Doubt is the father of invention.

— Galileo Galilei

Obama is the father of genuflection.

McCain 08!

And there will be no mention of lactating man-boobs on this thread.

DOH!

July 2, 1863

Little Round Top

Oates' 15th Alabama Infantry was locked into a contest with Vincent's left regiment, the 20th Maine Infantry commanded by Colonel Joshua L. Chamberlain. Repeated southern charges made no headway against the stubborn soldiers from Maine who loosed volley after volley into the swarm of Confederates. "My men obeyed and advanced about half way to the enemy's position," Colonel Oates reported, "but the fire was so destructive that my line wavered like a man trying to walk against a strong wind, and then, slowly, doggedly, (bend) back a little. To stand there and die was sheer folly; either to retreat or advance became a necessity. My Lt. Col. I. B. Feagin, lost his leg; the heroic Capt. Ellison had fallen, while Capt. Brainard, one of the bravest and best officers in the regiment, fell exclaiming: 'Oh God! That I could see my mother', and instantly expired. Lieut. John A. Oates, my beloved brother, was pierced through with eight bullets and fell mortally wounded."

Maine State ArchivesGreat gaps also appeared in the ranks of the 20th Maine. Chamberlain's men were holding their own, though the position was becoming more precarious as the frightful minutes dragged by. Then an officer spied Confederates moving toward the regiment's left flank. "I immediately stretched my regiment to the left by taking intervals," Chamberlain wrote. "My officers and men understood my wishes so well that this movement was executed under fire, the right wing keeping up the fire, without giving the enemy any occasion to seize or even suspect their advantage. They renewed the assault on our whole front and for an hour the fighting was severe. Squads of the enemy broke through our line and the fight was literally hand to hand. The edge of the fight rolled backward and forward like a wave." Shouts for ammunition filled the air as cartridge boxes emptied. Some men had a few cartridges left while others had none, even after rifling the boxes of the dead and wounded. Knowing that the next charge would break his thin line, Chamberlain decided to take the initiative away from the 15th Alabama: "At that crisis I ordered the bayonet. The word was enough. It ran like fire along the line, from man to man and rose to a shout, with which they sprang forward upon the enemy, now not 30 yards away."

War Between the Union & Confederacy The hillside echoed with the distinctive metallic click of hundreds of bayonets on rifle barrels. With a cheer, the 20th Maine rushed down the body-strewn slope. The exhausted Alabamians were caught off guard by this audacious move and scattered. Those who ran eastward were caught in a hail of bullets from the 20th's detached Company B, lying behind a stone wall 100 yards away. Confusion reigned as the 15th Alabama melted into the trees. "We ran like a herd of wild cattle," Oates lamented. "On the top of the mountain I made an attempt to halt and reform the regiment, but the men were helping the wounded and disabled comrades and scattered in the woods among the rocks. The dead literally covered the ground, blood stood in puddles on the rocks. The ground was soaked with the blood of as brave men as ever fell on the red field of battle." Assisted by soldiers from the adjacent 83rd Pennsylvania, Chamberlain's men rounded up 400 prisoners from the 15th and 47th Alabama regiments, including a number of officers.

Laziness is the father of invention. The best tools all come from wanting to get out of work.

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And there will be no mention of lactating man-boobs on this thread.

DOH!

I thought I was going to puke when the MSM put up those semi-nude pictures of the pregnant wo-man... Whatever she is/was. The one that was on Oprah or the morning shows or whatever. How about a little fracking dignity?

No freakshow photos here, please. Let's stick with biologically correct hotties.

Cheese is the base of all good pizzas

- Papa Giuseppe 1962

I think there is wisdom in that for all of us.

The kid is not my son.

-Michael Jackson

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

stick 'em in a bra thanks.

Doubt is the father of invention.

No, that's Al Gore.

I thought the need was the mother of invention?

re: #11 Meremortal

That's Dumb Gore

re: #12 winston06

Necessity is the mother of invention

re: #2 experiencedtraveller

With John Bolton as Sec. of State!

Misery was a Democrat. Bill was a Liar.

Hilary Clinton 2008

re: #6 stevieray

Laziness is the father of invention. The best tools all come from wanting to get out of work.

Thats not too far from the old saying that I learned long ago when I first started working in manufacturing. Give your toughest job to your laziest employee and they'll figure out the easiest way to do it. That is so true. I've seen it work dozens of times.

The left is miserable.

Me, 2008

My house doubled in value over 3 years.

Then I bought it.

I am so disappointed to find out that Gore didnt invent global warming. I was so sure with the amount of toxic gas he puts out we could have capped him in a couple of years .. not a couple of decades.

- Issac Assimov 1967

re: #14 winston06

Necessity is the mother of invention

Doubt and Necessity get it on for the betterment of us all.

re: #14 winston06

Necessity is the mother of invention

Yeah but Father Time pays child support ... just remember that.

April is the cruelest month.
T.S.Eliot
T.S.Eliot is the cruelest poet.
April

re: #13 winston06

That's Dumb Gore

Is there any other kind?

re: #6 stevieray

Laziness is the father of invention. The best tools all come from wanting to get out of work.

Ha ha ha!

Last week my son wanted to make scrambled eggs for himself but wasn't sure how to do it right. Mr Wolf tried to tell him, but Sonny Wolf says "NO. I want Mom to teach me. She always does things the easy way."
Not that I'm lazy, mind you, but.....................

E pur si muove. [Nevertheless, it moves.]
--Galileo Galilei, attributed, upon being forced by the Inquisition in 1663 to recant his heretical view that the Earth orbited the sun, an idea advanced earlier by Polish astronomer Mikołaj Kopernik ("Copernicus").

Another quote attributed to Galileo:

It is surely harmful to souls to make it a heresy to believe what is proved.

For some reason that seems relevant around these parts...

F=MA
/You have insulted my religion!

Frank was the first Mother of Invention.

re: #15 NY Nana

With John Bolton as Sec. of State!

HOPE ! But the Senate would never confirm him.
Joe Lieberman !

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

The first step in troubleshooting a complicated piece of equipment is to cycle power. That works 98% of the time. For the other 2%, swap boards until you create a different problem. Then put all the original boards back in and cycle power again.

Thats how I roll.

re: #6 stevieray

Laziness is the father of invention. The best tools all come from wanting to get out of work.

Lazy men and desperate women are the parents of invention.

It is what it is. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Aint nothing to it but to do it.

Laziness is the brother-in-law of doubt.

re: #35 Just Above Average

That sounds just above average.

Gumball!

The opposite of good is better.

re: #33 mich-again

The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts.

re: #25 wolfie

Ha ha ha!

Last week my son wanted to make scrambled eggs for himself but wasn't sure how to do it right. Mr Wolf tried to tell him, but Sonny Wolf says "NO. I want Mom to teach me. She always does things the easy way."
Not that I'm lazy, mind you, but.....................

You're efficient!

re: #17 mich-again

Thats not too far from the old saying that I learned long ago when I first started working in manufacturing. Give your toughest job to your laziest employee and they'll figure out the easiest way to do it. That is so true. I've seen it work dozens of times.

Mr. DT is in charge of wilderness survival up at the Boy scout camp. He brought along a 5 gallon bucket and a toilet plunger. He cut a small round hole in the bucket lid, put the plunger in the bucket, and handle through the lid and voila - a washing machine.

re: #41 Killgore Trout

The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts.

The problem is when you have extra parts at the end.

Nobody fears the fool.

re: #38 Roentgen

I try and... just sometimes...I succeed.

re: #42 stevieray

You're efficient!

That's it! :)
That's the story and I'm sticking to it!

Cherish these, the lazy, hazy days of summer.

re: #32 Roentgen

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

I'd certainly want to clean it before eating with it, though.

re: #43 DistantThunder

I saw that cartoon, too.

re: #43 DistantThunder

Washing clothes with a toilet plunger? Does he churn butter with that contraption too?

re: #44 DistantThunder

The problem is when you have extra parts at the end.

Every machine comes with spare parts and extra hardware.

Well, what's this then? A shiny new thread?

CTP - It's been my experience that if you can connect and log on to your router, but the router's not seeing the cable modem, powering down the cable modem for a half-minute, then powering back on, will often fix it. Leave the router powered up and connected to the cable modem, and as the modem comes on line, it should register the hardware address it finds on its Ethernet connector.

I think some modems store the MAC of their last connected hardware and don't dynamically re-register if the new hardware isn't visible as the modem boots, nor if the LAN-side MAC (PC or router) changes after the modem has booted.

For such modems, whenever you change the MAC address connecting to the modem's network port, toggle power to the modem while leaving the PC or router powered up and physically connected to the modem.

Hope this help!

re: #52 mich-again

I always view the extra parts as inefficient design.

re: #31 wolfie

HOPE ! But the Senate would never confirm him.
Joe Lieberman !

We must have a Republican majority in both branches...

I think that in a McCain administration, Bolton would have a chance. Lieberman? I do not like or trust him. He was Albore's lap dog and Court Jew, and he also flip flops on a dime.

He changes parties like Mayor Booberg.

/It' s a loooooong, looooong time from May July to December November...

For Lizards following last night's news re:
Armed Thug Youths in Bangkok Suburbs...

...my son's school was ordered to wear NON-uniforms (boys & girls) today, and the only thugs spotted were few in number and hanging out near THEIR school, 2 kilometers from OUR school...

It appears to be over... an insane moment among insane times...

Thanks again for your concern and prayers.

I thought it was "Mothers are the necessity of invention?"

He who says crappy saying first without wisdom ... ends up washing the dishes for the week.

- My Mother 1993

not contributing much, have a flare of gout in left hand, index knuckle, in much pain, so yous wont get ID argments from me, too slow.........

re: #52 mich-again

Every machine comes with spare parts and extra hardware.

And unlike socks, which disappear in the laundry, screws from a disassembled laptop multiply once they have been removed from the machine.

re: #41 Killgore Trout

The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts.

After a few years of doing that you can build up a large collection of strange parts.

Ever notice that there're always a part or two left over from any project?

Hang up your party hats, kids! A liberal moonbat columnist from my hometown thinks we don't deserve a July 4th celebration this year.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

F=MA
/You have insulted my religion!

The worship of fish? ;) Quite a new avatar!

Invention is the necessity of evolution..

HELLO! i am rugby and i am a dead rat from beyoncd the GRAVE! does anyone remember me?

i am only tryign my new imporved AVATAR to see how it lookss?! then it is back to rat heaven for me.

kiss! goodbye

re: #61 Da_Beerfreak

After a few years of doing that you can build up a large collection of strange parts.

Ever notice that there're always a part or two left over from any project?

Sculpture!

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

HELLO! i am rugby and i am a dead rat from beyoncd the GRAVE! does anyone remember me?

i am only tryign my new imporved AVATAR to see how it lookss?! then it is back to rat heaven for me.

kiss! goodbye

Apparently, there is no spell checker in Rat Heaven.

re: #62 Wyatt Earp

Hang up your party hats, kids! A liberal moonbat columnist from my hometown thinks we don't deserve a July 4th celebration this year.

I posted that twerp in spinoffs earlier.
I think maybe have him trade place with a Darfur refugee would improve his outlook.

re: #55 NY Nana

Your take on Lieberman is interesting.
I usually disagree with him on domestic issues, but I'd trust him with foreign affairs more than most. He is patriotic American and also a good friend to Israel, don't you think?

But I'd also like Bolton most of all!

I'm going one step beyond Darwinism.

I'm entering the world of Intelligent Dating.

I figure its more than a theory.

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I always view the extra parts as inefficient design.

I'm amazed these days with those build it yourself furniture kits that come with exactly the right number of parts. Back in the day there was so much extra hardware in the kit you wondered if you forgot a step along the way.

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

HELLO! i am rugby and i am a dead rat from beyoncd the GRAVE! does anyone remember me?

i am only tryign my new imporved AVATAR to see how it lookss?! then it is back to rat heaven for me.

kiss! goodbye

you dirty rat, you.

re: #19 BigPapa ROFL! Sorry to hear that BigPapa! But wait a while -in five or seven years it'll probably go back up to what you paid for it!

re: #62 Wyatt Earp

Hang up your party hats, kids! A liberal moonbat columnist from my hometown thinks we don't deserve a July 4th celebration this year.

Rush read parts of that on his show today. It's the absolute epitome of leftist liberal guilt run amok. It is surreal, in it's insanity.

re: #59 A Kiwi Infidel

OUCH ! :(
Sorry to hear that, Kiwi.

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

Tiny avatar... If you are trying to stay under the size limit, one way to do it with a larger image is to have only a few colors, so a jpeg compression works very well.

Jerusalem bulldozer terrorist's 'heart broken by Jewish girl'

Relatives of Hussam Dwaith, the bulldozer driver who killed three and injured dozens in a terror attack on Jerusalem's streets, have said that he had never recovered from a doomed romance with a young Jewish woman and a spell in prison.

Right, or maybe he just wanted to kill Jews.

Though his mother was earlier seen ululating from the balcony of the family home, crying out "God have mercy on him, he is a shaheed [martyr]," her family said later she had collapsed and could not receive visitors.

/what's wrong with this picture?

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

Is that ratspeak?

My new concepts with Intelligent Dating

First .. the date you go out with always brings a less attractive friend just to make her feel good.

If she's intelligent you dont want to make out with her .. you want to read her book.

If she's got an attractive figure, white teeth and real parts and lives in America .. there is something wrong with her.

re: #77 Killian Bundy

It is a b*tch when the truth sets in.

re: #75 wolfie

OUCH ! :(
Sorry to hear that, Kiwi.

thank you, and a warning. beware of hypertension med called bendroflourazide (sp) coz it interferes with the kidneys ability to remove uric acid leading to build up in joints and then gout. a proper bastard.

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

Of course we remember you.
The rat that was first in leaving the sinking ship.

(Or you were pushed, or something like that...)

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

HELLO! i am rugby and i am a dead rat from beyoncd the GRAVE! does anyone remember me?

i am only tryign my new imporved AVATAR to see how it lookss?! then it is back to rat heaven for me.

kiss! goodbye

Yeah, now you're going to tell us about gay scenes in cowboy movies, aren't you.

re: #68 jcm

I posted that twerp in spinoffs earlier.
I think maybe have him trade place with a Darfur refugee would improve his outlook.

I'm guessing that after about five minutes he'll be begging to come back. What a toad.

re: #81 A Kiwi Infidel

thank you, and a warning. beware of hypertension med called bendroflourazide (sp) coz it interferes with the kidneys ability to remove uric acid leading to build up in joints and then gout. a proper bastard.

yeah it kills you via the kidneys .. which means your initial heart problems arent what you die of.

And yet the medical establishment backs it wholly.

Rat Singing!

re: #82 Dar ul Harb

Of course we remember you.
The rat that was first in leaving the sinking ship.

(Or you were pushed, or something like that...)

yeah but look who he took with him. assuming its a he. if he is a she then more so a "dirty rat"

re: #65 Rugby the Rat

Is that you Throbert?

re: #78 Cartman

Is that ratspeak?

He types better than Archy the cockroach.

re: #32 Roentgen
What, no hat tip to Yogi Berra?!

re: #70 Buster Bunny

I'm going one step beyond Darwinism.

I'm entering the world of Intelligent Dating.

I figure its more than a theory.

You figure wrong.
It's a delusion!

re: #85 Buster Bunny

yeah it kills you via the kidneys .. which means your initial heart problems arent what you die of.

And yet the medical establishment backs it wholly.

'zackly, coz its cheap. but a simple pre-med blood test, and a 4 week follow up on changes in uric acid levels would avoid the prob.

re: #83 Occasional Reader

Yeah, now you're going to tell us about gay homosexual scenes in cowboy sheepherder movies, aren't you.

Fixdat forya, OR...

/Well, Rat?

re: #77 Killian Bundy

Palio and Jewliet?

re: #81 A Kiwi Infidel

A whole series of Beta Blockers seem to cause more problems than they solve. The fact that they slow you down and cause you to have old age symptoms at an earlier age .. doesnt seem to worry the medics.

Sum it up nicely .. it kills your kidneys .. and then you die a painful death linked to gout and kidney failiure. Not the best way to go.

re: #94 mich-again

Palio and Jewliet?

I'm going to say its more likely she never knew he existed

Latest news on hostage rescue- this is awesome:

The hostages, who had been divided in three groups, were taken to a rendezvous with two disguised MI-17 helicopters piloted by Colombian military agents — one on the ground, the other hovering above. The choppers were painted white, without insignias.

Betancourt said her hands and feet were bound, which she called "humiliating."

At first she thought the pilots — a crew of four with nine "assistants" dressed in white — were from a relief organization. Then she saw their Che Guevara shirts and assumed they were rebels.

Only when they were airborne did she notice that Cesar, who had treated her so cruelly for so many years, was naked and blindfolded on the floor.

Money quote in bold. Pretty hilarious that the Columbian military tricked the kidnappers like this, and wore Che shirts to complete the picture. This is who the stupid leftist college kids here in the States identify with.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

F=MA

Saw that equation and my mind translated it as FEMA...

hmmm inertia of a bureaucracy?

Letter to Thomas Jefferson

The Court of King George III London, England

July 10, 1776

Mr. Thomas Jefferson c/o The Continental Congress Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Dear Mr. Jefferson:

We have read your "Declaration of Independence" with great interest. Certainly, it represents a considerable undertaking, and many of your statements do merit serious consideration. Unfortunately, the Declaration as a whole fails to meet recently adopted specifications for proposals to the Crown, so we must return the document to you for further refinement. The questions which follow might assist you in your process of revision:

1. In your opening paragraph you use the phrase "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God." What are these laws? In what way are they the criteria on which you base your central arguments? Please document with citations from the recent literature.

2. In the same paragraph you refer to the "opinions of mankind." Whose polling data are you using? Without specific evidence, it seems to us the "opinions of mankind" are a matter of opinion.

3. You hold certain truths to be "self-evident." Could you please elaborate. If they are as evident as you claim then it should not be difficult for you to locate the appropriate supporting statistics.

4. "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" seem to be the goals of your proposal. These are not measurable goals. If you were to say that "among these is the ability to sustain an average life expectancy in six of the 13 colonies of at least 55 years, and to enable newspapers in the colonies to print news without outside interference, and to raise the average income of the colonists by 10 percent in the next 10 years," these could be measurable goals. Please clarify.

5. You state that "Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government...." Have you weighed this assertion against all the alternatives? What are the trade-off considerations?

6. Your description of the existing situation is quite extensive. Such a long list of grievances should precede the statement of goals, not follow it. Your problem statement needs improvement.

7. Your strategy for achieving your goal is not developed at all. You state that the colonies "ought to be Free and Independent States," and that they are "Absolved from All Allegiance to the British Crown." Who or what must change to achieve this objective? In what way must they change? What specific steps will you take to overcome the resistance? How long will it take? We have found that a little foresight in these areas helps to prevent careless errors later on. How cost- effective are your strategies?

8. Who among the list of signatories will be responsible for implementing your strategy? Who conceived it? Who provided the theoretical research? Who will constitute the advisory committee? Please submit an organization chart and vitas of the principal investigators.

9. You must include an evaluation design. We have been requiring this since Queen Anne's War.

10. What impact will your problem have? Your failure to include any assessment of this inspires little confidence in the long-range prospects of your undertaking.

11. Please submit a PERT diagram, an activity chart, itemized budget, and manpower utilization matrix.

We hope that these comments prove useful in revising your "Declaration of Independence." We welcome the submission of your revised proposal. Our due date for unsolicited proposals is July 31, 1776. Ten copies with original signatures will be required.

Sincerely,

Management Analyst to the British Crown

re: #97 gop_patriot

Latest news on hostage rescue- this is awesome:

Money quote in bold. Pretty hilarious that the Columbian military tricked the kidnappers like this, and wore Che shirts to complete the picture. This is who the stupid leftist college kids here in the States identify with.

Agreed. Absolutely awesome!

re: #95 Buster Bunny

A whole series of Beta Blockers seem to cause more problems than they solve. The fact that they slow you down and cause you to have old age symptoms at an earlier age .. doesnt seem to worry the medics.

Sum it up nicely .. it kills your kidneys .. and then you die a painful death linked to gout and kidney failiure. Not the best way to go.

as soon as i got gout, 2 years ago, i dropped the bendro. but i havent been able drop the uric acid levels.

gotta go now and get the lads to feed the cattle. take care, y'all

re: #10 Buster Bunny

stick 'em in a bra thanks.

Since you mention it, how is loppyd's bra doing? Have we heard from it lately?

re: #97 gop_patriot

Latest news on hostage rescue- this is awesome:

Money quote in bold.

I disagree. This is the money quote:

Only when they were airborne did she notice that Cesar, who had treated her so cruelly for so many years, was naked and blindfolded on the floor.

Heh.

Good night.

re: #59 A Kiwi Infidel
Gout? Huh, how do y'all get rid of it or medicate it?

re: #81 A Kiwi Infidel

I'm jotting that down so I'll remember it.
One of my sisters take BP medicine, but I don't know what kind.

Let's give them a state:

"I saw the tractor going on top of the cars, and I saw the police trying to kill [the terrorist]," Aronson said. "The shooting didn't get him, so he kept driving on top of the cars" - including the vehicle with Onterman and her baby, Efrat.

The car, a white station wagon, could be seen strewn in pieces on Jaffa Road, with diapers and baby toys falling out of its broken side.

A body bag, presumably containing Onterman's corpse, sat near the car as emergency crews went on to assist other wounded in the area. Efrat was taken by rescue crews and transferred to Shaare Zedek Hospital. She was later given to her father Ido.

Efrat was the second baby to arrive among the dozens of wounded who were rushed into the emergency room there. Doctors and nurses were able to reunite the first baby, Ofir Sinai, with her mother, Shani, even as they discovered that Efrat had lost her mother.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Oh yeah, that's definitely great. But the Che shirts disguise just killed me.

Is KT still up?

Global Warming Equals Bad Violins?

Wood density holds key to Stradivarius sweet sound

Since differentials in wood density affect vibration and therefore sound quality, the discovery may well explain the superiority of the Cremonese violins, they reported in the online journal PLoS ONE on Wednesday.

So why is the maple and spruce wood in a Stradivarius so different?

Part of the reason may be that trees grow slightly differently today than in the past.

"Climate difference could explain part of it but treatment of the wood could be another explanation. A third answer could simply be the ageing of the wood over the past 300 years," Dr Berend Stoel of the Leiden University Medical Center told Reuters.

re: #97 gop_patriot

If that doesn't call for a Cuba Libre, I don't know what does!

Cuba Libres on the house for everyone !

I wonder why Hugo Chavez hasn't congratulated the Columbians on the hostage rescue operation yet?

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

Head's up to fellow bloggers, lots of crap shaking loose in Pakistan, you might want to watch over the holidays, I'm going to be out of pocket.

There's a schism in the TTP / Baitullah Mehsud Taliban

Food and Fuel inflation hit records there today, there will be shutterdowns

There's Friction between the Northern Balochi Tribes and the Wazir Mehsuds - there's a peace negotiation going on, but that could breakdown.

Musharraf says we don't have to notify them anymore if we want to strike Al Qaeda....

The Khyber Offensive melted now that the Army's moved in, but they moved out of Swat, Swat is erupting again.

There's an Operation against FATA -- probably short term punitive expedition

NGO"s are pulling their personnel out of Balochistan and NWFP now as that's where the fighting will be if there's a full on civil war. If there's not, the Taliban will be hitting those places most often now that the War's back on.

I posted links one thread down.

re: #111 mich-again

The same reason Spiccoli hasn't congratulated Bush for winning Iraq.

re: #112 realwest

Goodnight, RW !

re: #113 Thanos

Thanks for the heads up.

How in the world are we 100+ posts into an "...of invention" thread and the only mention of Zappa is in the automated quote in the sidebar?

re: #111 mich-again

I wonder why Hugo Chavez hasn't congratulated the Columbians on the hostage rescue operation yet?

Because they wore shirts depicting his hero, Che Guevara, to trick the criminals.

re: #109 jcm

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that one one out but my guess is that they haven't really discovered anything.

re: #113 Thanos

Good info, Thanos. Thanks!
(I'm going to check on those links downthread right now.)

re: #14 winston06

Necessity is the mother of invention

oh please..... *everyone* knows Frank Zappa is the Mother of Invention.

re: #69 wolfie

Your take on Lieberman is interesting.

I usually disagree with him on domestic issues, but I'd trust him with foreign affairs more than most. He is patriotic American and also a good friend to Israel, don't you think?

But I'd also like Bolton most of all!

He is our 'next door neighbor' geographically. We are about 10 minutes from the CT border, and news re the US Senators and members of the house get coverage here..NY, NJ and CT.

He lost the Demonrat primary to a real jerk, Ned Lamont...and ran as an Indy, and won. But he is also a close friend of the thug, US Sen. Chris Dodd (D) CT

Re foreign affairs? I am afraid that he would waffle...he is a friend of Israel. At least I can find something good to say about him!

He was also mixed up years ago in some real estate dealings in Stamford, CT, IIRC, with and for his late uncle.

Bolton? He is just the best, especially after Condi.

Bolton would clean out State, which has been a club for Jew haters all my life..and before, during and after WWII? Reprehensible.

How in the world are we 100+ posts into an "...of invention" thread and the only mention of Zappa is in the automated quote in the sidebar?

Because "doubt" and "Frank Zappa" don't exactly go well in the same sentence, except this one.re: #117 Abu Al-Poopypants

Thank you, re: #121 redc1c4...

re: #117 Abu Al-Poopypants

How in the world are we 100+ posts into an "...of invention" thread and the only mention of Zappa is in the automated quote in the sidebar?

because my ISP is a POS.....

/multiple reloads due to server timeouts.

ATT sucks bowling balls through IV tubing tied up in knots & heat sealed at both ends. they could suck start a deuce & a half with a siezed engine and the tranny in 6X6 high. they suck so bad....

/you get the idea.

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that one one out but my guess is that they haven't really discovered anything.

I recall reading a theory that Strad may have used wood salvaged from old buildings. Apparently he was financially strapped. The wood had been in the buildings for at least a century and was extraordinarily dry as a result and his treatment of this very dry old wood is the key to the sound.

Now that Zappa's been mentioned, anyone else got One Shot Deal yet?

re: #101 A Kiwi Infidel

as soon as i got gout, 2 years ago, i dropped the bendro. but i havent been able drop the uric acid levels.

gout no fun, my foot is still sore after about seven weeks.

Venezuela priests open pro-Chavez church which demonstrates what Thomas Jefferson said a long time ago...

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." --Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:119

re: #6 stevieray

Laziness is the father of invention. The best tools all come from wanting to get out of work.

This is so true. The dull people simply stand in the ditch all day, slinging earth with a shovel. The smart guy invents the backhoe.

re: #111 mich-again

I wonder why Hugo Chavez hasn't congratulated the Columbians on the hostage rescue operation yet?

Whatever you do, don't hold your breath!

Wanna borrow an extra / I have saved?

The BBC is not sure whether the bulldozer terrorists motivation is "personal or political." Does it matter? In Islam, the personal and political are the same.

Later the police identify him as a 30-year-old Palestinian father of two, a resident of east Jerusalem. His motivation is unclear - whether personal or political.

And...

Three Palestinian militant groups have claimed responsibility but at the moment it appears that the man was acting alone. What is certain is that he was trying to kill as many people as possible.

Whether he acted "alone" or not is immaterial. The fact that three Palestinian "militant" groups claim responsibility underscores the point. This guy is part of a death-obsessed Islamist culture that has no place in the Holy Land or anywhere else. Whether he has formal ties to Hamas or Fatah or CAIR or Satan himself, it makes no difference: he is manifestly part of the Global Jihadi Murder Faction. They all want sharia or death. Even if they get sharia, they'll still want death. Just look at the atrocities Muslims commit against other Muslims.

Doubt is the father of invention.

— Galileo Galilei

I thought Frank Zappa said that.

re: #133 Purple Prose

The BBC is not sure whether the bulldozer terrorists motivation is "personal or political." Does it matter? In Islam, the personal and political are the same.

Whether he acted "alone" or not is immaterial. The fact that three Palestinian "militant" groups claim responsibility underscores the point. This guy is part of a death-obsessed Islamist culture that has no place in the Holy Land or anywhere else. Whether he has formal ties to Hamas or Fatah or CAIR or Satan himself, it makes no difference: he is manifestly part of the Global Jihadi Murder Faction. They all want sharia or death. Even if they get sharia, they'll still want death. Just look at the atrocities Muslims commit against other Muslims.

Sorry. Here's the link: [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #33 mich-again

The first step in troubleshooting a complicated piece of equipment is to cycle power. That works 98% of the time. For the other 2%, swap boards until you create a different problem. Then put all the original boards back in and cycle power again.

Thats how I roll.

Never underestimate the power of First Echelon Field Maintenance (i.e. give it a good smack). If that fails, use a bigger hammer.

Doubt is the father of invention? I doubt it.

Har...

re: #109 jcm

Sounds like a topic for Kilgore

re: #126 jcm

There's another theory that the logs he bought were soaked in the harbor and the salinity bust the cells of the wood. It's mostly BS, I don't know anyone who can I identify a Strad by listening to it. It's mystique, legend smoke and mirrors.

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Apparently, there is no spell checker in Rat Heaven.

actually there IS a spell checker in Rat Heaven but she is wokring off-site now! so forgive my mistakes!

but of courwse we have EVERYTHNIG in rat ehaven otherwise it wouldnt be heavenly now would it?

FOR EXAMPLE!!! just in my own apratment in Rat Heaven i have:

• a beautiful strawberry cupcake
• a Nitnendo-4000 holosuite w/ rat-sex modules
• an electric shiatsu pilLOw
• a bag of pork rinds
• a live walrus made out of delicous PB/fudge ice cream (yes it is true! i can eat him and eat him and he miraculously grows back!)
• a robot maid to clean up after me
• an amesthyst-encrusted Fabergé egg with an exquisitely tiny wind-up gold & platfinum danc ing John Tarvolta inside it!
• an OLYMPIC size pool that is only one inch deep because i like to splash around but hate it wehn i cant feel the bottmt with my feet • a wurlitzer jukebox WITH BUBBLES!

so there.

ps. i am a rat NOT a so-called "homo" sapien!

"The second day of July, 1776, will be a memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that this will be celebrated by succeeding generations, as the great Anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp, shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end of the continent to the other, from this time forward forever."

John Adams.

Independence was declared, voted on the 2nd. The document was finalized and signed on the 4th.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

There's another theory that the logs he bought were soaked in the harbor and the salinity bust the cells of the wood. It's mostly BS, I don't know anyone who can I identify a Strad by listening to it. It's mystique, legend smoke and mirrors.

Spendy smoke and mirrors!

re: #59 A Kiwi Infidel

not contributing much, have a flare of gout in left hand, index knuckle, in much pain, so yous wont get ID argments from me, too slow.........

Be well, I am no stranger to gout.

re: #140 Rugby the Rat

No Cheese?
Not even one little slice of cheese in rat heaven?

Well... gotta get some sleep.

Dawn comes soon enough for the working class.

Checking out....

“There is a limit to the legitimate interference of collective opinion with individual independence: and to find that limit, and maintain it against encroachment, is as indispensable to a good condition of human affairs, as protection against politica”
John Stuart Mill

re: #133 Purple Prose

It wasn't a bulldozer. It was a front end loader. Much faster and more nimble piece of equipment. Some say thats a minor difference, but its not.

re: #136 Alberta Oil Peon

That is referred to as the Fonzarelli smack and it works best on vending machines and juke boxes.

re: #141 jcm

Theocrat !
Neanderthal nationalist !

///

For a while now, I have been wondering about Fareed Zakaria, the media darling who resembles a swarthy Tony Robbins. He writes a book and goes on a lecture tour talking about the post-American world. Fine. It's a complex and multipolar world. He is the Indian Muslim version of the Indian non-Muslim Pico Ayer, a cool Indian hip cat. But while Pico Ayer is just an observer of cultures, Zakaria is much more about politics and much less ironic commentary. Pico Ayer deserved to be a hip cat but has faded from the spotlight a bit, unfortunately, and the times demand a "moderate" and "articulate" Muslim Desi hip cat rather than a non-Muslim one. Zakaria fits the bill and writes regularly now for Newsweek and Time, so he gets his message across. He seems to have an agenda, and you can draw your own conclusions about what kind.

Witness:

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

re: #117 Abu Al-Poopypants

How in the world are we 100+ posts into an "...of invention" thread and the only mention of Zappa is in the automated quote in the sidebar?

The Mothers of Invention at the Anaheim Convention

The Mothers of Invention at the Anaheim Convention

re: #136 Alberta Oil Peon

Never underestimate the power of First Echelon Field Maintenance (i.e. give it a good smack). If that fails, use a bigger hammer.

the US Army refers to 1st echelon as PMCS, or as we phrased it:
"Park the Mother and Call the Shop"

my personal motto was "maintenance is for those who hate walking." %-)

re: #139 Killgore Trout

There are people who have been picking up old growth logs that sunk in the harbors around the logging towns in MI last century and they note that the wood in those old trees had much finer grain because the trees grew so slow in the thick forests that had been there for centuries. Now the wood grows faster and the grain isn't nearly as thick. Would that wood make a good violin or would it be too waterlogged?

re: #142 jcm

Yup, I'll put up a George Gemunder ($20,000) against a Strad ($1.5 mil or more) in a blind hearing test among the world's greatest experts and I'd bet my bottom dollar they don't do much better that 50% on guessing which is which.

re: #141 jcm

"The second day of July, 1776, will be a memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that this will be celebrated by succeeding generations, as the great Anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp, shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end of the continent to the other, from this time forward forever."

John Adams.

Independence was declared, voted on the 2nd. The document was finalized and signed on the 4th.

"Missed it by that much."

Don Adams

re: #99 Dustyvet

Letter to Thomas Jefferson

The Court of King George III London, England

July 10, 1776

Mr. Thomas Jefferson c/o The Continental Congress Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Dear Mr. Jefferson:

We have read your "Declaration of Independence" with great interest. Certainly, it represents a considerable undertaking, and many of your statements do merit serious consideration. Unfortunately, the Declaration as a whole fails to meet recently adopted specifications for proposals to the Crown, so we must return the document to you for further refinement. The questions which follow might assist you in your process of revision:

1. In your opening paragraph you use the phrase "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God." What are these laws? In what way are they the criteria on which you base your central arguments? Please document with citations from the recent literature.

2. In the same paragraph you refer to the "opinions of mankind." Whose polling data are you using?

...

11. Please submit a PERT diagram, an activity chart, itemized budget, and manpower utilization matrix.

We hope that these comments prove useful in revising your "Declaration of Independence." We welcome the submission of your revised proposal. Our due date for unsolicited proposals is July 31, 1776. Ten copies with original signatures will be required.

Sincerely,

Management Analyst to the British Crown

Letter from the Continental Congress to Management Analyst: Date, July 30, 1776.
Dear Sir,

We have the pleasure of your letter dated August 2, 1776, requiring a response by July 31. Please note the date on this reply; you will observe that it falls within your time frame.

We considered including your letter as another grievance. Surely it is a grievous letter, and the common opinion of mankind cannot hold your type in high esteem. Happily for us, you will never get around to doing anything besides composing letters. Your Cornwallis is, according to our spies, now engaged in submitting, in ten copies, individual requests for each cannon, each soldier, and each bullet he intends to use should our disagreement come to war. We hear he just about has Private Sims outfitted, and Corporal Jones is next in line.

Should you wish to continue the correspondence, please provide us with a 20 digit password and a 40 digit personal ID number. These must be memorized. On no account are you to write either number down.

All correspondence must, as usual, be submitted in 13 handwritten copies, each in your own hand. Our members of Congress want to know your thoughts on this vital topic. Cordially yours, T. Jefferson.

re: #104 realwest

Gout? Huh, how do y'all get rid of it or medicate it?

Antibiotics, drink lots of cranberry juice and lay off the vodka for a few days. Indomethacine, 50 mg three times a day.

re: #93 Carridine

re: #83 Occasional Reader Yeah, now you're going to tell us about gay homosexual scenes in cowboy sheepherder movies, aren't you.

Fixdat forya, OR...

/Well, Rat?

HOW MANY TIMES do i have to tell youk nuckleheads? Throbert & I are just friends (though not "w/benefits"!) and fromer roommates. HE!! is the polesmoker not me. Ergot, (this is french for ''therefore'' btw) you should direct queries about homosexual cowboy movies to him!?

xoxoxo but not in that way,
RUGBY

re: #152 Mich-again

There are people who have been picking up old growth logs that sunk in the harbors around the logging towns in MI last century and they note that the wood in those old trees had much finer grain because the trees grew so slow in the thick forests that had been there for centuries. Now the wood grows faster and the grain isn't nearly as thick. Would that wood make a good violin or would it be too waterlogged?

read about those throughout the great lakes.... people get top dollar for them....

the houses where i live were built 42ish, and the quality of the wood that was used in them is unbelievable. #1 used for studs..... fine grain, old growth wood as structural members no knots anywhere. clear redwood tongue & groove just painted over......

it's enough to make you cry.

/if you're sensitive. %-)

re: #156 tommygum

Antibiotics, drink lots of cranberry juice and lay off the vodka for a few days. Indomethacine, 50 mg three times a day.

for acute attacks, colchacine 'til you shit yourself is an option......

/i'll pass, thankyouverymuch. %-)

re: #157 Rugby the Rat

Are you the same rat that bit off Robert Fisk's ear in that one post way back when...

re: #157 Rugby the Rat

HOW MANY TIMES do i have to tell youk nuckleheads? Throbert & I are just friends (though not "w/benefits"!) and fromer roommates. HE!! is the polesmoker not me. Ergot, (this is french for ''therefore'' btw) you should direct queries about homosexual cowboy movies to him!?

xoxoxo but not in that way,
RUGBY

i believe that the ergot has had an effect on you.....

/seeing colors?

CAIR is evolving. They've realized that looking cool with a touch of urban chic gangster may play well and win converts. Here's CAIR's coolest dude, Ahmed Rehab, CAIR-Chicago's Executive Director:

[Link: www.ahmedrehab.com...]

[Link: www.cairchicago.org...]

re: #133 Purple Prose

The BBC is not sure whether the bulldozer terrorists motivation is "personal or political." Does it matter? In Islam, the personal and political are the same.

Whether he acted "alone" or not is immaterial. The fact that three Palestinian "militant" groups claim responsibility underscores the point. This guy is part of a death-obsessed Islamist culture that has no place in the Holy Land or anywhere else. Whether he has formal ties to Hamas or Fatah or CAIR or Satan himself, it makes no difference: he is manifestly part of the Global Jihadi Murder Faction. They all want sharia or death. Even if they get sharia, they'll still want death. Just look at the atrocities Muslims commit against other Muslims.

Yes, it sounds to me that it is more likely an instance of Sudden Jihad Syndrome rather than a well-planned and coordinated terrorist attack. But it all boils down to the same outcome: crazy mohammedan kills innocent people.

re: #158 redc1c4

I heard (can't remember where) that folks back east refused to believe tales of the size of virgin redwoods that were being cut by early loggers in the west.

re: #147 Mich-again

It wasn't a bulldozer. It was a front end loader. Much faster and more nimble piece of equipment. Some say thats a minor difference, but its not.

What? You're saying the media is wrong in its reporting that it was a bulldozer? How could that be? How could the media be wrong? That's just... impossible.

re: #164 solomonpanting

I heard (can't remember where) that folks back east refused to believe tales of the size of virgin redwoods that were being cut by early loggers in the west.

I love logging. I have books on early logging and am building a logging model railroad.

G'nite all time for some sleep here, but I will leave you with Krispy Kreme Bacon Cheeseburgers

I'll pass on the KK burgers. G'nite all.

re: #167 Thanos

Ugh, those look disgusting. Then again I find krispy kremes disgusting when they are plain.

re: #166 tommygum

I love logging. I have books on early logging and am building a logging model railroad.

Mr Wolf's great-grandfather had a logging company up in Boyne City, MI. He also built some kind of RR for logging, which I think he ran even after the logging shut down. Some of the old pictures I've seen are amazing...........the size of the trees, etc.

re: #167 Thanos

We need to send a truckload of those to the Democrats in Denver!

Whoa, spooky!

I think I just had a blackout or something. I mean, not the electrical kind, but the whole "missing segments of time" thing -- much as if some mysterious, ethereal consciousness from another plane of existence had taken possession of my mind and body and was using me like a sock puppet to manifest itself in our physical world.

Don't you hate it when that happens, or is it just me?

re: #158 redc1c4

read about those throughout the great lakes.... people get top dollar for them....

the houses where i live were built 42ish, and the quality of the wood that was used in them is unbelievable. #1 used for studs..... fine grain, old growth wood as structural members no knots anywhere. clear redwood tongue & groove just painted over......

it's enough to make you cry.

/if you're sensitive. %-)

I just finished removing some wooden siding from my house, to make way for refinishing it in stucco. Ten inch by3/4 inch boards, some of them 16 feet long, every one 100% clear red cedar. Nary a knot in it. Came from the McMillan Bloedel Red Band sawmill in British Columbia. You can't get tht quality of wood anymore.

Needless to say, the siding will be reused for some purpose.

re: #167 Thanos

Krispy Kreme Bacon Cheeseburgers

My doctor, any doctor, would shoot me, slit my bloated belly, and toss me off the back of his yacht if I even conteplated one of those.

And, laughing all the while, he'd have stayed comfortably within Hippocrates's strictest boundaries.

re: #173 Alberta Oil Peon

I just finished removing some wooden siding from my house, to make way for refinishing it in stucco. Ten inch by3/4 inch boards, some of them 16 feet long, every one 100% clear red cedar. Nary a knot in it. Came from the McMillan Bloedel Red Band sawmill in British Columbia. You can't get tht quality of wood anymore.

Needless to say, the siding will be reused for some purpose.

Why replace that kind of wood siding with stucco? I'd take the cedar siding over stucco.

re: #172 Throbert McGee

I think I know who did it, but I won't rat him out.

re: #172 Throbert McGee

...or is it just me?

Pretty sure it was just you!

re: #164 solomonpanting

I heard (can't remember where) that folks back east refused to believe tales of the size of virgin redwoods that were being cut by early loggers in the west.

Some of those are still around, thousands of years old. You have to to Porterville for the Giant Sequoias, the Northern Coastal Redwoods are a different tree.

re: #175 Purple Prose

Why replace that kind of wood siding with stucco? I'd take the cedar siding over stucco.

Well, the siding had been painted (before my time in this place) and the paint was chalky, plus it had been hammered by last year's hailstorm, which also punched holes in the vinyl siding on the upper half of the walls. So i decided to go with stucco, which is a nice, low-mainentance finish, and reasonably hail-proof.

I didn't realize it was cedar siding until I stripped it off. Painted as it was, I thought it was composition board. Had I known it was cedar, I might have opted to simply reverse it and stain it.

My house was built in 46, and I rest on 8x8 planks of beautiful redwood. It resists bug infestation very well also.

re: #117 Abu Al-Poopypants

How in the world are we 100+ posts into an "...of invention" thread and the only mention of Zappa is in the automated quote in the sidebar?

True fact... The same high school vice principal who gave Frank Zappa demerits gave me demerits also... (Different high schools!)

Frank Zappa and Mike Nesmith switch places on the Monkees -- laffs aplenty :)

American Chestnut. Among the best furniture wood known to man.
[Link: www.chattoogariver.org...]

re: #173 Alberta Oil Peon

I just finished removing some wooden siding from my house, to make way for refinishing it in stucco. Ten inch by3/4 inch boards, some of them 16 feet long, every one 100% clear red cedar. Nary a knot in it. Came from the McMillan Bloedel Red Band sawmill in British Columbia. You can't get tht quality of wood anymore.

Needless to say, the siding will be reused for some purpose.

In the late 1980's I made several redwood decks while living on Oregon's south coast. I would go through one or two complete units of 2"x6" and pull out the clear, vertical grain pieces for the entire project. The lumber yard told me that I'd have to pay an extra three cents per board foot. I just smiled and said no problem. I believe the company cutting those boards was Miller Redwood. Today's redwood is nearly 50% sap and I refuse to use it.

My house was built in '48. Redwood true measure as well as DF , which termites love.

Lord, I love Ann Coulter

It's always the same argument. Year after year, the "moderate Republicans" so respected at The New York Times harangue us to dump the Christians, the conservatives, the Swift Boat Veterans, the "right-wing extremists," the gun-and-God clingers and the fanatical pro-lifers from our party so we can repel every American who voted for Ronald Reagan in order to win the votes of people like Christine Todd Whitman. Yes, by all means let's clear out all that deadwood and pave the way for a 49-state landslide! (For the Democrats.)

McCain: Pump This!

re: #177 Clemente

re: #172 Throbert McGee

...or is it just me?

Pretty sure it was just you!

You're a fine one to talk!

re: #178 rawmuse

Some of those are still around, thousands of years old. You have to to Porterville for the Giant Sequoias, the Northern Coastal Redwoods are a different tree.

Yes, the coastal trees are taller. There's one north of Eureka, CA. that hits the tape at around 363', enough material to construct many homes.

re: #185 rightwingva

Yeah. That was a good column. lol

/McCain is the dumbest man in America, except Obama. He is in Columbia when 3 Americans, and the most famous captive on the planet are released, and he does not offer to meet or fly them where they want to go. He is too stupid to be President. He may be a simpleton.

re: #164 solomonpanting

I heard (can't remember where) that folks back east refused to believe tales of the size of virgin redwoods that were being cut by early loggers in the west.

when i was attending the Harmony Chruch School for Excitable Boys, they told us trees were excellent cover..... i asked where the trees were. %-)

never did get used to seeing the lumber trucks going down the highway with 50 or more logs in them, instead of 4-6 pieces of one tree.

re: #188 pat
LOL! It gets better... I posted this Pat while reading it... I missed the hysterical part ;-)

The irony is, the only people McCain can count on to vote for him are the very Republicans he despises -- at least those of us who can get drunk enough on Election Day to pull the lever for him. In fact, we should organize parties around the country where Republicans can get drunk so they can vote for McCain. We can pass out clothespins with his name as a reminder and slogan-festooned vomit bags. The East Coast parties can post the number of drinks necessary for the task to help the West Coast parties. For more information, go to getdrunkandvote4mccain.com.

ROFLOL! The first post that actually gives us an action plan for Election Day!

re: #104 realwest

Gout? Huh, how do y'all get rid of it or medicate it?

First, clean up your diet, eliminate food high in purines. Second, drink a ton of water. Folk cure is tart cherry juice, probably anything with water is nearly as good. Someone suggested celery, and that seemed to help me. It usually starts in the feet, specifically the big toes. Elevate them. Stay off them, of course. Hurts like bloody hell. Aspirin is supposed to interfere with clearing, which is a bitch. Avoiding caffeine is supposed to help, too. But dietary purines are only about a third, the rest are normal metabolic products, so if you don't get better in seven to ten days, you need medication to help force the uric acid out, not to mention better pain medicine.

I made a big mistake recently, didn't realize the absolute worst food for purines was - herring! I was eating a ton of it for weeks. Ouch. Luckily, cleaning up the diet and all the above works for me. Can eat all the veggies, carbs, and sugars you want, protein in general is contraindicated, beer is supposed to be the worst, reasons unclear, other alcohol effects unclear.

Hey, gang! Watched some really stooooooopid late night tv. Just poppin' in here for a quick drive-by.

Been trying to email gop_patriot since around 8:00pm. Keep getting that damned returned mail delivery daemon.

Anybody got her email addy... try to mail to her... see if you get through...?

re: #192 LeePro

I'm here, it's messed up. lol I'll email you using another addy. :)

re: #193 gop_patriot

I'm here, it's messed up. lol I'll email you using another addy. :)

{{{gop}}}

GOOD!

:D

re: #190 rightwingva

ROFLOL! The first post that actually gives us an action plan for Election Day!

Hey, at least she's coming around.

/earlier, she swore she would never vote for McCain

re: #185 rightwingva

funniest thing there: Get drunk and vote for McCain

/think i'll start now, just so i can get up to speed in time. %-)

re: #195 Killian Bundy

Mark Levin said on his show (yesterday? today? it has been a long week) that he was announcing that he would vote for McCain.

I think McCain is going to have a brutal Presidency if he wins. The Republicans, especially the Conservative base, are NOT going to coalesce around him, regardless of what his advisers think. He is not going to get a free ride, at least that is my opinion.

I used to be a monthly contributor to the RNC. Once President Bush started talking about illegal immigrants "doing jobs that Americans refuse to do", I canceled my monthly contribution and tore up all the pledge cards they mailed to me. Today I got my very first John McCain campaign letter. I tore it up and threw it in the trash. I still don't know what I am going to do in November. I do think an Obama win will usher in a Socialist America, whether we like it or not.

i did my first credited LoL today....

enjoy!

re: #196 redc1c4

We cross-posted it :-). Hysterical post by Ann.

re: #194 LeePro

You've got mail. :)

Hope you're doing OK tonight!

re: #187 solomonpanting

Yes, the coastal trees are taller. There's one north of Eureka, CA. that hits the tape at around 363', enough material to construct many homes.

That reminds me of a hoary old joke:

Seems there was this B.C. truck logger who went on Safari in Africa as a vacation. His party wound up spending the night as the guests of a tribe of pygmies, who were very gracious hosts. After the evening meal was completed, they gathered around the campfire to swap stories. When it came his turn, the logger recounted some facts about his home province, "where I live, the trees grow so large, that one of them could be milled into enough lumber to build homes for this entire village." The pygmies all pounded the butts of their spears into the ground, and shouted, "Goolaroolonga, goolaroolonga!" He went on, "where I live, the rivers are so thick with salmon, that during the spawning run, you can walk across the river on their backs, and not get your feet wet." Again, the pygmies pounded the butts of their spears into the ground, and shouted, "Goolaroolonga, goolaroolonga!" Pleased that he was making such a positive impression, he went on, "in British Columbia, we have ranches with 100,000 acres of land, and 10,000 cattle upon them." Once again, the pygmies pounded the butts of their spears into the ground, and shouted, "Goolaroolonga, goolaroolonga!"

They all retired for the night, and the next morning, as the safari was preparing to depart, the logger noticed some unusual-looking bulls in a kraal, set apart from the other cattle of the tribe. Being a rancher, as well as a lumberman, he asked the chief of the tribe if he might enter the kraal to inspect the bulls more closely. The chief said, "certainly, my friend, but be careful not step in the goolaroolonga."

re: #198 redc1c4

i did my first credited LoL today....

enjoy!

5/5 stars!

re: #201 Alberta Oil Peon

heh!

re: #202 gop_patriot

5/5 stars!

/me bows, smiles shyly, waves to the crowd....

"Y'all are too kind."

re: #200 gop_patriot

You've got mail. :)

Hope you're doing OK tonight!

Got it! Answered! Thanks.

Will your dad survive the fright I gave him?

re: #197 rightwingva

Mark Levin said on his show (yesterday? today? it has been a long week) that he was announcing that he would vote for McCain.

I think McCain is going to have a brutal Presidency if he wins. The Republicans, especially the Conservative base, are NOT going to coalesce around him, regardless of what his advisers think. He is not going to get a free ride, at least that is my opinion.

I used to be a monthly contributor to the RNC. Once President Bush started talking about illegal immigrants "doing jobs that Americans refuse to do", I canceled my monthly contribution and tore up all the pledge cards they mailed to me. Today I got my very first John McCain campaign letter. I tore it up and threw it in the trash. I still don't know what I am going to do in November. I do think an Obama win will usher in a Socialist America, whether we like it or not.

Ditto

Texas humor:
Dear Diary,
May 3rd:
Just moved to North Texas! Now this is a state that knows how to live! Beautiful sunny days and warm balmy evenings. What a place! It is beautiful. I've finally found my home. I love it here.
June 14th:
Really heating up. Got to 100 today. Not a problem. Live in an air-conditioned home, drive an air-conditioned car. What a pleasure to see the sun everyday like this. I'm turning into a sun worshiper.
June 30th:
Had the backyard landscaped with western plants today. Lots of cactus and rocks. What a breeze to maintain. No more mowing the lawn for me. Another scorcher today, but I love it here.
July 10th:
The temperature hasn't been below 100 all week. How do people get used to this kind of heat? At least, it's kind of windy though. But getting used to the heat is taking longer than I expected.
July 15th:
Fell asleep by the community pool. (Got 3rd degree burns over 60% of my body). Missed 3 days of work. What a dumb thing to do. I learned my lesson though. Got to respect the ol' sun in a climate like this.
July 20th:
I missed Lomita (my cat) sneaking into the car when I left this morning. By the time I got to the hot car at noon, Lomita had died and swollen up to the size of a shopping bag, then popped like a water balloon.
The car now smells like Kibbles and Shits.
I learned my lesson though. No more pets in this heat. Good ol' Mr. Sun strikes again.
July 25th:
The wind sucks. It feels like a giant freaking blow dryer! And it's hot as hell. The home air-conditioner is on the fritz and the AC repairman charged $200 just to drive by and tell me he needed to order parts.
July 30th:
Been sleeping outside on the patio for 3 nights now, $225,000 house and I can't even go inside. Lomita is the lucky one. Why did I ever come here?
Aug. 4th:
It's 115 degrees. Finally got the air-conditioner fixed today. It cost $500 and gets the temperature down to 85. I hate this stupid state.
Aug. 8th:
If another wise ass cracks, 'Hot enough for you today?' I'm going to strangle him. Damn heat. By the time I get to work, the radiator is boiling over, my clothes are soaking wet, and I smell like baked cat!
Aug. 9th:
Tried to run some errands after work. Wore shorts, and when I sat on the seats in the car, I thought my ass was on fire. My skin melted to the seat. I lost 2 layers of flesh and all the hair on the back of my legs and ass . . . Now my car smells like burnt hair, fried ass , and baked cat.
Aug 10th:
The weather report might as well be a damn recording. Hot and sunny. Hot and sunny. Hot and sunny. It's been too hot to do shit for 2 damn months and the weatherman says it might really warm up next week. Doesn't it ever rain in this damn state? Water rationing will be next, so my $1700 worth of cactus will just dry up and blow over. Even the cactus can't live in this damn heat.
Aug. 14th:
Welcome to HELL! Temperature got to 115 today. Cactus are dead. Forgot to crack the window and blew the damn windshield out of the car. The installer came to fix it and guess what he asked me? "Hot enough for you today?"
My sister had to spend $1,500 to bail me out of jail. Freaking Texas. What kind of a sick demented idiot would want to live here? Will write later to let you know how the trial goes!

re: #187 solomonpanting

Yes, the coastal trees are taller. There's one north of Eureka, CA. that hits the tape at around 363', enough material to construct many homes.

Fascinating article about the coast redwoods that was in the New Yorker a few years back -- [Link: www.wesjones.com...]

The book "The Wild Trees" also covers them, along with some other big ones.

Nite all.re: #208 wannabuyaduck

Thanks. I'll read it tomorrow as my eyes are telling me to go to bed. Nite all.

re: #205 LeePro

Got it! Answered! Thanks.

Will your dad survive the fright I gave him?

Hee hee. Yep, he's a tough one. I'm still laughing about my mom starting up the paper shredder right behind him. Hahahahaha! X)

re: #164 solomonpanting

I heard (can't remember where) that folks back east refused to believe tales of the size of virgin redwoods that were being cut by early loggers in the west.

One poor tree was "skinned" in 1854 to make an exhibit that was carted around to prove that the big trees existed -- the bark was removed and reassembled, ending up in London. The stump of the victim is still there in the Calaveras Big Trees State Park.

re: #208 wannabuyaduck

Fascinating article about the coast redwoods that was in the New Yorker a few years back -- [Link: www.wesjones.com...]

The book "The Wild Trees" also covers them, along with some other big ones.

interesting thing about the north coast logging industry. IIRC there was a ship wreck on the coast up there, and the crews/people involved in the salvage noticed the amount of available lumber, waiting to to be harvested...... they came back.

Two truck drivers, Jethro and Budro, were going across country, taking turns driving the rig.
Jethro was driving and all of a sudden he stops.
Budro comes down from the bunk.
"Jethro, what the hell you stop for?" he asks.
Jethro says "Sign up ahead says 'clearance 13 feet"
"So, what's the problem?"
"Budro, we's 15 feet if we's an inch!"
Budro gets out of the truck, looks around, climbs back in, says to Jethro
"Hell, I don't see nobody lookin'!"

re: #197 rightwingva

I still don't know what I am going to do in November. I do think an Obama win will usher in a Socialist America, whether we like it or not.

Are you serious?

re: #207 redc1c4

LOL!

re: #207 redc1c4

Getting a little too warm where you at red.

/been missing you on the overnights.
// well maybe. been getting lazy.

NorCal shipwreck & logging

re: #216 BlueCanuck

Getting a little too warm where you at red.

/been missing you on the overnights.
// well maybe. been getting lazy.

this weekend was busy, i've been reading a bit, and thought i'd try aiming for a reasonable bedtime hour....

/not *real* succesful, but i'm trying.....

(want some fruit cup? %-)

re: #218 redc1c4

hmmmm I don't know if I should.

Memphis meet-up for "RiverLizards" shaping up for around the end of July.

Any more Memphis-area lizards out there, SPEAK UP! (My nic's blue)

Now it's late. Going to bed!

G'nite {{{Beloved Lizards}}}

night {LeePro} Have a good one.

re: #220 LeePro

Memphis meet-up for "RiverLizards" shaping up for around the end of July.

Any more Memphis-area lizards out there, SPEAK UP! (My nic's blue)

Now it's late. Going to bed!

G'nite {Beloved Lizards}

weet greams!

Not to beat up on #197 rightwingva... Well, maybe a little.

To all quasi-conflicted fence sitters, kamikaze republicans, McCain haters, et al: If you haven't figured it out by now that an Obama Presidential win represents at least 4 years of misery for all decision makers and wage payers in the US, you're beyond help. Misery - like shit - rolls down hill to us decision facilitators rather quickly.

I'll hold people like you (who just can't figure it all out and sit home in front of your TV's in a fucking snit in November) responsible if Obama wins.

I respect people who can make a hard decision - not indecisive/spiteful lightweights who are smart enough to know the outcome of inaction, but willing to accept the result like a sheep to slaughter.

Maybe I'm a hopeless pessimist, but whenever I see a headline like this:

Arms dump explosions rock Bulgarian capital Sofia

I wonder how much of that "lost" inventory might turn up in the bloody hands of the ROP...

Have a Great Independence Day, everyone.
And here's hoping for some real Hope....

Whenever I think about it, I find it absolutely astonishing that America has allowed this nincompoop, this cipher Obama to get so near to grasping the White House.

McCain leaves much to be desired. However, Obama is an utterly detestable candidate who would weaken my beloved America in every category significant to me: foreign policy (and Iraq/Afghanistan policy particularly), American sovereignty, energy policy, taxation, health care, Supreme Court selections, and the list goes on.

Obama's pandering to America's complainer-class, his cluelessness about Iraq & Afghanistan, his sympathy for crackpot environmentalism, his scolding attitude toward Americans who are wealthy/successful, his certain elevation of idiots to positions of power and high authority, his lack of discernment in choosing friends and close associates, his total lack of either executive experience or of practical executive aptitude, his apparent inability to think beyond the platitude level, his undue concern for "what the world thinks of us" as a measuring stick for shaping American public policy ... I abhor all of these things in the Democrats' candidate.

If you must, put a clothespin on your nose as you go to the polling booth, but please vote for the candidate who has the best chance of defeating this disastrous Obama -- we all know which candidate that is, also.

Letter from Thomas Jefferson,
"THE SPIRIT OF 1776"
To Thomas Lomax
Monticello, Mar. 12, 1799

DEAR SIR, -- Your welcome favor of last month came to my hands in Philadelphia. So long a time has elapsed since we have been separated by events, that it was like a letter from the dead, and recalled to my memory very dear recollections. My subsequent journey through life has offered nothing which, in comparison with those, is not cheerless & dreary. It is a rich comfort sometimes to look back on them.

I take the liberty of enclosing a letter to mr. Baylor, open, because I solicit your perusal of it. It will, at the same time, furnish the apology for my not answering you from Philadelphia. You ask for any communication I may be able to make, which may administer comfort to you. I can give that which is solid. The spirit of 1776 is not dead. It has only been slumbering. The body of the American people is substantially republican. But their virtuous feelings have been played on by some fact with more fiction; they have been the dupes of artful manuoeuvres, & made for a moment to be willing instruments in forging chains for themselves.

re: #226 Edouard

Edouard, Has it also occurred to you that America was not duped but had no actual part in choosing these candidates. There is one aim and one voice behind this drive and it is relentless, moving aggresively and rapidly. I believe motivated out of fear for loss of control. The main stream media is it's apparatus. The core of it's believes lie outside America and it;s core principles and believes. Sound Familiar?

re: #228 Egfrow

You may have something there, Egfrow...

Seeing rational thought and interactive dialogue moving increasingly to the internet, DinoMedia focuses now its every resource on Getting Hussein Elected!

I can dig it... the concept, not the Obamanoid Election!

Hi-ho-hello, everybody...

re: #20 Buster Bunny

I am so disappointed to find out that Gore didnt invent global warming. I was so sure with the amount of toxic gas he puts out we could have capped him in a couple of years .. not a couple of decades.

- Issac Assimov 1967

Al Gore was in college in 1967, and at that time was an English major.  He changed to politics a couple of years later.  Asimov at this time had just won the 1967 Westinghouse Science Writing Award.  Gore was as close to being a nobody as anything else at this time.  I've Googled the hell out of the quote, and it looks faux to me, and almost certainly spurious, I'd love to hear of your source for it.

A favorite Asimov quote on the topic for me is:

"If a scientific heresy is ignored or denounced by the general public, there is a chance it may be right. If a scientific heresy is emotionally supported by the general public, it is almost certainly wrong."

}:)     [ ... heading off to bed in a moment ... ]

back from fixing up the fruit cup, and now i'm off to bed..... %-)

enjoy!

/white smoke

"Don't braise, me, bro!"
Giordano Bruno

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

The front or back of a tree

A FINN DECIDES TO TRAVEL ACROSS CANADA TO SEE THE PACIFIC OCEAN. WHEN HE GETS TO NANAIMO, HE LIKES THE PLACE SO MUCH THAT HE DECIDES TO STAY.

BUT FIRST HE MUST FIND A JOB!

HE WALKS INTO THE MACMILLIAN-BLOEDEL OFFICE AND FILLS OUT AN APPLICATION AS AN EXPERIENCED LOGGER. IT'S HIS LUCKY DAY! THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE.

BUT FIRST, THE BUSH FOREMAN TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE INTO THE BUSH IN THE COMPANY PICKUP TRUCK TO SEE HOW MUCH HE KNOWS.

THE FOREMAN STOPS THE TRUCK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND POINTS AT A TREE.

'SEE THAT TREE OVER THERE? I WANT YOU TO TELL ME WHAT SPECIES IT IS AND HOW MANY BOARD FEET OF LUMBER IT CONTAINS'
THE FINN PROMPTLY ANSWERS, 'DAT DERE'S A SITKA SPRUCE, EH? AND SHE GOT 383 BOARD FEET OF LUMBER IN 'ER.'

THE FOREMAN IS IMPRESSED. HE PUTS THE TRUCK IN MOTION AND STOPS ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. HE POINTS AT ANOTHER TREE THROUGH THE PASSENGER WINDOW AND ASKS THE SAME QUESTION.

THIS TIME, IT'S A BIGGER TREE OF A DIFFERENT CLASS.

'LORD TUNDERIN'! DAT'S YER DOUGLAS FIR AND SHE GOT 690 BOARD FEET.' SAYS THE FINN.

NOW THE FOREMAN IS REALLY IMPRESSED. THE FINN HAS ANSWERED QUICKLY AND GOT THE ANSWERS RIGHT WITHOUT USING A CALCULATOR! ONE MORE TEST.

THEY DRIVE A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, AND THE FOREMAN STOPS AGAIN. THIS TIME, HE POINTS ACROSS THE ROAD THROUGH HIS DRIVER SIDE WINDOW AND SAYS, 'AND WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE?'

BEFORE THE FOREMAN FINISHES POINTING, THE FINN SAYS, 'A YELLER CEDAR, 242 BOARD FEET AT MOS'.'

THE FOREMAN SPINS THE TRUCK AROUND AND HEADS BACK TO THE OFFICE A LITTLE PISSED OFF BECAUSE HE THINKS THE FINN IS SMARTER THAN HIM.

AS THEY NEAR THE OFFICE, THE FOREMAN STOPS THE TRUCK AND ASKS THE FINN TO STEP OUTSIDE. HE HANDS HIM A PIECE OF CHALK AND TELLS HIM, 'SEE THAT TREE OVER THERE? I WANT YOU TO MARK AN X ON THE FRONT OF THAT TREE!

THE FOREMAN THINKS TO HIMSELF, 'IDIOT! HOW WOULD HE KNOW WHICH IS THE FRONT OF THE TREE?'

WHEN THE FINN REACHES THE TREE, HE GOES AROUND IT IN A CIRCLE WHILE LOOKING AT THE GROUND. HE THEN REACHES UP AND PLACES A WHITE X ON THE TRUNK.

HE WALKS BACK TO THE FOREMAN AND HANDS HIM THE CHALK. 'DAT'S DA FRONT A' DAT TREE FER SURE.' THE FINN STATES.

THE FOREMAN LAUGHS TO HIMSELF AND ASKS SARCASTICALLY, 'HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT'S THE FRONT OF THE TREE?'

THE FINN LOOKS DOWN AT HIS FEET, WHILE RUBBING THE TOE OF HIS LEFT BOOT CLEANING IT IN THE GRAVEL AND REPLIES,

'CUZ SOMEBODY TOOK A SHIT BEHIND IT, EH?'

HE GOT THE JOB AND IS NOW THE FOREMAN.

re: #234 littleoldlady

Red fixed the fruit cup before he took off. >__> Not touching it until happy hour.

Morning littleoldlady. How goes the tasks today?

laZardo! :-)

_{^{Me neither! ;-)}}

Young Chuck, moved to Texas and bought a Donkey from a farmer for $100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the Donkey the next day.

The next day he drove up and said, 'Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the donkey died.'

Chuck replied, 'Well, then just give me my money back.'

The farmer said, 'Can't do that. I went and spent it already.'

Chuck said, 'Ok, then, just bring me the dead donkey.'

The farmer asked, 'What ya gonna do with him?

Chuck said, 'I'm going to raffle him off.'

The farmer said, You can't raffle off a dead donkey!'

Chuck said, 'Sure I can Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he's dead.'

A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, 'What happened with that dead donkey?'

Chuck said, 'I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $898.00.'

The farmer said, 'Didn't anyone complain?'

Chuck said, 'Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back.'

Chuck now works for the government.

re: #236 laZardo

Well I can always use a happy hour, so I hereby declare this mine. ;)

/hic.

BlueCanuck! :-)

This too shall pass... :-/

How's by you?

An elderly couple, Margaret and Bert, moved to Texas

Bert always wanted a pair of authentic cowboy boots, so, seeing some on
sale, he bought them and wore them home.

Walking proudly, he sauntered into the kitchen and said to his wife,
"Notice anything different about me?"

Margaret looked him over. "Nope."

Frustrated, Bert stormed off into the bathroom, undressed and walked
back into the kitchen completely naked except for the boots.

Again he asked Margaret, a little louder this time, "Notice anything
different NOW?"

Margaret looked up and exclaimed, "Bert, what's different? It's hanging
down today, it was hanging down yesterday, it'll be hanging down again
tomorrow!"

Furious, Bert yelled, "AND DO YOU KNOW WHY IT'S HANGING DOWN,
MARGARET?"

"Nope", she replied.

"IT'S HANGING DOWN, BECAUSE IT'S LOOKING AT MY NEW BOOTS!"

Without changing her expression, Margaret replied, "Shoulda bought a
hat, Bert. Shoulda bought a hat."

re: #241 littleoldlady

Almost the weekend. Hope to get some time with the GF.

re: #242 JimmyTheClaw

Made me lawl despite the fact that hump day was yesterday. XD

Doubt is the father of invention.

— Galileo Galilei

"The most important invention of the 19th century was made by a man called Joseph Fry in 1847 and it was a bar of chocolate".

Wonder what he saw in his cocoa to make him doubt it.

i read fast so i'll be re-reading the last patriot it is equally as good as the davinci code i just love books with historic backgrounds as a by product it will make the religion of perpetual outrage give birth to a canary BUT unfortunately i dont see a movie being made from the book because it would be ummmmm how do you say its politically incorect

re: #231 Kulhwch

As an addendum as I head to bed, I also can't find any real source for any of these quotes either:

Cheese is the base of all good pizzas
- Papa Giuseppe 1962

Misery was a Democrat. Bill was a Liar.
Hilary Clinton 2008

Yeah, yeah, I'm nitpicky ...

}:)     ['night all ... ]

re: #244 laZardo

Made me lawl despite the fact that hump day was yesterday. XD

uhhh the wife told me i can buy the hat but not the boots

re: #246 JimmyTheClaw

i read fast so i'll be re-reading the last patriot it is equally as good as the davinci code

Yikes, the Da Vinci Code was good historically in the sense that farts are good physically. That's all very well, but it's still stinky. ;)

I did buy Brad Thor's book at 3 AM Tuesday (when Kindle makes new books available). I was thinking of writing a blogpost review when I finished it, with the sincere prayer that Thor doesn't lose his life over having written such a book...

So I'm browsing the political forums on my art site and apparently black people now have their own national anthem.

/what was that about unity again?

Lazardo, stop browsing those art sites, and start browsing LGF more! ;)

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

(Don't worry. How many times have I posted a link here, only to find out Charles already had)

Hi Everyone!

What a sad day for Denver.

/no longer a place I'm proud to call home.

re: #251 vbspurs

...oh.

Maybe it's time for us Asians to have our own national anthem. We could model it after the Japanese anthem (shortest in the world) and spend less time standing and singing and more time playing ball.

re: #253 laZardo

Maybe it's time for us Asians to have our own national anthem. We could model it after the Japanese anthem (shortest in the world) and spend less time standing and singing and more time playing ball.

May I quote the John Adams HBO series, which I FINALLY watched this week (just finished it, a few hours ago, in fact) and say:

JOIN OR DIE!

At least, don't be the second coming of William Hung. ;)

re: #254 vbspurs

William Hung is soooooooooo~ 2006. We've already moved on to someone more...local.

re: #27 Dar ul Harb

E pur si muove. [Nevertheless, it moves.]
--Galileo Galilei, attributed, upon being forced by the Inquisition in 1663 to recant his heretical view that the Earth orbited the sun, an idea advanced earlier by Polish astronomer Mikołaj Kopernik ("Copernicus").

Greek theologians didn't seem to have any trouble discussing the concept 1100 years earlier...
But they didn't have the Dark Ages...
Or the Inquisition...

re: #15 NY Nana

john bolton as v.POTUS 2 JOHNS ARE BETTER THAN ONE

Good Morning Lizards. Let's clear our throats and sing the National Anthem or the Black National Anthem. I mean, you know, artistic expression

If Necessity is the mother, and Doubt the father, how could Invention have been conceived? Doubt so rarely rises to the occasion.

Remember the British hairdresser sued by a prospective Muslim employee who refused to show her own hair? The Muslim was awarded 4k pounds. "Yes," you say, "the UK is circling the drain." Ah, but there's more to the story, as EU Referendum points out pretty nicely.

re: #250 laZardo

So I'm browsing the political forums on my art site and apparently black people now have their own national anthem.

/what was that about unity again?