Ask Alexis Ginnoulias and Tony Rezko how he got that sweetheart deal.

Duuuude! That's a bitchin' real estate deal!

He HOPES to CHANGE his resume from "community organizer" to "country destroyer" by being President, and he'll use backdoor Soros money and anything else he can wangle to do it, just like any Clinton.

Final re-post, I promise:
One last time, calling out in desperation to The Shadow Do, need your address to send your cookies. Shipping today to Panhandler and the other person who did not give nic in their request. Will email you with the shipping cost (your only cost!). If anyone sees Shadow, please pass this on, as I can't seem to get Shadow's attention! Hope all is okay there...

A messianic loan.

I got nothing...

And lunchtime is over.

At least he didn't get an ARM. Then the nanny state would have to bail him out.

He's got that protective D after his name, so let's MoveOn.

If he Dodd, and Conrad were Republicans, we'd already be in Week 2 of the Congresional hearings with Henry 'Nostrilitus' Waxman.

“The Obamas have since had as much as $3 million invested through Northern Trust,”

3 MILLION BUCKS! Where the heck are they getting all that money? Here in the worst country in the world where things are so uneven to the poor guy.... Does Michele know she's got all that money?

Won't matter - people will just applaud his brilliant financial savvy.

Meanwhile, the bitter, clingy class actually WORKING to keep their home and hearth.Obama's=pos elitists

5.625% pfft, I got 4.8% for 15 years.
/

I wonder who the "other lender" was and if they actually intended to make BO a loan or if they were just providing him with a bargaining chip- ie "I have a better offer..."

now why should he not get a great deal? i am actually surprised the interest was not lower. i mean how can you charge the messiah that much interest?

must have been a "zionist" bank

Is this Clinton's holdback coming to the fore?

Forget Obama, here's Osama!

(linked from Drudge)
MSM Idiocy of the Week
[Link: www.time.com...]
Is Osama bin Laden Dying ... Again?
Monday, Jun. 30, 2008 By MASSIMO CALABRESI / WASHINGTON

Which is closer to dying: Osama bin Laden or the CIA's effort to catch him? Nothing has characterized the fruitlessness of the hunt for the al-Qaeda leader so much as the recurrent — and mostly inaccurate — reports that he is seriously ailing, or even at death's door. In 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said bin Laden had kidney disease, and that he had required a dialysis machine when he lived in Afghanistan. That same year, the FBI's top counterterrorism official, Dale Watson, said, "I personally think he is probably not with us anymore." Since then, of course, bin Laden has appeared on multiple videos looking healthier than ever.

Idiot. Moron. We have heard what we are told is Osama's voice, but NEVER seen new pictures of him since 2002. Time freaking Magazine.

Un
be
liev
able

re: #12 jcm

5.625% pfft, I got 4.8% for 15 years.
/

I paid cash for mine ;^P

re: #16 itellu3times

Forget Obama, here's Osama!

(linked from Drudge)
MSM Idiocy of the Week
[Link: www.time.com...]
Is Osama bin Laden Dying ... Again?
Monday, Jun. 30, 2008 By MASSIMO CALABRESI / WASHINGTON

Idiot. Moron. We have heard what we are told is Osama's voice, but NEVER seen new pictures of him since 2002. Time freaking Magazine.

Un
be
liev
able

This guys got more lives than Snake Pliskin.

Outrageous, he's just another cheating politician, like his veep Vetter Jim Johnson and fellow dem presidential candidates Chris Dodd, and Sen. Kent Conrad--sweetheart deals for them, bigger taxes for us.

While we TAXPAYERs will shell out $300 Billion dollars to bail out these mortgage cheaters who gave mostly dem politicians breaks.

I brought up the 3 million in the last thread.

MO is out there crying about trying to afford dance class!

Mortgages hit Americans were they live -- literally. This story will have legs.

Ahhh I use Northern Trust!

re: #20 Typicalwhitey

I brought up the 3 million in the last thread.

MO is out there crying about trying to afford dance class!

I KNOW! But people will NOT hear that!

Its good to be the Messiah.

They have $3 million, but just paid off their college loans?

It seems to me the $300 a month is about a 4% discount on AVERAGE rates at the time.

If so, there are more incriminating things to pin on O'Bomber.

Surprised Northern Trust did this and not Countrywide

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

He's got that protective D after his name, so let's MoveOn.

If he Dodd, and Conrad were Republicans, we'd already be in Week 2 of the Congresional hearings with Henry 'Nostrilitus' Waxman.

* * *
Alphonzo Jackson the only Republican and black offered such a deal, had to walk the plank and quit his job at HUD (Housing & Urban Development)! And dems tried to call it a scandal, though they received 9/10ths of the corrupt sweetheart mortgage breaks.

And they struggle to afford the extra lessons for the girls.....awwwww....so sweet.

re: #21 vbspurs

Yes, but these "liar" mortgages have their origin with the Dems.
It was the Dems who threatened the licenses of the banks if they did not underwrite them. Have to look out for the "Little guy", you know.

re: #17 vapig

I paid cash for mine ;^P

Well, I'm not RICH.
Oh Mr. Taxman! vapig's rich! Get 'im!
/

I'm paying 5.5% on a 25 year mortgage, and only borrowed $100K. BHO borrowed $1.32M, and still has to pay 5.625%.

RACISM!

/and yes, that's what we call sarcasm.

re: #28 alegrias

Dodd, chair of the Banking Committee. These guys have no shame,but we already knew that.

How does one qualify to borrow $1.32MM when, according to them, they're struggling to payoff onerous student loans?

Why is he living in an upscale neighborhood and not in the community he organized?

Probably afraid for his life, of course.

C'mon, O, man up and move back to the 'hood!

Interest in haram!

That loan deal makes me tingle in my leg.
[or is that tinkle down my leg?]

re: #34 FreakyBoy

Friends in low places.

As if $300 a month means anything to someone with that money, shouldn't be worth the controversy. Bad judgment once again.

re: #35 JammieWearingFool

He organized his way OUT of the community.

Barack Obama bought a $1.65 million restored Georgian mansion in an upscale Chicago neighborhood.

Wow. That place must be huge and I'll bet it makes one hell of carbon footprint. I guess its only us bitter little people who have to sacrifice for mother nature.

re: #29 mean Gene

And they struggle to afford the extra lessons for the girls.....awwwww....so sweet.

* * *
They had to give up the arugula and fresh fruit though.

I should walk over to Northern Trust down on Lasalle St. and see if I can get this deal.....

I wonder what kind of deal he got on the bus?

He will get rid of the load. Another one under the bus. [that isn't the loan I used to know]

Why can't I get deals like that? Can't help but wonder how Deval Patrick got the loan for his 28,000-square-foot mansion, probably the same way Obama did. And Deval has major connections to countrywide, no conflicts there (yeah right, google it).

I better get back to clinging to my bible and guns

Which resulted in a boat load of change he could both believe in- and count- in his pocket.

re: #27 chicagodudewhotrades

Surprised Northern Trust did this and not Countrywide

Isn't Northern Trust related to Alexis Ginnoulias's bank?

Obama, Reid, Dodd, Conrad....what party are these guys in? Can't find it anywhere.

No one is going to say how he managed the deal, but it was likely done with a wink and a nod. Who says that politics doesn't pay.

$1.32 million, 30 year mortgage, 5.625% = $7,544.74 per month
Over the life of that 30 year mortgage, that's $2.7 million paid in total, or $1.396 million in interest payments.

$1.32 million, 30 year mortgage, 5.875% rate = $7,748.80 per month. (just about $200 difference)
Over life of mortgage, that's $2.79 million paid, or $1.469 million in interest payments.

He's saving a total of $73,400 and change.

$1.32 million, 30 year mortgage, 6% rate = $7,851 per month (just over $300 per month difference).
Over life of mortgage, that's $2.82 million paid, or $1.506 million in interest payments.

Obama saves a total of $110k and change.

None of this takes into account any additional up front savings by no points or origination fees.

Senate salary is $169,000.

By the ol' rule of thumb, your house should be twice your salary and your total cars, half your salary.

So $169,000 plus Michelle's salary should equal $825,000.

re: #48 Honorary Yooper

Yoop, I doubt it, Northern trust has been around forever

Can I get below market-rate real estate loans if I become a democrat?

re: #31 jcm

Well, I'm not RICH.
Oh Mr. Taxman! vapig's rich! Get 'im!
/

I never thought of myself as rich. Hey! Is that why I didn't get a gov't check?

/

I went through some loan files from 2005 to see where the rates were at the time Barry got this loan. The rate for a 30 year fixed conforming loan that closed in June 2005 was at 5.875%. If that loan had been a jumbo loan the rate would have been higher. Obama's loan is a super jumbo loan which would have been an even higher rate. I don't have proof but I would bet the farm that 5.625% was not available on a super jumbo loan at that time for a 30 year fixed loan.

Something smells.

re: #30 rawmuse

It was the Dems who threatened the licenses of the banks if they did not underwrite them. Have to look out for the "Little guy", you know.

Just like being black means you're automatically underprivileged, even if you're rich and a Senator, being a Democrat politician means you are always looking out for the Little Guy so just ignore our corruption.

Ask Dan Rostenkowski how that worked out for him. And where was he from: Chicago...

Maybe they just went through LendingTree.... "Making Banks Compete Over You."

Funny, I've never been able to get banks to do that.

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the mortgage industry.

/

#50 lawhawk

No one is going to say how he managed the deal.....

He wore his tight bluejeans to the loan app meeting.

Ok.

How does he have 3 MILLION to invest?
His book advance was 2.2 million.
Downpayment on the house roughly 200000 ( I am being generous)

So...3 million minus 2 million = Where the hell did he come up with the OTHER MILLION?

Reminds me of the SNL sketch where the presenter is mocking "FUBU" because the brand isn't owned by a black guy... So he suggests new names, starting with "FUBARAWG" - "For Us, By A Rich-Ass White Guy"...

I'm sure Millionaire Obama and his house which costs more money than my father has made in his entire life, will be so very understanding about the needs of the average American.

On the other hand, we shouldn't question, Michelle's children need help.

/

If you have enough faith & hope & hype (& fatwas in the case of Jeremiah Wright's multimillion mansion deal), you too can live in the Father's House which has many rooms! It's in the holy book somewhere.

Follow the Money. The 5.625% rate is not the thing. The amount loaned and length of term can raise eyebrows. Bottom Line Question - Who are the movers and shakers at Northern Trust and what if any connections do they have to Illinois Politics.

-S-

re: #60 Typicalwhitey

Ok.

How does he have 3 MILLION to invest?
His book advance was 2.2 million.
Downpayment on the house roughly 200000 ( I am being generous)

So...3 million minus 2 million = Where the hell did he come up with the OTHER MILLION?

you mean you didn't know about his huge beanie baby business on ebay?

I said this on a prior thread, so I apologize if this is redundant.
Not only did Barry get a sweet interest rate, but his real estate fairy godmother,Tony Rezko helped even more.
The seller insisted on selling the house & an undeveloped abutting parcel at the same time.
Rezko buys the vacant lot at the full inflated asking price & voila, Barry & Michelle get $300,000 knocked off of the price of the house!
Nothing wrong here.

re: #50 lawhawk

More money to tithe to Trinity United Church Full of Whackos

I don't begrudge him making a lot of money from his books, or having a nice house that he can easily afford. What bugs me is A) Michelle's whining, and B) the appearance of a sweetheart deal. People get really pissed when rich people get special favors that save them money, when they of all people could afford full price.

The Obamanatrix received a nice 100% pay increase at the same time.

re: #55 NJDhockeyfan

I went through some loan files from 2005 to see where the rates were at the time Barry got this loan. The rate for a 30 year fixed conforming loan that closed in June 2005 was at 5.875%. If that loan had been a jumbo loan the rate would have been higher. Obama's loan is a super jumbo loan which would have been an even higher rate. I don't have proof but I would bet the farm that 5.625% was not available on a super jumbo loan at that time for a 30 year fixed loan.

Something smells.

I got my mortgage in March of 2005.
5.65% locked in for 30 years on $320,000 and we put $80,000 down.

COOKIE LADY are you here?

Posted in previous thread, but if you didn't see it - if the Shadow Do does not claim his/her cookies, I'll take 'em. E-mail me, nic is blue.

re: #55 NJDhockeyfan

Something smells.

Nice work.

BTW, shock that it was the WaPo who broke this story because otherwise, maybe in two weeks, Fox News would've gotten round to reporting it and then it would've been a "smear".

Hillary ain't done yet...

Change.
It's all that you'll have in your pocket if Obama is president.

Typical Chicago politics/funny business.

The more things CHANGE, the more they stay the same.

re: #67 doppelganglander

It takes money to make money, and you're absolutely right that the Obama's bitching about being oppressed rings hollow when they get great terms on their mortgage.

It's the kind of deal I would have loved to get on my own house. After all, I have excellent credit, was able to put 20% down, but since I'm not a Chicago mover and shaker, I couldn't do nearly as well as Obama.

I'm bitter.... /

re: #62 alegrias

If you have enough faith & hope & hype (& fatwas in the case of Jeremiah Wright's multimillion mansion deal), you too can live in the Father's House which has many rooms! It's in the holy book somewhere.

You gotta kill massa first. Kill him dead! And then take his filthy oil money.

re: #57 La Mauvaise New Yorkaise

Love your nic.

re: #60 Typicalwhitey

So...3 million minus 2 million = Where the hell did he come up with the OTHER MILLION?

He was factoring in the $400,000 as POTUS already.

re: #66 HelloDare

More money to tithe to Trinity United Church Full of Whackos

* * *
tithe, schmythe, he also managed to swing them $15 million TAX DOLLARS~

Obama’s Ex-Church Has Won $15M in Federal Grant Money
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Compared with the average terms offered at the time in Chicago, Obama’s rate could have saved him more than $300 per month.

Is that all there is?

re: #72 mean Gene

Change.
It's all that you'll have in your pocket if Obama is president.

My nephew sent me
This

Follow the Obama connection to ACORN and sub prime mortgage scam.He cut his activism teeth with this group and no doubt they will be huge recipients of his presidential largesse

re: #74 lawhawk

If you are bitter, are you clinging to guns and religion?

re: #81 vagabond trader

Sorry, here's linky.

[Link: sweetness-light.com...]

re: #27 chicagodudewhotrades

Surprised Northern Trust did this and not Countrywide

I would say that now that BofA has completed their merger with Countrywide, they've got one hell of a mess to clean up.

Message to Senator Barack Obama:

SEE, WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU'RE AN ELITIST, THIS KIND OF STUFF IS WHAT THEY MEAN.

re: #77 vbspurs

He was factoring in the $400,000 as POTUS already.

Now look. They are saying he got this preferred rate because of the 3 Million he had to invest with the bank.
WHERE did he get the money, seriously!

re: #78 alegrias

Wouldn't money from the US Government be considered blood money by these yahoos?

re: #60 Typicalwhitey

Ok.

How does he have 3 MILLION to invest?
His book advance was 2.2 million.
Downpayment on the house roughly 200000 ( I am being generous)

So...3 million minus 2 million = Where the hell did he come up with the OTHER MILLION?

That's a racist question.
/

Others say this is the Affirmative Action rate.

re: #86 Typicalwhitey

Now look. They are saying he got this preferred rate because of the 3 Million he had to invest with the bank.
WHERE did he get the money, seriously!

I don't know. But I have a cunning plan!

re: #78 alegrias

* * *
tithe, schmythe, he also managed to swing them $15 million TAX DOLLARS~

Obama’s Ex-Church Has Won $15M in Federal Grant Money
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Wright: "God Damn, America, I need money. "

'Dems that gots, gets.

Careful here! Mortgages, like all loans, are very negotiable.

re: #69 Typicalwhitey

I got my mortgage in March of 2005.
5.65% locked in for 30 years on $320,000 and we put $80,000 down.

Outstanding! Rates were pretty low at that time. Someone in the overnight thread posted a link showing Obama moved into his house in June 2005 so I looked for a loan that closed the same time to compare apples to apples.

re: #34 FreakyBoy

How does one qualify to borrow $1.32MM when, according to them, they're struggling to payoff onerous student loans?

Hope, change and friends in low places.

Someone else has been looking into this for awhile :
[Link: taxmanblog.blogspot.com...]
He has an update link as well.

re: #94 experiencedtraveller

Careful here! Mortgages, like all loans, are very negotiable.

He used his ears as collateral. (Okay, it makes no sense but it sounds funny.)

re: #67 doppelganglander

Yeah,we get especially annoyed when they lecture us on what to eat and at what temp our thermostat should be set.

re: #84 Macker

the word on the financial channels is that the BofA folks went over Countrywide's books with a fine tooth comb before they did the deal, I think it is a sound company, but Angelo Mozzila CEO seems to have done some very questionable deals to pols

kinda OT...I'm sure this has been brought up before...but notice the similiarity...
[Link: www.necn.com...]

and
[Link: www.whoknew.us...]

"barack you heathen fish-eyed fool! you better back off sucka!"

So the media talks up the "housing crisis" and "gas crisis" on a daily basis, and here's a guy neck deep in the subprime mess who says we aren't paying enough for gas.

How he's even getting 3% in the polls boggles the mind.

I don't know why this situation reminds me of this song but, it just does.

The loan was unusually large, known in banker lingo as a “super super jumbo.”

One mean country.

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Outstanding! Rates were pretty low at that time. Someone in the overnight thread posted a link showing Obama moved into his house in June 2005 so I looked for a loan that closed the same time to compare apples to apples.

I don't have a problem with his rate.
I have a problem with the justification for the loan.

They said it is because the Obama's had 3 million to invest.
I think the real story is where they got the 3 MILLION!

re: #87 paradox42

Wouldn't money from the US Government be considered blood money by these yahoos?

* * *
Naw, naw, naw.

Jizya and reparations, more like.

The Net Present Worth of Hope and Change was all the collateral he needed.

re: #105 Typicalwhitey

I don't have a problem with his rate.
I have a problem with the justification for the loan.

They said it is because the Obama's had 3 million to invest.
I think the real story is where they got the 3 MILLION!

Tony Rezko?

re: #101 Spider Mensch

I wonder if she's related?

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

re: #92 HelloDare

Wright: "God Damn, America, I need money. "

* * *
And today, Obama's promising "religious people" to put this Fatwa-based program on steroids--your taxdollars, their fatwas.

November headlines: Street-hustler to President!
[what a country]

re: #108 opnion

Tony Rezko?

I think that's the connect-the-dot WaPo want their readers to come up with.

speaking of money, Rush Limbaugh's new contract is worth about $400 mill, but at least he works for it. good for him

re: #108 opnion

Tony Rezko?

I don't know.
But they came up with an extra million somehow.

re: #113 chicagodudewhotrades

speaking of money, Rush Limbaugh's new contract is worth about $400 mill, but at least he works for it. good for him

It was not a hidden deal.

re: #92 HelloDare

* * *
Very funny, by the way! Those weren't sermons, but hold-ups!

Has the juicy end of this piece been discussed?

Obama's house purchase has been a source of controversy. In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that on the day of the closing, the wife of Obama's longtime friend and fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko closed on an adjoining lot that had been the estate's side yard.

The Obamas bought the house for $300,000 less than the asking price of $1.95 million, while Rezko's wife, Rita, bought the neighboring lot for the full asking price of $625,000. Rita Rezko later sold a portion of the undeveloped lot to the Obamas, enlarging the senator's yard.

Tony Rezko already had been linked to a grand jury investigation involving public corruption. Last month, he was convicted of 16 counts in an influence-peddling scheme that reached the highest levels of Illinois state government.

re: #106 alegrias

Rhetorical question.

re: #110 alegrias

I imagine the folks at kos are steaming about that.

re: #105 Typicalwhitey

I have a problem with pretty much everything about this charlatan and his nasty wife.

re: #113 chicagodudewhotrades

speaking of money, Rush Limbaugh's new contract is worth about $400 mill, but at least he works for it. good for him

Maybe Rush can buy Dead Air America and put them out of their misery.

re: #119 HelloDare

I imagine the folks at kos are steaming about that.

Koslings aren't supporting the O-man these days, or so I hear...

re: #111 Golem Akbar

November headlines: Street-hustler to President!
[what a country]

Ahem, you apparently missed Weslley Clark's" faultless logic.
You see being a "Community Organizer" is much better preparation to become POTUS than say, commanding the largest attack squadron in the US Navy.

re: #117 Drained Brain

You forget that Rezko and Obama were only passing acquaintances.

re: #121 JammieWearingFool

Maybe Rush can buy Dead Air America and put them out of their misery.

Hey, great idea. Rush buys Air America and turns into a right-wing radio outlet. I like it.

The more bad stuff piles up to make Obama look unelectable, and if his poll numbers drop, watch for Democrats to find a way to replace him before the election.

It happened to us in New Jersey. Torricelli dropped out due to scandal AFTER the deadline for a replacement candidate -and the New Jersey supreme court simply changed the rules so Loopy Lautenberg could run. I think since he's been in - he sponsored the naming of a post office.

re: #121 JammieWearingFool

Maybe Rush can buy Dead Air America and put them out of their misery.

* * *
Your tax dollars funded (misinvested) that turkey already.

re: #123 opnion

Ahem, you apparently missed Weslley Clark's" faultless logic.
You see being a "Community Organizer" is much better preparation to become POTUS than say, commanding the largest attack squadron in the US Navy.

I like Michael Medved's calling him General Weasly Clark.

re: #124 FreakyBoy

You forget that Rezko and Obama were only passing acquaintances.

That's not the passing acquaintance I knew.

re: #125 Golem Akbar

Hey, great idea. Rush buys Air America and turns into a right-wing radio outlet. I like it.

Heck, let Rush do the leftist spiel.

He's probably better at it than most of them because they're usually making it up as they go along, inventing arguments to justify whatever anti-American position they are taking today. They don't realize they use the same three or four tired old rationales over and over.

re: #126 DistantThunder

The more bad stuff piles up to make Obama look unelectable, and if his poll numbers drop, watch for Democrats to find a way to replace him before the election.

It happened to us in New Jersey. Torricelli dropped out due to scandal AFTER the deadline for a replacement candidate -and the New Jersey supreme court simply changed the rules so Loopy Lautenberg could run. I think since he's been in - he sponsored the naming of a post office.

Hillary! Oh nooooo!

What the heck is it with Dems and shady loans? The media would be all over a Republican 24/7 if even a wiff of something like this came out.

re: #132 johnnyreb

What the heck is it with Dems and shady loans? The media would be all over a Republican 24/7 if even a wiff of something like this came out.

The (msm) wagons are circling.

re: #131 Golem Akbar

Hillary! Oh nooooo!

SPeaking of Hillary, was the house purchase in Chappaqua-qua a clean deal?

re: #124 FreakyBoy

You forget that Rezko and Obama were only passing acquaintances.

Right & He barley knows Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist.
The fact the he launched his political career at the home of Ayers & Bernadine Dorn, means nothing.
He probably just knocked randomly on a door & it just happend to be their's. Yeah, thats it.

re: #123 opnion

Ahem, you apparently missed Weslley Clark's" faultless logic.
You see being a "Community Organizer" is much better preparation to become POTUS than say, commanding the largest attack squadron in the US Navy.

* * *

Are you questioning the candidate's PROVEN financial genius in turning his economy around using nothing but hope & change? It's a MIRACLE!

This is one candidate that doesn't need to read Greenspan's book nor bone up on the economy!

re: #133 Golem Akbar

The (msm) wagons vultures are circling.

Fixed

re: #132 johnnyreb

What the heck is it with Dems and shady loans? The media would be all over a Republican 24/7 if even a wiff of something like this came out.

You mean how they were always digging into President Clinton's life to see if he had imposed himself sexually on any of his subordinates? And then how feminists gave him hell for it, when they found out?

re: #126 DistantThunder

The more bad stuff piles up to make Obama look unelectable, and if his poll numbers drop, watch for Democrats to find a way to replace him before the election.

It happened to us in New Jersey. Torricelli dropped out due to scandal AFTER the deadline for a replacement candidate -and the New Jersey supreme court simply changed the rules so Loopy Lautenberg could run. I think since he's been in - he sponsored the naming of a post office.

That's exactly what I've been thinking. They got away with it in New Jersey. If Obama's poll numbers tank, I expect to see them do the same thing, legal or not.

re: #128 Golem Akbar

I like Michael Medved's calling him General Weasly Clark.

I does seem appropriate.

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

Ask Alexis Ginnoulias and Tony Rezko how he got that sweetheart deal.

Alexis Ginnoulias BIG TIME DONK BANKER AND CROOK

re: #136 alegrias

* * *

Are you questioning the candidate's PROVEN financial genius in turning his economy around using nothing but hope & change? It's a MIRACLE!

This is one candidate that doesn't need to read Greenspan's book nor bone up on the economy!

A lightworker!

Anyone see this DKos diary?

The Video The Jewish lobby Didn't Want You To See

I stumbled upon this U tube video on the implications of the US blind support for Israel and how it goes against US foreign national interests. It's a 50 min piece but worth the watch. I think a lot of us here already know this, but at least what was striking to me is the connection between AIPAC and the neocons in the Bush admin and bushes decision to invade Iraq all with serious implications. This is an example of how blind and costly in the form US blood. I'm not arguing that AIPAC was the only reason Bush invaded Iraq that would not be true, but the Israel lobby had been very influential push into this debacle. More recently you can hear the voices again of the Israel lobby pushing for military action in Iran. The question is when will the US citizenry wake up.

re: #140 opnion

WHEN DONKS DON'T HAVE A RECORD THEY SLIME THOSE WHO DO.

re: #29 mean Gene

And they struggle to afford the extra lessons for the girls.....awwwww....so sweet.

Maybe they're flying them to Russia for weekly lessons with the Moscow Ballet. After all, you can't possibly expect Lightworker Loin Fruit to rough it in the wilds of the Chicago ballet scene.

It's so refreshing that he is not a typical politician..............oh.........wait.

Check out the June 30 cartoon.

re: #57 La Mauvaise New Yorkaise,

I'm re-fi-ing through Lending Tree right now. So far it has been a good experience. Of course, I'm not getting Obama levels of customer support, but on the whole it's none too shabby.

re: #147 Golem Akbar

Check out the June 30 cartoon.

LOL! Awesome. I'll post that and h/t you, Golem.

re: #144 yochanan

WHEN DONKS DON'T HAVE A RECORD THEY SLIME THOSE WHO DO.

It does seem to be their M O.
Have you noticed that Obama and his people keep talking about how the Republican's are going to use race?
I hear it from no Republicans , only Democrats

he's as corrupt as any other politician. maybe more so. the followers don't care, they're blinded by the light.

re: #68 faraway

The Obamanatrix received a nice 100% pay increase at the same time.

An increase, don't forget, enabled by federal money Barack funneled to her employer.

A bit OT, but perhaps not, as it deals with a charity in Chicago. Its called CeaseFire, and works to prevent youth gang crimes.

Here's a quote from a featuer article in today's TIMES (London):

"Laura Bush has visited the programme twice and she and her husband made a personal donation to support the work. Barack Obama, who lives in Chicago, has steered clear. CeaseFire has recently been the victim of local politics and seen its budget cut."

So - BHO fled the hood, and doesn't give a toss about helping there ... but Laura Bush does.
Nice.

([Link: women.timesonline.co.uk...]

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see this DKos diary?

The Video The Jewish lobby Didn't Want You To See

Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings, twisting your mind and smashing your dreams!
Blinded by me, you cant see a thing, just call my name, `cause I'll hear you scream!

AIPAC!
AIPAC!

/Metallica goes Kos

re: #148 Iron Fist

,

I'm re-fi-ing through Lending Tree right now. So far it has been a good experience. Of course, I'm not getting Obama levels of customer support, but on the whole it's none too shabby.

Be careful. Too many credit inquiries can lower your score. At least that is what I was advised. I had to refuse some lenders

POLITIC ANS USING INFLUENCE FOR THERE PERSONAL BENEFIT NOT ONE OUNCE OF CHANGE THERE. same old same old

As Orwell so aptly pointed out "some pigs are more equal than others"
...(but don't you DARE question his patriotism-- even when it hinges on "racebaiting", shady deals, excessive pandering, empty promises, negligent policy-making, and political schickanery.)

re: #132 johnnyreb

What the heck is it with Dems and shady loans? The media would be all over a Republican 24/7 if even a wiff of something like this came out.

* * *
Yes, the lone republican who was black, Alphonzo Jackson, was forced out of his job for taking a Countrywide sweetheart deal.

He was Pres. Bush's cabinet member & head of Housing & Urban Development.

The Dems all get to sit pretty & sit tight while being crooks. Remember how they swore Pres. Clinton was swell, though impeached!

Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said the rate was adjusted to account for a competing offer from another lender and other factors.

Putting aside the question of a "competing offer from another lender" (sure), just what would those "other factors" be? How about some full disclosure, Ben and Barry?

And let's not forget this one from Obamarosa:

And then you’ve got the other half of young people who were like me and Barack, who too, out loans to pay for our college. So yeah, we have Ivy League degrees, but they cost us a whole lot of money to get. And see, what we did was what we thought we were supposed to do. We got those fancy degrees, and then we left corporate America, and went to work in the community. And with every job we took, we made less money. My mother told us we were crazy, but we thought we were doing the right thing. And I do believe we were. But where we found ourselves, in a position like most young couples, with our PhD’s and JD’s and MPh’s and WLMOP’s, all those wonderful degrees, all mired in debt. We had not paid off our loan debts until just a few years ago. Barack couldn’t even run for president. You can’t be in debt running for president. So I ask people, when was the last time we’ve had a president of the United States who’s just a few years out of debt? Well, that would be him. And the only reason we’re not in that position today is because Barack wrote two best-selling books.

I realize that Barry's first book, "Dreams from my Father," was published in August 2004. Did it give these folk, who were supposedly struggling to pay off their student loans, enough income to buy and finance a $1.65 million home in June 2005?

re: #154 Pawn of the Oppressor

Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings, twisting your mind and smashing your dreams!
Blinded by me, you cant see a thing, just call my name, `cause I'll hear you scream!

AIPAC!
AIPAC!

/Metallica goes Kos

Jooos... Jooos! Juice! [Kos: can't live with 'em, can't gas 'em?]

re: #150 opnion

It does seem to be their M O.
Have you noticed that Obama and his people keep talking about how the Republican's are going to use race?
I hear it from no Republicans , only Democrats

8 DIFFERENT DONKS SLIMED JOHN MCCAIN'S MILITARY RECORD
what about obama's military record RIGHT HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

"political schickanery"

It's a close shave if you survive their cut-throat culture.

Why would he allow a bank to have say in his house? Isn´t independence more important than size?

re: #155 opnion,

They just pull one Credit Report. Like I said, so far it's smooth. I'll be happy when it's done, though.

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

How the hell do they keep finding out about our plans? Can't anyone keep a secret anymore?

re: #125 Golem Akbar

Hey, great idea. Rush buys Air America and turns into a right-wing radio outlet. I like it.

He just threatened to buy CNBC after hearing some idiots on there talking about him.

re: #165 paradox42

How the hell do they keep finding out about our plans? Can't anyone keep a secret anymore?

And all he wants to do is finish his frickin' waffles. sheesh

re: #165 paradox42

How the hell do they keep finding out about our plans? Can't anyone keep a secret anymore?

Mighty Zion's Elders tremble before the unstoppable peepul power of Utube.

re: #157 LeonidasOfSparta

As Orwell so aptly pointed out "some pigs are more equal than others"
...(but don't you DARE question his patriotism-- even when it hinges on "racebaiting", shady deals, excessive pandering, empty promises, negligent policy-making, and political schickanery.)

Omigawd - paraphrasing Orwell, BHO would be an exceedingly equal [deleted] ...

re: #168 Pawn of the Oppressor

Mighty Zion's Elders tremble before the unstoppable peepul power of Utube.

Kos knows all.

re: #168 Pawn of the Oppressor

I once read that we owned Utube. If only it were true...

re: #171 paradox42

I once read that we owned Utube. If only it were true...

Jewtube, maybe.

re: #134 Silhouette

SPeaking of Hillary, was the house purchase in Chappaqua-qua a clean deal?

Their bagman McAuliffe helped arrange that. The two of them didn't have two nickels to rub together back in 1999 when "they" bought the house.

Not surprising but funny:

Clinton attacks against Obama vanish on Web

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has scrubbed all negative ads from her campaign Web site and YouTube page, leaving visitors with only the warm and fuzzy moments from her bid for the presidency.

Gone are the attack ads accusing Sen. Barack Obama of insulting Pennsylvanians, ducking debates and making misleading assertions about gas prices. In their place are some of the campaign's best and most positive ads and multiple "Hillary I Know" testimonials that have a shelf life should the former first lady ever run again.

The whitewashing took place quietly in the past few days as Mr. Obama cut his former rival a check to help relieve her campaign debt and as the Clinton family moved to fully embrace Mr. Obama as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

"She's no longer campaigning for president," said Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee. "She's focused on her work in the Senate, campaigning for Senator Obama and other Democrats."

Mr. Elleithee said the videos probably are archived.

Also missing are the dozens of speeches and hundreds of press releases running back to Mrs. Clinton's January 2007 campaign announcement. Many offered reporters details about important endorsements or the scripts of TV ads, but dozens were dedicated to countering the senator from Illinois.

"Misleading attack: Sen. Obama flubs in Ohio," one release read. Another blared, in capital letters, "NAFTA-gate: False denials from the Obama campaign."

Like lies off of a ducks back.

If this were a republican running for the local ombudsman office he would be run out of town in shame.

OT:

I bought a filing cabinet from UVA a few years ago. Inside there were some papers stuck inside. They are some letters and a telegram from Julian Bond from 1972. It's all about The Southern Poverty Law Center. Do you suppose I could get much for it on ebay?

It seems I'm being fairly successful in business in spite of the elitists that are trying to push us down. It is going to be two class society when Obama and his ilk have all the power. Think of how many more are going to be on welfare when gas is at $7 a gallon, minimum wage is up, but no one is hiring and no one is expanding. Democrats running the businesses will result in no businesses. These idiots are unable to run a restaurant that has guaranteed customers. I swear our country is being run by fools. A complete kakistocracy.

I'd like to know how Michelle Obama got such a huge raise from the hospital she worked at in one year: ( 2004 - 2005 )

What she doesn’t mention is that the helping industry has treated her pretty well. In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama’s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office. And that does not count the money Mrs. Obama receives from serving on corporate boards. She would have been O.K. even without Jack’s magic beans.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

And, there's this song.

Nummy-num-num.

re: #178 father_of_10

It seems I'm being fairly successful in business in spite of the elitists that are trying to push us down. It is going to be two class society when Obama and his ilk have all the power. Think of how many more are going to be on welfare when gas is at $7 a gallon, minimum wage is up, but no one is hiring and no one is expanding. Democrats running the businesses will result in no businesses. These idiots are unable to run a restaurant that has guaranteed customers. I swear our country is being run by fools. A complete kakistocracy.

Obama has a very clever plan to solve the illegal alien problem. Since we will no longer be able to drill for oil, and can't build new nuclear plants, gas will be over $10.00 a gallon, millions will be unemployed, and no illegals will want to come to America, since there will be no jobs for them. Clever, no?

And you thought he was just either evil or stupid. He is neither.
(///?///)

re: #147 Golem Akbar

Being from Conn-ecticut, I am rather tickled by July 1.lol.

re: #179 seekeroftruth

I'd like to know how Michelle Obama got such a huge raise from the hospital she worked at in one year: ( 2004 - 2005 )

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

Reparations for wage slavery.

Here's another deal that Obama benefited from...

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy

The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair.

[A] Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies - including several hundred in Obama's former district - deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable.

Grove Parc and several other prominent failures were developed and managed by Obama's close friends and political supporters. Those people profited from the subsidies even as many of Obama's constituents suffered. Tenants lost their homes; surrounding neighborhoods were blighted.

[Link: www.boston.com...]

Sure, let's hear more about his wonderful judgment.

I don't begrudge anyone the ability to get a good rate and favorable terms. There is no law stating that the rates, terms and conditions of all mortgages must be identical. 10 guys can go to the same lender and get ten different deals - it's whatever you are able to negotiate.

HOWEVER, if there was a quid pro quo in this deal - then his chops should be busted.

"This is not the mortgage I knew."

re: #174 HelloDare

That's scary. Scary 'cause the Clintons don't just "go away" quietly. Somethings just not right here...

re: #187 paxnhymn

That's scary. Scary 'cause the Clintons don't just "go away" quietly. Somethings just not right here...

Bingo yahtze

re: #183 Diamond Bullet

: -)
It is interesting that everyone talks about their income jump from Barrack's book sales, but not about her huge raise.

re: #181 Golem Akbar

Obama has a very clever plan to solve the illegal alien problem. Since we will no longer be able to drill for oil, and can't build new nuclear plants, gas will be over $10.00 a gallon, millions will be unemployed, and no illegals will want to come to America, since there will be no jobs for them. Clever, no?

And you thought he was just either evil or stupid. He is neither.
(///?///)

Ohhh, so that's the real reason behind the Democrats and B. Hussein's hell bent efforts on tanking America! They merely want to stop illegal immigration! Well, good for them! Hey, let's all vote for Barry! A vote for Barry is a vote to stop illegal immigration! All hail king Barry, the turtle on a post!

re: #179 seekeroftruth

I'd like to know how Michelle Obama got such a huge raise from the hospital she worked at in one year: ( 2004 - 2005 )

I don't know if any other Lizard agrees with me, but à priori, I have nothing against people making a windfall from their associations, their profession, or their fame. That's part of the greatness of America -- you get rewarded handsomely for your work, hard or otherwise.

But I do mind that the Obamas and prominent Democrats pretend they're "just folks", and are different from The Big Bad Corporate Evil Elitist Republicans.

In short, it's the hypocrisy, stupid.

While the specifics are different, the level of corruption is so similar to what was revealed about the Clintons, both before and after the election. Gob-smackingly, especially to me, there still is a substantial segment of America that think the Criminal Duo did no wrong. Makes me think a lot of Americans want criminals as their elected representatives.

Clinton attacks against Obama vanish on Web

"Take out the papers and the trash, or you don't get no spending cash." Yakety-Yak. Don't talk back.

re: #185 ronaldusmagnus

I don't begrudge anyone the ability to get a good rate and favorable terms.

I was composing my comment when you posted this. Good to know, Ronaldus.

HOWEVER, if there was a quid pro quo in this deal - then his chops should be busted.

Actually, even if there wasn't a quid-pro-quo deal, I'd like to see his chops busted, or at least, publicly embarrassed.

re: #161 yochanan

8 DIFFERENT DONKS SLIMED JOHN MCCAIN'S MILITARY RECORD
what about obama's military record RIGHT HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

* * *
Everyone knows communisty service trumps military service (serving ALL of the USA!).

And yes, those were coordinated, community "attacks" on McCain's military career & POW time, no doubt coordinated by the crack "war room" where community organizers organize.

re: #191 vbspurs

I completely agree with you.
The hypocrisy and the lying are the things that makes me angry. Add the stupid media covering up for them, and then it's really infuriating.

re: #191 vbspurs

To paraphrase Harry Truman; If you get rich in politics you must be a crook. To respond to your comment, fine, so long as you are in the private sector,not running for POTUS.

Predatory lender forced Obama to finance his home when Obama only had 5% to put down? Only in evil America.

Let's hope this loan deal helps keep him living in this home for a long time, and not making a move to Pennsylvania avenue

Thunder and lightning around me, so I'm turning off my computer and shuttering up my home.

Since I didn't get a sweetheart deal, unlike the Obamas, I have to protect what little belongs to me. Catch y'all later!

Cookie Lady! Calling the Cookie Lady!

re: #191 vbspurs

I don't know if any other Lizard agrees with me, but à priori, I have nothing against people making a windfall from their associations, their profession, or their fame. That's part of the greatness of America -- you get rewarded handsomely for your work, hard or otherwise.

But I do mind that the Obamas and prominent Democrats pretend they're "just folks", and are different from The Big Bad Corporate Evil Elitist Republicans.

In short, it's the hypocrisy, stupid.

Exactly!
And the husband&wife-team which got us into the deep doo-doo here in the UK, Tony and Cherie Blair, were just such hypocrites.
Now they've go five houses - he's being paid by J Morgan's, she's got a huge deal as lawyer, and still she makes out that she's only a poor working-class lassie.
Oh - she was infamous for getting freebies wherever she went, dresses, free holidays in sumptuous villas in France and Italy ...

Birds of a feather, methinks ...

re: #204 taxfreekiller

Paper work and Darwin's evolution theory have something in common

[Link: web.Israelinsider.com...]

evolving Birth Certificates

Virgin Birth?

I tried the audacity of hope on a couple of mortgage officers. I got the loans but it never worked like THIS. There must have been something wrong with my technique.

re: #133 Golem Akbar

The (msm) wagons are circling.

If only -- only! -- some newspaper would tell the truth about Obama and his sweetheart deal!

(It never stops, here, does it? Seriously.)

Time for lunch. Made a Hope sandwich earlier but somehow I'm still hungry.

re: #204 taxfreekiller

evolving Birth Certificates

Well that controversy is not going to go away. Either Kos got scammed or Barry is trying to pull a fast one, or both.
Either way, if BHO wins, someone knocks at the door of the SCOTUS early the next morning seeking to have the results set aside.

re: #207 Cognito

If only -- only! -- some newspaper would tell the truth about Obama and his sweetheart deal!

(It never stops, here, does it? Seriously.)

I have never commented to you or about you before, but why don't you give it a rest you contentious prick? enough is enough. if you have such a problem with this website and the comments here in, go somewhere else for crap sake! and don't ask me for examples or to clarify my post.
/rant off

re: #212 Spider Mensch

He's swallowing and taking a deep breath at the moment.

Rich and Powerful is a club like Costco-members get privileges.

And his senatorial salary was what? Oh, I forgot about that massive "community service" salary. What a crook. Oops, he's a politician. Ok, then, what a CROOK!

BREAKING NEWS: Colombia says it has rescued Ingrid Betancourt and three American hostages from rebels

The Obama Birth Certificate is a FAKE. Period.

The embossed seal is missing. Simple as that.

Embossing is APPLIED to BOTH sides of the paper. The seal is READ in obverse on the back and in reverse on the front.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for the embossing to not be visible on the front.

re: #217 HelloDare

BREAKING NEWS: Colombia says it has rescued Ingrid Betancourt and three American hostages from rebels

Could they be the Northrop Grumman employees that were kidnapped about 5 years ago?

re: #212 Spider Mensch

I have never commented to you or about you before, but why don't you give it a rest you contentious prick?

Again: Call me a 'contentious prick,' but just don't call me wrong.

Did or didn't this story originate with the most mainstream of mainstream outlets?

Maybe contention isn't great. But it's better than hypocrisy.

this may be a stretch , but the CEO of northern trust , william osborn , gave to obama's campaign..he's a member of a couple of obama groups..but he also gave some to mccain and is in a mccain group..one of those business types who give to both sides so that he's got a foot in the door with whoever wins

[Link: www.nndb.com...]

What I want to know is where Obama got the down payment of 110K for his first condo in the 1990s, when he was poor and indebted because of school loans. Anybody know anything about that?

Quivering Birth Certificate. Has a nice ring to is. Hope we can see one.

re: #218 faraway

The Obama Birth Certificate is a FAKE. Period.

The embossed seal is missing. Simple as that.

Embossing is APPLIED to BOTH sides of the paper. The seal is READ in obverse on the back and in reverse on the front.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for the embossing to not be visible on the front.

The document issued by HI was not a birth cert. it was a confirmation of birth. Apparently the sort of document that you get when you ask a State to confirm that someone was born there.

re: #217 HelloDare

BREAKING NEWS: Colombia says it has rescued Ingrid Betancourt and three American hostages from rebels

One more nail in FARC's coffin. That is great news.

re: #223 HelloDare

Quivering Birth Certificate. Has a nice ring to is. Hope we can see one.

A throbbing one would be more traditional.

re: #25 JammieWearingFool

They have $3 million, but just paid off their college loans?

They probably had super low interest rate student loans. Based on their tax returns, the only reason they even have the mortgage is to shield some of their rather substantial earnings from taxation. Nothing wrong with that, it's as American as apple pie.

"You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids."

-- Michelle Obama

re: #212 Spider Mensch

I have never commented to you or about you before, but why don't you give it a rest you contentious prick? enough is enough. if you have such a problem with this website and the comments here in, go somewhere else for crap sake! and don't ask me for examples or to clarify my post.
/rant off

I suspect he is being contentious just so he can get banned and then go whinge "Censorship! The Big Mean Righties don't want Free Speech!" to his KOSling/LLL buddies, seemingly as part of some drug-induced double-dare BS.

That, or he just loves to be an ass. Same ends, different means.

This was not the birth certificate I knew.

re: #224 CyanSnowHawk

The document issued by HI was not a birth cert. it was a confirmation of birth. Apparently the sort of document that you get when you ask a State to confirm that someone was born there.

We all know this.

re: #230 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This was not the birth certificate I knew.

If it goes under the bus will he get a littering ticket?

re: #217 HelloDare

BREAKING NEWS: Colombia says it has rescued Ingrid Betancourt and three American hostages from rebels

* * *
Did John McCain singlehandedly grab & wrestle the terrorist rebels with his own hands?

Was that McCain's purpose in going to Colombia?

McCain's Liberation Policy in Action!

PS, McCain also wishes to rescue the delicate lady, Aung San Suu Kyi, the 1991 Nobel Peace Prize winner who has spent over 10 years under house arrest and jail under Burma's military regime.

re: #222 coquimbojoe

Granma's piggy bank?

re: #86 Typicalwhitey

Now look. They are saying he got this preferred rate because of the 3 Million he had to invest with the bank.
WHERE did he get the money, seriously!

He got a big advance on his book contract, and he has since sold a lot of books. I just checked the Amazon rankings and, although his books have been in circulation for months and months, they are still selling at pretty high levels. It's not a big mystery.

re: #226 jcm

-doh!

Barbra Streisand backs Obama

“Barack has awakened in many of us the notion that we can again be hopeful, enabling us to believe that we are capable of lifting our brothers and sisters out of poverty, of providing quality education for all our children, of ending this unjust war in Iraq and bringing our troops home safely”

/McCain's had it now

re: #232 jcm

If it goes under the bus will he get a littering ticket?

In this case, he could blame it on his littermates (th' S.O.B.)

/alright already! I was trying too hard. Put down the shotgun.

Although I'm surely no Obama supporter, this story is not going to go anywhere.

The story says, "Compared with the average terms offered at the time in Chicago, Obama’s rate could have saved him more than $300 per month" and $300. per month sounds like a lot-- until you realize he's already paying $6,215. per month in interest.

In other words, "$300. per month" translates into about 0.27% in the interest rate. And if that's a payoff, it's so small that it must have been an insult like offering a police officer some pocket change to fix a speeding ticket).

Looking at Obama's tax return, what stands out is how little he saves in proportion to his income- it's as though he just assumes that he'll always have so much money coming in that he'll never ever have to worry aboiut it.

re: #224 CyanSnowHawk

The document issued by HI was not a birth cert. it was a confirmation of birth. Apparently the sort of document that you get when you ask a State to confirm that someone was born there.

Yes, but if you go to TFKs link you'll see that they do emboss the 'certification of birth'. I looked at a high resolution image of the certification that Kos received, and there was absolutely no evidence of embossing. The blog in TFKs link recently requested and received the same document (for a different individual) from the state of Hawaii and was unable to make the embossing disappear when scanned.
Conclusion? The Kos document was not valid.

I just bought a townhouse. That is not the interest rate I knew.

re: #238 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In this case, he could blame it on his littermates (th' S.O.B.)

/alright already! I was trying too hard. Put down the shotgun.

Like I said last night, I'm a fair guy, I'll give you a minute maybe two head start....

How you been?

re: #240 ec marm

You cannot make embossing "disappear". The embossing machine crimps both sides of the paper - by definition. The paper is physically altered into a new 3D-like shape.

re: #242 jcm

Like I said last night, I'm a fair guy, I'll give you a minute maybe two head start....

How you been?

Head start? Don't need one. I'm staying right here in my office.

I'm doing fine.

ah the spin doctors are making "Squealer" sound like he cares (at the meeting of young people who should answer the call to "service" in Colo Springs):

"Obama talked in almost achingly intimate terms about the impact service had on him, as a boy who "spent much of my childhood adrift" and often had little idea "who I was or where I was going" because of the absence of his father. (look under the bus, Hussein, I think he's under there with Granny) But early in college, he said, values like hard work and empathy instilled by his mother and grandparents resurfaced "after a long hibernation." He eventually found himself working as a community organizer in a devastated South Side Chicago neighborhood, and said he was transformed (into a pig who wears human clothing, walks on two legs and drinks alcohol-- after posting rules to the contrary for all other animals!)

re: #244 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Head start? Don't need one. I'm staying right here in my office.

I'm doing fine.

That's a grand old ship!

Getting sweetheart deals like this for everyone! I have HOPE that this real estate deal is part of the CHANGE he has envisioned for the country. However, I BELIEVE I am most mistaken. This is more than a sweetheart deal, it is power POLITICS as it's always been played by the CORRUPT. It's nothing more than INFLUENCE PEDDLING. Obama is so DIFFERENT than the usual - different in that he is so arrogant about his fake self-righteous purity.

re: #243 faraway

You cannot make embossing "disappear". The embossing machine crimps both sides of the paper - by definition. The paper is physically altered into a new 3D-like shape.

I know. I still have a corporate seal downstairs.
The only way the embossing would not show up is if it was never there in the first place. Which makes the document Kos scanned more than a little suspicious.

From [Link: hotair.com...]

In the video General Testy Clark makes an interesting statement in backtracking on some of his criticism on McCain.

"We need a thinking president. We need someone who understands all the elements of power. And I believe we need a policy that starts with the idea that we're going to withdraw American forces from Iraq, that we're going to do more in Afghanistan..." then he goes on, lemme paraphrase, to repeat the 100 year smear and condescendingly give credit to McCain for all the experience from being a fighter pilot.

Here's what I took from it:

*We need someone who understands all the elements of power...hmmm, and Obama fits that description how exactly?

*Withdrawal from Iraq, because Obama is talking that issue up a lot lately, right?

The CNN anchor (don't know/recall his name) really stuck Testy's glowing endorsement of Kerry in the heart. One of the few decent moments from CNN that I can remember in a long time.

re: #159 Blackacre

I realize that Barry's first book, "Dreams from my Father," was published in August 2004. Did it give these folk, who were supposedly struggling to pay off their student loans, enough income to buy and finance a $1.65 million home in June 2005?

He received a new contract for three books: a reissue of the first book, another non-fiction book (which became The Audacity of Hope), and a children[s book, not yet written. The advance for this contract was, I believe, $2.4 million. The exact number is in the story.

From " Daily Kos Posts Obama 'Birth Certificate' " (LGF June 12th)

LGF reader Jinxmedic has some more information:
"... So, yes, a certificate of live birth from 1961 can be authentic, printed via Microsoft Word with a laser printer."

Sounds like it would easy to forge. The trick would be to get someone else's original, scan it on a very high-DPI machine, then photoshop THAT one, inserting the appropriate text from Word.

/just sayin'

Just another distraction. This conversation will not help Michelle's kids...err..wait a minute...in a way it does.

According to my Man, The Reverend Al, it would not be unusual for a community organizer to to sell out his future political ambitions for a lousy $300 a month. Al says he has been accused of selling out for less. Course he ain't running for President this go-round. According to Al, he would play the race card on this one and cite Senator Dodd as an example of whats good for the white goose is also good for the black gander.

re: #245 LeonidasOfSparta

look under the bus, Hussein, I think he's under there with Granny

Nah, Daddy threw Obama under the bus when he abandoned wife #2 and kiddie, not vice versa.

And for that, Obama worships him, writes about him, and considers him a role model.

The lady that stayed up nights with him when he was sick and sacrificed to give him things, now, SHE was tossed under the bus.

$300/month times 30 years times 12 months per year equals $108,000. "We have to restore balance to our economy, and make sure that we have rules of the road that work for ordinary Americans, not just the wealthy and well-connected" like Senators. "And that"s what we"ll do when I"m President of the United States.", from Obama's speech on the "housing crisis".

re: #254 Silhouette

Nah, Daddy threw Obama under the bus when he abandoned wife #2 and kiddie, not vice versa.

And for that, Obama worships him, writes about him, and considers him a role model.

The lady that stayed up nights with him when he was sick and sacrificed to give him things, now, SHE was tossed under the bus.

This is not really fair. When he gave his speech in St. Paul after winning the nomination, he thanked his grandmother first. He has referred in other speeches to his mother and grandparents as having "put everything they had" into raising him and his sister. I've never heard him say anything about his father other than that he was an object of longing.

re: #123 opnion

Ahem, you apparently missed Weslley Clark's" faultless logic.
You see being a "Community Organizer" is much better preparation to become POTUS than say, commanding the largest attack squadron in the US Navy.

Wesley Clark is the final stage in the evolution of a prick, a walking Homo Erectus.

Obama received preferential treatment from a bank because he's a powerful U.S. Senator, and now presidential prospect? And Michelle got a cushy, six-figure job in healthcare after her husband's election?

Gosh, no wonder he thinks America's seriously flawed, and she's never been proud of this country. Too many incumbent officials get unwarranted privileges!

I can't find any liberals to defend this guy other than to say "He's not Bush". He's like the John McCain of the left.

I've got a sneaking suspicion that lots of liberals are secretly hoping for a McCain win so they can get back to seething and not bear any responsibility for things this twit might do if he gets in office.

re: #256 JustMyView

When his horribly racist church where he worshiped for 20 years was first exposed, the first thing he did was to defend it and Rev. Wright by saying that his grandmother was a racist, too. (Trying to use the "everybody does it" argument - or more to the point, "white people are bigots first.")

He insulted her to defend Wright.

He can "God Bless Her" and thank her from now until doomsday, but when the chips were down, he threw HER on the grenade to protect a first-class jerk like Wright.

It is an old cliche to say "He'd step on his own grandmother to get ahead," or some variant with different bad things done to grandma and different goals to achieve.

But this is the first actual case I've ever seen. Nice guy.

But he thanked her in a speech, so it is all fine and dandy.

What's the point of getting into politics if you aren't going to get excellent deals and preferential treatment?

The job pretty much sucks, otherwise.

I mean, free quesadillas are given, right? Oh, "casa deals"... different other thing there.

Obama is what he is: a race-baiting, America hating, Marxist who appeals to the losers in society who are waiting with others in their govt. sponsored cargo cult for someone to save them from a life of bad choices.

He can try to distance himself from his far left sociopathic buddies, but most of America will just not buy it. It is far too late to paint him as some middle of the road Horatio Alger. Despite his supporters best efforts, you can't polish a horse turd.

/apologies for the run-on sentences.

re: #256 JustMyView

Damn. I accidently updinged that.

re: #260 Silhouette

When his horribly racist church where he worshiped for 20 years was first exposed, the first thing he did was to defend it and Rev. Wright by saying that his grandmother was a racist, too. (Trying to use the "everybody does it" argument - or more to the point, "white people are bigots first.")

He insulted her to defend Wright.

He can "God Bless Her" and thank her from now until doomsday, but when the chips were down, he threw HER on the grenade to protect a first-class jerk like Wright.

It is an old cliche to say "He'd step on his own grandmother to get ahead," or some variant with different bad things done to grandma and different goals to achieve.

But this is the first actual case I've ever seen. Nice guy.

But he thanked her in a speech, so it is all fine and dandy.

Yes!

re: #263 debutaunt

Damn. I accidently updinged that.

Fixed it for you.

re: #239 Albigensian

Looking at Obama's tax return, what stands out is how little he saves in proportion to his income- it's as though he just assumes that he'll always have so much money coming in that he'll never ever have to worry aboiut it.

How would you have any idea what Obama's savings rates are based on his income tax form?

(I'm not even talking about unreported income).

I'm beginning to understand why Obama has gotten so much backing from corporations and business people: They know they can do 'business' with him....and the MSM will look the other way.

My two cents at 5.6 percent is that this story will be dead by the weekend if it lives that long. Ho hum.

Of course a Republican candidate for Congress here four years ago got a sweetheart deal on a home loan and inflated his income plus took some money from someone else so he could qualify. I think he just got out of prison. Google Adam Taft. He flew jets in the military. Whoopee. The only thing that could have saved him was a D after his name.

Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said the rate was adjusted to account for a competing offer from another lender and other factors. “The Obamas have since had as much as $3 million invested through Northern Trust,” he said in a statement.

By other factors, I presume they mean sycophantic suckuppery.