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Bawer: The Times, It Ain't A-Changin'

Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:07:13 pm PDT

Here’s another good piece by Bruce Bawer on the New York Times’ ongoing crusade to whitewash and sanitize the image of Islam: The Times, It Ain’t a-Changin’.

Just imagine the world picture of somebody whose primary — or even (God forbid!) sole — source of news is the New York Times.

In particular, imagine that person’s image of Islam — and of the problems and issues surrounding the growing presence of Islam in the West today. At the Times — as at other important news organizations — the slant on Islam has been shaped almost exclusively by apologists like Karen Armstrong (author of Muhammed: A Prophet for Our Time) and John Esposito (director of the Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University). In March, the New York Times Magazine published a long essay by another major apologist, Harvard law professor and Times Magazine contributing writer Noah Feldman, who took (shall we say) an exceedingly generous view of sharia law and its proponents. Last Sunday, the magazine ran a new piece by Feldman, arguing that Muslims are Europe’s “new pariahs” and that the only real problem related the rise of Islam in Europe today is — guess what? — European racism.

It’s a familiar claim, to put it mildly, and Feldman served up the usual rhetoric, conflating the nationalist bigots of Belgium’s Vlaams Belang party with people like the Netherlands’ Geert Wilders, whose views on the Islamization of Europe are rooted in liberal values. Feldman dismissed as “prejudice” concern about first-cousin marriages among Muslims — never mind that almost all such marriages are forced, that the overwhelming majority involve rape and abuse, and that those who have campaigned hardest against them are not “racists” but women’s rights advocates. Feldman deep-sixed the catastrophic rise in rape, gay-bashing, and other crimes by young European Muslim males, the extensive abuse of European welfare systems that is helping to destroy them, and the broad-based cultural jihad which ultimately seeks nothing less than the replacement of democracy with sharia. Feldman insisted that “a hallmark of liberal, secular societies is supposed to be respect for different cultures, including traditional, religious cultures — even intolerant ones.” That’s easy to say about things happening on the other side of an ocean from your Ivy League office. I’d like to see Feldman tell this to gay people in Amsterdam, where ten years ago they felt safer than anyplace else on earth and where Muslim youths now beat them up in broad daylight in the middle of town. Or why doesn’t he try this line on Jewish children in France, who according to a French government report can no longer get an education in that country because of severe harassment (and worse) by Muslim classmates?

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1 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:08:33pm

I shudder to think of anyone's outlook on Islam if their only source of information was the NYT. Ugh.

2 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:09:23pm
Or why doesn’t he try this line on Jewish children in France, who according to a French government report can no longer get an education in that country because of severe harassment (and worse) by Muslim classmates?

It just never ends.

3 see bs  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:10:40pm

Of course it ain't-a-changin until we are all slaves (or worse) in a Islamic world.

4 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:10:57pm

more LGF propaganda.

Everyone knows that Bush's illegal Iraq war caused the 9/11 attacks.

~/

5 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:11:03pm

The link is not working for me.

6 maddogg  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:11:37pm

Actually, the Times is changing......getting smaller, and smaller, and smaller, and smaller........................................... .............*pop*

7 Prikolno  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:12:36pm

Here is the direct link.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

8 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:12:49pm

re: #1 ModerateWolverine

I'd expand it to most of the big media since the NYT is a leading indicator - its coverage shades that of other outlets.

9 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:13:00pm

The New York Dhimmi Times.

10 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:13:25pm

re: #6 maddogg

Actually, the Times is changing......getting smaller, and smaller, and smaller, and smaller................................. .......................*pop*

I can't wait to see the "FOR LEASE" signs go up in the first floor windows of their building.

11 Charles  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:14:18pm

Link is fixed now.

12 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:14:34pm
13 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:15:00pm

re: #10 Ward Cleaver

Between the UN building and the NY Times building, just think about how many durg addicts, and homless people could be taken off the street in New York.

~Change I Can Believe In.

14 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:15:33pm
15 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:16:42pm

re: #13 WrathofG-d

Indeed.

16 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:16:48pm

European Racism is a problem. It reminds me a lot of the racism in the Democratic party.

17 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:16:53pm
18 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:17:42pm
Duranty claimed to want to bring about “Russian-American...understanding” — which is to say that he used the word “understanding” in exactly the same way that it’s often used now vis-à-vis Islam. (What’s being encouraged, of course, isn’t understanding at all but its opposite — a determination not to understand, see, or acknowledge certain facts. In the 1930s, Britons who were desperate to avoid war with the Nazis also spoke about “understanding” in this way - refusing to recognize that there are some things that, once properly understood, must be actively resisted and destroyed.)

Sound like a certain political platform supported by the Dem nominee.

19 mean Gene  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:19:29pm

Bruce B. does make one painfully aware of why there are such oblivious fools all around us: there really are people whose idea of news coverage is the NYTimes, CBS and MSNBC.
No wonder!

20 Tumulus11  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:20:02pm
'Perhaps most intrepid of all was a young Welshman, Gareth Jones, who published at least twenty articles in the U.S. and Britain about the famine. Because, unlike Duranty, he had no impressive institutional credentials, Jones’s articles drew little notice; yet one of them, which appeared in the Manchester Guardian, so unsettled the Kremlin that the Soviet Press Censor, Constantine Oumansky, gathered together all the Western correspondents in Moscow and persuaded them — apparently with little difficulty — to write articles calling Jones a liar. Duranty came through like a trouper: in a piece headlined 'Russians Hungry, But Not Starving,' he savaged Jones’s reportage.'

. The Times, 1932: 'Russians Hungry, But Not Starving'

The Times today: 'Despite Some Terrorist Attacks, Islam Generally Benign'

21 iowavette  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:20:10pm

Europe R US in another 10 - 20 years. But, how much will it really matter when we'll be reading by candlelight, commuting in the green equivalent of a POS Tercel rice-grinder with speed tracked enroute and generally living a much less stylish life once the dhimmi's get their paws on our livelihoods. I used to be a typical Scot, glass half empty individual. With the dhimmi's looming on the near horizon, I'm a full blown glass empty now.

22 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:20:23pm

Bawer isn't entirely correct. Islam is changing. Every year that we in the West show tolerance for intolerance, and are willing to give up more of our freedoms, our culture, and our rights to accommodate backwards savages who never offer to meet us even halfway, Islam changes. It gets more bold, more arrogant, more demanding, more deadly, and more focused on it's goal of world domination (not to mention more confident about achieving it).

The question isn't "Will the West have to wage war on all of Islam just to save itself?", the question is only "How long before..."

23 Cognito  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:20:26pm

This, to me, is not a complex concern.

On this side of the Atlantic we sorted it out a long time ago: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."

There are people everywhere -- of the Islamist and Racist varieties -- who even now don't follow that line of thinking. They are both wrong. (Although Feldman does Wilders a disservice, in this story, tossing him in with racists.)

24 Maine's Michael  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:20:35pm
I’d like to see Feldman tell this to gay people in Amsterdam, where ten years ago they felt safer than anyplace else on earth and where Muslim youths now beat them up in broad daylight in the middle of town.

Muslims invented daylight.

I read it in the NYTIMES.

25 ec marm  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:20:58pm

I have to say that in the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society, the New York Times has one foot in the financial grave.

26 Maine's Michael  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:21:40pm

Soft racism of diminished expectations, thy name is NYTIMES.

27 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:22:10pm

As I said in a spinoff comment, the oil ticks can buy off our media, academics and business leaders in wholesale lots, to say nothing of the hordes of traitorous mercenary lawyers they own.

This may be why there is so little effective opposition to Muslim intimidation and censorship from people who normally howl to the rafters over any encroachment on their right to say whatever they please; lefty professors, kumbaya pop-culturists, the ACLU, various “human rights” activists.

Indeed, most of these groups seem to care only about only an imaginary Muslim right to suppress whatever they find hurtful to the feelings of head-chopping savages and their facilitators.

28 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:22:20pm
29 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:23:35pm
Not only did the Times give America a fraudulent picture of the Soviet Union in the 1930s; its coverage of the Holocaust in the next decade suggests a determination both to maintain an appearance of impartiality and to preserve an illusion that Hitler’s regime was not as monstrous as it really was. Hitler’s destruction of the Jews was so blatantly evil that to write about it in a civilized and responsible manner meant taking sides; but that was apparently too much for the Times to ask of itself.

This still exists today in the MSM.

30 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:24:21pm
31 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:24:35pm
Feldman insisted that “a hallmark of liberal, secular societies is supposed to be respect for different cultures, including traditional, religious cultures — even intolerant ones.”

And of course Feldman is ignoring the fact that the concept of "tolerance" as developed by, most notably, Locke, implied reciprocal obligations on the part of members of society. It explicitly did NOT extend tolerance to the intolerant.

32 Suihei Deloi  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:25:14pm
...arguing that Muslims are Europe’s “new pariahs” and that the only real problem related the rise of Islam in Europe today is — guess what? — European racism.

I wonder what my Aunt-in-Law would think of that. She left Paris for Italy last year because of the violence - she was a buyer for a fashion store chain. One of those incidents involved a young fool who drove a truck into the building she worked in. Luckily for everyone else, his bomb making skills were even worse than his driving.

33 Cognito  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:25:20pm

re: #31 Occasional Reader

And of course Feldman is ignoring the fact that the concept of "tolerance" as developed by, most notably, Locke, implied reciprocal obligations on the part of members of society. It explicitly did NOT extend tolerance to the intolerant.

Interesting.

34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:25:29pm

This is OT, but I just picked this up on Drudge...

I think I'm gonna hurl!

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

35 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:26:27pm
36 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:26:49pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This is OT, but I just picked this up on Drudge...

I think I'm gonna hurl!

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

A Jedi? He looks more lik an ET !

37 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:27:00pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This is OT, but I just picked this up on Drudge...

I think I'm gonna hurl!

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

But Obama's national security advisor said that terrorists model themselves on Luke Skywalker.

38 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:27:08pm

re: #23 Cognito

This, to me, is not a complex concern.

On this side of the Atlantic we sorted it out a long time ago: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."

There are people everywhere -- of the Islamist and Racist varieties -- who even now don't follow that line of thinking. They are both wrong. (Although Feldman does Wilders a disservice, in this story, tossing him in with racists.)

That's good in theory, but look around, we have people in Virginia looking the other way when Islam is teaching hate. The 'scholars' (I use the term loosely) were from here. They are educating our youth. Things might have been sorted, but times are a changing, perhaps in the wrong direction...

39 Suihei Deloi  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:27:40pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Then I'm turning to the Dark Side....

/digging out the Sith club membership card

40 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:27:46pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Lucas already said that the emperor in Revenge of the Sith is a stand-in for Karl Rove. The guy is a BDS loser who hasn't made a watchable film since I was in Grammar school. I guess it's true that all artists do their best work in their 20s, and spend the rest of their lives making parodies of their previous works.

41 paradox42  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:28:34pm
Feldman insisted that “a hallmark of liberal, secular societies is supposed to be respect for different cultures, including traditional, religious cultures — even intolerant ones.”

So Mr. Feldman, should we tolerate, state sponsored anti-semitism, gender apartheid, honor murders, state sanctioned murder of rape victims, gays, and apostates, ethnic cleansing of religious minorites, desecration of sacred objects that aren't yours, female genital mutilation, and the glorification of killers?

Not a chance in hell.

Our culture is better, end of story.

42 markie  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:29:07pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I always knew Lucas spent too much time in his fantasy world. He needs to get out more often.


George, you're a putz.

43 akak  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:29:08pm

"Obama or die" P Diddy

/something for Michelle to be proud of!

44 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:29:43pm
45 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:29:54pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

The original star wars trilogy was fun to watch. Lucas would have credibility if he had rested on those laurals and the "prequel" movies were never made. But, alas, the prequel movies were made. So his opinion is about the same as whover made that Ishtar flick.

46 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:30:12pm

thoroughly enjoyed that article.

47 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:30:15pm

re: #41 paradox42

Our culture is better, end of story.

The one thing liberals, academics, and other mulit-culti types can never bring themselves to admit.

48 Cognito  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:30:27pm

re: #38 coquimbojoe

That's good in theory, but look around, we have people in Virginia looking the other way when Islam is teaching hate. The 'scholars' (I use the term loosely) were from here. They are educating our youth. Things might have been sorted, but times are a changing, perhaps in the wrong direction...

I dunno, I think the Declaration was more than just 'good in theory.'

I think it's true: All men do deserve equal rights. The problems start when one group decides to trample over the rights of others. Islamists are champion tramplers. So are the likes of Vlaams Belang.

49 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:30:29pm
50 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:32:37pm

re: #48 Cognito

I think it's true: All men do deserve equal rights.

How Judeo-Christian of you!

51 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:32:38pm

re: #24 Maine's Michael

Feldman is a real self-loathing Jooo.

52 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:32:44pm

re: #43 akak

"Obama or die" P Diddy

/something for Michelle to be proud of!

P Diddy upped the ante for Susan Sarandon, She'll just leave the COUNTRY if Obama isn't elected. Puff will leave the WORLD !

53 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:33:20pm

Why exactly do we care what George Lucas thinks about politics? Or Hollywood for that matter. Heck, that goes for Scarlett too. Who cares. Their fame and fortune comes not for their politics, but their ability to act or attract attention.

The sooner they remember this, the better for their careers.

54 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:33:25pm

re: #48 Cognito

I dunno, I think the Declaration was more than just 'good in theory.'

I think it's true: All men do deserve equal rights. The problems start when one group decides to trample over the rights of others. Islamists are champion tramplers. So are the likes of Vlaams Belang.

I totally agree, but we have many here who will not hold fast to the Declaration. We see creeping sharia in many places. People want to accomodate things in the name of cultural sensitivity that slowly (or not so slowly) will undermine the tenets so many of us hold true.

55 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:33:30pm

re: #51 WriterMom

Feldman is a real self-loathing Jooo.

He's gotten far using the "Noah."

56 Behead Me Bob  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:34:38pm

Hey NY Times:

1. Which "religious" founder was a:?
murderer
torturer
rapist
thief
robber
liar
pedophile

a. Jesus b. Moses c. Buddha d. Mohammed

2. Which Chapter of the Koran deals with how to divvy up stolen
property:?

a. 4 - Women b. 43 - Ornaments of Gold c. 58 - She Who Pleaded
d. 8 - The Spoils

3. Mohammed personally beheaded between 600 - 900 bound and defenseless captives in one day in 627 A.D. These beheadees were:?

a. Mormons b. Christian Scientists c. Amish d. Qurayza Jews

4. The first legible verse of Chapter 1 of the Koran starts with:

a. This book is not be burned
b. This book is not be soiled
c. This book is not be be sold without a cover
d. This book is not to be doubted

Answers: d d d d

/Is speaking the truth about Islam considered Islamaphobic?

57 Suihei Deloi  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:35:36pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Good point.

58 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:35:40pm

re: #53 lawhawk

We care about Scarlett because she's hot. If I met her, I would mask my politics if it gave me a shot.

59 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:35:40pm

re: #31 Occasional Reader

I think I should do a Feldman primer. He's a class-A jerk, and a self-loathing Jew who can't get enough of Islam. He's no dummy-he is fluent in Arabic...but there was a whole "scandal" about him. He cooked up a real fine piece of greivance theatre against his (yeshiva) alma mater...he accused them of editing out his non-Jewish wife out of the reunion photos-it was totally bogus, but gave him an opportunity to bleat about how mean those Jews are etc...he's a real publicity 'ho.

60 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:36:02pm

I really can't think of any Star Wars character that Obama reminds me of.

If there had only been a scene at the Tatooine Country Club in which some character smokes, drinks a martini and snarks at everyone, it would be easier.

61 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:36:48pm

re: #55 Ben Hur

Such.
A.
Schmuck.

Like all the world needed was another effing Jewish moonbat 'scholar' waxing poetic on the virtues of radical Islam.

62 kansas  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:37:01pm

re: #1 ModerateWolverine

I shudder to think of anyone's outlook on Islam anything if their only source of information was the NYT. Ugh.

There. My 2 cents.

63 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:37:03pm

re: #52 sattv4u2

P Diddy upped the ante for Susan Sarandon, She'll just leave the COUNTRY if Obama isn't elected. Puff will leave the WORLD !

Just another on the long list of things to be grateful for when McCain is elected.

64 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:37:23pm

re: #56 Behead Me Bob

4. The first legible verse of Chapter 1 of the Koran starts with:

a) "Steal this book"

b) "WIDE-OPEN BEAVER INSIDE"*

_______________________________
*apologies to Vonnegut

65 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:37:51pm

re: #63 VegasRick

Just another on the long list of things to be grateful for when McCain is elected.

If only any of them would follow up on their "threats".

66 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:37:55pm

Of course, we agree with him. Their culture allows wife beating, "honor" murders, beatings/killings of gay people, Jews, muslims who convert to other religions(etc. etc. etc), rioting and burning about anything they don't agree with -but that is their culture. We must understand that it is our responsibility to allow ourselves to be beaten, killed, or forcibly converted- because their culture allows it.

67 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:38:39pm

Germany 1. Turkey 1.

What is a Joo footy fan to do?

Semi-finals:

Spain. Inquisition.
Russia. Pogroms, Stalin, Soviet Jewry, etc.
Germany. Duh.
Turkey. Yes the Turkish military is pro-Israel, but not the government. And Turkey isn't in Europe anyway.

Germany vs Turkey. Wow. Tensions must be high in Germany.

68 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:38:47pm

re: #58 DeafDog

Hot, yes. Occasionally supports the troops? Sure. But we shouldn't trust her to give opinions on anything beyond her acting skills.

69 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:38:52pm

re: #60 Occasional Reader

I really can't think of any Star Wars character that Obama reminds me of.

If there had only been a scene at the Tatooine Country Club in which some character smokes, drinks a martini and snarks at everyone, it would be easier.

why does the name Chewbama keep popping up in my mind?...

70 Suihei Deloi  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:38:56pm

re: #64 Occasional Reader

LMAO

71 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:39:12pm

Fail....
Hippies Accidentally Create World's Largest Mercedes Symbol


While attempting to create the world's largest peace sign, festival-goers in Ithaca, NY, created the world's largest Mercedes sign by mistake.

5814 participants gathered to form the familiar symbol of pacifist activism, but - through either oversight or stupidity - only formed three of the four radii required to create a traditional peace sign. Since the missing radius was the lower center line, the symbol they formed was actually the trademark hood ornament of the Mercedes-Benz automobile - a quality German luxury car since 1926 - rather than the anti-war symbol created by a British nuclear disarmament protester in 1958.

"Dude, this totally sucks!" observed participant Summer Sunshine Rainbow Rabinowitz. "We were, like, trying to tell Bush McChimpyhitler that his war totally blows, but somehow he managed to get his Haliburton oil buddies in here to screw us over with some sort of totally covert inside job. Just like 9/11!"

72 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:39:20pm
73 opinionated  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:39:36pm

It must be great. You're the New York Times.

In reality, you're overweight. Your sex life is so so, if existent. You've got hemorrhoids. Your TV's remote confuses you to no end. Your kids hate you. Your just a freakin human being.

And you're a Leftist and a Liberal. As are all of your friends. And all you elites think you know best.

We assign too much importance to the Times, Post, and other Gods of the Fourth Estate.

There is no Oracle. There is no burning bush.

The opinions of those who write the opinions in the NYT are as valid and as worthless as anyone who writes anything on LGF.

Unfortunately there are some who still see their personal Gospel in what is published in the Times. But who cares about those fools, they see the World in a unique way shares by almost no one not in their rarefied air.

74 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:39:53pm

re: #65 sattv4u2

If only any of them would follow up on their "threats".

I know. Where does Alec Baldick live now?

75 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:39:54pm

re: #61 WriterMom

Such.
A.
Schmuck.

Like all the world needed was another effing Jewish moonbat 'scholar' waxing poetic on the virtues of radical Islam.


He probably gets disproportionate love because he's a juden.

76 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:40:06pm

re: #67 Ben Hur

You sound like my husband. LOL. Who is the least evil country to root for vis a vis the Jews?

77 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:40:19pm
78 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:41:30pm

re: #76 WriterMom

You sound like my husband. LOL. Who is the least evil country to root for vis a vis the Jews?

Tiger Woods

79 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:41:33pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout


[Link: failblog.org...]

great site

80 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:42:38pm

Just heard Dennis Prager talking about this sort of thing. The day after Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald - who was a bonafide card-carrying Communist - the front page news quoted Chief Justice Earl Warren as saying JFK was shot because of bigotry in the U.S. No mention of Oswald's politics whatsoever.

The left has been sanitizing their sewers for a long time. Just can't get rid of the smell.

81 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:42:59pm

Most of my friends and relations are on the political left and when I try to bring up the subject of Islam in Europe they have absolutely no knowledge of the existence of any problem whatsoever. It's not even on their radar screen.

In fact the entire War on Terror to them is nothing more than a racist, imperialist war against brown people to steal their resources.

The Left live in a different universe....just look at any Lefty blog, radical Islam, al-Queda, Iranian nukes, the Islamazation of Europe, the Muslim Brotherhood etc, none of these things are ever mentioned....NEVER...(unless, of course, it's something that can be used to attack Bush).

The only enemy that the left can imagine is ourselves.

I gave Bawers book to my lefty, college art teacher brother-in-law, he refused to read it....said it was a racist book. In fact most lefties think it's racist to even think about such things. The very thought must be banished from the mind.

The left lives in an imaginary world, where all the problems of the world are caused by us and any person with pigmentation darker than Michael Moore's ass is innocent by default, regardless of their behavior.

82 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:43:30pm

re: #74 VegasRick

I know. Where does Alec Baldick live now?

I actually sent him a letter offering to pay for his flight out of the country after Bush won after Alec ("my daughter is a little pig") Baldwin said he would leave if Bush won.


ANSWER ,,, chirp chirp chirp

83 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:43:35pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Summer Sunshie Rainbow Rabinowitz?...lol...I don't even no where to begin with that name...lmao

84 Hard Right  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:43:40pm

Change or die. I hope the Times does not change.

85 Suihei Deloi  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:44:04pm

re: #79 Ben Hur

Impressive.

86 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:44:37pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Fail....
Hippies Accidentally Create World's Largest Mercedes Symbol

That's hysterical. 5000+ and no one figured out they were screwing up. Hey lets listen to them on policy.....

87 rawmuse  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:44:44pm

re: #79 Ben Hur

[Link: failblog.org...]

great site

OMG, I needed a laugh, thanks.

88 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:44:45pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Um... I think that's a spoof?

89 Cognito  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:44:51pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Ithaca, NY (AP) - While attempting to create the world's largest peace sign, festival-goers in Ithaca, NY, created the world's largest Mercedes sign by mistake.

5814 participants gathered to form the familiar symbol of pacifist activism, but - through either oversight or stupidity - only formed three of the four radii required to create a traditional peace sign....

"Dude, this totally sucks!" observed participant Summer Sunshine Rainbow Rabinowitz. "We were, like, trying to tell Bush McChimpyhitler that his war totally blows, but somehow he managed to get his Halib.urton oil buddies in here to screw us over with some sort of totally covert inside job. Just like 9/11!"

Other participants, such as Moonglow Moonbeam Johnson suspected less conspiratorial causes. "'Twas the weed, my man. The Acapulco Fire-Bud has a way of rendering one incapable of creating complex geometric figures. Heck, we're lucky we didn't end up with a swastika, or - even worse - the Windows logo."

Ithaca High School sophomore Trevor Dougherty, the organizer of the attempt, claimed they were still successful. "Maybe it's wasn't a peace sign, but Mercedes isn't all gas-guzzling & global warming. After all, the high priestess of high people, Janis Joplin, used it as an icon of war resistance in her song, 'Oh Lord, Won't You Run Over George Bush With a Mercedes Benz', which I once saw on YouTube or maybe somebody's MySpace page."

"Anyway," Dougherty concluded, "we all got super-mega-stoned, and that's what REALLY matters."

Ah... fake. For a thousand reasons.

90 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:45:02pm

re: #76 WriterMom

You sound like my husband. LOL. Who is the least evil country to root for vis a vis the Jews?


We are all like that.

91 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:45:39pm

re: #87 rawmuse

OMG, I needed a laugh, thanks.

You can spend the rest of the day on that blog.

92 Hard Right  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:46:03pm

re: #81 Ringo the Gringo

Most of my friends and relations are on the political left and when I try to bring up the subject of Islam in Europe they have absolutely no knowledge of the existence of any problem whatsoever. It's not even on their radar screen.

In fact the entire War on Terror to them is nothing more than a racist, imperialist war against brown people to steal their resources.

The Left live in a different universe....just look at any Lefty blog, radical Islam, al-Queda, Iranian nukes, the Islamazation of Europe, the Muslim Brotherhood etc, none of these things are ever mentioned....NEVER...(unless, of course, it's something that can be used to attack Bush).

The only enemy that the left can imagine is ourselves.

I gave Bawers book to my lefty, college art teacher brother-in-law, he refused to read it....said it was a racist book. In fact most lefties think it's racist to even think about such things. The very thought must be banished from the mind.

The left lives in an imaginary world, where all the problems of the world are caused by us and any person with pigmentation darker than Michael Moore's ass is innocent by default, regardless of their behavior.

The main theme of the left is denial of reality. They construct the reality they want to see and refuse to allow even the smallest bit of reality in. That's why they go nuts or act irrationally when the truth bites them on the butt or you destroy their arguements. It's like a mini breakdown.

93 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:46:26pm

re: #68 lawhawk

You asked why we cared what Scarlett thinks and her classic good looks is the obvious answer.

BTW - I can't explain why anyone would care about Lucas other than, "he's rich, so he gets a microphone."

94 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:47:45pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Fail....
Hippies Accidentally Create World's Largest Mercedes Symbol

Paging zombie. Will zombie please call his office.

95 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:48:26pm

Wow. Powerful condemnation of the NY Times...and exactly as deserved. I look forward to the paper disappearing...or being taken over and finally brought to heel.

96 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:49:28pm

re: #88 Occasional Reader

Yes, it is.

97 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:49:45pm

The New York Slimes "hiding" something? Who'd 'a thunk it!
Get 'em, Bruce!

JAFLW

/must I?

98 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:50:09pm

re: #89 Cognito

Yeah, it's a spoof.

99 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:50:11pm

re: #40 Lizard by the Bay

Lucas already said that the emperor in Revenge of the Sith is a stand-in for Karl Rove. The guy is a BDS loser who hasn't made a watchable film since I was in Grammar school. I guess it's true that all artists do their best work in their 20s, and spend the rest of their lives making parodies of their previous works.

Yet Obama fits a Sith lord better, asking people to use their anger for change.

He's Anakin Skywalker to Soros's Emperor Palpatine.

100 Opinionated  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:50:30pm

re: #55 Ben Hur

He's gotten far using the "Noah."

Don't you know his story. It made news not long ago when he wrote about it in the Times.

He was raised Modern Orthodox and attended an Orthodox Yeshiva high school.

He was "traumatised" when at a class reunion of that school, he felt that he and his wife were dissed because he had married outside the faith.

101 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:50:33pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Why exactly do we care what George Lucas thinks about politics? Or Hollywood for that matter. Heck, that goes for Scarlett too. Who cares. Their fame and fortune comes not for their politics, but their ability to act or attract attention.

The sooner they remember this, the better for their careers.

In other words, Shut Up And Act/Sing/Direct/etc. I couldn't agree more.

102 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:50:43pm

re: #81 Ringo the Gringo


The Left live in a different universe....just look at any Lefty blog, radical Islam, al-Queda, Iranian nukes, the Islamazation of Europe, the Muslim Brotherhood etc, none of these things are ever mentioned....NEVER...(unless, of course, it's something that can be used to attack Bush).

I was struck with that over and over during the presidential nominating processes. The USA is a truly bipolar country right now.

103 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:52:49pm

re: #97 Just Another Four-letter Word

The New York Slimes "hiding" something? Who'd 'a thunk it!
Get 'em, Bruce!

JAFLW

/must I?

I think "trying" to hide would be more apropriate. With sites like LGF and others the hiding only lasts a little while and then the dinosaur media is seen for what it truly is.

104 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:53:26pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Why exactly do we care what George Lucas thinks about politics? Or Hollywood for that matter. Heck, that goes for Scarlett too.

I'd need for you to link to more pics of Scarlett to be able to make up my mind on your question.

105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:53:34pm

re: #79 Ben Hur

[Link: failblog.org...]

great site

I go there every day.

106 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:53:42pm

#71 Killgore Trout

Fail....
Hippies Accidentally Create World's Largest Mercedes Symbol

I have found out the reason why the center line is left off the peace symbol. A friend (a far, far lefty) explained that the center line is actually a phallic symbol, and therefore a symbol of masculinity and male dominance.

The "new" peace symbol has been appropriately castrated.

You just can't make this shit up.

107 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:54:38pm

re: #104 Occasional Reader

You ask, I deliver.

108 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:55:03pm

re: #80 ladycatnip

Just heard Dennis Prager talking about this sort of thing. The day after Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald - who was a bonafide card-carrying Communist - the front page news quoted Chief Justice Earl Warren as saying JFK was shot because of bigotry in the U.S. No mention of Oswald's politics whatsoever.

The left has been sanitizing their sewers for a long time. Just can't get rid of the smell.

Yes, but they now put out so much crap daily that they can't keep up with the sanitization, and the stench is beginning to be noticeable. Yes, the Sheeple are beginning to smell the stink...

JAFLW

109 formercorpsman  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:55:13pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Hence, my ding up with no reply.

You threw some tacks on the floor.

Chuckling.

110 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:55:34pm

re: #89 Cognito

It screamed satire.

111 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:55:35pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

You sure that didn't come from the Onion? Sure sounds like something they would write.

112 paradox42  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:55:49pm

re: #100 Opinionated

Given that intermarriage is taboo in Jewish culture, shouldn't he tolerate the intolerance? Or does that line only apply to others?

113 mj  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:56:35pm

The only portion of the article that could have been a bit better was when Bawer was giving the reasons for the Times lack of coverage of the Holocaust. He really should have mentioned the deep self-hatred of the Ochs/Sulzberger's family. That self-hatred is also partially responsible for the Times lack of coverage of the genocidal aspirations of Muslims in their war against Israel.

114 DeafDog  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:57:29pm

re: #107 lawhawk

You ask, I deliver.

What an intellect! (I can tell from the photos)

115 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:58:11pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This is OT, but I just picked this up on Drudge...

I think I'm gonna hurl!

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

Here's a great comment from the story:
Uhh...: I suppose some might take exception if I suggested he was more like Jar-Jar Binks...?
June 25, 3:41 PM

Priceless.

116 Reno911  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:58:18pm

re: #1 ModerateWolverine

I shudder to think of anyone's outlook on Islam life if their only source of information was the NYT. Ugh.

117 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:58:46pm

re: #103 VegasRick

I think "trying" to hide would be more apropriate. With sites like LGF and others the hiding only lasts a little while and then the dinosaur media is seen for what it truly is.

I bow to your superior analysis.

Hey, I'm at work, okay?

JAFLW

118 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:59:20pm

re: #100 Opinionated

Don't you know his story. It made news not long ago when he wrote about it in the Times.

He was raised Modern Orthodox and attended an Orthodox Yeshiva high school.

He was "traumatised" when at a class reunion of that school, he felt that he and his wife were dissed because he had married outside the faith.

I'm sure the story was written before he got to the reunion.

119 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 12:59:42pm

re: #113 mj

"Burried By the Times" is a devastating history of the rot of the Times. It should come with a barf bag.

120 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:00:49pm

re: #119 WriterMom

"Burried By the Times" is a devastating history of the rot of the Times. It should come with a barf bag.

If you are holding the Times, you are holding a barf bag.

121 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:01:11pm

re: #56 Behead Me Bob

Hey NY Times:

1. Which "religious" founder was a:?
murderer
torturer
rapist
thief
robber
liar
pedophile

a. Jesus b. Moses c. Buddha d. Mohammed

2. Which Chapter of the Koran deals with how to divvy up stolen
property:?

a. 4 - Women b. 43 - Ornaments of Gold c. 58 - She Who Pleaded
d. 8 - The Spoils

3. Mohammed personally beheaded between 600 - 900 bound and defenseless captives in one day in 627 A.D. These beheadees were:?

a. Mormons b. Christian Scientists c. Amish d. Qurayza Jews

4. The first legible verse of Chapter 1 of the Koran starts with:

a. This book is not be burned
b. This book is not be soiled
c. This book is not be be sold without a cover
d. This book is not to be doubted

Answers: d d d d

/Is speaking the truth about Islam considered Islamaphobic?

Of course it is! Because Islam doesn't believe in speaking the truth.

122 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:01:56pm

re: #120 Ford_Prefect

So true!

123 LEGION  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:02:13pm

re: #101 Ford_Prefect

I say reply to Lucas as Rhett did to Scarlet- Frankly Georgie-boy, we don't give a damn what you think/say!

124 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:03:24pm

re: #107 lawhawk

You ask, I deliver.

Thank you.

Now, what was the question?

Oh, who cares.

125 mikalm  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:08:24pm

re: #106 Ringo the Gringo

#71 Killgore Trout

I have found out the reason why the center line is left off the peace symbol. A friend (a far, far lefty) explained that the center line is actually a phallic symbol, and therefore a symbol of masculinity and male dominance.

The "new" peace symbol has been appropriately castrated.

You just can't make this shit up.

You've got to be kidding.

126 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:08:31pm

re: #124 Occasional Reader

Thank you.

Now, what was the question?

Oh, who cares.

Here's a picture of Angie Harmon, known Hollywood Republican & just as easy on the eyes as Scarlett is.

127 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:10:12pm

re: #34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Not only is Lucas a hack, but the creepy political/philosophical positions his supposedly noble and alturistic Jedi espouse (renouncing all attachments, refusal to care for others) are anti-human and repulsive.

Oh, George, George, once you give into the Dark Side, forever will it dominate your life. . . .

128 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:13:50pm

re: #127 TalkinKamel

Not only is Lucas a hack, but the creepy political/philosophical
positions his supposedly noble and alturistic Jedi espouse (renouncing
all attachments, refusal to care for others) are anti-human and
repulsive.


Not to mention that they all but kidnap Force-sensitive children from their parents in order to raise them as Jedi. By the end of Episode III, I was rooting for Vader.

129 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:16:24pm

re: #127 TalkinKamel

refusal to care for others

I don't remember that espoused as a Jedi value. (Other than OWK simply strolling away to leave Annakin to slowly burn to death (or so he thought) rather than either rescuing him or finishing him off humanely... that was some cold shit, Obi-Wan.)

130 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:25:27pm

re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I go there every day.

Check out the "missile fail" video on this page. I can't stop laughing.

131 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:27:33pm

re: #79 Ben Hur

[Link: failblog.org...]

great site

And pic #2 is the best: Obama on Inaguration Day.

132 jemima  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:28:12pm

Scarlett Johansson considers herself socially conscious and gets an HIV test every 6 months.

Anyone wonder why she'd think that would be necessary?

[Link: www.contactmusic.com...]

133 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:29:06pm

re: #87 rawmuse

OMG, I needed a laugh, thanks.

Read the comments on picture #1 and you may hurt something! LOLOL!

134 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:31:22pm

re: #120 Ford_Prefect

If you are holding the Times, you are holding a barf bag.

A used barf bag.

135 offendi  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 1:40:06pm

Agenda is prized over reality. It is best to always hew to what works towards the goal of achieving the liberal-strong leftist goals than acknowledging harsh and inconsistent realities.

People who eat brie, make driving their sensible and ecologically friendly cars equal their morality, and accept the religions that they were raised in as being simply quaint mythology, can never understand people whose belief system is fixed, intractable, and determinative.

The Times reflects an ideological bent to an "excuses" culture that is overly nuanced and made self-complicated. Our enemies have no qualms, see everything in black and white, and question nothing. The Times, and its intended audience, is ill-prepared to understand much at all.

136 littleben  Wed, Jun 25, 2008 2:25:17pm

re: #51 WriterMom

Feldman is a real self-loving narcissist who hates-loathing Jooo.


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