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Tuesday Afternoon Open

Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:54:05 pm PDT

Just an open thread for a globally warmish kind of Tuesday afternoon...

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1 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:54:42pm

I think the left is in total meltdown mode.
So much fun to watch!

2 magicarb  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:55:48pm

Funny, you don't LOOK warmish...

3 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:55:57pm
4 bryantms  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:56:15pm

For those who want more info on why global warming is a big crock, you really should check out these great speeches by Bob Carter:

He speaks very well when it comes to these issues.

5 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:56:57pm

Is your new Schwinn OK? 'Cause I read where someone said you lost your bearings...

/

6 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:56:57pm

Hello?

7 bryantms  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:58:13pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Hello?

Howdy!

8 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:58:16pm

Obama panders to this?

I would be so completely embarrassed to have people such as this supporting me.
Looks like 8th graders goofing off with their moms camera.

Gahhh!

9 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:58:33pm

re: #3 Occasional Reader

Via Lileks: Harry Reid says coal industry is lying, just like Hitler.

When Reid speaks, like the moonbat left, he projects.....

These people think we think like them, which is their first mistake, and the fatal one at that....

10 Orbit Rain  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:58:45pm

...more warm means more crops...

ldo

11 vapig  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:59:03pm

Ditto MandyManners! Large technical difficulties on last thread!

12 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:59:16pm
Just an open thread for a globally warmish kind of Tuesday afternoon...


Got the redneck answer for global warming, right here. A six pack cooler, some fans from a couple Tandy 1000's, and some ice cubes.

14 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 2:59:17pm

Heh. I think there are lizards poking around in the 5,000+ comment thread. Hamsters don't like that.

15 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:00:20pm
16 bryantms  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:00:55pm
17 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:01:25pm

Where we ever let in on the joke about the longest thread?

18 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:03:33pm

Oh, thank goodness, we're back!

I kept staring at a "routine maintenance" message, and refreshing.

19 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:03:58pm
20 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:04:14pm

Dingy Reed's Hope for Change for Amerika: "Livin' in a 4th World Country"

Beats me why anybody would opt for an impoverished life style... unless it's for everyone except mega-wealthy democrats and their pet politicians.

21 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:04:17pm

re: #3 Occasional Reader

I liked Lileks' idea: shut down Las Vegas.

22 donbmcd  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:04:35pm

Way off topic - But the only people I hear talking about McCains war record are liberals saying it should not be talked about.

23 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:04:41pm
24 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:04:49pm

Has anyone seen the new movie about Ghenghis Khan, "Mongol"?

My husband's take was funny - the flim-maker managed to have GK come across as Moses.

25 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:05:03pm

Another day at class, 20 minutes to go, just got our last break

26 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:05:24pm

re: #11 vapig

I was close to panic!

27 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:06:27pm

When are we going to have a registration thread? I want to log in a sock puppet.

28 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:06:31pm

re: #20 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Beats me why anybody would opt for an impoverished life style

I heard some liberal on C-SPAN last week saying, "it's not just that we're addicted to oil, it's that we're addicted to energy." They think that, as an affirmative value, we should use less energy - no matter how clean and cheap the source. In other words, they hold out poverty as a positive thing.

29 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:06:41pm
30 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:07:19pm

re: #28 Occasional Reader

Everything was better when humans had to rub sticks together to make fire.

31 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:07:27pm

re: #23 ploome hineni

Because of Reid's idiot rant. It's on today's Bleat. Near the bottom

Some fun:

There’s only one sensible response: we have to shut down Las Vegas. Yes, I know, they get their power from hydro, but juice is fungible; the power that goes to light up Vegas could be used to take oil-fired plants off the grid. Closing down Vegas would reduce Nevada’s carbon footprint in other ways: a quarter of all tourists come from California, and I’d wager they drive. (Or drive to wager.) Thirty-six million visit Vegas each year – at least three million people a month arrive and depart from the airport on pollution-spewing fossil-fuel consuming planes.

32 Charles  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:07:38pm

Database server is acting a little weird. Had to restart it to try something -- still working on it.

33 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:07:46pm

re: #19 ploome hineni

Champagne! Gallons of it!

34 vapig  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:08:12pm

re: #22 donbmcd

Way off topic - But the only people I hear talking about McCains war record are liberals saying it should not be talked about.

Which, of course gives "others" the opportunity to do just that - talk about it to people who may never have known what a real hero he was.

35 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:08:39pm

My suggestion for a campaign slogan, in tribute to Bill Buckley:

No.
Think 3 foot letters.

36 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:08:56pm

Here in upstate NY that we've been using the down comforter most nights. Could the urge to use a comforter in July be just another odd result of global warming - or have the nights simply been pretty cool in the Catskills? Hmmmmm?

37 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:09:09pm

re: #31 Dianna

Shutting down the party scene at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas would also probably reduce STD transmission in this country by a good double-digit percentage.

38 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:09:16pm

re: #21 Dianna

Debt-Laden Casinos Squeezed by Slow-down - WSJ

The gambling slowdown that began early this year is taking a serious toll on Las Vegas, with banks, investors and private-equity funds growing as tightfisted as the consumers who are gambling less in the slumping economy.

Once believed to be recession-proof, casinos are proving to be highly vulnerable to the economic downturn, which is striking the industry at a bad time. Las Vegas is entering its lethargic summer season, and a boom-time frenzy of grand expansion plans and private-equity buyouts has left casinos laden with debt.

...

"This is the toughest environment we've faced," says Gary Loveman, chief executive of global gambling giant Harrah's Entertainment Inc., referring to the economic challenges roiling the entire industry.

39 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:10:28pm

re: #38 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Debt-Laden Casinos Squeezed by Slow-down - WSJ

Uh-oh. This means a lot of guys are going to wind up in shallow graves out in the desert.

(Or maybe I'm thinking of the old Vegas)

40 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:10:33pm

re: #32 Charles

Database server is acting a little weird. Had to restart it to try something -- still working on it.

The server's out of the room? That's why I haven't gotten my salad yet. How about the wine steward?

41 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:10:59pm

re: #37 Occasional Reader

CDC probably has good stats on that topic.

42 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:11:11pm

re: #28 Occasional Reader

I heard some liberal on C-SPAN last week saying, "it's not just that we're addicted to oil, it's that we're addicted to energy." They think that, as an affirmative value, we should use less energy - no matter how clean and cheap the source. In other words, they hold out poverty as a positive thing.

But they are trying to save energy. Why America is stuffed with lazy slugs and the Democrats try to provide them with good homes, yours.

43 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:11:17pm

re: #28 Occasional Reader

From personal experience... "Poverty Sucks!"

44 BBEV  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:11:29pm

I was with my family a 8 months ago as many here know they are all moonbats. One of my brothers (we will call him Jake) was telling me that the America wants a President that is middle of the road and he gave me a long speech about it. Another brother ( I will call him Don) said that what America needs was Obama. Don is a socialist and I thought Jake was a moderate. Well I called Jake today and told him of a new job that I was offered today (4 times what he makes) and I said to him “well I guess you are going to vote for McCain and Don was going to vote for Obama” Jake told me WTF no way I’m voting for Obama, dumbfounded I asked who Don was voting for and he told me he was voting for McCain. So to make a long story short. I am soooooo confused!

45 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:11:52pm

re: #37 Occasional Reader

I wouldn't know.

46 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:12:56pm

re: #45 Dianna

I wouldn't know.

Correct response! Keep repeating that for the Grand Jury, and everything will be fine, I promise.

47 P. Aaron  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:12:58pm

I am hardly a McCain fan but, Wesley Clark is a particularly ugly and smelly ass. The Democrat Party is uglier still for sending him out to do their bidding.

[/vote-no-Dems]

48 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:13:01pm

re: #40 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sommeliers only come out if they think you know what you're talking about.

49 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:13:05pm

Is there anything to do in Vegas? I mean, besides get married.

50 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:13:15pm
51 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:13:48pm

re: #43 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Amen!

Hear him/her!

52 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:13:57pm

re: #39 Occasional Reader

Uh-oh. This means a lot of guys are going to wind up in shallow graves out in the desert.

(Or maybe I'm thinking of the old Vegas)

You're probably correct. Only the wagering will be nearer to home... and much of it will be illegal in non-state sponsored sanctioned facilities.

53 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:14:08pm

re: #48 Dianna

Sommeliers only come out if they think you know what you're talking about.

Is that why I'm sitting here unnoticed?

54 amrilusaguy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:14:37pm

re: #49 godfrey


actually there is great pinball museum

55 philosoteric  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:14:42pm

So I'm trying to familiarize myself with ancient Greek in preparation for my upcoming enrollment in college (we learn both ancient Greek and French there; it's a private liberal arts school that has a nigh-insurmountable reputation). It's pretty fun, the textbook is "An Introduction to Ancient Greek: A Literary Approach" by C.A.E. Luschnig.

Anyone else learning a new language? (Or at least the basics of one?)

56 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:14:51pm

re: #46 Occasional Reader

Thank you, Counselor! I will remember.

57 vapig  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:15:36pm

re: #36 Daisy

Here in upstate NY that we've been using the down comforter most nights. Could the urge to use a comforter in July be just another odd result of global warming - or have the nights simply been pretty cool in the Catskills? Hmmmmm?

I had to wear a jacket last night - In Virginia!

58 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:15:46pm

re: #30 godfrey

Everything was better when humans had to rub sticks together to make fire.

Now we rub two atoms together and "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

59 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:15:48pm

re: #49 godfrey

Is there anything to do in Vegas? I mean, besides get married.

They have a casino or two. (If you like that sort of thing.)

60 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:10pm

re: #49 godfrey

That I really wouldn't know. I was there for ComDex once, and managed to leave unmarried, with my money, and no unexplained lacunae in my memory.

61 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:22pm

re: #51 Dianna

Male. Old, Bald and over weight. Sorry 'bout that!

62 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:33pm

re: #3 Occasional Reader

Via Lileks: Harry Reid says coal industry is lying, just like Hitler.

What do you expect from the dimbulb from Searchlight?

63 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:37pm

re: #12 EC Marm

Got the redneck answer for global warming, right here. A six pack cooler, some fans from a couple Tandy 1000's, and some ice cubes.

[Link: newmedia.funnyjunk.com...]

/country boys can survive Global warming.

64 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:44pm

re: #53 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you a wine drinker?

65 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:47pm

re: #44 BBEV

My yellow-dog Democrat mother is not only rooting and voting for McCain. She's hunting for a bumper-sticker that reads "ANOTHER DEMOCRAT FOR MCCAIN".

66 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:16:59pm

re: #55 philosoteric

Anyone else learning a new language? (Or at least the basics of one?)

I plan to start Portugese once the current work madness dies down a bit.

67 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:17:21pm

re: #49 godfrey

Is there anything to do in Vegas? I mean, besides get married.

Sure, look up this Chick.

P.S. Her name is Mecca, so you might want to govern yourself accordingly.

68 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:17:34pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Flying down to Rio?

69 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:17:43pm

Ahh, the twirling dots are mesmerizing.

firefox 3

70 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:17:52pm

re: #28 Occasional Reader

I heard some liberal on C-SPAN last week saying, "it's not just that we're addicted to oil, it's that we're addicted to energy." They think that, as an affirmative value, we should use less energy - no matter how clean and cheap the source. In other words, they hold out poverty as a positive thing.

You are so correct. Pathologically enough, Moonbat poverty advocates feel guilty for having money. There is nothing .. absolutely nothing .. in this universe .. that could induce a sense of guilt within me ... for having money/property. Nothing.

71 yochanan  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:18:07pm

re: #58 David IV of Georgia

i perfer to rub two humans together.

72 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:18:21pm

re: #49 godfrey

Is there anything to do in Vegas? I mean, besides get married.


From Doctor Strangelove

Major T. J. "King" Kong: Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
73 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:18:25pm

re: #61 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Doesn't take away from what you said, or my urge that all listen to you.

Indeed, poverty really sucks!

74 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:18:46pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

I plan to start Portugese once the current work madness dies down a bit.

Been watching those Rosetta Stone commercials on TV?

75 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:18:59pm

re: #71 yochanan

i perfer to rub two humans together.

Ooooo yeah!

76 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:19:02pm

re: #70 Daisy

You are so correct. Pathologically enough, Moonbat poverty advocates feel guilty for having money. There is nothing .. absolutely nothing .. in this universe .. that could induce a sense of guilt within me ... for having money/property. Nothing.

Yet they go to third world countries and celebrate the traditions of the poverty stricken folks.

77 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:19:06pm

re: #48 Dianna

Sommeliers only come out if they think you know what you're talking about.

Never say, Pinto Noir.

78 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:19:18pm

re: #75 Ward Cleaver

Ooooo yeah!

Adriana Lima comes to mind.

79 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:19:32pm

re: #50 Allah al Fubar

Somewhat of a Media blackout on this Obama website.

Good site.

Awesome!

80 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:19:49pm

re: #73 Dianna

Doesn't take away from what you said, or my urge that all listen to you.

Indeed, poverty really sucks!

Or as someone once put it: Money isn't everything. But poverty isn't anything.

81 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:20:04pm

Gotta' go sling some hash. Later, Lizards.

82 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:20:18pm

It's only 89° here in Dallas, Texas.

Al you got some 'slainin' to do.
It should be about 100°F or more.

I may put on a sweater.

83 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:20:25pm

re: #78 Ward Cleaver

Adriana Lima comes to mind.

Never leaves mine...

84 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:20:29pm

re: #71 yochanan

I'm at work, but under other circumstances, that's my usual solution, too.

85 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:20:44pm
86 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:21:14pm

re: #74 Ward Cleaver

Been watching those Rosetta Stone commercials on TV?

I watch the spokeswoman's silicone cleavage.

87 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:21:15pm

re: #73 Dianna

Spaceba & Dosvidanya. I am off to my palatial datcha.

88 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:21:42pm

re: #55 philosoteric

So I'm trying to familiarize myself with ancient Greek in preparation for my upcoming enrollment in college (we learn both ancient Greek and French there; it's a private liberal arts school that has a nigh-insurmountable reputation). It's pretty fun, the textbook is "An Introduction to Ancient Greek: A Literary Approach" by C.A.E. Luschnig.

Anyone else learning a new language? (Or at least the basics of one?)

I was learning French, but I stopped drinking booze and lost my accent.

Walter in Golden, Co.

89 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:21:49pm

re: #64 Dianna

Are you a wine drinker wannabe-connoisseur?

(modified the question)
Used to be, ages ago. The past few years I've taken to keeping a box wine in the fridge. It's crap, but it lasts awhile.

90 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:23:05pm

re: #77 debutaunt

Never say, Pinto Noir.

ROFL!

91 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:23:20pm

'slainin' ='splainin'

I'm listening to Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds.

92 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:23:40pm

re: #77 debutaunt

Never say, Pinto Noir.

Waiter! Bring us some fresh wine! None of that old stuff!

(And get these snails off my plate! You would think that in a fancy restaurant, at these prices, you could keep the snails off the food! There are so many snails there you can't even see the food! Now take those away and bring us those melted cheese sandwich appetizers you talked me out of!)

93 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:23:40pm

Before I get ready to go, I once again extend (to anyone who hasn't already heard about it) an invitation to a lizard gathering in San Jose, to take place on July 26th.

If you would like to attend, please drop me an email. Details will be sent out after the Glorious Fourth weekend.

I won't be asking for hard RSVPs until much later in the month, so don't feel that getting put on the info list obligates you in any way.

94 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:24:28pm

re: #73 Dianna

Doesn't take away from what you said, or my urge that all listen to you.

Indeed, poverty really sucks!

Poverty is really not that bad. At least, it wouldn't be for those of us who have already lived that life. Having grown up in shelters and in foster care, it's really not that bad. What you need is family. And food. Food a/k/a beans, rice, ground beef, basic fruits and veggies.

Always remember this: Beans are your friend.

95 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:24:35pm

re: #57 vapig

"I had to wear a jacket last night - In Virginia!"

And yet, the Moonbats in Virginia who also put jackets on last evening .. and their comrades under comforters in NY ... still operate under the delusion of global warming as dangerous! Some people simply cannot bear happiness.

96 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:25:05pm

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(modified the question)
Used to be, ages ago. The past few years I've taken to keeping a box wine in the fridge. It's crap, but it lasts awhile.

because I'm feeling like being nice:

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

{pre-Boomer Marine brat}

Good evening, Lizards!

97 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:25:07pm

re: #87 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Spaceba & Dosvidanya.

Do svedanya!

98 VibeManJoe  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:25:12pm

re: #49 godfrey

Is there anything to do in Vegas? I mean, besides get married.

You could shoot a machine gun.

99 Whiterasta  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:25:36pm

re: #85 buzzsawmonkey

Will you STOP with the logic?> Sheesh.....

100 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:25:45pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

Waiter! Bring us some fresh wine! None of that old stuff!

(And get these snails off my plate! You would think that in a fancy restaurant, at these prices, you could keep the snails off the food! There are so many snails there you can't even see the food! Now take those away and bring us those melted cheese sandwich appetizers you talked me out of!)

HAHAHAH - The disgusting garlic smell - get it away from me!

101 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:25:51pm

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The sommelier is frightened, then.

102 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:26:02pm

re: #77 debutaunt

Never say, Pinto Noir.

Now try to remember, the French are our allies, this week.

The call people sewers, as in mon-sewer. No wonder they get into fights!

103 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:26:47pm

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The past few years I've taken to keeping a box wine in the fridge. It's crap, but it lasts awhile.

Box wine... no, no, no, Boomer, don't do it, life is too short.

If you want wine to last a while, pick up a Wine Pump from your favorite liquor store; you can drink part of a bottle, pump out the air, it lasts for days or weeks, just fine.

104 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:26:59pm

re: #77 debutaunt

Never say, Pinto Noir.

Unless, of course, you are at a Mexican resturant:
I want some of that frijoles niegro stuff with some beans.

105 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:27:03pm

re: #70 Daisy

You are so correct. Pathologically enough, Moonbat poverty advocates feel guilty for having money. There is nothing .. absolutely nothing .. in this universe .. that could induce a sense of guilt within me ... for having money/property. Nothing.

All that guilt just makes it easier to take from you, my dear. This sent to me by a friend this morning:

***********

A Condensed Version of History

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were
the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
1. Liberals, and
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginningof agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor the aluminum can had been invented yet, so while our early ancestors were sitting around waiting forthem to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is now known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.

Most social workers, personal injury lawyers, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own
companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get something for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off. And there you have it. Let your next action reveal your true self.

106 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:27:13pm

re: #55 philosoteric


Anyone else learning a new language? (Or at least the basics of one?)


I stopped at "C". Learned about six others prior to that.

107 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:27:16pm

re: #82 David IV of Georgia

It's only 89° here in Dallas, Texas.

Al you got some 'slainin' to do.
It should be about 100°F or more.

I may put on a sweater.

It ain't exactly the summer of 1980. I remember that one. Forty-one straight days of 100 or more for a high, and days where it was 100 at 10am, and 100 at 10pm. Man, that summer sucked. Global Warming!

108 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:27:37pm

re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom

because I'm feeling like being nice:

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

{pre-Boomer Marine brat}

Good evening, Lizards!

URP!
NO ... don't open the link ... don't trust her ... NOOOO!

109 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:27:54pm

re: #102 lifeofthemind

Now try to remember, the French are our allies, this week.

The call people sewers, as in mon-sewer. No wonder they get into fights!

Steve Martin pointed out that they have a different word for everything.

110 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:09pm

re: #86 Kosh's Shadow

I watch the spokeswoman's silicone cleavage.

Yeah!

111 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:16pm

re: #94 Allah al Fubar

I went through a bad patch in the early 90's, when I was practicing practical botany. I'd already gotten sick of rice and beans back in college.

The good thing is, and I'm proud of it, my animals were always fed, even if I wasn't eating.

112 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:25pm

re: #76 DistantThunder

Yet they go to third world countries and celebrate the traditions of the poverty stricken folks.

I've noticed that Moonbats vastly prefer celebrating 3rd world traditions in the comfort of their - ever so guiltily green - living rooms. But, maybe that's just where I live. :)

113 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:40pm

re: #109 debutaunt

Steve Martin pointed out that they have a different word for everything.

I want a shoe with cheese on it, and force it down my throat.

114 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:55pm

Charles,

I tried to post this to the links, but it said: Does not appear to be a valid URL.

Can you help?

[Link: www.city-journal.org...]

Obama's boys of summer

Klonsky, whose disgust for mainstream politics led him to launch a new, Maoist Communist Party in the 1970s, today supports Barack Obama so enthusiastically that until recently he was blogging on the Illinois senator’s campaign website. And boycotting this November’s election, Klonsky maintains, would be a “tragic mistake.” He notes that Barack Obama isn’t Hubert Humphrey, 2008 isn’t 1968, and the strong movement he served back then is “relatively weak” now. “My own support for Obama is not a reflection of a radically changed attitude toward the Democratic Party,” Klonsky recently explained to me. “Rather, it’s a recognition that the Obama campaign has become a rallying point for young activists and offers hope for rebuilding the civil rights and antiwar coalitions that have potential to become a real critical force in society.”

Michael Klonsky is hardly the only ’68 radical supporting Obama this year. In 1968, when Mark Rudd organized the student strike that shut down Columbia University, the SDS chapter that he chaired ridiculed Kennedy and McCarthy as “McKennedy,” claimed that “neither peace candidate offers an alternative to the war policies of Lyndon Johnson,” and suggested “sabotage” as an alternative to voting. Rudd succeeded Klonsky as national SDS leader, presiding over the organization’s metamorphosis into Weatherman and performing “a liaison function” for the plot to bomb a Fort Dix soldiers’ dance that instead killed three Weathermen, including two of Rudd’s Columbia SDS colleagues. Today, Rudd renounces bombs, embraces ballots—and supports Obama. “Probably the biggest difference between Columbia SDS people in 1968 and in 2008 is forty years,” Rudd explained in an e-mail. “Most of us have lived with compromise our whole lives. As kids we were raving idealists who thought that ‘The elections don’t mean shit’ was a slogan that meant something to somebody. It didn’t.”

Then there’s Carl Davidson, who was one of SDS’s three elected national officers in 1968, when the organization first urged young people to refrain from voting.

A must read, a must (heart), and a must send to all your sane acquaintances.

115 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:57pm

re: #112 Daisy

I've noticed that Moonbats vastly prefer celebrating 3rd world traditions in the comfort of their - ever so guiltily green - living rooms. But, maybe that's just where I live. :)

Like bonging?

116 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:28:58pm

re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom

Great! Cute as H*ll! Thanks!
MWAH!

117 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:29:36pm

re: #113 Ward Cleaver

I want a shoe with cheese on it, and force it down my throat.

Laughing is so good for my abs!

118 onepistoffyid  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:29:39pm

Written by an Australian Dentist....and too good to delete....

To Kill an American

You probably missed this in the rush of news, but there was actually a
report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper, an offer
of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let
everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found
one. (Good one, mate!)


'An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish,
Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican,
African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian,
or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.


An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho,
Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native
Americans.


An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan The only
difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them
chooses.


An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will
answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to
speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the
world.


The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of
Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to
the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every
other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in
return.


When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans
came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their
country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any
other nation to the poor in Afghanistan Americans welcome the best of
everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best
food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


The national symbol of America , The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your
tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the
homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America

Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September
11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that
the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different
countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and
abetted the terrorists.

So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did
General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty
tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing
yourself . Because Americans are not a particular people from a
particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of
freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.

Please keep this going!
Pass this around the World ?
Then pass it around again.
It says it all, for all of us
Please do not just delete.
Pass it on first.
Thanks!

119 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:29:43pm

re: #105 Russkilitlover

:) !

120 Whiterasta  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:29:43pm

re: #102 lifeofthemind

I want some redneck charcoal barbecued dead cow. None of that frenchie-girly snails and frogs legs.

And I want a real shower in real running water. I don't want to cover up my man-stink with eau de cologne.

Girls don't like men who stink.

121 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:30:34pm

re: #87 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Spaceba & Dosvidanya.
I am off to my palatial datcha.

It ... rhymes?

Drinking borscht? Don't get none on ya.

122 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:30:37pm

re: #106 EC Marm

I stopped at "C". Learned about six others prior to that.

Now that's a new language. Portugese not so much.

123 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:30:48pm
re: #97 Dianna 7/01/08 3:25:07 pm

re: #87 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Spaceba & Dosvidanya.

Do svedanya!

Zdrave!*


*Before you correct me, it's Bulgarian.

124 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:31:08pm

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Box wine... no, no, no, Boomer, don't do it, life is too short.

If you want wine to last a while, pick up a Wine Pump from your favorite liquor store; you can drink part of a bottle, pump out the air, it lasts for days or weeks, just fine.

Want the horrible truth?
Yes, I've got one.

/lazy, no excuse

125 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:31:20pm

Somewhere on a radio show in the past week or so, I heard the end of a brief discussion about Canada drilling for oil 10 miles outside of ANWAR. Radio person referred to this as 'drinking our milkshake." Anyone else have info?

126 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:31:38pm

I saw this mow-ron on MSNBC this morning (don't ask), names Bob Herbert. Wrote an op-ed today in the Slimes. What a joke.

I actually heard him ask why politicians are listening to the generals in the field about Iraq. He called it ridiculous. I'm gonna go look for the video.

Here's the op ed if you can stand it, it's a mess :

‘Oh Happy Day’

I'm posting it because it pissed me off so bad, I just didn't have time to post it at work.

BBIAB.

127 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:32:17pm

re: #115 Ward Cleaver

Like bonging?

Uh huh .. accompanied by some World Music and plenty of World Food while draped in the latest ethnic World Clothing. So entheogenic of them.

128 opnion  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:33:03pm

re: #47 P. Aaron

I am hardly a McCain fan but, Wesley Clark is a particularly ugly and smelly ass. The Democrat Party is uglier still for sending him out to do their bidding.

[/vote-no-Dems]

Clark is a Cretin. He almost ignited WWIII in the Balkans commanding a British officer to attack Russians. His order was disobyed.
This does give Obama a chance to look like a statesman, denouncing Clark syaing what they told him to say.
I do hope that peopse take offense.

129 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:33:25pm

re: #127 Daisy

Uh huh .. accompanied by some World Music and plenty of World Food while draped in the latest ethnic World Clothing. So entheogenic of them.

I... kinda like "world music". There, I said it.

(We all have terrible secrets, like Boomer's box wine)

130 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:34:01pm

re: #105 Russkilitlover

A Condensed Version of History
...
Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud.
...

In the beginning, there were hot lumps.

I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I try to drink ... Guiness.

Enuf said.

131 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:34:04pm

re: #111 Dianna

I went through a bad patch in the early 90's, when I was practicing practical botany. I'd already gotten sick of rice and beans back in college.

The good thing is, and I'm proud of it, my animals were always fed, even if I wasn't eating.

Amen to that. I lived in a rooming house and had a small dog which was better fed than I was. Well, one day the landlord came knocking and I was at work, and she sees my little overweight dog in the room and confiscated her. Accused me of abuse. She locked me out for a week, so I ate pears and loaves of bread that sold for .20 back then. I had the vet send a letter to the po-lice and voilah. I get my dog back, my stuff back, my food back, my blow dryer back. I was like a country song playing backwards.

132 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:34:07pm

Bye for now Lizards. Off to make something or other wonderful for dinner. :)

133 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:34:11pm

From the other thread:

Kos=Blue Trash

134 opnion  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:34:29pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

Waiter! Bring us some fresh wine! None of that old stuff!

(And get these snails off my plate! You would think that in a fancy restaurant, at these prices, you could keep the snails off the food! There are so many snails there you can't even see the food! Now take those away and bring us those melted cheese sandwich appetizers you talked me out of!)


One of the funniest scenes ever in a movie.

135 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:34:53pm

re: #123 David IV of Georgia

Thought it looked off for Russian. Though as thoroughly awful as my Russian is...well.

136 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:35:38pm

re: #129 Occasional Reader

I... kinda like "world music". There, I said it.

(We all have terrible secrets, like Boomer's box wine)

Me too. The World Music that is :) not the Box Wine - or, for that matter, the bong.

137 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:35:57pm

re: #120 Whiterasta

I want some redneck charcoal barbecued dead cow. None of that frenchie-girly snails and frogs legs.

And I want a real shower in real running water. I don't want to cover up my man-stink with eau de cologne.

Girls don't like men who stink.

You aren't up for Es-Car-Goats? Sounds tough enough, don't it?

138 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:36:11pm

re: #134 opnion

One of the funniest scenes ever in a movie.

Movie? What movie? I just wrote that now, extemporaneously!

/

139 Dianna  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:36:24pm

Goodnight, people!

140 BBev  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:36:46pm

re: #65 MandyManners

I'll make one for her if it helps

141 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:37:22pm

I don't question Obama's patriotism, I question his courage to confront evil, whether at home or abroad.

142 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:37:24pm

re: #77 debutaunt

Never say, Pinto Noir.

They'll serve you a wrecked Ford.

143 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:37:48pm

re: #137 lifeofthemind

You aren't up for Es-Car-Goats? Sounds tough enough, don't it?

The es-car-goats can be good, if cooked and served correctly.

/spoken by an American that might well be eating rice and beans in the near future, and not necessarily regretting the future.

144 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:38:10pm

re: #4 bryantms

"Consensus" is a political term, not a scientific one.

I watched this series a few months ago. Still excellent.

145 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:38:20pm

re: #136 Daisy

Me too. The World Music that is :) not the Box Wine - or, for that matter, the bong.

At least I've NEVER used a bong, or anything in that genre.

/sobbing in disgrace over having revealed the HORRIBLE box wine

146 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:38:30pm

re: #142 CyanSnowHawk

They'll serve you a wreckedblackened Ford.


(kind of a creole dish... and suprisingly easy to make, just whack the thing on the rear)

147 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:38:37pm
148 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:38:54pm

re: #141 DistantThunder

I don't question Obama's patriotism, I question his courage to confront evil, whether at home or abroad.

I continue to question his Country of Birth. And, you should do the same. Hawaii produces Birth Certificates. Why not the messiah's?

149 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:39:34pm

I just saw on the tv this morning that the restaurant that I proposed to my wife in was struck by lightning and burned to the ground yesterday.
The High School I attended burned to the ground. The Church I was married in is now a gymnasium. The reception hall we had our wedding reception in burned to the ground.

150 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:39:55pm

re: #128 opnion

Clark is a Cretin. He almost ignited WWIII in the Balkans commanding a British officer to attack Russians. His order was disobyed.
This does give Obama a chance to look like a statesman, denouncing Clark syaing what they told him to say.
I do hope that peopse take offense.

At the risk of repeating. When an operator like Clark gives Obama a chance to make a set piece condemning talk of patriotism and allowing the media to set limits on the message and how it can be shaped or debated -
I smell a set up!

151 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:40:06pm

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

I posted this the other day, but in this week leading up to the Fourth of July, it is worth posting again:

The Man Without a Country, by Edward Everett Hale

If you have never read this story, read it.

If you have not read it for a while, renew your acquaintance with it.

I LOVE this story! It's part of a unit I designed combining American literature and American history. Sigh. I'll probably never get to teach it...

152 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:40:27pm

re: #149 EC Marm

I just saw on the tv this morning that the restaurant that I proposed to my wife in was struck by lightning and burned to the ground yesterday.
The High School I attended burned to the ground. The Church I was married in is now a gymnasium. The reception hall we had our wedding reception in burned to the ground.

I just want to say one thing: Stay the hell away from me.

153 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:40:36pm

re: #130 itellu3times

In the beginning, there were hot lumps.

I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I try to drink ... Guiness.

Enuf said.

I have to agree with Eric Idle: "American beer is like making love in a canoe......it's fucking close to water."

154 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:41:23pm
155 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:41:38pm

re: #153 Russkilitlover

I have to agree with Eric Idle: "American beer is like making love in a canoe......it's fucking close to water."

I though that was Watneys.

156 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:41:54pm

re: #149 EC Marm

I just saw on the tv this morning that the restaurant that I proposed to my wife in was struck by lightning and burned to the ground yesterday.
The High School I attended burned to the ground. The Church I was married in is now a gymnasium. The reception hall we had our wedding reception in burned to the ground.

Please don't move next door to me.
No offense meant. Life can look like that sometimes.

157 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:41:59pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

I just want to say one thing: Stay the hell away from me.

I betcha EC's the reason the server's been flaky.

158 Daisy  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:42:50pm

re: #145 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"/sobbing in disgrace over having revealed the HORRIBLE box wine."

Okay, before cooking something fabulous for dinner .. here's one of my guilty pleasures - for your eyes only pre-Boomer Marine brat: I love strawberry flavored Twizzlers.

159 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:42:57pm

re: #149 EC Marm

I just saw on the tv this morning that the restaurant that I proposed to my wife in was struck by lightning and burned to the ground yesterday.
The High School I attended burned to the ground. The Church I was married in is now a gymnasium. The reception hall we had our wedding reception in burned to the ground.

Hopefully a blessing, read.

160 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:43:11pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

This is a fast crowd.

161 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:43:12pm

re: #153 Russkilitlover

I have to agree with Eric Idle: "American beer is like making love in a canoe......it's fucking close to water."

Not this again.

That observation about American beer is 20 years out of date (at least).

Drink three or four of these, and tell me it's fucking close to water (if you can even get the words out after that).

162 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:43:13pm
163 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:43:41pm
164 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:44:10pm

re: #158 Daisy

"/sobbing in disgrace over having revealed the HORRIBLE box wine."

Okay, before cooking something fabulous for dinner .. here's one of my guilty pleasures - for your eyes only pre-Boomer Marine brat: I love strawberry flavored Twizzlers.

So... where do you stand on black twizzlers?

165 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:45:56pm

re: #164 Allah al Fubar

Black licorice. Yum.

166 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:46:23pm

re: #130 itellu3times

In the beginning, there were hot lumps.


Read me, Dr. Memory. Excuse me. I will rephrase that as a question: Read me, Dr. Memory?
/had to go way back in time for that.

167 opnion  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:46:58pm

re: #138 Occasional Reader

Movie? What movie? I just wrote that now, extemporaneously!

/

Well then I congratulate you. Ya know what would help?
Tell Marie, not to look.

168 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:47:07pm

re: #166 Pullus Iulius

Read me, Dr. Memory. Excuse me. I will rephrase that as a question: Read me, Dr. Memory?
/had to go way back in time for that.

Thank you, barney!

169 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:47:34pm

re: #161 Occasional Reader

Not this again.

That observation about American beer is 20 years out of date (at least).

Drink three or four of these, and tell me it's fucking close to water (if you can even get the words out after that).

I actually heard it 30+ years ago when Monty Python came to the Hollywood Bowl. I know, it's old, but it's still funny.....

170 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:48:03pm

I thing (sic) I have mentioned in the past that lightning struck less than 50 feet from my front door and obliterated five 80 foot tall poplars on my property? I feel like this guy sometimes.

171 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:48:43pm
172 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:49:31pm

re: #169 Russkilitlover

I actually heard it 30+ years ago when Monty Python came to the Hollywood Bowl. I know, it's old, but it's still funny.....

Speaking of James Lileks (mentioned previously), he does have this to say in today's Daily Bleat:


The picture is from West Seventh in St. Paul – a guy sitting by an abandoned brewery complete with post-apocalyptic shredded add. You can tell it’s beer, because it says “taste” and “tradition,” two things American beers like to tout. They have one or the other, usually.
173 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:49:40pm

re: #164 Allah al Fubar

So... where do you stand on black twizzlers?

Now in America we take a broad bi-partisan approach to these issues. Allowing all the evidence to accumulate and each to make their choice without regard to race, creed, place of national origin or color. You may eat your chosen confection and if it of a certain color we just ask you to use the cheap seats. I thank you.

174 BBev  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:49:43pm

re: #105 Russkilitlover

A Condensed Version of History

That was fantastice. I'm going to send that to Jake.

175 opnion  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:49:46pm

re: #150 lifeofthemind

At the risk of repeating. When an operator like Clark gives Obama a chance to make a set piece condemning talk of patriotism and allowing the media to set limits on the message and how it can be shaped or debated -
I smell a set up!

Has to be. Obama is surrounded by Axlerod & other smarmy professionals. It is a strategy, no doubt.

176 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:51:09pm

Later. (maybe)

177 nikis-knight  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:52:14pm

re: #32 Charles

Database server is acting a little weird. Had to restart it to try something -- still working on it.

Too many people unable to resist clicking on the 5,000 post thread?

178 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:53:31pm

I see over at worldnetdaily they are reporting the prolitariot is putting the champagne on ice at the obama campaign site. Also the "Jedi Knights of America" gotta be good for the cause.

179 Charles  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:54:12pm

I believe the problem has been resolved. Could have been a stuck frammistat.

180 Hard Right  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:54:24pm

re: #86 Kosh's Shadow

I watch the spokeswoman's silicone cleavage.

She's not biodegradable? BOOOOOO!

181 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:54:55pm

re: #179 Charles

What was it stuck on, 78 degrees?

182 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:55:02pm

re: #175 opnion

Has to be. Obama is surrounded by Axlerod & other smarmy professionals. It is a strategy, no doubt.


Axlerod? Is he the 'lynchpin' of the Obama campaign?

linch·pin or lynch·pin Audio Help (lĭnch'pĭn') Pronunciation Key
n.

1. A locking pin inserted in the end of a shaft, as in an axle, to prevent a wheel from slipping off.


/ Bill O'Reilly mode off

183 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:55:15pm

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people

am not really sure the story behind this, all i know is that there is construction work going on in Mecca to expand the Mecca mosque, and this building collapsed at the wrong time

Didn't the Bin Laden family do the last round of improvements to the Great Mosque?

184 abu_garcia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:56:09pm
for a globally warmish kind of Tuesday afternoon

Actually, though I would not call it cool, it's definitely below average down here in Alabama.

185 Hard Right  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:56:15pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people


Didn't the Bin Laden family do the last round of improvements to the Great Mosque?

Wait till the troofers get a hold of this one.

186 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:56:33pm

re: #179 Charles

That controls the Frammis Rod, of course. I studied them back in Collage in the '70's

187 freetoken  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:56:34pm

For the molecular biology inclined:

Crossed (evolutionary) signals?

What do humans and single-celled choanoflagellates have in common? More than you'd think. New research into the choanoflagellate genome shows these ancient organisms have similar levels of proteins that cells in more complex organisms, including humans, use to communicate with each other.

According to a paper published last week in the Proceedings of the National Academies of Sciences, these findings help confirm choanoflagellates' role as an evolutionary link between single-celled and multi-celled organisms. They also contend that these insights into the organism's genome may mean that the proteins used to help cells communicate may have other roles as well.

/is this where I am supposed to insert "Science!"?

188 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:56:51pm

Hahahah!

My cousin sent that pic to me lol

189 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:57:15pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout
I don't know, but it sure looks to my eye like a truck bomb exploded in front of that building.

190 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:57:33pm

re: #182 EC Marm

So if we get them to fire Axelrod will the wheels come off the bus?

191 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:58:02pm

re: #187 freetoken

For the molecular biology inclined:

Crossed (evolutionary) signals?

/is this where I am supposed to insert "Science!"?

Pretty damned complex for pond scum.

192 Charles  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:58:44pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people

That must have hurt.

193 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:59:08pm

re: #130 itellu3times

In the beginning, there were hot lumps.

I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I try to drink ... Guiness.

Enuf said.

It takes a real man/woman to drink the nectar of the Irish. Most people call it disgusting, bitter, and vile. Therefore it's no sissy import beer.

194 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:59:13pm
195 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 3:59:19pm

re: #189 EC Marm

From the middle clip it looks like it might be part of the mosque complex but there's no way to tell for sure. It also might be years old.

196 jcm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:02:02pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people

Didn't the Bin Laden family do the last round of improvements to the Great Mosque?

MECCA, Saudi Arabia: Rescue workers still hoped Friday to find survivors from a four-story building that collapsed in Islam's holiest city, killing at least 53 people and marring the start of the annual gathering of millions of pilgrims.

197 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:02:36pm

re: #192 Charles

Inch allah. G-d's will.

Less barbarians of the earth to breed. (And consume my oil.)

198 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:02:45pm

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey


That has to be selective breeding, the elimination of the weak and stupid, in preference to the strong and intelligent.

Funny how evolution hasnt sorted this dilemma out earlier

199 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:04:04pm

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

I guess that fellah with the elefante` was like the old joke, he was that poor monkey, trying to put the cork back in!

200 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:04:38pm

re: #198 A Kiwi Infidel

That has to be selective breeding, the elimination of the weak and stupid, in preference to the strong and intelligent.

Funny how evolution hasnt sorted this dilemma out earlier

We should therefore be in awe of EC Marm, given all that he's survived.

201 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:04:42pm

re: #196 jcm

The building that collapsed, Lulu'at al-Khair, is just 200 feet (60 meters) from the Grand Mosque.


Wow, that's close. I'll bet it was the Bin Laden family construction company.

202 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:04:46pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people


Didn't the Bin Laden family do the last round of improvements to the Great Mosque?

Cheap concrete - how mafialike.

203 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:04:59pm

re: #197 WhiteRasta

Oh so now it's your oil!?!? Let me see the bill of sale!

204 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:05:08pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people

Didn't the Bin Laden family do the last round of improvements to the Great Mosque?

That is terrible. There have been enough crane collapses in NY that we can't claim to be God's gift on construction infallibility. Standards in the 3rd world are notoriously poor and inspectors are famously corrupt. I am afraid that those standards may be getting imported into the West. On a security note we should remember that the Chechens used cover as construction workers to smuggle weapons into the school they seized in Beslan. We should keep a close eye on the construction industry and it's workers.

205 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:06:19pm
206 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:06:34pm

re: #204 lifeofthemind

Correction: Standards in the 3rd world New York City are notoriously poor and inspectors are famously corrupt.

207 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:07:00pm

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

Bonnie and Paul were ripped off. Honorable Mention? They deserved better!

Perhaps a film?

208 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:07:28pm
209 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:08:14pm

re: #203 sojerofgod

Dude: We discovered it. We figured out what to do with it. We figured out how to refine it, process it and how to get it out of the ground.

We consume it and we pay for it. The barbarians sat on it for ten thousand years and never had a clue.

It's our oil.

210 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:08:48pm
211 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:09:02pm

re: #208 buzzsawmonkey


Thanks, but sorry no.

I don't travel left of the McMason McDixon line, unless I'm going to London to see the Queen.
Then I only layover until they get the engines started again on the jet.

212 BBev  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:09:06pm

re: #192 Charles

That must have hurt.

Thats going to leave a stain.

213 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:09:38pm

re: #195 Killgore Trout
When the video starts it look like the facade has been blown away on the bottom couple of stories. Extensive black charring on the walls. A big circular hole gouged in the second floor.
Either that or the sloppiest contractors in Mecca. Wouldn't that be something?

214 Cartman  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:10:18pm

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

I just love both 3rd place, as well as the winner!

Both lend a whole new meaning to the shit hitting the fan!

215 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:10:20pm
216 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:11:22pm

re: #55 philosoteric


Anyone else learning a new language? (Or at least the basics of one?)

I'm continuously learning and forgetting Japanese.
Wakarimasen!

217 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:12:53pm

re: #209 WhiteRasta

So.... Lets go kill all the a-rabs, enslave their women, and take their oil by force? Sounds like a plan straight from DailyKos's imaginings of what they think conservatives want to do.


Of course if the women are young and shapely we might..... Oh never mind!

218 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:14:21pm

re: #215 buzzsawmonkey

Heh, now I must insert an emphatic no! to that one. Someday I may travel to the BA as a stupid tourist, but probably just stay for lunch or something.

219 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:14:37pm

re: #213 EC Marm

The last clip is from a different angle shows them using firehoses.

220 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:14:42pm

Michelle Malkin linked to these beautiful photos at Soldier's Angels - Germany"


Trust

221 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:15:08pm

re: #209 WhiteRasta

Whoever can claim legitimate title to it, it sure isn't the House of Saud and the Wahabi mafia. The oil region is the Eastern province. That was a Nestorian christian community converted by force by the army of Mohammed. It later became a Shi'a dominated district under the nominal authority of the Ottoman Caliphate. The Saudis conquered the district during the 20th century shortly before oil was discovered.

222 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:15:25pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

Looks like they were trying to pull the building with those bulldozers, but probably took more structure than they should have and the whole thing came down on them.

Unfortunately, all too common in the 3d World.

223 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:15:29pm

re: #198 A Kiwi Infidel

That has to be selective breeding, the elimination of the weak and stupid, in preference to the strong and intelligent less weak and not quite as stupid.


Fixed that for ya'.

Funny how evolution hasnt sorted this dilemma out earlier


It's still working on it. Keep in mind, the stupid moonbats you see in zombies pictures still have a lifespan of nearly 80 years (your mileage may vary). Check back in an Eon or two and humans might be noticeably less stupid.

224 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:16:25pm

re: #213 EC Marm

They were probably in the process of taking the building down and were going to pull it with those bulldozers. They probably damaged too much of the structure prepping it, leading to the collapse before they were prepared.

225 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:18:20pm

re: #213 EC Marm

I count about 20 people in front of the building as it collapses. Maybe there were more inside?

226 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:18:32pm

In another more unfortunate video, I've got some updates on that video showing hospital workers ignoring the woman in distress who dies on video from someone who worked inside Kings County for a period of time and was amazed that something like this didn't happen a long time ago.

227 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:19:28pm

re: #224 lawhawk

They were probably in the process of taking the building down and were going to pull it with those bulldozers. They probably damaged too much of the structure prepping it, leading to the collapse before they were prepared.

Oh, premature demolition. That can happen to anyone, don't let it worry you.

228 Lively  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:19:40pm

re: #226 lawhawk

In another more unfortunate video, I've got some updates on that video showing hospital workers ignoring the woman in distress who dies on video from someone who worked inside Kings County for a period of time and was amazed that something like this didn't happen a long time ago.

Baldwin video?

229 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:19:48pm
Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.

Soon to collapse into the center of the earth, more like.

230 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:20:42pm

re: #193 BlueCanuck

It takes a real man/woman to drink the nectar of the Irish. Most people call it disgusting, bitter, and vile. Therefore it's no sissy import beer.

Wot?

Guiness stout, it's like drinking a molasses-covered pound cake!

231 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:21:37pm

re: #230 itellu3times

Wot?

Guiness stout, it's like drinking a molasses-covered pound cake!

Mmm! Pound Cake!

232 donbmcd  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:22:17pm

"So.... Lets go kill all the a-rabs, enslave their women, and take their oil by force? Sounds like a plan straight from DailyKos's imaginings of what they think conservatives want to do.


Of course if the women are young and shapely we might..... Oh never mind!"


We might WHAT ! What might we do with the young shapley a-rab girls?

I like this thread more and more every day!

233 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:22:20pm

re: #228 Lively

Damnit. Wrong link.

Here's the correct link.

234 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:22:46pm

re: #229 godfrey

Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.

Soon to collapse into the center of the earth, more like.

The sun, moon, and stars, the celestial spheres spin around it, too, I surmise.

235 Cartman  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:23:06pm

The more I use LGF Spy, the cooler it becomes. Thanks for another great innovative feature, Charles.

236 sojerofgod  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:23:12pm

re: #230 itellu3times

Or the stuff they scraped out of the bottom of the barrel once they poured off the real beer!

237 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:24:06pm

re: #224 lawhawk

They were probably in the process of taking the building down and were going to pull it with those bulldozers. They probably damaged too much of the structure prepping it, leading to the collapse before they were prepared.


That kind of makes sense. Too many people standing around for it to be 'controlled'. It looks emptied. If it had caught fire an empty steel/cement structure is going to take a long time to weaken enough to collapse. I see rounded cement columns, some broken. Some smoke at right side which seems to be under the building.

238 Lively  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:25:27pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

collapsing building in Mecca kills several people


Didn't the Bin Laden family do the last round of improvements to the Great Mosque?

This could have been an inside job. Rosie?

239 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:26:17pm

re: #230 itellu3times

Hey, I agree with you on that. But the looks I have gotten from some friends is great. I discovered an added benefit of Guiness when they came out with the cans. I could leave a four pack in a buddies fridge and show up three months later and they would still be there. Slightly dusty but good.

/then there were the other friends who enjoyed it as much as I did.

240 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:27:08pm

re: #226 lawhawk

In another more unfortunate video, I've got some updates on that video showing hospital workers ignoring the woman in distress who dies on video from someone who worked inside Kings County for a period of time and was amazed that something like this didn't happen a long time ago.

I saw this last night. Apparently at a mental health unit. The first thing I wondered was, do they have to deal with a bunch of people faking seizures or throwing tantrums in that manner? It could explain the complacency shown. Cry wolf enough and even dedicated professionals might become jaded enough to do that. And then I read about the many complaints about the care at that facility, and suddenly it looked very, very bad.

241 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:28:16pm

re: #217 sojerofgod

Are you serious? Where did I say about enslaving the muslims? And raping their women?

Fuckwit.

242 Lively  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:28:29pm

re: #233 lawhawk

Damnit. Wrong link.

Here's the correct link.

Thanks for the link.

And Obama wants to turn all health care Universal which means all of us will face this.

Medicare is going broke, so he wants to form another version of Medicare for us younger folk.

Get ready for more of these videos in more hospitals.

243 TexasYeehadist  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:29:46pm

Obama Throws Fist Bump Under The Bus

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

244 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:30:02pm
245 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:31:37pm

re: #232 donbmcd

We don't have to "enslave their women." That is their way of thinking, a goal they would expect because it is they want to do to our society. Our goal should be to liberate their women, like everyone else. When the women there, not "their women", are free to go with any man they choose or none they will be free. I think we should have told the locals that we were going to defend our values because their values had created a dangerous pest hole that threatened the world. We should have told them that a 18 year old girl should be able to walk in a string bikini wearing her mother's jewelry from Mosul to Basra. If anybody so much as offered a hostile gesture to her we would kill them. Like Lord Napier on the practice of suttee we should have made our values so clear that we were respected. Then the people would have become as safe and free and ready to join the civilized world as the post WW-II Europeans are.

246 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:32:31pm

re: #238 Lively

I think the guy in the white robe got close to the building but then makes it out alive. As soon as he hears the first crack, he turns and runs. The camera shakes a lot and we lose view, but he appears to make it to the perimeter. Could still be killed by shattering debris, but he's clearly on the edge of surviving it.

247 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:34:01pm

re: #233 lawhawk

Damnit. Wrong link.

Here's the correct link.

The doctor has been fired? Only fired?

How about indictment for manslaughter? His license taken away, and HIM put out on the frickin' street to root through trash cans or starve?

248 grumpy old codger  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:35:40pm

re: #36 Daisy
How far upstate in upstate NY?

249 J.S.  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:37:36pm

re: #243 TexasYeehadist

Change! Quick! Hopefully, no one notices!

250 grumpy old codger  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:40:05pm

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

I'm from Boston, so does English count as a second language?

251 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:41:45pm

OT. If the actors go on strike like the writers did, will the quality of acting increase in the monumental way the writing did?

252 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:43:29pm

Hey, K-Trout! Are you still there?
The kids were gone tonight so I made that fish recipe you posted a couple of times....the one w/ curry sauce. YUM !
(I made it w/ mahi-mahi instead of tilapia. No big diff, I'm sure.)

253 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:43:41pm
254 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:44:32pm
255 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:45:54pm
256 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:46:29pm

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey


If the Democrats get in, the wonders of this sort of health care will be available to all. Whether they like it or not.


I was at the DMV this week. Some lgfer recently compared intergalactic universal health care to the DMV so I paid close attention. The building was air conditioned to a nice crisp 65 degrees on a 75 degree day outside. The waiting area was about half full. I arrived at 10:00 am. The line was moving pretty quickly. Then a senior citizen bus pulled up and a 75 year old (at least) woman got off. One of the three state employees taking care of my concern got up and escorted her to the seat at the front of the line. She was obviously too weak to drive. She said something about needing a license for identifications then said, "[deleted] t o w e l heads". I kid you not. Well after that the line slowed, then stopped at 10:30. It was apparently break time, and only one clerk was working. This went on like this until 11:00 when the two others returned to work. I had to go through a couple minutes of the "motor voter" touch screen questionaire and the picture they took of me was straight from a police line-up. All in all, I'd rate the experience about a C-.

257 grumpy old codger  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:48:05pm

re: #149 EC Marm

Please don't stand next to us in the lounge!

258 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:48:52pm

Met a woman tonight who's family has owned a tobacco farm in Canada for many, many years. She told me that they haven't yet received "permission" from the government to grow their crop next year. I guess tobacco ain't that popular north of the border these days.

Go government! They can try and save you from everything except, well, government.

259 Charles  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:48:56pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Is your new Schwinn OK? 'Cause I read where someone said you lost your bearings...

/

You got me nervous, so I took off the handlebars and headset and removed the O-ring to get into the races, and you know what, no problem. Plenty of bearings in there.

Was a little dry though, so I applied a little grease.

260 MellyMel  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:49:24pm

re: #94 Allah al Fubar

Poverty is really not that bad. At least, it wouldn't be for those of us who have already lived that life. Having grown up in shelters and in foster care, it's really not that bad. What you need is family. And food. Food a/k/a beans, rice, ground beef, basic fruits and veggies.

Always remember this: Beans are your friend.

I learned a lot from living in poverty. First, I wouldn't change it for the world -- it made me who I am today -- I love not being materialistic and appreciating the little things (like food and heat). Second, I don't want to go back.

To this day, I remember what it was like and I feel tremendously for those who currently live in it. So for me, poverty was in many ways a blessing, but for a lot of people it just really does suck.

/just my 2 cents

261 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:51:13pm

re: #253 buzzsawmonkey

There have been any number of despotic regimes that have been overthrown in the last 80 years. Why the brigands known as the House of Saud, put into place by the now-defunct British Empire following WWI, should be considered sacrosanct is beyond me.

The King of Saudi Arabia acts as the Guardian of the Two Shrines (Mecca and Medina), but the House of Saud has no legitimacy in that role. Abdul Aziz ibn Saud usurped the title when he appointed himself king and founded the present Saudi dynasty.

The Hashemite line is the historical holder of the title and the authority, even under the Ottomans. Nowadays, that's the King of Jordan.

262 Luigi  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:51:35pm

Obama wants to 'expand' Bush's Faith Based Initiatives. That means he wants give more tax money to Rev. Wright and people like Farrakhan. That's exactly what this means. The Dems want to create a constituency of churches where the Dems are seen as the benefactors and the sugar boys, and the churches respond by steering their congregants to the party on election day.

This so-called Faith Based approach where the government uses churches to "fight poverty" is one of the most dangerous things in public life in this country today. It creates monsters. It turns the church into an arm of government beholden to whichever party 'expands' the sugar bowl.

It turns the separation of church and state on its head.

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

263 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:54:26pm
264 allan5oh  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:55:56pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CANADA!

141 years of putting up with you yanks!

265 godfrey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:56:25pm

re: #262 Luigi

Yep. Not good, and there are powerful people around who want the US constitution to look much more like, say, Germany's.

266 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:56:28pm

re: #262 Luigi

Obama wants to 'expand' Bush's Faith Based Initiatives. That means he wants give more tax money to Rev. Wright and people like Farrakhan. That's exactly what this means. The Dems want to create a constituency of churches where the Dems are seen as the benefactors and the sugar boys, and the churches respond by steering their congregants to the party on election day.

This so-called Faith Based approach where the government uses churches to "fight poverty" is one of the most dangerous things in public life in this country today. It creates monsters. It turns the church into an arm of government beholden to whichever party 'expands' the sugar bowl.

It turns the separation of church and state on its head.

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

Just like the libs to abuse a good thing to the point of violating the first article of the Bill of Rights.....

267 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:58:09pm

re: #252 wolfie

Glad you liked it. I eat it all the time somtimes with rice but it also goes well with a nice baguette to soak up the juice. You might also like Miso fish. I'm not a fan of refined sugar so I do it with just a table spoon or two.

268 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:58:41pm

re: #256 EC Marm

I was at the DMV this week. Some lgfer recently compared intergalactic universal health care to the DMV so I paid close attention. The building was air conditioned to a nice crisp 65 degrees on a 75 degree day outside. The waiting area was about half full. I arrived at 10:00 am. The line was moving pretty quickly.

You must not have been in a CA DMV. At all the ones I've been to, the line is out the door and it moves like molasses.

269 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:59:24pm

re: #264 allan5oh

G-d Bless America! And Canada.

270 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:59:32pm

The Democrats always accuse the Republicans of trying to cut Medicare benefits, but I believe they are stepping into a bucket of Shiite with this.

This year, majority Democrats homed in on cutting the Medicare Advantage program, which is an ideological issue for both parties. The Bush administration and Republicans like Medicare Advantage because it lets the elderly and disabled choose their own doctors and get their health benefits through private insurers rather than through traditional Medicare. Democrats argued that government payments to the insurers are too generous.
The White House warned that President Bush would be urged to veto a bill that contained cuts to Medicare Advantage.
That didn't stop the House last Tuesday from approving the legislation 355-59, well above the margin needed to override a veto. Every Democrat supported it, and Republicans, bucking their president, voted 129-59 for it.


Obama will saaave us.

271 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 4:59:47pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

See also: Sweet Miso-Marinated Fish
Works great on the BBQ!

272 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:02:07pm

Look what we get to see every day on our drive home:

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

And they are planning lights.

NOBAMA

273 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:02:31pm

re: #192 Charles

Oooh, that's gonna' leave a mark!

274 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:03:50pm
275 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:04:53pm

re: #274 buzzsawmonkey
LOL He sure doesn't look friendly in that rendering, that's for sure.

276 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:05:02pm

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

So we depose the Saudis, give the Hashemites the Arabian peninsula, let the "Palestinians" turn Jordan--the bulk of Mandate Palestine--into the one and only "Palestinian state," and Israel gets to keep Gaza and the West Bank.

Sometimes the solution is to cut the Gordian Knot.

SHEESH!
I THOUGHT I felt someone doing a Vulcan mind-meld on me!

277 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:06:46pm

re: #274 buzzsawmonkey

I wonder how long it will take for that to get "tagged"?

278 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:07:35pm

re: #268 DesertSage

You must not have been in a CA DMV. At all the ones I've been to, the line is out the door and it moves like molasses.


I should have mentioned this was a weekday morning, not Saturday when most folks have to go.

279 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:07:56pm
280 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:08:11pm

re: #271 Killgore Trout

Those look interesting....especially the marinated one.
I have never cooked w/ miso before.
Do you think that marinade would be good w/ bass?

281 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:08:28pm

re: #277 sngnsgt
LOL
I will check it out every day and report back to LGF.

282 least  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:08:59pm

I b'lieve I've looked at the whole thread -- I can't believe no one linked to this.

283 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:10:28pm

re: #274 buzzsawmonkey

That's almost 1984 creepy.

284 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:10:33pm

re: #272 Pvt Bin Jammin

Look what we get to see every day on our drive home:

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

And they are planning lights.

NOBAMA

I saw that mural last time I drove to your place.

285 ciaospirit  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:10:40pm

CAIR hissy fit #?. Incitement. I guess it might incite someone to take a shower. Can't have that.

Incitement Watch: Debbie Schlussel Says Muslims Smell Bad
Posted 7/1/2008 1:49:00 PM

Blogger Debbie Schlussel, who has appeared on Fox News and MSNBC, recently posted the following to her website:

“UPDATE, 06/29/08: Tough luck, Muslims. Despite your endless whining, dogs will sniff you, anyway (if the stench doesn't kill 'em).”

For background on Debbie Schlussel, click here.

286 least  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:10:43pm

re: #282 least

Or are we avoiding YT? Can't keep up.

287 CoCo  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:11:14pm

re: #272 Pvt Bin Jammin

Look what we get to see every day on our drive home:

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

And they are planning lights.

NOBAMA

I get this message when I click on the link:

This web site at [Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...] has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

288 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:12:25pm

re: #284 DesertSage
If I create some kind of diversion, will you go down there and paint a Stalin mustache on it? LOL

289 Alouette  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:13:50pm

re: #196 jcm

MECCA, Saudi Arabia: Rescue workers still hoped Friday to find survivors from a four-story building that collapsed in Islam's holiest city, killing at least 53 people and marring the start of the annual gathering of millions of pilgrims.

Oh, those wily Zionists!

290 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:14:04pm

re: #285 ciaospirit

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a reputation in Iran for a ... shortage, if not a lack ... of personal hygiene.

291 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:15:16pm
292 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:16:17pm

re: #272 Pvt Bin Jammin

Look what we get to see every day on our drive home:

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

And they are planning lights.

NOBAMA

I have one of those

293 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:16:20pm

re: #287 CoCo
That's wierd, it's another page of the paper. Attack sight is right, after that shooting.

294 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:16:22pm

re: #288 Pvt Bin Jammin

If I create some kind of diversion, will you go down there and paint a Stalin mustache on it? LOL

Make it pencil thin, not bushy like Stalin's.
Then put granny glasses on him!
And false eyelashes!
Wimp him out!

295 donbmcd  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:16:31pm

Drill of the costs and Anwar, and while doing that build 20 nuke plants for electrical power, and begin massive solar farms like Germany. Hell build one in space and beam the power back to the us. USE the time that drilling gives us to build it's replacement. You can breath the exhaust from some of the new cars, they have so little emissions.

There are solutions here, we just don't want to do them. I have to wonder why.

296 Alouette  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:17:00pm

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

AND THE WINNER IS...
Zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt (Paderborn, Germany ) fed his constipated elephant 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally got relief. Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded. The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground where he struck his head on a rock as the elephant continued to evacuate 200 pounds of dung on top of him. It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that proves...'Shit happens'

That's an oldie, happened over 10 years ago.

297 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:17:10pm

re: #281 Pvt Bin Jammin

Send me the bill for the spray paint ;-)

298 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:17:57pm

Evening all!
A great story an Algore! The energy hog!
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

299 opnion  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:18:15pm

re: #196 jcm

MECCA, Saudi Arabia: Rescue workers still hoped Friday to find survivors from a four-story building that collapsed in Islam's holiest city, killing at least 53 people and marring the start of the annual gathering of millions of pilgrims.


Well, if you can't say anything nice say nothing. No comment.

300 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:18:18pm
301 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:18:51pm

re: #291 buzzsawmonkey

And, given where the bar is set...

Bar of soap?
How about "setting" it as a suppository?

302 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:19:13pm

re: #270 ibmkeyboard

The Democrats always accuse the Republicans of trying to cut Medicare benefits, but I believe they are stepping into a bucket of Shiite with this.

Obama will saaave us.

LInky?

303 Alouette  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:19:24pm

re: #232 donbmcd

We might WHAT ! What might we do with the young shapley a-rab girls?

Put them in daycare.

304 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:19:46pm

re: #289 Alouette

Oh, those wily Zionists!

I'll bet they WILL blame the Jooooos.
Really.

305 Tigger2005  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:19:52pm

Speak up...sometimes, you might make a difference.

A couple days ago I posted about a "global peace" event being sponsored by the New Thought Christian organization I work for. I was concerned because the Web site for this event, in the links section, listed as "resources" for local churches a veritable who's who of radical left-wing anti-American organizations, including Code Pink and Amnesty International. In addition, Arun Ghandi was scheduled to speak during the event.

I made up my mind to send e-mails to the President and to the member of the executive team who had been involved in scheduling Arun. I was polite but passionate in expressing my feelings about these two issues, and pointed out that it could be bad PR for the organization to have its name associated with these groups, even indirectly.

Well, the President e-mailed back and thanked me for educating her, and mentioned that as a non-profit org., it was very important that we maintain political neutrality. She said she would share my concerns with the board.

I don't know what will happen with the Arun Ghandi issue, but the person I wrote to wrote back to thank me for sharing my concerns and, among other things, mentioned that it was her understanding that Arun's remarks might have been misconstrued or even deliberately misreported. I responded that my concerns were based on what Arun actually said and not what others said about it. She then asked if I could share the text of Arun's words that sparked the controversy (she was aware of the incident, but had not actually read what Arun had written). From her brief response, I think she was shocked, surprised, and disappointed.

I've read those comments by Arun several times and each time I almost get sick to my stomach.

306 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:20:44pm

re: #298 CapeCoddah

I bet Al doesn't even have them little swirly light bulbs yet that little hippy-crit!

307 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:22:08pm

re: #305 Tigger2005

Speak up...sometimes, you might make a difference.

A couple days ago I posted about a "global peace" event being sponsored by the New Thought Christian organization I work for. I was concerned because the Web site for this event, in the links section, listed as "resources" for local churches a veritable who's who of radical left-wing anti-American organizations, including Code Pink and Amnesty International. In addition, Arun Ghandi was scheduled to speak during the event.

I made up my mind to send e-mails to the President and to the member of the executive team who had been involved in scheduling Arun. I was polite but passionate in expressing my feelings about these two issues, and pointed out that it could be bad PR for the organization to have its name associated with these groups, even indirectly.

Well, the President e-mailed back and thanked me for educating her, and mentioned that as a non-profit org., it was very important that we maintain political neutrality. She said she would share my concerns with the board.

I don't know what will happen with the Arun Ghandi issue, but the person I wrote to wrote back to thank me for sharing my concerns and, among other things, mentioned that it was her understanding that Arun's remarks might have been misconstrued or even deliberately misreported. I responded that my concerns were based on what Arun actually said and not what others said about it. She then asked if I could share the text of Arun's words that sparked the controversy (she was aware of the incident, but had not actually read what Arun had written). From her brief response, I think she was shocked, surprised, and disappointed.

I've read those comments by Arun several times and each time I almost get sick to my stomach.

How is a peace event politically neutral? The thugs in Burma want nothing more than peace and have the outside world look away. PEace is overrated. Freedom is not.

308 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:22:43pm

Oh, but he does,, the story is hilarious. He uses more energy now than he did before the "green" overhaul of his home!

309 Alouette  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:23:13pm

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

So we depose the Saudis, give the Hashemites the Arabian peninsula, let the "Palestinians" turn Jordan--the bulk of Mandate Palestine--into the one and only "Palestinian state," and Israel gets to keep Gaza and the West Bank.

Sometimes the solution is to cut the Gordian Knot.

Yeah but, how long would it take for the Palestinians to turn Jordan into a shithole like Gaza?

310 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:23:28pm

re: #292 SasquatchOnSteroids
Sorry, I couldn't go to that link. My computer bogged down & I got the little hand for a few minutes, then had to log in again here. Weird.

Do you have one of the shirts?

311 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:23:30pm
312 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:24:46pm
313 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:25:13pm

re: #288 Pvt Bin Jammin

If I create some kind of diversion, will you go down there and paint a Stalin mustache on it? LOL

I don't know PBJ, that's not a good neighborhood to be messin' with St. Obama.

314 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:26:11pm

re: #294 wolfie
Make it pencil thin, not bushy like Stalin's.
Then put granny glasses on him!
And false eyelashes!
Wimp him out!
re: #297 sngnsgt
Much oblidged!

315 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:28:00pm

re: #313 DesertSage
Okay, I'll get hubby and the dogs to stand guard.

316 wolfie  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:28:54pm

re: #305 Tigger2005

I am so proud of you! May you be a role model to us all!
Sometimes people really don't know what going on and we can always (politely & w/o rancor) inform them. I need to remember that myself.
Maybe we can make a difference. It already looks as if you have encouraged people to be more careful. A huge step.

317 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:35:34pm

re: #310 Pvt Bin Jammin

Sorry,stepped out for a sec.

Try again, damn link worked when I previewed....

318 BBev  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:42:05pm

re: #250 grumpy old codger

I'm from Boston, so does English count as a second language?

I know this is late but the answer is yes. being just north of Boston some people do not understand what the hell I am saying sometimes.

319 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:45:11pm

Hi again, Lizards. I'm staying here for awhile. Anyone else?

320 LeePro  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:53:57pm

re: #272 Pvt Bin Jammin

Look what we get to see every day on our drive home:

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

And they are planning lights.

NOBAMA

YIKES!

Here's what I got at that link:

Reported Attack Site!
This web site at [Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...] has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.
Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system. Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners.

I'm kinda behind on the thread, so please ignore, if this has already been addressed!
:-/

321 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:54:16pm

So is everybody on the ID vs Evolution thread?

322 LeePro  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:57:42pm

re: #319 goddessoftheclassroom

Hi again, Lizards. I'm staying here for awhile. Anyone else?

I'm stayin'!

Been chewed up/spit out too many times elsewhere.

323 LeePro  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 5:58:47pm

Joined NRA today! ! !

WooHoooooooooooooo for MEEEEEEEEEEEE! ! !

324 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:08:58pm

re: #321 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

So is everybody on the ID vs Evolution thread?

NO WAY!

325 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:10:12pm

re: #323 LeePro

Joined NRA today! !

WooHoooooooooooooo for MEEEEEEEEEEEE! ! !

Good for you!

My views on gun control have changed 180 degrees since my youth. I really was a victim of the emotional blackmail/propaganda.

326 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:16:22pm

Charles -

As an old UAW Committee Man - from the day - why do I feel next to NOTHING - with Starbucks closing 600 stores and laying off a BUNCH of people? Perhaps I yearn for the day when DUNKIN' DONUTS stores were set up with a luncheonette-style "Coffee-Bar" at which you could smoke, have a 65 cent cup of coffee (with refill), read and contemplate the world as it was, and perhaps should be. Thank you PETER LYNCH for that interlude. Not so anymore, even DUNKIN' has become Politically Correct, Non-Smoking, and no more "Coffee Bar." More like McDonald's with tables.
Had I the capital, I would start something like the 1980's 'DUNKIN DONUTS as a "Private Club." Bet it would succeed.

-S-

327 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:20:50pm

re: #326 Dr. Shalit

I remember stopping at DD after a late movie and getting coffee and a donut for less than a dollar...

328 pingjockey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:22:11pm

Hooray for puppy dogs of blasphemy, hooray for dkos being infantile moonbats, hooray for obambi getting in a snit about his lackeys and his questioning of other peoples patriotism. Just hooray I guess. Good day at work,(for a change)

329 pingjockey  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:23:02pm

re: #327 goddessoftheclassroom
We don't have any kind of donut shop here! :(

330 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:24:34pm

re: #329 pingjockey

We don't have any kind of donut shop here! :(

How sad!

331 offendi  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:35:40pm

re: #329 pingjockey

We don't have any kind of donut shop here! :(

So does that mean you don't have a police department either?
(just joking)

332 LeePro  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:36:32pm

re: #325 goddessoftheclassroom

Good for you!

My views on gun control have changed 180 degrees since my youth. I really was a victim of the emotional blackmail/propaganda.

Yep! Got the Old Farts discount.

Took the Intermediate shooting class (only two of us girls there!). Got a 99 on the final shooting "test" — military guy got 100, everybody else below me!
:D
5' nuthin"
Smith & Wesson 642 (with bruises to match!)
Girl.

Shopping for revolver with 2-3" barrel...

333 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:41:30pm

re: #332 LeePro

I should look in to shooting classes. I don't have a gun yet, but I've been thinking about getting one.

334 hermeneutics  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:48:59pm

Hi all -- Your wandering hermeneutics is checking in. Just came down from the high altitude trails near Aspen, Colorado. WE HAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY!

335 LeePro  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:49:01pm

re: #333 goddessoftheclassroom

I should look in to shooting classes. I don't have a gun yet, but I've been thinking about getting one.

Most shooting ranges will rent you a gun if you take the course. If you have never touched a gun before, I recommend the Beginners class, but if you have shot before and know basics (loading, aiming, pulling trigger), the Intermediate is perfect.

I have been renting both for class and for range practice.

336 hermeneutics  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 6:53:42pm

Oh well, I guess everyone is happily bickering on the Evolution thread ... I'd rather not partake. Will be checking in in an hour or so.

337 Steve  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 7:09:04pm

re: #335 LeePro

Most shooting ranges will rent you a gun if you take the course. If you have never touched a gun before, I recommend the Beginners class, but if you have shot before and know basics (loading, aiming, pulling trigger), the Intermediate is perfect.

I have been renting both for class and for range practice.

If I were you I would seriously think about getting a gou. Preferably one that you do not have to register to buy.
The classes are an extremely good idea.

338 infidelia  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 7:19:50pm

Whilst I support Charles in this effort and would be happy to hold his coat while he pursues it, I've decided discretion is the better part of chicken here. IOWs, my ground status as an all-around infidel having been long established I wouldn't touch that thread with a dead skunk crazy glued to the end of the proverbial 10-foot pole.

Early recommendation for Brad Thor's newest novel "The Last Patriot". Clever plot device (though the "secret" is not that hard to guess) and an excellent means of introducing unsuspecting espionage-action novel fans to the present realities of the war on Islamism. Thor liberally you should excuse the expression references current events and players (CAIR becomes 'FAIR', etc.) and provides a quick course to get the reader up to speed on what the MSM is neglecting to mention.

I just hope he's right about all those peace-loving "moderate" Muslims out there...

339 LeePro  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 7:31:24pm

re: #337 Steve

If I were you I would seriously think about getting a gou. Preferably one that you do not have to register to buy.
The classes are an extremely good idea.

Have already posted such, son. Been around the block a few times.

In my state, the only permit needed is CC.

340 Timbre  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 8:15:51pm
Drug Dealers Going Free Under San Francisco Sanctuary Law

Tuesday, July 01, 2008

A sanctuary ordinance in San Francisco is protecting young drug dealers from federal deportation in what a U.S. prosecutor is calling a "gaming of the system" for illegal immigrants.

The San Francisco Juvenile Probation Department has been shipping underage crack dealers to group homes in an effort to shield them from the feds under the city's 1989 "City of Refuge" ordinance, which prohibits city employees from informing Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents of illegal immigrants.

Up until last month, the department flew the drug dealers back to their home countries without informing ICE agents. But now, after being sent to the group homes under the new policy, the youths just run away.

"These kids are gaming the system," Joseph P. Russoniello, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of California, told FOXNews.com.
"Whoever they are, they're playing it like a Stradivarius because the cops are saying they're seeing these characters three and four times."

FOX News.com

Well, maybe when MS-13 takes over the city, the city patriarchs and matriarchs will think twice about this sanctuary practice?

341 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 8:16:35pm

re: #81 MandyManners

Gotta' go sling some hash. Later, Lizards.

Holding up plate, hoping it's corned beef hash....

342 Carridine  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 8:25:39pm

re: #295 donbmcd

Drill off the coasts,and Anwar, and while doing that build 20 nuke plants for electrical power, and begin massive solar farms like Germany. Hell build one in space and beam the power back to the us. USE the time that drilling gives us to build it's replacement. You can breath the exhaust from some of the new cars, they have so little emissions.

There are solutions here, we just don't want to do them. I have to wonder why.

Don, take a look at this! One-tenth of New Mexico farmed out would create enough fuel/power to power ALL North America!

343 Hard Right  Tue, Jul 1, 2008 9:13:53pm

re: #332 LeePro

Yep! Got the Old Farts discount.

Took the Intermediate shooting class (only two of us girls there!). Got a 99 on the final shooting "test" — military guy got 100, everybody else below me!
:D
5' nuthin"
Smith & Wesson 642 (with bruises to match!)
Girl.

Shopping for revolver with 2-3" barrel...

Got a 98 on mine. No extra credit for the speedy reload. :(


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