Pat Buchanan: Hitler Didn't Plan to Kill the Jews

So the Holocaust was just history's biggest "oopsy". I see.

/spit

retch is right!

Good job, Charles. Thanks for being the best pundit around.

Will the real William F. Buckley please stand up? Please stand up?

(hat tip: Charles)

I would really like to know what happened to Pat when he was a little kid to make him hate the Jews so much?

I'm beginning to think that no one cares about Mr. Buchanan’s ravings. Increasingly irrelevant and soon to be placed into the news-oblivion that he so richly deserves.

/Just Sayin'

re: #3 Iron Fist

He must have missed those parts in Mein Kampf where Hitler talked about exterminating the Jews.

They were in his Swiss Bank Hand Book...lol

The sad thing is that people view Pat Buchanan as representative of conservatives.

Yeah and Islam is a religion of peace, the check is in the mail, and sure I'll respect you in the morning.Hey maybe Hannity will have him on tonight again. Charles you are a man of principle. Spot on!

OK, can I call Buchanan a Nazi now? This seems well beyond just sympathizer territory.

He left out :

"And it wasn't the Nazi's who killed all those Jews. It was the bullets and the gas."

What a fucking tool.

Hitchens charmingly concludes: This book "stinks."

Heh.

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Antisemitic, yes. But is he a socialist / commie?

For fuck sakes. Please God can we get Victor Davis Hanson on board for another smackdown of this bigoted turd ?

And what the HELL is going on at townhall ?

Thanks for doing so, Charles.

re: #9 EC Marm

The sad thing is that people view Pat Buchanan as representative of conservatives.

Pat Buchanan is to "conservative" as Stepin Fetchit is to "African-American".

He's a minstrel show version of "conservative".

What are Townhall and Fox thinking.? This is monstrous stuff! This is in part to sell his book that I can't believe ANy sane person would buy. When he says we should have allowed Hitler to push through and stay in France - I shouted at the TV, "What about the Jews!?

this crosses the line, and i am writing to Fox that I am done if this bozo is allows to hang around and be credible. If someone wants to rip him to pieces (metaphorically) on the air, I'll watch that.

Disgusting. I could not be friends with a person who believed this vile poison.

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, I think it's safe to drop the qualifiers off Buchanan's "Nazi" title.

Can anyone get into my.barackobama.com right now? I can't.

Buchanan is only irrelevant if media sources start treating him as such. They haven't - given the way that Fox and Hannity and others continue to let him have airtime.

That must change. Townhall should be ashamed for being associated with this kind of revisionist nonsense.

re: #1 Occasional Reader

So the Holocaust was just history's biggest "oopsy". I see.

/spit

What the hell do you mean ?
It did not happen

/

Why not just say they were like that when I got here?

What do you think got up Townhall's ass?

re: #21 karmic_inquisitor

They know who you are and don't want you in there... ;)

re: #15 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Antisemitic, yes. But is he a socialist / commie?

He is a populist, if not more. I find it interesting that Jonah Goldberg spent and entire chapter on Pat Buchanan in Liberal Fascism.

re: #26 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Can you get in?

Retch is putting mildly.

prager, medved, Gallegher ought to pull out now from
Der townhall beobachter now

Well, that explains it. Pat said it, and it must be true, if only because he so desperately wants it to be true. Hitler was not a bad guy, it was the world that was to blame.

He wrote two manuscripts detailing his plans for the world, and if nothing else, the common theme was that a country could only survive if it conquered and grew. Everything else was decay. With that as a backdrop, he put it all into action as he said he would.

He planned on coming to America next, Patty - the breadbasket of the midwest was needed to feed his supercountry. Would that have been Churchill's baby, too?

MTV, GET OFF THE AIR. NOW! (er, Pat). Sorry, DKs.

re: #9 EC Marm

The sad thing is that people view Pat Buchanan as representative of conservatives.

This is one of the reasons I find him so disgusting. He uses the imprimatur of conservatism to spew bigotry and historical illiteracy.

Anyone with access to a search engine can refute all of his historical pronouncements in a matter of minutes.

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

The Brits were responsible for all those murders?

"Reich, retch, let's call the whole thing off"

Obama isn't even in office yet and anti-Semitism and Holocaust revisionism is becoming acceptable.
Israel better not give up any more land because they'll need the room for the American Jews.

re: #27 Honorary Yooper

OK... You seem to be right-on!
.
.
.
.
If there's a moveon why not a righton? or is there one...

Wansee Conference where the Nazi claque of dimwits met to craft Final solution.

Puke-cannon hits bottom, digs. He's passed through the middle of the earth right now and he's about to tunnel up into China.

He definitely planned to demonize them, and persecute them, and rally the German people around hatred for Jews, and heap blame on them for anything/everything that was wrong. He said so in Mein Kampf. He also said that if Jews didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent them.

Mein Kampf (English: My Struggle/My Battle)

is a book by the Austrian-born leader of Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler. It combines elements of autobiography with an exposition of Hitler's National Socialist political ideology. Volume 1 of Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and volume 2 in 1926.

It's the most documented and studied event in history.

I'll trust TAU.

Interesting things coming out into the light... Interesting as in the alleged Chinese curse about "interesting times" and living in same. And again, proves the well-known point that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

re: #34 MandyManners

The Brits were responsible for all those murders?

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

Someone should point out to that moron the date the Nuremberg Laws were formulated! It was way before WW2.

re: #31 brent

Well, that explains it. Pat said it, and it must be true, if only because he so desperately wants it to be true. Hitler was not a bad guy, it was the world that was to blame.

He wrote two manuscripts detailing his plans for the world, and if nothing else, the common theme was that a country could only survive if it conquered and grew. Everything else was decay. With that as a backdrop, he put it all into action as he said he would.

He planned on coming to America next, Patty - the breadbasket of the midwest was needed to feed his supercountry. Would that have been Churchill's baby, too?

MTV, GET OFF THE AIR. NOW! (er, Pat). Sorry, DKs.

And Pat is trying to bring Hitler's legacy to the US. I hope he goes and visits Germany, where he can be arrested for this shit.

that uber-babe Mary Katherine Ham left recently Der Townhall

That article actually did make me queasy.

re: #41 Ben Hur

It's the most documented and studied event in history.

I'll trust TAU.

I'll trust Henryk Mandelbaum

Next thing you know, he'll be endorsing BHO

No question Old Pats an ASS HAT !
I also notice the piece is full of " IFs" - If this didnt happpen IF that diidnt happen etc etc .
My uncle used to say " IF , IF --- IF MY GRANDMOTHER HAD WHEELS SHE'D BE A BUS "

re: #48 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Next thing you know, he'll be endorsing BHO

Once Ron Paul withdraws.

So I am getting 403s when I follow links to mybo.com

They read:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /page/community/post/tneil/CPyQ/commentary on this server.
Apache Server at my.barackobama.com Port 80

I tried this : [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

re: #47 Alouette

I'll trust Henryk Mandelbaum

I'll trust my bosses own mother. She'll gladly show you her tattoo from camp.

I think that Pat loves all the attention he's getting on the internet recently.

Technically, Buchanan may be correct. Hitler did not intend to kill the Jews, he intended to con his dupes into doing the dirty work for him. Technically, I think that he never actually personally killed anyone. He probably never even ordered any specific Jew killed. He probably just left it up to the worker bees and told them what a good job they were doing.

Something like many of the Imams nowadays.

re: #49 BIGDUKE 6

No question Old Pats an ASS HAT !
I also notice the piece is full of " IFs" - If this didnt happpen IF that diidnt happen etc etc .
My uncle used to say " IF , IF --- IF MY GRANDMOTHER HAD WHEELS SHE'D BE A BUS "

This would present Barack Hussein Obama with a problem.

Ron Paul!

I am very disappointed in Town Hall.

I guess Hitler killing all the Jews was just an accident or something.

Page is gone from Townhall.

Has it been pulled? I am getting " The page you requested cannot be found." message.

Buchanan mentions Wansee conference but does not mention that from June 1941 onwards the Nazi Einsatzgruppen slaughtered more then a million Jews by shooting. The Wansee conference fixated on gassing.

re: #53 Ben Hur

For sure.

re: #54 Sabba Hillel

Technically, Buchanan may be correct. Hitler did not intend to kill the Jews, he intended to con his dupes into doing the dirty work for him. Technically, I think that he never actually personally killed anyone. He probably never even ordered any specific Jew killed. He probably just left it up to the worker bees and told them what a good job they were doing.

Something like many of the Imams nowadays.

That argument didn't work for Charles Manson either.

This is something that I have long wondered about: do publishers pay to have authors appear on cable news opinion shows, like H&C, Olbermann, etc.? I've often wondered this because book pimping is very formulaic when these guys make appearances.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would willingly choose to put a loser like Buchanan on the air without getting a fat check in return.

Pat Buchanan is not a historian.

So is Pat Buchanan encouraged by liberal thinkers to roam free and broadcast his nonsense as a carnival freakshow example of 'conservative thought?'

Or are there enough who agree with him to make him a market force?

Gone!

If only we had a time machine that could travel back to the 1930s. That way we could have prevented Pat Buchanan.

re: #57 WriterMom

I am very disappointed in Town Hall.

I guess Hitler killing all the Jews was just an accident or something.

It started with a few jokes and just kind of snowballed from there is I guess what old Pat is trying to say.

Wow - behold the power of the green football! It's gone - good job Charles !

I wish I could remember the sequence, but the other manuscript (not Mein Kampf) was much more direct. This is what we do, this is what a country must do, and this is how Germany will implement it.

It's scary stuff, and he was very blunt about it. There was his plan for superbombers to hit American cities, feeding the people, labor from conquered countries. If anyone thinks that WWII was caused by something other than a megalomaniac, they're nuts.

Pat - you're a hateful nut. Another DeadKennedys song comes to mind, something about what Nazi Punks should do. Pat should do this.

re: #64 Ben Hur

Pat Buchanan is not a historian.

Very kind words. He's bordering on insane.

Article gone?

Pat is really pissed that he didn't get the part of Franz Liebkind in The Producers. His Broadway musical is way much better than "Springtime for Hitler"

re: #54 Sabba Hillel

Technically, Buchanan may be correct. Hitler did not intend to kill the Jews, he intended to con his dupes into doing the dirty work for him. Technically, I think that he never actually personally killed anyone. He probably never even ordered any specific Jew killed. He probably just left it up to the worker bees and told them what a good job they were doing.

Something like many of the Imams nowadays.

Hey, why don't you Google the Wanasee Conference and read a little. You're splitting hairs. I hope you were just trying to be "cute." Either way, you're WAY off base.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Poor Hitler. He was so misunderstood, let's give him a Nobel Peace prize.

And while we're at it--Mr Buchanan, there's an oven with your name on it in Hell.

re: #38 big L

Wansee Conference where the Nazi claque of dimwits met to craft Final solution.

Don't forget Assistant Secretary of State Breckinridge Long was given a smuggled copy of the Wansee Protocols, and dismissed them as forgeries. Long also was the main person deny entry to the US of refugees, mainly Jewish.

re: #67 iowahawk

Iowahawk-I just LOVED the CHRC piece you did. It was awesome. Thanks for all the laughs.

The page you requested cannot be found.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.

CHIP
QUICKLY,
R

Methinks that there is some Zionist hijinx afoot.

/Pat ibn Buchanan

It's a Zionist conspiracy! Most definitely!

re: #52 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'll trust my bosses own mother. She'll gladly show you her tattoo from camp.

It's impossible to deny the Holocaust happened. They are revising the reasons now. Unbelieveable.

Oy. WHY did I even attempt to read that dreck?!

/that man is twisted.

His ignorance and historical revisionism are astonishing. The special SS killing squads followed the German army as it moved east and specialized in murdering Jews with machine guns, enlisting local cadres to assist them. By all estimates, one million people were killed in that fashion. One of the reasons behind the Wanessee Conference was that the German army complained that their soldiers were being demoralized by all of these massacres, so the High Command set out to think of a more efficient manner to murder people.

This is notwithstanding the idea that Kristalnacht and the systematic stripping German and Austrian Jews of their civil rights during the 30s was perfectly fine and was not part of "the Holocaust."

What a wretched, evil man is this Pat Buchanan...

Strewth - the amount of historical revisionism in that scribbling (its not writing, it isnt) alone should make any editor reject it.
As for the stitching-together of 'when the trains began to roll' - that is wilful twisting of what really happened.
As if there were no KZ before 1942.
As if there had been no Nurmeberg race laws, no Kristallnacht - as if poor old Hitler was forced by the evil Allies to attack Poland, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, and the Soviet Union ...

Any student handing in such twaddle would be told to perhaps not remain at collge - and he's given a public platform for that.

The point is - these thoughts will be picked up by many uneducated people and re-told as plain fact, which was suppressed by the evil Zionists.

Sick - sick - sick!

re: #78 Render

The page you requested cannot be found.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.

CHIP
QUICKLY,
R

I can get it OK.

Walter in Golden, Co.

I’ve removed Townhall.com from our list of news sources. This is appalling.

I think theyre actually attempting to lose the election by putting dingbat's theories 'out there'.

Mc Cain should blast this nutcase's antics before he is smeared.

I wish I had met my grandfather Dr. Georg Fischer of Olomauc, Czech Republic (then Czechoslovokia), who was taken to Auschwitz and murdered. Our merciful God allows life blood to course through Pat Buchanan's veins. You'll never catch me parroting that dreadful Michael Savage line about liberalism being a mental disorder, not with Buchanan and Paul in our midst.

Townhall seems to have changed the link.

re: #78 Render

The page might be gone, but I wonder if there will be a 'splanation on the web site.

re: #59 seekeroftruth

Has it been pulled? I am getting " The page you requested cannot be found." message.

The google cache had this on the page:

Post from Thoughts on Strategy:
Obama Forgoes Public Financing
By Brenner - Jun 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pm EDT
Comments | Mail to a Friend | Report Objectionable Content

Check out this video that ended up in my inbox today. Obama announces that he's forgoing public financing, and explains why.

I don't like the reasons that Obama is giving for opting out of public financing. It's painfully clear to anyone with any common sense that Obama's doing this because he knows that he can raise way more than the $80 million or so that public financing provides, and won't be constrained to spend only this amount. By opting out of public financing, he has enabled his campaign to raise and spend unlimited amounts of money. But instead of being honest and transparent about it, in the video he says that McCain and his cohorts are too adept at "gaming this system [of public financing]" and playing by the old rules in politics.

Come on, Sen. Obama. Just give us the straight truth. The American people respect honesty, even if what you're doing isn't politically expedient (which this isn't, since you said you wouldn't opt out of public financing earlier in the campaign). People would understand this decision because it's based solely on the numbers.

Emerson once said, "Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing." I think you could learn a lot from this maxim. Next time, just tell the truth, or people will begin to doubt your authenticity.

Maybe the "cybernauts" that they hired to counter "smears" were flown in from China to crush and dispose of all dissent.

Big Brother has a first name: Barack.

"The Page You Requested Cannot Be Found."

re: #75 jemima

Poor Hitler. He was so misunderstood, let's give him a Nobel Peace prize.

He did get Time Magazine's "Man of the Year."

I thought Hugh Hewitt took over Town Hall. He seems smarter than this.

Hey re: #54 Sabba Hillel, you doing a little research or did we scare you away?

Walter in Golden, Co.

re: #67 iowahawk

I loved the Tobacco King pieces.

"Darth Vader built my hot rod."

BELLIGERENT
INANIMATE
OBJECTS,
R

re: #54 Sabba Hillel

Technically, Buchanan may be correct. Hitler did not intend to kill the Jews, he intended to con his dupes into doing the dirty work for him. Technically, I think that he never actually personally killed anyone. He probably never even ordered any specific Jew killed. He probably just left it up to the worker bees and told them what a good job they were doing.

Something like many of the Imams nowadays.

Semantics.

Just because you don't personally pull the trigger, does not mean you're not guilty under the law.

re: #64 Ben Hur

Pat Buchanan is not a historian.

Lots of steam coming off his book.

Pat got thrown under the bus.

re: #51 karmic_inquisitor

So I am getting 403s when I follow links to mybo.com

They read:

I tried this : [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

I tried a straight up my.barackobama.com and got a log in page.

Looks like they finally got somebody who knows a little bit about internet security. You can't look at myobama unless you open an account. . . . can't have just anyone looking at the dirty laundry you know!

This is all part of a plan.

Just like Hitler demonized the Joos in order to make their extermination more palatable to the masses, DinnerJacket, the far left, the far right and the Arabs are simply preparing their like minded supporters for the big day.

This way, if it happens, they have an army of "excusers."

And the post modernist MSM (and their candidate's followers) will give them equal time because all positions and views are valid and must be provided for balance.

re: #89 WriterMom

The page might be gone, but I wonder if there will be a 'splanation on the web site.

Page is still here.

PB *** you and the horse you rode in on you *** of ***. You give *** a bad name. ESAD!

re: #100 Ben Hur

army of "excusers

BenHur-that's absolutely right. I must remember that phrase. You go updingaling, darling.

re: #84 yma o hyd

Strewth - the amount of historical revisionism in that scribbling (its not writing, it isnt) alone should make any editor reject it.
As for the stitching-together of 'when the trains began to roll' - that is wilful twisting of what really happened.
As if there were no KZ before 1942.
As if there had been no Nurmeberg race laws, no Kristallnacht - as if poor old Hitler was forced by the evil Allies to attack Poland, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, and the Soviet Union ...

Any student handing in such twaddle would be told to perhaps not remain at collge - and he's given a public platform for that.

The point is - these thoughts will be picked up by many uneducated people and re-told as plain fact, which was suppressed by the evil Zionists.

Sick - sick - sick!

Yet the Left Wing equivalent would get tenure.

#92

The Man of the Year thing is nominally for good or ill. But we suspect Time admired him greatly as it does all dictators and murderers.

I can't stand it - now that 'song' is stuck in my head.

For you, Pat.

Nazi Punks,
Nazi Punks,
Nazi Punks -
F*CK OFF!

Repeat.

re: #101 Alouette

I made a PDF of it.

The article is still listed under their columnists, but the link is dead.

Get with the pogrom.

/Pat Buchanan.

"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.

- Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 234

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Killgore, Alouette's link was still live.

Its still listed as a link on their frontpage.

Charles, I agree.

re: #75 jemima

Poor Hitler. He was so misunderstood, let's give him a Nobel Peace prize.

And while we're at it--Mr Buchanan, there's an oven with your name on it in Hell.

The Nobel Piss Prize Committee won't give him one because he failed to kill all the Jews, and his policies resulted in the formation of Israel, which they think is a bigger danger to peace than Hitler was.
/do I need to?

re: #110 Dustyvet

"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.

- Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 234

He was forced to say those things, because of the threat of war from Britain.

/

I got a 404, went back to a list of columnists, saw the link for the Buchanan article and clicked. 404 again.

A few weeks ago Michael Savage said he wasn't welcome on his show any more.

Yes, the print version is still there.

Townhall.com needs to apologize for this. I'm not putting them back in the news sources until they make a statement.

It's not enough to just make it vanish and think the problem is solved.

"If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition. If one little Jewish boy survives without any Jewish education, with no synagogue and no Hebrew school, it [Judaism] is in his soul. Even if there had never been a synagogue or a Jewish school or an Old Testament, the Jewish spirit would still exist and exert its influence. It has been there from the beginning and there is no Jew, not a single one, who does not personify it."

- Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse, p. 122; from a conversation with Croatian Foreign Minister General Kvaternik, July 21, 1941

It looks like it is past time to start a letter writing campaign against Fox, Townhall (and perhaps email Hugh Hewitt directly?), and other media outlets that give Buchanan airtime and exposure.

I would suggest something along the lines of this:

I am writing to express my extreme displeasure of knowing that you continue to give Pat Buchanan airtime and an outlet for exposure despite his ongoing rewriting of history and anti-Semitic attitudes.

He has repeatedly made statements that are offensive, including that Hitler didn't actually set out to kill the Jews. That couldn't be further from the historical record, which shows that Hitler was very interested in doing just that, and expanded his interests in doing so as he accumulated power and Germany's war machine overran vast Jewish populations in Poland and Russia.

The Holocaust was inevitable because people did not choose to stand up against the evil of Hitler when they had the chance, not because we didn't give in to his demands.

While Buchanan was once a speechwriter and politically connected Republican whose views made him a one-time presidential candidate. Now, he should be rightfully shunned for his anti-Semitic and revisionist history. He has no place in being prominently promoted on your outlet.

Thank you for your prompt attention.

Sincerely,

lawhawk

re: #99 galloping granny

Interesting. Thanks.

I get forbiddens across the board. I think my IP is blocked.

BFD - I will use a different one.

Amazing - here is the man who is going to change politics and is of the people, and in the last 48 hours he has :

1) gone back on campaign finance reform (under the bus)

2) cut off all access to him by reporters (under the bus)

3) shut down public debate over his policies at his website (under the bus)

Change!

Charles - "I’ve removed Townhall.com from our list of news sources. This is appalling."
Good for you and good on you, though I would have used a word somewhat stronger than appalling.
What the hell is wrong with Townhall.com? I mean even if they didn't know Buchanan is a major league Anti-Semite, you'd think they'd at least read what he wrote!

I've missed most of the Pat B threads so don't know if this has been discusses, but do you think he is mentally ill? I don't recall him being a wackjob years ago.

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

The Holocaust would have happened with or without the war. It's just a matter of when. And without the war it would have likely gone on much longer unimpeded with countless more deaths.

Mr. Buchanan states that Hitler began the holocaust after Britain declares war on germany with the assumption that the declaration of war was the cause.

Isn't it a more realistic assumption that after Britains declaration of war, Hitler felt he was running out of time to enact his final solution?

re: #51 karmic_inquisitor

So I am getting 403s when I follow links to mybo.com

They read:

I tried this : [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

I like the Obama quote the best. He does believe in change, obviously.

re: #118 Charles

Townhall.com needs to apologize for this. I'm not putting them back in the news sources until they make a statement.

I would consider that too generous. This is a serious lapse in judgment.

re: #114 Kosh's Shadow

The Nobel Piss Prize Committee won't give him one because he failed to kill all the Jews, and his policies resulted in the formation of Israel, which they think is a bigger danger to peace than Hitler was.
/do I need to?

You jest, but in many polls of Europeans, Israel is listed as the greatest threat to world peace. Along with GWB of course.

Very well written!re: #120 lawhawk

Found it.

re: #101 Alouette

oh man...

A proper fisking of that almost entirely fictional feces would be longer then the crap article is to begin with.

Who does Buchanan think he is and who does he think he's talking to here?

REMAINDER
DELETED,
R

Hey how come whenever I hit on Charles link or on Aloutte's link (and thank you for that!) I get an automatic "Printer Ready" display on my computer?!

re: #123 Dave the...
Years go he was defending Nazi war criminals. His hatred of Israel is on record, and yes, he hates Jews. Something is very, very wrong with this man.

eccchh, this is disgusting! At least that's what I thought when I turned off H&C last night.

I hope Fox isn't calculating that McCain needs the the fractional faction of righty voters who follow Buchanan on radio/tv and the websites who support that bigot. I've started skipping Hannity on radio because I've had it up to here with Hannity and his verbal broken record of a dozen stale repeated talking points the last 3-4 months. Sean is another unprepared, wimpy debater like O'Reilly (well, maybe Hannity IS briefed - twice a year). Now I'm getting ready to ditch H&C too.

/O how I will miss Colmes.

"The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time."

- Jackel, Hitler's Worldview, p. 52; from a speech at Nuremberg, January 13, 1923

They didn't delete it. I reposted the link.

Hey, I thought the "unnecessary war" occurred when the idiot Austrian corporal declared war on the US on Dec. 11, 1941.

re: #131 realwest

That's the printer-friendly link. The original link (one that is not so friendly to print) was removed.

Pat's logic is so brilliant. Of course he's right, we have nothing to worry about if we leave Iran alone.

/sarc, of course

Buchanan's spiel would be better suited to the diaries of the Daily Kos, IMHO.

re: #127 Nevergiveup
I believe that W. will be vindicated over time and that is what Buchanan is afraid of and wants to prevent.

re: #133 runrabbitrun

eccchh, this is disgusting! At least that's what I thought when I turned off H&C last night.

I hope Fox isn't calculating that McCain needs the the fractional faction of righty voters who follow Buchanan on radio/tv and the websites who support that bigot. I've started skipping Hannity on radio because I've had it up to here with Hannity and his verbal broken record of a dozen stale repeated talking points the last 3-4 months. Sean is another unprepared, wimpy debater like O'Reilly (well, maybe Hannity IS briefed - twice a year). Now I'm getting ready to ditch H&C too.

/O how I will miss Colmes.

Forgive me, I've been hibernating, but, where is Colmes going?

re: #32 buzzsawmonkey

I notice that Buchanan refers to "Germany's own Maginot Line" against France, which was known as "the Siegfried Line," as Germany's Western Wall.

This cynical choice of phrase is telling, as it suggests that Buchanan regards Hitler's Germany as his Temple Mount.

bsm, it is common usage particularly among American historians to label the 'Siegfried Line' as Germany's 'western wall'. The German's themselves often use 'westwall' to describe the fortifications. Buchanan didn't invent the term.

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

Yep that sucker is still alive.

It could be that Buchanan has upload rights to Townhall, and he or his editor was able to publish it direct.

But I cannot believe Hannity and the Jewish Alan Colmes is still giving exposure to his historical revisionism.

re: #3 Iron Fist

I don't disagree that the animal actually wanted and intended to murder mass numbers of Jews, Gypsies, and other "undesirables". However, he doesn't actually say it flat out in mein kampf, instead, like the gutless little weasel he was, he dances around it.

-ron

re: #118 Charles

And a promise that they will never publish any of that guys work again.

WOULD
BE
NICE,
R

The article has not been removed. The link I originally posted doesn't get there for some reason, but the article is still there.

re: #136 Little Boomer

Hey, I thought the "unnecessary war" occurred when the idiot Austrian corporal declared war on the US on Dec. 11, 1941.

Yup, that was some brilliant military maneuver.

re: #117 NJDhockeyfan

A few weeks ago Michael Savage said he wasn't welcome on his show any more.

Probably because he isn't anti-liberal enough.

(Note I didn't say "conservative." Michael Savage is not a conservative.)

So they tried to hide the link from us?

WTF?,
R

re: #54 Sabba Hillel

Technically, Buchanan may be correct. Hitler did not intend to kill the Jews, he intended to con his dupes into doing the dirty work for him. Technically, I think that he never actually personally killed anyone. He probably never even ordered any specific Jew killed. He probably just left it up to the worker bees and told them what a good job they were doing.

Something like many of the Imams nowadays.

I believe he did - during the Night of the Long Knives.

The best sentence from Buchanan's piece:

If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet? Why did he not demand the French fleet when France surrendered?

Because Churchill sank it.

It's at WND.

What a specious argument. Fact is antisemitism was central to Nazi rallies not just in Germany but in the rest of the west as well. Hitler exploited and nurtured this to unite the Germans and provide a distraction in the countries that might stop him too soon. It was inevitable that bad things would happen; and they did, not just for the Jews but for the world.

re: #118 Charles

Yes, the print version is still there.

Townhall.com needs to apologize for this. I'm not putting them back in the news sources until they make a statement.

It's not enough to just make it vanish and think the problem is solved.

It's been said before, but needs to be repeated often: Buchanan does not represent conservatives, Republicans, or even moderates. The man is way off base, who once in a while starts to sound a bit rational, then just totally reveals a very nutty inside.

re: #141 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Forgive me, I've been hibernating, but, where is Colmes going?

Just on vacation from my tv, if H&C keeps hosting Buchanan.

re: #127 Nevergiveup

You jest, but in many polls of Europeans, Israel is listed as the greatest threat to world peace. Along with GWB of course.

That's what I was thinking of when I wrote it.
But we know the crocodile won't be satisfied with Israel.

re: #1 Occasional Reader
Prior to the Wansee conference, I believe that about 2,000,000 Jews had already been killed. I guess that wasn't enough for Pat!

Buchanan is mad.

This is from Winston Churchill's summary of "Mein Kampf", which you can find in his book "The Gathering Storm", page 55 & 56:

"Any living organism which ceases to fight for its existence is doomed to extinction. ...The fighting capacity of a race depends of its purity. Hence the need of ridding it of foreign defilements. The Jewish race, owing to its universality, is of necessity pacifist and internationalist. Pacificism is the deadliest sin..."

Read between the lines.

Buchanan is mad.

re: #152 greenmamba

And it's already got 6 Diggs there at WND.

re: #69 seekeroftruth

Nevermind...
This is a disgrace. I really hope Townhall addresses this and takes corrective actions asap.

This is a big black mark for Townhall.
This is a reason for me to keep an eye on them, but for now they deserve my benefit of doubt before I cast them overboard.

re: #140 Alibaba

I believe that W. will be vindicated over time and that is what Buchanan is afraid of and wants to prevent.

I believe you have it right.

It looks like Iraq is turning around faster than anyone expected 6 months ago. If that trend keeps up, look for all sorts of reasons to emerge about it having nothing to do with the blood, sweat and tears invested by the military. Sane people will know better.

GW's stick-to-it-ness will be remembered.

re: #147 Charles

The article has not been removed. The link I originally posted doesn't get there for some reason, but the article is still there.

Charles, have you emailed Townhall.com asking about this? Or Hugh Hewitt?

re: #152 greenmamba

It's at WND.

Yet another reason not to read WND.

re: #124 Bryantay
What on earth does Buchanan think Krystalnacht was? A walk in the park?

My disgust with and hatred of Puke-Cannon only gets deeper.
He's just getting back to the teachings of his nazi loving father and grandfather FWIU.

Phewcanons next book is entitled "The true story of Jeffrey Dahmer; how his victims caused him to try cannibalism by not offering him a vegan diet."

By November, 1941, it was becoming known in the upper reaches of the Nazi leadership and the bureaucracy that Hitler intended all the Jews of Europe to be deported to the eastern territories and, one way or another, killed there. Such a vast enterprise, involving the registration, assembly and transportation of millions of people, to be carried out at a time when Germany's infrastructure was under severe strain, was a massive logistical undertaking. It was also one which at least some elements of the German state apparatus might be expected to oppose, obstruct or fail to co-operate with. It thus became necessary to bring together representatives of all the relevant departments to explain to them what was intended and how it was to be carried out, and to make it clear that this undertaking was done on the highest authority of the Reich and could not be resisted.
So it was a mere accident of war. Here was Hitler and the upper echaelons of the Nazi party diverting needed resources from the War to register, assemble deport and kill civilians on a massive scale, yet this was 'accidental' and 'unintentional' by the various departments, agencies, and governmental officials required to undertake such heinous actions. Pat has gone past the point of no return. His jew hating, evident from his youth, has now gone into tinfoil hat land. He is a nazisymp and no conservative. He should be banned from the public airwaves, as he no longer has anything credible to say.

re: #134 Dustyvet

"The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time."

- Jackel, Hitler's Worldview, p. 52; from a speech at Nuremberg, January 13, 1923

In other words, Jews are a threat to the idea that "might makes right".
The world has progressed; Hitler wanted it to regress.

Buchanan sez:

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

I'm somewhat stupefied.

Is he being serious?

Buchanan also says in the article:

But for the six years before Britain declared war, there was no Holocaust, and for two years after the war began, there was no Holocaust.

Not until midwinter 1942 was the Wannsee Conference held, where the Final Solution was on the table.

That conference was not convened until Hitler had been halted in Russia, was at war with America and sensed doom was inevitable. Then the trains began to roll.

Uh, Pat, how do you explain the fact that Auschwitz was built in 1940, two years before the Wannsee Conference?

How do you explain Kristallnacht? What was that -- a tea party? And in happened in 1938, before the war even first started. Yes, I'm sure the Germans had no ill-intentions against the Jews at all until that nasty ol' Churchill just back Hitler into a corner and forced him to commit genocide against his will!

Buchanan hasn't just jumped the shark, he's jumped into the madhouse.

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Interesting. Thanks.

I get forbiddens across the board. I think my IP is blocked.

BFD - I will use a different one.

Amazing - here is the man who is going to change politics and is of the people, and in the last 48 hours he has :

1) gone back on campaign finance reform (under the bus)

2) cut off all access to him by reporters (under the bus)

3) shut down public debate over his policies at his website (under the bus)

Change!

This IS change you know. The kind usually associated with dictatorships, fascism & the like.

Change is not always good.

re: #19 DistantThunder

After 9/11, I watched Fox a lot. Then with Katrina and what turned out to be lies (or shall we call them urban legends) that were told, seeing Shepard Smith ranting about the evil people in the govt letting New Orleans die... I started backing off from them. A dem friend of mine was just infuriated that the "Feds" as she called them didn't take over and "save New Orleans". And I asked her if they should have overridden the local govt who would not sign for "The Feds" to legally come in. And she says "yes". I for one don't want the military to deploy inside the U.S. without every t crossed and i dotted. And I am a military brat and pro military as resource in foreign affairs.

This Town Hall thing is going down the same type road. I'll look forward to seeing what Dennis Prager (at Townhall) says about it. I like his show and if he hangs in with this, I'll be quite disappointed in him. There is a line on each side that we shouldn't appease in U.S. politics.

re: #110 Dustyvet

"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.

- Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 234

Buchanan implies that Hitler was not fighting for world domination:

"If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet? ..."

re: #151 wahabicorridor

Hitler built all the fleet he could, and was frantically working to build a very great fleet indeed.

Buchanan's point about the Wannsee Conference is also specious. The Einsatzgruppen were at work in Russia from day one, and a lot of killiong had been done in Poland before that.

Yes, it's at WorldNetDaily too.

I'd remove them from our news sources, but I already did more than a year ago.

re: #169 Kosh's Shadow

In other words, Jews are a threat to the idea that "might makes right".
The world has progressed; Hitler wanted it to regress.

Sounds like the Democrat Song

Buchanan is complete laughingstock. The Holocaust thing is the biggest jawdropper, but this ain't too shabby either:

And why did Hitler invade Russia? This writer quotes Hitler 10 times as saying that only by knocking out Russia could he convince Britain it could not win and must end the war.

Um Pat, leaving aside the fact that Hitler had always intended to invade Russia, the event that through him into a mad rage was Stalin's invasion of the Baltic States.

Does Pat want to go and have dinner with Imadinnerjacket or something? Maybe the next holocaust denial conference will make it onto this deluded little tolkein character's itinerary. What a horse's ass.

I gave up on WND years ago.

What is this turd's ancestory?

Pat,
Explain to me how an extended family in Vienna, Austria (76 relatives- mother, dad, sister, brothers cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents) were all rounded up in 1938 and 1939 by the SS? Were they merely misunderstood because of their Jewish faith? No, they were targeted by the Nazis. Their homes, businesses, properties, bank accounts and ALL their personal belongings were seized by the Nazis. There was a lone survivor, a son, who was the only member of the family to make it to America, but then volunteered for the US Army and serve in the Pacific War against Japan. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being. Hitler was a monster and we are reliving the rise of the beast again...and the world will stand by and watch as all the horrors of war, famine, pestilence and death ride again.

(disturbance in the force this morning, last ten minutes I couldn't get anything from LGF but the header and search page? seems to be feeling much better now)

re: #180 MandyManners

What is this turd's ancestory?

Irish.

Pat's point about declaring war on Hitler leading to the demise of Britain's Empire strikes me as wrong, too. Britain granted independence to the countries in its empire, they didn't lose them to Hitler.

I know the staff at O'Reilly are here reading...

Bill needs to go to town on Buchanan, just like he did to Dodd..

re: #180 MandyManners
You said "turd". A most under-utilized term.

I have long thought WND wasn't a credible source. I worry about Fox news. Pat went off the rails a long time a go, but this is too far. I would like never to see him again.

Isn't there a bus somewhere that we can throw Buchanan under? This idiotic attempt to paint him as a "mainstream conservative" is going to cause real damage unless it is halted pronto.

So, I've submitted emails to Hewitt, Hannity, and Townhall. We'll see if I get any responses.

Remember, if you do choose to write, please be respectful but direct.

What I dearly want to know is why does every whack-job turn to anti-Semitism? I'd like to know why they hate Jews so much. It makes no sense to me as they seem like some of the best and nicest people in the world, IMHO.

/Just trying to wrap my head around how one could hate a group of people who have contributed so much good to the world.

re: #158 Ojoe

Buchanan is mad.

This is from Winston Churchill's summary of "Mein Kampf", which you can find in his book "The Gathering Storm", page 55 & 56:

Read between the lines.

Buchanan is mad.

Read between the lines.

Buchanan is mad.

BONZO-JERKY

re: #179 Simple Voice

What is a good alternative to WND?

Why is Townhall giving a forum to the ravings of a man who is propagandizing for the greatest enemy America has ever known? An enemy that sought to destroy everything that this country stands for?

Maybe Townhall and Daily Kos should merge. That way, the anti-semites and America haters could get all their news in one place.

re: #183 zombie

Irish.

Didn't the Irish side with the Nazis?

Hey look, if say the New Yawk Times declined to print bad craziness, what would they print? OTOH, it would save a lot of ink.

Free speech and all yeah right, but Buchanan is maybe three hairs from going postal, if he starts parading around in SS drag enhanced with American flags and an aluminum helmet, will he still be invited on Fox and published on Townhall?

re: #191 Golem Akbar

What is bonzo-jerky?

The reason he is so prominent on MSNBC is because he is a major douche bag.

Why do other networks have him on? Incestuous mentality of the media.

re: #180 MandyManners

Jerk.

re: #196 Ojoe

What is bonzo-jerky?

The chief lunatic, the bull-goose looney.

re: #186 daddycrack

You said "turd". A most under-utilized term.

Just another piece of refuse that I'd like to see flushed out of civilized dialogue.

re: #192 Ojoe

What is a good alternative to WND?

LGF is the only place you need.

re: #199 Golem Akbar

Ah.

re: #151 wahabicorridor

I believe he did - during the Night of the Long Knives.

The best sentence from Buchanan's piece:

If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet? Why did he not demand the French fleet when France surrendered?

Because Churchill sank it.

With help from the Lend Lease Act.

Just sent an email to Townhall: "Drop Buchanan and drop him now!"re: #117 NJDhockeyfan

re: #180 MandyManners

What is this turd's ancestory?

He was intelligently designed

[deleted]

oops, missed!

re: #197 freedomplow

The reason he is so prominent on MSNBC is because he is a major douche bag.

Why do other networks have him on? Incestuous mentality of the media.

Yes, it's another way to show how crazy the right is.

re: #198 WriterMom

Jerk.

Jerk the turd?

re: #194 MandyManners

Didn't the Irish side with the Nazis?

They stayed Neutral, like Spain and Switzerland.

re: #157 Alibaba

Prior to the Wansee conference, I believe that about 2,000,000 Jews had already been killed. I guess that wasn't enough for Pat!

accidents.

OT:

Heads are still exploding at DKos.

Heh.

re: #205 itellu3times

He was intelligently designed

[deleted]

oops, missed!

More like "demonically designed."

re: #203 Eowyn2

The French scuttled a lot of it too

re: #194 MandyManners
The Irish remained "neutral" during WWII. However, thousands of Irish did volunteer.

re: #27 Honorary Yooper

He is a populist, if not more. I find it interesting that Jonah Goldberg spent and entire chapter on Pat Buchanan in Liberal Fascism.

There's a reason I keep saying the left and right meet a populism.

re: #208 zombie

They stayed Neutral, like Spain and Switzerland.

I've read stuff here and elsewhere about the pro-Nazi tinges of Ireland's neutrality.

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

Melting down over FISA?

re: #214 Sharmuta

At- pimf.

Utterly depressing.

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Heads are still exploding at DKos.

Heh.

Indeed. Guess they haven't quite realized that the Democrats were posturing all along and got rolled by the Administration again.

re: #190 Honorary Yooper
As an admirer of Father Coughlin, he probably still blames Jews for the death of Jesus; and is jealous in general.

re: #189 lawhawk

So, I've submitted emails to Hewitt, Hannity, and Townhall. We'll see if I get any responses.

Remember, if you do choose to write, please be respectful but direct.

Emails out here as well. Thanks !

re: #216 Killgore Trout

And the war appropriations bill that passed without problems, to say nothing of no timeline for withdrawal.

Normal article version works fine for me. Maybe they just played around with the URL.

Pat's last gasp for fame, glory and money

Buchanen has been irrelevant since he told people that God told him to raise millions of dollars or God would take him home. His followers sent suitcases instead.

re: #194 MandyManners

Didn't the Irish side with the Nazis?

IIRC, they were officially neutral in WWII. More due to hatred of the British than anything else. I do believe the US was able to make use of Irish airfields for refueling and repairs.

The article's still there if you click Buchanan's name in the list of Townhall columnists.

Also, if anyone wants to comment on this at FR, go here.

re: #211 MandyManners

More like "demonically designed."

Angels are bright, but the brightest fell, ...

re: #110 Dustyvet

"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.

- Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 234

... and as the quote shows, Buchanan ignores how central Hitler's anti-Semitism was to his decision making. Soviet Russia was the Judeo-Bolshevik Brood that had to be eradicated if Germany was to prevail. And what the initial pre-war plans to deport all Jews en masse, implying causing massive death? Buchanan's full of s*.

re: #213 Alibaba

The Irish remained "neutral" during WWII. However, thousands of Irish did volunteer.

For which side?

I don't mean to defame decent Irish but, as I posted just a second ago, I've read here and elsewhere about Irish who were sympathetic to the Nazis since they opposed the Brits, too.

I just hit me that I'm talking about Northern Ireland.

re: #175 Charles

Yes, it's at WorldNetDaily too.

I'd remove them from our news sources, but I already did more than a year ago.

I consider WND to be about as reliable as Debka.

re: #120 lawhawk

Damn typo in that last paragraph:

While Buchanan was once a speechwriter and politically connected Republican whose views made him a one-time presidential candidate. Now, he should be rightfully shunned for his anti-Semitic and revisionist history. He has no place in being prominently promoted on your outlet.

re: #203 Eowyn2

With help from the Lend Lease Act.

Actually I think the reference was to Churchill's decision to attack and sink the French Fleet at Oran before the German's could get their filthy hands on it.

[Link: www.digitalsurvivors.com...]

re: #208 zombie

They stayed Neutral, like Spain and Switzerland.

But the Irish Americans were quite involved in WWII. 4 of my 5 uncles on my mother's side (full irish) and it would have been 5 but one uncle was just too damn young.

And dont forget the Sullivans

I never did like Pat Buchanan. I always sensed something about him that was just a bubble out of plumb. I have seen no reason to change my opinion of him over the last 30 years.

My guess is that Pat's impetus for writing this madness is opposition to current action in the war on terror. One of the arguments for action used is that the jihadis are just like Hitler. Rather than saying no they aren't, Pat is taking the position of so what? Hitler wasn't that bad.

Are any of the other WOT opponents going to buy it and agree with Pat?

re: #226 Honorary Yooper

Northern Irish.

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Heads are still exploding at DKos.

Heh.

What are they talking about?

re: #223 lawhawk

Ah, they're really whipped into a frenzy other there today.

re: #236 zmdavid

My guess is that Pat's impetus for writing this madness is opposition to current action in the war on terror. One of the arguments for action used is that the jihadis are just like Hitler. Rather than saying no they aren't, Pat is taking the position of so what? Hitler wasn't that bad.

Are any of the other WOT opponents going to buy it and agree with Pat?

Ron Paul?

re: #234 Eowyn2

But the Irish Americans were quite involved in WWII. 4 of my 5 uncles on my mother's side (full irish) and it would have been 5 but one uncle was just too damn young.

And dont forget the Sullivans

The Fighting Sullivans!

/great story, and great movie

Did anyone think that Buchanan is just sucking up to his inevitable Muslim Overlord Hussein Obama ?

BTW, I gave up on WorldNetDaily a while ago.

re: #234 Eowyn2

But the Irish Americans were quite involved in WWII. 4 of my 5 uncles on my mother's side (full irish) and it would have been 5 but one uncle was just too damn young.

And dont forget the Sullivans

[Link: navysite.de...]

USS The Sullivans (DDG 68)

re: #157 Alibaba

Prior to the Wansee conference, I believe that about 2,000,000 Jews had already been killed. I guess that wasn't enough for Pat!

Don't think so, but at least a good half a million or so had been shot and bludgeoned in Soviet Russia and Poland and elsewhere in the east.

Buchanan conveniently omits the most important history to suit his own ends. Hitler exploited the appeasement mentality of the West over and over again to gain territory without war, against the advice of his own generals. It worked, adding to Hitler's credibility and discrediting the conservative German General Staff.

Buchanan's own anti-semitism is aptly illustrated in his apologetics for Hitler's invasion of Poland, where Hitler dressed up Jewish concentration camp inmates as German soldiers, and then murdered them, scattering their corpses around the Polish border. He then trumped up an accusation of Polish border aggression to justify Germany's and Stalin's simultaneous invasion. The Poles didn't have a prayer.

At the point, the British and the French, allied to Poland, had had enough, and declared war on Germany.

Buchanan is the modern day equivalent of Joe Goebbels. The Big Lie, anyone?

re: #206 Golem Akbar
Which in turn KILLS the GOP.

The history of Royal Irish military service in WW2 is long and extremely honorable. That represents Ireland.

Homegrown terrorists dealing with the nazi regime and post war dealing with the Warsaw Pact and it's other terrorist allies does not represent Ireland.

===

I can't write to Townhall or WND about this because I no longer have the ability to remain polite in the face of such utter and complete revisionist bullshit.

MANY
MANDY
WORDS,
R

OT:
more depressing news:

Only left wing ideology allowed.

re: #168 eaglewingz08

best post in the thread so far (this guy knows his stuff). For the rest, a great way to understand all of this is to watch the movie with Kenneth Brannagh (and a few other famous actors), called Decision at Wansee (or the Wansee Accord). it is an excellent film, and as far as I can tell, spot on with regard to historical accurracy.

highly recommend it.

re: #230 MandyManners
on the side of the Allies. However, when Hitler "passed on" Eamon de Valera, their disgrace P.M., lowered the flag. It should have been stuck up his tush!

re: #248 Render

The history of Royal Irish military service in WW2 is long and extremely honorable. That represents Ireland.

Homegrown terrorists dealing with the nazi regime and post war dealing with the Warsaw Pact and it's other terrorist allies does not represent Ireland.

===

I can't write to Townhall or WND about this because I no longer have the ability to remain polite in the face of such utter and complete revisionist bullshit.

MANY
MANDY
WORDS,
R

As I posted, I was thinking of the Northern Irish who had no love for England.

re: #180 MandyManners

Father Charles Coughlin redux.

He's poison and hurts everyone who gives him airtime.

re: #247 Alibaba

Which in turn KILLS the GOP.

That is exactly what they are trying to do. Buchanan is not a Republican, but the msm tries to make him out to be THE example of a Republican.

re: #190 Honorary Yooper

What I dearly want to know is why does every whack-job turn to anti-Semitism? I'd like to know why they hate Jews so much. It makes no sense to me as they seem like some of the best and nicest people in the world, IMHO.

/Just trying to wrap my head around how one could hate a group of people who have contributed so much good to the world.

As the Chosen People of G*d the Jews are target #1 for Satan. Target #2 is the Catholic Church.

/My opinion...

re: #131 realwest

Hey how come whenever I hit on Charles link or on Aloutte's link (and thank you for that!) I get an automatic "Printer Ready" display on my computer?!

It's the "Print this page" version.

Woo-hoo! Just received payment for my contribution this upcoming TV documentary.

This "zombie" persona is really starting to pay off!

They will keep Buchanon on TV in the same way they keep Anne Coulter on TV. Both are embarrassments.

Townhall sullies itself by welcoming the right's premier anti-Semite on its pages. Sean Hannity welcomes him often to his radio show. Even Townhall proponent Hugh Hewitt has never, to my knowledge, objected to Buchanan's presence at the Townhall site (though he doesn't have him on his show).

Buchanan is no different from David Duke except for the former's facade of respectability due to long-past political associations.

Here's an except from a piece I did for FrontPage comparing far-righters like Buchanan and Duke to far-leftists like Michael Moore and Ralph Nader, who all sound much alike:

The Old Right/New Left/Neo-Nazi Alliance
By Steven Zak
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, May 12, 2005

How much difference is there, really, between the far-Left, the far-Right, and overt white supremacists? How do the public stances of Michael Moore, Pat Buchanan, and David Duke compare? Proponents of both extreme views now think and sound so much alike, they sound like soulmates. Somehow these fringe characters have moved so far around the edges that they have arrived at the same territory, spouting identical positions in copycat rhetoric on such issues as Iraq, the broader War on Terror, and the Jewish state of Israel.

Their own words are the best evidence. Take their view of America's war against terrorists and Islamic fascism. The two camps, if they can even be distinguished as such, are rabidly antiwar in precisely the same, delusional fashion:

“There were no WMD's. There was no connection to 9/11. This war was a malevolent hoax.” - Llewellyn H. (“Lew”) Rockwell Jr. (“libertarian” head of LewRockwell.com)

“There is no terrorist threat in this country. This is a lie. This is the biggest lie we've been told.” - Michael Moore (leftist)

“Iraq had not attacked us, did not threaten us, did not want war with us, could not defeat us.” - Pat Buchanan (paleoconservative)

“There is no credible evidence that Iraq poses any real threat to the United States. Dozens of other nations have weapons of mass destruction.” - David Duke

But the extremists’ “pacifist” anti-Americanism just scratches the surface. Dig deeper and you’ll find that, for these fringe members, the current war only provides more proof of the cunning and manipulative nature of the Jewish race:

“It's all part of the same ball of wax, right? The oil companies, Israel, Halliburton.” - Michael Moore

“Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud.” - Pat Buchanan

“So, for whose benefit does America wage this war? The answer is Israel, Israel, Israel!” - David Duke

“The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington and meets with the puppet in the White House. He then goes down Pennsylvania Avenue and meets with the puppets in Congress ... It is time for the United States Government to stand up and think for itself.”
- Ralph Nader

“The Jews are particularly adept at seizing or insinuating themselves into strategic positions in our society where they wield power far beyond the extent of their numbers...We White people of America have done nothing so far which would frustrate the Jews’ expectations or their ambitions of becoming the world’s slavemasters.” - Neo-Nazi author and publisher Ernst Zundel (Canadian neo-Nazi)

“The warmongers anxiously want this war NOT to appear to be a result of the Israeli Fifth Column trying to strike down Israel's enemies one by one.” - David Duke (white supremacist/”former” neo-Nazi) ...

Here's the rest: [Link: frontpagemag.com...]

Wow. It takes a whole lot of cognitive dissonance to ignore literally millions of pages of evidence contradicting your theory. There's no telling where Pat got these ridiculous notions.

re: #261 zerodamage

They will keep Buchanon on TV in the same way they keep Anne Coulter on TV. Both are embarrassments.

Why is Anne Coulter an embarrassment?

re: #246 quickjustice

Buchanan conveniently omits the most important history to suit his own ends. Hitler exploited the appeasement mentality of the West over and over again to gain territory without war, against the advice of his own generals. It worked, adding to Hitler's credibility and discrediting the conservative German General Staff.

Buchanan's own anti-semitism is aptly illustrated in his apologetics for Hitler's invasion of Poland, where Hitler dressed up Jewish concentration camp inmates as German soldiers, and then murdered them, scattering their corpses around the Polish border. He then trumped up an accusation of Polish border aggression to justify Germany's and Stalin's simultaneous invasion. The Poles didn't have a prayer.

At the point, the British and the French, allied to Poland, had had enough, and declared war on Germany.

Buchanan is the modern day equivalent of Joe Goebbels. The Big Lie, anyone?

Buchanan's career should have been ended after his defense of Demjanjuk and his claim that Holocaust victims who claimed that there were gas chambers suffered from "collective delusions". The NY Post gave him the boot after that one. That Townhall still publishes him is disgraceful. I have emailed them about it. I am also sick of people like Hannity calling him a "friend". KNOCK IT OFF, SEAN!

I also picked up on this phrase:

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

Disregarding for a moment all of the historical nonsense that Buchanan writes, doesn't he at least have some basic logical reasoning? If you were running a country and you had to fight major wars, would you divert huge amounts of your train capacity to carrying Jews to the ovens, thereby slowing down your fortifications on the two fronts? The war, if anything, should not have caused the Holocaust but instead made it more difficult to carry out since there were competing pressures for the same resources.

When I use to work for the TSA, Pat Buchanan came thru my checkpoint one day. He autographed my membership ID card to the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy...as a proud member of the Jewish Tribe, I just tore up that autographed card and gladly deposited it into my circular file below my desk. May Pat Buchanan experience the same curse placed on the Kennedy Klan!

re: #41 Ben Hur

We *really* need BabbaZee back over here. She added so much to these discussions. Do you think Charles could figure something out with her? Maybe an autoalarm to her when these topics come up so she can come over an educate in her fabulously unique way?

This is just tragic. I used to like the articles from Townhall. I love listening to Hugh Hewitt, but aren't we all known by the company we keep?

Are they going to start entertaining Troofer theories next?

What started as telling truth in the face of a barrage of false propaganda from the left has become a circle of egotists. Truly saddening. :(

re: #208 zombie

They stayed Neutral, like Spain and Switzerland.

Irish troops fought in England's army. they had a famous tank division, the Irish Gaurds. FYI.

re: #180 MandyManners

What is this turd's ancestory?

From what I read his dad and grandfather were nazi lovers.
The poo didn't fall far from the sphincter.