Whoa! Charles is up early!

And the truce is only broken when Israel fires.

Well at least we come away from this knowing it only takes 5 days for them to regroup and rearm themselves.

Just what are the option for an act of war?

visualize whirled peas

re: #1 vxbush

Whoa! Charles is up early!

shhh...
you'll scare him off!

5 days in which to smuggle in food, medical supplies, books, weapons.

This is Israel 2008, where words have no meaning.

The barbarians can fire as many rockets as they like. The truce continues.

....animals.

re: #6 friarstale

shhh...
you'll scare him off!

^sorry.

Charles, don't miss the concert tonight at the Greek! T-Bone Burnett, Allison Kraus and Robert Plant.

Tell me it isn't so!

Militants in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip

Wait, wait, that can't be right, Israel "occupies" Gaza, everyone knows that.

/

I'm surprised al-Reuters did not describe the rocket attacks at poor Palestinian children playing with homemade toy rockets, that somehow accidentally got filled with ball bearings and wound up crashing down in Israel.

I'm sure Israel will get blamed for breaking the truce.

re: #2 vxbush

And the truce is only officially broken when Israel fires.

re: #15 Golem Akbar

Islamic Jihad is blaming Israel for killing one of its terrorists in the West Bank, who was busy plotting to kill Israelis, but didn't get the chance to do it first...

Charles, I thought that initially you gave them 6 hours until they broke the ceasefire. At the time, I thought that a far more likely number. Five days does seem amazing.

Shaken, not stirred.

Who won the office pool on this truce?

Must have nearly killed them.

Might could be a pun in there :)

shaken not stirred?

I called it. LFG said the truce would last 3 days. I said that LFG was too pessimistic and that the truce would last 5 days. Take the Lizzard man!

The Palestinians managed to go five whole days without attempting to commit murder. Must have nearly killed them.

Five whole minutes would be enough for that.

re: #17 lawhawk

Islamic Jihad is blaming Israel for killing one of its terrorists in the West Bank, who was busy plotting to kill Israelis, but didn't get the chance to do it first...

Next, the media will announce that it was Israel's fault, all along.

Good moorning Charles!
How's sunrise on the Left coast?

Why is it that "militants" fire rockets at land (Israel), but the "Palestinians" are always the ones killed by Israeli troops?

Don't "militants" ever get attacked. Guess not.

Good morning, Lizards.

This is troubling:
"...after Israeli troops killed two Palestinians..."

This suggests that the rockets were a result of the Israeli troops' action. I want to know WHY the troops killed the Palestinians (I have no doubt that was an appropriate action, but we're not told what the provocation was).

Another thing: Israeli TROOPS. In uniform, representing their country. Even if their action had been a mistake in some way, the CIVILIZED response is a diplomatic one, not a military one.

“This is a blatant violation of the calm, and we will weigh options,” an aide quoted Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as saying after the rockets struck.

Fire back. Seems like a good option.

re: #15 Golem Akbar

I'm sure Israel will get blamed for breaking the truce.

they already have. some islamic resistant something or another terrorist was killed in the west bank afew days ago. He was a terror leader and the palis respond by shooting missles at civilians. cease fire, schmeesh fire..

“This is a blatant violation of the calm..."

In other news the sky was blue and grass is green.

I don't mean to jest when lives are being lost, but this whole truce thing smacks of Lucy pulling the football away for about the ten thousandth time. It's so not a surprise any more, you have to wonder why the Jews bother to even play the game.

Must have nearly killed them.

We should only be so lucky.

re: #18 Yashmak

real restraint,
Hamas still claims they hold the truce, since it was 'Islamic Jihad', who fired the rockets.

We didn't shoot off any rockets and if you say we did, we'll bomb you. -militants

Any connection between this and the Tel Aviv airport business?

the koranamals are adicted to murder so after 5 days they were in heavy withdrawl

re: #19 Ben Hur

Shaken, not stirred.

Ya beat me to it.
Hur. Ben Hur.

Can we say now the Palis have no interest in peace?

re: #37 Hard Right

Ya beat me to it.
Hur. Ben Hur.

And Loppy.

re: #35 redheadredstate

what is happening at the airport?

re: #38 jcm

Can we say now the Palis have no interest in peace?

That would only be stating the monstrously obvious.

I called this on Thursday - not that it would last as long as it has, but that the terrorist groups would play the blame game to avoid saying that the truce has indeed been broken (the attack cited in the following quote was in the West Bank when Palestinian terrorists opened fire on a bunch of Israeli hikers):

This report notes three injured in the attack. And Hamas has reported that it will act as though there's a West Bank truce. Right. Stop laughing. I'm serious. They actually said this before the latest terrorist attack by Palestinian gunmen in the West Bank.

Will they claim that this attack was launched by some faction beyond their control? I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they'll do. They'll blame Fatah or another faction to claim that they're undermining the process, even though they fully condone such activities.

And this statement by one of the Hamas thugs tells you all you need to know. The truce is nothing but a sham - a hudna to give the terrorist group a chance to regroup and rearm. Israel and the rest of the world gave it to them, and Israel will suffer more for it.

re: #15 Golem Akbar

I'm sure Israel will get blamed for breaking the truce.

Well, Reuters certainly blames Israel. Of course, we can't blame them -- disseminating anti-Israeli propaganda is their job.

Militants in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip fired at least two rockets into southern Israel on Tuesday, breaching a five-day-old ceasefire after Israeli troops killed two Palestinians in the occupied West Bank.

Later, in the next-to-last paragraph of the article, Reuters gets around to saying who broke the truce:

Earlier on Tuesday, the Israeli army confirmed that Palestinians fired a mortar shell into Israel from Gaza overnight in the first reported violation by militants of the ceasefire. No one was hurt in that incident and there was no immediate claim of responsibility.

re: #29 bosforus

Fire back. Seems like a good option.

But that would break the truce!
///

re: #31 theheat

In other news the sky was blue and grass is green.

I don't mean to jest when lives are being lost, but this whole truce thing smacks of Lucy pulling the football away for about the ten thousandth time. It's so not a surprise any more, you have to wonder why the Jews bother to even play the game.

Caroline Glick has the answer. I'll repost it in the links.

re: #23 joegelman

I called it. LFG said the truce would last 3 days. I said that LFG was too pessimistic and that the truce would last 5 days. Take the Lizzard man!

Not so fast.

The truce/fantasy officially didn't make five days. Started on Thursday morning and the first rocket attack was Monday night.

But players don't throw away your tickets yet- the official cease fire continues. We can't let rocket fire interfere with a Mideast truce.

re: #41 Hard Right

That would only be stating the monstrously obvious.

But, But Rabbit Bait promised!
//

re: #39 Ben Hur

And Loppy.

Yup. Scrolled too fast thru the posts.

I love it. It's like I sign a truce with a neighbor, then my brother who is also a neighbor blasts his house with an RPG and I say the truce isn't broken. It's just insane.

Peace in Our Time

[Pet peeve: The actual Neville Chamberlain quote was "peace for our time"]

You called it Charles, you were only off by (2) days....

Gaza Truce Shaken - IDF Stirred

re: #49 Occasional Reader

[Pet peeve: The actual Neville Chamberlain quote was "peace for our time"]

I know, but ya gotta go with what people know...

Earlier on Tuesday, the Israeli army confirmed that Palestinians fired a mortar shell into Israel from Gaza overnight in the first reported violation by militants of the ceasefire.

re: #49 Occasional Reader

[Pet peeve: The actual Neville Chamberlain quote was "peace for our time"]

Maybe he was misquoted, and it was "peace for A time", in which case he was correct.

/loony unkie Pat

re: #49 Occasional Reader

[Pet peeve: The actual Neville Chamberlain quote was "peace for our time"]

/I think it was Wilt Chamberlain who said "pieces in our time."

But it was only a few shells, whats the problem. /

re: #52 Charles

I know, but ya gotta go with what people know...

NO, CHARLES, NO! NEVER encourage ignorance. If what people know is wrong, correct them. Words matter so much...

re: #29 bosforus Seems like the only viable option.
And I had three days in the office pool, damnit!

re: #53 bosforus

in the first reported violation

Anyone know the magic number of violations that calls off a fake cease fire?

re: #15 Golem Akbar

I'm sure Israel will get blamed for breaking the truce.

If you note, roto-Reuters already started by saying this was after Israeli troops killed two terrorists (they don't use that word, though) in the West Bank.
They were Islamic Jihad terrorists (is there any other kind of jihad than islamic?) and they aren't part of the cease-fire; neither is the West Bank.

It's Hamas's usual good terrorist, bad terrorist game. I wonder how much the membership between Hamas and Islamic Jihad overlaps?

...ooh what a surprise...way past my twelve hour prediction...I guess they were just waiting for a juicy moment...

What surprise

:/

re: #56 jainphx

But it was only a few shells, whats the problem. /

Or, Hamas: the Joos made me do it.

re: #49 Occasional Reader

I thought it was "Peas on our tie!"

Same Sh*t different day with those MObots. I'm thinking of taking my next vacation in Israel as a sign of solidarity with the JOOOOS. Maybe stop by and see JC's old stomping ground. The only thing I'm worried about is some MObot attempting to nab 72 virgins near my family while on vacation. What to do?

re: #54 OldLineTexan

Maybe he was misquoted, and it was "peace for A time", in which case he was correct.

/loony unkie Pat

or maybe : peace for some time

re: #39 Ben Hur

And Loppy.

damn.

re: #61 Orbit Rain

...ooh what a surprise...way past my twelve hour prediction...I guess they were just waiting for a juicy moment...

What surprise

:/

They needed to finish rearming.

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom

NO, CHARLES, NO! NEVER encourage ignorance. If what people know is wrong, correct them. Words matter so much...

The goddess has spoken!

re: #58 realwest

Seems like the only viable option.
And I had three days in the office pool, damnit!

Well, I majorly lost the office pool. I didn't think it would last one day, much less three, or the five it actually did.

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess} - um, I don't think it's a really good idea to correct Charles on stuff like that, ya know? For, in, what's the diff?
/moonbat hat off.

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

This is troubling:
"...after Israeli troops killed two Palestinians..."

This suggests that the rockets were a result of the Israeli troops' action. I want to know WHY the troops killed the Palestinians (I have no doubt that was an appropriate action, but we're not told what the provocation was).

Another thing: Israeli TROOPS. In uniform, representing their country. Even if their action had been a mistake in some way, the CIVILIZED response is a diplomatic one, not a military one.

From this article:

Meanwhile, two Islamic Jihad gunmen, one of them a senior operative by the name of Tarek abu Ghally, 25, were killed in a joint IDF-Shin Bet operation Monday night in Nablus.

The army said the two were killed in exchanges of fire that ensued during an attempt to arrest them.

According to the military, Ghally was planning to carry out a terror attack in Israel "in the very near future."

The soldiers found large amounts of weapons and ammunition on his person.

re: #67 Golem Akbar

They needed to finish rearming.

You try schlepping rockets through tunnels from Egypt.

/backbreaking, I tells ya
//I don't know how those girls do it

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom

NO, CHARLES, NO! NEVER encourage ignorance. If what people know is wrong, correct them. Words matter so much...

I agree completely, especially when it comes to important topics like the "intelligent design" hoax. _cough

But when it's a well-known phrase, I'd spend more time dealing with people trying to "correct" the correct version than it's worth, just to make a simple point in a headline.

re: #62 Golem Akbar

The problem is the Israeli's fought back, We all know that's not allowed. /

Well it's been grand as ususal y'all but I gotta run and do some chores and all.
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you all down the road!

re: #76 realwest

Catch you later, Handsome....

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

JERUSALEM - Police say three Palestinian rockets have hit southern Israel and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office says the cease-fire that took effect last week has been broken.

Islamic Jihad militants in the Gaza Strip says they carried out the attack to avenge an Israeli military raid that killed one of their fighters in the West Bank early Tuesday.
Israel's national rescue service says two people were lightly wounded in the rocket barrage.
The West Bank is not formally part of the truce. But Islamic Jihad says it "cannot keep its hands tied" when its "brothers" in the West Bank are being targeted.
However, the Gaza Strip's ruling Hamas group says it remains committed to the truce.
Israeli troops killed two Palestinians in the West Bank raid.

Just wondering, because this does kind of change things, or am I missing the point?

The usual suspects will excuse it by pointing out that it was Islamic Jihad (can we call them that?) and not SAMAH.

You know, the same people who say things like "But...but...so and so regime is secular...."

re: #40 2by2

what is happening at the airport?

Sorry bout the late reply I had a bit of work to take care of. Fox News is reporting that the French Pres Sarkozy and Olmert had to be whisked away because of an explosion at the airport. Something about an Israeli soldier accidentally shooting himself and he's in critical condition.

re: #71 realwest

Good morning {goddess} - um, I don't think it's a really good idea to correct Charles on stuff like that, ya know? For, in, what's the diff?
/moonbat hat off.

When someone says, "Same difference," I want to SCREAM!

You lucky I love you anyway...

{realwest}!

re: #80 redheadredstate

oh, ok thanks

Maybe he was misquoted, and it was "peace for A time", in which case he was correct.

Neville Chamberlain didn't have a choice. The RAF wasn't ready for war in 1938.

I don't know what Olmert's excuse is.

/Good morning you drunken heathens!

re: #60 Kosh's Shadow

I wonder how much the membership between Hamas and Islamic Jihad overlaps?

Well, you know with the Balestinian unemployment situation and the lack of productive skills, sometimes these guys have to take two jobs. The IDF didn't check to see if they had their Hamas membership card with them.

/LLL

NO/ DEFEAT

LIBERTY

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

When someone says, "Same difference," I want to SCREAM!

You lucky I love you anyway...

{realwest}!

My favorite is: Half of one, six dozen of the other. But that's just me.

re: #80 redheadredstate

He fainted and he gun went off.

re: #2 vxbush

And the truce is only broken when Israel fires.

Yeah, the IDF Commander woke up and said: "lets end this truce, Jaochin Ben Hur, go kill a couple of those innocent Hamas do-gooders"

Well, the "truce" lasted longer than I expected. (I picked 2hrs 17 min) but I guess the Hamas higher ups were able to convince the boys on the firing line that they need a little bit more time to stock up on weapons and supplies.

I think to win the pool though you should have at least picked days and hours. Just picking the day is too easy.

re: #74 Charles

USE BOTH VERSION s just state this is the correct one

re: #47 jcm

But, But Rabbit Bait promised!
//

There are no pacts between lions and men -Achillies.

re: #74 Charles

I agree completely, especially when it comes to important topics like the "intelligent design" hoax. _cough

But when it's a well-known phrase, I'd spend more time dealing with people trying to "correct" the correct version than it's worth, just to make a simple point in a headline.

Oh, I understand, but I fight a similar battle in my class room, and I hate to see any crack in the dam.

BTW, I want to thank you for the ID expose. Although I hate the contentiousness of some of the threads, I must admit that I was oblivious to the insidiousness of the political agenda behind it.

re: Olmert/Sarkozy whisked away at airport.

An Israeli soldier (or policeman) fell from a roof and died; apparently a weapon misfired as well.

An IDF soldier was reportedly killed Tuesday in the middle of a farewell ceremony at Ben-Gurion airport held in honor of French President Nicolas Sarkozy, in attendance of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President Shimon Peres and other state dignitaries, Israel Radio reported.

Channel 1, however, reported that the soldier's condition was serious and he was receiving emergency medical treatment.

A police spokesman said the policeman had committed suicide.

The soldier apparently fell from a vantage point he was occupying on a high building, from he was securing the event, and a bullet misfired from his gun.

According to Israel Radio, the incident happened no more than 200 meters from where Olmert was standing.

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

"I could care less" is another one that irks me. My response to someone using this is typically, "Well, if you could care less, then why don't you".

Just adding my two shekels to this sidebar.

re: #78 jpfletcher

Just wondering, because this does kind of change things, or am I missing the point?

Did you expect ISrael to wait until they IJ from the West Bank carried out the attack?

Pre-empting an imiment attack from the West Bank probably trumps a Gaza cease fire, no?

I don't know ...

"Peace In Our Time Called Off (Note: The Correct Phrase is 'Peace For Our Time')"...

...just doesn't have the same ring to it..

It is pizza, pizza for our time...

re: #93 lawhawk

re: Olmert/Sarkozy whisked away at airport.

An Israeli soldier (or policeman) fell from a roof and died; apparently a weapon misfired as well.

Fox News is reporting that it's suicide.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #93 lawhawk

Possible assasination attempt?

re: #64 boatguyjim

Same Sh*t different day with those MObots. I'm thinking of taking my next vacation in Israel as a sign of solidarity with the JOOOOS. Maybe stop by and see JC's old stomping ground. The only thing I'm worried about is some MObot attempting to nab 72 virgins near my family while on vacation. What to do?

You're probably safer in Israel than in some US cities. Go.

re: #64 boatguyjim

Go-you'll love it....

re: #99 MandyManners

Possible assasination attempt?

Did he have crazy eyes and a KIPPA on?!?

re: #86 Golem Akbar

My favorite is: Half of one, six dozen of the other. But that's just me.

I haven't encountered that one!

Isn't a headache to be the best-educated person in a group? :)

(Of course true Lizards are equally well-educated!)

re: #83 Dirk Diggler

Neville Chamberlain didn't have a choice. The RAF wasn't ready for war in 1938.

The Wehrmacht wasn't particularly ready for war in 1938, either. Pound for pound, one of the best-prepared militaries on the continent at the time was that of... Czechoslovakia. And they were handed over without firing a shot. Chamberlain's was a very, very bad idea.

re: #91 Hard Right

There are no pacts between lions and men -Achillies.

That little bit of wisdom has been known and proven time and again for what? 4000 year?

Yet Rabbit Bait, B. Hussein, et. al. act like it's irrelevant.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLES HEADS?

just a suicide

re: #87 Ben Hur

He fainted and he gun went off.

Sounds like somebody was violating the second rule of gun safety, sad to say.

To try to figure out why the Palestinians broke the cease fire is to use an analogy. You have a Golden Retriever pup. You want it to stop chewing, but it continues to chew, because it wants to chew.
The terrorists went back to terror, because they like to terrorize.

re: #86 Golem Akbar

My favorite is: Half of one, six dozen of the other. But that's just me.

Then there's "cheap at half the price".
OK, but is it cheap at the current prices? Shouldn't that be "cheap at twice the price"?

re: #103 goddessoftheclassroom

I haven't encountered that one!

Isn't a headache to be the best-educated person in a group? :)

(Of course true Lizards are equally well-educated!)

/The real curse is my great good looks.

re: #99 MandyManners

Doubtful. Sounds more like the guy jumped or fell, and his weapon misfired after. The security details simply weren't going to take any chances.

O/T - FAUX tribe exposed. Told you so.

re: #108 opnion

They didn't even 'went back' (I mean 'go back' to terror). That's basically all their depraved 'culture' is. The terrorize Jews, their own people, their children, their women...terror 24/7.

re: #94 Just Above Average

"I could care less" is another one that irks me. My response to someone using this is typically, "Well, if you could care less, then why don't you".

Just adding my two shekels to this sidebar.

Oh, that's one of mine, too! I always correct my students on that one.

In my region there are some idioms that drive me crazy:

1. anyways--there is NEVER an S on the end of that word!
2. "hit off of"--no, you hit something ON, not OFF of something else except in baseball.
3. "whenever" when the person really means "when"
4. "where is it at?"

Okay, I'll stop now...

re: #96 Charles

I don't know ...

"Peace In Our Time Called Off (Note: The Correct Phrase is 'Peace For Our Time')"...

...just doesn't have the same ring to it..

And now I'm sorry I said anything...

re: #100 Kosh's Shadow

You're probably safer in Israel than in some US cities. Go.

Back in 2004 in Anbar, my Marines felt safer. They were from Pasadena!

re: #105 jcm

That little bit of wisdom has been known and proven time and again for what? 4000 year?

Yet Rabbit Bait, B. Hussein, et. al. act like it's irrelevant.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLES HEADS?

They're empty.
To be fair, it's a type of mental illness. Sadly, the psychological profession is full of the same people and they will never declare themselves mentally ill.

re: #109 Kosh's Shadow

Then there's "cheap at half the price".
OK, but is it cheap at the current prices? Shouldn't that be "cheap at twice the price"?

I think "cheap at twice the price" was the original aphorism; the "half" version began as a sarcastic rebuttal.

re: #104 Occasional Reader

And the French military was far more mechanized than the Germans until even 1940 (more tanks, trucks, etc.). The French however, thought that the Maginot Line would protect them, even as the Germans decided to maneuver around it entirely. The French never recovered and never attempted to use maneuver warfare against the Germans.

re: #91 Hard Right

There are no pacts between lions and men -Achillies.

In this case, jackals, not lions.

re: #108 opnion

To try to figure out why the Palestinians broke the cease fire is to use an analogy. You have a Golden Retriever pup. You want it to stop chewing, but it continues to chew, because it wants to chew.
The terrorists went back to terror, because they like to terrorize.

It's in their DNA. You know: a day without murdering an Israeli is like a day without sunshine. [old Pali saying]

So let me get this straight.

The Egyptian-brokered truce, which took effect last Thursday, calls on Hamas to prevent cross-border rocket fire from the Gaza Strip...
...Israel agreed to halt its own attacks in the Gaza Strip and ... does not apply to the West Bank.

So that sums up the actual truce, right? Yet Al-Reuters ('slur eater' for you anagram types) says

Militants in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip fired at least two rockets into southern Israel on Tuesday, breaching a five-day-old ceasefire after Israeli troops killed two Palestinians in the occupied West Bank.

They're masters at hiding the truth while still saying it. By mentioning that Hamas broke the truce after Israeli troops killed two Palestinians, they're basically justifying Hamas' actions and blaming Israel. Which is why this sentence is so important.

Earlier on Tuesday, the Israeli army confirmed that Palestinians fired a mortar shell into Israel from Gaza overnight in the first reported violation by militants of the ceasefire.

And at the bottom of the article.

re: #120 Occasional Reader

In this case, jackals, not lions.

I would say fleas, myself.

re: #109 Kosh's Shadow

Then there's "cheap at half the price".
OK, but is it cheap at the current prices? Shouldn't that be "cheap at twice the price"?

I think thaty it means that the asking price is expensive and the good or service should cost half. I always understood it as sarcasm

re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, that's one of mine, too! I always correct my students on that one.

In my region there are some idioms that drive me crazy:

1. anyways--there is NEVER an S on the end of that word!
2. "hit off of"--no, you hit something ON, not OFF of something else except in baseball.
3. "whenever" when the person really means "when"
4. "where is it at?"

Okay, I'll stop now...

OK # 1 is one of my alltime teeth grinders but whenever someone uses ikspecially instead of especially I just want to throttle them!

Sorry, rant off.

re: #121 Golem Akbar

Golem-it's true. I actually thank Hashem every day that goes by that nobody is murdered in Israel-every day that goes by where there isn't a single victim of terror at the hands of Islamic barbarians is a good day.

Five days without murder and mayhem? Is that a Pali record?

re: #103 goddessoftheclassroom

I haven't encountered that one!

Isn't a headache to be the best-educated person in a group? :)

(Of course true Lizards are equally well-educated!)

I always thought it was six of one, half dozen of the other.

I think the over/under on this was five days. I of course chose under.

ΩΣ ΟΥΚ ΕΣΤΙ ΛΕΟΥΣΙ ΚΑΙ ΑΝΔΡΑΣΙΝ ΟΡΚΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΑ

re: #107 Occasional Reader

Sounds like somebody was violating the second rule of gun safety, sad to say.

Though now I'm seeing "suicide" in reports.

It'll take a while to find out everything

Oriented

Orientated

Two of the few that used to drive me to DRINK!Mellowing as I approach the sunset years.

re: #117 Hard Right

They're empty.
To be fair, it's a type of mental illness. Sadly, the psychological profession is full of the same people and they will never declare themselves mentally ill.

A Berkeley study declared conservatism a mental illness....

re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom

Could of
Should of
Would of

/Gawwwwww!

re: #101 WriterMom

Go-you'll love it....

I would love to go with my mom.

I'm kind of ascared, though.

re: #104 Occasional Reader

VERY TRUE

and it is remember that it was from Prague that Israel got it's first arms. a fact i remember.

re: #130 Occasional Reader

That's all Greek to me.

re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, that's one of mine, too! I always correct my students on that one.

In my region there are some idioms that drive me crazy:

12. "hit off of"--no, you hit something ON, not OFF of something else except in baseball.

Okay, I'll stop now...

Baseball: Why do people say "be the ball?"
I always say "be the bat"

Gods willing, Israel will not have to do this dance too much longer, especially given elBaradei's revelations this week. As I have said before, the diplomatic dance being danced by Israel, the US State Department, Iran, and its proxies Hezbollah and Hamas has been to determine who the "aggressor" will be once the shooting starts.

As long as there is supposedly a "truce," the Iranian team is forced into the aggressor role, when it would prefer the American/Israeli side be the aggressor. If Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah are the aggressors, they've had it. If they can make it to where the US/Israel are the aggressors, there is a good chance that the UN and other international bodies could stop us before we take the other side down completely. Also, the Iranians hope to influence Bush's successor, and Bush would like not to hurt McCain's chances.

I think if either Hillary were the nominee and /or McCain had little to no chance, we would have stopped playing this game a while back.

re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom

Don't Stop...don't stop...don't stop!

Language and its correct usage IS important!

I also like to know the history of some well used phrases such as.

"fly in the ointment"

"threw a monkey wrench"

and many others.

re: #131 Ben Hur

Though now I'm seeing "suicide" in reports.

It'll take a while to find out everything

Possibly symbolic?

re: #121 Golem Akbar

It's in their DNA. You know: a day without murdering an Israeli is like a day without sunshine. [old Pali saying]

Unfortunately, that sounds right. It just seems like any concession just emboldens the terrorists & spikes the violence.
I don't think that our Sec. of State gets that.

re: #8 opinionated

'Tis giving new meaning to the word meaningless, is it not?

/channeling the old Irish priests of my childhood.

re: #125 redheadredstate

OK # 1 is one of my alltime teeth grinders but whenever someone uses ikspecially instead of especially I just want to throttle them!

Sorry, rant off.

You're too easy a target. I'm biting my tongue-typing finger...

But the Palestinians are just practicing their culture.

To ask them to stop killing Joooos is akin to cultural genocide.

re: #127 JammieWearingFool

Five days without murder and mayhem? Is that a Pali record?

Hi Jammie!

That is assuming there was no murder and mayhem amongst themselves....

re: #132 vagabond trader

Oriented

Orientated

Two of the few that used to drive me to DRINK!Mellowing as I approach the sunset years.

Preventative !

re: #130 Occasional Reader

ΩΣ ΟΥΚ ΕΣΤΙ ΛΕΟΥΣ Ι ΚΑΙ ΑΝΔΡΑ ΣΙΝ ΟΡΚΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΑ

Yup, that's Greek to me.

re: #130 Occasional Reader

ΩΣ ΟΥΚ ΕΣΤΙ ΛΕΟΥΣ Ι ΚΑΙ ΑΝΔΡΑ ΣΙΝ ΟΡΚΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΑ

From the book of 1 John? (Sorry, my Greek is rusty.)

re: #141 Hard Right

Possibly symbolic?

Symbolic suicide?

re: #137 WriterMom

That's all Greek to me.

"There are no pacts [or 'sure oaths', apparently] between lions and men". So I'm told... by the Intertubes.

re: #104 Occasional Reader

And the Nazis got the arsenal at Skoda.

re: #135 loppyd

Don't be scared. Of course there are risks of random terrorist attacks-but I think that the chances of being the victim of a radom violent crime (not terrorism) in the US, and possibly Canada are probably greater. Actually, in terms of personal safety-I felt much safer at night walking all over Jerusalem by myself-or anywhere in other Israeli cities than I ever did in downtown Toronto.

re: #139 RememberSekhmet?

It doesn't matter whom the true agressor is, it will be in response to something Israel did. Ask the msm. They know all.

re: #151 Occasional Reader

"There are no pacts [or 'sure oaths', apparently] between lions and men".

Where is that quote from?

Good morning all!
The word that people misuse that drives me nuts is IRregardless.
My husband will use it occasionally, then wink at me, because he knows I hate it. Usually results in my throwing a roll of paper towels at him.

re: #135 loppyd

I would love to go with my mom.

I'm kind of ascared, though.

FEAR ISRAELI MEN.

re: #151 Occasional Reader

"There are no pacts [or 'sure oaths', apparently] between lions and men". So I'm told... by the Intertubes.

Ah; "men" I can find, and "sure oaths" (which I might have gone with "solid word"), but I'm not sure which one is lion.

/showoff

re: #133 jcm

A Berkeley study declared conservatism a mental illness....

I heard about that. Amusing considering the source.
Even though she's on hiatus right now, the blogger Dr. Sanity points out clinically how liberalism actually is a mental illness. Her site filled in a lot of gaps I had on my theory of "liberal thinking".

re: #144 Golem Akbar

You're too easy a target. I'm biting my tongue-typing finger...

You callin me easy?

re: #151 Occasional Reader

"There are no pacts [or 'sure oaths', apparently] between lions and men". So I'm told... by the Intertubes.

Or it means "kegger tonight at the Omega Epsilons!", I'm not sure.

re: #150 Ben Hur

Symbolic suicide?

Making a statement I mean.

re: #153 WriterMom

Don't be scared. Of course there are risks of random terrorist attacks-but I think that the chances of being the victim of a radom violent crime (not terrorism) in the US, and possibly Canada are probably greater. Actually, in terms of personal safety-I felt much safer at night walking all over Jerusalem by myself-or anywhere in other Israeli cities than I ever did in downtown Toronto.

I read somewhere that there are more murders per capita in DC than in Bhagdad. U.S out of DC!

re: #157 Ben Hur

OMG. Loppy would be soooo popular in Israel!

re: #145 Sir Lurksalot,

Consider it evolution in action.

re: #155 Ben Hur

Where is that quote from?

Brad Pitt.

I mean, The Iliad.

Well, both, in a way.

re: #163 opnion

Didn't Marion Barry say 'Washington DC is a very safe city, except for all the killings"?

re: #162 Hard Right

Making a statement I mean.

Possibly making a statement, but a personal not political one.

glad the truce was merely shaken and not stirred.

re: #142 opnion

Unfortunately, that sounds right. It just seems like any concession just emboldens the terrorists & spikes the violence.
I don't think that our Sec. of State gets that.

It takes a certain amount of sarcasm or just fatigue to realize that the Palis eat, drink, sleep, and thrive on terrorism and killing. Condi is not there, yet, but someday, if she keeps a functioning brain, she'll come to that conclusion. It's inevitable.

re: #161 Occasional Reader

LOLOLOL

re: #164 WriterMom

OMG. Loppy would be soooo popular in Israel!

Aside from the SPAM.

But Israeli men would wade through raw sh*t to get laid.

re: #78 jpfletcher

Just wondering, because this does kind of change things, or am I missing the point?

Unless one acknowledges that the phallustinians couldn't and wouldn't honour a truce even if they actually wanted to (of which desire there is no evidence), one is indeed missing the point.
In this particular violation, we see at least two lame, bullshit excuses:
1. The Gaza truce does not apply to terror attacks on Israeli civilians prompted by Israeli operations in the West Bank; and,
2. The violation was carried out by a group not controlled by Hamas.
If the Israelis allow these violations to go unpunished then the truce will very quickly become an invitation to terror with impunity.

re: #92 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, I understand, but I fight a similar battle in my class room, and I hate to see any crack in the dam.

Think of these misquotes as random mutations that have proved adaptable--not intelligent but viable.

re: #78 jpfletcher

The truce was between Hamas & Israel. Islamic Jihad was never part of the truce agreement. IJ terrorists continued to engage in terrorism. Israel continued to act against IJ. This action on Israel's part in no way broke the truce. However, the truce agreement did obligate Hamas to at least try to stop other groups from using Gaza to launch attacks on Israel. Hamas failed to do so.

re: #166 Occasional Reader

Brad Pitt.

I mean, The Iliad.

Well, both, in a way.

Thanks.

re: #170 Golem Akbar

Palis eat, drink, sleep, and thrive on terrorism and killing.

Agree. But Condi will NEVER get there.

IMHO, the only thing dumber than predicting the length of any truce with these scum is entering into a truce in the FIRST place.

And would somebody please tell me why so many people insist on putting on 'R' at the end of 'idea'.

re: #146 loppyd

Hi Jammie!

That is assuming there was no murder and mayhem amongst themselves....

Good point. Let's scale that back to five minutes in that case.

How are you?

re: #160 redheadredstate

You callin me easy?

I'd like to call you..

re: #172 Ben Hur

I do think that is more a universal goal. But Israeli men with their "ma ha'shaa" (for the non-Hebe lizards 'do you have the time') line and the "would you like to dreeeeenk a coffeeeeeee". It's just a never ending getting hit-on-parade.

re: #181 Golem Akbar

I'd like to call you..

an idiot? You won't be the first or the last

re: #178 irongrampa

It is so true, But, Israel , I think, will always take the high road, as they are reasonable, rational human beings. One day, I fear, they will have to light the place up, and it will be no one's fault but the morons surrounding them. I salute the Israeli's for their restraint so far, but, they cannot allow this to go on forever.

re: #170 Golem Akbar

It takes a certain amount of sarcasm or just fatigue to realize that the Palis eat, drink, sleep, and thrive on terrorism and killing. Condi is not there, yet, but someday, if she keeps a functioning brain, she'll come to that conclusion. It's inevitable.

Maybe, but at that time, she will just be writing books & doing the talk show circuit like Albright.
She could have had more of a positive impact, but it seems like she got co opted by the State Department bureaucracy, which is pretty Arabist

re: #130 Occasional Reader

ΩΣ ΟΥΚ ΕΣΤΙ ΛΕΟΥΣ Ι ΚΑΙ ΑΝΔΡΑ ΣΙΝ ΟΡΚΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΑ

It's all Greek to me...

re: #174 ContraJihadi

"Blood, toil, tears and sweat"

evolved to

' Blood, sweat and tears '

for instance.

re: #167 WriterMom

Didn't Marion Barry say 'Washington DC is a very safe city, except for all the killings"?

Shouldn't that have been "irregardless of all the killins"

re: #184 CapeCoddah

Very very true what you say.

re: #177 WriterMom

Agree. But Condi will NEVER get there.

You're probably right, but it still amazes me how many politicians never seem to get that very basic point. Who made the analogy about Lucy and the football? It's perfect. Lucy always pulls the football away just before Charlie Brown can kick it. Always. No matter how many promises she makes that she won't do it. The Palis always want to murder Israelis and Jews.

re: #187 Ojoe

"Blood, toil, tears and sweat"

evolved to

' Blood, sweat and tears '

for instance.

The result of indolence, I suppose.

re: #168 Ben Hur

Possibly making a statement, but a personal not political one.

You never know. People have killed themselves to make a point. Too early to tell if it even was a suicide, really.

re: #174 ContraJihadi

Think of these misquotes as random mutations that have proved adaptable--not intelligent but viable.

THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE IF I CAN HELP IT!

/I'm more "fit" than any misquote!

OT

In the last WA Governors race Dino Rossi won the first count by 259 votes, he won the second recount by 42 votes, and lost the third recount by 129 votes.

The WA (D) party had to pay for the recount.

When Gregoire won, so did her donors

In late 2004, when Christine Gregoire's bid to become governor was engulfed in legal challenges, the state Democratic Party sent out a plea for help.

The checks started rolling in almost immediately — $250,000 from the state's largest public-employee union, $50,000 from a tribal-gambling group, $25,000 from the state's main teachers union. Major national political groups also weighed in.

That money, more so than the millions Gregoire received during her campaign, is what ultimately enabled Gregoire to vanquish Republican Dino Rossi.

And those allies have done well under Gregoire.

As governor, she gave thousands of state workers the biggest raises they've seen in more than a decade. She approved a major expansion of tribal gambling. She vastly increased education spending and pushed for big pay raises for teachers.

It is my opinion that WA was a tune up session used by many groups, ACORN, Unions etc... to prepare for the national '08 election.

Got to run--have a great day!

re: #185 opnion

Maybe, but at that time, she will just be writing books & doing the talk show circuit like Albright.
She could have had more of a positive impact, but it seems like she got co opted by the State Department bureaucracy, which is pretty Arabist

Albright is another one who never got it. And she of all people, whose family fled Europe, changed their identity as Jews, and tried to live like others. There is to be no escaping it. It's not just being smart, I guess. Because she is definitely lacking something really basic.

re: #112 Eowyn2

O/T - FAUX tribe exposed. Told you so.

Yes, but the hoaxer's intent was pure - to "raise awareness" of the eeeeeeeevils of the timber industry.

BTW, why don't the governments that allow (and profit from) "deforestation" in their own countries - Brazil, I'm looking in your direction - get any of the blame for "deforestation"? Instead, it's the timber buisnesses & the USA that get the blame?

/I already know the answer, I'm just trying to "raise awareness."

here's a laugh..a certain news agency( goes by the same initials as Atlantic/Pacific) has on one of there web articles that the attack was from "home made rockets"..unbelievable...like that makes it better somehow...homemade.... "why its just kids shooting bottle rockets...homemade ones at that..." their bias makes me ill.

re: #136 yochanan

VERY TRUE

and it is remember that it was from Prague that Israel got it's first arms. a fact i remember.

Israel's first aircraft were Czech-built versions of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 - the Nazi's best fighter. History has a sense of humor sometimes.

re: #125 redheadredstate

OK # 1 is one of my alltime teeth grinders but whenever someone uses ikspecially instead of especially I just want to throttle them!

Sorry, rant off.

True dat

re: #196 Golem Akbar

Golem. You still there?

re: #199 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Israel's first aircraft were Czech-built versions of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 - the Nazi's best fighter. History has a sense of humor sometimes.

"Nazis' Best fighter"... debatable. The FW 190 was superior in most performance aspects. And of course, there's the Me 262.

re: #199 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

the czech understood what it means to be screwed

Well what did y'all expect from a truce?

A truce is nothing more than a break in the action, and is not a cessation of hostilities. If any of the idiots in the Olmert government, along with their like-minded mushheads in the U.S. State Department, think that repeated truces are going to have some sort of positive effect, they're terribly mistaken. The only way Israel is going to have any peace is to go into Gaza (and the West Bank as necessary) and sweep it clean. Anything less only prolongs the problem (and the pain). Drastic? Probably, but at some point, a line has to be drawn. The Palestinians have been skating along without having to answer for their actions for too damned long.

re: #202 Occasional Reader

"Nazis' Best fighter"... debatable. The FW 190 was superior in most performance aspects. And of course, there's the Me 262.

I only said that to bait you, OR.

since the israeli did not nave a air force at the time they were happy to get the planes.

re: #187 Ojoe

"Blood, toil, tears and sweat"
evolved to
' Blood, sweat and tears '
for instance.

And we're so very happy they did!

re: #184 CapeCoddah

Here is hindsight once again, but this should have been addressed quickly, brutally, and thoroughly at the FIRST occurrence. Allowing the mess to fester so long will only make the ultimate resolution far worse than nipping it in the bud early.

To me, the current mess is a classic example of the definition of insanity.

re: #206 yochanan

There were actually many, many non-Jewish pilots and other military people who helped start the Israeli Air Force. The Czechs did understand being screwed and they also needed the money. Actually IIRC the Czechs were the first to have direct flights to Israel once the Berlin Wall fell.

re: #185 opnion

Maybe, but at that time, she will just be writing books & doing the talk show circuit like Albright.
She could have had more of a positive impact, but it seems like she got co opted by the State Department bureaucracy, which is pretty Arabist

I hope McCain nominates Bolton for Sec State and tells him to clean out the state dept. He'll never get confirmed, though. And it would take the same effort as cleaning the Agean stables (which nowadays would get a big fine for pollution)

My head-pounder is "have got". There is never a correct way to use that combination.

I like the AP headline better: "Rockets hit Israel, which says truce broken". Not that rockets violate the truce, just that Israel says so.

“This is a blatant violation of the calm, and we will weigh options,” an aide quoted Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as saying after the rockets struck.

Wow, nothing gets past Ehud Olmert.

re: #213 Joel

“This is a blatant violation of the calm, and we will weigh stock options,” an aide quoted Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as saying after the rockets struck.

What he really meant.

re: #209 WriterMom

There were actually many, many non-Jewish pilots and other military people who helped start the Israeli Air Force. The Czechs did understand being screwed and they also needed the money. Actually IIRC the Czechs were the first to have direct flights to Israel once the Berlin Wall fell.

In 1989, Hungary became the first Warsaw Pact nation to restore relations with Israel. Rumania never broke them in 1967. The Hungarians apologized and said (obviously) that the Soviets had forced them to do so in 1967.

re: #214 Kenneth

If a potted plant fell out of the sky and landed on the head of that vain, incompetent, insolent and cowardly nonentity of a Prime Minister - I would not care.

re: #104 Occasional Reader

The Wehrmacht wasn't particularly ready for war in 1938, either. Pound for pound, one of the best-prepared militaries on the continent at the time was that of... Czechoslovakia. And they were handed over without firing a shot. Chamberlain's was a very, very bad idea.

The Czechs had mountain defenses, the Skoda armaments works, and a 35 division well trained and motivated army.

re: #216 Joel

Ah, but can you prove his head isn't a potted plant?

re: #218 Kenneth

Ah, but can you prove his head isn't a potted plant?

I think he needs to be slapped just for that repugnant comb-over he uses.

Memo to Ehud - you're not fooling anyone.

Re the several comments on Czechoslovakia supplying aircraft to Israel during the War of Independence -- It did indeed. Jan Masaryk arranged it.

Years later, I met a man who flew one of them. He had been in the US Air Force during World War II, was in Israel when the War of Independence started, and volunteered. In essence, he went to the Haganah and asked "Can you use an experienced fighter pilot?" And they said, "We sure can, especially when we get a plane."

He recalled that when the pilots from Israel arrived in Czechoslovakia to pick up the planes, they were warned that everything was ultra-top secret and nobody must know who they were or why they were there.

After which they went into a hotel diningroom in Prague and the band started to play HaTikvah.

He had other tales to tell, but this post is getting too long . . . .

If the fakistinians nuked Tel Aviv during a truce, that too would be called an impediment to the cease fire and they would call for Israel to give more concessions to the fakistinians to prove the good will of the Israelis.

Clio please don't short end your post. It's wonderful read. Please expand, don't be modest.

The truce will be broken when Israel responds. Until then it's open season. Continue to reload Mohammad.

re: #220 Clio

Of course in 1951 Czechoslovakia (under Soviet control and orders) turned virulently anti Israel and anti Semitic and launched the Prague trials of Jews (actually Jewish by birth, Marxist by belief)) which resulted in an anti Zionist/anti Semitic persecution.

re: #199 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Israel's first aircraft were Czech-built versions of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 - the Nazi's best fighter. History has a sense of humor sometimes.

"BD_VM" -

Totally, they were flown against Spitfires and Hurricanes of the surrounding Arab Air Forces. AND for what it is worth the East - Bloc RPG is a better "Panzer-Faust," and so on and so on. The irony of warfare could fill volumes.

-S-

re: #222 eaglewingz08

Clio please don't short end your post. It's wonderful read. Please expand, don't be modest.

Okay, since you ask.
But I am not being modest -- I had nothing to do with any of this, I am just recalling things from primary sources.

The same pilot also had this story to tell: On the first day of Independence, Egypt bombed Tel-Aviv. The Israelis figured that the only way to stop Egyptian air-raids was by showing they did not come free -- meaning bombing Cairo.

But Israel did not have a bomber, or any bombs.

So this pilot flew a Piper Cub -- the small light plane used for crop-dusting -- over Cairo, and the "bombardier" threw garbage cans loaded with some kind of explosive out of the window.

There was panic in the streets of Cairo. As far as I know, Tel Aviv was not bombed again -- but not sure about that.

re: #224 Joel

Of course in 1951 Czechoslovakia (under Soviet control and orders) turned virulently anti Israel and anti Semitic and launched the Prague trials of Jews (actually Jewish by birth, Marxist by belief)) which resulted in an anti Zionist/anti Semitic persecution.

After they murdered Jan Masaryk.

re: #64 boatguyjim

Same Sh*t different day with those MObots. I'm thinking of taking my next vacation in Israel as a sign of solidarity with the JOOOOS. Maybe stop by and see JC's old stomping ground. The only thing I'm worried about is some MObot attempting to nab 72 virgins near my family while on vacation. What to do?

Shalom, and Israel is safer than a lot of places. Trust.

re: #229 zulubaby

Shalom, and Israel is safer than a lot of places. Trust.

We were there last summer and the only issue for me was the heat(and the amount of food at every meal-hotel buffets- that is what is dangerous!)

re: #216 Joel

If a potted plant fell out of the sky and landed on the head of that vain, incompetent, insolent and cowardly nonentity of a Prime Minister - I would not care.

Could this plant be large enough to wipe out the leaders of Shas too?

Olmert, Livni, Barak, most of Kadima and all of Labor, can plead insanity.

But insanity can not be pleaded by Shas. They know better. Which makes them the worst of all. Whores without a conscience.

If you fund 1 terrorist hoping to make it stronger than the other terrorist, you are still a terrorist, Republican or Democrat.

re: #231 madisonsfriend

We were there last summer and the only issue for me was the heat(and the amount of food at every meal-hotel buffets- that is what is dangerous!)

Do not talk to me about the heat! It's only June and I want to cry. I have to get out of here for the summer, it's just too hot. And yes, the food is endless. A country full of Jewish mothers -- what do you expect?!

re: #18 Yashmak

Charles, I thought that initially you gave them 6 hours until they broke the ceasefire. At the time, I thought that a far more likely number. Five days does seem amazing.

Who won the pool?

re: #157 Ben Hur

FEAR ISRAELI MEN.

Yes! Bloody horny bastards.

re: #232 Opinionated

Israel has got to be the most corrupt democratic nation on Earth.

re: #227 Clio

After they murdered Jan Masaryk.

Yes the Communist coup of 1948. Tomas Masaryk the Foreign Minister was thrown out a window (they claimed suicide). yeah right.

re: #239 ploome hineni

Ok the second most corrupt.

re: #237 Joel

Israel has got to be the most corrupt democratic nation on Earth.

Wouldn't that be Zimbabwe?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

This is getting tiresome. We give them money, they spend it on weapons used to slaughter Jews. We build them sewage treatment plants, they divert the maintenance budget to buy weapons for slaughtering Jews-- and they drown in sewage. We send them food, they sell it off and buy more weapons for slaughtering Jews, and then complain about starving. We build them greenhouses, they turn brown and get filled with tunnels to store weapons for slaughtering Jews, and then they complain about starving. We send them agricultural supplies, and the fertilizer disappears off to find its way into explosives meant for slaughtering Jews, and then they complain about starving.

When are we going to learn to say STOP!?
Stop supporting this insane self-destructive culture of vengeance, stop giving them stuff for free. They've already shown that they know their way around metalworking and chemistry. They could build a tractor if they cared to do so. They've shown that they know how to dig and blast. They could build highways if they cared to do so. But they're not building anything except instruments of destruction.

SCREW THEM.

re: #238 ploome hineni

at least no one gets left out

bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahaha

LOLOL! I've had enough of them to last me a while.

re: #242 zulubaby

Wouldn't that be Zimbabwe?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I don't think that Zimbabwe is considered to be democratic. Btw any thoughts about why the Brits and others are not boycotting Mugabe's government or do they spend all their time boycotting Israel?

re: #237 Joel

Israel has got to be the most corrupt democratic nation on Earth.

I take a corrupt democracy over any thugocracy any day of the weak.

re: #239 ploome hineni

Mexico?

South Africa?

re: #250 ploome hineni

I heard that he fell off a roof and his gun went off.

re: #247 Joel

I don't think that Zimbabwe is considered to be democratic. Btw any thoughts about why the Brits and others are not boycotting Mugabe's government or do they spend all their time boycotting Israel?

The usual ... Jew hatred. Throw a Jew into the mix and I'm sure they'll be all over Zimbabwe. I was kidding about it being a democracy.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #245 ploome hineni

why would they stop?

what would be their motive to stop?

I'm asking why the USA, France, and the rest of the Western world won't stop.
It's already obvious that the Palestinians won't stop at anything except pain.

re: #253 zulubaby

One in London many years ago (1987) I meant a white couple from Zimbabwe and they told me how good it was. I wonder if they are still there.

re: #251 ploome hineni

any videos?

/:D

I'll upload them onto YouTube. LOL.

re: #257 ploome hineni

was he a border policeman? so I heard?

Yes.

re: #241 Joel

Ranking of 14 most corrupt countries:

Venezuela
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Guinea
Laos
Afghanistan
Chad
Sudan
Tonga
Uzbekistan
Haiti
Iraq
Myanmar
Somalia (wors)

Israel ranks 30th least corrupt

re: #262 Kenneth

I specified democratic countries. Sudan, Myannamar(Burma), and Venezuela do not qualify as democratic countries.

re: #133 jcm

A Berkeley study declared conservatism a mental illness....

Yeah, but when you consider the source... it's obvious who's on the receiving end of mental illness.

JALFW

re: #265 ploome hineni

I would think the British would be at the bottom.

re: #265 ploome hineni

One-third of Israelis unhappy with their sex life

Right, that's it! I'm off to Nigeria ...

re: #265 ploome hineni

One-third of Israelis unhappy with their sex life

So do we move to Nigeria and get happy, or Japan where the partners will be happy with the improvement provided?