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Obama's National Security Adviser: Winnie the Pooh

Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:28:24 pm PDT

Un-freaking-believable: Barack Obama aide: Why Winnie the Pooh should shape US foreign policy.

Richard Danzig, who served as Navy Secretary under President Clinton and is tipped to become National Security Adviser in an Obama White House, told a major foreign policy conference in Washington that the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else.

Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

Oh yeah. Let’s put these people in charge of the United States. What could possibly go wrong?

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1 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:29:55pm

Well, Obama's foreign policy will be a lot of poo.

2 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:30:10pm

Pooh is great for explaining the Tao, but for foreign policy not so much.

3 Roentgen  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:30:28pm

We are so-o-o-o screwed if B-Ho wins.

4 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:30:43pm

Isn't it funny how a bear likes honey.
Buzz buzz buzz,
I wonder why he does.

—WTP.

"No brains at all, some of them. Just grey fluff blown in."

—Eeyore.

5 eric  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:30:45pm

This is how they condescend to the plebes.

6 guzziguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:30:56pm

Yogi as the secretary of the interior? Vast knowledge of parks you know.

7 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:30:57pm

Yup, a couple of new national seals:

[Link: arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com...]

8 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:31:03pm

I think the Obamanation's foreign policy can be summed up in one word:
Surrender.

9 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:31:10pm

Oh, bother.

10 Archimedes  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:31:12pm

Oh bother!

11 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:31:41pm

Oh bother.

12 eric  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:31:56pm

Think...think...think...Ouch I got an idea

13 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:31:59pm

Come on, everyone now!

14 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:02pm

re: #6 guzziguy

Yogi as the secretary of the interior? Vast knowledge of parks you know.

The bear or Berra?

15 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:13pm

re: #6 guzziguy

Yogi as the secretary of the interior? Vast knowledge of parks you know.

And he'll work cheap - a couple of pic-a-nic baskets a day.
But since he's smarter than the average bear, he might be smart enough not to be an Obama supporter.

16 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:20pm
17 unclassifiable  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:22pm
Oh yeah. Let’s put these people in charge of the United States. What could possibly go wrong?

Well when these people are in charge of the U.S. they'll just change the definition of wrong.

And it looks like the presumptive NSA chief is developing quite a reputation for pooh.

18 hjalmar80  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:27pm

More and more, I feel like I am living in a friggin' Dali painting.

19 guzziguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:46pm

re: #14 Nevergiveup

The bear or Berra?


Either, but I was thinking of the one that was smarter than average.

20 eric  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:48pm

Assistant Secretary Boo-boo

21 Watcher  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:32:48pm

I'm freaking speechless.

22 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:08pm

re: #13 itellu3times

Come on, everyone now!

Oh, bama.

23 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:17pm

re: #20 eric

Assistant Secretary Boo-boo

The foreign policy will be full of boo-boos.

24 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:22pm

I didn't know Winnie the Pooh was a far left quasi socialist.

25 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:33pm

Like I said last night when some good lizard put this up as a spin-off link: a wind sandwitch between two slices of breeze if I remember my Pooh.

26 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:35pm
27 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:39pm

Y'mean, Triumph the Insult Bear:

The war in Iraq is great - for me to Pooh on!

28 unclassifiable  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:42pm

I nominate Yogi Berra for U.S. poet laureate.

29 jcm  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:52pm

Brilliant!

Put jars of honey all around the world. Our enemies will get them stuck on their noses and they'll be helpless.

Stroke of genius if you ask me.

/ need I?

30 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:33:53pm

I have to say that if they are still shooting at you then you haven't caused enough pain.

31 Mike McDaniel  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:34:00pm

Remember, the Winnie the Pooh comment came from a man that Bill Clinton made Secretary of the Navy.

And we wonder why we lost 3,000 people on 11 September 2001.

32 Shakey Jakey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:34:15pm

I've seen a lot over the years but Obama and his posse take the cake

33 wee fury  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:34:23pm

I am assuming that by going with the new Pooh policy -- we will tickle a terrorists tummy until they surrender.

34 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:34:25pm

We are so screwed.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE FIND A GROWN UP IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY before they kill us all ?

35 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:17pm

re: #18 hjalmar80

More and more, I feel like I am living in a friggin' Dali painting.

just wanted to repeat that

36 Shakey Jakey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:18pm

re: #34 mama winger

They kicked out their only adult

37 brickthruplateglasswindow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:26pm

I was always more of a Tigger fan myself. Indefatigable although somewhat reckless.

38 Macker  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:34pm

re: #32 Shakey Jakey

I've seen a lot over the years but Obama and his posse take the cake

Or the waffle.

39 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:37pm

re: #28 unclassifiable

I nominate Yogi Berra for U.S. poet laureate.

He is more qualified for that than Obama is to be President, or a Senator for that matter.

40 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:49pm

re: #34 mama winger

Throw the party out by a massive defeat in November and your problem is solved.

41 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:52pm

re: #24 Sizzlack

I didn't know Winnie the Pooh was a far left quasi socialist.

They haven't seen Apocalypse Pooh.

Youtube Video

42 jcm  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:35:58pm

re: #34 mama winger

We are so screwed.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE FIND A GROWN UP IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY before they kill us all ?

Ahhh, no the last one, Lieberman, left. It's all koskiddies on movement.org.

43 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:36:08pm
44 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:36:28pm

re: #36 Shakey Jakey

They kicked out their only adult

Golly Moses these people are unbelievable.

45 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:36:34pm
Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

Check his papers.

46 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:36:49pm

I don't know how you can spell Tuesday without a two.

47 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:36:57pm

re: #18 hjalmar80

More and more, I feel like I am living in a friggin' Dali painting.

Definitely Dali. Not Picasso—too normal.

48 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:37:19pm

McCain campaign ad in 3... 2... 1

49 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:37:35pm

Well look, the comment isn't that far off, any competent commander, in chief or in not chief, should stop doing something that doesn't work. And we have, we put Petreus in place, and the "surge", and things are working a LOT better now. If they'd gone even this well from 2003 on, we might be out by now. But for a long, long time we had lousy execution, blame it on Rumsfeld, Bush, JCS, I dunno, but it really, really stunk, which gives any hindsight-oriented political ankle-biter just the toehold they need to keep from being dismissed out of hand.

So, gotta put up with this stuff, up to McCain to counter it.

50 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:37:48pm

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

Mama! How's the floofball?

OMG buzz. I am so head over heels that I am embarassed even by my own pathetic self. I wake up in the morning and I immediately think "I have this great dog!"

I'm such a sap.

51 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:38:07pm

Jack and Jill went up the hill....oops sorry that is Obama's policy to end the energy crisis.

52 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:38:10pm
53 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:38:33pm

re: #32 Shakey Jakey

I've seen a lot over the years but Obama and his posse take the cake

And I think, and hope, and pray, that this will be seen by the American people and the results will be his overwhelming defeat.

Keep yapping, bambi.

54 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:14pm

"All politicians should get two terms. One in office and one in prison."

—Mark Twain

(Note that this does not say "leaders".)

55 stevieray  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:18pm

Odd. I always figured they'd shape their foreign policy on the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers.

56 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:25pm
57 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:26pm

I mean - come on.....

Winnie the Pooh!?

I just can't get over it.

58 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:37pm

I liked The Tao of Pooh as much as the next guy but this is ridiculous.

59 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:37pm

We can get all the nations to start playing nice together by introducing them to the game pooh sticks. Brilliant!

60 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:43pm
"Christopher Robin, you must shoot the balloon with
your gun. Have you got your gun?"

"Of course I have," you said. "But if I do that, it
will spoil the balloon," you said. "But if you don't" said Pooh,
"I shall have to let go, and that would spoil me."

When he put it like this, you saw how it was, and you
aimed very carefully at the balloon, and fired.

"Ow!" said Pooh.

"Did I miss?" you asked.

"You didn't exactly miss," said Pooh, "but you missed
the balloon."


--from Winnie The Pooh and Some Bees

61 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:43pm

They're loving this in Iran, but Piglet, he's got to go!

62 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:51pm

re: #56 buzzsawmonkey

That's sweet, dang it.

I am blessed by love.

63 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:39:57pm

re: #52 buzzsawmonkey

Just say, "Hello, Dali."

Maybe to Carol Channing but not to that bitch Streisand.

64 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:40:23pm
65 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:40:36pm

We have toppled a mass murdering tyrant in Iraq.
We have liberated the people of Mesopotamia and Afghanistan.
We have promoted democracy and freedom.
We have given the whole Arab world an alternative political structure to murderous tyranny.

Our incredible volunteer military has accomplished this.

They paid 4000 lives. Bless everyone of them.

I do hope that Mr. Danzig does not believe this pain is too much to bear.

66 Salem  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:40:40pm

DANZIG! WOOOOO!

Oh, wait...

67 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:40:41pm

re: #51 Nevergiveup

Jack and Jill went up the hill....oops sorry that is Obama's policy to end the energy crisis.

No, the government will pay for and deliver the pails of water, after they've been inspected by the new well funded federal water pail bureau.

68 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:40:44pm

"Now we are Six" might be a good text too.

/sarc.

69 Roentgen  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:40:46pm

B-Ho world security personnel with consultant.

70 guzziguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:41:18pm

Marvin the Martian in charge of NASA?

71 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:41:25pm

re: #68 Ojoe

"Now we are Six" might be a good text too.

/sarc.

or Goodnight Moon.

72 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:41:37pm

Is that Pooh icon up on Obama's website? It needs a rainbow.

73 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:41:49pm

re: #69 Roentgen

B-Ho world security personnel with consultant.

Ha! ~

74 jcm  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:42:03pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

I liked The Tao of Pooh as much as the next guy but this is ridiculous.

Health Care & The Zen of Motorcycle Maintenance?

75 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:42:15pm

I think I see a bus coming down the street......

76 Alouette  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:42:45pm

re: #47 David IV of Georgia

Definitely Dali. Not Picasso—too normal.

Edvard Munch.

77 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:42:49pm

re: #72 NoSubmission

That is some icky latter day Pooh.

Shepard's (?) original illustrations were better.

78 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:17pm

It's all good, because Pooh is that sort of bear.

79 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:18pm
80 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:22pm

re: #75 Nevergiveup

I think I see a bus coming down the street......

:)

81 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:22pm

re: #76 Alouette

Edvard Munch.

You know Hitler was a painter?

82 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:24pm

re: #75 Nevergiveup

Oh. I hope they don't throw Pooh under the bus.

83 Colin Nelson  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:26pm

Glad to see this story which I linked to LGF this morning has made it to a thread.

On first reading I thought my leg was being pulled right off. But, no.

The thought of this nutball becoming NSA reminds me of the feelings of dread I had when C. Rice was plucked from her Provost job at Stamford to take the NSA job in Bush's first term.

She was a total disaster in that role as we all now well know.

84 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:43:39pm

Are they just begging and pleading with the rest of the world to use us as a doormat?

If Tovarishch Hussein wins, which minor power will be the first to defeat the US in war?

My guess, Haiti annexes Florida.

85 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:44:27pm

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

That's a different book, "The wind in the Willows."

86 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:44:37pm

Piglet will of course have to be omitted from Obama's foreign policy team so as not to offend the umma.

87 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:44:48pm

So - anyone going to sit out this election?

88 phoenixgirl  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:45:09pm

omg his security advisor doesn't wear pants?/

89 EE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:45:15pm

Let's turn our foreign policy and our national security decisions to a kindergarten class.

Oh wait, that's pretty much going to happen, with kidz that are either unable or unwilling to analyze the likely consequences of a proposed decision concerning foreign policy or a proposed decision concerning national security.

These kidz say, with Pooh, if it's different it must be better.

Actually, there was a slogan of the Nazis that assumed this also:
Alles muss anders sein! (Everything must change!)

90 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:45:17pm

re: #87 mama winger

not me

91 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:45:22pm
92 hjalmar80  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:25pm

This was the icing on the cake for me after reading all the other posts from today alone. I'm retiring to bed early tonight, as I've had enough. For my sanity, tonight Denial is a river in Egypt.

93 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:32pm

re: #91 buzzsawmonkey

Disney's 20,000 leagues under the sea had an atomic submarine.

94 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:39pm

These people don't know what they're doing and they don't want to know.

95 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:45pm
"Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security."
--Richard Danzig

No need to wonder what our enemies will think of us with Obama leading us into battle retreat. Winnie the Pooh huh? Wow! Just Wow!

96 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:55pm

I always liked Gopher.
Dug holes everywhere and fell into them most of the time.
Reminds me of BHO now.

97 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:57pm
98 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:46:58pm

re: #89 EE

Let's turn our foreign policy and our national security decisions to a kindergarten class.

Oh wait, that's pretty much going to happen, with kidz that are either unable or unwilling to analyze the likely consequences of a proposed decision concerning foreign policy or a proposed decision concerning national security.

These kidz say, with Pooh, if it's different it must be better.

Actually, there was a slogan of the Nazis that assumed this also:
Alles muss anders sein! (Everything must change!)

Well Carter did confer with his daughter Amy if you remember. I think it was about Nuclear Non Proliferation?

99 mama winger  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:06pm

re: #92 hjalmar80

This was the icing on the cake for me after reading all the other posts from today alone. I'm retiring to bed early tonight, as I've had enough. For my sanity, tonight Denial is a river in Egypt.

Good plan. I'm going to go watch the Cubs game.

goodnight folks

100 Yosemite Bill  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:09pm

So Mr Danzig's highest education level is ? Kindergarten if we are lucky.
If BHO gets elected we are screwed.
Slightly OT but if BHO wins gun sales will rise because we bitter types ain't taking any chances...... .

101 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:31pm

Pooh for NSA, and Piglet for UN Ambassador! Won't the islamists love that?

102 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:40pm
103 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:41pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

A fine movie. Don't make 'em like they used to.

BBL

104 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:44pm

Does this make us the Heffalumps, the scary part of Pooh? Or would that be Iran?

105 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:52pm

Trespassers will......

What the hell kind of bat-shattery is this?

106 talon_262  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:47:55pm

re: #28 unclassifiable

I nominate Yogi Berra for U.S. poet laureate.

Some choice Yogi Berra quotes:
"This is like deja vu all over again."
"You can observe a lot just by watching."
"The future ain't what it used to be."

And, one of the quotes ever:
"It ain't over 'til it's over."

107 brickthruplateglasswindow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:03pm

When it comes to national security as it relates to foreign policy, it is better to be feared than loved. Just sayin'.

Dump the Pooh, embrace the Taz.

108 mikalm  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:05pm

Well, as long as we're letting fictitious ursines guide our national policy, I nominate The Hamm's Beer Bear to head up the ATF!

109 stevieray  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:21pm

re: #41 The Other Les

They haven't seen Apocalypse Pooh.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That is brilliant!

110 jaunte  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:22pm

Danzig talked a lot about how to understand terrorists, but not much about what he would do about them.

111 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:28pm

re: #102 buzzsawmonkey

Everything BHO needed to know he learned in kindergarten.

They have kindergartens in Madrassahs?

112 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:32pm
113 hjalmar80  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:48:41pm

re: #80 mama winger

Pooh can buy some time. He's at the back of the line behind the whole population of Jerusalem.

114 talon_262  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:49:20pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Was Peter Lorre contemplating a crime?

/Al Stewart, The Year of the Cat

115 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:49:23pm
"Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security."
--Richard Danzig

They really are pandering to the democratic electorate, aren't they?

116 pat  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:49:41pm

Is this some kind of joke, with the bees of Hamas or something. And what about the piglet?

117 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:49:53pm

re: #70 guzziguy

Marvin the Martian in charge of NASA?

HEeeeeeeeeeeeeey! I resemble that remark!

118 godfrey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:49:58pm

This strategy might just work if the bear is named Mohammad.

If this is the level of maturity and insight on Obama's staff, he will be laughed off the world stage.

119 reev  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:49:59pm

Oh my goodness.

Its like a really bad joke but one thats going to be real.

120 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:50:11pm

My own policy on terror would include Grand Theft Auto: Anbar Province.

121 Render  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:50:16pm

re: #55 stevieray

Thanks bro!

LATER THAT
SAME TRIP,
R

122 norar  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:50:20pm
the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else.

Well, may be he means that the US should cause much more pain to the terrorists and their supporters. Right?

123 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:50:28pm

re: #106 talon_262

Some choice Yogi Berra quotes:
"This is like deja vu all over again."
"You can observe a lot just by watching."
"The future ain't what it used to be."

And, one of the quotes ever:
"It ain't over 'til it's over."

And: More Yogiisms
[Link: www.rinkworks.com...]

124 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:50:55pm

this is precisely why all jihadis are shilling for b.o. to be elected potus.
they know they will be able to advance unopposed everywhere w/ the fruitcakes and facilitators b.o. will be bringing on board.
outrageous, considering our lives hang in the balance.
this is what these naive assh*les think is appropriate for protecting our country.

125 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:51:12pm

re: #96 SasquatchOnSteroids

I always liked Gopher.
Dug holes everywhere and fell into them most of the time.
Reminds me of BHO now.


...but he's not in the book you know!

126 neocon hippie  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:51:13pm

With the recent SCOTUS decision and the prospect of a Wacky Baracky presidency we are opening ourselves even wider to a large-scale Islamist attack.

127 jaunte  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:51:24pm

We can only defeat the Pooh-flingers by electing a HINO.
/Heffalump in name only

128 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:51:27pm

I love Kuma-no-Pooh-san, as he is called here in Japan, as much as the next adult with a kid`s heart. But precisely because it is a fantasy of perfect interaction and problem solving. The world is unfortunately very different.

Western Liberals have not figured out that it is basically the US Army which makes the world safe for gay marriages, academic freedom and all of the other things they cherish.

129 infidel Alan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:51:31pm

I've always been a fan of Fat Freddy's Cat.

130 talon_262  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:51:59pm

re: #106 talon_262

PIMF...I meant:

And, one of the best quotes ever:
"It ain't over 'til it's over."

131 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:52:34pm

re: #74 jcm

Health Care & The Zen of Motorcycle Maintenance?

Ive never read that. I probably should.

132 Little Boomer  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:52:44pm

Doesn't Danzig know Winnie the Pooh is banned in Turkey due to its anthropomorphic pig? This could foment more Islamic rage.

133 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:53:09pm

re: #128 tokyobk

I love Kuma-no-Pooh-san, as he is called here in Japan, as much as the next adult with a kid`s heart. But precisely because it is a fantasy of perfect interaction and problem solving. The world is unfortunately very different.

Western Liberals have not figured out that it is basically the US Army which makes the world safe for gay marriages, academic freedom and all of the other things they cherish.

Well the United States Navy, Marines, and Air Force may disagree with you, but I get your point.

134 godfrey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:53:15pm

Avoid pain, seek and preserve ... pleasure?

What is this, foreign policy a la Hefner?

135 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:53:26pm

and oh yeah,

Go Lakers!

136 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:53:29pm

re: #132 Little Boomer

Doesn't Danzig know Winnie the Pooh is banned in Turkey due to its anthropomorphic pig? This could foment more Islamic rage.


Someone needs to write him　and tell him to stop being Islamophobic.

137 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:54:02pm

re: #107 brickthruplateglasswindow

When it comes to national security as it relates to foreign policy, it is better to be feared than loved. Just sayin'.

Dump the Pooh, embrace the Taz.

Machiavelli was a crazy ol' sadistic lunatic, but he got a few things right.

138 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:54:08pm

re: #87 mama winger

I might. Oregon doesn't look like it's in play this year. I'll decide closer to the election.

139 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:54:13pm

re: #110 jaunte

Danzig talked a lot about how to understand terrorists, but not much about what he would do about them.

Send them on a wild heffalump chase around and around and around.

Yeah! That's the ticket!

140 Mardukhai  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:54:45pm

re: #81 Nevergiveup

You know Hitler was a painter?

"He was a great painter! He could do a whole house in one afternoon -- two coats!" (With apologies to Mel Brooks)

141 rockdad  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:55:29pm

And the honey pot is your windfall profits, you hardworking capitalists piglets!

//

142 famousmortimer78  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:55:45pm

Obama advisor Richard Danzig: "Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it.”

=if it is causing you too much pain, try something else.

President John F Kennedy: "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."


What would JFK think of Obama?

143 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:56:02pm

re: #133 Nevergiveup

Well the United States Navy, Marines, and Air Force may disagree with you, but I get your point.

m(_ _)m

That is me bowing in apology to the forces you mentioned. Yes, I meant it in the generic but you are right!

144 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:56:43pm
145 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:57:06pm

re: #142 famousmortimer78


What would JFK think of Obama?


Probably as much as the rest of us. Let's see. The Kennedy Space Center is about to be gutted by the Great and Wonderful Ozama.

146 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:57:28pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

And Peter Lorre.

Did someone mention Peter Lorre?

147 jaunte  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:57:37pm

re: #139 Sharmuta

The implication of his comments are that we've so far failed to understand their motivations and the 'root causes' of terrorism;
we may understand them better than he does.

148 EE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:57:38pm

The Obama team is now searching the subway walls for graffiti that might give them a further clue on how to conduct foreign policy, what decisions the Commander-In-Chief should make and how, and what to do about improving national security. If they cannot find any useful graffiti, it's Pooh all the way.

149 Mardukhai  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:58:03pm

And Condi Rice is follows the Tigger philosophy -- Bounce! Bounce! Bounce all over the place, and never get anything done.

150 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:58:07pm

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

Do you have these things in some sort of vault and you pull them out when it's appropriate, or do you just make 'em up on the spot?

151 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:58:35pm

re: #145 Crimsonfisted


Link

152 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:58:55pm

I'd rather have Cartman from South Park than Winnie the Pooh as National Security Advisor.

153 jaunte  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:59:08pm

re: #148 EE

Influenced by some earlier conversations, I read that last phrase "Pooh all the way down."

154 rockdad  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 5:59:43pm

re: #152 NoSubmission

Agreed!

155 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:00:29pm

re: #154 rockdad

Agreed!


Glad somebody agreed with me. I think I'm losing my mind!

156 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:00:55pm
the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh

/it's not so much the heat as it is the stupidity

157 talon_262  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:01:05pm

re: #75 Nevergiveup

I think I see a bus coming down the street......

As many people Obama's thrown/throwing under the bus, he needs to dump the bus altogether and just get Bigfoot, for G-d's sake...

;-P

158 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:01:05pm
159 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:01:40pm

I'd rather trust our security to the one true KING:

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

160 sadhu  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:01:41pm

hard to believe the Democrap Party is running someone worse than Kerry

161 Cognito  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:02:00pm

I really like Winnie the Pooh and Milne, actually.

But geez.

162 unclassifiable  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:02:19pm
/it's not so much the heat as it is the stupidity

If that is not a rotating title it should be.

/I nominate it

163 Big_Iron  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:02:30pm

Hells Bells, if we are going to have comic book characters to run our foreign policy I nominate Sgt. Rock and Easy Company.

164 EE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:02:35pm

I received a letter from the Great One, asking for money. On the donor card it stated: "We are the ones we've been waiting for."

People have interpreted that to mean that Obama is the Messiah. But maybe it just means that Obama is Pooh. Or thinks that he is.

165 godfrey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:02:54pm

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

Hexameter. Commendable. Freer, what?

166 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:03:31pm
167 Render  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:03:40pm

re: #163 Big_Iron

Sgt Fury and his Howling Commandos for second platoon.

AGENT
OF
SHIELD,
R

168 talon_262  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:04:43pm

re: #163 Big_Iron

Hells Bells, if we are going to have comic book characters to run our foreign policy I nominate Sgt. Rock and Easy Company.

"F**kin' A!" - Lawrence, Office Space

169 brickthruplateglasswindow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:05:06pm

re: #152 NoSubmission

I'd rather have Cartman from South Park than Winnie the Pooh as National Security Advisor.

"Respect Mah Authoritah!" should be our new national motto.

170 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:05:21pm

Shit since we are trusting out national security to cartoon characters, then why not vote for this man!

Youtube Video

171 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:05:36pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Well! Really impressive!

172 GoJeepGo  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:05:37pm

I always thought Popeye was a good model... he's comfortable with himself (I yam what I yam), and practices a judicious use of force when necessary (spinach/whoop ass session). And don't forget his service in the Navy!

173 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:05:38pm

America's Homegrown Troop Killers

It's bad enough that Americans are bad-mouthing American troops fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. But an alarming number of Muslim-Americans are plotting to kill them.

It's a story you don't like to hear from the mainstream media: U.S. soldiers increasingly are the prime targets of terrorism, both at home and abroad. And those who want to do them harm include fellow citizens.

Thanks to the anti-war crowd, the trend may only worsen. The ACLU recently pressured the Pentagon to shut down a domestic counterterror unit set up after 9/11 to protect troops and bases.

Oh no, whatever shall we do?

/time to consult with Eeyore I guess

174 Bill Amos  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:06:18pm

Just Poo(h)p

175 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:06:44pm

re: #161 Cognito

I really like Winnie the Pooh and Milne, actually.

But geez.

I adore Pooh, but I would never think to apply the story to world events.

176 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:07:00pm
177 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:07:09pm

re: #172 GoJeepGo

Olive Oil on the other hand is no great beauty

178 Bill Amos  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:07:14pm

Or I should say Barak (H) Obama foreign policy = Just Poo (H) P

179 gman  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:07:23pm

" Pooh," said Rabbit kindly, " You haven't any brain."
" I know," said Pooh humbly.

180 godfrey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:08:02pm

re: #166 buzzsawmonkey

lol -- an Irish street ballad, I see. Let's write "Arab Street Ballads" and publish it in octavo. On second thought, sextodecimo, for furtive reading in Islamabad.

181 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:08:27pm

re: #169 brickthruplateglasswindow

"Respect Mah Authoritah!" should be our new national motto.

And we can put "I Hate Hippies" on the coins, instead of "In God We Trust".

182 godfrey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:08:41pm

re: #175 Sharmuta

Or at least admit to it. What was this poor sot thinking?

183 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:09:56pm

hello, is the spy working at all?

184 gop_patriot  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:09:58pm
In a subtle break from Mr Bush’s belief that the war on terror can be won, Mr Danzig, who is a Pentagon adviser on bioterrorism, warned that while the West can defeat individual terrorist groups and plots, it can never entirely remove the threat posed by nuclear proliferation or the prospect of bioterrorism.

In a briefing which will inform Mr Obama’s understanding of terrorists, Mr Danzig said he learnt much from recent interviews with jailed Aum Shinrikyo terrorists who released sarin nerve gas on the Tokyo underground in 1995.

Ooohhh, God help us.

185 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:10:01pm

Pooh Be Upon Him....

sometimes these things just come to me

186 brickthruplateglasswindow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:10:04pm

Too close I think to Winnie the (pbuh).

187 rockdad  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:10:40pm

re: #163 Big_Iron

Hells Bells, if we are going to have comic book characters to run our foreign policy I nominate Sgt. Rock and Easy Company.

I vote Invader Zim, Sec. of Defense.Waffles

188 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:11:07pm

huh, when I opened the spy, it was totally dead.

did a refresh, then it spied.

IE6, yeah, sorry

189 brickthruplateglasswindow  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:11:16pm

re: #185 OldLineTexan

Pooh Be Upon Him....

sometimes these things just come to me

3 seconds faster.

190 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:11:25pm

re: #163 Big_Iron

Hells Bells, if we are going to have comic book characters to run our foreign policy I nominate Sgt. Rock and Easy Company.


My hero!

*swoon*

191 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:11:45pm

The same people who bitch and moan about Bush's foreign policy think that this guy has any right to be close to a decision making position of power? Figures. Absolutely figures.

192 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:12:35pm

This is interesting:

"The secret to a happy life is never pass up the opportunity to eat, sleep, of gather possible blackmail material."

[Link: freefall.purrsia.com...]

193 DeathtotheSwiss  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:12:44pm

What all of you are failing to realize is that Winnie was an expert at camoflauge and enemy detection. Plus, he was a friggin' bear. Those things are massive and will most likely maul the hell out of you.

194 EE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:13:18pm

Obama's adviser is just making it simple enough for Obama to understand.

Don't forget that Obama is the guy who slept for 20 years through the sermons of Jeremiah Wright, because they weren't done with Winnie the Pooh characters. That's how he missed the fact that Jeremiah Wright was a raving racist anti-American loon.

With President Obama, the daily national security briefing will be done with comic book characters.

195 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:13:38pm

... but the good spy news is that, once it starts spying, the on checkbox seems to work properly to turn it on and off. thanks.

196 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:13:47pm

re: #163 Big_Iron

Hells Bells, if we are going to have comic book characters to run our foreign policy I nominate Sgt. Rock and Easy Company.

I have a vague memory of Sgt. Rock standing on top of a Panzer with a lit stick of dynamite in each hand. Result? Panzer go Boom.

197 kywrite  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:13:54pm

Let the dumbing-down begin -- er, continue!

I always hated Pooh, thought he was a self-centered little pig with far too little brain. Somehow I feel better about that now.

198 rockdad  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:14:24pm

Winnie the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh,... all stuffed with fluff. Just like OB's foreign policy.

199 Totally Berserk  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:14:44pm

OMG!

Doesn't he know how pigs offend Muslims?

We ARE in trouble.

200 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:15:01pm

It's not that bad, if Pooh gets us into trouble, you know we can count on the Care Bears to defeat the terrorists..

201 nihilist  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:15:05pm

As a random side note:
It is awesome how LGF has been able to keep it real. LGF's been around for a while now and is still an invaluable daily resource. To me it's the crowd control, creeping feature set, and the Pearl-Jamesque ability to deliver for the fans and stay on point without getting tired that keeps this site as awesome as it is.

Cue the "Charles in Charge" theme song...

202 ASU86PE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:15:25pm

Did someone mention Peter Lorre

Youtube Video

203 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:15:54pm

re: #170 Nevergiveup

Thanks for that link !

204 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:15:57pm

If Barry had been raised as an Flyover Country American®, he'd have watched more GI Joe cartoons after he outgrew Winnie the Pooh.

Then he'd be talking about sending Snake Eyes after Cobra Commander Osama bin Hidin' instead of Piglet.

205 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:16:50pm

re: #183 itellu3times

refresh.

206 rockdad  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:16:58pm

re: #201 nihilist

Just Say No to Scott Baio!
/Uggghhh

207 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:17:22pm

OT:
This should be an interesting tool to play with. NYS has opened up a database enabling searches of NYS government contracts. You can search by vendor or agency. So far, no sign of Soros directly, but ACORN has a few matches. Most are for tax prep assistance and outreach, nothing that sends up red flags at the moment.

208 nihilist  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:17:34pm

Who can play "Buddy"?

209 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:17:46pm

Marxists to the left of us,
Al Qaeda to the right,
Here we are,
Stuck in the middle with Pooh.

210 EE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:18:17pm

Can you imagine Obama answering the red phone at 3am in the morning? He doesn't have a clue in the world. His motto is: if it's different, it's better. Can you imagine the harm he would cause? It would be like Jimmy Carter's second term.

211 rockdad  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:18:29pm

re: #209 RedWhiteAndJew

Nice!

212 Dianna  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:18:34pm

OT: This is the initial announcement for a combined lizardoid minion-barfly get together on July 26th, 2008.

Email me if you're interested. Be sure you don't use the email for the blog, as it's extremely wonky.

213 guzziguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:18:45pm

Buggs Bunny as Fed Chairman would actually work.

Youtube Video

214 gop_patriot  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:19:04pm

re: #209 RedWhiteAndJew

Awesome.

And entirely, outrageously scary.

215 Dianna  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:19:16pm

re: #212 Dianna

Eeep! It will be in San Jose, California.

216 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:20:11pm

re: #182 godfrey

Or at least admit to it. What was this poor sot thinking?

"Dude, pass the bong"?

217 6pat6  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:21:18pm
Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

Good God, between this asswipe being the possible NSA and retired AF Gen McPeak (his campaign adviser and likely SecDef), i truly pray for our military with worthless piece of shit "leadership: like this as a very real possible outcome of an Obamanation election.

God help us.

218 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:21:55pm

re: #193 DeathtotheSwiss

What all of you are failing to realize is that Winnie was an expert at camoflauge and enemy detection. Plus, he was a friggin' bear. Those things are massive and will most likely maul the hell out of you.


Take a look at that bear up there. I don't think he looks like he's going to maul anyone. He looks like he's doing advertising spots for cottony-soft toilet paper .

219 Sifty  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:22:00pm

I am getting the feeling that our entire country has lost a Super Bowl bet with G-D or something.

Some of this Obamaniac shit is just too bizarre.

220 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:22:19pm

Interesting Pooh link about a military girlfriend:
[Link: www.meganandbradkeating4ever.com...]

221 sngnsgt  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:22:25pm

Poo draws flies.

222 Dianna  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:23:47pm

re: #221 sngnsgt

Be nice to Winnie!

223 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:24:17pm

if libs had their own country, they'd be slaves to allah now.
we really need to defeat these fools.

224 Sifty  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:24:21pm

re: #218 NoSubmission

He looks like the mascot for the 9th District Court.

All respect to the Pooh, but like all other non-entities, he should stay in fantasy land with Harry Reid and the Loch Ness Monster.

225 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:26:12pm
226 6pat6  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:26:15pm

re: #98 Nevergiveup

Well Carter did confer with his daughter Amy if you remember. I think it was about Nuclear Non Proliferation?

I recall that she said "Nuclear war is icky" or something of the like. Enough for Jimmuh to nearly give up the farm to the Soviets.

227 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:26:16pm
re: #209 RedWhiteAndJew

Awesome.

And entirely, outrageously scary.

Thank you. And you're right. It's very very scary.
Sometimes, it feels like we are really and inexorably circling the drain. My only hope is that moments of candid insight into the mentality of Hussein and his cohorts, like this one, shock the mushy middle out of complacency.

228 jones  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:27:14pm

Worked well at Guadalcanal.

/Tojo's cabana boy


Seriously, all the Japanese who thought Americans would never fight must be cursing themselves. They should have waited 68 years and attacked Pearl under Obama.

229 NoSubmission  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:27:43pm

re: #225 buzzsawmonkey
I'll take a walk over there tomorrow morning. Thanks.

Hey, when are we doing lunch/dinner?

230 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:28:21pm

re: #209 RedWhiteAndJew

Marxists to the left of us,
Al Qaeda to the right,
Here we are,
Stuck in the middle with Pooh.

Buzzsaw, now you - how in the heck do you do that so fast?

231 Attaboid  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:28:24pm

Smarter than the average bear!

232 sngnsgt  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:29:40pm

re: #222 Dianna

I didn't mean Winnie, I was referring to... well, you know...

233 Racer X  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:30:09pm

National. Security. Advisor.

And he wants to base his policy on Winnie the Pooh.

Senator John McCain: please resist the urge to swing wildly at this slow pitch. Wait for the right time, and please hit a home run.

Obama and his people are rank amateurs.

234 BBev  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:31:06pm

We are in real trouble if this guy wins. Jimmy Carter anyone! Socialism does not work for me. If Osama wins I will not work 12 hour days six days a week and I will take all the vacations I can fit in, why would I want to bust my ass to have everything taken away for me?

235 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:31:58pm
"If it is causing you too much pain, try something else."

Hmmm. I wonder how many wars are won this way.....

I wonder how many surgeons or dentists base their practice this way....

Hello. Hello. Heeeelloooo.

I think he's still in a coma, doctor.

236 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:33:05pm

Speaking of Winnie the Pooh, who here has perused the Canonical "Bother," said Pooh List.

Some of my personal favorites:

"Bother," said Pooh, as the pin fell out of the grenade.

"Bother," said Pooh, as he chamber his last round.

"Bother," said Pooh, as he recapitulated phylogeny.

"Bother," said Pooh, as Satan laid his soul to waste.

"Bollocks," said Pooh, feeling more forthright than usual.

and of course...

"Bother," said Pooh, as he fell off the prostitute.

237 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:33:48pm

UMM, UMMMMM,, Not sure what else to say, 'cept I have to clean the 7-up off of my screen and keyboard now. I am not sure what an appropriate response to this would be, OH MY GOD! ROFLMAO!

238 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:34:02pm
the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else.

How far the West has come from, "I can promise you nothing but blood, toil, tears, and sweat."

If Churchill had followed this policy, during the Blitz he would have said, "Resisting Germany is causing too much pain. Let's try NOT resisting them!"

I suppose this COULD be good advice if it's taken the right way. Somehow, I don't think this guy is taking it the right way.

239 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:35:55pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

And Peter Lorre.

"Reeck...you deeespise me, don't you."

240 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:36:18pm

I wonder how far that "if it is causing you too much pain, try something else." would have gotten us on D-Day. My mother did not hit France from England until a bit after D-Day, so the only first hand reports I have are from my wife's great aunt's husband. He held his hand up to signal his platoon to advance and a German machine gun got it. Quite the mess. Nothing from my uncle either who the scraped up after the war was done from what was left of his crashed plain "going over the hump" and buried at Arlington. Never got the pleasure of meeting that patriot. Sad to let Mr. Widdle Obama know, but sometimes you do things in pain to get them done. No pain, no gain. Sorry bud, but your if it hurts try something else is the war cry of the coward. If it hurts, then examine the alternatives, and if the current pain justifies the objective keep on if other methods will not get you where you have to go.

The more I think about what this nitwit said, the angrier I get and the more I consider the BO campaign riddled with what can only be charitably described as cowards. They have a smug disrespect for the brave soldiers who are and who have served in our military. To my mind that borders on treason.

241 erisldysnomia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:36:30pm

I had to tell an elderly man in a Jewish restaurant I was in today, who I overheard saying he would vote for Obama and that Bush and Cheyney were "arrogant", that Jews had a knack for being their own worst enemies.

And that the NYT lies.

Guess which statement had greater credibility in this man's eyes?

242 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:37:22pm

re: #236 RedWhiteAndJew

"Bother," said Pooh, as Mahmoud Robin sawed through his jugular with a bit of cracked honeypot.

243 formercorpsman  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:37:26pm
“Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

“If the person you are talking to doesn't appear to be listening, be patient. It may simply be that he has a small piece of fluff in his ear.”

Words of Pooh himself.

244 eaglewingz08  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:38:34pm

No wonder the Obamanation's theme song is Put Down The Bong And Vote For Obama. Seems his NSA people have taken more than one toke over the line.

245 erisldysnomia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:38:47pm

re: #233 Racer X

Obama and his people are rank amateurs.

No, Rush had it right today.

They are rank idiots.

246 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:40:33pm

"Borders" on treason...we keep saying that...it IS treason! And now, thanks to the SCOTUS, if these cowards actually worked up the guts to renounce their citizenship and took up arms for the enemy and got caught, they STILL wouldn't be treated like traitors.

re: #240 Shr_Nfr

I wonder how far that "if it is causing you too much pain, try something else." would have gotten us on D-Day. My mother did not hit France from England until a bit after D-Day, so the only first hand reports I have are from my wife's great aunt's husband. He held his hand up to signal his platoon to advance and a German machine gun got it. Quite the mess. Nothing from my uncle either who the scraped up after the war was done from what was left of his crashed plain "going over the hump" and buried at Arlington. Never got the pleasure of meeting that patriot. Sad to let Mr. Widdle Obama know, but sometimes you do things in pain to get them done. No pain, no gain. Sorry bud, but your if it hurts try something else is the war cry of the coward. If it hurts, then examine the alternatives, and if the current pain justifies the objective keep on if other methods will not get you where you have to go.

The more I think about what this nitwit said, the angrier I get and the more I consider the BO campaign riddled with what can only be charitably described as cowards. They have a smug disrespect for the brave soldiers who are and who have served in our military. To my mind that borders on treason.

247 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:41:37pm

"Bother," said Pooh, as the bartender cut him off.

"Bother," said Pooh, when Christopher Robin showed him the tutu.

"Bother," said Pooh, as he awoke in the ice-filled bathtub.

248 mattm  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:43:38pm

If B. Hussein Obama wins in Nov. we are screwed even more that I suspected.

Look at this article:

LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE: McCain, the Arizona senator, has a significant advantage here.

LIKABILITY: Here's a personality trait where Obama has an advantage. The candidate you'd rather have a beer with often has the edge in elections, and the AP-Yahoo and other polls find Obama significantly more likable than McCain.

THE ISSUES: More think Obama would do better than McCain handling the economy, a CNN- Opinion Research Corp. poll last week showed. Iraq is trickier, even though Obama opposes and McCain supports the unpopular war. The public is about evenly divided over whom they trust more to oversee the conflict, the Pew poll said.

CHANGE: It's almost as if Obama coined that word. Polls show he owns it, and it's what the public wants.

So the morons, I mean, Obama supporters say that McCain has more experience but because of their desire for "Change" and the fact that they like Obama they will vote of Obama. It's like bad High School election where the popular guy wins over the guy who can actually do the job. Except if you don't do the job in this case, people can die.

249 Jito463  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:43:47pm

re: #9 Dar ul Harb

re: #10 Archimedes

re: #11 itellu3times

LOL, that was perfect timing. Especially given the nick of the last poster. :D

"[Link: img263.imageshack.us...]

250 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:44:47pm

maybe they should just go back to sitting in a little chair at a little desk in a quiet corner and read children's books.
and just get the fck out of national politics when evil is on the march and we need a real workable way to combat it and protect our country.

251 Watookal  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:45:24pm

What is more, Winnie the Pooh is Canadian!

252 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:46:23pm

"Bother, eh" said Pooh, as Piglet called him a hoser.

253 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:46:56pm

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, and am too lazy to see, but Winnie cannot be the advisor, I don't think, as the real Winnie the Pooh is actually Canadian!

I hate, loathe and detest what Disney did to Winnie, who is far too smart to hook up with Hussein, to begin with.

/He ought to sue!

254 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:48:21pm
255 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:48:53pm

re: #252 RedWhiteAndJew

"Bother, eh" said Pooh, as Piglet called him a hoser.

"$%#$&^%$#$!" said Pooh, as he cracked Piglet across the jaw with his fifth empty Molsen's bottle.

256 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:49:57pm

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

Winnie the Pooh is Kennedyan?

I must have missed "The Car Accident at Pooh Bridge."

Oh, the rain rain rain came splashing down
In rashing rushing rivlets
It crept right into poor Poohs' car
And drowned his little Piglet

257 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:50:16pm

re: #70 guzziguy

Marvin the Martian in charge of NASA?

Excuse me? Not under Obambi.

258 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:50:59pm

re: #257 Mars Needs Neocons

Excuse me? Not under Obambi.

Psssst...Obama is blocking yer view of Venus, Doc.

259 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:51:20pm

Sooooo... when does Lieberman found the "New non-communist Democrat Party"?
Just wondering...
There's a reason I've been referring to them as democwacks...

Good grief Charles... can the whole thing get any worse? Like when does he endorse the great pumpkin as a new holiday icon?

260 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:51:36pm

re: #162 unclassifiable

If that is not a rotating title it should be.

/I nominate it

second

261 Jito463  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:52:29pm

You know, if Bush had said this, the media would be all over it, calling him an idiot and worse (Olbermann comes to mind in this regards). Remember how many tried to claim that Bush had the book upside down at that school on September 11th? Yet an Obama 'disciple' says it, and it's just interesting news.

262 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:52:59pm

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

Winnie the Pooh is Kennedyan?

I must have missed "The Car Accident at Pooh Bridge."

Yup. Bet you could write something about 'the car accident' in 10, 9, 8, 7.........

263 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:53:03pm

re: #258 OldLineTexan

Psssst...Obama is blocking yer view of Venus, Doc.

I have a solution for that.

264 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:53:13pm

re: #259 anotherindyfilmguy

I thought he was being vetted for vice-president?

265 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:56:02pm

Democwack, one hit and you're stuck on stupid...

266 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:56:07pm

it appears that Mr. Danzig found thinking clearly and realistically to be painful, so he stopped doing that.....

(too bad he doesn't feel the same way about public speaking. %-)

267 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:56:20pm

re: #264 Shr_Nfr

Nah... to smart...

268 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:57:21pm

re: #258 OldLineTexan

Psssst...Obama is blocking yer view of Venus, Doc.

given where his head is, he'll never see Uranus. %-)

269 Glackinspeil  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:58:45pm

Pooh will be under the bus with granny et al by this time tomorrow night.

270 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:58:56pm

re: #259 anotherindyfilmguy

Sooooo... when does Lieberman found the "New non-communist Democrat Party"?
Just wondering...
There's a reason I've been referring to them as democwacks...

Good grief Charles... can the whole thing get any worse? Like when does he endorse the great pumpkin as a new holiday icon?

Are you saying you don't believe in the Great Pumpkin?

271 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:59:18pm

re: #160 sadhu

hard to believe the Democrap Party is running someone worse than Kerry

and they had to sink pretty low to get under *that* bar........

(but they managed! %-)

272 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 6:59:57pm

By the way, MY strategy as National Security Adviser would be to bounce all over our enemies.

273 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:00:41pm

Suuure... Obamasama's like Kennedy...
Minus the "experience" and "judgement" that nearly got Kennedys command's PT boat crew killed when he disobeyed standing orders and then neeeearly, but only neeeearly got us into a nuclear war with the CCCP...
yargle...

274 Glackinspeil  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:01:13pm

re: #272 Tigger2005

By the way, MY strategy as National Security Adviser would be to bounce all over our enemies.

As a marsupial, you would be haram. Or in this case...harumph

275 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:01:42pm

re: #274 Glackinspeil

As a marsupial, you would be haram. Or in this case...harumph

Tigger is a marsupial?

276 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:02:01pm

re: #275 Tigger2005

Tigger is a marsupial?

(Looks for pouch)

277 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:02:18pm
By the way, MY strategy as National Security Adviser would be to bounce all over our enemies.

That's what National Security Advisers do best!

278 Glackinspeil  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:02:35pm

re: #275 Tigger2005

Oops...must be drunk. Got Tigger and Kanga/roo confused.

279 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:02:49pm

re: #276 Tigger2005

(Looks for pouch)

Good heavens! There's a little Tigger in there! I'm not the only one anymore!

280 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:04:31pm

re: #270 Tigger2005

Reserving my beliefs for the mind crime trials if obamamamessiah gets elected and begins the "great raid on the honey jar" while declaring peace everywhere and abandoning to horrible death, doom and gloom those whom we worked so hard to protect... sort of a democrack tradition since the Vietnam War era now that I think of it...

281 Glackinspeil  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:05:03pm

re: #279 Tigger2005

Well... you could be a Tasmanian Tigger. That would make you a marsupial. I just assumed....

282 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:05:14pm

re: #273 anotherindyfilmguy

I voted for JFK, and was pregnant with my first when he was assassinated.

Using his name in the same sentence with Hussein, and spitting on his grave? Despicable.

Were you alive when JFK was in office?

283 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:06:36pm

This is a joke right?

284 Three Hundred  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:08:18pm

re: #199 Totally Berserk

OMG!

Doesn't he know how pigs offend Muslims?

We ARE in trouble.

Piglette is next under the bus.

285 Glackinspeil  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:08:31pm

Tasmanian Tigger

286 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:08:46pm

re: #283 Typicalwhitey

This is a joke right?

An Obama Presidency might actually make Jimmy Carter look tough.

287 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:09:46pm

re: #285 Glackinspeil

Tasmanian Tigger

Now that sucker looks like it could chew some serious ass.

288 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:10:12pm

re: #283 Typicalwhitey

Probably not.

289 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:12:17pm

re: #286 Tigger2005

An Obama Presidency might actually make Jimmy Carter look tough.

There is nothing on this earth that could ever make Carter look good or tough. Nothing.

And McCain will win. Not perfect, but the only choice.

290 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:12:57pm

re: #286 Tigger2005

Might? At this point, he would look more like Reagan. ( sorry, that was painful to say)

291 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:17:38pm

re: #282 NY Nana
With all due respect for your purported age all I ever heard was what the myth of Kennedy. If Kennedy never was the great hero he was portrayed as. Being old enough to be duped by the MSM back then and traumatized by his assassination doesn't change the cold hard facts.

If you really want to know where the obomatons are coming from look in the mirror because they are a repeat of history with the complicit support of the MSM to make a giant out of one not so even half as deserving. The only, only difference is that we have the internet for information...

Sorry... forgot one:
With even less long term vision t, who considers the space program a waste that should be canceled...

292 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:18:29pm

PIMF:
Kennedy was never the myth he was created to be for the public to consume.

293 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:18:49pm

"Bother," said Pooh, as the terrorist nuclear weapon vaporized the Hundred-Acre Wood.

294 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:19:49pm

Anyone else think the telegraph reported this as if it was.. well.. cotton candy?

295 JSK1121  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:19:57pm

All I have to say is: Where the hell are we going to move if this nut gets elected?

296 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:22:32pm

re: #285 Glackinspeil

Tasmanian Tigger

i think that's a tasmanian wolf.
the american museum of natural history had the last one ever taken from the wild. it was stuffed and on display. what an amazing creature. a marsupial carnivore that ruled tasmania for millions of yrs. there have been a few sightings of these animals, the marsupial wolf, marsupial tiger. nothing pans out. they are extinct.

297 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:23:33pm

re: #291 anotherindyfilmguy

Sorry... forgot one:
With even less long term vision t, who considers the space program a waste that should be canceled...

Not me.

298 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:24:54pm

re: #297 Tigger2005

Osamabama's already said he'd cut NASA funding to next to nothing as soon as he can... it was about a month ago.

299 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:27:11pm

re: #291 anotherindyfilmguy

With all due respect for your purported age all I ever heard was what the myth of Kennedy.

I was born 20 January, 1938. Can you do the math?

I would no more vote for a POS like Hussein than I would vote for a nazi.

The 'myth of Kennedy'? Puhleeze.

Welcome to my scroll past list.

300 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:27:12pm

Well, this explains the lack of action after the USS Cole was bombed. This absolute idiot was secretary of the Navy. I guess Pooh did not have a game plan, and Luke Skywalker was off planet at the time. No wonder.

301 Mich-again  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:29:30pm

George Soros must be Christopher Robin.

302 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:30:30pm

re: #296 nyc redneck

i think that's a tasmanian wolf.
the american museum of natural history had the last one ever taken from the wild. it was stuffed and on display. what an amazing creature. a marsupial carnivore that ruled tasmania for millions of yrs. there have been a few sightings of these animals, the marsupial wolf, marsupial tiger. nothing pans out. they are extinct.

I actually had hopes otherwise. However even Steve Irwin didn't find any.

There have been sightings in some less settled areas on the mainland, and on some of the islands, so maybe there is still a chance.

They were supposed to attempt cloning one someday.

303 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:31:03pm

re: #302 Mars Needs Neocons

I actually had hopes otherwise. However even Steve Irwin didn't find any.

There have been sightings in some less settled areas on the mainland, and on some of the islands, so maybe there is still a chance.

They were supposed to attempt cloning one someday.

Oh and I'm talking about the tiger, not the wolf.

304 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:31:26pm

re: #299 NY Nana

I was born 20 January, 1938. Can you do the math?

I would no more vote for a POS like Hussein than I would vote for a nazi.

The 'myth of Kennedy'? Puhleeze.

Welcome to my scroll past list.

No problem. Being old and convinced of an opinion doesn't make you correct in your assessment.
Cheers etc.

305 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:32:11pm

re: #296 nyc redneck

i think that's a tasmanian wolf.
the american museum of natural history had the last one ever taken from the wild. it was stuffed and on display. what an amazing creature. a marsupial carnivore that ruled tasmania for millions of yrs. there have been a few sightings of these animals, the marsupial wolf, marsupial tiger. nothing pans out. they are extinct.

And actually that was Benjamin the last surviving Tasmanian Tiger. Died in 1936.

306 Syrah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:33:01pm

OK.

That does it.

More Tequila.

. . .

307 Syrah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:36:31pm

re: #301 Mich-again

George Soros must be Christopher Robin.

George Soros' real secret identity.

308 BingoBunny  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:37:05pm

It's about time imperalist Cookie Moster got what is coming to him..

309 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:38:16pm

re: #307 Syrah

George Soros' real secret identity.

Damn straight.

310 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:39:57pm

re: #307 Syrah

There is not enough Tequila for this.

311 esch  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:43:38pm

So can we start calling him 'pooh-for-brains'?

312 Syrah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:46:18pm

re: #310 CapeCoddah

There is not enough Tequila for this.

I am willing to put that to the test.

313 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:46:35pm
314 6pat6  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:53:40pm

The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things
Their bottoms are made out of rubber
Their tops are made out of springs
They're bouncy, bouncy, flouncy, flouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun!
And the most wonderful about Tiggers
Is I'm the only one!
I'mmmmmm the only one!

Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo hoo!

315 erisldysnomia  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 7:59:30pm

Can we prepare for Impeachment Proceedings, to be deployed after the next Obama-recklessness-caused 9/11?

316 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:11:16pm

re: #305 Mars Needs Neocons

And actually that was Benjamin the last surviving Tasmanian Tiger. Died in 1936.

i love looking at that stuffed marsupial wolf creature at the natural history museum. i am transfixed by it. an incredible species gone now from the earth in our lifetime. what an odd group of mammals that paralleled placental mammals and radiated into every available niche.
how abt. that whacky tasmanian devil. that is an angry little hell raiser. still going strong because of it's personality. tho i did hear that there is some kind of virus threatening them now.
i hope they can clone the marsupial wolf and tiger.

317 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:15:55pm

re: #316 nyc redneck

i love looking at that stuffed marsupial wolf creature at the natural history museum. i am transfixed by it. an incredible species gone now from the earth in our lifetime. what an odd group of mammals that paralleled placental mammals and radiated into every available niche.
how abt. that whacky tasmanian devil. that is an angry little hell raiser. still going strong because of it's personality. tho i did hear that there is some kind of virus threatening them now.
i hope they can clone the marsupial wolf and tiger.

You hit on one thing there that has always fascinated me. With so many animals in the world so similar, and then we find an entire system based on variant marsupial evolution, is just absolutely amazing as far as I'm concerned.

318 Timbre  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:25:22pm

Seventeen Jihadis died somewhere today, laughing themselves to death after hearing of Adviser Pooh.

319 RTLM  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:28:19pm

My preferred approach to foreign policy:

[Link: tasmaniantimes.com...]

320 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:32:52pm

re: #317 Mars Needs Neocons

i couldn't agree more. i am so excited abt. the parallel evolution of marsupial and placental mammals. i think it's abt. a law of nature. marsupials would not have made it if there had been any placental mammals competing w/ them. but because they were isolated and able to live and reproduce and survive we see that they followed the same evolutionary path as the placental mammals.
carnivores, herbivores, insectivores, omnivores. all of the niches were filled.
it is fascinating to me to see nature unfold in such a predictable way no matter who is playing the game.

321 Timbre  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:34:12pm

I say Obama should put this woman in charge of capturing terrorists.

322 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:34:49pm

re: #320 nyc redneck

i couldn't agree more. i am so excited abt. the parallel evolution of marsupial and placental mammals. i think it's abt. a law of nature. marsupials would not have made it if there had been any placental mammals competing w/ them. but because they were isolated and able to live and reproduce and survive we see that they followed the same evolutionary path as the placental mammals.
carnivores, herbivores, insectivores, omnivores. all of the niches were filled.
it is fascinating to me to see nature unfold in such a predictable way no matter who is playing the game.

And how did the americas wind up with only one marsupial?

323 Timbre  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:35:15pm

Well, at least she'd kill a few of them...right?

324 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:36:21pm

re: #122 norar

Well, may be he means that the US should cause much more pain to the terrorists and their supporters. Right?

norar -

You gotta be kidding - more like:

YO DANZIG -

NO HUNNY 4 U - Winnie

-S-

325 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:36:48pm

it is the force behind evolution and why i believe it to be irrefutable up to the big bang theory. i would love to get the answers to what preceded that tho.
the sooner the better.

326 Wendya  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:39:28pm

re: #291 anotherindyfilmguy

Being old enough to be duped by the MSM back then and traumatized by his assassination doesn't change the cold hard facts.

Uh-oh.... if you try and point out Kennedy wasn't the savior of America, you'll be treated as if you urinated on the grave of Elvis.

327 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:40:41pm

re: #322 Mars Needs Neocons

i think we might have had more. the o'possum is the only one that survived.
marsupials didn't last long when the modern mammals came in. they couldn't compete.

328 Mambo Bananapatch  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:50:32pm

I've spent the better part of 10 years immersed in right-wing thinking. Before that I was not particularly interested in politics one way or another.

Recently, I've decided that I need some balance. After all, when you only expose yourself to one point of view, it's easy to lose perspective. So I've tried to keep an open mind, and explore some left-wing thinking.

Then I read stuff like this: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

Then I think, no, there are some ideas that an intelligent person shouldn't be open to; that it is possible, and desirable, to keep an open mind, but that it is equally desirable to prevent your mind from being polluted by insane garbage.

And if consulting Winnie the Pooh when formulating foreign policy isn't insane, then there is no such thing as insanity.

329 tommygum  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 8:53:12pm

re: #163 Big_Iron

Hells Bells, if we are going to have comic book characters to run our foreign policy I nominate Sgt. Rock and Easy Company.

And Gunner and Sarge!

330 stevieray  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:02:57pm

The lefty foreign policy of soft power has many glaring weaknesses, the biggest being that it can only work if the other guy already thinks like you do... but that would mean there is no real pressing need for a foreign policy to begin with.

331 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:04:58pm

re: #327 nyc redneck

i think we might have had more. the o'possum is the only one that survived.
marsupials didn't last long when the modern mammals came in. they couldn't compete.

Quite possible. Oddly enough though, I haven't read anything about a marsupial fossil record in the US. (though to be honest I haven't really looked)

332 Miss Molly  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:09:44pm

With both the Obamas casual air of arrogance and superiority they seem to convey the attitude that most Americans are somewhat stupid compared to themselves. And this is what they come up with -- Winnie the Pooh as Commander of Foreign Policy and who knows what else.

333 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:17:51pm

re: #306 Syrah

OK.

That does it.

More Tequila.

. . .

mas tequila?

334 lazlo  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:20:36pm

Great sound bite. No substance unfortunately - Just an random runaway metaphor that says nothing about actual policy. Not that this person can or even will actually make policy.

Tired. Keep digging.

335 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:21:29pm

re: #312 Syrah

I am willing to put that to the test.

i'll help out too.....

/making it a doubles blind drunk test %-)

336 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:21:36pm

Let it rain
Who cares
I've got a train
Upstairs
With a brake
That I make
From a String
Sort of thing
That works in jerks
when it stops with the string
And the wheels all stick
so quick
that it feels like a thing
that you make with a brake
Not string.

So that's what I do
When the days all wet.
It's a good sort of break
But it hasn't worked yet.

--A.A. Milne

337 Paul  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:24:25pm

When it comes to foreign policy I prefer "Calvin and Hobbes".

338 pegcity  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:25:35pm

head in the honey pot? i don't get it

339 Syrah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:31:35pm

re: #335 redc1c4

i'll help out too.....

/making it a doubles blind drunk test %-)

Doing Tequila and Dr. Pepper here.

My spelling skills have gone strait into the crapper.

Thank the software makers for spell checker.

340 hume  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:31:54pm

Few issues back Buchanan's American Conservative tried a "Tolkien approach" to int'l relations. There are only so many types of crazy.

341 brainwizard73  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:35:09pm

Don't know if anyone is left here...but I thought this was a fun thought...

Imagine if Tim Russert were still around and he had Winnie the Pooh on MTP...

Mr. Pooh, you admit that you took honey that wasn't yours...your words Mr. Pooh.
Well, Tim, you've never been to the hundred acre wood...you see.
Mr. Pooh, you took the honey.
Yes, well, Tim, you don't understand...

342 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:39:58pm

re: #334 lazlo

Great sound bite. No substance unfortunately - Just an random runaway metaphor that says nothing about actual policy. Not that this person can or even will actually make policy.

Tired. Keep digging.

your optimism is touching........

or is that delusion? ....... your whopping two poasts are both defending the Obamanation. you should have been more subtle.

/green smoke out

blood
in
the
water

343 brainwizard73  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:42:30pm

re: #334 lazlo

Birds of a feather, chief.

So, if someone in John McCain's campaign compared the philosophy of McCain on foreign policy to the Teletubbies, that would be a big yawn, too?

344 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:44:42pm

re: #337 Paul

When it comes to foreign policy I prefer "Calvin and Hobbes".

i was thinking Pearls Before Swine, with Rat as NSA, and Duck as SecDef......

345 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:46:44pm

re: #339 Syrah

Doing Tequila and Dr. Pepper here.

My spelling skills have gone strait into the crapper.

Thank the software makers for spell checker.

George Strait?

good song to get tequila maudlin on...... %-)

346 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:48:14pm

re: #343 brainwizard73

Birds of a feather, chief.

So, if someone in John McCain's campaign compared the philosophy of McCain on foreign policy to the Teletubbies, that would be a big yawn, too?

do a quick search on his two posts..... i smell gamey buttocks. %-)

347 brainwizard73  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:52:05pm

re: #346 redc1c4

I see a pattern devloping there. Probably should schedule some non-invasive surgery to remove it.

348 kynna  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:58:14pm

Actually, this might be a stroke of genius. Our enemies have already shown they're terrified of Piglet.

Very clever, Danzig. Very clever indeed.

:D

349 Asylum Aleikum  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 9:58:53pm

Everything I need to know about the national security I learned in kindergarden.

350 ASU86PE  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:01:14pm

re: #240 Shr_Nfr

Thank you.

351 Godwrestler  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:04:51pm

Welcome to "the Bizarro world".... Umm I meant US Democratic Party 2008

352 Bosch Fawstin  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:15:31pm

Winnie the Pooh?! Ridiculous. Piglet, less so. If Obama was serious, he'd consider you know who.

353 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:35:19pm

At least Winnie the Pooh ain't no Paper Tigger.
/sarc

354 anubis_soundwave  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:37:01pm

re: #89 EE

Let's turn our foreign policy and our national security decisions to a kindergarten class.

Oh wait, that's pretty much going to happen, with kidz that are either unable or unwilling to analyze the likely consequences of a proposed decision concerning foreign policy or a proposed decision concerning national security.

These kidz say, with Pooh, if it's different it must be better.

Actually, there was a slogan of the Nazis that assumed this also:
Alles muss anders sein! (Everything must change!)

= = =

1. I don't think Pooh, Tigger or Rabbit would like the fact that Piglet was left out of the fun because of ISLAM. Just going off Disney's The Adventures of Winnie the Pooh series. Never read the A. A. Milne books as a kid.

2. At this rate, I'd elect a class of smart kindergartners over our current crop of adults. My nephew's a sharp first-grader to be. His little brother consults Tigger at least once a week. (this kid's one.)

3. If politicians REALLY want a children's book that can actually apply to the adult world, they ought to consider the wisdom of: The Phantom Tollbooth.

Aside from Milo's ennui, the primary difference between said protagonist and President Bush: the president acted against the demons of Ignorance even after the different nabobs of Dictionopolis and Digitopolis in our world informed him that IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE. He did it anyway--and now fifty million people are free of Evil Dictator B. (thus freeing Rhyme and Reason from the Castle in the Air once again) Imagine(take that word back!) if the nabobs hadn't told him that (per the story).

Even now, we're still dealing with Gelatinous Giants, Senses Takers and that nasty Terrible Trivium--a blank-faced, smooth talker who always distracts you with meaningless detrius right when there's a real crisis to be dealt with.

Having noted the above, I'd instead recommend that we expand our reading past Winnie. He has yet to figure out that he shouldn't steal HUNNY from bees.

/has read Norton Juster's The Phantom Tollbooth cover-to-cover many times: as a kid and as an adult. great book; no sarc.

355 Syrah  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 10:48:05pm

re: #354 anubis_soundwave

The Phantom Toll Booth is a great book.

356 arier_tzvi  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 11:11:14pm

Unfortunately winnie the pooh is a Canadian Icon. The Liberals up here didnt do much of anything. Then Canadians voted in the PC's Change for the good as far as I can see. But please dont pick on Winnie.

and an FYI the author of winnie the pooh got that from visiting winnipeg manitoba.

I wont be in lgf chat. this is my stupid back up machine. I had a total hard drive failure on my other machine.

357 tradewind  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 11:18:41pm

Re Obama's Pooh-obsessed advisor:

The more they show
(Tiddly Pom)
How little they know
(Tiddly Pom)
From suck to blow
(tiddly pom)
They're going.

358 anubis_soundwave  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 11:35:17pm

re: #204 OldLineTexan

If Barry had been raised as an Flyover Country American®, he'd have watched more GI Joe cartoons after he outgrew Winnie the Pooh.

Then he'd be talking about sending Snake Eyes after Cobra Commander Osama bin Hidin' instead of Piglet.

Yo, Joe. In all (semi-)seriousness, if you take away the Village People gear on some of them, isn't GI Joe just a mild, affectionate caricature of the US Armed Forces? You have Army, some Navy (incl. a Navy SEAL or two), a few Air Force, and two Marines--and Cutter (Skip A. Stone) of the Coast Guard. (He insisted. Everyone forgets the Coast Guard.)

Senator Obama could have used a dose of Transformers: the REAL Movie, too. You watched G1 as a kid, got to know all the characters. 1986: you watch the movie, only to watch everyone you loved--from Ironhide to Optimus Prime himself DIE w/n the first fifteen minutes. And that's after watching a robot planet literally devour an entire civilization.

War sucks, but Unicron and Galvatron still have to be stopped. (That, and HASBRO has to sell the New Toys.)

Even My Little Pony had to fight the forces of darkness in their world. Rainbow Brite, too.

But I date myself as an Eighties Kid. Obama and crew just don't get it. Those of my generation who remember President Reagan as that nice old man who interrupted our Saturday Morning cartoons with "Just Say No To Drugs" PSAs had to sit through this: Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue.

And this: Silverhawks - Mon * Star's transformation. As well as this from the same animation studio: The Ever...LIVING...!

After those shaped my childhood and tweenhood--little of reality could surprise me anymore.

/obvious Transformers fan and general cartoon fan. besides, if Obama's not going to take his job seriously, I won't take his campaign seriously. :b All I can do, in the end, is my level best to NOT elect him.

359 yesandno  Tue, Jun 17, 2008 11:36:20pm

Well....anything the Dems are involved in will quickly become known as "Whiney" the Pooh....or Whiney is full of Pooh....

And Piglet will no doubt be an ambassador of good will to what Muslim country, exactly?

360 Orion  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 12:29:57am

In a blatant plug for my post, while following in Charles' of LGF's footsteps, I found the list for Obama's cabinet hidden within their website - complete with picture!
[Link: blog-in-the-box.blogspot.com...]

Click on over and see Obama's choices which demonstrate his commitment to Hope, Change, and the mentality that Winnie-The-Pooh should be a fundamental text for Foreign Policy.

Orion

361 anubis_soundwave  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 1:26:35am

re: #360 Orion

Of those:

Bugs, GI Joe, Scrooge McDuck, Inspector Gadget and Speedy Gonzalez may stay. The rest must go.

Gadget may be incompetent, but he still foils MAD. The US Armed Forces ARE GI Joe already. (if you read my ill-updated blog, you'd realize we're in the middle of THE MOVIE.) Bugs is dependent on which director is handling him: Freleng, Clampett or Jones. Speedy Gonzalez, in addition to being legal, is actually a hard worker (compared to his lackadaisical compadres).

Scrooge McD? Senator Obama needs all the economic policy strength he can get. Mr. Magoo ain't cutting it--he only played Scrooge once in a Christmas Carol movie. Not only did McDuck play Scrooge in Disney's version, he's a star of film, comic books and TV. And he's the richest duck in the world. Even the (by comic fans) "heavily softened" Duck Tales version of him would be a good choice.

I am amazed that Obama was able to draw that much animated talent. I was expecting Barney and Planet(blegh!) but not actual contenders.

Bugs and Gadget should flee Obama's campaign and make their own run. Bugs has a record as a patriot(though the crossdressing and blackface remain issues), and Gadget's ALWAYS ON DUTY--even after the death of Don Adams (actor who also played Maxwell Smart on the TV show).

There are also some missing individuals. Where's Elmo? Oscar the Grouch, Big Bird? Even Yahoo! was able to locate Big Bird.

/a bit of Obama-inspired levity.

362 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:46:48am

Modern Liberalism is to traditional religion as "The Tao of Pooh," by Benjamin Hoff, is to U.S. foreign policy, by Barack Obama.

363 nadadhimmi  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:58:26am

re: #8 Kosh's Shadow

I think the Obamanation's foreign policy can be summed up in one word:
Surrender.

Submission. Submission to Allah like all good mus lims is what BO will require. The guy was born and raised muslim, attended a madrassa and was very devout by his own brothers admission. Why didn't we elect a Nazi during WW2?, ANSWER: because the nation wasn't insane at that time. I'm not ready to bow and scrape 5 times daily to the memory of a murderous pedophile like the perverted mohammed. FUCK I-SLAM. The democrats never saw a pedophile they didn't love. Bernie Ward anyone?

364 Hard Right  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:13:41am
Richard Danzig, who served as Navy Secretary under President Clinton....

That's all that needs to be said. Clinton only appointed like minded incompetents and guilty liberals (see richard clarke).

365 Hard Right  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:17:00am

BTW, HERE COMES THE BUS!

366 ethanxxx  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:35:15am

Hussein Obama's Sr. Foreign Policy Advisor Susan Rice demonstrates reason 1,467 as too why these *&^#*@$ pieces of $#!+ shouldn't be allowed any where near the White House. Anyone who considers these Anti-American Marxist Children as "Competent" to run the country, shouldn't be allowed to drive, let alone vote.

STUPID

As usual, this Progressive C*** gives no solutions or alternatives, just the basic, "George Bush is Stupid" line, that indicates that she has no real clue as to what is going on. If these... "Progressives" (what a joke) win in November, this country isn't screwed... it's F**KED!

367 eaglewingz08  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:35:21am

There are so many children's books that could be better war policy than Winnie the Pooh. The Harry Potter series, the Star Trek series, the Tolkien series, the Narnia series, the Star Wars series. How do you in any right mind come up with Winnie the Pooh. How was this clown not laughed off the stage and into retirement for this statement?
What next, the foreign policy lessons from Barney?

368 mobaby  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:39:53am

I suggest they carry this theme throughout the entire campaign - make costumes, really live it out:

Christopher Robin = President Obama
Tigger = Vice President
Winnie the Pooh = National Security Adviser
Piglet = Ambassador to the UN
Owl = Secretary of Education
Rabbit = Secretary of Agriculture
Eeyore = Motivational Speech Writer
Kanga = Secretary of Transportation

369 clydejumper  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:46:45am

Boy I thought the Peter Pan Syndrome was bad with the Clinton's. Now we have Daffy Duck (BHO) and his lovely first lady Donald Duck. NSA Winnie the Pooh. Next the USA will become "Never Land"

Okay I need to wake up now, oops I am awake.

370 anubis_soundwave  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 7:08:11am

re: #369 clydejumper

I wish she were Donald Duck. Then she'd be proud of our country more often.

And Peter Pan fought off pirates who threatened various parts of Never Land. Why do you think Capt. Hook HAS a hook?

/Donald: temperamental, but a patriot selling war bonds right along with Bugs.

371 docremulac  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 8:16:10am

Reminds me of Carter asking his little daughter her opinion on nuclear weapons policy then bragging about it to the press.

I know I shouldn't repeat myself, but deep down progressives are nasty little children throwing a lifelong tantrum.

372 Alone in NY  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 8:34:14am

Barry O is a fraud.

373 Goody  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:14:19am

Danzig was a partner of mine at Latham & Watkins. He was always a fun speaker with clever little quips like this. What's remarkable is not his cute metaphor, but the underlying concept that if a foreign policy decision causes you "pain" you should change the policy. Gee, WWII was pretty painful, so we should have packed up and headed for home? Obama is going to get elected, and I'm scared.

374 gmsc  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:52:33am

Is it OK to use his middle name, or do we now have to call him Winnie Pooh?

375 Daisy  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:23:28am

Winnie's friend, Piglet, has been banned in public places in England - if you can call a private work-desk in a corporate office or privately owned department stores, pubs, etc. "public" - so as not to 'insult' those intent upon destroying Western culture.

I wonder what the Obamas have to say about that policy move?

376 joan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:34:51am

Oh this is fantastic! Now, are we savvy enough to make use of it? This ought to be trumpeted and shouted from bullhorns. Change: BAck to the Days of Christopher Robin! Piglet for Veep! Eeyore to End War, Tigger Pounces, Bounces for Alternative Energy...

377 joan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:36:38am

re: #375 Daisy

Winnie's friend, Piglet, has been banned in public places in England - if you can call a private work-desk in a corporate office or privately owned department stores, pubs, etc. "public" - so as not to 'insult' those intent upon destroying Western culture.

I wonder what the Obamas have to say about that policy move?

Oh my God in Heaven--are you frigging serious?

That is an outrage. Piglet Rules, he's British for crying out loud. England Fell Without a Shot Fired.

378 joan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:44:57am

re: #11 itellu3times

Oh bother.

pesky mushroom clouds...

379 joan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 12:01:27pm

re: #372 Alone in NY

Barry O is a fraud.

and a Puppet.

380 Joan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 12:15:21pm

re: #34 mama winger

We are so screwed.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE FIND A GROWN UP IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY before they kill us all ?

Amen.

381 EE  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 12:31:54pm

re: #373 Goody

Danzig was a partner of mine at Latham & Watkins. He was always a fun speaker with clever little quips like this. What's remarkable is not his cute metaphor, but the underlying concept that if a foreign policy decision causes you "pain" you should change the policy. Gee, WWII was pretty painful, so we should have packed up and headed for home? Obama is going to get elected, and I'm scared.

You're right. The meaning is that we should have no tolerance for pain. And the other part of that is that we should seek to appease our foes, so that they don't cause us pain. In other words, it's a plan to surrender.

382 84fiero  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 1:05:03pm

This is great news! I've been waiting for a President who will FINALLY take care of all the Hephalumps and Woozles.

383 clydejumper  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 1:21:45pm

re: #370 anubis_soundwave

My point is that we live in the real world not the land of make believe. Seems BHO wants everything to be a happy joy joy place and live in unreality.

384 Fasternu426  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:01:17pm

Obama makes Neville Chamberlain look like Vlad the Impaler...

385 anubis_soundwave  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 5:12:37pm

re: #383 clydejumper

Relax; I understand your point. It's just that from this, Obama--or at least the people he chooses to surround himself with--live(s) in "Care-A-Lot", so to speak. No sense that bad people exist in the world to wipe us out of existence merely for being.

Yet there are certain conservatives who believe in equally dangerous fantasies: one of a New Reagan emerging from the chaos in 2012.

Now don't get me wrong: I know that we Americans are resilient--we can survive anything. I'd just rather not have to endure another catastrophe if it can be avoided. McCain's our ticket out of La La Land.

Put his feet to the fire when he's in the big chair at 1600 Penn. Ave. Field stronger conservatives for the next battle in 2012.


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