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Obama Thinks He's Already President

Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:32:28 am PDT

Barack Obama’s new campaign logo expresses his ideals of hope and change with subtle symbolism and humility.

Kidding!

Actually, it’s an obvious knock-off of the Presidential Seal, and it might be illegal.

I’m no Latin expert, but I think the motto translates to roughly, “In truth, it is possible.” Or to use the vernacular, “Yes, we can.”

Considering that most Americans don’t speak Latin, and that possums are known for sleeping, having the word “possum” in there is ... unfortunate.

UPDATE at 6/21/08 10:35:35 am:

Here’s the Presidential Seal for comparison:

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1 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:33:40am

That is just unbelievable...

2 Pastorius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:34:13am

Red State ran a great column yesterday on why the Obama Seal is, indeed, illegal.

3 AK oilfield worker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:34:56am

POSSUMS and POOH BEARS for OBAMA!

4 Pastorius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:35:31am

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

Obama Seal is illegal

5 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:35:38am

If you do not bow down to the king, you are left to cling
to your religion and your guns.

6 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:35:46am

A fake seal for a fake candidate.

7 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:04am

Insane arrogance. Everything about this man screams trouble.

8 calvin coolidge  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:05am

I need his bobblehead doll. When does that hit the market?

9 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:16am

Hillary is Pissed!

10 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:16am

Just 'cause Zombie deserves the to be POTUS way more than obamassiah:
[Link: nodwick.humor.gamespy.com...]

11 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:22am

Mirages you can believe in.

12 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:34am

I think the kicker is here....

....for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

The symbol is pretty clearly not meant to convey an endorsement by the Bush White House. It's silly, embarrassing and presumptuous but not illegal.

13 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:36:49am

I love the quote by the Obama staffer when asked about the similarity.

Something to the effect of: Why? Because it has an eagle in it?

I will try to track down the actual quote.

14 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:37:04am

It's close enough so as to raise the question of whether it is a likeness to the Great Seal. And someone in his campaign should have known better than to put something like that up there. It's not as though they don't already have any number of other seals that they use on the podium - including all the warmed over communist/marxist crap.

15 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:37:18am

Charles - could you post a photo of the seal perhaps, within the thread post ?

16 missouri boy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:37:29am

My money is still on Hillary.

17 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:37:56am

Here's my seal.

18 Quilly Mammoth  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:38:16am

Is that Latin on there (Vero Possumus) saying "Changey Hopefulness?" or "Very Possum Like"?

19 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:38:26am
20 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:38:29am

Let's see, what else can he CHANGE?

21 Sizzlack  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:38:42am

Ahh nothing like the smell of an illegal knockoff in the morning....

22 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:38:45am

Well whatever works for the messiah. After all he is on the right side of history, the side of "change" and progress, and therefore can do nothing wrong or illegal.

/what an arrogant sh*t

23 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:39:12am
24 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:39:15am

Morning Charles! And did you notice the conspicuous abscence of red in that "seal" and the rather pastel blue he uses too?
Man, I'm so sick of this dude I can't begin to express how much.

25 Roentgen  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:39:23am

What is that thing he put in the middle? WTF. Looks like a piece of the front grill from an old Chrysler. Or an air vent. Maybe a bakery-style bread slicer?

26 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:39:39am

re: #23 ploome hineni

Heh.

27 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:39:43am

re: #23 ploome hineni

a throbbing seal?

Now that would be cool.

28 missouri boy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:39:56am

re: #19 ploome hineni

the ONLY reason, people will not suppost Obama

/disgusting


Wow! some how they got my picture!

29 Pastorius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:40:03am

#12 Kilgore Trout

The symbol is pretty clearly not meant to convey an endorsement by the Bush White House. It's silly, embarrassing and presumptuous but not illegal.


I think that is a fine line. The Seal is meant to work on people psychologically, giving them the subliminal impression that Barack is Presidential material, or perhaps, in a psychological sense, already the President.

No corporation would tolerate this blatant ripoff of their logo. Barack is certainly doing this for commercial purposes. He is attempting to become President, in other words, he is attempting to assume the power conveyed by the Presidential logo.

30 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:40:07am

re: #17 MandyManners

Here's my seal.

That seals nice shiny fur would make a nice jacket.

PETA sucks.

31 drogheda  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:40:17am

First thing I thought of when I saw that seal was that it was probably illegal. Forget where I last saw some stink made about it. Might have been with regard to one of those commemorative coin companies.

32 Wyatt Junker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:40:27am

Sorry this is OT, but...

Rampage and Forrest have words.

For like seriously.

33 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:40:34am
34 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:40:50am

That's not the seal I knew

35 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:41:54am

re: #14 lawhawk
Yeah and "someone in his campaign should have known better" is getting to be the meme of his entire campaign and certainly his website.

36 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:41:58am

charles

could you get a less anauseating photo of al gore ?.


everytime I look at his mug I want to hurl

37 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:42:08am

re: #30 HDrepub

That's a baby seal!

*whack*

38 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:42:43am

re: #32 Wyatt Junker

I dinged you down. First of all, way O.T.

Second - blog pimping

Third - fights? really ?

39 addison  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:42:51am

re: #24 realwest

[...] And did you notice the conspicuous absence of red in that "seal" and the rather pastel blue he uses too?


This from the man who said we should move beyond "blue and red states".

Man, I'm so sick of this dude I can't begin to express how much.


I was never enticed by him--not even for a minute--and every passing day yields him that much more unsavory--both as a person and a politician.

40 opnion  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:42:52am

Hmmm, pride goeth before the fall.

41 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:43:10am

re: #19 ploome hineni

the ONLY reason, people will not suppost Obama

/disgusting

Pencil-necked geek!

42 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:43:29am

Hell, let's have Bush to leave now so our savior can start a few months early! After all, He already has a cool and hip and changey-change kinda seal!

43 Quilly Mammoth  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:43:31am
44 Wyatt Junker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:43:47am

This reminds me of the junk mail I get when a credit card company puts a bunch of fake, early Americana iconography on the frunnuh their envelope. Suff like a coat of arms, a hawk, a few stars and a scales of justice. Oh yeah, and then they use a brown envelope too with a fake sticker on it. That's the clincher.

45 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:43:58am

re: #37 MandyManners

That's a baby seal!

*whack*

OUCH, don't hit me no more!

46 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:44:36am
47 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:01am

re: #37 MandyManners

That's a baby seal!

*whack*

Unfortunately, those poor seal hunters have had a shortened season due to unusually thick sea ice that extends further than usual....

48 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:05am

He has another eagle in this symbol.

re: #25 Roentgen

I think the "O" with the red stripes symbolizes the lowering of the American flag.

49 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:13am

re: #18 Quilly Mammoth

It translates - more-or-less - as "Yes, we can."

Empty.

50 opnion  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:25am

re: #38 mama winger

I dinged you down. First of all, way O.T.

Second - blog pimping

Third - fights? really ?

Hello Mamma Winger. Are you ready for some baseball?
Sox pictcher John Danks has a clothes pin on is nose due to the unpleasant odors of Wrigley.
Just wondering, if there may be a public health violation?

51 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:39am

re: #47 psyop

Unfortunately, those poor seal hunters have had a shortened season due to unusually thick sea ice that extends further than usual....

What happened to global warming?

52 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:43am

This is meant to distract McCain supporters. Lets not make this more of an issue than it is.

The bigger issue is this man is the most leftist politician in the country with no proven record of accomplishment.

He is weak.

53 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:43am

re: #43 Quilly Mammoth

Linky no worky... 404 error

55 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:45:59am

re: #39 addison Me either, but when I said sick, I meant as in throw up sick every time I hear or see him or his "campaign staff's" screw ups.
Just absolutely nauseating.

56 Wyatt Junker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:46:03am

re: #38 mama winger

I dinged you down. First of all, way O.T.

Second - blog pimping

Third - fights? really ?

Aw gosh darnit, you shoulduh read it mama. OT's are okay every once in awhile. Lighten up and smell the off topic dislocation.

57 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:46:03am

re: #15 mama winger

Charles - could you post a photo of the seal perhaps, within the thread post ?

Wouldn't he be guilty of the same crime if he did that ?

58 livefreeor die  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:46:27am

re: #51 Desert Dog

What happened to global warming?

It couldn't explain the record setting cold this winter so now it's "climate change".

59 snowcrash  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:46:32am

It all blue and white, kind of U.N.ish. in color.

60 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:47:13am

re: #50 opnion

HA!

I'll answer you later on - I can't go OT after I just complained about it now, can I ? LOL

61 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:47:27am

re: #59 snowcrash

It all blue and white, kind of U.N.ish. in color.

YES - that's it.

62 livefreeor die  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:47:56am

re: #59 snowcrash

It all blue and white, kind of U.N.ish. in color.

THAT's what it reminded me of. I couldn't place it.

63 Tilly  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:01am

18 USC Sec. 713 ...
(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

( Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.


Let the fining begin and 6 months in the pokey might be a lot of fun for this election to!

He could be like Senator Bilbo (D-MS) and run for office from jail!

64 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:05am

re: #57 Shug

Wouldn't he be guilty of the same crime if he did that ?

Hmmm. I wouldn't thinks so - isn't it part of a news story now?

65 kansas[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:07am
66 itellu3times  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:08am

I think a pair of ostriches facing each way, would be appropriate.

67 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:16am

re: #52 Racer X
"with no proven record of accomplishment." There, fixed that for you!

68 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:24am

re: #62 livefreeor die

THAT's what it reminded me of. I couldn't place it.

Me too !

69 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:25am

re: #51 Desert Dog

What happened to global warming?

No, no, you see, all the cold around the world is BECAUSE of global warming.

Indeed, any weather, at any time, at any part of the globe is because of GW. I don't even think we would have weather if not for GW.

/sarc

70 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:48:54am

His glorious seal is a little weak in Latin phrases, I suggest one that is much more accurate: ego puto in nusquam

71 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:02am

I wonder if there's a youtube of The Ferryland Sealer?

72 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:04am

re: #56 Wyatt Junker

:)

73 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:05am

re: #59 snowcrash

It all blue and white, kind of U.N.ish. in color.

Excellent point. I wonder if it was intentional...

74 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:32am

re: #52 Racer X

This is meant to distract McCain supporters. Lets not make this more of an issue than it is.

The bigger issue is this man is the most leftist politician in the country with no proven record of accomplishment.

He is weak.

..and he appears to be winning based upon the late bounce Newsweak poll. The word ain't gettin' out about this guy.

75 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:35am

re: #64 mama winger


maybe.

do I need a tinfoil hat ?

76 livefreeor die  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:38am

re: #63 Tilly

So as I read this, whoever made it and whoever displays it can all go to jail for 6 months.

Where did I stash that popcorn....

77 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:40am

Come on now....this is just a diversion from the real issues, like Obama's racist church and pastor that he didn't know about for 21 years, or Tony Rezko helping Barry and Michelle do some house-hunting or Barry's to-be-determined all out military assault on Pakistan or his comments about Middle-America bitterly clinging to their guns and religion or Barry's inexperience or leftist voting record during his short time in office.....

/remind me again what the appeal of this douchebag is?

78 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:49am

re: #66 itellu3times

I think a pair of ostriches facing each way, would be appropriate.

Or a few white flags and some vaseline? (sorry, couldn't resist)

79 kansas  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:49:59am

re: #51 Desert Dog

What happened to global warming?

The Goracle fixed it.

80 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:50:05am

re: #70 Desert Dog

That's a little rude, I think.

81 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:50:12am

he's doing this before he's even potus. imagine what he will do if he is elected.
he might just crown himself KING.

82 Genosaurer  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:50:46am

How's the saying go? Don't count your chickens before they come home to roost?

83 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:50:53am
84 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:51:02am

re: #79 kansas

The Goracle fixed it.

So we can go back to expanding our Carbon Footprints again?

Time to buy a Hummer (maybe two!)

85 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:51:09am

re: #67 realwest

"with no proven record of accomplishment." There, fixed that for you!

Thanks! It needed fixin.

How are you doin today?

86 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:51:29am

re: #81 nyc redneck

Even as Napoleon seized the crown from the Pope's fingers and crowned himself?

87 livefreeor die  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:52:00am

re: #81 nyc redneck

PETA is going to be really pissed when he puts on his ermine lined robes.

88 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:52:03am

re: #75 Shug

maybe.

do I need a tinfoil hat ?

Could be. Ask the cat.

89 itellu3times  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:52:23am

re: #17 MandyManners

Here's my seal.

"Where's the seal"? from Horsefeathers, at around 1:20 - 1:50.

Watch the whole thing!

90 abolitionist  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:52:35am
91 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:52:41am

re: #86 Dianna

Even as Napoleon seized the crown from the Pope's fingers and crowned himself?

Newsweek, MSNBC, the NYT, CNN and most of the rest of the media will be there at his coronation, throwing rose pedals before his feet

92 kansas  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:52:50am

re: #84 psyop
Al has already gone back to expanding his carbon ass print.

93 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:03am

“We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid,” Obama said at the fundraiser. “They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black? He’s got a feisty wife.”


[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Racist=feisty.

94 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:09am

re: #74 unrealizedviewpoint

..and he appears to be winning based upon the late bounce Newsweak poll. The word ain't gettin' out about this guy.

Exactly.

BUT, those on the fence about him probably could care less about his use of the seal. They need to know where he stands on issues, what his voting record is, and what damage he WILL do to this country.

95 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:17am

his handlers and puppet master have inflated his ego way too much.
he's going to fck up.

96 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:30am
97 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:35am

re: #83 ploome hineni

who just left the pick up long enough to swill some beer at the bar b que before pissing against the tree

heh :) These are my people !

98 Indefatigable  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:42am

The arrogance of this man would astound me if it weren't par for the course for liberals.

99 kansas  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:53:51am

re: #95 nyc redneck

his handlers and puppet master have inflated his ego way too much.
he's going to fck up.

It won't matter.

100 Quilly Mammoth  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:00am

Let's try this again, it's posted on my blog I was trying to put it up without "blog pimping" but can't get the addy right;(

101 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:00am

re: #61 mama winger

Blue is the color of Islam. Really. Mosques are blue.

102 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:04am

It's illegal, so he'll have to stop using it, but there is no way he'll be charged with any sort of crime. Too bad- I think it would be pretty funny to have a Presidential candidate charged with a crime.

Anyways- I see the gaffs just keep coming and now he'll have to toss his seal under the bus.

103 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:28am

I'm seriously thinking of packing a couple of sharpie markers - one in black and the other in silver. Anytime I see one of those BHO '08 stickers, I will be very tempted to either add a "N" over his logo or place a diagonal line through the "O" ØBAMA...

ELECT OBAMA - Bring the War Home (to your front door)

104 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:31am

re: #85 Racer X
Hey my friend, I'm feeling ok today - angry (about Obama and the effin' 95 year old Austrian war criminal still living in freedom in Austria even though he's #4 on the list of wanted War Criminals from WWII and some other things) as usual, too! LOL!
How are you doing today?

105 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:39am
106 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:55am

re: #87 livefreeor die

PETA is going to be really pissed when he puts on his ermine lined robes.

and he will outlaw the wearing of purple.
(who care's, only hippies will be hung. no, beheaded, for wearing it.)

107 Purple Prose  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:54:56am

From hysterical, half-hypnotized Obamessiah-worshipping masses to not-so-subliminal claims to authority even before being elected: Is this guy getting his political strategy from Adolf's playbook?

108 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:55:02am

re: #101 LindaMarie

Blue is the color of Islam. Really. Mosques are blue.

They are? I didn't realize that.

109 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:55:13am
110 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:55:13am

re: #93 VegasRick

“We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid,” Obama said at the fundraiser. “They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black? He’s got a feisty wife.”


[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Racist=feisty.

He's kinda got it right, but HE is the one scaring the hell out of 1/2 of the population, not McCain.

111 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:55:38am

re: #107 Purple Prose

From hysterical, half-hypnotized Obamessiah-worshipping masses to not-so-subliminal claims to authority even before being elected: Is this guy getting his political strategy from Adolf's playbook?

Maybe not the same playbook. But the same author.

112 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:55:52am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I think the kicker is here....

The symbol is pretty clearly not meant to convey an endorsement by the Bush White House. It's silly, embarrassing and presumptuous but not illegal.


The "Bush White House" is not the "government of the United States."

113 Tilly  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:56:17am

re: #77 Fenway_Nation

Come on now....this is just a diversion from the real issues, like Obama's racist church and pastor that he didn't know about for 21 years, or Tony Rezko helping Barry and Michelle do some house-hunting or Barry's to-be-determined all out military assault on Pakistan or his comments about Middle-America bitterly clinging to their guns and religion or Barry's inexperience or leftist voting record during his short time in office.....

/remind me again what the appeal of this douchebag is?

No this is the cherry on the cake of all of that...lmfao

Just one more thing to show what an ego driven dumb ass he is!

114 Tigger2005  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:56:37am

Obama's comment in Florida about how his opponents are going to attack him on his race was so disgustingly vile. I thought he might just possibly take the high road and leave this filth to his subordinates, but no, this is what he IS. A lousy, nasty, despicable creep, a racist cretin. I lost all respect for him long ago, but now he has dug right through the bottom and come out the other side. I also no longer have an iota of respect for anyone who still supports him. Give them a chance and they are going to tear this country apart.

115 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:56:50am

re: #92 kansas

Al has already gone back to expanding his carbon ass print.

It is true.

Since he obviously isn't worried about crispifying the earth anymore, I don't think I should worry, either.

116 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:57:14am

re: #65 kansas

Why say that?

117 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:57:28am

re: #8 calvin coolidge

I need his bobblehead doll. When does that hit the market?

They are still working on the air foil problem.

118 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:57:29am

re: #92 kansas

Al has already gone back to expanding his carbon ass print.

Is it just me or does Al have a really sweaty, greasy appearance these days? Most of the pics I see his hair looks as if it is smothered in Vaseline pomade.

119 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:57:52am

re: #93 VegasRick Nevermind the "Fiesty Wife" did Obama himself actually say that McCain would say: "And did I mention he’s black?" ?
Hey Barack Hussein Obama - who's injecting RACE into this presidential contest, hmmm?

120 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:57:52am

re: #114 Tigger2005

Give them a chance and they are going to tear this country apart.

Then we must work together and not let that happen.

Keep your eyes on the prize.

121 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:57:59am

re: #99 kansas

It won't matter.

it might. don't give up.
no matter how the msm shills for him, his behavior is insulting and impressing fewer and fewer people.

122 Ojoe  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:58:08am

Won't wear a flag pin,
Will mock the seal,

A serious lack of

Re Re Re

Respect

Just a little bit

(Not a little bit, not at all.)

123 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:58:30am
124 stevieray  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:58:38am

I think the Obama campaign is playing a sly game. They have decided to toss out annoying, but ultimately meaningless red herrings. They hope that the conservative side of the blogosphere will froth and scream at the small things, so when the big things come along, the Obama campaign can roll their eyes and claim, "There they go again."

Save your wrath for the big things, treat the "bait" issues [like this one] with mockery. Just laugh and point at the Democrats when they trot out goofy ideas like this one -- the best weapon against pretentious bufoonery is derision, not anger.

125 markie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:58:45am

re: #118 HDrepub

It's Vitalis. It doubles as alternative fuel for his Escalade.

126 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:58:48am

re: #13 psyop

I love the quote by the Obama staffer when asked about the similarity.

Something to the effect of: Why? Because it has an eagle in it?

I will try to track down the actual quote.

Odd that they kept the 'right wing' eagle.

127 LoFlyer  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:59:23am

Obama; false symbolism you can believe in!

128 Psaturn  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:59:50am

Someone here was asking what was the center of Obama's seal, inside the eagle's body. It is supposed to be a big O and inside a sun rising over a land (looks like a farmland I think). It somewhat messianic in nature and supposed to be effective subliminally. Many cultures did use circles in their symbols, example the mandalas from India and also you got the peace symbol with the upside down distorted cross...and the ying and yang symbol....

I thought there was something wrong with Obama's new seal and thanks to everyone who pointed out this was 'illegal'. It makes sense why it would be illegal...you do not want to dilute the Presidential seal and or confuse anyone...

129 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:00:12am

re: #104 realwest
It is tooooo freakin hot!

Damn you Global Warming!™ Damn you to Hell™

130 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:00:13am

re: #101 LindaMarie

Blue is the color of Islam. Really. Mosques are blue.

Sorry it is green. The color of Islam. My mistake.

131 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:00:29am

re: #125 markie

It's Vitalis. It doubles as alternative fuel for his Escalade.

I knew it had to be one of those 1950's era hair preparations.

132 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:00:38am

re: #101 LindaMarie

I thought green was Islam's color?

133 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:00:39am

re: #25 Roentgen

Grill from an Edsel.

134 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:00:39am

Let's face it, Obama could stomp a puppy to death, use an American Flag to wipe his ass, and the Obamatrons and their willing kool aid drinkers in the MSM would not flinch or lose one ounce of respect for their guy.....He can do just about anything and it won't matter...to them, at least.....the question is, will enough voters see through the smoke screen and sugar coated facade to see what really lies beneath?

135 pat  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:02am

Obama is like the Clintons when they walked in the White House. Surrounded by the rejected, the immature,nuts, crooks and marginals. With the added flavor of racist loons and black nationalists.

136 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:16am

re: #124 stevieray

I'm not angry- I am a bit amused by it though. I think it shows what a seriously unimaginative mind the creator of the obama seal possesses.

137 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:22am

The bird in his seal is The Giant Duck of Peace

138 Desert Dog  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:24am

re: #128 Psaturn

Someone here was asking what was the center of Obama's seal, inside the eagle's body. It is supposed to be a big O and inside a sun rising over a land (looks like a farmland I think). It somewhat messianic in nature and supposed to be effective subliminally. Many cultures did use circles in their symbols, example the mandalas from India and also you got the peace symbol with the upside down distorted cross...and the ying and yang symbol....

I thought there was something wrong with Obama's new seal and thanks to everyone who pointed out this was 'illegal'. It makes sense why it would be illegal...you do not want to dilute the Presidential seal and or confuse anyone...

That's not an "O", it's a big fat ZERO.....it sums up what he really stands for, NOTHING

139 missouri boy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:24am

re: #130 LindaMarie

Sorry it is green. The color of Islam. My mistake.

Blood is the real color of iSLam.

140 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:36am

re: #95 nyc redneck
"he's going to fck up." Are you kidding me? He's already so fck up, with Wright, Ayers, Rezco, a wife who said on videotape that she's ashamed to be from America, refusing to limit himself to Public Funding of his campaign, "Typical Angry White People" and etc. etc. ad nauseum.
But no one NO ONE in the Democratic Party has the balls to stand up to him and say "NO MORE DISGRACING US, the Democratic Party or this NATION.
Fuck 'em all.

141 Tigger2005  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:48am

re: #135 pat

Obama is like the Clintons when they walked in the White House. Surrounded by the rejected, the immature,nuts, crooks and marginals. With the added flavor of racist loons and black nationalists.

And CAIR.
And Environazis.
And...

142 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:49am

re: #124 stevieray

I think the Obama campaign is playing a sly game. They have decided to toss out annoying, but ultimately meaningless red herrings. They hope that the conservative side of the blogosphere will froth and scream at the small things, so when the big things come along, the Obama campaign can roll their eyes and claim, "There they go again."

Save your wrath for the big things, treat the "bait" issues [like this one] with mockery. Just laugh and point at the Democrats when they trot out goofy ideas like this one -- the best weapon against pretentious bufoonery is derision, not anger.

Good points, all.

143 Psaturn  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:01:53am

re: #114 Tigger2005

Obama's comment in Florida about how his opponents are going to attack him on his race was so disgustingly vile. I thought he might just possibly take the high road and leave this filth to his subordinates, but no, this is what he IS. A lousy, nasty, despicable creep, a racist cretin. I lost all respect for him long ago, but now he has dug right through the bottom and come out the other side. I also no longer have an iota of respect for anyone who still supports him. Give them a chance and they are going to tear this country apart.

I saw that on Drudge Report and forwarded the article with the Subject titled, now who is playing the race card?

I don't think any Republicans played the race card at all...

Remember, the race issue that was first raised in this election was during the Democratic Primary amongst DEMOCRATS!

144 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:02:05am

re: #137 Shug

The bird in his seal is The Giant Duck of Peace

I thought it was a turkey.

145 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:02:10am

re: #40 opnion

Hmmm, pride goeth before the fall.

Op - You have developed a lisp.

146 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:02:10am

re: #112 wolfie

Except temporarily.

147 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:02:17am

re: #114 Tigger2005

You'd think that a post-racial candidate as Obama and his acolytes claim to be would simply ignore the talk of race and focus instead on the issues, but they don't.

They always come back to race - whether overtly or implicitly.

They talk of how racist it is not to vote for him, which itself is a racist and hateful thing to say.

Consider that there are literally hundreds of reasons not to vote for Obama. I'll start with just my top 10:

10: No experience at all.
9: No policy achievements.
8: No foreign policy experience.
7: No knowledge of the Middle East
6: Tax and spend political hack.
5: No experience.
4: Socializing health care.
3: Repeal of Bush tax cuts - in effect a massive tax hike.
2: Opposes drilling for more oil domestically.
1: No experience at all.

I know, I've repeated myself a few times there, but that's the point - he has no experience. Not a single legislative accomplishment, and even his fellow Senators have shaken their heads in disbelief as Obama tries to take credit for their work when he was only tangentially involved.

He's a hack politician who has managed to blind most everyone to the reality that he's nothing more than what we've seen in politics for ages.

148 Sunlight  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:02:48am

re: #102 Sharmuta

It's illegal, so he'll have to stop using it, but there is no way he'll be charged with any sort of crime. Too bad- I think it would be pretty funny to have a Presidential candidate charged with a crime.

Anyways- I see the gaffs just keep coming and now he'll have to toss his seal under the bus.

"It's not the seal I knew...."

149 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:02:53am

re: #107 Purple Prose
Yes.

150 Inquisitive  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:03:00am

Doesn't look like Obama fans are happy with the new seal either!
What;s with the seal
Re: The New Seal (5th one down)
The New Seal

151 Tilly  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:03:10am

Fred Thompson to Pick McCain's Judges
Bill Dupray, The Patriot Room
June 20th, 2008


In a McCain administration, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson would play a dominant role in selecting Supreme Court nominees and other judicial appointments, sources close to the McCain campaign and to Thompson tell us.

And why is Fred suddenly everywhere? These sources say that the agreement between McCain and Thompson is behind Thompson’s resurgence in the national media in recent weeks. In a McCain campaign conference call with reporters yesterday on last week’s Supreme Court decision on terrorist detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Thompson — without claiming such status — played the role of a prominent McCain adviser.

And on the McCain front we have adviser news while Obama fields questions about the legality of his logo...lmfao

152 Psaturn  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:03:14am

re: #138 Desert Dog

That's not an "O", it's a big fat ZERO.....it sums up what he really stands for, NOTHING

Well...that too....

But zero usually has the slanted slash in the middle, no? or it is elongated vertically? Like 0 as opposed to o.

153 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:03:19am

re: #128 Psaturn

The center of his seal is no different than his current logo.

154 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:03:36am

re: #128 Psaturn

It is supposed to be a big O and inside a sun rising over a land (looks like a farmland I think)


It's the same logo without the colors as is beside his name on his official website. Look for yourself.
Obama's official campaign website

155 kansas  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:03:42am

Re: 116 MandyManners

Because for a college and law school graduate and candidate for President of the United States, Obama seems to have neither a grasp of history or of the law. Anything else explain this? He is not qualified.

156 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:05am

re: #114 Tigger2005
a thousand dings up if I could!

157 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:08am

Expect him to throw the logo under the bus soon.

"This is not the logo I knew"

158 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:15am

re: #147 lawhawk

A thousand updings. Maybe a million.

159 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:32am

re: #109 ploome hineni

green is the color islam

You are right - for some reason they tend to be blue here. Not only the domes with the blue tiles but the lights on them are often blue.

160 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:33am

re: #140 realwest

Fuck 'em all.

*Stands and applauds*

161 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:40am

re: #144 Sharmuta

I thought it was a turkey.

Obama's turkeys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,are coming home to roast!

162 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:47am

re: #126 debutaunt

Here is one article with the actual quote by Bill Burton of the Obama campaign. You have to scroll down a bit. For those to lazy to click a link, here is pertinent text:

The logo is filled out with "Obama for America" at the top, and his website address at the bottom. Asked about the similarities, Obama spokesman Bill Burton replied, "Just because it has an eagle?"

163 missouri boy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:52am

Obama is just a puppet of the "Chicago Machine".....with Obama, comes his real "Masters"...imho

164 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:04:58am
165 pat  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:05:11am

re: #143 Psaturn

I saw that on Drudge Report and forwarded the article with the Subject titled, now who is playing the race card?

I don't think any Republicans played the race card at all...

Remember, the race issue that was first raised in this election was during the Democratic Primary amongst DEMOCRATS!

History will be rewritten on that point. Watch for the editorials begging the Republicans to unite with the Democrats and rid themselves of the racists that infect their party.

166 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:05:18am

You're just saying it's illegal because Obama is black, you racists!

/channeling Reuters

167 Ojoe  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:05:20am

zerObama

168 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:05:26am

re: #153 lawhawk

The center of his seal is no different than his current logo.

Yes, you noticed too.

169 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:05:26am

re: #161 Shug

Obama's turkeys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,are coming home to roast!

Soon to be road kill under the bus.

170 LoFlyer  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:05:55am

Are those arrows in the Obamaeagle(TM)'s right claw? Or is it barbed wire?

171 FQ Kafir  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:06:01am

re: #129 Racer X

Damn you, Gore! (Comic strip)

172 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:06:02am

I can hear Keith Olberman typing his copy right now

Right. wing. extremists. complaining. seal. no WMD's. Bush lied.
aaaaah

173 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:06:24am

re: #169 Sharmuta

Soon to be road kill under the bus.

And in today's issue of Bus and Driver....

174 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:06:51am

re: #151 Tilly

If this is true, McCain is a lot smarter than I thought.

175 Charles  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:07:11am

Added the image above...

176 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:07:22am

re: #170 LoFlyer

They sure are, but know that they aren't going to be meant for US national defense, but rather to be used against his opponents (and someone should photo edit a bus in there instead.... much more appropriate).

177 Macker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:07:42am

re: #43 Quilly Mammoth

Linky no worky!

178 kansas  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:07:54am

re: #116 MandyManners


Oh yes, please refer to #147. Tell me how else Obama got where he is. Or were you referring to the proctology comment in which I meant to say he would be poking around on your backside without having the proper training but since excellence doesn't matter would be doing it anyway. Then I made reference to how he is going to going to stick it to us when he gets elected.

179 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:08:15am

re: #177 Macker

Linky no worky!

Bad link! No clicky!

180 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:08:17am

re: #170 LoFlyer

Are those arrows in the Obamaeagle(TM)'s right claw? Or is it barbed wire?

Asparagus spears.

181 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:08:24am

"Vero Possumus"?

Um- no. No you can't. It's illegal.

182 LoFlyer  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:08:32am

re: #171 FQ Kafir

Damn you, Gore! (Comic strip)

Man, that cartoon was small, but worth the squint! LOL!

183 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:08:40am

re: #164 ploome hineni

I'm glad you said that. I cannot believe the number of people who think Thompson's something special.

184 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:09:15am
185 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:09:20am

Got this off the internets. Thanks al.

Barry-gram


My fellow Americans:

As your future President I want to thank my supporters, for your mindless support of me, despite my complete lack of any legislative achievement, my pastor's relations with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan dictator Moamar Quadafi, or my blatantly leftist voting record while I present myself as some sort of bi-partisan agent of change.

I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal behavior somehow qualifies me for the Presidency after 8 years of claiming Bush's youthful drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is a beacon of hope shining over a sea of political posing.

I would also like to thank the Kennedy's for coming out in support of me. There's a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though JFK started the Vietnam War, his brother Robert illegally wiretapped Martin Luther King, Jr. and Teddy killed a female employee with whom he was having an extra marital affair . And I'm not going anywhere near the cousins, both literally and figuratively.

And I'd like to thank Oprah Winfrey for her support. Her love of meaningless empty platitudes will be the force that propels me to the White House.

Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or achievement, but because I make people feel good. Voting for me causes some white folk to feel relieved of their imagined, racist guilt.

I say things that sound meaningful, but don't really mean anything because Americans are tired of things having meaning. If things have meaning, then that means you have to think about them.

Americans are tired of thinking. It's time to shut down the brain, and open up the heart. So when you go to vote, remember, don't think, just do. And do it for me.

Thank You.
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.


/

186 FQ Kafir  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:09:32am

re: #182 LoFlyer

You can click to enlarge.

187 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:09:54am
188 Tilly  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:09:56am

re: #164 ploome hineni

conflating TV with reality

just what we need, some Law and Order actor picking Supreme court judges


He has more experience than Obama! and he is very conservative which many people like about him...

189 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:10:00am

re: #164 ploome hineni

conflating TV with reality

just what we need, some Law and Order actor picking Supreme court judges

He served Bush in the same capacity.
Thompson is a lawyer, former prosecutor, and former US Senator.
Acting was a second and late career.

190 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:10:53am

re: #181 Sharmuta

It annoys me to see it. Granted, the balance of the phrase is better using 'vero', or 'truly', but it still annoys me.

191 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:11:30am

re: #57 Shug

Wouldn't he be guilty of the same crime if he did that ?

Using the Seal of the POTUS, the Great Seal, etc. for non-commercial, non-endorsement purposes is lawful.

You may, for example, have a picturebook of past presidents with the Seal of the President in it. An encyclopedia article about presidents may have it.

You may not market a "president action figure" toy with a likeness of the President's Seal without permission. You may not market a book of matches with the Seal.

Since it is hard to know what stance one's enemies may take, prudence may be in order here.
Before I supported a "throbbing Seal", I rejected it.

192 realwest  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:11:37am

re: #183 Dianna I think he wants Fred to pick the judges cause he's seen him on Law and Order!
Can't think of any other reason.

193 ROP?LOL  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:08am

I got the Presidential Seal
I'm up on the Presidential podium

194 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:10am

re: #173 lawhawk

And in today's issue of Bus and Driver....

Too funny!
And in today's issue of bus and driver...
I will not forget that one. Priceless!

195 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:19am

What does Veros Possumus mean?

Chicago Possums for Obama?

196 Charles  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:26am

re: #124 stevieray

I think the Obama campaign is playing a sly game. They have decided to toss out annoying, but ultimately meaningless red herrings. They hope that the conservative side of the blogosphere will froth and scream at the small things, so when the big things come along, the Obama campaign can roll their eyes and claim, "There they go again."

Save your wrath for the big things, treat the "bait" issues [like this one] with mockery. Just laugh and point at the Democrats when they trot out goofy ideas like this one -- the best weapon against pretentious bufoonery is derision, not anger.

Uh, I haven't noticed any frothing and screaming.

197 missouri boy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:45am

Did Obama ever produce a real birth certificate?

198 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:45am

re: #140 realwest

"he's going to fck up." Are you kidding me? He's already so fck up, with Wright, Ayers, Rezco, a wife who said on videotape that she's ashamed to be from America, refusing to limit himself to Public Funding of his campaign, "Typical Angry White People" and etc. etc. ad nauseum.
But no one NO ONE in the Democratic Party has the balls to stand up to him and say "NO MORE DISGRACING US, the Democratic Party or this NATION.
Fuck 'em all.

lol, no i'm not kidding you. his fck ups will be even worse now. he thinks he's a fcking king and he is going to be showing his royal ass so much now. and of course the democrat party is hanging in w/ him, but i predict the voters of this country will not elect him. (i'm praying too).
i agree the democrat party is a disgrace. hijacked by assh*le leftist 60's freaks. now grown up and having learned nothing.

199 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:12:56am

re: #191 David IV of Georgia

That's it! That's what Obama IS.
A "presidential action figure" !

200 Purple Prose  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:13:04am

"Vero possumus" actually means "In the truth of Islam, we are able."

201 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:13:53am

re: #192 realwest

I think he wants Fred to pick the judges cause he's seen him on Law and Order!
Can't think of any other reason.

Fred Thompson? Please read something about him.
He helped pick Roberts and guided the confirmation thru the Senate.

202 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:14:03am

re: #196 Charles

Uh, I haven't noticed any frothing and screaming.

Right Charles. We discuss things most of the time in an adult manner. Without the caps lock.

203 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:14:27am

re: #200 Purple Prose

I thought it meant, "Screw Whitey."

204 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:14:46am

re: #195 mama winger

What does Veros Possumus mean?

Chicago Possums for Obama?

Stop playing your gotcha politics! He is just trying to memorialize his pet possum named Vera!

205 TalkinKamel  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:14:49am

If McCain's smart, he'll be taking advantage of all the Obama scandals to plot out his own campaign.

(I don't know if he's really smart enough for that. As I said in the thread just above this one, this is going to be a very interesting campaign.)

206 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:14:56am

re: #195 mama winger

It means, "Truly, we are able."

Or, Englished: "Yes, we can!"

207 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:14:58am

re: #203 Wyatt Earp

I thought it meant, "Screw Whitey."

ahahahahaha !

Now THAT I will upding ! :)

208 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:15:15am

re: #195 mama winger

What does Veros Possumus mean?

Chicago Possums for Obama?

VERO POSSUMUS = Yes we can
vero...as in verily, truly, indeed....Latin had no specific word for YES

209 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:15:42am

re: #197 missouri boy

Did Obama ever produce a real birth certificate?

He doesn't need to, he is Obama the messiah, and needs no other explanation for his existence.

/dripping with sarcasm

210 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:15:44am

re: #204 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Stop playing your gotcha politics! He is just trying to memorialize his pet possum named Vera!

You guys are killing me here! I am having bladder issues. LOL!

211 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:16:07am
re: #78 Desert Dog 6/21/08 9:49:49 am

re: #66 itellu3times

I think a pair of ostriches facing each way, would be appropriate.

Or a few white flags and some vaseline? (sorry, couldn't resist)

Add one of those French flags (the tricolor they used to have before they went to all white - or is it yellow?) to show how his vision transcends petty things like national sovereignty.

212 stevieray  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:16:35am

re: #196 Charles

Uh, I haven't noticed any frothing and screaming.

I wasn't making any accusations, only expressing a warning.

213 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:16:43am

re: #207 mama winger

Much obliged, ma'am! :)

214 wolfie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:16:44am

re: #195 mama winger

What does Veros Possumus mean?

Chicago Possums for Obama?

On second thought, it might be a ploy to win the Appalachian vote!
Tricky.

215 opnion  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:16:50am

This guy is a nose bleed. He must think that he applied for a job listed as "No experience necessary."
I really insist that the U.S President should be at least as pro American as the President of France

216 Mongerel  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:17:39am

This is damn scary...

Consider all the elements on the original seal, the history and symbolism, and consider what has been changed...

1) The snake (enemy) has been removed from the eagle’s beak. We will no longer confront our enemies.

2) The eagle is not a bald eagle. This type of eagle was often prominently displayed in the crests of European countries. Even Hitler used it in his banners and artwork. Our unique symbol has been replaced with a European symbol.

3) Red, the color of blood and bravery has been erased from the field.

4) The shield, symbolizing defense, with the stripes of the thirteen colonies, united under the blue banner, is gone. It has been replaced with Obama’s own personal symbol.

5) All references to the 13 colonies... the olives, inner stars and stripes on the shield are gone. The history of thirteen independent colonies uniting as one nation, has been erased.

6) “Out of many, one” has been removed, replaced with Obama’s slogan.

7) The dark blue, the background for the stars, representing states rights has been replaced with a soft pastel blue.

8) The 50 stars, representing the 50 states, have disappeared.

So consider what has changed...

The individual states have been removed, our history erased, our symbol of power and unity neutered, and only One Government remains, with the messiah’s symbol in the center.

This isn’t a laughing matter. This is a disgusting, unholy abomination.

--written by dominigan, over at Hot Air.

217 itellu3times  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:17:50am

re: #135 pat

Obama is like the Clintons when they walked in the White House. Surrounded by the rejected, the immature,nuts, crooks and marginals. With the added flavor of racist loons and black nationalists.

And a few billion buckadingdongs from George Soros.

Both Bubba and Obumbba had/have solid money from Hollywood dingbats, that's another similarity.

218 TalkinKamel  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:17:52am

re: #151 Tilly

Yes, that's interesting. As I said in my earlier post, I think McCain should take advantage of this brief respite, while everybody's watching Obama, to plot his campaign, pick vice-presidents, and so on.

(Whether he's smart enough to take advantage of this is, of course, another question altogether.)

219 Charles  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:18:08am

I'm no Latin expert, but I think it translates to roughly, "In truth, it is possible."

Considering that most Americans don't speak Latin, and that possums are known for sleeping, the word "possum" in there is ... unfortunate.

220 Maximu§  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:03am

Ah, I see Obama's minions are playing with the Latin language eh? Perhaps this phrase would fit Obama's personality.


Magnus Vanidici

221 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:12am

re: #210 mama winger

You guys are killing me here! I am having bladder issues. LOL!

How can you think about your bladder at a historic moment like that ! Vera will never forgive you! I'll call Keith Olbermann and he'll make you worst person in the world!

222 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:17am

re: #150 Inquisitive

Seal the Deal=Spam Spam Spam

They just have to say it more than once. ADD perhaps.

223 TalkinKamel  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:19am

Vote for McCain!

Nobody thinks he's the slightest bit messianic!

224 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #184 ploome hineni

blue is natural camouflage

minarets are observation towers and mosques are artillery and weapons warehouses

Not always - not all. In fact few.
Let's not argue about this please. Some perhaps - I will agree - In some places. No - I won't even go there.
I don't like them, loud and intrusive.
You paint too broad a brush. And I don't like Islam and find myself defending it because you are so inclusive in your statements.
Aggh!

225 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:50am

re: #216 Mongerel

Great post.

226 TalkinKamel  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:19:54am

Vote for McCain!

He's not backed by George Soros.

(And Arianna Huffington doesn't like him.)

227 snowcrash  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:20:01am

I thought it meant "truth possum", I like my translation better.

228 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:20:18am

re: #223 TalkinKamel

Vote for McCain!

Nobody thinks he's the slightest bit messianic!

AHAHAhahaha I can't stop laughing !

229 itellu3times  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:20:44am

re: #180 HDrepub

Are those arrows in the Obamaeagle(TM)'s right claw? Or is it barbed wire?

Asparagus spears.

And arugula on the right.

230 genexer  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:20:52am

I can see his (Cult of) Presidency

231 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:20:55am

re: #227 snowcrash

I thought it meant "truth possum", I like my translation better.

I think I shall start referring to Obama as the Truth Possum. I like it!

232 Racer X  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:21:16am

re: #185 mama winger

That is a classic!

Sending it now to my address list.

233 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:21:22am

re: #214 wolfie

On second thought, it might be a ploy to win the Appalachian vote!
Tricky.

The possum is not held in high esteem by this ol' hillbilly. A possum is usually the first thing you see crawling out of a cow carcass bloating in the sun. They are carrion eaters when the opportunity is there.

234 opnion  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:21:53am

re: #197 missouri boy

Did Obama ever produce a real birth certificate?

It really does not matter. Lightworkers are not born in a mortal sense.
They are celestial you see and they just are

235 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:22:05am

re: #231 mama winger

I think I shall start referring to Obama as the Truth Possum. I like it!

That's actually a great nickname. Might become as popular as The Lurch in 2004.

236 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:22:07am

re: #232 Racer X

That is a classic!

Sending it now to my address list.

It's good isn't it? A troll posted it over on the DNC blog. Hahaha!

237 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:22:25am

re: #219 Charles

"Vero" is usually translated as either "truly" or "indeed"; "possumus" is "we are able" or "we can", from "posse". It's an auxiliary verb.

So the question is, we can what?

Damned emptiness.

238 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:22:36am

re: #159 LindaMarie

Green as a color stands for:

Latrines

Illness

Queasy stomach

239 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:22:39am

re: #197 missouri boy

Did Obama ever produce a real birth certificate?

Good question - odds are it is Mohammad Obama

240 mama winger  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:22:59am

re: #235 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

That's actually a great nickname. Might become as popular as The Lurch in 2004.

We are groundbreakers here at LGF!

Defeat the Truth Possum '08!

241 stevieray  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:23:11am

re: #214 wolfie

On second thought, it might be a ploy to win the Appalachian vote!
Tricky.

Brunswick stew! Yumm!

242 Purple Prose  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:23:23am

"Vero possumus" translates as "In truth, we are able."

So it's not quite, "yes, we can." If they wanted "yes, we can," they should have used an icon featuring Bob the Builder, whose motto is "Can we fix it? Yes, we can." This would have complemented nicely their Winnie the Pooh foreign policy platform. Cartoons for a cartoon candidate.

243 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:23:48am

re: #227 snowcrash

I thought it meant "truth possum", I like my translation better.

"truth possum", it is.

244 RickZ  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:24:03am

re: #106 nyc redneck

and he will outlaw the wearing of purple.
(who care's, only hippies will be hung. no, beheaded, for wearing it.)

Hey, now! Nothing wrong with wearing a dark purple tie with a light grey suit. You live in NY, like myself, so you should know (better).

/Fashion police

245 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:24:10am

re: #219 Charles

I'm no Latin expert, but I think it translates to roughly, "In truth, it is possible."

Considering that most Americans don't speak Latin, and that possums are known for sleeping, the word "possum" in there is ... unfortunate.

Heh... for all that, they went with a latin phrase that has the unintended effect of making you think that he'll sleep through a 3am phone call.

246 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:25:25am

re: #119 realwest

Nevermind the "Fiesty Wife" did Obama himself actually say that McCain would say: "And did I mention he’s black?" ?
Hey Barack Hussein Obama - who's injecting RACE into this presidential contest, hmmm?

Right, we typical white people can't get over the fact that he is black. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is the most liberal senator there is and his policies suck.
/idiots

247 rw in san diego  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:25:54am

I think the 'seal' is a silly-ass, wussy, pathetic imitation of the real thing.

Come to think of it....it's rather appropriate.

248 Bosch Fawstin  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:27:12am

Could it be that Obama has spent more time running for president than he has being a Senator? His rush for the most powerful seat in the world is just one of the things that makes me worry about this guy. Even he would argue, if he were honest, that he's no where near qualified.

249 Teacake!  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:27:57am

A man who believes he is above the law who wants to be president - I hope this gets more publicity and that he does some jail time.

250 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:28:18am

re: #244 RickZ

Hey, now! Nothing wrong with wearing a dark purple tie with a light grey suit. You live in NY, like myself, so you should know (better).

/Fashion police

do you mean burgundy? or easter purple?
lol. i do like certain shades of purple but hey , it's not me who will outlawing the color.

251 Dianna  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:29:17am

Housework calls.

Take care!

252 indythinker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:29:28am

Obama's seal does not have the colors red, white, and blue.

Obama, a crooked Chicago politician, is hiding behind this unpatriotic seal to distract people from his record as a wimp on foreign policy and immigration.

253 ladycatnip  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:29:35am

First he bestows sainthood upon himself with the halo pics, now he's appropriated for himself the office of the president. Next he'd like us to capitalize the 'h' in himself.

254 itellu3times  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:30:38am

re: #243 nyc redneck

"truth possum", it is.

With a tad more flexibility, we could translate it as, "Yes, I'm a rat".

255 indythinker  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:31:48am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I think the kicker is here....


The symbol is pretty clearly not meant to convey an endorsement by the Bush White House. It's silly, embarrassing and presumptuous but not illegal.

In fact, Obama is trying to convey that he is "presidential." The seal is absolutely illegal under US law. Barack Obama is violating US law.

256 Josephine  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:32:02am

I'd love to see him interviewed by Dame Edna. She'd knock him down a peg or two.

"Hello, possums!"

257 Miss Molly  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:32:04am

Just when you think Barack can not get any more arrogant he suprises everyone yet again. I hope everyone sees the seal because there are millions of people who will not approve . And this will remind once again of all of the problems he has, people he associates with, flip flops he makes again and again.

The thought of him in the White House makes me shudder. I try to imagine the corruption he will bring but my imagination is just not capable of seeing that large a picture.

258 Teacake!  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:32:32am

I'd like to see people refusing to show their birth certificates when applying for lost IDs and such and say, if Obama doesn't have to show his to be the President of the USA, why should I have to prove anything to the government?

259 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:32:46am

Although the Veritas Oppossum motto is great,

I prefer "Vomitoria ad sinisterum."

260 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:32:57am

CNN has the translation, and a very interesting take on it...seems to me that they are actually not all that fond of Hussein, if I read it right, and the comments are also not what I would expect of CNN readers, in a lot of cases. Maybe people are awakening from their long winter nap, and have removed their eye blinders, and taken their finger out of their ears?

261 psyop  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:33:00am

re: #240 mama winger


Defeat the Truth Possum '08!

LOL!

Excellent rally cry! Maybe it will catch on...

262 orcuttg  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:35:52am

Uh, he can't even get his Latin right. I think he wants to say "truly we can" Possumus does mean "We can" but his adverb is wrong. It should be "vere". As in "Surrexit Christus vere", never "Surrexit Christus vero".
Not a big deal? Well, I think it shows a bunch of liberal know it alls trying to impress us, and only showing their ignorance.

263 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:36:55am

re: #259 David IV of Georgia

Although the Veritas Oppossum motto is great,

I prefer "Vomitoria ad sinisterum."

The vomitoriums are on the left.

264 Purple Prose  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:37:38am

re: #243 nyc redneck

"truth possum", it is.

It sounds like virulent possum, which sounds like a rabid possum, which suggests netrooters - they at the mouth and are rabidly active on their computers at night.

265 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:38:00am

re: #219 Charles

I'm no Latin expert, but I think it translates to roughly, "In truth, it is possible."

Considering that most Americans don't speak Latin, and that possums are known for sleeping, the word "possum" in there is ... unfortunate.

Under Obama, we will be protected by rolling up in a ball and our own quills will keep us safe, until the threat of war has safely passed.

266 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:38:48am

re: #221 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

How can you think about your bladder at a historic moment like that ! Vera will never forgive you! I'll call Keith Olbermann and he'll make you worst person in the world!

Worst bladder in the world!

267 Purple Prose  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:40:51am

How about Bigus D... Never mind.

268 least  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:40:54am

re: #124 stevieray

Def'ny agree . . I know there are some folks here at LFG who have some mad skilz when it comes to funny stuff.

In all the WWW, the Lizardim are up to the task.

'Specially when the Obamessiah and his folk (the circular firing squad) are almost parodies in and of themselves.

269 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:45:03am

The Obamessian Seal is crying out for a Photoshop gag. With a possum.

Like this one: EEK!

(Hat tip: Hellodare)

270 CapeCoddah  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:46:39am

Hi folks, gee, he's not too conceited is he? Obama is just a train wreck waiting to happen. I can hear the engineer frantically blowing the whistle now...

271 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:46:54am

re: #265 debutaunt

Under Obama, we will be protected by rolling up in a ball and our own quills will keep us safe, until the threat of war has safely passed.

Umm, that is the behavior of a hedge hog. An opossum plays "possum" or acts like it is dead in hopes something won't devour it. An opossum can be an odoriferous animal too, especially when it has been eating carrion.

272 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:48:01am

"Truly, I am a weasel."

273 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:49:35am

re: #271 HDrepub

Umm, that is the behavior of a hedge hog. An opossum plays "possum" or acts like it is dead in hopes something won't devour it. An opossum can be an odoriferous animal too, especially when it has been eating carrion.

At least hedgehogs put up something a formidable, if passive, defense...

Heh.

274 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:50:20am

re: #272 Dar ul Harb

Roughly translated, of course.

275 Josephine  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:50:46am

re: #193 ROP?LOL

I got the Presidential Seal
I'm up on the Presidential podium

Fist-bop me like a rock
Obama
Fist-bop me

276 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:51:54am

re: #256 Josephine

We saw Dame Edna in Toronto some years ago! My sides still ache every once in awhile.

For you!

277 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:53:03am

re: #275 Josephine

re: #193 ROP?LOL
I got the Presidential Seal
I'm up on the Presidential podium

Fist-bop me like a rock
Obama
Fist-bop me

Obama don' take my Kodachrome away...

278 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:55:46am

re: #270 CapeCoddah

And the fireman just keeps throwing on the coal.

279 FishFearMe  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:56:47am

Obama Campaign Slogan: The Truth Possum '08...The Roadkill to the White House!

280 HDrepub  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:57:24am

re: #270 CapeCoddah

Hi folks, gee, he's not too conceited is he? Obama is just a train wreck waiting to happen. I can hear the engineer frantically blowing the whistle now...

They ought to put that engineer in jail, jail, jail
Sam Bush, singing "Bringin' in the Georgia Mail"

281 Daisy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:58:38am

Obama, Afro-Centrist and black separatist enthusiast, would find "e pluribus unum" objectionable.

I suppose one could say he threw the e-pluri-unum under the bus.

282 jainphx  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:59:45am

The Democrapic party in their hatred for the Clintons, did every thing they could to eliminate them. Now their stuck and they know it, and have no where else to turn, so they must at all costs back Oshamamassiah. Any thing he says or does will be spun and lied to. Spit

283 Josephine  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:59:49am

re: #238 FamHistoryGuy

Green as a color stands for:

Latrines

Illness

Queasy stomach

Envy

284 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:00:12am

I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out, but the stars and puffy white things on the POTUS seal make it look like the eagle sustained a severe skillet-bonk on the head while toasting marshmallows for himself and 12 friends...

285 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:01:10am

re: #271 HDrepub

Umm, that is the behavior of a hedge hog. An opossum plays "possum" or acts like it is dead in hopes something won't devour it. An opossum can be an odoriferous animal too, especially when it has been eating carrion.

Dang, I was thinking of a porcupine.

286 Daisy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:02:46am

re: #283 Josephine

Envy

Money

287 swampy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:04:09am

"Vero Possumus"?

All Floridians know what the reference is. It's the gun totin', faith clingin' racists over in Vero Beach having a Possum stew dinner on the dirt fundraiser for McCain.

288 Josephine  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:04:26am

re: #276 NY Nana

Thanks, Nana! I will have to watch it later (my husband's listening to some music now).

I love Dame Edna; you're so lucky to have seen her in concert! I've got her autobiography: it's a hoot!

289 TheBugMan1956  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:06:49am

Now that's an "Obamanation"..... :0)
And what we'll be if he's elected. An "Obama Nation"

290 Josephine  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:07:25am

re: #277 Spiny Norman
re: #275 Josephine
re: #193 ROP?LOL

I got the Presidential Seal
I'm up on the Presidential podium

Fist-bop me like a rock
Obama
Fist-bop me

Obama don' take my Kodachrome country away...

(slight amendment)

291 Pastorius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:07:48am

Vero possumus mean "Yes, we can" in Latin, as I understand.

292 Tamron  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:08:22am

Off-Topic, but VERY INTERESTING.

Yesterday CNNMoney ran this news item, saying that as much as 40% of all home mortgage contracts might be invalid, simply because THE BANKS LOST THE PAPERWORK, and thus cannot legally prove that you have any obligation to pay them!

Evidently this came about because the paper changed hands so many times during the expansion of the financial bubble, the paperwork got lost in the frenzy.

Omigawd. This looks like heaven, for the ambulance-chaser shysters.
.

293 MrC_5150  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:08:48am
294 Pastorius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:10:03am

#248 Bosch Fawstin,
Nice to see you, mi amigo.

295 Daisy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:11:06am

Truth in advertising: even in his stolen counterfeit Presidential Seal, Obama conveys his distain for the Stars and Stripes by replacing it w/what looks most related to the former Japanese Imperial rising sun. Or maybe the eagle has a case of irritable bowel syndrome.

296 Pastorius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:12:26am

As I understand it, the circle in the logo is supposed to represent two things:

1) the "O" in Obama's name

2) the sun rising.

In this sense, he is appealing to Pagan mythology. The Sun rising is a kind of Pagan Messianism. Don't you think?

297 Josephine  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:15:12am

re: #295 Daisy

The American eagle undergoing vivisection under a microscope.

/Cue CSI disco lab music as they try to discover where America went wrong.

298 Quintus_Arius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:17:13am

Occasionally I have to brag. I had this up yesterday.

Obama Retools The Great Seal of the United States

299 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:18:36am

re: #275 Josephine

Fist-bop me like a rock
Obama
Fist-bop me

Yikes it just flashed into my brain..

The new Presidential Possum Seal!

/shiver

late - time for bed I am hallucinating

300 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:20:08am

re: #288 Josephine

Enjoy! It was one of the funniest nights in a theatre we have spent. There were a number of Dame Edna videos, BTW.

We saw 'The Royal Tour', IIRC, at the Royal Alexandra Theatre...not totally sure re the theatre, as Toronto has so many!

301 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:20:49am

re: #295 Daisy

I would go with irritable bowel syndrome.

302 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:22:13am

re: #293 MrC_5150

Wow! Great job.

303 LindaMarie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:24:06am

re: #292 Tamron

I don't beleive it. No way. Maybe 1 percent on a good day - or rather a bad day for banks

304 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:27:01am
305 TMRiddle  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:30:00am

I like the seal. It's nice looking. Dunno if it's illegal. I don't much care; I'm a policy person - policies that are significant. This election's pretty much turning into a wash so I suppose it's at least humorous.

But I do like the seal. Then again. I have a thing for avian creatures and I'm particularly fond of eagles and falcons. And the imaginary phoenix - even before HP ;).

At least he included the arrows. The left has been trying to pussify the Great Seal by removing them in various instances.

306 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:32:07am

It really means "go back to sleep America"...

307 TMRiddle  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:32:55am

re: #296 Pastorius

Actually, that's pretty interesting. Sun worship is pretty much paganism, yes - but it's filtered down into the Abrahamic religions as well. It's too bad Dan Brown pretty much made a mockery of this.

I believe Obama's symbol has some pretty interesting similarities to one of the other loser's symbols. I forget who. Dukakis or McGovern. One of those llamas.

308 salmon dave  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:35:13am

Delusions of grandeur? You decide.

Here's a sneak preview of Obama's acceptance speech (also plagiarized from a fellow traveler).

309 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:37:24am

re: #249 Teacake!

A man who believes he is above the law who wants to be president - I hope this gets more publicity and that he does some jail time.

He won't get any jail time for it if it comes down to it... one or more of his staffers mebbe...

310 Wendya  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:37:32am

re: #24 realwest

Morning Charles! And did you notice the conspicuous abscence of red in that "seal" and the rather pastel blue he uses too?
Man, I'm so sick of this dude I can't begin to express how much.

It's been pointed out recently that Obama seems to be gravitating towards Blue Eagles.... as in the Blue Eagle Campaign of the National Recovery Administration. His "fight the smears" website also has the eagle from the Presidental Seal... in NRA blue plastered on the website.

311 BenJeremy[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:46:59am
312 Former Belgian  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:48:51am

I just showed the logo to my wife, a lifelong Democrat.

She was horrified.

We both agreed zer0bama and the people behind him have no shame at all.

313 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:50:04am

re: #298 Quintus_Arius

Occasionally I have to brag. I had this up yesterday.

Obama Retools The Great Seal of the United States

The Seal issue was discussed at some length in the comments yesterday (starting here), as well as at other blogs, like RedState, who originally made the somewhat dubious claim that it is illegal.

So, ah, sit down, Waldo!

;^)

Now, if you'd come up with a clever Photoshop parody yesterday, that would be worth bragging about.

314 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:51:14am

re: #291 Pastorius

Vero possumus mean "Yes, we can" in Latin, as I understand.

Well loosely, but literally it means, yo possom is so fat.

315 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:52:24am

re: #304 ploome hineni

the American shield which makes up the body of the eagle

as been replaced by 3 crescents one inside the other

That's part of the Obama08 logo.

"A new day rising over America!"

::GAG::

316 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:54:40am

re: #300 NY Nana

Enjoy! It was one of the funniest nights in a theatre we have spent. There were a number of Dame Edna videos, BTW.

We saw 'The Royal Tour', IIRC, at the Royal Alexandra Theatre...not totally sure re the theatre, as Toronto has so many!

Netflix has some of her dvds.

317 Tamron  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:54:55am

re: #303 LindaMarie

I don't beleive it. No way. Maybe 1 percent on a good day - or rather a bad day for banks

LindaMarie, did you actually see the CNNMoney video, and are you a more highly qualified expert about this matter than University of Iowa Law Professor Katherine Porter, who did the study?

Here's a re-post of yesterday's CNNMoney link, stating that 40% of all existing mortgages in the country do not have legal basis for a contract:

[Link: money.cnn.com...]
.

318 jemima  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:55:53am

That's not an eagle on Obie's seal, it's a vulture.

319 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:56:41am

The Lightworker and his seal

Get a load of the caption

Instead of the Latin 'E pluribus unum' (Out of many, one), Obama's says 'Vero possumus', rough Latin for 'Yes, we can.' Playing possum with the truth

320 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:57:04am
321 Shug  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:57:48am

re: #319 Shug

The Lightworker and his seal

Get a load of the caption

Instead of the Latin 'E pluribus unum' (Out of many, one), Obama's says 'Vero possumus', rough Latin for 'Yes, we can.' Playing possum with the truth

Link fixed

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

322 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:58:28am

re: #314 debutaunt

Well loosely, but literally it means, yo possum is so fat.

Poor spelling kills another smart-ass remark.

323 Fasternu426[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:59:50am
324 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:03:02pm

re: #316 debutaunt

Netflix has some of her his dvds.

Meet 'Dame Edna', aka Barry Humphries, an Aussie. ;)

Watching him? You forget it is a male. He is so outrageous! Thanks for the heads up. I will probably order them to watch.

325 Teacake!  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:07:17pm

This guy is an imbecile. He had no idea that the company he kept for years had a twisted side and he isn't aware of federal law? I would not be comfortable having a president who is unable to size up who is trustworthy to deal with.

I am looking forward to live debates with McCain since he won't have a prompter to read off.

I've heard some of his off the cuff answers on Rush and the guy is a babbling idiot!

326 Bourgeois Reactionary  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:08:36pm

The wisdom of the most famous possum ever:

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

- Pogo

327 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:09:17pm
having the word “possum” in there is ... unfortunate.

Once again, Charles puts his tongue in cheek.

328 Fasternu426  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:10:46pm

In truth there are Possums!

Lorem ipossums!

Novo Ordo, Possums!

Et Tu Possum?

Didn't Doc Holliday say to Johnny Ringo in Tombstone:
Credat Iudaeus Apella, non possums!

329 Quintus_Arius  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:11:32pm

re: #313 Spiny Norman

You win this time. We can't shine enough light on this guy.

I'm chipping away at his lead in the polls. The more people see him up close and personal, the more they will have second thoughts. The Democrats must be nuts! Or vice-versa.

330 bill-tb  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:11:44pm

Anyone else see the extreme arrogance of this? Proving once again Comrade Obama doesn't have much a historical background about America does he.

Comrade Obama is already staffing his brown shirt brigades ... under the guise of get out the vote. Some of the imbeciles showed up at a BB local store trying to convince people to vote for the comrade, without much success it would seem --- most just turned and walked away when they saw the Obama sign.

331 jokono  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:13:34pm

Illegal or no, I would call this the action of a presumptuous prick.

332 Hillbilly Geek  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:20:35pm

Vero Possumus:

"In truth, we is a possum"

as we should know: they're mighty good eatin'

We have met the enemy, and he is Pogo!

333 Hillbilly Geek  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:23:53pm
334 RedPepper  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:24:36pm

This seal is clearly a work-in-progress.

Version 2.0 will discontinue the eagle and substitute a roosting chicken.

Or perhaps, a turkey vulture ...

335 donbmcd  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:29:02pm

This is so wonderful! It represents Obama's true position, the Presidential Seal with a Sun Setting on America!

We need to recognize that America's best days are past, and that only through international coperation can we all survive!

We cannot go it alone, we need to surrender to the position that we are partof the world, not it's leader, the UN should lead the world by concensiou not by our rule. We NEED to give .1% of our GNP to the US to fight global poverty no matter the cost.

President (For Life) Obama !


;)

336 GGMac  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:34:29pm

His husseinness, his arrogantness, this high priest of the religion of obamadiddly needs to brought down to earth...and the looney left needs to be reminded that their constant harping about 'separation of church and state' applies to ALL religions.

And if they don't grasp that he's become their RELIGION, they're even less mentally competent than has been evident up to now.

I know, I know...'competency' applies in NO degree to the left.


This guy is beyond belief - he and his 'royal purple'-wearing wife. And we thought the Clintons had kingly/queenly aspirations!

This 'seal' is enough to gag a maggot.

337 Sabnen  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:38:36pm

It looks like something from the 1930's when Roosevelt was creating new government agencies by the dozens, WPA, CCC etc...

Better yet it looks like some kind of Soviet propaganda art from the '30's. Yes that's it!

338 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:39:34pm

Hussein should have just stayed with the Official Seal of the Demonrat Party.

339 avspatti  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:41:58pm

re: #95 nyc redneck

his handlers and puppet master have inflated his ego way too much.
he's going to fck up.

When?

340 avspatti  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:49:40pm

re: #118 HDrepub

Is it just me or does Al have a really sweaty, greasy appearance these days? Most of the pics I see his hair looks as if it is smothered in Vaseline pomade.

Al is just a bit ugly. He needs EYEBROWS! LOL

341 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:52:23pm

re: #324 NY Nana

Meet 'Dame Edna', aka Barry Humphries, an Aussie. ;)

Watching him? You forget it is a male. He is so outrageous! Thanks for the heads up. I will probably order them to watch.

I've never seen him, but added the dvds to my list.

342 lazypadawan  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 12:53:43pm

The arrogance of the Dalai Bama is simply stunning.

343 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:00:55pm

re: #337 Sabnen

It looks like something from the 1930's when Roosevelt was creating new government agencies by the dozens, WPA, CCC etc...

It's got a definite "New Deal" aesthetic going (see the first logo).

344 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:06:51pm

re: #339 avspatti

When?

over and over again.
and it will add up.

345 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:08:11pm

btw, he is a a roll over and play dead marsupial.
he's not even a regular mammal.

346 carbon footprint  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:19:11pm

Wow, what an arrogant asshole. What's going to be next? If this guy (afro-marxist) loved his country 1/4 as much as he loves himself, he would be the best patriot evar!

347 GGMac  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:25:18pm

re: #113 Tilly

No this is the cherry on the cake of all of that...lmfao

Just one more thing to show what an ego driven dumb ass he is!



THE Tilly?

If so, I honor you.

And whether or not you're THE Tilly, welcome to the Football Field!

348 NY Nana  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:33:20pm

re: #341 debutaunt

I've never seen him, but added the dvds to my list.

Google the videos under 'Dame Edna'.....here are some: you will get an idea of how funny he is! He used to be on TV here, as a guest...the official website.

349 avspatti  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:35:13pm

re: #283 Josephine

Envy

Saudi Arabia

350 GGMac  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:39:19pm

re: #137 Shug

The bird in his seal is The Giant Duck of Peace

just poop!

351 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:39:33pm
352 avspatti  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:39:41pm

O's eagle is fat. Its arrows are dull. It looks bloated. Hmmm.

353 avspatti  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 1:47:10pm

re: #344 nyc redneck

over and over again.
and it will add up.

It is my fervent hope that you are correct. But so far . . .

354 LeonidasOfSparta  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:08:18pm

lmao, Charles. I love you-- with all due respect, ofcourse, and nothing personal.

I read the "possumus" word and thought, between resounding chuckles, how ironic the Latin phraseology he chose, since possums plays at dead and BHussein plays at intelligent.

355 GGMac  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:20:06pm

re: #239 LindaMarie

Good question - odds are it is Mohammad Obama

Or, possibly, "Barry Dunham", as his mama wasn't happy to learn her paramour/husband already had a wife back in Kenya.

Food for thought.

356 RaiderDan  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:20:33pm

re: #216 Mongerel

This is damn scary...

Consider all the elements on the original seal, the history and symbolism, and consider what has been changed...

1) The snake (enemy) has been removed from the eagle’s beak. We will no longer confront our enemies.

2) The eagle is not a bald eagle. This type of eagle was often prominently displayed in the crests of European countries. Even Hitler used it in his banners and artwork. Our unique symbol has been replaced with a European symbol.

3) Red, the color of blood and bravery has been erased from the field.

4) The shield, symbolizing defense, with the stripes of the thirteen colonies, united under the blue banner, is gone. It has been replaced with Obama’s own personal symbol.

5) All references to the 13 colonies... the olives, inner stars and stripes on the shield are gone. The history of thirteen independent colonies uniting as one nation, has been erased.

6) “Out of many, one” has been removed, replaced with Obama’s slogan.

7) The dark blue, the background for the stars, representing states rights has been replaced with a soft pastel blue.

8) The 50 stars, representing the 50 states, have disappeared.

So consider what has changed...

The individual states have been removed, our history erased, our symbol of power and unity neutered, and only One Government remains, with the messiah’s symbol in the center.

This isn’t a laughing matter. This is a disgusting, unholy abomination.

--written by dominigan, over at Hot Air.

Mongrel. This may be the truest thing ever written on this blog. Obama has altered a revered symbol of the United States for his own purposes. You may indeed be right that on each level there is a hidden message. Your points 1-6 are dead on. Others on this blog have added a seventh, the predominance of U.N. blue. Not a coincidence.

StevieRay at #124 has some good points as well, perhaps indeed this Obama baiting us, but I really really doubt that. No candidate wants this as a distraction and guaranteed, on Monday, he will have a HELLISH week trying to explain this in the press, not to mention the question over whether he has illegally copied the Great Seal.

I'll be the first to say this.

This may be the Dean Scream of 2008.

Obama is looking more and more like the Manchurian Candidate all the time.

357 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:28:44pm

At this rate, I'm betting on bigger campaign mistakes before November.

358 billy hank  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:32:16pm

"Vero Possumus" - an alternative and probably, for Obama's shape shifting policies, more apt translation would be, "In Truth, we are possums!" Considering that the 9/1 Truthers are closely aligned with Obama can I amend the excellent Truth Possum suggestion with Truther Possums.

If Obama is elected, the world will laugh at the feckless American Truther Possums because they "play dead at home and get killed on the road."

359 RaiderDan  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:39:54pm

Actually, I'm amending my Dean Scream moment, and thinking Obama's Great Seal may be closer to this

360 MrC_5150  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:42:14pm
361 Maltboy!  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:45:29pm

Is it me or does the bird lean to the left just a little? :)

362 eaglewingz08  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 2:50:07pm

I thought that possums play dead at the first sign of danger. Very apropos of the Obamanation's campaign. I also thought that there's no such thing as race, scientists have disproved any genetic basis for claims of race in the past fifty years. Third, repubs ran Michael Steele and Bobby Jindel for office in the past two years, one African American, the other with a funny name and Indian. Where were the racist canards used by the repubs in those campaigns? If the Obamanation wanted to put things to rest, he would have shown how much love he had for his father and his father's family in his new video ad. Instead he sweeps them under the bus and only portrays his WHITE relatives. Who is the racist Obamanation?

363 LC LaWedgie  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 3:09:19pm
Posted by Tim @ 2:50 PM Sat, Jun 21, 2008

I think it should say, "obama IS america". The presidential hopeful is a icon of what america is all about. A person of any background can grow up prepared with nothing but education, hope, and the knowlege that he or she can do anything. That is what american life is all about. It's all up to us and we'll get what we choose. Will we choose a war mongor and the continuation a heiarchy of the rich and red? Or blaze a new path of peace into the future with change and true blue america?

That heiarchy of knowlege makes my head hurt.

364 PeggyU  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 3:30:16pm

Wow. egObama strikes again.

365 LizardAbroad  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 3:31:57pm

Etiam, sumus possum.

The question is clearly inferred, and therefore the affirmative response "etiam". Possum is a state of being: to be able.

Now write is 100 times or I'll cut your balls off.

366 LizardAbroad  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 3:36:54pm

But actually a simple "Possumus" would be best in this case.

"Non potestis"

367 big L  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 3:46:00pm

124 stevieray- Right! watch out for the red-herrings to waste our time. But it would be good if the GOP had a hatchet man or woman that would put the screws to this and pull a bit of ridicule too. Teasing, laughing,belittling would all be good and enrage the Obamites.

368 satan sidekick  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 3:51:02pm

re: #102 Sharmuta

HA HA HA. Now his bus has an official seal. What an arrogant a-hole. I am growing sicker and sicker of this flim flam man.

369 Wild Knight  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 4:16:56pm

Yep, Charles is right. Vero possumus = In truth/verily we can.

370 carlitos  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 4:41:09pm

Mongerel,
interesting point about the European eagle. I thought the eagle head looked a little ... reptilian maybe.

371 srmoss  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 5:17:05pm

On Google:

Results 1 - 10 of about 17,000 for Obama, seal, arrogant, pathetic, offensive. (0.08 seconds)

More coming I'm sure.

372 happyface  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 6:05:18pm

Big deal. Every campaigner has his own seal- right? Well, no. But this is truly a big deal over nothing.

Of course BHO's entire campaign has been about nothing but we can hope for a change to something more substantive.

But this is less than nothing. If anything I think it is cute and mildly creative. Way high quality for BHO and his normal public relations.

If he wins and continues to use it instead of the Presidential Seat, then we'll have something to talk about. If we'll be allowed to.

And the BHO seal should have little jug handles, to represent his ears, port and starboard.

373 stanlef  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 7:46:41pm

Notice that the shield has been replaced by a pile of paperwork. Is it the Nasty Note we will send if attacked or a copy of the Communist Manifesto?

/will it matter?

374 carray  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 8:12:34pm

So he subbed the red, white, and blue for a rising sun (or is it an Islamic full moon), and replaced the eagle with a chicken? Classic Obama!

375 ypnxjkb  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 8:17:45pm

"VERO POSSUMUS" means when poked will play dead.

376 winston06  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 8:47:49pm

Hussein O is a danger to the U.S

377 bj  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 8:47:56pm

re: #375 ypnxjkb

"VERO POSSUMUS" means when poked will play dead.

ROFLMAO. Road kill ala Carl Hiaasen? Scary.

378 Ben F  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:11:12pm

The Obama for President campaign symbol instead of the chevron that is in the Great Seal and all of its official variants?

"Yes We Can" in latin, NOT inscribed on a ribbon held in the eagle's beak?

www.barackobama.com on the periphery?

This graphic is designed to communicate, not to mislead.

Stick to the real issues. There's plenty enough to write about there. Leave the pseudo-legalistic garbage to the loony left.

379 Ariel  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:18:07pm

Shouldn't the seal have olive branches in both sides?

380 brandnew  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 9:27:06pm

I am late to this party, but nobody yet has commented about how right-slanted the graphics are. It's as if an acolyte penetrated the Obama graphics team.

Yes, the eagle tilts his head to its right towards the olive branches in its talons, traditionally favoring war over peace; but the stars are misaligned, and the body of the eagle is tilted to the viewer's right.

381 A.W.  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:06:10pm

As a lawyer, I will say that this is probably legal.

As a citizen, it is low-class, though. It just makes it easier to vote for mccain.

382 Jim C.  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 10:15:38pm

First, we're supposed to have an "epiphany" and vote for Obamessiah. Now he's already posing as president?

Barack, meet Hubris. And right behind him is Nemesis.

The good part is he's pissing off his gullible liberal supporters. Other than that, this is NOT going to end well.

383 Optimizer  Sat, Jun 21, 2008 11:16:42pm

re: #308 salmon dave

Delusions of grandeur? You decide.

Here's a sneak preview of Obama's acceptance speech (also plagiarized from a fellow traveler).

Actually, I think you're pretty close. I saw an article from back in March that made an argument for Obama being a classic example of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This just seems to confirm that, for me.

384 scalleywag  Sun, Jun 22, 2008 8:15:41am

Just proves he can change anything he wants. heh. I hope he keeps on changing his mind and his logos so voters will see he's not the change we really need.

385 federale86  Sun, Jun 22, 2008 8:50:43am

Well, all we need now is an agressive Assistant United States Attorney. Calling Patrick Fitzgerald. Additionally, what about that gift of $600k assiting in the purchase of a mansion in Chicago I heard about? Any ethics complaint on that either in the Senate?

386 MAOZ (Middle-Aged Of Zion)  Sun, Jun 22, 2008 11:26:14am

Late to the party (as usual), and I haven't read through all 385 or so comments. So if someone else mentioned this already, I apologize. But I just wanted to point out that his Latin inscription translates roughly as "Veritable Pile-Of-Sh...."

(...well, maybe not exactly....)

387 rusty_armor  Sun, Jun 22, 2008 3:07:58pm

" Am I blue, am I blue . . . ? "

388 Seerak  Sun, Jun 22, 2008 6:39:57pm

Certain primitive cultures believe that if you eat from the corpse of your vanquished enemy, you take on some of his abilities and powers.

I guess Obama burped this up after he'd fully digested Hillary and her campaign.

389 onthow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:16:16am

"Yes we can." Ah, like "yes we can" make this country into a socialist utopia, and "yes we can" fix our corrupted, broken souls. If only we elect the Obamessiah, we will finally, for the first time in history, be able to circumvent human nature and those pesky laws of economics. Thank you oh Great Teleprompter-Reading Lawyer of Honolulu. Thank you.

Hopechange!

390 Abu Kuffar  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 8:48:36am

Just wait for the Seal go down the momry hole!


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