Religion of peace!

There is no compulsion in Islam!

/

Walk like a Pakistinian...

Aqsa Parvez

So Islam is really about submission and not freewill? I'm flabbergasted!

/really now...

Sameer Zuberi, the Canadian spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that following her death, imams at mosques across the country reflected on the issues presented in the media surrounding her death.

"It forced the Islamic community to look at itself in terms of what children face and what parents here in Canada face," he said.

Hey, asswipe. Children face murder from their lunatic parents.

I'm sure glad the feminists are not wasting their precious time on trivial stuff like this and working hard to ensure that babies with Downs syndrome can be aborted in the 8th month.

What the hell is wrong with these people?
The mind reels.

I'm too pissed to comment rationally. bbiab

Sameer Zuberi, the Canadian spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that following her death, imams at mosques across the country reflected on the issues presented in the media surrounding her death.

"It forced the Islamic community to look at itself in terms of what children face and what parents here in Canada face," he said.

What does Canada have to do with anything? How about dealing with the problems of what Muslim women face in Muslim culture. These honor killings happen all over the world.

And, of course, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the abuse of women by Muslim men following the ridiculous strictures of their religion. Recently, it was report that 66,000 women in the UK have already been genitally mutilated.

[Link: ibloga.blogspot.com...]

Islam is the religion of peace. Right, and I'm King of the World. Hey, Canuckistan, this is just the start. Who are you to be imposing your idea of morality on Muslim immigrants anyway. /

A new definition for Fashion Police

Canadians capitulating to Sharia law...in 4...3...2...

Here's Jihad Watch on the murder after it was perpetrated:

The denial thickens. Think for a minute about what Muslim spokesmen in Canada could be saying. They could acknowledge that the divine sanction given to the beating of disobedient women (Qur'an 4:34) has created a culture in which such abuse is accepted as normal. They could call for a searching reevaluation of the meaning and continued relevance of Qur'an 4:34, and call in no uncertain terms for Muslims to reject definitively its literal meaning, now and for all time to come. They could acknowledge the prevalence of honor killing in Islamic culture, which has no sanction as such in Islamic theology but nonetheless enjoys enough Islamic approval that the Jordanian Parliament a few years ago rejected on Islamic grounds attempts to stiffen penalties for it. They could call for sweeping reform and reexamination of the status of women in Islam.

ROP, my ass.

Hey! Where'd my sarc tag go?

;)

re: #10 Blackacre

What the hell is wrong with these people animals?
The mind reels.

Police have refused to confirm the killing was over the scarf, and Muhammed Parvez’s lawyer, Joseph Ciraco, has said that more than just cultural issues played a role.

Bull! This is all about the cultural issues. Westerners, as a whole, do not kill their daughters over clothing. Westerners, as a whole, do not think of their daughters as property- able to be tossed in the garbage if they do not comply with the wishes of the family and cultural dictates. In the west, we don't kill our daughters over "honor" disputes.

re: #18 Cartman

ROP, my ass.

Hey! Where'd my sarc tag go?

;)

Here, use this one: RoPMA™!

A crying shame. He'll be hailed as a hero in most of the Muslim world.
Just following that damned bassackwards book.
I despise that thing.

May I suggest that the British solution to the Thugee problem be applied to this practice.

I'd like to travel to Pakistan for myself to see how bad it really is, but I'm not too fond of unscheduled neck surgery by austrolopithecine Islamopathics.

re: #22 Macker

New (unofficial) rules were established regarding the sarc tag in last nights open thread.

I just want to be sure I am being compliant.

uhhh.../

But spokeswoman Samantha Nulle said investigators were checking if other people had been involved in the death.

I guess you could charge Mohammed as an accessory.

But since the family still has a stack of Multicultural Get Out of Jail Free™ cards, the prosecution will simply have to drop the case.

After all: It's part of their culture™!

re: #26 cutestguy

But thats animal abuse!

In Hell the animals abuse them.

Swara and Vani

PESHAWAR • Pakistan's last government had introduced three laws for safeguarding the rights of women and aimed at curbing the practice of honour killing and inhuman customs of swara and vani (giving away small girls to settle family disputes), allowing bail to women in most of the offences and amending the Offence of Zina (Enforcement of Hudood) Ordinance so as to stop its misuse.

While the women in rest of the country could avail the benefits provided under these laws, the women in Provincially Administered Tribal Areas (Pata) adjacent to the North West Frontier Province and the North have still been deprived of these benefits as these laws have not been extended there under the constitution.

Legal circles here dealing with such cases claim that they have been facing problems in dealing with cases of honour killing, fornication and swara due to non-implementation of the three laws in Pata.

Sometime, they claim, they hoodwink the courts when presiding officers are not aware of this fact, whereas mostly the courts decline to provide them any relief due to non-extension of laws.

Pata enjoys special status under Article 247 of the Constitution. These areas consist of seven districts — Swat, Shangla, Chitral, Buner, Malakand, Upper and Lower Dir — and tribal areas of Mansehra and

Kohistan.

The said article provides that no Act of Parliament or a provincial assembly shall apply to Pata unless the governor, with prior approval of the president, directs so. Normally, the governor issues a notification for extending any law to the Pata.

re: #26 cutestguy

But thats animal abuse!

I hear the goats don't mind. The so called men have little weewee's and the goats think it is easier.

Blame Mark Styne.

re: #17 Thanos

Here's Jihad Watch on the murder after it was perpetrated:

Women ultimately have the choice of whether or not they want to wear a hijab, but Islam teaches that such women occupy a more advanced position within the religion, El-Sayyed said.

"When I look at a woman who is covered, I look at her as a soul, a person, a mentality - not a physical or sexual object," he said.

Muslim women who wear veils might not "look pretty," but their modest dress protects them, he added.

Cat meat sheik.

Well I think it was the Peel regional police making the charge and those guys are pricks to everyone. I actually heard about this a couple of days ago. Thank god they arrested him finally.

/last post I am out of here folks.

The hijab has only one place in western society. To wipe my ass.

It's impossible to fathom this mindset. Murder your daughter so that you may find favor with your "god". Pure evil.

re: #38 Racer X

The hijab has only one place in western society. To wipe my ass.

I use one to clean my guns. and wipe.

Just once, couldn't there be an honor killing where the man was the unfortunate victim. Or better yet, the woman defended herself, and the man was no longer able to oppress the weaker sex. The female Muslims of the world need second amendment rights, self-defense courses, and the kind of gun control that lets you pick off a fly at forty paces.

OT: New York Times reads my.barackobama.com and does article on "people adopting 'Hussein' as a middle name".

No mention of the truthers, anti-semites, and threats of political violence sponsored by an official presidential campaign.

OT:Drudge , CNN, and the koskidz are all upset about the headlines this morning,,,
'Obama' Hate Messages, Graffiti Cover 60 Orlando City Vehicles

Special business cards left near the damaged vehicles contained negative messages about Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain. However, there were positive words about Sen. Hillary Clinton, Local 6's Kimberly Houk reported.

Only the CNN version even mentions the anti-McCain messages.

re: #28 Cartman

New (unofficial) rules were established regarding the sarc tag in last nights open thread.

I just want to be sure I am being compliant.

uhhh.../

I missed it. Is this the Summer of our sarcontent?

re: #28 Cartman

New (unofficial) rules were established regarding the sarc tag in last nights open thread.

I just want to be sure I am being compliant.

uhhh.../

Linky, please? I didn't see anything there...

re: #45 debutaunt

LOL

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

The broader issue is that people like this are out and about in Canadian and American societies. Can 21st century American society: open, pluralistic, and with equality of opportunity and belief, really survive having adherents of extreme 12th century thinking among it?

It creates a common danger and threat to us all to welcome people who will easily commit and excuse violence in the heat of their irrational extremism into the United States. Suppose someone comes in with a suitcase nuke?

U.S. immigration and naturalization policies are not selective enough in removing this threat. McCain may want to do immigration reform, but the test and manner for how people are admitted to this country needs greater reform. If it cannot be done put a complete moratorium on immigration from these areas into effect for the next 20 years.

Must I add I am referring to Muslim EXTREMISTS?

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Doesn't fit the narrative.

Racists

But he was just a sensitive and caring sibling, who did what he had to do. He could not afford that kind of dishonor to the family, it's unthinkable.

/

re: #46 Macker

Linky, please? I didn't see anything there...

I've gotta cut out shortly, or I'd provide a link. We had a "long time" poster here last night that basically implied that the use of the sarc tag was intellectually lazy. It was quite amusing. It's all over the open thread last night, if you care to take a gander.

what a hideous doctrine that would inspire a father to kill his daughter or a brother to kill his sister over something so trivial as a head scarf.
and they are trying to bring these barbaric beliefs to our neighborhoods everywhere.
islam is so perverse. it is evil.

re: #50 offendi

The broader issue is that people like this are out and about in Canadian and American societies. Can 21st century American society: open, pluralistic, and with equality of opportunity and belief, really survive having adherents of extreme 127th century thinking among it?

It creates a common danger and threat to us all to welcome people who will easily commit and excuse violence in the heat of their irrational extremism into the United States. Suppose someone comes in with a suitcase nuke?

U.S. immigration and naturalization policies are not selective enough in removing this threat. McCain may want to do immigration reform, but the test and manner for how people are admitted to this country needs greater reform. If it cannot be done put a complete moratorium on immigration from these areas into effect for the next 20 years.

Must I add I am referring to Muslim EXTREMISTS?

There, fixed that for ya!

re: #53 Cartman

Oh I already replied to that jerk. Frak him!

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
--attributed to Gen. Sir Charles Napier, British Commander-in Chief of India, on sati

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

Probably a 6-12 month wait for assistance. It's Canada, you know, where healthcare is perfect, and there are no real problems.

/

Why do we permit them into our country? All they want to do is infiltrate us and take us over. The Muslims are very vengeful and are still smarting from their defeat by The Crusaders. They realize that they lack the military ability to defeat us (western civilization) so they are infiltrating us and with their high birth rate will destroy us the democratic way --- at the ballot box.
Wake Up America---Europe is almost gone and we may be next.

Mo' said you only have to hide the tits...

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands

Another illustration of how Islam reduces the woman to the status of chattel.

How many such examples will people need before they accept that the Waqas Parvez's and Muhammad Parvez's are not aberrations?

re: #49 coquimbojoe

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

Not that I've heard.

[Link: video1.washingtontimes.com...]

re: #55 Macker

Thanks!

I live and work in Kabul (American) and we see it all the time.
Makes me furious. The abuse of women is unconceivable.
In Kabul it is much more modern then in the provinces

still
young girls being married at 8 or 9
20 years old girls with 5 children - soon dead and a new wife (14) married to raise the kids and produce more
Burka's - I hate them
Sexual pervasion because the sexes are segregated

I will spare you the details. It makes me sick.

It gets worse. Here what was done to that young woman would be applauded by many

And some of the women believe it. The BURKA protects them! Because of course the men are so viral that they cannot stop themselves - it is the woman's fault.
And many do beat their wife's - I see the bruises.

sarc - spit!

re: #58 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Shelters are not run by the government in America so I imagine they're the same in Canada.

He did not return calls for comment Friday.

Muslims invented the phone call.

I read it in the NYTIMES.

re: #66 cutestguy

Think that is gonna stop the Muslim bloodlust? They love death more than life, at least for the true believers...

Well, he was talking to the Hindus.

re: #17 Thanos

Here's Jihad Watch on the murder after it was perpetrated:

So, because Islamic men can't control their raging impulses at the sight of a woman's hair, women everywhere must cover up. Makes the men look mighty weak, I think.
But of course, they are, or they wouldn't behave like this. They know their culture contributes nothing in the (increasingly) Western world. They do what weak men everywhere do- take it out on the women and children.

re: #65 LindaMarie

How do you keep your mouth shut? I'd go bat-shit crazy.

re: #65 LindaMarie

islam is a cult of misogyny.

imagine being a young girl in a modern society and know full well in your heart that your own father, brothers and uncles would KILL you, strangle and rape you, that they are capable and inclined to do that over nothing.
how can a girl ever feel secure and loved in her family w/ her life on the line daily because of islam.
this is a horrific and heartbreaking situation. just sickening.

I just chucked 3 fund raising letters from McCain, the RNC, and the local RNC in the trash. We are safely red here in Eastern Wa. but the Nat'l. RNC and McCain can go pound sand. I'll vote but not any of my money. Assholes.

re: #42 swamprat

Just once, couldn't there be an honor killing where the man was the unfortunate victim. Or better yet, the woman defended herself, and the man was no longer able to oppress the weaker sex. The female Muslims of the world need second amendment rights, self-defense courses, and the kind of gun control that lets you pick off a fly at forty paces.

In Islamic courts it takes 3 women to testify to equal the weight of one man's testimony. And 2 of the 3 are beat so severely that they cannot get to court if they live through it.
Swollen shut eyes and broken bones will make you miss court
The 3 to 1 is in the Koran

Despite such instructions, beating is considered a type of violence, according to human rights organizations, which urge women to complain to the police. I just wonder what kind of families our societies would have if Muslim women started doing this regarding their husbands.

Relationships between fathers and daughters or sisters and brothers also provoke argument from human rights organizations, which propose the suggested solutions for all relationships. Personally, I don’t think fathers or brothers would undertake such behavior unless there was a reason for it.

Fathers are responsible for their daughters’ behavior, but human rights organizations deny this too. Brothers also should take action regarding their sisters’ behavior, especially if their parents are too old or dead. If a daughter or sister makes a mistake – especially a moral one – that negatively affects the entire family and its reputation, what’s the solution by such organizations?

According to them, women should complain to the courts about any type of violence against them. Likewise, should fathers and brothers complain to police if their daughters or sisters violate moral, Islamic or social norms?

Fathers should handle their daughters via any means that suits their mistake; thus, is it better to use violence to a certain limit or complain to the police? Shall such women then complain to the police against their fathers or brothers? It’s really amazing to hear this.

SNIP

re: #76 MandyManners

I hope my message is clear, since it’s really quite relevant to the future of our societies, which must be protected from any kind of cultural invasion.

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

I would think that that would only give greater offense and require the young animal to also cut the throats of the offending kaffir women who provided his innocent sister with sanctuary.

Would think the risk to people who run shelters would be much greater from religious extremists whose religious beliefs mandate killing than husbands who get violent when they drink.

The shelter people probably don't have ingress to the culture or know how to contact these women effectively. A sad, sad situation.

re: #77 MandyManners

That's right. Empowering women is a cultural invastion.

re: #75 LindaMarie
Tell me the Koran wasn't written by some tribal bs artist?! It is straight out of the savages in the desert playbook.

re: #70 angst

So, because Islamic men can't control their raging impulses at the sight of a woman's hair, women everywhere must cover up. Makes the men look mighty weak, I think.
But of course, they are, or they wouldn't behave like this. They know their culture contributes nothing in the (increasingly) Western world. They do what weak men everywhere do- take it out on the women and children.

The Manson Family aint got nothing compared to Islamic Radicals!

re: #71 MandyManners

I open it here and do the best I can to help the women

Those who wear the hijab to show piety...my hat is off to you. (as it were) Those who have to wear a hijab out of fear certainly need to have their rights vigorously protected. If the hijab is a means of "protection", it would appear that that protection is needed against a culture that does not respect the rights of women. A woman has rights no matter how she chooses to dress. It is ridiculous that safe-houses would have to be funded for women who refuse to wear a hat. If muslim men want to treat women in this fashion, go to a country where slavery, amputations, and rape are winked at, you know, a sharia compliant country. There are planes leaving every day.

re: #78 offendi

I would think that that would only give greater offense and require the young animal to also cut the throats of the offending kaffir women who provided his innocent sister with sanctuary.

Would think the risk to people who run shelters would be much greater from religious extremists whose religious beliefs mandate killing than husbands who get violent when they drink.

The shelter people probably don't have ingress to the culture or know how to contact these women effectively. A sad, sad situation.

Those are similar to my thoughts about the shelters. Well, except that non-Muslim men don't need to drink in order to beat their wives/girlfriends.

re: #82 LindaMarie

I open it here and do the best I can to help the women

God bless you.

re: #60 cutestguy

The Muslims consider the headscarf sacrosant. There is no room for discussion with these louts.

and that is their defense for murder, in our country, in modern times, that the victim did not have a piece of cloth on her head.
who gives a fck what these assholes say the scrap of cloth means.
we have to get beyond anything that the barbarians say, think or imply, is a legitimate reason to murder.

National Coalition against Domestic Violence.

Egyptian e-mail campaign compares women without veils to unwrapped candy attracting flies

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

re: #76 MandyManners

It's evident to me that there simply is no common ground between fundamentalist Islam and the West, especially America. We're based on the recognition and preservation of fundamental human rights, God-given or natural, take your pick.

They aren't.

This isn't going to end pretty.

Shelternet in Canada. (Multi-lingual, including Arabic, Farsi and Punjabi.)

[Link: www.shelternet.ca...]

re: #89 Dustyvet

Egyptian e-mail campaign compares women without veils to unwrapped candy attracting flies

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

I thought they were uncovered meat?

If you do not respect children you will not respect anything.

I would like to see islam go the way of the religion of the Aztecs

NCADV.org's international resources.

[Link: www.ncadv.org...]

re: #30 zombie

Yo Zombie. In the Bay Area on Vacation. Giving you a big ewave :)

re: #80 pingjockey

I read most of it - the most boring book ever.
Sum it up in three sentences

Allah (God) it great
Allan knows all
Allah is watching YOU

Struggled through most if it.
The above three sentences make up 60% of the Koran

Got it free over the Internet, more of us should try to read it. Know they enemy. And it is not the Afghans it is the relgion. Not that you can seperate the two since the Muslims invaded centuries ago.

Links to more international resources.

[Link: www.hotpeachpages.net...]

re: #90 angst

It will either end in one of the biggest change of heart miracles ever, or in a messy and epic battle, and the choice is not ours.

Islam and domestic violence

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

She shouldn't have got so uppity like that...

Frontpage Magazine on the oppression of women in Islam.

re: #95 cutestguy

They are comparing females to piles of shit. My take on it.

They treat camels much better.

re: #97 LindaMarie
Yep, read it before my last trip to the Gulf. Know your enemy and all that. It is full of statements that contradict each other, murder, mayhem, hypocrisy, misogyny, blackmail, truly a fine book.///

re: #83 swamprat

B**l Sh*t - they take the veils off every chance they get when they will not get beaten for it.
It the words of one Afghan male - I will pull your pants down and rape you on the street if you uncover your hair in the office again.

Muslim marriage.

[Link: www.kimo4jesus.org...]

I see these cases and then I notice how the religious groups here in Turkey are fighting for the "right" of women to wear headscarves in government buildings, schools and universities. Since when do women fight for the right to be unequal and be treated as objects? Here, the islamocascist parties that be pay women to wear the tablecloth and to dress in the whole black moving object costume. It makes me ill.

Islam is a culture. Civilization is the Penicillin.

Mandy- I hope you have those links as permanent features on your blog.

re: #104 pingjockey

It would not find a publisher today

re: #91 MandyManners

Shelternet in Canada. (Multi-lingual, including Arabic, Farsi and Punjabi.)

[Link: www.shelternet.ca...]

I bet that works really well in a place where a female may not appear anywhere in public not in the accompaniment of an adult male relative.

Forget the multilingual, barbarism is far beyond that.

We hear about so-called ''honor killings'' only when they take place in freer places like Israel, France, the UK, Canada the USA and Australia.
But the vast majority of them take place in Turkey, SA, Yemen, Iran, and the rest of the 57 Islamic states.
Jordan is a small country but even there they admit to well over 150 cases a year...that they find out about.

The Kid's home. Gotta' go.

re: #110 Sharmuta

Mandy- I hope you have those links as permanent features on your blog.

I'm setting up many.

re: #95 cutestguy

They are comparing females to piles of shit. My take on it.

You don't rape piles of shit - you do women. Or sometimes goats if that is the only option because you are so viral that they will do.
Of course young 10 year old girls are better then goats if you can find or buy one

re: #112 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Well, what the fuck do you propose?

re: #112 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I apologize. I should not have taken my gut-churning rage out on you.

re: #89 Dustyvet

You forgot about the dogs. And keep it away from the cats!

re: #115 MandyManners

Mandy...what's your blog? Please seend me an e-mail link if you don't mind.

We've all come so far since the days of Baal(ah.
/

Imagine trying to say B-a-a-l with one or more of you lips split, or teeth missing. What's it sound like?

(Cutting away parts of lips (and/or tongue and/or teeth) used to be a common form of punishment in ancient times, esp for things spoken against someone in power.)

(OT) re: #49 coquimbojoe

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

Not that I know of. But see here: May 18th, 2008 8:23 pm
Still Dead in Dallas. An Update on the Double Honor Murders

re: #120 Macker

She's still setting it up, I believe.

I have noticed that the "human rights" leftists turn a blind eye to this culture. It is obvious to me that these women need serious help and a result of our war on terror will be the liberation of these women.

These Soros socialist leftys that spend all of their time propagating how stupid George Bush is and how evil our military is need to wake up and look at the positive results of this war.

re: #115 MandyManners

Good Girl. :)

re: #97 LindaMarie

It is an UNholy book of EVIL.

Come on kafirs. This is really all taken "out of context".

Oh the context? Well Um... Er.. How dare you question our religion!

Why does did the Canadian Islamic organizations think they needed a 5000 word rebuttal for something that only takes these few word of dialog EVERY DAMN TIME.

re: #111 OjoeIt would, in the horror/fiction aisle.

re: #121 abolitionist

(Cutting away parts of lips (and/or tongue and/or teeth) used to be a common form of punishment in ancient times, esp for things spoken against someone in power.)

The Muslims have simplifed this - take off the whole head. In front of the people as witnesses.

re: #128 LindaMarie

Islamic efficient terrorists.

Muhammed Parvez’s lawyer, Joseph Ciraco, has said that more than just cultural issues played a role.

Ah yes, and what were the other things that played a role in your decision to murder your own daughter you sick f***?

re: #130 Sizzlack

she probably refused to "service" him. YUCK.

re: #123 bellamags

Check out this fine progress in iraq, women making progress.

re: #123 bellamags

I have noticed that the "human rights" leftists turn a blind eye to this culture. It is obvious to me that these women need serious help and a result of our war on terror will be the liberation of these women.

These Soros socialist leftys that spend all of their time propagating how stupid George Bush is and how evil our military is need to wake up and look at the positive results of this war.

Exactly - my husabnd says - where are the western women?
I think we cannot count/expect the "liberal" bra burner to give damn about this. Would ruin their day.
I think it might have to come to the religous church going western women to take a stand for the other women in the world.
I will even go back to church if that happens. And praise God for it.

People, especially the CBC, would be glad to ignore the enormous elephant in the room but it all boils down to emotionally-backward misogynists killing their own children because they couldn't control them.
We should expect more of this.

re: #12 Killgore Trout
A hundred updings if I could for that one Killgore!

re: #132 Ojoe

you made me cry at work in front of customers! that was so cool. I want to hug both of them.

OT :

Political Freelancers Use Web to Join the Attack

Produced here in a cluttered former motel behind the Sony Pictures lot, it juxtaposed harsh statements about Islam made by the Rev. Rod Parsley with statements from Mr. McCain praising Mr. Parsley, a conservative evangelical leader. The montage won notice on network newscasts this spring and ultimately helped lead Mr. McCain, the likely Republican presidential nominee, to reject Mr. Parsley’s earlier endorsement.

That would seem to apply to people like Robert Anderson, a professor at Elon University in North Carolina whose modest YouTube site features videos flattering to Mr. Obama and unflattering to Mr. McCain, or Paul Villarreal, who from his apartment in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., has produced a harsh series of spots that attack Mr. Obama and make some claims that have been widely debunked.

Slob the knob, Times, it's whatcha do best.

re: #133 LindaMarie
The leftist women would have to think, not feel and that is hard.

re: #136 bellamags

My God this is the real progress and in general we hear nothing about it.

Only the strong can be gentle

re: #93 Ojoe

If you do not respect children you will not respect anything.

I would like to see islam go the way of the religion of the Aztecs

In downtown San Jose, there is a giant sculpture of the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl fashioned into the shape of a giant eight foot high coiled dog turd. Never mind that the local native American Ohlone had little to no connection with the Aztecs. The City leaders thought it appropriate and right to put this statue of an alien god of a foreign people in the midst of the city.

re: #104 pingjockey

Yep, read it before my last trip to the Gulf. Know your enemy and all that. It is full of statements that contradict each other, murder, mayhem, hypocrisy, misogyny, blackmail, truly a fine book.///

Did it seem peaceful to you? I've heard it's all about peace.

re: #140 Syrah

Carrie some curse with it don't you think?

re: #141 debutaunt
The peace of the grave.

Ah, Dear, do you think that the new neighbors are a little odd?

re: #142 Ojoe

"Carries" PIMF

re: #132 Ojoe

Check out this fine progress in iraq, women making progress.

Very moving story.

Yesterday saw a couple in the car -- she was wearing the Hijab, but sitting in the front seat. Their daughter, who looked about 12, was in the back without the scarf. Hope, or a seething dad waiting to erupt?

re: #142 Ojoe

Carrie some curse with it don't you think?

I would suppose so. Any homage to a deity that demanded daily human sacrifice can't end well.

A precious angry Muslim male charged for Murder in Canada? What punishment will he get? Does Canadian Human Rights Commission have anything to say?

I'll guess he gets 1 year probation. You know - because Muslim men are given holy victim status and are regarded as special and privileged.

re: #132 Ojoe

Check out this fine progress in iraq, women making progress.

Great story.

re: #147 Lucius Septimius

maybe the mom was having a bad hair day.

re: #135 realwest

Agreed on the updings.

Hey Real, if you're still around, thanks for the note; I replied.

re: #151 bellamags

maybe the mom was having a bad hair day.

Well I know I am, so perhaps ...

re: #132 Ojoe

We have three women here taking driving lessons. I told then we would steal the keys and go for a cruise.
An exaggeration. Security would never let me.
The danger is so much higher here then it was two years ago.
But they laughed and appreciated the comment.
I told them you can do it, don't be afraid. I was driving before you were born. Hey they are all in their twenties, not that I am old!
By the way traffic here is horrible - no lights - no nothing. Push foreward with the biggest car and hope you win. Yikes!

I've seen link after link that shows that the hijab is a creation of the 1970's. On the other hand, I'm familiar with the "dhimmi scarf" worn by Christian women in areas formerly occupied by muslims, too.

In either case, it's disgusting that a girl in Canada died because she refused to wear one. Just revolting.

re: #74 pingjockey
Uh, I'm reading this thread from the bottom up, but I don't see what McCain has to do with this thread - over on the prior thread, sure, but this thread?!

re: #156 realwest
Forgot the OT, was going through yesterdays mail.

#140 Ojoe

Ah yes, Q.: The PARK GOD (think "REVOlution"); the item that a very large and slightly "loose", yet neat and tidy, dog managed to coil up before he left.

I fear that Islam will take many years to go the way of the Aztecs, and ruin billions of lives in the process.

Muslim American women confront domestic abuse

[Link: www.iht.com...]

Newsflash! NOW, The Feminist Majority, and Gloria Steinem have issued a joint statement on this terrible case. Here's the text of it:

*Chirping Crickets.*

You know if an evangelical dad murdered his daughter for not dressing modestly enough or for refusing to wear a cross, you would NEVER hear the end of it. In fact, that will probably be the Law and Order or Cold Case version of events, because Muslims never do bad things, only serious Christians do. I will never understand a faith that says you can murder your daughter for not dressing modestly enough, having premarital sex, or marrying a man of her choosing, but it's hunky dory to send her off at the tender age of nine to marry and have full relations with a man old enough to be her grandfather. I'd rather be a Scientologist than join the ROP.

re: #120 Macker

Mandy...what's your blog? Please seend me an e-mail link if you don't mind.

I'm still working on it. I foolishly thought I'd have more time to work on it once I didn't have to drive two hours a day to get The Kid to school. Duh. In between camp, swimming lessons, doing an exponentially greater number of laundry loads and the like, I am swamped. Also, I've let the technical aspects intimidate me. I've loads of links, though.

I'll search for your addy.

re: #147 Lucius Septimius

I don't know.

I used to see that a lot in Fremont; the mothers still were very traditional, some of the daughters weren't. But I also saw little girls swathed in those awful bags, too.

Let's plump for what you saw being a hopeful sign.

re: #154 LindaMarie

That sounds like Turkey. Whoever has the bigger vehicle gets the right away. I've seen drivers pull metal bars and bricks out of cars to settle "disputes". hehehehe.
I just wonder if there are any statistics on how many traffic accidents are caused by scarfies or the women wearing penguin suits.

re: #160 lazypadawan

Hasn't there already been a Law and Order on this topic? I'm pretty sure I've seen a Cold Case like this. The latter is about the snarkiest show I've ever seen. Other than the skinny chick's lips and prissy look, I don't know why people watch it.

re: #161 MandyManners

When you get the blog up, let me know, 'k?

re: #162 Dianna

I had a pair of Turkish students -- sisters. The older one wore the Hijab, the younger one didn't.

Then there was the Moroccan student I had -- If my daughter went out of the house dressed like her, I might be tempted to convert to wahabism.

re: #163 baconeatingkaffir

bacon! How are you doing? Long time no "see."

re: #163 baconeatingkaffir

In Fremont, lots! The women in those stupid bags - even if they don't cover the face - have terrible peripheral vision, and they get in lots of accidents.

I wonder if there are any statistics?

re: #159 Dustyvet

Muslim American women confront domestic abuse

[Link: www.iht.com...]

Good one.

re: #163 baconeatingkaffir

I just wonder if there are any statistics on how many traffic accidents are caused by scarfies or the women wearing penguin suits.

Sort of like Isadora Duncan ...

An Imam's Guide to deal with domestic violence

Please read before commenting:

[Link: www.soundvision.com...]

re: #167 Lucius Septimius

Its summer here and unfortunately I'm teaching the first session of summerschool. Still, I can't complain. My oldest stepdaughter left for China today to represent Turkey in the annual worldwide Chinese language competition there.

re: #158 Arbalest

#140 Ojoe

Apologies: Should be #140 Syrah

re: #165 Lucius Septimius

When you get the blog up, let me know, 'k?

Will do.

re: #169 MandyManners

Good one.

Mandy please check this one:

[Link: www.soundvision.com...]

re: #166 Lucius Septimius

Ah, well.

Daughters are a worry, aren't they?

re: #170 Lucius Septimius

Oh...ouch!

re: #159 Dustyvet

Muslim American women confront domestic abuse

[Link: www.iht.com...]

Activists describe mosques as the most effective way to reach Muslims because immigrant societies remain heavily patriarchal and because American mosques serve as community centers. The latter also means that immigrant imams ill-equipped to deal with social problems are prone to give battered women advice like "Read the Koran more," or will try couples counseling, which can bring disastrous consequences at home.

Hmmm...

re: #171 Dustyvet

An Imam's Guide to deal with domestic violence

Please read before commenting:

[Link: www.soundvision.com...]

Who is this guy? I think I love him.

The attitude of lefty women to "scarfies" cracks me up. One of the women I work with here (a Canadian) got upset with me because I refused to give up my seat on the bus for a scarfie woman. I told her that if the lady wants to be a second class citizen she can stand becuase I'm a man. She pouted all the way to work but when she started lamenting to my Turkish women colleagues they sided with me! ahahahaa.

re: #176 Dianna

Ah, well.

Daughters are a worry, aren't they?

Yes they are. Her tendency to strip and dance on tables concerns me. Granted she's three, but it's still a worry.

re: #154 LindaMarie

Good for your three friends. It is the women who will change or get rid of islam. The men are privileged in it, though miserable too, and most will never change

re: #171 Dustyvet

An Imam's Guide to deal with domestic violence

Please read before commenting:

[Link: www.soundvision.com...]

8. Prepare your community for zero tolerance

Number 8 caught my attention

It took more than one of these 'big men' to kill a little girl?  Sheesh.  No wonder they're in a war involving stealth, lurking, cowardice, and lies ... a direct conflict would kick their asses.  I swear I have never seen a less manly folk ...

}:)     [Religion of peace my ass ...]

It seems we have reached an age where pandering to special interests and separatist cultural groups is more important than addressing the idea of an American.

Opening one's society to this 3rd World bullshit is like slitting one's wrists.

No tolerance for this, I say the whole family should be deported back to Pakistan, back to their 3rd World shithole.

Take your vile, filthy ways the hell out of my neighborhood.

Big tough muslim men huh? Strangled a 16 year old girl, in the name of allah and your twisted sense of honor?

spit

re: #183 Dustyvet

8. Prepare your community for zero tolerance

Number 8 caught my attention

III. If you live in the United States, it is illegal to hit your spouse and can result in imprisonment and loss of children to non-Muslim families.

The Muslims always say honor killings reflect particular local cultures, i.e. pre-Islamic tribal customs, and thus have nothing to do with Islam.

I figure Islam has had 1400 years or so to make them into better people, and hasn't budged them an inch. I conclude that Islam and honor killings are perfectly compatible. Islam originated in a particular Arab tribe, after all, in a culture that condoned honor killings.

Some say that Islam is Arab cultural imperialism.

Islam is not making a dent in female genital mutilation either.

Then there's all that other stuff that happens in the Muslim world and they simply pretend not to see it: Homosexuality, child molestation, tribal warfare, racism, slavery, drug dealing, alcohol drinking, etc.

I mention homosexuality with the other things because it is prohibited by their religion, is rampant in many countries their world anyway, and yet its occurrence in the West is cited as evidence of the moral superiority of Islam

re: #179 MandyManners

Who is this guy? I think I love him.

Abdul Malik Mujahid

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #12 Killgore Trout

What does Canada have to do with anything? How about dealing with the problems of what Muslim women face in Muslim culture. These honor killings happen all over the world.

This is the bid for government funding.

"We need more money to investigate the particular difficulties faced by Muslim newcomers to Canada. We need outreach groups and paid consultation and sensitivity training of insensitive non-Muslims. Our experts can be hired for a hefty fee."

re: #186 neverquit

We' ve gone back Tammany Hall politics but on a national scale.

re: #182 Ojoe

Good for your three friends. It is the women who will change or get rid of islam. The men are privileged in it, though miserable too, and most will never change

that is exactly what i'm thinking.
it will be the women who see other possibilities for themselves beyond subservience and abuse. good roll models like hirsi ali will inspire many.

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

To properly handle this kind of situation, the shelters would have to be protected 24/7 by armed security guards, and enough of them that some of them could escort the ladies on their trips into public areas.
To defray long-term costs it would be necessary to offer self-defense courses to everyone.
And if it's going to work like that, why not extend those services to cartoonists, filmmakers, and other artists, as well as those who have decided to renounce certain faiths? How about business owners who happen to live near "Sensitive Urban Zones"?

re: #189 Dustyvet

Abdul Malik Mujahid

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I don't see a CAIR connection. Maybe he's one of those rare creatures, a moderate Musim.

re: #193 George guy

To properly handle this kind of situation, the shelters would have to be protected 24/7 by armed security guards, and enough of them that some of them could escort the ladies on their trips into public areas.
To defray long-term costs it would be necessary to offer self-defense courses to everyone.
And if it's going to work like that, why not extend those services to cartoonists, filmmakers, and other artists, as well as those who have decided to renounce certain faiths? How about business owners who happen to live near "Sensitive Urban Zones"?

We're discussing Canadian DV so I don't know what to do about European cartoonists. They're in far fewer numbers and are far less vulnerable than victims of DV.

re: #193 George guy

But, I appreciate the gist of what you're saying. I really do.

We are surrounded and out numbered. I like these odds!

re: #16 red satellite

Canadians capitulating to Sharia law...in 4...3...2...

From 2005:

"Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty says there will be no sharia law in his province and that he will move to ban all faith-based arbitrations.

"Seeking to end months of debate, McGuinty said he would not let his province become the first Western government to allow the use of Islamic law to settle family disputes and that the boundaries between church and state would become clearer by banning religious arbitration completely.

"'There will be no Shariah law in Ontario. There will be no religious arbitration in Ontario. There will be one law for all Ontarians,' McGuinty told The Canadian Press..."

re: #18 Cartman

ROP, my ass.

Hey! Where'd my sarc tag go?

;)

The smiley face: it's the new, approved sarc tag.

/

re: #174 MandyManners

Will do.

Don't let Summer join or he'll play havoc with your rules.

re: #20 Sharmuta

Bull! This is all about the cultural issues. Westerners, as a whole, do not kill their daughters over clothing. Westerners, as a whole, do not think of their daughters as property- able to be tossed in the garbage if they do not comply with the wishes of the family and cultural dictates. In the west, we don't kill our daughters over "honor" disputes.

When I was in high school, one of my friends was a Jehovah's Witness. She bought eye shadow and lipstick and kept them in her locker. She'd put her make-up on in the school washroom in the morning and take it off before she went home.

Never did she or anyone else fear that her family would beat or murder her for being rebellious.

re: #191 Egfrow

We' ve gone back Tammany Hall politics but on a national scale.

I fail to see how the murder of a 16 yr old girl, by those she trusted the most in her life, over a head vail, allah, and "family honor", has any relation to Tammany.

re: #19 VegasRick

What the hell is wrong with these people animals savages? The mind reels.

re: #21 cutestguy

Hang on, I like animals.

OK, fixed.

teenage moslem girls in the free world will continue to push the limits of islamic restrictions.
how can they not? when faced w/ all that is enticing and fun and frivolous in a free and open society.
how can they not want green fingernail polish and strawberry parfait lipstick and a snappy hair cut w/ not hijab to mess it up?
how sad that such innocent joys are the reason for such lethal rage.
these moslem killers should have never come here and thought they could implement their screed.
their horrendous beliefs clash w/ our society and must give way.
there is no compromising w/ such animals.

re: #200 debutaunt

Don't let Summer join or he'll play havoc with your rules.

Actually, it's a she. All present Lizards--excluding any banned ones who've rejoined under a sock puppet nic--will be able to post once I get it going.

Later!

re: #203 Bob in Breckenridge

Y'know, half the reason we're in the trouble we are in is on account the whole "noble savage" bs foisted on us by Rousseau.

Savagery is savagery.

Sounds to me like a "don't screw with my eternal life fantasy" moment to me.

Don't stop with the charges with just the dad and brother. The police need to arrest the Imam at their Mosque.

If a white supremacist were to murder a African American and it turned out that the murderer regularly attended official meetings of some racist skinhead group, you can bet that the leader of that group would be charged with incitement.

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

Yes. In muslim communities they're called mosques.
/

The mind still boggles at the mentality of this deathcult. They want their own women to become scarfies or black moving objects yet feel no problem about harrassing non muslim women or foreigners. I find this a religion of irresponsibility. On the brighter side, the courts here re-banned the headscarf in government places and schools. There is still hope, I guess.

Something that just occurred to me...

Supposedly, homosexuality is at least as enormous a sin in Islam as a woman not covering her head.

Yet how often do you hear about Muslim fathers killing their sons for engaging in homosexual activity?

Do you expect me to believe that NO gay young muslim men try to act on their desires?

It is just easier for these cowards to kill girls and young women. Plus, a female is only half a human being in their "culture," anyway.

re: #105 LindaMarie

B**l Sh*t - they take the veils off every chance they get when they will not get beaten for it.
It the words of one Afghan male - I will pull your pants down and rape you on the street if you uncover your hair in the office again.

That's horrifying.

/Religion of Peace.

re: #195 MandyManners
re: #196 MandyManners

Of course, here's how such an organization would likely play out in the media.

1. The MSM would for the most part ignore it.
2. CAIR would issue a press release calling the organization's approach questionable and demand investigation.
3. The MSM would find some time to talk about it and give CAIR's spokesweasels all the airtime they want to give their spin on the matter. Footage of the armed guards combined with footage of the self-defense courses will be used to cast the organization as some kind of far-right militia, and if the demographics of who the organization serves can be spun to indicate an anti-Muslim bias, CAIR can find a judge who will buy it as probable cause.

re: #212 Tigger2005

Something that just occurred to me...

Supposedly, homosexuality is at least as enormous a sin in Islam as a woman not covering her head.

Yet how often do you hear about Muslim fathers killing their sons for engaging in homosexual activity?

Do you expect me to believe that NO gay young muslim men try to act on their desires?

Well, they have the Brotherhood and the various Islamist regimes to help them out in that regard.

Well, I went to CAIR Canada's website and used their "Report Hate Crimes" feature to send them a link to this story. It is the perfect definition of a hate crime against a Muslim.

re: #216 Mich-again

Well, I went to CAIR Canada's website and used their "Report Hate Crimes" feature to send them a link to this story. It is the perfect definition of a hate crime against a Muslim.

Indeed -- you reporting the story would be a "hate crime."

re: #217 Lucius Septimius

After Saddam was hung, the Dearborn Sunnis were pissed at the Dearborn Shias for celebrating and they vandalized some Shia restaurants and shops. And then CAIR-Mich released a statement decrying the vandalism of Muslim-owned businesses without ever mentioning the tiny fact that other Muslims were the perps. As an organization they have no credibility and even less honor.

Maybe the Canadian version is different, but I doubt that.

My husband and I were at a shopping mall in Scarborough, Ontario (Canada) yesterday when I saw a woman in the full garb, with her face covered, etc.

Whenever I see a woman dressed like that, I later think, "I should have whispered, 'Jesus died on the cross,' or 'Jesus is the Son of God', or 'Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Amen'. I'm not Catholic but maybe I should make the sign of the cross.

If she can wear her religious/political statement on her face, I should be able to pray (or gesture) quietly.

My husband thinks I'd be charged with a hate crime.

(No sarc tag. No smiley face, either.)

Absolutely disgusting, but sadly, this is not surprising. I am waiting for type of crime to start happening more here.

re: #219 Josephine

I either chuckle at them or give them elevator eyes and pretend to ogle them. Respect. Not a drop.

Funny how the stated reason for Muslim women to cover themselves is to dissuade attention and show humility, and they try to accomplish that by making complete spectacles of themselves with outfits that scream out to the world "HEY EVERYONE... LOOK AT ME!"

re: #49 coquimbojoe

Did they ever catch the father of the two girls in Texas after he murdered them?

See also here - info update on the Jan 1 double murder in Irving, Texas:
American Girls Published on June 19, 2008

The spin will be:
Her callous and multiculturally unaware classmates who forced, ridiculed and shamed her into trying to fit in are to blame for this tragedy.
I forsee more Islamic awareness programs in the near future.

re: #197 Egfrow

We are surrounded and out numbered. I like these odds!

"We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction."

-- Douglas MacArthur

re: #105 LindaMarie

B**l Sh*t - they take the veils off every chance they get when they will not get beaten for it.
It the words of one Afghan male - I will pull your pants down and rape you on the street if you uncover your hair in the office again.

Obviously you did not read my entire post.

re: #221 Mich-again

Exactly. Add to that: "I'm holy and you're a stinking pile of dog poop that doesn't deserve to gaze upon my Islamic purity. I can't wait until my husband and I can force you to grovel in our superior presence."

Now I know why there's no Islamic equivalent of the children's song, "Jesus Loves Me".

"Allah is greatest, this I know
For the men all tell me so:
Cover your face you little whore
Or your brothers and I will beat you more..."

re: #224 Dustyvet

"We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction."

-- Douglas MacArthur

When surrounded at Bastogne, Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe answered "NUTS!" and the Screaming Eagles fought on until the siege was lifted.

re: #219 Josephine

i just frown and blatantly stare. how can you not when confronted w/ such a hideous spectacle?

re: #228 nyc redneck

i just frown and blatantly stare. how can you not when confronted w/ such a hideous spectacle?

Well that's...intolerant.

re: #228 nyc redneck

i just frown and blatantly stare. how can you not when confronted w/ such a hideous spectacle?

I agree.

Since staring is Islamophobia in the UK, I'm not sure it wouldn't be classed as a hate crime here in Canada.

Just be glad you're in America.

Clark blasts McCain's military service

Interesting, I notice that General Clark lacked the balls, to go after Hanoi John Kerry's record in the 2004 Presidential Race. Bet he got all those campaign ribbons at a local army surplus store three for $1.00, along with the stars.
Frigging coward!

You'll never guess what this is.

re: #82 LindaMarie

I open it here and do the best I can to help the women

You mean you have a women's shelter in a Muslim-dominated area?

Where can I send the donation? THAT is a charity worth supporting.

(This is what to do with all that cash that John McCain ain't getting as long as he persists in supporting this foolish immigration bill.)

This town shows up over and over in these types of stories:

Mississauga, Ontario

re: #159 Dustyvet

Muslim American women confront domestic abuse

[Link: www.iht.com...]

This is a good article. I like this approach:

The challenge for most organizations is getting accurate legal information to women who are often closeted at home and may not speak English. Hamdard developed several novel solutions. Briefing area grocery store owners and hairdressers that cater to Muslims produced numerous referrals. More often, it organizes mosque seminars about breast cancer, then slips in a few minutes about domestic violence.

re: #230 Josephine

I agree.

Since staring is Islamophobia in the UK, I'm not sure it wouldn't be classed as a hate crime here in Canada.

Just be glad you're in America.

isn't that outrageous. looking at some one is now considered a crime in some places.
but of course, imagine the suffering of the delicate victim who was scarred for life because a vicious perp "looked" at them.
wonder what the penalty for that would be, maybe 10 yrs. in jail.
i'm going to keep up the criminal behavior when i see these grim reaper apparitions coming toward me.
i'm going to stare and risk getting arrested.
fck it.

Muslim woman in full hijab participating in go-cart race “insults” Islam

No comment.

"TV show contestant ‘shamed herself and insulted Muslims," from The Times, June 29:

A muslim woman has been accused of shaming herself and insulting her religion by taking part in a reality TV motor-racing show.

Durban beauty therapist Nadira Dasoo has come under fire from a Gauteng Muslim organisation, Know Islam, believed to be behind an e-mail lambasting her for being a contestant in the Ultimate Grand Prix Drive, screened on SABC3 on Sunday nights.

Show contestants race in go-karts and cars and must perform various tasks.

Dasoo, a 29-year-old mother of two who maintained her religious dress code throughout the contest, was eliminated from the show last week.

The e-mail said : “This Muslim sister of ours has made a mistake and we are here to remind her of the wrong she did.

Take heed, Nadira; the next “reminder” may well consist of hurled stones.

“In your headscarf you participated in a kaafir (non-Muslim) male-dominated show, bringing shame to yourself and insulting Muslims throughout the world.

“You allowed your body to be touched by a kaafir in a manner which will create excitement in any man ... you seemed to be enjoying this.

“It was called ‘exercise’ and ‘training’, while this kaafir carried you up and down the stairs. What a travesty indeed!”

It went on to say that the majority of Muslim scholars and jurists had determined the minimum requirements for Muslim women’s dress, including:
* That clothing must cover the entire body, with the exception of the face and hands; and
* That the clothing should not be form-fitting, sheer or eye-catching as to attract undue attention or reveal the shape of the body.

Dasoo agrees she has “done wrong as a Muslim girl”.

“But when I was approached with the competition, I saw it as an opportunity, because this is something that I actually enjoy, Formula 1 racing, and I had the support of my husband.

Guess who also just got in trouble?...

“I took this opportunity, but I do realise I have done wrong as a Muslim woman,” she said. [...]

Women’s rights activist Shabnam Mohamed said: “I don’t think that certain aspects of the show can be justified according to Islamic principles. I think being carried by a man is deemed inappropriate. I do, however, think that there was a more sensitive way of managing the concerns expressed in this e-mail.

Mind you, this is coming from a “women’s right’s activist.” Oh wait, her name is “Mohamed.” Confusion solved.

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

re: #227 Dustyvet

When surrounded at Bastogne, Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe answered "NUTS!"*** and the Screaming Eagles fought on until the siege was lifted.

*** When given an ultimatum by the nazis to surrender during the Battle of the Bulge.
: )

re: #231 Dustyvet

Clark blasts McCain's military service

Interesting, I notice that General Clark lacked the balls, to go after Hanoi John Kerry's record in the 2004 Presidential Race. Bet he got all those campaign ribbons at a local army surplus store three for $1.00, along with the stars.
Frigging coward!

Clinton General. I'd spit at 'em before I'd salute them.

re: #231 Dustyvet

McCain would not even comment on Kerry's record.

He showed deference to the situation.

Clark has no class.

He has no honor.

re: #241 cutestguy

You know, I look at that article and think, "What doesn't offend Muslims?"

You could start a list as the opposite of this:
Things that offend Muslims

re: #48 MandyManners

Are there no battered woman shelters to reach out to this community?

Some battered women shelters in England have been compromised by Muslim police officers acting out of a sense of a higher duty to Islam.

Beautiful girl with her whole life ahead of her is gone.

Because of a piece of fabric? No. Because of a set of antiquated, hateful, and misogynistic beliefs that her western mind and free spirit rejected.

Where is the support in Canada for her human rights? We hear a lot about human rights violations charged against writers who dare to question Islam, but when is the last time we heard a word about abuse of young women BECAUSE of Islam?

Any chance this murder over a head scarf might make its way to the Canadian Human Rights Commissions?
Yeah, in a pig's eye.
This is really horrific behavoir by the father AND brother. Imagine the degradation of women required to make clothing a life or death matter?
This is a hate crime but I doubt the libtard Canadians would indict on those additional grounds. Don't want to offend their overlords.
Where are the outraged statements from NOW and other supposed feminazi groups against these and other horrors inflicted in Western Society from these Dark Agers.

What makes me even more angry is that the cops then have to treat this murdering scum as if it belongs to the human race.

I'm sure glad I'm not one of the cops having to handle these animals, the self-restraint the guys in blue have to exercise must be near intolerable.

If they show their hair today, they are killed before tomorrow!

Wait a minute...

I don't see the problem here. The "CHOICE" is very clear:

A.) Wear the hijab
B.) Die

Shit of course their women "freely choose" Option A!

Wouldn't you?

/

re: #84 MandyManners

Those are similar to my thoughts about the shelters. Well, except that non-Muslim men don't need to drink in order to beat their wives/girlfriends.

Sorry, you are right. I guess I just wanted to amplify the thought that religiously-approved and required violence against women may create the most dangerous risks of all.

Canuckistan is about to take place after Eurabia is completely dominated by Islamists

re: #246 eaglewingz08

Any chance this murder over a head scarf might make its way to the Canadian Human Rights Commissions?
Yeah, in a pig's eye.
This is really horrific behavoir by the father AND brother. Imagine the degradation of women required to make clothing a life or death matter?
This is a hate crime but I doubt the libtard Canadians would indict on those additional grounds. Don't want to offend their overlords.
Where are the outraged statements from NOW and other supposed feminazi groups against these and other horrors inflicted in Western Society from these Dark Agers.

On the contrary, callous and disrespectful comments by infidels about this murder, tending to bring hatred and contempt upon the perpetrators, would be hate crimes in the view of the Canadian Human Rights Commissions.

Like what I am doing right now.

Fathers are responsible for their daughters’ behavior, but human rights organizations deny this too. Brothers also should take action regarding their sisters’ behavior, especially if their parents are too old or dead. If a daughter or sister makes a mistake – especially a moral one – that negatively affects the entire family and its reputation, what’s the solution by such organizations?

Solution: In this land, in this civilization, individuals are free. These daughters can have any behavior they want, and tell the brother or father to f... right off. These organizations have no authority. The law of the land does. You dont like it, move to a country whose law support this. Like Iran. They happen to be shitholes? Ask yourself why.

The Canadians are going to throw the book at that scum.

A full year in jail.