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Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:42:44 pm PDT

People say that money is not the key to happiness, but I always figured if you have enough money, you can have a key made.

Joan Rivers

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1 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:43:35pm

Only evening here. ;)

2 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:43:36pm

Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can rent it

3 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:45:39pm

I'm more then willing to try out being rich. If I don't like it I can always go back to being poor.
// {;-)™

4 Attaboid  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:46:59pm

I'm willing to try it.

5 Attaboid  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:48:09pm
6 rockdad  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:49:34pm

Not the key, but certainly one vehicle.

7 Carridine  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:49:46pm

Gotta switch work environs...

BBIAW as Karridine

8 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:49:52pm

Hello, everyone, here's my latest:
Give Us Liberty, Give Them Death

9 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:52:10pm

I'm not convinced about this whole money not buying happiness business. Clothes and high-end cookware make me very happy. I'd be willing to give money a try.

10 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:52:46pm

Money's not everything, but it's a Whole lot.

11 psyop  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:53:26pm

Have a great night!

I must go, maybe wreak some havoc somewhere. Start an insurrection, I dunno.

I am kinda bored...

12 winston06  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:53:41pm

have a good night every one

13 gop_patriot  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:53:45pm

If I had enough money*, I'd buy one of these.

*you know, won a zillion dollars in the lottery

14 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:56:19pm

You know, the worst part about trying to drill your way out of an oil crises is that you end up with all this oil! Sheeesh. Then you have too much oil and the price goes down , so people think they are entitled to drive, manufacture, breed...Ewwwww. We must stop it now!

15 blink  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:57:13pm

Obama is a buffon on foreign policy and McCain appears to have (mostly) the right answers on energy policy. How can November be anything but a win?

16 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:58:20pm

well cant say much my better half of 16 years had a minor breakdown probably because meds arent working threw shit at me and totally flipped out i couldnt reason with her called 911 cops made her go to crisis who only seen her after she calmed down so they released her oh and to get back at me she gave or told the cops where i had a joint stashed so now i'm looking at a 300-500 dollar fine and need to find a cheap place where i can move to with my cats the worst part she is now off the new meds and in a day or two will be really nice to me i might have to tell the magistrate to just give me 30-90 days since i refuse to do probation or give the weasels the fine money

17 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:59:04pm

re: #15 blink

Obama is a buffon on foreign policy and McCain appears to have (mostly) the right answers on energy policy. How can November be anything but a win?

When the entire MSM of the USA (sans FOXNEWS), spins everything in Obama's favor and paints McCain as an out of touch OLD GUY.....then, what should be an easy win, turns into a crushing defeat

18 rawmuse  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 9:59:44pm

After spending a night in the Newark Airport, my own bed is bliss. Never book the last flight out, my advice.

19 Drained Brain  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:00:35pm

Joan Rivers needs a key for her mouth.

20 republic  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:01:05pm

I see more Dems in Congress want to take over the oil companies.

Where will these freak leftist/communist Democrats stop?

I have ideas, but I'll keep them to myself.

21 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:03:08pm

re: #16 JimmyTheClaw

Wow! That's a drag.

22 republic  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:03:48pm

re: #17 Desert Dog

When the entire MSM of the USA (sans FOXNEWS), spins everything in Obama's favor and paints McCain as an out of touch OLD GUY.....then, what should be an easy win, turns into a crushing defeat

The media did the same thing with Jon Carry vs Bush in 2004, and they even spotted Kerry a "winning in a landslide" media push to try and keep mid and western voters home, and Bush still won.

I still, until proven otherwise, have faith in the average hard working Americans, who will decide this next election.

23 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:04:01pm

re: #16 JimmyTheClaw

well cant say much my better half of 16 years had a minor breakdown probably because meds arent working threw shit at me and totally flipped out i couldnt reason with her called 911 cops made her go to crisis who only seen her after she calmed down so they released her oh and to get back at me she gave or told the cops where i had a joint stashed so now i'm looking at a 300-500 dollar fine and need to find a cheap place where i can move to with my cats the worst part she is now off the new meds and in a day or two will be really nice to me i might have to tell the magistrate to just give me 30-90 days since i refuse to do probation or give the weasels the fine money

Sheesh. A joint? $120 and go home. Tell the Judge you needed something to bring you back when the old lady was sane. You did all you could. But just couldn't deal with mood drugs. By the way, the warrant was bad. (there was none)

24 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:04:56pm

re: #22 republic

I hope you are right...I really, really hope you are right

25 blink  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:06:06pm

re: #22 republic

I have to agree with you.

26 republic  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:06:33pm

re: #24 Desert Dog

I hope you are right...I really, really hope you are right

It always looks darkest before the dawn.

27 republic  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:09:19pm

G'night all!

:)

28 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:09:23pm

re: #15 blink

Obama is a buffon on foreign policy and McCain appears to have (mostly) the right answers on energy policy. How can November be anything but a win?

Because no one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public?

Actually, I think McCain will win, prepare for seething from NOI.

And all these predictions of Obama winning will help. Obama supporters will stay home and all the McCain supporters will vote.

And we might still have a nice, unscripted Obama moment on national TV that really shows how empty he is.

On the other hand, Soros could screw up the economy so much people hope for change.

29 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:09:46pm

re: #16 JimmyTheC re: #16 JimmyTheClaw

sorry for your troubles--reminds me of savage nation--last i heard from him, his wife asked him for a divorce--sigh

30 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:09:56pm

re: #26 republic

Jon Carry is and was an assh*le.....Obama is a black guy (a clean and articulate one). He also has a fanatical following that John F-ing Kerry could only dream of. This is different than 2004, much different. GWB had his problems, but, in the end the American electorate trusted him more. Obama is a different candidate than Kerry. Looking at this election with your eyes wide open, it would seem McCain should win.....but, I am very worried about this election, very worried....

31 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:10:12pm

re: #23 pat

Sheesh. A joint? $120 and go home. Tell the Judge you needed something to bring you back when the old lady was sane. You did all you could. But just couldn't deal with mood drugs. By the way, the warrant was bad. (there was none)

actually the cop was cool in fact he asked me what to do with it (i said dump it and squish it underfoot) i guess i will have to wait to see what he does with a little weed and my pipe but i'm pissed because they wont take her seriously till she threatens me or herself with a carving knife (local mental health system really sucks they are pill pushers not able to treat mental illness) really bummed out they also pointed out my drivers licence is expired so i cannot even get her to doctor now

32 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:10:25pm

re: #22 republic

[Snip...]

I still, until proven otherwise, have faith in the average hard working Americans, who will decide this next election.

I still remember 1976 when Jimmy Carter was put in the White House by the stupid voter looking for change. I'm expecting the even dumber voter of 2008 to put Obama in the White House this year hoping that things will really change this time.

33 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:11:07pm

At this time in '04 the MSM had already declared John F'n Kerry the winner.

History repeats itself.

34 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:11:39pm

Not to go off on a rant here but it is always the others guys elected official that is a worthless piece of shit,not Bob,hell I voted for him twice...the school system sucks,but not our school,hell Ms. Jennings does shit that is good for them kids at our school even if she does talk about Castro as a God...I am all for nuclear power 800 miles away, I went to wal-mart in the next County and I was the only person speaking english,but that would never happen here...my boy isn`t in a gang,it`s all them other boys...them police tried to frame my daughter for what them assholes had in the car when they was giving her a ride home...I trust my city council and I will be damned if them lying ass fed`s say they took bribes...talk about my Pastor like that, I`ll kick your ass...honey I swear I had to work late...yesterday!

35 rawmuse  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:12:31pm

re: #32 Da_Beerfreak

I think you may be correct. If McCain keeps drinking deeply from the Cup of Stupid, we may be singing Hail to Da Chief.

36 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:13:33pm

hmm-expired drivers license--pipe and dope--any personal resonsiblity there ?

37 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:18:43pm

did i kill the thread? hello?

38 philosoteric  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:19:33pm

High school really ruined physics for me. I had an interest in it for a while as a kid; I read "The Universe in a Nutshell" unceasingly. I got out of it, for some reason that is now lost to me. Then high school came along and threw me all these curve balls that left a dent in my head = I really started hating physics.

Then within the past few days I started thinking about it again, and I realized that my problem wasn't with physics: it was the math entangled with it. As long as I keep away from the math (and approach it very cautiously), I can understand the concepts just fine.

And I'd completely forgotten how much fun it is.

39 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:21:32pm

re: #37 mikeymom

I'm still here, awaiting witty repose and rapier wit

40 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:21:38pm

Do the Right Thing — Start Drilling
by Victor Davis Hanson

41 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:22:19pm

re: #17 Desert Dog

I recently hosted visitors from the mid-west (where I originally hail from) and they're not exactly staunch conservatives (teachers union) but they were vehemently anti-Obama. They also gave me an indication that nobody they knew back home was either. They didn't know what he was all about (they're from Illinois!) and they were worried about his lack of experience. It gave me some hope that regular people aren't being fooled.

42 kynna  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:23:18pm

re: #35 rawmuse

I think you may be correct. If McCain keeps drinking deeply from the Cup of Stupid, we may be singing Hail to Da Chief.

Having McCain as a candidate is like watching a blind guy wander unknowingly onto a tightrope. You can yell directions, but if he doesn't get it, he's going to fall.

Unfortunately, he's going to fall on us. :o

43 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:23:36pm

well really-pot head--didnt renew license-what do you think? im not tolent of that sart of behavior

44 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:24:22pm

re: #30 Desert Dog
Being worried is natural. Really. But I've seen the breakdown in polls and when they get to the question of "trust" McCain beat Obama hands down, even among Dems and Independents. I also think that the majority of the Democratic Party could call itself the silent majority. Obama's base is made up, almost entirely, by the extreme left wing of the Dem party.
I still think the reason a majority of voters went for Bush v Kerry (and a real majority, over 50%) was because they trusted Bush, in spite of all the lying and conniving the MSM did (remember Rathergate and the phenominally GREAT WORK done by Charles?). And I still think the majority of Americans, once they're inside the voting booth, will pull the lever for the candidate they trust the most.

45 DrJen  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:24:43pm

Re: #8 Bosch Fawstin

Hello, everyone, here's my latest:
Give Us Liberty, Give Them Death

Nice. Mr. Bolton would make the U.S. a force to be reckoned with in the global political arena.

46 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:24:51pm

re: #31 JimmyTheClaw

Take deep breath. Deal with issues one at time. Drivers license, family doctor (who will not be concerned about joint unless you have high blood pressure) about issues, wife's medications with her doctor, letter to wife of your concern. Menopause and near menopause is a bitch. Particularly to women who believe that they should not have to work anymore.

47 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:25:18pm

re: #40 DesertSage

Saudi Arabia, and the rest of OPEC make nothing. They did not even find and develop the largess they have been bestowed.....they are just lucky....hard work, innovation, cultural values and responsibility have not been part of their histories......

48 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:26:10pm

Time is not money. Your time is more valuble then money. Money allows you to free more time.

49 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:26:30pm

re: #31 JimmyTheClaw

actually the cop was cool in fact he asked me what to do with it (i said dump it and squish it underfoot) i guess i will have to wait to see what he does with a little weed and my pipe but i'm pissed because they wont take her seriously till she threatens me or herself with a carving knife (local mental health system really sucks they are pill pushers not able to treat mental illness) really bummed out they also pointed out my drivers licence is expired so i cannot even get her to doctor now

Minus the joint- and not that there's anything wrong with that- I just went through the same thing a few years ago with now ex-wife #2.

Sorry that you're having to go through this. It's a horror story for anyone to live through.

Oh, and hello, everyone.

50 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:26:31pm

re: #42 kynna

To put it in a nutshell...McCain was the most politically correct the republicans had to offer...!

51 xleatherneck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:27:25pm

#22 republic
I still, until proven otherwise, have faith in the average hard working Americans, who will decide this next election.


And exactly how do you define, in terms of behavior and belief, the "average hard working American?" Good luck trying to answer that, and even better luck trying to get people to agree.

The bottom line is that McCain can not win without the support of the conservative base, and right now, he doesn't have it.

52 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:28:01pm

re: #46 pat

WHAT? menopause? i went through it--a hot flash or three-- didnt make me smoke dope-or go crazy like jmmys wife-

53 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:28:56pm

re: #48 BlueCanuck

Time is not money. Your time is more valuble then money. Money allows you to free more time.

Bums have a lot of free time I hear.

/

Hi Blue

54 MikeySDCA  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:29:19pm

"People who say money can't buy happiness don't know where to shop."

Quote from someone.

55 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:29:46pm

Sorry my post was confusing - nobody back home in Ill. was pro-Obama is what I meant.
PIMF! If anybody cares! :)

56 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:29:59pm
57 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:30:21pm

re: #38 philosoteric

I was the opposite. I did great in high school physics, but I never really grasped the basic concepts. What little I did understand I've happily forgotten.
But I love math and was always good at it.
I'd rather solve a bunch of meaningless equations than understand why something works the way the way it does!

58 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:30:51pm

Money won't buy you good health. It may buy you the best medical care in the World, but sometimes even that won't save you.
I'll take good health over all the money I could dream of.

59 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:31:55pm

re: #46 pat

Take deep breath. Deal with issues one at time. Drivers license, family doctor (who will not be concerned about joint unless you have high blood pressure) about issues, wife's medications with her doctor, letter to wife of your concern. Menopause and near menopause is a bitch. Particularly to women who believe that they should not have to work anymore.

re: #52 mikeymom

WHAT? menopause? i went through it--a hot flash or three-- didnt make me smoke dope-or go crazy like jmmys wife-

Sounds more like he is describing a mental health issue with his wife, not menopause. IMHO.

60 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:32:33pm

re: #36 mikeymom

hmm-expired drivers license--pipe and dope--any personal resonsiblity there ?

drivers license was my bad but a pipe and a pinch of weed deep inside my desk drawer are different (she said well if i'm goin down so is he) and worst of all i cant just up and go and move 15 years has a lot of baggage and a lot of our stuff is tied together on the third i will squirell 50 bucks aside to renew my drivers license but untill then i have to barricade a door to sleep which really sucks

61 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:32:50pm

re: #52 mikeymom

But combined with a certain expectation of unfullfilled dreams or social status, it can be a debilitating thing. That is all I am saying.

62 slokat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:33:40pm

re: #38 philosoteric

You could always try building machines and systems that illustrate the properties without solving the equations (since others have solved them before).

63 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:34:07pm

re: #53 AmeriDan

Bums have a lot of free time I hear.

/

Hi Blue

Yeah, but I wouldn't want a bums lifestyle. :p

/dealt with too many of them.

64 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:34:13pm

Ok this thread seems to be alive!

/searching for a live thread!

//Not a bad title for a song lol

65 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:34:45pm

re: #51 xleatherneck

I agree.....I held my nose and voted for Bush in 2000....then in 2004, I did the same....he was not what I wanted, but 100000000% better than the alternative. He at least paid lip service to conservatives and counted on them to come out in droves to elect him (which we did). McCain seems to regard the conservative wing of his party as part of the problem. We will not come out in droves for him. Add that fact to almost cult-like status Sen. Obama has.....it will be closer than the optimists in this blog think it will be.....even with Obama's Gaffe machine running full blast and his naive and irresponsible policies.....McCain is not very motivating and will not inspire anyone to come out and vote. Only FEAR of what Obama wants to do will achieve that.......

66 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:34:57pm

re: #58 realwest

Money won't buy you good health. It may buy you the best medical care in the World, but sometimes even that won't save you.
I'll take good health over all the money I could dream of.

It won't buy real friends either.

Friends are good.

67 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:35:13pm

re: #64 MigueldowninMexico

Ok this thread seems to be alive!

/searching for a live thread!

//Not a bad title for a song lol

Translation: looking for the worm in the bottle.

68 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:35:34pm

re: #67 pat

Translation: looking for the worm in the bottle.

Hic! ;)

69 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:35:40pm

re: #61 pat

and jimmys last post was cognizant?

70 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:35:47pm

re: #51 xleatherneck
Sorry to disagree with you, but the bottom line for conservatives is vote for McCain or watch Obama and a HUGE majority of Dems in both houses change America in ways that would take us all decades to undo.
And no, McCain wasn't anything like my first or even second choice, but he is a hell of a lot better than Obama.

71 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:36:11pm

Gore went insane. A complete egomaniac. Delusions and all.

72 Racer X  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:36:21pm

Time for some obscure tuneage - Triumvirat.

73 philosoteric  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:36:23pm

re: #57 wolfie

Think you could put up with being my math teacher? :D

74 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:36:45pm

re: #69 mikeymom

and jimmys last post was cognizant?

(i wouldn't go that far)

75 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:36:47pm

re: #66 AmeriDan Very true and excellent point!

76 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:37:03pm

re: #63 BlueCanuck

Yeah, but I wouldn't want a bums lifestyle. :p

/dealt with too many of them.

I pretend they're not there. Or are you talking about non-street bums?

77 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:37:09pm

Dan
Down here we say: "he who has found a friend has found a treasure"
;)

78 philosoteric  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:37:25pm

re: #62 slokat

Hm, that's an idea. I get a big impression that in order to properly do physics, you need the maths, however. Am I wrong?

79 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:37:37pm

re: #64 MigueldowninMexico

Hey Miguel.

80 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:37:41pm

re: #58 realwest

Money won't buy you good health. It may buy you the best medical care in the World, but sometimes even that won't save you.
I'll take good health over all the money I could dream of.

Money won't buy you good friendships either. It will buy you lots of people who say that they're your friend, but in reality they could care less about you.

You my friend are blessed with real friends.

81 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:38:06pm

re: #79 AmeriDan

Hey Miguel.

Hello Dan :)

82 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:38:11pm

Off for a bit. Thanx all for the interesting conversation.

83 mikeysdca  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:38:32pm

re: #58 realwest

And you get good health from where?

84 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:38:42pm

re: #80 DesertSage

Money won't buy you good friendships either. It will buy you lots of people who say that they're your friend, but in reality they could care less about you.

You my friend are blessed with real friends.

I attest to that!

85 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:38:46pm

re: #77 MigueldowninMexico

Dan
Down here we say: "he who has found a friend has found a treasure"
;)

Truer words, my friend, have never been spoken.

86 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:38:58pm

re: #46 pat

Take deep breath. Deal with issues one at time. Drivers license, family doctor (who will not be concerned about joint unless you have high blood pressure) about issues, wife's medications with her doctor, letter to wife of your concern. Menopause and near menopause is a bitch. Particularly to women who believe that they should not have to work anymore.

she doesnt work like me long term dissability i deal with mine by occasional joint and a 40 at night (if i want to sleep more than 4 or 5 hours). tried the mental health drugs i seem to get those nasty side affects you see on adds on tv etc... as far as menopause she read the warnings on a patch from her gyno and wont use it. i'm at my wits end because i still really love her and this might be coming to an end

87 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:39:06pm

re: #82 pat

Off for a bit. Thanx all for the interesting conversation.

Aloha waikiki! lol

88 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:39:12pm

re: #80 DesertSage
Thanks Sage, and I surely count you among them and am grateful for that fact.

89 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:39:35pm

re: #73 philosoteric

Think you could put up with being my math teacher? :D

Sure! Think you can teach me to thread the needle on my new sewing machine?! :)

90 philosoteric  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:39:40pm

See y'all in the morning.

As soon as I can, I'll put up a link to a picture of the awesome moonrise we get here. Living in the mountains is great!

91 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:39:46pm

re: #85 AmeriDan

Truer words, my friend, have never been spoken.

We've tested that in our lives, haven't we? ;)

92 LEGION  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:39:46pm

That is the key to life- moneyyyy!

93 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:40:03pm

re: #59 AmeriDan

Sounds more like he is describing a mental health issue with his wife, not menopause. IMHO.

bingo

94 mikeysdca  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:40:09pm

re: #71 pat

Was he ever any better?

95 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:40:18pm

Now if we can just get Miguel across the border to vote for McCain, he will win no problem.

96 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:41:04pm

re: #83 mikeysdca
Well since I have really shitty health I can't really answer that question. Nor can my oncologist. Maybe genes, maybe luck - if I knew, I wouldn't need an oncologist.

97 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:41:18pm

re: #88 realwest

Thanks Sage, and I surely count you among them and am grateful for that fact.

Sage is mean to me Real!
He's very mean. He always drinks all my mezcal!

/Heavy joking ;)

98 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:41:32pm

re: #76 AmeriDan

street bums. Have about twenty that hang out by my office complex that I work at. Good incentive for me to keep my job.

Good morning Miguel.

99 LEGION  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:41:47pm

Miguel- haven't seen you in the Lounge in a while- Que pasa?

100 gibsonz  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:41:57pm

re: #92 LEGION

That is the key to life- moneyyyy!

It might not be the key to life but it is most certainly the key to the chastity belt...bwahahaha!

101 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:42:19pm

re: #95 DesertSage

Now if we can just get Miguel across the border to vote for McCain, he will win no problem.

Shhhhh
Killian Bundy could be around.

/He rats on illegals ;)

102 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:42:33pm

re: #87 MigueldowninMexico Hola Amigo - well I reckon I found a real treasure in you my friend.

103 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:42:54pm

re: #97 MigueldowninMexico

Sage is mean to me Real!
He's very mean. He always drinks all my mezcal!

/Heavy joking ;)

I'm only mean to you because I like you so much.

Tough love my friend :')

104 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:43:26pm

re: #99 LEGION

Miguel- haven't seen you in the Lounge in a while- Que pasa?

I became adicted to the theads after being adicted to ther Lounge. I guess I changed adictions.

Besides, my comments at the lounge don't count for the total # LOL

Thanks for asking :)

105 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:44:24pm
106 LEGION  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:44:26pm

re: #104 MigueldowninMexico

Yowsa I see! 25K coming up! Holy Cow!

107 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:44:29pm

re: #102 realwest

Hola Amigo - well I reckon I found a real treasure in you my friend.

Same here real.
And you are a treaure for a lot of people, my friend.
:)

108 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:44:33pm

re: #93 JimmyTheClaw

bingo

Did you see my earlier post saying that I went through what you described?

109 mikeymom  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:44:53pm

re: #96 realwest

any news real? recently? i heart ya u know

110 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:45:02pm

re: #103 DesertSage

I'm only mean to you because I like you so much.

Tough love my friend :')

Hahahaha.
I know Sage ;)

Marine's friendship lol

111 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:45:32pm

re: #106 LEGION

Yowsa I see! 25K coming up! Holy Cow!

MOO!

112 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:45:48pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

I have a box of rocks that can outthink some of the posters on the last ID thread.

Are they the Shiva Stones from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

113 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:46:24pm

re: #102 realwest

Hola Amigo - well I reckon I found a real treasure in you my friend.

Group hug time?

:)

114 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:46:35pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

I have a box of rocks that can outthink some of the posters on the last ID thread.

Is that where all those Pet Rocks went to?

115 LEGION  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:46:43pm

re: #111 MigueldowninMexico

Mom said about me when I was born I was a treasure, Dad said yeah lets bury him.

116 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:47:45pm

also her biggest problem this time is marriage if we get married legally we lose enough cash (we both recieve social security) that we will have to live in public housing section 8 etc... so like i'm against all the bs with food stamps section 8 etc... also she might have been talking with some aa types who believe anyone who drinks is an alcoholic and if you smoke a joint you are the same as a crack head (i hate those people) i'm not sure i just know that my pristine clear permanent record is now flawed (or will be in a few weeks) which really sucks

117 slokat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:47:57pm

re: #78 philosoteric

Hm, that's an idea. I get a big impression that in order to properly do physics, you need the maths, however. Am I wrong?

The math has all been done by others.

One of the advantages to being human is to learn from the struggle of others, right?

Physics is a field that works, if you know the math or not. Plus the experiments are fun, if you are collecting data or not.

The math just let's you predict what will happen before you do it.

After you prove the theory by experiments, it might make the math make more sense...

In example: trebuchets work if you know the math or not, but the math makes you more accurate.

118 Racer X  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:48:09pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

I have a box of rocks that can outthink some of the posters on the last ID thread.

I think you insulted my pet rock.

119 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:48:51pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

I have a box of rocks that can outthink some of the posters on the last ID thread.

I sort of lean to the ID side, because of my strong belief in God.

But you monkey have been writing some excellent comments!

Tired of dingin' you up! lol (j/k)

120 realwest  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:49:15pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but TONIGHT I'm gonna get some sleep for a change! LOL!

Anyway, I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Goodnight, all.

121 angst  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:49:17pm

re: #78 philosoteric

Hm, that's an idea. I get a big impression that in order to properly do physics, you need the maths, however. Am I wrong?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Einstein wasn't all that great at math. You do not need to know math to understand the theories of relativity.

I loved physics, and should have gone into it. My math is good but not great, but if you can get your mind around the concepts, that's what counts. After all, it's not like physicists do the math with pencil and paper.

re: #48 BlueCanuck

Time is not money. Your time is more valuble then money. Money allows you to free more time.

This is exactly what I tell my kids. Money buys you freedom. You can also help other people with it. That's nice, too.

122 LEGION  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:49:28pm

re: #118 Racer X

I still have my Pet Rock- (Stinky)! Also, a piece of the "Berlin Wall" (rightttt).

123 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:50:04pm

re: #113 AmeriDan

Group hug time?

:)

Yeah! Why not?
I was even going to ask Blue if he takes me as a member of the bum pack outside his job place! lol

Guess that'd be quite a smelly group hug!

124 LEGION  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:50:18pm

Time to put Stinky to bed. Nite all!

125 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:50:25pm

re: #118 Racer X

I think you insulted my pet rock.

Hahahaha!

126 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:50:42pm

re: #98 BlueCanuck

street bums. Have about twenty that hang out by my office complex that I work at. Good incentive for me to keep my job.

Good morning Miguel.

I sincerely hope you never, ever give them any money. Obviously, your co-workers and clients do though.

127 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:51:26pm

re: #120 realwest

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but TONIGHT I'm gonna get some sleep for a change! LOL!

Change!

Drink!

Where's my Mezcal?

128 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:51:47pm

Good night realwest! :)


Good night LEGION! :)

129 xleatherneck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:52:30pm

#70 realwest
Sorry to disagree with you....

Feel free to disagree with me, but before you lock yourself into that conclusion, you might want to spend some time at Free Republic, because it doesn't support your position, and they are the best indicators of the very query that we are discussing.

130 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:52:46pm

re: #115 LEGION

Mom said about me when I was born I was a treasure, Dad said yeah lets bury him.

Hahahaha! Cruel joke!

131 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:52:50pm

re: #116 JimmyTheClaw

also her biggest problem this time is marriage if we get married legally we lose enough cash (we both recieve social security) that we will have to live in public housing section 8 etc... so like i'm against all the bs with food stamps section 8 etc... also she might have been talking with some aa types who believe anyone who drinks is an alcoholic and if you smoke a joint you are the same as a crack head (i hate those people) i'm not sure i just know that my pristine clear permanent record is now flawed (or will be in a few weeks) which really sucks

You're not legally married? I could offer you some advice if you wanted it.

132 angst  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:53:03pm

re: #119 MigueldowninMexico

I sort of lean to the ID side, because of my strong belief in God.

But you monkey have been writing some excellent comments!

Tired of dingin' you up! lol (j/k)

I have a lot of patience with the ID people. I know a lot of ID folks who are otherwise very smart and great people (like my neighbor). I suppose it's also because I believe science is so beautiful, God had to have a hand in it somewhere.

The world is so full of a number of things; I'm sure we should all be as happy as kings.

Lewis Carroll

133 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:53:49pm

re: #123 MigueldowninMexico

Yeah! Why not?
I was even going to ask Blue if he takes me as a member of the bum pack outside his job place! lol

Guess that'd be quite a smelly group hug!

And sticky to I bet.

/ewww

134 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:53:58pm

re: #127 DesertSage

Change!

Drink!

Where's my Mezcal?

HI!
Noam drrrunk it, hic!
I shaw im!

135 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:55:31pm

re: #133 AmeriDan

And sticky to I bet.

/ewww

ewwwwwwwwwww is right! lol

136 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:56:16pm

re: #132 angst

The Queen was muslim, wasn't she?

137 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:57:35pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

Just finished a book by Pierre Manent called Democracy Without Nations? wherein he makes the connection between the development of the nation state and the rise of liberal democracy. Talks a lot about the contrast between the "political community" vs. universal humanitarianism.
Similar in many ways to the distinction you have drawn between civil rights and human rights.
You'd like it.
Short, too!

138 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:58:19pm

Y'all should step outside and llok at the moon. It's fan-fucking-tastic.

139 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:58:32pm

re: #134 MigueldowninMexico

HI!
Noam drrrunk it, hic!
I shaw im!

Yep, I knew it.

I'll deal with Noam later.

140 angst  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:58:44pm

re: #136 MigueldowninMexico

The Queen was muslim, wasn't she?

I don't know. All I know about Alice in Wonderland was that it was about drugs. I have no idea where that quote came from, I just like it.

141 angst  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 10:59:29pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Y'all should step outside and llok at the moon. It's fan-fucking-tastic.

Great. It's fan-fucking-raining outside!

142 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:00:18pm

re: #141 angst

Bummer, you're really missing out.

143 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:00:21pm

re: #131 AmeriDan

You're not legally married? I could offer you some advice if you wanted it.

i'll be up for a bit

144 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:00:22pm

re: #126 AmeriDan
I never give them a thing. That's what the city social services does. Personally I think they just enable them to continue their lifestyle

re: #123 MigueldowninMexico

You are not a bum. I don't know what you do, but you can afford internet and a computer. :)

145 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:00:30pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

We wolves have been howling at it most of the night!

146 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:01:23pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Y'all should step outside and llok at the moon. It's fan-fucking-tastic.

that must be it us loonys are affected by a full moon

147 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:02:35pm
148 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:02:53pm

re: #119 MigueldowninMexico

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

I have a box of rocks that can outthink some of the posters on the last ID thread.

I sort of lean to the ID side, because of my strong belief in God.

But you monkey have been writing some excellent comments!

Tired of dingin' you up! lol (j/k)

Well, I made it almost an hour here without The Debate That Never Ends. I think that's a new record.

As for what I believe, this sums things up quite nicely, and I post it and then refuse to talk about it anymore.

149 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:03:14pm

re: #141 angst

Great. It's fan-fucking-raining outside!

Rain? What's that?

150 uptight  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:04:38pm

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151 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:04:58pm

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

I'll see if I can find it! :)

152 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:05:46pm

re: #149 DesertSage

Rain? What's that?

/it's a Beatles song

153 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:06:01pm

re: #150 uptight

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go up a page or so it was broken after the first tick tock

154 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:07:48pm

re: #143 JimmyTheClaw

i'll be up for a bit

It won't take long, and keep in mind that this is coming from someone who has been through it.

Note: If anyone has any kids in the room, please ask them to leave.

GET. THE. FUCK. OUT. NOW! ! !

155 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:07:49pm

re: #148 AmeriDan

Heh heh heh heh. I used to post on those threads just one thing then run.

God is a mathmatican. Thats all I have to say about the whole thing.

156 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:09:00pm

re: #154 AmeriDan

Been there, done that, got the scars.

/she was a real learning experience for me
//call her bitch face to all my friends. :)

157 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:11:23pm

re: #156 BlueCanuck

Been there, done that, got the scars.

/she was a real learning experience for me
//call her bitch face to all my friends. :)

my problem is she is getting sick again and this time i am almost powerless to rescue her before she hits bottom

158 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:13:49pm

re: #157 JimmyTheClaw

my problem is she is getting sick again and this time i am almost powerless to rescue her before she hits bottom

So you're going with her?

159 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:14:43pm

lurvly damn weather.....

hot as hell, dry breeze, and no change for a few days, on top of a drought. all we need now is a couple of big fires......

/damn glad my yard is native plants.

160 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:17:03pm

re: #159 redc1c4

NATIVE PLANTS ?
You hate immigrants or something?!
BIGOT !

161 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:17:42pm

re: #158 AmeriDan

So you're going with her?

dunno if she leaves i cant stop her last 2 times she moved out she was back in 3 weeks because the people who prompted it were idiots and she realised i wasnt treating her bad and her friends were full of shit

162 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:19:21pm

Paging zombie:

Alameda County Superior Court Judge Barbara Miller ruled late Wednesday to continue a temporary injunction that is preventing the university's administration from cutting down 44 oak trees near Memorial Stadium to make room for a $125 million athletic facility, KCBS-TV reported.

Linky

163 Dustyvet  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:20:00pm

re: #60 JimmyTheClaw

drivers license was my bad but a pipe and a pinch of weed deep inside my desk drawer are different (she said well if i'm goin down so is he) and worst of all i cant just up and go and move 15 years has a lot of baggage and a lot of our stuff is tied together on the third i will squirell 50 bucks aside to renew my drivers license but untill then i have to barricade a door to sleep which really sucks

Get yourself one of these, I live in and apartment and the beat a chain on the door . With this item you get piece of mind along with a good nights sleep.


[Link: www.alltvstuff.com...]

164 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:20:33pm

re: #159 redc1c4

Send some up our way, please. Temps here are half what they were this time last week. And it won't stop raining. Well the rain comes and goes but still.

165 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:22:16pm

re: #163 Dustyvet

Get yourself one of these, I live in and apartment and the beat a chain on the door . With this item you get piece of mind along with a good nights sleep.


[Link: www.alltvstuff.com...]

barricade will be on living room door so i can sleep because sometimes she really scares me

166 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:22:42pm

re: #160 wolfie

NATIVE PLANTS ?
You hate immigrants or something?!
BIGOT !

nope: just your garden variety asshole..... %-)

167 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:23:02pm

re: #156 BlueCanuck

Been there, done that, got the scars.

/she was a real learning experience for me
//call her bitch face to all my friends. :)

My experience, and from what I read of Jimmy's, is way past the bitch part. We're talking psychotic monster.

Multiple police cars and ambulances in the yard at least once a week towards the end of my marriage. A group of cops pulling me aside and saying "she says you're beating her, but she doesn't have any bruises. You need to leave her and town, because we will have to take you in next time regardless."

Needless to say... I now live in a different state.

168 Racer X  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:23:48pm

re: #165 JimmyTheClaw

Life is too short. Dump her. Don't look back.

169 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:24:23pm

re: #164 BlueCanuck

Send some up our way, please. Temps here are half what they were this time last week. And it won't stop raining. Well the rain comes and goes but still.

we'd have to trade for the rain.....

the neighbors are still hosing down the driveways like they're trying to grow concrete....

/idiots

170 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:26:05pm

re: #166 redc1c4

Hiya Red. You missed the group hug earlier.

/your loss

171 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:26:51pm

YOU CAN NEVER LOOK BACK

172 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:28:20pm

re: #168 Racer X

Life is too short. Dump her. Don't look back.

Nail, meet hammer.

173 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:29:03pm

re: #165 JimmyTheClaw


Jimmy, you don't know me from Eve, but it sounds like you should really focus on getting yourself back together before you even think about being able to 'rescue' this person. Get out of there.

174 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:29:04pm

re: #167 AmeriDan

My experience, and from what I read of Jimmy's, is way past the bitch part. We're talking psychotic monster.

Multiple police cars and ambulances in the yard at least once a week towards the end of my marriage. A group of cops pulling me aside and saying "she says you're beating her, but she doesn't have any bruises. You need to leave her and town, because we will have to take you in next time regardless."

Needless to say... I now live in a different state.

well she has never outright lied about me as for just leaving its not that easy unless i want to lose all my earthly posessions (i can always call my family that live on the other side of the state) i also dont want to just up and move from a town ive lived in for 15 years

175 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:32:08pm

Obama doesn't work well with others.

176 pat  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:34:58pm

re: #175 DesertSage

Obama doesn't work well with others.

Because he is too stupid to have anyone other than losers around him. He is surrounded by failures.

177 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:36:08pm

re: #174 JimmyTheClaw

well she has never outright lied about me as for just leaving its not that easy unless i want to lose all my earthly posessions (i can always call my family that live on the other side of the state) i also dont want to just up and move from a town ive lived in for 15 years

I had to go hat in hand to family, friends, and co-workers for a year to get back to where I'm am today. I used up most of the goodwill I had garnered over the years. Since replenished.

It's not easy at all, it's damn hard. But look at the alternative?

Save yourself first.

178 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:37:17pm

re: #170 AmeriDan

Hiya Red. You missed the group hug earlier.

/your loss

yeah, but i'm not sticky either.... %-)

/cooties

179 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:37:34pm

re: #175 DesertSage

Obama doesn't work well with others.

He is not the Obama I (never) knew.

180 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:37:38pm

well off to bed g'night all

181 Racer X  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:37:58pm

re: #175 DesertSage

Obama doesn't work well with others.

Well, he got all those other politicians to vote for the legislation he introduced.

No, wait...

182 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:38:12pm

re: #177 AmeriDan

I had to go hat in hand to family, friends, and co-workers for a year to get back to where I'm am today. I used up most of the goodwill I had garnered over the years. Since replenished.

It's not easy at all, it's damn hard. But look at the alternative?

Save yourself first.

thanks

183 Racer X  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:38:35pm

Good luck Jimmy

184 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:38:37pm

re: #168 Racer X

Life is too short. Dump her. Don't look back.

that's a harsh toke, but it may be the one to take......

185 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:39:46pm

re: #174 JimmyTheClaw

It's just stuff, you will accumulate more, more than you probably really want! You need to sleep someplace where you don't have to barricade the door. That is sure sign the relationship is unhealthy! :)

186 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:39:48pm

re: #178 redc1c4

yeah, but i'm not sticky either.... %-)

/cooties

Feh, I've been vacinated and used a body condom.

187 esch  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:39:56pm

re: #177 AmeriDan

Save yourself first.

He speaks sooth.

We'll all be gone far too soon. The money is meaningless, you'll make more and leave it all behind when you go anyways. What you can't get back is the time spent waffling.

188 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:40:08pm

Got my $300 from our generous government (AKA from all of us that PAY taxes), cashed the check, and went to the local watering hole. I'm not sure that I stimulated the economy, but I KNOW I stimulated myself!

189 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:40:18pm

re: #181 Racer X

Well, he got all those other politicians to vote for the legislation he introduced.

No, wait...

He votes PRESENT a lot.
That's very nuanced.
Well, certainly more sophisticated than HERE.

190 esch  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:41:23pm

I'm just going to call him 'poohbama' from now on to my associates.

191 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:41:47pm

re: #182 JimmyTheClaw

thanks

Your welcome. I hope you have a peacefull sleep tonight.

You deserve it.

192 mike volpe  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:44:07pm

I wanted to direct everyone to a concept that I have been following on my blog. It is a vicous tool of retaliation called sham peer review.

It targets doctors for all sorts of reasons and it winds up casting them in a net of corruption.

I have been able to follow the stories of several doctors from all parts of the country and there are thousands more. For instance, here is the story of a doctor that was targeted after he tried to report on a serial killer nurse in South Carolina. Here is the story of a doctor in Texas that was targeted by her corrupt insurance carrier. Also in Texas, the corrupt medical board systematically targets doctors for retaliation. A nurse in a Texas hospital was targeted after he reported on illegal drug testing in the hospital. Finally, in Rhode Island, a doctor was targeted after she reported on a case of child abuse.

I am also working on a story about a doctor in Pennsylvania that was targeted after he reported on child abuse however that story is not quite done.

193 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:45:17pm

re: #187 esch

He speaks sooth.

We'll all be gone far too soon. The money is meaningless, you'll make more and leave it all behind when you go anyways. What you can't get back is the time spent waffling.

Oh, just let the man alone so he can eat his waffle.

/

:)

194 USASupport  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:45:33pm

If quoting an AP story costs money now, I'd love to hear what their argument is on taking a screenshot, and hosting the image where you would have text.

195 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:47:36pm

re: #167 AmeriDan

Well mine tried pushing me down stairs twice, physically assaulted me several times. Not to metion all the mental and emotional abuse she threw at me. There's heaps more to the whole story, but I ran as well. It cost me a lot of my stuff, but it was worth the agony to leave. Took me several years to get my head screwed back on straight, but I am now further ahead today then I was then.

Some times you have to go through hell to understand what heaven really is.

/every person needs at least one crazy ex in their life to appreciate all the good ones.

196 Racer X  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:48:11pm

re: #184 redc1c4

that's a harsh toke, but it may be the one to take......

I've been there - on both sides actually. No sense prolonging the inevitable.

197 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:48:51pm

re: #188 Bob in Breckenridge

Got my $300 from our generous government (AKA from all of us that PAY taxes), cashed the check, and went to the local watering hole. I'm not sure that I stimulated the economy, but I KNOW I stimulated myself!

For 300 bucks you could have paid someone to do it for you. Unless you are the Governor on New Jersey, of course.

198 joecitizen  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:49:10pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Y'all should step outside and llok at the moon. It's fan-fucking-tastic.

gorgeous here in Pittsburgh..g'night ye Lizards..may all yer dreams be scaley...

199 DesertSage  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:50:00pm

How many times has Obama voted "present"?

The man just can not make a decision. How the hell does he think he's ready to be president? Make up your damn mind Obama!

Either lead, follow, or get out of the way! My preference is that you get out of the way!

I'm Dazed & Confused

200 wolfie  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:50:06pm

re: #192 mike volpe

Interesting. Will check this out when I'm more awake!

201 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:50:41pm

re: #197 AmeriDan

For 300 bucks you could have paid someone to do it for you. Unless you are the Governor on New Jersey, of course.

I speaking of drinking only. I'm not about to pay like that idiot client #9, Spitzer.

/Of course, we all pay one way or another, right?

202 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:54:59pm

re: #195 BlueCanuck

Well mine tried pushing me down stairs twice, physically assaulted me several times. Not to metion all the mental and emotional abuse she threw at me. There's heaps more to the whole story, but I ran as well. It cost me a lot of my stuff, but it was worth the agony to leave. Took me several years to get my head screwed back on straight, but I am now further ahead today then I was then.

Some times you have to go through hell to understand what heaven really is.

/every person needs at least one crazy ex in their life to appreciate all the good ones.

Bitch does not even begin to describe her then. Find her a new nickname. I suggest Nappy Headed Ho, oh wait, thats taken. Satan's spawn has a nice ring to it.

Congratulations on making it back. It's a long tough road, indeed.

203 AmeriDan  Wed, Jun 18, 2008 11:56:39pm

re: #201 Bob in Breckenridge

/Of course, we all pay one way or another, right?

Ain't that the truth!

204 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:04:23am

My buddy Denny has a great rant at his blog [Link: www.grouchyoldcripple.com...]

All Oil All The Time

So I'm hammered. Y'know, back when I started blogging and was still working for IBM, a lot of my posts were written when I was under the influence of adult beverages. My rants were a lot better then. So, here I am on dialup discussing oil. Jesus H. Christ, there are some really fucking stupid people in this country. And these dipshits vote.

Exhibit 1 is from The Vent.

Bush and the Republicans controlled Congress for six years, and they couldn't pass legislation to drill in Alaska, Gulf Coast or build more refineries. Pelosi and Reid have had a majority in Congress for only 1 1/2 years, and you blame them for these high gas prices. Typical right-wing conservative Republican.
You asinine idiot! Go back to watching American Idol and Do You Know How to Dance. You obviously haven't been paying any attention. For those six years Bush and the Republicans were trying to drill in ANWR. Y'see they have this thing in the Senate (for a booger eatin' moh-ron like you, that's one of the houses of gummint. The other being the House of Representatives.) called a filibuster. The Dimocrats filibustered drilling in ANWR. It requires 60 votes to stop a filibuster. Unfortunately, the Republicans could not muster 60 votes.

The Dimocrats have been against all new drilling. Since they took over Congress gas prices have gone up from $2.13 per gallon to $4 a gallon. Here's a clue for you: Colonel Mustard, in the library with the lead pipe. Now go back to watching Survivor.

What else was in the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation? Yeah. Another cease fire between Israel and Hamas. Yeah. Hamas will honor that for maybe a day at the most.

More flooding in the Midwest. Lots of looting. People shooting at helicopters. Oh wait! That was Nawlins. In the Midwest, people are following evacuation orders. They're helping out sandbagging the levees. They're not waiting for the gummint. Prolly none of them will be lving in FEMA trailers. Didja know that there are still refugees from Nawlins living in hotels? Yep! Some of them might even one day go out and look for a job. That is when they get around to it. I meant to blog on that earlier this week but I didn't get around to it. I was waiting for the gummint to help me out.

But this post is about oil. McRINO and Chimpy McHaliburton Bushitler have finally come to their senses and are calling for offshore drilling.

President Bush plans to make a renewed push today to get Congress to end a long-standing ban on offshore oil and gas drilling, echoing a call by GOP presidential candidate John McCain.
I am so fucked! This is an AP story and I expect their lawyers to come after me and charge me $1 million a word for citing their article.

With oil prices soaring and motorists paying $4 a gallon for gasoline, political pressures have been growing for more domestic oil and gas production.
Just remember, Nancy Pelosi said that if we turned Congress over to the Dimocrats they would fix the high gas prices. Turns out their definition of "fixing gas prices" meant doubling them. Great job Nancy.

Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic candidate for president, opposes lifting the ban on offshore drilling and says that allowing exploration now wouldn't affect gasoline prices for at least five years.
WTF? Does this idiot realize how stupid this sounds? Let's do nothing. In five years when gas is $6 a gallon he can say that if we allow exploration it won't affect gas prices for five years when they will be $8 a gallon. This is gonna be our next president. Think about this as you are spending $50 to fill up your tank. This dipstick will make Jimmah Carter look like a good president.

Part 2 to follow...

205 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:04:41am

Man I could go on forever. Robert Samuelson has an op-ed about what is ahead.

We all know that gasoline is at $4 a gallon and oil is around $135 a barrel. But if you think that's the end of the story, don't talk to economist Jeffrey Rubin of CIBC World Markets. By Rubin's reckoning, we've barely passed the halfway point on a steady march upward that will take gasoline to $7 a gallon and oil to $225 by 2012. Despite fluctuations, the underlying rise, he says, will have pervasive and surprising side effects. Among them:
Thank Chuck "the schmuck" Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dick "Turban" Durban", Harry Reid, Jug Hussein Ears, Thunder Rodent Thighs, and the rest of the Dimocrat Party and the RINOs.

U.S. manufacturers benefit, because rising ocean-freight costs —- reflecting fuel prices —- make imports more expensive. Some production returns to the United States, and some shifts from Asia to closer exporters (Mexico over China). Since 2000, estimates Rubin, the cost of shipping a 40-foot container from East Asia has gone from $3,000 to $8,000. With oil at $200 a barrel, the shipping cost would be $15,000.
That's the good news.

Inflation becomes more stubborn. For years, the Federal Reserve has focused on so-called core inflation —- prices minus energy and food. The justification is that large food and energy-price changes usually reverse themselves. But if they move steadily higher, that logic collapses. "While core inflation may be barely over 2 percent, that's only of solace if you don't eat or drive," Rubin says. Overall inflation is twice that, about 4 percent
Which means Paulson will have to raise interest rates as we're going into a recession. Hello stagflation. Hello Jimmah Carter's second term, but hey, we will have elected our first black president (as long as we don't count BJ) so we will have proved that we have overvcome racism.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God! Free at last! If it only didn't cost so much fucking money to be free at last.

Two distressed industries —- home building and autos —- suffer further. "In two years, there will be fewer Americans driving," he says. Higher gasoline prices push people to mass transit and car pools. Home prices take another hit, especially in distant suburbs with long commutes. "People won't be able to afford what they used to afford," he says.
The libs will finally do sumpin' about sprawl. Fuck the American dream. Think about that as you vote for Dimocrats.

Finally, the holy crap moment. The AJC actually had an editorial about not blaming big oil. No. This can't be true. I must be hallucinating. All I had was a couple of Stoly's on the rocks and a half bottle of wine. How did this editorial get past Cynthia Tucker?

Guess I better go have a glass of grappa. Or two.

Admit it! Don't I write better when I'm drinking?

And I get to deal with AT&T tech support tomorrow when I'm hungover.

Whoopie!

206 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:10:24am

A related song for tonight on the DT...

If you're going through hell,

keep on going.

Don't slow down,

If you're scared don't show it.

You might get out,

'fore the Devil even knows your there.

207 pat  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:11:54am

I adore Julie Banderas. Pretty and Funny.

208 Ojoe  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:14:24am

"If you are going through hell, keep going."

That's a Winston Churchill quote.

& here are the San Gabriel Mountains in the bright moonlight, at the moment.

209 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:18:51am

re: #208 Ojoe

Nice view.

210 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:19:27am

re: #208 Ojoe

"If you are going through hell, keep going."

That's a Winston Churchill quote.

& here are the San Gabriel Mountains in the bright moonlight, at the moment.

it was hot enough today to make me think we were at least on the outskirts.

nice canyon breeze now.....

/midnight pool dip? %-)

211 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:20:15am

here's a Paul Thorn song more than a few people here will be able to relate to........

it's a great day

212 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:21:43am

re: #205 Bob in Breckenridge

Admit it! Don't I write better when I'm drinking?

I thought you said Denny wrote it.

213 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:24:39am

re: #188 Bob in Breckenridge


Huh....some of the stores around here are offering a 10% bonus if you use your stimulus check to buy a gift card (which I think can be turned around to purchase gift cards for various resturants, gas stations, airlines, pre-paid credit cards etc)...so $300 would get you $330 worth of gift cards, $600 would get you $660 worth of gift cards and so on....

I'm wondering if it's worthwhile.

214 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:25:03am

re: #211 redc1c4

Beautiful piece of music. Going to use it for those *special* occassions.

215 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:27:03am

re: #211 redc1c4

here's a Paul Thorn song more than a few people here will be able to relate to........

it's a great day

Or try this one to start the day.

It's A Great Day To Be Alive.

216 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:44:58am

So I have the place to myself now? Maybe a lurker or two left but nobody commenting.

No problem, I'll just share the music that I'm listening to.

Country music.

There is a song for every person, problem, situation, etc. in country music.

They are all Songs About Me. And you.

217 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:47:02am

re: #215 AmeriDan

Or try this one to start the day.

It's A Great Day To Be Alive.

nice song, but a bit too up for me...... especially first thing in the morning

gimme the sleep that burns

218 Caton  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:47:15am

re: #216 AmeriDan

Maybe a lurker or two left but nobody commenting.

I'm monitoring the hudna in Gaza.

Almost five hours without a rocket landing in Israel... Incredible.

219 freetoken  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:47:22am

re: #216 AmeriDan

Well, I've spent too much time today reading LGF... since my last post I've done several chores and even went to the grocery story...

The Bacterial Evolution thread is still getting some attention - perhaps if you hung out there you might find more love.

220 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:48:21am

re: #216 AmeriDan

So I have the place to myself now? Maybe a lurker or two left but nobody commenting.

No problem, I'll just share the music that I'm listening to.

Country music.

There is a song for every person, problem, situation, etc. in country music.

They are all Songs About Me. And you.

yeah, but i wanna talk about me!

221 Racer X  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:50:39am
222 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:54:15am

re: #219 freetoken

Well, I've spent too much time today reading LGF... since my last post I've done several chores and even went to the grocery story...

The Bacterial Evolution thread is still getting some attention - perhaps if you hung out there you might find more love.

No thanks. I'll stick to the dead thread.

It's A Real Fine Place To Start.

/babe alert

223 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:06:13am

If anyone is drinking tonight... don't forget...

Beer for my your horses.

224 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:12:33am

I've never experienced life in a northern town- not counting Navy A school- I wonder what it's like?

225 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:12:39am

re: #223 AmeriDan

If anyone is drinking tonight... don't forget...

Beer for my your horses.

you mean there are people who *don't* drink?

that explains the world's problems

/horrified

226 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:16:30am

re: #224 AmeriDan

Damn cold in the winter. Great if you love winter sports, otherwise you're SOL.

/REALLY experienced.

227 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:26:54am

re: #226 BlueCanuck

Damn cold in the winter. Great if you love winter sports, otherwise you're SOL.

/REALLY experienced.

Yeah, I left Great Lakes in the fall, and was about to freeze to death.

I'll stay in the Boondocks.

228 Render  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:28:53am

Mornin all...

I'm bringing this forward from the bloodbath of an ID thread. Mostly because it didn't belong there, partially because I think it deserves a morning shift perusal, and lastly because I get to fix a really annoying typo...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

BATTLE
STATIONS,
R

229 Render  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:29:11am

You’re disgusted with the GOP for giving us such a “crappy” candidate?

You think that your little political issues are more important than winning this war?

So you’re going to send the GOP a “message” by not voting in this election?

Your null vote is a vote for Obama and the DNC.

The same Obama that said this...

"I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning; and as president, I will end it.

"Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems.

"I will institute an independent defense priorities board to ensure that the Quadrennial Review is not used to justify unnecessary defense spending.

"Third, I will set a goal for a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenal."

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Obama did not say “win” this war he clearly said “end it.”

In war the only opposite of the word “win” is “lose” because a draw is only a postponement.

An Obama who has said this repeatedly...

“Bringing Our Troops Home

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda.”

[Link: www.barackobama.com...]

As if a crushed and rapidly disolving al Qaeda in Iraq was Iraq’s only problem in the post Saddam world. What message does this send to those nations, (Turkey, Qatar, and Dijibouti), in that region that already have large US bases? What happens 15 months later to the last one or two US brigades in Iraq as the resurgent Iranian trained, supplied, and led Shia militias close down Iraq’s only ports of access to the sea? What happens to the US allied Iraqi military when they are cut off from their American sources of supply?

What message has Obama sent to the enemy by revealing his timetable like this? Not just to the enemy who now knows that if Obama is elected they only have to wait 16 months to retake all that they have lost over the last eight years. Not just to those nations in the region still sitting on the fence, what has Obama’s 16 months until enemy victory message sent to our tenuous allies in the region?

And you think you’re sending a message to the GOP by not pulling the right lever?

[Link: www.ford.utexas.edu...]

I can’t hear your message, it’s drowned out by other messages.

THAT’S
THE
WAY,
R

230 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:30:39am

re: #229 Render

Great comment, Render!

231 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:34:32am

re: #225 redc1c4

you mean there are people who *don't* drink?

that explains the world's problems

/horrified

Apparently so... I'm drunk... how 'bout you?

232 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:35:02am

RENDER,

Did you alter your life recently in a life altering way?

/if so, MAZEL TOV! :-)

233 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:35:18am

re: #221 Racer X

Rodney Carrington - Today's The Day My Wife Met My Girlfriend
What I'm listening to.

This guy's a riot!

234 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:35:22am

Je ne suis pas drunk.

235 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:37:03am

re: #232 littleoldlady

RENDER,

Did you alter your life recently in a life altering way?

/if so, MAZEL TOV! :-)

Yes! He's not using the

R

To sign anymore!

/ducks annd runs...

Ooh, that guy shoots fast!

236 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:37:45am

re: #231 AmeriDan

Apparently so... I'm drunk... how 'bout you?

Unfortunately I am sober as a judge. Problem with working the night shift. On the upside I don't have to worry about the Iron Fist rule.

237 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:39:21am

re: #236 BlueCanuck

Unfortunately I am sober as a judge. Problem with working the night shift. On the upside I don't have to worry about the Iron Fist rule.

Mr Iron Fist has saved me from a couple of embarrasments lol

I'm grateful to his rule ;)

238 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:41:09am

re: #235 MigueldowninMexico

I need my eyes checked... ;-)

Miguelito! :-)

DAN! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

239 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:41:50am

Hello littleoldlady! :)

240 Render  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:42:59am

re: #230 MigueldowninMexico

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all...until Charles pulls the plug.

re: #232 littleoldlady

um...No M'am. We're working on it though, if that's what you had in mind.

HOLD YOUR
HEAD UP,
R

241 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:44:32am

re: #240 Render

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all...until Charles pulls the plug.

re: #232 littleoldlady

um...No M'am. We're working on it though, if that's what you had in mind.

HOLD YOUR
HEAD UP,
R

And then, let the lizard friends in the know ! lol

/Too curious...

242 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:45:22am

Render.
I don't think that Charles would ever pull the plug on you, btw ;)

243 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:46:16am

re: #240 Render

I thought I saw somebody post those three magic words...

/Gossip Mongers 'R Us
//stealing Miguel's job... ;-)

244 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:46:30am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Morning littleoldlady.

245 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:47:11am

re: #232 littleoldlady

Good morning littleold lady. I had this thread to myself for a little while and was linking my favorite videos/songs that I like.

I'll do at least one more... because I'll do anything just to see you smile.

246 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:47:36am

I'm trying to remember the last time I voted FOR someone for President as opposed to AGAINST.

/I think it was Gerald Ford...

247 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:47:36am

re: #243 littleoldlady

I thought I saw somebody post those three magic words...

/Gossip Mongers 'R Us
//stealing Miguel's job... ;-)

:O (open mouth)

My job?

Ok, I'm good at what I do, I'll concede that!

Are you getting married Render?

/They call me the King of subtetly.

ROFL!

248 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:48:25am

re: #246 littleoldlady

I'm trying to remember the last time I voted FOR someone for President as opposed to AGAINST.

/I think it was Gerald Ford...

Reagan '84.

249 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:48:51am

re: #236 BlueCanuck

Unfortunately I am sober as a judge. Problem with working the night shift. On the upside I don't have to worry about the Iron Fist rule.

neither do i......

what, me worry?

250 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:49:37am

re: #238 littleoldlady

I need my eyes checked... ;-)

Miguelito! :-)

DAN! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Cougar! %-)

/white smoke

251 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:50:23am

Good Morning!

252 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:50:40am

re: #251 MajorPribluda

Good Morning!

Good morning, Major!

253 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:51:36am

re: #249 redc1c4

How old is he now? around 70?

/Alfred E is one bald-headed, toothless GIT now, and voting for Obama!

"Yeah, YOU! WORRY about Obama!"

254 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:51:45am

re: #249 redc1c4

Hey, where did you get a picture of my brother?

/jk, but that was his nick in high school
//uncanny resemblance.

255 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:52:54am

re: #254 BlueCanuck

Please accept my sincere condolences!

:D

256 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:54:16am

re: #255 Karridine

Please accept my sincere condolences!

:D

LOL

257 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:55:05am

we're trying something new in tonight's fruit cup.....

hope you like it!

/experiments R us %-)

258 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:55:05am

I better don't laugh. I'm 60 and look 65 going into 90

///

259 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:55:53am

re: #245 AmeriDan

Nice one! :-)

re: #248 MigueldowninMexico

I'm having trouble remembering that election. :-/ Not being a big fan of Reagan at the time, I guess it was for whoever ran against him.

red! :-)

BlueCanuck is here to guard the goodies.
/nah nah! ;-)

Hiya Major! :-)

260 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:56:05am

Red, not that Ukainian vodka again!

261 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:56:16am

re: #229 Render

The reply? I guess it will be 'That'll show them!'

262 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:56:24am

Karridine! :-)

263 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:57:10am

Fenway! :-)

/will you all kindly sit still?! I'm getting dizzy...

264 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:57:32am

re: #255 Karridine

Actually it was a badge of pride for him. :)

/grew up on all the old ones.

//face wasn't that bad looking.

265 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:57:52am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Nice one! :-)

re: #248 MigueldowninMexico

(snipage occurs)

BlueCanuck is here to guard the goodies.
/nah nah! ;-)

and we've all seen how well *that's* w*rked out in the past...... %-)

/evil chuckle

266 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:58:02am

...

267 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:58:21am

re: #257 redc1c4

we're trying something new in tonight's fruit cup.....

hope you like it!

/experiments R us %-)

Uh, you do know I'm subject to drug testing at work, right?

/

268 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:59:00am

re: #260 MigueldowninMexico

Red, not that Ukainian vodka again!


Polish it is then......

/and a lil somethin else %-)

269 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:59:05am

re: #262 littleoldlady

Little Olde!
Miguelito Down and Out and Around in Mexico!
Rec C4 !
AmeriDan
Render!

Lurkers! (Lurkers unite, you have nothing to lose but yr anonymity!)
Commenters!
Readers!

(pant-pant!)

HUMANKIND! ... Howdy! :D

270 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:59:22am

re: #266 MigueldowninMexico

...

Don't know where those dotes came from.

/I blame red and his tricks...

271 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:59:28am

Who could say no to some fruitcup?

272 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:59:36am

re: #267 AmeriDan

Uh, you do know I'm subject to drug testing at work, right?

/

so you get to practice here.....

/your scores will improve. %-)

273 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

274 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:00:22am

re: #264 BlueCanuck

Yeah, that was a sought-after mag when I got out of the house... not allowed in Dad's fambly... but my caricaturing owes a lot to Mort Drucker...

275 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:01:02am

re: #265 redc1c4

*big bronx cheer*

/I will get you one of these days.

276 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:01:08am

re: #273 littleoldlady

Wow! Perfect timing, Little Olde! :)

277 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:01:10am

HUMANKIND?

/wrong thread? ;-)

278 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:01:11am

re: #269 Karridine

Little Olde!
Miguelito Down and Out and Around in Mexico!
Rec C4 !
AmeriDan
Render!

Lurkers! (Lurkers unite, you have nothing to lose but yr anonymity!)
Commenters!
Readers!

(pant-pant!)

HUMANKIND! ... Howdy! :D

Hahahaha Karridine.

I was a bit down and out a few hours ago but I entered LGF and felt soooooo good. It's like home-on-the-net.

I could appreciate the wonderful lizards ;)

Not down and out anymore thanks to LGF ;)

279 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:01:49am

{[{MIGUELITO!}]}

280 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:01:57am

re: #269 Karridine

Little Olde!
Miguelito Down and Out and Around in Mexico!
Rec C4 !
AmeriDan
Render!

Lurkers! (Lurkers unite, you have nothing to lose but yr anonymity!)
Commenters!
Readers!

(pant-pant!)

HUMANKIND! ... Howdy! :D

Fine, but what would Carridine have to say about this?

281 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:03:07am

re: #279 littleoldlady

{[{MIGUELITO!}]}

{Littleoldlady!}

:)

282 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:03:56am

re: #280 AmeriDan

Awww, he's probably playing pinochle with Dr Jekyll in the basement!

283 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:03:59am

re: #271 Fenway_Nation

Who could say no to some fruitcup?

ever notice LoL never has any?

/just sayin....... %-)

284 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:04:51am

re: #280 AmeriDan

Sorry. See Comment #7, above, Dan

285 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:04:59am

re: #283 redc1c4

ever notice LoL never has any?

/just sayin....... %-)

I've noticed you sneaking behind the buffet table every morning though!


No wonder I feel dizzy...

286 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:05:00am

re: #273 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you.

*commences scarfing down fruitcup*

287 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:05:52am

re: #283 redc1c4

ever notice LoL never has any?

/just sayin....... %-)

BUSTED!

/I confess!

288 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:06:07am

re: #275 BlueCanuck

*big bronx cheer*

/I will get you one of these days.

yeah, sure......

/gingerbread man

289 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:06:26am

re: #278 MigueldowninMexico

Hahahaha Karridine.

I was a bit down and out a few hours ago but I entered LGF and felt soooooo good. It's like home-on-the-net.

I could appreciate the wonderful lizards ;)

Not down and out anymore thanks to LGF ;)

Looks like someone needs another group hug.

:)

290 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:07:00am

re: #287 littleoldlady

BUSTED!

/I confess!

Hey! That was a mouth-melting pic!

Mmmmmmm....

291 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:07:41am

re: #289 AmeriDan

Looks like someone needs another group hug.

:)

Me again I guess lol

I got the first one, altough I passed on Blue's bums ;)

292 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:08:01am

re: #252 MigueldowninMexico

Good morning, Major!

Hola--sorry for the delay. Busy while Lizarding.

293 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:08:26am

re: #292 MajorPribluda

Hola--sorry for the delay. Busy while Lizarding.

Lizarding! LOL
That's a good verb

294 Panhandler  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:08:32am

re: #287 littleoldlady
That's it LoL, now we'll get such a howl out of vxbush we'll never hear the end of it.

295 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:09:16am

re: #286 AmeriDan

Thank you.

*commences scarfing down fruitcup*

/commences countdown to ecstasy

296 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:10:44am

re: #289 AmeriDan

Looks like someone needs another group hug.

:)

then i'm for bed......

L8r!

/cooties

297 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:10:57am

re: #289 AmeriDan

I recall the time I took my friend's suggestion, and went with a blind date to a house/private home of some rich guy, and when we got there, it was a no-clothes-barred Group Grope!

Pile of naked people on the livingroom floor, and about 3 minutes for the girl and I to take our leave. Didnt let the door hit us on the way out!

/NOT my style! :(

298 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:10:58am

re: #294 Panhandler

Panhandler! ;-)

Ever notice how she and I are never on the threads at the same time? Hmmm?

/SOMEBODY's got to guard the CHOCOLATE!

299 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:11:16am

re: #296 redc1c4

then i'm for bed......

L8r!

/cooties

Bye red...

300 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:11:55am
301 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:11:58am
302 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:13:21am

re: #284 Karridine

Sorry. See Comment #7, above, Dan

No need for a sorry.

I saw your #7 comment earlier while I was at work lurking and had planned to use it sometime in the future to mess with your head. Who'd have thunk it would happen on the same thread?

303 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:13:38am

re: #298 littleoldlady

But I KNOW who you are, Little Olde... and all I need do to let everyone know your secret identity is ask: "Has ANYONE ever seen Little Olde Ladye and Spiderman in the same place, at the same time?"

BUSTED!

304 Panhandler  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:14:08am

re: #298 littleoldlady

Panhandler! ;-)

Ever notice how she and I are never on the threads at the same time? Hmmm?

/SOMEBODY's got to guard the CHOCOLATE!

red! Is nothing sacrosanct?

305 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:14:52am

Karridine
I didn't get it. You said it was at a rich guy's house.
But they were so poor they didn't even have clothes, poor souls!

Tsk. tsk.

306 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:14:54am

re: #302 AmeriDan

while I was ... lurking...

LMAO! :D

307 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:14:54am

Night red have a good sleep.

308 freetoken  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:15:20am

re: #273 littleoldlady

Mmmmm... something to go with my cottage cheese as I prepare to watch Quiet Earth as recommended by zombie....

309 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:15:34am

re: #296 redc1c4

Miguel DOES NOT have cooties!

/you meanie, you!

310 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:15:55am

re: #309 littleoldlady

Miguel DOES NOT have cooties!

/you meanie, you!

Only Q tips.

311 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:16:09am

re: #305 MigueldowninMexico

They were poor, in more ways than that, Miguel...

Swingin' Sixties... guess they just swang right on past me!

312 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:17:20am

re: #303 Karridine

Why are my hands sticky?

re: #304 Panhandler

Why are my hands sticky?

/cool. multi-purpose answers... ;-)

313 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:17:38am

re: #311 Karridine

They were poor, in more ways than that, Miguel...

Swingin' Sixties... guess they just swang right on past me!

uh oh, Those sixties were dangerous indeed!

Good reflection on possesions ;)

314 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:18:31am

freetoken! :-)

That looks....um...so healthy! ;-)

315 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:18:44am

re: #312 littleoldlady

Why are my hands sticky?

re: #304 Panhandler

Why are my hands sticky?

/cool. multi-purpose answers... ;-)

Because you grabed the honey jar?

316 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:20:20am

re: #297 Karridine

I recall the time I took my friend's suggestion, and went with a blind date to a house/private home of some rich guy, and when we got there, it was a no-clothes-barred Group Grope!

Pile of naked people on the livingroom floor, and about 3 minutes for the girl and I to take our leave. Didnt let the door hit us on the way out!

/NOT my style! :(

I feel your pain. I'm only comfortable in a pile of naked people when there is a 10 to 1 ratio of opposite sexes. I would, of course, be the one.

/a guy can dream, can't he?

317 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:21:25am

re: #312 littleoldlady

Where are your HANDS sticky? Where you've been... uhm...

fondling fruitcup fixins'

318 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:22:11am

who stole the cookies nuggets from the cookie Jar?
Whas it you?
Me? It well could be!

Channeling LoL

319 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:23:06am

re: #316 AmeriDan

THAT dream turns to a nightmare REAL QUICK, Danny Boyo!

If YOU had to keep 10 beauties serviced and satisfied, the glow would VERY SOON rub off the dream, Bunky! Real Soon!

320 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:23:10am

re: #315 MigueldowninMexico

Because you grabed the honey jar?

Winnie the Pooh is voting for Obama ... :-(

/no longer a fan

321 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:24:36am

re: #308 freetoken

Hmmm cottage cheese, chives(or scallions), lemon zest, fresh ground pepper, and salt. Now that's what I call delicious.

322 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:24:55am

re: #319 Karridine

THAT dream turns to a nightmare REAL QUICK, Danny Boyo!

If YOU had to keep 10 beauties serviced and satisfied, the glow would VERY SOON rub off the dream, Bunky! Real Soon!

re: #320 littleoldlady

Winnie the Pooh is voting for Obama ... :-(

/no longer a fan

The 100 acre wood is all for CHANGE!

323 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:26:19am

Another one bites the dust? LOL!

324 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:27:40am

re: #319 Karridine

THAT dream turns to a nightmare REAL QUICK, Danny Boyo!

If YOU had to keep 10 beauties serviced and satisfied, the glow would VERY SOON rub off the dream, Bunky! Real Soon!

Imagine those poor bustards with 72!
ROFL!

325 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:28:33am

re: #306 Karridine

while I was ... lurking...

LMAO! :D

I have my moments.

/still linking songs... this thread will be my library.

326 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:30:17am

re: #324 MigueldowninMexico

"Oh, NO, Achmed! I'm NOT THAT KIND OF GIRL!"

"Me either!"

"NO! NO TOUCHEE, Ahmed!"

Aaaaagh! I'm in HELL!

/well, duh, YEAH!

327 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:32:40am

re: #326 Karridine

"Oh, NO, Achmed! I'm NOT THAT KIND OF GIRL!"

"Me either!"

"NO! NO TOUCHEE, Ahmed!"

Aaaaagh! I'm in HELL!

/well, duh, YEAH!

That's a hot situation

The coran says: "fire above,fire below, fire in front, fire behind, fire to the sides"

They really enjoy it don't they?
Hmmm...

328 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:34:44am

re: #319 Karridine

THAT dream turns to a nightmare REAL QUICK, Danny Boyo!

If YOU had to keep 10 beauties serviced and satisfied, the glow would VERY SOON rub off the dream, Bunky! Real Soon!

I'm not saying I would make it out alive. Just a thought.

/single, drinking, etc.

//And yes, littleoldlady, I'm fine.

///just goofing around and having fun

:)

329 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:36:11am

re: #321 BlueCanuck

Hmmm cottage cheese, chives(or scallions), lemon zest, fresh ground pepper, and salt. Now that's what I call delicious.

Mmmm...

330 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:37:18am

re: #324 MigueldowninMexico

re: #326 Karridine

NO VIRGINS FOR YOU! ! !

331 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:39:48am
332 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:40:21am

re: #328 AmeriDan

I'm not saying I would make it out alive. Just a thought.

/single, drinking, etc.

//And yes, littleoldlady, I'm fine.

///just goofing around and having fun

:)

If you'r goofing around, I'm Mickey Mouseing around;)

My icon shows it lol

333 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:40:54am

re: #321 BlueCanuck

Hmmm cottage cheese, chives(or scallions), lemon zest, fresh ground pepper, and salt. Now that's what I call delicious.

Ewwwww!

334 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:40:57am

re: #330 AmeriDan

re: #326 Karridine

NO VIRGINS FOR YOU! ! !

Can I get two at least?

335 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:41:18am
336 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:41:59am

re: #335 ploome hineni

georgous avatar

It's my alter ego lol ;)

Thanks

337 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:42:35am

re: #332 MigueldowninMexico

If you'r goofing around, I'm Mickey Mouseing around;)

My icon shows it lol

I guess I should have clicked on it for a close up. I thought it was a picture of Obama.

338 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:42:49am

re: #330 AmeriDan

Is that a promise?

/Thank G-d! :D

/and thank you, Ameri Fatwa Dan

339 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:43:06am

re: #331 ploome hineni

the Brits KNOW what's important

Extremist preacher freed on bail in setback to British government

and

Schoolboy hacker Omar Khan who upped his grades faces 38 years in jail

WE ARE SO DOOMED

If Britain knew that anti-Appeasement America views Britain the way that anti-appeasement Britain viewed France in 1938, they would spit their tea.

340 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:43:21am

re: #337 AmeriDan

I guess I should have clicked on it for a close up. I thought it was a picture of Obama.

Sombady has already made a photoshop of Obama with Mickey's ears lol

341 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:43:46am

re: #334 MigueldowninMexico

Can I get two at least?

No

342 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:43:48am
343 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:43:58am

ploooooooooome! :-)

344 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:44:32am

re: #341 AmeriDan

No

Darn.

345 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:45:30am

re: #338 Karridine

Is that a promise?

/Thank G-d! :D

/and thank you, Ameri Fatwa Dan

Don't make me go all Jihadi on you.

/

346 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:45:44am
347 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:45:58am

re: #345 AmeriDan

Don't make me go all Jihadi on you.

/

LOL

348 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:46:23am

re: #344 MigueldowninMexico

Darn.

Ask me later, I'm all about redemption.

349 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:46:42am

re: #348 AmeriDan

Ask me later, I'm all about redemption.

Hahahahaha.

350 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:47:59am

re: #331 ploome hineni

Hey ploome.

351 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:48:23am

ploomie! :)

352 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:49:40am
353 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:56:17am

re: #342 MajorPribluda

Yi-Ha.

Did you mean... Yee Haw!

354 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:01:47am

Hey, People! Here's Joe American going all Red-White-and-Blue on Obama, Hillary and McCain!

It is short, powerful and WELL THOUGHT OUT!

355 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:02:57am

Well [verybigsigh] my time has expired here this morning. [sob!]

Good day, ALL!™

356 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:06:52am

re: #354 Karridine

Hey, People! Here's Joe American going all Red-White-and-Blue on Obama, Hillary and McCain!

It is short, powerful and WELL THOUGHT OUT!

Good one.

People should think long and hard before they take on the roll of Mr. Mom.

357 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:07:49am

night littleoldlady. See you at sunday buffet.

358 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:08:34am

re: #355 littleoldlady

Well [verybigsigh] my time has expired here this morning. [sob!]

Good day, ALL!™

Have a most wonderfull day. You are the best.

359 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:11:08am

re: #357 BlueCanuck

night littleoldlady. See you at sunday buffet.

What are you still doing here Blue? Didn't I ban you earlier?

:)

360 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:17:23am

re: #359 AmeriDan

Careful there, I might use the stick on you.

/looks around for my clue by four. should be here somewhere.

361 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:21:49am

re: #360 BlueCanuck

Careful there, I might use the stick on you.

/looks around for my clue by four. should be here somewhere.

Yeah, right, like I need a clue.

/Don't make me break out the red marker and start "checkin".

362 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:25:22am
363 opnion  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:31:37am

Good Morning Lizards. How did that Evolution thread go last night?
A lot of sensitivity.A couple of times I posted somethng & got an angry respose back to something that I did not actually say Oh well.
Overnight Interleague baseball results. !4 interleague games, the American leagued won 8. Summing up the last two nights,
American League 21, National League 8. Hmmmm

364 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:34:21am

re: #363 opnion

Good Morning Lizards.

Morning opnion.

365 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:35:05am

re: #363 opnion

Good Morning Lizards. How did that Evolution thread go last night?

Oddly enough, Charles won again.

366 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:35:58am

re: #353 AmeriDan

Did you mean... Yee Haw!

Naw. Nawt at awl.

367 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:36:45am

re: #363 opnion

We had an evolution thread?

/skim on by those now a days.

368 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:37:48am

The Goodre: #366 MajorPribluda

Naw. Nawt at awl.

Stuff

Sorry, me no speaka de english.

369 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:41:52am
370 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:50:49am
371 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:54:43am
372 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:58:43am

re: #365 MajorPribluda

Oddly enough, Charles won again.

He's undefeated by my count.

373 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 3:59:16am

Old School.

Sorry, LGF wigged out on me for a minute.

374 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:02:02am

You know that if you go to youtube and search for "America", the first page of results yields three types of things: anti-America, pro-America, and things which have absolutely nothing to do with America.

And the only things even remotely in the pro-American category are songs by Kim Wilde, Supertramp, and Neil Diamond.

So I'm listening to Neil Diamond's America, for the first time in over twenty years.

Oddly enough, I still know all the words.

375 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:02:28am

re: #372 AmeriDan

He's undefeated by my count.

Eerie, that.

376 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:03:57am

re: #374 MajorPribluda

I love that song... listening now.

377 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:04:37am

Well, these days, Neil Diamond looks like Bill O'Reilly and sounds like Lou Dobbs.

378 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:06:20am

Good morning, Lizards.

379 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:07:52am

Good Morning! We're having Neil Diamond over for breakfast. In which he asserts that he exists...

380 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:14:13am

Morning goddess

381 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:15:06am

Here's what I think Neil Diamond was trying to say. Jim Croce.

382 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:15:39am

re: #378 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning goddess.

383 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:16:33am

re: #380 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess

I saw your earlier comment about skimming past the evolution threads. I'm actually getting a little depressed about them--instead of the warmth and common ground we lizards share, they tend to become contentious to no purpose, I have enough drama and conflict in my real life--I don't need it in my virtual one,

384 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:20:22am

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

I saw your earlier comment about skimming past the evolution threads. I'm actually getting a little depressed about them--instead of the warmth and common ground we lizards share, they tend to become contentious to no purpose, I have enough drama and conflict in my real life--I don't need it in my virtual one,

Most dead threads turn into those these days.

385 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:22:36am

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes, I used to peruse them when they first popped up. But after the third or fourth one with everybody screaming at each other, I decided to just give them a pass. I got a lot better things to angst over than what a fellow lizard feels about a touchy subject like that.

/besides I would probably infuriate a lot of people with my beliefs. ;)

386 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:22:43am

re: #384 AmeriDan

Most dead threads turn into those these days.

If the Morning Dead Thread and Breakfast Buffet does, I'll cry. 'm serious.

387 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:23:45am

re: #380 BlueCanuck

Youse still around lurkin?

388 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:26:06am

re: #387 AmeriDan

Youse still around lurkin?

Damn, forget to re-engage the holograpic lurking cloak

/fades back into the mists of electrons and becomes one with the blog

389 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:27:49am

re: #386 goddessoftheclassroom

If the Morning Dead Thread and Breakfast Buffet does, I'll cry. 'm serious.

I know. Last night's late DT was relatively free of it, but that's a rarity these days.

390 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:28:50am

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

I saw your earlier comment about skimming past the evolution threads. I'm actually getting a little depressed about them--instead of the warmth and common ground we lizards share, they tend to become contentious to no purpose, I have enough drama and conflict in my real life--I don't need it in my virtual one,

I feel the same way, Goddess. Everybody is absolutely convinced they are right. On those threads you can just feel the tension. Hell, I even jumped all over right wing zephyr for no reason. Anyway I'll just skip them from now on, I don't need that kind of pressure.

391 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:29:32am

re: #389 AmeriDan

I know. Last night's late DT was relatively free of it, but that's a rarity these days.

But it wasn't fun. I know that sounds a little pathetic, but as I've observed before, commonality in a community is more important to cohesiveness than diversity.

392 DistantThunder  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:31:14am

Morning everyone. A cool crisp am here in south jersey, and I managed to beat the garbage truck tot he curb. Already a great day.

393 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:31:52am

re: #390 rightwinger3

I feel the same way, Goddess. Everybody is absolutely convinced they are right. On those threads you can just feel the tension. Hell, I even jumped all over right wing zephyr for no reason. Anyway I'll just skip them from now on, I don't need that kind of pressure.

I don't mind explaining my beliefs and disagreeing with anyone else's, but I do mind being told my beliefs are "wrong" or the implication that I'm stupid for believing them.

394 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:32:23am

re: #388 BlueCanuck

Damn, forget to re-engage the holograpic lurking cloak

/fades back into the mists of electrons and becomes one with the blog

If I didn't already have you on my list, with multiple check marks beside your name... I would... uh, put you on my list and add checkmarks.

/cloak that Mr Hide and Seek

395 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:32:44am

re: #391 goddessoftheclassroom

I know, they aren't as fun as they used to be. Some people, who won't be named, apparently took exception to the kibbitzing that happens on the dead threads. When they aren't around we do poke fun at the comments but I know I just dread them showing up and trying to smack us down.

/dang did it again. :)

396 DistantThunder  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:33:46am

We're mostly all conservatives on LGF, and sometimes it can sound like an echo chamber without a discussion highlighting the difference. I've learned very interesting things on the ID threads. They are challenging, but that's a good thing. It creates too much cognitive dissonance for some people, that's OK too.

397 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:35:56am

re: #395 BlueCanuck

I know, they aren't as fun as they used to be. Some people, who won't be named, apparently took exception to the kibbitzing that happens on the dead threads. When they aren't around we do poke fun at the comments but I know I just dread them showing up and trying to smack us down.

/dang did it again. :)

I don't even think there's a standard vocabulary of terms for the discussion.

398 MajorPribluda  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:37:31am

re: #397 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't even think there's a standard vocabulary of terms for the discussion.

Quite right. What gets me is that whenever I try to get terms straight, some peckahwood troll starts dancing.

399 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:37:52am

re: #396 DistantThunder

We're mostly all conservatives on LGF, and sometimes it can sound like an echo chamber without a discussion highlighting the difference. I've learned very interesting things on the ID threads. They are challenging, but that's a good thing. It creates too much cognitive dissonance for some people, that's OK too.

I don't mind discussion; I do mind insults. "Echo chamber" suggests people thoughtless agreeing with each other; shared opinions are not the same thing.

400 freetoken  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:39:30am

re: #391 goddessoftheclassroom

The DT is a bit more quiescent, still, in more ways than one.

I believe what we are witnessing, and in what we are partaking, is part of the process long foretold for the "right", "conservative", and/or "Republican" body politic. While Charles may not be on the ultra-bleeding edge of this, he is still pretty far ahead of the pack.

It was a fairly strange bedfellow-pact, between libertarians and the religious conservatives. IMO it was more a reaction to the 60's/70's Democrat majority in government and the subsequent expansion of government that drove various groups to coalesce politically.

Times change, and social organizations must change with them.

401 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:40:12am

re: #391 goddessoftheclassroom

But it wasn't fun. I know that sounds a little pathetic, but as I've observed before, commonality in a community is more important to cohesiveness than diversity.

Exactly, everyone is on edge waiting for someone to pop in and and respond to a comment made many hours ago that has long been hashed out. Then it all starts again, as if the same points and counter-points haven't been argued to death already.

I had fun last night (early morning) though.

402 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:44:16am

Good morning, LGF!

(Or talk.origins, as the case may be)

As a veteran of Usenet, it's interesting to observe that the gun control issue that generated such a volume of posts back in the day on talk.politics.guns is largely a nonissue here, but if you haul in topics from some of the other talk groups, like talk.abortion, or talk.origins, it's a real battle. The signal to noise ratio is a lot better here than it was back on the unmoderated Usenet, though.

*Yawn* Any fruitcup left?

403 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:44:31am

re: #400 freetoken

The DT is a bit more quiescent, still, in more ways than one.

I believe what we are witnessing, and in what we are partaking, is part of the process long foretold for the "right", "conservative", and/or "Republican" body politic. While Charles may not be on the ultra-bleeding edge of this, he is still pretty far ahead of the pack.

It was a fairly strange bedfellow-pact, between libertarians and the religious conservatives. IMO it was more a reaction to the 60's/70's Democrat majority in government and the subsequent expansion of government that drove various groups to coalesce politically.

Times change, and social organizations must change with them.

That is not the dead thread that I knew.

/wish I was kidding

404 buster bunny  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:45:33am

What i learned from the Intelligent Design thread ....

The chicken was innocent ... the egg did it.

405 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:45:48am

I have to go in for a summer workshop, so I'lk wish y'all a great day, dear Lizards.

406 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:47:55am

re: #393 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't mind explaining my beliefs and disagreeing with anyone else's, but I do mind being told my beliefs are "wrong" or the implication that I'm stupid for believing them.

Totally agree, Goddess. I hate it being implied or called stupid and asked to take a basic biology course when I know I have a 3.9 GPA. It's silly.

407 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:48:05am

re: #405 goddessoftheclassroom

have fun goddess, who knows maybe this is just a speedbump along the road of the blog.

/at least the maintenance here is better than my city.

408 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:49:21am

re: #402 Dar ul Harb

*Yawn* Any fruitcup left?

No, the evolutionist eat them all with nary a concern for you.

409 Dustyvet  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:50:36am

Sued Firm Wants Shari'a Law as Defense


[Link: www.military.com...]

410 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:50:50am

Well, good evening and A Dios to y'all...

Its coming up to 7PM here in jasmine-scented, dusk-dark suburban Bangkok, and that aint Maine, Folks...

I'm leaving early, so I wish you all the best in protecting what's GOOD about America, and working on the few, tiny things wrong with America...

Til the morrow, I bid thee farewell...

411 buster bunny  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:50:55am

re: #402 Dar ul Harb

Good morning, LGF!

*Yawn* Any fruitcup left?

The fruitcup evolved into something nasty .. and left after failing to make out with the pepper grinder.

Such is life.

412 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:51:14am

re: #408 AmeriDan

No, the evolutionist eat them all with nary a concern for you.

*urp* Pardon? Did I miss something?

/hands Dar ul Harb some from the Super Secret Fridge™

//always have backups

413 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:53:06am

re: #400 freetoken

The DT is a bit more quiescent, still, in more ways than one.

I believe what we are witnessing, and in what we are partaking, is part of the process long foretold for the "right", "conservative", and/or "Republican" body politic. While Charles may not be on the ultra-bleeding edge of this, he is still pretty far ahead of the pack.

Keep in mind though that both major parties are undergoing some sort of re-alignment now, and if I had to venture a guess, the Republicans are turning more squishy-soft as a result of the influx of moderate Democrats who are fleeing the radical hate-America left that has overtaken the Democratic Party.

The fracturing of the Democrats diverse coalition over the Clinton-Obama battle is just going to continue the process.

414 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:53:30am

Night Karridine. See you next time.

415 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:54:13am

re: #406 rightwinger3

"Well, ID-Mighty-Moo, I just MIGHT take that Biology course if you can tell me WHAT, SPECIFICALLY, I'm getting wrong..."

/Charles asked one guy about 9 times to simply offer his honest opinion on how old the Earth is... guy FINALLY begged '4 billion' and Charles said, "That weren't too hard, was it?"

416 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:55:08am

re: #412 BlueCanuck

*urp* Pardon? Did I miss something?

/hands Dar ul Harb some from the Super Secret Fridge™

//always have backups

Whew! Ice cold.
Just what I needed after a long night battling the forces of unreason.

417 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:55:45am

re: #414 BlueCanuck

Blue, Dar-ul Harb... check out that Joe American vid on YouTUBE...

Dy-NO_MITE!

/gnite

418 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 4:58:54am

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased."

-- C.S. Lewis

419 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:00:10am

re: #415 Karridine

"Well, ID-Mighty-Moo, I just MIGHT take that Biology course if you can tell me WHAT, SPECIFICALLY, I'm getting wrong..."

/Charles asked one guy about 9 times to simply offer his honest opinion on how old the Earth is... guy FINALLY begged '4 billion' and Charles said, "That weren't too hard, was it?"

Karridine, I'm with you I might as well take it again to see what I missed the first time.

420 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:00:54am

Morning all. From the sound of it, Charles latest ID/Evolution thread produced a few bumps and bruises but no caaualties, good.

Has Obambi made any more gaffs or is he still in spin control from yesterday?

421 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:01:51am

re: #412 BlueCanuck

*urp* Pardon? Did I miss something?

/hands Dar ul Harb some from the Super Secret Fridge™

//always have backups

I knew there was a secret fridge!

Damn you all to whatever respective places that by your beliefs you would consider a bad place to be!

422 Gambini  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:03:45am

That's bullshit. Give me money and I'll show you how to get happiness.

423 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:05:00am

re: #419 rightwinger3

Actually, RightWinger, I was a licensed doctor with a clinical practice until my son was kidnapped, and I was more pitching the "Yeah, I'll educate myself, Doofus that I am, IF and WHEN YOU (them, not you RW) tell me what it is that YOU understand and I DON'T!"

Somebody pops in, tells me I'm ignorant but doesn't SPECIFY my ignorant spot, and that's useless to HIM and to me!

***
Gnite, Blue Canuck! Be crazy, be kind!

424 Macker  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:06:58am

[Vicodin]
Good morning Lizards! La la la la la la la la....
[/Vicodin]

425 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:08:01am

re: #423 Karridine

Actually, RightWinger, I was a licensed doctor with a clinical practice until my son was kidnapped, and I was more pitching the "Yeah, I'll educate myself, Doofus that I am, IF and WHEN YOU (them, not you RW) tell me what it is that YOU understand and I DON'T!"

Somebody pops in, tells me I'm ignorant but doesn't SPECIFY my ignorant spot, and that's useless to HIM and to me!

Yeah, okay I gotcha now. I'm with you there too.

426 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:09:39am

re: #421 AmeriDan

Well if every one knew where it was than it wouldn't be secret at all, hmmmm?


/heh heh heh.

427 infidelia  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:12:13am

Hello Lizardia. Not sure what sort of morning I'm having. Does anyone know what it means if the "check engine" light comes on and the car vibrates and smoke comes out from under the hood?

428 Karridine  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:12:49am

re: #426 BlueCanuck

To know what I know
And what I don't know
Is, in a sense
Omniscience

/keep the fridge HIDDEN, Gang!

429 docremulac  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:13:10am

Progressives are sane, level headed people who make good, sensible laws.

Only problem with this is, I see a certain arrogance that we life forms have when dealing with non-living individuals. Just because the plants and animals are alive we're somehow more worthy of protection than rocks? (sarcasm)

430 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:14:16am

re: #427 infidelia

Hello Lizardia. Not sure what sort of morning I'm having. Does anyone know what it means if the "check engine" light comes on and the car vibrates and smoke comes out from under the hood?

Did you make it to the local coffee shop before all this happened? If so it should be a good morning for ya.

431 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:14:38am

I just knew it was all our fault.

Enshayan, director of an environmental center at the University of Northern Iowa, suspects that this natural disaster wasn't really all that natural. He points out that the heavy rains fell on a landscape radically reengineered by humans

432 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:14:58am

re: #426 BlueCanuck

Well if every one knew where it was than it wouldn't be secret at all, hmmmm?


/heh heh heh.

:)

**places yet another check mark next to BlueCanuck on my list**

433 songbird  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:15:09am

Good morning , Lizards!

Great quote, Cap'n DOC.

434 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:16:23am

re: #427 infidelia

Maybe a broken timing belt, if your lucky.

435 songbird  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:16:52am

re: #427 infidelia

Hello Lizardia. Not sure what sort of morning I'm having. Does anyone know what it means if the "check engine" light comes on and the car vibrates and smoke comes out from under the hood?

That sounds scary!

What does it mean when the battery light comes on when you are driving?

436 infidelia  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:18:03am

re: #434 Bubblehead II

Maybe a broken timing belt, if your lucky.

What if I'm not lucky?

437 freetoken  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:18:17am

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world...

Turkey: Singer tried on charges of dissent

Ankara, 18 June (AKI) - One of Turkey's most famous singers, Bulent Ersoy, has gone on trial charged with trying to turn the public against military service.

The charges were brought after she suggested it was not worth sacrificing soldiers' lives in Turkey's struggle to control the outlawed separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

Pakistan: Man sentenced to death for insulting Islam

Sialkot, 19 June (AKI/DAWN) - A Pakistani judge has sentenced a man to death and life imprisonment on charges of blasphemy and desecration of the Muslim holy book, the Koran.

Shafiq Latif of Kulluwal in northeastern Pakistan is alleged to have made derogatory remarks against the Prophet Mohammed and desecrated pages of the Koran on 17 March 2006.
[...]
Banners and posters welcoming the verdict were displayed in different locations in the local area.

Iran: Young Kurdish feminist gets five-year jail term

Tehran, 19 June (AKI) - A court in the capital of Iranian Kurdistan, Sanandaj has sentenced 21-year-old Kurdish feminist Hana Abdi to five years in prison for "subversive activities" and "collaboration with the enemy".

The court ruled that Abdi must serve her jail term in a prison far from her native Kurdistan. Prior to her trial and sentencing on Wednesday, she was reportedly tortured and accused of associating with armed groups.

Police last October arrested Abdi, a psychology student at Payam University, as she attended a meeting of a local feminist group.

438 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:18:20am

re: #427 infidelia

Hello Lizardia. Not sure what sort of morning I'm having. Does anyone know what it means if the "check engine" light comes on and the car vibrates and smoke comes out from under the hood?

Does the "smoke" smell like something burning or like water steaming?

439 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:18:39am

re: #432 AmeriDan

:)

**places yet another check mark next to BlueCanuck on my list**

So if I get to ten check marks do I get an upgrade?

*evil grin*

440 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:18:50am

re: #427 infidelia

Hello Lizardia. Not sure what sort of morning I'm having. Does anyone know what it means if the "check engine" light comes on and the car vibrates and smoke comes out from under the hood?

It means the local car guru gets that trip to Hawaii he always wanted.

441 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:19:15am

The Muslim women mess made the front page at AOL.

442 infidelia  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:19:42am

re: #430 rightwinger3

Did you make it to the local coffee shop before all this happened? If so it should be a good morning for ya.

Actually I made it around the block so I'm home and waiting for the mechanic's to open so I can call him and AAA.

443 infidelia  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:20:28am

re: #438 AmeriDan

Does the "smoke" smell like something burning or like water steaming?

Burning. No leaks of any kind under the car at the parking space.

444 freetoken  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:20:57am

re: #431 Bubblehead II

Could well be... Iowa was a land of tall grass before it was a territory, and essentially digging up the whole area very well could impact all the drainage.

445 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:22:21am

re: #439 BlueCanuck

So if I get to ten check marks do I get an upgrade?

*evil grin*

IF? I'm on my second sharpie due to your shenanigans.

446 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:23:04am
Aref, who was born in the United States to Egyptian immigrants, said she had defended Obama during the primaries against a constant drumbeat of rumors that he was Muslim. Obama is a Christian.

Obama also has been careful in denouncing the links, noting that some rumors about him also have been insulting to Muslims.

"I don't want to be called something I'm not, but I felt like ... everyone was treating this accusation of being Muslim as though it were some sort of crime or sin," Aref said.

She was grateful that the group she was with at the rally, which included her brother, Sharif, as well as non-Muslim colleagues of his, declined the invitation to take seats behind Obama after she was refused.

Still, she said, it was difficult to hear Obama's message of unity among races.

"As he's saying it, I'm thinking, 'Well, wait a minute, I was obviously ... profiled and discriminated against an hour ago.'"

ISLAM IS NOT A RACE!

447 rightwinger3  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:23:31am

re: #442 infidelia

Actually I made it around the block so I'm home and waiting for the mechanic's to open so I can call him and AAA.

I thought you were kidding. Sorry. Smoke coming from an engine can be bad although I'm not a mechanic.

448 AmeriDan  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:23:31am

re: #443 infidelia

Burning. No leaks of any kind under the car at the parking space.

Still smoking?

449 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:23:44am

re: #436 infidelia

Possibly a cracked cylinder. Did it start pouring smoke out of the tail pipe as well? I ask this as my wife's Chrysler Sundance did something similar and it turned out to be a crack between #3 and #4 cylinders. Goodbye Sundance, hello Civic.