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UMass Strips Mugabe of Honorary Degree

Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:48:39 am PDT

The University of Massachusetts has had a change of heart about murderous dictator Robert Mugabe: UMass trustees strip Mugabe of honorary degree after lobbying by students, Rep. Kevin Murphy.

LOWELL — Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, widely condemned for abuses in a country reeling from a growing humanitarian crisis, has been stripped of the honorary degree he received from UMass Amherst in 1986.

The UMass board of trustees, acting on the recommendation of UMass President Jack Wilson and after lobbying from UMass students and Lowell state Rep. Kevin Murphy, yesterday voted unanimously to take that “extraordinary” step in light of mounting international criticism of Mugabe’s human-rights record and allegations that his regime has been responsible for massive voter intimidation, fraud and violence associated with presidential elections in his country.

“We don’t do this lightly,” Wilson said prior to the vote. “We’ve never done this before. We don’t view honorary degrees as something that can be given and then taken back. It would be only in the most egregious of cases that one would consider doing that.”

This is how you know when dictators have crossed the final line—when not even academics will support them.

But it’s instructive to look back at the role of another thug-hugger in this story, the man who was instrumental in bringing Mugabe to power: Jimmy Carter.

In April of 1979, the first fully democratic election in Zimbabwe history’s occurred. Of the eligible black voters, 64% participated, braving the threat of terrorist attacks by Mr. Mugabe’s Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front party, which managed to kill 10 people. Prior to the election, Mr. Mugabe had issued a death list with 50 individuals he named as “traitors, fellow-travelers, and puppets of the Ian Smith regime, opportunistic running-dogs and other capitalist vultures.” Nevertheless, Bishop Abel Muzorewa of the United Methodist Church emerged victorious and became prime minister of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia, as the new country was called.

Yet the Carter administration, led by the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Andrew Young, would have none of it. Mr. Young referred to Mr. Muzorewa, one of the very few democratically elected leaders on the African continent, as the head of a “neo-fascist” government. Mr. Carter refused to meet Mr. Muzorewa when the newly elected leader visited Washington to seek support from our country, nor did he lift sanctions that America had placed on Rhodesia as punishment for the colony’s unilateral declaration of independence from the British Empire in 1965.

Messrs. Carter and Young would only countenance a settlement in which Mr. Mugabe, a Marxist who had repeatedly made clear his intention to turn Zimbabwe into a one-party state, played a leading role. Mr. Young, displaying the willful naiveté that came to characterize Mr. Carter’s mindset, told the London Times that Mr. Mugabe was a “very gentle man” whom he “can’t imagine ... ever pulling the trigger on a gun to kill anyone.”

(Hat tip: Steve.)

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1 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:49:35am

At last, the "cluestick" is working!

2 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:49:40am

It should go to Obama's cousin.

3 me  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:49:46am

he deserves a life sentence, nevermind haiving an honorary degree stripped.

4 Dustyvet  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:49:54am

And doing this will solve what?

5 see bs  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:49:55am

Another fine mess..... brought to you by Jimmah Carter

6 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:50:09am
7 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:50:55am

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

From Ph.D to Pull His Degree?

good one

8 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:51:06am

I wonder how many honorary degrees Jimmy Carter has?

9 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:51:13am

Trustee still needed a cluebat for something that's a no-brainer.

10 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:51:47am

re: #8 Ringo the Gringo

I wonder how many honorary degrees Jimmy Carter has?

Six degrees of separation... although I'd certainly prefer more.

11 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:52:44am

Has Carter ever been right about anything? Sheer statistics alone indicate he must have at some point (the "stopped clock" principle) yet the evidence keeps piling up. In fact, it'd be hard for someone to intentionally be as incompetent as Carter has been as a byproduct.

12 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:53:19am

Jimmy was just trying to make sure he had another convenient dictator to deal with (since they "speak for all the people" and so make for handy, call-one-number foreign policy).

13 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:53:23am

re: #4 Dustyvet

And doing this will solve what?

Nothing really, but the academics involved will feel a little better, as they pat themselves on the back for 'doing something'. They might even get motivated enough to lobby the UN to send an angry letter now.

14 Repj  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:53:29am

Oh.... my.... Gawd.

15 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:54:14am

OT:

How do the obamatrons find out about things like this before we do? BTW The forum section on that site seems to be overrun by Paulbots.

16 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:54:18am

re: #13 CyanSnowHawk

Nothing really, but the academics involved will feel a little better, as they pat themselves on the back for 'doing something'. They might even get motivated enough to lobby the UN to send an angry strongly-worded letter now.

Baby steps!

17 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:54:27am

"thug-hugger"

Now that's a usage I'm going to have to use in the future. It's pitch perfect.

And for the record, Mugabe is running headlong towards establishing a dictatorship - he's on the record saying he wouldn't abide by the elections on June 27 and continues to threaten the opposition.

And what does the US and UK say with all this? They want Mugabe to accept international elections monitors. Like that will keep Mugabe from rigging the elections to say nothing of the widespread intimidation, fraud, and violence perpetrated against the opposition to keep them from every gaining power.

18 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:54:28am

Wow how brilliant of them.
The murdering thug should never have gotten it in the first place!

19 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:54:57am
Mr. Young, displaying the willful naiveté that came to characterize Mr. Carter’s mindset, told the London Times that Mr. Mugabe was a “very gentle man” whom he “can’t imagine ... ever pulling the trigger on a gun to kill anyone.

That's because Mugabe prefers burning them alive after chopping off their feet.

And this foreign policy of appeasing dictators is what Obama will bring back.

20 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:03am

re: #2 Lively

It should go to Obama's cousin.

Just what I was thinking!

21 Yashmak  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:20am
Has Carter ever been right about anything?

- Diamond Bullet

You beat me to it. I was just thinking the same thing! I recall as a small child thinking how nice a man he seemed when he was shown on TV. It's only over the last 4 or 5 years I've come to know how well and truly he screwed up just about every foreign policy issue he put his hands to.

And we're poised to elect another Democrat to high office who displayes remarkable similarities. It's true that those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

22 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:33am

re: #19 Kosh's Shadow

That's because Mugabe prefers burning them alive after chopping off their feet.

And this foreign policy of appeasing dictators is what Obama will bring back.

Human rights for everyone!

23 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:34am

Mugabe Bad.
Arafat Good.

Because white Englishman belong in Africa more than Jews in Israel.

24 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:48am

"Are those flying pigs, Dad?"

25 swampy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:51am

Why am I not surprised that it took 22 years for the liberal academicians to figure out Mugabe was a thug? Most of us had it figured out back in the 80's.

26 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:55:58am
27 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:56:28am

re: #8 Ringo the Gringo

I wonder how many honorary degrees Jimmy Carter has?

More than Arafat had boyfriends?

28 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:56:34am

BTW, Tiger's 1 up, teeing off from 14.

29 looking closely  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:57:04am

"Honorary" degrees dilute the work of those that earn REAL degrees.

Its pretty sleazy way for Universities to attract speakers.

30 arf  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:57:31am

Wow, ZooMass of all places........

Good for them, I guess. They got a clue.

31 MacGregor  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:57:41am
Mugabe, a Marxist who had repeatedly made clear his intention to turn Zimbabwe into a one-party state

Socialism In Action!

32 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:58:25am
33 Lively  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:58:31am

re: #28 Bob in Breckenridge

BTW, Tiger's 1 up, teeing off from 14.

When you say up, do you mean below in number of strokes?

34 shug  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:58:33am

U Mass is out. So where is a homicidal thug to go in America to get a warm welcome?

-Columbia!

35 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:58:42am

They better hide their wives.

36 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:59:08am

re: #16 OldLineTexan

You're right, angry was really too much to hope for.

37 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:59:10am

re: #29 looking closely

"Honorary" degrees dilute the work of those that earn REAL degrees.

Its pretty sleazy way for Universities to attract speakers.

It's not just to attract speakers, but to solicit donations and fundraising for the various university funds. Show that you're getting important people on campus, and you get the alumni to open their wallets.

Follow the money is always a good idea to see how things operate.

38 shug  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:59:33am

Tiger trying his best to give it away.

Poor Rocco butting heads with history. And losing.

Just can't make a putt to save his life. His Collar is very tight

39 Ceemack  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:59:46am
Mr. Mugabe was a “very gentle man” whom he “can’t imagine ... ever pulling the trigger on a gun to kill anyone.”

Andrew Young wasn't aware that Mugabe was the head of a terrorist organization?

That's not naivete--that's deliberate distortion.

One might even go so far as to call it a "lie".

Which kind of makes you wonder about Carter and his worldview. Is he really that naive? Is he just a well-meaning guy who's easily fooled? I used to think so, but now I'm not so sure.

40 calvin coolidge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:59:47am

UMass can't take it back. Mugabe already sold it on Ebay.

41 shug  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:59:55am

re: #33 Lively


si

42 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:00:03pm

re: #11 Diamond Bullet

Has Carter ever been right about anything? Sheer statistics alone indicate he must have at some point (the "stopped clock" principle) yet the evidence keeps piling up. In fact, it'd be hard for someone to intentionally be as incompetent as Carter has been as a byproduct.

Here's a good example of the stopped clock principle at work.

43 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:00:07pm

re: #38 shug

Tiger trying his best to give it away.

Poor Rocco butting heads with history. And losing.

Just can't make a putt to save his life. His Collar is very tight

Gawd, he must feel a bit like Hillary...

44 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:00:12pm

re: #33 Lively

When you say up, do you mean below in number of strokes?

Yeah, sorry. He's 4 under, Rocco is 3 under.

45 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:00:54pm
46 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:01:24pm

What kind of gun do you use to hunt flying pigs?

47 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:01:25pm
Andrew Young, would have none of it. Mr. Young referred to Mr. Muzorewa, one of the very few democratically elected leaders on the African continent, as the head of a “neo-fascist” government

Muzorewa was white?

48 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:01:26pm

re: #44 Bob in Breckenridge

Yeah, sorry. He's 4 under, Rocco is 3 under.

PIMF- Tiger is 1 over par, Rocco is 2 over par.

49 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:01:37pm

Now if we could just strip those five SCOTUS judges of their position as judges...

50 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:01:53pm

re: #46 Hard Right

What kind of gun do you use to hunt flying pigs?

You fiend...they're endangered!

51 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:02:04pm

re: #49 NomadOfNorad

Now if we could just strip those five SCOTUS judges of their position as judges...

They've clearly been stripped of their brains and souls.

52 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:02:32pm

re: #50 OldLineTexan

You fiend...they're endangered!

Especially after I get through with 'em. Muwahahahahaha

53 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:02:50pm

re: #51 Hard Right

They've clearly been stripped of their brains and souls.

Is that grounds for removal? :D

54 Gjergj Skënderbeu  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:02:57pm
opportunistic running-dogs and other capitalist vultures

So that's why Jimmy like him so much.

55 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:03:07pm

re: #53 NomadOfNorad

Is that grounds for removal? :D

No, a promotion!

56 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:03:46pm

re: #53 NomadOfNorad

Is that grounds for removal? :D

Yes....by rocket.

57 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:04:01pm

I will say this, but among the US media outlets, MSNBC has been doing a better job covering the Mugabe power grab than any of the others.

58 Beobachter  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:04:11pm

re: #21 Yashmak

- Diamond Bullet

You beat me to it. I was just thinking the same thing! I recall as a small child thinking how nice a man he seemed when he was shown on TV. It's only over the last 4 or 5 years I've come to know how well and truly he screwed up just about every foreign policy issue he put his hands to.

And we're poised to elect another Democrat to high office who displayes remarkable similarities. It's true that those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Unfortunately, it won't be just those, but all of us too, who are doomed to repeat it.

59 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:04:22pm

Tiger parred 14, and Rocco birdied it! They're tied heading to 15, four to go!

60 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:05:04pm

re: #59 Bob in Breckenridge

Tiger parred 14, and Rocco birdied it! They're tied heading to 15, four to go!

I'd watch golf if more fist fights broke out between the players.

61 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:06:01pm

re: #59 Bob in Breckenridge

Tiger parred 14, and Rocco birdied it! They're tied heading to 15, four to go!

Tiger's 3 shot lead is gone. His birdie putt on 14 lipped out.

62 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:06:41pm

re: #61 Bob in Breckenridge

I blame it on that car alarm going off

63 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:06:43pm

re: #60 Hard Right

I'd watch golf if more fist fights broke out between the players.

Scantily-clad cheerleaders would help, too.

64 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:00pm

re: #39 Ceemack

Andrew Young wasn't aware that Mugabe was the head of a terrorist organization?

That's not naivete--that's deliberate distortion.

One might even go so far as to call it a "lie".

Which kind of makes you wonder about Carter and his worldview. Is he really that naive? Is he just a well-meaning guy who's easily fooled? I used to think so, but now I'm not so sure.

The terrorist organization was Marxist and vehemently anti-American. So in a lefty's view, it was good at heart. Oh, maybe they got carried away with killing folks from time to time. But they meant well.
Yup. Andrew Young was a moonbat.

Carter? Doesn't matter to him what you call him, as long as you understand that he is holier and purer than anyone.

65 uptight  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:03pm

What is the world coming too when Marxist thugs can't be assured of the unqualified support of academia?

Dammit - next thing you know Berkeley will revoke Pol Pot's doctorate.

66 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:05pm

re: #60 Hard Right

I'd watch golf if more fist fights broke out between the players.

/That's called hockey.

67 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:07pm

re: #60 Hard Right

I'd watch golf if more fist fights broke out between the players.

I can see a club shaft with a bend in it shaped like a guy's head, like in cartoons.

68 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:15pm

re: #62 schultzw

I blame it on that car alarm going off

LOL!

69 KingKenrod  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:39pm

From the article

Wilson said things have only grown worse in Zimbabwe in the past year. He noted that honorary degrees are awarded "to individuals we want to stand before our students as examples of what students can be."

So, what example did Mugabe present to the students of UMass in 1986 when he got the degree? At the time he just finishing the Gukurahundi campaign.

I guess the example was it's OK to do anything as long as you are paying lip service to opposing Western colonialism.

70 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:57pm

re: #65 uptight

What is the world coming too when Marxist thugs can't be assured of the unqualified support of academia?

Dammit - next thing you know Berkeley will revoke Pol Pot's doctorate.

What, and take his name off the Political Science building?

71 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:07:57pm

re: #63 Occasional Reader

Scantily-clad cheerleaders would help, too.

It would help tremendously.
Sounds like we need to start our own golf league.
AJGA
Average Joe Golf Association

72 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:08:16pm

re: #60 Hard Right

I'd watch golf if more fist fights broke out between the players.

Hahaha ! :)

73 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:08:24pm

re: #71 Hard Right

Sounds like golf's version of the XFL

74 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:14pm

Tiger's limping, and he's in the deep rough. Rocco's in the fairway.

75 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:21pm

Tiger's in the gallery!

/not good

76 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:31pm

re: #47 Ben Hur

Muzorewa was white?

No.

77 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:47pm

re: #66 Bob in Breckenridge

/That's called hockey.

No, no. They're nothing alike and one is played on ice.

sarc/

78 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:49pm

re: #73 schultzw

Sounds like golf's version of the XFL

/He Hurt Me

79 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:49pm

re: #71 Hard Right

It would help tremendously.
Sounds like we need to start our own golf league.
AJGA
Average Joe Golf Association

Beer per hole required, hitting the green on 18 would be good enough......

80 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:09:56pm

re: #55 OldLineTexan

No, a promotion!

How do you promote someone OUT of the SCOTUS? The SCOTUS is as high as the courts can GO!

81 Dianna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:10:12pm

re: #72 mama winger

I tried valiantly to learn to golf. It was self-defense, because I was still living at home (I was about 14) and my dad watched golf on TV.

Whoever remarked that gold was a good walk spoiled had it right.

82 looking closely  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:10:15pm

re: #37 lawhawk

It's not just to attract speakers, but to solicit donations and fundraising for the various university funds. Show that you're getting important people on campus, and you get the alumni to open their wallets.

Follow the money is always a good idea to see how things operate.


All that too.

But the speakers could still be invited without giving them meaningless degrees.

MIT (for example) has not awarded an "honorary" degree in the 140 year history of that institution.

83 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:10:26pm

re: #75 Killian Bundy

He's got some tricks up his sleeve

84 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:10:40pm

I used to think only old people watched golf. Now I watch golf.

oh

85 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:10:43pm

re: #80 NomadOfNorad

How do you promote someone OUT of the SCOTUS? The SCOTUS is as high as the courts can GO!

I would say lawmaker but hey, they already fill that role as well!

86 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:10:56pm

re: #79 jcm

Beer per hole required, hitting the green on 18 would be good enough......

Shit, FINDING the green would be good enough.

/After many beers.

87 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:11:20pm

re: #73 schultzw

Sounds like golf's version of the XFL

Another idea, the players have to chug a beer on each hole.

88 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:11:32pm

re: #81 Dianna

I can't play it - but after listening to everyone around me talk about it, I got a little more interested.

89 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:12:01pm

re: #79 jcm

Beer per hole required, hitting the green on 18 would be good enough......

Wow, I posted before I saw this. Great minds...

90 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:12:03pm
91 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:12:09pm

re: #3 me

he deserves a life sentence, nevermind haiving an honorary degree stripped.

Given that he's past 80 that isn't going to be a very long time.

Reinstate the Nuremberg Tribunal for dictators in general and their minions.

92 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:12:52pm

re: #90 taxfreekiller

On Golf.

Both Democrats and Republicans play golf.

so do soldiers :)

93 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:13:08pm

re: #86 Bob in Breckenridge

what about taking a shot of tequila for each stroke over par at each hole?

94 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:13:16pm

re: #48 Bob in Breckenridge

PIMF- Tiger is 1 over par, Rocco is 2 over par.

As of the finish on hole 14
Mediate 56
Woods 56

95 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:13:38pm

re: #86 Bob in Breckenridge

Shit, FINDING the green would be good enough.

/After many beers.

Seeing eye-caddy?
I nearly put myself in the hospital the night I drank 16 beers.

96 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:13:50pm

Rocco's got about 12 feet for birdie, Tiger's in the sand, 170 yds away, He's not in the rough. Sorry.

97 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:11pm

re: #74 Bob in Breckenridge

Tiger's limping, and he's in the deep rough. Rocco's in the fairway.

Sounds like the knee surgery didn't go so well.

98 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:39pm

re: #70 Ward Cleaver

What, and take his name off the Political Science building?

S'OK. We'll re-use the sign for an outdoor toilet.

99 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:40pm

WOW - look at that shot!

100 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:41pm

Golf was invented by Muslims.

101 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:45pm

re: #46 Hard Right

What kind of gun do you use to hunt flying pigs?

Air rifle.

102 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:45pm

Amazing shot out of the sand for Woods!

103 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:14:51pm

re: #93 schultzw

what about taking a shot of tequila for each stroke over par at each hole?

It just occured to me, John Daly would be the KING of the AJGA.

104 Dianna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:15:06pm

re: #88 mama winger

Dick Francis wrote one book in which the main character is a painter, who mostly paints golf on the grounds that golf is about life. It was an interesting take on golf, but it hasn't helped me get interested.

105 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:15:07pm

re: #89 Hard Right

Wow, I posted before I saw this. Great minds...

We might have a drinking problem....
Nah! Hand me another one...
;-P

106 looking closely  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:15:08pm

re: #93 schultzw

what about taking a shot of tequila for each stroke over par at each hole?

I'd die of ethanol poisoning by the third hole.

107 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:15:30pm

re: #69 KingKenrod

From the article


So, what example did Mugabe present to the students of UMass in 1986 when he got the degree? At the time he just finishing the Gukurahundi campaign.

I guess the example was it's OK to do anything as long as you are paying lip service to opposing Western colonialism.

Indeed. Or just opposing the USA.
Mugabe was good because he was a Marxist anti-American.
Muzorewa was evil because he was pro-American.

108 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:15:37pm

re: #93 schultzw

what about taking a shot of tequila for each stroke over par at each hole?

I don't do shots. How about a margarita?

109 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:15:43pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.

Actually it was invented by cloistered Byzantine nuns. The muslims just borrowed it.

110 The Shadow Do  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:01pm

re: #86 Bob in Breckenridge

Shit, FINDING the green would be good enough.

/After many beers.

Once ran a tourney using the Budweiser handicap system. Deduct a stroke for each beer consumed....

111 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:03pm

re: #80 NomadOfNorad

How do you promote someone OUT of the SCOTUS? The SCOTUS is as high as the courts can GO!

I say, these are the jokes, son!

/boy's as sharp as a wet leather sack

//joking

112 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:06pm

re: #105 jcm

We might have a drinking problem....
Nah! Hand me another one...
;-P

Wish I could. I'm at work...I think...

113 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:17pm

re: #63 Occasional Reader

Scantily-clad cheerleaders would help, too.

And golf hooligans in the gallery.

114 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:21pm

re: #108 Bob in Breckenridge

that would work just as well.

I think knickers should be mandatory in golf.

115 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:23pm

re: #103 Hard Right

It just occured to me, John Daly would be the KING of the AJGA.

As long as he promised NOT to golf without his shirt on.

116 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:41pm

re: #85 rhino2

I would say lawmaker but hey, they already fill that role as well!

Well, you can bet there will be some Constitutional amendments coming along Real Soon Now. IINM, I just heard mention of one going onto the ballots in a few months that will ban gay marriages. It was in a top-of-the-hour newsbrief on the local radio station here (WOKV) that brings me Limbaugh, as part of the news about those gay marriages about to start at 5pm in Californi-eye-aye. Mind you, that one was from a Ninth Circus Court ruling, though, wasn't it?

117 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:16:45pm

re: #103 Hard Right

It just occured to me, John Daly would be the KING of the AJGA.

Oh yeah!

118 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:03pm

re: #110 The Shadow Do

Once ran a tourney using the Budweiser handicap system. Deduct a stroke for each beer consumed....

That's a great idea!

119 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:05pm

re: #4 Dustyvet

And doing this will solve what?

we wash our hands of this man. um, because, well, someone told us we should.

120 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:11pm

re: #113 Cygnus

And golf hooligans in the gallery.

Belching contest at the 18 hole.

121 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:20pm

re: #104 Dianna

I wish I could play . It is one sport that can be played by an individual well into their senior years.

122 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:23pm

re: #65 uptight

What is the world coming too when Marxist thugs can't be assured of the unqualified support of academia?

Dammit - next thing you know Berkeley will revoke Pol Pot's doctorate.

I'd think that would be a cold day in Hell situation there.

123 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:28pm

re: #109 mama winger

Actually it was invented by cloistered Byzantine nuns. The muslims just borrowed it.

Robin Williams... how gold was invented.
*WARNING* major F-bombs...

124 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:39pm

re: #114 schultzw

that would work just as well.

I think knickers should be mandatory in golf.

From your lips to Payne Stewart's ears!

God rest his soul.

125 funkyfantom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:51pm

Anyone ever compile a master list of all the Democrat party politicians who have kissed Mugabe's ass over the years?

126 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:51pm

re: #117 Ward Cleaver

Oh yeah!

As long as he kept his shirt on....yech

127 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:17:51pm

HA !

128 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:02pm

re: #91 The Other Les

Given that he's past 80 that isn't going to be a very long time.

Reinstate the Nuremberg Tribunal for dictators in general and their minions.

If it were an international tribunal, the only people it would try would be Americans and Israelis.........unless they're anti-American and anti-Israeli.

129 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:06pm

ROCCO! UNREAL!

130 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:07pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.


when they were in MO-Andrews, Scotland?

131 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:08pm

monster putt by Mediate at the 15th

132 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:12pm

re: #96 Bob in Breckenridge

Rocco's got about 12 feet for birdie, Tiger's in the sand, 170 yds away, He's not in the rough. Sorry.

Hey there, Tiger in the sand
Is this place at your command?

133 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:14pm

re: #112 Hard Right

Wish I could. I'm at work...I think...

Work... what' tha....
OH SHIT!

134 The Shadow Do  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:39pm

re: #118 Bob in Breckenridge

That's a great idea!

Scoring goes something like this: birdie, birdie, par, par, bogey, double bogey, triple bogey, aw who the hell cares...

135 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:45pm

re: #126 Hard Right

As long as he kept his shirt on....yech

And chain-smoked!

136 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:45pm

re: #115 Bob in Breckenridge

As long as he promised NOT to golf without his shirt on.

Whoa, again someone beats me to a thought. Spooky.

137 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:51pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims living in scotland.

There laddie, you forgot the bits about St. Andrew and his lands

138 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:18:53pm

re: #70 Ward Cleaver

What, and take his name off the Political Science building?

I thought it was the Pol Pot Institute For Agrarian Reform.

139 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:19:10pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.

Torrey Pines is the 65,478th holiest place in Islam.

140 boatguyjim  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:19:42pm

My wife is from South Africa and she has relatives in Rhodesia (Oops, Zimbabwe). We've tried to get them to move but they are retired and set in their ways. I don't imagine its a good place to be an elderly white man.

141 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:19:52pm

re: #71 Hard Right

It would help tremendously.
Sounds like we need to start our own golf league.
AJGA
Average Joe Golf Association

I found some golf shots online, but unfortunately that association is NSFW.

142 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:20:07pm

re: #138 The Other Les

I thought it was the Pol Pot Institute For Agrarian Reform.

The History building.

/this is the year zero

143 parisparamus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:20:17pm

And he deserved the honorary degree in which year? As late as when? WTF?

144 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:20:22pm

catch y'all later, see you on the flip side

145 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:20:52pm

Wet t-shirt contest on the 9th hole.

Hmmm. I may actually have to try starting this league!

146 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:20:58pm

Rocco takes the lead!

/and Tiger still isn't in the hole yet

147 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:02pm

re: #140 boatguyjim

My wife is from South Africa and she has relatives in Rhodesia (Oops, Zimbabwe). We've tried to get them to move but they are retired and set in their ways. I don't imagine its a good place to be an elderly white man.

I guess it wouldn't be, eh?

By the way - I like your avatar. Very cool.

148 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:05pm

Rocco has a one shot lead with 3 to go!

149 kynna  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:05pm

They're just now noticing this monster is a ... monster? They should change their name to the University of Duh.

150 LeonidasOfSparta  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:09pm

to quote Dhimmi Carter "That is not the Mugabe I knew..."
(I've decided that that's the new buzzphrase of all self-serving politicians who get into bed with the flea-ridden dogs of the loony left and the marxist fringe just to get elected, and sell their souls to the lowest bidder for a few years of power .....and then cry about it like babies)

151 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:33pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.

I thought it was scotsmen.

152 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:40pm

re: #139 NJDhockeyfan

Torrey Pines is the 65,478th holiest place in Islam.

Or it's the 18th holiest place... nyuk nyuk

153 Miss Molly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:48pm

When Rhodesia was Rhodesia it was one of the few successes in Africa. Look at it now as Simbobwe.

154 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:53pm

re: #140 boatguyjim

My wife is from South Africa and she has relatives in Rhodesia (Oops, Zimbabwe). We've tried to get them to move but they are retired and set in their ways. I don't imagine its a good place to be an elderly white man.

"If we lived in Rhodesia, you'd have someone to clean that up, Mum!"

- "SHUT UP!"

/monty python reference

/most awful family in britain

/more beans!

155 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:21:55pm

re: #151 Mars Needs Neocons

I thought it was scotsmen.

Muslim Scotts?

156 Maximu§  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:22:05pm

I'm sure UC Berkely will pick up the slack and award another honorary degree to Mr. Mugabe.

157 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:22:48pm

Saw a great anti-war protest in the Twin Cities yesterday. Bunch of moonbats with signs on a ped. bridge over I-94. Stuff like "Not another 100 years" and "Support Education: End the War." Definitely a foretaste of the fun to come in September.

158 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:22:48pm

re: #140 boatguyjim

My wife is from South Africa and she has relatives in Rhodesia (Oops, Zimbabwe). We've tried to get them to move but they are retired and set in their ways. I don't imagine its a good place to be an elderly white man.


i'd move

159 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:22:53pm

re: #155 Hard Right

Muslim Scotts?

Unexploded Scotsmen?

160 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:09pm

re: #151 Mars Needs Neocons

I thought it was scotsmen.

That is a lie spread by the filthy infidels, who lie, and tell lies all the time, because they are liars.

161 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:14pm

re: #143 parisparamus

And he deserved the honorary degree in which year? As late as when? WTF?

Don't worry, he got a replacement honorary degree from The University of Blood Stained Tinpot Despot Tyrant Assh*le University - UBSTDTA

I hear Hugo Chavez is taking online classes from there right now.

162 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:16pm

Where do golfers go the bathroom? It's a long game.

163 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:37pm

re: #130 Eowyn2

when they were in MO-Andrews, Scotland?

Yes. The 1467th holiest place in Islam.
or is that holey-est?

164 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:41pm

re: #157 schultzw

Saw a great anti-war protest in the Twin Cities yesterday. Bunch of moonbats with signs on a ped. bridge over I-94. Stuff like "Not another 100 years" and "Support Education: End the War." Definitely a foretaste of the fun to come in September.

How many... or should I say... how few were there?

165 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:47pm

re: #116 NomadOfNorad

Well, you can bet there will be some Constitutional amendments coming along Real Soon Now. IINM, I just heard mention of one going onto the ballots in a few months that will ban gay marriages. It was in a top-of-the-hour newsbrief on the local radio station here (WOKV) that brings me Limbaugh, as part of the news about those gay marriages about to start at 5pm in Californi-eye-aye. Mind you, that one was from a Ninth Circus Court ruling, though, wasn't it?

A Constitutional amendment to keep the courts from playing legislators would be wonderful. Oh wait, THATS IN THERE ALREADY! Oh well...

166 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:23:50pm

re: #162 mama winger

why do you think there's bunches of trees? they're not there to challenge the golfers

167 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:04pm

re: #164 NomadOfNorad

About 20 or so.

168 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:05pm

re: #150 LeonidasOfSparta

to quote Dhimmi Carter "That is not the Mugabe I knew..."
(I've decided that that's the new buzzphrase of all self-serving politicians who get into bed with the flea-ridden dogs of the loony left and the marxist fringe just to get elected, and sell their souls to the lowest bidder for a few years of power .....and then cry about it like babies)

they go to the highest bidder with the lowest moral equivelancy.

169 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:15pm

re: #157 schultzw

"Support Education: End the War."

that doesn't even make sense to me

170 Maximu§  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:16pm

re: #162 mama winger

Where do golfers go the bathroom? It's a long game.

Its called a diaper....

171 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:20pm

re: #155 Hard Right

Muslim Scotts?

Exactly. Mohammed Angus al-Ferguson.

172 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:50pm

re: #166 schultzw

why do you think there's bunches of trees? they're not there to challenge the golfers

Ahhhhhh .......

173 Ben Hur  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:24:55pm

re: #155 Hard Right

Muslim Scotts?

Report: Terror Suspects Plotted to Set Up Islamic State in Scotland

Two suspected Islamic jihadists were allegedly plotting to set up a separate state for "oppressed" Muslims — inside Scotland.

During their terror trial in London, Aabid Khan and Sultan Muhammad, both 23, said they were trying to establish the state as a safe haven for other jihadists that would be run according to Sharia law, the BBC reported. It would later be used as a base to “discreetly train” for attacks against non-believers once its residents “strengthened themselves.”

GO FIGURE.

174 schultzw  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:25:11pm

re: #169 mama winger

I think that what goes through the minds of these moonbats is that if we're funding the war, we're taking money out of the education system.

175 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:25:12pm

re: #170 Maximu§

Its called a diaper....

ewwwww

:O

176 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:25:15pm

Yeah yeah, Mugabe's a bad man. I get it. But Jimmy Carter's behind putting him in power!? Now that got my attention. Carter! Carter! Carter! That man has the Midas touch in reverse: everything he touches turn to sh#t.

If he doesn't end up under the Obama bus, one day that Administration (*spit*spit*) is going to do some real bad damage. Heaven help us.

177 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:03pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.

/And all this time I thought the Russians invented it.

178 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:06pm

re: #174 schultzw

I think that what goes through the minds of these moonbats is that if we're funding the war, we're taking money out of the education system.

Like it's a zero sum game. Like there are separate bank accounts - this one marked Education, that one marked Evil War Fund.

179 The Other Les  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:07pm

re: #128 wolfie

If it were an international tribunal, the only people it would try would be Americans and Israelis.........unless they're anti-American and anti-Israeli.

It's time to remind everyone that the United States of America is the dominant power on this planet.

You know, nothing passes on the surface of our oceans without the permission of the United States Navy. Some people need to learn to respect the sovereign authority of the United States and our Allies or have that permission revoked.

180 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:09pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.

Muslims in Scotland.

181 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:33pm

re: #70 Ward Cleaver

What, and take his name off the Political Science building?


Was that Pol Pot Poly Sci?

182 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:37pm

re: #44 Bob in Breckenridge


One tally is for the playoff, the other all rounds (since thursday) combined.

183 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:26:46pm

re: #171 Occasional Reader

Achmed McGee

184 boatguyjim  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:27:17pm

re: #139 NJDhockeyfan
Now thats some funny Shiite

185 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:27:57pm

re: #184 boatguyjim

Now thats some funny Shiite

What? You stepped in Shiite?

186 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:28:02pm

re: #165 rhino2

A Constitutional amendment to keep the courts from playing legislators would be wonderful. Oh wait, THATS IN THERE ALREADY! Oh well...

A Constitutional amendment to make it easier to remove rogue judges would be nice, or one that makes it easer to OVERRULE SCOTUS decisions when they clearly reek, or both. Or maybe even one that makes it harder for the SCOTUS to overturn laws that were voted in by a vast majority of the people: like, the SCOTUS decision has to be unanimous in such cases or it's not binding.

187 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:28:11pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

Golf was invented by Muslims.

Don't tell that to the Scots - they'll have you for that remark :-)

188 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:28:57pm

re: #162 mama winger

Where do golfers go the bathroom? It's a long game.

There's porta-potties all around the course.

189 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:29:05pm

re: #60 Hard Right


How's this..

That's the Price is Right.....

190 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:29:11pm

re: #187 yma o hyd

Don't tell that to the Scots - they'll have you for that remark :-)

On the edge of a cliff? (John Connely joke)

191 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:29:26pm

re: #118 Bob in Breckenridge

re: #120 Hard Right

Two words: "CART POLO!"

192 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:30:05pm

re: #191 CIA Reject

re: #120 Hard Right

Two words: "CART POLO!"

We'll save that for sudden death.

193 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:30:15pm
194 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:30:24pm

re: #132 OldLineTexan

Hey there, Tiger in the sand
Is this place at your command?


Are you saying that it's the woman in him that makes him want to play that game?

195 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:30:45pm

The price is wrong B****!

196 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:31:18pm

MY GOSH Did you see that shot by Tiger just now ? ? ? ?

197 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:31:25pm

re: #162 mama winger

Where do golfers go the bathroom? It's a long game.

That's another job for the caddy. "Oh, P*ss Boy!"

198 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:31:27pm

re: #190 Hard Right

On the edge of a cliff? (John Connely joke)

:-)))

199 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:31:43pm

He looks like he might cry.

200 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:31:50pm

re: #195 Hard Right

No upding for the Happy Gilmore?

201 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:32:31pm

re: #186 NomadOfNorad

A Constitutional amendment to make it easier to remove rogue judges would be nice, or one that makes it easer to OVERRULE SCOTUS decisions when they clearly reek, or both. Or maybe even one that makes it harder for the SCOTUS to overturn laws that were voted in by a vast majority of the people: like, the SCOTUS decision has to be unanimous in such cases or it's not binding.

Well I may need to re-read a little bit, but I was never under the impression that courts got to overturn laws period, seeing as laws are voted on by representatives of the people who are also voted in...and judges are appointed. So it was my understanding that judges got to enforce laws passed by congress and go no further. If a law is unconstitutional the congress should repeal it, it shouldn't have to be ruled on by appointed judges who once they are appointed are there the rest of their working lives. Maybe I'm being a little too hopeful.

202 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:32:44pm

re: #170 Maximu§

Its called a diaper....

Only at Cape Canaveral.

203 boatguyjim  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:33:11pm

re: #171 Occasional Reader

Exactly. Mohammed Angus al-Ferguson.

You guys are killing me, I'm rolling on the floor here at work and people are wondering whats up with me.

204 boatguyjim  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:34:24pm

re: #147 mama winger

Thanks, That waht I did in the Navy for 20 years. I just retired in Dec of 2006

205 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:34:39pm

re: #200 Endangered in MASS

No upding for the Happy Gilmore?

Oops. There ya go. B****. ;)

206 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:34:59pm

re: #201 rhino2

That may be the way it was designed, but that's not the way it has been working lately, or for some time for that matter.

207 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:35:22pm

re: #194 jamgarr

Are you saying that it's the woman in him that makes him want to play that game?

I love it when an obscure reference makes it. ;)

208 alegrias  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:36:04pm

Thank you Charles for helping report on another Carter Master of Disasters Come HOme to Roost

Folks, please congratulate the brave BBC reporter undercover in Zimbabwe --nearly caught by drunk Mugabe thuglord this weekend

Glimpse of Mugabe Terror[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

209 mama winger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:36:11pm

re: #204 boatguyjim

Thanks, That waht I did in the Navy for 20 years. I just retired in Dec of 2006

God bless you, and thank you for your service. I'm a military mom myself. I know the sacrifices you and your family made for all of us. This is a debt I can never repay.

210 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:36:17pm

Evolution in action: Mugabe thread evolves into golf thread.

211 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:37:01pm

re: #203 boatguyjim

You guys are killing me, I'm rolling on the floor here at work and people are wondering whats up with me.

Tell them to go ahead and just play through.

212 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:37:28pm

re: #210 Cygnus

Evolution in action: Mugabe thread evolves into golf thread.

Mugabe plays golf? No surprise. I hear he's a........hacker. Sorry.

213 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:37:35pm

re: #210 Cygnus

Evolution in action: Mugabe thread evolves into golf thread.

Muslim golf thread, which is PROOF of Unintelligent Design.

/dammit

214 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:38:19pm

re: #207 OldLineTexan

I love it when an obscure reference makes it. ;)

Obscurity is my strongsuit.

215 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:38:56pm

re: #210 Cygnus

Evolution in action: Mugabe thread evolves into golf thread.

Since directly advocating high velocity lead poisoning is frowned by our house, it's really code for wishing a SEAL or JDAM would score a hole in one.

216 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:39:11pm

re: #160 Occasional Reader

That is a lie spread by the filthy infidels, who lie, and tell lies all the time, because they are liars.

Tolkien said Bullroarer Took created the game of golf when the goblin king Golfimbuls head was struck off into a rabbit hole.

217 alegrias  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:39:22pm

Today: Strongly worded letters to Mubage~With Love & Thanks, UN!

UN envoy due for Zimbabwe talks

Attacks by suspected Zanu-PF supporters have been on the increase
A top UN official is due in Zimbabwe for a five-day visit ahead of the presidential run-off, which continues to be marred by political violence.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

218 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:40:10pm

re: #216 Mars Needs Neocons

Tolkien said Bullroarer Took created the game of golf when the goblin king Golfimbuls head was struck off into a rabbit hole.


I thought it was the Proudfoots.

219 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:40:59pm

re: #218 jamgarr

I thought it was the Proudfoots.

No, it was Angus Al Hamad!

220 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:41:30pm

re: #208 alegrias

Thank you Charles for helping report on another Carter Master of Disasters Come HOme to Roost

Folks, please congratulate the brave BBC reporter undercover in Zimbabwe --nearly caught by drunk Mugabe thuglord this weekend

Glimpse of Mugabe Terror[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Time and again we heard that same charge being levelled against people: "You voted wrongly and we're going to punish you."

Just like the Democrat party.

221 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:42:58pm
222 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:43:10pm

re: #218 jamgarr

I thought it was the Proudfoots.

ProudFEET!

223 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:43:23pm

re: #218 jamgarr

I thought it was the Proudfoots.

Nope, a Took.

224 jamgarr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:43:25pm

re: #221 buzzsawmonkey

Proudfeet!


Ding! Ding! Ding!

225 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:44:05pm

re: #221 buzzsawmonkey

Proudfeet!

Proudfeets?
Goose, geese?
Mice, meece?

226 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:44:20pm

re: #205 Hard Right

Tough room.

227 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:44:35pm

re: #223 Mars Needs Neocons

Nope, a Took.

I was going to go with the joke, but got beaten to it, figured it wasn't worth it.

228 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:45:14pm

re: #226 Endangered in MASS

Tough room.

I've had worse.

229 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:45:26pm

re: #15 Mars Needs Neocons

saw that a couple of days ago.

230 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:45:36pm

re: #224 jamgarr

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Actually, it went the other way, didn't it?

231 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:46:52pm

re: #229 FamHistoryGuy

saw that a couple of days ago.

Just noticed today on the banner for my email.

232 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:47:51pm

I just checked my profile and I'm closing on 3,000 comments. Do I get a prize for that or do I have to wait for 5,000? :)

233 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:48:43pm

re: #229 FamHistoryGuy

saw that a couple of days ago.

Me too. And I think I posted it.

234 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:49:52pm

re: #233 Cygnus

Me too. And I think I posted it.

Post, or post not. There is no think!

235 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:51:52pm

re: #234 OldLineTexan

Post, or post not. There is no think!

LOL

Oh and Cygnus, no prize, but there is a bonus in your Zionist paycheck at 5000.

236 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 12:52:39pm

Rocco ahead by one, after 17!

66-67

237 Alibaba  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:08:14pm

Yet in New York City, Charles "I hate white people" Barron, our illustrious city councilman, gave Murgabe an award and posed with him for pictures. As long as black people kill black people, Barron et al. don't care.re: #3 me

238 Goody  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:10:55pm

Thanks for reminding people of the history on this.. The left was in love with this guy in the 70s because he claimed to be a Marxist--the idea of capitalism saving an African country was unthinkable. Not many folks out there admitting that they put this guy in power now.

239 BingoBunny  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:12:27pm

Hows Mr Young's white Girl friend and his new baby doing? The one some said was Edwards child.

240 rhino2  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:15:19pm

re: #206 NomadOfNorad

That may be the way it was designed, but that's not the way it has been working lately, or for some time for that matter.

Yeah I know, it makes me a sad panda.

241 ballantrae  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:15:25pm

That son of a bitch.

Thank you for bringing this information to light Charles.

-ron

242 Dustyvet  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:21:28pm

re: #13 CyanSnowHawk

Nothing really, but the academics involved will feel a little better, as they pat themselves on the back for 'doing something'. They might even get motivated enough to lobby the UN to send an angry letter now.

thanks for clearing that up:)

243 fooburger  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:42:03pm

This is ridiculous, the '79 Rhodesian elections were a complete sham, providing special privilege and guaranteed seats to whites. I think this deserves a comment noting that by criticizing Carter and his judgment/actions in this case, there is no support for the segregated elections involved.

244 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:42:12pm

re: #21 Yashmak

- Diamond Bullet

You beat me to it. I was just thinking the same thing! I recall as a small child thinking how nice a man he seemed when he was shown on TV. It's only over the last 4 or 5 years I've come to know how well and truly he screwed up just about every foreign policy issue he put his hands to.

And we're poised to elect another Democrat to high office who displayes remarkable similarities. It's true that those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Not only that, but BO has Zbignew in his tent. That guy is truly one of the worst foreign policy advisers to walk the earth. If that guy gets to run foreign policy, I can guarantee you bad things in the future. He tripped on his genitals at every turn. I do not know why I continue to see his mug around.

245 Paul  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:44:43pm

Thank God Carter served only one term, I believe our country might not have survived a second.

246 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 1:45:04pm

re: #243 fooburger

Guaranteed seats are a fact of life in may places, Lebanon for example. Its a shame that Mr. Smith has been shown to be spot on and that Mr. Mugabe was put in power by the moron we had as president at the time.

247 Noah's Arrrgh  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 2:13:14pm
UMass trustees strip Mugabe of honorary degree after lobbying by students, Rep. Kevin Murphy.

It's about time. Now, if we can only get the Pulitzer board to strip Walter Duranty of his Pulitzer Prize.

248 rb4269  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:14:29pm

“We don’t do this lightly,” Wilson said prior to the vote. “We’ve never done this before. We don’t view honorary degrees as something that can be given and then taken back. It would be only in the most egregious of cases that one would consider doing that.”

Watch for these headlines real soon:

Degree Withdrawn, Mugabe Government Collapses
New Dawn For Zimbabweans Thanks To UMass
Mugabe Spanked. World Cheers U Mass
Fearing Mugabe's Fate, World Dictators Promise To Change

249 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:34:35pm

Not so long ago, a regime like Mugabe's would have been a prime target of an outfit like "Executive Outcomes." Too bad they are no longer around.
'Nuff said.

-S-

250 eaglewingz08  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 3:52:22pm

Watch for the Ugly Face of Racism Appears At UMass: Embattled President of Zimbabwe Stripped Of Honorary Degree By Neocons.

251 krypto  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 4:07:14pm

re: #248 rb4269

“We don’t do this lightly,” Wilson said prior to the vote. “We’ve never done this before. We don’t view honorary degrees as something that can be given and then taken back. It would be only in the most egregious of cases that one would consider doing that.”

Watch for these headlines real soon:

Degree Withdrawn, Mugabe Government Collapses
New Dawn For Zimbabweans Thanks To UMass
Mugabe Spanked. World Cheers U Mass
Fearing Mugabe's Fate, World Dictators Promise To Change

The thought is very amusing, but it looks like they were just trying to correct a major mistake and embarrassment to the extent that they still could, not change the world by it.

252 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 4:36:32pm

mugabe is jimmy's monster.
jimmy has orchestrated so much evil in the world.
he is a sinful vile person who sits in church and teaches sunday school to children.
a devil reading bible passages.

253 jopa416  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:04:20pm

re: #252 nyc redneck

I could not agree with you more. Liberals have wrought so much misery in the world under the guise of "Caring". They are pompous jackasses.

254 Aussie Infidel  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:16:00pm

Actually I know a bit about this topic having been in Rhodesia at the end of UDI.

Not only the Carter Administration should be 'horsewhipped' for their 'sins' in 1980 Rhodesia but so too should the Brits. We has British Army officers 'poncing about' Rhodesia at the time venting politicvally correctBS about how the terrorists were now the good guys and the Rhodesians who supported UDI were the bad guys. Magabe's ZANLA set about destroying its 'co-terror' ally ZIPRA with the help of a Brigade Group of North Korean murderers. The Brits and the US Administration said not a word. Nothing ...zip..... zilch...nana! That makes the US AND Britain complicit in the murder of 10,000+ Zulus from the Bulawayo region.

The Carter administration the British government and a whole bunch of British Army officers have blood on their hands by establishing the conditions within Rhodesia that led to this massive crime against humanity.

So when you hear political correctness spouted next time, don't just assume that it's just an irritant to be endured in the modern western world. This fascist political philosophy actually kills!

255 Aussie Infidel  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:16:57pm

has = had. grrrr typos!

256 avspatti  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:27:10pm

re: #66 Bob in Breckenridge

Yep! Hockey it is. ;)

257 avspatti  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 6:59:53pm

re: #201 rhino2

If a law is unconstitutional the congress should repeal it, it shouldn't have to be ruled on by appointed judges who once they are appointed are there the rest of their working lives. Maybe I'm being a little too hopeful.

What should be repealed or something is appointing justices for life. How could that be done? A constitutional amendment?

258 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:23:12pm

test

259 LeBain  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:24:48pm

Your extensive lifting from the Lowell Sun and the NY Sun are examples of what the AP is complaining about. You're using more than a reasonalbe amount of copying than is tasteful under typical fair use of copyrighted material.

260 BLBfootballs  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:53pm

Astonishing -- was there any corner of Carter's presidency that was free from this sort of foulness?

261 norar  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:24:56pm

Who was advising Carter on foreign policy?

262 markie  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 2:17:39am

Billy?

263 rorschach  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:01:06am

Meanwhile...

open memory hole...insert history


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