You have to go to places like Fark.com and Daily Kos to find people so dumb ...

No thanks.

F**k Fark.

Dumb farks.

Fark=Stupid is as stupid does.

Oh, well.

At least we're back up.

Farkitydodah.

Farklosers!

Why would a campaign that runs their guy as the mossiach, ever use subliminal imagery? I'm sure the fade to white (that harkens to heavenly bodies) is just a coincidence.

OT:

If this weren't so deadly, it would crack me up.

HAMAS: We stand fully committed to the 'truce' but will not be doing anything about those who breach the cease fire from Gaza.

This is the type of logic and commitment that Olmert is negotiating with, and that Obam'uh thinks he can level with. Oy!

Good Morning Lizards! So glad to be here. I've been so frantic over the hamster meltdown I haven't noticed the weather in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Is it too early to OT --I'm hopping, I tell you hopping, mad over the SCOTUS decision.

How are you-all?

Fark rice sakes!

re: #9 ggt

Good Morning Lizards! So glad to be here. I've been so frantic over the hamster meltdown I haven't noticed the weather in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Is it too early to OT --I'm hopping, I tell you hopping, mad over the SCOTUS decision.

How are you-all?

Say something farky before you ot.

I fark in their general direction....

I'd liken them to poo flinging monkeys except that the monkeys are actually funny.

Maybe someone should tell them that LGF isn't a "right-wing blog."

The opposite of Fark and Kos is Stormfront.

Well, not opposite, since they all three have similar beliefs.

Who's ridiculous?
First we get, Winnie the Pooh...now I heard Bob "Yes, We Can" the Builder has a lawsuit pending.

re: #11 debutaunt

something farky

re: #8 WrathofG-d

Why would a campaign that runs their guy as the mossiach, ever use subliminal imagery? I'm sure the fade to white (that harkens to heavenly bodies) is just a coincidence.

OT:

If this weren't so deadly, it would crack me up.

HAMAS: We stand fully committed to the 'truce' but will not be doing anything about those who breach the cease fire from Gaza.

This is the type of logic and commitment that Olmert is negotiating with, and that Obam'uh thinks he can level with. Oy!

Hamas logic also concludes that since Israel closed the Gaza crossing in response to the IJ rocket attacks, Israel is responsible for breaking the truce.

Business as usual in Pali occupied Israel.

I was wondering who tranq'ed the hamsters...

Glad the Lounge is back!

Never underestimate large numbers of stupid people.

re: #13 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'd liken them to poo flinging monkeys except that the monkeys are actually funny.

VERY funny!

re: #13 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Monkey are nasty critters. Still, most are more intelligent than the posters at DKos.

re: #13 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

and a lot smarter too.

Meh. Once the little farkers get bored with this, they'll go back to looking at foobies.

Anyhow, they make a bigger deal over there about their *allegedly* pithy headlines and story tags than they do the stories behind them. I guess it's the average farker's way of sticking its fingers in its ears and chanting nah nah nah nah I can't hear you!

*out*

Of course they’re mocking and hooting

Attacking the messenger. It's the last resort of those whom the facts do not support.

Critical thinking is not their strong suit.

How do they get pictures right in the thread?

re: #24 victor_yugo

Attacking the messenger. It's the last resort of those whom the facts do not support.

Critical thinking is not their strong suit.

better

re: #16 ggt

something farky

Big smooch!

Oh, so that's what was happening.

I'm relieved it wasn't a sign that my clunky old computer was finally too antiquated to run LGF.

re: #17 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

ot cont:

I actually heard this morning on the "israel broke the truce" report on Pacifica that Hamas is commmited to the truce that only pertained to the Gaza strip, since Israel responded to terrorist activity from the West Bank with an incursion in Nablus (West Bank).

So in short: Although the truce only existed in Gaza, Israel broke it by responding to Terrorism coming out of Judea/Samaria (west bank).

tell the hamsters they are not in school anymore- they don't get to take the summer off!

re: #29 WrathofG-d

ot cont:

I actually heard this morning on the "israel broke the truce" report on Pacifica that Hamas is commmited to the truce that only pertained to the Gaza strip, since Israel responded to terrorist activity from the West Bank with an incursion in Nablus (West Bank).

So in short: Although the truce only existed in Gaza, Israel broke it by responding to Terrorism coming out of Judea/Samaria (west bank).

Twist that one around a couple more times.

re: #29 WrathofG-d

ot cont:

I actually heard this morning on the "israel broke the truce" report on Pacifica - Need we say more....

re: #29 WrathofG-d

ot cont:

I actually heard this morning on the "israel broke the truce" report on Pacifica that Hamas is commmited to the truce that only pertained to the Gaza strip, since Israel responded to terrorist activity from the West Bank with an incursion in Nablus (West Bank).

So in short: Although the truce only existed in Gaza, Israel broke it by responding to Terrorism coming out of Judea/Samaria (west bank).

Looking at the fine print, I think Hamas concluded that Israelis breathing was a violation of the truce as far as they were concerned.

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - A federal grand jury indicted 26 suspected members of an international gang accused in a cross-border drug ring, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday.

Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey unsealed a federal indictment that charges people believed to be members of the MS-13 gang with federal racketeering for forming a drug trafficking ring that sold cocaine, marijuana and narcotics, and of committing multiple robberies.

SNIP

The indictment claims gang members hold regular meetings much like a government, discussing gang rules, problems and unity. The cliques met frequently in Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham and Columbia, S.C. and elsewhere, and the meetings often brought in gang guests from other states, according to court documents.

SNIP

re: #34 MandyManners

The cliques met frequently in Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham and Columbia, S.C. and elsewhere, and the meetings often brought in gang guests - WTF?

re: #34 MandyManners

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - A federal grand jury indicted 26 suspected members of an international gang accused in a cross-border drug ring, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday.

Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey unsealed a federal indictment that charges people believed to be members of the MS-13 gang with federal racketeering for forming a drug trafficking ring that sold cocaine, marijuana and narcotics, and of committing multiple robberies.

SNIP

The indictment claims gang members hold regular meetings much like a government, discussing gang rules, problems and unity. The cliques met frequently in Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham and Columbia, S.C. and elsewhere, and the meetings often brought in gang guests from other states, according to court documents.

SNIP

Was P-diddy doggie doo a guest?

re: #32 madisonsfriend

No. Not usually. It was interesting to hear them find a way to report about the re closing of Gaza after the rocket attacks though. I am amused by their ability to spin things around, and throw words into factual sentences to make sure they jibe with their point-of-view.

Frak the fraking farkers.

re: #35 madisonsfriend

The cliques met frequently in Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham and Columbia, S.C. and elsewhere, and the meetings often brought in gang guests - WTF?

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

re: #9 ggt

The Court's decision in Kennedy v. Louisiana does have some troubling aspects to it - re: death penalty in cases not resulting in death. Treason is a capital crime, but Justice Kennedy chose to exclude it from his examination. He also confuses crimes with condition. Gabriel Malor has much more.

re: #38 jcm

Frak the fraking farkers.

Ta dah!

You don't have to even go as far as Kos to find stupid people. P. Diddy qualifies very well.

re: #34 MandyManners

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - A federal grand jury indicted 26 suspected members of an international gang accused in a cross-border drug ring, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday.

Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey unsealed a federal indictment that charges people believed to be members of the MS-13 gang with federal racketeering for forming a drug trafficking ring that sold cocaine, marijuana and narcotics, and of committing multiple robberies.

SNIP

The indictment claims gang members hold regular meetings much like a government, discussing gang rules, problems and unity. The cliques met frequently in Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham and Columbia, S.C. and elsewhere, and the meetings often brought in gang guests from other states, according to court documents.

SNIP

Mandy,Mandy, Mandy....don't you know they're only doing the jobs Americans won't do? How insensitive of you to post this here!

/

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Assuming that Obam'uh really could do everything he promises....how does one work around that type of Terrorist/Arab logic that states "we are fully committed to our agreement, we just aren't going to live up to it."

re: #43 Dahveed

you silly white racist. Wanting a president just because of the color of his skin, is ok if you are Black.

Trapped in the darkness of some horrid parallel universe, they screech, kick and claw their way towards reality, but to no avail.

re: #43 Dahveed

You don't have to even go as far as Kos to find stupid people. P. Diddy qualifies very well.

What is it with obambi and all the fat chicks rooting for him?

fark them.....

re: #44 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Mandy,Mandy, Mandy....don't you know they're only doing the jobs Americans won't do? How insensitive of you to post this here!

/

Fingers crossed that the farkers don't get some wildly erroneous idea about what we promote here.

I once was farked, but then I realized I was wrong.

The more I examine this whole Obama logo dealio, the more it appears to me to be a copy of the Ford/Mercury logo.....

re: #29 WrathofG-d

Unfortunately, I predict that self-defense will be unconstitutional.

. Amid the sneering, the Farkers make grudging, painful admissions:

'I lurked in LGF forums for about a year, I can say with no hesitation that even when they are right (it happens), you cant really agree with them because of the roar of the insanity flowing through that place.'
// orclover

'GAT_00: Yeah, no. I'd like proof that LGF has been right about anything.

If you read the wiki, it appears that they have had a few moments in the sun:

In the United States, LGF is perhaps best known for playing a key role in raising doubts about the authenticity of the Killian documents regarding President George W. Bush[6][7], which preceded the resignation of CBS' Dan Rather. The site won the Washington Post's reader poll for Best International Blog in November 2004[8] and played a large role in bringing attention to altered photographs in the Adnan Hajj photographs controversy.[9]

So they may have been correct about the Killian documents, and were certainly right about the modification of the Hajj photos, although the significance of the latter call is questionable.'

re: #47 Cartman

Trapped in the darkness of some horrid parallel universe, they screech, kick and claw their way towards reality, but to no avail.

You have a stalker-like knowledge of my family.

re: #45 WrathofG-d

Assuming that Obam'uh really could do everything he promises....how does one work around that type of Terrorist/Arab logic that states "we are fully committed to our agreement, we just aren't going to live up to it."

Hire them on as a consultant?

Ya mean to tell me that the losers at Fark can cause LGF to go down?
What?

re: #56 buzzsawmonkey

People who are voting for Obama just because he is black are melaninnies.

Perfect!

At this point, I'm just glad Obama's symbolic new "Turning Away Eagle" isn't clutching a waffle in place of its arrows. Yet.

FARK - Freaks And Rabid Kooks

re: #59 Kragar (proud to be kafir) Nope- put them on his board of advisors!

What gets me is how they're acting as a government within this nation. I get this sick feeling.

re: #8 WrathofG-d

Olmert loves going to those swap meets.

re: #54 taxfreekiller

like this on
[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]

Well, remembering that they were probably drunk when their mugshots were taken:

[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]
[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]
[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]

re: #60 realwest,

Their name is Legion, because there are so many of them :-(

re: #47 Cartman

Trapped in the darkness of some horrid parallel universe, they screech, kick and claw their way towards reality, but to no avail.

Actually, I think they are crawling away from reality.

re: #55 Tumulus11

They're just little jealous pukes.

re: #54 taxfreekiller

some one could pull all the border city mug shot line ups into one
place so the citizens of America could see what is coming up the
freeways to their cities and towns soon.

like this on
[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]

view family violence view DWI view auto theft

Damn Mormons!

re: #41 lawhawk

I read a bit at the Belmont Club (PJ Express).

I fail to understand how the "rape of a child" does not equate to "the taking of a life.' I've felt for a long time that the legal system will not have the tools to adequately cope with child rape until it is elevated to the level of murder.

I keep remembering the phrase "You can only police the people as much as they want to be policed."

re: #41 lawhawk

The Court's decision in Kennedy v. Louisiana does have some troubling aspects to it - re: death penalty in cases not resulting in death. Treason is a capital crime, but Justice Kennedy chose to exclude it from his examination. He also confuses crimes with condition. Gabriel Malor has much more.

We had a SCOWA cases recently where they tossed murder convictions for violent assaults resulting in death, when the intent was not to murder.

Meaning if you beat someone to death with a baseball bat, unless the prosecutor had proof of "intent to case death" no murder charges could be filed.

About 30 convictions got tossed, and most of those were released for time served.

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey
Yup, I reckon - well it's obviously so! Shame too, I thought Charles had put in a server farm or bigger server or something to handle avalanches like that one?

re: #63 Diamond Bullet

At this point, I'm just glad Obama's symbolic new "Turning Away Eagle" isn't clutching a waffle in place of its arrows. Yet.

Are you sure those arrows don't have little suction cups on them?

re: #70 Ford_Prefect

Actually, I think they are crawling away from reality.

That's prolly how I should have worded it.

re: #8 WrathofG-d

Why would a campaign that runs their guy as the mossiach, ever use subliminal imagery? I'm sure the fade to white (that harkens to heavenly bodies) is just a coincidence.

OT:

If this weren't so deadly, it would crack me up.

HAMAS: We stand fully committed to the 'truce' but will not be doing anything about those who breach the cease fire from Gaza.

This is the type of logic and commitment that Olmert is negotiating with, and that Obam'uh thinks he can level with. Oy!

And if the Israelis retaliate against the Islamic Jihad (redundant, I know), Hamas will accuse Israel of breaking the truce. If Israel captures them, I hope they remembered to leave their Hamas ID at home and took their Islamic Jihad one.
Can't tell the terrorists apart without a scorecard.

I fear the master Obamatrons will continue to fling cr@p decoys like The Seal, The Racism Comments, and the Headscarf Controversy (seems to have been started by Muslim activists - maybe buddies of BO strategists) to distract us from discussing the genuine Barack atrocities: his Chicago background and cronies, his far-left ideology, and his utter lack of experience - right up till the election.

They'll keep us busy with chickenfeed issues that won't affect independents at all, to give us less time to reach voters with authentic policy redmeat.

Whoa. Just posted a spinoff on the Afghan government accusing the Pakistani ISI of an assassination plot against Karzai, and it posted with a date of 3 weeks ago.

The Afghanistan government for the first time publicly accused the Pakistani intelligence service on Wednesday of organizing the plot to assassinate President Hamid Karzai at a parade in Kabul in April.

In a news conference in Kabul, Sayeed Ansari, the spokesman for the Afghan intelligence service, said Afghan authorities had evidence of the direct involvement of Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, in the assassination attempt.

He said the evidence was based on documents uncovered during the investigation into the assassination attempt, confessions from 16 suspects detained after the attack, and cellphone contacts. He gave no further details or specific names of officials within the Pakistani agency that may have been involved.

re: #68 victor_yugo

Well, remembering that they were probably drunk when their mugshots were taken:

[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]
[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]
[Link: www.elpasotexas.gov...]

Oh look! Hoosgow honeys!

/iowahawk

re: #53 ggt

It seems that according to everyone these days (including Olmert) the only thing Israel is allowed to do is ethnicly cleanse any post-1967 Israel, and satisfy the needs of the Phakestinians.

Home building is considered worse than Terrorism.
The inconveinence of checkpoints worse the then murder of civilians.
The Israeli response to terrorism, worse then the Terrorist acts that caused it.
Building fences worse than vest-bombings.

These morons are gonna elect someone that's gonna get a lot of us killed. Hopefully they won't be able to get out of Mom's basement.

re: #46 WrathofG-d

You mean, you don't have to have a viable platform or stand for anything? You only have to have the right skin color to become president? Wow, why didn't someone try that before?

Thing about fark is that many of them would, in a sane world, read LGF.

Snarky humor is something common here.

But the SMUG barrier is so f***ing high now that they can't see over it. There is this tightly wound tautology out there that "intelligent people are liberals" and "liberals are therefore intelligent" that doesn't stand up to scrutiny yet is blithely accepted.

And they wonder why the "smug elitist" label is sticking to Obama? Look at his energy policy - it is itself a tautology. "Renewables are better so we better use renewables." I own a 7.5 KW solar field and I KNOW that renewables can't provide a base load for an industrialized society.

Tautologies allow people to ignore the reality staring them in the face. And people who fall for them aren't "intelligent". Educated people who fall for them need to go to their Alma Maters and ask for refunds.

/Rant off.

Well it's been grand - sorta - as usual y'all but now, just as LGF is back up and running fine, I gotta go and eat lunch and do some chores!
Hope I get the chance to see all y'all down the road!

re: #52 neverquit

The more I examine this whole Obama logo dealio, the more it appears to me to be a copy of the Ford/Mercury logo.....

Didn't know that Ford/Mercury made a bus. Makes sense.
/

re: #59 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I have always been told by relatives, and friends that live in the middle east that to an Arab; the agreement is only the beginning of the negotiations.

re: #85 kansas

These morons are gonna elect someone that's gonna get a lot of us killed. Hopefully they won't be able to get out of Mom's basement.

That's become incidental. Barack means well and that is the most important thing.

Farkin' iceholes.

re: #54 taxfreekiller

tax, you mention family violence...i have noticed a disproportionate amount of this among south of the border people ...is this my imagination or are there statistics on this somewhere?

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Levees fail. Wildfires jump firebreaks. And overloads...well, you get the idea.

"Overlords happen."

re: #81 lawhawk

Not to worry - BO plans to lay waste to Pakistan once in office, right?

/

As much and I enjoyed the seal being clubbed by Obama, after looking at the FARK page I see the first poster provides three examples where a Republican organization (the National Republican Senatorial Committee) has used similar iconography.

Here is a link to the images if you choose to not visit FARK.

I'm only posting this in search for answers and I trust the lizards to give me the reason why there is a difference. Like Dennis Prager is prone to say, I prefer clarity to agreement. And I don't want to be a hypocrite.

Thanks.

re: #79 Kosh's Shadow

And if the Israelis retaliate against the Islamic Jihad (redundant, I know), Hamas will accuse Israel of breaking the truce. If Israel captures them, I hope they remembered to leave their Hamas ID at home and took their Islamic Jihad one.
Can't tell the terrorists apart without a scorecard.

That's because truce means Israel does not respond to attacks. How many times do I have to tell you that?

Supreme Court morons: Constitutional rights for terrorists and now, no death penalty for child rapists...

Does the world seem just a bit out of whack today?

If only the "undecideds" could see the contrast in logic between the liberals (and their ideas and arguments), and the "conservatives".

re: #90 WrathofG-d

I have always been told by relatives, and friends that live in the middle east that to an Arab; the agreement is only the beginning of the negotiations.

I'm a firm believer that military negotiations should only be agreed to once the fact that I will exterminate you utterly if they fail has been established.

re: #99 jill e

yeah, I'm not feeling good about our country right now.

re: #94 victor_yugo

"Overlords happen."

Tyrannicide Happens.

re: #86 Dahveed

I think that was sarcasm, but no that isn't what I am saying. I do believe that these morons have bought into the "I will walk on water", and "Orwellian like promises of Obama (We are the Change), but the fact that he is Black is surely helping this.

It just upsets me that an African-American (or leftist) can openly state that they are going to vote for Obam'uh just so that they can have a Black president, and be considered neutral, but if that same person said they would never vote for Obam'uh to ensure there is no Black president, they would be considered Racist.

re: #99 jill e

Supreme Court morons: Constitutional rights for terrorists and now, no death penalty for child rapists...

Does the world seem just a bit out of whack today?

Yes.

re: #74 ggt

I read a bit at the Belmont Club (PJ Express).

I fail to understand how the "rape of a child" does not equate to "the taking of a life.' I've felt for a long time that the legal system will not have the tools to adequately cope with child rape until it is elevated to the level of murder.

I keep remembering the phrase "You can only police the people as much as they want to be policed."

I still think life in prison as the sex toy of the other inmates is a suitable punishment. Kill him and the punishment ends sooner.

re: #99 jill e

Supreme Court morons: Constitutional rights for terrorists and now, no death penalty for child rapists...

...and the leftists are just warming up in the bullpen.

I get sick imagining their plans for the main events.....

Fortunately or unfortunately, all these moonbats have is the ability to mock and slander those who don't think lock and step with them. Over a discussion on Obama's tax policy, this one moonbat who shifted the discussion to the war, offered absolutely zero solutions as to bringing about a victory for our troops, but they had endless McCain slurs, falsehoods and distortions. While the technique works very well amongst 11th and 12th graders, in the real world, there aren't many people who respond well to something like "Obama's YES WE CAN is way better than wondering if John McCain will live long enough to finish one term". Does that even make any sense? No. But is sense something that these people have lots of? Nope.

re: #99 jill e

The pollsters love to talk about how people say the country is on the wrong track. And, of course, Bush is blamed. I think the country is on the wrong track because the liberals have taken over the culture.

re: #99 jill e

Supreme Court morons: Constitutional rights for terrorists and now, no death penalty for child rapists...

Does the world seem just a bit out of whack today?

This SCOTUS is out of control, senile. Expect nonsense from them on a continuing basis. Letter to WSJ the other day pointed out they are "deciding" issues much broader than are actually brought up in the cases. The proper response is to treat them as if they had opined on the weather, the issues in the ruling were never argued or briefed.

re: #99 jill e

Does the world seem just a bit out of whack today?

Yep. And lefty likes it that way, just fine.

Just got offered another temp job.

Must go do some paperwork.

Bye.

re: #97 uncleFuzzy

As much and I enjoyed the seal being clubbed by Obama, after looking at the FARK page I see the first poster provides three examples where a Republican organization (the National Republican Senatorial Committee) has used similar iconography.

Here is a link to the images if you choose to not visit FARK.

I'm only posting this in search for answers and I trust the lizards to give me the reason why there is a difference. Like Dennis Prager is prone to say, I prefer clarity to agreement. And I don't want to be a hypocrite.

Thanks.

I have to agree with you. For example, I found it quite interesting to hear conservatives criticizing BO for stumbling over his own tongue when he goes off script. Seems we have been defending GW from those same attacks for quite a while.

Massachusetts has a habit of electing dirt bags to public office.

Charles, how come no thread on the SCOTUS decision that the death penalty for sex offenders was considered to be "cruel and unusual" in a 5-4 decision, with who else but Kennedy being the swing vote. What I don't get about this decision is that to me, raping a child is cruel and unusual. The worst punishment should be on the table for those who commit some of the most heinous crimes.

re: #108 runrabbitrun

...and the leftists are just warming up in the bullpen.

I get sick imagining their plans for the main events.....

Best reason to vote for McCain come fall.
Otherwise, a few Obama justices later, and anything the UN passes supercedes the constitution.

The ACORN Obama Knows

re: #117 maddogg

Massachusetts has a habit of electing dirt bags to public office.

You really should mot insult dirt bags. That POS is worse.

re: #105 WrathofG-d

It was sarcasm. Sorry for not stating that.

re: #107 Kosh's Shadow,

To a large degree, that depends on how you kill them. Impalement seems a just punishment for child rape, doesn't it? It'll end, but it will seem like forever to the impaled.

Hamas Demands control and Taxes from Egyptian Border Crossing.
~some insight into what is really going on here.
or
~Just another reason why Israel shouldn't be negotiating and pussy-footing around with Hamas, and should just destroy them already.

re: #117 maddogg

Please correct that. According to The Obamassiah, it's "Massatoosetts".

"Mocking, mocking, all the time, mocking!"

ot:

Pretty Pictures From Israel.
(so much bad news I've been giving, I thought I would add something positive and beautiful)

re: #117 maddogg

Massachusetts has a habit of electing dirt bags to public office.

The guy's name is Fagan. Slightly different spelling and he'd be running a child pickpocket ring and [deleted] with the kids the rest of the time.

He'll be out of office soon.

re: #118 Sizzlack

Charles, how come no thread on the SCOTUS decision that the death penalty for sex offenders was considered to be "cruel and unusual" in a 5-4 decision, with who else but Kennedy being the swing vote. What I don't get about this decision is that to me, raping a child is cruel and unusual. The worst punishment should be on the table for those who commit some of the most heinous crimes.

The punishment is what the court tries to discern based on the language of the 4th Amendment, not the crime committed.

Apparently, the majority in the decision found that the rape of a child, which doesn't result in that child's death, is not a crime suitable for the death penalty.

re: #126 Cartman

Please correct that. According to The Obamassiah, it's "Massatoosetts".

Are you sure that wasn't Elmer Fudd?

U.S. high court already had made clear that capital punishment could not be imposed without the death of the victim, except possibly for espionage or treason.

I'm inclined to follow the logic of the court..( yea..it happens every couple of years )
Without death to the victim as horrible as the crime is, I can't see an state execution.. But i do believe that the punishment should be for life.. They are getting 20 years for the crime..never ever ever should they be freed for such a horrible crime.

re: #131 Ford_Prefect

Are you sure that wasn't Elmer Fudd?

Same difference?

re: #125 WrathofG-d

Hamas Demands control and Taxes from Egyptian Border Crossing.
~some insight into what is really going on here.
or
~Just another reason why Israel shouldn't be negotiating and pussy-footing around with Hamas, and should just destroy them already.

The city has been a prime conduit for smuggling drugs, weapons and terrorists, which Israel has demanded that Hamas halt as part of the ceasefire agreement. However, the pact with Hamas provides no system for monitoring the border, and Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh declared earlier this week that there is no way to stop the flow.

OT, but...

Since you probably haven’t heard about it from any media outlet other than the eee-vil Fox News, Obama’s first general election ad (gasp) has yet another shameless lie to add to his ever-growing list.

Apparently, the Grand-Bringer-Of-Change takes credit (seemingly in total) for passing a law that extends health benefits for troops. Too bad the law he cites is one he didn’t vote on.

The reaction from the likes of abcBS, nbcBS, cBS? (cricket, cricket)

re: #129 Kosh's Shadow,

He's also a Democrat, but I'm sure that comes as no surprise. Class A scum, but then, what do you expect?

re: #124 Iron Fist

,

To a large degree, that depends on how you kill them. Impalement seems a just punishment for child rape, doesn't it? It'll end, but it will seem like forever to the impaled.

After they've had a few years as the prison bung boy, maybe.
But remember, killing them can't hurt. No, can't let the criminals suffer, no matter what they put their victims through.

Well, my allotted time is up.

Have a great day all!

We used to hang horse thieves and rustlers, now we can't execute a filthy serial child rapist. Now, thats progress.

/s

re: #107 Kosh's Shadow

As long as he/she stays in prison.

re: #136 buzzsawmonkey

You said "Massa" in the same sentence as "Obama." Racist!

Sadly, in some circles that just might be deduced. Oh, the insanity. Sigh.

re: #137 Iron Fist

,

He's also a Democrat, but I'm sure that comes as no surprise. Class A scum, but then, what do you expect?

He probably belongs to the ACLU and NAMBLA, too.

The Debate McCain Must Force

re: #115 Ford_Prefect

Thanks. Let me offer you this for consideration regarding the two and their ability to speak. It is a difference I consider important.

Obama is know for his great oratory. The guy can give a speech and many will consider it music to the masses. But when the teleprompter is taken away he reverts back to mere human capabilities. (Pardon the sarcasm.)

Bush, on the other hand, mangles speech at every opportunity. He's done well with State of the Union addresses and on other occasions as well, but he is known to flub under both circumstances.

re: #130 lawhawk

That seems to be a great distance from justice.

re: #141 ggt

As long as he/she stays in prison.

Yes, it should be life, while the guards look the other way as the molesters get gang raped by the other inmates. OK, the guards can watch if they must.

re: #110 Dahveed

The pollsters love to talk about how people say the country is on the wrong track. And, of course, Bush is blamed. I think the country is on the wrong track because the liberals have taken over the culture.

The pollsters ask leading questions, then draw the wrong conclusions.

Take a question like, Do you approve of the way George Bush has handled his Presidency, yes or no?

A conservative would say no due to his rampant spending, failure to secure the border, forcing Israel to negotiate with Hamas, and things like that. A liberal will start whining about "Bush lied", the Iraq war, and Katrina. The pollsters will take all the no votes and use them to support their talking points, which given the MSM, will be the liberal side.

re: #130 lawhawk

The punishment is what the court tries to discern based on the language of the 4th Amendment, not the crime committed.

Apparently, the majority in the decision found that the rape of a child, which doesn't result in that child's death, is not a crime suitable for the death penalty.

I get that, I'm just amazed that in the span of three weeks, the court has come out in favor of terrorist rights and child rapist rights. WTF?

re: #132 HoosierHoops

U.S. high court already had made clear that capital punishment could not be imposed without the death of the victim, except possibly for espionage or treason.

I'm inclined to follow the logic of the court..( yea..it happens every couple of years )
Without death to the victim as horrible as the crime is, I can't see an state execution.. But i do believe that the punishment should be for life.. They are getting 20 years for the crime..never ever ever should they be freed for such a horrible crime.

Life in prison used to actually mean life in prison.

re: #134 MandyManners

HUDNA!

Once again, Israel has been duped by her own pie-in-the-sky dreams of peace with the scorpion.

re: #120 Typicalwhitey

From your link:

As the Consumer Rights League points out in its new expose, the ACORN Housing Corporation has worked to obtain mortgages for illegal aliens in partnership with Citibank. It relies on undocumented income, "under the table" money, which may not be reported to the Internal Revenue Service. Moreover, the group's "financial justice" operations attack lenders for "exotic" loans, while recommending 10-year interest-only loans (which deny equity to the buyer) and risky reverse mortgages. Whistleblower documents reveal internal discussions among the group that blur the lines between its tax-exempt housing work and its aggressive electioneering activities. The group appears to shake down corporate interests with relentless PR attacks, and then enters "no lobby" agreements with targeted corporations after receiving payment.

That's criminal. I'd dearly love to see a lot of ACORN executives heading for jail.

Years of university and media brainwashing have convinced many Americans that Conservatives are evil and wrong by default, and conservative ideas should be simply dismissed without consideration.

re: #87 karmic_inquisitor

re: #97 uncleFuzzy

As much and I enjoyed the seal being clubbed by Obama, after looking at the FARK page I see the first poster provides three examples where a Republican organization (the National Republican Senatorial Committee) has used similar iconography.

Here is a link to the images if you choose to not visit FARK.

I'm only posting this in search for answers and I trust the lizards to give me the reason why there is a difference. Like Dennis Prager is prone to say, I prefer clarity to agreement. And I don't want to be a hypocrite.

Thanks.

Simple moonbat trick. Try to make apples and oranges look like apples.

Did the poster show us another example of a candidate for president using presidential seal imagery?
No

They tried to deflect the kaffiyeh issue too by saying that the military used them.

re: #130 lawhawk
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Apparently, the majority in the decision found that the rape of a child, which doesn't result in that child death , is not a crime suitable for the death penalty.

I always said that if someone harmed my kids, there would never be a trial because I would make sure the death penalty happened. Then because of my sterling reputation- I would claim insanity.

re: #150 debutaunt

Life in prison used to actually mean life in prison.

With the "sexually dangerous person" laws now, even 20 years can mean life in prison. They get a "dangerousness" hearing before they're either let out, or thrown back. In Mass, they stay at the "Massachusetts Treatment Center" where they get therapy, etc. and a hearing again a few years later.
They very rarely get let out. My wife actually is a defense lawyer on those cases, but she doesn't feel too bad when they stay locked up.

re: #141 ggt

As long as he/she stays in prison.

I have been watchin for this decision. It's no secret that I am one of the few conservatives apposed to the death penalty, and this supports my argument. But not for the obvious reasons. The reason I am against capital punishment, as a DS vet and a 7 year veteran of ICU nursing, is quite simple;
IT'S A WASTE OF PERFECTLY GOOD ORGANS!
If we wanna make a perv pay his debt to society, then the best way is to have him stripped of his rights to his self-determination, set a date and have him "distributed" to hosts that need the organs. That way the perp/perv can FINALLY be useful to the society he is indebted to; and as a sidebar if someone is "distributed" in error then the loss of his consciousness was not a total waste and travesty.

Yes, the Fark kids are pointing and laughing again, and the surge of traffic caused our server to hiccup.

Apparently simple minds are easily amused.

}:)     [Fark them ... ]

re: #149 Sizzlack,

L³iberals on the Court. We hear a lot of drivel in the MSM about the "Roberts'" wing of the SC, but little complaint about the Ginsburg wing of the Court. Part of that is, I guess, he is Chief Justice, but it seems to me that the Ginsburg court is writing all the 5-4 decisions lately.

I am worried about the Heller decision. I guess we'll know about it tomorrow.

As much as I love fark.com I stay far away from political threads - they are overflowing with moonbat idiots that cannot grasp a fact or opposing viewpoint. The groupthink is amazing and breathtaking.

re: #133 Cartman

Same difference?

I guess McCain does sort of look like Bugs Bunny.

re: #144 Typicalwhitey

The Debate McCain Must Force

Get going, Mac! I hope that McCain changes the national debate about the Obamessiah from seals & headscarves to taxes, SCotUS decisions, and terrorist policy.

Mac might not get serious till the fall, of course. But as I said earlier, the 'false issues' strategy will be a primary campaign tactic for Barack.

re: #133 Cartman

Same difference?

(Elmer Fudd and Obama - the same?)
Obviously not. Fudd is a hunter and would be against gun control. (Although he doesn't seem to have very good gun control.)

Congress approves $300 billion aid package for liars, shysters and morons.

The mortgage aid plan would let the Federal Housing Administration back $300 billion in new, cheaper home loans for an estimated 400,000 distressed borrowers who otherwise would be considered too financially risky to qualify for government-insured, fixed-rate loans.

So because the borrowers were unreliable and 9 times out of 10 should not have been given a loan in the first place, the US government is taking the money from taxpayers who have played by the rules and giving it to help out the morons because they are still unreliable and at risk financially.

Next time you see a family living in a house you know they can't really afford, just remember, you helped pay for it.

Yep. Many of the tactics used by the Conquistadors come right out of the Hadiths. I think the Spanish picked up some technique from their old masters.

re: #113 taxfreekiller

#93

Spain, ruled by islamics for a long long time, the treatment of women,
connections are deep and real
The Chuch of Spain when it came to the Apache world they did not know about used the methods the islamics had taught to deal with
the Apache and other tribes, (kill the whole village, wipe out the culture complete) off with their heads

see book

"When the Corm Mother Died"

re: #163 Kosh's Shadow

(Elmer Fudd and Obama - the same?)
Obviously not. Fudd is a hunter and would be against gun control. (Although he doesn't seem to have very good gun control.)

Its all the fault of that pesky wabbit....

re: #166 maddogg

Its all the fault of that pesky wabbit....

the one that attacked Carter?

re: #151 WrathofG-d

HUDNA!

Once again, Israel has been duped by her own pie-in-the-sky dreams of peace with the scorpion.

So, what are they to do?

re: #164 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I just want to publicly state that I agree 100% with you on this. It upsets me beyond no other that I have to live below (or within) my means to pay for those that wish to live beyond theirs. I live below/within my means so I can actually afford on my own the things I do but the Government, a Republican Government none-the-less, is giving away money that should be used for other things to pay for the fiscally moronic.

Tax is for Governmental sustainance, not emotional bandaids. To make it all worse, we will probably get stuck with Obam'uh who is going to do more of this, and raise taxes further.....

(got to convince the sig-nif other to move)

We're still having some server issues here...

Working on it...

re: #164 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

[Sigh]

It doesn't help that most of those hoouses are bigger and nicer (or at least more expensive) than the house I can afford. They take money from me to pay the other guys Mortgage, then tell me that I don't pay my fair share.

This is your brain on Democrats.

[Sigh]

re: #38 jcm

Frak the fraking farkers.

Or:
Frak off, you frakking farks.

Lol. Fark is scatalogical and lowbrow, but this did make me chuckle.

re: #169 WrathofG-d
ya gotta love those election year giveaways....

/

re: #97 uncleFuzzy

As much and I enjoyed the seal being clubbed by Obama, after looking at the FARK page I see the first poster provides three examples where a Republican organization (the National Republican Senatorial Committee) has used similar iconography.

Here is a link to the images if you choose to not visit FARK.

I'm only posting this in search for answers and I trust the lizards to give me the reason why there is a difference. Like Dennis Prager is prone to say, I prefer clarity to agreement. And I don't want to be a hypocrite.

Thanks.

Here are a few differences.

1) The Republican seals are for an organization created by President Reagan when he already was, um, President.

2) The Republican seals are pared down versions that invoke the iconography of the Presidential Seal without doing any violence to it. By contrast, Obama's version(s) bastardizes the seal by, among other offences, converting his inane "Si, Se Puede" theology into crude Latin in an effort to make it weighty. In this manner, it inadvertently reflects his overarching message that America really isn't anything special until he gets his hand on it and "improves" it to the point his wife will finally be proud of it.

3) There is a sometimes subtle but nonetheless important line between using imagery respectfully, and cheapening it through crude symbolism. See, e.g., Time Magazine's "Iwo Jima Tree Raising" cover. Obama's co-opting of the Presidential seal lacks any substantive basis since he, you know, hasn't actually won, and smacks of hubris in the same fashion of professional athlete stupidly kissing the championship trophy before actually winning it. Thankfully, the universe typically rewards such stupidity with monstrous, soul-crushing jinxes of the type undoubtedly barrelling down the rails at Comrade Obama even as we speak.

re: #156 Kosh's Shadow

With the "sexually dangerous person" laws now, even 20 years can mean life in prison. They get a "dangerousness" hearing before they're either let out, or thrown back. In Mass, they stay at the "Massachusetts Treatment Center" where they get therapy, etc. and a hearing again a few years later.
They very rarely get let out. My wife actually is a defense lawyer on those cases, but she doesn't feel too bad when they stay locked up.

I'd be very happy if that happened throughout this country.

A married couple in their early 60s was celebrating their
40th wedding anniversary in a quiet, romantic little restaurant.
Suddenly, a tiny yet beautiful fairy appeared on their table. She
said,'For being such an exemplary married couple and for being loving
to each other for all this time, I will grant you each a wish.' The
wife answered, 'Oh, I want to travel around the world with my darling
husband.' The fairy waved her magic wand and - poof! - two tickets
for the Queen Mary II appeared in her hands. The husband thought for a
moment: 'Well, this is all very romantic, but an opportunity like this
will never come again. I'm sorry my love, but my wish is to have a wife
30 years younger than me.' The wife, and the fairy, were deeply
disappointed, but a wish is a wish. So the f! airy wav ed her magic
wand and poof!...the husband became 92 years old. The moral this
story: Men who are ungrateful bastards should remember fairies are female.....

re: #168 MandyManners

If that is an honest question, they have two options.

(1) All out war against Hamas. You declare Hamas illegal, as with any support for Hamas. Then you act accordingly, ingorning all those who are lined up to destroy Israel with either action or subterfuge (resolutions, etc.)

(2) In addition I would re settle Gaza with Jews.

re: #145 uncleFuzzy

Thanks. Let me offer you this for consideration regarding the two and their ability to speak. It is a difference I consider important.

Obama is know for his great oratory. The guy can give a speech and many will consider it music to the masses. But when the teleprompter is taken away he reverts back to mere human capabilities. (Pardon the sarcasm.)

Bush, on the other hand, mangles speech at every opportunity. He's done well with State of the Union addresses and on other occasions as well, but he is known to flub under both circumstances.

So you are saying that the only difference between the two in terms of oratory is that Bush always screws up and Obama only does it occasionally. I think that just bolsters my point.

re: #144 Typicalwhitey

The Debate McCain Must Force

Excellent piece. I agree a hundred percent with what Dick Morris is saying in this piece.

re: #169 WrathofG-d,

Um, dude, it's not been a Republican government since at least 2006. Some would argue that it wasn't really a Republican government before that.

re: #159 Iron Fist

I never really understood the hate towards Roberts either. I sat in on a hearing when he was on the DC Court of Appeals in 2003 (when I had no idea who he was) and he was by far the most inquisitive and questioning of the three judges. It left an impression on me that he was no joke, and when he was nominated I was happy because he seems like about as stand up of a guy as you could ask for. But I guess because he was nominated by Bush, to the MSM he is inherently evil.

re: #171 Iron Fist

[Sigh]

It doesn't help that most of those hoouses are bigger and nicer (or at least more expensive) than the house I can afford. They take money from me to pay the other guys Mortgage, then tell me that I don't pay my fair share.

This is your brain on Democrats.

[Sigh]

That bring back memories. When I was in college, my wife would go to the store to buy the small and inexpensive amount of food we just got by on, and standing in line in front of her, would be a welfare recipient, buying steak and lobster with her food stamps, and her cigarettes with cash. My tax dollars at work.

re: #181 Iron Fist

I guess I should reserve Judgement to see if it passeses the senate, then what GWB does about it.

re: #169 WrathofG-d

I had the option to buy a few places in the last couple years. I didn't because I looked over the contracts and realized when the rates adjusted, it would be too risky. I've stayed in rentals and taken care of my family in the meantime. Seeing the government piss away tax dollars on people who were too stupid to realize what they were signing meant to them pisses me off to no end.

re: #63 Diamond Bullet

At this point, I'm just glad Obama's symbolic new "Turning Away Eagle" isn't clutching a waffle in place of its arrows. Yet.

Isn't 'Turning Away Eagle' Obama's new Native American name? If not, it should be.

re: #178 WrathofG-d

If that is an honest question, they have two options.

(1) All out war against Hamas. You declare Hamas illegal, as with any support for Hamas. Then you act accordingly, ingorning all those who are lined up to destroy Israel with either action or subterfuge (resolutions, etc.)

(2) In addition I would re settle Gaza with Jews.

Good start.

re: #169 WrathofG-d

Did you see Luskin's op-ed in the WSJ this morning? He mentions that he's spoken to one of Obama's top economic advisors, and they haven't run any models for Obama's ridiculous social security proposals.

Not a spread sheet in sight! Truly moronic.

re: #177 Peacekeeper

Men who are ungrateful bastards should remember fairies are female.....

Been to Frisco lately?

re: #171 Iron Fist

I feel the same way. I detest the bail-out.

re: #190 maddogg

I'm a traditionalist.

re: #177 Peacekeeper

Men who are ungrateful bastards should remember fairies are female.....

I thought fairies were gay men.

re: #178 WrathofG-d

(2) In addition I would re settle Gaza with Jews.

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy! The Jordanian Gypsies have turned that into a sho-nuf shithole, probably never to recover.

re: #99 jill e

Supreme Court morons: Constitutional rights for terrorists and now, no death penalty for child rapists...

Does the world seem just a bit out of whack today?

Let the relatives of the victims take care of the child rapists. Grrrrrr!

re: #187 Cygnus

Isn't 'Turning Away Eagle' Obama's new Native American name? If not, it should be.

Or "Running Away Chicken".

re: #177 Peacekeeper

re: #190 maddogg

Been to Frisco lately?

Or ProvinceTown on Cape Cod !?!?

re: #171 Iron Fist

[Sigh]

It doesn't help that most of those hoouses are bigger and nicer (or at least more expensive) than the house I can afford. They take money from me to pay the other guys Mortgage, then tell me that I don't pay my fair share.

This is your brain on Democrats.

[Sigh]

Reminds me of an image I've had.
Picture of fairly normal people holding political signs.
"This is your electorate"
Picture out of zombietime with the bizarre protesters:
"This is your electorate on drugs"

re: #193 Alouette

I thought fairies were gay men.

nope. those are rump rangers.

re: #189 Dianna

This guy can turn water into wine....what does he need spreadsheets for?

I'm surprised they dont' have the "angels singing" sound on his website with the fade to white.

re: #186 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Same here. I could have taken the lower variable rate on my mortgage, but I decided to go with the higher fixed rate.

I asked my wife last night, when I heard about the nows on TV: "What's in it for us."

re: #195 paxnhymn

It was that way when the most recent influx of Jews entered Egypt/Gaza too, but with our know-how and the blessing of H'S, we made it bloom. We would/could do it again!

re: #193 Alouette

I thought fairies were gay men.

Don't fark with the punchline.

re: #182 buzzsawmonkey

We need a national dialogue which will laugh the race hustlers off the perches they have occupied for too long

Yes, that is needed. And it's long overdue. But I'd guess probably several more years away. Maybe our kids will finally be able to discuss race in a practical manner (i.e. without fear of being labeled a "racist").

re: #164 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I live in a small apartment and have no debt. I have no credit cards. I pay for everything up front. I even own my truck outright (it's 10 years old).

I realize that the honchos gave way too many loans to iffy customers, and the lenders are now in deep doo doo, but what I want to know is why punish me? Nanny state nonsense.

People really need to learn fiscal responsibility, but they won't do it if they get coddled. IMHO.

re: #117 maddogg

Massachusetts has a habit of electing dirt bags to public office.

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re: #178 WrathofG-d

If that is an honest question, they have two options.

(1) All out war against Hamas. You declare Hamas illegal, as with any support for Hamas. Then you act accordingly, ingorning all those who are lined up to destroy Israel with either action or subterfuge (resolutions, etc.)

(2) In addition I would re settle Gaza with Jews.

Does Olmert have the guts?

re: #186 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You're not alone.

It's absolutely wrong to bail out greedy, foolish people with responsible people's money.

re: #154 gman

I'm sorry but that doesn't work for me.

The initial outrage was that the seal was (very) similar to the Presidential Seal and therefore might even be illegal.

I am not certain but I believe there is no distinction in the law with regards to the purpose of the seal being used. From dog catcher to president, it makes no difference.

Thanks for the response, though.

re: #211 Dianna

You're not alone.

It's absolutely wrong to bail out greedy, foolish people with responsible people's money.

Amen.

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

Grrrr.

I am so sick of this swooning over hopey-changiness.

re: #207 Catttt

I live in a small apartment and have no debt. I have no credit cards. I pay for everything up front. I even own my truck outright (it's 10 years old).

I realize that the honchos gave way too many loans to iffy customers, and the lenders are now in deep doo doo, but what I want to know is why punish me? Nanny state nonsense.

People really need to learn fiscal responsibility, but they won't do it if they get coddled. IMHO.

Agreed. I say suck it up!

I, OTOH, am waiting for the market to hit botton, then; capitolist pig leaching off of other's misery person that I am, will buy my first home in a buyers market and for the lowest price possible within my means. With 20% down and a fixed rate 15 year mortgage.

re: #207 Catttt

I live in a small apartment and have no debt. I have no credit cards. I pay for everything up front. I even own my truck outright (it's 10 years old).

I realize that the honchos gave way too many loans to iffy customers, and the lenders are now in deep doo doo, but what I want to know is why punish me? Nanny state nonsense.

People really need to learn fiscal responsibility, but they won't do it if they get coddled. IMHO.

Why should individuals do what the government refuses to do itself - show fiscal responsibility? Someone will always bail them out. In the government's case, it means hitting up taxpayers even more.

In individuals' case, it's a bailout like the mortgage nonsense.

re: #211 Dianna

You're not alone.

It's absolutely wrong to bail out greedy, foolish people with responsible people's money.

In other words: Not on our dime!

re: #178 WrathofG-d

If that is an honest question, they have two options.

(1) All out war against Hamas. You declare Hamas illegal, as with any support for Hamas. Then you act accordingly, ingorning all those who are lined up to destroy Israel with either action or subterfuge (resolutions, etc.)

(2) In addition I would re settle Gaza with Jews.

Kragar doctrine;

Stage 1) announce you will sweep an area at a given time. All civilians will be cleared thru set check points and housed in a confined area till a certain point. Any attacks prior to the given time means an immeadiate move to stage 2.

Stage 2) Begin a house to house search of the area using infantry with armored support. Any engagement by hostile forces will have the infantry secure the surrounding area while artillery and close air support reduce the engagement area to a fine powder.

Stage 3) secure the area to use as a civilian holding area for the next sector to be cleared.

There are a variety of mini moonbat centrals you can choose from. Most of your popular rock and roll bands have political forums on their post boards.

I can not even bother to lurk anymore because of the extensive moonbat dementia but if you want to see the kiddies in action all you have to do is read [Link: www.foofighters.com...] board...

I bet they are still taking their dose of crazy every day and it is somewhere left of Abbey Hoffman!

re: #203 Beobachter

Same here. I could have taken the lower variable rate on my mortgage, but I decided to go with the higher fixed rate.

I asked my wife last night, when I heard about the nows on TV: "What's in it for us."

Higher property taxes.

re: #216 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That's certainly the way to go... and if you go into some markets, you could clean up nicely (Vegas, Florida, AZ, much of CA), though there's still serious downside potential in those same areas. Not a good idea to predict the bottom, but if you're buying within your means now, you should do okay.

re: #145 uncleFuzzy

That and "Charisma" is Obama's one and only qualification. So it is fair to point out when it is lacking, even if defending Bush's intelligence even in light of some poor speaking.

re: #202 buzzsawmonkey

and 204WoG

Yeah, but wouldn't you feel really bad for that first influx of Gaza settlers?...

ugggh.

re: #203 Beobachter

Nothing is in it for us! Nothing!

Interest rates won't come down, so we can't refinance. I can't really complain too much, I'm doing all right, but if I could refinance, I'd be able to spend money on some home improvements that would stimulate the economy.

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

More Bill Cosbys
Less Al Sharptons

re: #210 MandyManners

re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Well, actually the property values are going down at the moment. That should translate into a nice property tax cut, right? :-)

re: #225 paxnhymn

and 204WoG

Yeah, but wouldn't you feel really bad for that first influx of Gaza settlers?...

ugggh.

If it were done my way, the remaining Gazans would be too scared to say boo, let alone attack the settlers.

Fark, who lies there?

Kos

re: #216 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Heh. I'm a capitalist pig too. You are wise - fixed rate or nothing!

I just like renting. I remember Forrest Gump saying "Rent everything. Rent your shoes if you can." I like being able to pack up and bug out if necessary. There is probably some deep, psychological reason for that, but I don't know what it is.

re: #229 Beobachter

Well, actually the property values are going down at the moment. That should translate into a nice property tax cut, right? :-)

Not if the market gets artificially inflated by say a 300 billion dollar infusion to keep the values up.

re: #230 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Just a fine point. They aren't "settlers" per say as that has a legal definition. which presumes that the land they are on is "occupied".

They are Jewish residents of Gaza.

re: #209 TimeQuake

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re: #207 Catttt

Fat bloody chance!

The other day, a friend of mine told me about a co-worker of hers who was whining about how she couldn't improve her life style. She was up to her eyebrows in credit card debt, and couldn't figure out why she shouldn't be given everything she wanted on a silver platter.

It annoys me to no end, probably you, too.

re: #232 Catttt

Heh. I'm a capitalist pig too. You are wise - fixed rate or nothing!

I just like renting. I remember Forrest Gump saying "Rent everything. Rent your shoes if you can." I like being able to pack up and bug out if necessary. There is probably some deep, psychological reason for that, but I don't know what it is.

Do you have some herding abilities?

re: #232 Catttt

Heh. I'm a capitalist pig too. You are wise - fixed rate or nothing!

I just like renting. I remember Forrest Gump saying "Rent everything. Rent your shoes if you can." I like being able to pack up and bug out if necessary. There is probably some deep, psychological reason for that, but I don't know what it is.

I own my car. I own my guns. I own everything under my roof, I just dont own my roof.

re: #231 Shug

Heh.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Fark.

Fark who?

Fark Kos.

Heh.

The host committee for the Democratic National Convention wanted 15,000 fanny packs for volunteers. But they had to be made of organic cotton. By unionized labor. In the USA.

Official merchandiser Bob DeMasse scoured the country. His weary conclusion: "That just doesn't exist."

Ditto for the baseball caps. "We have a union cap or an organic cap," Mr. DeMasse says. "But we don't have a union-organic offering."

re: #239 Honorary Yooper

Heh.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Fark.

Fark who?

Fark Kos.

Farkos Foulitsas?

re: #234 WrathofG-d

Just a fine point. They aren't "settlers" per say as that has a legal definition. which presumes that the land they are on is "occupied".

They are Jewish residents of Gaza.

A good point. Falling for their terms. The only occupation going on in Israel is Pali squatters on Israeli land.

re: #175 Diamond Bullet

Here are a few differences.

1) The Republican seals are for an organization created by President Reagan when he already was, um, President.

2) The Republican seals are pared down versions that invoke the iconography of the Presidential Seal without doing any violence to it. By contrast, Obama's version(s) bastardizes the seal by, among other offences, converting his inane "Si, Se Puede" theology into crude Latin in an effort to make it weighty. In this manner, it inadvertently reflects his overarching message that America really isn't anything special until he gets his hand on it and "improves" it to the point his wife will finally be proud of it.

3) There is a sometimes subtle but nonetheless important line between using imagery respectfully, and cheapening it through crude symbolism. See, e.g., Time Magazine's "Iwo Jima Tree Raising" cover. Obama's co-opting of the Presidential seal lacks any substantive basis since he, you know, hasn't actually won, and smacks of hubris in the same fashion of professional athlete stupidly kissing the championship trophy before actually winning it. Thankfully, the universe typically rewards such stupidity with monstrous, soul-crushing jinxes of the type undoubtedly barrelling down the rails at Comrade Obama even as we speak.

Thanks for the opinion. This provides context to the issue. I was just on The Weekly Standard where the issue of legality was raised and after reading the law came to a similar conclusion.

I agree with you on your second point and, though I am not a legal scholar, understand how his changes (to promote himself) are in contrast to "a false impression of sponsorship or approval" as written in the law.

Fark Casper Gomez and fark the farking Diaz brothers.

re: #240 Peacekeeper

Your typical union grunt in the USA sees the organic crap for what it is.

re: #216 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Go! Go!

Yay!

Since I can only ding you up once, I thought I'd add that.

re: #240 Peacekeeper

btw: did you hear that Hillary is asking the DNC and/or Obam'uh to refund the 12 million she personally invested into her OWN campaign?

WTheck is that about? To me it shows the mindset of our "Government" (ie: they think the rules don't apply to them, and that they should get a free ride)

re: #239 Honorary Yooper

Heh.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Fark.

Fark who?

Fark Kos.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Boo.

Fark poster runs away!

re: #148 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The pollsters will take all the no votes and use them to support their talking points, which given the MSM, will be the liberal side.

I've had a lot of Republican phone bank experience over the years, and it astounds me how many people will base their votes on what is reflected in any poll they read, or even 'poll results' they hear about second hand.

If you said to a phone respondent "Kerry is ahead in the polls", a surprising number would reply 'ohhhh - then maybe I should vote for him....' and further drawing out would reveal that they weren't being sarcastic.

These phony polls do elicit a significant response, so they shouldn't be glossed over. No wonder Newsweek is ahead of the lib pack in publicizing their faked results. Their target is an audience of middle class independents.

re: #217 lawhawk

Mostly, it's bailing out speculators and people who should never have gotten a loan in the first place.

But Matt Burns, a spokesman for the Republican convention, looks on with undisguised glee at some of the Democrats' efforts -- such as the "lean 'n' green" catering guidelines.

Among them: No fried food. And, on the theory that nutritious food is more vibrant, each meal should include "at least three of the following colors: red, green, yellow, blue/purple, and white." (Garnishes don't count.) At least 70% of ingredients should be organic or grown locally, to minimize emissions from fuel burned during transportation. "One would think," says Mr. Burns, "that the Democrats in Denver have bigger fish to bake -- they have ruled out frying already -- than mandating color-coordinated pretzel platters."

Anyone old enough to remember the old patriotism? (Sigh).

Democrats say the point is to build habits that will endure long after the convention. To that end, the city has staged "greening workshops" attended by hundreds of caterers, restaurant owners and hotel managers. "It's the new patriotism," Mayor Hickenlooper says.

re: #132 HoosierHoops

U.S. high court already had made clear that capital punishment could not be imposed without the death of the victim, except possibly for espionage or treason.

I'm inclined to follow the logic of the court..( yea..it happens every couple of years )
Without death to the victim as horrible as the crime is, I can't see an state execution.. But i do believe that the punishment should be for life.. They are getting 20 years for the crime..never ever ever should they be freed for such a horrible crime.

Life is good for these filthy bags of pus. Let prison justice take care of them.

re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Not in California - but that's only because of Prop 13, all those years ago.

Though mine are swinging enough as it stands!

#235 Charles

Thank you, I will try that.

re: #216 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Agreed. I say suck it up!

I, OTOH, am waiting for the market to hit botton, then; capitolist pig leaching off of other's misery person that I am, will buy my first home in a buyers market and for the lowest price possible within my means. With 20% down and a fixed rate 15 year mortgage.

Don't worry too much about it hitting bottom, just buy within your means. And that means you should make sure you can make the monthly payments easily, no matter how much you put down. I put down 3% on a 30-year fixed rate, but I can make the payments without sweating. I manage to save a little while doing so. However, always insist on a fixed rate. That's what I did when I bought. If the bottom line had said ARM, I would've sent it back, ASAP.

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

To be able to not have to "discuss race in a practical manner" at all should be the objective.

Ridiculing the racism of the Obama campaign is a good step in that direction. His greatest service to this country--other than losing the election--will be the way he has opened the door to ridiculing the race hustle.

Gah, and from the mortgage bailout article:

"...and members of the Congressional Black Caucus call it unacceptable, arguing it doesn't do enough to address the needs of black Americans."

What the hell does this have to do with race?

re: #235 Charles

Those are all symptoms of Javascript being disabled. Check the Firefox settings for Javascript -- it has to be turned on or those features won't work.

Excellent diagnosis Charles. Why didn't I think about that, when I read about this problem.

OT: Bruce Bawer on the New York Times' history of whitewashing totalitarianism (from Uncle Joe to the Religion of Peace). Must-read.

re: #240 Peacekeeper,

I read that earlier today. Too fucking funny. I think the Donks should do their convention in hemp. Hemp loin-cloths, hemp rope, hemp prayer rugs for the terrorists Islamically inclined, hemp everything.

Did you catch this gem?

Democrats say the point is to build habits that will endure long after the convention. To that end, the city has staged "greening workshops" attended by hundreds of caterers, restaurant owners and hotel managers. "It's the new patriotism," Mayor Hickenlooper says.

Because Democrats don't need any stinkin' old patriotism.

re: #253 buzzsawmonkey

:-)

re: #157 paxnhymn

I am for the death penalty, but I find your post majorly creepy. Harvesting organs? That's what communist China does-you want America to take the lead from communist China? The criminal gets DEAD, end of story for him/her. "Harvesting" their organs? Super creepy.

re: #157 paxnhymn

I have been watchin for this decision. It's no secret that I am one of the few conservatives apposed to the death penalty, and this supports my argument. But not for the obvious reasons. The reason I am against capital punishment, as a DS vet and a 7 year veteran of ICU nursing, is quite simple;
IT'S A WASTE OF PERFECTLY GOOD ORGANS!
If we wanna make a perv pay his debt to society, then the best way is to have him stripped of his rights to his self-determination, set a date and have him "distributed" to hosts that need the organs. That way the perp/perv can FINALLY be useful to the society he is indebted to; and as a sidebar if someone is "distributed" in error then the loss of his consciousness was not a total waste and travesty.

I wouldn't want an organ from a child rapist. Yuck.

re: #240 Peacekeeper

But are those fanny packs certified dolphin safe?

(BTW, if you want to provide others with endless mirth, visit the UK and talk a lot about your "fanny pack")

re: #229 Beobachter

If you apply for a reassessment, yes. But that's a chancy thing.

re: #228 WrathofG-d

One should not forget that NONE of Olmerts children surved in the IDF, one lives out of the Country, and another is an Anti-Israel activist.

How does that go over with the voters?

Pigeon shoot at Wimbledon...

Wimbledon under fire for pigeon cull

LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Wimbledon came under fire from animal activists on Tuesday for using marksmen to shoot down dive-bombing pigeons.

The tournament employs two hawks to scare away pigeons who had become a pest swooping down on Centre Court and distracting players in the middle of tense matches.

But the hawks failed to keep the pigeons away from the players’ lawn and the open-air media restaurant so marksmen were called in.

“The hawks are our first line of deterrent, and by and large they do the job,” Wimbledon spokesman Johnny Perkins said.

“But unfortunately there were one or two areas where the hawks didn’t deter the pigeons, so it was deemed necessary to take a harder approach,” he explained.

The marksmen were summoned by Wimbledon as pigeon droppings on the restaurant tables were thought to be a health hazard.

The decision to call in the marksmen was condemned as “cruel and illegal behaviour” by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) which complained to the tournament organisers and the police.