Shocked they are being honest for once.

Ooooh. Roto-Reuters. Easier flushing.

Hamas is reloading.

My prediction, Islamic Jihad or some other group will fire rockets, Israel will respond, Hamas will claim that Israel broke the cease fire.

GAZA (Reuters) - Israel and Hamas halted fighting in the Gaza Strip on Thursday but, with wider peace prospects hazy, both sides voiced doubt over how long the Egyptian- brokered ceasefire might hold.

Hamas: I've just got this really itchy trigger finger and the withdrawals are starting to kick in. I'm not sure how long I can keep this up.

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My prediction, Islamic Jihad or some other group will fire rockets, Israel will respond, Hamas will claim that Israel broke the cease fire.

SOP for the Palis.

As part of the truce agreements, Hamas is suppose to cease and desist from smuggling weapons into Gaza? Boy that's a knee slapper!

I pessimistically gave it two hours. Honestly, I'm surprised it's gone this long.

Israel-Hamas truce begins but duration in doubt

The understatement of the millennium.

Then again, these truces usually are just a means of regrouping and time for bomb manufacture by the Palis.

Heck, I'm just gonna hum the theme from Jeopardy.

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

I pessimistically gave it two hours. Honestly, I'm surprised it's gone this long.

They're working out the elevation and azimuth on the Kassam launchers. Give 'em a minute.

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

re: #13 Cicero05

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

Syphilis?

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A truce with extremist splinter groups within extremist HAMAS within extremist Islam.

What could possibly go wrong?

re: #13 Cicero05

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

I believe his response was a rasberry while giving the finger.

If it's days, it's only because there's been a sizable "work accident."

200 quatloos the cease fire doesn't last a day

re: #14 Hard Right

Syphilis?

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

The Reuter's headline has already been written:

Israel Violates Truce

Hamas - Israel truce time period is measured with an egg timer. When the sand stops pouring ..........

re: #22 MJ

The Reuter's headline has already been written:

Israel Violates Truce

Sad, but true.

If this truce holds (and I seriously doubt it given the Hamas shakes, rattles, and rolls), it puts to bed the lie that Hamas could not clamp down on rogue elements and stop the bombardment of Israel. It simply wasn't in their interests to do so before, and that it is now is telling.

It tells me that Hamas was hurt badly, and needed a breather. Israel is giving it to them instead of putting the hurt on Hamas thugs. This is a big mistake, and the Israelis will compound it by negotiating on the Golan return.

Israel will regret this truce, because it means that Hamas and the other terrorists will have used their time away from work to regroup and rearm for the next phase of their war with Israel.

The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?

re: #19 shibumi

If it's days, it's only because there's been a sizable "work accident."

There was one, recently, wasn't there?
Explains the cease-fire; the accident took out most of their explosive stockpile and they need to import more. Don't want to import explosives while their are shots being fired in the area.

If the messiah gets the job it's going to be fun to watch him come apart at the seams, hopefully a large block of Americans won't be killed while he's getting OJT as CiC! He's not ready now and never will be.

I gotta credit Al Gore.
"There is no controlling legal authority,'' in Islam.
Who can the representatives of hamas speak for?
Only themselves.

re: #22 MJ

The Reuter's headline has already been written:

Israel Violates Truce

Bush is to blame

I hosey 18 hours. Starting.......now.

re: #13 Cicero05

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

He's got apple-pie in the sky hopes that this time it will work out? (C'mon, you all know the song, hum along with Ehud!)

Or...he figures that if he tries the same tactic (appeasement) over and over and over again, it's bound to eventually work. Pooh told him so!

re: #25 lawhawk

If this truce holds (and I seriously doubt it given the Hamas shakes, rattles, and rolls), it puts to bed the lie that Hamas could not clamp down on rogue elements and stop the bombardment of Israel. It simply wasn't in their interests to do so before, and that it is now is telling.

It tells me that Hamas was hurt badly, and needed a breather. Israel is giving it to them instead of putting the hurt on Hamas thugs. This is a big mistake, and the Israelis will compound it by negotiating on the Golan return.

Israel will regret this truce, because it means that Hamas and the other terrorists will have used their time away from work to regroup and rearm for the next phase of their war with Israel.

The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?

What is write is true. However, what is important, indeed, the only important factor is that Olmert remain in power.

Love you,Charles but three days? Would you be interested in some oceanfront property in Nevada?

re: #32 MJ

What is write is true. However, what is important, indeed, the only important factor is that Olmert remain in power.

Sorry:

What you wrote is true....

re: #25 lawhawk

Your a real pessimist. Just look how well that cease fire with Lebanon and Hizballah has worked out. They have only double or tripled their supplies? And the UN has done such a superb job also. And Syria has been so helpful, aside from that little nuke thing.

Olmert is offering up major concessions, which I think relate to his disengagement from reality. He thinks that Hamas could be a negotiating partner. Never mind that Hamas doesn't recognize Israel other than from Google Maps to plot attack coordinates. Hamas and Fatah are rolling Israel, and Olmert is falling for it completely. He's negotiating into a position of weakness, when there was no such need.

re: #29 LeftJustAintRight

Bush is to blame

Excuse me, but it will be the Zionist lobby(or the Zionist ballroom- we have expanded beyond the lobby)

re: #10 JammieWearingFool

Then again, these truces usually are just a means of regrouping and time for bomb manufacture by the Palis.

Hmm, another possible truce-breaker is that there is a pali "work-accident" that gets blamed on Israel.

I standby my earlier stance. I think Hamas will wait until Israel eases border restrictions (scheduled after 3 days of "calm"), and once Israel gets lax, they will do something major.

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

Heh.
Even if Olmert doesn't have it, I would still believe his brain looks like swiss cheese.

What will come first, a suiside bomber in Tel Aviv or new revelation about an Obama supporter being too fringe for the campaign?

LOL, this truce will end up like all the other ones. Hamas sits around for a couple of days, bored and with no work to do. Then, they get back to business as usual, bombing innocent people, and with irony, they say that the Israeli's broke the truce. Seriously, I really want what they are smoking or at least, the 'I am holier than thou' juice. And to make matters worse, the MSM and the UN will buy into it and cater to them.... Again...

Coz out

re: #26 Kosh's Shadow

There was one, recently, wasn't there?
Explains the cease-fire; the accident took out most of their explosive stockpile and they need to import more. Don't want to import explosives while their are shots being fired in the area.

Isn't that the whole "hunda" theory? Make a truce in bad spirit while giving yourself time to stockpile and regroup?

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

OOH, another old timer here. Baseball been berry berry good to him

re: #40 DeafDog

What will come first, a suiside bomber in Tel Aviv or new revelation about an Obama supporter being too fringe for the campaign?

My money is on an Obama supporter going under the big bus.

no they did no lie per sey,
but i could not get past the 3hird paragraph,, of course Just befor the truce began, Iarael did this, and that in the day s before the poor palis with "improvixed" mortars had sent "dozes causing no harm" but Israel had wounded some palis,, just can't take the continued LIE that Israel is the agressor, untill this view is changed, which will never happen, it will be more more more LIES LIES LIES

re: #15 buzzsawmonkey

"Why must the test of everything be its durability?"

--Tea and Sympathy

Sorry Buzzsaw, but Wha?

/ducks as reference zooms over his head

Doesn't the 'book of the moon god' say something about calling a truce to re-arm and defeat your foe once and for all?

Sigh.. there should be no truce with these war mongering death cult ham-assholes.

re: #40 DeafDog
I seriously hope the too fringe supporter- perhaps a failed suicide bomber himself?

re: #40 DeafDog

Even money.

re: #43 madisonsfriend

OOH, another old timer here. Baseball been berry berry good to him

Boxing has been good to me Howard.

If you gave all of Israel to the palestinians they would turn it into a refugee camp and start launching rockets into Jordan.

re: #25 lawhawk

The answer is - yes, thats exactly what we'll see.

That is what 'hudna' means.

re: #38 rlevitin

Hmm, another possible truce-breaker is that there is a pali "work-accident" that gets blamed on Israel.

I standby my earlier stance. I think Hamas will wait until Israel eases border restrictions (scheduled after 3 days of "calm"), and once Israel gets lax, they will do something major.

It will be some "unknown" group or Islamic Jihad that "breaks" this farce...ooops, truce. The media will of course buy it just as the buy the fact that the Al Aqsa Birgade isn't related to Fatah.

re: #43 madisonsfriend

OOH, another old timer here. Baseball been berry berry good to him

"I am Idi Ami Da-da!"

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

You eat people?

Three days? I fear you are unduly optimistic Charles. I give it maybe 48 hours. And that's being generous in my mind.

re: #40 DeafDog,

That is not the suicide bomber I have known?

re: #44 Nevergiveup

My money is on an Obama supporter going under the big bus.

That is the correct answer, but only because it is approaching evening in Tel Aviv.

re: #29 LeftJustAintRight

Bush is to blame

Women, Children and Minorities Hardest Hit

If the damn Jews would commit mass national suicide we would not be having this conversation

/you know

re: #56 realwest

Three days? I fear you are unduly optimistic Charles. I give it maybe 48 hours. And that's being generous in my mind.

still significantly up from the 6 hours a few days ago.

Come to think of it, I suspect that this truce may last until Hamas gets its prisoners released, but before Gilad Shalit is released. Since Hamas will have gotten what it wants, it will conclude that it has no need for continuing the truce, and therefore restart its war, refreshed with those released prisoners who will make a great photo op to go on the wall at Hamas HQ.

I'm still a W fan and I think his popularity will get a bump as he holds the moonbats feet to the fire about drilling for more "awl"!

re: #58 DeafDog

That is the correct answer, but only because it is approaching evening in Tel Aviv.

Coumous, babgonous, and Maccabi Beers all around on me!

re: #60 LeftJustAintRight

If the damn Jews would commit mass national suicide we would not be having this conversation

/you know

As Stalin liked to say. "Death solves all problems. No man, No Problem!"

Not Even Reuters Can Lie About This

Because they wouldn't pay AP to quote them.

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

"I am Idi Amin Dadda - that's spelled with three Ds, two As, and one gun..."

/GAWD those folks were funny!

re: #65 rlevitin

As Stalin liked to say. "Death solves all problems. No man, No Problem!"

there should be a sarc tag there...

*insert*
/

re: #60 LeftJustAintRight

If the damn Jews would commit mass national suicide we would not be having this conversation

/you know

Yes we would, but just with different enemies.

re: #63 'Nam Grunt

I'm still a W fan and I think his popularity will get a bump as he holds the moonbats feet to the fire about drilling for more "awl"!

Only if he gets the support of every Republican in Congress. Hooo...ha. I can't stop laughing-sorry.

I wonder how long Reuters will allow bloggers such as Little Green Footballs to link to their "News" (note the quotes).

AP's already done it -- I'm betting Reuter's is next.

Especially 'cause we treat Reuters the respect they deserve on this blog.

re: #62 lawhawk

Come to think of it, I suspect that this truce may last until Hamas gets its prisoners released, but before Gilad Shalit is released. Since Hamas will have gotten what it wants, it will conclude that it has no need for continuing the truce, and therefore restart its war, refreshed with those released prisoners who will make a great photo op to go on the wall at Hamas HQ.

And with bigger payloads.

re: #69 DeafDog

Yes we would, but just with different enemies.

It would be the U.S.

re: #7 Nevergiveup

I am sure I am just preaching to the converted here, but you'd think that Israel would have learned its lesson by now.

It isn't as if this is the first time they have had a Hudna with Hamas, and they always end up the same way. (with more weapons in Hamas' hands and a stronger Hamas).

Besides the aforementioned, it makes no sense to deal with Hamas at all as the entire policy of Israel since 2005 was to bolster the PLO to weaken Hamas and eliminate it. So, if Israel is going to deal with Hamas now, they will in essence be bolstering both Terrrorists groups. Where is the advantage of that?

Is it the brilliant Israeli plan to strengthen the PLO ("so they can fight Hamas") then strengthen Hamas, then allow them both to merge? Wom do the geniuses in Israel think the Terrorist groups are going to fight then? Oh that's right all we need to do to answer that question is ask them, as they have never said they would accept anything less than all Gaza, all Judea/Samaria, all Jerusalem, and a contiguous state.

Olmert and those who surround him (the traitor of Al-Kadima) should [self deleted]

re: #10 JammieWearingFool

Then again, these truces usually are just a means of regrouping and time for bomb manufacture by the Palis.

Would you like some guacamole on your taqqiya?

re: #64 Nevergiveup

Coumous, babgonous, and Maccabi Beers all around on me!

I want falafel from Ben Yehuda street- the stand near Danny's souvenir store.

re: #62 lawhawk

Come to think of it, I suspect that this truce may last until Hamas gets its prisoners released, but before Gilad Shalit is released. Since Hamas will have gotten what it wants, it will conclude that it has no need for continuing the truce, and therefore restart its war, refreshed with those released prisoners who will make a great photo op to go on the wall at Hamas HQ.

Think they have a bomb-builder-of-the-month?

re: #75 coquimbojoe

Would you like some guacamole on your taqqiya?

And all this time I thought taqqiya was a stiff drink!

re: #67 CIA Reject

"I am Idi Amin Dadda - that's spelled with three Ds, two As, and one gun..."

/GAWD those folks were funny!

So do you guys remember the Snakehandlers O'Shea- it was in the first few years of SNL- Belushi was definitely part of it.

From the Hamas Times headlines:
More rocket launchers laid off work today. Unemployed workers hopeful that business will pick up soon and they can return to work.
One laid off worker, Abdul, fears the worst. "I have no other skills", he reports, "who else is going to hire me at my age? Launching rockets is all I know".

re: #77 Hard Right

Think they have a bomb-builder-of-the-month?

Martyr of the month?

re: #81 Fat Jolly Penguin

Martyr of the month?

That one is partly true. The schools have pics of martyrs lining the walls.

re: #75 coquimbojoe

Would you like some guacamole on your taqqiya?

sour cream and salsa as well.

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

chuck,

maybe you could post one of your surveys on predicting when the truce is broken... i almost suggested your survey also predict whom the offending party would be.

re: #79 madisonsfriend

So do you guys remember the Snakehandlers O'Shea- it was in the first few years of SNL- Belushi was definitely part of it.

Yes, but not as well as I remember the Olympia Cafe sketches (Cheeburger! Cheeburger!)

Or Samurai *Fill In the Blank*

/Good Times...

re: #86 coquimbojoe

It worked out great for Chavez so far.

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Yeah, posted that earlier. They'll get this to work.

/

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Brilliant idea! The Next step will be fixing the press and rationing the supply so all you rich folks don't get the gas that rightfully belongs to us orphans.

re: #89 Killgore Trout

It worked out great for Chavez so far.

I see a campaign commercial.

errr...i meant fixing the 'price' - I got too excited with my pending windfall.

If Israel doesn't agree with the hudna, that will just reinforce the global view of Israel as the "oppressor" of the powerless Palestinians. I'm sure most Israelies think of this hudna as a farce, but the UN would severly castigate Israel if it did not accept it.

But wait, the UN already considers israel as the bad guy...

re: #74 WrathofG-d

re: #77 Hard Right

Think they have a bomb-builder-of-the-month?

ACK! Now I have a new Hamas TV kid's show in my head:

"Bomb-the-Builder"

Somebody pass the brain bleach, PLEASE!

re: #25 lawhawk

...
The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?

I keep thinking that one of these times, it will be a headline and story describing a bunch of random jihadis, their human shields, and random people around being killed or injured by debris falling back onto them. Israel will have knocked down the rocket on its way up... Get it done, Israel!

re: #88 CIA Reject

Yes, but not as well as I remember the Olympia Cafe sketches (Cheeburger! Cheeburger!)

Or Samurai *Fill In the Blank*

/Good Times...

I do, of course, remember those. How could Belushi have destroyed himself?

SKYDIVE for Israel

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Oh! I wish they would. Upper East Side limousine liberals will be eating each other in six weeks...

EXCLUSIVE: Hezbollah Poised to Strike?
Officials Say "Sleeper Cells" Activated in Canada

Intelligence agencies in the United States and Canada are warning of mounting signs that Hezbollah, backed by Iran, is poised to mount a terror attack against "Jewish targets" somewhere outside the Middle East.

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Because the Post Office is so efficient?

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

SKYDIVE for Israel

I'm skipping this way of support Israel. I'll just send the money directly.

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

As I said on another thread, since they won't be able to get control through normal legal means (eg., referendum, legislative processes, etc.), they'll co-opt some lawsuit that is in the works and have the unelected, unaccountable judiciary do the job.

/absolutely not kidding

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Your gasoline and home heating oil supply - from the people who brought you AMTRAK and the Susan B. Anthony dollar. Yeah, that'll work...

re: #81 Fat Jolly Penguin

Martyr of the month?

"Hi, my name is Mohammed. My favorite color is green. I have a BA in metal shop from Gaza U. I enjoy rocketry and spelunking. I hope one day to have my own harem of 72 virgins"

re: #100 experiencedtraveller

Oh! I wish they would. Upper East Side limousine liberals will be eating each other in six weeks...

Not so fast. Party member will get special ration cards. Gun toters who cling to their religion may be SOL.

You cannot negotiate with someone who denies your right to live.

You also cannot accept moral fault for the evil acts of others.

re: #108 The Other Les

You cannot negotiate with someone who denies your right to live.

You also cannot accept moral fault for the evil acts of others.

Amen.

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan
Um, gee I'd really like to jump out of an otherwise perfectly good airplane, but I'm kinda busy that day.
Will send donation instead!

re: #107 DeafDog,

But they have guns...

WTF just happened?

I had LGF open in IE when the browser stopped responding and I had to kill the process. Then COULD NOT LOAD LGF. I emptied the cache, restarted the router, then opened LGF in Firefox, but response time is still slow.

If Michelle's "Sweet & pathetic" husband was in office, this truce would hold.
Lightworkers heal planets.

re: #111 Iron Fist

True, but they also have a conscience.

Just submit to the party and you will get a special ration card, too. Obama is the messiah.

re: #98 madisonsfriend

I do, of course, remember those. How could Belushi have destroyed himself?

Yes, it is quite sad- so much talent lost. To think what he could have done. Still we have the memories so when things get tough for us we can always ask: "WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?" and laugh...

US accuses Venezuelan diplomat of working for Hizbullah

The US froze the assets of two Venezuelan citizens, including a diplomat from the South American country, on suspicion that the two had ties to Hizbullah, Reuters reported on Wednesday night.

Washington accused the two men, Fauzi Kanan and Ghazi Nasr al Din, of raising funds for Hizbullah's headquarters in Lebanon.

Washington also forbade US citizens from forging business ties with the two.

Al-Din had been employed of late as charge d'affaires at the Venezuelan embassy in Damascus and is currently working as political affairs director of Venezuela's embassy in Lebanon.

re: #95 Pyrocles

If Israel doesn't agree with the hudna, that will just reinforce the global view of Israel as the "oppressor" of the powerless Palestinians. I'm sure most Israelies think of this hudna as a farce, but the UN would severly castigate Israel if it did not accept it.

But wait, the UN already considers israel as the bad guy...

Israel will be blamed for the end of the truce regardless...

re: #104 Sunlight Nah, even if the Dems tried to do it that way, just think how much of our tax dollars it would take to satisfy the undeniable position of the US Constitution which specifies that no one can be deprived of their property without just compensation.
Man, the lawsuits on what would constitue "just compensation" would take forever!

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Saw that yesterday, and said then what I'll say again. It will not create a single watt of new power or another ounce of gasoline. It will increase the costs for fuel and other energy, not reduce them.

Such is the state of economics 101 among the Democrats that they're even floating the idea (and not for the first time either - Hinchey only tread on ground previously mentioned by Waters).

re: #105 CIA Reject

Your gasoline and home heating oil supply - from the people who brought you AMTRAK and the Susan B. Anthony dollar. Yeah, that'll work...

Do you get the feeling our government is ruling through polls, which time after time end up being hugely wrong when the real vote comes in... Can they nationalize things based on crooked polls? They can't win on a real vote, unless the opposition (GOP) congress people are running scared based on the crooked polls. I think that's why there seems to be such a disconnect going on. Crooked polls sponsored and reported on by the template-based press.

I suspect the rockets are all primed and ready to go for the next "incident".

I give it two days max.

re: #20 Kosh's Shadow

200 quatloos the cease fire doesn't last a day

Yep, we need a cease-fire pool.

On the Obama front, Powerline has an entry worth reading, Does Obama know what he's talking about? You may guess the answer, some howlers about 9/11, etc.

Future News Reporting: What nationalized refineries in the US would look like.

re: #105 CIA Reject

If it costs $3.00 a gallon to refine and deliver a gallon of gas that congress sets a price of fifty cents on, who pays the other $2.50?

re: #122 Cygnus

Yep, we need a cease-fire pool.

Cease-pool?

re: #125 FamHistoryGuy

If it costs $3.00 a gallon to refine and deliver a gallon of gas that congress sets a price of fifty cents on, who pays the other $2.50?

I dunno, but that's how they do it in China.

It must be mentioned that Hamas fired 29 Qassam Rockets at Israel hours before the so-called Truce was taking place.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #118 realwest

It may be important for the party to fix the price of a gallon of gas, first. Once that destroy the profitability of owning a refinery, the refiners will be crying for the govt. takeover....it'll be a win-win.

{sarcasm}

re: #110 realwest

Who says they are otherwise perfectly good airplanes? Speaking from a vantage point of 322 jumps.

re: #123 itellu3times

On the Obama front, Powerline has an entry worth reading, Does Obama know what he's talking about? You may guess the answer, some howlers about 9/11, etc.

Do not let the uhs and ummms fool you
He knows exactly what he is talking about
He just cant say out loud what he is thinking
One world Government and everyone works for the state
Hussein Obamas Hope

re: #95 Pyrocles

If Israel doesn't agree with the hudna, that will just reinforce the global view of Israel as the "oppressor" of the powerless Palestinians. I'm sure most Israelies think of this hudna as a farce, but the UN would severly castigate Israel if it did not accept it.

But wait, the UN already considers israel as the bad guy...

I think Israel, even Olmert, know how to do this. Agree to the hudna, and keep shooting at high-value targets. After all, this is legal by hudna rules for at least one side, right?

re: #95 Pyrocles

Israel cannot accept agreements and pressure that is going to futher place her citizens and national security (nay, survival) in jeapardy because of public opinion. This is a lesson the Jewish people were supposed to learn in Egypt (Moses bucked the trend you know), then Israel (with Greece), then Germany, and now Israel again.

This is especially true when she is being asked to take steps that have repeatedly been proven wrong, and accept presumptions that are contiinuously proven false. This "land for peace" and "Hudna" thing have been attempted, by the good will of Israel, numerous times and have failed everytime. At each failure the enemy is stronger and more brazen.

The lives of the Jewish people, and the survival of the State of Israel are not pawns to be used and controlled by external, non-Israeli forces. (or in short, "the World" can take a long walk...as it is not their citizens being murdered, or their land being surrendered). This is not some game where we try it again because it just might work, and there is no risk involved. Their is risk and the risk is great. It is about time that the leaders of Israel respect the lives of their citizens (as the founders did) more then they do their own popularity. Amoung all the politics and hang wringing of the "international bodies", People are getting killed. We cannot forget this fact. The Jewish people are not a concept or statistic to be weighed and counted, negotiated, and traded by "international bodies" and nay-sayers.

Lastly, Israel's job (which we often forget) is to lead the world as a light unto the nations. They cannot do that while they are continuously handing the switch over to "international bodies". The Jewish people have a right and a duty to be the controllers of our own destiny. By now we should have learned that when we give away this right, and depend on the ignorance of others, we are the ones that suffere the consequences.

re: #119 lawhawk

The reason for the nationalization will be to dole out the supply equally to all, which is the noblest of goals. Stop you complaining. If you do not get with the program there will be no ration card for you!

{more sarcasm}

re: #102 Nevergiveup

Because the Post Office is so efficient?

Actually the post office is not a government organization. Its a private "company" that sort of belongs to the US government. It was established by the executive branch.

re: #128 Age Of Freedom

Yeah. but that was expected. they did state that they would "fight" (read: launch cowardly rockets from civilian territory) until the last second.

My best guess is Hamas may let this continue until the border crossings are reopened and they can launch a more successful conventional mortar and suicide attack than their last folly which only ended up killing the suicide truck bomber.

re: #125 FamHistoryGuy

If it costs $3.00 a gallon to refine and deliver a gallon of gas that congress sets a price of fifty cents on, who pays the other $2.50?

You, the taxpayer.

(Who did you think was going to pay? Politicians?)

re: #127 itellu3times

I dunno, but that's how they do it in China.

And China has just reset its prices - hiking them anywhere from 18-25%. They're still subsidizing the prices, but now have set the prices much higher - probably higher than the Chinese people can afford.

re: #137 HardRain

My best guess is Hamas may let this continue until the border crossings are reopened and they can launch a more successful conventional mortar and suicide attack than their last folly which only ended up killing the suicide truck bomber.

thats what i said...

re: #38 rlevitin

Make the truce. Observe it closely. AND - Quietly - cut off Electricity, Petroleum, Food, Water and Medicine to GAZA. That is all. -S-

re: #98 madisonsfriend

I do, of course, remember those. How could Belushi have destroyed himself?

FWIU from some reading, he didn't feel anyone would love him for himself-he always had to be John Belushi COMEDIAN.

The same thing killed Chris Farley.

re: #133 WrathofG-d

Agree - needs to be said again and again!

re: #33 madisonsfriend

Love you,Charles but three days? Would you be interested in some oceanfront property in Nevada?

Lex Luthor Real Estate can get you some nice oceanfront property.

re: #140 rlevitin

Ah, great minds. Sorry, I only perused the last bunch of comments. Dibs is all yours ;)

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

Sounds super, man.

Kneel to Zod........b*tch!

re: #148 HardRain

s'all good :p

Great minds... indeed =)

re: #123 itellu3times

On the Obama front, Powerline has an entry worth reading, Does Obama know what he's talking about? You may guess the answer, some howlers about 9/11, etc.

The very fact that Obama stiil believes that treating the first bombing of the World Trade Center as a pure legal issue was good policy, is disturbing.
Treating Terrorists as subjects of legal investigations is what prevented Clinton from taking bin Laden from the Sudan, "no legal authority."
It is also why we were not vigilant prior to 9/11. Guys taking flying lessons in the U.S , but not interested in landing?
Obama is a real dangerous choice for President.

re: #133 WrathofG-d

Excellent post.

re: #138 yma o hyd

Yep, that was my answer. Or they could just have the workers work gratis as their "community service". I'm sure the dems could find enough "willing" community minded souls.

re: #88 CIA Reject

Yes, but not as well as I remember the Olympia Cafe sketches (Cheeburger! Cheeburger!)

Or Samurai *Fill In the Blank*

/Good Times...

Coke Nazis! 'No Coke! Pepsi!'

OT

The USMC prosecutors have appealed the decision to drop the charges against Lt. Col Chessani so they can continue with the court martial.

Won't link since the only article I can find is an AP one.

re: #144 cutestguy

Oh, but the Palis will scream to the heavens about their plight and the world will buy into the lies yet again.

AND - with the price of Crude Oil over $100/bbl - Let the SAUDIS SUBSIDIZE THEM. -S-

re: #139 lawhawk

And China has just reset its prices - hiking them anywhere from 18-25%. They're still subsidizing the prices, but now have set the prices much higher - probably higher than the Chinese people can afford.

But still below market:

China's new gasoline price is at about $3.29 a gallon

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

SKYDIVE for Israel

How about HALO jumping for Israel? Pledges would be per foot of freefall.

re: #155 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Here ya go.

re: #153 FamHistoryGuy

It may be valuable to look at the British experience inr egard to nationalised industries - after the war, coal, steel, railways were nationalised.
By the time Maggie re-privatised them, theyw ere run down, undercapitalised and run by the trade unions for the trade unions, and the disregard towards the customer, who not only paid the sales price for whatever amount of coal they needed, but also paid through taxes, was un-be-lie-vable!

re: #151 opnion

The very fact that Obama stiil believes that treating the first bombing of the World Trade Center as a pure legal issue was good policy, is disturbing.
Treating Terrorists as subjects of legal investigations is what prevented Clinton from taking bin Laden from the Sudan, "no legal authority."
It is also why we were not vigilant prior to 9/11. Guys taking flying lessons in the U.S , but not interested in landing?
Obama is a real dangerous choice for President.

Let's say, Obama is giving McCain a lot of good attack points!

re: #155 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

The USMC prosecutors have appealed the decision to drop the charges against Lt. Col Chessani so they can continue with the court martial.

Won't link since the only article I can find is an AP one.

DAMN!

re: #120 Sunlight

Do you get the feeling our government is ruling through polls, which time after time end up being hugely wrong when the real vote comes in... Can they nationalize things based on crooked polls? They can't win on a real vote, unless the opposition (GOP) congress people are running scared based on the crooked polls. I think that's why there seems to be such a disconnect going on. Crooked polls sponsored and reported on by the template-based press.

I think you're on to something there. The whole "weather vane" model of government is as shameful as it is ridiculous. I remember (inaccurately) a scene from the musical "1776" where the vote on independency is deadlocked and it is left to the new delegate from Georgia to decide the issue. He doesn't have direction from his legislature on how to vote and wants to abstain, but finally says that an elected official owes the people the benefit of his judgment and they should elect him because they know his values and trust his judgment. Then he votes to support the Declaration of Independence.

Just for once I wish life would imitate that little piece of art. That politicians on the campaign trail would stand up and say "this is what I believe in and what my values are and if you don't agree with me then don't vote for me". An then stand by those values during his/her time in office.

/Hey, I can dream can't I?

re: #136 rlevitin

Yeah. but that was expected. they did state that they would "fight" (read: launch cowardly rockets from civilian territory) until the last second.

Everything is expected from terrorists, and obviously this fake truce. It's very important to mention that after the agreement for a truce, and before it took place, they tried to squeeze out few more dead Jews by launching couple of dozens of rockets at Israel.

The real issue is that the left is telling the world to yawn, and the world says "how wide".

re: #157 itellu3times

Yes, and the subsidies have invited higher consumption than otherwise likely at prevailing rates. The Chinese face a house of cards ready to tumble with all the hits to their economy of late.

re: #161 itellu3times

Let's say, Obama is giving McCain a lot of good attack points!

That means McCain has to use them

Aint gonna happen

re: #125 FamHistoryGuy

If it costs $3.00 a gallon to refine and deliver a gallon of gas that congress sets a price of fifty cents on, who pays the other $2.50?

I'm not sure but I think I saw him in the mirror this morning :-)

I didn't know they had a team...

Kuwait Ice Hockey team set eyes on Arab Championship''s trophy

I wonder if they have an Arab version of the Hanson Brothers?

re: #136 rlevitin

Yeah. but that was expected. they did state that they would "fight" (read: launch cowardly rockets from civilian territory) until the last second.

The fact they tried to squeeze out few more dead Jews by launching rockets at them after the agreement for a truce, and right before it took place, should shake the whole world up.

The problem is, the left is telling the world to yawn, and the world says "how wide".

re: #165 lawhawk

Yes, and the subsidies have invited higher consumption than otherwise likely at prevailing rates. The Chinese face a house of cards ready to tumble with all the hits to their economy of late.

They are certainly "living in interesting times".

If the Dems get their way, will there be a black market for cheap Mexican gas?

Motorists dodge bullets for cheap Mexican fuel

Mexico's subsidized gasoline -- around $1.40 cheaper per gallon than in the United States -- is a huge draw as average U.S. pump prices hit an unprecedented $4 a gallon ($1.06 a liter). In West Coast cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, prices are over $4.50 a gallon.

re: #169 NJDhockeyfan

I didn't know they had a team...

Kuwait Ice Hockey team set eyes on Arab Championship''s trophy

I wonder if they have an Arab version of the Hanson Brothers?

Omigawd!
Its like the Irish were going in for desert camel racing - in Ireland ...

If Hamas is smart they will keep the truce & try to point to the good offices of Seator Obama as the reason.
It would help Obama with Jewish voters & contributors , if he looked like he could guarantee Israeli security.
Obama does not do as well with American Jews as a typical Democrat.
Hamas could actually help to get the symathetic Obama elected & then go right back to their psycho activities with a pal in the White House.

re: #154 Cygnus

Coke Nazis! 'No Coke! Pepsi!'

Chips?

re: #161 itellu3times

Let's say, Obama is giving McCain a lot of good attack points!

That is a nice thought.

re: #174 yma o hyd

Omigawd!
Its like the Irish were going in for desert camel racing - in Ireland ...

The British Columian relay camel racing team was ousted by the Yellowknife Kodiak bear wrestlers .

Koskid:

CHANGE your head dress

On Monday in Detroit at an Obama rally, two muslim women were asked to remove their head dress if they wanted to sit in prime seats. The Obama campaign apologized for this mistake and blamed it on a volunteer. I say it is unfortunate that the Obama campaign has to cower to the Republican hate machine. In order to really change D.C., we need diversity and it is critical that Barack embraces ALL creeds and cultures. I understand how things get twisted and skewed in this race, but if you are going to wear the Change badge on your shoulder, you must live it!

?

Starting yesterday I have been running a poll on it, So far it seems like not that many people believe in truce after all.
How long will last the truce between Israel and Hamas?
# 1 week (63%)
# less than 1 month (26%)
# I believe in miracles (11%)

Just as expected.

re: #162 Hard Right

I found a blog this AM, and the blog owner said she had spoken with Lt. Col Chessani's attorney, and that he had been informed that they were going to retry him... It was here.

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

Everyone should rent and watch the Peter Sellers/Terry-Thomas laff riot, "I'm All Right, Jack" which deals with the famous inefficiency of British unions in the 1950s. Sellers' communist union shop steward is priceless.

Sadly - this went on until Maggie, and laughing about it was all one could do ...

re: #160 yma o hyd

It may be valuable to look at the British experience inr egard to nationalised industries - after the war, coal, steel, railways were nationalised.
By the time Maggie re-privatised them, theyw ere run down, undercapitalised and run by the trade unions for the trade unions, and the disregard towards the customer, who not only paid the sales price for whatever amount of coal they needed, but also paid through taxes, was un-be-lie-vable!

Those who style themselves progressives need not study history because it has no effect on them.

And if you believe that I can get yo a good deal on the radioactive ruins of a bridge.

re: #179 Eowyn2

Aarrgghh - I knew we should have imported Kodiak bears and not these effing camels!

re: #182 Cap'n DOC

I found a blog this AM, and the blog owner said she had spoken with Lt. Col Chessani's attorney, and that he had been informed that they were going to retry him... It was here.

All I can say is @#$%!
Darn judge should have dismissed the charges WITH prejudice. It was clearly pushed by political hacks serving in the military.

re: #51 bulwrk

If you gave all of Israel to the palestinians they would turn it into a refugee camp and start launching rockets into Jordan.

First, Hamas and Fatah would fight it out.
A couple of hours later, when the remaining Fatah loyalists have been thrown off any roof they can find, then they'll start launching rockets into Jordan to unify the two Palestinian states, Jordan (the one formed in 1948) and the one they would have just formed.

re: #155 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

The USMC prosecutors have appealed the decision to drop the charges against Lt. Col Chessani so they can continue with the court martial.

Won't link since the only article I can find is an AP one.

Damn. Are they worried about Murtha blackballing them at the Marine Corps Ball in November?

re: #188 Eowyn2

Damn. Are they worried about Murtha blackballing them at the Marine Corps Ball in November?

Probably embarrased and angry they keep losing.

re: #186 Hard Right

All I can say is @#$%!
Darn judge should have dismissed the charges WITH prejudice. It was clearly pushed by political hacks serving in the military.

Persecution not prosecution.

Spy bill could shield phone firms from suits

U.S. telephone companies that cooperated with President George W. Bush's warrantless domestic spying program could be shielded from lawsuits under a electronic spy bill finalized on Thursday by congressional and White House negotiators.

/Moonbats and troofer heads are gonna be popping now

Stranded Pigs Shot To Save Iowa Levees

Luck ran out for about a dozen pigs who escaped their flooded farm, swam to safety through raging floodwaters and scrambled atop a sandbag levee in southeastern Iowa.

Des Moines County sheriff's officials shot the pigs Tuesday, not long after they completed their journey to the levee near Kingston, as much as 9 miles from a farm near Oakville.

Officials said they killed the pigs over worries that they would weaken the levee. Onlookers said the animals were having a difficult time trying to maneuver their way off of the sandbags, and that they scurried back into the water as people approached.

"Basically you cannot have something with a hoof walk on plastic and not poke a hole in the plastic and let water into it," said LeRoy Lippert, chairman of the emergency management commission. "Hogs, they have a tendency to root and that would not have been good either."

re: #180 NJDhockeyfan

Koskid:

CHANGE your head dress

?

well of course it is the Republican hate machine. That Magnificent Bastard Rove sent those women in as plants AND sent in the volunteer who told them to remove the scarfs.

But, um, why is obama going after the conservative vote?

The USMC had three days to file an appeal, and that's what they've done. No grounds for the appeal were included, so no idea why they think there are merits to reconsideration of the charges dropped.

re: #173 Bubblehead II

If the Dems get their way, will there be a black market for cheap Mexican gas?

Motorists dodge bullets for cheap Mexican fuel

Mexico's subsidized gasoline -- around $1.40 cheaper per gallon than in the United States -- is a huge draw as average U.S. pump prices hit an unprecedented $4 a gallon ($1.06 a liter). In West Coast cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, prices are over $4.50 a gallon.

Environmentalist cheer.

re: #184 The Other Les

Remarkable, isn't it, how subjects like history, oh, lets make that modern history, seems to have vanished down the memory hole, even for people who actually lived through some of these times.
I'm not even speaking of a hundred, or even fifty years ago - thirty years back is quite sufficient.

re: #189 Hard Right

Probably embarrased and angry they keep losing.

Marines do not like to lose.

Reuters?
Israel?
Hamas?
...
.....
........

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan

Stranded Pigs Shot To Save Iowa Levees

Here comes PETA. Now the flood will be the least of their worries.

re: #185 yma o hyd

riding kodiaks is really difficult.

Meanwhile, over in Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday the West has failed to break Iran's will in the nuclear standoff.

George Bush made the levees break just so he could kill the pigs. He is a pigist.

re: #202 mama winger

George Bush made the levees break just so he could kill the pigs. He is a pigist.

BIG SWINE IS RIPPING US OFF!

re: #201 experiencedtraveller

Meanwhile, over in Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday the West has failed to break Iran's will in the nuclear standoff.

Well he is right!

re: #202 mama winger

George Bush made the levees break just so he could kill the pigs. He is a pigist.

He learned how to do that in New Orleans
Cheney and Rove mentored him

re: #200 Eowyn2

riding kodiaks is really difficult.

Yeah - years of training needed, years!
Mind, at least they've got lots of fur to cling to, unlike camels.

If George Bush really cared about pigs, he would have ordered in the National Guard way sooner. But just because those pigs vote Democrat, he did not. KARL ROVE LOVES BBQ!

re: #194 lawhawk

The USMC had three days to file an appeal, and that's what they've done. No grounds for the appeal were included, so no idea why they think there are merits to reconsideration of the charges dropped.

How do these people sleep at night knowing that they are creating misery for people?

re: #202 mama winger

George Bush made the levees break just so he could kill the pigs. He is a pigist.

So this is the first pigist flood in recent history, just like Katrina was the first racist hurricane.

re: #199 DistantThunder

Here comes PETA. Now the flood will be the least of their worries.

"Basically you cannot have something with a hoof walk on plastic and not poke a hole in the plastic and let water into it," said LeRoy Lippert, chairman of the emergency management commission. "Hogs, they have a tendency to root and that would not have been good either."

He said the state veterinarian and other agencies were consulted, and the 10 to 16 animals euthanized was minimal.

"It happens every day. My gosh, that's what slaughterhouses do - that's how we get bacon and pork chops," Lippert said. "It's just one of the casualties of the flooding situation."

The carcasses were left at the site and treated essentially as road kill, he said.

"You don't get them out of the mud and over the dike when you're worried about people and peoples' property," Lippert said.

Lippert for Veep - enough common sense for a dozen gvmt officials

re: #202 mama winger

George Bush made the levees break just so he could kill the pigs. He is a pigist.

I knew it!
He didn't like 'Babe' ...

re: #211 Cygnus

So this is the first pigist flood in recent history, just like Katrina was the first racist hurricane.

Exactly. George Bush slaughters innocent animals just for grins.

Media: Iran president claims US assassination plot

TEHRAN,Iran - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today accused the United States of plotting to kidnap and assassinate him during a visit this year to Iraq, state media reported.

Paranoid.

re: #180 NJDhockeyfan

Koskid:

CHANGE your head dress

?

How in the hell is an Obama staffer denying a muslim garbed woman a primo seat, cowering to the "Republican hate machine"?

George Bush and the Islamicnuts have a lot in common huh ?

re: #216 Racer X

How in the hell is an Obama staffer denying a muslim garbed woman a primo seat, cowering to the "Republican hate machine"?

George Bush. He's everywhere.

For Hamas, suspending hostilities should spell some relief from an Israeli-led blockade and may help it gain legitimacy in the West and reconciliation with Abbas, who is in the midst of U.S.-sponsored peace negotiations with Olmert.

Oh well that's good.....NOT!

re: #210 DistantThunder

How do these people sleep at night knowing that they are creating misery for people?

valium, lots of it

re: #216 Racer X

How in the hell is an Obama staffer denying a muslim garbed woman a primo seat, cowering to the "Republican hate machine"?

Because they think it does that's why.

re: #214 mama winger,

Worse, he floods the entire mid-west so he can have an excuse for killing small farm animals. George McHalliburtonBushitler is evil like that!

re: #218 mama winger

George Bush. He's everywhere.

It would be really funny - except that these people vote. And teach. And hold government jobs.

re: #222 Iron Fist

,

Worse, he floods the entire mid-west so he can have an excuse for killing small farm animals. George McHalliburtonBushitler is evil like that!

Bwahahahahaha !

Reuters is blogging this hudna.

I have not time to wade in there, but I can imagine what i'd find.

re: #210 DistantThunder

How do these people sleep at night knowing that they are creating misery for people?

their careers are on the line.

re: #222 Iron Fist

,

Worse, he floods the entire mid-west so he can have an excuse for killing small farm animals. George McHalliburtonBushitler is evil like that!

I can see a South Park episode coming up
LOL

tahadiyeh

re: #185 yma o hyd

Aarrgghh - I knew we should have imported Kodiak bears and not these effing camels!

But now the Kodiak bears found they like camel and want you to import more.
Yum!

re: #227 LeftJustAintRight

Levees broken, floods? George Bush Hates White People!

~funny how there is no, media blitz, and claims of incompetence, and murder now....

re: #218 mama winger

George Bush. He's everywhere.

Just like Santa Claus. "He sees you when you're sleeping,..."

We have nothing to worry about.

the CIA is training FATAH in Jordan.

All is well.....All is well.

re: #216 Racer X

The only thing that makes sense to me is that he

a) means the apology was because of the Republican Hate Machine?

b) they were told not to sit behind Obama because the BO Campagin were "afraid" of the republican hate machine painting him to be a racist. (good old psychology; its called projection when you assign others behaviour that you exhibit on a regular basis)

re: #230 WrathofG-d

Levees broken, floods? George Bush Hates White People!

~funny how there is no, media blitz, and claims of incompetence, and murder now....

And no rioting?

re: #230 WrathofG-d

Levees broken, floods? George Bush Hates White People!

~funny how there is no, media blitz, and claims of incompetence, and murder now....

Because they hate white people too.

re: #232 Ben Hur

We have nothing to worry about.

the CIA is training FATAH in Jordan.

All is well.....All is well.

And don't forget to tap you little red shoes also!

re: #234 Nevergiveup

And no rioting?

Just don't call them "refugees."

re: #214 mama winger

Exactly. George Bush slaughters innocent animals just for grins.

He just wants some pork for the White House July 4th BBQ.

re: #230 WrathofG-d,

Cannibalism! People in the AstroDome are eating each other!

(it'd be funny if it wasn't so appalling)

re: #230 WrathofG-d

Levees broken, floods? George Bush Hates White People!

~funny how there is no, media blitz, and claims of incompetence, and murder now....

There won't be any media blitz for one simple reason. Those people are working side by side to minimize the damage from the flooding. It wouldn't be good to show ordinary people getting out, cooperating with each other and actually working to prevent the loss of their homes. Not good TV there.

re: #230 WrathofG-d

Levees broken, floods? George Bush Hates White People!

~funny how there is no, media blitz, and claims of incompetence, and murder now....

Wait till Hussein Obama gets the General Election ball rolling
I can see his campaign ads with all the flooding and lost homes
They are still running their campaigns against Bush

re: #233 rlevitin

The only thing that makes sense to me is that he

a) means the apology was because of the Republican Hate Machine?

b) they were told not to sit behind Obama because the BO Campagin were "afraid" of the republican hate machine painting him to be a racist. (good old psychology; its called projection when you assign others behaviour that you exhibit on a regular basis)

Doesn't make sense, but if I squint real hard I might be able to see their warped logic.

re: #229 Kosh's Shadow

But now the Kodiak bears found they like camel and want you to import more.
Yum!

And quite right, too: if one wants racing Kodiak bears, they've gotta be fed properly, on racing camels.
No problem (unless you're a PETAist ...)!

re: #230 WrathofG-d

Levees broken, floods? George Bush Hates White People!

~funny how there is no, media blitz, and claims of incompetence, and murder now....

Where are the pictures of stranded people on rooftops pleading for government aid?

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

Media: Iran president claims US assassination plot

Paranoid.

We SHOULD have one. Or at least the Mossad should.
Actually, instead of killing him, they should drug him so they can get embarrassing photos of him in bed with pigs and monkeys.
Or have him plotting with "elders of Zion" about how he's threatening Israel just so Israel can justify its nuclear program and attack Iran.
Then let the mullahs deal with him.

re: #244 Racer X

Where are the pictures of stranded people on rooftops pleading for government aid?

And all the pictures of empty busses ?

Rathergate Redux: Another Fake Document Scam

Ten days ago, someone contacted WikiLeaks with a blockbuster document. Supposedly originating from the White House Press Office, the document appeared to be a rough draft of a speech announcing a US invasion of Iran. Here’s a glimpse of the intro (click on the image for the whole doc in pdf):

Credit to the “analyzers” at WikiLeaks for quickly determining this letter was a complete fraud:

Fabricated US Presidential Iran invasion contingency speech from the the office of the White House Press Secretary. Undated, unnamed, unsigned and un-numbered. A metadata analysis shows the document to have been scanned on June 6, 2008.

The page appears to have had a header, which has been removed. The font is at a low, possibly FAX resolution.

The document is clearly based on the 2003 Iraq invasion speech which we present here for comparison:

re: #245 Kosh's Shadow

Sigh.
Thats what the good old KGB used to do to perfection ...

re: #246 LeftJustAintRight

And all the pictures of empty busses ?

I wanna see a picture of Spicoli in a boat taking pictures of the carnage.

Will all the mid westerners get FEMA visas to go to strip clubs with and to shop with at Macys ?

re: #242 Racer X

Doesn't make sense, but if I squint real hard I might be able to see their warped logic.

I meant in my "b" possibility that they were afraid of BHO being seen with overtly muslim women, because he would be associated with islam again.

I did not mean that he would be painted as a racist...

*NEEDS MORE SLEEP*

Looks like the Democrats folded, and we've got ourselves a deal on the surveillance bill, including telecom protections.

re: #249 Racer X

I wanna see a picture of Spicoli in a boat taking pictures of the carnage.

He knows better
Those gun toting bible thumping people dont take kindly to being made into Martyrs

re: #249 Racer X

I wanna see a picture of Spicoli in a boat taking pictures of the carnage.

Memories...

re: #251 rlevitin

I get where you were going with it. It just seems to me the Obama campaign is hypocritical.

re: #252 lawhawk

Looks like the Democrats folded, and we've got ourselves a deal on the surveillance bill, including telecom protections.

Does this mean things stand as is?

re: #252 lawhawk

Looks like the Democrats folded, and we've got ourselves a deal on the surveillance bill, including telecom protections.

It's about time!

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

That still makes me laugh out loud!

re: #252 lawhawk

Looks like the Democrats folded, and we've got ourselves a deal on the surveillance bill, including telecom protections.

Heads are exploding at Kos.

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

Media: Iran president claims US assassination plot

Paranoid.

Oh that would be the dems. Aren't they the ones who always say, "We must do pinpoint operations, special ops, etc. instead of going to war."

re: #255 buzzsawmonkey

There's no pic of a pig farm corresponding to the Ray Nagin Motor Pool?

No - but this is cute. :)

re: #250 LeftJustAintRight

Will all the mid westerners get FEMA visas to go to strip clubs with and to shop with at Macys ?

No self-respecting Midwesterner would accept it or shop at Macy's.

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

Heads are exploding at Kos.

GREAT ! I love when that happens !

Champagne for everyone!

I wanna see this guy at the levees.

Looking at Fox - [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The White House and congressional negotiators on Thursday struck a deal on an overhaul of the nation's terror surveillance laws in a proposal that likely would protect telecommunications companies from dozens of lawsuits.

The House will debate the bill on Friday, potentially ending a months-long standoff about the rules for government wiretapping inside the United States. Both the House and Senate are expected to pass the bill.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland said the new bill "balances the needs of our intelligence community with Americans' civil liberties, and provides critical new oversight and accountability requirements."

The biggest sticking point has been the White House's push for retroactive legal immunity for telecommunications companies that assisted the government's terror surveillance program following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

In a key compromise, Republicans and the White House agreed to allow the legal certifications given to the phone companies to be reviewed by federal courts. The Bush administration gave the legal certifications to the telecoms to assure what they were being asked to do was legal.

About 40 lawsuits have been filed against telecommunications companies from people who believe they were the targets of illegal surveillance. The new bill would let a federal district court determine if the telecoms received lawful orders from the government asking them to place wiretaps. If so, the lawsuits would be dismissed.

re: #262 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, it appears that the pigs of the Midwest exhibited more sauve qui peut than the citizens of New Orleans--and without FEMA intervention--but it is probably not polite to notice this.

Sorry
Never again