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Obama Throws Mainstream Media Under the Bus

Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:10:11 am PDT

Sure enough; after browsing through the editorial pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Chicago Tribune today, it looks like the honeymoon is over.

Obama’s announcement Thursday that he would become the first candidate to opt out of the public financing program for the general election was a big deal for some of the nation’s most influential newspaper editorial boards, which have long been ardent champions of campaign finance reform and which had thought they’d found a kindred spirit on the issue.

Friday morning, scathing editorials in many top broadsheets characterized Obama’s move as a self-interested flip-flop, dismissed his efforts to cast it as a principled stand and charged that Obama wasn’t living up to the reformer image around which he has crafted his political identity.

The scolding could mark a turning point in what has been, on balance, fawning treatment of Obama, an Illinois Senator and the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, on editorial pages.

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1 snowtravel  6/21/08 10:11:21 am reply quote 0

Payback.

2 AK oilfield worker  6/21/08 10:11:47 am reply quote 0

CHANGE!

3 MandyManners  6/21/08 10:12:12 am reply quote 10

Or, will they act like some battered wives and stay with him?

4 jaunte  6/21/08 10:12:13 am reply quote 0

The editors must be reading the kommenters.

5 wrenchwench  6/21/08 10:12:16 am reply quote 5
a self-interested flip-flop


No, no, a waffle.

6 TalkinKamel  6/21/08 10:12:23 am reply quote 0

Hmmm. . . I wonder; is the media going to start fawning over McCain now? Or are they suddenly going to get behind Hillary, and try to back her as a third-party candidate of some sort?

Whatever, this is going to be a very interesting election.

7 Wyatt Earp  6/21/08 10:12:30 am reply quote 4

I cannot imagine what the undercarriage of this bus looks like after running over Obama's racist white grandmother, Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Obama's former church, women with headscarves, and now this!

8 karmic_inquisitor  6/21/08 10:12:37 am reply quote 0

Just remember - Obama has better judgment!

/

9 Sharmuta  6/21/08 10:12:43 am reply quote 0

Gee- is this the first time the msm has realized that their darlings, the democrats, tend to lie in order to garner support?

What took them so long?

10 Desert Dog  6/21/08 10:12:50 am reply quote 0

They will write one tomorrow that is nicer and all will be forgiven....kiss kiss, make up....

11 Boolz  6/21/08 10:12:55 am reply quote 0

battered wife syndrome will start in 3...2...1...

12 realwest  6/21/08 10:12:59 am reply quote 4

Hot Damn, SOMEONE besides the right side of the blogsphere is paying ATTENTION.

13 jaunte  6/21/08 10:13:16 am reply quote 2

Not like this was the first time he's abandoned a stated principle.

14 Kaitian868  6/21/08 10:13:20 am reply quote 1

What's next?

"Obama throws American People under bus, CHANGE!"

15 AK oilfield worker  6/21/08 10:13:37 am reply quote 4

I'm still hoping for a floor fight at the DIMS convention.

16 Boy Hits Car  6/21/08 10:13:38 am reply quote 0
The scolding could mark a turning point in what has been, on balance, fawning treatment of Obama...

Don't hold your breath.

17 realwest  6/21/08 10:14:05 am reply quote 1

re: #9 Sharmuta What took them so long? BDS and the fact that they are STUPID.
Sorry if that was redundant.

18 Shug  6/21/08 10:14:33 am reply quote 2

Bad Idea throwing the MSM under the bus.

ever run over a skunk ? Bad Idea

19 Sharmuta  6/21/08 10:14:50 am reply quote 0

re: #6 TalkinKamel

They could try to revive Hillary to bring about some chaos in Denver, but it's a fool's tactic. They already made a bed in her mind, and the return of their favor towards her will come with a price.

20 pegcity  6/21/08 10:15:10 am reply quote 0

Hes gonna lose

21 AK oilfield worker  6/21/08 10:15:13 am reply quote 0

re: #18 Shug

Bad Idea throwing the MSM under the bus.

ever run over a skunk ? Bad Idea

Plenty of skunks already under that bus.

22 Ojoe  6/21/08 10:15:23 am reply quote 2

Fawn Doo

He's cooked

23 MarineMomSue  6/21/08 10:15:35 am reply quote 1

re: #7 Wyatt Earp

I cannot imagine what the undercarriage of this bus looks like...

undercarriage abuse!

24 jaunte  6/21/08 10:15:41 am reply quote 0

Losing the media wing of the Obama team is a losing tactic.

25 realwest  6/21/08 10:15:50 am reply quote 0

re: #19 Sharmuta "the return of their favor towards her will come with a price."
I agree and am afraid that price will be paid by the American Taxpayers!

26 ploome hineni  6/21/08 10:15:53 am reply quote 10

News organizations complain about access to Obama

The Times mentioned today a letter from Washington bureau chiefs of six leading news organizations to the Obama campaign, complaining about access and about being deceived by campaign aides.

I've obtained a copy of the letter, whose signatories include AP's Ron Fournier and the late Tim Russert of NBC. It was sent June 6, after Obama flew his press corps to Chicago and stayed behind to meet Clinton. The news organizations threaten in the letter to withhold payment for the flight.

signed by

ABC News Robin Sproul
AP Ron Fournier
CBS News Chris Isham
CNN David Bohrman
Fox News Brian Wilson
NBC News Tim Russert
27 Desert Dog  6/21/08 10:16:07 am reply quote 1

If he thinks he can get elected without the help of the "Broadsheet Editors", he will toss them aside like everything else....I know you need a high level of self confidence and arrogance to run for the Presidency...it is the biggest prize....but it seems Barry might have the highest level ever recorded....his ambition is even larger than Bubba's or Hillary's, and THAT is scary.

28 realwest  6/21/08 10:16:34 am reply quote 0

re: #20 pegcity From your lips to God's ears.

29 Ojoe  6/21/08 10:16:50 am reply quote 0

zerObama

30 pat  6/21/08 10:17:41 am reply quote 0

Anybody catch Obama on drilling for oil yesterday. In summary: if foreigner countries drill for oil, price will go down. If Americans do, price will stay the same.
Then there was Richardson on O'Reilly talking to Ingrahm. America cannot drill offshore because the sea is way to fragile, except in the Gulf of Mexico. Yep. Sure Bill. That makes sense.

31 jaunte  6/21/08 10:17:53 am reply quote 1

re: #3 MandyManners

Or, will they act like some battered wives and stay with him?

That is the most likely scenario.

32 MandyManners  6/21/08 10:17:57 am reply quote 0

re: #26 ploome hineni

33 Conservative in Liberal Hands  6/21/08 10:18:05 am reply quote 0

re: #6 TalkinKamel

I believe what we're seeing is the beginning of the Crucification of the savior bho by "mainstream" media. Look for renewed and increased attacks on alternate-media, such as blogs and LGF. Remember, you saw it first here...

34 Kaitian868  6/21/08 10:18:24 am reply quote 5

Also this is my take on Obama.

Pre-Hillary drop out
"I promise to use public fundings to run my campaign." "I promise to vote against FISA." "I promise to be bipartisan and fair to all Americans." "I promise to withdraw troops from Iraq."

Post-Hillary drop out
"Oh, you mean I actually have to deliver on those promises I made? Time to throw you under the bus! CHANGE!"

35 realwest  6/21/08 10:18:25 am reply quote 0

re: #30 pat Psssst - don't tell him about the oil wells in the North Sea!

36 SasquatchOnSteroids  6/21/08 10:19:03 am reply quote 0
The board viewed Obama’s backtrack on public financing “as an important issue and also as a test of whether he would put principles he said were important to him above political calculation. And he didn’t. That tells us something. It doesn’t tell us everything.”

Soros said no.

37 straitcircle  6/21/08 10:19:27 am reply quote 0

If he supports Israel, that is not change. Bush supports Israel, so how could that be change? Now he doesn't want to get out of Iraq 'right away.' Same ol' same ol'...

38 Killgore Trout  6/21/08 10:19:29 am reply quote 4

The Koskidz got over the campaign finance thing pretty quick but FISA has really pissed them off.

39 Fenway_Nation  6/21/08 10:19:36 am reply quote 0

I don't think this will be enough to get my sister and brother-in-law to stop drinking the Obama flavored Kool-Aid.....

40 ploome hineni  6/21/08 10:19:39 am reply quote 0

re: #32 MandyManners

yes?

41 LoFlyer  6/21/08 10:19:51 am reply quote 8

It is a historical fact that in the last two decades, and especially the last three election cycles that the media has refused to ask, or been allowed to ask a single "tough" question to democrat candidates, example: Not one question asked Kerry in 2004 about his duties in Viet Nam or his treasonous anti-war activities in '72. American media appears to be lost in political bias and they are too immersed to realize it. Almost like an addiction...

42 realwest  6/21/08 10:20:21 am reply quote 2

Well all y'all it's been grand, but I gotta go eat lunch do some chores now.
HOPE you have a GREAT day and that the weather down here doesn't CHANGE!

And I do hope I get the chance to see you down the road.

43 jaunte  6/21/08 10:20:30 am reply quote 1

re: #38 Killgore Trout

It's more personal; they think someone will be listening in on them.

44 wolfie  6/21/08 10:20:39 am reply quote 0

re: #33 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I believe what we're seeing is the beginning of the Crucification of the savior bho by "mainstream" media. Look for renewed and increased attacks on alternate-media, such as blogs and LGF. Remember, you saw it first here...

I wish...........but not a chance.
A little love spat is all.

45 aikidoka  6/21/08 10:20:45 am reply quote 1

They'll come back to the Obamessiah.

I wouldn't mind being proved wrong though.

46 pat  6/21/08 10:20:51 am reply quote 0

re: #35 realwest

Psssst - don't tell him about the oil wells in the North Sea!

Or off the coasts of Indonesia, The Gulf, Brazil, China, Mexico, Malaysia, Brunei, Cuba, Trinidad, etc. LOL

47 stevieray  6/21/08 10:20:55 am reply quote 2

Awww...

The MSM and Obama had a little spat.

Don't worry, they'll kiss and make up... and their love will grow stronger for the testing!

After all... what are they gonna do, support McCain?

48 Sharmuta  6/21/08 10:21:10 am reply quote 1

I'm sure it's quite shocking for the liberals in the press to learn that their candidate of "reform" is no such thing, but is cut from the same cloth of self-interestedness as all the other political hacks.

Figures they wouldn't know a scammer when they see it- they support them all the time- just look at the romatization of che.

49 Kaitian868  6/21/08 10:21:21 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Killgore Trout

The Koskidz got over the campaign finance thing pretty quick but FISA has really pissed them off.

My best friend who is liberal as they come (Not on the same scale as the kos kids thankfully) told me that Obama screwed himself when he supported FISA. That really pissed off the hardcore supporters that are pulling the lever for Obama.

50 Steffan  6/21/08 10:21:22 am reply quote 0

re: #7 Wyatt Earp

I cannot imagine what the undercarriage of this bus looks like after running over Obama's racist white grandmother, Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Obama's former church, women with headscarves, and now this!

I don't think it's pretty.

If this keeps up, he's gonna need a bigger bus -- it's amazing how many he's found room for under it so far.

51 buckykat  6/21/08 10:22:31 am reply quote 0

The Obama campaign calculation is that the story will be over quickly and the public is inattentive and not interested in the issue. He will abandon every one of his so-called principles in the interest of political expediency.

52 wolfie  6/21/08 10:23:25 am reply quote 0

re: #49 Kaitian868

My best friend who is liberal as they come (Not on the same scale as the kos kids thankfully) told me that Obama screwed himself when he supported FISA. That really pissed off the hardcore supporters that are pulling the lever for Obama.

So where are they going? They aren't voting for McCain, who has supported FISA all the way.

53 Sharmuta  6/21/08 10:23:41 am reply quote 0

re: #50 Steffan

I don't think it's pretty.

If this keeps up, he's gonna need a bigger bus -- it's amazing how many he's found room for under it so far.

Obama's bus.

54 Kaitian868  6/21/08 10:24:10 am reply quote 0

re: #52 wolfie

So where are they going? They aren't voting for McCain, who has supported FISA all the way.

Is Nader running again?

55 karmic_inquisitor  6/21/08 10:24:29 am reply quote 1

You know you have pissed off the liberal media cadre when Mark Shields takes you to the woodshed on NewsHour:


It was a flip-flop of epic proportions. It was one that he could not rationalize or justify. His video was unconvincing. He looked like someone who was being kept as a hostage somewhere he was so absolutely unconvincing in it. It could not have passed a polygraph test.

I mean, coming up with this bogus argument the Republicans have so much more money -- the Republicans don't have so much more money. He's raised three times as much as John McCain has.

He has every possible committee, except Republican National Committee, Democrats at the Senate level, congressional level have this lopsided edge over Republicans. They spent three times as much, did Democratic leaning 527s, in the last election as did Republicans.

So what Obama didn't admit was, up until February of this year, when he told Tim Russert that not only would he aggressively seek an agreement on public financing, that he personally would sit down with John McCain and work it out, then, all of a sudden, they realized that all these small contributions were coming in and he was going to have a financial advantage in the fall against the Republican, and they grabbed it.

That should leave a mark, but we are talking about the messiah here.

56 itellu3times  6/21/08 10:25:16 am reply quote 1

re: #26 ploome hineni

Outstanding.

The reporters were left outstanding in their field, multiple times, pretty funny, really.

57 buckykat  6/21/08 10:25:19 am reply quote 0

re: #52 wolfie

Cynthia McKinney?

58 docremulac  6/21/08 10:25:33 am reply quote 0

CHANGE!

FROM A FREE MARKET TO A FASCIST CONTROLLED STATE RUN ECONOMY.
(NATIONALIZING THE OIL REFINERIES)

FROM TAXATION TO SUPER-MEGA-TAXATION (THROUGH THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM PUNISHING WESTERN COMPANIES BY TAXING THEM WHILE LETTING THE REAL POLLUTERS IN CHINA AND RUSSIA OFF THE HOOK SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY AREN'T STUPID ENOUGH TO FALL FOR THE SCAM)

FROM A FREE PRESS TO FASCIST CONTROLLED CENSORSHIP. (THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE)

BUT MAINLY
FROM A PATH TO PEACE TO A PATH TO WAR
(ALLOW IRAN TO INVADE IRAQ, BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND START A NUCLEAR WAR WITH ISRAEL THAT WILL RESULT IN TENS OF MILLIONS DEAD.)

CHANGE? OH YEA. YOU WON'T RECOGNIZE THE PLANET WHEN HE'S FINISHED WITH IT.

59 wolfie  6/21/08 10:25:49 am reply quote 0

The media will get cranky if Obama doesn't give them better access.
They get cranky about campaign finance reforms, too, because they would like to have even MORE power determining who is elected.
They don't like it when a candidate works against their own interest.

But they'll get over it.

60 jaunte  6/21/08 10:26:35 am reply quote 0

re: #55 karmic_inquisitor

Shields didn't note the difference between "raising money" and "having money." McCain still has a lot, while Obama has burned through a lot.

61 debutaunt  6/21/08 10:26:42 am reply quote 1

re: #52 wolfie

So where are they going? They aren't voting for McCain, who has supported FISA all the way.

They might vote for a kegger on election day.

62 itellu3times  6/21/08 10:27:06 am reply quote 2

As Powerline said yesterday, Obama is running up a record of saying really dumb stuff. I have faith in the American electorate that this will result in his defeat, once the campaign starts up in September and people start paying attention.

As long as McCain doesn't actively out-dumb him, that is.

63 wolfie  6/21/08 10:27:59 am reply quote 1

re: #61 debutaunt

They might vote for a kegger on election day.

This is my fondest hope!

64 lostlakehiker  6/21/08 10:29:48 am reply quote 0

Those campaign finance laws have always struck me as unconstitutional limits on freedom of speech. It's just amusing to see a leftist come to the belated realization that the system is absurd.

McCain, the author of some of this nonsense, now pays the price.

Unfortunately, his good ideas are now in trouble along with this bad one. He's right that we need nuclear energy now. Obama hedges his bets, saying that he's all in favor of nuclear energy, just as soon as every last iota of risk or perceived risk has been studied and commissioned to death.

As if there were no risks to coal. As if radon in mine shafts, alone, didn't kill more people yearly than all the American civilian nuclear energy accidents put together ever did, or ever will. Nothing is perfectly safe. Bridges fail. Levees fail. Tornadoes flatten towns sitting high and dry, well away from air pollution or flood or drought or plague or pestilence. Measured against the background of unavoidable risk, the dangers of storing spent nuclear fuel at the Nevada site are ----insignificant is too weak a word. They are effectively zero.

65 Fo knee ix  6/21/08 10:29:48 am reply quote 0

re: #58 docremulac

Yikes. All caps.

66 deadman  6/21/08 10:31:55 am reply quote 4

public financing will cut him off from his enormous advantage of illegal overseas contributions via the internet.

67 Arbalest  6/21/08 10:34:22 am reply quote 1

A significant drop in individual contributions suggests that BO must have money available from other sources.

Opting out of public campaign financing suggests that these sources cannot stand public attention.

I wonder if this really is the case, and if so, who these sources are.

Remember, BO managed to obtain a $2.6million house and lot for about $1.6million, with heavy involvent from Rezko, who, in turn, was heavily involved in several public housing efforts (about $40million) , many of which went bankrupt (while BO was a state senator for one of the areas affected).

Then there's one George S., who seems to want a piece of everything.

Will we finally see some thorough investigative reporting by the MSM?

68 Steffan  6/21/08 10:34:43 am reply quote 1

re: #48 Sharmuta

just look at the romatization of che.

Che's daughter, IIRC, is pissed off at the commercialization of Che's image -- though I think it's sour grapes, for the most part.

Che's family hasn't made a dime off the liberal terrorist chic.

69 ploome hineni  6/21/08 10:37:29 am reply quote 2

why Obama avoids the press

As we scrutinize Barack Obama’s words, it is increasingly difficult for those of us with the responsibility of following this year’s election closely to discern what Obama truly believes at his core on the issues of great importance to the American people.

Obama’s Words On Public Financing: Just yesterday, Barack Obama reversed his position on accepting general election public financing. This change in position comes after nearly two years of speaking to and signing his name to his commitment to the public financing system.

In June 2006, Barack Obama said quite clearly, “I strongly support public financing”:

OBAMA: “Well, I strongly support public financing. And I know [Senator] Dick [Durbin] does too. He’s going to have some things to say about it because when we were having – as you’ll recall – the major debates around lobbying reform, one of the things that Dick, I think, properly pointed out was that you can change the rules on lobbying here in Washington, but if we’re still getting financed primarily from individual contributions, that those with the most money are still going to have the most influence.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At Constituents Breakfast, 6/29/06)

In November 2007, Barack Obama signed his name to his commitment to accept public financing as his party’s general election nominee:

QUESTION: “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?” OBAMA: “Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests.” (Sen. Barack Obama, “Presidential Candidate Questionnaire,” Midwest Democracy Network, [Link: www.commoncause.org...] , 11/27/07)

In February 2008, Barack Obama said that he would meet and “sit down with John McCain” to discuss and negotiate public financing were he to be his party’s nominee:

NBC’S TIM RUSSERT: “So you may opt out of public financing. You may break your word.” Obama: “What I – what I have said is, at the point where I’m the nominee, at the point where it’s appropriate, I will sit down with John McCain and make sure that we have a system that works for everybody.” (Democratic Presidential Debate, Cleveland, OH, 2/26/0
8)

Yet, in the end, Barack Obama’s words were empty and he decided to break his pledge to accept public financing in the general election.

Obama’s Words On Running A Different Type Of Campaign: The McCain campaign has made a good faith effort to reach out to Barack Obama offering to go Iraq together and hold 10 joint town hall meetings. These offers came after Barack Obama pledged to meet “anywhere, anytime”:

OBAMA: “I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy. If John McCain wants to meet me anywhere, anytime, to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, Iran, the Middle East or around the world, that is a conversation I am happy to have. Because I believe that there is no separation between John McCain and George Bush when it comes to our Middle East policy and I think their policy has failed.” (Barack Obama, Media Availability, Watertown, SD, 5/16/0
8)

However, Barack Obama has rejected each and every offer to raise the dialogue in this campaign. As the St. Petersburg Times wrote today, Barack Obama’s words come down to “cynical political calculations,” not the new politics he promised:

70 Steffan  6/21/08 10:37:30 am reply quote 0

re: #54 Kaitian868

Is Nader running again?

Is a bear Catholic? Of course he's running again. AFAIK he's looking for a new party, though. I don't think the Greenies want to bother with that loser any more.

71 Archimedes  6/21/08 10:38:18 am reply quote 0

The media isn't going to stop fawning over him any time soon. There may be a glitch here and there, but they are ideologically bound.

72 Kaitian868  6/21/08 10:38:30 am reply quote 0

re: #70 Steffan

Is a bear Catholic? Of course he's running again. AFAIK he's looking for a new party, though. I don't think the Greenies want to bother with that loser any more.

Aren't they running that crazy woman?

73 Phil N Blanx  6/21/08 10:38:32 am reply quote 0

I'm thinking nothing to see here. Just the demedia's way of demonstrating to whoever is paying attention that they are objective.
It will be breathtaking how quickly the demedia's critique of Obama's backpedaling will be replaced with that old familiar tingling sensation.

74 ploome hineni  6/21/08 10:41:54 am reply quote 1

re: #62 itellu3times

But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there’s Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who’d throw you under the truck for votes.

This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He’s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he’s too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.

But he’s been giving us an education, for anybody who cares to pay attention. Just try to imagine Mister Rogers playing the agent Ari in “Entourage” and it all falls into place.

Back when he was in the Illinois State Senate, Dr. Barack could have taken positions on politically uncomfortable issues. But Fast Eddie Obama voted “present” nearly 130 times. From time to time, he threw his voting power under the truck.

Dr. Barack said he could no more disown the Rev. Jeremiah Wright than disown his own grandmother. Then the political costs of Rev. Wright escalated and Fast Eddie Obama threw Wright under the truck.

Dr. Barack could have been a workhorse senator. But primary candidates don’t do tough votes, so Fast Eddie Obama threw the workhorse duties under the truck.

Dr. Barack could have changed the way presidential campaigning works. John McCain offered to have a series of extended town-hall meetings around the country. But favored candidates don’t go in for unscripted free-range conversations. Fast Eddie Obama threw the new-politics mantra under the truck.

75 TheTick  6/21/08 10:46:09 am reply quote 0

I would love for this to be the beginning of the end for the Obama-media love affair, but I'm not holding my breath. It's probably just a lover's quarrel.

76 Steffan  6/21/08 10:47:35 am reply quote 0

re: #72 Kaitian868

Aren't they running that crazy woman?

I don't know if they accepted her as a candidate; I know that she's been lobbying for the job big time.

If they accept her, they're going from loser to doubleplus loser. I don't envy them their prospects.

77 Ojoe  6/21/08 10:47:50 am reply quote 1

re: #66 deadman

public financing will cut him off from his enormous advantage of illegal overseas contributions via the internet.


There you have it.

Plus, with his planned foreign trip before the convention, it makes me think Obama is running from outside the country, like a virus trying to take over its host.

78 ibmkeyboard  6/21/08 10:48:18 am reply quote 0

or maybe this.

[Link: www.gizmodo.com...]

79 Paul  6/21/08 10:56:45 am reply quote 0

Even my local newspaper, the Milwaukee Journal, printed an editorial mildly reprimanding Obama for his financing flip-flop. But that won't stop the Journal, the NYT, the WaPo, etc. from endorsing him for President. This editorial flap is just a bump on Obama's road to the White House, the MSM remains firmly in his back pocket and by November who'll remember these editorials?

80 yma o hyd  6/21/08 11:00:46 am reply quote 0

re: #79 Paul

Even my local newspaper, the Milwaukee Journal, printed an editorial mildly reprimanding Obama for his financing flip-flop. But that won't stop the Journal, the NYT, the WaPo, etc. from endorsing him for President. This editorial flap is just a bump on Obama's road to the White House, the MSM remains firmly in his back pocket and by November who'll remember these editorials?

I think you're right.
This looks like a gentle slap on the wrist, from some disappointed MSM people. They just tut-tut, and then get on with admiring the BHO, as he can't do no wrong ...

81 guzziguy  6/21/08 11:09:52 am reply quote 0

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

I don't think this will be enough to get my sister and brother-in-law to stop drinking the Obama flavored Kool-Aid.....

Every family has a bit of insanity in it. You should see mine.

82 MJ  6/21/08 11:22:50 am reply quote 0

This is pure inoculation on the part of the media. Now they can say,
"See, we're just as hard on Obama as we are on McCain".

83 MagnaniomousCoward  6/21/08 11:25:42 am reply quote 0

re: #53 Sharmuta

If neither Obama nor McCain is acceptable, why not wote for this?

84 ghost707  6/21/08 11:27:17 am reply quote 0

No worries, by Monday the MSM will be back to licking Obama's boots.

85 hazzyday  6/21/08 11:36:42 am reply quote 0

Regular Politician with principles of convienience. He would be willing to throw his change model away also if it benefited him. If elected he probably will throw a bunch of supporters to the curb, internationalize(Europeanize) his power base, accept the claims of the ignorant muslim imans who preach he is a really a Muslim.

86 LindaMarie  6/21/08 11:46:13 am reply quote 2

# 64

As if there were no risks to coal. As if radon in mine shafts, alone, didn't kill more people yearly than all the American civilian nuclear energy accidents put together ever did, or ever will. Nothing is perfectly safe. Bridges fail. Levees fail. Tornadoes flatten towns sitting high and dry, well away from air pollution or flood or drought or plague or pestilence. Measured against the background of unavoidable risk, the dangers of storing spent nuclear fuel at the Nevada site are ----insignificant is too weak a word. They are effectively zero.

This should be repeated - again and again and again,

87 Gallatin  6/21/08 11:47:33 am reply quote 0

re: #49 Kaitian868

My best friend who is liberal as they come (Not on the same scale as the kos kids thankfully) told me that Obama screwed himself when he supported FISA. That really pissed off the hardcore supporters that are pulling the lever for Obama.

Yes, they're going to wail, moan and gnash their teeth, but when November comes they're still going to pull the lever for HOPE and CHANGE.

88 big L  6/21/08 11:56:39 am reply quote 0

boy, I sure feels sorry for Obama-kids, their kids. He has no heart--abandoned by his father and stiff-armed by his mother. No kindness or appreciation for his grandmother who raised him. and his wife, an angry ingrate, bitter, and perhaps a bit goofy, another grifter . The Hate -filled pastor is another sad mark on the kids.What kind of life will those kids have? Maybe it is time for Child Protective Services to step in. The only saving grace is that there are nannies taking care of them that probably have a shred of kindness and sensitivity.And the parents -the obama s are gone a lot.

89 MagnaniomousCoward  6/21/08 11:58:25 am reply quote 0

re: #58 docremulac

EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER

90 big L  6/21/08 12:01:15 pm reply quote 0

Near my house,about 6 miles, there is a big oil field. So yesterday there was the drilling rig sinking new pipes or cases into the well. It is on the back of a truck. They will be out of there in a day and a half. No gushers, no derricks no walking horse, just oil flowing into the pipes slant-drilled to the tank farm where ever it is.
You never saw such clean ground. sure in times past they dumped toxics. they don't any more.

91 big L  6/21/08 12:02:32 pm reply quote 0

84 ghost, yeah. they have no place to go. they want the Peoples Republic of America so badly...

92 bill-tb  6/21/08 12:07:08 pm reply quote 0

Comrade Obama's word nor his signature isn't good for much is it. Someone convince me Comrade Obama isn't pushing the leftards pipe dream, a Marxist America ruled by Democrats.

93 nadadhimmi  6/21/08 12:16:07 pm reply quote 0

Doesn't mean a Goddamn thing!. Just remember, when it gets down to brass tacks, RACE TRUMPS ALL.

94 EE  6/21/08 12:28:13 pm reply quote 5

To get a grasp of Obama's hypocrisy, think of a person who combines the role of preacher and criminal. Ethical behavior is for thee but not for me, is his message and belief.

Obama combines the role of being a strong advocate of public financing (with its rules), as well as being the first candidate in the general election to opt out of public financing.

If he sends you a letter asking for funds, on the donor card it says: "We are the ones we've been waiting for." This is his pretense to be the Messiah. He pretends also to be above politics. But in reality he turns out to be the sleaziest of politicians.

He is a fraud.

95 debutaunt  6/21/08 12:28:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #93 nadadhimmi

Doesn't mean a Goddamn thing!. Just remember, when it gets down to brass tacks, RACE TRUMPS ALL.

Ouch - my ears!

96 clgood  6/21/08 12:30:47 pm reply quote 0

This looks to me like a case of the MSM tossing Obama under the bus. Or at least sideswiping him with it. That seems more significant. And besides, it's really crowded under Obama's bus.

97 clgood  6/21/08 12:34:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #96 clgood

Instapundit seems to agree. FWIW.

98 angst  6/21/08 12:36:29 pm reply quote 0

Obama's an opportunist. I might even respect him more if he really believed the extreme positions he's adopted on various issues, but I think his main goal is simply being President and being far left of center was just the fast track to get there.
Hell hath no fury like that of a narcissistic, self-aggrandizing MSM scorned. If the press want to turn McCain into a moderate, with his record they certainly can. At any rate, the next few months are going to be interesting.

99 angst  6/21/08 12:37:36 pm reply quote 2

re: #93 nadadhimmi

Doesn't mean a Goddamn thing!. Just remember, when it gets down to brass tacks, RACE TRUMPS ALL.

Did you forget your sarc tags?

100 DoubleU  6/21/08 1:18:25 pm reply quote 0

The media will remain in love with their Marxists man. Remember liberals are liberals first.

101 uncleFuzzy  6/21/08 1:41:04 pm reply quote 1

I'm sorry for being so late to the party, but I don't see where the Chicago Tribune editorial board held Obama accountable for opting out of public financing.

On the contrary, they supported the decision and pointed out the (supposed) nuance of his earlier position. Here is a link.

And unless the Yahoo news-linked story has been updated, no where in it do they mention the Chicago Tribune.

102 MagnaniomousCoward  6/21/08 1:44:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #101 uncleFuzzy

Ooops. Seems like a good catch.

103 big L  6/21/08 1:46:13 pm reply quote 0

the msm have no place to go. I wouldn't be a buit surprised if the script for this editorial wasn't created in Obama campaign hq in chicago. All kabuki. In ten days most of the Obamites will not even remember that there was finance, or reform or public funding or a video'd speech about it.
We are goingto have this guy crammed dn our collective throats. M'Cain needs to knee him in the groin.

104 big L  6/21/08 1:46:54 pm reply quote 0

"...groin."- figuratively speaking, of course.

105 MagnaniomousCoward  6/21/08 1:49:22 pm reply quote 0

Perhaps the printed opinon pages say something else?

Until the chief lizard explains himself, here's the news story.

106 big L  6/21/08 1:51:35 pm reply quote 0

Maybe this is a set-up by the Clintoons...Obama wears out, can't be nominated, has run interference for hil'ry making her look better.Then she gets nom'd and he gets 200-300 million dollars, is a klieg-light in the donk party. Oby pays her debts. Oby and Algore tour together for 150K a speech. and Oby runs again later.
/tin foil hat in place.

107 LadyEngineer  6/21/08 2:10:01 pm reply quote 0

This is a little slap on the wrist for not going with one of their pet programs, no more.

It gives them the MSM a chance to seem fair by finally "getting tough" on Obama, by discussing something that he can't deny, is public, and that few people care much about. It took no investigative reporting, and no tough questions that Obama can't answer.

If you are looking for a crack in the love affair, it is wishful thinking. They are not even promising to leave their wives to marry us. Let's not depend on the MSM in this election. If it will really hurt Obama, it won't get reported, much less condemned.

108 nadadhimmi  6/21/08 2:52:03 pm reply quote 0

Sorry to shout but I did it for emphasis. The liberal white guilt of the msm knows no bounds. You see, there is simply no way the msm can oppose Obama, to do so would undermine the foundations of their belief system. They are finally in a self imposed bind: either they must be racists or sexists, there is no other reason for them to support Hillary or BO. They will support BO without question, wherever he leads the Nation, simply because to do otherwise would make them guilty of racism by the definition they themselves have established to evaluate the behavior of the great unwashed: namely anyone west of the Hudson or east of L.A. Unfortunately, many people have ceded moral superiority to them.

109 mattm  6/21/08 6:44:09 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 Sharmuta

Gee- is this the first time the msm has realized that their darlings, the democrats, tend to lie in order to garner support?

What took them so long?

Well, the first time they had to admit it.

110 Reluctant Democrat  6/21/08 9:13:54 pm reply quote 0

The MSM discovered he was not not pure, so they annulled the marriage.

111 Optimizer  6/21/08 11:08:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #88 big L

boy, I sure feels sorry for Obama-kids, their kids. He has no heart--abandoned by his father and stiff-armed by his mother. No kindness or appreciation for his grandmother who raised him. and his wife, an angry ingrate, bitter, and perhaps a bit goofy, another grifter . The Hate -filled pastor is another sad mark on the kids.What kind of life will those kids have? Maybe it is time for Child Protective Services to step in. The only saving grace is that there are nannies taking care of them that probably have a shred of kindness and sensitivity.And the parents -the obama s are gone a lot.

If I had BHO's family life, I'd certainly wouldn't advertise it by writing books about it. Wouldn't he technically be the first "illegit" president, with his father having been a bigamist? I don't like to hold something against someone when it's out of their control, but advertising how screwed up your upbringing was doesn't seem to make sense. Why would people want a President with massive amounts of pyschological "baggage"?

112 Miss Molly  6/22/08 12:33:19 pm reply quote 0

I live in an area which is mostly made up of Democrates. Every single person I have talked to can not stand Obama. They do not trust him and will not vote for him. Maybe the American people are paying attention already because everyone around me knows every lie Obama is making.

113 mudmarine  6/25/08 5:30:59 am reply quote 0

Haven't commented in quite a while. So just trying a test post to make sure everything still works.