Wow - what's next, he actually starts saluting during the national anthem?

Arrogant, isn't he?

questions? anyone have questions?

"the evil flee when no one pursueth"

Lefties are always so darn touchy about questions of patriotism...I wonder why?

“I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand cannot be sitted idly by when I hear others question mine,” he said.

A little LGF twist...

I still question his patriotism. Actually, I doubt he ever had any.

So there.

Very good B_O, now will you have the Dims STFU about McCain's military service being somehow flawed?

Well, he has dusted off his flag pin and started wearing it more. That has to mean he's sincere, right?

/

He and his campaign go out and besmirch the war record of John McCain and then Obama acts like the aggrieved party. So typical of this campaign were his sense of entitlement overwhelms every other concern.

He won't be questioning McCain's patriotism?

Um, yea, I wouldn't advise that either.

You can question my patriotism if you'd like. I'm more than happy to proove it, or at least be shown that I could improve.

Question Authority; Question Patriotism.

I would never question the quality of something he doesn't have.

I won't question his patriotism.

He possess none.

As Harry Truman spun in his grave.

Hanging with communists, convicted domestic terrorists, and race mongers, purposefully, for years = being patriotic, and don't you question me or I'll accuse you of being racist.

/BHO

And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine

Yeah- please save the idly standing by for the Star Spangled Banner.

What a snide little prick. If he does not want to have his patriotism questioned, why does he feel the need to define the word?

re: #13 illegal upchuck

I won't question his patriotism.

He possess none.

Oh, but he loves Cuba, and the old Soviet Union.

“I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine,” he said.

Moot point. How can he question a former POW, war hero's patriotism?

Obama said in a speech at the Harry Truman presidential library in Missouri that he would not sit back and watch his love of country questioned by political rivals.

I pledge allegiance to my genitals

/'splain that one you socialist black separatist that hates America and dislikes whitey

re: #10 mj

He and his campaign go out and besmirch the war record of John McCain and then Obama acts like the aggrieved party. So typical of this campaign were his sense of entitlement overwhelms every other concern.

Using their proxies, like Tom Harkin and Weaselly Clark.

I question his audacity.

re: #17 rawmuse

What a snide little prick. If he does not want to have his patriotism questioned, why does he feel the need to define the word?

Must have caught him mid-waffle.

Obama is nothing but an anarchist just like his followers, he's not fooling me or millions of other TRUE Americans!

Okay, I won't question your patriotism.
Next question.
Are you a commie?

Obama is sounding a little bitter.

"I reject any attacks on John McCain's military record. I was only 8 years old at the time. How does this affect my children?"

re: #25 jcm

Okay, I won't question your patriotism.
Next question.
Are you a commie?

Is the sky blue?

Senator Obama's remarks are starting to remind me of Groucho Marx lines, except that Senator O is not funny.

I hope Senator Obama says at some point that he's waxing roth.

UNQUESTIONABLE CHANGE!

I do have to question the patriotism of a man who's spiritual leader has said "God Damn America" as a part of a Sunday sermon, whose politcal mentor was a terrorist who wanted to overthrow the country & whose wife hasn't been proud of her country until the day you became a serious nominee. You will be known by the company you keep, Senator.

re: #26 NJDhockeyfan

Obama is sounding a little bitter.

He's clinging to his waffles and marxism.

His proposed expansion of faith-based initiatives? Probably just a vehicle to insinuate islam into our lives.

I Question the patriotism of Democratic party...

Where American and American politicians are working to push further Democracy in Middle east, Democratic candidate Jimmy Carter funded and helped Nepal's communist to gain power, which afterwards was applause by Nancy Pelosi .......

seems like Democrats are no more patriots, rather had moved to a higher stage of being the nationalists ( and i mean it in the worst sense ! )

I would never question baby jesus's patriotism..
we all know he loves Kenya..
so stop it!
//

re: #26 NJDhockeyfan

Obama is sounding a little bitter.

It's all the arugula.

Let's not forget,

It was Kerry's 1971 testimony SLANDERING his fellow soldiers that Swift Boaters objected to.

"...And if any reporter took the time to watch the actual ads put out by the Swift Vets, he would see that the ads primarily focused on John Kerry's 1971 congressional testimony that American troops tortured, raped, and murdered Vietnamese civilians "on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."As Vietnam veteran Mackubin Thomas Owens wrote in January of 2004:

If [John Kerry] believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service. Who can be proud of committing war crimes of the sort that Kerry recounted in his 1971 testimony? But if he is proud of his service today, perhaps it is because he always knew that his indictment in 1971 was a piece of political theater that he, an aspiring politician, exploited merely as a "good issue." If the latter is true, he should apologize to every veteran of that war for slandering them to advance his political fortunes.

Posted by John McCormack at [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

to the objective observer, he is obviously one who does not exactly have pride in the accomplishments of this country, thorughout it's history, at the forefront of his mind. you can't hang with the people he has, and admire the history of the country.

it's an oil & water situation.

re: #29 Catttt

Senator Obama's remarks are starting to remind me of Groucho Marx lines, except that Senator O is not funny.

I hope Senator Obama says at some point that he's waxing roth.

Karl "Groucho" Marx?

re: #19 rightwinger3

Moot point. How can he question a former POW, war hero's patriotism?

It's almost as he perceives them as equally patriotic.

Oh :) Charles hat updated the interface....

now if you click on user image, it shows up in a AJAX window...

re: #28 Ward Cleaver

Is the sky blue?

Nobody, but nobody is asking......

re: #19 rightwinger3

He has surrogates go out and poo-poo it, then lets the campaign condemn the statement, while saying, "I won't let anyone question my patriotism." He's a simpering hypocrite.

Apparently it turns out that Obama embodies the values of Patriotism...at least according to Obama.

Let's get this straight. This patriot believes in associating with terrorists who seek to overthrow the government (Ayers et al.). This patriot believed that FISA was a bad law (but went ahead and voted for it - what a principled stand). This patriot believes in gutting the military and cutting and running from Iraq where we're killing al Qaeda on what used to be a near daily basis until we pretty much decimated al Qaeda and forced it to retreat to the Pakistani border, Yemen and other failed states.

Yeah, I think there's good reasons to question his patriotism. And his logic and reasoning skills.

And his complete and utter lack of achievements and accomplishments other than hoodwinking a whole segment of the population that is enamored with hope and change but who have not the slightest idea of what he actually stands for, policy implications, or anything else for that matter.

re: #20 Killian Bundy

I pledge allegiance to my genitals

/'splain that one you socialist black separatist that hates America and dislikes whitey

Oooooo, that pic could haunt him. never saw that one before. nice find!

re: #36 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

he was too much in sun in Africa....

I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign

General Clark, the floor is yours.

Obama is Patriotic....
To his vision of America.

re: #31 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I do have to question the patriotism of a man who's spiritual leader has said "God Damn America" as a part of a Sunday sermon, whose politcal mentor was a terrorist who wanted to overthrow the country & whose wife hasn't been proud of her country until the day you became a serious nominee. You will be known by the company you keep, Senator.

This great constitutional republic of ours is the only place in the world where a scum-sucking POS like BHO can do all this shit and still be a serious candidate for POTUS.

re: #20 Killian Bundy

I pledge allegiance to my genitals

/'splain that one you socialist black separatist that hates America and dislikes whitey

Oh, Killian, you are too good - that is hysterical!

It is amusing, though, that a candidate feels he must remind people of his alleged patriotism.

I figure if you had it, people would know. It would be self-evident.

Obviously he realizes many of us are rightfully suspicious of him.

How much cheese does one need to go with all this whine?

re: #43 Dianna

He has surrogates go out and poo-poo it, then lets the campaign condemn the statement, while saying, "I won't let anyone question my patriotism." He's a simpering hypocrite.

Agreed. POS.

B-Ho is the new Bungholio:
"I am the great B-Ho! Are you threatening me? B-ho-ho-ho-holio!"

He doesn't eat fried food. He's a New Patriot.

re: #46 Vergeltung

Oooooo, that pic could haunt him. never saw that one before. nice find!

He's dying for a Kool.

Wesley Clark rides on the same boat as that POS Murtha, both need their a$$es beat severely, IMO!

re: #49 jcm

No he is Democrat ..... with distorted definition of democracy in his mind

re: #53 dahozho

perhaps a few container of laughing gas will do....

Let's see:

- Thinks flag pins are twee (an untranslateable British word which is a cross between oversentimental and tacky), and doesn't sing the words to the National Anthem or puts his hand on his heart during it.

Check.

- Has a wife who was alive during the moon landing, but only just this year became proud of her country.

Check.

- Has a pastor who says Godd*amn America during sermons.

Check.

- Consorts with anti-American terrorists.

Check.

- Isn't comfortable around guns, or more importantly, degrades people who use them.

Check.

Why, Mr. Obama -- what made you think anyone would question your patriotism? Patriotism is just another way of saying, show your love for your country, even once in a while, but you can't even do it once.

Since he prefers the plausible deniability of using hired jaws like ex-political general Clark to do his slandering for him, can we at least criticize BO's courage? Oh, that's right...he doesn't have any of that, either.

Besides, why do the dirty work when you have others doing it for you.

What IS patriotism today?

Hope, Change....Patriotism, Obama.

re: #57 Ward Cleaver

He's dying for a Kool.

But New Patriot's don't smoke, silly. ;P

McCain had a full military career, way beyond just 5.5 years as a POW. At least 8 high profile Democrats are on record trashing & minimizing McCain's career down to the POW experience, and saying those 5.5 years made McCain out-of-touch with "reality".

"Reality" was Jane Fonda and her ilk who came to Hanoi to personally tell out POWs they were criminals.

Our POWs heard anti-US propaganda every day in their prison cells, purer than PBS' brand, direct from the source!

Remember one POW recognized John Kerry's voice from having heard Kerry's Congressional testimony piped in over the VietCong loudspeakers, talking about US troops being worse than Jenjis Khan!

If he's so patriotic, then why did he sit in Reverend "god Damn America" Wright's pews for 20 years?

re: #1 Diamond Bullet

Wow - what's next, he actually starts saluting during the national anthem?

The Iranian national anthem

Deliver us from Feeble...

re: #9 CoCo

Well, he has dusted off his flag pin and started wearing it more. That has to mean he's sincere, right?

/

Does he have one with 57 stars?

Typical narcissistic reaction: anger when being questioned. We'll be seeing a lot more of this as the election nears. I'll wager the msm will walk on egg shells around him so as not to upset him, which means he'll get a free pass and McCain will have to answer for everything.

I come from a pretty moonbatty family and I can tell you first hand that most lefties think don't care for outward signs of patriotism such as flying the flag, pledging allegiance or getting choked up during the National Anthem.

To the Left, the most patriotic thing an American can do is to work towards changing America into something which it has never been before.

Working to create a new and different America is their idea of patriotism, because the America that they love exists only in an imagined future, and not in our history.

re: #31 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Times a thousand dings up.

There's a proper name for people who hate our nation, they're called enemies. Except for those persons who are citizens of our republic, they are called traitors.

BTW, is BHO really a citizen?

He'd be a little more convincing if he knew how many states we have.

(Somebody please tell me this was a joke.)

"And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine,” he said."

Okay, you know what? Just say this, then, Senator Obama:

"I love the United States America unreservedly. I love its past, present and future unquestionably. I will protect our country and its people without hesitation. I think our country is the best country in the world, and I don't care who knows it."

That would be a START.

re: #72 ladycatnip

Typical narcissistic reaction: anger when being questioned. We'll be seeing a lot more of this as the election nears. I'll wager the msm will walk on egg shells around him so as not to upset him, which means he'll get a free pass and McCain will have to answer for everything.

It's even worse than that. It's a form of totalitarianism. You must not question The Leader.

re: #73 Ringo the Gringo

I come from a pretty moonbatty family and I can tell you first hand that most lefties think don't care for outward signs of patriotism such as flying the flag, pledging allegiance or getting choked up during the National Anthem.
To the Left, the most patriotic thing an American can do is to work towards changing America into something which it has never been before.
Working to create a new and different America is their idea of patriotism, because the America that they love exists only in an imagined future, and not in our history.

I think you are on to something there. however, to the objective mind, when compared to the rest of the world in the history of mankind, there is so much to admire about what the US has achieved with our constitutional republic in these 200-some-odd years.

truly...

NRA plans $40M fall blitz targeting Obama

The National Rifle Association plans to spend about $40 million on this year’s campaign, with $15 million of that devoted to portraying Barack Obama as a threat to the Second Amendment rights upheld last week by the Supreme Court.

“Our members understand that if Barack Obama is elected president, and he has support in the Senate to confirm anti-gun Supreme Court nominees, [the District of Columbia v. Heller decision] could be taken away from us in the future,” Chris Cox, head of the NRA’s political arm, told Politico.

Just in case you're still thinking of sitting out this election.

/Obama is gun Satan, he'd confiscate them all if he had the opportunity

Progressive Patriotism means never having to wear a flag Pin

There are something like four videos up on Breitbart.tv showing people attacking McCain's war record, one way or another!

Jim Webb saying McCain should "calm down" on using his military record, Rand Beers saying McCain's experience as a POW "sadly limits" his ability as a wartime leader, and more!

Tell me how Obama's not attacking McCain's patriotism? His record? His sacrifice?

That simpering hypocrite is making me positively eager to vote for McCain!

I dunno,

carelessness = not wearing flag pin

not wearing flag pin = right after 9/11, he wanted to distinguish himself, a 'true' patriot, from those 'other' patiriots

Who questioned his patriotism again?

re: #82 Shug

Progressive Patriotism means never having to wear a flag Pin

I wonder if they will have a fundraiser selling US flags with a red line through them.

Other "Patriots" in History:
Lenin
Tojo
Stalin
Hitler
Musolini
I don't question Obama's patriotism. I question the (mis)direction he would try to take my country. He's a SOCIALIST.

NObama!

In a clear sign the patriotism issue is a worry for the campaign, Obama said in a speech at the Harry Truman presidential library in Missouri that he would not sit back and watch his love of country questioned by political rivals.

Why's everybody always pickin' on me?

re: #78 vbspurs

Okay, you know what? Just say this, then, Senator Obama:

"I love the United States America unreservedly. I love its past, present and future unquestionably. I will protect our country and its people without hesitation. I think our country is the best country in the world, and I don't care who knows it."

That would be a START.

* * *
Naw, naw naw! Taqqiya is still taqiyya. If he said these things without meaning them, it would still be just be to appeal to "the center" and people who are ASLEEP while he just repeats standard boiler plate liberal talking points.

Dissent is patriotic, bla bla bla. We should be post-patriotic, post-USA, more global, more international, more community-organized as Che & Fidel showed us.

Harry Truman said The Buck Stops here

BHO says, the Bus stops here

The man's hubris knows no bounds. To stand there and arrogantly claim that his patriotism is beyond reproach, given all the things outlined previously in this thread - Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, even his own wife Michelle - is the height of arrogance.

He believes his charm and charisma are still going to carry the day and that the mindless meme of HOPECHANGEWAFFLES will numb peoples' minds to the truth. His day of reckoning is near at hand.

Democrat strategists believe that John Kerry made a big mistake by not responding more strongly to the Swift Boat allegations, so the Obama campaign issues these pro forma, pugnacious, empty statements to look tough.

They have to blame something. That doesn't mean they're right.

There was no response Kerry could have given that would have rationalized away his lying about American war crimes in front of the US Congress.

"Reporting for Duty" Kerry slandered American soldiers for his own benefit, then had the audacity to make his military service a part of his Presidential campaign. Responding more forcefully to the "Swift Boat" veterans would only have drawn more attention to the allegations. IMO, tactically, Kerry did the right thing by not responding forcefully to the allegations.

I think Obama is probably better off NOT directly responding to allegations that he's not patriotic, but I certainly don't mind seeing him make a fool of himself.

re: #81 Killian Bundy

NRA plans $40M fall blitz targeting Obama

Just in case you're still thinking of sitting out this election.

/Obama is gun Satan, he'd confiscate them all if he had the opportunity

And with a Supreme Court justice he nominates, he could have that opportunity.

re: #84 buzzsawmonkey

"And I will throw them under the bus if they are caught."

This last being a foregone conclusion.

I wonder if his surrogates truly know his duplicitous nature by now OR (more troublingly), if they are in collusion with him, knowing what will happen, but that when he's elected to the Presidency he'll reinstate them as associates?

I have a strong suspicion it's the latter, and that if he's elected, we'll yet see a public hug between he and all his "under the bus" denunciations, starting with Reverend Wright. You watch.

doesn't sing the words to the National Anthem or puts his hand on his heart during it

Me neither. It's not like I have something to prove. Give him a pass on that.

re: #83 Dianna

There are something like four videos up on Breitbart.tv showing people attacking McCain's war record, one way or another!

Jim Webb saying McCain should "calm down" on using his military record, Rand Beers saying McCain's experience as a POW "sadly limits" his ability as a wartime leader, and more!

Tell me how Obama's not attacking McCain's patriotism? His record? His sacrifice?

That simpering hypocrite is making me positively eager to vote for McCain!

* * *
It is an organized "MILITARY" campaign.

Democrats and their "generals" are "fighting" McCain, it's WAR to them.

Tee hee hee. War of words & slander, without preconditions. But wannabe Commander in Chief Obama's actually too chicken to actually meet with McCain to debate in public.

This is just a transparent attempt to silence dissent, which, even according to him, is the highest form of patriotism.

re: #88 chinesearithmetic

In a clear sign the patriotism issue is a worry for the campaign, Obama said in a speech at the Harry Truman presidential library in Missouri that he would not sit back and watch his love of country questioned by political rivals.

Why's everybody always pickin' on me?

Let me eat my waffle! Waaah, waaah, I answered all of eight questions at a press conference! That's not the (insert latest person under the bus) I knew! Etc. Etc.

Gets old very quickly for those of us paying attention, doesn't it?

re: #86 debutaunt

I wonder if they will have a fundraiser selling US flags with a red line through them.

* * *
That's a flag they'll wear (& fly) proudly, next to the Cuban one in their campaign offices.

Newsflash for Obama: You associate with Bill Ayers, attend an America-hating church for 20 years, and form your campaign platform around inevitable defeat in Iraq and people are gonna get a certain "impression" regarding your feelings toward your country...just sayin'.

re: #95 chinesearithmetic

doesn't sing the words to the National Anthem or puts his hand on his heart during it

Me neither. It's not like I have something to prove. Give him a pass on that.

You're not running for President.
Does Obama even know the words?

Seriously, us Socialists know what we're talking about, so questions are out of the questions.

What, who are you laughing at, you Zionist running dog, you!

Its the 'New Patriotism'.
The kind that allows you to hate your country and promote its downfall.

Patriotic / Patriotism: strong feelings of love and devotion to one's country and, if necessary, one will fight to defend it.

Obama's the guy you vote for if you think America sucks.

re: #89 alegrias

Dissent is patriotic, bla bla bla. We should be post-patriotic, post-USA, more global, more international, more community-organized as Che & Fidel showed us.

There's a reason he was seen toting around Fareed Zakaria's "Post-American World".

He thinks the sooner we enter that phase of history, the better.

re: #100 Pyrocles

Newsflash for Obama: You associate with Bill Ayers, attend an America-hating church for 20 years, and form your campaign platform around inevitable defeat in Iraq and people are gonna get a certain "impression" regarding your feelings toward your country...just sayin'.

You're just bitter!
/

“I will never question the stupidity of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine,” he said.

re: #73 Ringo the Gringo

I come from a pretty moonbatty family and I can tell you first hand that most lefties think don't care for outward signs of patriotism such as flying the flag, pledging allegiance or getting choked up during the National Anthem.

To the Left, the most patriotic thing an American can do is to work towards changing America into something which it has never been before.

Working to create a new and different America is their idea of patriotism, because the America that they love exists only in an imagined future, and not in our history.

The lover doth polish the face of his betrothed.
Hoping to fashion a mirror of his desire,
he produces a skull.

re: #96 alegrias

It's a proxy war.

This is low and despicable.

re: #76 transient

He'd be a little more convincing if he knew how many states we have.

(Somebody please tell me this was a joke.)

Obama is a joke. There, feel better?

re: #95 chinesearithmetic

Are you running for POTUS? Are you asking to be the leader of the United States and its representative to the World?

If you are then I suggest you sing the words to the National Anthem, take your hat off, and put your hand over your heart.

Obama: Max Cleland, Part Deux

Harry Truman was a haberdasher. Obama is an empty suit.

“I will never question the duplicity of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine,” he said.

re: #110 wolfie

The lover doth polish the face of his betrothed.
Hoping to fashion a mirror of his desire,
he produces a skull.

Great quote, who is the author?

re: #101 ploome hineni

Absolutely right.

I'm glad McCain's campaign is paying attention.

re: #99 alegrias

* * *
That's a flag they'll wear (& fly) proudly, next to the Cuban one in their campaign offices.

Right next to the Che poster.

re: #108 buzzsawmonkey

I speculated yesterday about the existence of a "bus-boomerang" rehabilitation procedure.

In the meantime, one gets the feeling that Obama operatives are recruited in a fashion similar to the openings of the episodes of the old Mission Impossible series (though where they find photo booths nowadays I have no idea): "Good morning, Mr. Phelps. Welcome to Team Obama, the leader for Hope and Change. Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to slag the opposing candidate with scurrilous rumors regarding his mental stability, composure, conduct, and honor. As usual, if you are caught, Team Obama will deny all connection with you. Your complimentary copy of Ethics for Beginners will self-destruct in five seconds."

*applause*

But even rogue associates are working for the greater good of their country. Obama rogue associates, who will be thrown under the bus if caught, are working for their country's demise.

And they're proud of it.

“I will never question the change and hope- of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine,” he said.

re: #77 taxfreekiller

How many Officers that you knew that were worth a shit recomended themself for awards?

re: #118 HugoChavez

Great quote, who is the author?

You're GAY for anonymous.

re: #119 Dianna

Absolutely right.

I'm glad McCain's campaign is paying attention.

Now if they could get the candidate off xanax.

re: #93 Kosh's Shadow

Thank God the NRA is not stupid.

Obama's allegiance.

Why does he have both hands holding his nuts?

I really don't think that Obama understands that our problem with him runs so much deeper than his patriotism. Obama wants us to lose in Iraq and has not acknowledged the gains made in the surge. Obama wants to treat our military as a gang worthy of no respect and may even treat some as war criminals. Obama wants to talk to our enemies without precondition. Obama wants to tax companies for making money rather than encourage them to succeed and create more wealth and stability for our country. Obama has associated with some of the most extreme elements in our country. Does Obama think that we are so stupid to think that putting your hand over your heart during the pledge of allegiance and wearing a flag pin are the only elements indicative of patriotism?

I think Obama truly thinks he's a patriot. But I would say that his stance on the issues puts that into question.

re: #115 Onslow

I'm wondering what's in the pockets of the empty suit.

re: #124 Peacekeeper

I'm a civilized dictator, I'll have you know. Even Mugabe is a connoisseur of the most delicate human hearts.

“I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear Wesley Clarke question mine,” he said.

re: #126 kansas

Now if they could get the candidate off xanax.

God, yes. What IS he doing? He could win this in a walk given his war record alone -- and he refuses to fight dirty because "McCains don't duck".

You have to have the stomach to be President, and that means attack and defend in equal measures.

re: #50 rightwinger3

At least you understand that we are a constitutional republic.

So many on the left do not have a clue that we are not a "democratic" society

On the Sean Hannity show on the radio a guest talker was asking Obama supporters to call and tell him why they supported him and what accomplishments he had. One man called in, said that he was a black man and that he was voting for Obama because he was going to get revenge for all black people in America.

That is just downright scary!

re: #67 alegrias

McCain had a full military career, way beyond just 5.5 years as a POW. At least 8 high profile Democrats are on record trashing & minimizing McCain's career down to the POW experience, and saying those 5.5 years made McCain out-of-touch with "reality".

"Reality" was Jane Fonda and her ilk who came to Hanoi to personally tell out POWs they were criminals.

Our POWs heard anti-US propaganda every day in their prison cells, purer than PBS' brand, direct from the source!

Remember one POW recognized John Kerry's voice from having heard Kerry's Congressional testimony piped in over the VietCong loudspeakers, talking about US troops being worse than Jenjis Khan!

BHO would have probably been voicing vocal support for Jane Fonda. Democrats = willing to give up common sense for any smooth talking, muslim leaning, far left leaning, black leader that comes along. While they trash Michael Steele. It is the superficialness of his supporters that is astounding.

Not a bad strategy, actually, the ol' "best defense is a good offense" trick: Decide what you're weak on and your opponent has a strength -- patriotism, military service, whatever. Loudly declare that you will not question the topic and you "denounce all such negative campaigning," therefore neutralizing the issue as something he can use against you.

John Kerry actually wants John McCain to denounce Col. Bud Day--the man who saved McCain's life after the VietCong tossed nearly dead McCain into Bud Day's prison cell.

Col Bud Day was one of the officers offended by Kerry's 1971 Congressional Testimony slandering US troops in Vietnam, who helped remind voters in 2004 what Kerry said about his fellow troops in 1971.

Can you imagine asking someone to throw their fellow POW & human savior under the bus?

Kerry is a dishonorable man, and I hope McCain's daughter Meghan regrets having voted for this scum bag in 2004 who now torments her father John McCain.

The Empty Suit needs questioning, A LOT OF QUESTIONING. I say we never let up for one dogged minute from now until November or BEYOND if need be, on this lying, conniving SOB!

Still, questioning Obama's patriotism is beyond the pale. I'm sure he is quite loyal to the Islamist Kenyan Odinga regime.

Oooh, "beyond the pale". Extra points for unintentional racial insensitivity!

re: #130 Dianna

I'm thinking $oro$ money.

Typical Rethuglican jingoism! -Any college professor

re: #78 vbspurs

Okay, you know what? Just say this, then, Senator Obama:

"I love the United States America unreservedly. I love its past, present and future unquestionably. I will protect our country and its people without hesitation. I think our country is the best country in the world, and I don't care who knows it."

That would be a START.

re: #19 rightwinger3

Moot point. How can he question a former POW, war hero's patriotism?

Well, you know. It just doesnt qualify him to be president. neither does being in the senate, more than, um 4 years. HOWEVER, organizing unions in Chicago was a really tough assignment. He could have been out making millions of dollars as a personal injury lawyer. He could have been the black silky pony.

re: #108 buzzsawmonkey

(though where they find photo booths nowadays I have no idea)

There's a list in here if I recall:
[Link: www.wwnorton.com...]

re: #134 HippieforLife

12% of the population getting revenge? They will punish themselves.

re: #129 Dahveed
I think Obama truly thinks he's a patriot. But I would say that his stance on the issues puts that into question.

Of course Obama thinks he's a patriot (despite evidence to the contrary). I'm sure Jimmy Carter is absolutely convinced he's a patriot too.

I'd say Obamas opinions on what's right for America's defense, economy, and pride are simply wrong.

re: #46 Vergeltung

Oooooo, that pic could haunt him. never saw that one before. nice find!

That would make a great billboard ad for McCain....
That pic....honoring his dic&....
And McCain photo of landing on American soil after 4+ years as a POW!

re: #2 turn

Arrogant, isn't he?

and why wouldn't he be insufferably arrogant?

He was made President of Harvard Law Review with no publishing history and no particular achievements, jumping over the heads of over a dozen others who deserved the honor.

He has been honored as the second Coming of Dem Politicians, also picked over a dozen others more qualified, with no legislative accomplishments that would recommend him. He is not humble enough to recognize that the only reason he was anointed appointed was to draw in an uncritical demographic which did not reliably vote - just to solidify his party's need of a five or six point dependable margin for victory.

In fact, he was anointed appointed specifically because he has absolutely no record of accomplishments, as such a record might be analyzed or criticized.

And speaking of arrogant, his wife joins him to ice the cake in this regard. Anyone who doubts this should read the thesis which awarded her a degree at one of the nation's top three Ivy League Colleges. It's an academic joke. Not enough for Michelle to realize she has no business being in the position of power she has achieved.

re: #101 ploome hineni

They would play the Manchurian Candidate card but are afraid that that would cause them to loose the moonbat vote... I mean if they thought that deep down he's a brainwashed commie ... Think of the Hanoi Hilton as satelite campus of Berkely...

Obama accused Hillary Clinton of saying anything to get elected. But that is just what Obama does. He has projected his MO onto Hillary when his radio ad announcer said "Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected" and when Obama said the same thing. As the man who knows Obama best said, Obama is a politician, and he will say and do what a politician says and does, in order to get elected.

But if Obama actually disagreed with his mentor of 20 years, Rev. Jeremiah "God damn America!" Wright, why has he waited 20 years to say that he disagrees? Why has he waited 20 years to disagree with his mentor's anti-Americanism? Why has he waited 20 years to assert that he is patriotic?

"How dare you ask any question about my patriotism" is not an analytically sensible answer, it is an attempt at intimidation. What is he afraid of? Why is he ducking the question? Why is he seeking to intimidate reporters into not asking the questions that are on people's minds?

re: #142 Pyrocles

Typical Rethuglican jingoism! -Any college professor

Yes! But there are 200,000 of them, and 304 million other Americans. Why is he concerned about the 200,000 and not what the majority think?

Oh, I'm sorry, that's right I forgot. Because he's a Liberal.

re: #111 Dianna

It's a proxy war.

This is low and despicable.

* * *
Dems are willing to "fight" this kind of war with everything they've got, sticks & stones, words, Soros' zillions, "global" opinion surveys, MSM. It's Total War against McCain!

The carrots & kind words they reserve for America's worst enemies.

re: #141 Onslow

Possibly. But I am spitting mad about this manure being shoveled by various proxies.

Spitting mad.

re: #132 Peacekeeper

“I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear Wesley Clarke question mine,” he said.

ok. we get the idea.

re: #29 Catttt

Senator Obama's remarks are starting to remind me of Groucho Marx lines

"These are my principles! If you don't like them, I have others."

re: #118 HugoChavez

Great quote, who is the author?

Believe it or not, John Updike....from an early sixties collection of his poetry. (Either The Carpentered Hen or Telephone Poles, but I don't remember which.)

"Obama said in a speech at the Harry Truman presidential library in Missouri that he would not sit back and watch his love of country questioned by political rivals."

Missouri, is it? Then SHOW ME, OBAMA. SHOW ME.

Because I do not believe that you are good for this country.

re: #155 Occasional Reader

spew

“I will never question this campaign by idly when I will not hear the others patriotism question mine stand,” he said.

Is that clear?

Barack X Obama and McCain were both out of the country from 67-71.

McCain was in prison in Hanoi. Barack X was in a mosque in Singapore studying the Koran.

re: #148 runrabbitrun

Hey, I was going to say the same thing but I couldn't type it all fast enough to get #2.

/

Seriously, some very good points I didn't know about. Then again I bet there are few others that know this too.

re: #154 Vergeltung

You do?

Below are a few lines from Obama's books; In his words!

These statements indicate conflicts that most children never have to face. This is a man with issues that bear on his personality, his decisions and his world view.

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspec t that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

But the most telling is from his book:

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

re: #155 Occasional Reader

"These are my principles! If you don't like them, I have others."

"I wouldn't like any country which would have me as President."

re: #147 reloadingisnotahobby

That would make a great billboard ad for McCain....
That pic....honoring his dic&....
And McCain photo of landing on American soil after 4+ years as a POW!

yeah, nice contrast!

Obama is a patriot and Marx was a capitalist. Both of them "cooked the books" to appear correct. It takes a lot of cooking to to come up with the witch's brew that Obama has concocted as well as a total idiot to swallow a spoonful.

Iran orders paper director's arrest for 'insulting' president

TEHRAN (AFP) — Iran's judiciary on Tuesday ordered the arrest of the director of a leading reformist newspaper over an article attacking President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his remarks on the Shiites' "hidden imam."

Mohammad Javad Haghshenas, director of Etemad Melli newspaper, has been issued with an order for arrest and investigation on charges of spreading lies and publishing "an insulting piece", a spokesman for Tehran public and revolutionary courts told the ISNA student agency.

The spokesman said the "insulting" article was written by mid-ranking cleric Rasoul Montajab-Nia in Tuesday's edition of Etemad Melli (National Confidence) -- the newspaper of a reformist party with the same name.

In the article, Montajab-Nia listed several comments attributed to Ahmadinejad on the twelfth imam, known as the Mahdi, who Shiites believe disappeared more than a thousand years ago and will return one day to usher in a new era of peace and harmony.

"The president and his advisors are frequently heard to say that this government is managed by the imam," wrote Montajab-Nia who is also a senior member of the Etemad Melli party.

"Such rumours weaken people's beliefs and lead to ridicule by the enemies of Islam and Shiism," he said.

"If these are true, what do you mean by saying such unreal things? Do you think such remarks can justify the government's mismanagement in the face of people's discontent and complaints about inflation?" he asked.

Thing is, BO needs to be reminded that he's now in a job interview, and that the people of the USA are interviewing him for the job of President, which is theirs to give, and which is not his by right.

Thus it is not up to him to determine which questions can be asked and which are out of bounds.
If your prospective employer - thats the American people - wants to know - you better answer! Anything and everything!

re: #133 vbspurs

God, yes. What IS he doing? He could win this in a walk given his war record alone -- and he refuses to fight dirty because "McCains don't duck".

You have to have the stomach to be President, and that means attack and defend in equal measures.

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Maybe you've missed the double standard. The media only likes "attack" in Democrats. If a Republican responds in anger or even "righteous" indignation, they're branded as crazy warmongers who have TOO MUCH military experience.

They've lined McCain's path with IEDs. McCain has to be "loveable" to compete with Rockin' Walks On Water.

..pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

re: #94 vbspurs

This last being a foregone conclusion.

I wonder if his surrogates truly know his duplicitous nature by now OR (more troubling), if they are in collusion with him, knowing what will happen, but that when he's elected to the Presidency he'll reinstate them as associates?

I have a strong suspicion it's the latter, and that if he's elected, we'll yet see a public hug between he and all his "under the bus" denunciations, starting with Reverend Wright. You watch.

Wright giving the blessing at the inauguration?
very troubling.

he has spent a lot of time w/ really bad anti-american people who would destroy our country.
bill ayers comes to mind. this asshole has bombed our country, says he wishes he could have done more. i can't forget the photo of that fcking terrorist stomping on our flag.
would a patriotic person be able to suffer the presence of such a bum as bill ayers for so many yrs, as a friend and political cohort?
b.o. is not a patriotic american.
his empty words will convince no one. people see patriotism in actions and behavior.

Hero or Zero.
McCain 08.

re: #164 MeThink

I'm glad someone read these books for me! Thanks. Of course, I'll have to check it out--but wow wow wow--and will those quotes make the NYT? Has anyone noticed that Mo Dowd has changed her style now? No more hateful rhetoric (got it in the jaw from the ombudsman, I hear); no more "Obambi"--no everything's now cool.

re: #164 MeThink

the attributes of Martin [okay] and Malcolm [racist, crypto-fascist weirdo], DuBois [communist] and Mandela [socialist]

"'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

He doesn't accept his blackness. He rejects his whiteness.

I can't imagine the mental gymnastics a biracial child has to go through, in his or her life. I wonder how Derek Jeter does it...

I am glad to see Obama provide oxygen to an issue that had lost its air. Its like the person who insists that he didn't beat his wife. The more he says it, the more you start to question it.

OT, mostly: This just arrived in my inbox.

Grandmas -- Gotta Love 'Em!

Here's a quote from a government employee who witnessed a recent interaction between an elderly woman and an antiwar protester in a Metro station in DC:

"There were protesters on the train platform handing out pamphlets on the evils of America. I politely declined to take one.

"An elderly woman was behind me getting off the escalator and a young (20-ish) female protester offered her a pamphlet, which she politely declined.

"The young protester put her hand on the old woman's shoulder as a gesture of friendship and in a very soft voice said, 'Lady, don't you care about the children of Iraq?'

"The old woman looked up at her and said, 'Honey, my father died in France during World War II, I lost my husband in Korea, and a son in Vietnam. All three died so you could have the right to stand here and bad mouth our country. If you touch me again I'll stick this umbrella up your ass and open it.'"

re: #161 turn

Hey, I was going to say the same thing but I couldn't type it all fast enough to get #2.

well, why do you think I'm always #161?

=)

worse, I use the helicopter style of typing: hover over the keyboard with one finger and land on it. Many typos & previews, too.

I'm always a day late & a dollar short alongside the very quick wits of the lizards... but I keep trying...

Heh, I'll do more than question his patriotism, I flat out say that he is an unpatriotic leftist b*astard who is not proud to be an American
The man's entire biography is an exercise in leftist pathology that is hell-bent on acquiring power at any cost, and wielding it with an iron fist. He will be far worse that Jimmy Carter, especially now as so many more public school graduates will march lockstep with his policies, since that is all they have been taught throughout their pathetic, useless, lives.

re: #134 HippieforLife
I heard that call....It was Jesse(not yo daddy) Jackson!
He wants his 40 acres and a mule!
Jackson has never had a bloodblister from working!
He allready has the mule!The one in his mirror!

I really believe that since Obama is basically an empty suit with only the "hope and change" message, his poll numbers surely can't get any higher than they are now. Either you have drank the cool aid or don't vote based on platitudes. With that said, every month that goes by hopefully people will start to go cold turkey on the cool aid.

re: #173 nyc redneck

Most of Obama's associates (Ayers etc) would have would have been more than happy to trade places with McCain's NVA inquisitors.

re: #31 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I do have to question the patriotism of a man who's spiritual leader has said "God Damn America" as a part of a Sunday sermon, whose politcal mentor was a terrorist who wanted to overthrow the country & whose wife hasn't been proud of her country until the day you became a serious nominee. You will be known by the company you keep, Senator.

That is so unfair.

By holding him accountable for his past actions, words, votes, and associations, you're ruining this transcendent, collective projection experience for everyone.

re: #177 vbspurs

I wonder how Derek Jeter does it...

uh, with millions of dollars and hot chicks? ;)

re: #83 Dianna

There are something like four videos up on Breitbart.tv showing people attacking McCain's war record, one way or another!

Jim Webb saying McCain should "calm down" on using his military record, Rand Beers saying McCain's experience as a POW "sadly limits" his ability as a wartime leader, and more!

Tell me how Obama's not attacking McCain's patriotism? His record? His sacrifice?

That simpering hypocrite is making me positively eager to vote for McCain!

But, but, those are not the wolves I know.

A woman went to a WalMart service counter and told the clerk she wanted a refund for the toaster she bought because it won't work. The clerk told her that he can't give her a refund because she bought it on special.

Suddenly, the woman threw her arms up in the air and started screaming,

'PINCH MY NIPPLES, PINCH MY NIPPLES, PINCH MY NIPPLES!'

The befuddled clerk ran away to get the store manager In front of a growing crowd of customers.

The manager comes to the woman and asks,'Ma'am what's wrong?'

She explains the problem with the toaster, and he also tells her that he can't give her a refund because she bought it on special.

Once again, the woman throws her arms up in the air and screams,

'PINCH MY NIPPLES, PINCH MY NIPPLES, PINCH MY NIPPLES!'

Which begins to draw an even bigger crowd!

In shock, the store manager pleads,

'Ma'am, why are you saying that ?'

In a huff, the woman says,


'BECAUSE, I LIKE TO HAVE MY NIPPLES PINCHED WHEN I'M BEING SCREWED!'

The crowd broke into applause and her money was quickly refunded!

re: #172 Eowyn2

Wright giving the blessing at the inauguration?
very troubling.

It had crossed my mind, yes.

And I also think he might take South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission as his Presidential template...

OT, but I'm looking at the Comcast banner ad over on Breitbart.tv.

What is that object with little legs chasing the phone?!

re: #173 nyc redneck

bill ayers comes to mind. this asshole has bombed our country, says he wishes he could have done more. i can't forget the photo of that fcking terrorist stomping on our flag.
would a patriotic person be able to suffer the presence of such a bum as bill ayers for so many yrs, as a friend and political cohort?
b.o. is not a patriotic american.

Bill Ayers: Underachieving Unibomber.

re: #189 JimmyTheClaw

The MSM just gets tingles up their legs.

re: #180 runrabbitrun

You'll find me at the dead end of way too many threads here too. I mainly read here to get wise feedback from all the other lizards. I'm really lazy, not much original thinking on my part but I'm a quick learner.

re: #190 vbspurs
Oh I think you can bank on that to happen!

re: #181 sojerofgod

Heh, I'll do more than question his patriotism, I flat out say that he is an unpatriotic leftist b*astard who is not proud to be an American
The man's entire biography is an exercise in leftist pathology that is hell-bent on acquiring power at any cost, and wielding it with an iron fist. He will be far worse that Jimmy Carter, especially now as so many more public school graduates will march lockstep with his policies, since that is all they have been taught throughout their pathetic, useless, lives.

nice! well said. Despite the smoke screen, Osama is way more secular than Jimmy was, further cranking up the danger meter.

re: #37 alegrias

I'd been back just over a year and half when Kerry went off on all of us. I was ashamed of my service, for although I'd witnessed some prisoner abuse, I also rebuked the officer who was responsible for it. In 1969 we were fighting more for each other and less for our country than I'd like to admit.

Was Kerry truthful and forthright? No. Was the speech he used treasonous? Perhaps. Did he receive Purple Hearts because he deserved them? I don't think so. I could speak to the manner in which Marines and Sailors received medical care including forms necessary in order to receive a Purple Heart, and find that the entire manner in which he was awarded at least two of them was not right.

The Swift Boat vets had valid points, spoke the truth, and were assailed for it. Kerry threatened legal action, and it was an empty threat.

I'm better prepared this election cycle. I may personally disagree with many of McCain's perspectives, but I won't vote for Obama. Period.

What has Obama ever done that demonstrates the existence of his "patriotism"?

re: #190 vbspurs

It had crossed my mind, yes.

And I also think he might take South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission as his Presidential template...

I wonder if I can get reparations from Ireland and Norway. Descended from serfs and thralls.

re: #186 FlakMusic

That is so unfair.

By holding him accountable for his past actions, words, votes, and associations, you're ruining this transcendent, collective projection experience for everyone.

Oh, very well done!

re: #190 vbspurs

Yes. An Obama victory means war crimes trials for key Bush admin officials. This would be a disaster for the republic.

re: #195 Typicalwhitey

Oh I think you can bank on that to happen!

Yes...if elected, he'll say that being the first black president gives him unparalled authority to finally allow America to talk about race, frankly.

And as we know, whenever disaffacted minorities (which doesn't include all of them, thankfully) want to talk about race, it's a code word for "let's beat up on whitey".

re: #174 faraway

Whe do start printing the bumper stickers?

re: #198 Alouette

What has Obama ever done that demonstrates the existence of his "patriotism"?

Bingo! upding...upding

re: #185 gymnast

Most of Obama's associates (Ayers etc) would have would have been more than happy to trade places with McCain's NVA inquisitors.

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Actually, many of them went to North Vietnam and helped the VietCong further torture & abuse our POWs--trying to demoralize them & cause them pain.

Several POWs refused to meet with visiting American leftists and were beaten by the VietCong because those POWs would not be used in anti-American propaganda.

LOOK IT UP.

re: #177 vbspurs

He doesn't accept his blackness. He rejects his whiteness.

I can't imagine the mental gymnastics a biracial child has to go through, in his or her life. I wonder how Derek Jeter does it...

Since my family is full of them, I can tell you: There's no mental gymnastics if they know they have a family that absolutely loves them for who they are, and they are raised from birth with a strong sense of self that comes from pride in their mixed heritage and in their own uniqueness as individuals. They just don't let other people stick them in racial boxes, and ignore the people who do.

Obama, raised with no pride for his white blood and taught that pride comes from some prescribed racial identity, instead spent his life trying to ingratiate himself to those who would pigeon-hole him as black. We see how well it worked out for him.

re: #198 Alouette

What has Obama ever done that demonstrates the existence of his "patriotism"?

Community organizing. Or something like that.

(I recall that either Obama himself, or one of his spokesmen, made the hilarious claim that his being a Senator counts for "patriotism" points. Yeah, a real sacrifice, that.)

Interested in what Obama's tax policies will bring to the rest of the nation? Here's a sample from his pals in Chicago:

The sales tax is now 10.25%!

That's the highest sales tax in the country

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

It's harder for the Leftist to feel patriotism because, rather than comparing America to other countries and systems of government around the world, the Leftist compares America to his own Utopian vision of a perfect society....and America of course always falls short of the vision, leaving the Leftist in a constant state of disappointment.

On the other hand, the conservative and the moderate, contrasting America with other nations and regimes across the globe, will always feel grateful for this country and thus patriotism will come naturally.

re: #201 joncelli

Yes. An Obama victory means war crimes trials for key Bush admin officials. This would be a disaster for the republic.

but it would make us look better to the rest of the world

/

re: #198 Alouette

What has Obama ever done that demonstrates the existence of his "patriotism"?

he put the flag lapel pin back on.
that is all he has ever done.

Rev. Wright brought him to Jesus, so who brought Obama to Uncle Sam?

He damn well sit by while I or other fellow Americans question his patriotism! He will also sit idly by while we question him about any damn thing we want while he is trying to become the President of these United States! Arrogant bastard.

re: #197 Cap'n DOC

I'd been back just over a year and half when Kerry went off on all of us. I was ashamed of my service, for although I'd witnessed some prisoner abuse, I also rebuked the officer who was responsible for it. In 1969 we were fighting more for each other and less for our country than I'd like to admit.

Was Kerry truthful and forthright? No. Was the speech he used treasonous? Perhaps. Did he receive Purple Hearts because he deserved them? I don't think so. I could speak to the manner in which Marines and Sailors received medical care including forms necessary in order to receive a Purple Heart, and find that the entire manner in which he was awarded at least two of them was not right.

The Swift Boat vets had valid points, spoke the truth, and were assailed for it. Kerry threatened legal action, and it was an empty threat.

I'm better prepared this election cycle. I may personally disagree with many of McCain's perspectives, but I won't vote for Obama. Period.

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Thank you for your service, and for dealing with its aftermath. Actually, Col Bud Day WAS sued by Kerry, and I sent money to the Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation so they could pay their legal expenses defending themselves. [Link: www.vvlf.com...] or [Link: www.vvlf.org...]

Thanks for reminding me there was ANOTHER reason Kerry wants McCain to repudiate Col. Bud Day, who saved McCain's life in POW camp.

"that pin"

You SOB

re: #177 vbspurs

He doesn't accept his blackness. He rejects his whiteness.

I can't imagine the mental gymnastics a biracial child has to go through, in his or her life. I wonder how Derek Jeter does it...

My sister-in-law is half black and half English and doesn't go through mental gymnastics. The reason? She doesn't hate blacks.... or whites, and neither did her parents. She loves African music and Shakespeare and is delighted to have a heritage that encompasses both.
But then, she says she'd probably like that stuff even if her daddy had been Chinese! She doesn't define herself by race.

I suspect Jeter is more like my SIL than like Obama.

What has Obama ever done that demonstrates the existence of his "patriotism"?

Barack X learned the Muslim Call to Prayer in perfect Arabic. I wonder if he knows the words to the Pledge and the National Anthem? I learned during the ages 6-10.

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

Tiger Woods doesn't seem to be Thai'd up in knots.

And, on that same topic, this seems to be the perfect time for a Jessica Alba link.

Well, it's always a perfect time. But this is a more perfect time. (If the Framers can use it, so can I.)

re: #197 Cap'n DOC

I've always believed the vet's recollections about Kerry, now the libs label speaking the truth about a candidate "swift boating". There is so much pent up anger on the left for loosing the last two elections, if we could only find a way to convert it to usable energy our oil problems would disappear.

re: #207 Lizard by the Bay

Since my family is full of them, I can tell you: There's no mental gymnastics if they know they have a family that absolutely loves them for who they are, and they are raised from birth with a strong sense of self that comes from pride in their mixed heritage and in their own uniqueness as individuals. They just don't let other people stick them in racial boxes, and ignore the people who do.

You have a very blessed family!

Obama, raised with no pride for his white blood and taught that pride comes from some prescribed racial identity, instead spent his life trying to ingratiate himself to those who would pigeon-hole him as black. We see how well it worked out for him.

And you hit the nail on the head.

However, and I don't mean to demean anyone's personal histories, I do know there is a lot of real racism in this world. Americans of all shades just have no clue how much, since this country is truly politically correct and this insulates them to the ugliness out there.

No matter how you were raised, it must hurt. I've personally witnessed scenes of intense racism in my own country, Russia and Japan which you wouldn't believe. I felt sorry for them, and actually apologised in one case. Why, I don't know.

re: #209 MJ

Interested in what Obama's tax policies will bring to the rest of the nation? Here's a sample from his pals in Chicago:

The sales tax is now 10.25%!

That's the highest sales tax in the country

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

making sure everyone pays their fair share.

re: #194 turn

You'll find me at the dead end of way too many threads here too. I mainly read here to get wise feedback from all the other lizards. I'm really lazy, not much original thinking on my part but I'm a quick learner.

I have no business worrying about my humble place in the lizard status line either, but who cares? It's such a pleasure and comfort reading a site with so many like-minded posters - lowers my blood pressure too. God bless Charles Johnson!

see you soon!

re: #188 Eowyn2

But, but, those are not the wolves I know.

Hey! Watch it w/ the wolf references!

re: #164 MeThink

He is still denying his mother's race. I'd say that he was ashamed of her.

re: #220 Occasional Reader

And, on that same topic, this seems to be the perfect time for a Jessica Alba link.

Well, it's always a perfect time. But this is a more perfect time. (If the Framers can use it, so can I.)

What's that thing on her navel?

re: #210 Ringo the Gringo

It's harder for the Leftist to feel patriotism because, rather than comparing America to other countries and systems of government around the world, the Leftist compares America to his own Utopian vision of a perfect society....and America of course always falls short of the vision, leaving the Leftist in a constant state of disappointment.

On the other hand, the conservative and the moderate, contrasting America with other nations and regimes across the globe, will always feel grateful for this country and thus patriotism will come naturally.

too true. AND, 80% have never been been to an oppressive country.

Patriotism is the last home of racist xenophobe cowards!

re: #225 wolfie

Hey! Watch it w/ the wolf references!

Homo homini lupus

(I guess I'm a homophobe?)

re: #216 alegrias

* * *
Thank you for your service, and for dealing with its aftermath. Actually, Col Bud Day WAS sued by Kerry, and I sent money to the Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation so they could pay their legal expenses defending themselves. [Link: www.vvlf.com...] or [Link: www.vvlf.org...]

Thanks for reminding me there was ANOTHER reason Kerry wants McCain to repudiate Col. Bud Day, who saved McCain's life in POW camp.

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Update about Kerry's lawsuit against POW Col Bud Day:

From the link: "...We have now settled the lawsuits which have dogged us since the closing days of the 2004 election. Our efforts underscored the point made in Stolen Honor — that the anti-war, far left’s claims of war crimes committed in Vietnam were fabricated... in many cases written by the KGB and disseminated to the US public by anti-war politicians, the liberal media and Hollywood...."

“I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign."

He just has his people do it for him. I think that amounts to a lie.

re: #227 MandyManners

What's that thing on her navel?

It's the Hotness "Off" switch. Non-functional.

re: #216 alegrias

I didn't know that - and thanks for the links.

re: #210 Ringo the Gringo

Exactly, and so concise! Upding

re: #221 turn

I've always believed the vet's recollections about Kerry, now the libs label speaking the truth about a candidate "swift boating". There is so much pent up anger on the left for loosing the last two elections, if we could only find a way to convert it to usable energy our oil problems would disappear.

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Their leftist BDS is a renewable resource, now they're pointing their oily slick gushers at McCain!

re: #218 wolfie

I suspect Jeter is more like my SIL than like Obama.

BTW, I didn't know Jeter was biracial (his mother is Irish, IIRC). I found out during one pennant run when I heard he entered a Boston bar, and was racially insulted.

That's how the media portrayed it. I bet you anything he was more insulted because he was a Yankee in Red Sox country.

re: #222 vbspurs

I've got no proof one way or the other, but something I've been wondering is how much "affirmative action" had a role in playing in his identifying himself as black.

Was he accpeted to G-town and Harrvard purely on merit or was he part of a quota?

If he was part of a quota, then maybe he learned that it was a gravy train worth riding.

(God, please don't strike me down for asking the question.)

re: #233 Occasional Reader

It's a shame no one has found the "Talent On" switch yet. Oh well, she's nice to like at if you don't give her too many lines.

With thin skin like this, he ought to have a real fun 4 years getting pounded

re: #165 vbspurs

"I wouldn't like any country which would have me as President."

Remember, you're fighting for this man's patriotism- which is probably more than he ever did!

re: #239 Lizard by the Bay

Was that look?
or Lick ?

re: #232 Wm T Sherman

Yes!

And there's been more talk about McCain's military record by Obama's proxies than by McCain!

re: #225 wolfie

Hey! Watch it w/ the wolf references!

Sorry Wolfie.
Hey, wasnt there a movie with a dog named Wolfie> you're really just a wanna be wolf aren't you.

"What is it wolfie"

Oh yeah, the terminator II
"what's wolfie barking at?"

re: #238 Deafdog

Even if Affirmative Action had nothing whatsoever to do with Obama's access to higher education, you just hit on one of AA's most insidious side effects: Because of Affirmative Action, many African Americans that did get there on merit must contend with the assumption that AA had something to do with it. They can never prove that they deserved it.

re: #234 Cap'n DOC

I didn't know that - and thanks for the links.

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Also, Bud Day is from the Greatest Generation!

"...Col. George E. "Bud" Day serves as the VVLF's President. Col. Day served in World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War, and is America's most highly decorated living combat veteran. Shot down over North Vietnam on August 26, 1967, he spent more than five years as a Prisoner of War.

Col. Day was the only POW to escape from prison in North Vietnam, only to be recaptured by the North Vietnamese in the South. Col. Day has received nearly 70 military decorations and awards, the most notable being the Medal of Honor. Currently, Col. Day is a practicing attorney in Florida, specializing in profound injury and death litigation cases and military law.

Read more about Col. Day here.

re: #243 reloadingisnotahobby

Was that look?
or Lick ?

Bloody spell checker. Should be look.

re: #226 HippieforLife

He is still denying his mother's race. I'd say that he was ashamed of her.

SHE was a self-loathing Marxist.
In Dreams from My Father, he shows that he almost had a moment of insight. He says that her obsession with dating only "exotic" (non-white, 3rd world) men somehow troubled him. He doesn't (and presumably never did) follow up on this gut feeling.
He learned anti-white racism from his mama.

re: #238 Deafdog

If he was part of a quota, then maybe he learned that it was a gravy train worth riding.

(God, please don't strike me down for asking the question.)

Heh, I won't. ;)

Re: Affirmative Action. To ask that question, you have to pose another:

Would he have advanced in life if not for his being half-black? I think yes, actually. He's not the intellect his supporters make him out to be, but he has a self-motivated, introspective nature.

That's always a recipe for success, in any shade.

re: #229 Ringo the Gringo

Patriotism is the last home of racist xenophobe cowards!

and thats why I hide my face behind my glasses and peace scarf/

re: #9 CoCo

Well, he has dusted off his flag pin and started wearing it more. That has to mean he's sincere, right?

/

I'm surprised he's wearing it -- it's so rusty from being in the toilet for so long.

Not too far OT - Last weekend I saw a guy downtown wearing a large metal campaign button on his hat that said, "January 20, 2009 - Hang on America."

He threw trash on the sidewalk.

Buying online? State sales tax now awaits
Washington law kicks in today

Though Washington shoppers are on their honor to pay sales taxes each year on out-of-state purchases -- it's called a "use tax" -- most people either ignore the requirement or have never heard of it. Thus, states such as Washington are banding together to encourage online businesses to collect tax.

On Tuesday, Washington joins 18 other states that require some e-commerce businesses to collect sales tax. About 1,100 online retailers have volunteered to collect, and in return, Washington promises not to sue them for back taxes they might have owed. Three more states are on the way to adopting the law.

WA gas tax up 1.5 cents Tuesday to 37.5 cents a gallon

The gasoline tax is going up a penny-and-a-half to 37.5 cents a gallon in Washington.

WA gas tax plus federal tax now 56 cents per gallon.

State budget outlook: $2.7 billion deficit and counting

The 2009-11 deficit has worsened to $2.7 billion, up from $2.5 billion in February. Even if the legislature drains the state’s newly minted constitutional rainy day fund, the deficit would still be just under $2 billion.

re: #236 alegrias

LOL, oh new thread ...

re: #246 Lizard by the Bay

Even if Affirmative Action had nothing whatsoever to do with Obama's access to higher education, you just hit on one of AA's most insidious side effects: Because of Affirmative Action, many African Americans that did get there on merit must contend with the assumption that AA had something to do with it. They can never prove that they deserved it.

yeah they can
3.5-4.0 gpa in high school.

I bet he'd sit idly by if Michelle questioned his patriotism. He knows better than to talk back to her.

It's funny when he is interviewed. She answers for him, speaks over him and cuts him off. He talks tough when no one is in his face. Dinner Jacket would smack him around like the wussy little punk that he his.

re: #230 Occasional Reader

Homo homini lupus

(I guess I'm a homophobe?)

Shee-it! Nothing wrong with sayin' folks gobble grits like starvin' wild dogs.

re: #73 Ringo the Gringo

To the Left, the most patriotic thing an American can do is to work towards changing America into something which it has never been before.

Working to create a new and different America is their idea of patriotism, because the America that they love exists only in an imagined future, and not in our history.

Exactly! They don't love America, they have nothing but contempt for it.

Their concept of America has zero basis in reality.

re: #258 Eowyn2

yeah they can
3.5-4.0 gpa in high school.

Do you have a copy of your high school transcript lying around the house? I know I don't. Maybe I'm in the minority (npi) on that one.

re: #201 joncelli

Yes. An Obama victory means war crimes trials for key Bush admin officials. This would be a disaster for the republic.

Obama needs to be asked, in a public forum, "Who do you intend to bring war crimes charges against if you are elected president?"

The country needs to hear more about this plan.

NObama!

re: #223 Eowyn2

making sure everyone pays their fair share.

Don't people realize that a higher sales taxes hits the poor harder?
More of their money is paid out in taxes.

re: #262 Lizard by the Bay

um, yeah, its on my resume in case I ever need it.

sure, its been a few (dozen) years.

re: #226 HippieforLife

He is still denying his mother's race. I'd say that he was ashamed of her.

Wouldn't you be?

re: #13 illegal upchuck

I won't question his patriotism.

He possess none.

I'm sure he has patriotism. It's just not associated with America

re: #112 kansas

Obama is a joke. There, feel better?

Somehow, no.

re: #128 jorline

Obama's allegiance.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Why does he have both hands holding his nuts?

See #20, by Killian Bundy.

re: #238 Deafdog