OPEN!

OPEN!

The opening reminds me about what the ape at the zoo said when he heard about evolution:
"Does that mean I'm my keeper's brother?"

Indeed- they have some horrible behaviors.

re: #3 Kosh's Shadow

Doh! Kosh, you were supposed to put in the third "OPEN!"

Ru Roh. Another evolution thread coming. How long til it hits 1000 comments?

I think chimpanzees evolved from humans.

That was my first post with Windoze XP, which may be hell for some, but the only comparison I have is to Windoze 98, so I'm in heaven (or will be when I get Java working.)

Oh yes, a Wednesday afternoon thread. Anyone else using sum ff v3?

re: #3 Kosh's Shadow

The opening reminds me about what the ape at the zoo said when he heard about evolution:
"Does that mean I'm my keeper's brother?"

Ape named Ape got put in a zoo?

McCain calls for 45 new Nuke plants.

He is the man.

Usually, the quotes on these threads are auto-generated, but I admit I did pick this one.

_Heh.

How long until "OPEN!" goes the way of "FIRST!"

re: #9 carbon footprint

Oh yes, a Wednesday afternoon thread. Anyone else using sum ff v3?

Installed it this morning. Seems to be working well.

re: #11 faraway

McCain calls for 45 new Nuke plants.

He is the man.

Yes! Please. And fast track them so they take 30 mos. rather than 30 years. Come on, we can do it.

re: #12 Charles

You been stirring it up lately. What's up?

re: #7 Mich-again

I think chimpanzees evolved from humans liberals.

That would explain the poo flinging.

re: #14 CyanSnowHawk

Agreed, installed yesterday for the Record. It works great with LGF.

Hey, if you guys think you came from a monkey, who am I to stop you:)

re: #8 wrenchwench

That was my first post with Windoze XP, which may be hell for some, but the only comparison I have is to Windoze 98, so I'm in heaven (or will be when I get Java working.)

I have pity for you!

re: #11 faraway

McCain calls for 45 new Nuke plants.

He is the man.

I'll take the giant mutated Begonia.

re: #19 faraway

Hey, if you guys think you came from a monkey, who am I to stop you:)

Ummm, I came from my mom.
/

Crikey!

If you were a Winnie the Pooh character (I only hate Winnie the Pooh slightly more than I hate Barney the Condescendentsore), what Winnie the Pooh character would you be and why?

Man, took some claritin for my allergies and I've been groggy for the last 2 hours

re: #17 Hard Right

That would explain the poo flinging.

and the public masturbation...

re: #20 astronmr20

I have pity for you!

I preferred XP over 98, but waited for SP1 before upgrading. Won't touch Vista with a 10' pole yet.

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Man, took some claritin for my allergies and I've been groggy for the last 2 hours

Washing it down with a six pack may have something to do with that.
/

re: #7 Mich-again

I think chimpanzees evolved from humans.

Sounds like a Charlton Heston movie.

Obama is going to be busy trying to keep up with old man McCain.

Yesterday: Drilling.
Today: 45 nuke plants.
Tomorrow: ?

Shock and Awe.

re: #26 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

and the public masturbation...

And again someone mentions the Kennedys.

re: #19 faraway

Hey, if you guys think you came from a monkey, who am I to stop you:)

Well, some think I'm the son of pigs and monkeys.

The New Alliyah Sticker

re: #28 Hard Right

Washing it down with a six pack may have something to do with that.
/

I wish, still at work. Luckily today I just have to babysit some scripts we have running, so was able to cat nap some while they run.

re: #23 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Crikey!

If you were a Winnie the Pooh character (I only hate Winnie the Pooh slightly more than I hate Barney the Condescendentsore), what Winnie the Pooh character would you be and why?

Tigger, because I can do the laugh.

I used to do it a lot when Mrs. Hawk was pregnant. When little Hawk hatched, he would always turn towards me when I did it.

re: #23 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Crikey!

If you were a Winnie the Pooh character (I only hate Winnie the Pooh slightly more than I hate Barney the Condescendentsore), what Winnie the Pooh character would you be and why?

I'd be Al Geeyore a big gaseous windbag who was getting rich off a scam I was running involving honey credits.

Liberal demorats are chimps. Oww oww oww drilling for oil won't do any good right away so don't do it- that's like saying going to school for an education won't get you a CEO position right away so why bother going to school? Demorats are dumb chimps and should be locked away in cages so their poo flinging doesn't annoy us!

Joan Rivers Drops F-Bomb on Live British TV.

Apparently, she is 'very f*cking sorry' about the whole thing.

re: #34 WrathofG-d

LOL!

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wish, still at work. Luckily today I just have to babysit some scripts we have running, so was able to cat nap some while they run.

Zyrtec knocks me out, but not Claritin. Maybe you should try Zyrtec?

re: #31 faraway

Obama is going to be busy trying to keep up with old man McCain.

Yesterday: Drilling.
Today: 45 nuke plants.
Tomorrow: ?

It'll be interesting to see how Obama mangles his response and how the media try to cover for him. I'm not sure how he can stay viable with his more taxes no oil positions.

Many years ago I listened to a series of lectures by a Rabbi (Avigdor Miller OB"M) that were very anti-evolution. At the same time we also had subscriptions to National Geographic and Scientific American.

I don't agree with everything the Rabbi said, nor do I agree with everything that I read in Nat Geo and Sci Am, but I am very glad to have learned critical thinking skills.

Secret World of the Chimpanzee

This two-hour offering from "National Geographic Explorer" is all about apes. The first segment, "Secret World of the Chimpanzee," looks in on a society of chimps in a West African rain forest. The program emphasizes the tool-making abilities and cooperative tendencies of "our nearest cousins," but the activity that is likely to stay in your mind is a chimpanzee ambush of a little monkey and the subsequent feast. The narrator seems pleased that the chimps share the meat. Tell it to the monkey.

re: #34 WrathofG-d

The New Alliyah Sticker

Many updings.
I sent the link to a rabbi who really, really dislikes Obama

re: #41 Hard Right

Zyrtec knocks me out, but not Claritin. Maybe you should try Zyrtec?

I had taken some generic stuff this morning and was fine, but forgot to bring it in. Coworker let me get a claritin and 30 minutes later ZZZZZZZZZZ. Just wearing off now.

Heh. Al Gore's "eco-friendly" home:

After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.

Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

[Link: tennesseepolicy.org...]

Obama: We will redeploy all the nuke plants that we currently have to Okinawa.

re: #45 Kosh's Shadow

Many updings.
I sent the link to a rabbi who really, really dislikes Obama

Here is an Obama sticker for your rabbi.

re: #44 DistantThunder

Somebody call CETA (Chimps for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)

re: #47 David Simon

Heh. Al Gore's "eco-friendly" home:

[Link: tennesseepolicy.org...]

Yes, the man converted over to windmills, solar panels, hamsters on wheels and still uses more energy than before.

re: #50 CyanSnowHawk

Somebody call CETA (Chimps for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)

Shouldn't that be AETH (Animals for the Ethical Treatment of Humans)?

Last time today: Anyone who wants to come to a lizard get-together July 26th, send me an email, and I'll give you the details.

re: #7 Mich-again

I think chimpanzees evolved from humans.

No, they evolved from Berkeley tree-sitters.

Where's my tire and my banana?

re: #48 faraway

Obama: We will redeploy all the nuke plants that we currently have to Okinawa.

Obama will send them to Iran.
(As opposed to shipping them a few nuclear weapons, in a state where they will rapidly disassemble themselves upon delivery)

re: #52 Alouette

Shouldn't that be AETH (Animals for the Ethical Treatment of Humans)?

Only if they were trapping and eating people.

re: #49 Alouette

Here is an Obama sticker for your rabbi.

That one's frightening. And yes, I can read the Hebrew

re: #53 Dianna

Last time today: Anyone who wants to come to a lizard get-together July 26th, send me an email, and I'll give you the details.

I'm so faraway:)

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I had taken some generic stuff this morning and was fine, but forgot to bring it in. Coworker let me get a claritin and 30 minutes later ZZZZZZZZZZ. Just wearing off now.

My desk looks like a pharmacy inside. I should start charging for stuff.
Used to take pseudoephedrine. Talk about being wired. Better than caffeine. My sinuses were also completely clear. The down side is it can make you irritable and you just crash when it wears off.

From last thread:

OT, Oh, Charles, Mugabe atrocity alert

Zimbabwe: wife of Harare's MDC mayor killed
By Peta Thornycroft in Harare

Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 18/06/2008
The body of the wife of Harare's mayor has been discovered hours after she was abducted with her four-year-old son in the latest raid targeting Zimbabwe's senior opposition figures.
Abigail Chiroto, 27, was kidnapped yesterday by armed men who then petrol bombed the house she shared with her husband, Emmanuel Chiroto, the recently elected mayor of Harare and a member of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change. The cause of death was not immediately revealed.

The discovery of her blindfolded body close to the couple's house north of Harare came as South Africa's president, Thabo Mbeki, arrived today for previously unannounced talks with President Robert Mugabe.

Officials gave no details of the ...."

[Link: [Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]...]

* * *
Raila Odinga of Kenya has the courage to say something's rotten in Zimbabwe.

Apes of Wrath - yes, this really is the title of the article

The attack came without warning. One of the males charged toward us, hair on end, looking twice as large as my small female and enraged. As he rushed by he picked her up, hurled her to the ground, and pummeled her. She cringed and screamed. He ran off, rejoining the other males seconds later as if nothing had happened. It was not so easy for the female to return to normal. She whimpered and darted nervous glances at her attacker, as if worried that he might renew his assault.

In the years that followed I witnessed many similar attacks by males against females, among a variety of Old World primates, and eventually I found this sort of aggression against females so puzzling that I began to study it systematically-something that has rarely been done. My long-term research on olive baboons in Kenya showed that, on average, each pregnant or lactating female was attacked by an adult male about once a week and seriously injured about once a year. Estrous females were the target of even more aggression. The obvious question was, Why?

In the late 1970s, while I was in Africa among the baboons, feminists back in the United States were turning their attention to male violence against women. Their concern stimulated a wave of research documenting disturbingly high levels of battering, rape, sexual harassment, and murder. But although scientists investigated this kind of behavior from many perspectives, they mostly ignored the existence of similar behavior in other animals. My observations over the years have convinced me that a deeper understanding of male aggression against females in other species can help us understand its counterpart in our own.

......

Jane Goodall provides us with a compelling example of how males use violence to get sex. In her 1986 book, The Chimpanzees of Gombe, Goodall describes the chimpanzee dating game. In one of several scenarios, males gather around attractive estrous females and try to lure them away from other males for a one-on-one sexual expedition that may last for days or weeks. But females find some suitors more appealing than others and often resist the advances of less desirable males. Males often rely on aggression to counter female resistance. For example, Goodall describes how Evered, in "persuading" a reluctant Winkle to accompany him into the forest, attacked her six times over the course of five hours, twice severely.

Sometimes, as I saw in Gombe, a male chimpanzee even attacks an estrous female days before he tries to mate with her. Goodall thinks that a male uses such aggression to train a female to fear him so that she will be more likely to surrender to his subsequent sexual advances. Similarly, male hamadryas baboons, who form small harems by kidnapping child brides, maintain a tight rein over their females through threats and intimidation. If, when another male is nearby, a hamadryas female strays even a few feet from her mate, he shoots her a threatening stare and raises his brows. She usually responds by rushing to his side; if not, he bites the back of her neck. The neck bite is ritualized-the male does not actually sink his razor-sharp canines into her flesh-but the threat of injury is clear. By repeating this behavior hundreds of times, the male lays claim to particular females months or even years before mating with them. When a female comes into estrus, she solicits sex only from her harem master, and other males rarely challenge his sexual rights to her.

It gets better.

re: #51 carbon footprint

Yes, the man converted over to windmills, solar panels, hamsters on wheels and still uses more energy than before.

deep fat fryers use lots of electric.

re: #53 Dianna

Where?

SHORT
RANGE,
R

re: #23 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Eeyore because he's always cheerful and the life of the party. No, wait...

re: #59 faraway

It's all right. I admit, it would tickle me pink to have a bunch of out of town lizards and barflies in my house, but there's a limit to how many people we'd have beds for.

re: #51 carbon footprint

Yes, the man converted over to windmills, solar panels, hamsters on wheels and still uses more energy than before.

* * *
Al Gore could step on a treadmill & do his jowls & wattles & the rest of us a favor.

As a final example, consider orangutans. Because their food grows so sparsely, adult females rarely travel with anyone but their dependent offspring. But orangutan females routinely fall victim to forced copulation. Female orangutans, it seems, pay a high price for their solitude.

Some of the factors that influence female vulnerability to male sexual coercion in different species may also help explain such variation among different groups in the same species. For example, in a group of chimpanzees in the Tai Forest in the Ivory Coast, females form closer bonds with one another than do females at Gombe. Tai females may consequently have more egalitarian relationships with males than their Gombe counterparts do.

Such differences between groups especially characterize humans. Among the South American Yanomamoe, for instance, men frequently abduct and rape women from neighboring villages and severely beat their wives for suspected adultery. However, among the Aka people of the Central African Republic, male aggression against women has never been observed. Most human societies, of course, fall between these two extremes.

How are we to account for such variation? The same social factors that help explain how sexual coercion differs among nonhuman primates may deepen our understanding of how it varies across different groups of people. In most traditional human societies, a woman leaves her birth community when she marries and goes to live with her husband and his relatives. Without strong bonds to close female kin, she will probably be in danger of sexual coercion. The presence of close female kin, though, may protect her. For example, in a community in Belize, women live near their female relatives. A man will sometimes beat his wife if he becomes jealous or suspects her of infidelity, but when this happens, onlookers run to tell her female kin. Their arrival on the scene, combined with the presence of other glaring women, usually shames the man enough to stop his aggression.

Even in societies in which women live away from their families, kin may provide protection against abusive husbands, though how much protection varies dramatically from one society to the next. In some societies a woman's kin, including her father and brothers, consistently support her against an abusive husband, while in others they rarely help her. Why?

re: #17 Hard Right

re: #7 Mich-again

I think chimpanzees evolved from humans liberals.

That would explain the poo flinging.

I was going to correct that to "devolved," but decided it was more accurate as it stands.

All that fuss and he doesn't even want the job!

Smart man, that.

re: #54 Cygnus

lol,...whats the story with them.(saw some quick footage,and the msm did it's usual good job at informing and educating.)

re: #71 songbird

All that fuss and he doesn't even want the job!

Smart man, that.

He's a VP tease.

re: #68 alegrias

I met Mr. Albert Gore in 1988 when he was running for president. He struck me as a handsome, articulate man at that time. WTF happened between 1988 and now?

re: #65 buzzsawmonkey

Can anyone establish whether or not the Amy Brundage who is currently an Obama spokesperson, formerly a staffer for John Kerry, is related to the famed Olympic Committee antisemite Avery Brundage?

* * *
Buzzsaw, don't know but it's an unusual name.

PS, Brundage fired those two American athletes who did the raised fisted BP salute, with heads down, at the 1968 Olympics while on the medal stand.

Brundage stripped them of their medals too! (In my book, a cool thing to do for dissing your country who sponsored you)

from the wiki entry

re: #64 Render

San Jose, California.

re: #74 carbon footprint

I met Mr. Albert Gore in 1988 when he was running for president. He struck me as a handsome, articulate man at that time. WTF happened between 1988 and now?

You saw the real Al.

re: #76 Dianna

San Jose, California.

D'oh! Too far to go. We need a Lizardpalooza in Western WA.

re: #78 buzzsawmonkey

It's too bad that Jindal converted to Catholicism from Hinduism. With Ganesh on our side, the US economy would be flying high.

Until Vishnu came along....or does Obama fill that role?

re: #79 Cygnus

I empathize.

re: #74 carbon footprint

I met Mr. Albert Gore in 1988 when he was running for president. He struck me as a handsome, articulate man at that time. WTF happened between 1988 and now?

You are 20 years smarter!

re: #81 Hard Right

Until Vishnu came along....or does Obama fill that role?

I think he could be a good Kali.

re: #74 carbon footprint
Lost the election to Bush and believed all that crap about how he actually won. Never recovered and has been in a downward spiral since. He did, however figure out a way to make a lot of money conning the public.

re: #78 buzzsawmonkey

It's too bad that Jindal converted to Catholicism from Hinduism. With Ganesh on our side, the US economy would be flying high.

An elephant god on the Republican side! It's a winner!

re: #74 carbon footprint

I met Mr. Albert Gore in 1988 when he was running for president. He struck me as a handsome, articulate man at that time. WTF happened between 1988 and now?

* * *
Same here, the following year.

Gore got in with a bad crowd. Drank the coolaid. Became the third wheel at the WhiteHouse. Frustrated.

re: #60 Hard Right

My desk looks like a pharmacy inside. I should start charging for stuff.
Used to take pseudoephedrine. Talk about being wired. Better than caffeine. My sinuses were also completely clear. The down side is it can make you irritable and you just crash when it wears off.

I love that stuff. I don't crash; in fact frequently I feel better for a couple of DAYS from one dose, just because it clears my sinuses so effectively that it takes a long time before they fill up again.

I try to avoid it because I know it's not exactly the safest thing to take, but sometimes nothing else will do the job.

Wednesday.....hump day.....

(mebbe I'll get lucky tonight...)

I'm on the Right Coast. If I head that far West, I'm stopping in Arizona.

CUZ
I
CAN,
R

Behold the duck
It does not cluck
A cluck it lacks
It quacks

...

Ogden (G)Nash

re: #90 Render

I'm on the Right Coast. If I head that far West, I'm stopping in Arizona.

CUZ
I
CAN,
R

And we know why, eh. ;-)

re: #78 buzzsawmonkey

It's too bad that Jindal converted to Catholicism from Hinduism. With Ganesh on our side, the US economy would be flying high.

* * *
No need for Ganesh Now!

Spielberg, India Firm Near
Deal to Ally With DreamWorks
By LAUREN A.E. SCHUKER and MERISSA MARR
June 18, 2008; Page A1

The principals of DreamWorks SKG are close to a deal with one of India's biggest entertainment conglomerates to form a new movie venture, according to people familiar with the situation, a move that would give director Steven Spielberg the cash to finance his DreamWorks team's departure from Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures later this year.

Associated Press
Movie moguls Jeffrey Katzenberg, left, and Steven Spielberg watch the NBA finals last week. Mr. Spielberg's DreamWorks SKG is in talks with Reliance, a move that would give the director the cash to regain his independence.
Mumbai-based Reliance ADA Group would provide Mr. Spielberg and company with $500 million to $600 million in equity, moving them one step closer to ending one of Hollywood's most contentious and closely watched battles. In Reliance, the DreamWorks team also would have an unusual and ambitious partner in the film business: an Indian firm with interests in telecommunications, financial services and entertainment that wants to build a media empire by financing Hollywood ...

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

re: #62 DistantThunder

Apes of Wrath - yes, this really is the title of the article

......

Jane Goodall provides us with a compelling example of how males use violence to get sex. In her 1986 book, The Chimpanzees of Gombe, Goodall describes the chimpanzee dating game. In one of several scenarios, males gather around attractive estrous females and try to lure them away from other males for a one-on-one sexual expedition that may last for days or weeks. But females find some suitors more appealing than others and often resist the advances of less desirable males. Males often rely on aggression to counter female resistance. For example, Goodall describes how Evered, in "persuading" a reluctant Winkle to accompany him into the forest, attacked her six times over the course of five hours, twice severely.

Sometimes, as I saw in Gombe, a male chimpanzee even attacks an estrous female days before he tries to mate with her. Goodall thinks that a male uses such aggression to train a female to fear him so that she will be more likely to surrender to his subsequent sexual advances. Similarly, male hamadryas baboons, who form small harems by kidnapping child brides, maintain a tight rein over their females through threats and intimidation. If, when another male is nearby, a hamadryas female strays even a few feet from her mate, he shoots her a threatening stare and raises his brows. She usually responds by rushing to his side; if not, he bites the back of her neck. The neck bite is ritualized-the male does not actually sink his razor-sharp canines into her flesh-but the threat of injury is clear. By repeating this behavior hundreds of times, the male lays claim to particular females months or even years before mating with them. When a female comes into estrus, she solicits sex only from her harem master, and other males rarely challenge his sexual rights to her.

It gets better.

Wow..for a second there I thought the article was about Muzlim marriage customs. It's a good thing I went back and read it more carefully.

A thread where apes evolved from men?

IT'S A MADHOUSE! A MAAADHOUUUSE!

If you haven't voted in the current New Yorker Cartoon Caption Contest here's the link:

[Link: www.cartoonbank.com...]

The winning caption gets published so please lets make sure that it gets done right.

point 1 for G-d

re: #77 Hard Right

Yes, at a campaign event in a restaurant I worked at in college. I remember being impressed by him then. But I was also 23 and in college so who know? By the way, I have become quite plump in twenty years as well. : (

re: #95 Occasional Reader

Some think men evolved from bears.

Be Back Much Later.

re: #95 Occasional Reader

A thread where apes evolved from men?

IT'S A MADHOUSE! A MAAADHOUUUSE!

[Link: www.rrcc.edu...]
One of these was handed down to me from my grandpa.

re: #94 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Wow..for a second there I thought the article was about Muzlim marriage customs. It's a good thing I went back and read it more carefully.

It's interesting when you place it in that context, isn't it.

re: #94 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

attractive estrous females

rrrrrraaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr!

re: #96 jamgarr

If you haven't voted in the current New Yorker Cartoon Caption Contest here's the link:

[Link: www.cartoonbank.com...]

The winning caption gets published so please lets make sure that it gets done right.

seethe!

/

re: #69 DistantThunder

Even in societies in which women live away from their families, kin may provide protection against abusive husbands, though how much protection varies dramatically from one society to the next. In some societies a woman's kin, including her father and brothers, consistently support her against an abusive husband, while in others they rarely help her. Why?

Does the society in question regard females as individuals, deserving respect, or property?

re: #96 jamgarr

"Why now officer, the Deity that raped me was a pedophile with a beard."

re: #105 carbon footprint

"Why now officer, the Deity that raped me was a pedophile with a beard."

Darn it! Not "now" but "no". Argh

re: #96 jamgarr

If you haven't voted in the current New Yorker Cartoon Caption Contest here's the link:

[Link: www.cartoonbank.com...]

The winning caption gets published so please lets make sure that it gets done right.

Voted for the thrid one, about the face of #6. :-)

re: #107 Honorary Yooper

Voted for the thrid one, about the face of #6. :-)

Ding, Ding, Ding!

You people have not even evolved from lizards. Look at your sticky little web hands.

re: #97 WrathofG-d

point 1 for G-d

Maybe not. The interpretation is Sea of Reeds, not Red Sea, and chariot wheels could have gotten there very easily either by shipwreck, or by being dumped off a ship.

re: #107 Honorary Yooper

Voted for the thrid one, about the face of #6. :-)

Me too.
heh.

re: #62 DistantThunder

Apes of Wrath - yes, this really is the title of the article

......

Jane Goodall provides us with a compelling example of how males use violence to get sex. In her 1986 book, The Chimpanzees of Gombe, Goodall describes the chimpanzee dating game. In one of several scenarios, males gather around attractive estrous females and try to lure them away from other males for a one-on-one sexual expedition that may last for days or weeks. But females find some suitors more appealing than others and often resist the advances of less desirable males. Males often rely on aggression to counter female resistance. For example, Goodall describes how Evered, in "persuading" a reluctant Winkle to accompany him into the forest, attacked her six times over the course of five hours, twice severely.

Sometimes, as I saw in Gombe, a male chimpanzee even attacks an estrous female days before he tries to mate with her. Goodall thinks that a male uses such aggression to train a female to fear him so that she will be more likely to surrender to his subsequent sexual advances. Similarly, male hamadryas baboons, who form small harems by kidnapping child brides, maintain a tight rein over their females through threats and intimidation. If, when another male is nearby, a hamadryas female strays even a few feet from her mate, he shoots her a threatening stare and raises his brows. She usually responds by rushing to his side; if not, he bites the back of her neck. The neck bite is ritualized-the male does not actually sink his razor-sharp canines into her flesh-but the threat of injury is clear. By repeating this behavior hundreds of times, the male lays claim to particular females months or even years before mating with them. When a female comes into estrus, she solicits sex only from her harem master, and other males rarely challenge his sexual rights to her.

It gets better.

Maybe this is where Mobombed got some of his ideas?

OT and Apes aside, MSNBC is covering the memorial service for Tim Russert. It's a great tribute and somewhat of a 'Roast'. Apparently Luke doing the seating chart put Obama and McCain side by side. I think Tim would have liked that idea

re: #110 Honorary Yooper

Maybe not. The interpretation is Sea of Reeds, not Red Sea, and chariot wheels could have gotten there very easily either by shipwreck, or by being dumped off a ship.

Or planted by a Darwinist!
/
*ducks and runs*

Man gets death sentence for blasphemy

A PAKISTANI man has been sentenced to death for blasphemy after he defiled the Muslim holy book and used derogatory language to refer to the Prophet Mohammad, a police official said.

/it's . . . a Muslim day in the neighborhood, a Muslim day in the neighborhood

re: #113 Just Above Average

OT and Apes aside, MSNBC is covering the memorial service for Tim Russert. It's a great tribute and somewhat of a 'Roast'. Apparently Luke doing the seating chart put Obama and McCain side by side. I think Tim would have liked that idea

Probably uncomfortable for Obama being that he is such a pussy.

re: #110 Honorary Yooper

There are ALWAYS other reasons for everything.

re: #116 carbon footprint

Probably uncomfortable for Obama being that he is such a pussy.

No kidding, you can just see John McCain with his wink and his thumbs up saying hello "my friend" to him can't you.

S

re: #116 carbon footprint

You're right. Obama does look a little pale//

re: #113 Just Above Average

OT and Apes aside, MSNBC is covering the memorial service for Tim Russert. It's a great tribute and somewhat of a 'Roast'. Apparently Luke doing the seating chart put Obama and McCain side by side. I think Tim would have liked that idea

McCain is used to sitting next to Communists.

re: #110 Honorary Yooper

I cannot tell a lie, Sheriff Opie; I put that chariot wheel underneath that sea.

Very OT:

Was there ever a consensus on the birth certificate Obambi released through Kos? Dealing with family stuff and missed a few days, so I'm kind of out of the loop.

Open evolution thread!

re: #118 SusanL

No kidding, you can just see John McCain with his wink and his thumbs up saying hello "my friend" to him can't you.

S

Exactly. I KNOW that Obama is afraid of McCain. McCain is a man. Obama is a metrosexual, spoiled brat. Obama is going to have to do some great acting when the two of them are debating. It would not surprise me if McCain pulls him aside sometime and says: "Listen you little sh1t, I will ficking chew your pansy ass and spit the remains down your G Damned neck.

re: #119 Just Above Average

Haha...wait, did you say "pale". That's an outrage!1!

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Open evolution thread!

Open Creationism Thread!

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

If Vishnus were horses, beggars would ride.

The same old fears.
Visnhu were here.

re: #120 faraway

McCain is used to sitting next to Communists.

And Obama isn't? Ouch

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Open evolution thread!

There is no Intelligence in this discussion ;P

re: #116 carbon footprint

Probably uncomfortable for Obama being that he is such a pussy.

Okay. Since you brought it up.

[Link: thestoneoftear.blogspot.com...]

You evolution folks agree with obambi, so you've got that going for you, which is nice.

re: #130 Conservative in Liberal Hands

By design.

I love how Obama referred to Russert as 'My Friend." How well could they really have known each other, since the lightworker is new to the national scene?

re: #122 shibumi

It seems like a legit version printed by the state lately, but not the original from 1961.

My questions however:
1. Where is the embossed state seal?
2. Where is the "Date of Issue"

re: #125 carbon footprint

easy there,obama is going to be debating john mccain,not r lee ermey.

re: #128 Occasional Reader

The same old fears.
Visnhu were here.

Gah[nesh]. I mean, "Vishnu".

re: #130 Conservative in Liberal Hands

There is no Intelligence in this discussion ;P

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

re: #128 Occasional Reader

The same old fears.
Visnhu were here.

No, living in a fishbowl.

re: #126 carbon footprint

Haha...wait, did you say "pale". That's an outrage!1!

I'm a newbie and that was an official attempt at humor, but I am not familiar with
!1! Guidance please

re: #127 jcm

No turtles for you.

McCain better hurry and have a pic made with some Muslim chicks today.

there is not a spot where G-d is not

re: #136 Boondock St. Bender

easy there,obama is going to be debating john mccain,not r lee ermey.

Now that WOULD be funny.

"You look like the type who would meet with a dictator without preconditions, and then have the courtesy to give him a reach-around! DO YOU HEAR ME, CANDIDATE GOMER PYLE?"

re: #137 Occasional Reader

Gah[nesh]. I mean, "Vishnu".

Gezundheidt!

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

I'm mocking turtles, all the way down.

I like their soup. (and their necks)

re: #142 faraway

eh,muslim chicks,ninjas,someone in a gimp suit...whatever.

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

I'm mocking turtles, all the way down.

Do they repeat everything you say?

re: #135 faraway

It seems like a legit version printed by the state lately, but not the original from 1961.

My questions however:
1. Where is the embossed state seal?
2. Where is the "Date of Issue"

This is what I read recently, addressed some of the same questions you have:

questions about obama birth certificate

The above site is interesting, but not always completely accurate. Reminds me of debka. That's why I asked. : )

re: #147 jamgarr

I like their soup. (and their necks)

Turtle burgers are good. had one in the Cayman Islands.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

That would be priceless!

Male Homosexuality Can Be Explained Through A Specific Model Of Darwinian Evolution, Study Shows

An Italian research team, consisting of Andrea Camperio Ciani and Giovanni Zanzotto at the University of Padova and Paolo Cermelli at the University of Torino, found that the evolutionary origin and maintenance of male homosexuality in human populations could be explained by a model based around the idea of sexually antagonistic selection, in which genetic factors spread in the population by giving a reproductive advantage to one sex while disadvantaging the other.

re: #88 lurking faith

I love that stuff. I don't crash; in fact frequently I feel better for a couple of DAYS from one dose, just because it clears my sinuses so effectively that it takes a long time before they fill up again.

I try to avoid it because I know it's not exactly the safest thing to take, but sometimes nothing else will do the job.

I used to love Psuedoephedrine. Unfortunately, I develop a tolerance to it rather quickly and I have to take larger doses. 60mg is also supposed to last 4-6 hours. It lasts maybe 3.5 on me.
It's actually fairly safe from what I've seen. Now, Ephedra almost put me in the hospital. It's real easy to OD on the stuff. Drinking caffeine with it can put you over the safe zone.

re: #146 eschew_obfuscation

Gezundheidt!

I used to love asking a former Japanese girlfriend what was the largest island in Japan. "Honshu." Gezundheit! Worked every time.

re: #141 Killgore Trout

No turtles for you.

Whaaaa! How can I get to paradise without the turtle to convey me!
That's soooo mean!

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Male Homosexuality Can Be Explained Through A Specific Model Of Darwinian Evolution, Study Shows

Survival of the Fabulous?

re: #150 shibumi

The state seal must be on the front. I have seen many, many birth certificates.

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

I'm mocking turtles, all the way down.

Mock turtle necks all the way down!
Softer landing that way....

re: #151 opnion

Turtle burgers are good. had one in the Cayman Islands.

Nothing like some good mock turtle soup chased down by some mock apple pie! Yum!

Is there a particular reason why the California Court's decision to start allowing Homosexual marriage hasn't been discussed at LGF yet?

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Male Homosexuality Can Be Explained Through A Specific Model Of Darwinian Evolution, Study Shows

Isn't that special!

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Next: Darwin blamed for Folsom Street Fair.

re: #163 jcm
So, now you guys evolved from gay monkeys. haha

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

That joke was "in bad taste" and "below the belt".

re: #162 WrathofG-d

Is there a particular reason why the California Court's decision to start allowing Homosexual marriage hasn't been discussed at LGF yet?

It has. I posted about it more than a week ago, when the decision was announced.

Charles,

Would Anthropogenic Global Warming articles be too off-topic for LGF links?

Here, for example is a link I would post regarding that old phrase, "it ain't the heat so much, as it is th' humidity."

A Window on Water Vapor and Planetary Temperature

{ Assume the, ...and stuff }

30 nuclear power plants in three months...

Sounds a bit ambitious. But at least get the financing and engineering in order. And do what the French do (yeah, they had a good idea), they perfected a power plant design, and stuck with it. We custom-built ours, and had a lot of problems with cost and breaking in.

re: #168 Charles

Oh right. Had forgotten that.

re: #165 jaunte

Next: Darwin blamed for Folsom Street Fair.

It's kind of analogous to the Galapagos. Sort of. In a way.

re: #167 WrathofG-d

That joke was "in bad taste" and "below the belt".

You sound spitting mad. (sorry)

re: #174 Hard Right

not really but the jokes were a bit hard to swallow.

re: #166 faraway

So, now you guys evolved from gay monkeys. haha

The "Missing Link" will henceforth be known as "Onnnne... singular sensation, every time he stands erect..."

[heh, I said "erect"]

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

That was no finch, that was a nuthatch.

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

Both are isolated gene pools.

There's an Andrew Sullivan/HMS Beagle joke in here somewhere.

re: #176 WrathofG-d

not really but the jokes were a bit hard to swallow.

Nuts to you.

I don't believe humans have chimpanzee ancestors.

Chimpanzees and humans might have a common ancestor, but I don't believe humans evolved from chimpanzees.

But what do I know? I am a sleestak.

donk congresscriters now say NATIONALIZE OIL that going to work

YEAH RIGHT

re: #183 yochanan

donk congresscriters now say NATIONALIZE OIL that going to work

YEAH RIGHT

Yeah, give control to the idiots that created the problem in the first place.

re: #34 WrathofG-d

The New Alliyah Sticker

Well, I hope people heed the warning before the exit gates are locked.

re: #183 yochanan

Agreed! What will happen when, Royal Dutch Shell, for instance, stops selling in the USA. Nationalize what? The retail outlets? EPA calling...

re: #97 WrathofG-d

point 1 for G-d

Excellent.

Hey, if the government can run the oil industry as well as it's run Amtrak...

re: #170 mardukhai

30 nuclear power plants in three months...

Sounds a bit ambitious. But at least get the financing and engineering in order. And do what the French do (yeah, they had a good idea), they perfected a power plant design, and stuck with it. We custom-built ours, and had a lot of problems with cost and breaking in.

That would get the Saudi's panties in a bunch!

re: #97 WrathofG-d

point 1 for G-d

Specially this part

re: #170 mardukhai

30 nuclear power plants in three months...

Sounds a bit ambitious. But at least get the financing and engineering in order. And do what the French do (yeah, they had a good idea), they perfected a power plant design, and stuck with it. We custom-built ours, and had a lot of problems with cost and breaking in.

Part of the reason they are custom built is due to regulations and endless lawsuits from NIMBYs and enviro-nuts.

re: #190 shibumi

That would get the Saudi's panties in a bunch!

Do they wear panties? Just askin

So...

I finally got around to ripping the only two Led Zeppelin CD's (ok five) I own to my PC.

The BBC Sessions (1999) and How The West Was Won (2003).

I notice that both CD's give the proper writing credits to the many blues artists Zeppelin had ripped off along the way.

Later this evening I'll take a peek at the vinyl Zep I have, (all up to Presence), but I don't think those credits are mentioned on any of those albums.

I know this has been discussed here before, when did Jimmy Page have his honesty epiphany?

FORGOTTEN
LEGIONS,
R

re: #185 taxfreekiller

#169

this is better

Global Fraud has a special thread used on its zipper, the thread broke and Al Gore fell out.

...but he was too small to notice?

{ Assume the usual. }

re: #194 Render

So...

I finally got around to ripping the only two Led Zeppelin CD's (ok five) I own to my PC.

The BBC Sessions (1999) and How The West Was Won (2003).

I notice that both CD's give the proper writing credits to the many blues artists Zeppelin had ripped off along the way.

Later this evening I'll take a peek at the vinyl Zep I have, (all up to Presence), but I don't think those credits are mentioned on any of those albums.

I know this has been discussed here before, when did Jimmy Page have his honesty epiphany?

FORGOTTEN
LEGIONS,
R

Right after some very large "lawyers" paid him a visit.
/

re: #183 yochanan

donk congresscriters now say NATIONALIZE OIL that going to work

YEAH RIGHT

So wait, we are supposed to allow drilling for oil, against the will of the Congress for over 5 (or so) years, then put it into the hands of the people that were forbidding it? What...so they can go back to (a) doing nothing or (b) making it illegal to drill again?

re: #189 Occasional Reader

IF THE GOV'T RUNS OIL LIKE IT RUNS AMTRAK GET YOUR BIKE

and not the kind that takes gasoline

re: #132 VegasRick

Uh, don't see your point. Please clarify.

Bill the kitten is 1.5 pounds of utter chaos. He's got Bob, the older cat, effectively terrorized.

/thank God he can only go full bore for about an hour at a time before he needs to crash again

re: #189 Occasional Reader

Or how 'bout that postal service.
(I know, some of you may work for the USPO and if you do, I sincerely apologize.)

re: #190 shibumi

That would get the Saudi's panties in a bunch!

I'm not real clear on how that would work.......we only get between 2% and 10% of our electrical power from oil. I doubt the Saudis would notice.

Just on Neil Cavuto: dems want to nationalize oil refineries. I thought Maxine Waters was off her rocker when she suggested it to oil execs a couple weeks ago, but now I see that this is going to be pushed by others of the party. Obama supporters backing the idea.

re: #202 Killian Bundy

Ooh, that guy looks mean!

Abiogenesis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life

The question shouldn't be how we got here, but where we are going from here.

re: #140 Just Above Average

Haha, it is l33t speak. Google it. Nerdy interwebz stuff.

re: #192 Hard Right

Part of the reason they are custom built is due to regulations and endless lawsuits from NIMBYs and enviro-nuts.

Hey, I'm all for building more nukes. But I wish folks would separate the power grid problems from the transportation ones. We use a tiny amount of petroleum in power generation. So, for the purposes of the discussions on oil, nukes barely matter.

Another thing: nukes "supplant" power generation. They don't eliminate the need for coal or hydro plants entirely.

We need to drill. Now is good. Hell, I'd bet even with Google Earth, few people could find an oil well in ANWR. Drill several!

Besides, we can still invent our way out of dependence on oil for transportation. That way we get back to making more stuff out of plastic!

{ Now nukular cars, especially flyin' cars, well, that'd be somethin'. }

re: #136 Boondock St. Bender

Well, if I am wrong I will be the first to admit it, but I truly believe McCain's going to sweep the floor with him in the debates and townhall events. The speeches are another story. Ouch.

re: #194 Render

When enough people called them on it.

ONLY ONE OF
MANY.

hey that was fun!

re: #206 CatsPaw

Ooh, that guy looks mean!

He's 3/4 Exotic, they all look like they're pouting. Actually, he's incredibly friendly.

/Bob just isn't used to Bill's stratospheric level of friendliness and "play"

re: #211 carbon footprint

he should be able to.mcCain has to keep obama of balence early.and make him go into areas not prepared for.

re: #214 Boondock St. Bender

I hope. And the more "uhs" and "ums" that Obama utters/stutters will make him appear worse for wear.

re: #202 Killian Bundy

Kittens are terrors. I've seen hundred pound dogs cower in fear from half a pound of kitten.

Extreme Irony from the Boss, B. Hussein O. Supporter.

Magic - Bruce Springsteen

Magic

I got a coin in your palm
I can make it disappear
I got a card up my sleeve
Name it and I'll pull it out your ear
I got a rabbit in the hat
If you wanna come and see
This is what will be
This is what will be

I got shackles on my wrists
Soon I'll slip and I'll be gone
Chain me in a box in the river
And rising in the sun
Trust none of what you hear
And less of what you see
This is what will be (This is what will be)
This is what will be

[Instrumental]

(I'll cut you in half)

I got a shiny saw blade (a shiny saw blade)
All I need's a volunteer
I'll cut you in half
While you're smilin' ear to ear
And the freedom that you sought
Driftin' like a ghost amongst the trees
This is what will be
This is what will be (This is what will be)

Now there's a fire down below
But it's coming up here
So leave everything you know
Carry only what you fear
On the road the sun is sinkin' low
Bodies hanging in the trees
This is what will be (This is what will be)
This is what will be
----
Wow.
-Taq

re: #202 Killian Bundy

Bill the kitten is 1.5 pounds of utter chaos. He's got Bob, the older cat, effectively terrorized.

/thank God he can only go full bore for about an hour at a time before he needs to crash again

Oh God! that look....
"If I had hands, I'd rule the WORLD! BAWHAHAHAHA!

re: #216 Dianna

Kittens are terrors. I've seen hundred pound dogs cower in fear from half a pound of kitten.

/they have zero fear

re: #218 taxfreekiller

Of Some Note on the Democrats, Obama and the 5 loon liberals on the supreme court.

All worried about these islamic ones of terror.

They say they are for minority rights, they claim the ones of terror are "persons" so they come under the Constitution......

YO, DEMOCRATS

RAMOS AND COMPEAN ARE THEY PERSONS OR NOT...........?

YOU KNOW MEXICAN AMERICANS LOCKED UP BY YOUR NO. ONE BAD GUY GEORGE BUSH AND NOT A PEEP....

WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT,
YO ,, LA RAZA YOU GOONS GIVING OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS A PASS ON THAT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

That's easy. It's math.

Two Americans that probably don't support La Raza, vs. 20 million Mexicans that will if they're told/paid to do so.

re: #213 Killian Bundy

Kinda looks like Winston Churchill

re: #220 Killian Bundy

/they have zero fear

Cats are the gangbangers of the animal kingdom.

re: #210 K~Bob

Hey, I'm all for building more nukes. But I wish folks would separate the power grid problems from the transportation ones. We use a tiny amount of petroleum in power generation. So, for the purposes of the discussions on oil, nukes barely matter.

Another thing: nukes "supplant" power generation. They don't eliminate the need for coal or hydro plants entirely.

We need to drill. Now is good. Hell, I'd bet even with Google Earth, few people could find an oil well in ANWR. Drill several!

Besides, we can still invent our way out of dependence on oil for transportation. That way we get back to making more stuff out of plastic!

{ Now nukular cars, especially flyin' cars, well, that'd be somethin'. }

They also forget that we have a huge need for plastics. In fact, the oil companies make more money off that than oil!

re: #224 Hard Right

They also forget that we have a huge need for plastics. In fact, the oil companies make more money off that than oil!

I would like to see more nuke electric plants. Then I can have that electric car for short trips. That much less oil needed.

Also, cheap electricity could be used in the frozen North for heating, freeing up oil.

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Favorite moment, from long ago: Xena was about 14 weeks, and sitting in the hall. Chauma, the 3/4 wolf of the house, who was very jealous, stood over her, opened her mouth and brought it down over Xena.

I gasped.

Chauma swiveled her eyes to me, and very, very slowly, opened her jaws and lifted her head.

Xena just looked around her, shook herself, then did the shoulder butt to Chauma.

No fear at all.

OT, sorry if this has already been posted:

After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.

[Link: tennesseepolicy.org...]

Bummer.

re: #225 OldLineTexan

I would like to see more nuke electric plants. Then I can have that electric car for short trips. That much less oil needed.

Also, cheap electricity could be used in the frozen North for heating, freeing up oil.

I'm guessing cheap electricity would probably not make much diff north of say, the 60th parallel. Cheaper oil would be cheaper to "distribute" than cheap electricity. Unless everyone gets their own "Mr. Fusion". With such a low pop density there, they could burn oil all they want and never make a dent on the greenhouse gas density.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

Oh my, Is there no end to your wrath.
If I was not nearly in tears, I'd laugh.
For all who adore science above all else,
Would degrade us all to the purposes of self.
Decline from all the worship of the Devine One,
Over the browsings and meanderings of some,
Brings all to the dependance of mans' own thought,
And woe to the beauty that He has brought.

i believe people will heat there homes the cheapest way possible

THE ATHEIST AND THE RABBI

PBS film critic and columnist Michael Medved has shared this anecdote
out of his Jewish heritage:

A few years ago, Rabbi Jacob Karmenetzky made a trip to Israel accompanied
by his teenage grandson. Ironically, these two deeply religious people
were seated in the airplane next to a prominent Israeli socialist leader
and outspoken atheist.

On the flight, the cynical atheist traveler couldn't help noticing the way
the teenage boy attended to the needs of his aged, bearded grandfather. He
got up to get the old man a glass of water, helped him remove his shoes and
put on some slippers, and otherwise demonstrated that the rabbi's comfort
represented his primary concern.

At one point, as the boy got up for yet another errand on behalf of the old
man, the atheist could contain himself no longer. "Tell me something," he
asked the rabbi. "Why does your grandson treat you like some kind of a
king? I have a grandson, too, but he wouldn't give me the time of day."

"It's very simple," the old man replied. "My grandson and I both believe
in a God who rules the universe and created all things, including the first
man. That means that in the boy's eyes, I'm two generations closer to the
hand of God Himself. But in the eyes of your grandson, you're just two
generations closer to a monkey."

re: #227 UFO TOFU

OT, sorry if this has already been posted:

After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.

[Link: tennesseepolicy.org...]

Bummer.

ROFLMAO FUNNY

re: #218 taxfreekiller

Of Some Note on the Democrats, Obama and the 5 loon liberals on the supreme court.

You count more liberals than I do.

re: #19 faraway

Hey, if you guys think you came from a monkey, who am I to stop you:)

Chimps are actually Hominids, not monkeys.

}:)     [There I go again, shooting facts everywhere ... ]

re: #192 Hard Right

Part of the reason they are custom built is due to regulations and endless lawsuits from NIMBYs and enviro-nuts.

I wonder what the modern energy / environmental debate would look like if so many anti-war protesters in the 70s didn't seamlessly switch to "no nukes." Nuclear power has zero carbon footprint, no particulate matter (that stuff that makes our Los Angeles sunsets so beautiful), and a waste product that can be contained (there is no plutonium in the steam).

How many cases of asthma, lung cancer, COPD, and other maladies could have been avoided if we had transitioned over to nuclear power during the last 30 years, instead of not building a single plant?

Here's to hoping that nuclear power can make a comeback.

re: #19 faraway

Hey, if you guys think you came from a monkey, who am I to stop you:)

Technically, we evolutionists believe we (everything) evolved from blue-green algae. Chimps are just are closest cousin that survives.

re: #234 Kulhwch

Chimps are actually Hominids, not monkeys.

}:)     [There I go again, shooting facts everywhere ... ]

hominid |ˈhäməˌnid|
noun Zoology
a primate of a family ( Hominidae) that includes humans and their fossil ancestors.
ORIGIN late 19th cent.: from modern Latin Hominidae (plural), from Latin homo, homin- ‘man.’

chimpanzee |ˌ ch imˌpanˈzē; -pənˈzē; -ˈpanzē|
noun
a great ape with large ears, mainly black coloration, and lighter skin on the face, native to the forests of western and central Africa. Chimpanzees show advanced behavior such as the making and using of tools. • Genus Pan, family Pongidae: the common chimpanzee ( P. troglodytes) and the bonobo.

test

re: #236 Dainn

Technically, we evolutionists believe we (everything) evolved from blue-green algae. Chimps are just are closest cousin that survives.

You can't even account for the complexity of the information required to produce glue-green algae.

In the near future , evolutionism will come to be known as a late twentieth century cult that formed in response to a temporary lack of information. It will be known as a cult because of the obstinacy of its disciples in the face of contradictory evidence.

re: #239 SnakeFarm

OR blue-green algae! :)

re: Palestinian Car Swarms

Here is the latest.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Recalling FAUXtography, THIS is what a car that gets hit by a missile looks like, not those BS Lebanese intact ambulances.