Cease fire = time to rearm. Nothing more.

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

Optimist.

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

Charles, you are being very optimistic this morning.

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

I'm sure they've already tried it.

/Yes, I'm that cynical about Hamas.

6 hours is pretty optimistic Charles, i think rockets will be flying before that. We should start a pool.

No need to deploy the winged pig for this one.

They must be out of pipe and explosives

6 hours... a little optimistic, aren't we?

re: #7 ironbill

They must be out of pipe and explosives

I am sure Israel has agreed to resume shipping them the necessary parts?

Only six hours?

Heck, I give it less. Three. And even then, the ceasefire will not be considered broken until Israel returns fire.

At least the IDF is still keeping an eye on things even if the diplomats are engaging in backslapping and self-congratulations before it even takes effect.

You see the same thing over and over and over and you know how it will end.

Where is Shalit?

...and pigs are going to fly out of my butt singing "If I Had a Hammer."

I would think the over/under would be about 2 hours max.

end months of Palestinian assaults on Israeli border towns and bruising Israeli retaliation

726 months?

re: #5 AK oilfield worker

6 hours is pretty optimistic Charles, i think rockets will be flying before that. We should start a pool.

I vote zero seconds.

re: #1 Sharmuta

Cease fire = time to rearm. Nothing more.

Bingo.

Mookie Al-Sadr wanted a cease-fire too, because he was getting his ass kicked, no doubt Hamas is in the same situation.

The over/under in Sderot is 4 hours.

Does anybody inside the Israeli Government understand the concept of hudna?

re: #12 Alouette

Where is Shalit?

Not part of the deal.

re: #14 Fast Eddie

Beat me to it!

Looks like a fair deal to me. Hamas gets to rearm, prepare, and deepen their patron-client relationship with Iran's psychokillers. In return, Olmert & Co get to look like they're doing something, so their party can stay in power. Until tomorrow, when more Israeli citizens are killed in rocket attacks. To which they won't respond, in orde to "advance the peace process". Thus again making Israelis look like impotent fools, encouraging more such attacks.

This story has been told so many times, it's hard to believe the Israelis haven't heard it yet.

Definition of insanity: Continually repeating a failed event with the expectation of a different result

Nathan Bedford Forrest was right about one thing... during war:

Get 'em skeered and keep the skeer on 'em"

Nasralla is having a 2 day leadership seminar, then the top performers will "explode" within the company.

re: #20 lawhawk

And he wasn't released as a humanitarian gesture either. Because Hamas is still working to demand the release of hundreds of terrorists from Israeli jails.

Another cease fire? Geez...

These clowns are going to realize some day that these cease fires are not going to keep coming around... And boy, are they going to regret it!

re: #10 lawhawk

Only six hours?

Heck, I give it less. Three. And even then, the ceasefire will not be considered broken until Israel returns fire.

At least the IDF is still keeping an eye on things even if the diplomats are engaging in backslapping and self-congratulations before it even takes effect.

Yeah, just like their keeping an eye on Hizballah rearming?
[Link: www.debka.com...]

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

Just becuase I can get more for my bet, I will take the over. Eventually, one of these days, peace will break out...when it does I can laugh all the way to the cashier's window.

Hudna!Hudna!Hudna!Hudna!Hudna!

Not peace. Merely a cessation of fighting to rest and rearm. It'll last until some Hamasnick just has to try and kill a Jew. I don't give that very long.

re: #20 lawhawk

Not part of the deal.

I think he has passed away (& not of natural causes).

re: #29 brainwizard73

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

Just becuase I can get more for my bet, I will take the over. Eventually, one of these days, peace will break out...when it does I can laugh all the way to the cashier's window.

You must be expecting to live a pretty long time?

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

They'll probably blame a rogue faction or splinter group.

"Its the Judean's People Front! Or is it the People's Front of Judea?"

re: #28 Nevergiveup

Yeah, just like their keeping an eye on Hizballah rearming?
[Link: www.debka.com...]

Looks like it might become a hot summer ...

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They'll probably blame a rogue faction or splinter group.

"Its the Judean's People Front! Or is it the People's Front of Judea?"

Neither! The People's Judean Front!

Peace In Our Time

To this day I'm astounded that the person holding this sign at a 2003 anti-war rally was being completely serious. My caption says:

This sign, which (from what I can uncover) appeared at the "World Peace Event" protest in New York City on February 9, 2003, echoes the words of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in 1938 when he returned with a signed agreement from Hitler "guaranteeing" that there would be no war between Germany and Britain. The fact that this ranks as one of the greatest political blunders of all time seems to be lost on this naive protester.

"I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody."

That is the funniest thing I've ever read at LGF.

i agree. where is shalit? why wasn't he a part of this deal? how can the israeli government congratulate themselves on a farce of a document?

likud had best win the next election.

6 hours sounds about right.

Or maybe 5.

Now does the 'cease fire' actually cover the Sderot missile attacks? I think that's not covered... I mean, especially since most of the media doesn't acknowledge it... I mean come on now, if they don't cover it, it isn't happening...

re: #36 zombie

Peace in our time! The perfect rotating title.

A truce with Hamas is like the silence at an opera when the baritone inhales between notes.

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

and Israel will be blamed. Of course. It's always their fault.

After all, they are still preparing for a "large-scale offensive". (I can't find the link anymore... I'm thinking JPost updated the article and gave it a new name).

This is basically just an excuse for Hamas to do as much as they possibly can until Thursday at 6 A.M. without consequences, after all, there is no ceasefire until that time.

re: #32 Nevergiveup

You must be expecting to live a pretty long time?

Sure.

The people in my neighborhood invite you over for pool parties and shovel your driveway when you are on vacation in the winter. If I had Israel's neighbors...well, perhaps I wouldn't be so sure.

re: #41 tfc3rid

Now does the 'cease fire' actually cover the Sderot missile attacks? I think that's not covered... I mean, especially since most of the media doesn't acknowledge it... I mean come on now, if they don't cover it, it isn't happening...

Was this cease fire announced at 3:00AM like Randolph's firing?

re: #28 Nevergiveup

Yeah, just like their keeping an eye on Hizballah rearming?
[Link: www.debka.com...]

I saw this.

Olmert pisses me off.

It's not treason if the government does it, is it?

re: #42 Golem Akbar

Peace in our time! The perfect rotating title.

"Peace in our mind" might work out better.

Charles Johnson is far too pessimistic with this six hours prediction: He should give it at least eight hours.

re: #49 Mr Spiffy

depends. jefferson would think so.

re: #26 lawhawk,

I think the Israelis should release hundreds of terrorists. Take them out in the desert, and release them with a 9mm "pardon" for all crimes committed.

Dump 'em in a big hole, and cover them with dirt. Preferably using Caterpillar D-9 dozers.

re: #48 rlevitin

I saw this.

Olmert pisses me off.

Who doesn't he piss off?

re: #7 ironbill

They must be out of pipe and explosives

The shipment is arriving soon, hence the ceasfire until then.

test

re: #30 Iron Fist

Hudna!Hudna!Hudna!Hudna!Hudna!

Not peace. Merely a cessation of fighting to rest and rearm. It'll last until some Hamasnick just has to try and kill a Jew. I don't give that very long.

Right.

To bad there isn't a word for it in Hebrew. Then again, given the track record, maybe the Israelis get something of a pass on military preparation.

re: #54 Nevergiveup

Who doesn't he piss off?

The "Peace Now" crowd, and leftist doves who can't see reality for what it is. =( (Is there a way to make a pouty-face emoticon?)

Al Gore said it best, although he didn't realize he was defining Islam.
"There is NO controlling legal authority,'' in Islam.
None in Hamas, Hezb'allah, Fatah, Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade, the Muslim Brotherhood, Our Muslim Bakery, no where is there a man who can take charge and impose order or reason on his rabble.
Why not?
Because their leaders do all they can to turn them into rabble.

Is there no longer any leaders? Is there no one at that level connected to reality? Is there no one in govt. with balls?
This get's soooooo frustrating!

I always knew Hamas would come to their senses.

HaMas = XMas in June.

/what do you mean I'm out of beer.

I'm thinking that they missed this part of the story:

"And to celebrate the cease fire, HAMA representatives fired volleys of automatic weapons fire into the air in the general direction of Israel..."

Peas in our thyme

Completely OT: More whacko conspiracy theories - The evil government is putting chemicals in your food!

6 hours? I think that is optimistic.

re: #64 Cygnus

Completely OT: More whacko conspiracy theories - The evil government is putting chemicals in your food!

Drugs are bad Mkay?

To restate a classic question from the Jewish tradition:

"Why is this ceasefire different from all other ceasefires?"

(Answer: Well, it isn't, really.)

re: #66 taxfreekiller

ROK's?

re: #56 christheprofessor
Love your new avatar.

re: #40 TalkinKamel

6 hours sounds about right.

Or maybe 5.

6 hours and 1 minute. 6 hours to plan the next rocket attacks, 1 minute to carry out.

re: #68 Occasional Reader

if you can come up with an applicable four sons analogy, i will bow to your genius.

re: #64 Cygnus

Completely OT: More whacko conspiracy theories - The evil government is putting chemicals in your food!

Ridiculous! The chemicals in our food are just fallout from the chemtrails. Everyone knows that.

Secretary of State [for "Palestine"] meets with the terrorists running Lebanon:

Rice Met with Hizbullah Leaders in Lebanon

(IsraelNN.com) American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with Hizbullah party leaders during her surprise visit to Lebanon Monday, The New York Times reported. She also spoke with Lebanese President Michel Suleiman about the future of the eight-square mile Shebaa Farms in the Mount Dov area at Israel's northern border. He has claimed sovereignty over the area.

(...)

Secretary Rice refused to admit that the compromise was a setback for the United States "Obviously, in any compromise, there are compromises," she said. "But this was an agreement that I think served the interests of the Lebanese people. And since it serves the interests of the Lebanese people, it serves the interests of the United States."

WTF? Has she been in taking speech lessons from Barry?

Concerning Shebaa Farms, Secretary Rice indicated her opposition towards Israel retaining the area, which in the past has been a frequent target for Hizbullah terrorists.

"The United States believes that the time has come to deal with the Shebaa Farms issue ... in accordance with [UN Security Council Resolution] 1701," Secretary Rice said.

re: #69 Kefirah

ROK's?

Republic of Korea

Oh well Charles if you are going to title the thread "Peace in Our Time", here's a video of Neville Chamberlain:

"...which bears his signature on it as well as mine."

We know how that turned out.

re: #75 Hard Right

hi, i am an idiot.

thanks for the clarification!

Prediction: [staring deep into the crystal ball]Cease fire commences. Instantly rockets are fired into Israel. Hamas claims it came from some unknown source, maybe a rogue group. Israel retaliates. Hamas claims they were fired upon by Israel and thus has broken the truce. [it's always Israel's fault]

Rice blesses Hezbollah power-sharing government

"Obviously in any compromise there are compromises," Condoleezza Rice, PhDolt

re: #43 zombie

A truce with Hamas is like the silence at an opera when the baritone inhales between notes.

Or like the pause before the 'Dies Irae' movement in Verdi's Requiem. Whoo!

re: #46 Nevergiveup

Was this cease fire announced at 3:00AM like Randolph's firing?

Low blow man... And it probably was...

re: #77 Kefirah

hi, i am an idiot.

thanks for the clarification!

I usually am too, but my meds kicked in 20 minutes ago.

re: #40 TalkinKamel

{Kamel}

Watch for an e-mail for me....I just read an article and I thought of you and BabyKamel.

It can't be peace. The Islamawhacko's definition of peace is "submission".

re: #69 Kefirah

ROK's?

Republic of Korea (troops).

re: #56 christheprofessor

test

I think you aced it. Cute avatar, BTW. Are those your dogs?

re: #73 Occasional Reader

Aren't foods, technically, made-up of chemicals? Without chemicals there would be no food --or us.

re: #84 WriterMom

Have you got a report on Ezra's speech? Inquiring minds need to know...

It's all fun and games in Gaza lobbing rockets hither and thither, until Israel starts air strikes. Heh.

Via the BBC:

"I am confident that everybody will abide by what we've agreed. All the groups which went to Cairo gave their okay to the ceasefire. If anybody does anything, they will be doing it on their own," he said.

Yeah right. Lets just set up the fact that we will break the ceasefire kill some jews and blame it on a lone wolf (brainwashed by us)
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #64 Cygnus

Completely OT: More whacko conspiracy theories - The evil government is putting chemicals in your food!

And in other news, the evil drug companies are putting saltpeter in our vitamins to sell more Cialis and Viagra.

BIG PENIS PILL IS RIPPING US OFF!

/

I think we should start an 'over/under' on this cease fire. The winner gets a Give Peace A Chance T-Shirt from Overstock.com

re: #70 newsjunkie_ky

Love your new avatar.

Thanks. The Three (Canine) Amigos -- that's mine on the left (Lightning, Sadie, and Romeo, in that order).

Waiting for the Dell technician to get here to replace my keyboard and see if he can figure out why my system is so unresponsive...

re: #79 MrC_5150

Rice blesses Hezbollah power-sharing government

Yerse - provided its Israel who has to compromise, while the others don't ...

As I wrap up my three week vacation in Ashqelon, Israel, I want to relay my experience from yesterday. As my wife and I were hiking to the old Roman fortification walls of the national park here, we heard the sirens going off, indicating that a rocket was on its way toward the city. It was our first time to have experienced this while we were here. I hope that it is the last also. Not more than two seconds afte the alarm went off, we heard two large explosions coming from the area that my in-laws live in. It was horrifying to say the least. When we arrived at my in-laws, we found out that the rocket landed only a few blocks away from the house, impressing a much more solemn mood upon us. To know that Israelis live this way their whole lives testifies to their character. And to know that those who did this dastardly act did so not knowing where the missiles would land made me truly understand the difference between them and us. We, America and Israel, value the meaning of innocent lives, while they wontanly and indiscrimantly send rockets into heavily populated areas. How can people support this? How can ministers preach from the pulpit in black neighborhoods of Chicago and indorse this behavior? How can presidential candidates sit in those pulpits for twenty years without condoning this?

I pray for the Israelis, whether they be Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, for having to put up with this.

re: #74 Spiritualized

"Obviously, in any compromise, there are compromises"

Yes Condi, including moral compromises.

Obama's view on world economics today in the WSJ.

"Globalization and technology and automation all weaken the position of workers," he said, and a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably. He spoke aboard his campaign bus, where a big-screen TV was tuned to the final holes of the U.S. Open golf tournament.

monkeys are flying out of my butt!

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

I like Israel's comment about the new reality if Palestinians stop attacks. Everyone knows that the cease fire is irrelevant. If the Gaza Palis want Israel to stop incursions and responses, all they have to do is stop firing over the border (rockets, bullets, rpg's, etc.). Everyone knows it. The trouble is, the Palis are like toddlers seeing themselves as the center of the universe and expecting, no, demanding that the adults in the world feed them and change their diapers.

re: #90 Kenneth

I did post some notes, but there is delicious stuff on Ezra's blog and links to a woman who transcribed it on her blog.

re: #35 vxbush

Neither! The People's Judean Front!

I thought that was the Popular Front.

re: #22 find your violent jihadi on ebay!

Plus you forgot that any attacks on Israel can be declared "by some other group" so any response by Israel can be condemned as "breaking the peace settlement". It's win-win for terrorist gangs.

re: #97 lone_wolf_in_illinois

As I wrap up my three week vacation in Ashqelon, Israel, I want to relay my experience from yesterday. As my wife and I were hiking to the old Roman fortification walls of the national park here, we heard the sirens going off, indicating that a rocket was on its way toward the city. It was our first time to have experienced this while we were here. I hope that it is the last also. Not more than two seconds afte the alarm went off, we heard two large explosions coming from the area that my in-laws live in. It was horrifying to say the least. When we arrived at my in-laws, we found out that the rocket landed only a few blocks away from the house, impressing a much more solemn mood upon us. To know that Israelis live this way their whole lives testifies to their character. And to know that those who did this dastardly act did so not knowing where the missiles would land made me truly understand the difference between them and us. We, America and Israel, value the meaning of innocent lives, while they wontanly and indiscrimantly send rockets into heavily populated areas. How can people support this? How can ministers preach from the pulpit in black neighborhoods of Chicago and indorse this behavior? How can presidential candidates sit in those pulpits for twenty years without condoning this?

I pray for the Israelis, whether they be Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, for having to put up with this.

Thanks for sharing that... I hope nobody was hurt. Enjoy the rest of trip!

re: #95 christheprofessor

I love when dogs 'share'.

re: #99 jorline

"Globalization and technology and automation all weaken the position of workers," he said, and a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably.

I think this was one of Hugo Chavez's finest speeches.

What? It wasn't Chavez?

re: #87 Cygnus

I think you aced it. Cute avatar, BTW. Are those your dogs?

Thanks. No, just one is mine (the little one on the left).

Hamas Charter: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

re: #97 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Great comment!

re: #74 Spiritualized

"You're either with us or with the terrorists."

/P.S. "We're with the terrorists. Who are you with?"

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Gaza’s Hamas rulers on Tuesday said they have reached a long-awaited cease-fire with Israel meant to end months of Palestinian assaults on Israeli border towns and bruising Israeli retaliation.

well, to me an "assault" is a pretty good ass kicking
and "bruising" is a mild elbow jab

this is why the joooos never get any respect from the Gazana, Hamassholes, Islam/Arabia in general

they get beat up and never really fight back

this "cease fire" should last 48 hours

isn't that where the term "48 hour rule" came from ?
I ask naively

"No more buwits?"
--Elmer Fudd

re: #111 littleoldlady,

The Democrats support the terrorists. Look at the recent Suprem Court decision on Guitmo for confirmation.

re: #56 christheprofessor

What sweet babies! I love the avatar. I am trying to get a good pic of my three, but its hard to get them all together and relatively still.

re: #99 jorline

Obama's view on world economics today in the WSJ.

"Globalization and technology and automation all weaken the position of workers," he said, and a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably. He spoke aboard his campaign bus, where a big-screen TV was tuned to the final holes of the U.S. Open golf tournament.

monkeys are flying out of my butt!

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Omigawd ...
Does he think its better for people to do backbreaking work in factories, on farms, in warehouses, for a pittance?
Next he'll say women are far happier doing the washing and cleaning by ahnd rather than using all those newfangled technological gadgets ..

Bush made the world a safer place

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

no...it is the guardian. I had to look twice

What happened to the ban on linking to AP stories on front page articles? Did that get rescinded?

re: #49 Mr Spiffy
and (mostly)
re: #52 Kefirah If you mean Thomas Jefferson, surely you jest.
Try reading The Declaration of Independence for starters. Jefferson (Thomas) was a major figure in throwing out a government that did not reflect the will of the people.

I'm off for lunch... c ya lata.

re: #97 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Wow. What a frightening and sad experience. Hope your family will remain safe. My father will travel to Egypt Sunday for 3 weeks. I am kind of nervous about that.

re: #93 BGOH

And in other news, the evil drug companies are putting saltpeter in our vitamins to sell more Cialis and Viagra.

BIG PENIS PILL IS RIPPING US OFF!

/

You mean sticking it to us? No hard feelings.

re: #114 Iron Fist

,

The Democrats support the terrorists. Look at the recent Suprem Court decision on Guitmo for confirmation.

Sorry. I should have quoted at least part of the post I was referring to:

(IsraelNN.com) American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with Hizbullah party leaders during her surprise visit to Lebanon Monday, The New York Times reported.

/not just Democrats... :-(

re: #101 WriterMom

Guess who got censored at LGF last night?

Your's truly.

Charles, or one of his monitors? Inquiring minds want to know.

It was a great link-post, to Condi's sucking up to the Hizbollah powers in Beirut.

re: #102 The Other Les

I thought that was the Popular Front.

Splitters.

re: #106 Occasional Reader

I think this was one of Hugo Chavez's finest speeches.

What? It wasn't Chavez?

One in the same occasional.

Don't any of these moonbat deadheads listen to what comes out of Obama's mouth?

re: #97 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Thank you very much for sharing that.

re: #78 Golem Akbar

Prediction: [staring deep into the crystal ball]Cease fire commences. Instantly rockets are fired into Israel. Hamas claims it came from some unknown source, maybe a rogue group. Israel retaliates. Hamas claims they were fired upon by Israel and thus has broken the truce. [it's always Israel's fault]

Close. One of the other groups, say Islamic Jihad (is there any other kind?) takes credit, Israel attacks that group, and Hamas (and the UN) say Israel broke the cease-fire, even if they don't attack Hamas.

re: #116 yma o hyd

Omigawd ...
Does he think its better for people to do backbreaking work in factories, on farms, in warehouses, for a pittance?
Next he'll say women are far happier doing the washing and cleaning by ahnd rather than using all those newfangled technological gadgets ..

Back to the Dark Ages.

Obama

a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably.

That's just what Marx, Lenin, and Stalin thought! What an original thinker.

Israel should just give the IDF a pseudonym, say, 'The Anti-Jihad Brigade'. Now when the BBC claims Israel has broken the ceasefire, the Israeli government can just say: "It wasn't us, no sir, it was merely a rogue band of ordinary citizens, in an Apache. Ceasefire still on!"

re: #116 yma o hyd

Omigawd ...
Does he think its better for people to do backbreaking work in factories, on farms, in warehouses, for a pittance?
Next he'll say women are far happier doing the washing and cleaning by ahnd rather than using all those newfangled technological gadgets ..

"Four legs good, two legs bad better!"

re: #127 jorline

One in the same occasional.

Don't any of these moonbat deadheads listen to what comes out of Obama's mouth?

He's just so vibrant and strong and tough and eloquent...

He's amazing!

re: #116 yma o hyd
Well at least Barrack Hussein Obama has at last come clean: he wants the GOVERNMENT to decided who gets what income and why.
Not a socialist, a communist.

Closing down the Eternal Victim Hate Factory?

It will never happen.

re: #130 jorline

Heh.
But perhaps we're a tad harsh here - mustn't forget that that poor BHO doesn't know anything about history at all ...

re: #86 Occasional Reader

Republic of Korea (troops).

And a fine example of a republic they are.

re: #115 bellamags

What sweet babies! I love the avatar. I am trying to get a good pic of my three, but its hard to get them all together and relatively still.

Thank you very kindly. I know how you feel -- I've missed so many more good shots than I've been able to get. Even this one isn't in the best focus, but it does capture the spirit of their play...

FYI - there weren't quotes around the wealth redistribution sentence.

re: #99 jorline

Obama's view on world economics today in the WSJ.

"Globalization and technology and automation all weaken the position of workers," he said, and a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably.

So there's a fairer way than distributing it to those who actually earned it, eh Barry?

re: #132 Spiritualized

"It wasn't us, no sir, it was merely a rogue band of ordinary citizens, in an Apache

Hey. China floated the idea of several hundred thousand "volunteers" going to Korea equippped with tanks and artillery, so why the hell not?

Update; look for a flurry of attacks, the cease fire hasn't officially begun yet:

Gaza Truce Between Israel, Hamas to Start June 19, Group Says

So lets review.

Hamas declares a cease fire in 2 days.

They'll launch everything they can in that time frame, then declare the cease fire has begun.

IDF kills those responsible, Hamas claims they broke the cease fire.

re: #137 taxfreekiller

A LOT of profit off it...

re: #5 AK oilfield worker

6 hours is pretty optimistic Charles, i think rockets will be flying before that. We should start a pool.

Yep, my first thought was "too optimistic" and my second thought was "should have a pool".

My buck is in. I pick 2hrs 17 min.

re: #139 debutaunt

And a fine example of a republic they are.

(You do know that ROK is the South, not the North, right?)

re: #125 taxfreekiller

The problem with boycotts is they always seem to double back on you. US Marines use equipment made by General Electric.

re: #134 tfc3rid

He's just so vibrant and strong and tough and eloquent...

He's amazing!

Watch his followers pull down their pants, bend over and and fire rockets from their butts during his coronation.

The left has gone completely off their rocker.

re: #117 Jewels (AKA Julian)

wow. I wonder how far this article will go or how quickly the author will be blackballed.

re: #139 debutaunt

And a fine example of a republic they are.

(You do know that ROK is the South, not the North, right?)

Hence, the M-16 in tfk's story - not an AK.

re: #97 lone_wolf_in_illinois

We spent several days in summer '06 with friends in Mezkeret Batya, near Rehovot (after traveling around the north/ Tel Aviv/ Jerusalem). We loved it. My husband went over to Ashkelon to visit a business contact and liked it there too. I should have gone with him to look, but I wanted to spend the day with our friends who are some of the nicest people I've ever known. Anyway, I'd move there in a minute. But I have suggested to an Israeli consul here in the U.S. that they put in another golf course south of Tel Aviv. Ashkelon would be good because they could use the golf course as a demo for solar powered (or some alt energy) desalinization. And it would attract lots of business oriented American Jews (and other visitors) who aren't so religious, but could enjoy spending long spells in Israel... Anyway, there were rockets following us when we were there, too. And I loved it regardless.

re: #133 CIA Reject

I just had this dizzy idea that perhabs he and his wifey (and all of Trinity Church, that Wright person, Farrakhan et al) are really dreaming of a new slave society, this time round whitey being the slaves?

re: #114 Iron Fist

,

The Democrats support the terrorists. Look at the recent Suprem Court decision on Guitmo for confirmation.

It's even more depressing to consider that three of the five were appointed by Republican Presidents.

re: #131 Hard Right

Obama

That's just what Marx, Lenin, and Stalin thought! What an original thinker.

And I'm sure that, in private, BO thinks the reason it didn't work for them is because they were not as enlightened as he is.

/Universal commie excuse for failure - "all our predecessors were screw ups, we know how to make it work!"

re: #149 jorline

Watch his followers pull down their pants, bend over and and fire rockets from their butts during his coronation.

The left has gone continues to be completely off their rocker.

Adjusted.

re: #118 Sarge1984

Hey Sarge - I didn't notice that until you mentioned it! Yeah, I guess the ban on linking to AP stories has been rescinded - I never get all the darn memos!

re: #131 Hard Right

This guy makes my bowels feel like jelly. He scares the hell out of me.

This article in the Jerusalem Post says Israel hasn't confirmed the cease fire.
And it has this:

According to the report, the first stage of the cease-fire would be implemented once Israel opens the Karni and Sufa crossings. During the second stage, which would start a week later, Israel would remove certain restrictions on the goods which are allowed into Gaza.

Stage 1) Hamas imports more raw materials for missiles and bombs
Stage 2) Israel allows in more weapons
Stage 3) New weapons get used by a fringe group, causing Israel to retaliate, and Hamas claims Israel broke the cease-fire.

OT:

Rice: Power-sharing with Hezbollah necessary

BEIRUT, Lebanon - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Monday she welcomes a new power-sharing arrangement in Lebanon even though it increased the power of Hezbollah militants at the expense of U.S.-backed moderates.

"Obviously in any compromise there are compromises," Rice said during a surprise visit to meet Lebanon's new consensus choice for president. The election of former army chief, Michel Suleiman, last month is the clearest sign that Lebanon stepped back from the brink and that the deal with Iranian-backed Hezbollah is taking hold.

Does compromising security fit in there anywhere? Just wondering...

re: #135 realwest

And those who actually have studied history 9if not been made to live through it) know precisely what goes hand-in-hand with a communist regime: the Nomenklatura!
Orwell saw this well: some animals being more equal than others ...

Off-topic:

Been playing around on 270towin and using polls from RCP and guesses to fill them.

The unanswered questions:

1. Colorado: No doubt metropolitan Denver is responsible for much of the blue tint of Colorado. My cousin used to live there, my stepsister still lives there, and it's completely Californicated. But what happens if the Democrats prove to be bad houseguests for the 2008 Convention?

2. Iowa: Like Louisiana after Katrina and Rita, a certain percentage of residents are not coming back, or at least will not be back before November (and absentee voting is a pain). How did they plan to vote?

3. Michigan: Just how teed off are Michigan Democrats over the delegates flap? Floridians are pretty teed off.

re: #132 Spiritualized

Israel should just give the IDF a pseudonym, say, 'The Anti-Jihad Brigade'. Now when the BBC claims Israel has broken the ceasefire, the Israeli government can just say: "It wasn't us, no sir, it was merely a rogue band of ordinary citizens, in an Apache. Ceasefire still on!"

There would be plenty of Israelis ready to sign up for a "civilian" group like this.
But we know who would be called "terrorist"

re: #157 realwest

I was just asking because I hadn't seen an update on the AP thread...

re: #156 Hard Right

Adjusted.

Thanks, Hard...good catch!

re: #155 CIA Reject

And I'm sure that, in private, BO thinks the reason it didn't work for them is because they were not as enlightened as he is.

/Universal commie excuse for failure - "all our predecessors were screw ups, we know how to make it work!"

Exactly. This time it will be different. Definition of insanity...

re: #149 jorline

Watch his followers pull down their pants, bend over and and fire rockets from their butts during his coronation.

The left has gone completely off their rocker.

There will NEVER be any weaponry fired during the reign of King Barack I... Peace will reign, Church bells will ring and America will enter a new age, where kindness and love will be more prevalent than war and reality...

ROK (along with Taiwan) is also a fun political structure because of the frequent, bench-clearing brawls in their Parliament. Imagine how much more interesting C-SPAN would be if we did that.

re: #124 Maine's Michael

That Condi/ Lebanon/ Hizbullah story was in our breakfast table paper today. Why o why do the Bush people not stand up to Hizbullah? At the very least they should dis them. Power sharing after a violent power grab from people we consider terrorists? And our secy of state verifies their ill-begotten gains?

Is the return of kidnapped soldiers part of the cease fire?

How about allowing a visit by the red cross for the kidnapped soldier?

Did Egypt forget to put that in?

Hamas Ceasefire, Version 1,396,238.

/same as all the others

re: #142 David Simon

So there's a fairer way than distributing it to those who actually earned it, eh Barry?

Under his model, wealt will be distributed as follows:
Those with political power: 100%
Everyone else gets equal share of the remainder.
That's how Communism works.

re: #10 lawhawk

Only six hours?

Heck, I give it less. Three. And even then, the ceasefire will not be considered broken until Israel returns fire.

My thoughts exactly.

re: #167 tfc3rid

Church bells will ring

But only at permitted churches. (Specifically, the United Church of 'God Damn America'.)

re: #167 tfc3rid

There will NEVER be any weaponry fired during the reign of King Barack I... Peace will reign, Church bells will ring and America will enter a new age, where kindness and love will be more prevalent than war and reality...

bottle rockets tfc

re: # rlevitin & zombie

As far as I know from the local news (I don't speak or understand Hebrew very well and mostly what I get is from the Russian language news, which I understand fairly well) only one was hurt from the shrapnel. I tried to go see where it had occurred, but couldn't find it because they make sure that the palestinians don't know where they hit through censorship of the locations.

Can't wait to get home though!

re: #159 Kosh's Shadow

This article in the Jerusalem Post says Israel hasn't confirmed the cease fire.
And it has this:

Stage 1) Hamas imports more raw materials for missiles and bombs
Stage 2) Israel allows in more weapons
Stage 3) New weapons get used by a fringe group, causing Israel to retaliate, and Hamas claims Israel broke the cease-fire.

So, if I get this - the first stage is when Israel opens the first border crossings?
So hamas can send as many Kassams, until the border posts are open?

Or do iImisunderstand what they mean?

re: #125 taxfreekiller

General Electric owns NBC, NBC news tells lies about America.

Do not buy any thing with the name GE on it.

"Thou shalt not make a profit off helping get U.S. Marines killed."

facts count up
GE stock goes down.
GE stock holders need to look at themselves.

Thanks tfk. I need to buy some light bulbs, and I'll avoid GE.

re: #174 Occasional Reader

But only at permitted churches. (Specifically, the United Church of 'God Damn America'.)

LOL

re: #167 tfc3rid

You forgot that the lions will lay down with the lambs and white doves will ascend to heaven. There will be no more hunger, pestilence or natural disasters. King Obama will make everything OK.

PS. Cute Yorkie!

re: #153 yma o hyd

I don't give him that much credit for original thought. I think the society he has in mind has been tried, and failed many time before.

As I've posted here previously it is very disturbing when you can find the platform of a major US political party's presidential nominee neatly summarized in the writings of George Orwell.

re: #142 David Simon

So there's a fairer way than distributing it to those who actually earned it, eh Barry?

And it's good to see that Barry understands that "wealth" is just this big, constant, unchanging lump of stuff sitting out there, and all people have to do is divide it up fairly. I'm pretty sure that represents a sound understanding of economics, right?

This "truce" is only to get the Joooos to come out from behind their rocks and trees so Hamas can shoot them better.

'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7 of the Hamas covenant)

re: #147 Occasional Reader

(You do know that ROK is the South, not the North, right?)

I was thinking about the way republic is used in the wrong way - the 'people's republic of whatever.' You're right - in this case the ROK refers to the south and a much better usage of republic.

Read between the lines...

Hamas official Ahmed Yousef told the BBC: "I am confident that everybody will abide by what we've agreed. All the groups which went to Cairo gave their okay to the ceasefire. If anybody does anything, they will be doing it on their own," he said.

re: #1 Sharmuta

Cease fire = time to rearm. Nothing more.

As outlined by the Prophet.

re: #181 CIA Reject

I don't give him that much credit for original thought. I think the society he has in mind has been tried, and failed many time before.

As I've posted here previously it is very disturbing when you can find the platform of a major US political party's presidential nominee neatly summarized in the writings of George Orwell.

Indeed.
Just makes one wonder if they've actually read Orwell?

re: #167 tfc3rid

...during the reign of King Amir Barack I... PeaceSubmission will reign, Church bells will ring be banned and America will enter a new an Islamic age, ....

re: #182 Occasional Reader

And it's good to see that Barry understands that "wealth" is just this big, constant, unchanging lump of stuff sitting out there, and all people have to do is divide it up fairly. I'm pretty sure that represents a sound understanding of economics, right?

Wealth is like a huge cake, mun - he understands waffles, so obviously he understands 'cake' ...

re: #157 realwest

Hey Sarge - I didn't notice that until you mentioned it! Yeah, I guess the ban on linking to AP stories has been rescinded - I never get all the darn memos!

It's a frontal assault.
The ban was just a diversion.

/Hm?

re: #182 Occasional Reader

And it's good to see that Barry understands that "wealth" is just this big, constant, unchanging lump of stuff sitting out there, and all people have to do is divide it up fairly. I'm pretty sure that represents a sound understanding of economics, right?

For a lefty that about sums it up, yes.

re: #168 Occasional Reader

ROK (along with Taiwan) is also a fun political structure because of the frequent, bench-clearing brawls in their Parliament. Imagine how much more interesting C-SPAN would be if we did that.

They fight like little girls most of the time.
Our version: Congressman Mike Tyson...

re: #162 RememberSekhmet?

Off-topic:

Been playing around on 270towin and using polls from RCP and guesses to fill them.

The unanswered questions:

1. Colorado: No doubt metropolitan Denver is responsible for much of the blue tint of Colorado. My cousin used to live there, my stepsister still lives there, and it's completely Californicated. But what happens if the Democrats prove to be bad houseguests for the 2008 Convention?

Good question. Some may be too embaressed to show their faces afterward.

2. Iowa: Like Louisiana after Katrina and Rita, a certain percentage of residents are not coming back, or at least will not be back before November (and absentee voting is a pain). How did they plan to vote?

There seems to be some talk in Iowa about not trusting in government so much after the floods as well. Lots of comments about that in the different Iowa papers.

3. Michigan: Just how teed off are Michigan Democrats over the delegates flap? Floridians are pretty teed off.

Majorly. There are a ton of Hillary supporters who are majorly pissed off at Obama for taking his name off the ballot, disenfranchising them, declaring victory, and then having the gall to try to shore up support. The UAW may have endorced Obama, but the Dems there are having a minor meltdown too. Most of it is over Granholm's non-performance as governor, and Kwame's status as indicted. When Kwame spoke at the Red Wings Stanley Cup victory parade, he was booed so loudly you could not hear the man talk. (Shoot, I'll bet they could hear the booing over in Windsor.)

#177

Stage 3) New weapons get used by a fringe group, causing Israel to retaliate, and Hamas claims Israel broke the cease-fire.

They're already setting it up: see my post #93

re: #169 Sunlight

Yes. It is an important story, highlighting wrong and thoroughly detestable decision making by our admin.

In fact, it is akin to to the the USA fellating Hizbollah, as if the deaths of 240 marines and Robert Stethem, as well as the murders and trading in Israeli body parts were bygones, and business as usual, respectively.

As if Hizbollah were not a subsidiary of the intolerant and genocidal Iranian regime.

Disgusting beyond words.

I can't for the life of me figure out why my post was deleted. I can't believe Charles would have condoned it.

If anybody does anything, they will be doing it on their own,

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

re: #168 Occasional Reader

ROK (along with Taiwan) is also a fun political structure because of the frequent, bench-clearing brawls in their Parliament. Imagine how much more interesting C-SPAN would be if we did that.

Funny thing is, we have had Congress do exactly that in the past. Hell, they've even brought guns to the House floor and have cane whipped each other.

Israel refused to confirm a deal, but said a "new reality" would take hold if Palestinian attacks end.

I would call that an "alternate reality."

re: #182 Occasional Reader Hey O.R. - well Barry understands it well enough that he and his wife are worth well into the millions now (their combined incomes, in calendar year 2005, were over $1.5 million and she "earns" $350,000+ from the University and they both get TOTALLY FREE complete health care, dental care and Life Insurance and will get (if he gets elected POTUS or re-elected to the Senate) a lifetime pension equal to what he made as a US Senator.
Oh, Barry knows economics ok. That's why with his Harvard Law Degree (and Law Review) he went to work the streets of Chicago for the Chicago Machine - much better pay than any "White Shoe" Law firm!

Unless this agreement has something in it about all Israelis voluntarily walking into the Mediterranean Sea before 11:59 PM on Wednesday, i don't see the Palestinians taking this too seriously.

re: #193 Honorary Yooper Boy, is THAT some good news! Thanks!

re: #172 Kosh's Shadow

Under his model, wealt will be distributed as follows:
Those with political power: 100%
Everyone else gets equal share of the remainder.
That's how Communism works.

Would you believe I was scolded by a sixty-something Russian Jewish immigrant (who actually lived under that terrible system) on Father's Day for suggesting that Obama's thinking appears to have been influenced by Marx?

So many willing dupes.

/Spit

re: #122 Hard Right

You mean sticking it to us? No hard feelings.

Uh, oh. I can see where this thread is going.

re: #187 yma o hyd

Indeed.
Just makes one wonder if they've actually read Orwell?

If they have they sure as hell didn't learn anything from it - except maybe what type of animal they want to be or what color overalls they want to wear.

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

Thanks tfk. I need to buy some light bulbs, and I'll avoid GE.

and be sure they are green. You know the ones you can't read by and will poison you if they break.

Check out the BBC's version of the story at: [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Hamas official Ahmed Yousef told the BBC: "I am confident that everybody will abide by what we've agreed. All the groups which went to Cairo gave their okay to the ceasefire. If anybody does anything, they will be doing it on their own," he said.

The last line says it all. There is no way that the truce could work without enforcement from the Hamas government. It is clear that Hamas will not prevent individuals from acting on their own. Or, at least, that is what they will say. What they really mean by a "truce" is a reduction in attacks without the treat of Israeli defensive measures. There is no other government that would not be called to account if it perpetrated this kind of sham.

re: #203 Cygnus Ya think we'll get the shaft?!

re: #149 jorline

Watch his followers pull down their pants, bend over and and fire rockets from their butts during his coronation.

The left has gone completely off their rocker.

Ooooh, I love fireworks!

re: #169 Sunlight

That Condi/ Lebanon/ Hizbullah story was in our breakfast table paper today. Why o why do the Bush people not stand up to Hizbullah? At the very least they should dis them. Power sharing after a violent power grab from people we consider terrorists? And our secy of state verifies their ill-begotten gains?

If we're going to suck up to the Arabs, we should have $0.50/gal gasoline.
We kiss their [deleted] [deleted] and they still stick us in the behind.

re: #182 Occasional Reader

And it's good to see that Barry understands that "wealth" is just this big, constant, unchanging lump of stuff sitting out there, and all people have to do is divide it up fairly. I'm pretty sure that represents a sound understanding of economics, right?

Among leftists, yes it is. What five decades of the Welfare State hath wrought: the belief that wealth should be meted out rather than earned.

re: #168 Occasional Reader

ROK (along with Taiwan) is also a fun political structure because of the frequent, bench-clearing brawls in their Parliament. Imagine how much more interesting C-SPAN would be if we did that.

C-SPAN would stop being a free channel.

Or they could move the Friday Night Fight to a pay per view channel.

re: #170 Buck

Is the return of kidnapped soldiers part of the cease fire?

How about allowing a visit by the red cross for the kidnapped soldier?

Did Egypt forget to put that in?

No, those aren't part of the cease-fire.
In which case, Israel should capture the Hamas leadership.

OT -

This whole tax increase for the rich really bothers me. I own a small business and on paper, it looks like we make a lot of money. However, when you break it down, I barely make minimum wage. Granted, we are improving the business (buying new equipment and inventory) and the choice is mine to not take as much money as I could.

My social security "contributions" are outrageous. I must match what the government gets from each paycheck in the social security and medicare columns. I have 2 other employees and my frikin' bill each month is about $900. Thats almost what I take home in an entire month. We also have a "tangible tax". This is really stupid and I don't even know how it can be legal. They send me a TAX BILL on all of the tangible property I have in my business: chairs, computers, tanning equipment, EVERYTHING. That runs me about another grand each year. All of this prevents me from expanding, hiring new employees and investing.

To put this in perspective, I have a client who is a dentist. His tax bill each month? $24,000, for about 15 employees. He has to keep a line of credit open just to make sure he can pay all of it.

That is where the real income redistributions happen. Don't even get me started on state and city licensing, fees, inspections. They are up your butt constantly. It really is not worth it to open a business. It just keeps getting worse and worse.

Also, I am not PERMITTED to advertise any positive effects from sunlight. However, the damn media can say whatever they want about tanning without any kind of limitations. They are finding new evidence everyday that shows sunlight is essential for health. Burning is bad, sunlight good. I can't say that. Its against the law. OH and another thing The cosmetic industry is a 650 million a year business. Their lobby works very hard in the "sunscare" industry. Tanning salon owners have no recourse. I have a couple of plans though and I am going to implement them soo.

re: #177 yma o hyd

So, if I get this - the first stage is when Israel opens the first border crossings?
So hamas can send as many Kassams, until the border posts are open?

Or do iImisunderstand what they mean?

You understand. Hamas, though, will probably wait until they have rearmed.

re: #195 Maine's Michael

Was it too negative on Condi? It's very hard to discern the pressures in this last 6 mos of Pres. Bush's term... re not starting a new fight for the U.S. in Lebanon or Iran... who knows what is going on.

Its alway the same Bullshit reporting too.
Paraphrase:" the Israelis have launched attacks that have killed HUNDREDS of Palestinians many of them civilians"
No mention that ALMOST ALL of the terrorists targets ARE civilians
No mention that the terrorists hide AMONGST the so-called civilians
And always with the underlying tone that Israel's right to self defense is not a measured response to Terrorist attacks

My Head hurts already from this crap.

you don't understand how this works. Hamas "won't" do anything bad but if Islamic Jihad, the Palistinian Brotherhood, etc,etc, etc sends a rocket,plants explosives, tryies to drive a truck of explosives somewhere and Israel protects herself- Israel is at fault.

re: #211 The Other Les

C-SPAN would stop being a free channel.

Or they could move the Friday Night Fight to a pay per view channel.

Xtreme C-SPAN! "Can you smell what C-SPAN is cooking?"

It would certainly change the tone, wouldn't it?

re: #195 Maine's Michael

The Hezbollah move (not the violence, but the power grab outside of the stated governmental structure) reminds me of people in the U.S. (eg supreme court) who can't convince enough voters to join their position, so they find loopholes (and use force in Lebanon) to impose their position on everyone else.

Sounds like lots of overtime pay coming soon to many of Gaza's 14,633,452 metal shops.

re: #215 Sunlight

Was it too negative on Condi? It's very hard to discern the pressures in this last 6 mos of Pres. Bush's term... re not starting a new fight for the U.S. in Lebanon or Iran... who knows what is going on.

too negative on Condi- isn't that an oxymoron?

re: #180 bellamags

You forgot that the lions will lay down with the lambs and white doves will ascend to heaven. There will be no more hunger, pestilence or natural disasters. King Obama will make everything OK.

PS. Cute Yorkie!

Thank ya!

re: #216 BIGDUKE 6

Its alway the same Bullshit reporting too.
Paraphrase:" the Israelis have launched attacks that have killed HUNDREDS of Palestinians many of them civilians"
No mention that ALMOST ALL of the terrorists targets ARE civilians
No mention that the terrorists hide AMONGST the so-called civilians
And always with the underlying tone that Israel's right to self defense is not a measured response to Terrorist attacks

My Head hurts already from this crap.

There was a video not long ago showing a Pali guy shooting over the border at Israelis, then running *toward* his family hiding in some trees when the Israelis came after him from the air. They hit him with something small, which got him, but he was strapped up with explosives (or it was in his pack) and the secondary explosion got his family in the trees. I'm sorry but these people are depraved.

re: #172 Kosh's Shadow

Under his model, wealt will be distributed as follows:
Those with political power: 100%
Everyone else gets equal share of the remainder.
That's how Communism works.

My wants are much greater than my needs.

That's how Communism fails.

re: #215 Sunlight

Was it too negative on Condi? It's very hard to discern the pressures in this last 6 mos of Pres. Bush's term... re not starting a new fight for the U.S. in Lebanon or Iran... who knows what is going on.

I'm hoping that it is "good cop, bad cop" and Condi is, to the Arabs, the "good cop". Meanwhile, Bush is letting Israel plan to take out Iran's nuclear facilities.
On second thought, maybe some of the stuff the Obama supporters have been taking got into my food and I'm hallucinating.

I'm always late to these threads and people leave to the next on before I'm done discussing! You guys have good comments.

No mention of Condi being in Israel and this being her class project for the week? Great reporting.

re: #215 Sunlight

Was it too negative on Condi? It's very hard to discern the pressures in this last 6 mos of Pres. Bush's term... re not starting a new fight for the U.S. in Lebanon or Iran... who knows what is going on.

What does 'too negative' mean, rally?

Opinion is opinion.

It was mildy tasteless, is all.

I would have hoped Charles would not pick prudish Bushbots as hallway monitors.

Everytime there is a new agreement about possible truce/ceasefire the following always pops into my head.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

re: #124 Maine's Michael

Guess who got censored at LGF last night?

Your's truly.

Charles, or one of his monitors? Inquiring minds want to know.

It was a great link-post, to Condi's sucking up to the Hizbollah powers in Beirut.

I deleted it myself.

It's not OK at all to post titles like that. It wasn't "mildly tasteless," it was offensive.

I don't put titles like that on my posts, and I don't want them on my site. If you want to post the article with a serious title, go ahead.

re: #228 Maine's Michael

Charles has never objected to substantial criticisms of Bush admin officials. He does think references to fellatio lower the respectability of his blog.

As all have made clear, the problem, also in my humble opinion, is that the sole reason for Hamas existing is the destruction of Israel and killing of the Jews. It is, as they say, who they are.

This has never been repudiated, altered, or even hedged in a meaningful manner.

One would, therefore, expect that any truce, cease fire, or other cessation of hostilities is but a hudna. A temporary respite by Hamas to regroup and rearm so that they might more effectively carry the fight to Israel at a later date.

Now one could, I suppose, argue that Hamas might be transitioning to a more reasonable entity.

I would suggest that the unwillingness of Hamas - like Fatah - to alter their charter to omit the destruction of Israel as a primary codicil, makes any hopes of such a transition naive at best.

re: #230 Charles

I thought the title was a fair representation of what was going on.

But fair enough. Its your house.

re: #231 Kenneth

It's clear he feels that way.

re: #213 bellamags

A good post testifying to the impact socialist legislation has on small business, and therefore on all potential new business.
(Will show this to my kids!)

Shackled Warrior: Israel in bondage.

Glick: I have been so discouraged by Secretary Rice’s policies that I cannot say I am the least bit surprised by her obnoxious statements ordering the Israeli government not to build homes for Jews in Jerusalem, our capital city. I am similarly not surprised by her insistence that Israel give the Fatah terror organization control over the West Bank. It has long been clear that Rice thinks that making things “convenient” for Palestinians by curtailing IDF counter-terror operations in the West Bank is more important than safeguarding the lives of Israel’s citizenry. It is also clear that Rice finds it perfectly acceptable for the Palestinians — who she wants to give a state — to base their nationalism on the negation of Israel’s right to exist. Hence she accepts their racist lies about Jerusalem not belonging to the Jews and embraces the notion that a Palestinian state must be ethnically cleansed of all Jews before it will be acceptable to the Palestinians.

It doesn’t matter to Rice that IDF military commanders are warning that taking down roadblocks in the West Bank will just enable the Palestinians to begin attacking Jerusalem and Israel’s coastal plane with mortars and rockets. It doesn’t matter to Rice that Fatah — which through her good offices the U.S. is training, arming and funding — has taken no action against Hamas since she forced Israel to transfer security control over the towns of Jenin and Nablus to Fatah control last month. Indeed, since she last pressed Israel for dangerous and unreciprocated “confidence building measures” towards the Palestinians, Fatah has begun to negotiate uniting its terror forces with Hamas. And she has nothing to say about this.

I would have preferred that Rice stop advancing the establishment of a jihadist state in the West Bank to add to the jihadist state in Gaza which was established under her good offices in 2006. I would have preferred that Rice — and President Bush — stop placing the establishment of yet another Palestinian jihadist state at the top of their “To do before leaving office” list. But then, given her policies toward North Korea and Iran, I am not the least surprised that she is acting as obnoxiously as she is.

Caroline Glick

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

#84 WriterMom

{WriterMom!}

Many thanks, and I will be on the look out for that!

re: #236 Opinionated

Although Obama would be terrible for the United States, he may be the best thing that could happen to Israel under the circumstances.

When Israel pretends it has a friend in the White House it acts in ways that bring its continued existence into jeopardy. Israel security prospects have diminished considerably under the "best friendship ever" of Bush/Rice.

Acknowledging a foe in the White House, Obama, may awaken Israel that it needs to act to survive in spite of it's adversaries both faux friends and real foes.

re: #236 Opinionated

The Admin sucks on these subjects. In fact, with the exception of the surge, whcih came too late to save the republicans form looming defeat in November, they suck on just about every polcy they have brought forward.

A mid east policy dictated by Sauid Arabia is, of course, doomed to failure.

And they thank their lucky stars every night that they have a grinning, inept, sycophant such as Olmert as their puppet.

re: #239 Maine's Michael

The Administration's malfeasance has presented the US with two terrible futures.

If McCain is elected, he will drown politically trying to fight and defeat the forces that were unleashed and allowed to simmer by this Administration.

If Obama wins, the US will go down the European road of appeasement and surrender.

re: #236 Opinionated

That is a great read. Glick nails it, as usual.

She has been right on every issue she has prognosticated on since 911.

re: #233 Maine's Michael

And so, given that Charles doesn't want LGF to slide into lowlife language when we're frustrated. It makes sense; that language repels lots of people away from the lefty blogs and leaves the scum. Is it re-postable with edited content? I always like your posts and would like to see what you said about this Lebanon story.

re: #241 Maine's Michael

Even she is human. She wrote an idiotic column last week- very rare for her- that Israel and Iraq can become friends.

From a related article... Fear of Casualties Stopped PM from Gaza Offensive

While talks on a cooling-off period of terrorist attacks and IDF retaliation continue, both sides are preparing for war.

The obvious ploy of Hamas. It's the same every time; they start getting their ass handed to them and call timeout.... to rearm and regroup.

re: #240 Opinionated

The Administration's malfeasance has presented the US with two terrible futures.

If McCain is elected, he will drown politically trying to fight and defeat the forces that were unleashed and allowed to simmer by this Administration.

If Obama wins, the US will go down the European road of appeasement and surrender.

I for one would rather go down fighting than just lay down.

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

Hamas will have IJ or some other group allegedly not under its control fire the rockets and then swear that it had nothing to do with the attacks and therefore hasn't broken the truce. Israel will demand that Hamas rein in the other groups, and when that doesn't happen, Israel will have to respond. Hamas will then declare the truce broken by Israel, and things will return to the status quo ante.

Yawn.

re: #241 Maine's Michael

I agree that Caroline Glick is right nearly always. Her angry tone, however, doesn't help the cause of Israel or the people supporting Israel. Many people don't read her all the time because of it. I know she is a political columnist, which must be sooooo angering in itself. I would like to see some columns from her on the politics of science and technology development, how Israel has worked very hard in these fields (a compliment to Israel from Caroline? It would be a breath of fresh air from her), how the business side of the S&T house in Israel has done a good job inserting Israeli S&T into the U.S. and other technology markets, etc. She's very smart and often prescient, but some positive balance so that people don't just stay in bed and cover their heads with the pillow on her topics would improve her effectiveness. I would love to hear her talk or meet her sometime.

re: #247 Sunlight

When a house is on fire, you scream warnings at the top of your lungs. You don't stop to comment on its beautiful furnishings.

re: #243 Opinionated

I agree. That one was silly.

re: #242 Sunlight

Nothing that I haven't said before, about Rice. You didn't miss anything.

The articel I linked to was about Rice's capitulation to Hizbollah in Lebanon.

It was at JPOST, but the story, as you know, is available pretty much anywhere.

Thanks for your kind words.

re: #247 Sunlight

It is tough for her, because the situation is so dire, and so very poorly managed (in Israel).

Sure, Israel gets by pretty well when you get outside of hte politics and the genocidal enemies, but she sees herself as a security and political analyst, and not a cheerleader.

Probably hard for her to disengage and write a feelgood piece when the house is burning.

IN fact, when she does stray away from security and politics, she is less interesting, for me, anyways.

re: #189 yma o hyd

Wealth is like a huge cake, mun - he understands waffles, so obviously he understands 'cake' ...

Is that where/how BHO got the moniker of "Cake Boy", I wonder?

JAFLW

re: #248 Opinionated

When a house is on fire, you scream warnings at the top of your lungs. You don't stop to comment on its beautiful furnishings.

The house may be on fire with regards to the macro (e.g., Iran, etc.), but actually Israel has done a great job on the micro (inside). The rockets are terrible and it will be great if the "iron dome" or whatever can knock them back onto the sending territory... The fence has done a great job with the bus bombers. When we visited Israel, it became quite clear to me that at the neighborhood level, Israel is more secure than much of the U.S. (e.g., we had a gang shootout at a park near us (in a decent part of a U.S. city) and a high school kid we know had to hide under a car with his skateboard to avoid the crossfire). Israel's technology development under fire is a fantastic, strategic asset and I for one would like to see Caroline trumpet that also. If she screams only for years on end, people who are not focused on Israel start to look away. Israel is quite amazing walking this trail. I would like to see her pick out these stories of unbelievable strength and add them to her repertoire. She's be good at it.

re: #244 CommonCents

From a related article... Fear of Casualties Stopped PM from Gaza Offensive

The obvious ploy of Hamas. It's the same every time; they start getting their ass handed to them and call timeout.... to rearm and regroup.

The problem is, there will be more casualties when the inevitable offensive is needed, and probably many casualties in Israel that precipitates the offensive, and the end of the career of Olmerde, the Israeli version of Neville Chamberlain.

re: #252 Sunlight

The house may be on fire with regards to the macro (e.g., Iran, etc.), but actually Israel has done a great job on the micro (inside).

There is a very well trained and armed and motivated army, Hezbollah, on the North, which will soon be matched by a similar force on the Southwest, Hamas, while a US trained and armed enemy is pretending peace in the West/Center.

The storm clouds are ominous.

re: #252 Sunlight

If you want to read good news about Israel, achevments and such:

[Link: www.israel21c.net...]

The truth about Israel's situation is that while miraculous inventions and discoveries are done every day;

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

the world supports those who would murder the researchers who would benefit mankind- and their fellow citizens.

The way Condi is pushing for appeasement with Hamas, Fatah, and Hizballah is almost enough to make me want to put one of those bumper stickers with Bush's last day on my car - next to a McCain sticker, so no one takes me for a moonbat.

"I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody."

I think the over/under last time was 12 hours.

re: #29 brainwizard73

I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

Just becuase I can get more for my bet, I will take the over. Eventually, one of these days, peace will break out...when it does I can laugh all the way to the cashier's window.

You're gonna have to double down a real lotta times just to break even my friend... and that's why the casinos have table limits... thats a suckers bet.

The Hudna starts at 6 a.m. So it's going to be a long night in Sderot... 4 Qassams fired at 9 pm, one child wounded already.

re: #6 doppelganglander

on this one pork will become GLATT KOSHER before it becomes air born.

I’m giving it about 6 hours minutes before Hamas tries to kill somebody.

/Fixed

re: #261 SpiritOf1683

Why do you think they'd wait that long? And besides, they specifically don't guarantee the behavior of any of the "other groups(which I maintain is just a shell game its really all one)" so they can just outsource.

re: #36 zombie

I could almost make that sign if i could put

NEVILE CHAMBERLIN 1936

Wonder if any of these fools would get it?

re: #119 realwest

i am well-aware of jefferon's points. perhaps i was ambiguous - jefferson WOULD think that a government that did not reflect the will of the people was being "treasonous," is what i meant to convey.

"I’m giving it about 6 hours before Hamas tries to kill somebody."

6 Hours!? I'm giving them 12 minutes.

"...bruising Israeli retaliation."

That's so...poetic.

Here's a site where they think it's the other way around: that Israel will be the first to violate this hudna rearmament period truce.

board

I've been a contributor to this site since about Sept 2002. (board was reorganized after the death of the founder)

"House hit in pre-truce Kassam barrage
At least 24 rockets strike western Negev hours before ceasefire; Gov't: deal to bring "new reality."

From jpost.com