Another moonbat put down coming up.

Hopefully Ayaan can help set the records straight...and show Sally the truth about Islamists and Hizbollah...

I wonder if Ayaan was aware that the person interviewing her, Sally Quinn, is managing a web site that is doing more than any other mainstream media source to whitewash and legitimize radical Islamists—including the spiritual leader of Hizballah?

Probably not. However, to get a message to the public, sometimes you have to deal with undesirable elements.

Ali engaging Sally Quinn is the best thing that could happen.

Quinn is the quintessential media elitist. She needs to know there are people who suffer for her false propaganda.

Aayan Hirsi Ali is a brave woman. I've known many people that wanted to convert away from islam but were afraid of 'honor killings' and the like. I applaud her for standing up and deservedly criticizing islam.

Maybe one person will read Infidel and learn precisely what reality is.

re: #5 kynna

Ali engaging Sally Quinn is the best thing that could happen.

Quinn is the quintessential media elitist. She needs to know there are people who suffer for her false propaganda.

I agree, but the probability that she will learn that lesson is approximately zero. Anyone who would promote the spiritual leader of Hizballah as a "moderate Muslim" is completely beyond hope.

re: #5 kynna

Ali engaging Sally Quinn is the best thing that could happen.

Quinn is the quintessential media elitist. She needs to know there are people who suffer for her false propaganda.

The problem with elitists is that they don't believe anybody suffers negatively from their falsehoods. They think they live in a world where only their voice matters and they must tell the world everything regardless of how true it is.

I wonder if Ayaan was aware that the person interviewing her, Sally Quinn, is managing a web site that is doing more than any other mainstream media source to whitewash and legitimize radical Islamists—including the spiritual leader of Hizballah?

My guess is she wasn't, but I'd like to know.

Ayan Hirsi Ali is never afraid to walk into the lion's den. She is an example to us all.

You people keep kicking over my glass half-full thinking.

re: #9 Charles,

Maybe what Quinn meant was Hizballah is as "moderate" as they get. That is the only way that describing Hizballah as "moderate" makes any sense.

She surely can't believe Hizballah is moderate. They are, after all, terrorists who have killed Americans. If she believes that is "moderate" then she is, clinically speaking, nuts.

re: #13 debutaunt

You people keep kicking over my glass half-full thinking.

Nah, we're splashing it in your face.

/cold water of reality

re: #14 Iron Fist

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Maybe what Quinn meant was Hizballah is as "moderate" as they get. That is the only way that describing Hizballah as "moderate" makes any sense.

She surely can't believe Hizballah is moderate. They are, after all, terrorists who have killed Americans. If she believes that is "moderate" then she is, clinically speaking, nuts.

Who says she isn't nuts?

Is Sally Quinn ex-SeeBS? The name sounds familiar.

OT: MSM Outrage of the day.

BBC implies that the US will start arresting bloggers as political prisoners because of upcoming Presidential elections.

In a story on bloggers being arrested (In places like Iran, China and Egypt), they add a caption under a picture:

Elections in China, Pakistan and the US could prompt more arrests

Unreal.

"Infidel" has been selling well from what I've seen in the bookstore, and every time Hirsi Ali is interviewed there is increased interest. A lot of women readers, in particular, hear about the book through word of mouth.

She's just great. I have her autograph :-D

re: #20 infidelia

Because she makes sense and she speaks beautifully

re: #9 Charles

Check WaPo journalist Robin Wright who has been doing the same thing since 1979

re: #17 Honorary Yooper,

Good point. There is kind of a presumption of sanity that we extend to everyone until proven differently. In her case, it may be too kind.

re: #19 karmic_inquisitor

OT: MSM Outrage of the day.

BBC implies that the US will start arresting bloggers as political prisoners because of upcoming Presidential elections.

In a story on bloggers being arrested (In places like Iran, China and Egypt), they add a caption under a picture:

Unreal.

Is this the old Bushitler is Going To Get You bs again or have they come up with something more original? It would not surprise me to see such pressure increase dramatically following an Obama win.

re: #19 karmic_inquisitor

Elections in... the US could prompt more arrests

The Beeb may inadvertently be right. Elections in the US put the Obamessiah in the White House and enhance looney left control of Congress; they proceed to enact "media reform". Conservative bloggers are then arrested...

(No, I don't think this is likely to happen in the next four years, but the next fourteen... not so sure any more)

re: #15 Ward Cleaver

Nah, we're splashing it in your face.

/cold water of reality

It's so difficult to get people to read Infidel. They just don't want to know.

re: #24 Iron Fist

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Good point. There is kind of a presumption of sanity that we extend to everyone until proven differently. In her case, it may be too kind dangerous.

We have too many shills for the radical wings of the RoP as it is.

re: #9 Charles

I agree, but the probability that she will learn that lesson is approximately zero. Anyone who would promote the spiritual leader of Hizballah as a "moderate Muslim" is completely beyond hope.

I agree. But I still think it's a start. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is everything the glam-media loves. A beautiful, intelligent ethnic woman with a powerful back story.

She has a better chance of scoring a point than anyone else. Maybe I'm overly optimistic (and a bit of an Ali Hirsi Ali fangirl, I admit), but every little chip at the fortress counts IMO.

Got to head out to work at the bookstore and point people in the direction of "Nuclear Jihadist" and other books about A.Q. Khan. That's if any of them have been paying attention and are actually interested.

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Two words: fairness doctrine.

re: #29 kynna

I agree. But I still think it's a start. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is everything the glam-media loves. A beautiful, intelligent ethnic woman with a powerful back story.

She has a better chance of scoring a point than anyone else. Maybe I'm overly optimistic (and a bit of an Ali Hirsi Ali fangirl, I admit), but every little chip at the fortress counts IMO.

She has a delightful sense of humor.

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

Is Sally Quinn ex-SeeBS? The name sounds familiar.

Washingtong Post columnist now married to Ben Bradlee.

re: #26 Occasional Reader,

It is what they would like to do. Whether or not they can do it is another question. Not, I think, while the Second Amendment stands. The Heller decision may be the most important free speech decision the Court has ever handed down.

re: #27 debutaunt

It's so difficult to get people to read Infidel. They just don't want to know.

Sadly, a lot of people "just aren't interested in politics".

re: #19 karmic_inquisitor

OT: MSM Outrage of the day.

BBC implies that the US will start arresting bloggers as political prisoners because of upcoming Presidential elections.

In a story on bloggers being arrested (In places like Iran, China and Egypt), they add a caption under a picture:

Unreal.

They mean the 2012 elections, under pres. Obama, and the Fairness and Don't Hurt Feelings Doctrines.

re: #19 karmic_inquisitor

More unreality -

That "report" cited has 3 incidents of the USA arresting people for "blogging."

1. Daniel Aljughaifi - for "exposing corruption"

He was an Al Qaeda member who was convicted of training in an Al Qaeda camp.

2. Jack McClellan - for "violating cultural norms". Try pedophilia.

3. Josh Wolf- for "violating cultural norms". Try obstruction of justice.

Does the BBC just reprint any moonbat press release?

Charles & lizards--

I was going to link the WaPo page where you can see more of this interview, but after viewing it, I was so disgusted with Quinn's agenda instead of a REAL substantive interview with one of the most courageous people on the planet... I didn't.

I really need to stop even visiting that site, except that I need to see the Federal pages...

WaPo is just a dhimmi tool.

re: #37 karmic_inquisitor

More unreality -

That "report" cited has 3 incidents of the USA arresting people for "blogging."

1. Daniel Aljughaifi - for "exposing corruption"

He was an Al Qaeda member who was convicted of training in an Al Qaeda camp.

2. Jack McClellan - for "violating cultural norms". Try pedophilia.

3. Josh Wolf- for "violating cultural norms". Try obstruction of justice.

Does the BBC just reprint any moonbat press release?

Afraid so.
The BBC is pretty much in decline, the inaccuracies published there are un-be-lievable, even in such trivial subjects like sport.
As for politics - forget it. Its leftie NuLab all the way down.

re: #19 karmic_inquisitor

OT: MSM Outrage of the day.

BBC implies that the US will start arresting bloggers as political prisoners because of upcoming Presidential elections.

In a story on bloggers being arrested (In places like Iran, China and Egypt), they add a caption under a picture:

Unreal.

Where did they come up with this cow flop?

Actually, this interview was done for the "On Faith" series at the Washington Post and appeared first on their web site.

I watched some of these yesterday. I believe Ms Ali blundered badly in her remarks about satan.

re: #20 infidelia

"Infidel" has been selling well from what I've seen in the bookstore, and every time Hirsi Ali is interviewed there is increased interest. A lot of women readers, in particular, hear about the book through word of mouth.

I need to read "Infidel." I just finished "Moment of Truth in Iraq" and started "The Looming Tower." "Infidel" is definitely next.

re: #43 ModerateWolverine

I need to read "Infidel." I just finished "Moment of Truth in Iraq" and started "The Looming Tower." "Infidel" is definitely next.

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I'm halfway through reading her "Infidel" book, where you learn Kenya was a safehaven from much of the horrible violence Ayaan Hirsi Ali and her family experienced in Somalia.

Just finished reading "infidel";a cracking good autobiography of triumph in the face of murderous adversity(she's probablyno.1 on the islamanazi hit list).
I wish her a long and fruitful life ;and if she becomes a USA citizen then the next president should make her ambassador to KSA.

I posted this link in the open thread, but it is very appropriate here.

About a research scientist who- skeptical about the whitewash of the true nature of Islam -decided to subject facts to scientific method.

[Link: [Link: www.townhall.com...]...]

He, surprise, comes to the conclusion that Islam is not a ROP.

OT OT OT

Charles, sorry to go OT but this might be breaking news:

Obama will NOT dramatically CHANGE US policy towards Iraq, if elected!

".....The Middle East Media Research Institute picks up a report from London-based Al-Hayat that reinforces the point:

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign managers had reassured Baghdad that if Obama is elected he will not dramatically change Washington's policy towards Iraq and will take into account the opinions of the commanders in the field.

Zebari noted that this reassurance is important, in light of the widespread impression that Obama is expected to completely overturn current policy....."

from wsj.online by James Taranto
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

re: #46 Opinionated

Fixed link

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

re: #47 alegrias

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign managers had reassured Baghdad

Just like they reassured Canada that he didn't really mean all that anti-trade stuff. The Obama promises everything to everyone.

re: #47 alegrias

OT OT OT

Charles, sorry to go OT but this might be breaking news:

Obama will NOT dramatically CHANGE US policy towards Iraq, if elected!

".....The Middle East Media Research Institute picks up a report from London-based Al-Hayat that reinforces the point:

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign managers had reassured Baghdad that if Obama is elected he will not dramatically change Washington's policy towards Iraq and will take into account the opinions of the commanders in the field.

Zebari noted that this reassurance is important, in light of the widespread impression that Obama is expected to completely overturn current policy....."

from wsj.online by James Taranto
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

* * *
Here's the MEMRI link from 6/13/08 titled:

Iraqi FM: Obama Reassures Baghdad He Won't Make Dramatic Changes In U.S. Policy In Iraq

[Link: www.thememriblog.org...]

The videos don't load for me at work here. What's up?

This is what Sally Quinn wrote when she found out her son believed in God:

[Link: newsweek.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #48 Opinionated

Fixed link

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

Thanks! That was a great article!

re: #51 North95

Playing the vids requires Shockwave flash as well as javascript, and having them enabled may be contrary to your local IT policies. With the NoScript add-on for Firefox, it is practical to grant such permissions on a site-by site basis, instead of globally (which is dangerous). NoScript makes it easy to do this, either temporarily or more permanently.

re: #9 Charles

I agree, but the probability that she will learn that lesson is approximately zero. Anyone who would promote the spiritual leader of Hizballah as a "moderate Muslim" is completely beyond hope.

Its not about trying to convince the unconvinceable.

Hirsi Ali is thoughtful, she's tough, and she takes no BS.

Its not Quinn Ali needs to convince, its Quinn's audience.

re: #47 alegrias

OT OT OT

Charles, sorry to go OT but this might be breaking news:

Obama will NOT dramatically CHANGE US policy towards Iraq, if elected!

The problem is that Obama is two faced.
He's now been caught saying different things about the same topic to different audiences more than once.
For example, he publically said he was going to try to renegotiate NAFTA, but privately said he wouldn't to the Canadian gov't.
Then there was the recent flop about Jerusalem.

Whether or not Obama will "dramatically" change policy is somewhat secondary. The question is he going to push for an American victory there (defined as a functional self-sufficient Iraqi gov't) or not.

Zebari noted that this reassurance is important, in light of the widespread impression that Obama is expected to completely overturn current policy....."

That "impression" was created by Obama himself, who said he wanted to immediately draw down US troops, and stuck on that throughout his entire early campaign.

This hasn't changed. Its still listed on his official website as his policy

Bringing Our Troops Home
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda.

Atheist Ackbar!

Thanks abolitionist.

re: #27 debutaunt

It's so difficult to get people to read Infidel. They just don't want to know.

I gave the book to my mother. She is reading it and just yesterday I overheard her telling my sister about it.

One person at a time!

Ignoring reality, Quinn will put the subject of genital mutilation under: "Male Supremacy" and leave it at that. Barbaric practices of tribalism, in Quinn's book, are exactly the same as the accomplishments of Western civilization. Well, not exactly - the West is worse.

She will put the subject of Islamist goals under "worthy" because anything and everything that devalues American values is better than the American values she and all the other Moonbats hate.

IMO, Ayan Hirsi's atheism puts her at risk of being used by Moonbats like Quinn. I hope this extraordinary discovers a better faith.

re: #52 Psaturn

This is not a comment on the substance of her article, but on the photo. There were so many wrinkles brushed out of Quinn's face that the air-brusher was at risk for carpal tunnel syndrome!

Hirisi is such an inspiration. May se be blessed with peace and kept safe by what ever God you believe in.

re: #37 karmic_inquisitor

More unreality -

That "report" cited has 3 incidents of the USA arresting people for "blogging."

1. Daniel Aljughaifi - for "exposing corruption"

He was an Al Qaeda member who was convicted of training in an Al Qaeda camp.

2. Jack McClellan - for "violating cultural norms". Try pedophilia.

3. Josh Wolf- for "violating cultural norms". Try obstruction of justice.

Does the BBC just reprint any moonbat press release?

You're scaring me. Seriously. I knew they were all a bunch of leftards but to make a pedophile, a terrorist and a journalist who actually impeded the public's "right to know" into political prisoners is beyond the pale.

Truly reprehensible. Pity the poor Brits who pay for this and are exposed to it whether they like it or not.

I don't know if Charles will kill me for this but I think it's appropriate if you value your freedom. Please consider donating to Ms. Hirsi Ali's security:

[Link: www.samharris.org...]

I only contribute $10 every month but I consider it the best $10 spent on my own freedom.

re: #27 debutaunt

It's so difficult to get people to read Infidel. They just don't want to know.

i have a lib friend who has the book and yet finds so many reasons not to have read it yet. i think she is stalling because she will have to confront her own absurd views of islam. she will be unable to refute hirs ali who has lived the horror of islam.

I had classes at the University of Toronto this weekend. We had a show and tell session to get to know each other.

I passed around 'Infidel' and told Ayaan's story. Also included in my presentation were Steyn's 'America Alone' and a speech on our human rights commisions and my NRA membership card and American Rifleman magazine with a tribute to Charlton Heston. I'm pretty sure some people hate me now.

re: #67 Canadian Infidel

I had classes at the University of Toronto this weekend. We had a show and tell session to get to know each other.

I passed around 'Infidel' and told Ayaan's story. Also included in my presentation were Steyn's 'America Alone' and a speech on our human rights commisions and my NRA membership card and American Rifleman magazine with a tribute to Charlton Heston. I'm pretty sure some people hate me now.

Probably, your liberal professors will start giving you bad grades.

Speaking of tools...Sally Quinn's level of questioning, not to mention her narcissism (how much did she pay the camera person to stay on HER throughout the fourth clip?!), demonstrate her superficiality and commitment to following the party line.

A very interesting 3-part clip is up at YouTube, with Ayaan Hirsi Ali discussing Islam with Tariq Ramadan. Many long videos are available that feature her. Her courage and astute assessment of both Islam and the distortion by the West of Islam's lethality are very good.
Here's the clip for part I:

Enjoy.