Lotsa' people wondered why I despised that man in the 1990s.

Patty and Ailes go way,way back...

He's mad.

Where is the Antidote for this poison?

I was sitting in my office on the computer with Fox News blaring in the background, as is standard in the Mumaw home, and I thought I heard Pat...in fact, I think I hear him again!

Wish we could mix thread headline and be able to say, Buchanan on Mars.

OT? BTW anyone see Apocalypto? I got the Blu-Ray from Netflix today and watched it. I thought it was impressive.

Buchanan did one good thing: he did keep The Goracle from winning Florida.

Otherwise, his expiration date is way past.

Charles! Make him stop! :)

Maybe the other usual guest commentators in the line-up are on vacation. He is not even entertaining.

"Disgusted" doesn't even begin to describe it.

If Fox News is trying to sabotage the GOP, this is a terrific way to do it.

re: #10 snowcrash

Maybe the other usual guest commentators in the line-up are on vacation. He is not even entertaining.

Margaret Hoover was on tonight...she is super lovely!

re: #3 Ojoe

He's mad.

Barking mad.

re: #11 Charles

Exactly. There is a reason why MSNBC has been using him as the voice of conservatism in their "coverage" of events for years. It isn't a good one, so far as conservatism is concerned.

One of the Saudi princes has an influential stake (more than 12% ownership) in Fox News.

I expect that an anti-Jewish commentator will be a persistent and welcomed feature on that channel - it's all so "Fair and Balanced" of course.

Even better that Pat Buchanan is labeled as a "conservative" and can sow confusion into the infidel ranks.

/sarc off

I'm just curious, as I must admit that I've never heard this story he is pimping. Is there even a tiny shred of truth to any of that bunk? Considering the source, I suppose I can answer my own query.

A tribute to Pat

Fahrenbalanced 9/11?

re: #16 Cartman

I'm just curious, as I must admit that I've never heard this story he is pimping. Is there even a tiny shred of truth to any of that bunk? Considering the source, I suppose I can answer my own query.

No.

re: #13 Syrah

Barking mad.

I heard him last night on "Howl of the Wolf Headlines", hosted by Liberal Leftists for Luna-See

re: #19 BGOH

No.

That's not quite what I was looking for.

re: #7 kevinmumaw

OT? BTW anyone see Apocalypto? I got the Blu-Ray from Netflix today and watched it. I thought it was impressive.

Never saw it in HD, but I thought it was a great movie.

Am I glad I wasn't watching Faux News tonight. I have just about given up. If I had been watching? 1 TV would have been destroyed, so help me.

WTF is wrong with what used to be a mostly reasonable source of news?

/Who next? Rosie?

Conservatism needs a nap.

re: #23 NY Nana

Am I glad I wasn't watching Faux News tonight. I have just about given up. If I had been watching? 1 TV would have been destroyed, so help me.

WTF is wrong with what used to be a mostly reasonable source of news?

/Who next? Rosie?

no,Huckabee...

re: #14 BGOH

Exactly. There is a reason why MSNBC has been using him as the voice of conservatism in their "coverage" of events for years. It isn't a good one, so far as conservatism is concerned.

True, but on MSLSD nobody saw him, except deranged moonbats.

Lizard News Channel...

re: #21 Cartman

That's not quite what I was looking for.

Sorry. It's about bedtime for me. I'll just say this: his premises are so far off base as to make the entire manuscript a steaming pile of garbage.

re: #15 boiledwombat

I expect that an anti-Jewish commentator will be a persistent and welcomed feature on that channel - it's all so "Fair and Balanced" of course.

/sarc off

They do have a self-hating Jewish Demonrat...Girly Man.

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Fahrenbalanced 9/11?

LOL

Seriously though, I don't think Buchanan is going to give a huge, enthusiastic endorsement of McCain anyway

re: #29 NY Nana

They do have a self-hating Jewish Demonrat...Girly Man.

/Now now, quit picking on Geraldo...

We could ask Fox to interview Joe American...

joe@joeamerican.us

They need a new booking agent at Fox, seriously. Badly. There are tons of new faces they could be putting on instead.

re: #29 NY Nana

They do have a self-hating Jewish Demonrat...Girly Man.

"Girliman" always sounded to me like a name out of Lord of the Rings.

re: #33 Thanos

They need a new booking agent at Fox, seriously. Badly. There are tons of new faces they could be putting on instead.

As long as they don't get rid of "War Stories".

Skeletor.

re: #28 BGOH

Sorry. It's about bedtime for me. I'll just say this: his premises are so far off base as to make the entire manuscript a steaming pile of garbage.

The reason I asked is that we've all heard of celebrations post-911 by people of Arabic/Islamic descent right here on our soil. I had never heard of a so-called Israeli connection to those disgusting displays. Did he (or someone else) just make up that crap about the moving company, etc.?

Somebody enlighten me. Are Ron Paul and Pat related, ideologically? Don't they both believe the Mossad are responsible for 9/11? Aren't they both Troofers? Dressed-up antisemites?

re: #30 Boolz

LOL

Seriously though, I don't think Buchanan is going to give a huge, enthusiastic endorsement of McCain anyway

No. Not a chance of that.

re: #23 NY Nana

Am I glad I wasn't watching Faux News tonight. I have just about given up. If I had been watching? 1 TV would have been destroyed, so help me.

WTF is wrong with what used to be a mostly reasonable source of news?

/Who next? Rosie?

I rarely turn my TV on. I turned it on last week for 30 minutes, and ended up watching the History Channel while I ate dinner. I'm not sure which made me more sick: the History Channel or my dinner. In any case, I turned it off and am doing my part to save energy by not turning it on again for a long time. If I want news, I will go to Fox's website.

Mostly; I don't want news. My mind is like a computer: garbage-in=garbage out. The more I leave it turned off the smarter I become.

I am now listening to a some classical piano music and LGF'ing. Soon I will do something even smarter and crawl into bed. Its amazing how liberating it is to turn OFF the TV, and leave it off.

I strongly encourage my fellow lizards to also turn off the TV and become smarter.

Oh-oh. McCain has said he's going with public financing of his campaign while Obama is not. McCain will be outspent 3 to 1, not that he wasn't toast already.

Amazingly, despite all the theories, it turns out that Pat Buchanan is only 6,000 years old.

re: #25 joecitizen

Forgot! And I actually was thinking he might be a good candidate...but that was before I knew very much about him. And Lanny Davis is now working for them. *spit* When the LA Times seems shocked...

Watch...Rosie will replace Hannity, who seems increasingly weird.

/Maybe they ate some of the bad tomatoes?

re: #35 rightwinger3

As long as they don't get rid of "War Stories".

With you on that one, it's a fave for my dad and I.

re: #42 Charles

Amazingly, despite all the theories, it turns out that Pat Buchanan is only 6,000 years old.

I think his skull is filled with some primordial ooze.

re: #42 Charles

Amazingly, despite all the theories, it turns out that Pat Buchanan is only 6,000 years old.

He certainly is a tower of babble.

re: #20 Carridine

I heard him last night on "Howl of the Wolf Headlines", hosted by Liberal Leftists for Luna-See

I not sure what Howl of the Wolf Headlines is but it led me to some Howlin' Wolf...

As soon as his book tour is over I hope they forget he exists again.

re: #45 MandyManners

I think his skull is filled with some primordial ooze.

naw,just cheap wine..

Buchanan reminds me of George McGovern

re: #31 Bob in Breckenridge

/Now now, quit picking on Geraldo...

Ha! I haven't even started on him yet...thanks for the reminder!

What a bloviating putz.

/I self-nominate that for a rotating title.

re: #50 slokat

Buchanan reminds me of George McGovern

If only he would vanish into obscurity as rapidly as McGovern did.

re: #37 Cartman Hello my friend - yes Pat Buchanan made them up - or heard someone else say it and then - with his usual uncritical mind regarding Jews, regurgitated it.

re: #48 Thanos

As soon as his book tour is over I hope they forget he exists again.

he's had 10(!) frickin' best sellers..he'll be back...

re: #24 Killgore Trout

Conservatism needs a nap.

Conservatism does not need a nap. Conservatism needs some balls. It needs the balls to tell Pat Pukakanan to blow it out his posterior and leave the GOP and conservatives the hell alone.

The world would have been done a hell of a favor if Bush had appointed him the governor of the Farallon Islands or some other such godforsaken hell'n'gone to keep him out of our hair. (only half joking.)

Seriously, every time that poor excuse of a man opens his trap and says something awful, the RNC should put out a press release expressing how happy the Party is that Pat Buchanan abandoned the party to run against Bush in 2000, and that the party is much better off without him.

re: #47 experiencedtraveller

An early musical hero... along with Wolfman Jack... Muddy Waters... Huddy Ledbetter...

and an LP of Plains Indians Chants from the turn of the century, ET...

re: #42 Charles
Are you sure about that - he sure seems a LOT older than that, although the Anti-Semitic bullshit he's peddling isn't.

re: #43 NY Nana

Forgot! And I actually was thinking he might be a good candidate...but that was before I knew very much about him. And Lanny Davis is now working for them. *spit* When the LA Times seems shocked...

Watch...Rosie will replace Hannity, who seems increasingly weird.

/Maybe they ate some of the bad tomatoes?

He has to do a show with Colmes...every weekday...

re: #56 Carridine

an LP of Plains Indians Chants from the turn of the century, ET...

Hihowareya Hihowareya Hihowareya....

Welcome to the world of the MSM's absolute power over America. They didn't do it alone. The schools helped.

re: #60 Egfrow

and Hollywood.

I knew Pat Buchanan wasn't really one of us back in the 90's from his numerous crossfire appearances.

Read down here, you can see he really agrees with leftist loon nihilist Jeremy Rifkin, indeed they are kindred souls.

[Link: eddriscoll.com...]

Pat Buchanan on Fox News Again

Better get used to it, he seems to be a new, regular H&C contributor, doesn't seem like he's going anywhere fast.

/speaking of travesty, anyone notice that Fox picked up Lanny Davis?

Sleepy time.

re: #53 realwest

Hello my friend - yes Pat Buchanan made them up - or heard someone else say it and then - with his usual uncritical mind regarding Jews, regurgitated it.

Thank you, RW. That's all I wanted to know. Let me know what's up with you via e-mail sometime, if you'd care to.

re: #55 Syrah Actually, William F. Buckley Jr. (RIP) did in fact throw Buchanan out of the Conservative movement - and rather forcefully at that in the early '60's I believe, for his Anti-Semitic Views.
Pat Buchanan is only a "conservative" in the eyes of people who hate conservatives or are fascists themselves.

How old is Pat anyway?
I know he's LOOOOOOOOOOONG past retirement age.

re: #61 Tarkus289

Hollywood is the MSM's headquarters. It's where Marxists dream of the gumdrop utopia everything is free and everyone has it.

re: #51 NY Nana

Ha! I haven't even started on him yet...thanks for the reminder!

What a bloviating putz.

/I self-nominate that for a rotating title.

I knew who you meant. But he kinda fit the demographic also. : )

re: #67 wolfie

How old is Pat anyway?
I know he's LOOOOOOOOOOONG past retirement age.

See Charles' #42.

Yes, I believe Fox is trying to sabotage Republicans. There is no excuse for putting Pat Buchanan on TV. His ideas fit with Keith Olberman, but he calls himself a Republican.

Additionally, Buchanan has proven himself to be an anti-Semite and historical demagogue.

re: #66 realwest

Actually, William F. Buckley Jr. (RIP) did in fact throw Buchanan out of the Conservative movement - and rather forcefully at that in the early '60's I believe, for his Anti-Semitic Views.
Pat Buchanan is only a "conservative" in the eyes of people who hate conservatives or are fascists themselves.

Unfortunately, Buckley didn't realize the only way to keep Buchanan out was to drive a stake through it's heart.

re: #69 Bob in Breckenridge
was the racist tinged comment yours?

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey
They were all in Amerindian languages, but a couple of them reached right through the decades and grabbed me, Buzz, grabbed me heart and soul...

re: #66 realwest

Actually, William F. Buckley Jr. (RIP) did in fact throw Buchanan out of the Conservative movement - and rather forcefully at that in the early '60's I believe, for his Anti-Semitic Views.
Pat Buchanan is only a "conservative" in the eyes of people who hate conservatives or are fascists themselves.

Some things need to be repeated until the message becomes clear. The RNC needs to repeatably denounce that creep.

I am happy to hear that WFB Jr. did that. The party should at least have half the courage and integrity of WFB.

re: #69 Bob in Breckenridge

BTW, white house white was a typo. I cut and pasted it.

re: #56 Carridine

and an LP of Plains Indians Chants from the turn of the century

Now THAT I would definitely try. Got a link?

Fox has been pining for McCain for a while now and has assisted in shutting out the debate of Rommney, Thompson, and Giuliani. Even Rupert Murdoch believes Obama is a "Rock Star"

re: #78 Bob in Breckenridge Cut and pasted it from what?
Something you wrote?

re: #69 Bob in Breckenridge

Keep the white house what?

re: #69 Bob in Breckenridge

I'm telling EVERYONE that if the GOP plays this right, we can keep the White House white and take back the house and senate THIS YEAR! Write a new "Contract With America", and it needs to be done soon, within 3 months AT THE LATEST.


you're kidding, right?

re: #69 Bob in Breckenridge

Please check you Swastika at the door.

re: #69 Bob in Breckenridge

WHAT THE FUCK? How stupid do they think we are?

Plenty. So far, they are right. We are stupid and the polls prove it.

re: #77 Syrah Amen to that; if the GOP had half the courage and integrity of William F. Buckley, Jr. all of us who are Republicans would be a hell of a lot better off than we are now.

re: #78 Bob in Breckenridge

It should be deleted.

While it might be a cut and paste. I think it would look no better then some of the more outrageous post on the Obama site if it were to remain.

Bob report yourself for editing. That comment cannot stay.

re: #80 experiencedtraveller

Sorry, ET, I lost the records circa 1972... it was a 2-LP set, if that helps, and I haven't searched for it for decades, Dewd...

/if you FIND THEM, please rattle my cage

Kooky Buchanan wrote another book, its a bestseller, so he's on. Fox News is the one news channel to watch over all the others, what else are you gonna watch, PMSMBC? The Clinton News Network? Of course not. So stop ripping it. I also say don't let the White House turn Pinko- Commie which Obama and his America hating bomb throwing ilk are. Like they used to say in the 50's - better dead than Red!

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

"Girliman" always sounded to me like a name out of Lord of the Rings.

So help me, we could have a contest to see who Colmes most resembles in LOTR...my kids know all about it, but I really do not.

Lizards, any suggestions?

I sent that stupid Hannity a scathing email. The man, and several other talk show turds seem to be pushing for an Obama victory and dreaming of the big conservative landslide of 2012. He's such a fool

Again, it must be said.

Pat Buchanan left the Republican Party in 1999, he wanted conservatives to follow him.

No conservatives in the Republican Party noticed that he left.

re: #92 NY Nana

Golem.

re: #92 NY Nana
Well, first off he resembles Saruman the Slimy

FWIW, I think McCain's taking public money is going to work in his favor for at least two reasons:
1. ALL of the polls I've read so far (if you go deep enough into them) have show that McCains' "Trust" factor is significantly higher that is Obama's. This move by McCain can only add to that, and I'll continue to believe that Americans will vote for, ultimately, the candidate that they can trust.
2. Obama would have had waaay more money than McCain even if McCain had also turned away
public funding.

re: #66 realwest

Actually I think it was in the late 1980's. Buchanan was a fierce anti-communist and Cold Warrior and, as long as that was Pat's main concern, he fit in w/ the conservative movement as a whole. Buchanan was not particularly hostile to Israel as long as they were pro-US and their enemies were pro-USSR.

Once the Cold War was over, minor differences became a sizeable rift, and the first place it showed up was in the attitude toward Israel. Buckley was convinced that Buchanan's views were not merely "criticisms of Israeli policy," but anti-semitic. At that point Buchanan had not shown his cards the way he has now, BTW, and many thought Buckley was possibly over-reacting. W/in a few years Buckley was more than vindicated, as we all know.
I remember following the controversy in National Review back then. Perhaps some other lizards do as well.

re: #38 nichtdhimmi

Somebody enlighten me. Are Ron Paul and Pat related, ideologically? Don't they both believe the Mossad are responsible for 9/11? Aren't they both Troofers? Dressed-up antisemites?

Short answer: Yes.

They are both the same special kind of ignorant, ueber-patriotic, isolationist, classically wrong-headed type of demagogue who's ideas date to the era roughly bracketed by William of Orange and Woodwow Wilson. They couple an admirable faith in the United States as an idea, with bigotry and foolishness that wouldn't be out of place at a KKK barbecue. They've gone so far 'round the bend we don't know what road they're on. They're so far right that they've gone left, and vice versa, and the only thing we're sure of is that precious few of their ideas would actually work in the real world.

re: #92 NY Nana

So help me, we could have a contest to see who Colmes most resembles in LOTR...my kids know all about it, but I really do not.

Lizards, any suggestions?

Golem.

re: #78 Bob in Breckenridge

BTW, white house white was a typo. I cut and pasted it.

Then ask that it be deleted!

re: #92 NY Nana

So help me, we could have a contest to see who Colmes most resembles in LOTR...my kids know all about it, but I really do not.

Lizards, any suggestions?

I don't know about Colmes but lots of people have said that Carville looks like Gollum.

Lord of the Flings: Starring Bill Clinton as Freedough Baggits.

Obama has the anti-American billionaire George Soros behind him, plus most of the newspapers and television stations and NPR. We only have a few papers, Fox News and Conservative Talk-radio, and common sense.

re: #72 Dianna

Diana! I just dinged you down and reported you....only because you quoted something that was deleted. :O I feel mean!

The key to winning this year will be for our side to personally convince all of the "common sense" democrats that we know that obama is a farce.
Just give them the 5 minute run-down of all of his nonsense, and show them a clip or two including that 52 second anti military screed. While you are at it show them 2 or 3 pictures of the Twin Towers, intact and during and after. Common sense will prevail.

Never underestimate the curtain.

re: #40 Geekasaurus

I strongly encourage my fellow lizards to also turn off the TV and become smarter.

I would require a 12-step program..I used to, as a kid, watch test patterns, as TV was not 24-hours a day.

time to get some sleeps.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

re: #100 rightwinger3

Not really.

Actually, Colmes doesn't resemble any LOTR character. Not even Grima Wormtongue.

Um, Charles - would you kindly delete my comment #79 as I was so angry I unwittingly quoted the relevant racist text.
Sorry.

re: #104 wolfie

Don't worry about it. I should have known better.

re: #108 Dianna

Not really.

Actually, Colmes doesn't resemble any LOTR character. Not even Grima Wormtongue.

What about Ted the Miller's son?

re: #100 rightwinger3

I think you mean, Gollum

/a Golem is an animated humanoid made from clay or wood or stone...

re: #92 NY Nana

So help me, we could have a contest to see who Colmes most resembles in LOTR...my kids know all about it, but I really do not.

Lizards, any suggestions?

I think Alan Colmes looks like a penis with eyes

re: #109 realwest

I don't remember which comment mine was, but it should be deleted, as well.

This nonsense about how WW2 was unnecessary?! What a crock. Hitler laid it all out in Mein Kampf. Germany needed Lebensraum, and the way to get it was to conquer Russia, kill off the Russians or enslave them, and re-people the place with Herrenvolk.

Now with that for an agenda, the Russians had no options. You can't cut a deal---how about if we just give you Russia up to the Arctic circle, and you let us keep Murmansk? Thinking in wider circles, what is Britain supposed to do? Stand aside? Her turn will come, and when it does, she won't have any chance at all.

What is the U.S. supposed to do? That sort of megalomaniac agenda has no end point we could have accepted. The only real possibilities, from where things stood in 1936, were war sooner, with better odds and lower casualties, or war later, with worse odds and heavier casualties.

So why is Buchanan pushing this book? An analogy comes to mind. Poland=Israel. And one more clue, one that Buchanan might not quite twig to: Daladier=Buchanan.

re: #111 Syrah

Huh?

Ted appears only in the Scouring of the Shire, and he's a watchman; he doesn't sound like Colmes, he sounds confused.

To be fair, Buchanan sounds better in the original German.

re: #118 iowahawk

To be fair, Buchanan sounds better in the original German.

Well said, IowaHawk

re: #118 iowahawk

We've been saying that since the 80's.

re: #104 wolfie

Diana! I just dinged you down and reported you....only because you quoted something that was deleted. :O I feel mean!

I did that to a couple of other quoters! Sorry! :O

Gotta boogie, Lizards...

See You Later
CUL

re: #105 Tarkus289 Never underestimate the curtain indeed. Please see my #97, first point.
It also explains why all the polls were SO WRONG about Kerry v. Bush in 2004. I do believe that rational people ulitmately pull the lever the the candidate in whom they feel they can place the most trust.

re: #121 wolfie

You were quite right to do so.

Don't worry about it.

But for the six years before Britain declared war, there was no Holocaust, and for two years after the war began, there was no Holocaust.
Not until midwinter 1942 was the Wannsee Conference held, where the Final Solution was on the table.