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Video: IAEA's ElBaradei: Iran Could Have a Nuke Within 6 Months

Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:27:58 am PDT

As we noted Friday, the media were reporting that IAEA “watchdog” Mohamed ElBaradei warned that an attack on Iran would turn the Middle East into a “ball of fire” (goodness gracious), and threatened to quit his job.

What the media did not tell you: in this interview in Arabic with Al-Arabiya TV, ElBaradei also said, quite explicitly, that Iran is able to produce a nuclear weapon in six months to a year. (Courtesy of MEMRI TV.)

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Following are excerpts from an interview with IAEA Director-General Dr. Muhammad Al-Baradei, which aired on Al-Arabiya TV on June 20, 2008.

Muhammad Al-Baradei: If Iran wants to turn to the production of nuclear weapons, it must leave the NPT, expel the IAEA inspectors, and then it would need at least... Considering the number of centrifuges and the quantity of uranium Iran has...

Interviewer: How much time would it need?

Muhammad Al-Baradei: It would need at least six months to one year. Therefore, Iran will not be able to reach the point where we would wake up one morning to an Iran with a nuclear weapon.

Interviewer: Excuse me, I would like to clarify this for our viewers. If Iran decides today to expel the IAEA from the country, it will need six months...

Muhammad Al-Baradei: Or one year, at least...

Interviewer:... to produce [nuclear] weapons?

Muhammad Al-Baradei: It would need this period to produce a weapon, and to obtain highly-enriched uranium in sufficient quantities for a single nuclear weapon.

[...]

In my view, a military strike would be the worst thing possible. It would turn the Middle East into a ball of fire.

Interviewer: It would be worse than sanctions?

Muhammad Al-Baradei: Much worse, because a military strike would mean, first and foremost, that even if Iran does not produce nuclear weapons today, it would implement a so-called “crash course,” or an accelerated plan to produce a nuclear weapon, with the agreement and blessing of all the Iranians – even the Iranians living in the West.

[...]

Interviewer: Dr. Al-Baradei, what do the Iranian officials tell you when you confront them about the need for more transparency?

Muhammad Al-Baradei: They say there will be more transparency, but at the end of the day, I’d rather wait to see this transparency.

[...]

I always think of resigning in the event of a military strike.

Interviewer: You will resign in the event that...

Muhammad Al-Baradei: If military force is used, I would conclude that there is no mechanism left for me to defend.

Interviewer: This is a threat directed at the Americans – if you strike, I will resign.

Muhammad Al-Baradei: I am not doing this for material profit. If I was working in the private sector, I would... I am doing this out of the conviction that I am defending shared values. If we deviate from these shared values...

Interviewer: So there is no justification for an attack...

Muhammad Al-Baradei: The day I believe that the international system has begun to collapse is the day I will resign.

[...]

Interviewer: If the world reaches a consensus that there is no solution but to attack Iran, would you still resign? What if Europe, America, and the entire West agree that the only resolution is a military one?

Muhammad Al-Baradei: I don’t think that what we are seeing today in Iran poses a clear, imminent, and immediate danger.

Interviewer: But in a year or two, it could become...

Muhammad Al-Baradei: If this happens, it will be a different story, but if a military strike is launched against Iran now, in my opinion, I will have no choice but to...

Interviewer: So there is no justification for a strike against Iran today.

Muhammad Al-Baradei: None whatsoever. There will be no point for me to continue doing my work if military force is used at present.

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1 winston06  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:29:37am

He should quit now.

2 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:29:38am

Sir, their is a typo.

What the media did not tell you is that in this interview win Arabic with Al-Arabiya TV, he also said that Iran is able to produce one nuclear weapon in six months to a year.

3 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:30:17am

After the mistake is correct please feel free to delete this post and #2.

Anything I can do to help.

4 BGOH  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:30:22am

WHAT THE F**K?!

5 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:30:24am

Iran owns him. No surprise he tries to protect them.

6 Izzy Dunne  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:30:32am

Change!

At least he's promised to quit if somebody bombs Iran.

7 winston06  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:30:53am

re: #5 Hard Right

UN is owned by thugs and terrorists

8 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:31:20am

Six months to a year? Given the IAEA's track record, I suspect that Iran already has them.

9 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:31:26am

Israel is spinning up.

NO NUKES FOR YOU!

I hope it's a joint op, or we do it. I think we can handle the heat a lot better.

10 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:32:48am
In my view, a military strike would be the worst thing possible. It would turn the Middle East into a ball of fire.

Interviewer: It would be worse than sanctions?

Muhammad Al-Baradei: Much worse, because a military strike would mean, first and foremost, that even if Iran does not produce nuclear weapons today, it would implement a so-called “crash course,” or an accelerated plan to produce a nuclear weapon, with the agreement and blessing of all the Iranians – even the Iranians living in the West.

In other words, Al-Baradei does not want us to stop Iran from doing what Iran wants to do.

11 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:33:03am

re: #6 Izzy Dunne

Change!

At least he's promised to quit if somebody bombs Iran.

Only because he'd lose his Iranian paycheck.

12 gibsonz  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:33:33am

Iran will call it the ElBaradei in honor of his efforts.

13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:34:01am
It would need at least six months to one year. Therefore, Iran will not be able to reach the point where we would wake up one morning to an Iran with a nuclear weapon.

Those statements do not make sense

14 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:34:17am

The IAEA, which is supposed to prevent proliferation, has all but resigned itself to accepting a nuclear Iran, despite its statements that it will seek to obliterate Israel and rain fire and brimstone on its enemies.

It doesn't see a problem with this, and it took 290 days to get around to investigating what happened in Syria on September 6, 2007. Nice.

15 FrogMarch  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:34:19am

(goodness gracious) - LOLOLOL! Great sense of humor, Charles. You've got it.

16 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:35:10am

Inshalla, Israel will give him his reason for quitting!

17 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:35:17am

re: #10 Honorary Yooper

You got to love the logic of "we have to see if they end up building nukes (ed- let's not forget that once they have them its too late) because if we do not, they will build them.

hmmmmm, so eitherway they get nukes? Best argument to bomb them I've heard....and I am someone who is against bombing them.

18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:35:41am
Muhammad Al-Baradei: In my view, a military strike would be the worst thing possible. It would turn the Middle East into a ball of fire.

Like his threat to resign, I'm not exactly seeing a down side.

19 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:35:49am

re: #14 lawhawk

The IAEA, which is supposed to prevent proliferation, has all but dedicated resigned itself to accepting allowing a nuclear Iran, despite its statements that it will seek to obliterate Israel and rain fire and brimstone on its enemies.

It doesn't see a problem with this, and it took 290 days to get around to investigating what happened in Syria on September 6, 2007. Nice.

Tweaked

20 FrogMarch  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:35:57am

Good thing a toothless watchdog is ... watching!

We get to find out when the rabid Jew-hating thugs can destroy whatever the heck they want.

21 RickZ  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:35:59am
Muhammad Al-Baradei: I don’t think that what we are seeing today in Iran poses a clear, imminent, and immediate danger.

Interviewer: But in a year or two, it could become...

Muhammad Al-Baradei: If this happens, it will be a different story, but if a military strike is launched against Iran now, in my opinion, I will have no choice but to...

I have to agree with ol' Al-Baradei: Iran is not an imminent threat, the UN is.

22 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:36:16am

I am conferenced into the most boring effing meeting, lead by one of the biggest blowhards I have ever met. Thank goodness he can't see my face. Can you see eye rolling through the phone?

23 wolfie  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:36:20am

He's keeps talking about his quitting, as if this is of supreme importance!
Egomania!
Does he really think that the US and Israel are sitting around taking that into account? "Well, we could do this, but El Baradei might quit!" Picture it!

24 zombie  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:36:27am

So, let me get this straight. ElBaradei is saying:

a. Iran is going to get nukes SOON!
b. Attacking them to stop them would be the worst thing possible!

So, what conclusion can we draw from this? Only two:

1. He WANTS Iran to get nukes;
...or...
2. He actually thinks, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that Iran can be "negotiated" out of building nukes. In which case he is insane.

Either way: He's GOT TO GO as UN weapons inspector. Get someone in there who has some teeth!

25 BGOH  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:36:28am

So let me get this straight...Iran is effectively six months to a year away from being able to produce a nuclear weapon, and this asshat would only be disappointed if the U.S. and Israel act to prevent a radical, fundamentalist regime from getting to that point?

Could someone please explain to me what in the hell the mission of the IAEA was supposed to be when it was created? This is seriously, seriously messed up, and I'm having a very hard time self-censoring right now.

26 me  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:05am

I'm sure Mohammed (el baradei - piss be upon him) must be proud.

He will be remembered as the "absentee" father of the Iranian Bomb, much like AQ Khan is the father of the Pakistani bomb.

27 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:07am
28 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:13am

re: #23 wolfie

Of course it's of supreme importance to the Ummah-if he quits, there is a possibility that an infidel could get the job.

29 TheTick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:16am

Why doesn't he just say that he wants Iran to have nukes? A little candor at least would be refreshing. What a jack@$$!

30 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:42am

Can we hold Mohammed to his promise toresign should someone bomb Iran?

31 ointmentfly  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:47am

..... and your reason for staying around is? GWB, by taking out Saddam, single handedly disarmed him from ever having nukes and in response, Libya coughed up their WMD program.

This guy reminds me of Marcia Clark when she was running all over cable TV explaining how to solve crimes and convict murderers....

32 AK oilfield worker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:37:54am

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33 wolfie  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:38:07am

re: #24 zombie

I nominate John Bolton !

34 winston06  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:38:32am

re: #33 wolfie

He should be John McCain's Secretary of State or National Security Adviser

35 Max Darkside  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:38:48am

I wish the guy would quit and someone would put a real man in the job, oh, say, Bolton, not some nuke-enabling girly man.

36 phoenixgirl  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:38:51am

perhaps he wants any attack to take place after iran has nuclear weapons so not just the mid east is a ball of fire but the whole world....share the love..../

37 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:38:55am

His name is Mohammed ElBaradei. He is just functioning as an agent of taqqiya for the Iranians, to delay military action until Iran has nukes. If he should fail in this mission, he will, of course, resign.

He will have failed.

If he succeeds, Iran gets nukes. He's now telling us this could be within the next 6 months.

Let's see what the Presidential Candidates say about this.

38 winston06  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:39:15am

As John Bolton puts it: It's called UN's nuclear watch-puppy

39 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:39:33am

This is a threat directed at the Americans – if you strike, I will resign.

Foresake me, my darling.

40 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:40:11am

re: #36 phoenixgirl

perhaps he wants any attack to take place after iran has nuclear weapons so not just the mid east is a ball of fire but the whole world....share the love..../

That does sound like their kind of "love".

41 ointmentfly  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:40:34am

re: #39 chinesearithmetic

This is a threat directed at the Americans – if you strike, I will resign.

Foresake me, my darling.

2 birds with one stone.....

42 MJ  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:41:56am

The Bush Administration will share the blame when Iran does get it's Nukes.

Condi Rice's and George Bush's policy of letting the EU handle it, and then letting Russia handling it, and then Germany, and then the UN, and now back to the EU has been a disaster.

43 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:44:43am

Iran is six months from a nuc.

Iran is run by the cult of the 12th Imam.

The cult of the 12th Imam believes they can actuate the apocalypse and bring about the return of the Madhi.

Dinnerjacket has been pretty direct about "wiping out Israel."

As John Bolton put it: When you have a regime that would be happier in the afterlife than in this life, this is not a regime that is subject to classic theories of deterrence. Retaliation for them, which would obliterate their society, doesn’t have the same negative connotations for their leadership.

The only real question I have is why the ordinance to solve the problem is still in the storage depot.

44 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:45:23am

In six months Barack Obama will have been elected president and all this misunderstanding will be cleared up by President Obama's brilliant rhetorical skills....and a whole lot of hope.

45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:45:57am

The Iranians hate us and are actively working to kill us, effectively in a state of war.

If we stand aside and do nothing, they'll hate us and kill us eventually

If we do anything to stop them, they'll still hate us, but be less able to act on it.

Choice seems pretty cut and dry to me.

46 NoSubmission  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:46:26am

What's with the comments? or lack thereof?

47 MJ  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:47:00am

Is anyone else having problems with the site?

48 CoCo  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:47:20am

Has anyone reported that Miss Bunny's blogs have been removed at obama's site?

49 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:47:40am

re: #46 NoSubmission

What's with the comments? or lack thereof?

We are busy digging out the fallout shelter's we filled in at the end of the cold war.

50 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:48:17am

Going lunch...
BBL

51 NoSubmission  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:50:21am

re: #48 CoCo

Has anyone reported that Miss Bunny's blogs have been removed at obama's site?


Is she a furry?

52 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:53:44am

Wazup ere?

53 RTLM  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:54:29am

ElBaradie is married to Aida Elkachef, the cousin of Ayatollah Mahdavi Kani. Former Iranian prime minister and close confidant to Ayatollah Khamenei. Presently, he is the Secretary General of the Combatant Clergy Association.

(neck deep)

54 NoSubmission  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:00:42pm

Anyone home.......?

55 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:01:01pm

Hmmmm.

56 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:02:06pm

re: #54 NoSubmission

Anyone home.......?

Just you and I.

57 NoSubmission  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:02:54pm

re: #56 Ringo the Gringo

Just you and I.


Did the world end and we are the only survivors?

58 Charles  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:03:17pm

We're having some kind of issue with the database server. Have a support ticket in to Hosting Matters.

59 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:04:17pm

re: #57 NoSubmission

A glitch in the matrix perhaps?

60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:04:30pm

re: #57 NoSubmission

Did the world end and we are the only survivors?

I was on a con call. 15 people on a phone line where no one talks.

61 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:18:00pm

I am here

62 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:53:42pm

It's alive!

63 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:54:13pm

Ack!

[/Shaking]

64 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:55:06pm

Let's try this again:

'How the english speaking people of the world, through their unwisdom and good nature, allowed the wicked to re-arm themselves'

— A paraphrase of Winston Churchill's theme for his book "The Gathering Storm".

I hope we don't make the mistake again.

65 pianobuff  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:55:45pm

Oh darn - it looks like the possum is being thrown under the bus. Would that make the faux seal officially "roadkill"?

[Link: adage.com...]

66 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 12:55:51pm

Well we're back.

Get used to gaps like this, if Iran gets its nuke.

67 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:09:16pm

re: #57 NoSubmission

Did the world end and we are the only survivors?

Is it safe to go outside?

68 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:16:40pm

Um. Hello?

69 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:17:44pm

Now Online: 3,118
Logged in: 329

Did algore quit his job?

70 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:22:53pm

Um. Anybody want to talk about ID vs evolution?
Bueller? Anybody?

71 madisonsfriend  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:45:49pm

re: #70 VegasRick

Um. Anybody want to talk about ID vs evolution?
Bueller? Anybody?

I thnk you should have an ID- a driver's license will do

72 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:46:14pm

re: #47 MJ

Is anyone else having problems with the site?

It was down for a couple hours for me.

73 nikis-knight  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:47:30pm

re: #24 zombie

He's GOT TO GO as UN weapons inspector. Get someone in there who has some teeth!

I know a way to make that happen...;)

(waiting two hours to post that during the maintenance... lol)

74 madisonsfriend  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:48:10pm

re: #72 rawmuse

It was down for a couple hours for me.

It said "routine maintanence" -I think Charles was letting the hamsters have a nap while he got a haircut.

75 pegcity  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:49:15pm

Use the godamn F22's.

They are good for other things than fighting Ironman and Transformers.

76 ironbill  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:51:38pm

Muhammad Al-Baradei: I am not doing this for material profit. If I was working in the private sector, I would... I am doing this out of the conviction that I am defending shared values. If we deviate from these shared values...

What, pray tell, might these glorious "shared values" be?

77 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:54:25pm

re: #66 Ojoe

Well we're back.

Get used to gaps like this, if Iran gets its nuke. Obama wins.

Can we say "Fairness Doctrine"?

78 Wm T Sherman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:57:49pm

Is he going to resign after Iran's first nuclear test? I think the answer is no.

It would be fair if he did. The test would confrim that "the international system has begun to collapse," which he said is a circumstance that would force him to resign; not to mention it would mean that personally, he utterly failed at his job. His official day job I mean, not that other job that he doesn't talk about.

I agree with the view that he should resign yesterday.

79 JSK1121  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 1:58:43pm

All international organs, IAEA, UN, etc., should be disbanded now. It's way too clear that totalitarian, Islamic regimes have entirely too much power to be allowed to participate.

We should start over with true democracies, i.e. no islamic countries, barely any countries in Africa, and then let the dictators see how much business we mean when we're not being fettered by them.

80 Wm T Sherman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:00:08pm

Also, in what way is getting a weapon in six months to a year not a "crash progrm?"

In a fair world, he would be forced out for incompetence and dereliction of duty, but it will never happen.

81 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:00:31pm

re: #71 madisonsfriend

I thnk you should have an ID- a driver's license will do

I updated my voter registration today. No Id required. No proof of anything required. And I was hoping they would make me show my passport or birth certificate or something.

I think my dead grandparents ought to vote this year.... j/k

82 sadhu  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:01:19pm

hard to believe that he is completely incompetent --- he must be in cahoots re: #53 RTLM

ElBaradie is married to Aida Elkachef, the cousin of Ayatollah Mahdavi Kani. Former Iranian prime minister and close confidant to Ayatollah Khamenei. Presently, he is the Secretary General of the Combatant Clergy Association.

(neck deep)


up to his eyeballs in cahoots

83 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:03:58pm

re: #76 ironbill

Muhammad Al-Baradei: I am not doing this for material profit. If I was working in the private sector, I would... I am doing this out of the conviction that I am defending shared values. If we deviate from these shared values...

What, pray tell, might these glorious "shared values" be?

Why, bringing back the 12th imam, silly. ;)

84 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:05:02pm

re: #75 pegcity

Use the godamn F22's.

They are good for other things than fighting Ironman and Transformers.

We should use B-1 bombers in the role they were originally designed for.

Why make new weapons when you are not getting the full potential out of the ones you've already got? -cf. Jack Handey

85 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:05:07pm

re: #43 jcm

"ordnance"

spell check won't catch it.

86 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:06:01pm

re: #48 CoCo

Has anyone reported that Miss Bunny's blogs have been removed at obama's site?

So you're saying the rabbit died?

87 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:07:44pm

re: #65 pianobuff

Oh darn - it looks like the possum is being thrown under the bus. Would that make the faux seal officially "roadkill"?

[Link: adage.com...]

So they killed the baby seal?

/sorry, i couldn't resist

88 Kilroy  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:07:58pm

Seems to me Iran would get the greatest impact by detonating a bomb in downtown Baghdad.They already have a delivery device and would hit the "Great Satan".I hope Bush again acts before the threat is imminent!

89 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:08:55pm

re: #84 David IV of Georgia

We should use B-1 bombers in the role they were originally designed for.

Why make new weapons when you are not getting the full potential out of the ones you've already got? -cf. Jack Handey

Thanks to Jimmy Carter, the B-1 never fulfilled its potential.

90 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:09:45pm

Time to warm up the F-16Is.

91 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:13:42pm

re: #14 lawhawk

The IAEA, which is supposed to prevent proliferation, has all but resigned itself to accepting a nuclear Iran, despite its statements that it will seek to obliterate Israel and rain fire and brimstone on its enemies.

It doesn't see a problem with this, and it took 290 days to get around to investigating what happened in Syria on September 6, 2007. Nice.

The Syrians needed to give time for Assad to hide all the evidence and build a baby milk factory in its place.

And ElBaradei is clearly stalling until Iran gets nukes. They shouldn't wait for him to resign; he should be fired. And he and the UN should be sent the bill for cleaning up Iran; if they had done their jobs, Iran wouldn't be this close.

Good thing it looks like Ol'merde will be gone in less than 6 months. He'd send the Iranians coordinates for delivery.

But there is a section in the Prophets that prophesizes enemy armies preparing to invade Israel, when they are wiped out by something that sounds like what would happen if an Iranian nuke went off course and hit them instead.

92 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:14:29pm

re: #76 ironbill

Muhammad Al-Baradei: I am not doing this for material profit. If I was working in the private sector, I would... I am doing this out of the conviction that I am defending shared values. If we deviate from these shared values...

What, pray tell, might these glorious "shared values" be?

Why the values of the Caliphate, sharia, etc.

93 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:15:11pm

re: #89 Ward Cleaver

Thanks to Jimmy Carter, the B-1 never fulfilled its potential.

There is that whole conventional vs. total war thing...
You know, the one bomber, one won war thing?

94 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:15:13pm
95 Noah's Arrrgh  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:15:17pm

re: #89 Ward Cleaver

Thanks to Jimmy Carter, the B-1 never fulfilled its potential.

Were it only that. It's amazing how much chaos and mischief a failed one-term president can unleash upon the world. Remember that if BO becomes president...

96 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:16:02pm

re: #94 taxfreekiller

ya,,

but we need amnesty,
but, we need national govt. health care

ya
but, we need to up the taxes on the oil companies

ya
but,
global warming is real

f'n loon two party evil money cult whores can not stop sucking up the money, while the bomb is being loaded on the rocket..

f'n dumb bastards in D.C.

Everyone else is too smart to go thru what they do to get the job.

97 bullskin  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:19:27pm

I think if LGF existed before WWII we had warned about Hitler's arms program and nobody would care.

98 annar  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:19:42pm

The IAEA is to Iran's ayatollahs as the MSM is to Obambi: in the tank. When Allah's candle lights up Israel it's a safe bet that ElBaradei will be no where to be seen.

99 brent  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:21:02pm

There is no imminent threat. Read my lips. None. Iran will have nukes in as soon as six months (maybe a year), but that's a long time. Really long time. Heck, my dog only lived to be 18, so that's like 1/36th of her whole life. We're talking a long time.

What a tool and a fool - sure, if you attack Iran, then they'll have a reason to build the bomb that may be ready in 6 months to a year, but if you leave them alone, they'll finish the aforementioned bomb in about 6 months (to a year).

We have a mineshaft defecit. If this were Dr Strangelove, it would be funny. Coming from the voice of the world on nuclear proliferation, it makes you cry.

100 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:29:44pm

This really makes me very very angry. El Baradea et al are toying with my children's lives. Thank God we at least have some type of missile defense shield in place. But I live on the east coast between NY and DC, and this is rediculous. Just because liberals like living on the edge of crazy in many aspects of their lives, the rest of us, don't. I've had it with these people, these liberals, these tyrants. My children's lives are more important than all of them.

To the people of Iran, I say, help us help you free yourselves from the genocidal monsters.

To the members of LGF I say: buy two of all you grocery purchases and store one for for food storage.

101 kathyn  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:33:16pm

Distant Thunder #100. You got that right. I don't care if they call me a hoarder or what, but I've been storing food for a while now. It would be wise in a stable world because you might have a family emergency. In our very precarious world, it's a necessity. Just look at how quickly store shelves are emptied just before a hurricane. Now imagine things 1000 times worse, and we are in deep trouble.

102 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:38:48pm

re: #100 DistantThunder

This really makes me very very angry. El Baradea et al are toying with my children's lives. Thank God we at least have some type of missile defense shield in place. But I live on the east coast between NY and DC, and this is rediculous. Just because liberals like living on the edge of crazy in many aspects of their lives, the rest of us, don't. I've had it with these people, these liberals, these tyrants. My children's lives are more important than all of them.

To the people of Iran, I say, help us help you free yourselves from the genocidal monsters.

To the members of LGF I say: buy two of all you grocery purchases and store one for for food storage.

Maybe the Illudium Q-37 explosive space modulator can take care of Iran, then.
Seriously, I hope it is Amadmanonjihad that is asking "Where's the Kaboom? There's supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!" And then it blows up in his face.

103 Dainn  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:41:32pm

I wonder how the oil futures are faring right now? It looks like Israel will have to attack Iran more sooner than later. They US won't/can't (politically).

I'm guessing that through all the smoke and mirrors, Israel --who gets a dose of terrorism-reality daily -- will make the strike rather than allowing a Hamas nuke go off in Tel Aviv. We sold them 10 bunker-busters just for this reason.

We will be facing $6.00 per gallon by the time McCain/Obama starts his term.

(I close my eyes and dream of a day when oil is an expensive non-necessary luxury item for obsolete gas-powered cars, and we can turn the Arabian peninsula back into "just a desert" again.)

104 FlakMusic  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:47:57pm

re: #17 WrathofG-d

You got to love the logic of "we have to see if they end up building nukes (ed- let's not forget that once they have them its too late) because if we do not, they will build them.

That struck me as well.

To paraphrase ElBaradei:

"They could have nukes in 6 months to a year, therefore there is no justification whatsoever for military action."

So, if I follow him, we're supposed to wait until Iran has the actual means to unleash all the death, destruction, chaos, and necessary to trigger the return of the Mahdi before we dare them to do so with a military attack.

Any attack taking place prior to that major milestone would prevent Iran from being able to achieve its glorious objective of the destruction of Israel and global Islamic rule.

Therefore, the West should wait to attack until Iran is in a position to actually trigger the Apocalypse and usher in this golden age.

"If there is a military attack, it will only motivate them to accelerate their already urgent and clandestine efforts to develop a nuke."

So, he's recommending that the UN put Iran on double-secret probation to prevent them from putting their program on double-frantic-acceleration.

No wonder these guys get the big money...this sort of high-stakes political gamesmanship makes no sense at all to me.

105 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:54:37pm

well, now we know how close iran is to having a nuke.
our window of opportunity is closing. time to act and stop them.
the last thing we want is to be left doubting their intentions when a bomb goes off in israel.

106 littleben  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:55:00pm

Some constructive suggestions for Israel;
1.Jericho Missile to the well housing the 12th Imam; destroys DinnerJackets command and communication system;
2. Arm the Iranian Kurds and foment a guerrilla warfare front;
3.Offer a Ten Million Dollar prize to the Iranian who sends Dinner Jacket to his 72 Houris; Five Million for arranging eternal Viagra free bliss for the Ayatollah.

Other suggestions are welcome.

107 tommygum  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:55:12pm

re: #101 kathyn

And ammo too......

108 pegcity  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:55:49pm

I can't say if i were Iran Id trust a north korean missle as a delivery system, its a 50-50 shot between it blowing up on the launchpad or over Syria

109 stuiec  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:58:41pm

Implicit in el-Baradei's 6-to-12-month projection is the assumption that Iran's current membership in the NPT and the presence of IAEA inspectors has in any way hindered its enrichment and bomb engineering programs, and that these haven't been going on in secret all the while that el-Baradei has been running interference for the Iranians.

I doubt the time frame is 6 to 12 months from some hypothetical future point of break with the West. I believe it's 6 to 12 months from some definite point in the past when the Iranians decided to go for broke in advance of any potential Israeli or American military strike. And that point might have been more than 6 or 12 months ago....

110 tommygum  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:59:04pm

re: #108 pegcity

Wouldn't that be a pity.

111 J'accuzzi  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:05:17pm

Nuke the 12th imam or flatten the Hibs Balla SRO Iranian snake pit in Dimashq first? Choices, choices. Decisions, decisions. Will America's enemies act before the election? Will America's friends act afterward?

112 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:13:18pm

re: #108 pegcity

I can't say if i were Iran Id trust a north korean missle as a delivery system, its a 50-50 shot between it blowing up on the launchpad or over Syria

Which is why I say the prophecy of an invading army wiped out by something that sounds a lot like a nuke could happen that way.

Of course, if an Iranian nuke landed on Syria, the UN would still blame Israel.

113 offendi  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:17:06pm

The bankruptcy of the Bush administration is shown by their giving any credibility to this buffoon.

The current members of Israel's Knesset do not want early elections because they know they will be thrown out.

The best thing that can happen for Israel's and America's joint interests is the election of Bibi Netanyahu who will launch a missile-based strike on these Iranian bastards who are helping to kill our soldiers in Iraq.
F the Saudis Georgie. It's time to grow a pair.

114 Is it me?  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:18:52pm

ElB never does make much sense. You always have to read between the lines.
He doesn't mention how much (if any) work his organisation to try to determine exactly where Iran is with their nuclear programme. He only seems concerned that he might have to resign if Iran proves that it has a nuke. And where, pray, would he get a job outside of the UN?
If that's not bad enough he thinks the ME will go up if there is a military raid but on the other hand he doesn't think it will make any difference to Irans' ability to produce a nuke in 6 mths+ if it does go ahead. It's either a pile of poo or he knows more than he's letting on.
He is not the man to be investigating this at all.
He is not on the side of the world at large.
His affiliations are way too suspect.
Too many cahoots and no cajones.
Bad news all round.

115 Etaoin Shrdlu  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:23:19pm
Muhammad Al-Baradei: I am not doing this for material profit.

That sounds... credible. Someone pinch me.

116 Fish-Man  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:41:22pm

re: #37 Iron Fist

His name is Mohammed ElBaradei. He is just functioning as an agent of taqqiya for the Iranians, to delay military action until Iran has nukes. If he should fail in this mission, he will, of course, resign.

He will have failed.

If he succeeds, Iran gets nukes. He's now telling us this could be within the next 6 months.

Let's see what the Presidential Candidates say about this.

His interview makes it painfully clear. His job is to muddy the waters so that nukes can be produced. Does any thinking person believe that somehow Iran will first abandon the NPT, and then throw out the IAEA, and then, only after that 'begin' working on nukes? The fact that Iran has centrifuges galore, the fact that they have built hardened research facilities, and the fact that they have amassed significant uranium are all individually evidence that they ARE working on nukes.

But listen to the rest of what he says, how a strike would be a mistake because THEN Iran would start a crash program to get nukes. (umm, unlike what they are up to already how?)

And he claims that he would resign in the event of a military strike because then there would be no mechanism to defend. Just substitute Islamic Terrorist State for 'mechanism', and you will get his true meaning.

But he won't resign because there ARE other Islamic Terrorist States to defend.

As for the six months to a year number - yeah, if we are lucky it will take them six months from now, assuming the IAEA keeps muddying the water properly, and we all keep looking the other way.

117 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:42:52pm

re: #53 RTLM

RTLM -

Something tells me that the "Combatant Clergy Association" 'ain't exactly Army Chaplains.
In any case, if nothing is done - AND - "Iran" gets Nuclear Weapons - our position as regards the EU actually becomes stronger. Think about it, who else has workable Anti-Missile Systems except Israel, and we know the EU will NOT buy weapons from Israel. At that point, our response to the EU can be "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?" Discussion?

-S-

118 wanglese  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:55:44pm

The solution is simple.

Iran claims it is not interested in building a nuke. El-Baradei says they aren't interested in building a nuke.

When Iran builds a nuke, they have to test one. As soon as they test one,: Step 1: arrest, and summarily execute El-Baradei.

Step 2:Israel and the US turn Tehran into vitrified glass. None of the surrounding countries will object. A nuclear armed Iran would be a worry for every surrounding country.

Step 3: Warn the surrounding countries to pull their head in.

Step 4: Dissassemble the United Nations General Assembly, and the Security Council, and start again. You don't get to be a member in the new body unless you hold democratic elections on a regular basis.

119 Bosch Fawstin  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:58:37pm

An added reason to do what needs to be done, Mo's threatening resignation if Israel actually does what they're threatening to do in order to end the Iranian nuclear threat. In fiction, naming the UN's nuclear watchdog Mohammed would be too much, but in real life, his name was very likely considered as an important factor in his appointment.

120 Edouard  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:59:48pm

Mohammed ElBaradei is a "watchdog" in the sense that, as Iran's lapdog, he "watches" for his treats, while performing tricks at Iran's signal.

121 BirdFLU  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:01:48pm

I'm trying to follow Al-Baradei's position. He seems upset that Iran won't let his inspectors in, this makes him think the Iranians are developing weapons. He thinks they should NOT have the weapons, otherwise he wouldn't care if his inspectors got in. He thinks the Iranians will have at least one weapon within 6 months to a year. He is not in favor of a military strike to stop this "bad thing" from happening. I haven't seen him say anywhere what his proposed solution is. He seems upset because his inspectors can't go in and confirm what he suspects, that Iran is building nuclear weapons. So if he finds out that they are building them, what does he think should happen?

I think if he was in Iran's pocket he wouldn't be saying some of the things he is saying. It's also obvious that if he really believed in doing what he is charged with doing he wouldn't be saying the things he does either.

Seriously, I can't figure out what his opinion or plan is. It seems his only goal is to get his inspectors in and that's it. All I can gather from his seemingly conflicting statements is that he is a huge egomaniac; the only important thing to him is that Iran recognize his authority and let his inspectors in.

Anybody got an alternate theory?

122 infidelia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:03:58pm

re: #106 littleben

Some constructive suggestions for Israel;
1.Jericho Missile to the well housing the 12th Imam; destroys DinnerJackets command and communication system;
2. Arm the Iranian Kurds and foment a guerrilla warfare front;
3.Offer a Ten Million Dollar prize to the Iranian who sends Dinner Jacket to his 72 Houris; Five Million for arranging eternal Viagra free bliss for the Ayatollah.

Other suggestions are welcome.

This goes to the point the "officials" appear to be determined to evade, namely that Ahmadhimwit is ideology-driven in a manner which is fueled, not deterred, by threats of violence. Nor does he care what happens to Iran. Getting rid of MA, the Ayatollah, the mullahs, and the imaginary troll in the well will probably go much further towards neutralizing the danger in Iran. Then we're free to worry about what the rest of Dr. A.Q.Khan's nuke smuggling network's customers are up to.

Why people know enough to lock up paranoid schizos in the general population but think diplomacy will work with the ones who are in charge of governments despite the many times it has been demonstrated not to, is a mystery.

123 sojerofgod  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:23:50pm

re: #122 infidelia

Because they think they can change the psycho lunatic murderers into cute lil' bunny wabbits and hope they are not wrong.
That's Obamapolitics at it's finest.

124 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:25:34pm

We should thank ElBaradei.

Now he should go out into the desert with a pen - never to be seen again.

125 infidelia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:40:59pm

re: #123 sojerofgod

Because they think they can change the psycho lunatic murderers into cute lil' bunny wabbits and hope they are not wrong.
That's Obamapolitics at it's finest.

Mmmph. More like 6 foot tall invisible bunnies named "Harvey".

126 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:51:13pm

If all we seem to get are corrupt and biased UN leaders, why can't they enrich and aid us with their malfeasance? They always waste their immorality and lack of ethics on little places that are hard to spell.

127 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:02:04pm

re: #126 David IV of Georgia

If all we seem to get are corrupt and biased UN leaders, why can't they enrich and aid us with their malfeasance? They always waste their immorality and lack of ethics on little places that are hard to spell.

"Dave IV" -

Are you suggesting that UN Officials can be "Rented?"
/s/

-S-

128 Wm T Sherman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:06:21pm

re: #118 wanglese

The solution is simple.

Iran claims it is not interested in building a nuke. El-Baradei says they aren't interested in building a nuke.

When Iran builds a nuke, they have to test one. As soon as they test one,: Step 1: arrest, and summarily execute El-Baradei.

Step 2:Israel and the US turn Tehran into vitrified glass. None of the surrounding countries will object. A nuclear armed Iran would be a worry for every surrounding country.

Step 3: Warn the surrounding countries to pull their head in.

Step 4: Dissassemble the United Nations General Assembly, and the Security Council, and start again. You don't get to be a member in the new body unless you hold democratic elections on a regular basis.

El Baradei has been screwing us over as much as our leaders have allowed him to. The time to force him out was years ago. There is no case for doing anything to him after Iran gets its bomb.

The population of Tehran does not deserve to die. You should not post monstrous proposals like that. It will never happen anyway -- but statements such as those, besides being quite wicked, reflect badly on this site and can be put to use by its detractors.

129 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:08:29pm

re: #127 Dr. Shalit

"Dave IV" -

Are you suggesting that UN Officials can be "Rented?"
/s/

-S-

More like saying if we are going to have a cesspool in Lower Manhattan, it ought to either process our waste or be paved over. With few exceptions, all it ever seems to do is aid those who hate us. If we are going to pay for and aid corruption, we should at least benefit.

130 Wm T Sherman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:08:54pm

If you get rid of comment 118, I suggest getting rid of comment 128 as well. I should not have quoted #118.

131 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:19:29pm

re: #129 David IV of Georgia

"Dave IV" -

OK, I am in a "kick" mood tonight and WILL say it. The appropriate UN Officials were "RENTED" - and - STAYED "RENTED" - by Saddam Hussein al Tikriti - Until the "RENT" stopped. Getting it off my chest felt GOOD!

-S-

132 Independent Voter123  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:29:31pm

I fear that the IAEA chief's statement makes the chances of Tehran's weather report of 5,000 degrees and cloudy much more probable. I pray and hope it's not so, but the Iranian government is heading the world into a terrible crisis.

133 kansas  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:47:47pm

Unfortunately it appears this is going to be what it takes to wake the American people up. I'm Rick James.....Duck and cover bitch.

134 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:48:56pm

Ok Everyone -

Have to give Windows Vista a "Kudo." Plugged my old Epson Stylus Photo 820 (M) to my new 'pute. It recognized the machine, and brought up the driver to make it work in about 15-20 seconds. Legacy stuff seems to connect and work quickly. I am impressed.

-S-

135 Independent Voter123  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:10:55pm

re: #133 kansas

Rick James?! You must be a superfreak! It's stanky time!

136 BIGDUKE 6  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:16:00pm

re: #10 Honorary Yooper

In other words, Al-Baradei does not want us to stop Iran from doing what Iran wants to do.

Its OK to turn the middle east into a ball of fire as long as little Israel is at the epicenter. (sarc)

137 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:16:24pm

re: #135 Independent Voter123

Rick James?! You must be a superfreak! It's stanky time!

"I-V123" -

Just tell me one thing, "Is Fred still Dead? Oh, that was Super-Fly - my bad.

-S-

138 Independent Voter123  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:21:48pm

re: #137 Dr. Shalit

Rick James had body odor, but his tunes were oh so sweet! Check out Jermaine Stewart videos, too! Good tunes!

139 pegcity  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:22:51pm
U.S. Ponders Diplomatic Post in IranOfficials say Bush administration floating idea of establishing de facto embassy in Tehran, first in three decades

This adminstration has lost their collective minds.

140 BIGDUKE 6  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:25:41pm

re: #122 infidelia

This goes to the point the "officials" appear to be determined to evade, namely that Ahmadhimwit is ideology-driven in a manner which is fueled, not deterred, by threats of violence. Nor does he care what happens to Iran. Getting rid of MA, the Ayatollah, the mullahs, and the imaginary troll in the well will probably go much further towards neutralizing the danger in Iran. Then we're free to worry about what the rest of Dr. A.Q.Khan's nuke smuggling network's customers are up to.

Why people know enough to lock up paranoid schizos in the general population but think diplomacy will work with the ones who are in charge of governments despite the many times it has been demonstrated not to, is a mystery.

Perhaps the same question should have been asked concerning Hitler back in the 1930's

141 BIGDUKE 6  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:29:25pm

re: #24 zombie

So, let me get this straight. ElBaradei is saying:

a. Iran is going to get nukes SOON!
b. Attacking them to stop them would be the worst thing possible!

So, what conclusion can we draw from this? Only two:

1. He WANTS Iran to get nukes;
...or...
2. He actually thinks, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that Iran can be "negotiated" out of building nukes. In which case he is insane.

Either way: He's GOT TO GO as UN weapons inspector. Get someone in there who has some teeth!

Hopeless. The UN only Uses its teeth when condemning Israel.

142 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:39:04pm

So you wake up one morning and all over the news everywhere is the big news that Tel Aviv has been nuked, casualties expected to be very high.

Do we really want this scenario to become a real possibility? That fatalistic islamist regime in Iran believes that with the destruction of Israel they will become the darlings and natural leaders of the region.

Attacking Iran's nuke capabilities won't be easy. I don't think Israel has the capabilities to do it alone, only the USA, unless Israel opts to go the nuclear route.

And if that extreme action must be taken, expect all kinds of surprises you weren't thinking about, and some of them very painful.

The biggest single question remaining, since we know that we cannot wait until Inauguration Day 2009, is when would this happen? I would appear to be after the election has been decided, but not a whole lot later.

143 Challenger  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 7:43:37pm

Well, no time to waste then.

144 canadianally  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 7:51:59pm

re: #128 Wm T Sherman

El Baradei has been screwing us over as much as our leaders have allowed him to. The time to force him out was years ago. There is no case for doing anything to him after Iran gets its bomb.

The population of Tehran does not deserve to die. You should not post monstrous proposals like that. It will never happen anyway -- but statements such as those, besides being quite wicked, reflect badly on this site and can be put to use by its detractors.

I agree 100%. But what if the regime decides to place their facilities in population centres? I have seen this type of tactic before amongst Hezbollah.

145 Grandma  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 7:53:22pm

If Iran manages to produce a nuclear program/bomb, it challenges my thinking process to wonder what they’ll do with it. At first they may just pound their collective Shia mumbo-jumbo chests and threaten their so-called enemies, and the UN nuclear attack-kitten, El Baradei, might quit his job; that would be monumental (not). The rest of the world will jump up and down condemning and/or praising their efforts, depending upon their position with Iran. And then there’s the 12th Imam mumbo-jumbo. Wouldn’t it be interesting, if after Iran puts in place a nuclear weapon program to bring about the “last days”, that the Mahdi jumps out of the well and turns out to be a woman? That would be poetic justice if you ask me.

If the Iranian mumbo-jumbo council and president choose to lob one or more off, how can they guarantee that the technology they received from A.Q. Khan, Russia (think Chernobyl), et al will actually work precisely? They’ve stated repeatedly that Israel would be their first target, and then probably the Great Satan, the US. Can they really trust that the sellers of such technology/weapons would not have ripped them off? Maybe a launch such as that will just wipe out the entire Gaza Strip. That will fix the Israel/”Palestine” question; there might just not be a Palestine after that. One aimed at the US might just hit Cuba. I don’t know if the Iranians have ever heard of “Murphy’s Law”.

That would just be for starters, if they chose that route. The blowback for them from the first nuclear attack in more than 60 years would not go unretaliated. Persia would cease to exist except in history books like ancient Rome, much less Iran and the Mahdi. So much for mumbo-jumbo.

And yes, a lot of people who didn’t earn or deserve a rotten and violent death would cease to exist. The most unique gift the Almighty gave to humans is the ability to think abstractly. Those who use that gift to glorify Him are blessed. Those that use it to believe in Allah the Deceiver’s mumbo-jumbo are complicit in their own, and others, downfall. Those who support that with their funds, presence, belief, verbal commitments, and prayers are not “innocents”. Maybe the Shia Iranian population is not as innocent as we give them credit for. Iran had a revolution almost thirty years ago. They could have another one and get rid of all the mumbo-jumbo and turn their nation into one of peace and prosperity. That remains to be seen.

Just Grandma’s $.02 on a lovely Carolina evening. Have a nice day and tell your friends.

146 freedombilly  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 8:03:51pm

I can't believe that the MSM didn't report the small detail of Iran possibly having a nuke within six months. It must have been an innocent oversight.

Wink wink.

147 drogheda  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 8:07:21pm

re: #142 really grumpy big dog Johnson

So you wake up one morning and all over the news everywhere is the big news that Tel Aviv has been nuked, casualties expected to be very high.

I expect that if this should come to pass you would probably also be hearing reports that Tehran, Damascus, and multiple other large cities and military bases in the Middle East had suffered retaliatory strikes. Unless of course you were to catch it as it was breaking news. In which case you'd learn of the retaliatory strikes shortly thereafter.

148 Macker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 8:15:55pm

re: #106 littleben

Some constructive suggestions for Israel;
1.Jericho Missile to the well housing the 12th Imam; destroys DinnerJackets command and communication system;
2. Arm the Iranian Kurds and foment a guerrilla warfare front;
3.Offer a Ten Million Dollar prize to the Iranian who sends Dinner Jacket to his 72 Houris virgin DEMONS with anvil-shaped genitalia; Five Million for arranging eternal Viagra free bliss Hellfire K-Y for the Ayatollah.

Other suggestions are welcome.

There, fixed that for ya!

149 Macker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 8:17:44pm

re: #145 Grandma

The Iranian PERSIAN People's time is running out...either depose the Mullahs and Mr. Dinner Jacket...or you go down in flames along with them!

150 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:05:54pm

re: #25 BGOH

So let me get this straight...Iran is effectively six months to a year away from being able to produce a nuclear weapon, and this asshat would only be disappointed if the U.S. and Israel act to prevent a radical, fundamentalist regime from getting to that point?

Could someone please explain to me what in the hell the mission of the IAEA was supposed to be when it was created? This is seriously, seriously messed up, and I'm having a very hard time self-censoring right now.

To be fair, his stated position is that while Iran could build a weapon in that amount of time, he doesn't think they will. He thinks the whole program is a matter of national pride. They need nuclear electricity, see, and they don't want to be dependent on the outside world for the enriched fuel.

It's OK to be dependent on the outside world for the turbines, the generators, and so on. That's not a matter of national pride. It isn't very urgent either. By and by, Iran will purchase what it needs for its nuclear electric generation. For the moment, the thing is to have one's very own independent capability to enrich uranium to fuel-grade levels. Or further, if it were to become necessary. As befits an historically mighty empire.

How can this alleged grownup tell this story with a straight face and expect his audience to swallow it?

151 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:25:22pm

re: #145 Grandma

If Iran manages to produce a nuclear program/bomb, it challenges my thinking process to wonder what they’ll do with it. At first they may just pound their collective Shia mumbo-jumbo chests and threaten their so-called enemies, and the UN nuclear attack-kitten, El Baradei, might quit his job; that would be monumental (not). The rest of the world will jump up and down condemning and/or praising their efforts, depending upon their position with Iran. And then there’s the 12th Imam mumbo-jumbo. Wouldn’t it be interesting, if after Iran puts in place a nuclear weapon program to bring about the “last days”, that the Mahdi jumps out of the well and turns out to be a woman? That would be poetic justice if you ask me.

If the Iranian mumbo-jumbo council and president choose to lob one or more off, how can they guarantee that the technology they received from A.Q. Khan, Russia (think Chernobyl), et al will actually work precisely? They’ve stated repeatedly that Israel would be their first target, and then probably the Great Satan, the US. Can they really trust that the sellers of such technology/weapons would not have ripped them off? Maybe a launch such as that will just wipe out the entire Gaza Strip. That will fix the Israel/”Palestine” question; there might just not be a Palestine after that. One aimed at the US might just hit Cuba. I don’t know if the Iranians have ever heard of “Murphy’s Law”.

That would just be for starters, if they chose that route. The blowback for them from the first nuclear attack in more than 60 years would not go unretaliated. Persia would cease to exist except in history books like ancient Rome, much less Iran and the Mahdi. So much for mumbo-jumbo.

And yes, a lot of people who didn’t earn or deserve a rotten and violent death would cease to exist. The most unique gift the Almighty gave to humans is the ability to think abstractly. Those who use that gift to glorify Him are blessed. Those that use it to believe in Allah the Deceiver’s mumbo-jumbo are complicit in their own, and others, downfall. Those who support that with their funds, presence, belief, verbal commitments, and prayers are not “innocents”. Maybe the Shia Iranian population is not as innocent as we give them credit for. Iran had a revolution almost thirty years ago. They could have another one and get rid of all the mumbo-jumbo and turn their nation into one of peace and prosperity. That remains to be seen.

Just Grandma’s $.02 on a lovely Carolina evening. Have a nice day and tell your friends.

Sorry, but wiping out nations isn't something to be done lightly. That's a lot of people to just go and kill. It's cruel and extravagant. Precedents would be set, and down the road, more nations would get incinerated. Still other nations, fearing that fate, might be driven to extremes they would not otherwise risk. Let's not go there if there's any other choice.


If Iran were to make a relatively ineffectual nuclear attack on somebody, would it not suffice, as a preventive to more such attacks and an object lesson to interested third parties, to mount a gloves-off conventional military attack on Iran with the war aim of capturing or killing anyone who had anything to do with the attack, and disabling the economy so thoroughly that no nuclear program could be reestablished for decades?

The leadership would not easily find safe haven abroad. Shia Islam's center of power is Iran. There is no "Berzerkistan" just over the horizon offering sanctuary. This same leadership would not easily find safe haven in a guerrilla war. We have that game figured out. Colonels, technicians, Imams, Ministers and members of parliament---all would have to serve 25 year sentences. Ringleaders would be executed. Everything useful to their weapons program would be destroyed, most particularly all generators and power distribution infrastructure. That would be the price of having used it to commit mass murder.

152 Abu Kuffar  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 2:43:11am

He should be fired if Iran gets the nuke

153 A.W.  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 6:11:38am

He said he will quit if Iran is attacked.

Um, is that a promise?

154 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 6:34:13am

Muhammad Al-Baradei:

If Iran wants to turn to the production of nuclear weapons, it must leave the NPT, expel the IAEA inspectors, and then it would need at least... Considering the number of centrifuges and the quantity of uranium Iran has...

It didn't take long for the Mullah's to take the que from ElBaradei's script: Iran being pressured to quit NPT: official

155 SunCat  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 7:23:55am

Muhammad Al-Baradei: It would need at least six months to one year. Therefore, Iran will not be able to reach the point where we would wake up one morning to an Iran with a nuclear weapon.


Orwellian doublethink. It takes a lot of education to make someone so stupid.

156 Alibaba  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 12:27:25pm

"Iranians living in the West" - does that include the ones who fled for their lives?re: #10 Honorary Yooper

157 korla pundit  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 7:39:32pm

Oh, thank god I have six months to live. And here I thought there was something to worry about.

Whew.

158 Korla Pundit  Tue, Jun 24, 2008 7:41:09pm

> He should be fired if Iran gets the nuke

Yes. Out of a Navy gun.


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