Wow, do I hope the left decides this is a viable strategy.

I want a Clark bar!

This from the man that almost started WWIII out of arrogance.

He's widely mocked outside of the US.

And what about that train?

Weasely Clark is a weasel (News of the tautological :-)

Considering the crap Wesley Clark pulled in Bosnia, he's not one to talk.

What a jackass.

And of course being a "community organizer" is?

Maybe McCain doesn't have the best qualifications for being president, but his opponent's qualifications aren't even good enough for his current position as Senator.

Will the MSM point this out?

Weasely, why you wearing a war criminals hat?

‘I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president,” former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark told Face the Nation on Sunday.

1. And according the American Voters in the last election Wes, neither is being a desk jockey.
2.. Screw you

Hypocrisy and Irony

Words fail me

re: #7 Kosh's Shadow

And of course being a "community organizer" is?

Maybe McCain doesn't have the best qualifications for being president, but his opponent's qualifications aren't even good enough for his current position as Senator.

Will the MSM point this out?

Not commenting on this, just bears repeating.

I found that story last night and couldn't believe that moron said those things.
Of course, he is the darling of kos and they are posting multiple diaries about how McCain has no foreign policy experience.

‘I don’t think riding in a fighter plane swift boat and getting shot down at is a qualification to be president,” former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark told Face the Nation on Sunday.

I don't remember good Old Wes saying anything like this about Kerry

PS: screw you again Wes

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

I want a Clark bar!

I want Clark barred.

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

I want a Clark bar!

Is that like a Baby Ruth in a pool?

"This is not the Wesley Clark I knew"

Clark thrown under the Bush in 5,4,3,2...

If Obama was white, the MSM would be comparing him to George McGovern.

re: #15 jcm

Is that like a Baby Ruth in a pool?

I'm Wes Clark, and I'm reporting for dootie

BTW, would be cool to have the word "Supreme" in your job title.

What does Clark know about military matters? Oh I remember. He was a general once. Nearly got the US into a shooting war with the Russians in Kosovo until saner heads prevailed.

Right. And we should listen to Clark why? Because he's a Democrat?

He's nothing more than a smear merchant engaging in depraved audacity by attacking McCain's military record and experience as qualifications to be President when Obama lacks any experience at all.

Amazing. Obama has all the moonbat military men supporting him. All the Carter team. When will Pat Bucanan give his support to Obama?

More seriouosly, if McCain's service isn't enough, what about Obama's. Frankley, he has no more resume than I do when it comes to doing things that one would think of as making one qualified for the Presidency. ¹/₂ term as a Senator? Hell, he doesn't have enough experience for a lesser leadership role in the Senate.

As for outside experience, well, has the man ever held a real job? Chicago political hack doesn't count.

Weasely, did you kiss his ass too?

‘I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president

And Obama's qualifications are...? You sure you want to go there Wesley?

Is this the asshole who almost got us into a shooting war with the Russians?

Then again, Clark could simply be Hillary's revenge on Obama - after all, he was in Clinton's camp before she bailed. /revenge is a dish best served cold. /old klingon proverb

Yup, at least with McCain, he won't let any foreign powers attack us or mess with us, he apparently wants to do that himself .

Barack Obama was a community aggrandizer organizer. That's real service.

As a pilot myself, I agree that riding around in a fighter plane and getting shot down does not automatically qualify one to be president. It was how McCain conducted himself after being shot down that makes him thousands of times more qualified than Clark to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

So Wesley, "certainly honor[s] his service as a prisoner of war", but through omission, implies that he does not similarly honor McCain's combat service, and then actually demeans McCain's leadership of a fighter squadron, dismissing it as not being a 'wartime squadron'. Disgusting...

re: #12 Typicalwhitey

I found that story last night and couldn't believe that moron said those things.
Of course, he is the darling of kos and they are posting multiple diaries about how McCain has no foreign policy experience.

Which is the height of irony when one takes Senator Obama's foreign policy experience into account.

If Senator McCain has zero foreign policy experience, then Senator Obama's foreign policy expericenc is in negative double digits.

Ratko after the private meeting with Weasely.

re: #24 MandyManners

Good morning Miss Manners.

I honestly expected them to try to just not mention McCain's service. Bringing it up in any way other than "fawning" over it is downright stupid!

Demean a Navy Pilot for saying that his job in VietNam was no big deal, is a huge slap in the face to all VN Naval Pilots.

kos on his comments to the DLC about Senator Lieberman
What a fricken loser.

Clark went on to say: “That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded — that wasn’t a wartime squadron.”

Someone remind me, which wartime squadron was commanded by Rear Admiral Obama?

It’s a matter of gauging your opponents

Sen. McCain has BHO beat on this front. He knows that you just can't "talk" to someone like ShortShit and make him be nice.

POS.

re: #33 Typicalwhitey

re: #27 buzzsawmonkey

Barack Obama was a community aggrandizer organizer. That's real service.

Exactly which "communities" did he "organize" and how well are those "communities" thriving today?

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good morning Miss Manners.

I honestly expected them to try to just not mention McCain's service. Bringing it up in any way other than "fawning" over it is downright stupid!

Demean a Navy Pilot for saying that his job in VietNam was no big deal, is a huge slap in the face to all VN Naval Pilots.

Yeah, Clark stepped on his wahoo here.

re: #33 Typicalwhitey,

Linkey no workey.

So will Wesley Clark be the next victim of the Obama Bus?

*Bump* *Bump*

re: #20 Golem Akbar

Amazing. Obama has all the moonbat military men supporting him. All the Carter team. When will Pat Bucanan give his support to Obama?

Once Obama says how he really feels about the Jews ("I'm pandering to them because I need their support to get elected, then I'll throw them under the bus."), Pat will support Obama.

re: #33 Typicalwhitey

Oops here it really is:

What a loser

Snip:

So there I was, in the lion's den, calling Joe Lieberman an asshole.

And people applauded and cheered.

I'm not sure what that means, but I got the DLC to applaud me calling Lieberman an asshole. That means something.

What a concise arguement against Senator Lieberman's policies...sheesh!

I'm sure Obama will step out and "clarify" the comments.

I still think a great nic for Obama would be;

"The Great Clarifyer"

Eh, Obama is using Clark now....but later, he will throw him under the bus with the others.

Will this merit a "this is not the Wesley Clark I knew"? Place your bets.

For the past 7 years, we have heard that Bush isn't fit to be President because:
A) He didn't serve in combat
B) Neither of his kids enlisted.

Now that McCain fulfills both of those requirements, the goalposts have moved.

McCain's war time military experience was during WAR TIME, unless I'm way off. If not Vietnam, certainly the Cold War was on during McCain's military career, which fumbling stumbling Weasly WestPointy Clark nearly re-ignited during Clinton's failed presidency.

Was Clark doing dope in Hope with fellow Arkansan Bill Clinton at some point?

And of course, being a community (RE: communist) organizer grants one much more experience in gauging one's enemies than being locked up and tortured for five years. I mean, Barack has been a field general in the fight against the capitalists for his entire life!

Why is it that the left hates the military 90% of the time, excepting the politically motivated kooks like Clark? Oh yeah...they're useful...

re: #39 MandyManners,

"Wahoo"? Is that a euphamism for "dick"? How characteristically understated of you, Mandy.

:-)

I can't think of anything germane, nor witty, so I will just echo "Screw you, Wesley Clark."

re: #41 Honorary Yooper

Ack! You beat me.

re: #41 Honorary Yooper

So will Wesley Clark be the next victim of the Obama Bus?

*Bump* *Bump*

That's not the Wesley Clark I once knew. Toss.

Clark explained: “In the matters of national security policy making, it’s a matter of understanding risk.”

Right, and that's why you nearly got us into war with the Russians.

Oh, and of course your guy Obama is all about gauging opponents and understanding risk, isn't he?

Wes Clark is the political version of an internet troll

I would normally not say anything like this, but Clark's such a tool.

Wes - shouldn't you be out shooting unarmed civilians somewhere? How dare he take potshots (for that now chickensh*t Obama) about McCain - what exactly qualifies you to make these judgements, Wes-buddy?

Seriously, how close were you to starting a hot war with Russia, how stupid exactly are you? These are not rhetorical questions, how f*cking dumb are you, you political hack, POS?

/better now.

Nothing, but nothing pisses me off more politically than to have someone question McCains wartime service/credentials.

Obama is not fit to wipe McCains boots in this matter.

Why would they attack McCain on this matter, I can't believe there is anyone, Dem or Republican, that would doubt McCain on this issue.
The man had the guts to refuse early release while being tortured, never knowing if the torture would result in death!

That took guts that probably 99.99% of us simply do not have!

re: #21 Iron Fist

More seriouosly, if McCain's service isn't enough, what about Obama's. Frankley, he has no more resume than I do when it comes to doing things that one would think of as making one qualified for the Presidency. ¹/₂ term as a Senator? Hell, he doesn't have enough experience for a lesser leadership role in the Senate.

As for outside experience, well, has the man ever held a real job? Chicago political hack doesn't count.

* * *
Dear IronFist,

Hack with Hope is ENOUGH qualifications for many Americans, in their COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

Yes, electing a Chicago sheister with no military experience while we're in a GLOBAL WAR is what Democrats think is right. And military democrats want another appeasement minded lawyer for president.

Gotta love that Face Disgrace The Nation.
And General Clark is such a good little Dem tool - sure sounds like he's running for something.

re: #43 Typicalwhitey

Markos is just pissed that his boy Lamont lost the general election to Lieberman.

Markos, the Dudmaker.

Anybody feel like puking?
The msm makes me sick.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Wesley Clark shows how low the Barack Obama campaign will go through their surrogates.

These are George Soros' surrogates.

From 2006:
Billionaire Soros Gives Financial Boost to General Clark

Hello George!

re: #27 buzzsawmonkey

Barack Obama was a community aggrandizer organizer. That's real service.

* * *
And...Porkmeister for Rev. Wright's favorite charity! $15 million or more to the Taqiyyah United Caliphate Coverup organization in Chicago. Delivering old fashioned pork to Chicago, not too shabby for a "new, change, hope" kinda guy.

And Obama, that community organizin' rocket scientist messiah - don't get me started about his qualifications...

Since when does greasing the palms of every crooked developer in Illinois trump 30 years of elected service on top of a harrowing military one?

How many of those developments you greased palms for are actually still fit for humans to live in, and do you give a fat rats ass about that? How organized is this community you represented, exactly?

Wesley Clark is an asshole. WTF did he ever do? F* him and the moped he rode in on.

re: #34 Occasional Reader

Someone remind me, which wartime squadron was commanded by Rear Admiral Obama?

McCain commanded that unit during the Cold War - at a time when pilots were required to be prepared for a fight with the Soviets at any time...

re: #38 VegasRick

Exactly which "communities" did he "organize" and how well are those "communities" thriving today?

Do mean to imply, sir, that the South Side of Chicago is anything less than a tranquil (and socialist) paradise? How dare you!

you go loons,

your our best chance,

keep it up, you will do more to piss off the base and get out the vote
for McLame, he will not do it himself so thanks a bunch..

of note:

Wes Clark on his Purple Heart,,

"well truth is I got hit in the butt crawling away from my company during a fire fight"

re: #38 VegasRick

Exactly which "communities" did he "organize" and how well are those "communities" thriving today?

The have one hell of a bus stop.

re: #60 Honorary Yooper

I know.
But now there are multiple diaries on there condemning McCains service.
I have never seen anything like that site, as soon as one of their tools says something they all jump on the bandwagon.
So very easily led.

Fron 2007:
Why is Wesley Clark defending Soros?

This isn't the first time he has made such comments.

He said much of the same on Morning Joe on MSDNC a few weeks ago.

re: #47 Dave the.....,

Just like the goalposts of victory in Iraq. As long as it is a Republican or a Republican's war, it'll never be good enough. OTOH, a Democrat can dodge the draft, and he's fit to be Commander in Chief.

Not to mention getting blow jobs while discussing foreign policy.

*spit*

re: #47 Dave the.....

For the past 7 years, we have heard that Bush isn't fit to be President because:
A) He didn't serve in combat
B) Neither of his kids enlisted.

Now that McCain fulfills both of those requirements, the goalposts have moved.

With the moonbat left the goalposts are moving constantly... even on the same day they may move and then go back to their original position... never attempt to apply logic to the triple L's.

re: #28 SaracensAtTheGates

As a pilot myself, I agree that riding around in a fighter plane and getting shot down does not automatically qualify one to be president. It was how McCain conducted himself after being shot down that makes him thousands of times more qualified than Clark to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

* * *
McCain ALSO had the chutzpah to stand up to Ronald Reagan, whom he adored, in 1983 when our Marines were sent to Lebanon without adequate security.

McCain was right, Reagan was wrong, and it cost America about 190 murdered Marines.

McCain stood up to the biggest baddest Commander in Chief during the Cold War, for what was right. Weasely Clark isn't fit to lick McCain's flip flops.

re: #73 Iron Fist

,

Just like the goalposts of victory in Iraq. As long as it is a Republican or a Republican's war, it'll never be good enough. OTOH, a Democrat can dodge the draft, and he's fit to be Commander in Chief.

Not to mention getting blow jobs while discussing foreign policy.

*spit*

It all depends what the definition of is is.

re: #71 MacGregor

Fron 2007:
Why is Wesley Clark defending Soros?

He's putting Soros' money where his mouth is.

Clark...what a tool. He was removed for cause. That means some level of reporting fraud or serious moral failure. Not worth the effort of a court marshal, but serious enough for immediate termination and removal from position of authority.

Oden is another life support system for an ass hole.

Wasn't this the same Wesley Clark who was fired by Bill Clinton from his NATO position because he threatened nukes when confronting a Russian general in the Balkans? Isn't this the same Wesley Clark who whored his political allegiance to which ever Party would offer him the best deal after 9-11?

It looks like Wesley is willing to throw a fellow military veteran under the bus to curry favor and perhaps a nice, fat Secretary position in a Obama administration. Would you classify Clark as a REMF?

The media left is preparing to deploy its cherished Vietnam mythology on a massive scale.

Some on left target McCain's war record

But farther to the left—and among some of McCain's conservative enemies as well—harsher attacks are circulating. Critics have accused McCain of war crimes for bombing targets in Hanoi in the 1960s.

Then there is this classic invocation of the Myth:

The newsletter CounterPunch published this April an article by Doug Valentine headed 'Meet the Real John McCain: North Vietnam's Go-To Collaborator.'

Valentine suggested McCain contemplated suicide—something the candidate has written about, and attributed in part to his guilt at not withstanding torture—because he was a 'war criminal' whose bombs fell on civilians.

Finally, some undiluted Radio Hanoi propaganda from that period:

'I wouldn't characterize anybody who fought in Vietnam as a war hero,' said Medea Benjamin, a co-founder of the theatrical anti-war group Code Pink. 'In 23 bombing sorties, there must have been civilians that were killed and there's no heroism to that.'

'Anyone who can't look back and admit how wrong it was to be in Vietnam and be killing civilians deserves to be challenged,' she said, though she stressed that her group is more focused on McCain's present support for the war in Iraq than on his past.

I wouldn't spit on the Stalinist pig Medea Benjamin if her ass were on fire. There is still time to settle accounts with many of the Vietnam era traitors, though probably not Ted Kennedy (we know about), Chomsky (age 78), or Cronkite (90).

In ten years, maybe less, the power of the media-industrial complex and its stereotyped 60s cultural paradigm will have declined to the point at which real action is possible.

Conservative commentator Daniel Flynn thinks the en masse resurrection of the iconic 60s traitors will backfire on Obama this year.

Let us hope he is right.

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, this is the same bs soros pulls every four years.

As a hard and fast rule, I have a deep and abiding love and respect for all military people, past, present and future. Having said that, I have absolutely zero respect for this moonbat turncoat, My late father was a thrice-decorated WWII vet, and despised this guy. He taught me to think for myself, but in this instance his opinion is all I need. So, from me and my Pop to you, Clark - sod off.

re: #65 mich-again

Wesley Clark is an asshole. WTF did he ever do? F* him and the moped he rode in on.

I'll tell you what he did. He almost started WWIII.

Expect some "daring" media droid to go to Vietnam and interview some alleged victims of McCain's bombing missions (with Stalinist minders just off camera and a hefty bonus waiting at home).

re: #49 BGOH

And of course, being a community (RE: communist) organizer grants one much more experience in gauging one's enemies than being locked up and tortured for five years. I mean, Barack has been a field general in the fight against the capitalists for his entire life!

Why is it that the left hates the military 90% of the time, excepting the politically motivated kooks like Clark? Oh yeah...they're useful...

* * *
West Point Wes Clark, doing the "swift boatin" Dems said they don't do.

re: #3 Ben Hur

This from the man that almost started WWIII out of arrogance.

He's widely mocked outside of the US.

Little historical footnote: the general who told him he wasn't going to start WWIII for him was the British General Mike Jackson - see here [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #67 Occasional Reader

Do mean to imply, sir, that the South Side of Chicago is anything less than a tranquil (and socialist) paradise? How dare you!

It's the baddest part of town.

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yah, but ya have to remember that Clark is helping Vice Commander Obama go after the military vote.

/Say what?

Clark...what a tool. He was removed for cause.

That is perfect.

re: #79 Avery Bullard

Wasn't this the same Wesley Clark who was fired by Bill Clinton from his NATO position because he threatened nukes when confronting a Russian general in the Balkans? Isn't this the same Wesley Clark who whored his political allegiance to which ever Party would offer him the best deal after 9-11?

It looks like Wesley is willing to throw a fellow military veteran under the bus to curry favor and perhaps a nice, fat Secretary position in a Obama administration. Would you classify Clark as a REMF?

I don't know what REMF is, but if it is analogous of repugnant a**hole then I say yes!

re: #54 Occasional Reader

Right, and that's why you nearly got us into war with the Russians.

Oh, and of course your guy Obama is all about gauging opponents and understanding risk, isn't he?

* * *
Clinton said we'd beat Milosevich in a year (1995)
America still has troops there!

America out of Bosnia! End Clinton's War for ____________!
I blame Wesley Clark's failure to plan for the end of the fighting.

Saw that one, and to tell the truth, so did Bob Schiefer as he tried to get Gen. Clark to STFU. Clark is obviously the "one S.O.B." that doesn't get the message.

-S-

I just did a monster.com search for a job titled community organizer and got 3 results, all in Ohio. I guess Obama and gang must have organized all of illinois and now moved on to Ohio. If a job is legitimate and is needed shouldn't there be listings all over the country?

REMF - Rear Echelon MF.

I am not sure what an MF is, unless someone here would call Wes a mother f*, you get the pic.

/ I thought that was just assumed.

re: #90 loppyd

I don't know what REMF is, but if it is analogous of repugnant a**hole then I say yes!

Rear Echelon Mother... uh, Fouler

I think LGFer Macker said it all with this link he posted at #247 on the Overnight thread:
[Link: www.antiwar.com...]

Don't send Obama to Ohio, we have enough problems.

re: #50 Iron Fist

,

"Wahoo"? Is that a euphamism for "dick"? How characteristically understated of you, Mandy.

:-)

Chief Wahoo McDaniel - not a dick.

re: #86 yma o hyd

Little historical footnote: the general who told him he wasn't going to start WWIII for him was the British General Mike Jackson - see here [Link:

weasel clark is not fit to shine McCain's boots.

this is exceptionally low. i'm not sure what else to say about it.

Let Bud Day discuss Obama's qualifications. That would be telling.

Obama's friend Bernadine Dohrn in 1969

THe strategy seems a little to obvious. Have a surrogate (Clark), raise this up the flag pole & see who salutes.
If it breakks bad, the Obama campaign can say that they had nothing to do with it. "We respect Senator McCain's record , blah, blah,blah."

By the way, according to one of the job descriptions for a "community organizer" one of the qualifications is to have a "desire to save the world" - you just can't make this stuff up - the truth is even funnier.

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

I want a Clark bar!

Oh yeah - that reminds me: Water found on Mars!

I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war.

Really. Which branch of the service is that?

re: #58 alegrias

* * *
Dear IronFist,

Hack with Hope is ENOUGH qualifications for many Americans, in their COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

Yes, electing a Chicago sheister with no military experience while we're in a GLOBAL WAR is what Democrats think is right. And military democrats want another appeasement minded lawyer for president.

Dear alegrias -
you don't get it, do you!
See - its because BHO has no experience he can start with a clean slate and HOPE to get rid of the terrible military mindset and so CHANGE the attitude to all those poor misguided terrorist nations!
See, they only need BHO's guidance and fresh HOPE, in order to CHANGE their attitude!
Experience is only a hindrance - and who needs it if they just have HOPE! Then they can CHANGE!

Now do you understand?

;-)

One's got a weasel and the other's got a flag.

McTool DaWeez Clark was not removed because of his run-in, contributing factor perhaps, but there is more. Spectacular poor judgment is cumulative.

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW, would be cool to have the word "Supreme" in your job title.

Only if you sing with Diana Ross.

I think Wesley is nuttier than a Clark bar.

re: #91 alegrias

* * *
Clinton said we'd beat Milosevich in a year (1995)
America still has troops there!

America out of Bosnia! End Clinton's War for ____________!
I blame Wesley Clark's failure to plan for the end of the fighting.

Yes, but we rescued Muslims. We brought them back to the States , so that they could plot attacks on Military bases in New Jersey.

re: #107 Mauser

What does that mean?

I expect Sandy Berger to come out soon and tell us all that John McCain doesn't have the ethics to be President.

For some undeterminable reason, Weasley Clark confuses being well-known with being significant.

A retired general that nobody listens to appearing on a tv show that nobody watches. What more could you ask for?

This from the only American General to be SUCCESSFULLY deposed by a mutiny by his own men!

That's right, look it up. Clarke's men mutinied against him, and their mutiny was upheld by the Pentagon, that's why he had to leave the Army!

The man is a complete disgrace.