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 RetweetTech Note: Flippy Triangle Style

Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:50:17 pm PDT

You may have noticed that I've organized the stuff in our left sidebar with a series of "accordion" menus; some call this style the Flippy Triangle, since a little triangle indicates whether the menu is currently expanded or not, by ... flipping, believe it or not.

Here's the technique I'm using to create those Javascript-driven menus; you might be surprised by how little code it takes, with the assistance of the excellent Javascript library jQuery. I'll assume you already have jQuery installed and get right into the code.

The HTML for the menus is very simple: a paragraph containing a link at the top (the "trigger" for the menu), and a DIV containing a series of links to the items in the menu. In the CSS file, the class "slider" is set to "display: none" so that the DIVs underneath the triggers are hidden by default. Here's a simplified version of the HTML:

Now for the jQuery magic. Most jQuery-related applications use the $(document).ready function to install Javascript event handlers, and that's how we attach the Flippy Triangle code to the triggers, to show or hide their associated content.

And that, my coding friends, is that. Really. That's the whole thing, except for some details about styling the various elements with CSS (colors, spacing, etc.).

Without going through it line by line, that little bit of code first finds all A tags with a class of "flippy" and attaches an anonymous function to their click events. The click handler gets the text of the trigger (e.g., "&#x25BA LGF Hits"), then does a quick DOM traversal to find the next DIV with a class of "slider." If that DIV is hidden, it's displayed with a "slideDown" effect; if it's visible, it slides up and disappears. Before hiding/showing the DIV, the flippy triangle character is flipped. Finally, the click handler returns a value of FALSE, so the trigger link doesn't do anything embarrassing or annoying.

One little gotcha is that the character entities '►' and '▼' (which look like ► and ▼) are treated by Javascript as one character, not eight. That's why the code that gets the trigger text uses "substr(1)" instead of "substr(8)".

jQuery is the cat's pajamas.

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1 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:51:47pm

The triangles are flipping us off?

2 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:54:01pm

I thought that they were twistees?

We have a new rotating title

Those Jaunty Young Men And Their Flippy Twistee Triangles

3 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:56:07pm

Big Triangle is ripping us off!

Charles, a feature that would be nice is a "flag icon" that you can see when you click on a user's football based upon IP showing their country.

/ducks, runs for cover

4 Archimedes  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:56:15pm

For politicians who "change" their minds we can dub them flip-flop triangles.

5 Charles  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:56:28pm

Oh, and one more thing -- the contact form now uses Ajax to send the email so it's quicker and doesn't reload the page.

6 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:56:57pm

Flippy triangles have character!

7 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:57:30pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

The triangles are flipping us off?

How RUDE, Charles!

8 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:58:05pm

I just tried all the flippy triangles, they work great. Thanks

9 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:59:01pm

Update on this story...

Manslaughter charge filed in fire pit death
Prosecutors say dad's negligence proved fatal.

King County prosecutors charged a Federal Way father Friday with second-degree manslaughter, saying the man's negligence caused the death of his 7-month-old son, who was found June 21 in a backyard fire pit.

Alberto Chacon Rios, 38, fell asleep within a few feet of a burning fire pit that night with his baby, Diego Rios-Santana, lying on Rios' chest, only to wake up later to find the infant face up in the pit, according to court documents filed Friday.

The county Medical Examiner's Office classified the death as homicide, which includes manslaughter. The office said the baby died from smoke inhalation and burns covering 100 percent of his body

The "pit" was just a hole in ground, not anything with walls or a screen.

10 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:59:08pm

re: #8 Thanos

I just tried all the flippy triangles, they work great. Thanks

I did that too! Click. Click. It was fun.

11 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:59:17pm

re: #5 Charles

Oh, and one more thing -- the contact form now uses Ajax to send the email so it's quicker and doesn't reload the page.

And it's much cleaner too!

12 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 5:59:47pm

re: #6 jcm

Flippy triangles have character!

It must have been a long day here. In trying to twist that around, my mind's drawing a blank.

13 sadhu  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:00:04pm
14 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:00:27pm
On his final full day at Microsoft Corp., Bill Gates went on stage to reminisce with his longtime friend Steve Ballmer, and neither man could hold back tears as Ballmer handed Gates a large scrapbook as a farewell present.

Gates, who is stepping back to focus on his philanthropy, sat with CEO Ballmer in a Microsoft conference room and meandered through moments in Microsoft's history. They stopped to get in a few good digs at IBM Corp., whose first personal computers were loaded with Microsoft's DOS operating system before IBM adopted its own operating software and their relations strained.

15 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:01:06pm

re: #11 NJDhockeyfan

And it's much cleaner too!

But abrasive.

16 Shug  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:01:30pm

I could no more flip off that triangle than I could flip off my own white grandmother


a Friday night haiku

Flippy Triangles
They don't excite me at all
But Charles thinks they're cool

17 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:01:46pm

re: #9 jcm

That's the most horrible thing I've read in a while.

18 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:01:49pm

are they as good as trippy friangles?

19 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:02:21pm

Charles, and others interested. I think I've finally burned several brain cells over the years on fusion and free jazz. I find myself going back classical, but I have a renewed interest but not a lot of knowledge in acoustic guitar virtousos. Long ago I listened to Michael Hedges, and of course Paco de Lucia, but my taste for a long time have been narrowed to the aforementioned less tame genres. I enjoy some of the alternate tuning guys and i know from time to time Charles features some pretty talented folk, but I forget the names. Charles, if you and the lizards could share some of your knowledge with me I'd greatly appreciated. oh. i hate mainstream...surprise me! I'm an unapologetic music snob. Thanks in advance.

20 Shug  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:03:38pm

Frippy Triangles

/Chinese guy

21 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:04:57pm

re: #9 jcm

when i first read that horrible story i thought--do 7 month old babies crawl? how did it get into the pit?

22 barney15e  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:05:37pm

Why do I have to click twice to get the first one to flip?

23 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:05:46pm

re: #9 jcm

Was manslaughter all they could come up with? 7-month-olds don't just get up and walk.

24 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:06:03pm

re: #16 Shug

Oooo! Haikus...

Flippy Triangles
LGF Evolution
To the DI's bane.

25 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:06:14pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

That's the most horrible thing I've read in a while.

Tis that surely.

26 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:07:23pm

re: #23 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Was manslaughter all they could come up with? 7-month-olds don't just get up and walk.

The pit was a hole in the yard, kid could of rolled or crawled into it. Nothing to keep kids out, nothing at all.

27 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:07:33pm

Why must you bring up tech issues here time and time again Charles, when there are so many more pressing matters that we should be focusing on. It only serves to drive a divisional wedge into the Lizard community, and has nothing to do with the dangers we face as a nation.

I am a long time reader of LGF, but I am disappointed in the direction this blog has taken. Now it just seems to be a bigoted echo chamber for bashing us computer illiterate luddites. I also take issue with your obviously snarky headline, just what are these triangles supposed to be flipping. I think I know the answer, and you've obviously tipped your hand.

If you continue to shove these tech threads down the throats of your readers you are going to lose the zillions and zillions of non-techie allies that would otherwise be on your side in this battle.

Why can't we go back to focusing on the subject that this blog used to be about, and drop this current trend of bashing luddites? I implore you, Charles, to return to what this blog used to be about: Cycling!

///of course

28 EC Marm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:07:39pm

This empty echo chamber of Javascript bashing is getting tedious.

/ kidding. I love the Top 10 comments feature by the way.

29 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:08:04pm

re: #25 jcm

Tis that surely.


Ok, now the evil thought. Anybody know the father's immigration status?

30 barney15e  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:08:09pm

#14

and neither man could hold back tears as Ballmer handed Gates a large scrapbook as a farewell present

It must have been made with iPhoto.

31 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:08:42pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

ROTF!

32 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:08:45pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

Could you pine for something that used to be sophisticated?

33 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:09:56pm

re: #32 jaunte

DRINK!

34 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:10:01pm

re: #26 jcm

Ah.

The child is with God. I will bite my tongue regarding the father's soul.

/not my place or privilege

35 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:10:30pm

re: #33 Sharmuta

High five!

36 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:10:47pm

re: #29 opnion

Ok, now the evil thought. Anybody know the father's immigration status?

Funny you should ask...

Prosecutors requested that Rios, who also goes by Calderon Mardonio Martinez, continue to be held with bail set at $1 million. They called him a significant flight risk, noting that he is in the country illegally and has been deported three times to Mexico. If freed on bail, prosecutors said, Rios would likely be deported a fourth time, "making it extremely difficult, if not impossible," to prosecute him for the death of his son.
37 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:10:58pm

re: #32 jaunte

No, but I could oak for something that used to be pine. Would that help?

/i need another beer

38 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:11:32pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

ROFLMAO
(DAMMIT, only one uptick allowed!)

39 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:11:54pm

You know I live in Missouri and with all the flooding and stuff I have yet to read of one story of looting, pillaging or people not getting out of the way of the water.

Just stories of people pulling together and sandbagging to stop the floods.

I am very proud of my part of the country right now!

40 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:12:51pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

Why must you bring up tech issues here time and time again Charles, when there are so many more pressing matters that we should be focusing on. It only serves to drive a divisional wedge into the Lizard community, and has nothing to do with the dangers we face as a nation.

I am a long time reader of LGF, but I am disappointed in the direction this blog has taken. Now it just seems to be a bigoted echo chamber for bashing us computer illiterate luddites. I also take issue with your obviously snarky headline, just what are these triangles supposed to be flipping. I think I know the answer, and you've obviously tipped your hand.

If you continue to shove these tech threads down the throats of your readers you are going to lose the zillions and zillions of non-techie allies that would otherwise be on your side in this battle.

Why can't we go back to focusing on the subject that this blog used to be about, and drop this current trend of bashing luddites? I implore you, Charles, to return to what this blog used to be about: Cycling!

///of course

Luddites Unite!

41 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:13:24pm

re: #39 Typicalwhitey

You know I live in Missouri and with all the flooding and stuff I have yet to read of one story of looting, pillaging or people not getting out of the way of the water.

Just stories of people pulling together and sandbagging to stop the floods.

I am very proud of my part of the country right now!

Better start if you want news coverage of how desperate you are...

42 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:13:27pm

re: #36 jcm


I take no satisfaction in this, but I kidnda knew.

43 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:13:35pm

"One little gotcha is that the character entities '►' and '&#x25BC...etc...etc..."
Yeah, sure, got that...won't be a problem.

Thank God it's Friday.
Going surfing.

44 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:13:51pm

re: #9 jcm

Update on this story...

Manslaughter charge filed in fire pit death
Prosecutors say dad's negligence proved fatal.


The "pit" was just a hole in ground, not anything with walls or a screen.

Three-six beers my ass. He likely was passed-out drunk. Where was the mother?

45 EC Marm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:14:08pm

re: #39 Typicalwhitey
Did you see Iowahawk on that very same topic? He does not agree.

46 MadJadBad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:14:45pm

It's interesting to see how different widgets are coded. I work in IT and want to get into web server coding. What do you think are the top five languages or tools is should know?

47 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:14:45pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

ROFLMAO!

48 Charles  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:14:49pm

OK, cycling -- I ended up getting last year's Schwinn Voyageur for 'round-town errands. Good enough that it doesn't feel crummy to ride, but inexpensive enough that it won't kill me if somebody steals it when I'm not watching. A jump on and ride bike.

Doing my bit to flip the triangle at the Saudis.

With a Kryptonite lock and a roomy backpack that holds a laptop.

49 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:15:00pm

re: #43 IslandLibertarian

"One little gotcha is that the character entities '►' and '&#x25BC...etc...etc..."
Yeah, sure, got that...won't be a problem.

Thank God it's Friday.
Going surfing.

All this #%$&!& cursing is very offensive!

50 calvin coolidge  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:15:37pm

This is flipping my TRS-80 Tandy Color Computer out.

51 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:15:45pm

re: #39 Typicalwhitey

that's the difference between children of the field and children of handouts...

52 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:16:20pm

Haiku for jaunte:

False Dichotomy
the devil's in the details
sophisticated.

53 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:17:23pm

re: #48 Charles

Doing my bit to flip the triangle at the Saudis.

Rotating title!

54 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:17:40pm

re: #50 calvin coolidge

This is flipping my TRS-80 Tandy Color Computer out.

Braggart!
(Timex-Sinclair owner)

55 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:17:48pm

re: #19 paxnhymn

Here you go... the extraordianry beauty of guitarist, Bill Frisell.

56 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:18:05pm

re: #39 Typicalwhitey

You know I live in Missouri and with all the flooding and stuff I have yet to read of one story of looting, pillaging or people not getting out of the way of the water.

Just stories of people pulling together and sandbagging to stop the floods.

I am very proud of my part of the country right now!

I was there on a business trip during the 100 year flood about 14 years ago.
The people were incredible. They did not whine or ask for anything.
They made me so proud to be from the Midwest.

57 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:18:18pm

HUh?
/n

58 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:18:43pm

re: #44 MandyManners

Three-six beers my ass. He likely was passed-out drunk. Where was the mother?

Whole family had been partying. Likely every one was comatose.

While I have a beer in the evenings, A beer is it. I don't drink enough to get drunk at anytime anyway.

However I don't want to have to deal with something that comes up with the kids late one night while drunk. What would I do if I needed to make a quick trip to the ER for something, and I'm drunk?

The whole lot of 'em should have charges filed.

59 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:18:50pm

re: #50 calvin coolidge

This is flipping my TRS-80 Tandy Color Computer out.

My high school had a few of those. All I knerw how to do was type something in and make it repeat itself. I used to go into Radio Shack and play with them there also.

60 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:18:53pm

Whoa! Something weird just happened. I am seeing a lot of characters all over the page: "n"

Refresh.

61 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:19:09pm

What are all those /n's ...or have I finally gone round the bend?

62 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:19:17pm

re: #52 Sharmuta

Elegant and succinct!

63 Charles  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:19:40pm

Characters? What characters?

Just a little experiment. All is back to normal now.

64 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:19:46pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

What was that? n n n

65 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:20:20pm

I was watching Nugent talk, and suddenly his initial was running wild.

66 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:20:30pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

HUh?
/n

Refresh makes it go away, it was there a bit for me as well. I figured someone had crafted a novel way to roger a thread.

67 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:20:40pm

re: #63 Charles

Characters? What characters?

Just a little experiment. All is back to normal now.

Do it again, I missed it.

68 Shug  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:20:41pm

jQuery magic
gets a jQuery guy laid
Using slight of hand

69 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:20:58pm

re: #58 jcm

The whole lot of 'em

Hear hear!

70 tedzilla99  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:21:29pm

what about the bees knees?

71 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:21:33pm

re: #58 jcm

Whole family had been partying. Likely every one was comatose.

While I have a beer in the evenings, A beer is it. I don't drink enough to get drunk at anytime anyway.

However I don't want to have to deal with something that comes up with the kids late one night while drunk. What would I do if I needed to make a quick trip to the ER for something, and I'm drunk?

The whole lot of 'em should have charges filed.

Yes, she should be charged, too.

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:21:51pm

Charles is experimenting on us?! Yikes!

73 barney15e  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:10pm

re: #46 MadJadBad
You should learn to curse in Tagalog, unless of course your children speak it.

74 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:12pm

re: #61 wolfie

What are all those /n's ...or have I finally gone round the bend?

No , you are fine. The Lightworker Obama is in control. Resistance is futile.

75 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:18pm

re: #67 IslandLibertarian

since mandy isn't here--SMACK!

76 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:25pm

re: #70 tedzilla99

what about the bees knees?

They haven't evolved yet.

77 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:31pm

re: #55 Kenneth

Here you go... the extraordianry beauty of guitarist, Bill Frisell.


acoustic my brother. I've got a boatload of electric giants and I'm a Holdsworth fanatic, but I have little in the way of acoustic.

78 Charles  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:34pm

I admit it. I was double-escaping line feeds.

79 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:22:40pm

Does anyone remember/know who played the male lead in Gaslight?
(Not that I'm accusing anyone of trying to drive us crazy or anything. I mean, the movie just popped into my head completely out of the blue.

80 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:23:32pm

re: #75 mikeymom

It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it!

81 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:23:36pm

re: #64 jaunte

The tech code expression of a fnord!

Halp!

82 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:23:51pm

re: #78 Charles

that sounds dirty-like

83 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:23:53pm
84 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:24:25pm

re: #81 Slumbering Behemoth

I saw the repression inherent in the system!

85 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:24:33pm

re: #79 wolfie

Does anyone remember/know who played the male lead in Gaslight?
(Not that I'm accusing anyone of trying to drive us crazy or anything. I mean, the movie just popped into my head completely out of the blue.

Pee Wee Herman. The man should have gotten the Oscar!

86 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:24:48pm

I think Zombie knows this guy

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

87 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:24:48pm

re: #80 wolfie

i got a tingle actually

88 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:25:01pm

re: #75 mikeymom

since mandy isn't here--SMACK!

smack = hit?
smack = heroin?
smack = kiss?

I'll take two out of three.

89 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:25:06pm

re: #72 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Charles is experimenting on us?! Yikes!

As long as he leaves the anal probes alone...

90 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:25:17pm

re: #78 Charles

I admit it. I was double-escaping line feeds.

Line Feeds Escaping!

Weapons Free, they won't escape us this time!

91 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:25:42pm

re: #77 paxnhymn

Frisell plays acoustic, but he does use lots of effects sometimes, blending jazz, bluegrass and folk genres. There are better virtuosos, but Frisell is uniquely creative.

92 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:25:55pm

re: #78 Charles

I admit it. I was double-escaping line feeds.

If you'd already escaped, then why, or how, would you need to escape again? Sounds like the feeding line still had you in its gri ... oh, LINE FEEDS? ... never mind

93 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:26:11pm

re: #75 mikeymom

since mandy isn't here--SMACK!

Hey! I missed the experiment and was about to ditto IL.

94 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:08pm

re: #78 Charles

I admit it. I was double-escaping line feeds.

There you go again. It's like you didn't even read my #27. *sigh*

//

95 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:10pm

opps-mandy is here- smack IL for me--i dint do it with your finesse--

96 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:13pm

re: #89 MandyManners

YIKES!...nobody told me about those before i signed up...

97 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:17pm

The escapist line forms to the left.

98 Geepers  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:24pm

wolfie (#79),

Does anyone remember/know who played the male lead in Gaslight?
(Not that I'm accusing anyone of trying to drive us crazy or anything. I mean, the movie just popped into my head completely out of the blue.

Remember? LOL.

Anton Walbrook

99 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:33pm

re: #89 MandyManners

It is Friday night, and Gay Pride Weekend in Toronto, but I don't think this is the LGF anal probe thread.

At least I hope not.

100 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:36pm

Line Feeds Escaping
Very Sophisticated
(That's tonight's DRINK word)

101 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:27:51pm

re: #39 Typicalwhitey

You know I live in Missouri and with all the flooding and stuff I have yet to read of one story of looting, pillaging or people not getting out of the way of the water.

Just stories of people pulling together and sandbagging to stop the floods.

I am very proud of my part of the country right now!

I heard you guys in Missouri have the right ammo for the looters.

102 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:28:10pm
103 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:28:17pm

good evening mandy..
the lounge is quiet

104 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:28:18pm

re: #85 opnion

Pee Wee Herman. The man should have gotten the Oscar!

:O

105 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:28:19pm

Your way out of my league Charles, all I have to worry about is network stuff, rarely requiring scripts, but a good knowledge of C/S apps and Windows operating systems and Active/Directory. The fact that you do the technical stuff, much less your blog successes like the 60 minutes fraudulent document expose has left a permanent mark on American History. Great job, Charles.

106 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:28:44pm

re: #89 MandyManners

As long as he leaves the anal probes alone...

th' WHAT?!?

/shrieks, runs for the door

107 itellu3times  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:28:54pm

hey you didn't lock the textboxes in the thread header

108 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:29:10pm

re: #89 MandyManners

As long as he leaves the anal probes alone...

Mandy, that's just funny!

109 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:29:15pm

re: #105 loflyer

yeah--what you said!/

110 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:29:59pm

re: #100 Sharmuta

Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated!

//I need to go to the store, quick!

111 Lightworker  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:30:00pm

re: #74 opnion

Yes

112 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:30:45pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

casnt keip Pup

113 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:30:55pm

re: #97 Thanos

The escapist line forms to the left.

How do I get there?
I've lost my way.
Should I try Hare Krishna?

/Muppet fan

114 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:31:14pm

re: #98 Geepers

wolfie (#79),


Remember? LOL.

Anton Walbrook

No, no, no!
Actually, he looks like he'd be better in the role than Charles Boyer.

115 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:31:37pm

speaking of anal probes-just made an aappt for a colonoscopy inn aug-after the prep, i will be peeing from my butt--sigh

116 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:31:45pm

P.S. Ringo rules!

117 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:32:02pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated! Sophisticated!

//I need to go to the store, quick!

hahahaha
707

118 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:32:34pm

re: #111 Lightworker

Yes

Funny nic!

119 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:32:48pm

re: #115 mikeymom

speaking of anal probes-just made an aappt for a colonoscopy inn aug-after the prep, i will be peeing from my butt--sigh

For gawds sakes! WHO needs to be smacked?

120 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:32:55pm

re: #111 Lightworker

Yes


Love your nic and avatar. My next nic will be "El-Kabong!"

/some cartoon character from my youth...

121 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:33:33pm

re: #115 mikeymom

speaking of anal probes-just made an aappt for a colonoscopy inn aug-after the prep, i will be peeing from my butt--sigh

I started mine early, Mom died of colon cancer. The drugs they use, made me sicker than a dog. I'd never make it as drug addict.

122 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:33:42pm

re: #119 IslandLibertarian

you are right--TMI--just wanted to share my pain

123 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:33:49pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

P.S. Ringo rules!

mainstream music is an insult to the senses. The Beatles ...(shuddder)

124 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:34:17pm

re: #115 mikeymom

July 18th. My doc has a lovely prep - for him.

125 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:34:47pm

re: #120 loflyer

Love your nic and avatar. My next nic will be "El-Kabong!"

/some cartoon character from my youth...

too bad youth is wasted on the young..
( h/t fill in the blank)

126 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:35:03pm

re: #121 jcm

rhe prep is horrible- i will welcome the drugs--revel in the unconsciousness

127 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:36:13pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Back!
Back!
Get back in your cage!

/just for you (-:

128 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:36:52pm

All kidding aside, the procedure is painless. I'm a veteran of 3 scopes.
But the purge/prep can be sketchy. Stay home.

129 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:37:22pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

P.S. Ringo rules!

Ah- poor Ringo.

130 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:37:48pm

re: #115 mikeymom

speaking of anal probes-just made an aappt for a colonoscopy inn aug-after the prep, i will be peeing from my butt--sigh

I just had the Prostate exam. I asked the doctor, "How did it feel waking up this morning knowing that you were going to stick your finger up my butt?
Guy had a sense of humor.

131 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:38:14pm

re: #129 Sharmuta

Wow. I haven't seen that in ages.

132 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:38:18pm

re: #126 mikeymom

rhe prep is horrible- i will welcome the drugs--revel in the unconsciousness

I'll tolerate a lot just avoid the drugs, I was sick well into the day after the procedure. I did my root canals with a local, just to avoid the after effects of the drugs.

133 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:38:49pm

re: #128 IslandLibertarian

i once had an endoscopy and colon thingy on the same day--20 yrs ago and still remember--sigh--and this one is 1 week after my first sons wedding on aug 1--wow are we gonna partay!

134 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:39:22pm

re: #123 paxnhymn

mainstream music is an insult to the senses. The Beatles ...(shuddder)

I beg to differ...

Ringo Starr,

Photograph!

/you must be bored...

135 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:39:32pm

re: #120 loflyer

Kabong!

136 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:40:24pm

United canceled a flight from Salt Lake City Thursday afternoon after the pilot announced to passengers that he was too upset to fly, according to one passenger on board.

The pilot, who may have been involved in a labor-related dispute with colleagues, said that he didn't feel he could fly safely, said Paul Jacobson, an energy company executive who was aboard United Flight 416 to Denver.

SNIP

"I'm roughly paraphrasing here, but the pilot came on the PA and said, 'some of you may have witnessed an incident I was involved in at the gate. I'm not going to go into the details, but it was an interpersonal confrontation that upset me significantly to the point where I'm not focused enough to fly you to Denver. I feel like I may not be calmed and focused enough to fly to Denver for another hour,' " Jacobson said.

SNIP

Jacobson said another passenger questioned the crew and that passenger told him the incident stemmed from crewmembers from another United flight observing the pilot wearing his hat. United's pilots union has been urging pilots to remove their hats when they "are likely to be viewed by management," as a form of protest, according to a notice on ALPA's website.

SNIP

137 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:41:21pm

re: #123 paxnhymn

mainstream music is an insult to the senses. The Beatles ...(shuddder)

We can't even get Julian Bream or John Williams on the music threads here. Disgusting!

138 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:42:02pm

re: #136 MandyManners

didnt this happen a while ago? IIRC

139 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:42:24pm

re: #79 wolfie

Does anyone remember/know who played the male lead in Gaslight?
(Not that I'm accusing anyone of trying to drive us crazy or anything. I mean, the movie just popped into my head completely out of the blue.

Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman (1944 version).

140 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:42:44pm

The last time that I was on my deck having a cigar and a refreshing adult beverage, it was about the best stupid comedy movies,on a Friday night.
The best thread ever. Was anybody else on that?

141 phil  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:42:55pm

This new menu code does not seem to be working in IE7.

142 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:43:26pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

I met the actor who played the Producer- he's also in "Help!".

143 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:43:58pm

re: #141 phil

This new menu code does not seem to be working in IE7.

Clear your cache!
Refresh!

144 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:44:14pm

re: #139 CIA Reject

Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman (1944 version).

Thank you !

145 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:44:45pm

re: #140 opnion

wanna do a stupid movie thread? the crawling eye? attack of the monster crab?

146 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:45:04pm

re: #139 CIA Reject

Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman (1944 version).

Well, actually Ingrid Bergman was the female lead...

147 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:45:25pm

not of this earth?

148 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:45:41pm

re: #145 mikeymom

wanna do a stupid movie thread? the crawling eye? attack of the monster crab?

Hey,'Killer Clowns From outer Space."

149 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:46:39pm

re: #144 wolfie

Thank you !

You're welcome!

150 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:47:51pm

re: #148 opnion

my hubby of 40 yrs--sigh--loves these-mever heard of that one--on our honeymoon--after we took care of bidness--made me watch the tingler--

151 phil  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:47:54pm

re: #143 jcm

Clear your cache!
Refresh!

Clearing cache and then restarting IE7 did nothing to resolve the issue. Can anyone confirm that the new menu code works properly in IE7?

-phil

152 Charles  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:48:06pm

re: #141 phil

This new menu code does not seem to be working in IE7.

I tested it with IE7 and as far as I can tell, there's no problem. Try clearing your browser cache.

153 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:48:08pm

re: #137 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We can't even get Julian Bream or John Williams on the music threads here. Disgusting!

there's some good new talent though...Hillary Hahn is lucious on the violin...

154 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:48:27pm

re: #19 paxnhymn

I only remember one, Tommy Emmanuel because he is coming here to the Queen City of the West on Sept. 15th and 16th.

/Tooting my own horn. Toot!
/Lurking

155 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:48:35pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

Kabong!

The story of my life, much thanks!

156 Charles  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:06pm

re: #151 phil

I have it open and working in IE7 at this very moment...

157 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:08pm

ohhh-charles is talking sexy again--big sigh

158 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:10pm

re: #151 phil

Clearing cache and then restarting IE7 did nothing to resolve the issue. Can anyone confirm that the new menu code works properly in IE7?

-phil

You're holding your mouth wrong.

/arcane talk radio reference.

159 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:16pm

re: #51 paxnhymn


Whole different world and a whole different mentality.

I wonder why no one is noticing it?

160 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:31pm

best stupid comedy movies

Wasn't there, but my contribution today.

Power to the Correct People!
(Even the blasphemers.)

161 ciaospirit  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:31pm

I love it when Americans don't wait on the government to save them.

WINFIELD, Mo. - A heroic effort by hundreds of townspeople, volunteers and National Guardsmen to hold back the Mississippi River failed Friday — undone by a burrowing muskrat.

The furry rodent dug a hole through the earthen levee in this eastern Missouri community, allowing water to penetrate the floodwall, which failed shortly before dawn.

"It's so disappointing," said Linda Wilmesherr as she peered through binoculars at water pouring through a gap that appeared to be 30 feet wide. "With all the guns in this county, couldn't we kill a muskrat?"

But within hours, defiant residents were mounting a new defense — a quickly constructed 4-foot-tall sandbag levee to protect 100 homes in the floodwaters' path.

162 phil  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:32pm

re: #152 Charles

Ok, time to put on my troubleshooting hat. Stay tuned...

-phil

163 bryantms  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:49:59pm

re: #156 Charles

Just tried it out and it works in IE7 for me too.

164 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:50:40pm

Is it me, or does Firefox just work a heck of lot better than Internet Explorer?

165 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:50:53pm

Bette Davis movies!
My mother subjected me & my daughters to a Bette marathon once.
Truth be told, we all loved it!

166 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:50:56pm

re: #148 opnion

Hey,'Killer Clowns From outer Space."

Dark Star

/"Funny, I thought I had the damned thing convinced..."

167 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:51:07pm

re: #150 mikeymom

my hubby of 40 yrs--sigh--loves these-mever heard of that one--on our honeymoon--after we took care of bidness--made me watch the tingler--


Actually the thread went to movies like the Jerk, Dumb & Dumber, Young Franenstien or do you say Frankensteen?

168 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:51:32pm

re: #153 paxnhymn

(-:
I was trying to tweak Charles (probably without success)

169 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:51:59pm

re: #164 loflyer

Is it me, or does Firefox just work a heck of lot better than Internet Explorer?

I have had issues with Firefox since "upgrading" to FF3, so now I've moved to safari and I like it. It even imported all my bookmarks from FF. That's sophisticated service in a browser.

170 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:52:26pm

re: #161 ciaospirit

i know i will get in trouble for connecting the dots here to katrina victims--so i wont--but BOY DO I WANNA

171 Lightworker  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:52:28pm

re: #120 loflyer

Dept. of Misguidance for you.

172 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:52:50pm

LOL, just wading thru my favorites, reorganizing it.
You can forget what you have in there.

The King of Speed.

Bow to your Master. I love this story.

173 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:53:28pm

re: #50 calvin coolidge

This is flipping my TRS-80 Tandy Color Computer out.

CoCo1, CoCo2, or CoCo3? And with, or without, the floppy interface cartridge, or the multipack interface?

174 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:53:34pm

re: #159 Typicalwhitey

Whole different world and a whole different mentality.

I wonder why no one is noticing it?

because to do that would be to admit that the Great Society was a collosal failure and has lead to the demise of our society. And that would prove socialism doesn't work, andyou know they would NEVER admit that!

175 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:53:48pm

re: #162 phil

Ok, time to put on my troubleshooting hat. Stay tuned...

-phil


Good luck.. I have issues with Oracle 11i and IE7..
IE7 is a hassle..
Nice code charles

176 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:53:48pm

re: #170 mikeymom

There's a reason that iowa is iowa and louisiana is... well... louisiana.

177 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:54:30pm

re: #167 opnion

i have never seen the austin powers trilogy--son go it for mikedad for dads day--we will watch it soon! /dont hit me

178 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:54:43pm

re: #169 Sharmuta

I have had issues with Firefox since "upgrading" to FF3, so now I've moved to safari and I like it. It even imported all my bookmarks from FF. That's sophisticated service in a browser.


Always open for a new game, should I search on Safari or do you have a link.
/feeling lazy...

179 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:55:22pm

re: #177 mikeymom

i have never seen the austin powers trilogy--son go it for mikedad for dads day--we will watch it soon! /dont hit me


It is outstanding!

180 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:55:33pm
181 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:55:48pm

re: #170 mikeymom

In one case you have victims, in the other you have knuckle-down and git 'er done Americans.

182 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:56:12pm

More rain going to hit us tonight.
I hope my crops will survive this.

183 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:56:24pm

re: #180 Crimsonfisted

A Mel Brooks thread? I'm IN!

Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup.

Don't be saucy with ME, Bearnaise!

High Anxiety! Yeah baby!

184 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:56:32pm

re: #176 Boondock St. Bender

thats what im trying not so say--toured iowa a few yrs ago on a road trip--lived the amana colonies--so much history

185 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:56:39pm

re: #178 loflyer

Here.

186 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:57:15pm

re: #182 Typicalwhitey

More rain going to hit us tonight.
I hope my crops will survive this.


I am really sorry

187 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:57:44pm

re: #182 Typicalwhitey

More rain going to hit us tonight.
I hope my crops will survive this.

So do we. Our prayers with you.

188 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:58:26pm

re: #138 mikeymom

didnt this happen a while ago? IIRC

It happened Thursday according to the report.

189 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:58:26pm

re: #184 mikeymom

thats what im trying not so say--toured iowa a few yrs ago on a road trip--lived the amana colonies--so much history


Well I will say it.

We pull ourselves up and then extend a hand to our neighbors out in my neck of the woods.
We don't sit around waiting on the gov'ment to show up and do it for us.

190 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:58:32pm

re: #182 Typicalwhitey

More rain going to hit us tonight.
I hope my crops will survive this.

We didn't get hit too bad in indiana.. I think we dodged the bullet..
best wishes
the hoopster

191 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:58:38pm

Good evening, Lizards!

192 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:58:38pm

re: #184 mikeymom

loved-i need another drink--and prayers going up for TW

193 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:59:08pm

re: #187 Crimsonfisted

So do we. Our prayers with you.


Thank you.
I am starting to get a little scared.
Talking on here is calming me down, so thanks.

194 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:59:28pm

ok--thanks mm

195 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 6:59:58pm

re: #193 Typicalwhitey

Thank you.
I am starting to get a little scared.
Talking on here is calming me down, so thanks.

{Typicalwhitey}

May I please add you and your neighbors to the Lizard Prayer List?

196 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:00:39pm

re: #182 Typicalwhitey

More rain going to hit us tonight.
I hope my crops will survive this.

I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers!

197 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:00:46pm

re: #191 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards!

good evening..

198 opnion  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:00:51pm

Good Night ya'll. You are the smartest, most entertaing people anywhere.
Lizarda rule!

199 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:01:19pm

re: #184 mikeymom

as was stated by S.B on 181,one group has a work ethic and feeling of community,the other a feeling of entitlement.it is what it is,plain for all to see.(granted both disasters were of a different scope,i'm sure wwe would see similar results if there roles wwere reversed.)

200 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:01:28pm

re: #195 goddessoftheclassroom


Thank you Goddess but if you have others more needy please get to them first.
You're an angel.

201 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:01:37pm

I'm not even going to try an ontopic comment.

We are here in The Woodlands, TX at the Texas Police Association annual conference. Anybody know where that is?

202 phil  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:01:43pm

re: #156 Charles

Ok, I made a dubious discovery in my attempts to resolve the issue. It seems that the menu functionality does not work only on the first loading of a page during a session. In other words, if I close IE7 and reopen it, the menu sections will not expand when I first enter the site. If I reload the page, the menu then functions properly.

I'm curious to see if this is reproducible on other machines.

-phil

203 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:01:53pm

re: #185 Sharmuta

Here.

Thanx! Trying to download now, doesn't seem especially windows friendly...

204 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:02:25pm

re: #54 rawmuse

Braggart!
(Timex-Sinclair owner)

I had one of those. Briefly. My folks picked it up for free for going to see some timeshare sales pitch... then, I'd barely got into playing with it and they sold it out from under me to a little old lady. :-/

205 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:02:26pm

re: #196 MandyManners

Thanks Mandy.

BTW I love your posts, your dry wit is wicked!

206 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:02:28pm

re: #201 theparson

Yes, I do.

207 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:02pm

re: #199 Boondock St. Bender

hmm...i seem to have a twwitchey w finger tonite.

208 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:14pm

re: #203 loflyer

Make sure you download the version for Windows. I had no issues when I did it- well... except I had to reboot my modem, but that was a separate issue.

209 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:24pm

re: #182 Typicalwhitey

Where you at, and waddya raise?

210 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:31pm

re: #206 jaunte

Pretty richy area for a small town country boy like me.

211 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:32pm

re: #195 goddessoftheclassroom

goddess have you heard from heumonectics (sp?) lately? she was dealing w/ elderly parents in co springs (shes in nm) we were gonna meet ip while she was house hunting here in co, but her parents are not doing well-i dont think she would mind if you put her and parents on general list

212 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:49pm

re: #201 theparson

I'm not even going to try an ontopic comment.

We are here in The Woodlands, TX at the Texas Police Association annual conference. Anybody know where that is?

yup..sure do..
exacly where i'd sent everybody from Gitmo to..
/you got judges there?

213 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:03:50pm

Good evening, Lizards.

Typicalwhitey, I'll be keeping you and your neighbors in my prayers as well.

214 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:04:18pm

re: #59 NJDhockeyfan

My high school had a few of those. All I knerw how to do was type something in and make it repeat itself. I used to go into Radio Shack and play with them there also.

I had three of them. A grey-cased coco one, a white-cased coco one (same case design as the original, but with nicer keys, and with the ROMs that would later go into the CoCo2), and then a CoCo3.

215 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:04:47pm

Lizard Prayer List 6/27/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Thanksgivings
loppyd: nephew with Type I Diabetes doing well
The Albatross: enough clients to cover medical expenses

Health issues:
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father undergoing treatment for colon cancer
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Jorline: father who has colon cancer
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Ma Sands: daughter dealing with postpartum issues
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
realwest: cancer; mom Type II diabetes
BBev: wife’s illness; recovering from surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Babbazee: ancillary health problems
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
EC Marm: wife is hurt
Lucius Septimius: mother
Storagemanager: copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:
Typicalwhitey: family & neighbors dealing with flooding
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health
SavageNation
Lucius Septimus: healing of hurts
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid:. Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq.
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:

Those dealing with the flooding in the Midwest
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Ezra Levant and Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

216 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:04:56pm

re: #210 theparson

Sometimes I go up there to see concerts, but i haven't done the full tour.

217 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:05:00pm

re: #212 HoosierHoops

TPA is not a judge association.

218 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:05:28pm

re: #191 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards!

ARF!

219 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:05:29pm

Dang, those flippy triangles (Top 10 Comments) sucked me right into another thread!

Computer programmers are so smart! (I should know, I married one!)

220 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:05:38pm

re: #215 goddessoftheclassroom

I'd like to update that, if you'd email me.

221 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:05:45pm

re: #205 Typicalwhitey

Thanks Mandy.

BTW I love your posts, your dry wit is wicked!

I have no doubt that Mandy could make a desert bloom. I have a lot of respect for Mandy's formidable language!

222 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:07:32pm

re: #221 loflyer

my fave? GO PISS UP A ROPE! (i've started to use that w/some family moonbats!)

223 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:07:57pm

re: #208 Sharmuta

Make sure you download the version for Windows. I had no issues when I did it- well... except I had to reboot my modem, but that was a separate issue.

I had to boot my madam too.
She was skimming a percentage of the take.

224 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:08:00pm

re: #215 goddessoftheclassroom

Could you please add my best friend to your list. She is terminally ill with COPD and doesn't have many days left.

225 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:08:50pm

re: #222 mikeymom

my fave? GO PISS UP A ROPE! (i've started to use that w/some family moonbats!)

? What the hell did I say?

226 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:08:59pm

re: #209 Noam Sayin'


In northern Missouri and we have cattle and soybeans.

227 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:09:01pm

re: #215 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you {goddess} for your continued prays for me.
/hope you are doing well :)

228 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:09:53pm

re: #217 theparson

TPA is not a judge association.

/ i'm play'n i know..but still if ya got to leave Gitmo..why not Texas? a logical stop-off point for your up and coming terrorists.

229 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:10:11pm

May have to get off soon, the lightning is getting really bad.
If I have to scoot quickly, have a great night all!

230 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:10:35pm

re: #201 theparson

If you have a chance to get downtown, go see the ballpark, it's pretty nice.

231 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:10:41pm

So on the home page, the little boxes to rate posts and the flippy triangle for the spinoff links doesn't show up for me until I click one of the flippy triangles in the sidebar. Refreshing doesn't fix it; neither does clearing the cache. (Firefox 3, if it helps...)

232 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:11:25pm

re: #213 Pvt Bin Jammin


Thanks!

233 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:11:41pm

re: #231 Fat Jolly Penguin

thats cause i heard charles doesnt like you--sooo sorry! /kidding

234 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:12:09pm

re: #224 Pvt Bin Jammin

Could you please add my best friend to your list. She is terminally ill with COPD and doesn't have many days left.

{Pvt Bin Jammin}
Done.

I am so sorry. I'm sure your love and friendship are a great comfort to her and her family.

235 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:12:10pm

re: #228 HoosierHoops

How is Texas a logical stop off point for terrorists? I think you are raising my cackles!

236 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:12:49pm

re: #226 Typicalwhitey

From what I'm seeing, you have an arc of storms coming through that will produce heavy rain and some wind, but doesn't appear to be devastating. For your sake, it should be slower moving, so you can take advantage of the rain, but it shouldn't hurt your crops. Of course, I'm not sure how much rain you've already received. Good luck. Soy beans are a hardy crop.

237 Truck Monkey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:13:06pm

Goddessoftheclassroom and other prayerful lizards. I would like a very special 11 year old put on your prayer list as well. His name is Brady and I am his football coach. He was recently diagnosed with a very aggressive form of brain cancer. Our community has really rallied around Brady and his family and have started to do some pretty amazing things for them. I just know that if there is a kid who can beat this it would be Brady. So please include him in your prayers.

238 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:13:28pm

what the heel are cackles, anyway? good? bad? should be surgically removed?

239 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:13:40pm

re: #235 theparson

I don't think there would be any terrorists around for long once they met you and the boys...

240 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:13:45pm

re: #235 theparson

People from out of state sometimes imagine we're all armed down here in Texas.

241 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:13:50pm

re: #224 Pvt Bin Jammin

Very sorry to hear that {PBJ}. :( I will say a prayer for her too.

242 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:13:57pm

re: #230 jaunte

Downtown Houston or The Woodlands?
We actually have a free day tomorrow and I had hoped to go to the Johnson Space Center but it looks more like Disney Land by what I'm seeing on line. I thought we might go to the coast or something.

243 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:14:10pm

re: #218 pre-Boomer Marine brat

ARF!

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

{pre-Boomer Marine brat}

MWAH!

244 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:14:34pm

Speaking of flippy... anyone remember flippy floppies? These were 5.25" single-sided floppies with two write-enable holes on either side, making them effectively two single-sided floppies in one disk. You'd pull it out of the floppy drive and... uh... flip it over and reinsert to access the other side. They were used in machines that used single-sided floppy-drives.

I used them all the time on my old CoCo...

245 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:14:57pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey

Tragic. He is in our prayers.

246 Da_Beerfreak  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:14:59pm

re: #145 mikeymom

wanna do a stupid movie thread? the crawling eye? attack of the monster crab?

Two of my favorite bad movies will always be,
Surf Nazis Must Die
and
Rabid Grannies.

On the other hand I liked
Evil Dead.

// {;-)™

247 phil  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:15:31pm

re: #231 Fat Jolly Penguin

I just tested in FF2 and FF3 and the result is exactly the same as IE7: the menu system does not work on the first page load in a new browser session. I need to reload the page and then the menus will work properly until the next broswer session. Perhaps, there's some code that is not properly initialized on first page load. I have no experience with jQuery, so I can't provide any better information.

-phil

248 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:15:37pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey

that is so tragic--fervent prayers going up

249 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:15:40pm

re: #234 goddessoftheclassroom
Thanks so much. She doesn't have much family, just some cousins in England and her husband who is out of town for a few days. It broke my heart to leave her awhile ago.

251 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:15:56pm

re: #240 jaunte

Well, it would be a good assumption here.

252 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:17:03pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey

Goddessoftheclassroom and other prayerful lizards. I would like a very special 11 year old put on your prayer list as well. His name is Brady and I am his football coach. He was recently diagnosed with a very aggressive form of brain cancer. Our community has really rallied around Brady and his family and have started to do some pretty amazing things for them. I just know that if there is a kid who can beat this it would be Brady. So please include him in your prayers.

{Truck Monkey}

Done.

253 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:17:30pm

re: #241 Suzette
Thanks, {Suzette}.

254 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:17:31pm

re: #242 theparson

You can actually make a daytrip out of looking around downtown, and then getting back onto 45 south to Galveston (about an hour drive). The Strand area (eastern downtown) is kind of like Charleston, SC, but smaller.
Space Center is marketing itself to kids like an amusement park, and the space interest is getting lost. You're right to pass it up.

255 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:17:39pm

re: #244 NomadOfNorad

Speaking of flippy... anyone remember flippy floppies? These were 5.25" single-sided floppies with two write-enable holes on either side, making them effectively two single-sided floppies in one disk. You'd pull it out of the floppy drive and... uh... flip it over and reinsert to access the other side. They were used in machines that used single-sided floppy-drives.

I used them all the time on my old CoCo...

Do you remember cards? Floppies were a quantum leap in capability. I just bought 6 terrabytes of DVD storage last week for fifty bucks. We've come a long way, baby!

256 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:17:52pm

re: #244 NomadOfNorad

Speaking of flippy... anyone remember flippy floppies? These were 5.25" single-sided floppies with two write-enable holes on either side, making them effectively two single-sided floppies in one disk. You'd pull it out of the floppy drive and... uh... flip it over and reinsert to access the other side. They were used in machines that used single-sided floppy-drives.

I used them all the time on my old CoCo...

5¼", youngun' try 8'.

257 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:18:31pm

Lizards, I've "blued" my nic, so please feel free to email with any prayer requests and/or updates.

258 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:18:51pm

re: #235 theparson

How is Texas a logical stop off point for terrorists? I think you are raising my cackles!


I'm so sorry parson.. i was just having fun..it seems that we can't do anything about detaining terrorists in the mddle of a war.. My son is the squad leader of the 3/5 marines, kilo company, 1st platoon..
I meant no offense.. we all just found out here Jordan will be deployed this Jan. details coming up

259 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:18:54pm

re: #243 goddessoftheclassroom

thed sonds lak an axe moron

(besides, one can get his ankle ripped to shreds for even suggesting the idea)

{goddess}
MWAH!

260 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:18:55pm

re: #254 jaunte

Very cool. Thanks.

261 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:18:57pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey

Goddessoftheclassroom and other prayerful lizards. I would like a very special 11 year old put on your prayer list as well. His name is Brady and I am his football coach. He was recently diagnosed with a very aggressive form of brain cancer. Our community has really rallied around Brady and his family and have started to do some pretty amazing things for them. I just know that if there is a kid who can beat this it would be Brady. So please include him in your prayers.

There was a very special, bright boy I knew on another forum last year, who after a serious illness that we thought he was getting over... died rather suddenly. It shook the forum up, a lot. And me.

He was only 12.

Yes, absolutely I will pray for Brady.

262 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:19:00pm

re: #246 Da_Beerfreak

Two of my favorite bad movies will always be,
Surf Nazis Must Die
...



Top Secret

/"Skeet Surfing" looked like good clean fun...

263 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:19:14pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey
That just breaks my heart. Brady will certainly be in my prayers.

264 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:19:19pm

re: #244 NomadOfNorad

Yes, I remember them. I used many of them playing the "Pool of Radiance" series on the C-64.

I laugh at the kids today who complain about the load times on modern video games.

265 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:19:46pm

re: #238 mikeymom

what the heel are cackles, anyway? good? bad? should be surgically removed?

Brain bleach is required. Cannot remove the cackles without it.

266 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:20:03pm

re: #244 NomadOfNorad

Yup. Still have my Apple ][ e.
Haven't turned it on for about 10 years!

Punch Cards!

267 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:20:25pm

re: #258 HoosierHoops

Thanks for explaining. I just couldn't understand your angle. Hope your son stays well and we are all proud of him. Semper Fi

268 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:20:36pm
269 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:20:46pm

re: #260 theparson

Welcome; have fun looking around!

270 Da_Beerfreak  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:20:53pm

re: #166 CIA Reject

Dark Star

/"Funny, I thought I had the damned thing convinced..."

The elevator scene is a classic when it comes to cheesiness.
// {;-)™

271 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:21:04pm

re: #256 jcm

5¼", youngun' try 8'.

Opps, that a early Bernoulli, try 8' floppy.

272 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:21:13pm

re: #266 Electron Shuffler

Yup. Still have my Apple ][ e.
Haven't turned it on for about 10 years!

Punch Cards!

"No Ring - No Write!"

273 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:21:25pm

re: #265 Crimsonfisted

you are gonna pay--and actually, i was thinking "cockles'

274 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:22:45pm

re: #270 Da_Beerfreak

The elevator scene is a classic when it comes to cheesiness.
// {;-)™

Yes, but the whole phenomenology argument with the bomb is one of the funniest things I've ever seen...

275 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:22:56pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey

Prayers for Brady here too.

276 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:23:27pm

re: #272 CIA Reject

I have had the ring go missing on some disks. Made a mess.
Thankfully I had backups!

277 Truck Monkey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:23:40pm

re: #261 NomadOfNorad

There was a very special, bright boy I knew on another forum last year, who after a serious illness that we thought he was getting over... died rather suddenly. It shook the forum up, a lot. And me.

He was only 12.

Yes, absolutely I will pray for Brady.


I wish that the odds were in our favor, but am sober enough to know that the deck is stacked against us. We are looking for a miracle.

278 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:23:57pm

re: #215 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you, again. I am moved everytime you post that list.

God bless you.

279 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:24:10pm

re: #274 CIA Reject

Yes, but the whole phenomenology argument with the bomb is one of the funniest things I've ever seen...

I would have swore you made that word up! However:

phenomenology |fiˌnäməˈnäləjē |
noun Philosophy
the science of phenomena as distinct from that of the nature of being.
• an approach that concentrates on the study of consciousness and the objects of direct experience.

280 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:24:20pm

re: #256 jcm

5¼", youngun' try 8'.

Alright, youngun' !
Let's see you build THIS!

281 loflyer  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:25:42pm

re: #271 jcm

Opps, that a early Bernoulli, try 8' floppy.

Don't make me talk about top of the line 20 MB IBM hard-drives the size of refrigerators costing 20 grand plus in the mid 80's...

282 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:25:50pm

re: #237 Truck Monkey

Prayers for Brady and his family.

283 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:26:15pm

re: #280 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Alright, youngun' !
Let's see you build THIS!

But can someone build me a Jacob's Ladder? I want one for Halloween. I am an idiot with this stuff.

284 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:27:39pm

re: #276 Electron Shuffler

I have had the ring go missing on some disks. Made a mess.
Thankfully I had backups!

I used to keep a spare in my desk, years later, to use as an "experience benchmark" for prospective engineers I interviewed. When we were all done with the interview I'd toss it on my desk and ask the candidate: "do you know what this is?" If he knew then I knew he was an old hand...

And yes, it is a mess when you forget the ring

/But not as big a mess as dropping a "red" deck :-)

285 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:29:30pm

re: #266 Electron Shuffler

Yup. Still have my Apple ][ e.
Haven't turned it on for about 10 years!

Punch Cards!

They had Apple II machines at the junior college I went to. Took a BASIC programming class on them. They were networked together with something called Corvus... which, oddly enough, is where I gather the BASIC programs were actually running. :-/

These were black-cased Apple II machines, which I gather were only sold to, and used in, educational establishments.

As for punch-cards... I briefly encountered a machine at that same junior college that used them. It was a wedge-shaped thing with a small card-reader mechanism at one end, and the readout display was a row of nixie-tubes! I gather they'd pulled the thing out of a closet.

This was in the early 1980s or so.

BTW, my dad was a mathematics professor there. Now you know why I'm such an intellectual, and a nut. :D :D :D

286 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:30:28pm

re: #280 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Alright, youngun' !
Let's see you build THIS!

That's cool! Piece of cake to build.

I'm design and build interface boards for this gizmo now. That is the tester for the chips, this thing-a-ma-bob moves the chips into position for testing. I do the stuff and junk in between.

287 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:30:51pm

re: #240 jaunte

Some of us have enough to make up for those who are less than properly armed.

288 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:31:27pm

re: #267 theparson

Thanks for explaining. I just couldn't understand your angle. Hope your son stays well and we are all proud of him. Semper Fi

Thanks parson..After Jordan spnding 7 months in Fallujah and he is going to Afgainistan in Jan.. We have Jordan home for the first time in 3 years for christmas..
Did you know that the entire 3/5 marines came home last month with every single marine unhurt on the parade ground? The sound was deafening when the busses pulled up at 2 am in the morning.. It was like the colts in the superbowl.. The greatest sound you will ever hear..the slogan for the 3/5th marines is ' get some'
you should have seen the signs that night that said...
hey.. you gonna get some..
in hundreds of variations

289 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:31:39pm

re: #277 Truck Monkey

I wish that the odds were in our favor, but am sober enough to know that the deck is stacked against us. We are looking for a miracle.

Well, just to be on the safe side: I hope he's spiritually ready for eternity, if you know what I mean. :-|

290 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:31:47pm

re: #283 Crimsonfisted

But can someone build me a Jacob's Ladder? I want one for Halloween. I am an idiot with this stuff.

We've got a few of those floating around. Makes the lab look cool when we give tours.

291 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:32:28pm

re: #279 theparson

Yeah, the things you can learn from watching B movies late at night:

[Doolittle convinces the bomb not to explode]
Doolittle: Hello, Bomb? Are you with me?
Bomb #20: Of course.
Doolittle: Are you willing to entertain a few concepts?
Bomb #20: I am always receptive to suggestions.
Doolittle: Fine. Think about this then. How do you know you exist?
Bomb #20: Well, of course I exist.
Doolittle: But how do you know you exist?
Bomb #20: It is intuitively obvious.
Doolittle: Intuition is no proof. What concrete evidence do you have that you exist?
[...]

Who says insomnia is a bad thing!?

292 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:32:29pm

re: #290 jcm

We've got a few of those floating around. Makes the lab look cool when we give tours.


I am sooo jealous. That is so cool.

293 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:32:40pm

re: #283 Crimsonfisted

But can someone build me a Jacob's Ladder? I want one for Halloween. I am an idiot with this stuff.

Ooh, ooh! If someone's taking requests, I want a theremin.

The make such a lovely sound.

294 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:33:10pm

re: #284 CIA Reject

We just used punch cards as a exercise in school. By the time I graduated, mass storage and input via video terminals had completely taken over. I surmise that the red deck was something important.

295 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:33:18pm

re: #288 HoosierHoops

Fantastic! Give him a chest bump for me with a resounding ooo-rah!

296 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:33:23pm

re: #115 mikeymom

speaking of anal probes-just made an aappt for a colonoscopy inn aug-after the prep, i will be peeing from my butt--sigh

The prep isn't so bad anymore if you can use Pico-Salax. It's just two small orange-flavoured drinks; nothing like that gallon of awful stuff you used to have to force down.

If it's not available in the U.S., see if you can buy it from Canada. (It's over-the-counter.)

As for the rest, yeah, been there, done that, twice. My grandfather died of colon cancer when he was 51 or 52; a colonoscopy is way easier than what he went through.

Just tell your doctor to dope you up real good.

297 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:34:24pm

Cheer up. We're winning this War on Terror

Al-Qaeda and the Taleban are in retreat, the surge has worked in Iraq and Islamism is discredited. Not a bad haul

Bush was right? Say it isn't so!

298 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:34:38pm

re: #292 Crimsonfisted

I am sooo jealous. That is so cool.

This is a cool one.

299 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:34:59pm

re: #287 FamHistoryGuy

I had to explain to some co-workers today that the Founders intent in writing the Second Amendment was so we could all protect ourselves from the government, if need be, and that it was part of the overall check and balances built in to our system. They thought I was insufficiently sensitive to gun crime.

300 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:35:13pm

re: #288 HoosierHoops
LOL The 11th MEU says "stay hard, get some".

Please tell your son how much I appreciate his service. You must be very proud.

301 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:35:26pm

re: #291 CIA Reject

Funny!

302 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:35:53pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

P.S. Ringo rules!

John! John! John! John!

/Yoko... John... Yoko? John? Yoko! John! (I've got their wedding album.)

303 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:35:56pm

re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

I think of Lost in Space.

304 stevieray  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:35:58pm

Great bad movies?

How about Kentucky Fried Movie and The Groove Tube... in a drive-in back in '79.

305 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:36:01pm

re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

Ooh, ooh! If someone's taking requests, I want a theremin.

The make such a lovely sound.

/makes a great cat toy

306 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:36:47pm

re: #268 Kenneth

That's not Micky Mouse in the Middle Window!

307 snowcrash  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:37:45pm

re: #305 Killian Bundy
My dog hated that sound. She flattened her ears and ran away!

308 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:37:49pm

re: #305 Killian Bundy

I have a couple of those. Got them from Heathkit. Some assembly req'd.
Not very popular with the neighbors, when I practice it.
Kids love it.

309 ContraJihadi  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:37:53pm

re: #299 jaunte

I had to explain to some co-workers today that the Founders intent in writing the Second Amendment was so we could all protect ourselves from the government, if need be, and that it was part of the overall check and balances built in to our system. They thought I was insufficiently sensitive to gun crime.

Guns commit crimes?

310 pingjockey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:38:23pm

re: #304 stevieray
"Moscow in flames, missles headed at New York, film at 11."

311 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:38:37pm

re: #296 Josephine

Here's my doc's prep: 2 bottles of citrate of magnesia, a couple otc laxatives - plenty of fluids.

I'll detail the intervals if anyone wishes to know, but his response on the last visit was, "Well, you did real good."

I took that to mean I had a very clean colon.

BTW, his nurses are total babes. I'm almost eager to return.

312 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:38:43pm

"I exist therefore: I explode!"

Loved Dark Star!
B+

313 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:38:43pm

re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

Ooh, ooh! If someone's taking requests, I want a theremin.

The make such a lovely sound.

Glass Harmonica.

314 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:39:25pm

re: #296 Josephine

my hmo makes you do the gallon of stuff-colyte- plus two dulcolax tabs--done dicussing this disgusting subject-- i will survive--

315 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:39:30pm

re: #309 ContraJihadi

Guns commit crimes?

People commit crimes against guns? :-

316 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:39:39pm

re: #294 Electron Shuffler

We just used punch cards as a exercise in school. By the time I graduated, mass storage and input via video terminals had completely taken over. I surmise that the red deck was something important.

Classified programs used to be punched on red cards. As a security measure they did not have the human-readable text across the top. They did have sequence numbers in the last 8 columns of the card, but the printing for them was suppressed as well. Consequently if you dropped the deck you had to re-order the cards by interpreting the ASCII code for the sequence numbers in the last 8 columns. Not a job for a quiche eater!

317 pingjockey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:14pm

re: #309 ContraJihadi
Of course guns commit crimes. Just like all the accidents with SUVs. The SUV did it on its own.

318 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:14pm

re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

Used in plenty of B movies as sound effects!

319 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:25pm

re: #311 Noam Sayin'

I'm on 2 antibiotics for Diverticulitis. Wanna see my colon?

320 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:40pm

re: #299 jaunte

I had to explain to some co-workers today that the Founders intent in writing the Second Amendment was so we could all protect ourselves from the government, if need be, and that it was part of the overall check and balances built in to our system. They thought I was insufficiently sensitive to gun crime.

Just ran across this, maybe it's redundant, but :

SCOTUS Decides For Individual Rights in Heller, Liberal Blogger Calls on Scalia to be Murdered

321 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:42pm

An older essay, but a good one, on what has been happening lately in the Middle East & why,

Iran’s Shifting Strategy

By NIBRAS KAZIMI May 12, 2008


The healing in Iraq and the deterioration in Lebanon are not unrelated. In fact, Iraq will serve as both cause and effect to Lebanon’s misfortunes. Iran, eclipsed in Sadr City, had decided to allow its sectarian acolytes to put on a show of strength in Beirut. And the jihadists of Al Qaeda’s ilk, soon to be eclipsed in Mosul, will migrate to Beirut to meet Iran’s challenge.
322 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:48pm

re: #312 Electron Shuffler

"I exist therefore: I explode!"

Loved Dark Star!
B+

"Uh... bomb?!?"
"Let there be light!"
BOOOoooooommm... ! ! !

Yeah, that was a great movie! :D

323 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:40:59pm

re: #133 mikeymom

i once had an endoscopy and colon thingy on the same day--20 yrs ago and still remember--sigh--and this one is 1 week after my first sons wedding on aug 1--wow are we gonna partay!

I had them both five years ago with no problem. I had them both again recently and my blood pressure crashed in the car on the way home. (They sent me home waaay too early this time.)

I recommend that others not have both procedures done on the same day unless they are kept in recovery long enough to burp and fart out enough of the gas that they won't have a serious problem away from the hospital.

324 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:41:01pm

re: #309 ContraJihadi

I can't explain their logic, but I think it may be that they haven't studied much about black markets.

325 ContraJihadi  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:41:01pm

re: #315 NomadOfNorad

People commit crimes against guns? :-

They do when the fail to uphold the 2nd Amendment--well, at least against other people who do own guns.

326 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:41:10pm

Help?

I'm redoing my resume and the Word template in Vista is messed up. I cannot type the name/address heading without it spacing an extra blank line. It's fine when I get to the body except for the categories' title line.

Mandy Manners

714 Lollypop Lane

Leafy Grove, Flyover 98920

714-867-5309

MandyManners@

Dropping down to the body:

BLAHDEBLAHBLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
BLAH BLAH BLAH.

BLAHDEBLAHBLAHANOTHER

BLAH BLAH BLAH...

Any ideas on how to eliminate the lines?

327 stevieray  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:41:14pm

re: #299 jaunte

I had to explain to some co-workers today that the Founders intent in writing the Second Amendment was so we could all protect ourselves from the government, if need be, and that it was part of the overall check and balances built in to our system. They thought I was insufficiently sensitive to gun crime.

They've got a good point! Police states have low crime levels and no privately held guns... tA daH! It works!

/

328 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:41:20pm

re: #319 theparson

Umm... no.

329 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:41:38pm

re: #301 theparson

Funny!

It's even funnier in the movie - if you can find it check it our, it's a hoot!

330 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:42:04pm

re: #320 SasquatchOnSteroids

That is why I am touchy about shooting conservatives, even in a metaphor.
Because enough people want to do it for real.

331 ContraJihadi  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:42:19pm

re: #320 SasquatchOnSteroids

Just ran across this, maybe it's redundant, but :

SCOTUS Decides For Individual Rights in Heller, Liberal Blogger Calls on Scalia to be Murdered

Sounds like a liberal, alright.

332 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:42:22pm

re: #299 jaunte

I had to explain to some co-workers today that the Founders intent in writing the Second Amendment was so we could all protect ourselves from the government, if need be, and that it was part of the overall check and balances built in to our system. They thought I was insufficiently sensitive to gun crime.

Oh, teh frikken irony!

333 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:42:22pm

re: #299 jaunte

I had to explain to some co-workers today that the Founders intent in writing the Second Amendment was so we could all protect ourselves from the government, if need be, and that it was part of the overall check and balances built in to our system. They thought I was insufficiently sensitive to gun crime.

You tell 'em that legally held guns are involved in less than 0.02% of gun crimes? That it's document 750,000 times a year legally held guns stop a crime at the estimate is as high as 2 million?

334 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:42:41pm

re: #316 CIA Reject

I understand, I have the Hackers Dictionary buried here somewhere!

335 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:42:52pm

re: #328 Noam Sayin'

Umm... no.

Fine!

336 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:43:29pm

re: #305 Killian Bundy

/makes a great cat toy

We've got a theremin CD. It's cool for about three songs then it get monotonous. (For me, anyway.) We watched a really cool documentary about it a while ago. It's amazing.

337 pingjockey  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:43:35pm

re: #333 jcm

Facts, we don't need no stikin' facts!

338 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:44:08pm

re: #313 jcm

Genius!

339 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:44:14pm

re: #298 jcm

This is a cool one.

I want a lab like this.

340 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:44:23pm

re: #326 MandyManners

Help?

I'm redoing my resume and the Word template in Vista is messed up. I cannot type the name/address heading without it spacing an extra blank line. It's fine when I get to the body except for the categories' title line.

Mandy Manners

714 Lollypop Lane

Leafy Grove, Flyover 98920

714-867-5309

MandyManners@

Dropping down to the body:

BLAHDEBLAHBLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
BLAH BLAH BLAH.

BLAHDEBLAHBLAHANOTHER

BLAH BLAH BLAH...

Any ideas on how to eliminate the lines?

Hi light the effected lines. Format > Paragraph set spacing before and after to 0.

341 rockdad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:44:23pm

Arnold disses drilling last week, and sends me an e-mail today addressing the real need to reform the Gerrymandering of the state legislative districts. Boy oh boy, let's go all out big guy, the McCain of California, where is Hunter when you need him. Oh- that's right, that media thingy.

342 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:44:41pm

re: #325 ContraJihadi

They do when the fail to uphold the 2nd Amendment--well, at least against other people who do own guns.

Good answer! Good answer! Survey SAYS...!

DING ! ! !

/Family Feud

343 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:45:04pm

re: #319 theparson

when i was 28- and on the eve of my first sons christening, i had 12" of intestine removed- missed the baptism of course-pwople kept asking mikeydad--where the hell is mikeymom? couldnt believe it--i got to see pixs-lol

344 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:45:29pm

re: #286 jcm

I need the gravity handler for my spare tire.

345 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:45:38pm

re: #341 rockdad

Arnold disses drilling while he cruises around in his G5 jet, twice daily.

346 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:45:38pm

re: #333 jcm

I will be speaking to them again; I plan to invite them out to the country for some target shooting, and I think I can bring them around.

347 Kenneth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:45:46pm

re: #326 MandyManners

It has to do with the formatting of the styles

Click on Format

/Styles & Formatting

...and then play around with that.

Oh did you hear? Bill Gates retired today to sit around his mansion and count his billions.

You're welcome.

348 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:46:20pm

re: #318 Electron Shuffler

I still have a copy of Plan 9 laying around somewhere.

349 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:46:30pm

re: #343 mikeymom

Well, it took a lot of guts to carry on.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

350 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:47:26pm

re: #347 Kenneth

Heh!

351 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:47:46pm

re: #298 jcm

This is a cool one.

Is that the anal probe someone was talking about upthread?

352 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:01pm

re: #339 Crimsonfisted

Best. Movie. Evar!

That film does for me what Prozac does for others.

353 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:12pm

re: #349 theparson

SMACK!

354 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:42pm

re: #340 jcm

Hi light the effected lines. Format > Paragraph set spacing before and after to 0.

mandy,, I've never done a resume.. i'm so there for you..( is that how you spell it?)

355 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:44pm

re: #353 mikeymom

Was that a big kiss?

356 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:49pm

Cornyn's new commercial

357 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:50pm

re: #351 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is that the anal probe someone was talking about upthread?

YOOOWWW!

358 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:48:51pm

re: #311 Noam Sayin'

I couldn't finish the stuff I had to drink five years ago. I wasn't even allowed to drink gingerale that time. I cried as I tried to drink that stuff. (I can't remember what it was called.)

I brought the unfinished jug with me on the day of the procedure, to show them how much was left over. They did the tests anyway. Thank God for me, because that's when they (finally) diagnosed the Celiac (via the endoscopy).

I'm not kidding: the Pico-Salax was so easy. (No affiliation.)

359 rockdad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:49:26pm

re: #345 rawmuse

There must a Kennedy involved somewhere. No windmills in my backyard, no oil in his. Jerks.

360 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:49:49pm

re: #353 mikeymom

Yeh, I deserved that.
Anyway, I turn the big five oh next month so, once I get through with the meds I will have a doctor go where NO man has gone before.

361 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:50:17pm

re: #305 Killian Bundy

/makes a great cat toy

Goddess!
Did you see this?!
You GOTTA see it!

362 Josephine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:50:24pm

re: #314 mikeymom

my hmo makes you do the gallon of stuff-colyte- plus two dulcolax tabs--done dicussing this disgusting subject-- i will survive--

That's it: Colyte. Horrible stuff. Well, best of luck. Yes, indeed, you will survive and it will be worth it.

363 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:50:34pm

re: #355 jaunte

should have given him an anal probe--sideways!

364 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:51:21pm

re: #340 jcm

Hi light the effected lines. Format > Paragraph set spacing before and after to 0.

Hold on, please.

365 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:52:03pm

re: #360 theparson

enjoy! let me know how it goes--lol--pun intended

366 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:52:21pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

It's on my list of Good B movies to see.
A group of my friends and I hope to put together a list of bad B science fiction movies to run as a movie marathon for the astronomical club I belong to. Plan 9 is on the list.

There is also a banned list of movies!
#1 Mons Turd. - Never seen it, I'll just take my friends word on it!

367 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:53:31pm

You mean to tell me I go away a for an hour, come back, and we're still talking anal probes?!
Eeeewww!

368 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:53:49pm

re: #366 Electron Shuffler

It's on my list of Good B movies to see.
A group of my friends and I hope to put together a list of bad B science fiction movies to run as a movie marathon for the astronomical club I belong to. Plan 9 is on the list.

There is also a banned list of movies!
#1 Mons Turd. - Never seen it, I'll just take my friends word on it!

I haven't seen that one, either. Found the theme music MP3 online somewhere, though. Really cute song. See if you can find it. Hehe.

369 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:53:56pm

re: #343 mikeymom

when i was 28- and on the eve of my first sons christening, i had 12" of intestine removed- missed the baptism of course-pwople kept asking mikeydad--where the hell is mikeymom? couldnt believe it--i got to see pixs-lol

So now you just have a semi-colon?

/sorry--I truly hope all is well now, but I couldn't resist the joke...

370 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:54:17pm

re: #367 wolfie

some of them are enjoying them!

371 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:54:35pm

re: #340 jcm

Hi light the effected lines. Format > Paragraph set spacing before and after to 0.

There is no FORMAT button.

372 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:54:44pm

re: #367 wolfie

There's always the ID thread.

373 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:55:05pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

Best. Movie. Evar!

That film does for me what Prozac does for others.

:) And High Anxiety. And Blazing Saddles. And History of the World Part I.

Did I mention I am a Mel Brooks fan?

374 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:55:36pm

re: #347 Kenneth

It has to do with the formatting of the styles

Click on Format

...and then play around with that.

Oh did you hear? Bill Gates retired today to sit around his mansion and count his billions.

You're welcome.

There is no FORMAT button.

Gates is not sitting around counting his billions. He's figuring out how to give it away. Bless his heart.

375 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:55:42pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

There's always the ID thread.

These days it's hard to tell the difference...

376 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:55:59pm

re: #369 goddessoftheclassroom

ya know gotc--im gonna pray for YOU after that one--SMACK!

377 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:56:02pm

&#x25BA This thread is getting out of hand! Codes, formatting and punctuation jokes!

378 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:56:38pm

re: #371 MandyManners

There is no FORMAT button.

Menu.

File Edit View Insert Format Tools Table Window Help

379 theparson  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:56:44pm

I am officially leaving the Friday night colon thread.
Goodnight, Mrs Callabash... where ever you are.

380 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:56:52pm

re: #361 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Goddess!
Did you see this?!
You GOTTA see it!

TOO FUNNY! I've never heard of a theremin. Where does one get one?

381 ContraJihadi  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:57:04pm

re: #373 Crimsonfisted

:) And High Anxiety. And Blazing Saddles. And History of the World Part I.

Did I mention I am a Mel Brooks fan?

Wasn't the original, TV Get Smart a Mel Brooks creation?

382 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:57:15pm

re: #377 lone_wolf_in_illinois

and colons! dont forget the colons!

383 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:57:56pm

re: #376 mikeymom

ya know gotc--im gonna pray for YOU after that one--SMACK!

Oh, I deserved that!

384 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:58:02pm

re: #377 lone_wolf_in_illinois

► This thread is getting out of hand! Codes, formatting and punctuation jokes!

▼ anal probes.

385 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:58:26pm

re: #373 Crimsonfisted

:) And High Anxiety. And Blazing Saddles. And History of the World Part I.

Did I mention I am a Mel Brooks fan?

Same here, and I think Blazing Saddles, in addition to being one of the funniest movies ever made, is one of the most important because it makes a simple but powerful point:

"Racists are assholes"

Required viewing IMHO

386 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:58:30pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

There's always the ID thread.

Hmmm...I think I'll take this one!

387 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:59:05pm

re: #384 jcm

▼ anal probes.

Is that what one uses to get to the bottom of things (as opposed to the heart of the matter)?

388 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:59:05pm

I found the SPACING button (it's not labeled) and reduced it to 1 but, it made no difference.

Where's my DE .44?

389 redc1c4  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:59:22pm

i'm sorry but that's all geek to me.

(sorry i'm late: i was out back with a chainsaw, a chipper & some beer %-)

390 daniel_ream  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:59:26pm

re: #46 MadJadBad

It's interesting to see how different widgets are coded. I work in IT and want to get into web server coding. What do you think are the top five languages or tools is should know?

There's a coincidence - I did the exact same thing a year ago.

Web application coding breaks into two camps - Windows, and everybody else. On Windows, you want to learn ASP.NET. There are good books available and the tools you will need are all free downloads. It's been my experience that most .NET application dev shops are still mostly using 2.0 (the current version is 3.5) due to the large existing code base they're maintaining. The good thing about ASP.NET is that it makes web application coding really, really easy. The down side is that this means that competent ASP.NET programmers are a dime a dozen, and you're not going to make a lot of money unless you branch out into things like Sharepoint Server integration or more general C#/.NET programming.

On the everyone else side, it seems like just about every week sees Some Damn New Web Programming Language That's Going To Revolutionize Everything *cough*ruby*cough*python*, but really, virtually all web sites that actually do real things are written in PHP and JavaScript (JavaScript for the AJAX stuff). Just learning PHP and JavaScript isn't going to help much because they're so low-level; for instance, Charles uses jQuery (a library of pre-written JavaScript functions) instead of hand-coding all the AJAX functions himself. So, learn basic PHP and JavaScript (again, lots of good books available for this), but look around at some of the higher-level web application "frameworks" to learn. A "framework" turns PHP, JavaScript, &c. into what ASP.NET is by adding in libraries of common functions you might want when developing web applications. My experience is that no one of the two dozen or so PHP frameworks is "the one to know", but I see more and more commercial applications using Zend specifically. So that might be a good place to start - if nothing else, it will teach you how to work with a framework.

At the other, ridiculously insane end of the scale, is J2EE (Java). Don't even bother. Good J2EE developers make $100K+/year around here, and there's a reason - I find J2EE so horrendously complicated and possessed of so many bureaucratically established standards and frameworks that it's impossible to get your head around unless you already have significant enterprise development experience.

My recommendation, then, would be to start with your existing base: if you're a Windows type, learn ASP.NET. If you're a Linux/Unix type, learn PHP and JavaScript and a web application framework. Find a book or training video series that walks you through actually writing a real app from scatch, you'll learn more that way.

I hope this helps and by all means email me privately if you would like to discuss it any further.

(Hey, it is a tech thread.)

391 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:59:29pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

dont give the great lizard any ideas!

392 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 7:59:53pm

re: #381 ContraJihadi

Wasn't the original, TV Get Smart a Mel Brooks creation?

Yes, it was

393 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:00:00pm

re: #378 jcm

Menu.

File Edit View Insert Format Tools Table Window Help

There is no MENU button. (This is Vista if that makes a difference.)

394 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:00:08pm

re: #381 ContraJihadi

Wasn't the original, TV Get Smart a Mel Brooks creation?


With buck Henry, I believe so.

395 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:00:32pm

re: #392 CIA Reject

Yes, it was

Get Smart is the first TV series I remember from my childhood.

396 ContraJihadi  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:01:04pm

re: #394 Crimsonfisted

With buck Henry, I believe so.

That was one funny show.

397 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:01:25pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

There's always the ID thread.

Personally, I wish we had the kind of ID they had on Earth: Final Conflict. There ID stood for InterDimensional, their term for hyperspace. It was how the aliens drive systems worked: shunt the ship, or the shuttle, into what amounts to a pocket-dimension.

And they had these things called ID Portals, which was basically a teleport booth. THAT I wanna play with!

Dang, why couldn't I have been born into a space-opera universe, like I used to daydream about as a kid? :-|

Space opera universe, or superhero universe. Couldn't make up my mind which, so I dumped them all together. :-D

398 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:01:55pm

re: #395 goddessoftheclassroom

mine was dr kildare--ohh myy i was soo crushed to learn he was gay-

399 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:02:20pm

re: #397 NomadOfNorad

Let's teach it in physics class !

400 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:03:29pm

re: #380 goddessoftheclassroom

TOO FUNNY! I've never heard of a theremin. Where does one get one?

You can probably find them on-line. Perhaps a good musical instrument store might have them, to let you get ... uh ... hands-on experience.

(Note: in this context, "uh" translates to "paws".)
(You may now barf.)

401 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:03:30pm

re: #388 MandyManners

I found the SPACING button (it's not labeled) and reduced it to 1 but, it made no difference.

Where's my DE .44?

Next thing. Find the Styles pull down menu, it will say some thing like Heading1 when you highlight the obnoxious line. Click the down arrow to expand the menu and select normal.

402 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:03:52pm

re: #396 ContraJihadi

re: #395 goddessoftheclassroom

The "Cone Of Silence" cracked me up every time!

/"Sorry about that Chief!"

403 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:03:57pm

Holy carp! Dr Kildare killed the thread.
Quack.

404 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:04:14pm

re: #398 mikeymom

mine was dr kildare--ohh myy i was soo crushed to learn he was gay-

I remember Richard Chamberlain from some TV movies (Man in the Iron Mask, Three Musketeers, etc) and was equally crushed.

405 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:04:30pm

re: #374 MandyManners

Are you using Office 2007? If so, I can't help. Resisting the push to change. From what I have seen of it, I will hate it. I am a typist not a mouse person. Still use Ctrl + F/S/P etc.

If it is 2003, maybe I can help.

406 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:04:40pm

Breaking Insidefrom Shinedown's new album

407 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:04:42pm

re: #384 jcm

▼ anal probes.

Your young'uns now have a thoroughly corrupted father. They will hate LGF to their dying days.

408 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:04:45pm

re: #393 MandyManners

There is no MENU button. (This is Vista if that makes a difference.)

You using Word 07? They mucked it up and moved all the menus around.

409 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:06:04pm

re: #393 MandyManners

There is no MENU button. (This is Vista if that makes a difference.)

Right click on the bar, it should open a window that allows you to select what appears.

410 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:06:05pm

re: #404 goddessoftheclassroom

the thorn birds---OMG!

411 WindHorse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:06:27pm

Mandy,
choose the "styles" icon... it will present a drop down menu... choose Word 2003... (That should eliminate the extra space)

412 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:06:48pm

re: #407 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Your young'uns now have a thoroughly corrupted father. They will hate LGF to their dying days.

The 4 year old got in a little minor trouble at day care. We get home and I ask him what happened? He looks at me and very seriously says, "Nan and I discussed it, we don't need to go over it again."

He's 4, where do they come up with stuff like that?

413 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:06:50pm

re: #408 jcm

You using Word 07? They mucked it up and removed all the menus around.

It sucks.

414 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:06:54pm

I got it! Under the HOME heading, it's the line spacing button, paragraph category!

I'm glad I didn't shoot this thing.

@@@

Thank you to all the fine Lizards who offered advice!

415 Edouard  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:07:06pm

re: #166 CIA Reject

Dark Star

/"Funny, I thought I had the damned thing convinced..."

This scruffy old song from Dark Star has never left my heart & soul, I swear, ever since I first heard it.

Benson, Arizona

416 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:07:27pm

re: #402 CIA Reject

re: #395 goddessoftheclassroom

The "Cone Of Silence" cracked me up every time!

/"Sorry about that Chief!"

Speaking of space opera (from my previous comment): Oddly enough, Dune also had a device called a cone of silence... only that cone of silence was a cone-shaped force-field that blocked sound from getting in or out so you could have private conversations. And it didn't get messed up all the time like that big plastic thing on "Get Smart!" :D

417 daniel_ream  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:08:15pm

re: #414 MandyManners

I'm glad I didn't shoot this thing.

Not so fast. It's still running Vista. ;-)

418 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:08:22pm

re: #373 Crimsonfisted

All good flicks, but let's be accurate. Young Frankenstein was only directed by Mel Brooks at the request of Gene Wilder. It was Wilder who wrote the screenplay.

419 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:08:54pm

re: #404 goddessoftheclassroom

Didn't Charlton Heston also turn out to be gay?

Plenty of dreamy women were just devastated when that secret got out!

420 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:09:12pm

re: #414 MandyManners

I got it! Under the HOME heading, it's the line spacing button, paragraph category!

I'm glad I didn't shoot this thing.

@@@

Thank you to all the fine Lizards who offered advice!

Mandy, you should have Charles delete your address & phone number this thread. Too many moonbats read LGF.

421 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:09:12pm

re: #412 jcm

The 4 year old got in a little minor trouble at day care. We get home and I ask him what happened? He looks at me and very seriously says, "Nan and I discussed it, we don't need to go over it again."

He's 4, where do they come up with stuff like that?

He's going to be either a lawyer or a preacher.

/as my mouse hovers above "post this comment", I KNOW I'm going to regret this

422 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:09:39pm

re: #413 Dolphin

New computers in my company come with Word 07, it saves by default in 07 format. AND IT'S NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE, so when they send out a doc, if you don't have 07 you can't read it. You got to have them do a save as in an older version and resend. What's better is doc entered into the archive system can't be read, and you have to track the author down.

423 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:10:14pm

re: #401 jcm

Next thing. Find the Styles pull down menu, it will say some thing like Heading1 when you highlight the obnoxious line. Click the down arrow to expand the menu and select normal.

There is no STYLES pull down menu in Vista.

From Left to Right:

HOME INSERT PAGE LAYOUT REFERENCES MAILINGS REVIEW

VIEW

Each button pulls up a new horizontal menu thingy.

424 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:10:18pm

re: #414 MandyManners

I got it! Under the HOME heading, it's the line spacing button, paragraph category!

I'm glad I didn't shoot this thing.

@@@

Thank you to all the fine Lizards who offered advice!

That's a hellava place to put it!

425 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:10:25pm

re: #419 NomadOfNorad

NNNOOO! you must be thinking of rock hudson! heston was long married!

426 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:10:31pm

re: #418 Slumbering Behemoth

All good flicks, but let's be accurate. Young Frankenstein was only directed by Mel Brooks at the request of Gene Wilder. It was Wilder who wrote the screenplay.

Po-tay-toe - Po-tah-toe

Still funny! Either way. :)

427 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:10:32pm

Charles - Could I do essentially the same thing with SPRY in DW CS3 (and) can you use *.png images in place of the character entities?

/just wondering if you're still here

428 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:10:44pm

re: #419 NomadOfNorad

Didn't Charlton Heston also turn out to be gay?

Plenty of dreamy women were just devastated when that secret got out!

Absolutely NOT.

429 Thanos  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:11:07pm
430 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:11:33pm

re: #423 MandyManners

There is no STYLES pull down menu in Vista.

From Left to Right:

HOME INSERT PAGE LAYOUT REFERENCES MAILINGS REVIEW

VIEW

Each button pulls up a new horizontal menu thingy.

I'm still running Word 2000. I know a lot of folks are unhappy with 07 because nothing is where it used to be.

431 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:12:12pm

re: #425 mikeymom

NNNOOO! you must be thinking of rock hudson! heston was long married!

Dang! You're right! I was.

Bloody heck, I get those old Hollywood heartthrobs mixed up...! :-|

432 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:12:29pm

re: #415 Edouard

This scruffy old song from Dark Star has never left my heart & soul, I swear, ever since I first heard it.

Benson, Arizona

Oh, GAWD Yes! I almost forgot all about that- thanks for linking it!

433 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:12:45pm

re: #421 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He's going to be either a lawyer or a preacher.

/as my mouse hovers above "post this comment", I KNOW I'm going to regret this

LOL! I'm the first in 4 generations not a preacher. As long as he's a prosecutor that'd be okay.

434 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:13:56pm

re: #431 NomadOfNorad

that was like saying john wayne was gay! lolol

435 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:14:03pm

re: #422 jcm

Looks like I stay with 2003, max.

(Heck, I still use Word 95 for most of my stuff, because of all the Word Basic macros I wrote for it. They'll import into VBA, but I'll be damned if I'll learn another version of Basic in order to add new ones!)

436 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:14:41pm

Dang! Did my Charlton Heston / Rock Hudson mix-up kill the thread?

437 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:15:17pm

re: #436 NomadOfNorad

yep! you are fired!

438 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:15:47pm

Let's hear it for CHANGE!

439 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:16:01pm

re: #432 CIA Reject

That caught my attention when I saw the movie too.
I thought it was a might bit strange to use in a sci-fi flick.
Catchy tune.

440 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:16:08pm

re: #416 NomadOfNorad

Speaking of space opera (from my previous comment): Oddly enough, Dune also had a device called a cone of silence... only that cone of silence was a cone-shaped force-field that blocked sound from getting in or out so you could have private conversations. And it didn't get messed up all the time like that big plastic thing on "Get Smart!" :D

A ham radio operator friend of mine once explained to me how the "cone of silence" was a real phenomenon in antenna design. For years I though he was joking.

441 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:16:11pm

re: #435 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Looks like I stay with 2003, max.

(Heck, I still use Word 95 for most of my stuff, because of all the Word Basic macros I wrote for it. They'll import into VBA, but I'll be damned if I'll learn another version of Basic in order to add new ones!)

Word 95's macro system was based on BASIC? Wow! Learn something new every day!

442 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:16:30pm

re: #422 jcm
My company purposely does not move to current version of any software (especially MS) due to this factor. Too many departments collaborate on projects and each department is responsible for their own expenditures. Thus, if one department purchases, say a new license for MS Project (2007) we install 2003 or possibly 2000 so that it does not “force” the other departments with our company to upgrade. Of course, there are exceptions, like when a “feature” is only available in the newest version.

I work in the department that tracks licenses and compliance. It can get to be a pain, but we do what we have to. It is better than getting a nasty call in the middle of the night from, say Korea, because a document from US won't work (or vise-versa).

443 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:16:46pm

re: #436 NomadOfNorad

Dang! Did my Charlton Heston / Rock Hudson mix-up kill the thread?

You mixed up Charlton Heston and Rock Hudson?!
A pox on thee!
*spit*
[censored]
/

444 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:16:54pm

Watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid with my daughters a while back so they could see Newman & Redford...showing them what was HOT in the "olden days!"
They decided we had pretty good taste back then!

445 daniel_ream  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:17:32pm

re: #422 jcm

New computers in my company come with Word 07

I'm surprised your desktop support people aren't enforcing a standard version for your document creation software. If you're licensed for 2007, you can legally blow it away and install 2003 instead.

446 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:17:39pm

re: #438 MandyManners

dont start-- i had a talk w/ my soon to be married son today about that--im about ready to take back all the wedding money we gave him--he does work in boulder--just kidding--sort of

447 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:17:49pm

re: #440 CIA Reject

A ham radio operator friend of mine once explained to me how the "cone of silence" was a real phenomenon in antenna design. For years I though he was joking.


So the Cone of Silence has a basis in truth?

448 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:17:51pm

re: #444 wolfie

Watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid with my daughters a while back so they could see Newman & Redford...showing them what was HOT in the "olden days!"
They decided we had pretty good taste back then!

I love older movies when stars had class and style. Cary Grant, for instance--OMG!

449 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:18:19pm

re: #436 NomadOfNorad

Not yet.

A lady friend of mine. Her mom now long dead, used to date Rock.
Heh.

450 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:18:41pm

re: #430 jcm

I gave my MS person an ear full. Why did they not make this a feature you could turn on. Like they did with XP when you could change it to the classic view? Makes no sense.

451 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:19:19pm

re: #442 Dolphin

Computers are supposed to make work more efficient and productive. But so many times I find that it would be simpler just to scribble down the information I need to convey to other people and drop a note on their desk.

When software makes the job at hand more difficult than it would be with paper and pencil you have to wonder if its all worth it.

452 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:19:49pm

Well, dearest Lizards, I must bid you a good night. Take care.

453 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:08pm

The Cone Of Silence also refers to moonbat brainwave activity.

454 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:16pm

re: #443 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You mixed up Charlton Heston and Rock Hudson?!
A pox on thee!
*spit*
[censored]
/

I got the names mixed up, not the people.

But, then, I've always been bad with names... :-|

455 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:26pm

We converted the home PC to Vista and now our scanner is a paperweight. Nice.

456 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:42pm

re: #440 CIA Reject

my dad was a ham radio operator--W2THE--" THE radio station in Hyde park, n.Y" was his call sign--sigh

457 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:47pm

re: #448 goddessoftheclassroom

Interesting. My daughter's best friend (18 yrs old) is a HUGE Cary Grant fan. There's obviously something classic there that doesn't go out of style.

458 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:51pm

re: #439 Electron Shuffler

That caught my attention when I saw the movie too.
I thought it was a might bit strange to use in a sci-fi flick.
Catchy tune.

Tell me about it, now I'll have it stuck in my head for a week! :-). Then again everything about that movie was just a little bit off- part of what made it so funny...

459 Opilio  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:53pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

That's the most horrible thing I've read in a while.

This story is worse, if you can imagine that.

460 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:20:54pm

re: #441 NomadOfNorad

Word 95's macro system was based on BASIC? Wow! Learn something new every day!

Yes. Word 6 and 95 used Word Basic. In Word 97 they changed to VBA. I took a look at the VBA manual, was baffled by their terminology, and stuck with the old stuff.

461 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:21:04pm

G'nite, GOTC.

Weet dreams.

462 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:21:16pm

re: #445 daniel_ream

I'm surprised your desktop support people aren't enforcing a standard version for your document creation software. If you're licensed for 2007, you can legally blow it away and install 2003 instead.

I let 'em know. I do most of the IT on the computers in Labs, we class them as test machines, so we can make changes and add software etc... we're always monkey with the settings to get stuff to run. New products that haven't been qualified for windows can play fun games in the registry.

463 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:21:22pm

re: #452 goddessoftheclassroom

Good night, goddess!

464 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:21:44pm

Hey there all Y'all - how is everyone tonight? Doing well, I hope!

465 DistantThunder  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:21:57pm

I like the techie posts. Charles is assuming that many of us are as astute and clever as he is, and he may be right. We're smarter, happier, thinner than those Kos Kidz, and I'm OK with that intelligence gap.

466 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:22:08pm

re: #451 Mich-again

Computers are supposed to make work more efficient and productive. But so many times I find that it would be simpler just to scribble down the information I need to convey to other people and drop a note on their desk.

When software makes the job at hand more difficult than it would be with paper and pencil you have to wonder if its all worth it.

Why do you think so many monitors are surrounded by sticking notes?
;-)

467 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:22:16pm

re: #440 CIA Reject

A ham radio operator friend of mine once explained to me how the "cone of silence" was a real phenomenon in antenna design. For years I though he was joking.

Yeah, but can you have a non-overhearable conversation while standing under it, or does it just stop radio signals?

468 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:22:45pm

re: #442 Dolphin

Correction - MS no longer offers upgrades (except for OS) unless you are under an agreement with Software Assurance, which we do not purchase with new licenses. We are too big to be a small business and too small to be a big business.

469 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:23:39pm

re: #459 Opilio

i believe there is a special circle in hell for child abusers--and animal abusers too--

470 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:24:23pm

re: #453 Cartman

The Cone Of Silence also refers to moonbat brainwave activity.

Muahahahahahahaha! Yeah, true. The tendency to stick their fingers in their ears and hum real loud when you try to tell them the truth about things.

471 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:24:48pm

re: #464 realwest

hi cutie-hope you are well--im getting hot under the collar-child abuse stories and all

472 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:24:51pm

re: #464 realwest

Hi, realwest.

USMC1968 was in earlier. He sounded really good, though you may already know.

473 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:25:48pm

re: #444 wolfie Hi Wolfie!
I have to tell you that Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid is my all time favorite film! Though both Newman and Redford turned out to be moonbats, there's no real doubt about their acting abilities and back in the day of that movie, they were truly at the height of their acting powers!

474 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:25:49pm

re: #446 mikeymom

dont start-- i had a talk w/ my soon to be married son today about that--im about ready to take back all the wedding money we gave him--he does work in boulder--just kidding--sort of

I was talking about the changes to Word in Vista. I thought I was gonna' go freakin' nuts trying to figure this thing out.

475 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:25:59pm

re: #447 Crimsonfisted

So the Cone of Silence has a basis in truth?

Yup!

476 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:26:01pm

re: #464 realwest

Howdy, R-Dubs!

/ooops...I forgot to e-mail you...sorry.

477 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:26:04pm

re: #441 NomadOfNorad

Word 95's macro system was based on BASIC? Wow! Learn something new every day!

Back then I was known at my company as the Queen of Macros. When they changed I cried and so did a lot of people I had written macros for that no longer worked. When you upgraded 95 to 97 the macros did not convert. Productivity suffered. LOL.

478 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:27:02pm

re: #466 jcm

Why do you think so many monitors are surrounded by sticking notes?
;-)

(this one has gray hair and a beard)

Were you aware that Texas A&M removed the computers from the dorm study rooms?

479 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:27:04pm

re: #469 mikeymom

i believe there is a special circle in hell for child abusers--and animal abusers too--

Oh, those ASPCA commercials with Sarah McLoughlin (sp?) have been running a lot lately. I have to switch channels/hit the MUTE button 'cause I get all teary.

480 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:27:12pm

re: #474 MandyManners

lol--all greek to me

481 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:27:24pm

re: #464 realwest

Hey Realwest,

Been busy all day getting this place ready for my son's graduation party tomorrow. Were having it catered by Famous Dave's. mmm.. Ribs and brisket.

482 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:27:45pm

re: #464 realwest

Hey there all Y'all - how is everyone tonight? Doing well, I hope!

RW! Evening!re: #459 Opilio

This story is worse, if you can imagine that.

People stood by? WTF?

If I saw something like that, he'd be praying for the round in forehead, cause I wouldn't let 'em off that easy.

I do foster care and have some pretty beat up kids in my house. My adopted 3 year son was beat up pretty bad.

483 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:28:11pm

re: #471 mikeymom
Hi yourself mikeymom - child abuse stories?!

484 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:28:13pm

re: #472 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hi, realwest.

USMC1968 was in earlier. He sounded really good, though you may already know.

He was? Excellent! Sorry I missed him.

485 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:28:33pm

re: #460 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I had a salesman come into town all excited with Word 6 and when I left for the day he installed it and erased Word Perfect 5.5. When I got in in the a.m. I just stared at my screen wondering what i was suppose to do. My first word processing program was WordStar 1.3 (? I think)

486 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:28:40pm

re: #479 MandyManners

i cant watch the animal planet rescue shows-

487 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:28:44pm

re: #466 jcm

Why do you think so many monitors are surrounded by sticking notes?
;-)

The best example I can think of is the simple sketch that used to take 3 minutes, and now it has to be done on Autocad and it takes half an hour.

488 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:07pm

re: #478 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(this one has gray hair and a beard)

Were you aware that Texas A&M removed the computers from the dorm study rooms?

Too much Myspace, not enough studying huh?

489 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:08pm

re: #484 jcm

He was? Excellent! Sorry I missed him.

Yes. He said he was feeling like he'd see Christmas.

490 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:10pm

re: #467 NomadOfNorad

Yeah, but can you have a non-overhearable conversation while standing under it, or does it just stop radio signals?

I think it's strictly an RF thing...

491 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:11pm

re: #481 Mich-again

wowsers! congrats!

492 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:15pm

re: #481 Mich-again

Were having it catered by Famous Dave's. mmm.. Ribs and brisket.

What time should we be over?

493 Karridine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:17pm

re: #473 realwest

I second that!

/but I note that Butch & Sundance were obsolete LOSERS, weren't they?

494 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:29:51pm

re: #472 pre-Boomer Marine brat Hey - no I didn't see him posting anything - do you remember where or when?
(We had yet another series of violent T-Storms and Lightning today and lost power for a few hours AGAIN. This is getting OLD).

495 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:30:10pm

re: #488 jcm

Too much Myspace, not enough studying huh?

Not quite.

Maintenance was spending too much time scraping the white-out off the monitor screens.

496 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:30:22pm

re: #473 realwest

I hadn't seen it since it first came out and was pleasantly surprised that it was still a great movie.
I don't mind Newman's politics that much...(relatively speaking.) Redford, OIOH...moonbat for sure.

My favorite scene is the I-can't-swim one.

497 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:07pm

re: #487 Mich-again

The best example I can think of is the simple sketch that used to take 3 minutes, and now it has to be done on Autocad and it takes half an hour.

I use a PCB (printed circuit board) CAD program. It saves tons of times with the automation and error checking tools.

I know what you mean for the simple stuff.

498 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:07pm

re: #494 realwest

Hey - no I didn't see him posting anything - do you remember where or when?
(We had yet another series of violent T-Storms and Lightning today and lost power for a few hours AGAIN. This is getting OLD).

Hang on. I'll find it.

499 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:23pm

re: #456 mikeymom

my dad was a ham radio operator--W2THE--" THE radio station in Hyde park, n.Y" was his call sign--sigh

I never knew this guy's call sign. We worked together and it never came up. He did like to talk though, guess that's pretty much a prerequisite.

500 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:29pm

re: #476 Cartman Hey my friend, don't sweat it - I said please e-mail me WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE - no pressure at all!
How are you doing tonight?

501 Karridine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:35pm

re: #496 wolfie

Yeppir to that, Wolfie... and I liked Newman in Cars, and in Road to Perdition...

502 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:36pm

re: #458 CIA Reject

Absolutely!

I must make sure that it's on the marathon list.

503 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:46pm

re: #495 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Not quite.

Maintenance was spending too much time scraping the white-out off the monitor screens.

got me!

ROFLMAO!

504 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:31:54pm

re: #492 Cartman

What time should we be over?

HA. 3:00! If you like beer you'll get along just fine with my family.

505 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:32:56pm

re: #481 Mich-again Hey Mich! Uh, I assume you mean your son's High School graduation - you surely aren't old enough to be talking about his college graduation are you?!

506 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:33:00pm

re: #486 mikeymom

i cant watch the animal planet rescue shows-

Neither can I.

507 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:33:10pm

re: #493 Karridine

I second that!

/but I note that Butch & Sundance were obsolete LOSERS, weren't they?

Yeah, but they must have been, like, you know, way cool like, man, you know, 'cause they, you know, were shot down, like in Bolivia, you know, like Che, man!

508 daniel_ream  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:33:12pm

re: #468 Dolphin

Ah, yes, the SMB dead zone. Honestly, you want to avoid Vista anyway; MS has already hinted that thanks to that spectacular misfire they're going to allow upgrade SKUs straight to Windows 7 from XP when it ships. I've yet to see any compelling reason for any enterprise to upgrade from Office 2003 to 2007; no company on Earth requires or is likely to implement the level of Sharepoint integration that would force a 2007 upgrade. The driving force behind Office was always Outlook + Exchange, and that's been eclipsed by what Web 2.0 groupware apps can do (such as Zimbra). Blackberry Enterprise Server is the only thing keeping most of the companies I know still using Exchange.

509 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:33:33pm

re: #459 Opilio

This story is worse, if you can imagine that.

That was big news in my area. Made me sick, angry, sad, infuriated...you name the negative emotion, I felt it.

510 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:33:36pm

re: #490 CIA Reject

I think it's strictly an RF thing...

Yeah, so I gathered from that other link above, giving the comprehensive list of all the different meanings of "cone of silence" and where they appeared.

Pity, the Dune version would have been cool to play with. :D

511 scandalous?  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:34:06pm

No luck JQuery flipping in Firefox Version 3
Also, I see "Top Rated Links" as disabled!
...
All is fine in IE7
...

512 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:34:32pm

re: #496 wolfie

I hadn't seen it since it first came out and was pleasantly surprised that it was still a great movie.
I don't mind Newman's politics that much...(relatively speaking.) Redford, OIOH...moonbat for sure.

My favorite scene is the I-can't-swim one.

"Ah, think ya used enough dynamite there Butch?"

/My favorite

513 mikeymom  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:34:35pm

i have to leave--good night all-God bless one and all--and one last comment--fav movie--Rob roy--liam niesson--"You are so fine to me Mary Macgregor" and when his wife lifts his kilt and sits on his lap--OMG!

514 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:34:49pm

re: #494 realwest

Hey - no I didn't see him posting anything - do you remember where or when?
(We had yet another series of violent T-Storms and Lightning today and lost power for a few hours AGAIN. This is getting OLD).

In the Jindal thread

He also spent some time in the next thread after that.

515 jaunte  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:35:25pm

Candidates just miss turning each other into frogs:
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

516 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:35:47pm

re: #500 realwest

Doin' OK, my friend. I'll send one off before I retire. By the way, USMC came online on the Gitmo thread, IIRC.

517 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:36:28pm

re: #501 Karridine

Yeppir to that, Wolfie... and I liked Newman in Cars, and in Road to Perdition...

I've never seen those. Maybe I need to have a Newman-fest some weekend!

(writing titles down on paper...the way this dinosaur does it!)

518 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:36:43pm

re: #508 daniel_ream

Have seen no features in 2007 that would push us to upgrade. There were some in Excel 2003 that forced us to upgrade from 2000 (for quite a few users). The only reason we are purchasing any new licenses is for this reason. We had enough to cover all users until that happened.

519 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:37:14pm

re: #509 Slumbering Behemoth

That's horrble what happened to the child!
I'm glad that the officer perforated the S.O.B.

520 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:37:30pm

re: #504 Mich-again

HA. 3:00! If you like beer you'll get along just fine with my family.

Sigh. Had to give that up a while back. You're family would have loved me a couple of years ago. ;-)

521 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:37:53pm

Gotta run along, may drop back in later tonight. If not tomorrow all supposed to be a scorcher in Seattle hi 80's. (we're talking people dropping in the streets from the heat / ).

522 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:37:58pm

re: #493 Karridine Um, well to the extent they were (in real life) outlaws, then yes, of course they were losers. As for obsolete, I don't think so, age wise. But they did hit the real Wild West at the end of it - the introduction of not just telegraph, but also railroads and railroad private cops - almost all of the movie (except the dialogue) was TRUE - they were hounded all over the West by Railroad hired "super marshalls and scouts" until they did flee the country for, ultimately, Bolivia and death.
And no, I don't think there was anything very "romantic" about real Wild West outlaws, myself.

523 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:38:09pm

re: #508 daniel_ream
Oh, and we are a Notes shop so Exchange is a non-issue.

524 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:39:40pm

re: #521 jcm

Gotta run along, may drop back in later tonight. If not tomorrow all supposed to be a scorcher in Seattle hi 80's. (we're talking people dropping in the streets from the heat / ).

I gotta go too.
Bye!

525 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:39:51pm

re: #508 daniel_ream
Oh, and we are a Notes shop so Exchange Outlook is a non-issue.

526 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:40:35pm

re: #512 CIA Reject

LOL !
Not to mention "Esto es un robo" w/ the Spanish phrase book!

Believe it or not, I actually saw that movie in Bolivia when it was first released. (born & grew up there.) The Bolivian scenes had the audience doubled over in laughter.

527 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:40:50pm

Good night all! I am signing off also. Early morning fishing trip planned.

528 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:41:00pm

re: #525 Dolphin

re: #508 daniel_ream
Oh, and we are a Notes shop so Exchange Outlookhouse is a non-issue.

529 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:41:47pm

re: #527 Dolphin

Good night all! I am signing off also. Early morning fishing trip planned.

Fishing for dolphin?

530 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:42:17pm

re: #528 CIA Reject

LOL. Wouldn't know. Never used it! Fortunately.

531 Dolphin  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:43:07pm

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

Trout, Red Fish, Flounder.. Not picky as long as I catch something (other than Hardheads).

532 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:43:08pm

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

Fishing for dolphin?

You are bad, bad, bad. ;)

533 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:43:15pm

re: #493 Karridine

Hey Karridine, good to see you here. Have the demonstrations started over this yet?

534 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:43:39pm

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

Fishing for dolphin?

"Mom, the tuna just doesn't taste like it used to!"

/Rush parody

535 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:43:41pm

re: #526 wolfie

LOL !
Not to mention "Esto es un robo" w/ the Spanish phrase book!

Believe it or not, I actually saw that movie in Bolivia when it was first released. (born & grew up there.) The Bolivian scenes had the audience doubled over in laughter.

Yes, I think Hollywood's depiction of anything must be pretty darn funny to somebody who has actual first hand knowledge of that thing.

536 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:44:08pm

re: #532 wolfie

You are bad, bad, bad. ;)

He does it on porpoise.

537 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:44:08pm

re: #496 wolfie Yeah, I liked that scene a lot too - hell I've seen that movie enough to be able to recite the dialogue almost verbatim!
My two favorite scene were in the opening sequences (filmed in sorta sepia coloring) where Butch walked into an old bank he'd robbed years before and saw BIG, Burly Armed Guards, Bars on the tellers windows and asks the One Armed Guard who's locking up "What happened to the beautiful old bank?" The guard replies "people kept robbing it!" and Butch's response was "Small price to pay for beauty"!
And the other is when they literally blew the express coach of the train into pieces, bills and banknotes flying through the air, and Sundance turns to Butch and says "Uh, say there Butch, think you used enough dynamite?!" LOL!

538 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:45:51pm

re: #530 Dolphin

LOL. Wouldn't know. Never used it! Fortunately.

Just an involuntary word substitution- for some unexplained reason it has become a habit. :-)

539 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:45:52pm

re: #536 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He does it on porpoise.

Oh, you make me eel... :-P

540 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:46:11pm

re: #531 Dolphin

Trout, Red Fish, Flounder.. Not picky as long as I catch something (other than Hardheads).

I'm going to the Outer Banks in August for vacation. I intend to catch plenty of fish.

541 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:47:16pm

re: #536 pre-Boomer Marine brat

ROFL :D

542 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:47:29pm

re: #505 realwest

Yeah HS. He's just 16 and was the Salutarian. Free ride to College all lined up. We bought him a new car with some of the cash he saved us. But I've been warning him that it all starts over in the Fall and no one will give a hoot what he did in HS.

On the down side though my Father in Law is won't make it because he is losing a long battle with cancer and it doesn't look good. We're going to see him in the morning at the hospital and try to bring some comfort. He made it to the graduation ceremony a few weeks ago to see his grandson's speech and I could tell then he wasn't doing well. He is such a strong anti-idiotarian. I'm really gonna miss that guy. He has always shunned religion, but he lived a very admirable life. And he fought it hard. Surgery, radiation, chemo. Its tough to watch someone fight so hard and still lose.

543 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:47:38pm

re: #539 NomadOfNorad

Oh, you make me eel... :-P

*barf*
I've gotta ... GOTTA... go!
Puns are habit-forming!
ARRRGGGHH
Bye for good this time.

544 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:47:48pm

re: #540 NJDhockeyfan

I used to go there often. Great spot. I hear it has really changed since the 70s.

545 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:48:22pm

If you don't stop it, I'll gill you all!

546 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:50:11pm

re: #514 pre-Boomer Marine brat Thank you kindly for that one. USMC 1968 has completely stopped responding to my e-mails and I'm very glad that he thinks he'll make it to Christmas!

547 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:50:49pm

re: #540 NJDhockeyfan

I'm going to the Outer Banks in August for vacation. I intend to catch plenty of fish.

That was our family vacation spot when I was growing up. What a great place.

548 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:50:51pm

re: #543 pre-Boomer Marine brat

No, it's Tolkein that's Hobbit forming.

/ducking

549 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:52:00pm

I don't know if this has probably been covered.

On Properly Insulting Our Enemies Properly

If we want to say what we mean, what terms better describe Qaeda members and other violent extremists? “Muharib” or the more colloquial “hirabi” or “hirabist” would be good places to start. “Hirabah,” the base word, is a term for barbarism or piracy. Unlike “jihad,” which grants honor, “hirabah” brings condemnation; it involves unlawful violence and disorder.

Fits what I feel. If I'm going to insult someone, the more rhetorical zing I can get with my comment the better.

550 scandalous?  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:52:31pm

Geez .. Firebug indicates JQuery not defined.
How could that be the case?

551 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:52:41pm

re: #516 Cartman
I'd appreciate it, but again, no pressure on you to send that e-mail to me tongiht - I hope to turn in earlier than usual myself.
And yeah, pre-Boomer Marine brat was kind enough to advise me that USMC 1968 had been around some today!

552 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:53:38pm

re: #544 rawmuse

I used to go there often. Great spot. I hear it has really changed since the 70s.

We usually stay in the main part. This year I wanted to be in a quieter place so we rented a house in Waves.

553 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:54:11pm

Hello All,

So, anything happening (besides the interesting polling numbers)?

554 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:55:10pm

re: #553 hermeneutics

So, anything happening (besides the interesting polling numbers)?

Umm, what polling numbers?

555 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:56:07pm

re: #545 wolfie

If you don't stop it, I'll gill you all!

Oh, no. You didn't.

556 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:56:14pm

re: #553 hermeneutics

We're all going fishing for dolphin tomorrow, followed by a party with BBQ ribs & brisket.

557 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:56:34pm

re: #553 hermeneutics

Child abuse, fish puns, Butch Cassidy, and anal probes.

What are the interesting polling numbers?

558 kevinmumaw  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:57:29pm

OT/ Mossad Chief Empowered to Prepare Groundwork for Iran Strike


The timing chosen for extending the Mossad chief’s tenure – early summer of 2008 – is indicative. Israeli intelligence estimates the summer months are critical for acting against Iran’s nuclear advances, especially uranium enrichment which Iran refuses to forego. If it is not stopped by September or October of 2008, it will be too late; Iran will have crossed the threshold to the last lap of its military program.

Israeli intelligence and its armed forces have three months to finish the job which has long been in preparation.

Should be an interesting summer.

559 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:57:50pm

re: #553 hermeneutics

Hello All,

So, anything happening (besides the interesting polling numbers)?

Go away before it's too late!

560 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:57:53pm

re: #554 Mich-again

Umm, what polling numbers?

Oh, I thought you wouldn't ask ... Ohio. Survey USA has McCain down by two. Interestingly, though, no matter what veep you add to McCain, he comes a lot closer, sometimes winning.

And the internals show an overpolling of urban D areas and underpolling of rural R areas.

SUSA is a silly poll which can be all over the place, but the internals of this poll are fascinating and encouraging.

Bottom line: Ohio goes to McCain.

561 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:57:56pm

BBQ'd Dolphin Brisket! Yummy!

562 MacGregor  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:57:58pm

re: #513 mikeymom

Never misunderestimate the utility of a kilt!

Do you know why taliban robes have no zippers?
Goats can hear 'em a mile away.

563 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:58:16pm

re: #526 wolfie Really? I'd a thought the Bolivians would have been pretty pissed off to see their Laguardia Nacional running away from all but the last "shoot out"!
BTW, there have been rumors circulating for about 100 years, that Butch wasn't in that last shootout, it was Sundance and someone else and that Butch was seen by his sister and two neighbors back on his sister's ranch in the early 1920's.
And another great line - as they are both shot to hell and hold up against about a million Bolivian Army troops and Butch says "Next time when I say we're going to Mexico, that's what we're gonna do" and Sundance retorts "Yeah, NEXT TIME!" and then they rush out, guns ablazing and die.

564 mikulla  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:58:18pm

Horray for non-obtrusive javascript. I'm working on my photography site re-design and I will be implementing jquery for some much needed functionality and organization. Keep up the good work Charles and continue to push the geek envelope further. Oh, and keep telling us about your changes. Some of us really appreciate it.

565 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:59:02pm

So howz the truce going in Gaza? And do dolphins even have a brisket?

566 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 8:59:07pm

re: #559 MandyManners

Go away before it's too late!

i'll disappear if it gets nasty. Always do. In an election year, and an important one, it seems like we've got to hold the coalition together ... not rip it apart.

How are you Mandy?

567 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:00:22pm

re: #552 NJDhockeyfan

I know it well. Be careful, when swimming. My brother in law met his drowning death there in 1998. Rip tides are bad.

568 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:00:40pm

re: #557 wolfie

Child abuse, fish puns, Butch Cassidy, and anal probes.

Fish puns could be fun.

569 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:01:44pm
570 kevinmumaw  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:02:06pm

re: #560 hermeneutics

Oh, I thought you wouldn't ask ... Ohio. Survey USA has McCain down by two. Interestingly, though, no matter what veep you add to McCain, he comes a lot closer, sometimes winning.

And the internals show an overpolling of urban D areas and underpolling of rural R areas.

SUSA is a silly poll which can be all over the place, but the internals of this poll are fascinating and encouraging.

Bottom line: Ohio goes to McCain.

And Missouri as well.

571 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:02:10pm

re: #568 hermeneutics

Fish puns could be fun.

Just for the halibut, eh?

572 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:02:18pm

re: #566 hermeneutics

i'll disappear if it gets nasty. Always do. In an election year, and an important one, it seems like we've got to hold the coalition together ... not rip it apart.

How are you Mandy?

I'm just fine! How are you and yours?

573 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:02:27pm

re: #542 Mich-again Well you sure have every right to be proud of your son!
And I'm really sorry to hear about your FIL. Shit, cancer is a major league bitch, no matter how long you fight it or how hard. I'm glad that he did at least get to see his grandson's graduation and speech.
Prayers going up for him and the whole family and best wishes and congratulations to your son!

574 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:02:31pm

re: #567 rawmuse

I know it well. Be careful, when swimming. My brother in law met his drowning death there in 1998. Rip tides are bad.

Sorry to hear that. I'm not going out very far...my twin girls (6 years old) willo have a blast on the beach. I'm going fishing.

575 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:02:57pm

Took the 13YO to baseball All Star practice tonite. re: #568 hermeneutics

Fish puns could be fun.

Did someone say Kip Adotta?

576 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:03:41pm

re: #570 kevinmumaw

And Missouri as well.

Yes, Missouri looks good. But Ohio was more iffy. I'd like to see some decent Michigan polls ... and Pennsylvania.

577 kevinmumaw  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:03:46pm

re: #569 MandyManners

Oy vey. Was he singing in Fwench?

578 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:04:19pm

re: #571 NomadOfNorad

Please stop! I'm Floundering!

579 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:04:45pm

re: #568 hermeneutics

Fish puns could be fun.

When You Fish Upon A Star

580 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:05:04pm

re: #577 kevinmumaw

Oy vey. Was he singing in Fwench?

Not just that.

581 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:05:17pm

re: #573 realwest

Thanks. I know you have personal knowledge of these things and I value your thoughts on the matter.

582 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:06:23pm

re: #563 realwest

No, they thought it was hilarious. If it had been a serious drama they would have been annoyed, but the whole story of the gringos muddling through and then the Bolivians bumbling was just plain funny all around.

583 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:06:23pm

re: #568 hermeneutics
Nah, you get hooked on 'em and can't stop!

584 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:07:45pm

re: #583 realwest

Nah, you get hooked on 'em and can't stop!

Hi Real -- All reasonably well with you today?

585 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:07:59pm

re: #568 hermeneutics

Alas, no can do.
I silently promised Mandy I was fin-ished with that.

586 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:09:30pm

re: #576 hermeneutics

Yes, Missouri looks good. But Ohio was more iffy. I'd like to see some decent Michigan polls ... and Pennsylvania.

If McCain drives the ANWR issue he can win here. There is no good reason to watch our economy swirl down the toilet for lack of oil while we refuse to drill for the oil we know is there. Obama will lose Michigan if he insists on not utilizing ANWR.

587 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:10:03pm

Well bless my Dover sole!
Did we kill the thread?

588 CIA Reject  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:10:16pm

Well, it's been a real pleasure chatting with you all but it's getting late so to paraphrase George Burns:

Say good night Reject


Good night Reject!

/I'll clam up now...

589 joecitizen  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:10:44pm

Holy Mackerel! That evolution thread is STILL hummin' along...

590 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:11:02pm

Wolfie, I'm intrigued with that college (St. John's) and their Great books-based curriculum. Amazing, really, that this sort of pegagogy still exists. Profs are called tutors and have to teach every subject, even those outside of their discipline. For a generalist, this is thrilling!

591 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:11:03pm

Dang. It is raining again here. Joe Dimaggio's streak is in jeopardy.

592 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:11:25pm

re: #589 joecitizen

Which one?

593 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:11:27pm

AIYEEE!

594 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:12:03pm

re: #582 wolfie Huh, well yeah I reckon you're right about that! Didn't see it from the Bolivian pov!
BTW, Etta Pace (Sundance and probably Butch's girlfriend who tried to teach them Spanish, was a real person, her history is fairly well known, but there's no trace of her after she split from the two of them prior to their final shoot out. I've seen a photo of the real "Wild Bunch" and it's amazing how similar Newman and Redford look in the movie to their real life counterparts and a photo of Etta Pace also looks remarkably like what's her name who played her in the movie.
They did do an awful lot of historical research before they made that flick and kept pretty close to the real life story line.

595 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:12:16pm

re: #593 MandyManners

What would you do without a CAPS LOCK key?

596 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:12:20pm

re: #482 jcm

People stood by? WTF?

If I saw something like that, he'd be praying for the round in forehead, cause I wouldn't let 'em off that easy.

I do foster care and have some pretty beat up kids in my house. My adopted 3 year son was beat up pretty bad.

They said they were looking for rocks or a board to hit him with. Surely they had a tire iron in the trunk to change tires. Just horrible is all I can say of this...were was mom too?
/God bless the beasts and children they have no voice and they have no choice.

597 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:12:35pm

re: #586 Mich-again

If McCain drives the ANWR issue he can win here. There is no good reason to watch our economy swirl down the toilet for lack of oil while we refuse to drill for the oil we know is there. Obama will lose Michigan if he insists on not utilizing ANWR.

Mich, Why would MO, PA or OH be particularly concerned about ANWR? Just asking. Are you suggesting that McCain nationalize the issue, or that these states or their region are more impacted.

Please explain.

598 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:13:05pm

re: #595 Mich-again

What would you do without a CAPS LOCK key?

Hold down the SHIT key.

599 sadhu  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:13:12pm

check this --- out!

[Link: www.marcnorton.us...]

600 joecitizen  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:14:00pm

re: #590 hermeneutics

Wolfie, I'm intrigued with that college (St. John's) and their Great books-based curriculum. Amazing, really, that this sort of pegagogy still exists. Profs are called tutors and have to teach every subject, even those outside of their discipline. For a generalist, this is thrilling!


heard about this school last year,downloaded the reading lists and am SLOWLY making my way through,filling in my personal gaps..interesting what a self confessing 'well read' fellow has missed along the way...

601 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:14:18pm

re: #586 Mich-again

Same here in the Queen City of the West.
Even the most ardent Democratic Party supporter I have talked to understands the problem with the energy supply ie: Gas Prices.
If McCain can press his points on energy policy home, he'll win here.
It's more complicated than just Gas, but most of them get the point.

602 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:14:33pm

re: #584 hermeneutics
Yep, thanks! Except for another damn power outtage! Four hours worth this time - no lights (except flashlights and a few candles) no TV and worst of all, no Internet and no LGF!
I was starting to get the yips there for a minute or two! LOL!
How was you're day?

603 joecitizen  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:14:46pm

re: #592 rawmuse

Which one?


heh..perhaps ALL of 'em...

604 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:15:28pm

re: #600 joecitizen

heard about this school last year,downloaded the reading lists and am SLOWLY making my way through,filling in my personal gaps..interesting what a self confessing 'well read' fellow has missed along the way...

I read through about half of the list, too. My high school education was so bad that I had to make up for it ... after college, before grad school.

Where did you hear about the school?

605 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:16:11pm

Good FNDT Lizards! It's still thick, but not so hot in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

All this talk about cat's pajama's, I have to wonder if our Cat Overlords are really the inventors of the internet. They have algore brainwashed.

How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?

606 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:16:53pm

re: #586 Mich-again
I wonder how many Michigan Dems are pissed off at the DNC for counting them as "half-people" at the convention, when it was Obama who decided not to get his name on the ballot there?
BTW, I think Florida is a lock for McCain, too.

607 joecitizen  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:17:20pm

re: #604 hermeneutics

I read through about half of the list, too. My high school education was so bad that I had to make up for it ... after college, before grad school.

Where did you hear about the school?


I believe it was referenced on an internet library site..or perhaps here?

608 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:17:35pm

Goodness. I'm an idiot.

609 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:17:39pm

re: #587 wolfie
Yep, hook, line and sinker! And on dry land, too! LOL!

610 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:19:10pm

re: #602 realwest

Yep, thanks! Except for another damn power outtage! Four hours worth this time - no lights (except flashlights and a few candles) no TV and worst of all, no Internet and no LGF!
I was starting to get the yips there for a minute or two! LOL!
How was you're day?

My day was very fine. I watched kids prepare for the winter olympics (not mine) at the Utah training center. Ski jumping. They go down "slopes" covered with something that looks like carpet into a deep pool that has air bubbles for boyancy. They're so cute!

Then I watched a different set of kids (including mine) try to win the national cycling championships in dual slalom. Again, quite fun. My kid does endurance and races tomorrow at 8am. He hopes to make the olympic team in four years. We'll see.

611 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:19:17pm

re: #608 MandyManners

Not!

612 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:19:39pm

re: #597 hermeneutics

Please explain.

Well When I said "here" I meant my home state. Not so much OH, PA, or MO. But The same goes in those States I guess. Particularly OH and MO with lots of autoworkers.

The blue collar voter is fed up to here with the Chicken Little crapola about global warming and $4+ gasoline. So to base a campaign on more domestic oil production might just convince them to abandon the plantation of Democratic idealism about global warming.

613 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:20:07pm

re: #600 joecitizen

St. John's (if it is the same one I am thinking of) is suppossed to have one of the best Master's programs around. All based on a classical curriculum --logic, socratic method --etc. One of the teachers I know said that if you get thru the program you will definitely be able to THINK.

I read a book by one of their staff (or graduates--I can't remember) about using the socratic method to teach elementary students to think. I read to help me as a parent, and was much impressed.

614 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:20:42pm

re: #611 Electron Shuffler

Not!

Oh, yes.

615 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:20:45pm

I need to learn to spell.

616 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:21:47pm

re: #608 MandyManners

I hope you got your favorites straight and sorted.
I found where they live on my computer.
How they do it is a mess to my programmer mind.
I like Firefox's way a lot better.

617 sadhu  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:22:14pm

I just can't believe Marxists are still around. It's so intellectually lazy.

618 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:22:24pm

re: #612 Mich-again

Well When I said "here" I meant my home state. Not so much OH, PA, or MO. But The same goes in those States I guess. Particularly OH and MO with lots of autoworkers.

The blue collar voter is fed up to here with the Chicken Little crapola about global warming and $4+ gasoline. So to base a campaign on more domestic oil production might just convince them to abandon the plantation of Democratic idealism about global warming.

Great news, Mich. I hope it extends to other states as well. The oil prices are probably hurting the auto industry too.

The auto industry isn't quite as big a deal in Michigan as it was in the 2004 election, right?

619 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:22:30pm

Someone please tell Noam that our wedding is on again if he gets me this instead of the bucket of sapphires in his garage.

620 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:22:31pm

re: #590 hermeneutics

They are one of a kind places.
And their graduates are well prepared to tackle any field, definitely including the sciences.

There are also 2 Catholic schools very much like St Johns that you might want to look at...Thomas Aquinas in Ojai, Ca and Thomas More in NH. They are cheaper, but also very good.

621 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:22:40pm

re: #599 sadhu I did and damn near threw up! Why'd you bother posting that?

622 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:23:00pm

re: #608 MandyManners

Goodness. I'm an idiot.

I'm not sure what caused you to say this, but you're anything but stupid, Mandy. And you know it. :)

623 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:23:03pm

Wow, someone just took a shot at a city bus and hit it.

/another Friday night in North Minneapolis

624 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:23:43pm

re: #618 hermeneutics

The auto industry isn't quite as big a deal in Michigan as it was in the 2004 election, right?

HuH? It is still the straw that stirs the drink very much so.

625 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:24:10pm

re: #602 realwest

Yep, thanks! Except for another damn power outtage! Four hours worth this time - no lights (except flashlights and a few candles) no TV and worst of all, no Internet and no LGF!
I was starting to get the yips there for a minute or two! LOL!
How was you're day?


Sorry to hear that! I had to go a couple of days without LGF.
My laptop went bust with my foot. ( I trip on it while getting up).
Now on my new laptop...still miss my old one.

626 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:24:39pm

re: #616 Electron Shuffler

I hope you got your favorites straight and sorted.
I found where they live on my computer.
How they do it is a mess to my programmer mind.
I like Firefox's way a lot better.

I'm still trying to figure out Word under Vista.

627 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:24:56pm

re: #594 realwest

The rumor in Bolivia is that Etta stayed in Bolivia and married a boliviano, but no one has ever proved it. Many Americans have tried to verify this to no avail, so it's doubtful.

628 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:25:18pm

re: #620 wolfie

They are one of a kind places.
And their graduates are well prepared to tackle any field, definitely including the sciences.

There are also 2 Catholic schools very much like St Johns that you might want to look at...Thomas Aquinas in Ojai, Ca and Thomas More in NH. They are cheaper, but also very good.

I was looking at them today, too! Honestly, it seems overwhelming to teach subjects that I can barely pronouce. Okay, exaggeration -- still, music theory, for example?

I'm fluent in classical greek so that should help. But, the idea of teaching like this is both threatening and exciting. Let me make it clear -- we're at the talking stage, no more. No offers, etc.

629 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:25:21pm

re: #615 hermeneutics

I need to learn to spell.


Sew due I.

630 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:26:04pm

re: #605 ggt Hi ya ggt!
Well SOME folks (ain't mentioning any names!) are doing some pretty bad fish(ing) puns, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (the movie), some tech stuff I don't understand and the usual assortment of other matters!
How are y'all doing out there in Chicago land? I hear His Majesty the Mayor was pretty pissed off about the Heller decision!?

631 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:26:16pm

re: #622 hermeneutics

I'm not sure what caused you to say this, but you're anything but stupid, Mandy. And you know it. :)

No. 598.

632 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:26:19pm

re: #600 joecitizen

Good for you!
I've been promising myself to do the same, but...

633 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:27:08pm

re: #608 MandyManners
Uh, actually I think you're one of the smartest posters out here; why do you think you're an idiot?!

634 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:27:16pm

re: #619 MandyManners

Someone please tell Noam that our wedding is on again if he gets me this instead of the bucket of sapphires in his garage.

Sure do like that thar ceement pod in front. Wheee doggies!

635 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:27:22pm

re: #626 MandyManners

I saw that.

They can give me Vista when they pry XP Pro, and Mac Os X 10.4 from my cold dead fingers.

636 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:28:16pm

re: #626 MandyManners

I'm still trying to figure out Word under Vista.

Good luck with that. Word and Vista are pretty much incompatible. Let me guess. You hit the print button and the Document disappears. So then you retype the Document, save it, reboot the computer, call up Word, try to print it, and it disappears again like you never saved it...

Been there, done that. I use notepad now.

637 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:28:19pm

re: #625 Suzette

Sorry to hear that! I had to go a couple of days without LGF.
My laptop went bust with my foot. ( I trip on it while getting up).
Now on my new laptop...still miss my old one.

Oh, horrors. I hired a guy to clean all the carpets a couple years ago and as he moved furniture a nine-foot bookcase came crashing down on my open laptop. I can still see the bookcase falling in slow-motion. And the crunching sound as three months of unsaved writing disappeared.

I learned to back up whatever is important at least every other week. Hard lesson to learn.

638 WindHorse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:28:35pm

Mandy,

Give yourself a break. Remember, you have been battling Word 2007.
We unnerstand.

639 sadhu  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:28:58pm

re: #621 realwest

I did and damn near threw up! Why'd you bother posting that?

I'm sorry my brother realwest.

I am so outraged by this crap in our great country --- it's intolerable. I post it only to flush it out/down with a sincere and kind hope that it may someday be sent down the toilet once and for all. It has no place but there.

640 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:29:07pm

re: #600 joecitizen

heard about this school last year,downloaded the reading lists and am SLOWLY making my way through,filling in my personal gaps..interesting what a self confessing 'well read' fellow has missed along the way...

Be glad you're not downloading it at 300 baud (to return to the earlier ancient-computer-tech part of the thread...) :D

641 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:29:16pm

re: #612 Mich-again Yeah, but didn't the AFL/CIO just endorse Obama yesterday?

642 joecitizen  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:29:40pm

re: #613 ggt

St. John's (if it is the same one I am thinking of) is suppossed to have one of the best Master's programs around. All based on a classical curriculum --logic, socratic method --etc. One of the teachers I know said that if you get thru the program you will definitely be able to THINK.

I read a book by one of their staff (or graduates--I can't remember) about using the socratic method to teach elementary students to think. I read to help me as a parent, and was much impressed.


it really is a valuable resource..I realize that,with the value placed on specialization,we couldn't have this across all college education..but ponder for a moment the educated mass of people we would have in this country if you taught the first 2 years of this during junior and senior years in high school,and then REQUIRED the last 2 years during freshman and sophomore years in college! only then could you specialize...

643 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:30:03pm

Gonna' try to figure out some Vista issues.

bbl

644 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:30:23pm

re: #629 MandyManners

Sew due I.

Dont teese me.

645 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:30:48pm

I'm not normally a MS basher, but Vista sure is turning out to be the proverbial polished turd, IMO.

646 joecitizen  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:31:14pm

re: #619 MandyManners

Someone please tell Noam that our wedding is on again if he gets me this instead of the bucket of sapphires in his garage.


I'd tear down most of that monstrosity for more land and garden space...

647 Electron Shuffler  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:32:47pm

Gnite all from teh Queen City of the West
It's 0:30 and there are Thunderpoppers approching.
Time for bed and to unplug things so my modem does not get roasted.

You guys and gals are the best on the web!
Thank's Charles!
- Electron Shuffler

648 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:33:15pm

re: #641 realwest

Yeah, but didn't the AFL/CIO just endorse Obama yesterday?

The AFL/CIO has no influence on the UAW, Heck the UAW has no stranglehold on its own dues-paying members. If they did, there would never have been such a thing as the Reagan Democrat.

I say this is the key for McCain. Expand domestic oil production.

649 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:34:05pm

Habit of Thought by Michael Strong is the book I was talking about.

650 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:34:10pm

re: #627 wolfie Well it woulda made sense - there were warrants out for her arrest in Colorado, Utah, Idaho and I think Arizona - for her work as an accomplice to B &S.
But, as in real life and in the movie, she was also an accomplice to them in Bolivia so who knows?
As I said, it's my favorite Movie of all time, but those people in real life were not so pleasant nor funny. NOT the kind I'd want to go out drinking with!

651 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:34:18pm

re: #619 MandyManners

Someone please tell Noam that our wedding is on again if he gets me this instead of the bucket of sapphires in his garage.

WOW! Now THAT'S a HOUSE!

My own tastes go more in the direction of retro-future houses, though.

652 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:34:35pm

re: #647 Electron Shuffler

You guys and gals are the best on the web!

Tell us something we didn't already know! HA!

653 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:34:50pm

re: #637 hermeneutics

Oh, horrors. I hired a guy to clean all the carpets a couple years ago and as he moved furniture a nine-foot bookcase came crashing down on my open laptop. I can still see the bookcase falling in slow-motion. And the crunching sound as three months of unsaved writing disappeared.

I learned to back up whatever is important at least every other week. Hard lesson to learn.

I have a techie son---so it helps. But I damn near broke my foot in the process also. Now I have Vista and I miss my old laptop...
Cat dying, computer broken, and near break of my foot all in about four days. :(

654 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:35:10pm

re: #642 joecitizen

it really is a valuable resource..I realize that,with the value placed on specialization,we couldn't have this across all college education..but ponder for a moment the educated mass of people we would have in this country if you taught the first 2 years of this during junior and senior years in high school,and then REQUIRED the last 2 years during freshman and sophomore years in college! only then could you specialize...

It is too bad that Univ of Chicago gave up its Great Books program for undergrads just as Stanford gave up Western Civ. These colleges are quite small and their graduate classes are often less than 200 students. Its a drop in the bucket.

But this is my dream of an education -- this is how kids should be educated. The Harvard Classics, another version of Great Books, used to be required reading BEFORE attending Harvard. Now, many Ivy grads have never read, or even heard, of these books.

Its tragic. We're losing touch with our intellectual history.

655 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:36:35pm

re: #629 MandyManners

Putt knot yore trussed inn spill chequers.

656 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:36:50pm

re: #637 hermeneutics

Sorry to hear about your laptop too! I know how you must have felt.

657 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:36:56pm

re: #653 Suzette

I have a techie son---so it helps. But I damn near broke my foot in the process also. Now I have Vista and I miss my old laptop...
Cat dying, computer broken, and near break of my foot all in about four days. :(

Take care of yourself Suzette. Your foot is on the mend and you have a new computer -- good news! Sorry about the cat, though. That must hurt.

658 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:37:35pm

re: #610 hermeneutics
Wow, athetic kids you've got there - I've never heard of bicycing slalom though.
Does your son really have a shot at making the 2012 Olympic Squad?
That is SOOO cool!

659 sadhu  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:38:24pm

apologies for my rambling

it's sometimes very disheartening, all that is going on --- I am concerned for my kids, and the future, and the world before them

the discourse and circumstances have really deteriorated -- rapidly it seems

what will happen? I hardly know anyone who cares. Many here do of coure. Are we a minority? I hope not.

What a world.

660 Render  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:38:41pm

re: #653 Suzette

(Suzette)

MISSING
TIGERS,
R

661 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:38:59pm

re: #630 realwest

Hey you! Yes, The Big Dick is fit-to-be-tied. And The Chicago Gun Case has already been filed. This and the Denver Convention--all in one summer. Is there enough popcorn?

If you emailed me about your health, I haven't read it yet. I still haven't gotten everything sorted out on MY NEW LAPTOP. Which, I am very happy with --the old one was a lost cause and the warranty provided a replacement. I got an upgrade and paid the difference.

662 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:39:34pm

re: #658 realwest

Wow, athetic kids you've got there - I've never heard of bicycing slalom though.
Does your son really have a shot at making the 2012 Olympic Squad?
That is SOOO cool!

Yea, conservative cyclist has made the first cut (of many). The first cut is the deepest, though. :)

He does cross country (endurance) cycling. Again, we'll see.

663 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:39:40pm

re: #645 Cartman

I'm not normally a MS basher, but Vista sure is turning out to be the proverbial polished turd, IMO.

Oh gosh! Don't tell me that ...had to get a new laptop today...
natch w/vista!

664 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:39:42pm

re: #623 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian - don't know why, but when I read your post you seemed more surprised by the fact that someone actually HIT the bus as the fact that someone shot at it!
Man, I've heard of running for the bus, but I never thought to shoot at it to get it to stop for you!

665 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:40:32pm

re: #659 sadhu

No need to apologize! I read your posts, nothing unreasonable there.

666 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:41:22pm

re: #642 joecitizen

I'd be happy if students all students were required to take one year of logic. Is it too much to ask?

667 sadhu  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:41:47pm

re: #665 rawmuse

No need to apologize! I read your posts, nothing unreasonable there.

thanks

chin up!

668 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:42:01pm

re: #653 Suzette

I can still see the bookcase falling in slow-motion.

Between songs during band practice years ago the phone rang and I set my "71 Les Paul in the stand and walked away to answer the phone. But the cord got hung up in my shoe as I walked away and the guitar fell to the concrete floor. I remember it like it was 5 seconds ago. The guitar hit the floor and the neck snapped in half. Oh god it still hurts to relive that moment when the world stopped as I watched it fall. Yes, I cried.

Good news though. I had the guitar fixed by a master craftsman who lived way out in the sticks. God bless you Park Prator! And 25 years later I still play that same Les Paul all the time and the evidence of the broken neck is imperceptible to anyone I dare to find it.

669 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:42:10pm

[Link: news.aol.com...]

THE POLAR BEARS ARE GONNA' DIE.

670 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:42:40pm

re: #663 Suzette

Oh gosh! Don't tell me that ...had to get a new laptop today...
natch w/vista!

Vista requires serious horsepower to run decently. M$ greatly under reports the hardware need. The graphics card especially, 256MB 3D DirectX card or better, per screen. If you've got shared memory which many laptops do, Vista gets seriously bogged down.

671 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:43:01pm

re: #666 ggt

I'd be happy if students all students were required to take one year of logic. Is it too much to ask?

Yes. Ninety-percent of them would fail.

672 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:43:25pm

re: #666 ggt

I'd be happy if students all students were required to take one year of logic. Is it too much to ask?

Latin, logic, rhetoric, civics.

673 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:43:29pm

re: #657 hermeneutics

True two out of three isn't bad. Plus although my foot hurts to walk on it...it doesn't hurt if I don't put wait on it which is a very good thing. :)
/it looks bad though...all black and blue

674 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:43:35pm

Wish me luck, guys. I get my head examined in the morning (MRI). I went from getting a migraine once every few years to once every few days. Probably just age, but they want to be sure it is nothing more serious than that.

675 rawmuse  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:43:43pm

re: #669 MandyManners

They will have to adapt. Just like they did when they became polar bears.

676 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:44:00pm

re: #663 Suzette

I've been very happy with Vista. I have Microsoft Office for Vista and it all seems to work fine.

677 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:44:01pm

re: #671 hermeneutics

Yah think?!?!? :D :D :D

678 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:44:33pm

re: #660 Render


{Render}! Thanks...that meant a lot! :)

679 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:44:37pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet?

Wishing you luck and prayers too.

680 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:44:50pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet?

Wish me luck, guys. I get my head examined in the morning (MRI). I went from getting a migraine once every few years to once every few days. Probably just age, but they want to be sure it is nothing more serious than that.

Prayers for negative results!

681 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:45:02pm

re: #649 ggt So, no response to my comment about your Mayor and Heller?!

682 mikeysdca  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:45:12pm

As a connoisseur of chaos, I find myself looking forward to the Dhimmi convention. Every loose nut will be there, the logistics will be a disaster, etc. Such fun!

683 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:46:12pm

re: #663 Suzette

Oh gosh! Don't tell me that ...had to get a new laptop today...
natch w/vista!

Oh, it's not all that bad. Sorry! It's actually got some nice new features - if you can find them. It's just that such a ballyhooed major release of an operating system should have yielded a much better product, IMO.

684 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:46:22pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet?

Wish me luck, guys. I get my head examined in the morning (MRI). I went from getting a migraine once every few years to once every few days. Probably just age, but they want to be sure it is nothing more serious than that.

I hope nothing serious is wrong.

If your brain is fine, try braces. Worked for me. I'm still not sure why.

685 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:46:41pm

re: #672 jcm

Music to my ears. The basic education until --when? 1920? That means all these dead white man subjects were the basis for the education for Fredrick Douglas, Booker T Washington and WEB Dubois (and I think Ghandi --has he was educated in Englad-IIRC). Something the modern civil rights leaders seem to have "overlooked".

686 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:46:47pm

re: #677 NomadOfNorad

Yah think?!?!? :D :D :D

Okay, 95% will fail. Better?

687 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:47:20pm

re: #647 Electron Shuffler Good night Elctron Shuffler! Sleep well!

688 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:47:48pm

re: #681 realwest

Not my Mayor --I live the Very Far Western Parts--remember? And I did respond. Did the dingos eat it?

689 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:48:05pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet?

Prayers are with you.

690 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:48:24pm

re: #661 ggt Arggh! Ok, I'll e-mail you tonight right after I sign off here!

691 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:48:55pm

re: #668 Mich-again

Between songs during band practice years ago the phone rang and I set my "71 Les Paul in the stand and walked away to answer the phone. But the cord got hung up in my shoe as I walked away and the guitar fell to the concrete floor. I remember it like it was 5 seconds ago. The guitar hit the floor and the neck snapped in half. Oh god it still hurts to relive that moment when the world stopped as I watched it fall. Yes, I cried.

Good news though. I had the guitar fixed by a master craftsman who lived way out in the sticks. God bless you Park Prator! And 25 years later I still play that same Les Paul all the time and the evidence of the broken neck is imperceptible to anyone I dare to find it.


Glad to hear the guitar was able to be fixed.
/those doggone wires! Did my computer and foot in!

692 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:49:08pm

re: #683 Cartman

Oh, it's not all that bad. Sorry! It's actually got some nice new features - if you can find them. It's just that such a ballyhooed major release of an operating system should have yielded a much better product, IMO.

SP1 fixed a lot of the bugs. I haven't had any major issue. One thing to watch for, if you use the 64bit version, you must have signed device drivers. The 32bit version always you to install unsigned drivers.

If you have a peripheral you absolutely depend on, and you're thinking of going to the 64bit Vista, make sure the vendor of the peripheral has 64bit signed drivers or it won't work.

693 hermeneutics  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:49:40pm

Gallup has had McCain and Obama tied for three days now. Nice. Obama is sliding downward as McCain is creeping upward in the polls.

HEre's a URL with a graph: [Link: www.gallup.com...]

Its a rolling average so going forward looks good.

694 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:50:04pm

New thread?

695 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:50:16pm

re: #669 MandyManners
HOw does that effect Michelle's kids?!?

696 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:50:37pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet?

Good luck! And prayers to you. Hopefully it is something simple on the headaches...

697 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:50:50pm

re: #692 jcm

Thanks for the heads-up.

698 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:51:29pm

re: #664 realwest

Hey Killian - don't know why, but when I read your post you seemed more surprised by the fact that someone actually HIT the bus as the fact that someone shot at it!
Man, I've heard of running for the bus, but I never thought to shoot at it to get it to stop for you!

Most likely gang related, North Minneapolis is the wild west, gunplay is a daily event. Bus drivers should get combat pay driving those routes.

/welcome to Keith Ellison's Congressional district.

699 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:51:52pm

re: #676 ggt

I've been very happy with Vista. I have Microsoft Office for Vista and it all seems to work fine.

Thanks {ggt}! That gives me hope. And hopefully I will be happy with Vista too. :)

700 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:52:07pm

re: #686 hermeneutics

Okay, 95% will fail. Better?

Hey! I was agreeing with you! "Yah think?!?!?" is another way of saying "Understatement of the century!" :-D

701 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:52:17pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet? Hey good luck tomorrow - prayers going up for you tonight and as early as I can wake up in the morning!

702 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:52:24pm

re: #674 RememberSekhmet?

Prayers go out to you.
I pray it will be nothing serious and that they can do something to get rid of the headaches. What a burden to bear.

703 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:52:55pm

re: #685 ggt

Music to my ears. The basic education until --when? 1920? That means all these dead white man subjects were the basis for the education for Fredrick Douglas, Booker T Washington and WEB Dubois (and I think Ghandi --has he was educated in Englad-IIRC). Something the modern civil rights leaders seem to have "overlooked".

Got was a British educated barrister (lawyer).

In stead of logic our kids get putting condoms on bananas. Whereas if they'd been taught logic, we'd only have to make the consequences of a certain act known, and they could and would make a logical and correct decision. Instead they get confused, mixed and misleading messages.

704 NY Nana  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:53:18pm

Anyone who is hugging Windows XP after hearing so much re Vista? Read this and weep...and hide your Windows XP from the Microsoft Police!

I thought that they had extended the life span of XP for awhile, because so many were complaining re Vista.

/Didn't anyone tell Gates that charity begins at home?

705 trigger girlie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:53:44pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

I hate youuu! ;p

706 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:54:05pm

Thanks y'all. Imitrex has been knocking out the bad ones, and either ibuprofen or Aleve (whichever one feels like working) tend to take care of the rest. That Imitrex is some expensive stuff! But hopefully soon it will come off its paent and I can get a generic.

707 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:54:51pm

re: #285 NomadOfNorad

They had Apple II machines at the junior college I went to. Took a BASIC programming class on them. They were networked together with something called Corvus... which, oddly enough, is where I gather the BASIC programs were actually running. :-/

These were black-cased Apple II machines, which I gather were only sold to, and used in, educational establishments.

As for punch-cards... I briefly encountered a machine at that same junior college that used them. It was a wedge-shaped thing with a small card-reader mechanism at one end, and the readout display was a row of nixie-tubes! I gather they'd pulled the thing out of a closet.

This was in the early 1980s or so.

BTW, my dad was a mathematics professor there. Now you know why I'm such an intellectual, and a nut. :D :D :D

Actually, I misstated myself in that last sentence. I should have said:

Now you know why I'm such an analytical nutcase! :D :D :D

708 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:54:51pm

re: #706 RememberSekhmet?

Grr, patent even PIMF

709 jcm  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:54:56pm

re: #703 jcm

Got was a British educated barrister (lawyer).

In stead of logic our kids get putting condoms on bananas. Whereas if they'd been taught logic, we'd only have to make the consequences of a certain act known, and they could and would make a logical and correct decision. Instead they get confused, mixed and misleading messages.

Got? WTF? PIMF you moron, PIMF
Ghandi. yeesh!

710 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:54:59pm

re: #683 Cartman

Thanks {Cartman}!

711 wolfie  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:56:00pm

new thread or beddy-bye?
hmmm

712 realwest  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:56:27pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I see Sir Charles has another thread up and that means it's time for me to go to bed!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

713 NomadOfNorad  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:57:06pm

re: #704 NY Nana

Anyone who is hugging Windows XP after hearing so much re Vista? Read this and weep...and hide your Windows XP from the Microsoft Police!

I thought that they had extended the life span of XP for awhile, because so many were complaining re Vista.

/Didn't anyone tell Gates that charity begins at home?

It's all gonna end in tears, I just know it.

And blood. Gobs and gobs of blood.

714 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:57:13pm

Night, Realwest!

715 Cartman  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 9:59:37pm

G'nite R-Dubs.

716 Suzette  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 10:01:07pm

Night Realwest! Sweet and restful dreams!

717 ggt  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 10:06:58pm

Weet dreams all!

718 NY Nana  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 10:10:00pm

re: #713 NomadOfNorad

It's all gonna end in tears, I just know it.

And blood. Gobs and gobs of blood.

/Blood, sweat and tears.

Seriously, Microsoft had a rebellion re Vista, and they had decided to let XP be sold, along with it. IIRC, it was longer than 30 June. I can see secret sites, where you can order XP for about a zillion quatloos, plus sales tax and shipping.

I am a computer dummy, but I am so used to XP...I want my XP, damn it!

719 slokat  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 10:20:14pm

re: #487 Mich-again

The best example I can think of is the simple sketch that used to take 3 minutes, and now it has to be done on Autocad and it takes half an hour.

One of my online friends works for AutoCad & I keep telling him I should be able to sketch input as if I was drawing or drafting, instead of being forced into their vector plotting (or whatever it's called).

720 NY Nana  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 10:24:42pm

re: #565 Mich-again

/Truce? What truce?

721 Karridine  Fri, Jun 27, 2008 11:56:36pm

Neo-Con (#533) - It hit the papers, BIG pictures, but no demonstrations... yet...

The Preah Wiharn temple being declared a World Heritage site is more of a big, public problem right now, and the (loyal) opposition is raking this government over the coals...

To settle a dispute between Cambodia and Thailand, the World Court (?, nudge-nudge, wink-wink) ruled that the Temple is Cambodian, but the land is Thai...

So IF the place is named a World Heritage site, Cambodia will by default ALSO GET the land... and the easily-upset-by-horrible-victimization crowd in Thailand is making this (for various reasons) a Censure Motion trigger...

722 Colonel Panik  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 12:03:17am

Can Flippy Triangle Style defeat the Thousand Styles of Rumsfeld?

723 Colonel Panik  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 12:03:52am

re: #717 ggt

Weet dreams all!

Corn, rice, rye and barley dreams as well.

724 Colonel Panik  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 12:08:07am

re: #661 ggt

Hey you! Yes, The Big Dick is fit-to-be-tied. And The Chicago Gun Case has already been filed. This and the Denver Convention--all in one summer. Is there enough popcorn?

Isn't the Chicago Gun Case a violin case with a Thompson submachinegun in it?

725 NomadOfNorad  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 12:20:28am

re: #724 Colonel Panik

ROFL ! ! !

Talk about an offer you can't refuse! :D :D :D

(Or am I getting two different gangster stories mixed up?)

726 Colonel Panik  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 12:24:18am

re: #669 MandyManners

[Link: news.aol.com...]

THE POLAR BEARS ARE GONNA' DIE.

No, they will just mutate back to being grizzlies.
A polar bear is just a grizzly with white fur who took swimming lessons.

727 daniel_ream  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 7:55:51am

re: #718 NY Nana

Seriously, Microsoft had a rebellion re Vista, and they had decided to let XP be sold, along with it. IIRC, it was longer than 30 June. I can see secret sites, where you can order XP for about a zillion quatloos, plus sales tax and shipping.

No need. They're just ceasing the "official" sale of XP, not discontinuing support (which will last at least until Windows 7 if not longer). But like all MS products, buying the license for the latest version of Windows means you are allowed to run any previous version of that product instead. So if your new laptop or whatever comes with Vista and you don't like it, you can call up MS and ask for them to issue you a license key for the XP version instead. I know several people who have a lucrative side business downgrading people's computers to XP from the pre-installed Vista, legally.

728 rickadams  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 10:18:40am

re: #390 daniel_ream

That rundown on web development platforms and career strategy was really helpful, thanks!

729 Stone Bunkum  Sat, Jun 28, 2008 12:23:28pm

Charles,

Thanks a lot for posting this info. I've use JQuery a little in some pages and I love what I've seen.

This post especially is very useful. Quite kind of you to offer up knowledge you have worked to acquire.

Many thanks.

Stone


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