Religion of peace!

There is no compulsion in Islam!

/

Walk like a Pakistinian....

Aqsa Parvez

So Islam is really about submission and not freewill? I'm flabbergasted!

/really now...

Sameer Zuberi, the Canadian spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that following her death, imams at mosques across the country reflected on the issues presented in the media surrounding her death.

"It forced the Islamic community to look at itself in terms of what children face and what parents here in Canada face," he said.

Hey, asswipe. Children face murder from their lunatic parents.

I'm sure glad the feminists are not wasting their precious time on trivial stuff like this and working hard to ensure that babies with Downs syndrome can be aborted in the 8th month.

What the hell is wrong with these people?
The mind reels.

I'm too pissed to comment rationally. bbiab

Sameer Zuberi, the Canadian spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that following her death, imams at mosques across the country reflected on the issues presented in the media surrounding her death.

"It forced the Islamic community to look at itself in terms of what children face and what parents here in Canada face," he said.

What does Canada have to do with anything? How about dealing with the problems of what Muslim women face in Muslim culture. These honor killings happen all over the world.

And, of course, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the abuse of women by Muslim men following the ridiculous strictures of their religion. Recently, it was report that 66,000 women in the UK have already been genitally mutilated.

[Link: ibloga.blogspot.com...]

Islam is the religion of peace. Right, and I'm King of the World. Hey, Canuckistan, this is just the start. Who are you to be imposing your idea of morality on Muslim immigrants anyway. /

A new definition for Fashion Police

Canadians capitulating to Sharia law...in 4...3....2...

Here's Jihad Watch on the murder after it was perpetrated:

The denial thickens. Think for a minute about what Muslim spokesmen in Canada could be saying. They could acknowledge that the divine sanction given to the beating of disobedient women (Qur'an 4:34) has created a culture in which such abuse is accepted as normal. They could call for a searching reevaluation of the meaning and continued relevance of Qur'an 4:34, and call in no uncertain terms for Muslims to reject definitively its literal meaning, now and for all time to come. They could acknowledge the prevalence of honor killing in Islamic culture, which has no sanction as such in Islamic theology but nonetheless enjoys enough Islamic approval that the Jordanian Parliament a few years ago rejected on Islamic grounds attempts to stiffen penalties for it. They could call for sweeping reform and reexamination of the status of women in Islam.

ROP, my ass.

Hey! Where'd my sarc tag go?

;)

re: #10 Blackacre

What the hell is wrong with these people animals?
The mind reels.

Police have refused to confirm the killing was over the scarf, and Muhammed Parvez’s lawyer, Joseph Ciraco, has said that more than just cultural issues played a role.

Bull! This is all about the cultural issues. Westerners, as a whole, do not kill their daughters over clothing. Westerners, as a whole, do not think of their daughters as property- able to be tossed in the garbage if they do not comply with the wishes of the family and cultural dictates. In the west, we don't kill our daughters over "honor" disputes.

re: #18 Cartman

ROP, my ass.

Hey! Where'd my sarc tag go?

;)

Here, use this one: RoPMA™!

A crying shame. He'll be hailed as a hero in most of the Muslim world.
Just following that damned bassackwards book.
I despise that thing.

May I suggest that the British solution to the Thugee problem be applied to this practice.

I'd like to travel to Pakistan for myself to see how bad it really is, but I'm not too fond of unscheduled neck surgery by austrolopithecine Islamopathics.

re: #22 Macker

New (unofficial) rules were established regarding the sarc tag in last nights open thread.

I just want to be sure I am being compliant.

uhhhh.../

But spokeswoman Samantha Nulle said investigators were checking if other people had been involved in the death.

I guess you could charge Mohammed as an accessory.

But since the family still has a stack of Multicultural Get Out of Jail Free™ cards, the prosecution will simply have to drop the case.

After all: It's part of their culture™!

re: #26 cutestguy

But thats animal abuse!

In Hell the animals abuse them.

Swara and Vani

PESHAWAR • Pakistan's last government had introduced three laws for safeguarding the rights of women and aimed at curbing the practice of honour killing and inhuman customs of swara and vani (giving away small girls to settle family disputes), allowing bail to women in most of the offences and amending the Offence of Zina (Enforcement of Hudood) Ordinance so as to stop its misuse.

While the women in rest of the country could avail the benefits provided under these laws, the women in Provincially Administered Tribal Areas (Pata) adjacent to the North West Frontier Province and the North have still been deprived of these benefits as these laws have not been extended there under the constitution.

Legal circles here dealing with such cases claim that they have been facing problems in dealing with cases of honour killing, fornication and swara due to non-implementation of the three laws in Pata.

Sometime, they claim, they hoodwink the courts when presiding officers are not aware of this fact, whereas mostly the courts decline to provide them any relief due to non-extension of laws.

Pata enjoys special status under Article 247 of the Constitution. These areas consist of seven districts — Swat, Shangla, Chitral, Buner, Malakand, Upper and Lower Dir — and tribal areas of Mansehra and

Kohistan.

The said article provides that no Act of Parliament or a provincial assembly shall apply to Pata unless the governor, with prior approval of the president, directs so. Normally, the governor issues a notification for extending any law to the Pata.

re: #26 cutestguy

But thats animal abuse!

I hear the goats don't mind. The so called men have little weewee's and the goats think it is easier.

Blame Mark Styne.

re: #17 Thanos

Here's

Well I think it was the Peel regional police making the charge and those guys are pricks to everyone. I actually heard about this a couple of days ago. Thank god they arrested him finally.

/last post I am out of here folks.

The hijab has only one place in western society. To wipe my ass.

It's impossible to fathom this mindset. Murder your daughter so that you may find favor with your "god". Pure evil.

re: #38 Racer X

The hijab has only one place in western society. To wipe my ass.

I use one to clean my guns. and wipe.

Just once, couldn't there be an honor killing where the man was the unfortunate victim. Or better yet, the woman defended herself, and the man was no longer able to oppress the weaker sex. The female Muslims of the world need second amendment rights, self-defense courses, and the kind of gun control that lets you pick off a fly at forty paces.

OT: New York Times reads my.barackobama.com and does article on "people adopting 'Hussein' as a middle name".

No mention of the truthers, anti-semites, and threats of political violence sponsored by an official presidential campaign.

OT:Drudge , CNN, and the koskidz are all upset about the headlines this morning,,,
'Obama' Hate Messages, Graffiti Cover 60 Orlando City Vehicles

Special business cards left near the damaged vehicles contained negative messages about Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain. However, there were positive words about Sen. Hillary Clinton, Local 6's Kimberly Houk reported.

Only the CNN version even mentions the anti-McCain messages.

re: #28 Cartman

New (unofficial) rules were established regarding the sarc tag in last nights open thread.

I just want to be sure I am being compliant.

uhhhh.../

I missed it. Is this the Summer of our sarcontent?

re: #28 Cartman

New (unofficial) rules were established regarding the sarc tag in last nights open thread.

I just want to be sure I am being compliant.

uhhhh.../

Linky, please? I didn't see anything there....

re: #45 debutaunt

LOL

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

The broader issue is that people like this are out and about in Canadian and American societies. Can 21st century American society: open, pluralistic, and with equality of opportunity and belief, really survive having adherents of extreme 12th century thinking among it?

It creates a common danger and threat to us all to welcome people who will easily commit and excuse violence in the heat of their irrational extremism into the United States. Suppose someone comes in with a suitcase nuke?

U.S. immigration and naturalization policies are not selective enough in removing this threat. McCain may want to do immigration reform, but the test and manner for how people are admitted to this country needs greater reform. If it cannot be done put a complete moratorium on immigration from these areas into effect for the next 20 years.

Must I add I am referring to Muslim EXTREMISTS?

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Doesn't fit the narrative.

Racists

But he was just a sensitive and caring sibling, who did what he had to do. He could not afford that kind of dishonor to the family, it's unthinkable.

/

re: #46 Macker

Linky, please? I didn't see anything there....

I've gotta cut out shortly, or I'd provide a link. We had a "long time" poster here last night that basically implied that the use of the sarc tag was intellectually lazy. It was quite amusing. It's all over the open thread last night, if you care to take a gander.

what a hideous doctrine that would inspire a father to kill his daughter or a brother to kill his sister over something so trivial as a head scarf.
and they are trying to bring these barbaric beliefs to our neighborhoods everywhere.
islam is so perverse. it is evil.

re: #50 offendi

The broader issue is that people like this are out and about in Canadian and American societies. Can 21st century American society: open, pluralistic, and with equality of opportunity and belief, really survive having adherents of extreme 127th century thinking among it?

It creates a common danger and threat to us all to welcome people who will easily commit and excuse violence in the heat of their irrational extremism into the United States. Suppose someone comes in with a suitcase nuke?

U.S. immigration and naturalization policies are not selective enough in removing this threat. McCain may want to do immigration reform, but the test and manner for how people are admitted to this country needs greater reform. If it cannot be done put a complete moratorium on immigration from these areas into effect for the next 20 years.

Must I add I am referring to Muslim EXTREMISTS?

There, fixed that for ya!

re: #53 Cartman

Oh I already replied to that jerk. Frak him!

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
--attributed to Gen. Sir Charles Napier, British Commander-in Chief of India, on sati

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

Probably a 6-12 month wait for assistance. It's Canada, you know, where healthcare is perfect, and there are no real problems.

/

Why do we permit them into our country? All they want to do is infiltrate us and take us over. The Muslims are very vengeful and are still smarting from their defeat by The Crusaders. They realize that they lack the military ability to defeat us (western civilization) so they are infiltrating us and with their high birth rate will destroy us the democratic way ---- at the ballot box.
Wake Up America------Europe is almost gone and we may be next.

Mo' said you only have to hide the tits....

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands

Another illustration of how Islam reduces the woman to the status of chattel.

How many such examples will people need before they accept that the Waqas Parvez's and Muhammad Parvez's are not aberrations?

re: #49 coquimbojoe

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

Not that I've heard.

[Link: video1.washingtontimes.com...]

re: #55 Macker

Thanks!

I live and work in Kabul (American) and we see it all the time.
Makes me furious. The abuse of women is unconceivable.
In Kabul it is much more modern then in the provinces

still
young girls being married at 8 or 9
20 years old girls with 5 children - soon dead and a new wife (14) married to raise the kids and produce more
Burka's - I hate them
Sexual pervasion because the sexes are segregated

I will spare you the details. It makes me sick.

It gets worse. Here what was done to that young woman would be applauded by many

And some of the women believe it. The BURKA protects them! Because of course the men are so viral that they cannot stop themselves - it is the woman's fault.
And many do beat their wife's - I see the bruises.

sarc - spit!

re: #58 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Shelters are not run by the government in America so I imagine they're the same in Canada.

He did not return calls for comment Friday.

Muslims invented the phone call.

I read it in the NYTIMES.

re: #66 cutestguy

Think that is gonna stop the Muslim bloodlust? They love death more than life, at least for the true believers...

Well, he was talking to the Hindus.

re: #17 Thanos

Here's Jihad Watch on the murder after it was perpetrated:

So, because Islamic men can't control their raging impulses at the sight of a woman's hair, women everywhere must cover up. Makes the men look mighty weak, I think.
But of course, they are, or they wouldn't behave like this. They know their culture contributes nothing in the (increasingly) Western world. They do what weak men everywhere do- take it out on the women and children.

re: #65 LindaMarie

How do you keep your mouth shut? I'd go bat-shit crazy.

re: #65 LindaMarie

islam is a cult of misogyny.

imagine being a young girl in a modern society and know full well in your heart that your own father, brothers and uncles would KILL you, strangle and rape you, that they are capable and inclined to do that over nothing.
how can a girl ever feel secure and loved in her family w/ her life on the line daily because of islam.
this is a horrific and heartbreaking situation. just sickening.

I just chucked 3 fund raising letters from McCain, the RNC, and the local RNC in the trash. We are safely red here in Eastern Wa. but the Nat'l. RNC and McCain can go pound sand. I'll vote but not any of my money. Assholes.

re: #42 swamprat

Just once, couldn't there be an honor killing where the man was the unfortunate victim. Or better yet, the woman defended herself, and the man was no longer able to oppress the weaker sex. The female Muslims of the world need second amendment rights, self-defense courses, and the kind of gun control that lets you pick off a fly at forty paces.

In Islamic courts it takes 3 women to testify to equal the weight of one man's testimony. And 2 of the 3 are beat so severely that they cannot get to court if they live through it.
Swollen shut eyes and broken bones will make you miss court
The 3 to 1 is in the Koran

Despite such instructions, beating is considered a type of violence, according to human rights organizations, which urge women to complain to the police. I just wonder what kind of families our societies would have if Muslim women started doing this regarding their husbands.

Relationships between fathers and daughters or sisters and brothers also provoke argument from human rights organizations, which propose the suggested solutions for all relationships. Personally, I don’t think fathers or brothers would undertake such behavior unless there was a reason for it.

Fathers are responsible for their daughters’ behavior, but human rights organizations deny this too. Brothers also should take action regarding their sisters’ behavior, especially if their parents are too old or dead. If a daughter or sister makes a mistake – especially a moral one – that negatively affects the entire family and its reputation, what’s the solution by such organizations?

According to them, women should complain to the courts about any type of violence against them. Likewise, should fathers and brothers complain to police if their daughters or sisters violate moral, Islamic or social norms?

Fathers should handle their daughters via any means that suits their mistake; thus, is it better to use violence to a certain limit or complain to the police? Shall such women then complain to the police against their fathers or brothers? It’s really amazing to hear this.

SNIP

re: #76 MandyManners

I hope my message is clear, since it’s really quite relevant to the future of our societies, which must be protected from any kind of cultural invasion.

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

I would think that that would only give greater offense and require the young animal to also cut the throats of the offending kaffir women who provided his innocent sister with sanctuary.

Would think the risk to people who run shelters would be much greater from religious extremists whose religious beliefs mandate killing than husbands who get violent when they drink.

The shelter people probably don't have ingress to the culture or know how to contact these women effectively. A sad, sad situation.

re: #77 MandyManners

That's right. Empowering women is a cultural invastion.

re: #75 LindaMarie
Tell me the Koran wasn't written by some tribal bs artist?! It is straight out of the savages in the desert playbook.

re: #70 angst

So, because Islamic men can't control their raging impulses at the sight of a woman's hair, women everywhere must cover up. Makes the men look mighty weak, I think.
But of course, they are, or they wouldn't behave like this. They know their culture contributes nothing in the (increasingly) Western world. They do what weak men everywhere do- take it out on the women and children.

The Manson Family aint got nothing compared to Islamic Radicals!

re: #71 MandyManners

I open it here and do the best I can to help the women

Those who wear the hijab to show piety........my hat is off to you. (as it were) Those who have to wear a hijab out of fear certainly need to have their rights vigorously protected. If the hijab is a means of "protection", it would appear that that protection is needed against a culture that does not respect the rights of women. A woman has rights no matter how she chooses to dress. It is ridiculous that safe-houses would have to be funded for women who refuse to wear a hat. If muslim men want to treat women in this fashion, go to a country where slavery, amputations, and rape are winked at, you know, a sharia compliant country. There are planes leaving every day.

re: #78 offendi

I would think that that would only give greater offense and require the young animal to also cut the throats of the offending kaffir women who provided his innocent sister with sanctuary.

Would think the risk to people who run shelters would be much greater from religious extremists whose religious beliefs mandate killing than husbands who get violent when they drink.

The shelter people probably don't have ingress to the culture or know how to contact these women effectively. A sad, sad situation.

Those are similar to my thoughts about the shelters. Well, except that non-Muslim men don't need to drink in order to beat their wives/girlfriends.

re: #82 LindaMarie

I open it here and do the best I can to help the women

God bless you.

re: #60 cutestguy

The Muslims consider the headscarf sacrosant. There is no room for discussion with these louts.

and that is their defense for murder, in our country, in modern times, that the victim did not have a piece of cloth on her head.
who gives a fck what these assholes say the scrap of cloth means.
we have to get beyond anything that the barbarians say, think or imply, is a legitimate reason to murder.

National Coalition against Domestic Violence.

Egyptian e-mail campaign compares women without veils to unwrapped candy attracting flies

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

re: #76 MandyManners

It's evident to me that there simply is no common ground between fundamentalist Islam and the West, especially America. We're based on the recognition and preservation of fundamental human rights, God-given or natural, take your pick.

They aren't.

This isn't going to end pretty.

Shelternet in Canada. (Multi-lingual, including Arabic, Farsi and Punjabi.)

[Link: www.shelternet.ca...]

re: #89 Dustyvet

Egyptian e-mail campaign compares women without veils to unwrapped candy attracting flies

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

I thought they were uncovered meat?

If you do not respect children you will not respect anything.

I would like to see islam go the way of the religion of the Aztecs

NCADV.org's international resources.

[Link: www.ncadv.org...]

re: #30 zombie

Yo Zombie. In the Bay Area on Vacation. Giving you a big ewave :)

re: #80 pingjockey

I read most of it - the most boring book ever.
Sum it up in three sentences

Allah (God) it great
Allan knows all
Allah is watching YOU

Struggled through most if it.
The above three sentences make up 60% of the Koran

Got it free over the Internet, more of us should try to read it. Know they enemy. And it is not the Afghans it is the relgion. Not that you can seperate the two since the Muslims invaded centuries ago.

Links to more international resources.

[Link: www.hotpeachpages.net...]

re: #90 angst

It will either end in one of the biggest change of heart miracles ever, or in a messy and epic battle, and the choice is not ours.

Islam and domestic violence

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

She shouldn't have got so uppity like that....

Frontpage Magazine on the oppression of women in Islam.

re: #95 cutestguy

They are comparing females to piles of shit. My take on it.

They treat camels much better.

re: #97 LindaMarie
Yep, read it before my last trip to the Gulf. Know your enemy and all that. It is full of statements that contradict each other, murder, mayhem, hypocrisy, misogyny, blackmail, truly a fine book.///////

re: #83 swamprat

B**l Sh*t - they take the veils off every chance they get when they will not get beaten for it.
It the words of one Afghan male - I will pull your pants down and rape you on the street if you uncover your hair in the office again.

Muslim marriage.

[Link: www.kimo4jesus.org...]

I see these cases and then I notice how the religious groups here in Turkey are fighting for the "right" of women to wear headscarves in government buildings, schools and universities. Since when do women fight for the right to be unequal and be treated as objects? Here, the islamocascist parties that be pay women to wear the tablecloth and to dress in the whole black moving object costume. It makes me ill.

Islam is a culture. Civilization is the Penicillin.

Mandy- I hope you have those links as permanent features on your blog.

re: #104 pingjockey

It would not find a publisher today

re: #91 MandyManners

Shelternet in Canada. (Multi-lingual, including Arabic, Farsi and Punjabi.)

[Link:

We hear about so-called ''honor killings'' only when they take place in freer places like Israel, France, the UK, Canada the USA and Australia.
But the vast majority of them take place in Turkey, SA, Yemen, Iran, and the rest of the 57 Islamic states.
Jordan is a small country but even there they admit to well over 150 cases a year.....that they find out about.

The Kid's home. Gotta' go.

re: #110 Sharmuta

Mandy- I hope you have those links as permanent features on your blog.

I'm setting up many.

re: #95 cutestguy

They are comparing females to piles of shit. My take on it.

You don't rape piles of shit - you do women. Or sometimes goats if that is the only option because you are so viral that they will do.
Of course young 10 year old girls are better then goats if you can find or buy one

re: #112 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Well, what the fuck do you propose?

re: #112 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I apologize. I should not have taken my gut-churning rage out on you.

re: #89 Dustyvet

You forgot about the dogs. And keep it away from the cats!

re: #115 MandyManners

Mandy...what's your blog? Please seend me an e-mail link if you don't mind.

We've all come so far since the days of Baal(ah.
/

Imagine trying to say B-a-a-l with one or more of you lips split, or teeth missing. What's it sound like?

(Cutting away parts of lips (and/or tongue and/or teeth) used to be a common form of punishment in ancient times, esp for things spoken against someone in power.)

(OT) re: #49 coquimbojoe

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

Not that I know of. But see here: May 18th, 2008 8:23 pm
Still Dead in Dallas. An Update on the Double Honor Murders

re: #120 Macker

She's still setting it up, I believe.