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Video: Al Jazeera on Islamic Saudi Academy

Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:15:33 pm PDT

Al Jazeera aired this report a few days ago on the Islamic Saudi Academy in Fairfax, Virginia (whose textbooks were revealed to be teaching hatred of non-Muslims). It’s over the top grievance theater at its worst, as the reporter blames the controversy on certain “Congressmen” (nudge, wink) who are “hostile to Arabs and Muslims.” (Courtesy of MEMRI TV.)

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Following are excerpts from a report on the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on June 17, 2008:

Reporter: We are at the Islamic Saudi Academy in the state of Virginia – the largest institution teaching the Arabic language and Islamic education on the East Coast of the U.S. However, this institution faces mounting pressure, and this is a nightmare for the families of the students enrolled in the academy. This pressure is exerted by several Congressmen, known for their great hostility towards Arabs and Muslims.

This child recites verses from the Koran with perfect diction, even though he is only six years old. These flowers, which have just begun to bloom, have sprouted on American soil. Their parents decided to help them find their roots in a supervised environment. This goal has been achieved at the Islamic Saudi Academy. However, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, which was established by Congress, has recommended that the academy be shut down, alleging that its religious curricula, which are taught in Saudi Arabia as well, included material inciting to racism and intolerance towards other religions. [The commission] did not even talk to those in charge of the academy, let alone visit it.

Abd Al-Rahman Al-Ghufayli, Principal of the Boy’s School: We have nothing to hide. That’s why we invited them there and tried to discuss things with them, but I’m sad to say, they did not accept our invitation. This suggests that the commission has a certain agenda, which it is trying to implement.

Reporter: The local authority of Fairfax County, where the academy is located, has challenged the threats of closure. It determined that the allegations are invalid, and it approved the religious curricula after examining them. The non-Muslim teachers also expressed disgust and frustration at the allegations.

Kate Schneider, English teacher: The thing that frustrates me so much about these accusations is that first, they are not true, and second, it is so completely opposite from the truth. This school teaches faith, and the same basic values we want all our children to have.

Reporter: The academy’s students participate in community activities, which differ from other American schools. The U.S. President even sent letters of appreciation to the students.

Fardia Turkestani, Principal of the Girls’ School: We are very proud that a student of ours won this award three years in a row.

Reporter: “I will become the slave of he who teaches me a single letter.” So what should be said about those who teach an entire language? What should be said about a commission that some say is unconstitutional and contradicts the very meaning of its name? This commission calls upon all countries of the world to respect freedom of religion there, while the commission itself violates this freedom on its own land.

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1 Sizzlack  6/26/08 1:16:25 pm reply quote 1

Cue the crying baby picture...

2 rawmuse  6/26/08 1:17:42 pm reply quote 7

This is way more frightening than creationism, if you ask me. Creationists have not bombed anything, yet.

3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/26/08 1:18:56 pm reply quote 3
This pressure is exerted by several Congressmen, known for their great hostility towards Arabs and Muslims.

They havent seen hostile yet.

4 NJDhockeyfan  6/26/08 1:19:01 pm reply quote 0
... the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, which was established by Congress, has recommended that the academy be shut down, alleging that its religious curricula, which are taught in Saudi Arabia as well, included material inciting to racism and intolerance towards other religions.

I thought they were teaching love, peace, and tranquility.

5 Sizzlack  6/26/08 1:19:11 pm reply quote 2
This goal has been achieved at the Islamic Saudi Academy.

And by goal, he means brainwashing...

6 Lazarus  6/26/08 1:19:31 pm reply quote 0

"Free" to be a slave and to enslave.

7 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:19:36 pm reply quote 1

Behold the reason for Al-Jazeera's existence.

8 bosforus  6/26/08 1:19:39 pm reply quote 17
These flowers, which have just begun to bloom, have sprouted on American soil.

Scariest part of the whole situation.

9 Dustyvet  6/26/08 1:21:14 pm reply quote 0

Cair John Doe Law Suit in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

10 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:21:30 pm reply quote 4
The thing that frustrates me so much about these accusations is that first, they are not true, and second, it is so completely opposite from the truth.

Now go write redundant 1000 times on the board.

11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/26/08 1:21:48 pm reply quote 5
This school teaches faith, and the same basic values we want all our children to have.

Faith and values like kill the Jews and Infidels, take their things and beat or kill your women to uphold the family honor?

12 JSK1121  6/26/08 1:22:12 pm reply quote 12

"Kate Schneider, English teacher: The thing that frustrates me so much about these accusations is that first, they are not true, and second, it is so completely opposite from the truth. This school teaches faith, and the same basic values we want all our children to have."

When the faith being taught is Islamic, there is always going to be racial, religious and gender hatred as part of the curriculum. Hatred, destruction and crime are inherent traits of Islam, that's why this school should be shut down.

13 Genosaurer  6/26/08 1:22:22 pm reply quote 2

Odd that the report makes no mention of the textbooks. I wonder if Ms. Schneider was unaware of their content, or if she's just a useful idiot?

14 Iron Fist  6/26/08 1:23:00 pm reply quote 5

Understand: the teaching of hatred is the teaching of Islam. This is what the Mohammedans themselves keep telling us.

15 JSK1121  6/26/08 1:23:25 pm reply quote 10

re: #8 bosforus

Flowers? More like Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors!

"Feed me infidels, Seymour!"

16 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:23:35 pm reply quote 5

Not one mention of the Apes and Pigs thing.

Not surprising.

They are basically saying that by teaching that Joos are apes and pigs, that they are teaching faith.

It's true.

They're merely teaching the Koran.

17 jamgarr  6/26/08 1:24:05 pm reply quote 0

it approved the religious curricula

Huh?

18 UberInfidel67  6/26/08 1:24:44 pm reply quote 5

"This commission calls upon all countries of the world to respect freedom of religion there, while the commission itself violates this freedom on its own land."

Isn't this what we have all been saying about Saudi Arabia and the other mo countries? Well, since THEY don't have to listen to us, I say WE don't have to listen to them. Screw 'em.

19 Diamond Bullet  6/26/08 1:24:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #8 bosforus

Scariest part of the whole situation.

That's pretty chilling, but the auditorium retical of Koranic verses is pretty terrifying as well. Madrassahlicious.

20 sattv4u2  6/26/08 1:24:58 pm reply quote 0

Fardia Turkestani, Principal of the Girls’ School

HOLD THE WEDDIN ,,, Girls ,,, in SCHOOL !?!?!?! I thought that was agaisnt Sharia law ?

21 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:25:33 pm reply quote 1
Reporter: “I will become the slave of he who teaches me a single letter.” So what should be said about those who teach an entire language?

That they have a shitload of slaves.

22 Abu Kuffar  6/26/08 1:26:41 pm reply quote 0

The pressure is exerted by saudi oil ticks, known for their great hostility towards jews and infidels.

23 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:26:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 UberInfidel67

"This commission calls upon all countries of the world to respect freedom of religion there, while the commission itself violates this freedom on its own land."

Isn't this what we have all been saying about Saudi Arabia and the other mo countries? Well, since THEY don't have to listen to us, I say WE don't have to listen to them. Screw 'em.

Because the Saudi veiwer thinks that means their freedom to study Islam in Saudi Arabia.

24 redc1c4  6/26/08 1:26:44 pm reply quote 0

why do they even bother with an English teacher? it's not like a good muslim needs to know anything that isn't in the koran.....

come to think of it, why do they even bother with a school?

25 bosforus  6/26/08 1:27:13 pm reply quote 0

re: #19 Diamond Bullet

That's pretty chilling, but the auditorium retical of Koranic verses is pretty terrifying as well. Madrassahlicious.

How long before they do some history reenactments? (was it Hamas doing the reenactments of murdering a Jew?)

26 turn  6/26/08 1:27:16 pm reply quote 2

"This child recites verses from the Koran with perfect diction, even though he is only six years old. These flowers, which have just begun to bloom go BOOM, have sprouted on American soil. Their parents decided to help them find their roots in a supervised brainwashing environment."

/fixed

27 A Kiwi Infidel  6/26/08 1:27:17 pm reply quote 0
The thing that frustrates me so much about these accusations is that first, they are not true, and second, it is so completely opposite from the truth.

"You are to convert the infidel or kill him and Jews are descended from apes and pigs"

You see, these statements while being the revealed word of the profit (peanut brownies under here) are not true in the sense that the definition of true is not the same definition of truth as we would believe. The infidels "truth" is not the same nor has the same meaning of Truth so therfore, these accusations are entirely false and scurrilous. Off with their heads.

28 A Kiwi Infidel  6/26/08 1:27:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #26 turn


Brilliant

29 Killian Bundy  6/26/08 1:27:59 pm reply quote 10
However, this institution faces mounting pressure, and this is a nightmare for the families of the students enrolled in the academy. This pressure is exerted by several Congressmen, known for their great hostility towards Arabs and Muslims.

Geee, I wonder why this institution faces mounting pressure?

Within months of the attacks by 15 Saudi hijackers, the Washington Post reported the Saudi academy's 11th-grade textbooks, for example, say one sign of the Day of Judgment will be that Muslims will fight and kill Jews, who will hide behind trees.

The Post went on to quote several students who say they are taught in Islamic studies that "it is better to shun and even to dislike Christians, Jews and Shiite Muslims." One teen told the paper he's taught by academy teachers that it's OK for Muslims to hurt or steal from such "kafirs."

This was the steady diet of hate the Saudi academy fed Ahmed Abu Ali, who joined al-Qaida after graduating and plotted to kill President Bush. Lest anyone think Ali was a misfit loner, he graduated valedictorian and was voted as the "Most Likely to Be a Martyr."

/what other high school in this country takes a vote for "Most Likely to Be a Martyr." ?

30 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:29:03 pm reply quote 0
Most Likely to Be a Martyr

re: #29 Killian Bundy


Please tell me that's sarcasm.

31 A Kiwi Infidel  6/26/08 1:29:30 pm reply quote 0

re: #30 Ben Hur


I was going to ask the same thing.

32 Diamond Bullet  6/26/08 1:29:39 pm reply quote 3

The moonbat English teacher (redundant?) is also a hoot. But the best quote from the broadcast was this:

The academy's students participate in community activities which differ from other American schools.

Nooooo kidding.

33 Killian Bundy  6/26/08 1:30:19 pm reply quote 0

re: #30 Ben Hur

Please tell me that's sarcasm.

/don't you wish

34 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 1:31:13 pm reply quote 0
has recommended that the academy be shut down, alleging that its religious curricula, which are taught in Saudi Arabia as well,

Oh, so because it's taught in SA as well that makes it okay? Who is this reporter and who is holding her family hostage to make her spout this garbage?

35 daddycrack  6/26/08 1:31:34 pm reply quote 0
Kate Schneider, English teacher: The thing that frustrates me so much about these accusations is that first, they are not true, and second, it is so completely opposite from the truth. This school teaches faith, and the same basic values we want all our children to have.

Wow, this is mindblowing. So they have an English teacher at the Saudi academy stating a redundancy. She is obviously over-qualified to be an English teacher. Probably was fired from Fairfax county public schools.

And for these Arabs to come here and question us about freedom of religion is laughable. Seen a star of david in Riyadh lately? How about a rosary? Please!

36 A Kiwi Infidel  6/26/08 1:31:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #32 Diamond Bullet

The moonbat English teacher (redundant?) is also a hoot. But the best quote from the broadcast was this:


Nooooo kidding.

Sorry, this thread is gunna need some heating up, so I thought ..........

37 nikis-knight  6/26/08 1:31:53 pm reply quote 1

re: #2 rawmuse

This is way more frightening than creationism, if you ask me. Creationists have not bombed anything, yet.

ya think?

38 Dustyvet  6/26/08 1:32:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #32 Diamond Bullet

The moonbat English teacher (redundant?) is also a hoot. But the best quote from the broadcast was this:

Nooooo kidding.

Beheading 101?

39 Brees  6/26/08 1:33:28 pm reply quote 0

Ok.

Is that a hallway of the school, she's standing in?

If so. Are those two badged police/security officers in the background?

Does that mean the school isn't safe?

Are there metal detectors that the school children have to pass through?

40 Occasional Reader  6/26/08 1:33:29 pm reply quote 0
This child recites verses from the Koran with perfect diction, even though he is only six years old. These flowers, which have just begun to bloom, have sprouted on American soil.

I wonder what they mean by "bloom". Exactly.

41 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 1:33:54 pm reply quote 0

re: #10 Ben Hur

Now go write redundant 1000 times on the board.

......Says the "English" teacher.

ROTFLMAO! Oh, Lordy!

42 TallTexan  6/26/08 1:34:20 pm reply quote 1

What districts do Congresspersons Nudge and Wink represent? I'd like to contribute!

43 debutaunt  6/26/08 1:34:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #39 Brees

Ok.

Is that a hallway of the school, she's standing in?

If so. Are those two badged police/security officers in the background?

Does that mean the school isn't safe?

Are there metal detectors that the school children have to pass through?

I'd bet they have to turn them off as the kids leave.

44 A Kiwi Infidel  6/26/08 1:34:40 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 Occasional Reader


see # 26, I think that is getting very close to the truth, even their truth.

45 bosforus  6/26/08 1:34:54 pm reply quote 0

OT
Ben Hur,
3-0! Not too shabby. You rootin' for Spain as well?

46 coquimbojoe  6/26/08 1:35:04 pm reply quote 0

Lets be be the first (second, third. possibly fourth) to say, WhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhabis

47 sattv4u2  6/26/08 1:35:05 pm reply quote 1

re: #38 Dustyvet

Beheading 101?

Advanced Goat Humping

48 madisonsfriend  6/26/08 1:35:52 pm reply quote 0

"During a visit to Prague, Czech Republic, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said Israel should reopen the crossings to preserve the truce"

Did he go to a Saudi academy too? repeated rocket attacks from Gaza to Israel- what truce? Oh, right, I forgot an Arab truce is " we attack, Israel let us attack"

49 Spider Mensch  6/26/08 1:36:34 pm reply quote 2

re: #40 Occasional Reader

I wonder what they mean by "bloom". Exactly.

mis type...take out the "L"

50 wolfie  6/26/08 1:37:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #17 jamgarr

it approved the religious curricula

Huh?

My understanding is that the Fairfax County Board definitely approved the $ 2 million per annum rent money it gets for letting the school use county property. Other than that, the Board knows nothing and cares even less.

51 buzzsawmonkey  6/26/08 1:38:33 pm reply quote 0

I want to see film of the meetings of the Friends of Apes and Pigs Club.

52 godfrey  6/26/08 1:39:02 pm reply quote 8

I found the school's anthem:

Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took
But I do know that I hate Jews
And if I slew them all, and kuffars too
What a wonderful world this would be

53 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 1:39:40 pm reply quote 0

It has never changed....when in doubt........

54 wrenchwench  6/26/08 1:40:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 TallTexan

What districts do Congresspersons Nudge and Wink represent? I'd like to contribute!

I'm guessing that one of them is Steve Pearce, R-NM, and he's running for Senate against one of the Udalls, and he does need help.

55 coquimbojoe  6/26/08 1:41:01 pm reply quote 3

re: #29 Killian Bundy

/what other high school in this country takes a vote for "Most Likely to Be a Martyr." ?

"Cutest couple not yet married about to be caned" and "Best covered hair" "least likely to be funny" were also hotly contested yearbook catagories....

56 madisonsfriend  6/26/08 1:41:01 pm reply quote 0

Reporter: The academy’s students participate in community activities, which differ from other American schools.

What - that is a bald faced lie? Other students don't participate in community activities- they are required to in many schools- my kids volunteered at a shelter and a summer camp. What activities did these kids participate in- teach girls how to be subservient day?

57 chinesearithmetic  6/26/08 1:41:56 pm reply quote 0

49 I wonder what they mean by "bloom". Exactly.

mis type...take out the "L"

52 Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took
But I do know that I hate Jews
And if I slew them all, and kuffars too
What a wonderful world this would be

They can't defeat my guys.

58 nikis-knight  6/26/08 1:42:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 Occasional Reader

I wonder what they mean by "bloom". Exactly.

The l was added later, if that helps.

59 Kathleen  6/26/08 1:42:25 pm reply quote 3

The danger may not be immediate, but allowing these institutions to thrive poses a serious future danger to the United States and other western nations. Wherever Muslims become a majority, Sharia will become the law of the land.

Think of the future, and the real threat is clear.

60 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 1:42:33 pm reply quote 0

This reminds me of all of those Christian and Jewish private schools that were found to be preaching that one must murder all people not of their faith.....you see it is Religion that is the problem..

~oh wait, what?....that never happened? doh!

61 wolfie  6/26/08 1:42:37 pm reply quote 1

re: #54 wrenchwench

I'm guessing that one of them is Steve Pearce, R-NM, and he's running for Senate against one of the Udalls, and he does need

62 Pygmalienation  6/26/08 1:42:41 pm reply quote 0

"These flowers, which have just begun to bloom, have sprouted on American soil. Their parents decided to help them find their roots in a supervised environment."

That just gives me a severe case of ...dare I say it? "Islamophobia"

63 Iron Fist  6/26/08 1:43:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #34 Russkilitlover,

Saudi Arabia is the Model of Religious Tolerance that Mohammedans wish to see spread across the world. Comforting, isn't it?

64 rawmuse  6/26/08 1:43:43 pm reply quote 7

If these are blooming flowers, pass the Roundup.

65 Venezuela lover  6/26/08 1:44:14 pm reply quote 0
This commission calls upon all countries of the world to respect freedom of religion there, while the commission itself violates this freedom on its own land.

Islam does not support freedom of religion and that is why they are not wanted in this country. Stop the crap about muslims killing non-believers, let churches into Islamic countries, stop killing apostates, and rewrite the racist Koran, then we will reconsider.

66 sattv4u2  6/26/08 1:44:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 rawmuse

If these are blooming flowers, pass the Roundup.

One Dingy Uppy

67 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:44:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #33 Killian Bundy

/don't you wish

I don't beleive it.

68 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:44:53 pm reply quote 0

re: #67 Ben Hur

I don't beleive it.

Believe, either.

69 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 1:45:02 pm reply quote 0

I just LOVE that parting shot about "Freedom of Religion".

70 Abu Lahab  6/26/08 1:45:12 pm reply quote 0

Nothing from Al Jazeera seems surprising anymore. They are Al Jihad TV so openly. They don't see a problem in preaching Jihad since they do that themselves. Thanks for whoever had a hand in exposing that "academy".

71 Dustyvet  6/26/08 1:45:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #63 Iron Fist

,

Saudi Arabia is the Model of Religious Tolerance that Mohammedans wish to see spread across the world. Comforting, isn't it?

[Link: cache.viewimages.com...]

72 saltmarsh  6/26/08 1:45:38 pm reply quote 0

If mohammad was the ideal role model for all muslims, and mohammad couldn't read or write, would someone please explain why they have schools? Oral history anyone?

islam is still a perfidious pigshit cult.

73 wrenchwench  6/26/08 1:46:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #61 wolfie

I'm sure Sue Myrick of NC is in that honorable group.


Exactly. We need good people like these in the House and the Senate. These are the kind of candidates one could get excited about.

74 Iron Fist  6/26/08 1:46:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #71 Dustyvet,

I get a 403 - Forbidden error when I try the link.

75 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 1:49:28 pm reply quote 0

re: #72 saltmarsh

Your broad outright hatred of a very large group of people is not very becoming. Not to mention that it does the reputation of LGF and the other posters here no favors.

76 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 1:50:00 pm reply quote 0

re: #32 Diamond Bullet

The moonbat English teacher (redundant?) is also a hoot. But the best quote from the broadcast was this:

Nooooo kidding.

Please tell me that you didn't mean to suggest that English teachers are usually moonbats.

77 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 1:50:00 pm reply quote 1

re: #74 Iron Fist

,

I get a 403 - Forbidden error when I try the link.

That's because you are an Infidel and are not allowed to view sacred Islamic images. Either that, or you haven't received your permission from the UN yet to use the amount of energy it takes to open the link.

78 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:50:02 pm reply quote 0

re: #45 bosforus

OT
Ben Hur,
3-0! Not too shabby. You rootin' for Spain as well?

It's a toss up.

As I posted yesterday, the remaining 4 teams have quite the history with my people.

79 BignJames  6/26/08 1:50:39 pm reply quote 0

Reporter: The academy’s students participate in community activities, which differ from other American schools

I'll bet.

80 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:51:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #79 BignJames

Reporter: The academy’s students participate in community activities, which differ from other American schools

I'll bet.


That's meant to be a slight against American schools.

Hollywood has taught them what those are like.

81 Bubblehead II  6/26/08 1:51:39 pm reply quote 0

re: #71 Dustyvet

All I got was the html code for the link

82 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 1:51:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #76 goddessoftheclassroom

Please tell me that you didn't mean to suggest that English teachers are usually moonbats.

Goddess - methinks you are an exception. For some reason, I know a lot of teachers, primary and college/university, and most are to the left of moonbats.

83 Pygmalienation  6/26/08 1:52:06 pm reply quote 1

re: #64 rawmuse

Indeed, may American Soil prove toxic to these "flowers".

84 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 1:52:37 pm reply quote 0

Do numerous countries open schools in our country or is it only Saudi Arabia?

This whole "other Countries opening up schools to teach american children" thing is odd.... What is the problem? Some American muslim couldn't start their own school here?

85 Iron Fist  6/26/08 1:53:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #77 Russkilitlover,

Well, we all know that We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times, or click links on blogs ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK

That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen.

:-þ

86 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:53:53 pm reply quote 1

I guess this means more Saudis will fear coming to the US.

All this PR will backfire.

87 loubob57  6/26/08 1:53:57 pm reply quote 0

Aren't they getting tax money to run this academy? They freely admit they are teaching religion. Gosh, isn't that a problem?

88 buzzsawmonkey  6/26/08 1:54:05 pm reply quote 3

re: #84 WrathofG-d

Just wait until the movie "Children of the Koran" comes out.

89 BignJames  6/26/08 1:54:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #80 Ben Hur


Yeah...I got it...but I was thinking more along the lines of bombmaking, head chopping, infidel killing etc.

90 vxbush  6/26/08 1:54:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #76 goddessoftheclassroom

Please tell me that you didn't mean to suggest that English teachers are usually moonbats.

[she says, while holding a copy of the OED, ready to strike against anyone who calls her moonbat]

91 Iron Fist  6/26/08 1:54:46 pm reply quote 4

re: #86 Ben Hur

I guess this means more Saudis will fear coming to the US.


I'm not seein' a downside here...

92 saltmarsh  6/26/08 1:55:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #75 WrathofG-d
I beg your pardon, I don't hate Muslims. I believe them to be deluded, but I don't hate them. I do believe however, people who understand and follow the Koran have a deep and abiding hatred for infidels such as myself.

93 sattv4u2  6/26/08 1:56:21 pm reply quote 0

re: #75 WrathofG-d

Your broad outright hatred of a very large group of people is not very becoming. Not to mention that it does the reputation of LGF and the other posters here no favors.

As one that has several Muslim freinds, I agree with you. Too many times we rush to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. I know it's not popular to say, but it's just a minority of RADICAL Muslims that are reported about, and often we lump them together with Palistinains, radical non-Muslim Arabs and Persians as a whole and derive from that that "MuslimS" are all evil.

I often discuss with my freinds why they as Muslims don't speak out more fervently against the radicals. They assure me that they do, but they get no audience with the MSM.

94 taxfreekiller  6/26/08 1:56:25 pm reply quote 0

tfk busy,
but has time for the usual OT
Roy Beck of
[Link: www.numbersusa.com...]

says the battles are being won, but,,
they need money,,and a ps within,
the un-election of Chris Cannon in Utah's 3rd dist. will budge a few
more to sign on to the Save Act, ms popcycle is so opposed to

thanks from Roy and Numbers U.S.A.

too also
just because tfk can
[Link: www.blowoutcongress.com...]

by Jeff Bolton of
[Link: www.klif.com...]

95 wolfie  6/26/08 1:56:53 pm reply quote 0

re: #76 goddessoftheclassroom

Please tell me that you didn't mean to suggest that English teachers are usually moonbats.

I suspect that on the university level the vast majority are today.
Considering that today in many colleges you can major in English without ever having taken a course on Shakespeare, on Milton, or on Dickens........indeed, w/o ever reading anything written before WWII....the universities are turning out a sad pool from which our teachers will be drawn.

96 Alouette  6/26/08 1:57:08 pm reply quote -1

Oh you are all just a bunch of Islamophobes!

What do you say about Jewish schools teaching that Jews have an extra soul gentiles do not have! Isn't that racism and hate! You are such hypocrites!

This is just an anti-Arab, Muslim-hating racist HATE SITE!!

I am reporting you to the Human Rights Commission!

Sincerely,

Richard Warman

97 nikis-knight  6/26/08 1:57:11 pm reply quote 0

re: #86 Ben Hur

I guess this means more Saudis will fear coming to the US.

All this PR will backfire.

I don't think you can make America as distasteful to Muslims as Saudi Arabia or, well, any other Muslim state.
Strangely enough, the much detested freedom seems to have created a much nicer country than Sharia.

98 bosforus  6/26/08 1:57:35 pm reply quote 0

re: #78 Ben Hur

It's a toss up.

As I posted yesterday, the remaining 4 teams have quite the history with my people.

"My people" would dictate that I root for Germany over Spain in the finals. However, because of other factors, I'm pulling for Spain.

99 kywrite  6/26/08 1:57:40 pm reply quote 4

Totally o/t:

My shiny new-minted Marine son is visiting! Graduating his advance training school #6 in class, to be stationed in Okinawa (his dream post), and coming here to Hawaii for a month in between!

Yay! SO proud of him -- he just decided out of the blue to join last year, and had to lose 80 pounds and get his sorry sack-of-potatoes butt into shape. He says it's proof anyone can do it.

100 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 1:57:43 pm reply quote -1

re: #92 saltmarsh

I'm not going to re-quote your last statement, nor get into a pissing match with you, but some comments in that original post seemed to show otherwise. You can believe, and think whatever you'd like, I am however going to point out my disfavor with such behavior when I see it.

101 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 1:58:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #82 Russkilitlover

Goddess - methinks you are an exception. For some reason, I know a lot of teachers, primary and college/university, and most are to the left of moonbats.

Serious questions (please don't laugh!): do you think they bring their bias into the class room?

That's was irks me.

102 brakes  6/26/08 1:58:34 pm reply quote 1

re: #75 WrathofG-d

He was speaking about Islam itself, not muslims.

103 buzzsawmonkey  6/26/08 1:58:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #95 wolfie

There was writing before WWII?

104 sattv4u2  6/26/08 1:58:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #78 Ben Hur

It's a toss up.

As I posted yesterday, the remaining 4 teams have quite the history with my people.

Roman Gladiators ?

105 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 1:59:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #90 vxbush

[she says, while holding a copy of the OED, ready to strike against anyone who calls her moonbat]

LOL! Even the condensed OED would be a lethal weapon with enough physical force behind it!

106 ploome hineni  6/26/08 1:59:21 pm reply quote 2

..why is this a surprise?

...the turtle is ferrying animals across a river so they can get to high ground and escape a flood. The scorpion repeatedly asks to be taken but the turtle refuses. Finally all the animals are across except the scorpion who pleads his case one last time. He convinces the turtle by telling him that it would be foolish for the scorpion to sting him because then he would die as well. About halfway across the river, the scorpion indeed does sting the turtle. The turtle, dying, asks why since now they would both die. The scorpion responds that it was his nature to do so.

Some might take this as the “evil” scorpion tricking the turtle so he could kill him, even at the cost of his life. I choose to say that the turtle took the risk and really shouldn't have been surprised. I don't make any moral judgement of either one. It was an expected outcome of the situation. There's no need to hunt down all the scorpions and kill them.

islam holds the non believer in contempt and is mandated to jihad and dawa; to make islam supreme in all the world

why is this a surprise?

107 Ben Hur  6/26/08 1:59:36 pm reply quote 1

re: #97 nikis-knight


As long as their media, CAIR, etc, keeps telling them that there is an anti-Muslim atmosphere akin to 1930's Germany vis a vis der Juden, they do end up thinking twice about coming.

108 sattv4u2  6/26/08 1:59:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #101 goddessoftheclassroom

Serious questions (please don't laugh!): do you think they bring their bias into the class room?

That's was irks me.

BRING it? They FLAUNT IT !

109 wolfie  6/26/08 1:59:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #87 loubob57

Aren't they getting tax money to run this academy? They freely admit they are teaching religion. Gosh, isn't that a problem?

No. It is a private school funded by SArabia.
But the county is leasing them their land.....and in the la$t couple of week$ or $o voted to renew the lea$e.

110 formercorpsman  6/26/08 1:59:59 pm reply quote 1

re: #84 WrathofG-d

I have no problem with schools leaning towards religious based education.

I would be a hypocrite if I was.

The problem is, the fine line.

We as a nation have to come to our own realization sooner or later, there are forces out there hell bent on using our own freedom to undermine us.

Furthermore, we are financing this.

While some may disagree with my Catholic faith, they don't have oil wells raking in our dollars only to be used against our way of life.

Never in a million years, the day after 911, would I dream that in less than 10 years, we would be dealing with this on our own soil right now.

Never.

111 vxbush  6/26/08 2:00:15 pm reply quote 0

re: #105 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL! Even the condensed OED would be a lethal weapon with enough physical force behind it!

Heh. Exactly. Much better than the Chicago Manual of Style.

112 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 2:00:17 pm reply quote 1

re: #99 kywrite

Totally o/t:

My shiny new-minted Marine son is visiting! Graduating his advance training school #6 in class, to be stationed in Okinawa (his dream post), and coming here to Hawaii for a month in between!

Yay! SO proud of him -- he just decided out of the blue to join last year, and had to lose 80 pounds and get his sorry sack-of-potatoes butt into shape. He says it's proof anyone can do it.

Congratulations! Please thank him for his commitment.

113 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:00:38 pm reply quote 0

re: #93 sattv4u2

I would find it hard to believe that the MSM does't want to promote anti-terrorism Muslims if they exist in such a high number, as the MSM spends most of its time excusing even the Terrorists....but our point that outright hatred of Islam or Muslims is not necessary or productive is valid. I have no Muslim friends (that i know of) and do not think very fondly of those that I have met (because of their personal attitudes, nothing having to do with politics, etc.), but I am very careful not to scapegoat every individual for the actions of others. (whether it be a majority, or a minority).

114 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:00:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #98 bosforus

"My people" would dictate that I root for Germany over Spain in the finals. However, because of other factors, I'm pulling for Spain.

I'll end up pulling for Spain, too.

115 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 2:01:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #111 vxbush

Heh. Exactly. Much better than the Chicago Manual of Style.

Infidel! We English teachers insist on the MLA!