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Not Even Reuters Can Lie About This

Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:01:01 am PDT

Not even Reuters can swallow this one: Israel-Hamas truce begins but duration in doubt.

I give this three days at the outside. But it will probably be a matter of hours.

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1 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:01:51 am reply quote 0

Shocked they are being honest for once.

2 Cap'n DOC  6/19/08 10:01:53 am reply quote 1

Ooooh. Roto-Reuters. Easier flushing.

3 Iron Fist  6/19/08 10:02:06 am reply quote 0

Hamas is reloading.

4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/19/08 10:02:35 am reply quote 13

My prediction, Islamic Jihad or some other group will fire rockets, Israel will respond, Hamas will claim that Israel broke the cease fire.

5 bosforus  6/19/08 10:03:15 am reply quote 0
GAZA (Reuters) - Israel and Hamas halted fighting in the Gaza Strip on Thursday but, with wider peace prospects hazy, both sides voiced doubt over how long the Egyptian- brokered ceasefire might hold.

Hamas: I've just got this really itchy trigger finger and the withdrawals are starting to kick in. I'm not sure how long I can keep this up.

6 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:03:19 am reply quote 0

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My prediction, Islamic Jihad or some other group will fire rockets, Israel will respond, Hamas will claim that Israel broke the cease fire.

SOP for the Palis.

7 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:03:32 am reply quote 6

As part of the truce agreements, Hamas is suppose to cease and desist from smuggling weapons into Gaza? Boy that's a knee slapper!

8 JammieWearingFool  6/19/08 10:03:40 am reply quote 0

I pessimistically gave it two hours. Honestly, I'm surprised it's gone this long.

9 Ward Cleaver  6/19/08 10:03:59 am reply quote 0
Israel-Hamas truce begins but duration in doubt

The understatement of the millennium.

10 JammieWearingFool  6/19/08 10:04:35 am reply quote 0

Then again, these truces usually are just a means of regrouping and time for bomb manufacture by the Palis.

11 Gus Bailey  6/19/08 10:04:39 am reply quote 8

Heck, I'm just gonna hum the theme from Jeopardy.

12 Ward Cleaver  6/19/08 10:04:51 am reply quote 0

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

I pessimistically gave it two hours. Honestly, I'm surprised it's gone this long.

They're working out the elevation and azimuth on the Kassam launchers. Give 'em a minute.

13 Cicero05  6/19/08 10:05:35 am reply quote 0

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

14 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:06:49 am reply quote 3

re: #13 Cicero05

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

Syphilis?

15 buzzsawmonkey  6/19/08 10:06:50 am reply quote 0

"Why must the test of everything be its durability?"

--Tea and Sympathy

16 Racer X  6/19/08 10:07:03 am reply quote 0

[deleted]

17 experiencedtraveller  6/19/08 10:07:13 am reply quote 0

A truce with extremist splinter groups within extremist HAMAS within extremist Islam.

What could possibly go wrong?

18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/19/08 10:07:19 am reply quote 0

re: #13 Cicero05

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

I believe his response was a rasberry while giving the finger.

19 shibumi  6/19/08 10:08:03 am reply quote 0

If it's days, it's only because there's been a sizable "work accident."

20 Kosh's Shadow  6/19/08 10:08:15 am reply quote 0

200 quatloos the cease fire doesn't last a day

21 Ward Cleaver  6/19/08 10:08:18 am reply quote 0

re: #14 Hard Right

Syphilis?

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

22 MJ  6/19/08 10:08:21 am reply quote 2

The Reuter's headline has already been written:

Israel Violates Truce

23 right_on_target  6/19/08 10:08:27 am reply quote 0

Hamas - Israel truce time period is measured with an egg timer. When the sand stops pouring ..........

24 Racer X  6/19/08 10:08:50 am reply quote 0

re: #22 MJ

The Reuter's headline has already been written:

Israel Violates Truce

Sad, but true.

25 lawhawk  6/19/08 10:09:32 am reply quote 7

If this truce holds (and I seriously doubt it given the Hamas shakes, rattles, and rolls), it puts to bed the lie that Hamas could not clamp down on rogue elements and stop the bombardment of Israel. It simply wasn't in their interests to do so before, and that it is now is telling.

It tells me that Hamas was hurt badly, and needed a breather. Israel is giving it to them instead of putting the hurt on Hamas thugs. This is a big mistake, and the Israelis will compound it by negotiating on the Golan return.

Israel will regret this truce, because it means that Hamas and the other terrorists will have used their time away from work to regroup and rearm for the next phase of their war with Israel.

The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?

26 Kosh's Shadow  6/19/08 10:09:56 am reply quote 0

re: #19 shibumi

If it's days, it's only because there's been a sizable "work accident."

There was one, recently, wasn't there?
Explains the cease-fire; the accident took out most of their explosive stockpile and they need to import more. Don't want to import explosives while their are shots being fired in the area.

27 'Nam Grunt  6/19/08 10:10:06 am reply quote 0

If the messiah gets the job it's going to be fun to watch him come apart at the seams, hopefully a large block of Americans won't be killed while he's getting OJT as CiC! He's not ready now and never will be.

28 mean Gene  6/19/08 10:10:07 am reply quote 0

I gotta credit Al Gore.
"There is no controlling legal authority,'' in Islam.
Who can the representatives of hamas speak for?
Only themselves.

29 LeftJustAintRight  6/19/08 10:10:27 am reply quote 0

re: #22 MJ

The Reuter's headline has already been written:

Israel Violates Truce


Bush is to blame

30 Little Boomer  6/19/08 10:10:28 am reply quote 0

I hosey 18 hours. Starting.......now.

31 shibumi  6/19/08 10:11:03 am reply quote 0

re: #13 Cicero05

Does Olmert even have an explanation for this?

He's got apple-pie in the sky hopes that this time it will work out? (C'mon, you all know the song, hum along with Ehud!)

Or...he figures that if he tries the same tactic (appeasement) over and over and over again, it's bound to eventually work. Pooh told him so!

32 MJ  6/19/08 10:11:42 am reply quote 0

re: #25 lawhawk

If this truce holds (and I seriously doubt it given the Hamas shakes, rattles, and rolls), it puts to bed the lie that Hamas could not clamp down on rogue elements and stop the bombardment of Israel. It simply wasn't in their interests to do so before, and that it is now is telling.

It tells me that Hamas was hurt badly, and needed a breather. Israel is giving it to them instead of putting the hurt on Hamas thugs. This is a big mistake, and the Israelis will compound it by negotiating on the Golan return.

Israel will regret this truce, because it means that Hamas and the other terrorists will have used their time away from work to regroup and rearm for the next phase of their war with Israel.

The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?


What is write is true. However, what is important, indeed, the only important factor is that Olmert remain in power.

33 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:12:07 am reply quote 0

Love you,Charles but three days? Would you be interested in some oceanfront property in Nevada?

34 MJ  6/19/08 10:12:45 am reply quote 0

re: #32 MJ

What is write is true. However, what is important, indeed, the only important factor is that Olmert remain in power.

Sorry:

What you wrote is true....

35 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:12:46 am reply quote 0

re: #25 lawhawk

Your a real pessimist. Just look how well that cease fire with Lebanon and Hizballah has worked out. They have only double or tripled their supplies? And the UN has done such a superb job also. And Syria has been so helpful, aside from that little nuke thing.

36 lawhawk  6/19/08 10:13:04 am reply quote 0

Olmert is offering up major concessions, which I think relate to his disengagement from reality. He thinks that Hamas could be a negotiating partner. Never mind that Hamas doesn't recognize Israel other than from Google Maps to plot attack coordinates. Hamas and Fatah are rolling Israel, and Olmert is falling for it completely. He's negotiating into a position of weakness, when there was no such need.

37 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:13:15 am reply quote 0

re: #29 LeftJustAintRight

Bush is to blame


Excuse me, but it will be the Zionist lobby(or the Zionist ballroom- we have expanded beyond the lobby)

38 rlevitin  6/19/08 10:13:24 am reply quote 0

re: #10 JammieWearingFool

Then again, these truces usually are just a means of regrouping and time for bomb manufacture by the Palis.

Hmm, another possible truce-breaker is that there is a pali "work-accident" that gets blamed on Israel.

I standby my earlier stance. I think Hamas will wait until Israel eases border restrictions (scheduled after 3 days of "calm"), and once Israel gets lax, they will do something major.

39 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:13:36 am reply quote 0

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

Heh.
Even if Olmert doesn't have it, I would still believe his brain looks like swiss cheese.

40 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:14:58 am reply quote 3

What will come first, a suiside bomber in Tel Aviv or new revelation about an Obama supporter being too fringe for the campaign?

41 cozmos  6/19/08 10:15:02 am reply quote 0

LOL, this truce will end up like all the other ones. Hamas sits around for a couple of days, bored and with no work to do. Then, they get back to business as usual, bombing innocent people, and with irony, they say that the Israeli's broke the truce. Seriously, I really want what they are smoking or at least, the 'I am holier than thou' juice. And to make matters worse, the MSM and the UN will buy into it and cater to them.... Again...


Coz out

42 shibumi  6/19/08 10:15:11 am reply quote 0

re: #26 Kosh's Shadow

There was one, recently, wasn't there?
Explains the cease-fire; the accident took out most of their explosive stockpile and they need to import more. Don't want to import explosives while their are shots being fired in the area.

Isn't that the whole "hunda" theory? Make a truce in bad spirit while giving yourself time to stockpile and regroup?

43 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:15:15 am reply quote 1

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

OOH, another old timer here. Baseball been berry berry good to him

44 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:15:34 am reply quote 0

re: #40 DeafDog

What will come first, a suiside bomber in Tel Aviv or new revelation about an Obama supporter being too fringe for the campaign?

My money is on an Obama supporter going under the big bus.

45 bcgirl  6/19/08 10:15:43 am reply quote 0

no they did no lie per sey,
but i could not get past the 3hird paragraph,, of course Just befor the truce began, Iarael did this, and that in the day s before the poor palis with "improvixed" mortars had sent "dozes causing no harm" but Israel had wounded some palis,, just can't take the continued LIE that Israel is the agressor, untill this view is changed, which will never happen, it will be more more more LIES LIES LIES

46 Gus Bailey  6/19/08 10:15:45 am reply quote 0

re: #15 buzzsawmonkey

"Why must the test of everything be its durability?"

--Tea and Sympathy

Sorry Buzzsaw, but Wha?

/ducks as reference zooms over his head

47 see bs  6/19/08 10:15:49 am reply quote 0

Doesn't the 'book of the moon god' say something about calling a truce to re-arm and defeat your foe once and for all?

Sigh.. there should be no truce with these war mongering death cult ham-assholes.

48 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:16:24 am reply quote 0

re: #40 DeafDog
I seriously hope the too fringe supporter- perhaps a failed suicide bomber himself?

49 Gus Bailey  6/19/08 10:16:40 am reply quote 0

re: #40 DeafDog


Even money.

50 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:16:50 am reply quote 0

re: #43 madisonsfriend

OOH, another old timer here. Baseball been berry berry good to him

Boxing has been good to me Howard.

51 bulwrk  6/19/08 10:17:07 am reply quote 8

If you gave all of Israel to the palestinians they would turn it into a refugee camp and start launching rockets into Jordan.

52 yma o hyd  6/19/08 10:17:09 am reply quote 0

re: #25 lawhawk

The answer is - yes, thats exactly what we'll see.

That is what 'hudna' means.

53 MJ  6/19/08 10:17:19 am reply quote 0

re: #38 rlevitin

Hmm, another possible truce-breaker is that there is a pali "work-accident" that gets blamed on Israel.

I standby my earlier stance. I think Hamas will wait until Israel eases border restrictions (scheduled after 3 days of "calm"), and once Israel gets lax, they will do something major.


It will be some "unknown" group or Islamic Jihad that "breaks" this farce...ooops, truce. The media will of course buy it just as the buy the fact that the Al Aqsa Birgade isn't related to Fatah.

54 Ward Cleaver  6/19/08 10:17:23 am reply quote 1

re: #43 madisonsfriend

OOH, another old timer here. Baseball been berry berry good to him

"I am Idi Ami Da-da!"

55 'Nam Grunt  6/19/08 10:17:59 am reply quote 0

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

You eat people?

56 realwest  6/19/08 10:18:05 am reply quote 0

Three days? I fear you are unduly optimistic Charles. I give it maybe 48 hours. And that's being generous in my mind.

57 Iron Fist  6/19/08 10:18:19 am reply quote 1

re: #40 DeafDog,

That is not the suicide bomber I have known?

58 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:18:31 am reply quote 0

re: #44 Nevergiveup

My money is on an Obama supporter going under the big bus.

That is the correct answer, but only because it is approaching evening in Tel Aviv.

59 CIA Reject  6/19/08 10:18:39 am reply quote 2

re: #29 LeftJustAintRight

Bush is to blame

Women, Children and Minorities Hardest Hit

60 LeftJustAintRight  6/19/08 10:19:49 am reply quote 0

If the damn Jews would commit mass national suicide we would not be having this conversation

/you know

61 rlevitin  6/19/08 10:19:52 am reply quote 0

re: #56 realwest

Three days? I fear you are unduly optimistic Charles. I give it maybe 48 hours. And that's being generous in my mind.

still significantly up from the 6 hours a few days ago.

62 lawhawk  6/19/08 10:20:01 am reply quote 0

Come to think of it, I suspect that this truce may last until Hamas gets its prisoners released, but before Gilad Shalit is released. Since Hamas will have gotten what it wants, it will conclude that it has no need for continuing the truce, and therefore restart its war, refreshed with those released prisoners who will make a great photo op to go on the wall at Hamas HQ.

63 'Nam Grunt  6/19/08 10:20:22 am reply quote 0

I'm still a W fan and I think his popularity will get a bump as he holds the moonbats feet to the fire about drilling for more "awl"!

64 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:20:27 am reply quote 0

re: #58 DeafDog

That is the correct answer, but only because it is approaching evening in Tel Aviv.

Coumous, babgonous, and Maccabi Beers all around on me!

65 rlevitin  6/19/08 10:20:29 am reply quote 1

re: #60 LeftJustAintRight

If the damn Jews would commit mass national suicide we would not be having this conversation

/you know

As Stalin liked to say. "Death solves all problems. No man, No Problem!"

66 bosforus  6/19/08 10:20:44 am reply quote 0
Not Even Reuters Can Lie About This

Because they wouldn't pay AP to quote them.

67 CIA Reject  6/19/08 10:20:49 am reply quote 0

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

His brain looks like Swiss cheese?

/thinking of old snl skit with garrett morris as idi amin

"I am Idi Amin Dadda - that's spelled with three Ds, two As, and one gun..."

/GAWD those folks were funny!

68 rlevitin  6/19/08 10:21:05 am reply quote 0

re: #65 rlevitin

As Stalin liked to say. "Death solves all problems. No man, No Problem!"

there should be a sarc tag there...

*insert*
/

69 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:21:09 am reply quote 0

re: #60 LeftJustAintRight

If the damn Jews would commit mass national suicide we would not be having this conversation

/you know

Yes we would, but just with different enemies.

70 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:21:53 am reply quote 0

re: #63 'Nam Grunt

I'm still a W fan and I think his popularity will get a bump as he holds the moonbats feet to the fire about drilling for more "awl"!

Only if he gets the support of every Republican in Congress. Hooo...ha. I can't stop laughing-sorry.

71 Fritz_Katz  6/19/08 10:22:01 am reply quote 0

I wonder how long Reuters will allow bloggers such as Little Green Footballs to link to their "News" (note the quotes).

AP's already done it -- I'm betting Reuter's is next.

Especially 'cause we treat Reuters the respect they deserve on this blog.

72 Eowyn2  6/19/08 10:22:14 am reply quote 0

re: #62 lawhawk

Come to think of it, I suspect that this truce may last until Hamas gets its prisoners released, but before Gilad Shalit is released. Since Hamas will have gotten what it wants, it will conclude that it has no need for continuing the truce, and therefore restart its war, refreshed with those released prisoners who will make a great photo op to go on the wall at Hamas HQ.

And with bigger payloads.

73 LeftJustAintRight  6/19/08 10:22:16 am reply quote 0

re: #69 DeafDog

Yes we would, but just with different enemies.

It would be the U.S.

74 WrathofG-d  6/19/08 10:22:19 am reply quote 1

re: #7 Nevergiveup

I am sure I am just preaching to the converted here, but you'd think that Israel would have learned its lesson by now.

It isn't as if this is the first time they have had a Hudna with Hamas, and they always end up the same way. (with more weapons in Hamas' hands and a stronger Hamas).

Besides the aforementioned, it makes no sense to deal with Hamas at all as the entire policy of Israel since 2005 was to bolster the PLO to weaken Hamas and eliminate it. So, if Israel is going to deal with Hamas now, they will in essence be bolstering both Terrrorists groups. Where is the advantage of that?

Is it the brilliant Israeli plan to strengthen the PLO ("so they can fight Hamas") then strengthen Hamas, then allow them both to merge? Wom do the geniuses in Israel think the Terrorist groups are going to fight then? Oh that's right all we need to do to answer that question is ask them, as they have never said they would accept anything less than all Gaza, all Judea/Samaria, all Jerusalem, and a contiguous state.

Olmert and those who surround him (the traitor of Al-Kadima) should [self deleted]

75 coquimbojoe  6/19/08 10:22:45 am reply quote 1

re: #10 JammieWearingFool

Then again, these truces usually are just a means of regrouping and time for bomb manufacture by the Palis.

Would you like some guacamole on your taqqiya?

76 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:23:00 am reply quote 0

re: #64 Nevergiveup

Coumous, babgonous, and Maccabi Beers all around on me!


I want falafel from Ben Yehuda street- the stand near Danny's souvenir store.

77 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:23:26 am reply quote 0

re: #62 lawhawk

Come to think of it, I suspect that this truce may last until Hamas gets its prisoners released, but before Gilad Shalit is released. Since Hamas will have gotten what it wants, it will conclude that it has no need for continuing the truce, and therefore restart its war, refreshed with those released prisoners who will make a great photo op to go on the wall at Hamas HQ.

Think they have a bomb-builder-of-the-month?

78 songbird  6/19/08 10:24:01 am reply quote 1

re: #75 coquimbojoe

Would you like some guacamole on your taqqiya?

And all this time I thought taqqiya was a stiff drink!

79 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:24:20 am reply quote 0

re: #67 CIA Reject

"I am Idi Amin Dadda - that's spelled with three Ds, two As, and one gun..."

/GAWD those folks were funny!

So do you guys remember the Snakehandlers O'Shea- it was in the first few years of SNL- Belushi was definitely part of it.

80 calvin coolidge  6/19/08 10:24:42 am reply quote 2

From the Hamas Times headlines:
More rocket launchers laid off work today. Unemployed workers hopeful that business will pick up soon and they can return to work.
One laid off worker, Abdul, fears the worst. "I have no other skills", he reports, "who else is going to hire me at my age? Launching rockets is all I know".

81 Fat Jolly Penguin  6/19/08 10:24:48 am reply quote 0

re: #77 Hard Right

Think they have a bomb-builder-of-the-month?

Martyr of the month?

82 Hard Right  6/19/08 10:26:04 am reply quote 0

re: #81 Fat Jolly Penguin

Martyr of the month?

That one is partly true. The schools have pics of martyrs lining the walls.

83 buzzsawmonkey  6/19/08 10:26:05 am reply quote 0

re: #46 Gus Bailey

I was just making an oblique comment about the truce. Basically, the purpose of a "truce" is for it to last--which of course this one won't. It is a complete waste of time.

The quote--"Why must the test of everything be its durability?"--was intended as a snark on the idea that a "truce" is a good in and of itself, even though it surely will not last.

84 Eowyn2  6/19/08 10:26:10 am reply quote 0

re: #75 coquimbojoe

Would you like some guacamole on your taqqiya?

sour cream and salsa as well.

85 buzzsawmonkey  6/19/08 10:26:51 am reply quote 0

re: #25 lawhawk

If this truce holds (and I seriously doubt it given the Hamas shakes, rattles, and rolls), it puts to bed the lie that Hamas could not clamp down on rogue elements and stop the bombardment of Israel. It simply wasn't in their interests to do so before, and that it is now is telling.

It tells me that Hamas was hurt badly, and needed a breather. Israel is giving it to them instead of putting the hurt on Hamas thugs. This is a big mistake, and the Israelis will compound it by negotiating on the Golan return.

Israel will regret this truce, because it means that Hamas and the other terrorists will have used their time away from work to regroup and rearm for the next phase of their war with Israel.

The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?

The truce truth will out.

87 kirche  6/19/08 10:28:46 am reply quote 0

chuck,

maybe you could post one of your surveys on predicting when the truce is broken... i almost suggested your survey also predict whom the offending party would be.

88 CIA Reject  6/19/08 10:29:27 am reply quote 1

re: #79 madisonsfriend

So do you guys remember the Snakehandlers O'Shea- it was in the first few years of SNL- Belushi was definitely part of it.

Yes, but not as well as I remember the Olympia Cafe sketches (Cheeburger! Cheeburger!)

Or Samurai *Fill In the Blank*

/Good Times...

89 Killgore Trout  6/19/08 10:29:37 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

It worked out great for Chavez so far.

90 buzzsawmonkey  6/19/08 10:29:45 am reply quote 2

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Cast your oil upon the Waters, that it may diminish after few days.

--Ecclesiastes' work notes

91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/19/08 10:30:01 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT:

92 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:30:04 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT:

93 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:30:06 am reply quote 0

re: #89 Killgore Trout

It worked out great for Chavez so far.

I see a campaign commercial.

94 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:31:12 am reply quote 0

errr...i meant fixing the 'price' - I got too excited with my pending windfall.

95 Pyrocles  6/19/08 10:31:35 am reply quote 0

If Israel doesn't agree with the hudna, that will just reinforce the global view of Israel as the "oppressor" of the powerless Palestinians. I'm sure most Israelies think of this hudna as a farce, but the UN would severly castigate Israel if it did not accept it.

But wait, the UN already considers israel as the bad guy...

re: #74 WrathofG-d

96 CIA Reject  6/19/08 10:31:51 am reply quote 2

re: #77 Hard Right

Think they have a bomb-builder-of-the-month?

ACK! Now I have a new Hamas TV kid's show in my head:

"Bomb-the-Builder"

Somebody pass the brain bleach, PLEASE!

97 Sunlight  6/19/08 10:32:09 am reply quote 0

re: #25 lawhawk

...
The last time there was a truce, we were welcomed with new longer range kassam rockets. What will we see this time? Even longer range kassams and grad missiles in operation? Grads that are able to hit beyond Ashkelon? Kassams that are able to carry heavier payloads?

I keep thinking that one of these times, it will be a headline and story describing a bunch of random jihadis, their human shields, and random people around being killed or injured by debris falling back onto them. Israel will have knocked down the rocket on its way up... Get it done, Israel!

98 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:32:09 am reply quote 0

re: #88 CIA Reject

Yes, but not as well as I remember the

99 NJDhockeyfan  6/19/08 10:32:30 am reply quote 1
100 experiencedtraveller  6/19/08 10:32:45 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT:

101 Bubblehead II  6/19/08 10:33:38 am reply quote 0

EXCLUSIVE: Hezbollah Poised to Strike?
Officials Say "Sleeper Cells" Activated in Canada

Intelligence agencies in the United States and Canada are warning of mounting signs that Hezbollah, backed by Iran, is poised to mount a terror attack against "Jewish targets" somewhere outside the Middle East.

102 Nevergiveup  6/19/08 10:33:39 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Because the Post Office is so efficient?

103 madisonsfriend  6/19/08 10:34:02 am reply quote 0

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

104 Sunlight  6/19/08 10:34:14 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

As I said on another thread, since they won't be able to get control through normal legal means (eg., referendum, legislative processes, etc.), they'll co-opt some lawsuit that is in the works and have the unelected, unaccountable judiciary do the job.

/absolutely not kidding

105 CIA Reject  6/19/08 10:34:14 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Your gasoline and home heating oil supply - from the people who brought you AMTRAK and the Susan B. Anthony dollar. Yeah, that'll work...

106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/19/08 10:34:23 am reply quote 5

re: #81 Fat Jolly Penguin

Martyr of the month?

"Hi, my name is Mohammed. My favorite color is green. I have a BA in metal shop from Gaza U. I enjoy rocketry and spelunking. I hope one day to have my own harem of 72 virgins"

107 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:34:57 am reply quote 1

re: #100 experiencedtraveller

Oh! I wish they would. Upper East Side limousine liberals will be eating each other in six weeks...

Not so fast. Party member will get special ration cards. Gun toters who cling to their religion may be SOL.

108 The Other Les  6/19/08 10:35:14 am reply quote 0

You cannot negotiate with someone who denies your right to live.

You also cannot accept moral fault for the evil acts of others.

109 songbird  6/19/08 10:35:36 am reply quote 0

re: #108 The Other Les

You cannot negotiate with someone who denies your right to live.

You also cannot accept moral fault for the evil acts of others.

Amen.

110 realwest  6/19/08 10:36:04 am reply quote 0

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan
Um, gee I'd really like to jump out of an otherwise perfectly good airplane, but I'm kinda busy that day.
Will send donation instead!

111 Iron Fist  6/19/08 10:36:09 am reply quote 0

re: #107 DeafDog,

But they have guns...

112 Alouette  6/19/08 10:37:31 am reply quote 0

WTF just happened?

I had LGF open in IE when the browser stopped responding and I had to kill the process. Then COULD NOT LOAD LGF. I emptied the cache, restarted the router, then opened LGF in Firefox, but response time is still slow.

113 opnion  6/19/08 10:37:37 am reply quote 0

If Michelle's "Sweet & pathetic" husband was in office, this truce would hold.
Lightworkers heal planets.

114 DeafDog  6/19/08 10:37:43 am reply quote 0

re: #111 Iron Fist

True, but they also have a conscience.

Just submit to the party and you will get a special ration card, too. Obama is the messiah.

115 CIA Reject  6/19/08 10:38:03 am reply quote 0

re: #98 madisonsfriend

I do, of course, remember those. How could Belushi have destroyed himself?

Yes, it is quite sad- so much talent lost. To think what he could have done. Still we have the memories so when things get tough for us we can always ask: "WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?" and laugh...

116 NJDhockeyfan  6/19/08 10:38:27 am reply quote 0

US accuses Venezuelan diplomat of working for Hizbullah


The US froze the assets of two Venezuelan citizens, including a diplomat from the South American country, on suspicion that the two had ties to Hizbullah, Reuters reported on Wednesday night.

Washington accused the two men, Fauzi Kanan and Ghazi Nasr al Din, of raising funds for Hizbullah's headquarters in Lebanon.

Washington also forbade US citizens from forging business ties with the two.

Al-Din had been employed of late as charge d'affaires at the Venezuelan embassy in Damascus and is currently working as political affairs director of Venezuela's embassy in Lebanon.

117 rlevitin  6/19/08 10:38:39 am reply quote 0

re: #95 Pyrocles

If Israel doesn't agree with the hudna, that will just reinforce the global view of Israel as the "oppressor" of the powerless Palestinians. I'm sure most Israelies think of this hudna as a farce, but the UN would severly castigate Israel if it did not accept it.

But wait, the UN already considers israel as the bad guy...

Israel will be blamed for the end of the truce regardless...

118 realwest  6/19/08 10:38:57 am reply quote 0

re: #104 Sunlight Nah, even if the Dems tried to do it that way, just think how much of our tax dollars it would take to satisfy the undeniable position of the US Constitution which specifies that no one can be deprived of their property without just compensation.
Man, the lawsuits on what would constitue "just compensation" would take forever!

119 lawhawk  6/19/08 10:39:22 am reply quote 0

re: #86 coquimbojoe

Super OT: Dems call for nationalizing our oil refining...

Saw that yesterday, and said then what I'll say again. It will not create a single watt of new power or another ounce of gasoline. It will increase the costs for fuel and other energy, not reduce them.

Such is the state of economics 101 among the Democrats that they're even floating the idea (and not for the first time either - Hinchey only tread on ground previously mentioned by Waters).

120 Sunlight  6/19/08 10:39:30 am reply quote 1

re: #105 CIA Reject

Your gasoline and home heating oil supply - from the people who brought you AMTRAK and the Susan B. Anthony dollar. Yeah, that'll work...

Do you get the feeling our government is ruling through polls, which time after time end up being hugely wrong when the real vote comes in... Can they nationalize things based on crooked polls? They can't win on a real vote, unless the opposition (GOP) congress people are running scared based on the crooked polls. I think that's why there seems to be such a disconnect going on. Crooked polls sponsored and reported on by the template-based press.

121 JohnnyReb  6/19/08 10:39:35 am reply quote 0

I suspect the rockets are all primed and ready to go for the next "incident".

I give it two days max.

122 Cygnus  6/19/08 10:39:39 am reply quote 0

re: #20 Kosh's Shad