokker?

/old, bad joke

/"those fokkers"

127 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:12:59am

re: #120 vxbush

You know, going back and reading the paragraph again, I'm starting to think there was no editor to go through and clean up the obvious word choices in here. "Obama-haters" could easily have been changed to "opponents of the presidential candidate" or something else innocuous.

Interesting.

Real journalist do not use phrases like "Obama-haters". Would they use "Obama-lovers"for those who support him? Guy is a crank.

128 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:13:27am

re: #66 Ben Hur

Talk is cheap. And apparently Israeli lives are even cheaper - and that comes from listening to Yossi Beilin and other leftists who think that we really need to talk to Hamas to make them understand and accommodate Israel, when they seek nothing less than Israel's destruction.

129 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:13:58am

There are no conservative politicians or public figures who could withstand the amount of shady characters so closely tied to them as the nest of rats that have been tied to BHO for over 20 years. That BHO is still soaring tells me what all leftist elite influence and media coverage will be - a BHO landslide in Nov.

130 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:14:02am

re: #102 JammieWearingFool Yeah, but don't forget this country elected Jimmy Carter during very tough economic times due to the OPEC embargo.
Of course Jimmy, being Jimmy, simply made it even worse economic times cause he's basically
STUPID.
I fear the same will happen with Obama.

131 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:14:15am

re: #123 seekeroftruth

What a liar Obama is .
Here's a link with a photo of Obama and Odinga while Obama was in Africa campaigning with Odinga ( On the left side )

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

Look like they're signing a duet.

/and i, had, the time of my li-i-ife...

132 Perry  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:14:19am

re: #100 realwest


Michelle Malkin "spit" controversy
On September 1, 2007, Rivera criticized Fox News Channel contributor and substitute host Michelle Malkin when he was quoted in a Boston Globe interview as saying,[19]

"Michelle Malkin is the most vile, hateful commentator I've ever met in my life", he says. "She actually believes that neighbors should start snitching out neighbors, and we should be deporting people. “It's good she's in D.C. and I’m in NY. I’d spit on her if I saw her.”[20]

Geraldo apologized publicly on The O'Reilly Factor on September 14, 2007 stating that it was "ungentlemanly" of him to say that.[21]

Michelle Malkin considered his apology a farce and has decided to stop appearing on The O'Reilly Factor as she felt the show mishandled the situation.[22]

---Wiki

133 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:14:39am

re: #131 Ward Cleaver

Look like they're signing a duet.

/and i, had, the time of my li-i-ife...

singing

PIMF

134 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:14:58am

"For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of Kenya, because it feels like hope is making a comeback."

135 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:15:14am

re: #107 bellamags
Read my post again - I was referring to something Intrepid said at #63.

136 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:15:19am

re: #117 VegasRick

The article says that odinga is an islamist not obama.

The evidence shows Odinga is an Islamist, too.

Odinga signed a published "Declaration of Understanding" with Kenya's National Muslim Leadership Forum with 13 chapters which should shock anyone. It begins; "WHEREAS The Candidate [Raila Odinga] - who recognizes Islam as the only true religion - is seeking to become the next President of the Republic of Kenya..."

137 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:15:42am

re: #123 seekeroftruth

That's not the photo of Odinga Obama knew. /

138 vxbush  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:15:58am

re: #127 VegasRick

Real journalist do not use phrases like "Obama-haters". Would they use "Obama-lovers"for those who support him? Guy is a crank.

Yes, his belief system is coming out loud and clear. But to be honest, I could see a lot of writers (especially at AP) who would write text that would look extremely hateful to us except that most of the terms are excised. (A few still get out, as we know that are associated with terrorists based on their photo ops.)

139 seekeroftruth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:17:03am

re: #137 lawhawk

LOL

140 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:17:46am

re: #137 lawhawk

That's not the photo of Odinga Obama knew. /

Obama's about to shove Odinga on top of Hillary.

/blink

141 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:18:27am

re: #113 redheadredstate

Re # 104 taxfreekiller

Damn TFK, that's eloquent

Genius.

142 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:18:37am

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Time to re-fit that bus with monster truck tires, for the sake of clearance.


Is this a bus from Gotharm Bus Comapny--"To the Moon Alice To the Moon"

143 opnion  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:00am

No bias in that report. Whether or not this Islamist thug is a cousin or an associate is not relevant(obama descibed him as a friend)
Less than two years ago Obama was in Kenya campaigning for Odinga to become President of Kenya. There is film.
The Obama Ministry of Propaganda can do all of the indignant spinning , that they want, but no credible persion has this many nefarious associations.

144 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:29am
145 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:42am

When will a viral You Tube video be created, independently of McCain, depicting this Obamabus crashing over and treading upon Rev. Wright, the Trinity Congregation, Jim Johnson, Odinga and all the rest?
I t could be done through special effects or cartoon and would be better than a swift boat.

146 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:47am

bbiab

147 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:54am

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

Obama down-dings Odinga?

And I up-dinged you!

148 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:20:10am
149 MrC_5150  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:20:21am

re: #123 seekeroftruth

What a liar Obama is .
Here's a link with a photo of Obama and Odinga while Obama was in Africa campaigning with Odinga ( On the left side )

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

But wait, there's more.

150 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:20:22am

Backing the truth out of this will help everyone. Does anybody have a link or other data that specifies the exact nature of the blood relationship? I know I always raise an eyebrow when my wife mentions her "cousins". She uses this word to mean somebody vaguely related to her. Given the nature of the people being born to multiple wives, it does not take much for somebody to be your cousin in the factual meaning of the word in that country. The combos get mind boggling when you take into account the fact that Obama' father had another wife back in Kenya and she may have had brothers who were married to multiple wives, etc. I do not know the exact relationship and wonder if there is anyone who has it down.

151 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:20:28am

Children’s Viewpoints of McCain vs Obama

This morning was very interesting. One of the 16 year old kids around here asked me what “hood” Obama came from. I said, “what do you mean hood?” He said that Obama talks like a gangster rapper and tries to act like a kid. Ok, now he has my interest so I asked if he was referring to the “gun and knife” remark Obama made and he said, “Ya, and it is off some TV show with the Chicago gangsters people in it or something. I seen a bit of it on TV and it is stupid.” He continued, “Obama isn’t tough. He doesn’t know the streets and lives in an unreal world.” He looked right at me then said, “If I could vote I would not vote for Obama. He doesn’t care about anyone but himself and his wife is just plain scary. I saw someone who looks like her in a zombie movie.” Next this teenager added, “Have you ever thought about having them in the white house? I don’t want him for President as he is too into his own world to be aware of ours. The guy is a moron. Obama copies everyone else all the time and pretends he has the idea. We would get kicked out of school for that. ” Then he further stated, “Ya that is right he is Obama and no one can do anything to him or his thugs will beat you up.” Finally, he grabbed a coke and as he headed for the door, he paused and made me promise to vote for McCain. He told me that McCain reminded him of his grandpa and he can fly airplanes and all Obama can fly is himself and he indicated snorting cocaine. He sort of smiled and said, “At least McCain actually is cool and Obama is just trying to act cool” then walked out.

Teenagers get it.

152 bill-tb  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:20:31am

Comrade Obama wants to have nothing to do with his Marxist family ruling Kenya. I wonder why?

153 mean Gene  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:21:47am

Charles, why no photos?
[Link: images.google.com...]

154 paradox42  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:22:43am

Come November, whoever sells buses to the Obama campaign will be richer than Bill Gates.

155 seekeroftruth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:22:49am

re: #153 mean Gene

Charles, why no photos?
[Link: images.google.com...]


Excellent block of photos

156 snowcrash  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:23:17am

Obama haters? I think the phrase a professional would use is Obama critics. This is the problem, all criticism of Obama is called hate.

157 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:24:23am

re: #149 MrC_5150

obvious photoshop job by some right-wing smear monger!

158 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:24:32am

re: #152 bill-tb

Comrade Obama wants to have nothing to do with his Marxist family ruling Kenya. I wonder why?

Not until after the election. I don't think all those people are being "thrown" under the bus, I think they are being stored under the bus.

159 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:24:52am

re: #130 realwest,

Anybody who's paying attention knows that the best we can hope for from Obama is Carter II. And that is only if he just does what he's promised to, and no one like, say, Iran does something really nasty like nuke someone.

We can anticipate terrorism to get a jump-start when Obama starts negotiating with the likes of Hamas.

Maybe gas at $7 a gallon will teach us not to trust the Democrats. I can't believe they've put a moritorium on oil shale experimentation, but there you have it. The Donks want high gas prices.

I can't believe Obama stands a chance, but everyone expects him to win. Goes to show what I know, I guess.

160 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:25:23am

re: #145 mean Gene

I'm picturing it done Jib-Jab style.

161 opnion  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:25:30am

Does this mean that Odinga will not be invited to the White House Eid celebration with the Obamas?

162 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:26:08am

re: #134 Diamond Bullet

"For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of Kenya, because it feels like hope is making a comeback."

Most of the population is saying "I HOPE I don't get killed"

163 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:26:48am

re: #124 alegrias

Kenya was a relative safe haven of a country for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the ex-moslem Dutch Parliamentmember of Somali birth who was friends with Theo van Gogh.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali was also an intended target of the murderers, who tacked a five page letter addressed to HER on Theo Van Gogh's body. Ms. Hirsi Ali helped Van Gogh make his movie "Submission", she has written a book about her life called "Infidel" and she is now living under armed guard in the US.

It would be something if Kenya's Odinga stood up to Zimbabwe's Mugabe, with cousin Obama's loud support RIGHT NOW.

This is a more complete description of the murder: He shot him eight times with an HS 2000 handgun, and Van Gogh died on the spot. Bouyeri then cut Van Gogh's throat, nearly decapitating him, and stabbed him in the chest. Two knives were left implanted in his torso, one attaching a five-page note to his body.

164 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:26:55am
165 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:08am

re: #156 snowcrash

Obama haters? I think the phrase a professional would use is Obama critics. This is the problem, all criticism of Obama is called hate.

Professional? I can't remember the last one of those we had reporting the news.

166 Reno911  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:10am

My bat-sense tells me that someone is running a fairly sophisticated "False Flag" op against perceived "right-wing" media outlets. The purpose of the false flag op is to "inoculate" BHO against negative reporting from those same media outlets. I find it highly suspicious that BHO starts a "Fight the Smear" website just in time to perpetuate the lie that "right-wing" media outlets are smearing BHO. In short, I question the timing. Has anybody seen Valerie Plame or Joe Wilson lately?

167 lookingaround  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:12am

Um...er...awwwwww...UM...how do you expect me to know if Odinga VETS the vetters....um...er...ahhhh...WE don't even do that here.

168 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:15am

re: #156 snowcrash

Obama haters? I think the phrase a professional would use is Obama critics. This is the problem, all criticism of Obama is called hate.

I'm surprised it didn't say "racists" since according to the MSM, the only people who won't vote for Obama are racists.

169 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:28:32am

re: #85 Honorary Yooper

Thanks. OK, more registered voters were dumb enough to vote for Gore over Bush in 2000. Thank goodness for the Electoral College. So I'm not so certain people aren't stupid enough to fall for the Obamessiah. That's why we, as the blogosphere, need to get the news out.

I don't think voting for Gore in 2000 was anywhere near as dumb as voting for Obama would be. To the average voter Gore was just the VP of a mostly successful administration. He was not tainted as Clinton himself was by seediness. Few people at that time realized how sloppy Clinton had been on foreign policy and no one could have known how his negligence would come back to bite us on 9/11. The fact that Gore lost Tennessee shows me that, where the average voter knew a bit more about the guy, they rejected him.

Re the "successful administration," many (most?) voters probably didn't realize that "Clinton's" successes were almost all attributable to the 1994 Rep Congress.

170 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:28:34am

re: #149 MrC_5150
Caption worthy:
Raise your hands like this if you want to see me throw Odinga under the bus?

171 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:29:28am

re: #149 MrC_5150

But wait, there's more.

The second part of the duet!

/and i never felt this way before

172 looking closely  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:29:29am

Let's see.
Obama's half brother thinks Obama is a Muslim.
Obama's Kenyan cousin is an Islamist.
Obama says his grandfather is a Muslim.
Obama says in his autobiography that he studied the Koran in grade school.
Obama said the Islamic call to prayer is one of the most beautiful sounds in the world, and can still recite it, as reported by the New York Times.

So why would anyone think Obama is a Muslim?

173 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:29:35am

re: #170 lawhawk

haha...

alternate caption: "raise your hands if this isn't the Odinga you knew"

174 bellamags  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:29:36am

re: #135 realwest

Wow. I didn't even know this. I watch Fox all the time. Not because I love it, it is just easier to stomach that the MSM.

175 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:30:02am

I can't believe Obama stands a chance, but everyone expects him to win. Goes to show what I know, I guess.

Fist, I think the media has a lot to do with it. They like him, they want him, and they aren't going to report on him negatively.

I hate to say this, but I actually know a Republican (granted, just one) who "likes" him and is considering voting for him. It shows you the cult of personality that has developed around this guy, cultivated by the media.

Ugh.

176 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:30:27am

Thats very poor strategy from the Obamessiah camp.
Not to see a relative (whom one did visit a couple of years ago) because the baaad right-wing bloggers might perhaps smear him with that association?
That, to me, spells a man who has no spine and who is a coward, fearing possibilities, not actual events.

Would a man of honour do such a thing?
I don't think so ...

177 HugoChavez  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:31:46am

Stop it! Stop it all of you!

Soros and Strong promised me that our useful idiot would become president!

178 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:31:52am

re: #172 looking closely,

It should be obvious that Obama is Amish. The Amish middle name is a giveaway.

179 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:33:12am

re: #178 Iron Fist

If he's Amish, does that mean he's been throwing people under the buggy?

180 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:33:27am

re: #178 Iron Fist

,

It should be obvious that Obama is Amish. The Amish middle name is a giveaway.

That must be why he wants to stop technological advancement, especially that evil "defensive" technology.

It all makes so much sense now!

181 lookingaround  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:34:28am

re: #179 schultzw

If he's Amish, does that mean he's been throwing people under the buggy?


In Kenya, the preferred method is throwing them under ox-carts.

182 Colin Nelson  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:34:59am

Given that his (Kelley's) partner is a "butter maker' no wonder he comes by dealing with smears naturally...

183 seekeroftruth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:35:51am

The Obama people are probably afraid that we would notice this part of Odinga's policy:

[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]

...Raila has now made a deal for support from the Soviets' successors as world-champion enemies of the West and democratic freedoms: Muslim fundamentalists... The Evangelical Alliance of Kenya has posted on its website a photograph copy of a Memorandum of Understanding, dated and signed on August 29, 2007, between Raila Odinga and Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya...

It pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila's election. In return, as President of Kenya, Raila agrees to 14 actions, listed a) through n) on page two. Read them all, and be sure you're sitting down. Here's a sample:

b) Within 6 months re-write the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions.

g) Within one year facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenyan divisional headquarters. [Note: everywhere in Kenya, not just in "Muslim declared regions."]
184 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:37:04am

re: #143 opnion

Of course there is film showing Obama promoting Odinga. But who's going to see it? Of course Odinga is a Muslim, socialist, and tribal fanatic who incited violence over his election loss. So? Who knows that.

If the MSM says the association between Obama and Odinga is a right-wing extremist lie, that's the way it is.
If the MSM says right-wing extremists claim Odinga is an Islamist and socialist, then all we learn is that Odinga is NOT those things and that RW extremists are so evil they say he is.
A RWE is anyone who articulates anything negative about Obama, including the simplest, most easily provable fact. That's the way it is.

This is ugly.........and promises to get uglier.

185 right_on_target  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:38:04am

re: #101 Honorary Yooper

I love it. Very, um, descriptive.

/WTF did they find that bus anyway?


Fücker Reisen - Touring Bus - Germany

186 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:38:13am

re: #151 NJDhockeyfan

Children’s Viewpoints of McCain vs Obama

Teenagers get it.

Brilliant!
Yep - they do get it, because teenagers are very very savvy in regard to all the new social networking sites, imagings, adverts: they can see that he's a walking advertisement, not a real person, not like somebody's grandpa...,

187 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:39:08am

re: #150 Shr_Nfr

Backing the truth out of this will help everyone. Does anybody have a link or other data that specifies the exact nature of the blood relationship? I know I always raise an eyebrow when my wife mentions her "cousins". She uses this word to mean somebody vaguely related to her. Given the nature of the people being born to multiple wives, it does not take much for somebody to be your cousin in the factual meaning of the word in that country. The combos get mind boggling when you take into account the fact that Obama' father had another wife back in Kenya and she may have had brothers who were married to multiple wives, etc. I do not know the exact relationship and wonder if there is anyone who has it down.

I ran across Obama's family tree a couple of weeks ago and it went back several generations--I will have to see if I can find it again.

188 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:39:55am

re: #184 wolfie

Who knew the VRWC (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy) could have ever grown so large as to create every piece of negative press in existence around a single individual. Amazing!

189 Lizard by the Bay  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:41:10am

"He's not the Islamist, Sharia-imposing dictator cousin I used to know."

190 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:42:13am

re: #176 yma o hyd

Wrong.
It's excellent strategy when you have a fully cooperative media.
Most voters don't even know he has a Kenyan cousin, much less do they know anything about the scoundrel. Why bring it up?
You know the MSM won't.
And if they do, it will only be in a context of smearing anyone who even asks about the association as a "right-wing bigot."

191 Vergeltung  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:43:16am

re: #177 HugoChavez

Stop it! Stop it all of you!

Soros and Strong promised me that our useful idiot would become president!

how goes the revolucion, amigo?

192 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:43:34am
re: #184 wolfie If the MSM says the association between Obama and Odinga is a right-wing extremist lie, that's the way it is.

Snopes has declared the Obama-Odinga connection a FALSE internet rumor.

/'nuf said (channelling Obama)

193 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:44:14am

re: #184 wolfie

I'm afraid you're right - its as if they are starting to occupy what they deem to be the high ground, from which to attack.

I do hope some people in the McCain camp are actually taking notice and thinking of counter-strategies.

194 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:44:34am

re: #192 Terp Mole

Snopes has declared the Obama-Odinga connection a FALSE internet rumor.

/'nuf said (channelling Obama)

As you said.....'nuf !

195 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:46:24am
196 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:49:06am

re: #190 wolfie

Sigh.
I overlooked the 'fully cooperative MSM' ...
Must be because I've never experienced anything like this.
Until now there were always two or three dissenting papers/tv channels and editors, who prided themselves on looking at and reporting facts, not 'feelings'.

What is really incredible is that the MSM in europe are also falling all over themselves in their praise for BHO.

197 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:49:13am

re: #192 Terp Mole

Snopes has declared the Obama-Odinga connection a FALSE internet rumor.

/'nuf said (channelling Obama)

Oh great. Snopes is the final word on reality.

198 seekeroftruth  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:50:55am

re: #192 Terp Mole

Snopes has declared the Obama-Odinga connection a FALSE internet rumor.

/'nuf said (channelling Obama)


They didn't do their research or they've jumped on to the Obama wagon.

199 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:52:52am

re: #192 Terp Mole

Snopes has declared the Obama-Odinga connection a FALSE internet rumor.

/'nuf said (channelling Obama)

Please ignore the man behind the curtain. Or at least the man behind the Islamist, Sharia imposing dictator. (to quote Lizard by the Bay)

200 abolitionist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:57:42am

re: #29 NJDhockeyfan

"Malik Obama is not the half-brother I knew."

According to the Baby Name Wizard, the popularity of the name Malik was about 40 per million in the 60's and 70s (in the US, I presume), but much more popular in the 90s.

I'll boldly speculate that's because of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz.

According to Wikipedia,

Malik (Arabic: ملك ) is an Arabic word meaning "king". It has been adopted in various other, mainly Asian languages, and it is sometimes used in derived meanings. Malik is one of the names of Allah, "King" in the absolute sense.

Am I being unfair?

201 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:00:29am

re: #192 Terp Mole Hmm, well I just e-mailed Snopes with a comment based on this thread and with a link to this thread and Charles comments and links above.

202 MarineMomSue  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:03:11am

I suggest the obamameisters build 'magic bus stops' across the country.

They can't risk missing any of the growing number of qualified 'underbussers' before the general coronation...I mean election.

Using the existing campaign schedule to identify prime locations would also save bus fuel costs. They could buy carbon credits from algore and score big PR points touting their contribution to saving the planet from global warming. It's a win-win, right?

203 looking closely  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:34:43am

re: #178 Iron Fist

To be clear, nobody thinks Obama is a practising Muslim (though I do hear he is looking for a new Church).

The fact that the Muslims want to claim him as one of their own also doesn't make him a Muslim.

Though I do think it is reasonable to wonder to what extent his Islamic background has affected his beliefs (just as it is reasonable to wonder what sitting in Reverend Wright's church for 20 years has done to them).

204 Miss Molly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:34:58am

If Obama is elected all will be forgiven in order to have closer family ties with his African extended family members. I guess this means that for Kenya the blank check from Uncle Sam is in the mail.

205 satan sidekick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:52:54am

re: #123 seekeroftruth


This is too much. Yet the MSM looks the other way.

206 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:53:08am

re: #187 Inquisitive

Thank you.

207 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:57:02am

The claimre: #206 Shr_Nfr

The claim is that Odinga's father is Obama's maternal uncle. Presumably to Obama Sr.'s other wife.

208 Miss Molly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:12:18pm

How many official and unofficial wives are out there? I can't keep track of all the wives and cousins and near cousins and "sort of" cousins.

209 Terp Mole  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:56:10pm

Diggtard spits;

During Obama's trip to Nairobi he spoke to students about the corruption of current-president Kibaki's government. At no time did he mention Odinga, so that makes Little Green Footballs a bunch of disgustingly libelous liars. I wish I actually worked for the Obama campaign because I would have no problems initiating a lawsuit against LGF on his behalf...

LGF = cheap libelous liars who make a living by taking advantage of the mentally retarded

/smells gamey

210 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:05:11pm

re: #209 Terp Mole

Diggtard spits;

/smells gamey

Report those comments to Digg. This jerk is one of the creeps who stalks LGF, and every time you see one of his comments you should report it. Takes one click.

211 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:16:39pm
212 satan sidekick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:20:55pm

Wow Diggtard has overdosed on Obama kool aid.

The story is true. I even wrote to the missionaries at their website and they replied to my email.This was several months ago so I longer longer have the email. Here is their website:

[Link: www.lorendavis.com...]

213 satan sidekick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:30:23pm

I meant "I no longer have the email"

214 walahi  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:32:38pm

What the conservative base needs to remember is to keep on getting Obama on the substance of his stance. They want conservatives to chase stories about Odinga and fake 'whitey' tapes and anything else they can distract conservatives with.

Obama is running a campaign based partly on his 'redeemer of America' theme and partly on the victimhood theme. What do I mean? I mean that if Obama loses, it won't be because his policy was deemed to be ineffective, nope, it will be because the 'right wing operatives' (as if Republican ninjas are out there - Just like they got Dan Rather!) did him in. It's not because people feel Obama is inexperienced, its because its his race.

Someone pointed out earlier, to not support Obama has become akin to denying the Holocaust for the media. If you are against Obama you are a) a racist and b) intellectually challenged [because how can you NOT see how great Obama is and what wonders he will bring to America?]

The media has effectively silenced any Obama criticism, disagreements and any other fact finding. Nope. Obama has cornered the media. Even if Barry were to punch a baby on stage, there would be silence from the media. There is no touching this guy.

215 satan sidekick  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:38:19pm

re: #214 walahi

Even when a story is true they deem it false with the help of Snopes. Snopes is the moonbat bible

216 big L  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:03:56pm

hahaha. El Presidente de Cuidado...won't meet with his cousin. will meet with dictators that will tear his face off.LOLOLOL-Hahahahaha!

217 big L  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:07:11pm

What about the Soeteros, and the rest of the Obamas over there in Africa?He was using the name Barry Soetero in Hawaii, or is that another internet rumor?
Not here but on other blogs

218 walahi  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:36:45pm

re: #215 satan sidekick

That's true. The only way I see McCain really pulling out of this Obama trap is public debates. It's the only way that the middle of the road, independents and undecided can really see Obama for what he is.

The media is dead for debate. You need actual footage of Obama and McCain going head to head without the prompters and whatnot. If conservatives keep trying to get their message out in the media, and even the internet it seems, we get played for fools.

219 Perplexed  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:40:06pm

Obama, an empty suit, appears to have quite a bit of excess baggage that keeps being dumped alongside of the political road to Washington DC.

Perhaps he should change his campaign slogan from "change we can live with" to "What, me worry?"

220 nacazo  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:47:08pm

I'm not an Obama-hater and I describe Odinga as both a socialist and an Islamists. It's good that Obama-haters (all of them?) also see reality.

BTW, I would describe myself as an Obama-reality-pointer.

221 Juliette  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:57:28pm

Charles,

Very interesting. Will link to it later.

In case no one has mentioned it, Obama and Odinga may not be cousins in the western sense, but clan members, called 'cousins' in English. The article about it is no longer available but is from Kenya's Daily Nation also. I wrote about it last month.

222 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:16:16pm

re: #221 Juliette
If the relationship is through BO's "mother" as is claimed by Odinga, then they are not blood relatives unless you go further up the tree. The person in question could only be BO Sr.'s first wife back in Kenya who is not a blood relative (directly) of BO.

As you noted, some people use the word "cousin" rather broadly. However, it is highly disturbing to me that Obama went to Kenya in 2006 to meet and campaign for this guy. That bespeaks of poor judgment to say the least.

re: #208 Miss Molly


As far as I know, BO Sr. had only 2 wives Stanley and his wife in Keyna (Obama Sr. grew up in Nyangoma-Kogelo. At 18, he married a young woman named Kezia in a tribal ceremony. They had four children, two of them after he returned to Kenya from the United States. He never divorced Kezia, who now lives in Bracknell, England.[8] - from wiki) Stanley re-married after her divorce from him. [Link: en.metapedia.org...] The wiki does not report a divorce from BO's stepfather. I do not know if it happened or not.

223 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:17:02pm

re: #222 Shr_Nfr

sorry, meant to put the BO Sr. wiki link. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

224 nacazo  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:28:45pm

re: #214 walahi

....

Obama is running a campaign based partly on his 'redeemer of America' theme and partly on the victimhood theme. What do I mean? I mean that if Obama loses, it won't be because his policy was deemed to be ineffective, nope, it will be because the 'right wing operatives' (as if Republican ninjas are out there - Just like they got Dan Rather!) did him in. It's not because people feel Obama is inexperienced, its because its his race.

....

Even if Obama had 40 years of experience, it would be the wrong kind of experience. Would you vote for him in 40 years? I believe his experience will be more of the same blaming others for his failings (my granma, Rev. Wright, etc), Generalities and no specifics (trust me to do the "change"), effects-of-early-drug-usage mind boggling gaffes.

Don't say experience is the problem, the problem is Cult of Personality, Socialisto-Communistic views, willing to blame America first (never before proud of America), Ignorance or misleading about his own Islamic heritage, Playing of the race card while encouraging mysoginistic, ageistic and anti-semitic supporters, will to say one thing today and the opposite tomorrow.

I'm not looking forward to that kind of "experience".

225 Juliette  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:44:31pm

re: #222 Shr_Nfr

If the relationship is through BO's "mother" as is claimed by Odinga, then they are not blood relatives unless you go further up the tree. The person in question could only be BO Sr.'s first wife back in Kenya who is not a blood relative (directly) of BO.

As you noted, some people use the word "cousin" rather broadly. However, it is highly disturbing to me that Obama went to Kenya in 2006 to meet and campaign for this guy. That bespeaks of poor judgment to say the least.

re: #208 Miss Molly


As far as I know, BO Sr. had only 2 wives Stanley and his wife in Keyna (Obama Sr. grew up in Nyangoma-Kogelo. At 18, he married a young woman named Kezia in a tribal ceremony. They had four children, two of them after he returned to Kenya from the United States. He never divorced Kezia, who now lives in Bracknell, England.[8] - from wiki) Stanley re-married after her divorce from him. [Link: en.metapedia.org...] The wiki does not report a divorce from BO's stepfather. I do not know if it happened or not.

My father, Philip Ochieng--an old friend of BO Sr.'s--says that Senior had another white wife named Ruth and that he (my father) had thought at first that Barack Jr. was Ruth's son.

There is no evidence that Obama campaigned for Odinga. Remember, this is a tribal society. Odinga was the head of his party and probably the most famous contemporary person in his tribe. It would have been odd for him not to have met with and played up the tribal connection with an American senator. (Remember, the 2007 Kenyan election and its aftermath hadn't happened yet.)

226 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:46:32pm

re: #221 Juliette

Charles,

Very interesting. Will link to it later.

In case no one has mentioned it, Obama and Odinga may not be cousins in the western sense, but clan members, called 'cousins' in English. The article about it is no longer available but is from Kenya's Daily Nation also. I wrote about it last month.

Interesting detail, thanks.

227 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:48:27pm

he used to like his cousin.
then again, he used to like a lot of people.
b.o. is truly a user of people for his own gain.
he will use america like that too.
he has no honor or integrity.

228 eaglewingz08  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 4:39:16pm

Pardon me if I took a wrong turn down a memory hole, but didn't Obama give an interview in February that he interrupted his campaign to give a telephone call to his 'cousin' and to support his campaign?
So the Obamanation will meet any tinpot dictator off the street but won't meet with his own cousin?
Here is article:

WASHINGTON - White House Democratic hopeful Barack Obama has called embattled Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga to urge peace talks without preconditions, his spokesman said today.

"Barack Obama spoke with Raila Odinga on Monday," spokesman Bill Burton told AFP. "He urged an end to violence and that Mr Odinga sit down, without preconditions, with President Kibaki to resolve this issue peacefully".
Obama is "trying now to speak with President (Mwai) Kibaki," Burton added.
Obama, who has overtaken presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic White House nomination, has made a series of contacts this month on the crisis in Kenya, according to Burton.
Odinga told the BBC radio that he had spoken twice with Obama, whose father was from Kenya and like Odinga was a member of the Luo tribe, and added that he and Obama are relatives.

"He called me twice yesterday to express his concern and to say he is also going to call president Kibaki so that Kibaki agrees to find a negotiated satisfactory solution to this problem," said Odinga.
"Barack Obama's father is actually my maternal uncle," said Odinga, who is battling to overturn disputed presidential elections which have plunged Kenya into turmoil.
However, Obama's campaign offered no confirmation of the claim that they are members of the same family.
It is "true that his father was a Luo I haven't heard they're related," Burton said.

The 46-year-old Illinois senator has spoken by phone with Secretary of state Condoleezza Rice, US Ambassador to Kenya Michael Rannenberger and Archbishop Desmond Tutu in between campaign stops, and also recorded a statement that aired on Voice of America radio, Burton said.
"Despite irregularities in the vote tabulation, now is not the time to throw that strong democracy away," Obama said in the radio message on January 2.

"Now is a time for President Kibaki, opposition leader Odinga, and all of Kenya's leaders to call for calm, to come together, and to start a political process to address peacefully the controversies that divide them. Now is the time for this terrible violence to end."
Despite Obama's efforts, Odinga, speaking from Nairobi today, reiterated his refusal to meet Kibaki without mediation.
"He knows that there is no basis for me meeting with him directly cause he has stolen an election. I won the elections, he lost it. He is still sitting in the (...) house illegally," he told the BBC.

"We have been cheated, the people of this country have been cheated. (...) We are in a constitutional crisis".
Amid allegations of vote-rigging, violence erupted 10 days ago leaving 600 people dead and 250,000 displaced and sending diplomats scurrying for a political solution to the crisis.
Attempts to bring Kibaki and Odinga together so far have failed, although the president had extended an invitation to his rival for face-to-face talks on Friday.
Odinga rejected the offer, saying he would only meet Kibaki with Africa Union chief John Kufuor's mediation.


Brings to mind the song, Will you still phone me tomorrow?

229 Juliette  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 5:45:01pm

re: #228 eaglewingz08

Pardon me if I took a wrong turn down a memory hole, but didn't Obama give an interview in February that he interrupted his campaign to give a telephone call to his 'cousin' and to support his campaign?

Odinga's campaign for president was over on election day in December 2007. In a deal to stop the violence which followed the election (he lost and claimed it was stolen), Odinga was made Prime Minister. There hadn't been a PM since Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya's first post-colonial president/PM.

Obama was just calling to give moral :::cough::: support.

230 Daryl Herbert  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:26:25pm

I hope everyone remembers it was the Clinton campaign that first released the photos of Obama dressing up in Islamic Somali garb to meet with his cousin Odinga.

231 Macker  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:05:58pm

Guess he forgot the memo....

232 LEGION  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:43:50pm

If just a smattering of this info had come out in the primaries- this clown would never have won anything. Thanks for hiding the truth MSM. Be careful of what you wish for.

233 Ledger1  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 2:21:47am

re: #9 Bob in Breckenridge

That's what lift kits were invented for.”

Here is something close to that from one of our own posters uncle_monkey: Picture of bus racing through flames with Destination sign on bus, “DC or Bust”

Title:

Barrack is SPEED-O

Time is critical

THE OBAMA EXPRESS STOPS FOR NO ONE

WHO WILL BE NEXT?

See: Barrack is SPEED-O

234 jabbathetutt  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:07:14am

In the rush to point out exactly what kind of person cousin Odinga is, something else is overlooked. What the hell is a US Senator doing in campaigning for a Presidential candidate of another country? Couldn't this cause problems for US foreign policy in that country? Don't US Senators have enough to do without intervening in the internal politics of another country?

In fact, in the article about this, it mentioned how the Obamessiah's criticism of the Kenyan government caused growing tensions and that the President of Kenya had to push back against Obama's campaigning.

For a man running on Judgment, what kind of judgment is it to campaign as a high-ranking US government official in a foreign country? And where is the Obamessiah's mystical ability to bring people together by talking?


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