I love CK

Aye, methinks B-Ho's handlers are a bit crafty now.

And remember, if you don't vote for Obama then you're a RACIST!

The MSM won't notice; they'll just say that his positions have evolved. [Ducks, runs for cover.]

I like the "seasonal principles" line, versus the "seasoned principles"...great play there!

And it fits B-HO to a Tee.

It would seem that both sides are beginnning to call out Obie on his switchback-filled road to the White House, like the expose on his community organizing debacle in Chicago ( Boston globe?) but the MSM often puts a kinder spin on it. What was the term... reconsideration.? upon further reflection?

Whatever it is , I'm sure it's nuanced ...never outright flip-flopping.

this is the FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE that he has expressed any belief in principles that matter to regular decent americans.

obviously he is a liar and just trying to get elected.

re: #4 joncelli

Well they weren't intelligently designed, that's for sure.

The Party of Jackasses has "nuanced views" and can "modify their outlook" on things.

Conservatives don't have that luxury.

Two weeks ago, I predicted that by Election Day Obama will have erased all meaningful differences with McCain on withdrawal from Iraq. I underestimated Obama's cynicism.

That is devastating!

Of course, it's the absolute truth, too!

Waffles...waffles anyone?

re: #9 6pat6

wah
i said "nuanced" first.

maybe everybody should throw "nuanced" under the bus.

re: #9 6pat6

In other words, Donks (and liberals in general) see the world as they wish it to be. Conservatives see the world for what it is.

Gotta love the Hammer.
Hey, Barry, you can fool some of the people, but you're not fooling us.

re: #9 6pat6

The Party of Jackasses has "nuanced views" and can "modify their outlook" on things.

Conservatives don't have that luxury.

We just look at reality as it is.

re: #12 paint-right

Does that mean John Kerry too?

re: #16 Macker

you bet!

Doesn't this mean, if I understand his words correctly, that his current 'patriotism' is a substitute for 'true patriotism'?

re: #2 Roentgen Really?
I mean, it should not come as any sort of surprise that Obama, probably having won the Dem Nomination by courting the most activist/far left wing Democrats, is now trying to reach out to the center of the electorate.
But he sure isn't doing it very well. He's simultaneously pissed off a LOT of his early supporters (see, e.g., Kos himself) but revealed to the very center that he's trying to appeal to, that he is another John Kerry - a man who flip-flops when the political heat is turned up.
A man with no principles at all.
And he wants to be the President of the United States of America and the Leader of the Free World.
Unfrickingbelievable.

Obama is changing his Che t-shirt for a Chevy t-shirt.

Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit provides a nuanced translation of "a man of seasonal principles."

Ain't it the truth?

re: #18 David IV of Georgia

Doesn't this mean, if I understand his words correctly, that his current 'patriotism' is a substitute for 'true patriotism'?

No. This is really-real patriotism.

re: #18 David IV of Georgia

Yes.

re: #16 Macker

Does that mean John Kerry too?

along with his 'medals" ( or whoever's they are )

The scary thing is that it is working. People take him at his words and really believe he's a centrist who can bring Reagan Democrats back into the fold. That's the Obama campaign's pitch and if the media doesn't expose who Obama really is - and they won't - it will take hold and decide the election.

Why am I not surprised? This is the man that is supposed to be different from the pack and bring "Change and hope!". Honestly. What a sham.

We go through this nonsense every 4 years. Half a decade goes by and another one comes up and promises that the flowers will bloom and the world will be once again happy. I suppose that's why I look at McCain as quite credible, he gives the good AND the bad.

re: #23 debutaunt

No. This is really-real patriotism.

Is that double-plus good?

re: #23 debutaunt

No. This is really-real patriotism.

I'm disgusted but I'm not really going to puke.

re: #28 David IV of Georgia

Is that double-plus good?

You bellyfeel Obamasoc.

re: #19 ploome hineni

We can keep hammering away with the truth, but we can't be certain we're being heard.

The last lines are pretty clear on what happens if Obama wins:

Of course, once he gets there he will have to figure out what he really believes. The conventional liberal/populist stuff he campaigned on during the primaries? Or the reversals he is so artfully offering up now?

I have no idea. Do you? Does he?

He's - gasp! - positioning himself to the right of the NYT too. Check out their boo-hoo of the day.

He's a flippin' to keep from a floppin'.

re: #4 joncelli

There's a big difference between noticing something and reporting it :) . Our media notices just about everything that happens in this country, it just chooses what it wants to report on.

Blogs and the internet are making this deception more difficult to prolong.

re: #26 Peter Verkooijen
No, Peter, I have to disagree with you somewhat. He MAY be fooling some in the Center, but he's lost far more among his supporters on the Far Left. And once his total lack of principle is made clear BY THE FAR LEFT, the Center (and even the MSM) will get it.

re: #27 boofar

Why am I not surprised? This is the man that is supposed to be different from the pack and bring "Change and hope!". Honestly. What a sham.

We go through this nonsense every 4 years. Half a decade goes by and another one comes up and promises that the flowers will bloom and the world will be once again happy. I suppose that's why I look at McCain as quite credible, he gives the good AND the bad.

I agree about McCain. I may disagree with him politically in many ways, but he doesn't pretend to be what he isn't.

I'd rather vote for an honest man whom I disagree with than a silver tongued liar who says nothing and believes in nothing.

Dear KozKiddies and Huffpopo -

Obama is cheating on you, again, slipping us the sliver tongue. It means he will continue to cheat on you all after the election as well.

He's a two-faced, lying, Fast Eddie, pull-one-over-on-ya kind of guy.

Don't you Democrat women have enough toxic men in your lives?

I bet you do.

re: #35 paradox42

I'll pick a bone... it's not that I view McCain as someone that is 100% honest (really, it's in our human nature to lie) but as more credible since he gives you something other than something which is laced with sugar and spice and everything nice.

re: #33 boofar

There's a big difference between noticing something and reporting it :) . Our media notices just about everything that happens in this country, it just chooses what it wants to report on.

Blogs and the internet are making this deception more difficult to prolong.

Whole different ballgame - and the MSM are just confused.

Of course, once he gets there he will have to figure out what he really believes. The conventional liberal/populist stuff he campaigned on during the primaries? Or the reversals he is so artfully offering up now?

I have no idea. Do you? Does he?

Well, considering his past associations, positions, votes, beliefs, and statements prior to the primaries, it's pretty obvious to me that Radical Leftist Obama is the real one.

Aren't we lucky?

re: #36 DistantThunder

Dear KozKiddies and Huffpopo -

Obama is cheating on you, again, slipping us the sliver tongue. It means he will continue to cheat on you all after the election as well.

He's a two-faced, lying, Fast Eddie, pull-one-over-on-ya kind of guy.

Don't you Democrat women have enough toxic men in your lives?

I bet you do.

Ya, he is. The scary thing? Few of them have the introspection to look at these people and question whether this whole thing might be one giant charade.

A little OT here.

On a couple of nonpolitical Usenet groups and other forums I visit, recently a couple of people have commented that the OT topics there were mostly started by conservatives - and it seems to be true. One fan group that was totally destroyed a few years ago now by leftoids, is almost back to being on-topic again, the volume of leftoid postings is down by, oh, 2/3 perhaps.

Anybody else notice this as a trend around the net?

Have all the moonbats gone off to myobama and kos and DU, to enjoy their own private echo chambers and leave normal people alone?

re: #30 Kosh's Shadow

You bellyfeel Obamasoc.

Obama is make me feel plusungood.

re: #32 Drained Brain
Whoa! If you profess to be a "liberal" you've really got to WORK AT IT to get the NYTimes pissed off at you!
And while I've been convinced for quite some time now that Barack Hussein Obama has no principles at all that aren't dictated by his internal polling, I am now, for the first time, becoming convinced that his campaign advisors are major league fuck ups.

re: #38 DistantThunder

Whole different ballgame - and the MSM are just confused.

You're being too kind :) . If they were *only* confused, I might be forgiving when they screw up. Even if they are completely and utterly incompetent, but their intentions are good.

He treated the far left like a guy might treat an ugly woman at Last Call

He took her home since there was nobody else around, and he was drunk. They got it on since a guy has needs after all..
then he booted her out the next morning without even so much as a cup of coffee.
then he gave her a fake phone number and said " call me"

re: #39 dicentra

Well, considering his past associations, positions, votes, beliefs, and statements prior to the primaries, it's pretty obvious to me that Radical Leftist Obama is the real one.

Aren't we lucky?

You know it's the real guy because he was genuinely surprised when his views caused outrage among middle America. "clinging to guns and religion."

re: #43 realwest

Whoa! If you profess to be a "liberal" you've really got to WORK AT IT to get the NYTimes pissed off at you!
And while I've been convinced for quite some time now that Barack Hussein Obama has no principles at all that aren't dictated by his internal polling, I am now, for the first time, becoming convinced that his campaign advisors are major league fuck ups.

*shrug* If you want some major league incompetents, that would be Hillary's campaign.

re: #31 Dianna

We can keep hammering away with the truth, but we can't be certain we're being heard.

The last lines are pretty clear on what happens if Obama wins:

Change!
maybe he'll change his own mind!
Hope!

re: #46 DistantThunder

You know it's the real guy because he was genuinely surprised when his views caused outrage among middle America. "clinging to guns and religion."

Foot in mouth disease can be quite shocking at times ^_^ .

re: #41 itellu3times

A little OT here.

On a couple of nonpolitical Usenet groups and other forums I visit, recently a couple of people have commented that the OT topics there were mostly started by conservatives - and it seems to be true. One fan group that was totally destroyed a few years ago now by leftoids, is almost back to being on-topic again, the volume of leftoid postings is down by, oh, 2/3 perhaps.

Anybody else notice this as a trend around the net?

Have all the moonbats gone off to myobama and kos and DU, to enjoy their own private echo chambers and leave normal people alone?

I don't think they can handle the cognitive dissonance when conservatives use facts. It makes their heads explode.

re: #48 paint-right

Change!
maybe he'll change his own mind!
Hope!

Oh man, that was pretty good :D .

re: #47 boofar

*shrug* If you want some major league incompetents, that would be Hillary's campaign.

Obama has taken on some of HIllary's people...is it at her insistance so they will have jobs...or Bills? How can he say NO?

I'm looking at what McCain said about building more nukes and I like it. The last thing that he would need to do is get Sarah Palin as VP and win this thing and this will make my next 4 years.

re: #52 ploome hineni

He's a narcissist, too.

Oh, I feel for their daughters.

re: #48 paint-right

That would assume he has a mind to change.

re: #53 DistantThunder

Obama has taken on some of HIllary's people...is it at her insistance so they will have jobs...or Bills? How can he say NO?

Or it could be a snide attempt at offloading the people that screwed her over in order to sink the Obama "Change, hope!" ship :) .

re: #55 MandyManners

He's a narcissist, too.

Oh, I feel for their daughters.

Maybe they'll turn out like Chelsea working for a hedge fund. So much for public service.

I thought I had thoroughly chronicled Obama’s brazen reversals of position and abandonment of principles

principles?

por que?

Faster than a massive galactic ripple. Heh.

On a totally different note, this site is badass after Charles combined PHP and AJAX. It looks like something that Amazon or Ebay would make, very professional and cool.

re: #52 ploome hineni

One minor point: He has some conscience - he stammers madly when he lies.

I agree with the rest of what you say.

re: #42 David IV of Georgia

doubleplusungood.

obama is a man who stands for nothing and thus will fall for anything, as the saying goes. He is the epitome of disingenuousness.

Sen. Obama is of the belief that all of his comments are subject to "Extension and Revision" as they are on the floor of Congress. Unfortunately, the Executive Branch doesn't work that way.

-S-

49 state landslide for McCain. I'm just worried that obama will make enough gaffs before the convention that the supers will change their minds.

re: #20 realwest

Really?
I mean, it should not come as any sort of surprise that Obama, probably having won the Dem Nomination by courting the most activist/far left wing Democrats, is now trying to reach out to the center of the electorate.
But he sure isn't doing it very well. He's simultaneously pissed off a LOT of his early supporters (see, e.g., Kos himself) but revealed to the very center that he's trying to appeal to, that he is another John Kerry - a man who flip-flops when the political heat is turned up.
A man with no principles at all.
And he wants to be the President of the United States of America and the Leader of the Free World.
Unfrickingbelievable.

I fear their plan could work. The sum of: Backwards-looking people that are so mad at Bush they will vote for the person that least resembles him; the leftards that will vote for Obama because they hope he will preside as if he were Rev. Wright, no matter what he says now; and knee-jerk middle class democrats like unionists that may now hear enough centrist rhetoric from Obama to allow themselves to pull the lever for him--might be enough to win.

Reposting why BHO will not be the President of the United States of America.

I'm sure he will be backing off a lot of these ideas as well.

re: #47 boofar I disagee.
I think Hillary misjudged her position in the Democratic party and expected a coronation at the convention, so she started out in the primaries appearing more centrist than Obama, because she knows that to actually win the election, you can't just appeal to the extreme elements of the Democratic Party, no matter how many of them there are. In short, I think she ambushed herself!
Obama's major problem now is that the extreme elements of the Democratic Party are not only not still saying "yea, Obama" but are actually saying "Boo Obama" - and that's because Obama and his campaign couldn't figure out a way to get to the center (and, btw, they ain't there yet) without pissing off the very folks who made it likely that he'll be nominated!

re: #64 Sharmuta

obama is a man who stands for nothing and thus will fall for anything, as the saying goes. He is the epitome of disingenuousness.

Yes. He comes in as a no-body and just twiddles his thumbs and sees in which direction the wind blows. He's a good public speaker and uses this to his advantage to say whatever he wants and however he wants it.

I set someone has to attach the flag pin on Obama because it would burn his fingers if he touched it.

re: #66 DistantThunder

What state would he win addition to DC? Illinois? Then hopefully afterward, the Illinois voters will vote his ass out.

Hello again U.S. Americans & such.
Obamas principals are impossible to underestimate.
At the end of the day though, he is some kind of New Age far left egomaniac.

Breakfast guests are here - I'm out.

Have a glorious 4th!

What was that moment that was recorded and played over andover again where he stumbled and fubbed and said he was sleep deprived etc etc. Screwed up statistics or couldn't remember them....

anyway he should be drawn out into more of those potential moments i.e.debates, where he has no teleprompter and no sound bite

McCain mispeaks but Obama really trips on his own tongue at times.

Also heard him or a spokesperson declaring that he will start getting the troops out on day one of his administration. He dares not go back on that.

/ now would be a good time to get bin Ladin out of the fridge.

re: #58 DistantThunder

Maybe they'll turn out like Chelsea working for a hedge fund. So much for public service.

Well, she is an adult responsible for her own choices.

I wonder how BHO and WAB fight.

re: #61 boofar

On a totally different note, this site is badass after Charles combined PHP and AJAX. It looks like something that Amazon or Ebay would make, very professional and cool.

I'm not sure all of it comes through on IE.

re: #69 realwest

I disagee.
I think Hillary misjudged her position in the Democratic party and expected a coronation at the convention, so she started out in the primaries appearing more centrist than Obama, because she knows that to actually win the election, you can't just appeal to the extreme elements of the Democratic Party, no matter how many of them there are. In short, I think she ambushed herself!
Obama's major problem now is that the extreme elements of the Democratic Party are not only not still saying "yea, Obama" but are actually saying "Boo Obama" - and that's because Obama and his campaign couldn't figure out a way to get to the center (and, btw, they ain't there yet) without pissing off the very folks who made it likely that he'll be nominated!

I don't see it that way.

Hillary's people made some catastrophic screw ups. They didn't understand how the rules worked and where this would get them. They didn't plan ahead and kinda expected to just waltz in and presto, get the nomination.

re: #76 ploome hineni

If that's his idea of being chained, then chain me to the wall and throw away the key.

re: #78 Roentgen

I'm not sure all of it comes through on IE.

I use FF 3.0 :) .

re: #62 Dianna

One minor point: He has some conscience - he stammers madly when he lies.

I agree with the rest of what you say.

I don't think the stammering has much to do with a conscience. I think it's because he knows he's a liar but has a hard to covering it up, and he wants to cover it up because he knows his beliefs are contrary to American principles.

Bush salutes new Americans at July 4 ceremony
President heckled during event at Thomas Jefferson's former home

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia - President Bush invoked the memory of Thomas Jefferson Friday in welcoming new U.S. citizens at a naturalization ceremony at Monticello, saying "I'll be proud to call you a fellow American."

On his final U.S. Independence Day as president, Bush told an audience Friday at the home of the Declaration of Independence's author that he was honored to be present for the naturalization. Shouts from protesters were heard during Bush's remarks, and the president responded by saying he agrees that "we believe in free speech in the United States of America."

re: #71 pittboy

I set someone has to attach the flag pin on Obama because it would burn his fingers if he touched it.

It burnsssssesssssss.

Here are some of his supporters who still believe:

Arabs confident Obama will birth 'Palestine'

A senior Palestinian Authority official on Thursday said the regime of US-backed Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas is pulling for Democratic candidate Barack Obama to win the upcoming US presidential election.

PA Planning Minister Samir Abdullah told reporters on a visit to Tokyo that the assumption in Ramallah is that Obama will win the election, and once inaugurated will immediately set in motion the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian Arab state on the biblical Jewish lands of Judea and Samaria.

"[Obama] promised that he will not wait until the end of his term to launch negotiations and he will make it happen from day one," said Abdullah, referring to current US President George W. Bush's unfulfilled promise to oversee the birth of "Palestine" during his time in office.

[Link: www.israeltoday.co.il...]

A new terrorist state you can believe in.

bbl

re: #83 Luigi

Why am I not surprised? Really, acting like idiots in public seems like a sport for members of the left.

re: #69 realwest

Plus I think there is a monotonous honking quality about her delivery that is offputting no matter what she is saying. The only time she won anything was when she softened...ever so briefly.

I am so tired of being yelled at by people who are speaking into Microphones fer CRYING OUT LOUD!

I thought I had thoroughly chronicled Obama’s brazen reversals of position and abandonment total lack of principles

.

There, CK, fixed it for you!

re: #85 opinionated

Yay, more rockets launched at Israel.

*sigh*

re: #68 jorline

Reposting why BHO will not be the President of the United States of America.

I'm sure he will be backing off a lot of these ideas as well.

WFT? You can no longer post any comments on this youtube link. Do they apply this restriction without bias?

Keep reposting the link!

re: #85 opinionated

Here are some of his supporters who still believe:

Arabs confident Obama will birth 'Palestine'

[Link: www.israeltoday.co.il...]

A new terrorist state you can believe in.

Hamas likes him, too.

BBL for real.

re: #82 MandyManners

I attribute his stammering to the weight of his silver tongue. Must be very tiring to move that thing all day.

Think about what was not long ago unimaginable.

Seven years after the murders of 9/11, Americans are going to vote for a candidate supported by the people barbarians who danced on our graves on that day.

re: #29 The Other Les

I'm disgusted but I'm not really going to puke.

It's a whole new level of phoneyness.

re: #62 Dianna

One minor point: He has some conscience - he stammers madly when he lies.

I agree with the rest of what you say.

Is that a conscience or a "tell"?

Crap...just missed Cool Hand Luke.

Liberal way of communicating; It's not our fault you don't understand our liberal agenda.

Obama's New & Improved logo -- now with more nuance!

Obama '08!

re: #91 Roentgen

WFT? You can no longer post any comments on this youtube link. Do they apply this restriction without bias?

Keep reposting the link!

Scary shit, yes?

To his credit though, Obama will fight alcoholism among the youts.
He said that he would see that all juvenile asthmatics will get breathalysers
He truly is a lightworker!

re: #88 paint-right
Yeah, I'm NOT dissing Obama's ability to rouse the crowd, so to speak, when he's speaking from a prepared text, at least, but more that Hillary started out as far more "centrist" in her positions than did Obama and that's a no-no if you want the Dem Nomination, because all of the real "activists" and "youth votes" in the Party are left-wing loonies.
I don't recall, for example, that Hillary said anything close to what Obama said (in the primaries) about pulling out of Iraq.
Now Obama realizes that he has to move out of that immediate withdrawal position to win the actual election, which, as John Kerry showed us, isn't decided by voters from the extreme left wing of the Dem Party.
Mind you, I'm not now, nor have I ever been, a supporter of Hillary, just pointing out that she presumed she'd be the nominee and started out trying to have a broader appeal than did Obama.
And that Obama is getting dissed by the very folks who helped him get the nomination (probably) is just time to make more popcorn!
Hell, if y'all remember, Charles even had a thread on how Markos Zunigas Kos was tossing Obama under the bus! And if Kos turns on you, ultimately so will the extreme wing of the Dem party and without THEM Obama has no chance of winning the general election!

re: #98 justacanuck

Obama's New & Improved logo -- now with more nuance!

Obama '08!

*snort*

BTW, where're you at in Canada?

Well all y'all it's been interesting as usual, but I gotta go eat lunch now - hope you all enjoy the remainder of Independence Day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Have a GREAT INDEPENDENCE DAY everyone!

re: #102 Miss Trixie

*snort*

BTW, where're you at in Canada?

LOL!

Undercover operative based in a sekrit undisclosed location in conservative dominated territory.

re: #19 ploome hineni

I wonder what will be the tipping point, what dissociation will make the press see the contest as less Wonder Boy vs. Old Man. It can only help to have the press confused.

I wonder if Obama is going to wear his flag pin today.

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I wonder if Obama is going to wear his flag pin today.

I wonder if he understands the significance of today.

re: #101 realwest

Lefty Just Wants Free Stuff.

Alberta, huh? My olde schtomping grounds.

It's unlikely that the protesters who shouted Bush down at the swearing ceremony for new citizens were the new citizens. I think they were just code pink types who saw an opportunity to get near Bush.

They reporters don't explicitly say. That's probably largely out of incompetence and maybe also they probably don't want to ruin a good story.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
[Link: ap.google.com...]

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I wonder if Obama is going to wear his flag pin today.

Would we be gauche to suggest body piercing? He could wear it on a cheek. He has four of them.

re: #111 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It would interfere with Bill Clinton's ass-kissing.

re: #75 paint-right

What was that moment that was recorded and played over andover again where he stumbled and fubbed and said he was sleep deprived etc etc. Screwed up statistics or couldn't remember them....

anyway he should be drawn out into more of those potential moments i.e.debates, where he has no teleprompter and no sound bite

McCain mispeaks but Obama really trips on his own tongue at times.

Also heard him or a spokesperson declaring that he will start getting the troops out on day one of his administration. He dares not go back on that.

/ now would be a good time to get bin Ladin out of the fridge.

He forgot how many states we have. How many times do we all do that.

The cover of this week's "Rolling Stone" is enough to make you puke. It is a massive, air-brushed face shot of the B-Ho, with a too-prominent flag pin. To emphasize their worship of the messiah, the editors stripped all the normal wording from the cover. You can see it on the RS website, but if you real want to hurl your Fourth of July hot dog, you have to see it at your local newsstand. Unfortunately for me, with people in the music business, we have to subscribe to the rag. It sat on the kitchen counter until I put some gloves on and threw it out last night.

re: #82 MandyManners

I don't think the stammering has much to do with a conscience. I think it's because he knows he's a liar but has a hard to covering it up, and he wants to cover it up because he knows his beliefs are contrary to American principles.

Hello America! This is who I'm not!

re: #112 godfrey

It would interfere with Bill Clinton's ass-kissing.

Probably true, but think of Obama's sartorial quandary.
Orifice ... or face?

My "Obama, Flag Pins, and Lies" video seems applicable here. I am getting some true believer comments (mostly from the same guy).

re: #107 Sharmuta

I wonder if he understands the significance of today.

Doubt it. I still think that he prefers the Eid, which is of course prima facia proof of racism, to link Obama in any way with Islam.
Heck it is racist to criticise the man for any reason.

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I wonder if Obama is going to wear his flag pin today.

Sure, just as soon as Dracula crawls out of a box of his native earth and dons a crucifix.

I've been out in the garden on a cloudless day. I never want this weather to end, until, of course, I want it to end. I have all this damned mint. What do I do with mint? And what do I do with carrots that I've never bothered to thin? Should I thin them now? Moreover, my red raspberries are sending up volunteers in every direction. Do any of you need free canes? This patch has already produced canes for every other garden in the neighborhood. Time to go national.

re: #115 debutaunt

Hello America! This is who I'm not!

This is not the who I'm not that I knew.

re: #119 rawmuse

Sure, just as soon as Dracula crawls out of a box of his native earth and dons a crucifix.

*grin* You are on a roll today!

/referring to your great discourse in the last thread

re: #100 opnion

To his credit though, Obama will fight alcoholism among the youts.
He said that he would see that all juvenile asthmatics will get breathalysers
He truly is a lightworker!

HAHAHAAHAHA

re: #114 Roentgen

Roent, RS has been a bend-over, I'll-do-whatever-the-DNC-wants kind of rag for more than a decade. Probably longer. AFAIC, it's birdcage liner. What's its circulation, these days?

re: #120 godfrey

Give Obama a raspberry!

re: #125 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I would give him a swift kick in the ass, if no one was looking.

re: #121 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This is not the who I'm not that I knew.

Excellent! You didn't even stammer a little bit.

re: #126 godfrey

I would give him a swift kick in the ass, if no one was looking.

Done.
You give shoe leather. I'll give spittle.

By the way, I inherited this garden. It is absurdly fecund. I could plant a plastic stick, and it would grow toys.

re: #122 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you, I essentially posted the same thing on SFGATE, and at last look I had 84 down dings.

re: #129 godfrey

By the way, I inherited this garden. It is absurdly fecund. I could plant a plastic stick, and it would grow toys.

Has Obama been giving speeches to it?

re: #128 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Unfortunately, I have to be content at the moment with giving his supporters quizzical looks and discomfiting questions. Such is life.

re: #127 debutaunt

Excellent! You didn't even stammer a little bit.

Re-reading it, it sounds almost like Seuss.

/conceit off

did anyone else hear, or read, this?

Go down and begin reading at the tenth paragraph....

Obama said in January 2007 (the day he announced his candidacy) that he had a plan that would bring home all troops by March 2008....

Huh?

How's that plan goin' chief?

re: #129 godfrey

I would love some mint! How I miss mint grown in home gardens. We would make 'tea' with it.

Are we making fun of Obama today? This is not the LGF that I knew!

:-)

re: #130 rawmuse

Thank you, I essentially posted the same thing on SFGATE, and at last look I had 84 down dings.

LOL!
Badge of honor.

The entire strategy of moving left or right for the primaries, and then moving to the center for the general election is a fraud. The NYT and the rest of the MSM have no leg to stand on when they complain about anybody's flip-flops... they have aided and abetted fraud for decades now.

re: #134 WindHorse

Don't you know that the Obamessiah can travel through time?

re: #129 godfrey

By the way, I inherited this garden. It is absurdly fecund. I could plant a plastic stick, and it would grow toys.

ROFL

re: #139 paradox42

Oh! that's what I smelled..... I just thought it was bullshit....

re: #119 rawmuse

Sure, just as soon as Dracula crawls out of a box of his native earth and dons a crucifix.

You're killing me.

re: #131 debutaunt

Yes, and the speech is to the effect of, "when I'm President, you'll have to give forty percent of those toys to me, so I can work my lightworker magic. Do you see? Can I get an 'Amen'?"

And my stick will say, "F*** off, wanker."

Tigerhawk has a good piece in which he notes that the editors of the New York Times are beginning to notice that they are the rubes that Obama has on a string.

[Link: tigerhawk.blogspot.com...]

re: #124 godfrey

I was going to pull the magazine out of the recycling to check for you, then I remembered: the number they indicate is likely a fabrication, so I won't bother.

re: #141 WindHorse

That is because you lack hope in the Lightworker. Repent and change thy ways lest you be cast underneath the bus. Find nuance and be saved.

/This isn't the sarc I knew.

re: #139 paradox42

Don't you know that the Obamessiah can travel through time?

o
Of course I did. The man actually created nine more states.
Didn't ya think that a celestial being, lightworker would not be so, you know, doofus?

re: #120 godfrey

I've been out in the garden on a cloudless day. I never want this weather to end, until, of course, I want it to end. I have all this damned mint. What do I do with mint? And what do I do with carrots that I've never bothered to thin? Should I thin them now? Moreover, my red raspberries are sending up volunteers in every direction. Do any of you need free canes? This patch has already produced canes for every other garden in the neighborhood. Time to go national.

your garden sounds a lot like mine.
all the volunteer mint and the unthinned carrots and my raspberries have nearly pushed out the strawberries.
i'm such an unorthodox gardener. my motto to the plants is, 'you don't have to bring much to the party to stay in my garden.'
(but i really go after the jihad weeds.)

*Hella busy drive-by post*

Happy Birthday America!

Happy Independence Day, Lizards!

And since this is an Obama thread: Change!

Laters

re: #129 godfrey

By the way, I inherited this garden. It is absurdly fecund. I could plant a plastic stick, and it would grow toys.

ROFL! I like the way you write. :)

re: #144 Luigi

Ha, I saw this this morning. Imagine the scene. NYT editors, in their bespoke tattersall shirts and linen pants, drinking meticulously specified latte's, frowning their contemplative frowns, feeling their ivy-league credentials quail in a fight before their street nerves, asking themselves, with indirect, nuanced questions, whether they are, perhaps, if it's not too unpleasant to ask, though it would be very 'intelligent' to ask, if they are not, in fact, being bent over their editorial desks and asked to bark like nubile seals.

Yes, it is a satisfactory picture.

re: #129 godfrey

By the way, I inherited this garden. It is absurdly fecund. I could plant a plastic stick, and it would grow toys.

You live in Narnia?

ahh... let me... you know.... ahhh... let me be... you know... as clear as....ahhh.... you know.... I can be....

re: #152 Occasional Reader

Toynia.

What's on the grill, OR?

Change!

to the new thread

re: #156 Racer X

It still looks on-topic. Best to wait until comment 100.

re: #155 godfrey

What's on the grill, OR?

On Amtrak, posting with iPhone. Too slow. Bye for now!

re: #136 Iron Fist

Are we making fun of Obama today? This is not the LGF that I knew!

:-)

Right. Everybody under the bus! NOW!

Well well well!

And in today's TIMES, we could read a similar observation (disregard the subtitle - some editor fiddled with the end ...):

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

re: #9 6pat6

The Party of Jackasses has "nuanced views" and can "modify their outlook" on things.

Conservatives don't have that luxury.

Thus the difference betwee Robert Byrd and Jesse Helms!

re: #62 Dianna

One minor point: He has some conscience - he stammers madly when he lies.

I agree with the rest of what you say.

Thats not conscience - thats him being scared of being found out and punished!

I heard Obama on the radio at the beginning of the week claiming his love for America and how we are all going to get with him and change it.

What a disconnect from rational thought.

Love it and change it.

Acutally, that explains a lot of divorces....Love it now and try and change it tomorrow.

/And they said it wouldn't last

re: #163 yesandno

Honey, I love you. Though I wish you would sit up straight, stop watching football, give me more money for shopping, stop being such a disciplinarian, quit the club basketball team, watch "Desperate Housewives" with me, etc., &c.

re: #158 Occasional Reader

Hey! You got one! Yeah, Edge is slow. The platform is cool, though, and they're working on speed.

Another Obama '08 logo do-over/quick hack.

Why yes, I am having a bit of fun with this.

Meanwhile, this is not going away:

Forgery Revealed in Kos Publication of Obama 'Birth Certificate' (updated)

NO bama!

now i get it Obama's idea of CHANGE is that he changes his points from one week to the next.

No mention of July 4 on Obama's website.

Obama is a typical politician, opportunistic and willing to compromise if it gets him where he wants to go.

What he represents in American history is important, the idea that all men can overcome their disadvantages and rise to the highest office in the land.

Unfortunately I am not so sure that he possesses the requisite qualification to command such an important office.

re: #1 paint-right

I love CK

Best columnist in America.

re: #168 neocon hippie

Hillary must have had her flying monkeys getting air-refuelings while looking for BHO's birth certificate. If she's found the smoking gun, I'm betting the proof will be revealed at the convention in Denver.

Krauthamer is brilliant, too bad BHO's opponent isn't as clear.

re: #66 DistantThunder

I pray you are right...

But the PoJ will still demand a recount and say the SCOTUS skewed the results - 119,000,264 to 12,385,677 in favor of John McCain.

Can't forget the 10,569 votes for Nader and the 34 votes for...who was that annoying little Texas Representative again?

I keep musing on what would happen today if they had to run the Donk primaries all over again. The Donks in the early primaries would realize that they had voted for a man with no ethics and a racist outlook on life. I am no fan of Hellory (indeed I regard her as having some evidence of being a psychopath) but somehow, I suspect that she would be the nominee. While it is always reasonable to change one's outlook and proposals on how to deal with things when the facts change (such as 9/11), this guy just does change on the fly. His word is the expedient of the 1/2 picosecond.

re: #168 neocon hippie

Meanwhile, this is not going away:

Forgery Revealed in Kos Publication of Obama 'Birth Certificate' (updated)

For the edification of the left, this situation is similar to the Swiftboat condition; just as Kerry did not provide the documents to refute the charges, Obama is not providing the document (his birth certificate) to refute the doubt about his citizenship. So, why is he not countering the charges/doubt/questions? It is an easy matter to resolve. Are the complications to his campaign that dire? Inquiring minds what to know.

re: #177 Shr_Nfr

While it is always reasonable to change one's outlook and proposals on how to deal with things when the facts change (such as 9/11)

By that you mean the way many changed after 9/11 from being unwilling to use force against those that threaten us to accepting that, at least in a limited way, sometimes force is necessary? Am i taking the right thing from that remark?

I guess you are gone. I think I read you right, though.

And, that reminds me of something Glenn Beck said the other day about that "time when we all united". That was a fleeting time wasn't it. In the immediate aftermath of 9/11 we all joined together, and yet many of us suspected that the left would abandon the cause at the first opportunity. And then we invaded Iraq. And, in spite of bipartisan domestic legislative support and near unanimous world agreement that Saddam must be overthrown, the left went looking for every excuse to break away from the pack and found it when the WMD that everyone was expecting to be there could not be found. But, no WMD is not their real complaint, that is just their rationale, their real complaint is with their being united with the right.

B. Hussein Obama is evil and must be defeated in the election!

re: #75 paint-right

The comment about that he had been to all but one of the 57 States...

There ARE 57...islamic...states, BTW.

re: #170 yochanan

now i get it Obama's idea of CHANGE is that he changes his points from one week to the next.

At least until he finds the "Change We Can Believe In".

re: #180 Pshawalaw

::snip::
But, no WMD is not their real complaint, that is just their rationale, their real complaint is with their being united with the right.

To them agreeing with anything the right of Joe Lieberman (or Joe) is like sleeping with a pig...it felt good at the time but now they shudder in revulsion at actually finding common cause against a threat to us all. Past the heat of the moment they'd rather die then admit agreeance with anything other than their particular party line.

re: #161 yesandno

At least Helms was never a KKK Grand Klaxon, or whatever they call the head bigot in that organization, like Byrd was.

For a non-Muslim he's great at taqiyya

Via Iowahawk: iowahawk.typepad.com...] target="_blank">

Obama clarifies his clarifications.

Re #187 Let's try again.

This is what we get for drifting into the 'form over substance' frame of mind in this country.
Yes, yes, he's a pretty face with a glib turn of phrase.
But that's not enough.
These are perilous times.
We need a serious leader.
Not a frickin' prom queen.

Hussein O is so much in love with Taqqiyah.

Charles Krauthammer is one of the best in the business. Love his stuff.

Wherever 'Obooma' goes, the truth commits suicide.

Boy it sure is a good thing that the libtards and Kos Kiddies, have a fall back guy in John McCain to vote for, when Obama dis's and pisses them off, before throwing them under his big bus too.

Remember you Kos lurkers, John McCain only throws Christians and Conservatives under his bus. If you ask real nice, I'll bet he'll even let you sit up front in the grown up seats and maybe even sit in his lap, and steer the bus. Wouldn't that be fun, Kidz?

re: #192 yenta-fada

Wherever 'Obooma' goes, the truth commits suicide.

Then John McCain shows up to stab it in the back, you know, just to make sure. Just like he did to all the POW/ MIA's being held as captive bargaining chips by the NVC, back in 1992.

I have to repost this because it satirically shows Obama's flip-flops.

[Obama guest blogs at Iowahawk]

My Fellow Americans:

Let me be crystal clear: if elected president, my first act will be to call for the immediate withdrawal of all American troops from Iraq. I have always been consistent and forthright in this position, and I want to reassure my supporters that my recent statement backtracking from it was just some bullsh*t my staff came up with to tack to the center for the general election… just look at all of the comsymps and pinkos I've thrown under the bus in the last 6 weeks - Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Samantha Power, Jim Johnson, the list goes on. And you know what? I enjoyed it.

Or will I? As is obvious to all but the most deluded HuffPo retard, the surge in Iraq has produced dramatic improvements in security throughout Iraq, and the roots of a stable pro-American democracy. We have the terrorists on the run, and it would obviously be crazy for us to pull our troops from the region just as we are on the verge of victory.

…everything I said in the previous paragraph was designed to placate the naive hipster moonbats I brilliantly exploited to destroy the Clintons. (You're welcome.) Now that the nomination is in the bag, I am finally free to stake out my genuine pro-victory Iraq position, and have a good laugh while the dKos morons screech like a bunch of apoplectic howler monkeys…

See what I mean? That previous paragraph should be a signal to all of you in the progressive community just how committed I am to an immediate troop withdrawal.

A Message to American Voters By Senator Barack Obama D-IL

What is worrisome is that the Lefties will vote for him anyway because they are filled with Bush hatred.re: #6 paint-right

It would seem that both sides are beginnning to call out Obie on his switchback-filled road to the White House, like the expose on his community organizing debacle in Chicago ( Boston globe?) but the MSM often puts a kinder spin on it. What was the term... reconsideration.? upon further reflection?

Whatever it is , I'm sure it's nuanced ...never outright flip-flopping.

re: #42 David IV of Georgia

Obama is make me feel plusungood.

Make that doubleplusungood and I'll have one, too, Barkeep.

If Obama has lost Kos and the NYT, what's left? Switching to the GOP?

re: #58 DistantThunder

Maybe they'll turn out like Chelsea working for a hedge fund. So much for public service.

Chelsea actually has a lot going for her. She's young, attractive, has a very good job, and all of her family's skeletons are out in the open.

What's not to like?

/

re: #72 Macker

What state would he win addition to DC? Illinois? Then hopefully afterward, the Illinois voters will vote his ass out.

He might win Vermont. I don't think he'd follow McGovern and win MA, because his surrogate is governor there and they're sick of him.

re: #28 David IV of Georgia

Is that double-plus good?

No, I think it's more like 'double-secret probation' ...

re: #185 6pat6

At least Helms was never a KKK Grand Klaxon, or whatever they call the head bigot in that organization, like Byrd was.

Byrd was a Kleagle He wasn't the head bigot, but he helped bring new bigots into the fold.

AFAIK the only thing Helms wanted to give the Klan was a dose from old Dr. Twelve-Gauge.

Barry's slogan is: " Change we can believe in."

I don't believe I've ever seen a guy change his positions as much as he does: Obama- The Transformer Candidate.

Turning from a marxist-leftist pacifist into a center right neo-warmonger in one magical pirouette.

Everyone knows he's lying (ala B.J. Clinton) but it's so transparent and so fascinating to watch, they'll vote just for the entertainment value of his fancyfooted machiavellian tapdancing.

So what's new here? They all go to the middle at some point: Right or left. McCain doesn't have to so much 'cause he's already there.

It's all so transparent. the Left is well aware of what he is doing. Winning an election. The end justifies the means and all that.

Problem is, their new age of hope and change is starting out just like any other campaign. I hope they haven't set there sights too high. Dudes a player.