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Science in Zero G

Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:48:08 pm PDT

An LGF reader emailed a batch of great photos, along with an account of his trip aboard the Discovery Institute’s Zero G plane.

Oops! Did I say “Discovery Institute?” I meant, “SpaceTEC.”

A few months ago I was selected as one of only 75 scientists, engineers, and technicians to take a new course in Microgravity. This course was created, with a grant from the Florida Job Authority and taught by SpaceTEC, to help aerospace workers understand the microgravity environment and to give us extra training to help us obtain new employment once the Shuttle program ends in 2010. We spent 2 weeks in class learning about microgravity, or more commonly known as “Zero Gravity”. Last Sunday we flew on ZeroG and got to float like an astronaut in microgravity. This plane does parabolas like NASA’s infamous “Vomit Comet”. No, I did not even get queasy.

It’s nothing like I’ve ever experienced before. I’ve jumped off things, jumped out of planes 15,000 feet up (nearly 3 miles), swam underwater, rode rollercoaster’s, etc and nothing I’ve experienced can come close to describe what it’s like to float in microgravity. It was a once in a lifetime experience.

At one time I got trapped in the middle of the plane. I couldn’t reach the walls or ceiling or floor. All I could do was float and flail around in vain. It was pretty funny. One other time, someone just barely tapped my foot sending me into a slow cartwheel unable to stop. Many other times I felt like a pinball in a pinball game. I would try to float gently and would get bumped by someone and go off in all kinds of different directions ricocheting off other people and walls.

Besides having fun floating, we had 3 experiments to do during our flight. One was to toss around a toy spaceship exploring the action/reaction phenomenon described in Newton’s Laws of Gravity. Our next experiment was to observe what less dense liquids do inside a bottle with more dense liquids during microgravity. We used oil and water in the bottle. The less dense liquid would eventually go to the middle of the bottle. Our last experiment was to open an actual International Space Station medical kit, put on gloves, and bandage an imaginary cut on a patient’s arm. Sounds easy eh? Well it isn’t. As I was putting on the gloves, I kept tumbling round and round. I got as far as wiping the fake wound with alcohol before we ran out of time.

Microgravity would last for about 30 seconds and then gravity would suddenly return. The coaches would warn us to get our feet pointed down, but many times you couldn’t do it in time. That’s when you would be on the ceiling weighing nothing and then a microsecond later you weigh 245 lbs and plummet to the floor in a heap. Gravity would grab us fat boys with a vengeance. I hit the floor pretty hard at times. We would then start to climb the parabola again and I would end up lying there weighing 1.8 times my weight (441 lbs) until the next episode of microgravity. The next day I was pretty sore but I bore it with pride.

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1 pat  6/17/08 9:49:19 pm reply quote 0

Cool. My type of thread.

2 Racer X  6/17/08 9:49:39 pm reply quote 3

Ya know, gravity is just a theory.

/

3 jcm  6/17/08 9:50:14 pm reply quote 0

What about zero G, ahhh, whoopie?

4 jcm  6/17/08 9:50:53 pm reply quote 1

re: #2 Racer X

Ya know, gravity is just a theory.

/

Go take a flying leap.....
in the name of science of course.
;-P

5 rawmuse  6/17/08 9:51:32 pm reply quote 0

I wonder if they make the Lizard with 2 backs in there...

6 pat  6/17/08 9:51:59 pm reply quote 1

re: #2 Racer X

Ya know, gravity is just a theory.

/

Until you fall off the ladder.

7 DistantThunder  6/17/08 9:52:25 pm reply quote 2

re: #3 jcm

What about zero G, ahhh, whoopie?

30 seconds?

8 astronmr20  6/17/08 9:52:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #2 Racer X

Ya know, gravity is just a theory.

/

It's real, but we can't explain it.. that's a fact.

9 rabidsquirrel  6/17/08 9:52:58 pm reply quote 0

I'm watching "The Universe" on the History Channel. The topic? Why, gravity, of course.

10 Syrah  6/17/08 9:53:15 pm reply quote 0

I want to do that.

11 astronmr20  6/17/08 9:53:16 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 rabidsquirrel

Darn! I wish I had cable.

12 Racer X  6/17/08 9:53:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #4 jcm

I have experienced gravity from 12k feet up. It works. Thankfully the chute opened.

13 DistantThunder  6/17/08 9:53:20 pm reply quote 1

When was microgravity discovered and by whom?

14 Ringo the Gringo  6/17/08 9:53:26 pm reply quote 0

What causes gravity?

15 astronmr20  6/17/08 9:53:42 pm reply quote 0

I'd like to do that, but I'm not so sure about being in free-fall in a plane.

16 swamprat  6/17/08 9:53:57 pm reply quote 0

There is no gravity; The earth sucks.

17 rawmuse  6/17/08 9:54:11 pm reply quote 0

re: #14 Ringo the Gringo

What causes gravity?

Bad music.

18 astronmr20  6/17/08 9:54:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #14 Ringo the Gringo

We are actually unsure.

19 rabidsquirrel  6/17/08 9:54:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #11 astronmr20

Darn! I wish I had cable.

Watching in high definition, to boot. Gotta love it. They even had a segment on the Zero G plane.

20 Tarkus289  6/17/08 9:54:55 pm reply quote 2

al gore invented gravity.

21 Syrah  6/17/08 9:55:10 pm reply quote 0

re: #5 rawmuse

I wonder if they make the Lizard with 2 backs in there...

That would be a very quick quicky.

22 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 9:55:37 pm reply quote -2

Well, the NAS didn't launch this, although members of the NAS do work for Nasa.

It's the same with Discovery. Some prominent scientists are members who do excellent work in their fields.

One guy, Guillermo Gonzales has discovered planets, developed the concept of Galactic Habitable Zones, written astronomy textbooks, had the most cited astronomy paper one year, and, oh yeah, was denied tenure at his university solely for his views on Intelligent Design.

23 astronmr20  6/17/08 9:56:08 pm reply quote 1

re: #21 Syrah

That would be a very quick quicky.

Well, either quick, or a rather unpleasant coitus interruptus.

24 DistantThunder  6/17/08 9:56:09 pm reply quote 0

For more info you can check out [Link: www.microgravity.com...]

25 jcm  6/17/08 9:56:26 pm reply quote 4

re: #12 Racer X

I have experienced gravity from 12k feet up. It works. Thankfully the chute opened.

I took a tumble off a 3 story building. What the say is true, the fall under the influence of gravity is not the problem. It the damn earth getting in the way and causing a rather sudden stop.

I landed in a bush, and suffered scratches. LUCKY.

26 psyop  6/17/08 9:56:27 pm reply quote 0

I would love to do that someday...

27 swamprat  6/17/08 9:56:38 pm reply quote 0

re: #22 Johnny 100 Pesos

you had to

28 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 9:56:43 pm reply quote 0

Ooops, re: #22 Johnny 100 Pesos

Small error in my last post:
instead of textbooks, read a textbook

29 rawmuse  6/17/08 9:56:44 pm reply quote 0

I feel nauseous...

30 Charles  6/17/08 9:57:00 pm reply quote 1

re: #22 Johnny 100 Pesos

Well, the NAS didn't launch this, although members of the NAS do work for Nasa.

It's the same with Discovery. Some prominent scientists are members who do excellent work in their fields.

One guy, Guillermo Gonzales has discovered planets, developed the concept of Galactic Habitable Zones, written astronomy textbooks, had the most cited astronomy paper one year, and, oh yeah, was denied tenure at his university solely for his views on Intelligent Design.

Guillermo Gonzales is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.

Again.

31 Ringo the Gringo  6/17/08 9:57:13 pm reply quote 0

I need a vacation.

32 jcm  6/17/08 9:57:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #29 rawmuse

I feel nauseous...

There's a bag in the seat in front of you....

33 Racer X  6/17/08 9:57:35 pm reply quote 0

OT (kinda)

Thursday night / Friday am - Vandenberg will shoot the OSTM/Jason-2 satellite up on a Delta 2 rocket.

00:45 Friday morning.

Should be quite a show if you're nearby.

34 brainwizard73  6/17/08 9:57:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 astronmr20

Isn't it related to the mass of an object? While gravity itself is a theory, if an object has mass, it has a gravitational field.

Right? No?

35 psyop  6/17/08 9:57:52 pm reply quote 0

re: #25 jcm

Was it at a party at the UW?

Seriously, there have been several students fall to their (unfortunate) death while intoxicated on college row the past few years.

It's an epidemic!

36 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 9:58:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #30 Charles

So what? It doesn't take anything away from his accomplishments.

37 MandyManners  6/17/08 9:58:24 pm reply quote 0

The shuttle program ends in 2010?!

38 psyop  6/17/08 9:58:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #20 Tarkus289

al gore invented gravity.

He only did that so that the internet would work.

39 brainwizard73  6/17/08 9:58:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #20 Tarkus289

Nuh-uh!

He invented the theory of gravity...real gravity was created during the New Deal.

Didn't you know that?

40 astronmr20  6/17/08 9:58:58 pm reply quote 0

re: #34 brainwizard73

Yes it is absolutely related to mass, but we don't know why. No clue.

41 Charles  6/17/08 9:59:03 pm reply quote 0

And the claim that Gonzalez was denied tenure because of his ID delusions is simply false:

[Link: www.expelledexposed.com...]

42 jcm  6/17/08 9:59:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #35 psyop

Was it at a party at the UW?

Seriously, there have been several students fall to their (unfortunate) death while intoxicated on college row the past few years.

It's an epidemic!

I was doing a restoration on a 1908 Mansion just North of Greek Row in Seattle. A bunch of rotted wood gave way.

43 Beholden  6/17/08 9:59:12 pm reply quote 8

NASA needs to adopt a "Winnie the Pooh" approach to space exploration.

44 Racer X  6/17/08 9:59:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #43 Beholden

NASA needs to adopt a "Winnie the Pooh" approach to space exploration.

LOL!

45 psyop  6/17/08 10:00:13 pm reply quote 1

re: #14 Ringo the Gringo

What causes gravity?

If you can figure that out, you will win a Nobel Prize.

...on second thought, those aren't worth much these days.

meh....

46 BlueCanuck  6/17/08 10:00:18 pm reply quote 0

Gotta love the nickname of the NASA version of it. Have to admit it though, I would love to experience that flight myself.

/probably the closest I would get to the space experience.

47 songbird  6/17/08 10:00:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 MandyManners

The shuttle program ends in 2010?!

Yes! The contractors at our site are looking for other jobs now.

48 rabidsquirrel  6/17/08 10:00:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 MandyManners

The shuttle program ends in 2010?!

It wasn't supposed to last this long. The maintenance on the shuttle vehicle between each flight is prohibitively expensive, and the vehicles are starting to simply wear out, as evidenced by the increasingly common problems they're having with tiles falling off during launch and in flight.

49 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:00:55 pm reply quote 4

re: #22 Johnny 100 Pesos

Will you please take your ID discussion and not foul up an interesting science thread?

Dammit, I am sick of having to suffer through 2,568 posts on ID and all the permutations of that topic and then someone has to go and louse up a really neat thread.

Just keep it clear for a few hours, alright?

50 wolfie  6/17/08 10:00:55 pm reply quote 0

I wonder if it would make you seasick?
Still looks neat, tho.

51 Attaboid  6/17/08 10:01:19 pm reply quote 0

re: #31 Ringo the Gringo

I need a vacation.

My boss called me this morning and asked:"do you want to work?" I said "No". "I'm on vacation". "You approved it!"

Silly bun*.

52 swamprat  6/17/08 10:01:27 pm reply quote 1

re: #30 Charles
I think that was the point. ..It was good point, well made. But I wish we could dance to another tune. All roads don't have to lead to a pie-fight.

53 psyop  6/17/08 10:01:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 jcm

Ouch...

Some beautiful old buildings around there, though.

54 songbird  6/17/08 10:01:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #46 BlueCanuck

Gotta love the nickname of the NASA version of it. Have to admit it though, I would love to experience that flight myself.

/probably the closest I would get to the space experience.

We are getting a spaceport about 40 miles north of where I live. It's big bucks to go into space, but it will be a likelihood.

55 jcm  6/17/08 10:01:51 pm reply quote 3

re: #22 Johnny 100 Pesos

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

56 MandyManners  6/17/08 10:01:58 pm reply quote 0

re: #41 Charles

And the claim that Gonzalez was denied tenure because of his ID delusions is simply false:

[Link:

57 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:02:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 astronmr20

There haven't been any observable indications? I would think that given that the building blocks of this type of situation are readily available (planets, stars, moons) and that we have good sensors, that we would have some working theories.

No?

58 swamprat  6/17/08 10:02:31 pm reply quote 2

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.

59 DistantThunder  6/17/08 10:02:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 jcm

I was doing a restoration on a 1908 Mansion just North of Greek Row in Seattle. A bunch of rotted wood gave way.

It's how people break their necks or backs. You were lucky. We were putting a new roof on our one story house. I told my husband I wanted to see what he was doing. So he allowed me up, and then while we stood there together, or 18 month old came toddling across the roof having followed us up the ladder. We had to scoop her up with out startling her.

60 jcm  6/17/08 10:02:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #53 psyop

Ouch...

Some beautiful old buildings around there, though.

Here's the house.

61 BlueCanuck  6/17/08 10:02:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #54 songbird

We are getting a spaceport about 40 miles north of where I live. It's big bucks to go into space, but it will be a likelihood.

Really? Private company?

/time to start getting in shape and saving money.

62 Reno911  6/17/08 10:03:11 pm reply quote 0

I'm blinded by science...or ID...or...Creationism....whatever.

63 mich-again  6/17/08 10:03:35 pm reply quote 0

NASA and NASCAR are pretty similar. One second you are weightless, the next you fell multiple G's.

64 jcm  6/17/08 10:03:51 pm reply quote 0

re: #59 DistantThunder

Very luck...
I was working on my house and left the ladder to get something, come back and my 3 year old is half way up.

65 wolfie  6/17/08 10:03:58 pm reply quote 5

re: #58 swamprat

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.

Let's not get personal here.

66 astronmr20  6/17/08 10:04:19 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 jcm

Very luck...
I was working on my house and left the ladder to get something, come back and my 3 year old is half way up.

They do tend to climb...

67 jcm  6/17/08 10:04:35 pm reply quote 3

re: #58 swamprat

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.

Waaaay Toooo much information....

68 jcm  6/17/08 10:05:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #66 astronmr20

They do tend to climb...

He's a climber, fearless too. Scares the crap outta me!

69 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:05:30 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 jcm

Dodged a bullet there. Thank goodness.

I have a few that young myself and had a scary incident in a neighbor's pool when #2 kid wandered into the deep end (I was busy with another kid).

Neighbor yanked him out. Then wife just about killed me.

70 MandyManners  6/17/08 10:05:33 pm reply quote 4

re: #58 swamprat

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.


They have medicine for that now.

71 DistantThunder  6/17/08 10:05:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 jcm

Very luck...
I was working on my house and left the ladder to get something, come back and my 3 year old is half way up.

Ugh. We felt so dumb. I completely took leave of my senses and went up 6 months pregnant. I said to my husband later - Why would you let me do that? Momentary lapse of sanity.

72 swamprat  6/17/08 10:06:23 pm reply quote 0

Now if the guy had been a left-wing nut, lying about his indian heritage, while stealing other peoples' work; Hey, no prob!
Tenure is very complex.

73 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:06:28 pm reply quote 1

re: #58 swamprat

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.

Perhaps you should propose a cap and trade dinger system.

74 songbird  6/17/08 10:06:34 pm reply quote 1

re: #61 BlueCanuck

Really? Private company?

/time to start getting in shape and saving money.

Yes. Here is a link.

75 yitzy  6/17/08 10:06:58 pm reply quote 0

Read the story...loved the pic.

I AM SO JEALOUS IT HURTS! Somebody hold me....(sniff!)

76 psyop  6/17/08 10:07:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #60 jcm

Very nice....

If you get a chance, there is a replica of George Washington's Mount Vernon home on Capitol Hill, run by the Daughters of the Revolution. Very simple, elegant place. Friends of mine had their wedding there, too much fun was had by all...

77 rusty_armor  6/17/08 10:07:23 pm reply quote 0

I am green with envy ...

78 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:07:40 pm reply quote 0

re: #71 DistantThunder

In Texas, they might try to take away your unborn for that...

79 greenmiler  6/17/08 10:08:53 pm reply quote 0
My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.

I hate when that happens

80 Racer X  6/17/08 10:09:16 pm reply quote 1

re: #70 MandyManners

They have medicine for that now.

Consult a physician if your dinger keeps dinging after 4 hours.

81 MandyManners  6/17/08 10:10:16 pm reply quote 0

re: #75 yitzy

((yitzy))

HEY, KEEP YOUR HANDS STILL!

82 pat  6/17/08 10:10:29 pm reply quote 0

Mandy keeps excess Dingers on the mantle.

83 snowcrash  6/17/08 10:10:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #58 swamprat

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.


You might need to see a therapist for that.

84 BlueCanuck  6/17/08 10:11:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #74 songbird

Too cool. I am definitely going to have to start making the money for that. Just plan on doing sub-orbitals at first right?

/heard of Virgin Galatic before.

85 jcm  6/17/08 10:12:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #82 pat

Mandy keeps excess Dingers on the mantle.

That was a mental picture I did not need!
;-P

86 swamprat  6/17/08 10:12:54 pm reply quote 0

I tried to down-ding post #22 at least 30 times. Only one took.

87 snowcrash  6/17/08 10:13:05 pm reply quote 2

Charles just told someone to bite him on the Jindal thread. teehee

88 greenmiler  6/17/08 10:13:12 pm reply quote 0

I wonder what happens if one person pukes. that must be hell trying to get away from puke in zero G

89 songbird  6/17/08 10:13:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #84 BlueCanuck

Too cool. I am definitely going to have to start making the money for that. Just plan on doing sub-orbitals at first right?

/heard of Virgin Galatic before.

We hope to bring in good jobs for the area. My husband is running for county commissioner and his slogan is "Future Jobs, Future Technologies".

The Spaceport is an important link in the job production chain.

90 DistantThunder  6/17/08 10:13:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #78 brainwizard73

In Texas, they might try to take away your unborn for that...


Yeah, really. Definitely poor judgment but I was always so healthy and active and small when I was pregnant I think I just forgot. When I was on the way to the hospital to have my 1st - 3 weeks overdue, I had walked down the stairs of the doctor;s office and the doctor called down to me to tell me he'd forgotten to give me the admission orders. I ran back up the 15 stairs taking them two at a time. When I got to the top, he just looked at me shocked, and I said: What?

He said: I wish all my patients could do that.

91 jcm  6/17/08 10:13:53 pm reply quote 2
92 yitzy  6/17/08 10:14:13 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 MandyManners

((yitzy))

HEY, KEEP YOUR HANDS STILL!

Suddenly, it all seems little better now. Whatever you just did, please continue.

((Mandy)) ------> DING!

93 pat  6/17/08 10:14:14 pm reply quote 0

re: #88 greenmiler

I wonder what happens if one person pukes. that must be hell trying to get away from puke in zero G

That is such a big problem they ask you to die before you puke.

94 Cognito  6/17/08 10:14:54 pm reply quote 2
Oops! Did I say “Discovery Institute?” I meant, “SpaceTEC.”

I may be the only reader who feels this way, Charles, but this particular criticism seems to be tipping toward gratuitousness.

There must be a million other philosophies out there deserving attention, as well.

95 swamprat  6/17/08 10:15:05 pm reply quote 0

re: #89 songbird

We hope to bring in good jobs for the area. My husband is running for county commissioner and his slogan is "Future Jobs, Future Technologies".

The Spaceport is an important link in the job production chain.

..In beautiful downtown Upham,NM

96 MandyManners  6/17/08 10:15:38 pm reply quote 0

Spewing milk is fun.

97 MandyManners  6/17/08 10:16:24 pm reply quote 1

re: #94 Cognito

I may be the only reader who feels this way, Charles, but this particular criticism seems to be tipping toward gratuitousness.

There must be a million other philosophies out there deserving attention, as well.

If ID is taught in public schools, it will open the door to teaching the Koran.

98 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 10:16:25 pm reply quote -1

re: #41 Charles

Don't forget that materials published by the NCSE are at least as suspect as those published by Discovery. There is a definite bias involved, surely you recognize that (not to mention a much bigger budget).

Now, about Gonzalez:

Iowa State University has guidelines for achieving tenure. Raising funding is not mentioned in them (although he did receive grants from NASA among others). Publishing is, and...

Having produced 68 refereed scientific papers at the time of tenure review, Dr. Gonzalez exceeded his own department’s standard for “excellence” in research by more than 350%. One eminent scientist who reviewed Dr. Gonzalez’s tenure application said that, “Dr. Gonzalez is eminently qualified for the promotion according to your guidelines of excellence in scholarship and exhibiting a potential for national distinction. In light of your criteria I would certainly recommend the promotion." Indeed, 2/3 of the external reviewers who gave an opinion about whether Dr. Gonzalez deserves tenure said he should receive tenure.

In one e-mail obtained through an Iowa Open Records request filed by the Discovery Institute (and reported on by the Des Moines Register), Joerg Schmalian, professor of physics and astronomy, wrote a year before the official tenure process began that speaking about Gonzalez's tenure case without his knowledge was paramount to "secrecy in the department."

"In view of the upcoming tenure decision, secrecy in the department may equally be interpreted as prejudging the case as making a statement," Schmalian wrote. "It becomes clear that there were efforts to write such a statement and that statement was not made only to avoid the impression of a hostile environment. Isn't this strong evidence for secrecy in the department?"

Eli Rosenberg, professor and chairman of physics and astronomy, wrote in Gonzalez's tenure dossier that Gonzalez's research into ID did play a part in his decision to deny tenure on the grounds that ID research "disqualifies him from serving as a science educator." Rosenberg declined to comment on the e-mails.

I'm sorry, Discovery Institute again. But they seem to be the only people telling this story.

99 Charles  6/17/08 10:17:00 pm reply quote 0

re: #98 Johnny 100 Pesos

That's right, the Discovery Institute AGAIN.

100 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 10:17:05 pm reply quote -4

re: #49 brainwizard73

Hey, Charles started it...or did you ot see his tiresome dig at Discovery?

101 rawmuse  6/17/08 10:17:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #91 jcm

Woman who refused to move for developers dies

Picture is priceless.

Take the money and get out of there. Too late now.

102 swamprat  6/17/08 10:17:29 pm reply quote 0

AArrrrrGGGhhh!

103 songbird  6/17/08 10:19:19 pm reply quote 0

re: #95 swamprat

..In beautiful downtown Upham,NM

It's a fabulous place! All the road runners, snakes, and horney toads you could want! Next thing you know the environmentalist will be screaming about saving the area........just like they whine about the oil rich Otero Mesa area.

104 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:20:40 pm reply quote 0

re: #90 DistantThunder

Hey, live and learn. Just reminds us of how lucky we are and how good parents aren't born, they're made.

105 jcm  6/17/08 10:21:02 pm reply quote 1

re: #103 songbird


dinger dysfunction
horney toads

This thread is going to hell in a hand basket!
;-P

106 DistantThunder  6/17/08 10:21:34 pm reply quote 0

Well, let's just hope Jindal works this out so that it doesn't affect his credibility long term. Mccain would certainly have issues with him over this.

107 MandyManners  6/17/08 10:21:56 pm reply quote 2

re: #100 Johnny 100 Pesos

Asshole.

108 swamprat  6/17/08 10:22:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #103 songbird
Yeah, Cutter is so over developed!

109 songbird  6/17/08 10:23:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #105 jcm

dinger dysfunction
horney toads

This thread is going to hell in a hand basket!
;-P

My husband found an *ahem* "horned" toad in the desert that looked just like astroboy

110 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 10:23:35 pm reply quote 1

re: #107 MandyManners

ouch

111 Clemente  6/17/08 10:24:31 pm reply quote 0

re: #58 swamprat

My dinger is broke. It only does one ding and stops.

/forwarding this week's 1296 strangely-spelled emails, you're welcome :)

112 greenmiler  6/17/08 10:25:02 pm reply quote 0

Well you forget about the moose!

Arther/off

113 swamprat  6/17/08 10:25:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #111 Clemente
Gee, thanks.

114 American Soldier  6/17/08 10:27:13 pm reply quote 1
Our last experiment was to open an actual International Space Station medical kit, put on gloves, and bandage an imaginary cut on a patient’s arm. Sounds easy eh? Well it isn’t. As I was putting on the gloves, I kept tumbling round and round. I got as far as wiping the fake wound with alcohol before we ran out of time.


Wus. Try one-man one-handed BMV CPR in the back of an ambulance hurtling through Chicago at 90MPH, holding a trauma victim stationary in the back of a CPD Squadrol (all smooth edges, NO handholds) hurtling through Chicago at 100MPH, managing patient care in the back of a Hummer ambulance at ANY speed, doing any task in a helo that's yankin' and bankin', or, for that matter, fixing sandwiches in the windward galley of a sailboat with the leeward rail buried in Lake Michigan.

First aid in micro-gravity? A snap.

115 songbird  6/17/08 10:27:32 pm reply quote 0

Goodnight, Faithful Lizards.

The alarm clock rings early nowadays!

116 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:28:30 pm reply quote -1

re: #100 Johnny 100 Pesos

Hey, Charles started it...or did you ot see his tiresome dig at Discovery?

So that meant you just had to try to get in one more dig; on this thread.

After something like 4,563 posts on the last thread; because it sounds so much different now as opposed to then.

Good thing that you didn't see anyone jump off a bridge...you probably would have bailed too...I mean, you can't resist, right?

117 swamprat  6/17/08 10:28:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #115 songbird
night, songbird

118 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 10:28:56 pm reply quote 2

Goodnight from me too.

Sweet dreams to everyone. Even Ms. Manners.

Especially Ms. Manners.

119 rawmuse  6/17/08 10:29:14 pm reply quote 0

Only five more hours until boarding time.

120 psyop  6/17/08 10:30:09 pm reply quote 0

re: #91 jcm

Woman who refused to move for developers dies

Picture is priceless.

LOL....

I remember when that whole thing went down... Score one for the little guy (or little old lady, in this case).

121 brainwizard73  6/17/08 10:30:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #101 rawmuse

I thought things like that happend only in Bugs Bunny cartoons.

122 jaunte  6/17/08 10:30:53 pm reply quote 2

Goodnight all.
Ian Thomas - Goodnight Mrs. Calabash
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

123 Charles  6/17/08 10:31:00 pm reply quote 1

re: #98 Johnny 100 Pesos

Don't forget that materials published by the NCSE are at least as suspect as those published by Discovery. There is a definite bias involved, surely you recognize that (not to mention a much bigger budget).

A bias? Sure, if you mean, in favor of good science and biased against garbage pseudo-science. I'm biased that way myself.

And no, it's nowhere near as suspect as the propaganda coming out of the dishonest Discovery Institute.

124 swamprat  6/17/08 10:31:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #115 songbird

Goodnight, Faithful Lizards.

The alarm clock rings early nowadays!


Songbird, I am looking for a windmill. I am willing to take it down.

125 Johnny 100 Pesos  6/17/08 10:31:51 pm reply quote 0

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