Open sesame!

A cat's dream come true.

Yet another nice quote, Charles.

Liberals have fried their brains - all that's left are feelings, and impulses, and fears.

Yay! an open thread! We can talk about EVOLUTION!

re: #5 Salem
You are an evil, evil man. But funny! LOL!

Hey I could use a little cash, anyone out there want to bet on Obama's being born in Hawaii? I say he was and will lay even odds against those who say he wasn't.

Reminds me of "Deep Thoughts" from Saturday Night Live ... ;-)

But if you want to communicate with another thinking human being, get in touch with your thoughts.

*sticks finger in ear*

re: #4 DistantThunder

Liberals Leftists have fried their brains - all that's left are feelings, and impulses, and fears.

Fixed that for ya.

I predict a touchy feely thread

re: #11 Shug Hey Shug, how are ya doing tonight?

re: #11 Shug

I predict a touchy feely thread

Pull my finger! Is that touchy enough?

re: #6 realwest

You are an evil, evil man. But funny! LOL!

Well, we know more about Evolution than Obama, and the islamic rascals are always courteous enough to let us know when we've ignored them too long anyway, so there is the practical aspect of it.

OK, since this is an open thread, I'll repost this just once, then never again!

I’m Pro-Zombie and I Vote: our new mascot

This is NOT a picture of me. Nor is it a picture by me. It’s actually a real picture of a protester at a “zombie walk” in Seattle taken by fellow citizen journalist Byron Dazey. I just thought it was so appropriate for zomblog that I’m inaugurating Mr. “I’m Pro-Zombie and I Vote” here as the new zomblog mascot! I’m also sticking a miniature version of him permanently over in the sidebar. (Temporarily permanently, at least.)

I have no idea yet for what purpose I’ll ever use this photo (other than posting it here), but perhaps one day it will be exactly what I need. Until then: if anyone else has a reason to download and use this photo (or the mini version to the right), go right ahead (and credit should go to “Byron Dazey,” not me).

Welcome to our new mascot!

And a question for everyone to ponder: Are you pro-zombie, and do you vote?

Life can hurt. Try not to dwell on that part of it.

re: #7 realwest

Hey I could use a little cash, anyone out there want to bet on Obama's being born in Hawaii? I say he was and will lay even odds against those who say he wasn't.

Hiya RW!

My theory is Hillary wants the VP slot, and if Barry fails to name her by the end of next week, look for some more dirt. This birth certificate thing may be a part of that.

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
Another
Evolving Day!

re: #7 realwest

Hey I could use a little cash, anyone out there want to bet on Obama's being born in Hawaii? I say he was and will lay even odds against those who say he wasn't.

I thought that was put to bed, then I read this from American Thinker.

Obama's anti-smear site relies on a phony document

For some time now Just One Minute's commenter jmh, Polarik at Townhall and others have examined the "birth certificate" for Obama published on the Daily Kos site as well as the site Obama has established to respond to the "smears" against him.

The documents are not identical and seem obviously phony.

I guess I back in the agnostic camp on BHO birth. How hard is it to get a FOIA on a birth record in Honolulu?

It would be OK with me if some of these damn fires in CA. were out. The air is getting bad. I am not getting my exercise. Eyes burn, throat scratches.

/bitching mode off.

Hmmm. . . A loose thread to pull?

re: #7 realwest

Hey I could use a little cash, anyone out there want to bet on Obama's being born in Hawaii? I say he was and will lay even odds against those who say he wasn't.

No bet from me!
My own guess is that his parents were not married. If so, I see no reason why it should be made public. In fact, I'd rather it weren't.

re: #12 realwest

Good. Hope you are the same
you're up early aren't ya?

or is it late ?

re: #23 Shug

time be time

re: #15 zombie

OK, since this is an open thread, I'll repost this just once, then never again!

I’m Pro-Zombie and I Vote: our new mascot

zombie I assumed you were the Zodiac killer lookalike in the upper right corner.

guess not

Bollywood Babes!

SCOTUS will deliver it's decision on the Heller case on Weds. From what little I've read about the arguments, it sounds like Kennedy will come down on the right side of this one.

Anyone have a read on what's likely to happen?

re: #20 rawmuse

It would be OK with me if some of these damn fires in CA. were out. The air is getting bad. I am not getting my exercise. Eyes burn, throat scratches.

/bitching mode off.

Did you see the sun this afternoon and evening? Deep, dark red. Even though it was still high in the sky.

Every time I open a window or a door, I am struck physically by the strong smell of smoke and burning. But the nearest fire is dozens of miles away!

It seems all of Nothern California is under a thick pall of smoke. It's very apocalyptic.

re: #22 wolfie

No bet from me!
My own guess is that his parents were not married. If so, I see no reason why it should be made public. In fact, I'd rather it weren't.

OHMYGOD! Are you saying BHO might be a.... a... BASTARD!

Heck, I already know he's a commie bastard!

Where do thoughts come from?

Ah, Safire.

Who does that fella work for, again?

re: #30 So?

Around my office, no where.

re: #17 Racer X
Hey my friend - uh, since you're a pal, lemme give you a tip - DO NOT bet the ranch on Obama's not having been born in Hawaii - I think this Certificate of Live Birth is just something to give all of us Obamahaters something to chew on, with no sustinence to be gained by it.

re: #32 pat

Around my office, no where.

Thoughts do come from nowhere. Imagine that.

re: #15 zombie

OK, I'm lost. What exactly (aside from your works) could someone possibly mean by being "Pro-zombie"?

/that he votes is quite frightening in itself

re: #17 Racer X

Hiya RW!

My theory is Hillary wants the VP slot, and if Barry fails to name her by the end of next week, look for some more dirt. This birth certificate thing may be a part of that.

I don't think the Clinton's are done yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they have more dirt about Trinity or some other radical connection.

re: #29 jcm

No, no, no! BLASPHEMY!
He's a commie love child!

re: #28 zombie

Yeah, I normally run, but I can't take it in this smoke.
Treadmill indoors only.

re: #27 FlakMusic

SCOTUS will deliver it's decision on the Heller case on Weds. From what little I've read about the arguments, it sounds like Kennedy will come down on the right side of this one.

Anyone have a read on what's likely to happen?

My read is the DC Ban is struck down, the right to keep and bear arms will be affirmed as an individual right. However what will not be addressed is the definition of "reasonable restriction" striking the DC ban will mean blanket bans are out. So IL, NY and other restrictive state will have to modify there laws. Concealed carry, and "assault weapons" will not be addressed.

My reading of the tea leaves only.

re: #14 Salem Well, of course there is that practical aspect of it.
But - if ya don't mind - I'd like to elaborate on your first sentence: "Well, we know more about Evolution than Obama does, and we know more about Evolution than we do about Obama himself."
Hope you don't mind!

pro-zombie = those who love that great movie where a man wrapped up in bandages with his arms spread out walks around aimlessly

re: #30 So?

Dirty minds.

re: #33 realwest

LOL!

Not betting. I think you (and Pat) are right - the birth certificate thing is an intentional distraction. I still see Hillary playing one last MAJOR card unless she is named VP.

re: #41 So?

That's worthy of a sign?

re: #37 wolfie

No, no, no! BLASPHEMY!
He's a commie love child!

Love Child!

re: #30 So?

Where do thoughts come from?

Chemical reactions between brain cell synapses?

re: #17 Racer X

My theory is Hillary wants the VP slot, and if Barry fails to name her by the end of next week, look for some more dirt. This birth certificate thing may be a part of that.

I think her openness for VP was just a clever play to help maintain some resentment from her supporters when he passes her over. My money is on the Clintons providing an October surprise to sabotage Obama. You certainly didn't see them trying to help Kerry out so this cycle would be clear for her, and I don't think there's enough room in the White House for Clinton's and Obama's collective egos...

I just watched the TiVo of that baby borrower show on Fox. It was pretty well done. They take overweight 18 yr old girls who want a baby and their timid boyfriends who don't know what the Hell they want and give them infants for 3 days.

This ought to be required of every teenager in America

condom sales would skyrocket.

re: #19 jcm Well, iirc, LGFer Pat lives in Hawaii and has said that it may well be a forgery too; but I've also read that the Hawaiian department which maintains birth records won't give them out to anyone - even with a FOIA request - except to the person so born in said certificate.
I still think it's bullshit just to pull us off the scent of much more likely and probably skullduggery at Obama's place.

re: #35 AZfederalist

OK, I'm lost. What exactly (aside from your works) could someone possibly mean by being "Pro-zombie"?

/that he votes is quite frightening in itself

Click on the link provided in the caption to get the full context of the original photo.

He's a fan of movie-style zombies, apparently.

re: #47 Millertime33

Regardless of who is pulling Obama's ropes (they're too obvious and thick to be strings), there is no way he is going to pick Hillary as VP. Even he is not *that* stupid -- he knows she wants the #1 spot and will do whatever is necessary to get there. I sure wouldn't want to be the owner of the one heartbeat that would stand between her and the presidency -- I can't imagine BHO would either.

re: #48 Shug

I just watched the TiVo of that baby borrower show on Fox. It was pretty well done. They take overweight 18 yr old girls who want a baby and their timid boyfriends who don't know what the Hell they want and give them infants for 3 days.

This ought to be required of every teenager in America

condom sales would skyrocket.

I'll give 'em mine ( / ) boys 3 and 4 very active, and an 18 month old girl. That'll cure 'em.

Tonight's musical interlude: the next stage of evolution!

We Are the Robots

/I dig Ralf und Florian

re: #47 Millertime33

I agree. I don't see either one of them being that interested in the so-called "dream ticket."

I find it surprising that no Hawaiian has posted their Certificate of Birth to help us all do a comparison. C'mon Hawaiians, help us out!

re: #49 realwest

Well, iirc, LGFer Pat lives in Hawaii and has said that it may well be a forgery too; but I've also read that the Hawaiian department which maintains birth records won't give them out to anyone - even with a FOIA request - except to the person so born in said certificate.
I still think it's bullshit just to pull us off the scent of much more likely and probably skullduggery at Obama's place.

Since natural born citizenship is a Constitutional requirement. What are the checks in place to verify that aspect of a candidates eligibility?

I have no clue on that one.

re: #48 Shug

I don't have a TV. I have never heard of this show that you mention.

Why the necessity for the 18 y.o. girls to be overweight? Or was that just an inadvertent reflection of the overall obesity problem in the states?

re: #50 zombie

OK, that is just plain weird.

re: #48 Shug

[baby borrower] ought to be required of every teenager in America

Oh yeah, puts sex in a whole different perspective.

re: #41 So?

pro-zombie = those who love that great movie where a man wrapped up in bandages with his arms spread out walks around aimlessly

No, that's The Mummy, not zombie.

Mummies are from Egypt. Zombies are from Haiti.

Big difference!

Also, mummies has bandages -- zombie just regular clothes.

Got to keep our movie monsters straight!

re: #56 jcm

Since natural born citizenship is a Constitutional requirement. What are the checks in place to verify that aspect of a candidates eligibility?

I have no clue on that one.

That's what is quite confusing about this. It would seem that somewhere: in his run for Illinois state, or federal office, BHO would have had to provide a copy of his Birth Certificate to validate his qualifications to run. That application should be public record.

hi all--what do you all think the october surprise will be? what could be lurking in obamas closet?

re: #59 buddyg

Oh yeah, puts sex in a whole different perspective.

Yeah, sex ed talks about STDs etc... not much about the 24/7/364, 18 year duty that comes along.

re: #39 jcm
I hope you're right, but my "guess" is that SCOTUS will rule on this very, very narrowly and simply rule on the D.C. ordinance and NOT go to the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right.
SCOTUS had one other case similar to this one, oh probably 60 years or so ago and iirc from my Constitutonal Law class that case too ruled very strictly on the issue of the law or regulation at hand, not an all out affirmation of the individual's right to keep and bear arms.

re: #57 Syrah

they all seemed chubby. just an observation.

re: #63 jcm

So, how do you manage one day off?

re: #56 jcm

Since natural born citizenship is a Constitutional requirement. What are the checks in place to verify that aspect of a candidates eligibility?

I have no clue on that one.

I'm sure the MSM will investigate and report shortly...

re: #63 jcm

Yeah, sex ed talks about STDs etc... not much about the 24/7/364, 18 year duty that comes along.

You ain't lived 'til ya been pis*sed on, sh*t on, and puked on all in the same day.

re: #46 jcm

Chemical reactions between brain cell synapses?

Those are only chemical reactions, they do produce thinking.
Ask any neurologist. They do not know what causes thinking or awareness.

re: #63 jcm

Yeah, sex ed talks about STDs etc... not much about the 24/7/364, 18 year duty that comes along.

You get off easy with AIDS

/ currently living with a colicky 5 week old

re: #62 mikeymom

hi all--what do you all think the october surprise will be? what could be lurking in obamas closet?

The October Surprise will be my "Obama Rumor" page. It will contain ALL the skeletons in his closet. No escape.

/Mummies, zombies, skeletons -- what next, vampires?

re: #71 zombie

/Mummies, zombies, skeletons -- what next, vampires?

NO! We will not discuss Britney Spears on this blog!

re: #60 zombie

No, that's The Mummy, not zombie.

Mummies are from Egypt. Zombies are from Haiti.

Big difference!

Also, mummies has bandages -- zombie just regular clothes.

Got to keep our movie monsters straight!

My apologies, it was The Mummy. Scared me as a child.

re: #70 Shug

hate to say imy youngest had colic for 9 months

re: #61 AZfederalist

That's what is quite confusing about this. It would seem that somewhere: in his run for Illinois state, or federal office, BHO would have had to provide a copy of his Birth Certificate to validate his qualifications to run. That application should be public record.

Most State leg positions don't require natural born citizenship, only POTUS. Even the chair of JCS doesn't have that requirement, Gen. John M. Shalikashvil was Polish born IIRC.

re: #65 Shug

Ah. . .

_{Sometimes I think that my not having a TV leaves me a bit "disconnected" from popular cultural references.}

re: #71 zombie

ohhhh you tease!cant wait!

"My Mummy was a Zombie" would make for a great new hollywood classic.

re: #40 realwest

Well, of course there is that practical aspect of it.
But - if ya don't mind - I'd like to elaborate on your first sentence: "Well, we know more about Evolution than Obama does, and we know more about Evolution than we do about Obama himself."
Hope you don't mind!

Well, hopefully we're learning more about both here. :D

re: #62 mikeymom

hi all--what do you all think the october surprise will be? what could be lurking in obamas closet?

Gay lover?
Dead bodies?
Fake citizenship?

I don't think the left will mind any of these things - they will still vote for him.

Now if he sprouts wings and flies back to his home planet.....

re: #64 realwest

If the outcome is anything less than a complete overturning of the current DC law (handgun ban) then the momentum will continue in to the next administration, and I think we will see more banning of many types of firearms.

So, get 'em while ye may.

re: #66 AZfederalist

So, how do you manage one day off?

Day off? What's that? 3 year old just woke up is snuggling with me on the couch.

re: #75 jcm

I understand that natural born is not a requirement for some offices, but there are certain age requirements, seems like that would require some proof of age.

re: #70 Shug

You get off easy with AIDS

/ currently living with a colicky 5 week old

Our colicky one like lying face down on a forearm head snuggled in the crook of the arm, and the back being slowly patted.

I wonder what Charles will have to say tomorrow in response to the American Thinker piece. My guess is that his citizenship isn't in question but that he's a bastard and/or the first name on the real birth certificate is Barry. And subjecting the offered record of his birth to the highest scrutiny doesn't take away from investigating every other facet of his life.

re: #83 AZfederalist

I understand that natural born is not a requirement for some offices, but there are certain age requirements, seems like that would require some proof of age.

Tis' a head scratcher, one we the citizens have a right to know.

re: #82 jcm

Check your original posting: "24/7/364"

What did you do with #365?

re: #82 jcm

awwww ill take over if ya want--( im dying to be a grandma(

re: #75 jcm

Not sure about his birthplace, but "Shalikashvili" is Georgian.

re: #43 Racer X Well I haven't yet ruled out Hillary as the Dem POTUS nominee - really. I could plead her case pretty well:
a) she has won more of the popular vote than has Obama (albeit by a slight margin);
b) she has won more "heavy" electoral states (California, New York, New Jersey, Texas, Florida, Ohio and Michigan [it wasn't her fault that Obama didn't even bother to put his name on the Michigan ballot] than has Obama; and
c) she'd be more electable in the general election than would Obama who is already pissing off his base by trying to move to the center.
I woulnd't count Hillary out just yet; saw her on TV when she walked back into the US Senate and the Senate Dem's gave her two standing ovations for just showing up and she fairly pointedly ignored Dodd and Kerry.

re: #78 So?

"My Mummy was a Zombie" would make for a great new hollywood classic.

LOL!

I think they could also create a combo zombie-mummy: a real Haitian zombie gets transported to Egypt, gets buried while in a state of zombiehood, but wrapped in bandages like a Pharaonic corpse, and then emerges centuries later from the tomb to wreak havoc -- a zombie mummy!

Apes Deserve Human Rights, Spanish Leaders Say
Thank God for that. Now, if they can just get their little paws on a computer, they can add to the "debate" here. "This is a historic day in the struggle for animal rights and in defense of our evolutionary comrades, which will doubtless go down in the history of humanity..."

I can't tell you how funny this is to me in so many ways.

Night.

re: #61 AZfederalist

Pretty sure he'd need it for his passport, too. I did.

re: #90 realwest

The fun is not over yet.

Denver '08!

hey real-how did your drs visit go? did you kick butt?

re: #92 rightwingva

Apes Deserve Human Rights, Spanish Leaders Say
Thank God for that. Now, if they can just get their little paws on a computer, they can add to the "debate" here. "This is a historic day in the struggle for animal rights and in defense of our evolutionary comrades, which will doubtless go down in the history of humanity..."

I can't tell you how funny this is to me in so many ways.

Night.

This could be a big advance. Think of all the new Shakespearean plays that will get written by all those newly emancipated chimps pounding away at their typewriters!

re: #69 So?

Those are only chemical reactions, they do produce thinking.
Ask any neurologist. They do not know what causes thinking or awareness.

Okay, I am pulling your chain a bit on that one.

I a pretty fundamentalist Christian. But I also have a B.S. in Bio-Chem, lots of biology, chemistry and genetics.

I repost what I've said in the past.

In all this and long prior to all the discussions here. I came to a few conclusions.

1) I believe the Bible is the Word of God, accurate and internally consistent as a spiritual text.

2) The physical evidence that science discovers, is what it is.

3) If my spiritual beliefs, and scriptures are what I believe them to be. Then God would not falsify, or place misleading material in nature.

That leaves only one place to go. That when there appears to be a disconnect with scripture and science. It is not scripture that needs to be questioned, or the science either. But our human interpretations of scripture and evidence. We get so wrapped up in OUR interpretations, that we cease to seek God and the truth.

re: #87 AZfederalist

Check your original posting: "24/7/364"

What did you do with #365?

The beer, I'll blame the beer. I had a beer after the kids went down, being a lite weight I've got a buzz on.

re: #92 rightwingva

Apes Deserve Human Rights, Spanish Leaders Say
Thank God for that. Now, if they can just get their little paws on a computer, they can add to the "debate" here. "This is a historic day in the struggle for animal rights and in defense of our evolutionary comrades, which will doubtless go down in the history of humanity..."

I can't tell you how funny this is to me in so many ways.

I'm not quite sure they've thought this all the way through.

If apres really are to receive full human rights, then they should be allowed to get married to humans...to vote in Spanish elections...to get unemployment benefits...to serve on juries...etc.

Spain will suddenly become the most interesting country in the world!

re: #97 jcm

when there appears to be a disconnect with scripture and science. It is not scripture that needs to be questioned, or the science either.

It's just proof that God has a sense of humor, after all.

apres = apes

I should hire one of those chimps as a proofreader.

re: #91 zombie

LOL!

I think they could also create a combo zombie-mummy: a real Haitian zombie gets transported to Egypt, gets buried while in a state of zombiehood, but wrapped in bandages like a Pharaonic corpse, and then emerges centuries later from the tomb to wreak havoc -- a zombie mummy!

Let's call Speilberg! I got him on the phone...you do the pitch.

re: #89 victor_yugo
Hey now, y'all have to be kidding me, no way that young boy is from Georgia! Nope, no way no how!
;')'

re: #99 zombie

Best of all the Spaniards can replace Zapatero with an ape, which would be a considerable improvement!

re: #99 zombie

then they should be allowed to get married to humans...to vote in Spanish elections...to get unemployment benefits...to serve on juries...etc.

Given their recent elections, how do we know the apes aren't already voting?

re: #92 rightwingva

Apes Deserve Human Rights, Spanish Leaders Say

But nothing about cattle.

If they're trying to prove to me that they are leaving their cruel ways behind, they're failing miserably.

re: #102 So?

Let's call Speilberg! I got him on the phone...you do the pitch.

Does he climb the Great Pyramid of Giza and try to swat helicopters?

re: #99 zombie

I'm not quite sure they've thought this all the way through.

If apres really are to receive full human rights, then they should be allowed to get married to humans...to vote in Spanish elections...to get unemployment benefits...to serve on juries...etc.

Spain will suddenly become the most interesting country in the world!

Apes vs. our current congress.....

Let me think......

Didn't some city in Brazil elect a pig as mayor several years ago?

I think this calls for:

I Wanna Be Like You -- Jungle Book

Dig it!

re: #109 wolfie

Didn't some city in Brazil elect a pig as mayor several years ago?

which only goes to show most politicians are oink oink

re: #95 mikeymom
Hey hi {mikeymom} - nope didn't have to; either I misunderstood him or he didn't make himself clear but we are both on the same page now and that's a very good thing indeed!
Thanks for asking !(wonders at the ability of mikemom to remember little things like that!).

re: #104 wolfie

Best of all the Spaniards can replace Zapatero with an ape, which would be a considerable improvement!

I just thought of something.

"Zapatero" means "cobbler."

Does that mean Spain is being led by the Manolo?

re: #110 zombie

I think this calls for:

I Wanna Be Like You -- Jungle Book

Dig it!

I think we descended from Louis Prima singing apes.

File in the let's not do this again file.

Man throws flare in mole hole, ignites neighbor's house

VANCOUVER, Wash. - Paging groundskeeper Carl -- don’t try road flares to kill the varmints.

That’s what Vancouver Fire crews said lit up a single-wide trailer Monday at the Vancouver Mobile Terrace on E. Fourth Plain.

According to spokesman Jim Flaherty, a neighbor was trying to drop a flare down a mole hole when it ignited 91-year-old Irma Childers’ home.

Flames crept up through the metal skirting and the wall of the 1968 structure, and neighbors were able to control the fire until crews arrived.

The parks’ manager was also able to get inside and lead Childers to safety, crews said. She was unhurt.

“Without a doubt, in my 26 years it was pretty unique,” Flaherty said.

Crews were able to knock down the fire in about 20 minutes and prevent it from spreading to three nearby units.

There was no word on if the mole was harmed.

I wonder what pigs call pork.
I mean duly elected pigs buying votes.

Someday, man will develop the technology to evolve instantly! You're swept away by a flood--you develop gills and fins. You don't have anything exciting to do before that motley Cue concert next month?--hibernate like a bear. Can't afford to be passed up for that promotion?--turn into a ravenous velociraptor and maul that good-for-nothing pasty-faced toady Jerry who you just know is someone's relative. And just what the hell does he do in the copy-room all that time, anyway? Mewling cur! *CHOMP*

It'll be like one of those appalling Anime cartoons that the kids seem to like so much.

re: #113 victor_yugo

I just thought of something.

"Zapatero" means "cobbler."

Does that mean Spain is being led by the Manolo?

If only !

re: #116 wolfie

I wonder what pigs call pork.
I mean duly elected pigs buying votes.

If this were the 60s I'd say ask your local cops.

re: #115 jcm
a) thank the Lord it wasn't a double-wide and
b) guarntee the mole wasn't harmed at all!

re: #112 realwest

well, i was on yesterday when you were leaving to go to drs--i can remember stuff for 1 day--lol--glad you got things worked out--we need you around here ya know--hugs-

re: #114 So?

I think we descended from Louis Prima singing apes.

I know Louies' kids.

Considering the Heller decision tomorrow.

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
James Madison

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States"
Noah Webster

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." Richard Henry Lee

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry

LIFE
LIBERTY
PROPERTY

Good night lizards.

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep right now!
Hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Goodnight all.

re: #123 jcm

I'm keeping mine. And maybe getting more.
Period.

hey real--i also remember a while back you asking about type 2 diabetes--did you get info?

What the hell is wrong with San Franciscso ?

[Link: www.iht.com...]

re: #99 zombie

Must be a Spanish attempt to make apes and pigs equal to Muslims.

re: #127 buddyg

What the hell is wrong with San Francisco?

Asked and answered.

re: #127 buddyg

What the hell is wrong with San Franciscso ?

[Link: www.iht.com...]

That's just a stupid stunt that for some reason is getting international coverage. Stuff like that happens five or six times a day around here. Not sure what caused this particular bit of stupidity to get all the attention.

re: #130 zombie

I guess it's just fun to make fun of the left coast.

re: #19 jcm

I guess I back in the agnostic camp on BHO birth. How hard is it to get a FOIA on a birth record in Honolulu?

maybe that depends on how long it takes to doctor the records?

not buying the story, per se, 'm just sayin...... %-)

re: #123 jcm

I think that Justice Senile has been fed too many candies by Justice Ginsbat. They will destroy this Constitutional promise like they did the 1, 5, 10, 11 Amendments. Nazi Germany knows best according to Breyer.

re: #120 realwest

a) thank the Lord it wasn't a double-wide and
b) guarntee the mole wasn't harmed at all!

Hey realwest how are you tonight?

The Left are eating their own!

This thread is simply delicious!

McCain humor :

re: #60 zombie

No, that's The Mummy, not zombie.

Mummies are from Egypt. Zombies are from Haiti.

Big difference!

Also, mummies has bandages -- zombie just regular clothes.

Got to keep our movie monsters straight!

yes, but since zombies live on brains, you couldn't possibly survive in the Bay Area...... there isn't enough forage for you to live on.

/white smoke %-)

re: #131 buddyg

I guess it's just fun to make fun of the left coast.

Is not!

Hey, Zombie, 2 of the tree sitters just came down. Wonder if it was Dumpster Muffin.

re: #135 buddyg

That was funny!

hubby and i visited san fran 30 yrs ago--he was on a biz trip--i trailed along--we were amazed at the beauty of the city and the friendliness of the people- while he was in meetings all day, i went sightseeing by myself--got lost a few times and was not afraid to ask for help--(as opposed to nyc where we lived near at the time)--i know times have changed--glad we saw it when we did-

re: #138 Typicalwhitey

Thanks, I thought it was funny too. Although I never did like Madonna.

OK, I really have to go to bed, but I am going to leave you with one image of the world's biggest ass .

Does that translate as "Vote for Obama or Die!"? Does that mean that if I don't vote for Obamassiah, I die? Or if a certain group doesn't vote for Obama, they will die? Every day that I think to myself 'I am not voting for McCain', the Left gives me one more reason to go into the booth and pull the R lever.

It's time to sleep. G'nite everyone.

[Link: img.dailymail.co.uk...]

re: #69 So?

Those are only chemical reactions, they do produce thinking.
Ask any neurologist. They do not know what causes thinking or awareness.

try thinking without them

/not arguing, i'm jes sayin..... %-)

re: #135 buddyg

McCain humor :

[Link: youtube.com...]

Hillarious!

re: #55 Meremortal

I find it surprising that no Hawaiian has posted their Certificate of Birth to help us all do a comparison. C'mon Hawaiians, help us out!

"How about a nice Hawaiian Punch?"

Blargh! What's the hallowed halls of our scaly reptiallian inner sanctum doing displaying a banner ad featuring AL GORE!?!?

I'll need to dig up last year's Bettie Paige claendar to try and bleach away the image of that smug, self-righteous charlatan from......DAMN IT!

YAAARGH!

/Howard Dean

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

It's a lovely sunny ,cool winter's afternoon here in Sydney - summer is only 5 months away!

Here's a story from our north

A crocodile walked into a bar.......

A CROC walked into a Territory pub for a quiet Sunday eve brew.

Gallery: Crazy crocs doing their thing.

And the male saltie nearly made it to the bar too -- but was bailed up by three punters in the car park of the tavern in Darwin's rural area last Sunday night.

The Territory's most feared icon was then wrestled in to Noonamah Tavern for a couple of happy snaps with the locals and tourists.

Noonamah Tavern barmaid Sarah Sparre, 22, said the toothy visitor was a momentary diversion from general beer swilling.

"It's not every day you see something like that,'' she said.

The 60cm beast (pictured above on the bar) was then subdued and the authorities called.

"The blokes taped the mouth up and put it in a chips box - it was put on the ground in the corner,'' Ms Sparre said.

By the time Parks and Wildlife came an half hour later, the locals were back to the business at hand -- wetting the whiskers

It's a little cutie too

re: #62 mikeymom

hi all--what do you all think the october surprise will be? what could be lurking in obamas closet?

- His old Communist Party membership card
- A picture of Michelle screaming and burning an American flag

Heck with it, he could get up on stage and shoot a puppy for sport and it would be excused somehow. I don't think it's possible for this guy to be any more of a revolting Marxist than he already is, and people are falling all over themselves for the chance to touch his robes.

re: #92 rightwingva

Apes Deserve Human Rights, Spanish Leaders Say

Must be a translation problem, surely apes deserve ape rights.

re: #99 zombie

I'm not quite sure they've thought this all the way through.

If apres really are to receive full human rights, then they should be allowed to get married to humans...to vote in Spanish elections...to get unemployment benefits...to serve on juries...etc.

Spain will suddenly become the most interesting country in the world!

If we can't even learn from that last Planet of the Apes movie, then what hope do we have?

Well, you know, not the most recent one, the Tim Burton one, the one before with all the apes wearing jump-suits, and people keep them as pets, or slave labor, or whatever because all the cats and dogs died in a plague and, I don't think Charlton Heston was in it... Hmmm. Well, long story short-- the apes get smart and rise up and-...

Come to think of it, that's the one most people skipped, I mean the premise had really played out by that point, am I wrong? Even the first sequel with uber-ham James Fransiscus was kind of a stretch. Pizza-faced mutants singing to an atom bomb? I mean, why were they wearing those masks in the first place? In case guests dropped by the frikking Forbidden Zone? And then there was the one with that Fantasy Island guy. A couple of the apes swiped James Fransiscuses rocket and flew back to present-day earth. They probably offered to have Heston go along for the ride, keep the franchise going you know, but Chuck said "Heck no! I'm gonna get shot up and then I'm gonna trigger a goddamn nuke, got it? Nothing left of me for another sequel I don't know how I'll ever live down this movie! Damn you studio-munchkins to HELL!"

So, anyway, if they couldn't have made that movie better--not the Forbidden Zone/bomb choir one, the one alluded to earlier with the ape uprising--so that we all would have learned from it, and averted an ape apocalypse, what hope do we have, really?

So shoot Spain with a humongous clue-ray, is what I'm trying to say...

re: #99 zombie

I'm not quite sure they've thought this all the way through.

If apres really are to receive full human rights, then they should be allowed to get married to humans...to vote in Spanish elections...to get unemployment benefits...to serve on juries...etc.

Spain will suddenly become the most interesting country in the world!

my first guess is that some Spaniard thought this might be a good lever to use against the British & their insistence on holding on to Gibraltar...Rock Apes and all.... %-)

I just happened across some sort of overnight show on the Comedy Channel where they tried to make John McCain look like a doddering madman close to death.

Soros?

Anyone here watch Jay Leno? Every single monologue, every night, the same jokes about McCain's age, Bush's intelligence, and praise for Obama. I used to like Leno, but this is just getting ridiculous. Why doesn't he just tell the viewers how he really feels. It's so annoying, I might actually stop watching. It just sucks that you can't watch anything good these days without getting some kind of propaganda.

Nobody will expect the Spanish Monkey Inquisition!

Okay, I think that's enough pop-culture references for one night...

re: #153 PloniAlmoni

Anyone here watch Jay Leno? Every single monologue, every night, the same jokes about McCain's age, Bush's intelligence, and praise for Obama. I used to like Leno, but this is just getting ridiculous. Why doesn't he just tell the viewers how he really feels. It's so annoying, I might actually stop watching. It just sucks that you can't watch anything good these days without getting some kind of propaganda.

It gets very tiresome.

Going to the movie theater offers no escape.

Zombie, if you're still around, I responded to a part of your Cold War analysis, back in the Overnight Open / Feynman Quote thread. I'll paste it in my next comment, as this referential text would push it over the limit.

As promised:

re: #330 zombie

Reagan did not singlehandedly bring down the Soviet Union either. It was a cumulative effort over many presidencies.

This particular revision is quite popular among academics. Like the de facto abolition of Lincoln's Birthday and Washington's Birthday in favor of the queasy "Presidents' Day", this historical quarter-truth serves only to erase the distinction between great Presidents and horrible ones, between accomplishment and appeasement.
To be sure, there was a steady pressure maintained a la George Kennan, but containment is not a winner. It's a holding action. Containment exerts as much pressure on the vessel as on the substance, if you don't mind a clumsy metaphor. We had Presidents who gave ground and took ground, sometimes in the same Presidency, and I certainly don't expect anybody to be perfect--even a President. But more credit is due the irresistible energy of our Republican form of government and our Capitalist system of economics than is due to the average president until 1976. Those winning systems are where most of the real pressure came from.
Cumulative, it was not, however. Not in the balance, as we needed to pay even more than the Soviets did for ostensibly comparable military and associated systems, because of our relatively low tolerance for loss. A Soviet system mostly needed to work. An American system needed to work, to assure public safety, and to bring its crew home safely in equal measure. So we could build anything they could, but for a vastly increased cost.
Recall that the Soviets were seen as roughly on par with us going into the Carter administration, and while fears of a "Missile Gap" were more than the actual gap warranted, the Soviets had established a manned space station as early as 1971, had far more submarines and ships than we did, some of which were startlingly powerful (Kirov, Slava, and any of the -12 or -19 shooter subs). The Soviets had an incredible amount of conventional air and ground force poised to bash through the Fulda gap and lay waste to Western Europe in a way that the immense Soviet Union was largely immune to due to simple geography. We had the harder and more expensive job of defense, and much of the technological advantage in military systems which we now take as a given was on the drawing boards at the time.
Enter President Carter, who felt that the morally correct answer was to live and let live, that the privations and depredations of Communism were no worse than freedoms and potential of a Republic. He not only believed that we could not win, he felt that we *should not* win.
And so he pared the military, abandoned our allies, and gave away our nuclear parity to reduce the "instability" of a roughly even match (as usual for men who prefer stability to freedom). President Carter had attempted to settle for a tie in a win-or-lose contest. His preferred method of bringing about peace was to ensure that we could not win and therefore would not fight.
Whatever cumulative effects might have accrued were squandered by the Carter administration. His four years saw allied governments fall to Communists and Islamists, and in the case of Afghanistan, a merely unfriendly government was knocked over (in the name of shoring it up, of course) by our increasingly ascendant adversary. Everywhere you looked, the world had gone either from good to bad or from bad to worse.
Detente was dead, replaced by Soviet expansion. Containment was also dead. We were losing the Cold War, and with the stagflation produced by dubious collectivist economic theories of stewardship (dating back to LBJ in particular, and FDR in general, and revived with a tinker's interest by the Carter Admin), we were losing the economic power which was the only thing that might reverse the otherwise disastrous trend.
With 200 chars left, I'll simply point out that we had no cumulative advantage by 1980--we were screwed. President Reagan and Pope John Paul II brought down the Soviet Union.

re: #152 really grumpy big dog Johnson

re: #153 PloniAlmoni

re: #156 Syrah

Television is a medium because it is neither rare, nor well done.

Ernie Kovacs
(more or less %-)

re: #4 DistantThunder

Liberals have fried their brains - all that's left are feelings, and impulses, and fears.

Number one problem with leftists and certain Democrat politicians: Poor Impulse Control

re: #149 itellu3times

Must be a translation problem, surely apes deserve ape rights.

Spanish leadership needs a good right to the jaw...

(I can hear the leftards now- "Those knuckle draggers on LGF only think of violence."

Not true.

But it buys some time until something better comes to mind.)

re: #160 markie

Number one problem with leftists and certain Democrat politicians: Poor Impulse Control

but they believe in Impulse Power.

re: #149 itellu3times

Must be a translation problem, surely apes deserve ape rights.

Naw. Same as our implacable enemies deserving citizens' rights. If non-citizens are to be afforded the protections of the Constitution and the laws thereunder, shall they not also be subject to the same restrictions and responsibilities?

Should terrorists be required to register for Selective Service? What about taxes?

The question before the government of Spain is structurally the same as the one our Supreme Court just got dreadfully wrong. Will they charge apes with assault and incarcerate them after lengthy trials?

re: #161 markie

Spanish leadership needs a good right to the jaw...

(I can hear the leftards now- "Those knuckle draggers on LGF only think of violence."

Not true.

But it buys some time until something better comes to mind.)

"There is no problem that can't be resolved by a suitable application of high explosives."

Murphy's Laws of Combat Operations, Vol. I

re: #164 redc1c4

"There is no problem that can't be resolved by a suitable application of high explosives."

Murphy's Laws of Combat Operations, Vol. I

But don't forget Plan B doesn't automatically mean twice as much explosive as Plan A. :)

re: #160 markie

Number one problem with leftists and certain Democrat politicians: Poor Impulse Control

Sounds like someone's been reading Snowcrash.

re: #165 BlueCanuck

But don't forget Plan B doesn't automatically mean twice as much explosive as Plan A. :)

It doesn't?

Rats.

Red - how are things? I've been busy and away (not at the same time).

Spent the weekend at Faria Beach & at the Santa Barbara Solstice Parade.

Beach pics are at the link, haven't sorted through all of the Solstice Parade pics, yet.

re: #157 MajorPribluda

Zombie, if you're still around, I responded to a part of your Cold War analysis, back in the Overnight Open / Feynman Quote thread. I'll paste it in my next comment, as this referential text would push it over the limit.

Actually, yes, I did see it the first time.

While I agree Carter was a disaster, a lot of Presidents -- particularly Truman, Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan -- did contribute to the Soviet Union's downfall. We did have a cumulative advantage by 1980 -- it just wasn't apparent on the surface. The Soviets had spent so much of their declining GDP to keep military parity with us that their collapse was already on the horizon -- though we did not yet know it. I don't think we were losing the Cold War in 1980 at all. Carter had just squandered some of our advantage.

I'm not trying to argue for Carter and against Reagan, only saying that Reagan merely finished the Soviets off -- he didn't do it all by himself. He stood on the shoulders of giants. By the time Reagan took office, I think the Soviet Union was already an unsustainable system, and with a little extra pressure (which Reagan supplied), they'd implode.

Also, Carter was not entirely responsible for our economic woes in the late '70s. Yes, his policies exacerbated the situation, but it was already starting to turn sour during the Ford administration: Carter inherited a problem, and then made it worse. (Similar to how Hoover did not cause the Stock Market Crash in 1929, but his response to it only accelerated the Depression.)

This discussion probably will continue on through the decades. No way to resolve it here. And I know well that the academics will do anything to bash Reagan and prop up the reputations of Democrats if they can. I'm just trying to be completely impartial.

re: #159 redc1c4

That's a good quote.

And now Dana Carvey on Leno: "McCain looks like an albino monkey. Obama is such a great speaker." -- Can you feel the ass kissing?

re: #60 zombie

Got to keep our movie monsters straight!

Homophobe!

re: #170 PloniAlmoni

That's a good quote.

And now Dana Carvey on Leno: "McCain looks like an albino monkey. Obama is such a great speaker." -- Can you feel the ass kissing?

Apparently some people haven't been paying attention, or they have the blinders on.

re: #165 BlueCanuck

But don't forget Plan B doesn't automatically mean twice as much explosive as Plan A. :)

i'm pretty sure it means the square of .......

(or is it the cube?..... %-)"

re: #170 PloniAlmoni

That's a good quote.

And now Dana Carvey on Leno: "McCain looks like an albino monkey. Obama is such a great speaker." -- Can you feel the ass kissing?

if i wanted a "great speaker" i'd contact Bose.

re: #169 zombie

I'm just trying to be completely impartial.

Good Heavens! Why on Earth?

re: #175 MajorPribluda

Good Heavens! Why on Earth?

staying in character?

/white smoke, as it were.....

re: #176 redc1c4

well, that's the first time i've killed a thread in awhile, so i guess i'll just modify tonights fruit cup and go play Ateroids for awhile....

/CHANGE!

re: #177 redc1c4

of course you realize that I will dispose of the doctored samples once you leave?

/CHANGE of tactics.

//drink

re: #178 BlueCanuck

of course you realize that I will dispose of the doctored samples once you leave?

/CHANGE of tactics.

//drink

disposing of them by drinking.... it might make you more interesting.

we'll have to ask your SO for neutral input to graph the results though..... %-)

the word that covers what you think you found is"maskirovka "

"All warfare is confusion, but the US military practices it on a daily basis."

/white smoke

re: #179 redc1c4

the word that covers what you think you found is"maskirovka "

"All warfare is confusion, but the US military practices it on a daily basis."

/white smoke

Love that word, and the concept. And the Canadian army does the same thing as well. Unfortunately they spent most of their time practicing it on the troops.

re: #180 BlueCanuck

Love that word, and the concept. And the Canadian army does the same thing as well. Unfortunately they spent most of their time practicing it on the troops.

well, yes.... how else would be be inoculated against is for war time? we were *supposed* to think everything we were told was more or less bull shit and figure out what was going on from local intel.

i practice maskirovka on a daily basis IRL, in one form or another...... %-)

/"CHANGE!"

re: #170 PloniAlmoni

That's a good quote.

And now Dana Carvey on Leno: "McCain looks like an albino monkey. Obama is such a great speaker." -- Can you feel the ass kissing?

Imagine the hue and cry if someone compared Obama to a monkey.

Don Imus to the 10th power or something....

It's 5:25 p.m. in Korea, do you know where the North Korean Nuclear Declaration might be? Rice: North Korea declaration ‘developments‘ soon

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday she expected developments on North Korea‘s long-delayed nuclear declaration within hours, as she arrived in Japan to attend a meeting of foreign ministers from the Group of Eight industrialized nations.

This is one person not holding their breath, in fact, given a number of events over the last few weeks my money is on, 'June Foo! ha-ha-ha'

re: #183 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

From your link:

The White House will also notify Congress that it intends to remove North Korea from the U.S. list of nations that sponsor terrorism.
[snip]
Bush on Wednesday called Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda and told the Japanese premier that he understands Tokyo‘s concern about Japanese citizens kidnapped by North Korea.

"I understand your concern. I'm not all that concerned, but I understand your concern."

re: #76 Syrah

Ah. . .

_{Sometimes I think that my not having a TV leaves me a bit "disconnected" from popular cultural references.}

And better off for it.

re: #184 MajorPribluda

Pretty frightening schtuff going on lately, we'd better be hoping the Supreme's aren't in one of their more recent jocular moods with the Heller decision - I'm very unsure if we could stand the joke = R--i--p!

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

meh.

Every day is Monday...

re: #187 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

saved me the trouble of having to fix AND dispense it too....

/danke!

phun times at the pharmacy today.

re: #188 littleoldlady

meh.

Every day is Monday...

or fryday the 13th....., which doesn't always fall on a fryday or the 13th.

/experience

re: #187 littleoldlady

Morning littleoldlady. Summer blahs?

re: #187 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Here I'm a minute late, you're a second early, and the buffet's now a swarming lizard feeding frenzy! What're you puttin' in that fruit cup, anyway?

{LOL}!

re: #189 redc1c4

red! :-)

Of all days...TODAY I could use the drugs! ;_)

BlueCanuck! :-)

My timing is off.

/story of my life, actually :-/

I pre-empted Red's product tampering by mixing some crappy vodka with a variety of fruit juices.....

It's working wonders *hic!*

Clemente! :-)

swarming lizard feeding frenzy

There's an image!

re: #193 littleoldlady

Well, having the timing off only counts if it's a really bad thing.

/like your car's engine. :)

Fenway! :-)

"When I drink wodka I womit"
_{© Dickie Smothers}

re: #195 littleoldlady

Clemente! :-)
swarming lizard feeding frenzy

There's an image!

Nah here's a lizard image

re: #196 BlueCanuck

Well, having the timing off only counts if it's a really bad thing.

/like your car's engine. :)

That would be bad.

/anything that costs me $$$ right now would be bad...

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

I pre-empted Red's product tampering by mixing some crappy vodka with a variety of fruit juices.....

It's working wonders *hic!*

Stay the heck outta mah head fridge!

re: #198 Neo Con since 9-11

Neo Con! :-)

Yup. That's me. Spinning my wheels...

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

I pre-empted Red's product tampering by mixing some crappy vodka with a variety of fruit juices.....

It's working wonders *hic!*

and here i always make sure i use the highest qwality adulterants.....

/Dilbert

Been rather slow in here the past few nights. I think every one is burning out over the ID and Nobama threads.

re: #203 BlueCanuck

Do you read those ID threads?

I think there's something seriously wrong with me. I don't care about that issue one bit.

re: #201 littleoldlady

Neo Con! :-)

Yup. That's me. Spinning my wheels...

but you are the Crown of Creation!

re: #203 BlueCanuck

Been rather slow in here the past few nights. I think every one is burning out over the ID and Nobama threads.

i had RL obligations, posted early and was in the rack NLT2400 Local last night.

did my thing, plus got boocoo shut eye: i'm good for another week of ridiculous hours and late night poasting.

/undoubtedly the rest of you will complain. %-)

re: #205 redc1c4

Nice! On the Smothers Brothers, too.

re: #204 littleoldlady

Do you read those ID threads?

I think there's something seriously wrong with me. I don't care about that issue one bit.

X2.

if there was intelligent design, pine needles would be psychoactive, and women would be understandable........

obviously, if there is an intelligence designing all this, it's female.

/white smoke (lots %-)

re: #187 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

G'day littleoldlady

Good to see you and how are you?

It's 7.30pm on Thursday evening and it's a cold winter night - but the days are lovely- sunny and warmish

re: #187 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Ummm... thanks... Indeed, with grain prices surging today I think I'll fill up my doggy bag....

re: #204 littleoldlady

A little, but I already have my mind made up and no need for some one to try and mess with it any more.

/army tried and failed, ex-wife tried and failed, ex-girlfriend tried and failed. :)

WOW. aussiemagpie! :-) :-) :-)

Long time no type to! How've you been?

re: #207 littleoldlady

Nice! On the Smothers Brothers, too.

Grace looks like she spent *too* much time by the pool, while Jorma & Jack blew the solo....you can see them all laughing about the awkward chords........

/60's!

freetoken! :-)

The trip to the supermarket is the scariest part of my day.

/ramen noodles is regression

re: #211 BlueCanuck

A little, but I already have my mind made up and no need for some one to try and mess with it any more.

/army tried and failed, ex-wife tried and failed, ex-girlfriend tried and failed. :)

you're single again?

/that was quick.

re: #214 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

The trip to the supermarket is the scariest part of my day.

/ramen noodles is regression

no: ramen noodles are sodium.

/nasty things: read the labels.

(used to eat them all the time, it's a plot i tell ya! %-)

re: #215 redc1c4

Not the current one, another one who really messed up.

re: #217 BlueCanuck

He's got a collection! ;-)

re: #204 littleoldlady

I think there's something seriously wrong with me. I don't care about that issue one bit.

There is nothing wrong with someone who serves me fresh blueberries w/kiwi and mandarins every morning!

On the ID threads... have you considered that this may be part of a long process already underway in American polity? That is, with an increasingly diverse and growing populace the older associations (that for example have given us political parties) are being forced to define themselves in ways that have to deal with some of the real philosophical differences that exist between groups.

For example, I see no easy truce between the ID activists and the libertarian activists, yet certain elements of our civic organizations and political groups (post-Nixon Republican party) have relied on those two groups rowing in the same direction and under the same banner.

re: #218 littleoldlady

No more then a man of my age. Actually less then some and a few more than others.

re: #218 littleoldlady

He's got a collection! ;-)

better him than me.....those get expensive.

i've got a keeper: it's much cheaper %-)

/damn lucky

re: #219 freetoken

I gave you blueberries?!

/I'm nicer than I thought...

I think that arguments like that have eroded the (already tenuous) cohesion of our society - for no good reason. And while the two party system leaves MUCH to be desired, the multi-party, single issue type of arrangement would be an honest-to-goodness nightmare.

re: #212 littleoldlady

WOW. aussiemagpie! :-) :-) :-)

Long time no type to! How've you been?

Hi darls

All's well here and I have a new computer now - the poor old one wouldn't let me get LGF sadly so I had a bit of a break

Oh dear, it's time for dinner so I'll see you all later!

Holy cow. That link about the thousands of Dutch citizens stocking up for the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 2, 2012 is just mind-boggling. Whenever a European (or Obama) speaks disdainfully and condescendingly of those ignorant, religion-clinging Americans, just point to that article.

One lady complains about immigration. "Progress!" you might think. But no, she's not worried about immigration because it's irrevocably changing Dutch culture for the worse. She's worried about immigration because it will make the country heavier, thus causing it to sink and be more prone to flooding. The denial is still firmly in place. In fact, this worldwide disaster will apparently be caused by global warming. "What global warming?" you might ask. Well, did you sweat the other day? Were you even a little bit uncomfortable? THAT global warming!

aussie,

Good to have you back! :-)

re: #223 aussiemagpie

Hi darls

All's well here and I have a new computer now - the poor old one wouldn't let me get LGF sadly so I had a bit of a break

well, if LoL likes you, weirdo fruit cup and all, you can't be all bad.....

besides, i've got a buddy who's Oz AF Ground Defense Forces.

my shout!

To Brash!

re: #225 Tigger2005

She's worried about immigration because it will make the country heavier, thus causing it to sink and be more prone to flooding.

Golly! I didn't think of that!

/that explains the problems we've been having on the Mississippi River...

Yer random Clemente pic...

re: #170 PloniAlmoni

That's a good quote.

And now Dana Carvey on Leno: "McCain looks like an albino monkey. Obama is such a great speaker." -- Can you feel the ass kissing?

And here I thought Dana Carvey had his head screwed on straight, although I've never actually listened to him when he's on with Dennis Miller.

Hollywood...it's brain death.

re: #228 littleoldlady

Golly! I didn't think of that!

/that explains the problems we've been having on the Mississippi River...

several *REALLY* tacky jokes occur to me, but i don't want to get deleted/banned......

red

/white smoke! %-)

re: #229 Clemente

Beautiful! Did you take that? Where?

re: #229 Clemente

Yer random Clemente pic...

I was expecting Roberto.

re: #232 littleoldlady

Beautiful! Did you take that? Where?

Thanks! Last August, Alaska. I couldn't tell you exactly where, though; I didn't keep a proper log. I could probably figure a close guess, but it's late...

re: #222 littleoldlady

I gave you blueberries?!

/I'm nicer than I thought...

Well, someone snuck them into your shopping basket when you weren't looking :-O

I think that arguments like that have eroded the (already tenuous) cohesion of our society - for no good reason. And while the two party system leaves MUCH to be desired, the multi-party, single issue type of arrangement would be an honest-to-goodness nightmare.

What I was trying to say, is that the underlying issues pre-existed the eruption of the topic on blogs (such as LGF). Part of the whole ID movement is still a reaction to the Scopes trial of many decades ago. That this issue is currently causing problems for the Republican party is part of a long simmering stew, not a recent development.

re: #230 Tigger2005

And here I thought Dana Carvey had his head screwed on straight, although I've never actually listened to him when he's on with Dennis Miller.

Hollywood...it's brain death.

i live in and around (but not with) them: they *are* brain dead.

The Dissident Frogman has an Obama campaign button I think you'll like.

:)

re: #236 redc1c4

They learn memory tricks to quickly memorize this take's dialogue, or (at most) this SCENE's dialogue...

...and they get to think they're thinking!

/well, they got paid BIG BUCKS for it, din't they?

re: #235 freetoken

Aha. It's no different with the Democrats. Factions, fractions.

Years ago I was at a local Dem meeting (I was a committeeperson. Actually, I still may be, but no way would I ever go to one of those meetings again) and a Quaker guy was allowed up on stage to give a long diatribe about the evils of Israel and how "we" should support the "poor Palestinians against the Israeli aggressors". Everyone was ignoring him, but you know, that position is going to insult somebody, and that somebody was me.

Now the internet certainly gives a platform to all people and all positions. For better or worse.

"Did I do that?"
_{© Steve Urkel}

Mornin' Lizards!

Good morning lizards. The day shift is punching in.

Any one waiting for the SCOTUS decision later on DC vs. Heller? Think Kennedy will screw another one up this session?

re: #242 opnion

Good morning lizards. The day shift is punching in.

Good morning to you. And I am so ready to punch out.

/hour and a half to go. ugh.
//at least it's weekend time.

There was just a columnist on Fox, from the Washington Examiner.
He is saying that with all of the cash coming into the Obama Campaign, they are about ready to unleash a campaign of 'Shock & Awe" against McCain.
I know McCain didains the 527's, but he is going to really need them to step up for him.

re: #245 opnion

Money - no doubt foreign money - will elect our President.

/wheeeeeeeeeeee. are we having fun yet?

re: #239 littleoldlady

Ignorance or quiet consent?

re: #246 littleoldlady

Money - no doubt foreign money - will elect our President.

/wheeeeeeeeeeee. are we having fun yet?

Yeah & you just have to wonder where all of that foreign mony is coming from. Let me think

re: #248 opnion

China. (:

re: #249 laZardo

China. (:

Probably some cash from China. I was thinking more of individuals of ambiguouis religion affiliation from Middle Eastrern nations.
Inshallah

WTF? North Korea has just submitted its nuclear declaration to China and Bush is already lifting sanctions and taking it off the list of state sponsors of terrorism?

re: #247 laZardo

Ignorance or quiet consent?

laZardo! :-)

What? Allowing him to speak? Not listening? My best guess is that most people there did not agree with him.

There's only two parties and they both have the same problem - they have to be a "big tent" and be inclusive. That means a lot of (what I might consider; you - maybe not ;-) fringe and/or radical elements are a part of the dialog.

re: #251 infidelia

China is their biggest benefactor in aid. North Korea going fully nuclear wouldn't just be bad for SK, it would also affect China and people wanting to invest in its still-expanding economy.

re: #252 littleoldlady

There's only two parties and they both have the same problem - they have to be a "big tent" and be inclusive. That means a lot of (what I might consider; you - maybe not ;-) fringe and/or radical elements are a part of monopolize the dialog.

fixed

re: #252 littleoldlady

How the hell are Quakers "fringe?" Compared to forest-dwelling survivalist neo-Nazis, anyway... >__>;;;

re: #255 laZardo

How the hell are Quakers "fringe?" Compared to forest-dwelling survivalist neo-Nazis, anyway... >__>;;;

See? I rest my case! ;-)

re: #253 laZardo

China is their biggest benefactor in aid. North Korea going fully nuclear wouldn't just be bad for SK, it would also affect China and people wanting to invest in its still-expanding economy.

Oh.

Groan....mornin.

re: #243 lone_wolf_in_illinois