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And Now for Some 'Origin of Species'

Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:54:57 pm PDT

A little comic relief, on a highly contentious topic, from a highly talented descendant of Tom Lehrer, Chris Smither.

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1 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 7:56:32pm

*sigh*

Finally.

I've met Chris Smither. He's a very nice guy.

2 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 7:57:28pm

ID Thread 2.0

It turtles all the way down......

3 winston06  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 7:59:19pm

Music is always good... Better than politics

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 7:59:27pm

Time for the bed thing. G'night lizards

G'night Jason.

5 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 7:59:32pm

Just got back from the ball game so I missed the Jindal thread. Was it bloody? (I'm too chicken to look.)

6 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:00:01pm

re: #3 winston06

Music is always good... Better than politics

Except when they mix them.

7 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:00:53pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

Except when they mix them.

Kind of like politics and religion.

8 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:01:31pm

re: #5 MandyManners

It should go on for a few days. You can always check back tomorrow.

9 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:01:35pm

re: #5 MandyManners

Just got back from the ball game so I missed the Jindal thread. Was it bloody? (I'm too chicken to look.)

No one got the axe.

10 winston06  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:01:35pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

agreed!

I have always believed that athletes and artists should stay away from political activism.

11 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:01:56pm
12 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:02:37pm

It's rutan's spaceship one

13 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:02:40pm

Not to pick nits or anything, Charles. But I'm pretty sure it's Smither. No 's'.

14 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:04:34pm
15 Grantman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:05:44pm

I miss Tom Lehrer. *sigh* Funny guy.

This guy's a good picker, too. Easy with just a few chords but good mastery of his fingers. Pretty effortless.

I wonder how many bars he's played through the years...

16 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:05:53pm

re: #12 Ojoe

It's rutan's spaceship one

And the White Knight.

17 Syrah  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:05:58pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

Except when they mix them.

When sautéed in butter and garlic, they can go together quite nicely.

18 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:06:04pm

re: #14 Ojoe

Holy moly.

19 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:06:26pm
The whole thing works like clockwork over time
I'll just sit back in the shade
While everyone else is gittin' laid
that's what i call intelligent design


Ha!

20 snowtravel  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:06:58pm

Picking this precise ought to be criminal.

21 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:06:59pm

re: #16 lawhawk

Yes, more fun than discussing that other stuff.

"The only way to fail is to quit."

—Rutan

22 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:07:01pm

re: #8 Noam Sayin'

It should go on for a few days. You can always check back tomorrow.

I be skeered.

23 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:07:13pm
24 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:07:22pm

re: #9 DistantThunder

No one got the axe.

Not even a rap on the knuckles?

25 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:07:58pm

re: #9 DistantThunder

No one got the axe.

Yet.

26 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:08:06pm

re: #17 Syrah

When sautéed in butter and garlic, they can go together quite nicely.

With some flat-leaf parsely.

27 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:08:14pm

Eddie Izzard - Evolution
/Language warning

28 freetoken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:08:56pm

re: #5 MandyManners

I'd call it more primordially muddily oozy, than bloody.

29 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:09:01pm

re: #14 Ojoe

Radial chopper

What's that thingy in the middle with all the spokes coming out from it?

30 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:10:35pm

re: #28 freetoken

I'd call it more primordially muddily oozy, than bloody.

All mucked-up, then.

31 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:11:08pm

re: #29 MandyManners

What's that thingy in the middle with all the spokes coming out from it?

The aircraft in the background should provide a clue.

32 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:11:36pm

re: #14 Ojoe

Radial chopper

That is WILD!

Turbine street legal bike.

33 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:12:19pm

re: #2 jcm

ID Thread 2.0

It turtles all the way down......

ROFL!

Someone HAD to bring up THAT one in this thread! Muahahahahahaha!

34 Syrah  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:12:22pm

re: #26 MandyManners

With some flat-leaf parsely.

Yes, just so.

I think I will pour have a Rum and Coke with mine.

:-D

35 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:12:28pm

re: #29 MandyManners

What's that thingy in the middle with all the spokes coming out from it?

That is a radial engine!

36 Grantman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:12:36pm

#29

What's that thingy in the middle with all the spokes coming out from it?

That's why it's listed as a radial chopper. Radial engine.

37 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:13:36pm
38 Syrah  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:14:17pm

re: #33 NomadOfNorad

ROFL!

Someone HAD to bring up THAT one in this thread! Muahahahahahaha!

What so funny?

You're not one of those heathen a-turtle-ist are you?

39 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:15:40pm

re: #38 Syrah

What so funny?

You're not one of those heathen a-turtle-ist are you?

No comment. :D :D :D

40 freetoken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:16:18pm

re: #30 MandyManners

All mucked-up, then.

In so many words, yeah. I have yet to see one of the ID threads that doesn't devolve into a debate about God, rather than the specific topic at hand. Today the topic was Jindal, and his tap dance routine around the question. However, there were very few comments about Jindal in particular, or how politicians ought to handle such questions, or what it means for McCain.

Rather, people continue to discuss the topics of "theory" and "Darwinism", cheap shots about climate change, or why Charles (allegedly) is picking on religious people.

41 jcm  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:20:04pm

I'm out of here.
Night all!

A society will remain as free or as enslaved as the conscious dispositions of individuals determine it shall be. Just as the roots of oppression are found in passivity, the foundations of our liberty reside in highly energized and focused minds that insist upon their independence. There are no shortcuts, no structures or doctrines that can be erected, no hallowed documents to be revered, to save us the effort of continually challenging those who would presume to exercise authority over our lives.
— Butler Shaffer

42 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:23:00pm

Breitbart TV

Olbermann Names FNC "Worlds' Worst" For Russert Coverage But Fails To Detail The "Offending" Statements.

1) What the hell did they (supposedly) say ?

2) Matthews called Russert a dupe and inferior IN YOUR INTERVIEW, you sick,twisted tool.

43 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:24:35pm

re: #14 Ojoe

No nonono no. Put 'that' back in the 'airplane' you got it from.
You are gonna get someone killed son.

Next thing heard:
"Hey y-all watch this!"

44 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:26:14pm

re: #40 freetoken

I agree. It will sort itself out eventually but it's going to take a while.

45 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:26:56pm

re: #31 Dar ul Harb

The aircraft in the background should provide a clue.

I'm utterly clueless.

46 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:27:19pm

re: #34 Syrah

Yes, just so.

I think I will pour have a Rum and Coke with mine.

:-D

White wine for me.

47 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:27:52pm

re: #35 jcm

That is a radial engine!

Huh?

48 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:28:22pm

re: #36 Grantman

#29

That's why it's listed as a radial chopper. Radial engine.

What? (Yes, I'm that ignorant of such matters.)

Never mind.

49 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:28:58pm

re: #37 Dar ul Harb

Radial engine

Ahhhhhhhhh. Thank you.

50 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:29:14pm

re: #45 MandyManners

They took a similar engine, and built a motorcycle around it.

That thing must be loud as hell. Yumpin' yiminy.

51 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:30:20pm

re: #40 freetoken

In so many words, yeah. I have yet to see one of the ID threads that doesn't devolve into a debate about God, rather than the specific topic at hand. Today the topic was Jindal, and his tap dance routine around the question. However, there were very few comments about Jindal in particular, or how politicians ought to handle such questions, or what it means for McCain.

Rather, people continue to discuss the topics of "theory" and "Darwinism", cheap shots about climate change, or why Charles (allegedly) is picking on religious people.

Oh. So it was like the other ID threads.

52 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:31:04pm
But where they came from aint nobody knows..

And that sums it up nicely. Nobody knows. Lots of people think they know.

53 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:31:05pm

I hope that thing comes with a belt guard. Yikes!
Right off of the crankshaft to the transmission.

54 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:31:16pm

re: #50 Noam Sayin'

They took a similar engine, and built a motorcycle around it.

That thing must be loud as hell. Yumpin' yiminy.

I like peace and quiet.

BBL

55 Syrah  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:31:29pm

re: #46 MandyManners

White wine for me.

How about a nice Chardonnay. (Washington Hills 2000.) It a fine two-buck chuck. Good for cooking and drinking.

56 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:32:58pm

re: #49 MandyManners

Ahhhhhhhhh. Thank you.

Well, if you liked that, I'll show you the Wankel!

57 Syrah  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:33:09pm

re: #52 Mich-again

And that sums it up nicely. Nobody knows. Lots of people think they know.

The Turtles know. But they ain't tell'en.

58 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:33:22pm

re: #53 Electron Shuffler

That's the primary, or so I learned on American Chopper. I don't know what the primary does, but I imagine it does something before something else does a similar thing.

Then the wheels go around - really f*cking fast.

I drive a scooter.

59 poteen  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:33:38pm

re: #14 Ojoe

Radial chopper

Scattershield under the seat? Or do you ride with a cast iron nut cup?

60 freetoken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:35:42pm

re: #51 MandyManners

Well, the thread is still going strong and thus may turn evolve into something useful... or it could be just another dead end street on the map of evolutionary political blogs. Killgore may be hoping for the former, while I fear the latter is the case.

61 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:35:47pm

re: #58 Noam Sayin'

Primary Drive

I likes my airplane engines in... well airplanes. Not at ear level.
Nice work tho.

62 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:37:01pm

Why is the law that I have to wear a seatbelt in my car when the guy on the motorcycle doesn't have to wear one.

63 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:37:19pm

re: #35 jcm

How do the pistons connect to the drive shaft on such an engine? Just got curious about that, for some reason.

64 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:37:57pm

re: #61 Electron Shuffler

Just testing you...

65 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:37:59pm

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

66 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:38:27pm

re: #63 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Duct tape. Just as simple as that!

67 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:39:50pm

re: #66 realwest

Ha! The handyman's fixit.

Alright, folks. It's been a long weekend. Off to bed.

68 swamprat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:40:35pm

joke ding, Charles.
Don't shoot!

69 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:41:35pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

I see that. Yet I don't see any posts from one of them.

70 lummox  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:41:48pm

re: #62 Mich-again

Why is the law that I have to wear a seatbelt in my car when the guy on the motorcycle doesn't have to wear one.

I'll bet that if you were wearing a helmet in your car, no-one would notice if you were wearing a seatbelt.

71 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:42:19pm

RonPaulBlimpie is a busy beaver.

72 Irene NYC  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:42:30pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

Kinda proves the Evolutionists' points, no?
;)

73 swamprat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:42:50pm

re: #69 gman
They think they're invisible because they have their eyes closed!

74 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:42:55pm

Gore Created Global Warming.

75 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:43:01pm

re: #70 lummox

I'll bet that if you were wearing a helmet in your car, no-one would notice if you were wearing a seatbelt.

Who said I don't /. Yeah how long till kids have to wear helmets in cars...

76 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:43:05pm

re: #62 Mich-again
And how come motorcycles don't have airbags? Huh?
Some intelligent design at work right there!

77 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:43:57pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

If they're using Spy, they're coming over here for that one.

78 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:45:48pm

re: #63 Noam Sayin'

I can't remember.

79 snowcrash  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:46:14pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout
He has problems with the LDS.

80 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:46:17pm

re: #76 realwest

Bubble Boy?

81 jaunte  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:46:30pm

Dinging is not yet proven to be a factor in natural selection.
Wasting time dinging instead of mating may likely be.

82 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:47:29pm

re: #73 swamprat

They think they're invisible because they have their eyes closed!


If you're going to ding down an entire thread at least jump into the arena with us and battle.

83 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:47:56pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

And even this thread!

84 Clemente  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:48:02pm

Londonistan Update (AFP) -

Headscarf rejection wins British woman 4,000 pounds

The tribunal dismissed a claim of direct discrimination, but found that woman, Bushra Noah, had suffered indirect discrimination and awarded her the settlement for "injury to feelings".

Dang! Must've really hurt! Like, lots!

85 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:48:20pm

re: #68 swamprat

joke ding, Charles.
Don't shoot!

Okay- you got me.

86 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:51:15pm

Vilnai to Sderot: Jerusalem suffered too

The last quote in the article really,REALLY troubles me :

Israel has two choices, said Vilnai: "Use of military force, at the end of which – there will be some sort of ceasefire. Or a ceasefire."

87 McJenny50  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:52:07pm

I am probably going to really embarrass myself here and come across as stupid or naive but, hey, at least no one knows who I am! I have been reading the evolution vs ID threads and trying to determine just where I fit in. There have been so many terms and opinions thrown around that I am having a hard time sorting it all out. Can anyone out there give me a basic Readers' Digest type summary of exactly what the evolutionist believes and then what an IDer believes? Just sort of boil it down to the facts. Thanks

88 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:53:06pm

re: #63 Noam Sayin'


Aha! This jerks my memory!
Radial Engine Drive

The piston shafts all connect to a common offset on the drivshaft.

89 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:56:02pm

re: #87 McJenny50

I think if you really want to understand the real nature of the debate you should read the Wedge Strategy. This isn't about God or no God as some would make you think it's about. This is about an agenda to force religion into science classes.

90 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:56:10pm

re: #87 McJenny50

Can anyone out there give me a basic Readers' Digest type summary of exactly what the evolutionist believes and then what an IDer believes? Just sort of boil it down to the facts. Thanks

Good luck with that.

91 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:57:57pm

re: #90 Mich-again

Buahahaha!

92 solomonpanting  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 8:59:35pm

Here's hoping there's not a mad rush to follow the leader over a cliff. You'll never think of Dvorak's Savonic Dance 7 the same again.

93 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:03:12pm

re: #80 Mich-again Huh?
Sorry - hadda go do something there!

94 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:03:21pm

Hank Williams weighs in on the subject..

A distant uncle passed away and left me quite a batch
And I was livin'g high until that fatal day
A lawyer proved I wasn't born
I was only hatched.

95 desertdweller  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:04:45pm

Had this song playing in my car today while driving around town with the little'uns. Glad to see a video!

96 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:04:48pm

Tech Q:

I'm struggling with my new blog in ways I could not have imagined a month ago.

I still have 2,500 bookmarks. Despite trying for a few weeks, I have been unable to organize my bookmarks so that I can figure out which to delete. I cannot save the links that I find scattered throughout my bookmarks a second time with another name 'cause it pushes the numbers over the limit. (Am I making sense?)

Would it be a good idea to save them with a Word document (Vista) and then C/P them onto a new bookmark list in another account with my ISP?

Help?

97 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:07:02pm

re: #87 McJenny50
Huh - why should you escape all the fun and games?! LOL!
Yeah, you should follow Sharmuta's direction in #89.
And then see Ben Stein's "film" "Expelled".

98 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:08:00pm

re: #79 snowcrash

He has problems with the LDS.

Ya think?! :)

99 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:09:15pm

re: #96 MandyManners

I would.

I don't know anything about blog software, but the bookmarks should be stored somewhere on your sites directory.
Probably as a xml file.

You can find xml file editors online.
But it's safe to have a backup.

100 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:09:57pm

re: #96 MandyManners

I still have 2,500 bookmarks.

Thats a lot of bookmarks. I only have 3 or 4.

101 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:10:28pm

re: #84 Clemente

Londonistan Update (AFP) -

Headscarf rejection wins British woman 4,000 pounds


Dang! Must've really hurt! Like, lots!

Question: So can I sue Barack Obama for saying I am bitter and cling to my guns and religion?

Better Question: Can I get personal jurisdiction over him in England?

102 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:10:51pm
103 desertdweller  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:10:52pm

re: #62 Mich-again

Why is the law that I have to wear a seatbelt in my car when the guy on the motorcycle doesn't have to wear one.

?sarc?

Do you really want to stay attached to your bike while it's tumbling down the highway? (Ouch!)

OTOH, cars are designed with a safety compartment in mind, and you're better off staying in that compartment in a wreck. I recall being in one pre-airbag front end wreck where EVERY piece of sheet metal in the car, plus the brake and clutch pedals, were bent. I opened the door (adrenalin) and walked out. My ankles still pop when I wake up.

104 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:11:59pm

A 4,000 pound woman rejected a British headscarf?

105 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:13:01pm

Um, not to take any attention away from Mandy Manner's tech question, I have one of my own and hope someone out there can help me.
For some reason, my cursor gets stuck - freezes up and I have to crash dive my 'puter and when I go back on 'puter all seems ok.
Plus I'm getting all sorts of "Script Errors" in that pain-in-the-ass little yellow triangle at the lower left of the screen on LGF - though it usually goes away if I refresh LGF.

106 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:14:09pm

re: #104 Mich-again

A 4,000 pound woman rejected a British headscarf?

I know. Too bad they can't develop a weight loss headscarf...must have been a man inventing it.

107 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:14:09pm

re: #104 Mich-again
LOL!

108 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:15:12pm

And now we have a creationist in the previous thread who stalked off in a rage, saying he would never be back, hated me, etc., but came back with a sockpuppet to post more Discovery Institute propaganda.

Good thing I designed this site intelligently, so I can catch this kind of stuff.

109 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:16:44pm

re: #103 desertdweller

Do you really want to stay attached to your bike while it's tumbling down the highway? (Ouch!)

Nope. And I really don't want to wear a helmet in the car either.

110 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:16:57pm

In honour of the many fine long time lizards who have passed recently...
Bell Bottom Blues

It always breaks my heart. I've loved you all.
/Namaste, y'all

111 lummox  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:17:24pm

re: #108 Charles

And now we have a creationist in the previous thread who stalked off in a rage, saying he would never be back, hated me, etc., but came back with a sockpuppet to post more Discovery Institute propaganda.

Good think I designed this site intelligently, so I can catch this kind of stuff.

Oh c'mon Charles! Just a week ago you said the site was evolving. Make up yer mind.
//////

112 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:18:13pm

re: #87 McJenny50

I am probably going to really embarrass myself here and come across as stupid or naive but, hey, at least no one knows who I am! I have been reading the evolution vs ID threads and trying to determine just where I fit in. There have been so many terms and opinions thrown around that I am having a hard time sorting it all out. Can anyone out there give me a basic Readers' Digest type summary of exactly what the evolutionist believes and then what an IDer believes? Just sort of boil it down to the facts. Thanks

"Intelligent Design" is a man-made, non- scientific theory that is heavily promoted by the Discovery Institute. The name "Intelligent Design" is a marketing ploy to arouse the passion of people who believe that God is the intelligent designer who created the universe. The Intelligent Design Theory being promoted by the Discovery Institute is now being foisted upon our public school systems. The Discovery Institute would love to see their non- scientific theory be included in Science classrooms across America.

Evolutionists believe in evolution, or the process of change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms from one generation to the next. Evolution is based on the scientific method.

113 desertdweller  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:02pm

re: #109 Mich-again

Nope. And I really don't want to wear a helmet in the car either.

Hee hee! I only did that when the sanctioning body said I must. Kinda hard to drink while driving that way...

114 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:20:08pm

re: #10 winston06

agreed!

I have always believed that athletes and artists should stay away from political activism.

Poor people have been voting for Democrats for 50 years, and they're still poor. - Charles Barkley

115 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:21:15pm

re: #99 Electron Shuffler

I would.

I don't know anything about blog software, but the bookmarks should be stored somewhere on your sites directory.
Probably as a xml file.

You can find xml file editors online.
But it's safe to have a backup.

I'm talking about my bookmarks for my ISP thingy when I hop on here to go somewhere.

116 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:22:10pm

re: #100 Mich-again

Thats a lot of bookmarks. I only have 3 or 4.

Really? Just three or four? What do you do with sites you want to visit again?

117 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:12pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

hahaha - wow - people need to Get A Life.

118 K~Bob  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:34pm

Charles,

OT: I ska-reewed up a link posting. I assumed we could use the same tags we use here. At the bottom I added "[Emphasis added..." ,etc. I think the only harm is, it looks dumb.

I get how it works, now. I think. I just wanted to excerpt a few key paragraphs to stay within fair use. Also, certain text really needed emphasis. Any way to do this other than all caps? Just curious. Thanks for your time.

K~Bob

119 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:47pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Obama - Building a Religion

Fucking awesome!

120 desertdweller  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:48pm

re: #115 MandyManners

You mean 2500 browser bookmarks? Which browser? (If it's IE, I can't help -- haven't seen an IE browser in months.)

121 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:23:54pm

OT-

Will Al Gore win the "John F. Kennedy Award for Courage" for his endorsement today of the Messiah?

122 spidly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:25:48pm

re: #121 brainwizard73

OT-

Will Al Gore win the "John F. Kennedy Award for Courage" for his endorsement today of the Messiah?

How about the Vince Foster Award for courage

123 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:25:56pm

re: #116 MandyManners

Really? Just three or four? What do you do with sites you want to visit again?

I type the name in the search engine.

124 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:26:24pm

re: #108 Charles

And now we have a creationist in the previous thread who stalked off in a rage, saying he would never be back, hated me, etc., but came back with a sockpuppet to post more Discovery Institute propaganda.

Good thing I designed this site intelligently, so I can catch this kind of stuff.

Our government needs you.

125 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:26:54pm

re: #29 MandyManners

That's the engine.

Here is the sound of a radial engine starting up:
P-47 radial engine - Pratt & Whitney

(Startup of a Pratt & Whitney R-2800 in the P-47D Thunderbolt)


Aircraft Engine Historical Society Home Page

Goodnight all

126 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:26:59pm

re: #105 realwest

I have to think about this one a bit.
...
Sounds like something is soaking up all of your computers processor time
if your mouse is not moving.

The first thing I'd try is make sure that you have a up to date browser.
Try using another browser if it is available to you and see if the same thing happens.

Ctrl-Alt-Delete and rebooting your system is pretty severe.
If you can see what is running at the time and what is taking up all of your processor time it would be a big help.

The worst case fix I know of is trying to do a repair install off of your install disks.

Get other opinions.

127 infidel Alan  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:27:51pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.

re: #117 DistantThunder

hahaha - wow - people need to Get A Life.

just like the Paulistas busily stacking internet polls--same mentality

128 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:04pm

re: #116 MandyManners

Really? Just three or four? What do you do with sites you want to visit again?

Don't you just retype the site URL or google the name - easier than finding it in bookmarks.

129 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:30pm

realwest--please check your email? thx

130 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:50pm

re: #118 K~Bob

Charles,

OT: I ska-reewed up a link posting. I assumed we could use the same tags we use here. At the bottom I added "[Emphasis added..." ,etc. I think the only harm is, it looks dumb.

I get how it works, now. I think. I just wanted to excerpt a few key paragraphs to stay within fair use. Also, certain text really needed emphasis. Any way to do this other than all caps? Just curious. Thanks for your time.

K~Bob

Nope, no way to do that. I deliberately limited the spinoff links to unformatted text, to avoid some of the problems that crop up otherwise.

131 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:28:56pm

re: #87 McJenny50

I am probably going to really embarrass myself here and come across as stupid or naive but, hey, at least no one knows who I am! I have been reading the evolution vs ID threads and trying to determine just where I fit in. There have been so many terms and opinions thrown around that I am having a hard time sorting it all out. Can anyone out there give me a basic Readers' Digest type summary of exactly what the evolutionist believes and then what an IDer believes? Just sort of boil it down to the facts. Thanks

Sharmuta gave you a link at #89, that I suggest you read, and gman some additional information in #112, but to add my .02 - I see this as being whether or not we want our science classes watered down, and whether or not we want public school teachers teaching some version of religious belief that may or may not match your own.

Many of the comments you see use a lot of scientific jargon, but not being a scientist, I've found those to be confusing and not helpful to understanding the basic issue, which is, as Sharmuta said, " This is about an agenda to force religion into science classes."

132 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:29:34pm

re: #125 Ojoe

I saw your chuck wagon!
I hope you got a big steak and chunk of Texas toast.
With butter on it too.

G'nite!

133 spidly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:12pm

well Jewish review finally took note of Pacifica Forum. Tried to get congregants warned of those creeps last year but was ignored....

134 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:44pm

re: #132 wolfie

It was enchiladas tonight,

Good Night to you also.

135 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:51pm

Re: Cursor sticking: Make sure windows defender isn't running; that said - some of the LGF (Ajax?) scripts freeze FireFox, even when you try to exit the site.

136 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:30:54pm

re: #122 spidly

It isn't like Gore endorsed him 6 months ago and really made a difference. He waited until Hillary was out and then jumped in with his floaties on.

Still, why was this news? Who else was the looney toon going to endorse?

137 Metal Man  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:31:15pm

re: #115 MandyManners

If the bookmarks are stored in Safari, IE or Mozilla you can likely sort them.

138 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:32:34pm

re: #115 MandyManners

That's easier

Do a search on your hard drive for a file called bookmarks.
Thats the file that holds all of your bookmarks.

I'm looking to see where and what's on my hard drive.
Firefox and IE store them diffrent places. Under the same name tho
Hold on.

139 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:32:35pm

re: #108 Charles

And now we have a creationist in the previous thread who stalked off in a rage, saying he would never be back, hated me, etc., but came back with a sockpuppet to post more Discovery Institute propaganda.

Good thing I designed this site intelligently, so I can catch this kind of stuff.

Oh, goodness.

I'm a Christian who believes that God created the heavens and the Earth, from the farthest quasar to the very guts of the fly that I smashed the other day in my kitchen.

No where in the Bible are we commanded to ignore science or to trash knowledge.

*sigh*

140 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:33:26pm

re: #135 slokat

Re: Cursor sticking: Make sure windows defender isn't running; that said - some of the LGF (Ajax?) scripts freeze FireFox, even when you try to exit the site.

Unfortunately, Firefox's Javascript engine has serious bugs. (Apparently even version 3.)

It's not the LGF scripts' fault, and there's nothing I can do on my side to fix it. There are memory leaks in Firefox that they can't seem to debug.

141 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:34:39pm

re: #140 Charles

Unfortunately, Firefox's Javascript engine has serious bugs. (Apparently even version 3.)

It's not the LGF scripts' fault, and there's nothing I can do on my side to fix it. There are memory leaks in Firefox that they can't seem to debug.

Is that still going on in version 3? The damn memory leaks drive me nuts, though for some reason they aren't nailing me as bad since I started with my new laptop. Might be the 2gb of memory.

142 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:00pm

re: #120 desertdweller

You mean 2500 browser bookmarks? Which browser? (If it's IE, I can't help -- haven't seen an IE browser in months.)

A.O.L.

143 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:10pm

re: #126 Electron Shuffler Thanks but I'm running Windows XP and Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't shut down computer. I litterally have to crash dive it.
I'm using a Maxthon Browser (which Charles has told me is just a shell over IE) and I do have IE-7, but hate using it.
I've also turned off the auto downloads from MS cause they never tell you wth they are downloading and I've heard some horror stories about Security or Special Pac 3 from MS - but I only turned off the auto updates last week; this has been going on, with more and more frequency in the last couple of days.
And I have Norton Internet Security and Anti-viruse (which for some reason doesn't like my having turned off MS Auto updates) and Spyware doctor and I've clean out my cache, dumped cookie and etc.
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

144 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:16pm

Intelligent Design or Barack Obama's America?

Parents Fear Accompanying Students on Trips After Accidental Death Award

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

145 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:35:32pm

Everyone loves the Obama "Building a Religion" video. Hard to believe that came out in 2001 before anyone knew the O.

146 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:21pm

re: #123 Mich-again

I type the name in the search engine.

Many of my links do not have a simple URL.

147 spidly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:25pm

re: #136 brainwizard73

It isn't like Gore endorsed him 6 months ago and really made a difference. He waited until Hillary was out and then jumped in with his floaties on.

Still, why was this news? Who else was the looney toon going to endorse?

Ted Kennedy award for courage then. Maybe he'll forward michael 'hockey stick' mann as a VP candidate. Michael Bellesiles perhaps.

148 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:45pm

re: #141 Mars Needs Neocons

Is that still going on in version 3? The damn memory leaks drive me nuts, though for some reason they aren't nailing me as bad since I started with my new laptop. Might be the 2gb of memory.

The beta Version 3 is better and the Javascript engine is much faster, but it still has memory leak bugs.

149 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:46pm

re: #140 Charles

Unfortunately, Firefox's Javascript engine has serious bugs. (Apparently even version 3.)

It's not the LGF scripts' fault, and there's nothing I can do on my side to fix it. There are memory leaks in Firefox that they can't seem to debug.

Sorry- was stating observed cause and effect.
Wasn't trying to place fault.
I hadn't even entertained a theory....

/

150 Magalaga Ding Dong  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:48pm

Charles:

I hope you're getting something out of ruffling the feathers of the Lizard army over & over again about the exact same subject. I mean, I would think that you would realize by now that opinions on this are seldom, if ever, changed ~ especially on a blog page. You seem quite passionate about this issue, more so than on any other subject. What I think about all of this is as irrelevant as anyone else's fiery opinions on this subject. What I find most interesting is how worked up YOU get about it.

You okay?

151 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:36:48pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Many of my links do not have a simple URL.

say no more!

152 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:09pm

re: #123 Mich-again

I type the name in the search engine.

Oh, I was not trashing/questioning/whatever.

I just made a comment.

153 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:18pm

re: #139 MandyManners

*double sigh*

On a more perky note.......and speaking of flies, one of the kids gave Mr Wolf a fly swatter that says "Hasta la vista, baby!" or "Die sucker!" when you smack ia little critter.

Oh, that is fun, fun, fun!

154 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:37:34pm

re: #129 mikeymom Hey mikeymom - I have checked e-mail and nothing from you!

155 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:38:17pm

re: #125 Ojoe

That's the engine.

Here is the sound of a radial engine starting up:
P-47 radial engine - Pratt & Whitney

(Startup of a Pratt & Whitney R-2800 in the P-47D Thunderbolt)


Aircraft Engine Historical Society Home Page

Goodnight all

Sweet and SILENT dreams!

156 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:38:27pm

re: #153 wolfie

Its funner to clap right above the fly. Ha. They always fly right into the clap. Blam!

157 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:38:34pm

re: #143 realwest

sounds like too many levels of protection?

xp firewall & norton coexist as well as the copts & the shias do in egypt...

/

158 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:38:52pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

I hate you! I really doo!

159 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:39:00pm

re: #150 Magalaga Ding Dong

Charles:

I hope you're getting something out of ruffling the feathers of the Lizard army over & over again about the exact same subject. I mean, I would think that you would realize by now that opinions on this are seldom, if ever, changed ~ especially on a blog page. You seem quite passionate about this issue, more so than on any other subject. What I think about all of this is as irrelevant as anyone else's fiery opinions on this subject. What I find most interesting is how worked up YOU get about it.

You okay?

More so than any other subject? Seven years of posting about radical Islam, and taking an enormous amount of abuse from all sides for it, but you think I'm most upset about the ID issue?

Yes, I'm fine. Thanks for your concern.

160 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:06pm

re: #135 slokat Um, windows "defender"? I have my Windows Firewall cut off if that's what you're referring to?

161 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:20pm

re: #128 DistantThunder

Don't you just retype the site URL or google the name - easier than finding it in bookmarks.

No. I've been on a long hunt for truth, and I've saved a lot of stuff. Also, I'm dealing with a lot of legal-research stuff for my job search.

162 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:40:37pm

re: #148 Charles

The beta Version 3 is better and the Javascript engine is much faster, but it still has memory leak bugs.

I once sent them a thing about memory leaks back before v 2. The reply I got was perfect.

"What memory leaks? ;) "

163 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:40pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Its funner to clap right above the fly. Ha. They always fly right into the clap. Blam!

Please don't tell me things like that.
I'll believe it. I always do.
I know better, but I always do.
And then I'll try it and my children will laugh at me.


omigod im going to try to clap a fly now

164 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:41:41pm

re: #162 Mars Needs Neocons

I once sent them a thing about memory leaks back before v 2. The reply I got was perfect.

"What memory leaks? ;) "

I don't know, I forgot

165 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:18pm

re: #150 Magalaga Ding Dong

Charles:

I hope you're getting something out of ruffling the feathers of the Lizard army over & over again about the exact same subject. I mean, I would think that you would realize by now that opinions on this are seldom, if ever, changed ~ especially on a blog page. You seem quite passionate about this issue, more so than on any other subject. What I think about all of this is as irrelevant as anyone else's fiery opinions on this subject. What I find most interesting is how worked up YOU get about it.

You okay?

Shakeups get rid of deadwood. (and unfortunately some good people that just can't let go) Also brings certain troll types out of the woodwork.

166 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:25pm

re: #150 Magalaga Ding Dong

Charles:

I hope you're getting something out of ruffling the feathers of the Lizard army over & over again about the exact same subject. I mean, I would think that you would realize by now that opinions on this are seldom, if ever, changed ~ especially on a blog page. You seem quite passionate about this issue, more so than on any other subject. What I think about all of this is as irrelevant as anyone else's fiery opinions on this subject. What I find most interesting is how worked up YOU get about it.

You okay?

Where the heck have you been all these years Magalaga?
151 comments in 3 years.
The ultimate lurker.

167 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:30pm

re: #138 Electron Shuffler

That's easier

Do a search on your hard drive for a file called bookmarks.
Thats the file that holds all of your bookmarks.

I'm looking to see where and what's on my hard drive.
Firefox and IE store them diffrent places. Under the same name tho
Hold on.

I have IE exclusively and I don't know how to search my hard-drive.

I'm a punk. I know it. I admit it. I embrace it.

168 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:53pm

re: #164 Desert Dog

I don't know, I forgot

LOL

It must have gone down the Kos Memory Hole. tm

169 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:42:58pm

re: #163 wolfie

Dude. Its 100% effective.

170 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:43:31pm

re: #151 Mich-again

say no more!

Say more on your "say no more" response.

171 thoughtcrime  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:43:34pm

I just stumbled across this.

Anyone familiar with this outfit?

172 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:43:53pm

re: #154 realwest

will try again- its a link to a speech at heritage foundation-hope you get it

173 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:44:09pm

re: #168 Mars Needs Neocons

LOL

It must have gone down the Kos Memory Hole. tm

I wish I could forget him.....

174 desertdweller  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:44:37pm

re: #142 MandyManners

A.O.L.

Oh. Never mind. I lead a sheltered life. Even after working with UN*X for over 30 years, I've only seen AOL over someone else's shoulder.

175 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:45:03pm

re: #135 slokat

Re: Cursor sticking: Make sure windows defender isn't running; that said - some of the LGF (Ajax?) scripts freeze FireFox, even when you try to exit the site.

I think Windows Defender runs some sort of "scanning process" from time to time. It'll eat up huge amounts of cpu and leave little for anything else.

I've tried to stop the scan in Task Manager, but I get a "function not allowed" message when I try.

176 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Say, Michigan. Mr Wolf and my daughter looked at Hope and Hillsdale last week on a college search trip. She liked both of them much better than Notre Dame, which was the main reason they ventured so far.
Any local reputation I should know about?

177 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:46:10pm

re: #172 mikeymom OK, a speech at the Heritage Foundation? I'll bet money that it's LONG! LOL!
Who gave the speech?!

178 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:46:59pm

re: #171 thoughtcrime

I just stumbled across this.

Anyone familiar with this outfit?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Kinda a Primus vibe without the Claypool bass rifts

179 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:47:14pm

re: #153 wolfie

*double sigh*

On a more perky note.......and speaking of flies, one of the kids gave Mr Wolf a fly swatter that says "Hasta la vista, baby!" or "Die sucker!" when you smack ia little critter.

Oh, that is fun, fun, fun!

Don't get me going on that!

The hamster has learned to go back to sleep when I have him on my chest--a quiet, soft spot for him.

180 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:29pm

re: #175 stevieray Hey stevieray! What the heck is Windows Defender? I mean, what does it do (supposedly)? Can't be what MS jokingly refers to as the Windows Firewall cause I've been able to disable it on this and all my prior versions of Windows.

181 Metal Man  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:48:45pm

re: #142 MandyManners
Take a look at this
There appear to be other pay for programs also if you search "aol bookmarks sort"

182 Magalaga Ding Dong  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:14pm

re: #166 gman

Where the heck have you been all these years Magalaga?
151 comments in 3 years.
The ultimate lurker.

Huh?

Wow, did I come in at the wrong time. I didn't mean to upset anyone, I was just asking a simple question. I probably should have e-mailed Charles directly. No need for hostility or accusations. I don't believe I'm either a troll or a lurker. And I don't come to this site just to find people who agree with me all the time.

Um, goodnight?

183 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:42pm

re: #143 realwest

Sorry, realwest that's the extent of my talents for troubleshooting systems.

--
Mandy

Your bookmarks should be here: if you are using XP and Firefox
C:Documents and Settingsyour_usernameApplication DataMozillaFirefoxProfiles(gobblygook).default Bookmarks.html

Copy the file.
There should be a way to import / export the data.
If you mess up, you can resave the file you copied over the one in the directory.

I don't know about IE.

184 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:49:58pm

re: #177 realwest

briggette gabrielle-sp?- a lebonese christian-if this has been widely publicized, forgive me for being late to the party-lol

185 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:30pm

re: #182 Magalaga Ding Dong

Magalaga, pinoy ka?

186 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:50:38pm

re: #160 realwest

no, defender is supposed to examine incoming scripts, etc. It usually acts like a glutton and starts checking every process and file in your computer seemingly simultaneously.

187 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:51:19pm

re: #157 slokat LOL! So why does my Norton Anti-virus keep showing me this stupid red "X" and when I check it out it's because I've cut off the automatic updates (the ones they do when you turn off your computer).

188 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:51:47pm

re: #167 MandyManners

Me Either.

IE's bookmarks are somewhere, I'll find them eventually.

189 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:51:56pm

I LOVED that Obama video. Wow. It would be another Clinton-like worship fest for 4-8 years.

190 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:01pm

re: #182 Magalaga Ding Dong

Huh?

Wow, did I come in at the wrong time. I didn't mean to upset anyone, I was just asking a simple question. I probably should have e-mailed Charles directly. No need for hostility or accusations. I don't believe I'm either a troll or a lurker. And I don't come to this site just to find people who agree with me all the time.

Um, goodnight?

Don't worry, lurker isn't an insult. I think he was just letting you know it would be cool to hear from you. Relax.

191 capital L  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:24pm

Being called a lurker isn't an insult, Magalaga.

Indeed, in some corners of the net, they advise that you LURK MOAR...

192 Desert Dog  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:28pm

re: #180 realwest

Hey stevieray! What the heck is Windows Defender? I mean, what does it do (supposedly)? Can't be what MS jokingly refers to as the Windows Firewall cause I've been able to disable it on this and all my prior versions of Windows.

It's a group of goons hired by Bill Gates to beat the crap out of anyone that wants to use an operating system other than Vista.....or, it's a preloaded antispam nuisance on Vista....or both?

193 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:37pm

re: #184 mikeymom

briggette gabrielle-sp?- a lebonese christian-if this has been widely publicized, forgive me for being late to the party-lol

Oh, she is very interesting! And another very brave woman to speak out against jihadism.

194 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:37pm

re: #176 wolfie

I don't know much more than they are probably like all the other small towns in the State. Hillsdale must be a heady place. Victor Davis Hanson was(?) a prof there in Military History. That might be worth the price of admission right there. Sitting in that classroom for a semester.

195 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:52:46pm

re: #186 slokat Huh, then I wonder why stevieray couldn't disable it (as I'm about to try to do)?

196 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:28pm

Anyone who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool. Anyone you takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool. - BY

197 K~Bob  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:53:46pm

re: #140 Charles (Also thx 4 reply to #130)

Unfortunately, Firefox's Javascript engine has serious bugs. (Apparently even version 3.)

It's not the LGF scripts' fault, and there's nothing I can do on my side to fix it. There are memory leaks in Firefox that they can't seem to debug.

This explains why I am often reduced to killing Firefox about once per day, after leaving sites that use a lot of scripts running. Google is a culprit, too, if I forget to use NoScript to kill it's scripts. But dang, LGF is such a handy tool for the RSS stuff on the sidebar and for the Links, that I forget to shut it off once in a while!

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

198 Archimedes  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:53pm

re: #14 Ojoe

Radial chopper

That is sweet!

How about a Street Legal Jet Powered Beetle:
[Link: ronpatrickstuff.com...]

199 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:54:56pm

re: #170 MandyManners

Say more on your "say no more" response.

The longer the directions to get there the more obscure the place is.

200 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:00pm

re: #175 stevieray

I think Windows Defender runs some sort of "scanning process" from time to time. It'll eat up huge amounts of cpu and leave little for anything else.

I've tried to stop the scan in Task Manager, but I get a "function not allowed" message when I try.

I can't remember but the program in "task manager - processes" is called something like MSMAPger.exe You actually have to stop it three times, before it will go away ('till next reboot).

201 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:55:29pm

re: #180 realwest

Hey stevieray! What the heck is Windows Defender? I mean, what does it do (supposedly)? Can't be what MS jokingly refers to as the Windows Firewall cause I've been able to disable it on this and all my prior versions of Windows.

Defender is an anti-spyware program that sort of embeds itself into your operating system instead of sitting on the side like a regular anti-spyware program like spybot. I don't think it is tied into your firewall, so shutting that down won't affect Defender.

202 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:00pm

re: #182 Magalaga Ding Dong "And I don't come to this site just to find people who agree with me all the time."
Where have I heard that phrase or something close to it before? Lemme think - Discarded Lies? GCP?
LGFWatch? One of them, I think.

203 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:56:18pm

re: #193 wolfie

wolfie--this is the first i have heard of her--wow! im all fired up now-lol--my sis sent it to me--shes not usually up on this stuff-suggessted i have a glass of wine while i watched--will pass it along

204 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:13pm

re: #197 K~Bob

This explains why I am often reduced to killing Firefox about once per day, after leaving sites that use a lot of scripts running. Google is a culprit, too, if I forget to use NoScript to kill it's scripts. But dang, LGF is such a handy tool for the RSS stuff on the sidebar and for the Links, that I forget to shut it off once in a while!

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

You can alleviate the problem somewhat by adding more RAM to your computer - that way there's more memory to leak and things don't get screwed up so fast.

Just for the record, the latest versions of Safari are the most robust, bug-free browsers I've ever used. Not perfect, but I've had Safari running for weeks without crashing or hanging up.

Right now I have an LGF Spy window open -- and it's been running without any problems for 5+ days without stopping.

205 Render  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:44pm

Welp...

It would appear as though Ian Jobling has missed his self-imposed deadline for proving that he is not what he himself says he is. Instead he's settled for whining about his penis size in a descriptively short post.

Larry Auster on the other hand continues to vomit forth voluminous amounts of verbiage intended to prove that he is, in fact, actually what he is.

Meanwhile the belatedly banned Q is reduced to claiming that all Lizards are "kids" even as he finds himself, a Ron Paul supporter, reduced to defending Israel's right to exist on a blog that is just two degrees of separation away from David Duke and Don Black.

UNDER
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206 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:54pm

re: #174 desertdweller

I work with eunichs.

207 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:58:54pm

re: #187 realwest

LOL! So why does my Norton Anti-virus keep showing me this stupid red "X" and when I check it out it's because I've cut off the automatic updates (the ones they do when you turn off your computer).

Not sure - I used to run Norton full time, but with XP; I only turn it on each Saturday morning for a scan, then turn it back off. The firewall in XP is quite good & is as jealous as a stay-at-home wife, of other security systems.

208 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:59:13pm

re: #200 slokat

I can't remember but the program in "task manager - processes" is called something like MSMAPger.exe You actually have to stop it three times, before it will go away ('till next reboot).

I cursed it three times, but that didn't help. I'll try it your way next time. And you are right... it'll suddenly go nuts and push itself to the top of the food chain and eat everybody else's lunch.

209 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 9:59:53pm

re: #204 Charles

You can alleviate the problem somewhat by adding more RAM to your computer - that way there's more memory to leak and things don't get screwed up so fast.

Just for the record, the latest versions of Safari are the most robust, bug-free browsers I've ever used. Not perfect, but I've had Safari running for weeks without crashing or hanging up.

Right now I have an LGF Spy window open -- and it's been running without any problems for 5+ days without stopping.

LGF is pretty miraculous.

210 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:01pm

re: #167 MandyManners

Backup IE Favorites

It still does not say where it is exactly.

Hope this helps.
Backups are your friends.
And I get paid to do this stuff with Mac's!

211 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:43pm

re: #208 stevieray

I cursed it three times, but that didn't help. I'll try it your way next time. And you are right... it'll suddenly go nuts and push itself to the top of the food chain and eat everybody else's lunch.

You need an exorcism for your computor. It involves a picture of bill gates and a match.

212 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:00:47pm

FireFox 3 should officially be released in perhaps an hour or two:

Mozilla Unveils Firefox 3.0 Tuesday

213 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:08pm

That sockpuppet just sent hate mail, by the way.

214 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:50pm

re: #203 mikeymom

Great! I'll be looking for it!
I saw her on TV about a year ago talking about her experiences in Lebanon.
IIRC, when she was a little girl, Lebanon was a majority Christian nation. She lived through the jihad that drove so many Christians out and let militants take over.

215 spidly  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:02:58pm

re: #211 DistantThunder

You need an exorcism for your computor. It involves a picture of bill gates and a match.

does the inner apple emerge when the demon is driven out?

216 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:03pm

re: #212 NomadOfNorad

FireFox 3 should officially be released in perhaps an hour or two:

Mozilla Unveils Firefox 3.0 Tuesday

... and I switched to the 3.0 beta on Saturday! Shoulda waited...

217 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:22pm

re: #211 DistantThunder

aand some very expensive bottled water sprinkled all over the monitor

218 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:25pm

re: #213 Charles

That sockpuppet just sent hate mail, by the way.

The midget kicking the lizard king in the shins - no offense to midgets.

219 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:03:53pm

re: #212 NomadOfNorad

Oh, wait, "1pm EST Tuesday"?!?!

(Posted the link before I actually sat down and read the article... hehe... that'll larn me! :-D )

220 Metal Man  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:32pm

re: #213 Charles

Isn't it usually meltdown mail in cases like these?

221 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:04:33pm

re: #214 wolfie

Great! I'll be looking for it!
I saw her on TV about a year ago talking about her experiences in Lebanon.
IIRC, when she was a little girl, Lebanon was a majority Christian nation. She lived through the jihad that drove so many Christians out and let militants take over.

Ethnic cleansing by supremacists.

222 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:05:13pm

re: #216 stevieray

... and I switched to the 3.0 beta on Saturday! Shoulda waited...

What, was switching to the beta a case of flying through hoops?

223 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:05:18pm

re: #214 wolfie

actually, i think it has been out there before--just catching up

224 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:06:04pm

Oh good grief. I just spilled some wine on the subcontinent of India.

225 capital L  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:06:25pm

I'm leery of FireFox 3, as 2 is just humming along for me right now. I've got my preferred Netscape looking skin, the plugins I like, the proper tab behaviors, the bookmarklets I can never seem to easily find again, my favorites all tricked out and foldered in the bookmarks toolbar, the rest of the toolbars crammed up and condensed, 43 open tabs...

I don't really want to mess with with success...

226 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:02pm

re: #165 Mars Needs Neocons Um, with all due respect, "Shakeups get rid of deadwood. (and unfortunately some good people that just can't let go" is an unfortunate expression I'm afraid. Religion is something that some people take very seriously. I take my relationship with God and Jesus Christ very seriously, but for me it's an intensely personal realationship, which is why the ID threads don't bother me. Some very good people have left LGF - or rather don't bother posting here anymore, because of percieved "insults" to religion and to a belief in God, which is what they percieve the ID threads to be because there are some idjits who do take the ID threads as a place to attack religious beliefs (even though Charles has said - many times - that he isn't attacking a belief in God when he's attacking Intelligent Design or Creationists) . Some subjects are just too "touchy" for a lot of "good people" like abortion is too "touchy".

227 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:06pm

re: #224 wolfie

a wine tsunami--kewl!

228 Electron Shuffler  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:07:27pm

I usually threaten my Dell box here at home with a wrench and a cup of salt water.

That and a good thwack on the side!

Bedtime.

229 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:08:02pm

re: #221 DistantThunder

Ethnic cleansing by supremacists.

That sounds about right.
Have you ever seen her? She is as beautiful as she is brave.

230 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:08:36pm

Richard Wrangham has a theory that cooking, i.e., the control of fire increased brain mass by 100% in the transition from Homo Habilis to Homo Erectus. His contrarians say that the transition was due to the choice of caloric game content to marrow and brain, as opposed to pure muscle. Both could be true, of course. And there is evidence for both. I mean chewing predators like jackals, etc., are given to the same caloric sources. Not so many jackals cook though.( Chef Hyena, anyone?) Cooking fires on the other hand can only be traced 500,000 years. Erectus is a bit older, by a M. And archeology becomes very iffy beyond 50K or so because of geology.
I have nothing more to say on this.

231 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:09:21pm

re: #227 mikeymom

a wine tsunami--kewl!

That's it!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

232 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:09:38pm

re: #172 mikeymom
Got it - along with the note from someone saying it's long! LOL!
I'll try to watch it over the next couple of days, thanks for sending it!

233 mikeymom  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:09:49pm

re: #226 realwest

then why does it keep coming up? has a thread EVER changed anyones beliefs? "oh yeah--thats a point--i now have changed my mind" ?

234 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:10:02pm

Another heads-up -- I got email from Parachat (makers of the Lizard Lounge chat program I'm paying for) that there are going to be some outages this week, so be aware.

I'm thinking of shutting down the lounge, to be honest. It seems to have become a hang-out for disgruntled lizards who hate my stance on ID.

235 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:10:19pm

re: #226 realwest

Um, with all due respect, "Shakeups get rid of deadwood. (and unfortunately some good people that just can't let go" is an unfortunate expression I'm afraid. Religion is something that some people take very seriously. I take my relationship with God and Jesus Christ very seriously, but for me it's an intensely personal realationship, which is why the ID threads don't bother me. Some very good people have left LGF - or rather don't bother posting here anymore, because of percieved "insults" to religion and to a belief in God, which is what they percieve the ID threads to be because there are some idjits who do take the ID threads as a place to attack religious beliefs (even though Charles has said - many times - that he isn't attacking a belief in God when he's attacking Intelligent Design or Creationists) . Some subjects are just too "touchy" for a lot of "good people" like abortion is too "touchy".

Don't misunderstand. When I say "can't let go" I'm not talking about their beliefs. I'm talking about taking the argument to a personal insulting level (especially to the point of insulting our host.) Not smart moves. As for deadwood, have you ever noticed how many people that hardly ever post show up on ID threads to stir things up. I suspect many are trolls that just salivate at the opportunity to create more havok.

236 thoughtcrime  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:12:16pm

re: #234 Charles


I'm thinking of shutting down the lounge, to be honest. It seems to have become a hang-out for disgruntled lizards who hate my stance on ID.

If you wait, it will just be more painful 6 months from now.

I learned that after watching a manager let someone go 6 months after it should have happened......

237 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:12:30pm

re: #234 Charles

OH! OH NO! OMG! *grabs Valium

238 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:15:29pm

There were some disgruntled lizard-trolls in the lounge, but overall it was a fun place to be

239 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:16:34pm

re: #238 trigger girlie

There were some disgruntled lizard-trolls in the lounge, but overall it was a fun place to be

Well, you know, it's just not feeling real good to me to be paying for something like that, and have people using it to trash me.

240 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:16:34pm

re: #234 Charles

Another heads-up -- I got email from Parachat (makers of the Lizard Lounge chat program I'm paying for) that there are going to be some outages this week, so be aware.

I'm thinking of shutting down the lounge, to be honest. It seems to have become a hang-out for disgruntled lizards who hate my stance on ID.

They've taken to hanging out there just now, for and since the duration of the ID discussion? Or is this something that's been going on for awhile?

I don't really care so much if you shut down the Lounge for the time being, I don't go there that often anyway... :D

241 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:17:06pm

re: #222 NomadOfNorad

What, was switching to the beta a case of flying through hoops?

It actually went smooth, only took a few minutes. Most of my settings automatically transferred over... cookie allow/deny lists, passwords, bookmarks, add-ons, etc. The only things that didn't was my color theme [not compatible with 3.0 yet], and the Shazou add-on [same reason].

So far, I've only run into one bug, and its a minor one.

The pages load faster than 2.0, the memory usage is lower, and I'm getting used to the new symbols in the toolbar. So far I like the 3.

242 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:17:59pm

re: #182 Magalaga Ding Dong

I hope you're getting something out of ruffling the feathers of the Lizard army over & over again about the exact same subject. I mean, I would think that you would realize by now that opinions on this are seldom, if ever, changed ~ especially on a blog page. You seem quite passionate about this issue, more so than on any other subject. What I think about all of this is as irrelevant as anyone else's fiery opinions on this subject. What I find most interesting is how worked up YOU get about it.

You okay?

Sorry, but your compassion somehow got muddled in the message.

243 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:18:12pm

re: #239 Charles

Well, you know, it's just not feeling real good to me to be paying for something like that, and have people using it to trash me.

Hmmmmm... are there other chatroom programs that offer you more control of that sort of thing?

244 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:18:33pm

re: #234 Charles

Never been there.

245 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:38pm

re: #241 stevieray

It actually went smooth, only took a few minutes. Most of my settings automatically transferred over... cookie allow/deny lists, passwords, bookmarks, add-ons, etc. The only things that didn't was my color theme [not compatible with 3.0 yet], and the Shazou add-on [same reason].

So far, I've only run into one bug, and its a minor one.

The pages load faster than 2.0, the memory usage is lower, and I'm getting used to the new symbols in the toolbar. So far I like the 3.

I've been looking forward to 3 myself, for similar reasons: I hear it's supposed to load faster, take up less ram, and have fewer bugs.

246 Macker  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:19:55pm

re: #198 Archimedes

Why?

/LOL

247 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:20:39pm

re: #210 Electron Shuffler

Backup IE Favorites

It still does not say where it is exactly.

Hope this helps.
Backups are your friends.
And I get paid to do this stuff with Mac's!

IE favorites are located in C:Documents and Settings[USER NAME]Favorites

[user name] is, of course, the user name you created when first setting up Windows. Above example is Windows XP (or Vista), and you may have to be viewing hidden/system folders as well to see 'em.

248 Syrah  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:21:13pm
249 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:21:17pm

re: #233 mikeymom I think it keeps coming up as a thread because Charles feels that some of us just don't understand the problems of teaching ID in schools as science as a problem.
And yes, some threads have changed some minds - look at all the great work Charles has done on the Euro-fascists and White Nationalists; while a lot of folks dug in their heels at the start (due, I suspect, to some feelings of loyalty to Pamela of Atlas Shrugs as well as some overall confusion about European politics) a LOT of folks out here came around to the no fascist in my foxhole point of view that Charles (and I) hold.

250 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:22:40pm

re: #239 Charles

I haven't been in there in a while, didn't realize they were doing that. Asshats...

251 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:23:36pm

re: #250 trigger girlie

Hi Trig. *

252 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:23:39pm

re: #239 Charles

Well, you know, it's just not feeling real good to me to be paying for something like that, and have people using it to trash me.

I don't think I've ever seen someone in the lounge trashing you, if I had I would have spoke up. However, I'm not in there allot, but do visit occasionally.

253 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:25:32pm

re: #235 Mars Needs Neocons Oh yeah, the ID threads do reveal the folks who have been lurkers or sockpuppets, just as did the threads on the Neo-Nazi's which Charles put up.
What I meant was that some of the comments in Charles' threads were made in a way which I could understand other LGFer's taking umbrage at - to put it mildly, and as an attack on their religious beliefs, especially if they are creationists.

254 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:25:33pm

re: #244 stevieray

Never been there.

I've been there occasionally, but truthfully, the chatroom doesn't work as smoothly as my IRC client on the other machine (I have this Windoze PC, with its own monitor, sitting right next to an old Commodore Amiga 1200, also with its own monitor), so I don't tend to go there that often. I guess that's because the Lizard Lounge is a java-based thing, running from inside the browser, so of course it's going to be a mite clunkier to work with than chatting on a dedicated, compiled binary.

Of course, IRC and this chatroom are like apples and oranges, but...

255 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:25:55pm

re: #251 pat

Hey Pat!

256 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:00pm

re: #239 Charles

Well, you know, it's just not feeling real good to me to be paying for something like that, and have people using it to trash me.

Now Charles, I am not sure I would put up with that much. This is your blog, and you run it fairly. I will review, but most of the regulars seem OK. I have been busy elsewhere, but am willing to check out to make sure it is not a back door.

257 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:12pm

re: #204 Charles

Right now I have an LGF Spy window open

Charles you really need to be careful with your EYES. Monitoring scrolling text is notoriously detrimental to ocular health.

258 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:16pm

re: #253 realwest

True

259 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:27:28pm

re: #255 trigger girlie

Hey Pat!

Hi cutie! How is work?

260 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:28:26pm

"intelligent design" : conservatives :: "global warming" : liberals

embarassing pseudoscience is embarrasing pseudoscience

261 K~Bob  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:28:56pm

re: #176 wolfie

Say, Michigan. Mr Wolf and my daughter looked at Hope and Hillsdale last week on a college search trip. She liked both of them much better than Notre Dame, which was the main reason they ventured so far.
Any local reputation I should know about?

Since Michigan--like the place I live--is also directly above the center of the Earth, I am qualified to comment on this question, wolfie. You can get a good idea about local stories related to Hillsdale College by doing a Google search with this: hillsdale site:mlive.com

Since the college is only about an hour away from Ann Arbor, Toledo, and Battle Creek (Jackson is closer, but less "busy") there are lots of things to do nearby. I don't know much about the town of Hillsdale, Michigan, but it's good Midwestern country. Make sure your daughter likes frigid, windy winters. Also it gets very cold there. Especially when Al Gore is nearby. And of course, in the winter, it is cold. Ann Arbor is also directly above the center of the Earth, but I find myself there more often than most other places, so that's why Hillsdale seems familiar.

Let's see, what else...Did I remember to warn you about the cold weather? Right now, it is exactly 57 degrees (f) here, directly above the center of the Earth.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

262 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:29:24pm

re: #259 pat

Its been stressful the past coupla days; got into an argument with a main boss (I can't ever keep my mouth shut and nod when someone's wrong AND treats everyone like shit). Now gotta be a good girl and sit quietly, grrrr

263 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:31:15pm

re: #239 Charles
Huh, I'd have thought that if you banned someone from LGF, that they would also be banned from the Lounge. I've only been in the Lounge once and discovered that - as fast as Ajax is - the lounge just goes to quickly for me to have an intelligent discussion with anyone.
If someone's trashing you in the Lounge, I'd regard that as if they were trashing you out here and ban them, as opposed to shutting the Lounge down.

264 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:32:36pm

re: #263 realwest

Huh, I'd have thought that if you banned someone from LGF, that they would also be banned from the Lounge. I've only been in the Lounge once and discovered that - as fast as Ajax is - the lounge just goes to quickly for me to have an intelligent discussion with anyone.
If someone's trashing you in the Lounge, I'd regard that as if they were trashing you out here and ban them, as opposed to shutting the Lounge down.

moderators in the lounge might work.

265 stevieray  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:32:55pm

Goodnight all. Too tired to think anymore.

266 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:33:03pm

re: #262 trigger girlie

Well, you know where to find me. And I have articles at DBKP that cry for your deconstruction attention. lol

267 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:34:07pm

re: #242 gman There was compassion in there?! Damn, I musta missed it.

268 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:34:43pm

To have the moderator feature of Parachat, I'd have to pay even more for it.

I haven't made a decision; I'm just mentioning it for now.

269 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:38:04pm

re: #268 Charles Pay more for it?!? I admit that I've only been in the Lounge once, but is it such a popular part of LGF that it would be worth paying even more for it (to have a moderator(s) in there, I mean)?
And I meant what I said: if folks trash you on your blog (which includes the Lounge) y'all outta throw them out on their ass. Period.

270 K~Bob  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:40:02pm

re: #212 NomadOfNorad

FireFox 3 should officially be released in perhaps an hour or two:

Mozilla Unveils Firefox 3.0 Tuesday

It actually happens at 10am PST. That means 1PM EST.

I think I'll take Charles' advice about Opera, since I also heard they are committed to being the most bug-free, standards-compliant browser. No leaks is good leaks!

{ Assume the usual memory leaks. I'm frozen. }

271 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:40:19pm

re: #267 realwest

There was compassion in there?! Damn, I musta missed it.

and Magalaga Ding Dong said it was "just asking a question"
You're right. There was a little bit more going on there.

272 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:42:17pm

I have noted that most of the ones that cause trouble in the lounge are roundly punished. Bebes Boobs, Trigger Girlie, Sharmuta, Anna, Ord, are very strong defenders of LGF and Charles. And there are others.

273 Charles  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:42:38pm

re: #269 realwest

I admit that I've only been in the Lounge once, but is it such a popular part of LGF that it would be worth paying even more for it (to have a moderator(s) in there, I mean)?

No, not really.

274 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:44:03pm

re: #269 realwest

I think a little community monitoring might do the trick..

275 abolitionist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:44:20pm

re: #105 realwest

About your cursor-freezing, try a new mouse, or another mouse.

About a year ago I had similar symptoms. Cursor would behave eratically and then eventually freeze after several minutes of operation, or sometimes it would just freeze without warning. Sometimes when this happened the keyboard would also be dead, sometimes not. It got progressively worse over the months. Never a bluescreen or any kind of error msg. The functionality would just die.

These problems went away completely when, eventually, I tried another mouse. I'm currently using a Logitec optical mouse (no ball) that supports either a USB connection or (with supplied adapter) a PS2 connection. Nowadays, you would be lucky to find one of those in a store. Most mouses today are designed for one kind of connection or the other, exclusively.

I believe my "problem" mouse was designed with an inferior type of timing element for its internal cpu. (Specifically, with a resonator instead of a crystal, to save a few pennies.) For bytewise serial links, the timing must be within a tolerance of a percent or so, or the data sent and received will be corrupted. The fact that keyboard lockup often coincided with the mouse freezing should have been enough of a clue. [Bits, bytes and such were my bread and butter.]

Enlightenment came when I read on the net about the "reset codes" and handshakes that modern OS's routinely send to the mouse (and to the keyboard) from time to time. It occured to me that if any one of those gets corrupted, it's game over. There would be no recovery short of hitting the big red switch --exactly as I'd been doing.

It is strange that marginal operation of a mouse can bring a Windows OS to a complete standstill, and yet there's next to zero information about that on the net, that I could find anyway.

276 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:44:24pm

Charles: perhaps people would subscribe (pay) to access the lounge? I'm with realwest; it moves too fast for me if there are lots of folks (like over 5) in there.

Also, when did you become "more passionate" about ID foolishness than about jihad, music, and bicycle riding? I don't get around much, so just curious.

277 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:45:16pm

re: #268 Charles

To have the moderator feature of Parachat, I'd have to pay even more for it.

I haven't made a decision; I'm just mentioning it for now.

I've only been in it twice. My brain doesn't work that fast. I have a feeling, though, that some of the lounge lizards are serious addicts that will have a hard time going cold turkey.

278 bebe's boobs destroy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:46:13pm

re: #273 Charles

Um, ok. i'm not in the lounge as much lately due to work and i am kinda dense, but i haven't seen any slagging of you charles. The most i ever saw was "why do id threads keep getting put up when there ends up being so much vitriol involved"

279 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:47:52pm

I am seriously dense right now...what are ID threads? ...*hides

280 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:48:56pm

re: #278 bebe's boobs destroy

BEBES!

281 HelloDare  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:49:50pm

re: #65 Charles

Creationists are now going through the previous thread and dinging every post they don't like.


Is there any way you could make a creationist's ding count as a plus? That would make their heads explode.

282 bebe's boobs destroy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:50:09pm

re: #280 trigger girlie

Trig!

283 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:51:26pm

Boobs, Trig! ........Hot Tub!

284 slokat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:51:31pm

Hhmmm, new meaning to going down the Creation v/s Evolution Road.

285 wolfie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:51:45pm

re: #261 K~Bob

Thanks K~Bob !(Since I'm returning here LATE, I hope you read that!)

286 meeshlr  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:53:32pm

re: #239 Charles

I wouldn't pay for that, either.

I usually enjoy the lounge when I've gone in there but I would say that there were more substantive discussions last year. Maybe just due to a change in membership?

I'm always amazed when other people want to tell the owner/author of a blog what they ought to be writing about. There seems to be this attitude that you should tailor what you say to the frequent readers of this blog. Wouldn't that fundamentally change the nature of LGF? LGF is honest and direct which I appreciate.

287 bebe's boobs destroy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:56:17pm

re: #283 pat

Only if you;re cooking dinner for us pat!

288 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:57:39pm

re: #274 Yankee Division Son Well, given what pat said about "community monitor" I'm not sure that's enough. But, as I said, if Charles finds somone dissing him, he ought to ban that person from LGF, including the lounge. Period. I sure don't see why, given Charles' answer to me at #273, any kind of monitor would be of much help (I gather that it's the service that charges for monitors, whether or not they are Lizards Charles' trusts - like the Monitor Lizards - or anyone else with similar authority).
I mean really, why the hell should Charles pay more money for a feature that he himself doesn't thnk is worth it?

Sudden thought just occured to me: we all know about the registered "lizards" out here who do nothing but ding down certain posts, or certain commenter's posts, or even entire threads - and they always have names with which I'm not familiar- I wonder if they hang out in the lounge and periodically come out to do their dirty deeds?
I wonder if AmateurAngler (a smart ass poster who was just banned by Charles on the next thread) used to hang in the Lounge?

289 gman  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:58:23pm

re: #283 pat

Boobs, Trig! ........Hot Tub!

Girls gone Wild? Wait a minute.... what website is this?

290 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:59:33pm

Oh, and as lame as "ID" is, and as intellectually thuggish as its proponents can be, I'd still rather have Bobby Jindal (exorcism and ID included) a heartbeat away from the Oval Office than have Obama anywhere near it. Jindal seems like a very competent guy, and seems to love this country. He doesn't appear to view the entire Department of Defense budget as a slush fund for "social and economic justice" programs.

Good night :-)

291 bebe's boobs destroy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 10:59:45pm

re: #288 realwest

No, this person is not a lounge regular. I;ve never heard the name before

292 K~Bob  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:01:08pm

re: #285 wolfie

Thanks K~Bob !(Since I'm returning here LATE, I hope you read that!)

Anytime!

{ Assume, etc. }

293 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:01:24pm

re: #283 pat

AND fudge fights! *good ole times

294 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:01:54pm

re: #287 bebe's boobs destroy

Only if you;re cooking dinner for us pat!

Prime Rib and fresh Broccoli tonite. lol. (ducks)

295 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:02:06pm

re: #275 abolitionist
Hey thanks abolitionist! But I've already tried that - in fact am using the same mouse you currently are using!
But mine came with a USB port and although I do have an adaptor from an old mouse, I can't get this one to work with the adaptor in a PS/2 Port, at all.
Maybe I should just try using a different USB port for the mouse - I gotta have about 7 or so USB ports I'm not using for anything!

296 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:02:21pm

re: #293 trigger girlie

AND fudge fights! *good ole times

Oooo. Then the licking.

297 bebe's boobs destroy  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:04:16pm

re: #294 pat

I swear, one day my computer is gonna short out from my drooling over your cooking.

298 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:04:38pm

re: #284 slokat

Hhmmm, new meaning to going down the Creation v/s Evolution Road.

An evolution museum? Um, pretty much every Natural History museum I've been to could be called an evolution museum. The one in Philadelphia is superb, as is the one by the Park in NYC. The one in Chicago wasn't as good IMHO, but Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry is awesome.

I like museums, but an "evolution museum" would probably turn out to be as cartoonish as the "creationist museum" that has the displays of cavemen hunting T. Rex or whatever.

299 trigger girlie  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:05:08pm

re: #297 bebe's boobs destroy

Pat doesn't cook anymore since he discovered sprats :)

Pat, I'm NOT commenting on your last comment :)

300 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:08:13pm

Oh one last comment before bed:

The Denver natural history museum has a fabulous entire wing devoted to the age of the planet and evolution. You basically walk through the eras and watch life change with the planet. Highly recommended!

/well, not if you are a creationist.... I guess?

301 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:11:57pm

Holy crap - the Jindal ID thread is still moving along, over 1547 comments!

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND about the ID threads - not that Charles sees a need to have them, but why the hell are they all sooooo long?
I mean, you state your thoughts, answer anyone who responds in a respectful manner to you, and MOVE ON! It's not as if the number of comments or the verbiage is gonna change ANYONE'S mind.
Although, I guess since the Creationists' belief system IS challenged by the idea of ID being bogus
(why can't it just be a matter of faith - ya know, you either believe in Creationism or you don't?) you have to expect them to defend their faith with passion. Creationism is not science, it's a religion and evolution is a science not a religion.
I don't get it at all.

302 abolitionist  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:12:27pm

re: #295 realwest

A USB-to-PS2 adapter is useful ONLY if the stuff in the mouse supports both kinds of protocols. Mine does. Most support only one protocol, and on such, an adapter won't help.

If you can, please try a different mouse.

303 pat  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:13:17pm

re: #299 trigger girlie

Thanks Trig for not commenting. lol.
Damn, ran out of gas here. One of the things that happens in the sticks. Changed bottles. You and Boobs have a good nite. And both stop worrying. You are both very smart and will do the right thing instinctively. Just be calm.

304 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:14:45pm

re: #302 abolitionist
Ah, you mean try a mouse that has a PS/2 connection. Hmmm - might be a good idea! Thanks!

305 Archimedes  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:16:29pm

re: #246 Macker

Why?

/LOL


Well, it's flat out fun! :) but the reason he did it is because he's a mechanical engineer and I'm sure he wanted to test out his engineering skillz!

We need people like that, Macker.

306 realwest  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:21:51pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep now - I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

307 Archimedes  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:32:04pm

re: #298 funky chicken

but Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry is awesome.

Best one I've ever been to!

308 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:41:58pm

re: #288 realwest

Hmmm... would it help if Charles set it up so only those that have posted to the threads enough can log into the Lizard Lounge?

309 Dainn  Mon, Jun 16, 2008 11:53:04pm

Funny song.

This made me dig out my Tom Lehrer CD collection and rip it to my Ipod. I've been humming "Masochism Tango" and "The Old Dope Peddler" ever since.

I miss listening to Dr. Demento live on the radio.

310 Mats  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 4:54:40am

hahaha

311 sparrowlake  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:01:44am

Great tune, beautiful pickin' and very funny - thanks Charles!

312 bellamags  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 4:09:50pm

LOL


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