you mean tourist, right ?

Frontloader... in the name of accuracy.

Monitoring the HuffPo and DK. so far nothing too bad.

he was only out joy riding, celebrating the 4th

It is a front end loader (which moves faster than a bulldozer).

Media get these things wrong all of the time.

but you can still bet his relatives will be handing out candy and celebrating

At least the Israelies won't be tossing this one back.

Meanwhile in the E. Jerusalem "hood" they are dancing in the street and passing out candy.

Meanwhile, some KOS kidz are showing their solidarity by standing shoulder to shoulder with this Palestinian murderer freedom fighter. Saying "we are all terrorists now".

Israeli security forces used disproportional force......
/

Well, at least he won't be getting out on appeal.

Does an Israeli ID card mean he was a citizen? From what I understand, terrorism by Israeli arabs is pretty rare.

A bulldozer? He was just paving the way for the Religion of Peace.

I wonder how the American media will spin this ?

tractor kills 30 in small, illegal country in middle east

SUV sized tractor wipes out 30 in horrific accident

SUV driver killed by crazed Jewish gun nut
freshly empowered by US Supreme Court gun ruling

which will be on the NY Times tomorrow ?

There is a lot about this in the Open Thread.

He didn't just plow into a bus, he went on a rampage. He was on route to a very busy marketplace when he was neutralized.

He wasn't just taken out by police, a brave 18 year old off-duty soldier grabbed a gun and jumped on board, shooting the terrorist before the police could.

This soldier happens to be the brother in law of the man who stopped the Yeshivah terrorist in March.

Washington Post has it as
"Driver Rams Backhoe Into Jerusalem Bus"

Just a traffice accident I guess.

Good thing that guy in the blue shirt with the gun was there....superman?

Just awful.

My prayers for the victims.

re: #11 nikis-knight

Well, at least he won't be getting out on appeal.

Does an Israeli ID card mean he was a citizen? From what I understand, terrorism by Israeli arabs is pretty rare.

Report I saw was it was a "blue card." Work permit for working in Israel.

It's just disgusting to me that the world will continue to demand that it's somehow up to Israel to concede more to these murderous thugs.

Good for the IDF fellow. (Man, there's a lot of pistols in that video!)

And Charles, you're apparently a part of the dreaded MSM conspiracy to diminish this attack by calling it a 'bulldozer,' and thereby equating it to Israel's own actions with bulldozers.

It's a Caterpillar front-end loader, with a hydraulic flux capacitor lever widget -- just everyone knows that, man.

(Evil conspirator.)

I am glad this terrorist is dead. His body should be delivered to his masters, whichever group that may be.

re: #13 Adrenalyn

cnn has called it a 'terrorist' attack.

in quotes.

because clearly, the israelis made this one up.

/sarc. and disgust.

Are the passing out candy in Gaza yet?

I heard an interview w/ Mickey (?) from the police force and he said that Israel would have to re-examine their policies when it comes to Arab Israelis and freedom of movement. He reminded BBC interviewer that the person who carried out the attack on the religious school a few months ago was also and Arab Israeli.

This is an indictment of Bush and Rice and all the other "peace" advocates who attempt to sell the fantasy that ordinary Arabs want to live in peace with Israel if Israel will simply "take chances for peace" and concede.

The simple truth is that most want to kill the Jews and destroy Israel and would do so on instinct given an opportunity.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has ordered ministers to examine the possibility of razing the terrorist’s home in East Jerusalem, as well as revoking National Insurance Institute stipends from the terrorist’s family.

Not a bad idea.

re: #15 MJ

Washington Post has it as
"Driver Rams Backhoe Into Jerusalem Bus"

Just a traffice accident I guess.

WTF?

By the way, noticed it was Caterpillar made backhoe.

I guess the Left can stop boycotting Caterpillar now that one of it's tractors was used to kill some some Jews.

Well, the truce was intact till they shot him.

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Are the passing out candy in Gaza yet?

Yes...at the Obama campaign headquarters.

Does this mean moonbats will end their boycott of Caterpillar?

The BBC had a different take on this, at first.

Good on the IDF for stopping a terrorist.

re: #28 MJ

By the way, noticed it was Caterpillar made backhoe.

I guess the Left can stop boycotting Caterpillar now that one of it's tractors was used to kill some some Jews.

You beat me to it.

re: #21 Lawrence Schmerel

I am glad this terrorist is dead. His body should be delivered to his masters, whichever group that may be.

Three groups have claimed responsibility... including Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah), PFLP, and the Galilee Freedom Brigade (Hizbullah front group).

re: #20 Cognito

Good for the IDF fellow. (Man, there's a lot of pistols in that video!)

I was commenting in the other thread about the availability of weapons in Israel. Imagine if American students had guns when a school shooting occured. They could stop the murderer short of whatever the final deathcount inevitably is. That's what happened here.

re: #31 Lee Coller

Does this mean moonbats will end their boycott of Caterpillar?

People don't kill people. Caterpillars kill people.
/

re: #26 Killgore Trout

He should send them all to Gaza, then they can enjoy a Hamas "paradise"

What Do Israel and the US Have in Common with Battered Women?
...A lot more than you might think...

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Are the passing out candy in Gaza yet?

I was wondering that too.

re: #11 nikis-knight

Well, at least he won't be getting out on appeal.

Does an Israeli ID card mean he was a citizen? From what I understand, terrorism by Israeli arabs is pretty rare.

If he was a Jerusalem resident then citizenship is usually his choice.

Many prefer to have the benefit of Israeli citizenship but not the formality so as not be considered a traitor to their people.

re: #28 MJ

By the way, noticed it was Caterpillar made backhoe.

I guess the Left can stop boycotting Caterpillar now that one of it's tractors was used to kill some some Jews.

Great point. In the hands of a Pali, the Caterpillar is a freedom fighter.

//

re: #32 Golem Akbar

thanks for that. was wondering if their initial reaction was less favorable than the linked video [not that i'm blaming you, charles. the bbc is just faster...slime-coating will do that. less friction, you know. just more fiction].

What if the Israelis could not have access to guns?
How many more would have died?
Think about that.
Is that what you want in the US?
That is what the Democrats want.

Here's how the New York Times' paper the IHT headlined the story:

"At least 3 die as man uses earthmover in Jerusalem attack"

Guess he can't be identified as a Palestinian man, can he?

It's a good thing the common Israeli is armed.

re: #28 MJ

By the way, noticed it was Caterpillar made backhoe.

I guess the Left can stop boycotting Caterpillar now that one of it's tractors was used to kill some some Jews.

Caterpillar made front end loader, not a backhoe, nor a bulldozer.

re: #20 Cognito

Good for the IDF fellow. (Man, there's a lot of pistols in that video!)

And Charles, you're apparently a part of the dreaded MSM conspiracy to diminish this attack by calling it a 'bulldozer,' and thereby equating it to Israel's own actions with bulldozers.

It's a Caterpillar front-end loader, with a hydraulic flux capacitor lever widget -- just everyone knows that, man.

(Evil conspirator.)

Quit being an idiot....if you can

re: #32 Golem Akbar

The BBC had a different take on this, at first.

I was going to write something about the BBC- and the British- but wiser to censor myself.

I am always struck by the courage of Israelis when under attack. They face their enemies and kill them. Contrast that with how Palestinians/Muslims fight...with universal dishonor.

Will Islam ever evolve into a civilized religion/culture? Maybe they need a big-bang to jump start them.

re: #32 Golem Akbar

The BBC had a different take on this, at first.

What a crock of bloggy crud.

The BBC's report in the very earliest moments titled it "Israel bulldozer driver shot dead" because that's what happened: A driver in Israel was shot dead. They didn't know anything about him yet.

And as for the wickedy, wickedy, "Jerusalem bulldozer driver shot dead by security," the same applies. It's correct.

And yet "honestreporting.com" uses the supremely dishonest headline, "Caught: BBC's Shocking First Response to Terror Attack."

Caught?

Who's dredging for ratings here, exactly?

re: #43 Carolyn

What if the Israelis could not have access to guns?
How many more would have died?
Think about that.
Is that what you want in the US?
That is what the Democrats want.

It's different in Israel, although you make a good point. In Israel, young people must serve in the armed forces. Then get to take their guns home with them while in the Reserves. We could do that here in the US, but...

re: #43 Carolyn

the gun laws in Israel are very strict, those in Yesha (west bank) are controlled very vigorously. Only those on reserve status (IDF) are allowed to carry a weapon. Ordinary citizens have to be registered and there is a residency requirement as well as other restrictions.

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Just a start.

And watch B'Teslem and the other leftist human rights groups complain that the Israelis are engaging in collective punishment as a result of the latest terror attack.

Once again, the terrorists show that there is no ceasefire - no hudna. They engage in the triangle offense to attack Israel and they all rush to claim responsibility, as if it matters which of the terrorist groups that seek Israel's destruction is responsible. All are responsible.

And Olmert has undermined Israel's security time and time again with half measures and deals that result in only more attacks.

OT: Retired Marine 1 - Armed Robbers 0.

re: #47 Hard Right

Quit being an idiot....if you can

Call me an idiot all you like. Just don't call me wrong.

They're rioting in Gaza right now, fighting Egyptian oppression

Was the terrorist a construction worker who decided that today would be the day he gets his 72 virgins, or did he hijack the front-end loader?

re: #11 nikis-knight

Well, at least he won't be getting out on appeal.

Does an Israeli ID card mean he was a citizen? From what I understand, terrorism by Israeli arabs is pretty rare.

This is understandably very confusing for many people, but, Palestinians are the Arab Muslims who fled during the war and ended up on the wrong side of the line when the new boundaries were drawn. "Israeli Arabs," the oxymoron of the century, are those Muslim Arabs who chose not to flee, and stayed put in Israeli territory, trusting the Israeli promise that they would not be hurt. They were rewarded by being given citizenship. The East Jerusalem Arab Muslims, however, are neither fish nor fowl, being in a category by themselves -- they hold permanent resident cards and having the freedom to roam about Israel.

Terror attacks by Arabs who live inside Israel is relatively uncommon, but is becoming more common. The terrorist who killed the yeshiva boys in March was also from East Jerusalem. Also, don't forget that even if "Israeli Arabs" aren't committing the actual terrorist acts themselves, they are surely aiding the Palestinian enemy by scoping things out, gathering intelligence, and allowing Palis to gain entrance to Israel.

All three groups are the same people, just have different status accoding to Israeli law. Families are divided among these three groups.

i really admire the israeli people. they are so courageous.
they get up every morning and start their day, knowing that at any moment a rocket could crash down on them, a suicide bomber could blow them up, or a bastard could run amuck on a huge earth moving machine and try to crush them.
i'm so glad this monster was shot in the head and stopped. done.

re: #19 Sharmuta

My thoughts exactly. Every time I hear something like this, it just makes me sick.

re: #44 MJ

Here's how the New York Times' paper the IHT headlined the story:

"At least 3 die as man uses earthmover in Jerusalem attack"

Guess he can't be identified as a Palestinian man, can he?

Too many letters, not enough space.

The best news is the pusillanimous Israeli Government will never get the opportunity to succumb and release this POS.

re: #10 jcm

Israeli security forces used disproportional force......
/

Disproportional to a bulldozer?

"Finally, an off-duty soldier took a gun from a security guard at the scene and shot the terrorist, who cried "Allah Akhbar" (God is great) before being killed. The soldier, Moshe Plesser, was assisted in neutralizing the attacker by Eli Mizrahi, a member of police's elite Yasam anti-terror unit."

Now, where have we heard this cry before? But hey, Islam means Peace.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

they're going to raze the terrorist home....
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #62 opinionated

The best news is the pusillanimous Israeli Government will never get the opportunity to succumb and release this POS.

No habeas corpus for you!

Hat tip Key word posted this link with a better quality of the video:

re: #67 Green Helmet Guy

Hat tip Key word posted this link with a better quality of the video:

Terror attack in Jerusalem.

re: #23 Killgore Trout

BTW, Killgore - love the Space Pope avatar!

re: #66 loppyd

No habeas corpus for you!

You think they'll keepus the corpus? I think it will be deportus to Gaza.

re: #61 MandyManners

Awful headline. Proper headline would be:
Palestinian terrorist kills 3; wounds 50+ in Jerusalem rampage

Of course, the manual of "style" would prohibit labeling the terrorist as such, and Israelis must simply die, not be killed (active versus passive voice), etc.

Also amazing how the MSM barely mentions the killed and wounded Israelis but rants and raves on and on about how the Police "shot the (poor/sarc) Palestinian."

HaShem have mercy on this monster's victims.

And I'm glad he was stopped.

Oh no another lawsuit against Caterpillar

re: #15 MJ

Washington Post has it as
"Driver Rams Backhoe Into Jerusalem Bus"

Just a traffice accident I guess.

Really. Just an issue of right-of-way.

Charles,

Carl over at Israel Matzav also has an extensive coverage worthy of mention.

RESISTANCE!

/hurls violently

Didn't look like they had a hard time stopping the guy, once the IDF climbed aboard and shot him. The Pali didn't even lock the door on the front loader.

Proof that justice can be swift and sure.

re: #71 lawhawk

Awful headline. Proper headline would be:
Palestinian terrorist kills 3; wounds 50+ in Jerusalem rampage

Of course, the manual of "style" would prohibit labeling the terrorist as such, and Israelis must simply die, not be killed (active versus passive voice), etc.

Space is a consideration in newsprint but, I don't know how much a consideration it is on the Internet.

Did the BBC know at the time it reported this that the asshole was a Jordyptian?

re: #54 rwmofo

OT: Retired Marine 1 - Armed Robbers 0.

Amazing. The family of the guy doing the armed robbery is whining that he got shot and killed while doing an armed robbery.

Just wow.

re: #54 rwmofo

OT: Retired Marine 1 - Armed Robbers 0.

Family Of Subway Robbery Suspect Says Customer Shouldn't Have Pulled Trigger

Well, "Family" don't raise yo boyz to be hoods.

Here's the graphic version of the video....
Live Footage Of Cop Shooting Bulldozer Driver Ends With Applause From Onlookers.

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Kilgore, I agree. This sounds like a good idea (especially considering the fact that it sounds as if the murderer had terrorist relatives.)

re: #72 Green Helmet Guy

Also amazing how the MSM barely mentions the killed and wounded Israelis but rants and raves on and on about how the Police "shot the (poor/sarc) Palestinian."

Where?

re: #70 OldLineTexan

Recipe for Pali-terrorist rumaki:
wrap in bacon and serve

re: #65 Spider Mensch

they're going to raze the terrorist home....
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

When they're done there, they should move on to Olmert's home since that's apparently the only way Israel will get rid of it's most incompetent PM in it's entire history.

re: #20 Cognito

Good for the IDF fellow. (Man, there's a lot of pistols in that video!)

And Charles, you're apparently a part of the dreaded MSM conspiracy to diminish this attack by calling it a 'bulldozer,' and thereby equating it to Israel's own actions with bulldozers.

It's a Caterpillar front-end loader, with a hydraulic flux capacitor lever widget -- just everyone knows that, man.

(Evil conspirator.)

Off your medication, Cognito, or did you manage to get on the computer in the doctor's office before they caught you and put you back in your cell?

re: #84 TalkinKamel

It would also serve as a deterrent to other people who might be thinking of doing similar things in the future.

re: #82 jcm

I find it depressing---but, sadly, not surprising that the family is carrying on like this. It's all too typical of our legal system these days.

re: #70 OldLineTexan

You think they'll keepus the corpus? I think it will be deportus to Gaza.

LOL

re: #87 MJ

When they're done there, they should move on to Olmert's home since that's apparently the only way Israel will get rid of it's most incompetent PM in it's entire history.

NNNNOOOO I meant to click + how do I undo that down ding?

re: #88 amphibian

Off your medication, Cognito, or did you manage to get on the computer in the doctor's office before they caught you and put you back in your cell?

That was sarcasm, amphibian. A response to very similar, very non-sarcastic comments.

Gee wiz, that policeman didn't seem all that interested in taking the caterpillar driver to trial. That could make a decent training video for our marines, compliments of SCOTUS.

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Yes, yet another good reason for leveling the home, and cutting off the benefits.

Here's the NYT online headline, right now at 11:23 Eastern:

Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack

null

It's always an inanimate object that kills Israelis.

Believe it or not

Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack

N Y Times Front page

re: #32 Golem Akbar

The BBC had a different take on this, at first.

Utterly shameful.

Good that someone caught this disgusting first headline!

re: #95 TalkinKamel

Yes, yet another good reason for leveling the home, and cutting off the benefits.

When you say benefits are we talking welfare?

My very well informed father just came in and had no idea that it was a terror attack.

"They said it was a 'mad man.'

*sigh*

Going to meeting.

re: #76 israellycool

"A soldier on leave took the gun from an elite policeman at the scene and shot the terrorist dead. The soldier, Moshe Klessner, 18, is the brother-in-law of IDF officer David Shapira, who killed the terrorist in the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva attack, Channel 2 reported."

Heroism must run in their family.

Keep this dirtbag's remains hostage until living Israeli hostages are released by Arabs.

re: #90 TalkinKamel

I find it depressing---but, sadly, not surprising that the family is carrying on like this. It's all too typical of our legal system these days.

See the same thing in Seattle all the time, family whines "he's a good boy." In Seattle we've got a report who takes the families' side, whines about "justice."

re: #97 opinionated

Believe it or not

Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack

N Y Times Front page

Now Construction Vehicles are going to demand a State.

re: #96 Zevy

re: #97 opinionated

At least the first paragraph is pretty decent:

The Palestinian driver of a huge, yellow construction vehicle went on a rampage in central Jerusalem Wednesday, ramming several cars and two buses before a police officer clambered onto the careening vehicle and shot him dead, police and witnesses said.
Skip to next paragraph
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The earthmover used in the attack on Wednesday in Jerusalem.
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Marina Passos/Agence France-Presse

Israeli civilians watched as an earthmover drove along Jaffa Road in Jerusalem after ramming and overturning a public bus.

re: #92 rlevitin

dinged him up for you.

18 year soldier.

Would be called a "child" if Palestinian.

WOuld be at the mall if American.

re: #97 opinionated,

But was it an Islamic Construction Vehicle? Those are the most violent Construction Vehicles around.

[/Sheesh]

re: #106 Kefirah

ty

re: #103 jcm

come to texas. we've got our heads screwed on straight.

mostly.

except for creationism.

re: #105 rlevitin

They can't change the facts.

The absurd headline shows their midset.

re: #107 Ben Hur

18 year soldier.

Would be called a "child" if Palestinian.

WOuld be at the mall if American.

They apply dog years to Jews.

re: #96 Zevy

Here's the NYT online headline, right now at 11:23 Eastern:

null

It's always an inanimate object that kills Israelis.

Amazing.

The stampede to blame the media has started even before the actual disaster is fully sorted. That's nasty.

And Zevy, perhaps you only read headlines. But people who bother to dig a little deeper -- that is, not just read the headline -- would see this, from the New York Times:

JERUSALEM — The Palestinian driver of a huge, yellow construction vehicle went on a rampage in central Jerusalem Wednesday, ramming several cars and two buses before a police officer clambered onto the careening vehicle and shot him dead, police and witnesses said.

Officials said at least three people were killed and more than 30 were injured.

re: #97 opinionated

Believe it or not

Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack

N Y Times Front page

Must have been a very high tech vehicle to kill 3 people.....

re: #97 opinionated

Believe it or not

Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack

N Y Times Front page

It turns itself on and drives?

re: #108 Iron Fist

That's Islamophobic! Islamic Construction Vehicles are machines of peace!

/

re: #98 yma o hyd

Utterly shameful.

Good that someone caught this disgusting first headline!

Um, no.

A repost:

What a crock of bloggy crud.

The BBC's report in the very earliest moments titled it "Israel bulldozer driver shot dead" because that's what happened: A driver in Israel was shot dead. They didn't know anything about him yet.

And as for the wickedy, wickedy, "Jerusalem bulldozer driver shot dead by security," the same applies. It's correct.

And yet "honestreporting.com" uses the supremely dishonest headline, "Caught: BBC's Shocking First Response to Terror Attack."

Caught?

Who's dredging for ratings here, exactly?

re: #113 Cognito

i have to respectfully disagree, sir. or ma'am. not sure. you are in cognito...

in any event.

in a day and age where our attention spans run only minutes longer than that of a goldfish, i think that headline writing and headline accuracy are just as important as the meat of an article, since most people don't get past the big, bolded print.

so, sorry. i have a beef with the nytimes and the bbc over this one, too.

re: #107 Ben Hur

18 year soldier.

Would be called a "child" if Palestinian.

WOuld be at the mall if American.

that kid deserves a medal.
think of the lives he saved.

re: #52 cybermonk

of course those on active duty can also.

re: #100 Ben Hur

My very well informed father just came in and had no idea that it was a terror attack.

"They said it was a 'mad man.'

*sigh*

Going to meeting.

If the media around the world would start labelling terrorists as "mad men" instead of heroes, it might start to set people straight as to what is really happening. Imagine calling Islamo-fascists "insane" instead of "freedom fighters."

re: #103 jcm

See the same thing in Seattle all the time, family whines "he's a good boy." In Seattle we've got a report who takes the families' side, whines about "justice."

What's really sick is that we're getting some of the same reporting about the serial killer who was caught downstate in Granite City, IL.

Someone at Yahoo News is going to get fired for truth in this headline:

Palestinian goes on rampage in Jerusalem; 3 killed

Warning: it's a link to an AP story

re: #103 jcm

Yes, "justice" in these cases usually meaning that it would be cruel to do anything at all to these poor offenders, because that's just vengeance, blah, blah, blah.

Our legal system is in a sorry state these days.

re: #114 loppyd,

T-1000 Construction Vehicle. They keep getting more advanced.

re: #113 Cognito

And Zevy, perhaps you only read headlines. But people who bother to dig a little deeper -- that is, not just read the headline -- would see this, from the New York Times:

Don't you think many MSM outlets know that most people don't dig deeper? As you know, headlines can be deceiving.....the MSM knows that and, in many instances, takes full advantage of this.

Note how similiar this headline from Al Jazeera is with the headline from the New York Times:

"Deaths in Israel bulldozer attack" (Al Jazeera )

"Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack" ( New York Times )

re: #125 Iron Fist

,

T-1000 Construction Vehicle. They keep getting more advanced.

That dude always plays a bad guy! Creeeepy.

And Zevy, perhaps you only read headlines. But people who bother to dig a little deeper -- that is, not just read the headline -- would see this, from the New York Times:

But how many people actually read beyond the headlines?

From the JP.

A half-dozen cars were flattened and others were overturned by the Caterpillar vehicle. A bus was also overturned, and another bus was heavily damaged.

The attack, at the junction of Jaffa Road and Sarei Yisrael St., set off a panic in the area and left a large swath of damage in the heart of the capital. Traffic was halted, and hundreds of people fled through the streets in panic as medics treated the wounded.

A car was dragged several meters by the bulldozer before being crushed under the vehicle. The parents of a baby being treated in Sha'arei Tzedek Hospital have yet to be tracked down, and it is believed that the baby was thrown out of the car by one of his parents before the vehicle was crushed

re: #118 Kefirah

i have to respectfully disagree, sir. or ma'am. not sure. you are in cognito...

in any event.

in a day and age where our attention spans run only minutes longer than that of a goldfish, i think that headline writing and headline accuracy are just as important as the meat of an article...

That sounds like a personal problem, to me. Not something you can blame on the media.

If you can't be bothered to read the first sentence of a story -- "just the headline, thanks!" -- then you deserve the information you get.

For some reason I've thought of Mike Mulligan and the Steam Shovel this morning.

re: #113 Cognito

While I think you have a point about people going abit overboard with attacking the MSM, their point is twofold:
1) They are concerned about people who DO NOT delve deeper. There are those who glance through headlines and then put the paper away; they will leave with the wrong impression.

2) There is a precedent for biased media coverage, even if in this case they are jumping the gun a bit with their accusations. As Opinionated points out in comment #111, the headlines reveal the initial mindset that the MSM come to the news with.

And so it begins.

From the HuffPo.

Isn't killing people and destroying communities with bulldozers something that Israel has been doing in Palestine for years? Does President Bush ever make a public statement when Israel kills yet another Palestinian or bulldozes yet another Palestinian home or business? So now we are all supposed to be outraged when a lone Palestinain returns the favor. Please excuse my insensitivity, but I am fed up with the one-sided reporting about anything that involves Israel. The guy who acted today is not to be excused, but he can be understood.
Until the world begins to recognize and seriously condemn the horrendous Israeli oppression of Palestine in order to mainain what is nothing other than a racist state, there will be no peace. Why is this so hard to grasp?
At this point, the world must mute its sympathy and, instead, pressure Israel to refrain from using this brutal incident to justify continued brutal expulsions and oppression (ethnic cleansing, really) of Palestinians in Jerusalem.

and......

Yet again Hamas shoots itself in the foot with a public announcement.
I can accept their spokesman saying that it wasn't them, as they tend to be blamed for most things. But to then add the second half of the statement was foolish, they have no idea why the man in question did what he did, so putting their own spin on it leaves a poor impression.
Hamas needs to learn that creating a better impression with Western opinion is vital if they want to help their cause. Already the media message (as seen above) is that they have ' praised ' the killings. They didn't, but it's an easy charge to make stick.

Nothing over at the DK (yet).

/going to need LOTS of mind bleach today

re: #35 rlevitin

I wonder which group is responsible or if more than one was involved.

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Here's the graphic version of the video....
Live Footage Of Cop Shooting Bulldozer Driver Ends With Applause From Onlookers.

Requires registration. Started to register then thought .. Why the hell do I need to start my day watching a terrorist get shot in the head and the blood spattering everywhere? Didn't go there.

I can be satisfied he got what was coming to him without seeing it, glad the brave young man could stop it before things got worse.

re: #134 Bubblehead II

Those comments will be shut down before noon.

re: #127 MJ

Note how similiar this headline from Al Jazeera is with the headline from the New York Times:

"Deaths in Israel bulldozer attack" (Al Jazeera )

"Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack" ( New York Times )

Run for your lives the Transformers are attacking.

re: #107 Ben Hur

18 year soldier.

Would be called a "child" if Palestinian.

WOuld be at the mall if American.

Have to take issue with you here, Ben Hur. There are plenty of 18 year old Americans in uniform right now fighting these bastards.

re: #126 loppyd

Don't you think many MSM outlets know that most people don't dig deeper? As you know, headlines can be deceiving.....the MSM knows that and, in many instances, takes full advantage of this.

Right. See post 131.

Apparently people have become so tragically illiterate that they can't be held responsible for reading even the first sentence of a story.

Personal responsibility: It used to matter.

re: #85 Cognito

They have changed the headlines of the articles.

here they are as they appear now.

BBC

Deadly Jerusalem bulldozer attack

A Palestinian in a bulldozer targets Jerusalem traffic, killing three people before being shot dead by police.

NYT:
Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack

JERUSALEM — The Palestinian driver of a huge, yellow earthmover went on a rampage in central Jerusalem Wednesday, ramming several cars and two buses before a police officer clambered onto the careening vehicle and shot him dead, police and witnesses said.

CNN
Israeli authorities are investigating why a Palestinian resident of Jerusalem rammed his bulldozer into several cars and buses Wednesday, killing three people before Israeli police shot him dead.

etc...

"Police shot and killed the driver of the bulldozer, who held an Israeli identification card, and who had a criminal record"

Propaganda translation: He was not Palistinian, he was Israeli, this was not politically motivated, it was "criminal" since he had a criminal record.

Leftists and progressives are so in love with the concept of lying when it's "technically not a lie" they forget that nobody buys this technique. You almost get the iimpression that they're spinning reality for themselves alone so they can live in their little dreamworld where the family of man would be one great big hugfest of love if right-wing leaders like George Bush, Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon hadn't ruined the party.

re: #76 israellycool

Charles,

Carl over at Israel Matzav also has an extensive coverage worthy of mention.

Just wanna say thanks, for your blog!

And the comments on the liveleak site, as you said in your blog, are really and truly disgusting.

re: #131 Cognito

personal problem, as in a problem that i have? or a problem that other people have?

a problem that is well-documented. media outlets are well-aware of their demographics, including the depth to which these demographics plunge into the news.

and you seem to think that these people, who don't delve more deeply, "deserve the information that they get."

nu, whatever happened to responsible reporting? you're giving a free pass to irresponsible journalism. how deeply do we have to delve before we find the truth behind carefully phrased political correctness?

again. respectful disagreement.

"Israel Radio reported that a woman started singing in praise of the terrorist when security forces left the home."

How sweet.

re: #93 Cognito

That was sarcasm, amphibian. A response to very similar, very non-sarcastic comments.

It was also stupid, and in poor taste. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

re: #140 Cognito

see? you point out personal responsibility. don't the media outlets have some responsibility, too?

just a thought.

re: #122 Honorary Yooper

What's really sick is that we're getting some of the same reporting about the serial killer who was caught downstate in Granite City, IL.

"He's been in trouble many times over the years, but something like this, yeah, it's out of character," Joe Sheley said. "He's got a temper like anybody else. Just doesn't want to be messed with. Won't back down. But to go looking for a fight, looking for trouble, no."

He'd been in prison for aggravated robbery. If that'a not looking for trouble, I don't know what is.

re: #104 opinionated

That's right! Construction vehicles are going to demand their own state because their olive trees are being oppressed. .. um, something like that.

Seriously, that headline is hilarious! Yeah, you gotta watch out for those road raging construction vehicles, just going nuts and attacking people! Happens all the time.

P.S. Cognito, do you work for the New York Times?

re: #133 rlevitin

While I think you have a point about people going abit overboard with attacking the MSM, their point is twofold:
1) They are concerned about people who DO NOT delve deeper. There are those who glance through headlines and then put the paper away; they will leave with the wrong impression.

Then they read as children read, and they deserve what they get.

2) There is a precedent for biased media coverage, even if in this case they are jumping the gun a bit with their accusations. As Opinionated points out in comment #111, the headlines reveal the initial mindset that the MSM come to the news with.

This is getting a bit sad.

Read the story, guys. Not just the headline.

re: #126 loppyd

Don't you think many MSM outlets know that most people don't dig deeper? As you know, headlines can be deceiving.....the MSM knows that and, in many instances, takes full advantage of this.

Wasting your time. He doesn't know the truth and isn't capable of seeing it. Must be a media drone.

re: #129 Zevy

But how many people actually read beyond the headlines?

And why does the 'headline' not address the most important aspect of the story- that it was a deliberate attack. Isn't a 'headline' supposed to do that?

re: #85 Cognito

[Link: honestreporting.com...]

re: #140 Cognito

Right. See post 131.

Apparently people have become so tragically illiterate that they can't be held responsible for reading even the first sentence of a story.

Personal responsibility: It used to matter.

I am not saying that I agree with this behavior, but it's a reality and headlines are manipulated accordingly.

re: #127 MJ

Note how similiar this headline from Al Jazeera is with the headline from the New York Times:

"Deaths in Israel bulldozer attack" (Al Jazeera )

"Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack" ( New York Times )

"A construction vehicle kills...." See - It wasn't the precious Palestinian inside driving the construction vehicle - it was the vehicle itself that did the killing. How NYT.

The media bias in covering this deadly terrorist attack is par for the course.

The purpose of writing a headline is to get people to read and inform with the key information. Inanimate objects did not murder those Israelis. Those Israelis didn't simply die because a truck became animated like some Stephen King creation. A Palestinian terrorist purposefully drove the front end loader with the intent to murder as many Israelis as possible.

The media's headlines by and large treat the deaths as little more than a result of a truck doing the damage - not the work of a Palestinian terrorist. A horrible accident rather than a major terrorist attack that it was.

And it's far from the first time either. Recall the same thing happened when the Palestinian terrorist shot up the Yeshiva in Jerusalem some months back.

The media regularly treats Israeli dead in a passive voice, and saves the active voice for reporting Israeli actions to defend itself from attack.

Israelis died today, but Israeli security killed the Palestinian driving the vehicle.

re: #128 loppyd

That dude always plays a bad guy! Creeeepy.

Robert Patrick played John Doggett in the X-Files, & plays the Colonel in The Unit. He might be a hard-ass & is having an affair with one of his soldier's wives, but he's not a villain.

re: #156 lawhawk

thank you. far more eloquently written than i can manage right now. oil&gas law? anyone?

re: #157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Robert Patrick played John Doggett in the X-Files, & plays the Colonel in The Unit. He might be a hard-ass & is having an affair with one of his soldier's wives, but he's not a villain.

Never watched either show....

re: #101 laZardo
" took the gun from an elite policeman..." WTH was the "elite policeman doing - just standing there?!

re: #144 Kefirah

personal problem, as in a problem that i have? or a problem that other people have?

a problem that is well-documented. media outlets are well-aware of their demographics, including the depth to which these demographics plunge into the news.

and you seem to think that these people, who don't delve more deeply, "deserve the information that they get."

nu, whatever happened to responsible reporting? you're giving a free pass to irresponsible journalism. how deeply do we have to delve before we find the truth behind carefully phrased political correctness?

again. respectful disagreement.

It's only your personal problem if you're reading as you described -- just the headline, not the first sentence. Much less anything beyond.

And repsonsible reporting -- which you find in the very first sentence of the story -- doesn't do any good without responsible reading. Which doesn't require much beyond... reading.

re: #113 Cognito

Many simply skim headlines - some only the lede. Fewer read through to the end of a story, where reporters and editors often hide the juiciest bits.

If you read only the headlines, you'd be ill informed, yet that's what most people do. And the editors know how to manipulate headlines.

That's where the media bias creeps in.

re: #149 TalkinKamel

P.S. Cognito, do you work for the New York Times?

Oh come on, that's a low blow!

re: #153 Green Helmet Guy

[Link: honestreporting.com...]

Another link to this tripe.

And so another repost:

What a crock of bloggy crud.

The BBC's report in the very earliest moments titled it "Israel bulldozer driver shot dead" because that's what happened: A driver in Israel was shot dead. They didn't know anything about him yet.

And as for the wickedy, wickedy, "Jerusalem bulldozer driver shot dead by security," the same applies. It's correct.

And yet "honestreporting.com" uses the supremely dishonest headline, "Caught: BBC's Shocking First Response to Terror Attack."

Caught?

Who's dredging for ratings here, exactly?

re: #163 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Oh come on, that's a low blow!

The way he mindlessly defends the media, it's a reasonable question.

re: #134 Bubblehead II

The Koskidz think it's funny...
Ban the Bulldozers

It is quite obvious, to all you liburals with a brain, that heavy construction equipment is now, much as airliners were before, the choice of terrorists everywhere, under the guidance of Usama bin Laden, to attack and kill with.

I am recommending to my Senators, Richard Lugar of Indiana and Evan Bayh, today, that from this point forward, all operators of heavy machinery (including earth-moving equipment, cranes, concrete mixers - and up to and including tractor-tailer rigs) be required by law to take psych exams and then loyalty oaths to the Homeland before they can work.
...
It is my hope that, god willing, we and the people who govern this great nation can, if we act swiftly, avoid more loss of life and the destruction that awaits us if more terrorists take our own machines, which god helped us develop to tame this wild and bountiful land of ours, and turn them against it.

Please vote Republican this November. The fate of our great nation and the world depend on you.

In the higher-quality vids which show the actual shooting you can make out the terrorist driver shouting "allah ackbar!" before his rampage is ended by a brave Israeli serviceman...

Did that machine have a human accomplice?

I pray that someday Jews and Construction Vehicles will live in peace.
re: #150 Cognito

This is getting a bit sad.

Read the story, guys. Not just the headline.

The issue is not the story. The facts of the story are absolute.

What on Earth justifies the absurd headline(s) except the usual bias to always play down the barbarism of those animals.

re: #159 loppyd

Never watched either show....

Most folks don't like his run on The X-Files, but I liked it. And why aren't you watching The Unit? It's about terrorist-hunting SF types.

re: #14 rlevitin

This soldier happens to be the brother in law of the man who stopped the Yeshivah terrorist in March.

Does he have any unmarried sisters? That sounds like a good family to marry into.

(I'd have to convert though...)

re: #134 Bubblehead II

Well, of course it begins, and of course it begins at the Huffpo, the blog site of Baroness Arianna-she-who-must-be-obeyed!

Anti-semitism is au courant these days, didn't you know? Especially among the circles of the progressive and enlightened, such as her royal highness Arianna. So just mute your sympathy for the victims (after all, they're just Jews, right?) and get into full blubber/boo-hoo mode for the poor Palestinians, the uber victims of the world, who have no choice to fight for freedom other than trying to run down babies with bulldozers. (It was probably all the fault of that violent construction vehicle, anyway!)

P.S. Anyone wanna make any bets as to when Huffpo shuts down the comments on that thread?

Hey! Where are all of the St. Pancake advocates to scream at Catepillar about this latest infraction?....

(crickets)

hypocrits!

re: #144 Kefirah

Misleading headlines used to be wrong.

re: #160 realwest

" took the gun from an elite policeman..." WTH was the "elite policeman doing - just standing there?!

I was wondering the same thing... I think it has to do with some sort of Rules of Engagement problem. (Someone mmentioned this earlier).... I've yet to see a proper explanation.

re: #168 Peacekeeper

Did that machine have a human accomplice?

P to the K!

Way too long.

Hope all is well!

re: #166 Killgore Trout

The Koskidz think it's funny...
Ban the Bulldozers

The Kos Kidz are assholes, IMHO.

Quoted comment by hayton69: From LiveLeak.com
They didn't actually have to shoot him. If this had happened in Britain it would not be deemed reasonable force. Was he armed? They could of wrestled him off the controls and overpowered him. In Israel life is cheap.

Typical Response from Loony Lefty.

A Madman Driving A Multi Ton Front End Loader, That He Had Already Used to Kill 3 People, Wasn't Armed..... According To The Loony Leftoid

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Most folks don't like his run on The X-Files, but I liked it. And why aren't you watching The Unit? It's about terrorist-hunting SF types.

Because it's the brain child of a loon. Granted that loon was one hell of a soldier, but a loon all the same. He believes in the tri-lateral commission, bildergerger stuff...

Unbelievable.

At least three people die -- and scores injured -- but the best many people here can muster is a simpering criticism of the news reports. Or hardly the news reports actually -- the reports are fine -- rather it's the headlines that have distracted people.

Fantastic.

re: #131 Cognito
Respectfully, why can't the MSM get the headline correct in the first place? And please don't tell me it was correct when the story that follows it does in fact state the truth.

re: #174 debutaunt

a lot of things used to be wrong. welcome to the age of moral relativism, i guess.

re: #176 loppyd

Just one of those phases. You know?

re: #113 Cognito

Sorry, Cognito, I'm not buying it. Headlines should tell it like it is. Headlines should capture the truth and the essence of a story in a few words. A construction vehicle didn't kill the Jews -- what is this, a Dennis Weaver movie?

re: #172 TalkinKamel

P.S. Anyone wanna make any bets as to when Huffpo shuts down the comments on that thread?

I called 12 noon in comment #137

re: #21 Lawrence Schmerel

I am glad this terrorist is dead. His body should be delivered to his masters, whichever group that may be.

Cremated and mixed with a can of SPAM.

/sarc

re: #165 Hard Right

The way he mindlessly defends the media, it's a reasonable question.

Again, that's fine: Call me mindless. Just don't call me wrong.

look at the uncensored version of the film and note the policeman in the helmet who climbs up to the cabin and pumps a few more bullets in to confirm the kill. In Israel there is no such thing as a wounded terrorist.
By the way the gun laws in Israel are much more strict than in the states. If you don't need a pistol for work or live near a border you can't get a pistol license.

re: #164 Cognito

The BBC's report in the very earliest moments titled it "Israel bulldozer driver shot dead" because that's what happened: A driver in Israel was shot dead. They didn't know anything about him yet.

You have got to be kidding.

I'm pretty sure they knew he had rammed a frontloader again and again into a busload of people, doncha think?

re: #187 Cognito

Again, that's fine: Call me mindless. Just don't call me wrong.

You are both. Mindless and wrong. That's being kind.

Lunch/Rush time.

BBL

"Construction Vehicle Kills 3"

Isn't that a tagline from the movie, Killdozer?

'Islamic terrorist in bulldozer rampage, kills 3 Israelis, wounds dozens.'

Better.

re: #189 Occasional Reader

You have got to be kidding.

I'm pretty sure they knew he had rammed a frontloader again and again into a busload of people, doncha think?

Read again.

The criticism is that the BBC didn't call him a Palestinian, even in those first moments.

re: #117 Cognito

Oh Bullshit! The BBC reporter was on the scene -- he witnessed the whole damned thing. He knew very well that it was an Arab terrorist.

re: #117 Cognito

Ahem - you didn't see then that this happened right in front of the israeli Television Centre, where e.g. the Beeb also has their office, and where the reporter is based?

This, as the later report, came directly from the site, it was not something done up at home in London.
Thats why its shameful; that reporters, who are supposed to report the facts, give them a certain twist, even though tis happenning in front of their eyes.

Internalised censorship, I'd say, or 'scissors in the head'.

re: #180 Cognito

Stop making a fool of yourself.

Most of the world doesn't follow exactly what is going on.

If someone visits the NY Times, or other sources, and sees this absurd headline, they would not even bother clicking on the story, assuming there was some construction accident.

re: #180 Cognito

Hey Cog thanks for the hand on the Bash the Believers thread last night....

190 some posts about a bulldozer and nobody mentioned Rachel Corrie

surprising

re: #190 Hard Right

You are both. Mindless and wrong. That's being kind.

Ah. And where, exactly, am I wrong?

Be specific and quote, if you don't mind.

re: #194 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Oh Bullshit! The BBC reporter was on the scene -- he witnessed the whole damned thing. He knew very well that it was an Arab terrorist.

Right.

re: #178 The_Pickle

Quoted comment by hayton69: From LiveLeak.com
They didn't actually have to shoot him. If this had happened in Britain it would not be deemed reasonable force. Was he armed? They could of wrestled him off the controls and overpowered him. In Israel life is cheap.

Typical Response from Loony Lefty.

A Madman Driving A Multi Ton Front End Loader, That He Had Already Used to Kill 3 People, Wasn't Armed..... According To The Loony Leftoid

He was armed, he shot a police officer.

Any new mybarackobama blogs springing up on this story? No doubt. btw, isn't today near the anniversary of Entebbe?

The Jews must learn they cannot be Jews forever. MSM

re: #134 Bubblehead II

So, come on, world! Mute your sympathy for those no-good Israelis and join the in-crowd! Anti-semetism! It's the new basic black (and Manolo Blahniks!) among us smart progressive types! We're Arianna's in-crowd, and we're so great we should run the world! If you don't agree with us, you're probably not muting your sympathy sufficiently! Really, everyvody knows the Palestinians are the only victimized people on earth!

(Our comments on HuffPo will be shut down by noon, if not sooner.)

re: #156 lawhawk
Just an excellent post my friend. Wish I could give you a hundred updings for that.
Thank you.

Tre: #193 Cognito

Read again.

The criticism is that the BBC didn't call him a Palestinian, even in those first moments.

The criticism is mostly about the headline having to do with the driver being "shot dead" (by evil Israelis, naturally), not about WHAT THE DRIVER WAS DOING AT THE TIME.

It's amazing watching you contort into these logic pretzels. Really.

re: #127 MJ

Note how similiar this headline from Al Jazeera is with the headline from the New York Times:

"Deaths in Israel bulldozer attack" (Al Jazeera )

"Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack" ( New York Times )

Interesting ... does the NYT have a roaring trade in Arab countries, then?

re: #180 Cognito

i think a number of us here have expressed condolences for the families.

the frustration directed at the media, at least for me, is a result of the fact that while we, HERE, have dug up the truth of the matter [people dead, injured because of a terrorist attack perpetrated by a man who lived within israel's borders and who used a front-loading piece of HEAVY construction equipment], most wouldn't bother.

and they get the headlines. only. and maybe some chatter from a talking head.

and they won't dig more deeply

and the cycle of ignorance continues. who to blame? people, certainly. but the media has a responsibility too. or are you absolving them of that?

re: #180 Cognito

Unbelievable.

At least three people die -- and scores injured -- but the best many people here can muster is a simpering criticism of the news reports. Or hardly the news reports actually -- the reports are fine -- rather it's the headlines that have distracted people.

Fantastic.

Cog, while you were sleeping, we were already having a long and active conversation on the open thread, where this tragedy was first announced, so it's hardly a case of everyone focusing solely on the media inaccuracies. Get your facts straight, if you can.

re: #28 MJ

By the way, noticed it was Caterpillar made backhoe.

I guess the Left can stop boycotting Caterpillar now that one of it's tractors was used to kill some some Jews.

Letters of congratulations are being mailed even now.

re: #49 reno911

I am always struck by the courage of Israelis when under attack. They face their enemies and kill them. Contrast that with how Palestinians/Muslims fight...with universal dishonor.

Will Islam ever evolve into a civilized religion/culture? Maybe they need a big-bang to jump start them.

They need to renounce that appallingly bad example of a false prophet of theirs. With pretty much means no.

re: #180 Cognito

Actually, Cogs, you're the one who disregarded the deaths and injuries to start quibbling about how we were being unfair to the poor old media again.

If you actually read the thread, instead of hunting for negative MSM comments, you'd see there's a lot of indignation over this attack.

Hey man, nice shot!

Paging Rachel Cory, your bulldozer is double parked.

re: #177 Honorary Yooper "The Kos Kidz are still assholes."
There, fixed that for you!

re: #199 Cognito

Ah. And where, exactly, am I wrong?

Be specific and quote, if you don't mind.

So you haven't read any of the other threads?
Seeing as how everyone here has already shown you to be debliberately blind, I see no reason to.

re: #136 turn

I am not registered and can view anything on Live Leak...

re: #180 Cognito

Unbelievable.

At least three people die -- and scores injured -- but the best many people here can muster is a simpering criticism of the news reports. Or hardly the news reports actually -- the reports are fine -- rather it's the headlines that have distracted people.

Fantastic.

OK, I'll dig down really deep in the exhaustive reporting over at Al Jazeera and see what new information I can bring back to LFG.

/

Seriously though, the MSM bias toward the Palestinian cause (Israels destruction) is undeniable.

re: #51 Golem Akbar

It's different in Israel, although you make a good point. In Israel, young people must serve in the armed forces. Then get to take their guns home with them while in the Reserves. We could do that here in the US, but...

That would be a bad thing for many freelance democrats, and the elected ones too.

re: #198 Shug

190 some posts about a bulldozer and nobody mentioned Rachel Corrie

surprising

She was mentioned in the previous thread. Someone said that the idea of the MSM calling the front-loader a bulldozer may be a MSM conspiracy to recall Rachel Corrie and create a type of equivalence. That is what started this debate with Cognito.

re: #208 Kefirah

i think a number of us here have expressed condolences for the families.

the frustration directed at the media, at least for me, is a result of the fact that while we, HERE, have dug up the truth of the matter [people dead, injured because of a terrorist attack perpetrated by a man who lived within israel's borders and who used a front-loading piece of HEAVY construction equipment], most wouldn't bother.

and they get the headlines. only. and maybe some chatter from a talking head.

and they won't dig more deeply

and the cycle of ignorance continues. who to blame? people, certainly. but the media has a responsibility too. or are you absolving them of that?

Really? You "dug up" the truth of this story?

re: #216 Hard Right

So you haven't read any of the other threads?
Seeing as how everyone here has already shown you to be debliberately blind, I see no reason to.

I figured as much.

re: #140 Cognito

Right. See post 131.

Apparently people have become so tragically illiterate that they can't be held responsible for reading even the first sentence of a story.

Personal responsibility: It used to matter.

They vote. They go off and do DIY antisemitism of their own. It is their own problem that they have short attention spans and are easily led, but everyone's problem if the people who are leading them, are leading them in certain directions.

re: #209 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Cog, while you were sleeping, we were already having a long and active conversation on the open thread, where this tragedy was first announced, so it's hardly a case of everyone focusing solely on the media inaccuracies. Get your facts straight, if you can.

Right-o.

re: #49 reno911

I am always struck by the courage of Israelis when under attack. They face their enemies and kill them. Contrast that with how Palestinians/Muslims fight...with universal dishonor.

Will Islam ever evolve into a civilized religion/culture? Maybe they need a big-bang to jump start them.

Nuclear or conventional big bang?

re: #196 Opinionated

Stop making a fool of yourself.

Most of the world doesn't follow exactly what is going on.

If someone visits the NY Times, or other sources, and sees this absurd headline, they would not even bother clicking on the story, assuming there was some construction accident.

Mystery headlines. Click here for a surprise story unrelated to the headline.

re: #49 reno911

I am always struck by the courage of Israelis when under attack. They face their enemies and kill them. Contrast that with how Palestinians/Muslims fight...with universal dishonor.

Sadly, it contrasts with many in the West, too, who would run from danger and wait for the government to do something. In that regard, one of the most encouraging things that happened on and just after 9/11 was the counterexample of people who ran TOWARD the devastation, to see if they could help.

re: #212 TalkinKamel

Actually, Cogs, you're the one who disregarded the deaths and injuries to start quibbling about how we were being unfair to the poor old media again.
If you actually read the thread, instead of hunting for negative MSM comments, you'd see there's a lot of indignation over this attack.

You want some indignation?
How about this:
"Israel Radio reported that a woman started singing in praise of the terrorist when security forces left the home."

re: #221 Cognito

dug up meaning checked numerous media outlets, watched video provided both by charles and by israel matzav...

yes. i would qualify that as civilian "digging up." notice that you did not address the meat of my argument, and instead questioned my "digging up" of the facts.

ad hominem won't get you anywhere, love.

re: #32 Golem Akbar

re: #32 Golem Akbar

The BBC had a different take on this, at first.

That really deserves a thread of it's own.

Just disgusting.

re: #127 MJ

Note how similiar this headline from Al Jazeera is with the headline from the New York Times:

"Deaths in Israel bulldozer attack" (Al Jazeera )

"Construction Vehicle Kills 3 in Israel Attack" ( New York Times )

See the WHOLE POINT of those headlines is to make readers think that Israel was doing the attacking.

"Deaths in Israel bulldozer attack" (Al Jazeera )

Perfect example of journalistic ambiguity. They really are the scum of the earth.

Someone glances over that headline (or sees it an equivalent sidebar to those here at LGF), they immediately a imagine an Israeli bulldozer knocking down "Palestinians."

re: #229 Kefirah

dug up meaning checked numerous media outlets, watched video provided both by charles and by israel matzav...

yes. i would qualify that as civilian "digging up." notice that you did not address the meat of my argument, and instead questioned my "digging up" of the facts.

ad hominem won't get you anywhere, love.

Ah, thanks "love."

And thanks for all the hard work you put into this story, unearthing the truth and all.

re: #173 paxnhymn

Hey! Where are all of the St. Pancake advocates to scream at Catepillar about this latest infraction?....

(crickets)

hypocrits!

Kill Jews with one? Good...let an idiot terrorist loving American be in the wrong place, and not visible to the driver?

'Kill the Jews'.

More Jew hate that hypocrisy, IMHO.

re: #24 loppyd

Resident(blue card) not citizen. There's a difference in restricting the privileges of residents, legal or otherwise and in abridging the rights of citizens.

Koskids analyze the situation:

not to excuse this act (1+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
esquimaux

but israel is now discussing in the knesset expelling arab perps AND their families from israel/palestine for 'acts' of terrorism -- this is a red line that if crossed will doom the peace process. ethnic cleansing is not the way forward. these terrorist acts are no more than desperate actions of an oppressed people who see little hope and act out against their perceived oppressors with anything at their disposals. its a horrible situation and really depressing for all concerned.

free palestine now!

by patches the cat on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:22:21 AM PDT

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At this point its not about helping (0+ / 0-)

... its about doing the only thing they know how to do and that's fight. If you or I are ever pushed into a situation like the Palestinians we will most likely be doing the same thing because when backed into a corner and fighting is all you got, then that's all you'll do.

by Larry Madill on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:35:31 AM PDT

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listening to the BBC this morning (0+ / 0-)

They interviewed an individual who seemed to be a spokesperson for the Israeli police and the individual repeatedly referred to the Palestinian man as "the terrorist." The interviewer asked if the authorities had any reason to know the gentleman was a terrorist and after a little circular talking, the interviewee admitted they had no such proof and at that time were only investigating as though this were a solitary act. Just thougt it was interesting. I suppose since his action was one of terror, he could be a terrorist, but in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the word terrorist has a different meaning. Or at least it does to me.

by urbanbluegrass on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 08:19:27 AM PDT

re: #233 Cognito

Ah, thanks "love."

And thanks for all the hard work you put into this story, unearthing the truth and all.

You're just being an asshole now. That's all.

More from Moshe Plesser, the off-duty soldier who shot and killed the scum who drove the bulldozer:

As he began running towards the bulldozer, Plesser said that he shouted out to onlookers for a gun. Together with another civilian, Plesser climbed aboard the bulldozer and began wrestling with the driver.

"At one point he [the driver] yelled out “Allah Akhbar” [God is great] and stepped on the gas pedal,” Plesser recalled. “I drew the weapon of the civilian who was with me and shot the driver three times in the head. I think I did what is expected from every soldier and citizen.” Seconds later, a police officer, Eli Mizrahi, climbed aboard the bulldozer and shot the terrorist again, killing him.

Plesser said that his brother-in-law David’s heroic conduct in March served as a role model. Shapira, who lives across the street from Mercaz Harav, heard the late-night shooting, ran into the building where two police officers were standing, took one of their caps and ran inside and shot the terrorist.

“I thank God who gave me and my brother-in-law the strength to do what we did,” he said, adding that his education in national-religious institutions and training in the elite Egoz unit served as the basis for his courageous conduct.

From Israellycool

I have a favorite restaurant in Jerusalem. A non tourist place.

I was visiting Israel often early in the decade and as the terrorism became more intense at each visit I noticed more and more security at this place. Where finally, where it was completely open previously, there was a closed glass door and you had be be buzzed in.

All well and good, until I realized for the first time that almost all entire staff was Arab.

The danger is acute, thinking about is condemned as racist.

re: #220 rlevitin

She was mentioned in the previous thread. Someone said that the idea of the MSM calling the front-loader a bulldozer may be a MSM conspiracy to recall Rachel Corrie and create a type of equivalence. That is what started this debate with Cognito.

Rings a bell. LOL.

There is an unidentified injured infant in the hospital, it is believed the mother pushed her baby out of the way seconds before she was crushed to death in her car.

re: #233 Cognito

again with the ad hominem and sarcasm.

thanks for playing!

has any recognized terrorist group claimed "credit" for this one, yet? or is it still the same group that claimed the mercaz massacre before hamas did?

re: #180 Cognito

Unbelievable.

At least three people die -- and scores injured -- but the best many people here can muster is a simpering criticism of the news reports. Or hardly the news reports actually -- the reports are fine -- rather it's the headlines that have distracted people.

Fantastic.

Sorry if you find this unbelievable.
This is not, afaik, a blog about lamenting the dead.
This is about the usual biased reporting in the MSM.
Others have alaysed this above very well indeed, there is nothing I can add to that.

But I really am sorry if you think that lamenting the dead should come before anybody here is allowed to attempt to come to grips with 'rampant bulldozer'- headlines etc.

Meanwhile, in the "don't worry, the UN is on the job" files:

UN troops in Lebanon forced to delete images of covert cables

Soldiers of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) were forced by local Lebanese residents to delete photos of suspicious-looking underground cables, according a report submitted by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon.

The incident constitutes the second time in recent months that the work of the peacekeeping force has been restricted because of pressures from local residents - this in strict violation of UN Resolution 1701, which ended the 2006 Second Lebanon War that brought the UNIFIL forces to south Lebanon.

cognito

You might just consider that a number of lizards are either Israeli or Jewish and that possibly members of their families were affected by this murderer or that this murderer brings back unpleasant memories of a similar attack on their loved ones.

So stop being such an a**hole.

And yeah, I'll risk my post being deleted to say it straight to your face.

re: #241 Alouette

There is an unidentified injured infant in the hospital, it is believed the mother pushed her baby out of the way seconds before she was crushed to death in her car.

Good God.

And sweets will be passed out to celebrate this triumph, of course.

More Koskidz....
Rampage in Jerusalem

Today a resident of East Jerusalem plowed a bulldozer into the crowed streets of Jerusalem. This incident caused 3 deaths and over 30 injuries to bystanders.
...
This act can do nothing but hurt the peace process from a government and social standpoint. If this peace were to really work acts likes these and similar acts committed by the IDF will have to cease. These acts should be condemned as wrong and a form terrorism and not a form of resistance and stand against oppression.

Komment....

Resistance to Occupation (0+ / 0-)

Isn't always pretty or measured or tactical. Sometimes it is just ugly and desperate plea for someone to actually DO SOMETHING. Look at what happened in Algeria during the French occupation.

It's easy to say both sides should stop it, but when one side has nothing left to live for except to fight in anyway it can, saying STOP IT and then spouting Platitudes about Peace is easier said than done.

re: #54 rwmofo

OT: Retired Marine 1 - Armed Robbers 0.

Grandma looks like she could rip somebody's lungs out. Yeesh.

re: #164 Cognito

The BBC's report in the very earliest moments titled it "Israel bulldozer driver shot dead" because that's what happened: A driver in Israel was shot dead. They didn't know anything about him yet.

You freaking moron, the BBC reporter was on the scene and viewed it all from his window!

You deserve 1,000 dingdowns for this stupidity.

Here is how France2 and Charles Enderlin and the rest of the lunatic left media will, or would like to report it:

An impoverished Palestinain day laboror, father of two, was murdered by being shot in the head, point blank by an armed Israeli settler, to the cheers of an enraged Jewish mob, after being attacked by two Israeli buses and various Jewish vehicles in occupied East Jerusalem. The palestinian man, Awaf Husseini, was a day labourer at a construction site for an Israeli Settlement, in violation of international law, and prior Israeli agreements.

According to former Israeli MK Baraki, now living in Lebanon, "A Palestinian cannot even work to earn his daily wage, which is less than that earned by a Jewish citizen, without the fear of violence and death from the Israeli Army, or settlers."

An Israeli government spokesperson said the government was investigating the incident.

re: #145 sparrowlake

How sweet.

A death culture. They cannot be reasoned with. Only crushed. Utterly and totally obliterated.

re: #169 Opinionated

I pray that someday Jews and Construction Vehicles will live in peace.

The issue is not the story. The facts of the story are absolute.

What on Earth justifies the absurd headline(s) except the usual bias to always play down the barbarism of those animals.

Oh gosh, I almost spit my juice out, that was so funny! Yes, I, too, pray for peace between Jews and construction vehicles . . .

re: #245 Irene NYC

cognito

You might just consider that a number of lizards are either Israeli or Jewish and that possibly members of their families were affected by this murderer or that this murderer brings back unpleasant memories of a similar attack on their loved ones.

So stop being such an a**hole.

And yeah, I'll risk my post being deleted to say it straight to your face.

My good friends boyfriend is in Jerusalem volunteering with Megan David Adom (Israeli Red-Cross)... I called her up right after hearing the news... I should have known she'd had heard from him already. He called her at 5am (Eastern time) and told her he was fine, and was on the way to the scene.

Headline from 9/12/01: "18 Arabs Killed in Airline Crashes"

Cognito: Hey, the headline is "true"! What's the problem?

re: #228 sparrowlake

Ah, the brave jihadis!

Bravely fighting against. . babies.

/If anyone says I need I tag, I'm going to scream!

re: #229 Kefirah

Here is the coverage from Israel Matzav...

re: #256 NY Nana

been reading. never read israel matzav before. thorough.

re: #250 martinleaf

. . . . And, what's more, that baby who was thrown from the car was probably just asking for it!

(Besides, this was a Palestinian---a PALESTINIAN! A member of the most suffering people on the planet! So mute your sympathy for those (*(*&&^^ Jews, get out your hankies and start blubbering for Palestine!)

Yeah, we all know the drill.

re: #202 vagabond trader

Any new mybarackobama blogs springing up on this story? No doubt. btw, isn't today near the anniversary of Entebbe?

My.Barackobama.com does not have a search function. Maybe they used to have one, but removed it because too many Lizards were using it to find stuff the BO gang wants kept hidden.

July 4 is the anniversary of Entebbe.