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Breaking: Al-Arian Indicted for Contempt

Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:28:37 pm PDT

Just announced at the Investigative Project: Al-Arian Indicted for Contempt.

Convicted terrorist Sami Al-Arian has been indicted in Virginia on two counts of criminal contempt after refusing to testify before a federal grand jury despite a grant of immunity.

Al-Arian, who pled guilty in 2006 to conspiring to provide goods and services to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, has argued that his plea agreement ruled out any cooperation with the government. Two appellate courts, the 4th Circuit and 11th Circuit have rejected that argument, saying no such agreement is in the written plea and was not uttered during Al-Arian’s plea hearing.

The indictment offers few details, except to give Oct. 16, 2007 and March 20, 2008 as the dates of his alleged criminal contempt. The grand jury’s focus is believed to be on terror financing by the Herndon, Va.-based International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT).

IIIT was the single biggest donor for Al-Arian’s Tampa-based think tank, the World and Islam Studies Enterprise (WISE). The president of IIIT Al-Arian wrote a letter in 1992 referring to WISE as an extension of IIIT.

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1 obscured by clouds  6/26/08 2:29:35 pm reply quote 2

Contempt of court, eh? Hang him.

2 Behead Me Bob  6/26/08 2:29:49 pm reply quote 1

Taqiya and Kitman.
Islamic terms for lying to Infidels and not telling the whole truth.

3 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:30:10 pm reply quote 0

Hero.

/NYTIMES.

4 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:30:58 pm reply quote 0

He's merely a professor.

/NYTIMES

5 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:31:05 pm reply quote 1

Why would a completely innocent, america loving, charitable man like Sami not want to help fight Terrorism?

~I'm so confused

6 Perry  6/26/08 2:31:09 pm reply quote 0

There are few more contemptible.

7 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:31:47 pm reply quote 0

Mandela or Vannunu?

8 obscured by clouds  6/26/08 2:32:28 pm reply quote 0

#1
If he's not actually hung, at least force him listen to Hall and Oates for the rest of his life, over and over and over...

9 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:33:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #8 obscured by clouds

#1
If he's not actually hung, at least force him listen to Hall and Oates for the rest of his life, over and over and over...

Dude, did you just respond to yourself as if you were two seperate people?

10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/26/08 2:34:35 pm reply quote 1

Another radical Muslim playing with the courts to string us along. I bet he laughs his ass to sleep every night.

11 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:34:50 pm reply quote 0
World and Islam Studies Enterprise (WISE).

Do you think that front groups like CAIR and WISE come up with their acronyms before or after they think of the extended name?

12 JammieWearingFool  6/26/08 2:36:39 pm reply quote 0

Islamophobia!

13 buzzsawmonkey  6/26/08 2:37:04 pm reply quote 1

What do the Al-Arian Nations have to say?

14 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:37:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #13 buzzsawmonkey

Does his name translate to Sami The Aryian?

15 mbruce  6/26/08 2:38:27 pm reply quote 1

Yup, let them ALL have court time, that's all we need to get this thing under control.

16 Mich-again  6/26/08 2:38:54 pm reply quote 1

Somewhere deep in the fever swamp of Obama's blog there are probably moonbats bitching about this story WITH THE CAPS LOCK ON!

17 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:38:57 pm reply quote 0

How long has his "hunger strike" been going on for?

18 NJDhockeyfan  6/26/08 2:39:39 pm reply quote 2

OT:

Move America Forward’s Melanie Morgan and Michelle Malkin are live online for the troops.

“From the Frontlines”

19 SasquatchOnSteroids  6/26/08 2:40:04 pm reply quote 0

Let him rot. I remember when Bill O said he'd follow him to Denny's with his ties to terrorists. Here's yer Grand Slammer, asscramp.

20 jamgarr  6/26/08 2:40:09 pm reply quote 0

Now that's the Sami that I knew!

21 obscured by clouds  6/26/08 2:40:38 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 WrathofG-d

Dude, did you just respond to yourself as if you were two seperate people?

Now that you mention it, I did. Next thing you know I'll start referring to myself in the third person.

22 Pygmalienation  6/26/08 2:41:06 pm reply quote 0

One more down... but I fear not out.
But "Yay" all the same!

23 Silhouette  6/26/08 2:41:30 pm reply quote 2

From the movie The Untouchables:

"Try a murderer for not paying his taxes?!"

"It's better than nothing."

24 karmic_inquisitor  6/26/08 2:41:38 pm reply quote 4

somewhere. right now a moonbat is thinking.

he is thinking 'whoa. dude. like, I missed out on the whole free mumia t-shirt opportunity. like. I could buy a shit load of t shirts and put 'free Al Arian' on them and shit!

yeah dude!'

then he lights up another bowl to celebrate and loses all motivation to do it.

/such is life for the moonbat.

25 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:41:42 pm reply quote 1

America is racist.

If this guy was a white American he's be teaching English in some college in Chicago.

26 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:42:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #25 Ben Hur

America is racist.

If this guy was a white American he's be teaching English in some college in Chicago.

Well not so much...he WAS teaching college in Florida.

27 Perry  6/26/08 2:42:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #23 Silhouette

From the movie The Untouchables:

"Try a murderer for not paying his taxes?!"

"It's better than nothing."

Whatever works.

28 Silhouette  6/26/08 2:43:10 pm reply quote 0

re: #16 Mich-again

Somewhere deep in the fever swamp of Obama's blog there are probably moonbats bitching about this story WITH THE CAPS LOCK ON!

But they feeeeeel really, weally deeply about it!

29 JammieWearingFool  6/26/08 2:43:21 pm reply quote 0

On a related note, Al-Arian's daughter is collaborating on a book with that scumbag Chris Hedges.

Chris Hedges and Laila Al-Arian on “Collateral Damage: America’s War Against Iraqi Civilians”

Chris Hedges, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Senior Fellow at the Nation Institute. He was the former Middle East Bureau Chief of the New York Times. He is the author of several books, including War Is a Force that Gives Us Meaning and American Fascists. His latest book is Collateral Damage: America’s War Against Iraqi Civilians.

Laila Al-Arian, Freelance journalist who has written for several publications including USA Today, The Nation magazine, HuffingtonPost.com, and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. She is the co-author of Collateral Damage: America’s War Against Iraqi Civilians.

...

AMY GOODMAN: Finally, the book is dedicated, Laila, to your dad, to Dr. Sami Al-Arian, who’s been jailed in this country for more than five years, has been on two extended hunger strikes. Can you give us an update on his situation?

LAILA AL-ARIAN: Well, Amy, the update on my father’s case is that we’re still waiting to see where the government will proceed in his case. His time that he served has technically run out. He should have been deported, released and allowed to rejoin his family months ago, back in April, should have been the final date. We now fear that the government is getting ready to charge him with criminal contempt for—after trying to force him to testify in a completely separate case. So what we fear is that they’re going to try to exact revenge and retribution for his acquittal more than two-and-a-half years ago by keeping him in jail for God knows how long. And we’re just hoping and praying that they’ll do the right thing and release him now, months after he was supposed to have been released.

AMY GOODMAN: Where is he now?

LAILA AL-ARIAN: He’s now in Portsmouth, Virginia, near Virginia Beach. And again—

AMY GOODMAN: And what is it that gives you hope at this point?

LAILA AL-ARIAN: Honestly, just looking at the facts rationally and past precedent. What they’ve done to him for the past two-and-a-half years, it’s hard to keep hope. But our hope and faith is in God and all the support that we’ve received, not just all over the country, but all over the world.

30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/26/08 2:43:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #27 Perry

Whatever works.

Strap him to a UAV and fly it over the Bermuda Triangle till it disappears?

31 wolfie  6/26/08 2:44:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #25 Ben Hur

America is racist.

If this guy was a white American he's be teaching English in some college in Chicago.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if sooner or later he ended up with a sinecure in the Ivy League.

32 Ben Hur  6/26/08 2:44:40 pm reply quote 0

BBL

33 ploome hineni  6/26/08 2:44:55 pm reply quote 0

nail that arrogant POS

34 ROP?LOL  6/26/08 2:45:27 pm reply quote 0

re: #33 ploome hineni
Again. And again.

35 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:45:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

w00t! I'm not the only crazy person that listens to Pacifica....

36 Mich-again  6/26/08 2:46:06 pm reply quote 1

Moonbat: Free Sami! Free Sami!

Me: Umm. I am kind of hungry. What kind of Sammy you got there? Ham and Cheese? Pulled pork?

37 Pullus Iulius  6/26/08 2:46:22 pm reply quote 0

Two good decisions coming out of the courts today. Let's hope that good things come in threes.

38 jamgarr  6/26/08 2:46:35 pm reply quote 0

I've never heard Amy Goodman sound happy.

39 Silhouette  6/26/08 2:46:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

Collateral Damage: America’s War Against Iraqi Civilians

They probably should look up collateral before going too far with that argument that the war is against civilians.

/helpful hint

While they're researching, they could also look up how many civilians died of collateral damage compared to how many dead civilians were targeted by the sonsabitches that we are trying to stop.

40 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:47:57 pm reply quote 0
41 Li'l Mamzer  6/26/08 2:48:07 pm reply quote 1

This has been a bad news week, but this latest about Al Arian is something to feel good about.

Oh yeah, Chris Hedges is a huge, sanctimonious, useful idiot turd.

42 opnion  6/26/08 2:48:36 pm reply quote 3

There you go, the proof statement that Amerikkka is a hateful , Islamophobic country.
Just because this man wanted to provide funds to buy suicide belts, so that Israeli teenagers would be blown up in pizza parlors is no reason for us to get on our moral high horse.
The Noble Koran enourages that kind of conduct.
Why are we not celebrating diversity?

43 yochanan  6/26/08 2:49:00 pm reply quote 0

We have to get these momzars now under obama they will be made hero's

44 VegasRick  6/26/08 2:49:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #8 obscured by clouds

#1
If he's not actually hung, at least force him listen to Hall and Oates for the rest of his life, over and over and over...

You are so cruel.

45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/26/08 2:49:41 pm reply quote 2

re: #40 WrathofG-d

46 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:52:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sami The Arian's Friends aka the Usual Suspects

47 Killgore Trout  6/26/08 2:52:12 pm reply quote 1

re: #40 WrathofG-d

Free Sami

48 Mich-again  6/26/08 2:52:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 WrathofG-d

Ha. I was just kidding.

49 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 2:54:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #47 Killgore Trout

50 godfrey  6/26/08 2:55:06 pm reply quote 0

What Western court wouldn't he hold in contempt?

51 opnion  6/26/08 2:55:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #49 WrathofG-d

Gotta love Sammy David JEWnior


The Candy Maaaaaan! And I mean that man.

52 Tarkus289  6/26/08 2:58:11 pm reply quote 0

Sammy Davis

53 taxfreekiller  6/26/08 2:59:20 pm reply quote 2

Keep in mind this.

This same U.S. Government we the people elected, this Congress and this Senate are the same ones who allowed the sub-prime/mortgage/overbuilt home market are the ones who now deal with this problem, and expecting them to do better is not a sane approach to the problem.

[Link: www.blowoutcongress.com...]

54 karmic_inquisitor  6/26/08 3:01:36 pm reply quote 0

#8
#44

if you snuck in a version of 'sarah smile' called 'surah smile' you'd force Justice Kennedy to come to his aid - torture and cruel & unusual in the same action.

/do these panties on my head make me look fat?

55 Killgore Trout  6/26/08 3:03:22 pm reply quote 5

OT: Islamist refuses to accept an award from a woman, claims Islamophobia for not getting the award anyways....
Somali Muslim humiliated for simply following his religion


Alinoor Ahmed Sheikh, a Somali asylum seeker based in Co. Kerry, had been selected for the accolade by the judging panel of the Africa Centre’s annual World Refugee Day awards, due to his work with the Kerry Volunteer Centre and as a fundraiser for Amnesty International.

He respectfully informed organisers prior to the ceremony that he was a practising Muslim and therefore would be unable to shake hands with the female presenter. According to the Irish newspaper Metro Eireann, the organisers had accepted his request and had promised Sheikh that there would be “no problem”.

However, Sheikh – who had been writing notes for his acceptance speech during the ceremony – was left stunned when another person’s name was announced as the winner. He said this treatment had left him aggrieved.
...
Later, Sheikh inquired as to why this happend and was told it was because he refused to shake hands.


Humiliation!

56 Perry  6/26/08 3:04:44 pm reply quote 1

re: #49 WrathofG-d

There are some suggestions for troop support on the thread where you asked...

57 buzzsawmonkey  6/26/08 3:05:11 pm reply quote 0

What makes Sami run?

58 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 3:06:06 pm reply quote 1
has argued that his plea agreement ruled out any cooperation with the government.

If these idiots want to use our laws, systems, and courts against us, they might want to clue up on them first.

59 VegasRick  6/26/08 3:06:39 pm reply quote 0

re: #55 Killgore Trout

OT: Islamist refuses to accept an award from a woman, claims Islamophobia for not getting the award anyways....

60 Victrola  6/26/08 3:06:53 pm reply quote 0

Exxxcellent!

/Mr. Burns

61 opnion  6/26/08 3:07:31 pm reply quote 2

re: #58 Russkilitlover

If these idiots want to use our laws, systems, and courts against us, they might want to clue up on them first.

The rejoinder to that could be, we lied. It's right in your Book

62 VegasRick  6/26/08 3:07:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #58 Russkilitlover

If these idiots want to use our laws, systems, and courts against us, they might want to clue up on them first.

Maybe not. This outcome was very good for us.

63 ploome hineni  6/26/08 3:10:31 pm reply quote 1

re: #40 WrathofG-d

64 JimmyTheClaw  6/26/08 3:11:25 pm reply quote 8

The Waiting Room


This is so true! They always ask at the doctor's office why you are there, and you have to answer in front of others what's wrong and sometimes it is embarrassing.
There's nothing worse than a receptionist who insists you tell her what is wrong with you in a room full of other patients. Many of us have experienced this, and I love the way this old guy handled it.



An 86-year-old man walked into a crowded waiting room and approached the desk. The receptionist said, 'Hello, sir. Can you please tell me why you're here to see the doctor today?'

'There's something wrong with my dick,' he replied.

The receptionist became irritated and said, 'You shouldn't come into a crowded waiting room and say things like that.'

'Why not? You asked me what was wrong and I told you,' he said.

The receptionist replied, 'Now you've caused some embarrassment in this room full of people. You should have said there is something wrong with your ear or something and discussed the problem further with the doctor in private.'

The man replied, 'You shouldn't ask people questions in a room full of strangers, if the answer could embarrass anyone.' The man walked out, waited several minutes and then re-entered .

The receptionist smiled smugly and asked, 'Yes?'

'There's something wrong with my ear,' he stated.

The receptionist nodded approvingly and smiled, knowing he had taken her advice. 'And what is wrong with your ear, sir?'

'I can't piss out of it,' he replied.

The waiting room erupted in laughter.

Mess with seniors and you're gonna lose

65 WrathofG-d  6/26/08 3:11:40 pm reply quote 1

re: #62 VegasRick

I believe Sami was hung jury or acquitted the 1st time around (something like that) he very well knows the U.S. laws.

I would still like to know why a completely pro-American, anti-Terrorism, 100% innocent guy like Sami Al-Aryan would be so against helping American the country he loves fight against terrorism.

66 ted  6/26/08 3:11:50 pm reply quote 0

"The indictment offers few details..."

Don't need any...He's guilty.

Pity they don't use this anymore.

[Link: www.rochester.edu...]

67 opnion  6/26/08 3:13:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #63 ploome hineni

the POS pled guilty


You know that he was all lawyerd up.
H eunderstood that his plea agreement did not protct him from testifying, when he had immunity.
It is just an attempt to muddy the waters.

68 CIA Reject  6/26/08 3:14:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #65 WrathofG-d

I believe Sami was hung jury or acquitted the 1st time around (something like that) he very well knows the U.S. laws.

I would still like to know why a completely pro-American, anti-Terrorism, 100% innocent guy like Sami Al-Aryan would be so against helping American the country he loves fight against terrorism.

My guess would be because he is fond of having his head in it's present condition- fully attached.

69 GeeWiz  6/26/08 3:15:34 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Move America Forward’s Melanie Morgan and Michelle Malkin are live online for the troops.

70 SasquatchOnSteroids  6/26/08 3:15:37 pm reply quote 0

Sami's getting contempt.
I'm getting this.

America.

71 SasquatchOnSteroids  6/26/08 3:16:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #70 SasquatchOnSteroids

I'm Getting this = We're getting this.

Wow, headcold.

72 gymnast  6/26/08 3:16:53 pm reply quote 0

At least they indicted the contemptuous little prick on the right charge. He should get the death penalty just for his contemptuous smirk let alone his treason, overdue library books, and littering.

73 pat  6/26/08 3:20:55 pm reply quote 1

Hmmm. An indicted co-conspirator.

74 VegasRick  6/26/08 3:22:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #65 WrathofG-d

I believe Sami was hung jury or acquitted the 1st time around (something like that) he very well knows the U.S. laws.

I would still like to know why a completely pro-American, anti-Terrorism, 100% innocent guy like Sami Al-Aryan would be so against helping American the country he loves fight against terrorism.

Scami is a lieing scumbag POS that wishes nothing less than death to all of us non-muslime infidels and our great nation. I think that is why.

75 Killian Bundy  6/26/08 3:25:59 pm reply quote 3
Convicted terrorist Sami Al-Arian

/one less vote for Obama

76 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 3:31:05 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 JimmyTheClaw

The Waiting Room


This is so true! They always ask at the doctor's office why you are there, and you have to answer in front of others what's wrong and sometimes it is embarrassing.
There's nothing worse than a receptionist who insists you tell her what is wrong with you in a room full of other patients. Many of us have experienced this, and I love the way this old guy handled it.



An 86-year-old man walked into a crowded waiting room and approached the desk. The receptionist said, 'Hello, sir. Can you please tell me why you're here to see the doctor today?'

'There's something wrong with my dick,' he replied.

The receptionist became irritated and said, 'You shouldn't come into a crowded waiting room and say things like that.'

'Why not? You asked me what was wrong and I told you,' he said.

The receptionist replied, 'Now you've caused some embarrassment in this room full of people. You should have said there is something wrong with your ear or something and discussed the problem further with the doctor in private.'

The man replied, 'You shouldn't ask people questions in a room full of strangers, if the answer could embarrass anyone.' The man walked out, waited several minutes and then re-entered .

The receptionist smiled smugly and asked, 'Yes?'

'There's something wrong with my ear,' he stated.

The receptionist nodded approvingly and smiled, knowing he had taken her advice. 'And what is wrong with your ear, sir?'

'I can't piss out of it,' he replied.

The waiting room erupted in laughter.

Mess with seniors and you're gonna lose

With HIPPA rules now, that doctor would have a lawsuit on his hands.

79 The Shadow Do  6/26/08 3:33:04 pm reply quote 2

Curious, could someone with a damage claim against Islamic Jihad e.g. harmed Israeli (or other) citizen then sue in a US court naming IIIT, WISE and their officers/operatives e.g. Al-Arian? I'd like to see someone take a big bite out of their ass and put all other asses on notice.

80 BignJames  6/26/08 3:36:36 pm reply quote 0

IIIT......I'm thinking dial-tone.

81 formercorpsman  6/26/08 3:42:50 pm reply quote 1

re: #76 goddessoftheclassroom

Having now 18 years in medicine, there will never be anyway to enforce it.

You can't imagine how many people are totally clueless about that law.

They actually get angry when you ask for a release authorization.

Many actually think it is the medical provider doing it, and would never dream it is federal law.

82 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 3:46:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #62 VegasRick

Maybe not. This outcome was very good for us.

Oh, I agree! Bully for us on this one. I'm just saying that his reason was so completely assinine - granted immunity but then refuse to cooperate and be surprised you get a trip to the slammer.

83 VegasRick  6/26/08 3:47:09 pm reply quote 0

OT but funny, funny, funny!

[Link: www.noolmusic.com...]

84 jcm  6/26/08 3:48:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 formercorpsman

Having now 18 years in medicine, there will never be anyway to enforce it.

You can't imagine how many people are totally clueless about that law.

They actually get angry when you ask for a release authorization.

Many actually think it is the medical provider doing it, and would never dream it is federal law.

My wife is a Physical Therapist. Where she works it's completely paper, and she spends hours on the paper work. Her employer is big on measuring productivity, patient contact hours. Yet they absolutely refuse to look at electronic record keeping because of HIPPA. Not realizing systems can meet HIPPA and literally save hours a day in documentation, free up more time for patient contact.

85 VegasRick  6/26/08 3:48:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #82 Russkilitlover

Oh, I agree! Bully for us on this one. I'm just saying that his reason was so completely assinine - granted immunity but then refuse to cooperate and be surprised you get a trip to the slammer.

Slammered.
His new nickname in the can! Oh wait!

86 LEGION  6/26/08 3:50:10 pm reply quote 1

We have nothing but contempt for him! Rot in jail scum!

87 GeeWiz  6/26/08 3:50:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #69 GeeWiz

Whoo Hoo, I finally got thru to purchase a care package. I urge all lizards to do the same.

88 SasquatchOnSteroids  6/26/08 3:54:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #77 SasquatchOnSteroids

Hot Air

89 pat  6/26/08 3:58:16 pm reply quote 1

Obama drives that bus like a drunk through an obstacle course.

90 Silhouette  6/26/08 4:00:20 pm reply quote 3

Someone must have handed Obama a pocket Constitution.

Can't you just see him reading it?

"No kidding, THAT'S allowed too? And that? What's with all this freedom crap?"

91 BingoBunny  6/26/08 4:01:55 pm reply quote 1

this gun rights ruling is like drilling for oil to solve a oil shortage.

/it works everytime it's used.

92 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 4:03:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 formercorpsman

Having now 18 years in medicine, there will never be anyway to enforce it.

You can't imagine how many people are totally clueless about that law.

They actually get angry when you ask for a release authorization.

Many actually think it is the medical provider doing it, and would never dream it is federal law.

I deal with it as a teacher--we have to be very careful to protect student confidentiality.

93 rawmuse  6/26/08 4:03:50 pm reply quote 1

Well, slap me up side the head.
SFGATE published my comment on its front page

"The fact that we even had to have a ruling on this is indicative of how far off the Constitutional rails we have gone. Which of the other amendments will be posited as collective but not individual? The first? The fourth? ”

I post there under a slightly different nic.

94 Dustyvet  6/26/08 4:09:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #17 Ben Hur

How long has his "hunger strike" been going on for?

Too Long!

95 Russkilitlover  6/26/08 4:11:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #90 Silhouette

Someone must have handed Obama a pocket Constitution.

Can't you just see him reading it?

Why does he need to read the Constitution? He's all about CHANGE!

96 formercorpsman  6/26/08 4:11:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #84 jcm

I salivate for the day when we finally go over to EMR.

We have connectivity to the hospitals with respect to the test result, and documents such as operative reports. What is really sweet, is PACS.

Having the ability to just get on the net, log in, and actually see an x-ray without having to travel to the hospital is killer.

I love the technology.

97 Dustyvet  6/26/08 4:12:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #89 pat

Obama drives that bus like a drunk through an obstacle course.

The Bus, as seen by Jawa...


[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

98 SasquatchOnSteroids  6/26/08 4:14:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #97 Dustyvet

The Bus, as seen by Jawa...


[Link:

99 jcm  6/26/08 4:18:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #96 formercorpsman

I salivate for the day when we finally go over to EMR.

We have connectivity to the hospitals with respect to the test result, and documents such as operative reports. What is really sweet, is PACS.

Having the ability to just get on the net, log in, and actually see an x-ray without having to travel to the hospital is killer.

I love the technology.

I've seen tablet PCs, RFID tags in patient bracelets, car giving walks in, taps a button and the patient file loads based on the RFID tag. Procedures are one tap and entered, all on a secured network. Change orders, and alerts propagate automatically.

100 EC Marm  6/26/08 4:18:47 pm reply quote 1

Not surprising to me:

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "Flabbergasted" NASA scientists said on Thursday that Martian soil appeared to contain the requirements to support life, although more work would be needed to prove it.

Scientists working on the Phoenix Mars Lander mission, which has already found ice on the planet, said preliminary analysis by the lander's instruments on a sample of soil scooped up by the spacecraft's robotic arm had shown it to be much more alkaline than expected.

"We basically have found what appears to be the requirements, the nutrients, to support life whether past present or future," Sam Kounaves, the lead investigator for the wet chemistry laboratory on Phoenix, told journalists. [Link: www.reuters.com...]


It's in the Bible, "worlds without end."
/ducks

101 Alouette  6/26/08 4:19:11 pm reply quote 0

re: #66 ted

"The indictment offers few details..."

Don't need any...He's guilty.

Pity they don't use this anymore.

[Link: www.rochester.edu...]

They should use this.

It is still the most humane method of execution ever invented.

102 Dustyvet  6/26/08 4:20:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #98 SasquatchOnSteroids

Are those "whitewalls" ?

The HORROR !


Political Expediency Express!

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103 GeeWiz  6/26/08 4:21:04 pm reply quote 2

Charles, this may be worthy of a thread in itself do to the effort of the participants and their cause.

104 Silhouette  6/26/08 4:26:14 pm reply quote 0

re: #100 EC Marm

Eh, if it could support life, there'd be dandelions by now. Those suckers get everywhere.

105 BBev  6/26/08 4:28:35 pm reply quote 0

re: #104 Silhouette

Eh, if it could support life, there'd be dandelions by now. Those suckers get everywhere.

I was going to post that earlier but was waiting for an open thread. I say we send some seeds next time and see what happens!

106 EC Marm  6/26/08 4:30:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #104 Silhouette

Eh, if it could support life, there'd be dandelions by now. Those suckers get everywhere.


Hehehe, that's true. The ph is not so far off that with a little correction, crops would grow. It's probably just a temperature and oxygen thing.

107 jcm  6/26/08 4:33:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #106 EC Marm

Hehehe, that's true. The ph is not so far off that with a little correction, crops would grow. It's probably just a temperature and oxygen thing.

Atmospheric pressure: Earth at sea level, is 1 bar, Mars runs from 6-10 millibars. The top of Everest is 300 millibars.

108 lawhawk  6/26/08 4:34:16 pm reply quote 2

At some point the "unindicted coconspirator" label will be dropped.

Convicted coconspirator sounds much better.

109 The Shadow Do  6/26/08 4:35:18 pm reply quote 0

Test

110 The Shadow Do  6/26/08 4:35:36 pm reply quote 0

fail

111 rawmuse  6/26/08 4:37:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #107 jcm

The atmosphere on Mars went bye-bye at some point.
We know there once was one. You can see evidence of water erosion.

112 EC Marm  6/26/08 4:39:53 pm reply quote 0

re: #107 jcm

Atmospheric pressure: Earth at sea level, is 1 bar, Mars runs from 6-10 millibars. The top of Everest is 300 millibars.


Which wouldn't necessarily negate the ability of some crop to survive, right? Something is probably growing on Everest up to around the 10,000 foot level, I would guess.

113 Silhouette  6/26/08 4:41:18 pm reply quote 1

re: #106 EC Marm

Hehehe, that's true. The ph is not so far off that with a little correction, crops would grow. It's probably just a temperature and

oxygen

thing.

Since plants need CO2, maybe we could ship Al Gore's excess carbon emissions to Mars. Then the plants would make oxygen which we could ship back for Al Gore to use up.

114 goddessoftheclassroom  6/26/08 4:41:45 pm reply quote 2

re: #103 GeeWiz

Charles, this may be worthy of a thread in itself do to the effort of the participants and their cause.

I just placed my order.

115 EC Marm  6/26/08 4:45:07 pm reply quote 1

re: #113 Silhouette

Since plants need CO2, maybe we could ship Al Gore's excess carbon emissions to Mars. Then the plants would make oxygen which we could ship back for Al Gore to use up.

If there is ice on Mars, then there must be water. If the composition of water is two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen, then there is oxygen on Mars. We now know there is water, and oxygen, and potable soil. Let's fire that sucker back up again.

116 Silhouette  6/26/08 4:49:16 pm reply quote 0

re: #115 EC Marm

Why do I hear the School House Rock song, Elbow Room?

118 GeeWiz  6/26/08 4:51:06 pm reply quote 0

re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you GOC! I find it hard to believe that this telethon has not garnered much support here. I was so happy to place my order for my squad support "care package". I thought that many here would feel the same. I am sorry to say that maybe, just maybe, words are one thing but monetary support is another. I, for one, put my money where my mouth resides.

119 Pigtown Water Dog  6/26/08 4:51:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #114 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks, Gee Whiz and goddess!

Support our troops!

Updings for both of you.

120 RTLM  6/26/08 4:53:16 pm reply quote 0

OT -

Libtard POS Keith Olbermann performs a graceful head-up-the-ass contortion on Obama's (current) support o