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Temporary Lifting of AP Boycott

Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:53:56 pm PDT

I know I said I was boycotting the Associated Press, but their take on Independence Day has to be seen to be believed.

Americans’ unhappy birthday: ‘Too much wrong right now’.

The nation’s psyche is battered and bruised, the sense of pessimism palpable. Young or old, Republican or Democrat, economically stable or struggling, Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

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1 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:55:31pm

Blooming idiots.

2 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:55:42pm

I think I am going to puke.

3 Macker  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:56:39pm

OK, how much they gonna charge you?

4 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:57:02pm

The warm glow of patriotism.

5 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:57:21pm

theirs is a bleak little wrld.

6 Number 2  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:57:37pm

You ever notice that the more some people complain about the state of the country (or anything for that matter), the less likely they are to offer a single usable idea about how to make things better?

7 skree  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:57:54pm

Liberals are always so unhappy. They think they'll 'change' society and THEN they'll be happy. They don't realize their unhappiness doesn't come from society towards them but projected from them onto society.
What a miserable way to go through life.

8 illegal upchuck  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:58:10pm

Nice buzzkill. AP.

9 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:59:06pm

who's going to ride to the rescue?

gag me. Can we disband the AP yet? Oh and Boondock St. Bender, I luuurve your icon. (spike is so the man!)

10 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:59:20pm

Jimmy Carter, is that you?

11 xenon23  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:59:33pm

Just more hate america BS!

We are still the go to nation. Everyone want us to help them and everyone wants to come here but they all hate us. I wonder how long till china is the big dog and everyone starts to hate them?

12 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 6:59:37pm

Driving through my neighborhood last night seeing all these American flags displayed in front of people's houses, shooting off fireworks to celebrate this wonderful nations birthday and these c**ksuckers write a piece of s**t like that.
F**k them!

13 itellu3times  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:00:24pm

I took seven (7) AP writers to produce this article!

14 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:00:38pm

The big local story is connection of the North span of the new 35W bridge.

15 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:00:52pm

re: #7 skree

Liberals are always so unhappy. They think they'll 'change' society and THEN they'll be happy. They don't realize their unhappiness doesn't come from society towards them but projected from them onto society.
What a miserable way to go through life.

It's like the people who think that if they buy the right thing or take the right pill, they'll be happy.

16 itellu3times  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:00:53pm

PIMF:
IT took seven ...

17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:01:08pm
And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

I dont worry about anyone riding to the rescue. I worry about who says they want to rescue me for my own good.

18 kyleb  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:01:25pm

Clearly we're in need of a savior. Someone who can bring...CHANGE. I wonder who that might possibly be. It's a head scratcher for sure.

19 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:01:36pm

re: #13 itellu3times

I took seven (7) AP writers liars to produce this article piece of shit!

20 Morganfrost  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:02:00pm

God, they make me ill.

21 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:02:02pm

re: #10 jaunte

Jimmy Carter, is that you?

For some reason I thought of 1979 when I read the AP quote.

22 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:02:04pm
And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

Oh, yes. We are so helpless, we need the stage set for a Dear Leader to save us from ourselves!

Puke.

Here's the thing, ap- this nation was built by rugged individualists, and that's in our collective American DNA. If ANYONE is going to "save us" it's going to be us. Take your projectionist, obama stage setting and shove it.

23 mossley  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:02:04pm

Excuse me, but no one asked my opinion. How can the AP report on what we think when they don't ask us? For that matter, they've never asked me once for my opinion in any of their "what Americans think" pieces.

h, right. It's the AP. What's the point of facts when they have an agenda to push.

24 Prikolno  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:02:09pm

She needs a "good" vacation, somewhere in in North Waziristan, or better Saudi Arabia.

25 akak  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:02:57pm
CALGARY - Canada's newest and largest mosque opened Saturday in Calgary, praised by Prime Minister Stephen Harper as an "architectural treasure."

Harper also strongly defended the Ahmadiyya community - an offshoot Muslim sect persecuted in some countries - for building a mosque that demonstrates "the true and benevolent face of Islam."

[Link: cnews.canoe.ca...]

26 PrairieWind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:03:02pm

"And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue."

I just bet they have someone in mind ... and maybe even a "what".

I have only one question, though. Where do they take these polls?
Downtown Berkeley?

OK, two questions. People actually pay crAP for this so-called "news"?

You know, we all went into the wrong business. We should be
punching out liberal and pinko "news" -- I bet we all said "naw,
you have to report facts." How were we to know you could just
make it all up? I could do entire crAP "page one" dross in my
sleep.

"Drug Use Blamed on Conservative Politics"
"Suicide Rates Go Up Under Bush"
"Science Reveals Socialism Is Best"

... I could go on but I charge $25 a word.

27 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:03:10pm

Ya know, I was just talking to my shrink about how bruised and battered my psyche was and how pessimistic I was feeling. We decided that more federal spending on stupid feel-good government programs and pulling out of Iraq was the answer to all my problems!

do I need a sarc tag?

28 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:03:18pm

re: #21 David IV of Georgia

Same here. Malaise! Everybody run, it's a rabbit!

29 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:03:54pm

re: #25 akak

[Link: cnews.canoe.ca...]

This must be the Saturday night puke thread!

30 ted  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:04:09pm

Loser's All........................AP, CNN, NY Times, etc.

31 pegcity  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:04:53pm

the AP speaks for all americans?

32 tradewind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:05:16pm

AP: Absolutely Pusillanimous

33 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:05:31pm

re: #31 pegcity

the AP speaks for all americans?

The AP speaks for all un-americans?
Yes.

34 Plumed Basilisk  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:05:32pm

BAAAAARRRF!

35 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:05:53pm

That soooo describes my Fourth!

I think the AP has been reading my diary.

36 pegcity  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:06:16pm

re: #25 akak

meh i can deal with them, they are hated as much as jews by the rest of the muslim world.

37 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:06:20pm

re: #34 Plumed Basilisk

BAAAAARRRF!

Glad you made it to the puke thread!

38 tradewind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:06:25pm

re: #34 Plumed Basilisk

Allah hooey Ach Barf.

39 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:06:30pm

re: #26 PrairieWind

Would you believe that Dungeons & Dragons led to my conservative views.

40 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:07:25pm

re: #9 baxtrice

Thanks!most folks don't know who he is.

41 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:07:37pm

re: #38 tradewind

Allah hooey Ach Barf.

I don't know why but that made me LOL!

42 hrhamilton  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:08:08pm

This is one American who is completely happy. I do not need anyone to rescue me.

I of course do not speak for all those lame sisters out there who never learned to man up.

43 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:08:09pm

Nice try, AP. This weekend is the first in many months that I have not felt like this guy, and it is due in no small part to the recent holiday.

Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.


Yeah, maybe the ineffectual, impotent crybabies are wondering this, but I know that I am the architect of my own destiny. I wait for no white-knight, politician-messiah to come to my 'rescue'.

44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:09:07pm

re: #39 The Other Les

Would you believe that Dungeons & Dragons led to my conservative views.

How so? Long time gamer here.

45 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:09:31pm

re: #39 The Other Les

Would you believe that Dungeons & Dragons led to my conservative views.

You tried role playing a communist elf who thought government was the answer to the social ills between drows and elves and figured out that bureaucracies are inherently incompetent?

46 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:10:24pm

Could this be the opening plays of the full-court press by the MSM to get the Obamassiah anointed to his "divinely appointed" role?

47 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:10:25pm

re: #45 DeathtotheSwiss

You tried role playing a communist elf who thought government was the answer to the social ills between drows and elves and figured out that bureaucracies are inherently incompetent?

God came to him after a 3 day marathon of D & D.

48 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:10:28pm

re: #40 Boondock St. Bender

Thanks!most folks don't know who he is.

Bah! I heart me some Spike & Bebop--it's my favoritest anime!

49 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:10:44pm

re: #43 Slumbering Behemoth

Hear!Hear!

50 CapeCoddah  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:11:09pm

It must really suck to be a moonbat. Imaging getting up every mornng with that outlook? I'd drive into a bridge abutment in a week!

51 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:11:20pm
Whether things are going well or not, it is part of human nature to be dissatisfied with the present state of things, says Arthur Brooks, professor of business and government policy at Syracuse University and the author of "Gross National Happiness: Why Happiness Matters for America — And How We Can Get More of It."

"Very few Americans wake up in the morning and say, 'This is an unbelievable country. I'm going to go to the supermarket, and there's going to be food. When I go and vote, nobody's going to beat me up,'" he says. "We're horrible at appreciating the status quo. We're really good at appreciating positive changes."

THANK YOU!

Nothing like keeping a little perspective.

52 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:11:54pm

re: #28 jaunte

Same here. Malaise! Everybody run, it's a rabbit!

Brother Maynard, bring out the Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch!

53 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:12:22pm

re: #48 baxtrice

My ex. just got me the entire collection for fathers day.My little guys kept telling her dad wants bebop!

54 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:12:37pm

re: #47 VegasRick

God came to him after a 3 day marathon of D & D.

I'm glad you said that in the non-porn thread.

55 tradewind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:12:52pm

And yet they ignore........
Carry on my wayward son.....

[Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

56 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:12:54pm

re: #50 CapeCoddah

It must really suck to be a moonbat. Imaging getting up every mornng afternoon with that outlook? I'd drive with a flat tire into a bridge abutment in a week!

57 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:12:55pm

"America is sick. There is little hope. Pain awaits all who strive. Woe is me!" -- AP, Reuters, CNN

58 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:13:21pm

re: #52 FurryOldGuyJeans

.. And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." Amen

59 MarineGrunt  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:13:28pm

re: #1 MandyManners

Blooming idiots.


Offspring of a lefty who jack off into a flower pot.

60 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:13:55pm

re: #57 Karridine

"America is sick. There is little hope. Pain awaits all who strive. Woe is me!" -- AP, Reuters, CNN

And that message is NOT ACCIDENTAL.

61 brakes  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:13:57pm

If we only had a democrat president all would be well.
sigh.
/

62 tradewind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:14:11pm

re: #41 VegasRick

Say it three times quickly, adding some lullulululus, and you'll know why....

63 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:14:14pm

re: #57 Karridine

"America is sick. There is little hope. Pain awaits all who strive. Woe is me!" -- AP, Reuters, CNN

Your forgot ABC, CBS, NBC, CBC, CNBC, and MSNBC (did I miss any?). ;)

64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:14:15pm

re: #57 Karridine

"America is sick. There is little hope. Pain awaits all who strive. Woe is me!" -- AP, Reuters, CNN

Needs more bleeding from the eyes and gnashing of teeth.

65 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:14:41pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

O! who can save us?

66 Dolphin  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:14:42pm

re: #57 Karridine

Good evening - morning Karridine!.. Just listen to Obama and he will lead you to the promised land..

/sarc

67 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:14:57pm

They are taking their leftist, victim mentality and projecting it on the entire country. That really pisses me off.

What's worse, is the sneaking suspicion that obama brand prozac is what the ap will think is the only cure.

68 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:15:35pm

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

Could this be the opening plays of the full-court press by the MSM to get the Obamassiah anointed to his "divinely appointed" role?

Yep.

69 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:15:37pm

Damn,so this is how the dark ages start.ap is on their game.

/

70 RTLM  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:15:46pm
Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

Good Lord, just do yourselves in already! What a shitty life to lead as die hard leftist pessimists.

71 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:15:59pm

re: #53 Boondock St. Bender

What is it about ex's and Bebop? I've got a strange story about my ex and my love for Bebop? (plus the various ex's of the bebop characters..)

It's almost creepy.. :)

72 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:16:05pm

re: #58 jaunte

.. And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." Amen

Isn't that from the Book of Armaments? Chapter, Verse? And oops, I am a heretic in that I said it was Grenades, plural. I must do penance. ;)

73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:16:29pm

re: #65 jaunte

O! who can save us?

Here is the secret.

You can.

74 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:17:05pm

re: #63 FurryOldGuyJeans

My bad.

75 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:17:13pm
Americans’ unhappy birthday: ‘Too much wrong right now’.

I woke up happy yesterday. What's wrong with me?

76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:17:34pm

re: #72 FurryOldGuyJeans

Isn't that from the Book of Armaments? Chapter, Verse? And oops, I am a heretic in that I said it was Grenades, plural. I must do penance. ;)

Wicked naughty evil FurryOldGuyJeans. Next thing you know, you're be setting alight the Grail shaped beacon.

77 CapeCoddah  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:17:34pm

re: #56 VegasRick

I stand humbly corrected.

78 tradewind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:17:35pm
"America is sick. There is little hope. Pain awaits all who strive. Woe is me!" -- AP, Reuters, CNN


So the answer is to elect Obama and put the nation into one giant clinical trial?

79 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:18:10pm

re: #75 David IV of Georgia

Redneck!

80 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:18:18pm

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You're right. O isn't the answer.

81 Plumed Basilisk  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:18:26pm

Re-ban the AP, PLEASE!

82 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:18:40pm

re: #74 Karridine

My bad.

There are such pesky little things known as facts, you know. We can't just make stuff up like the MSM does, now can we? ;)

83 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:18:43pm

re: #35 DeathtotheSwiss

I think the AP has been reading my diary.

Ha! A diary, indeed.


Dear Diary,

When is that dreamy hunk gonna sweep me off my feet and rescue me from my mundane existence? My psyche is all battered and bruised, and yesterday was my most unhappiest birthday of all! I didn't even get that gov't subsidized pony I was promised. It's so unfair!

Ineffectually yours,
Whiny AP Socialist

84 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:18:54pm

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How so? Long time gamer here.

I started reading up on the military history of the Middle Ages after hitting fourth level as a fighter.

At my feet rigth now is a box with my copies of THE ART OF WAR by Sun Tzu, THE ART OF WAR by Niccolo Machiavelli, and HOW TO MAKE WAR by James Dunnigan.

85 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:19:22pm

I wonder where the Hell this person lives, because, this is the first Fourth I've spent in Texas and it seemed like everybody in the entire county was celebrating. The base spent a crapload on fireworks, but over a dozen surrounding neighborhoods were shooting off dynamite into the sky from before the sun went down to well after I was in bed.

Saying that republicans and democrats, conservatives and liberals, all feel the same way is so clueless it's beyond disengenuous. My wife and mother-in-law are Democrats and guess who enjoyed the festivities alongside me and my young Anarchist two-year-old son! Whoever wrote this article is no doubt living in an echo-chamber, possibly doesn't know any conversvatives...possibly doesn't even know any actual Americans.

86 brakes  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:19:54pm

But I thought we conservatives were the unhappy ones, clinging to our Bibles, bigotry and guns.

87 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:20:01pm

re: #65 jaunte

O! who can save us?

Mighty Mouse.

88 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:20:02pm

re: #71 baxtrice

yeah,it was an incredibly well written and fleshed out series.lost love,friendship and redemption.

89 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:20:26pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wicked naughty evil FurryOldGuyJeans. Next thing you know, you're be setting alight the Grail shaped beacon.

Just as long as you don't ask me to cut down the forest with a herring.

"It's only a flesh wound!"

90 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:20:33pm

To the AP, some PJ:
[Link: www.buildfreedom.com...]

91 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:20:35pm

re: #75 David IV of Georgia

you're not a moonbat.

92 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:20:57pm

re: #66 Dolphin

I-

I'm FILLED, Obama!

I'm FILLED with your SOCIAL REVISION!

I'm FILLED with your SOCIAL REVISIONISM which worked SO WELL in Chicago!

I'm FILLED with your SOCIAL REVISION of Bottom Lines from the taxed-pockets of We, the People to the Gilded Accounts of Few, Developers!

/Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Debt, I will fear no weevil, for Obama fulfills! Obama FILLS ME WITH IT. Obama is FULL OF IT!

93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:21:25pm

re: #89 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just as long as you don't ask me to cut down the forest with a herring.
blockquote>

Oh? Please?

94 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:21:29pm

re: #83 Slumbering Behemoth

You've been reading my diary as well!

95 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:22:59pm

Lasso Jimmy Carter hold him down and smother him with kisses. that will fix the American psyche.

96 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:23:26pm
97 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:23:26pm

re: #88 Boondock St. Bender

and don't forget Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV!

I keep hoping the creator of Bebop will give us the prequel, but hopefully it won't be like what Lucas did with his prequels.

98 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:23:31pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wicked naughty evil FurryOldGuyJeans. Next thing you know, you're be setting alight the Grail shaped beacon.

I once ran MPATHG as a D & D adventure. I had a lot of sadistic fun with the fake grails.

99 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:23:57pm
100 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:24:02pm

re: #85 DeathtotheSwiss

I wonder where the Hell this person lives, because, this is the first Fourth I've spent in Texas and it seemed like everybody in the entire county was celebrating. The base spent a crapload on fireworks, but over a dozen surrounding neighborhoods were shooting off dynamite into the sky from before the sun went down to well after I was in bed.

Saying that republicans and democrats, conservatives and liberals, all feel the same way is so clueless it's beyond disengenuous. My wife and mother-in-law are Democrats and guess who enjoyed the festivities alongside me and my young Anarchist two-year-old son! Whoever wrote this article is no doubt living in an echo-chamber, possibly doesn't know any conversvatives...possibly doesn't even know any actual Americans.

If anyone ever starts a war in Texas on July 4th, no one will notice. I like the fireworks that shake the ground and windows myself. Probably homemade pipebombs. Spent many a July 5th deaf as a child.

101 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:24:18pm

Charles, the defendants in the Holy Land case are asking Federal judge Jorge Solis (Bush 41 appointee) to dismiss the case again:

Holy Land defendants ask judge to dismiss terrorism financing case

Attorneys for the five Holy Land Foundation defendants scheduled for retrial in September have asked a judge to dismiss the terrorism financing case, accusing federal prosecutors of misconduct for allowing nonevidentiary materials into the jury room.

They say that those materials – a mixture of government case overviews and unadmitted wiretaps and reports – created a rift among jurors that unfairly forced last fall's mistrial after 19 days of deliberations, according to court papers.

Prosecutors admit that their staff inadvertently put demonstrative exhibits and some unadmitted materials in the jury room. But the government argues that those materials did not cause the mistrial, and that such a mistake is not reason enough to dismiss the case.

102 attaboid  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:24:19pm

re: #87 The Other Les

O! who can save us?

He's got the ears.

103 EE  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:24:50pm

It sounds like AP has been reading and copying the material put out by the Nazis when they were rousing the German public to put the Nazis into power. Alles mus anders sein! (Everything must change!)
AP is blowing the trumpets for the Messiah of Change!

In this case, however, the candidate that AP is touting, the candidate of change, seems to be the King of Flip-Flops, the candidate who has drastically changed his positions. Was the Flip-Flop King wearing a mask when he advocated positions on the Left, or is he wearing a mask now, during the 4 or 5 months of his general election campaign when he pretends to be a centrist. When he says "this has always been my position", he is clearly lying, because he could not have been on the Left and in the Center simultaneously, and his positions have changed as his targeted audience changed. What he have is a candidate who is a fraud and is not who he pretends to be (he was either lying then or he is lying now). And we have the AP that shills for this fraud.

104 Mich-again  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:25:14pm
Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going.

Sounds to me like they used Mapquest.

105 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:25:22pm

WHY did I click the link to that damnable AP article?! I was so HAPPY! Life was going so WELL! Now I'm simply MISERABLE!

/just doing my part to make AP's day
/may I vomit now?

106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:26:51pm

re: #98 The Other Les

I once ran MPATHG as a D & D adventure. I had a lot of sadistic fun with the fake grails.

Did the same thing. Magic Coconuts of Speed. Squirells with 100 hp and a Vorpal attack. Druids objecting to the King's "Fireball Fun in the Forest" vacation promotion.

107 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:27:15pm

re: #97 baxtrice

That would be horrible!(lucasing the prequals)but,yes there is more to tell.even jet,faye,edward and ein after the last episode.what happened to them?

108 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:27:23pm

So according to AP, should I change my name to MiserableWantsToGoBackToHisCountryAmerican?

/screw AP! I love America! It is the best!

109 Mich-again  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:27:37pm

3 more days to the Myrtle Beach vacation. Woo hoo!

Oh, I forgot, this thread is supposed to be a pity party. soooorry.

110 Macker  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:27:52pm

re: #28 jaunte

Same here. Malaise! Everybody run, it's a rabbit!

There, fixed that for ya!

111 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:28:16pm

Perhaps America needs therapy with Dr. Dennis Leary.

*Language Warning, but hilarious*

112 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:28:46pm

re: #91 Boondock St. Bender

you're not a moonbat.

Phew. I'm glad that's been cleared up.

113 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:28:52pm

re: #108 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

So according to AP, should I change my name to MiserableWantsToGoBackToHisCountryAmerican?

/screw AP! I love America! It is the best!

I guess I should change my name to TooLazyToPreviewHisCommentsAmerican

114 Mich-again  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:29:05pm

re: #103 EE

Obama is starting to remind me of Sir Robin.

115 itellu3times  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:29:19pm

re: #19 VegasRick

It took seven (7) AP writers liars to produce this article piece of shit!

Oh now, isn't that awfully judgemental? I mean, if things are improving all the time and not getting worse, can't we say something nice about it? AP writers have feelings too, you know.
/sarc

"This is the best of all possible worlds!" says the optimist.
"I'm afraid so," agrees the pessimist.

116 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:29:24pm

re: #85 DeathtotheSwiss

Maybe the author is in a Baghdad hotel, out of stringers, and needs to make up something else for their boss.

117 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:30:02pm

re: #112 David IV of Georgia

always happy to be of service.

118 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:30:35pm

re: #86 brakes

But I thought we conservatives were the unhappy ones, clinging to our Bibles, bigotry and guns.

And strangely, amid all our fear and suspicion, we're having more babies than the angst-ridden ecologically sensitive liberals.

Maybe we really are happier and more hopeful?

119 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:30:50pm

re: #105 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WHY did I click the link to that damnable AP article?! I was so HAPPY! Life was going so WELL! Now I'm simply MISERABLE!

/just doing my part to make AP's day
/may I vomit now?

For you my friend: [Link: www.livescience.com...]

And this article: Rush to get 38 Mil a year
Should put THEIR depression a little more in perspective.

When the devil is getting 38 million dollars a year to continue making the "angels" life Hell, one tends to question his/her own faith

120 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:30:50pm

It comes down to whether happiness is intrinsic or extrinsic. When a person is committed to ideals, such as duty (including family, friends, work, community) and honor, and lives his or her life accordingly, there is deep fulfillment and contentment.

NO ONE can "make" another person happy. Contribute mightily to happiness, yes, but happiness is an individual responsibility.

121 mglazer  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:31:33pm

Not sure what foreign-drivel idiot wrote that article - how do they make this stuff up is it that easy to make such large generalizations and not be taken to task to prove what you say is true?

But this American is Proud to be American and will never forget 9.11

Always have been and always will be to live in the freest and safest (thanks to our brave patriotic citizen volunteer army) country on Earth

So the AP and its foreign and american writers get a clue!

Do the 1200 Soldiers who took a pledge, on the 4th, of re-enlisting in the army in Saddam Hussein's (Not Obama Hussein Barak) ex-palace fit into this AP drivel.

Check out the wires for some great pictures of that event - aamzing!

Osama Hussein Barak will rot in Hell not in America!

Vote Republican ticket!

122 CapeCoddah  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:31:40pm

Robin Williams Peace plan for America.
[Link: www.sodahead.com...]

123 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:32:03pm

Once I tried clinging to my fireworks, but my hands got sore.

124 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:32:33pm

re: #120 goddessoftheclassroom

It comes down to whether happiness is intrinsic or extrinsic. When a person is committed to ideals, such as duty (including family, friends, work, community) and honor, and lives his or her life accordingly, there is deep fulfillment and contentment.

NO ONE can "make" another person happy. Contribute mightily to happiness, yes, but happiness is an individual responsibility.

Makers and Takers: Why Conservatives Work Harder, Feel Happier, Have Closer Families, Take Fewer Drugs, Give More Generously, Value Honesty More, Are Less ... Even Hug Their Children More Than Liberals

125 jones  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:32:47pm

Subtitle of article,

"Vote Democrat and we'll leave you alone."

126 Mich-again  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:33:03pm

re: #120 goddessoftheclassroom

NO ONE can "make" another person happy. Contribute mightily to happiness, yes, but happiness is an individual responsibility.

I agree. Happiness comes from within. And another old saying is true as well. Misery loves company.

127 pat  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:33:30pm

Heard the story on AP radio today. Implied the Obamessiah would bring free fuel and pay for no work.

128 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:33:37pm

re: #107 Boondock St. Bender

*crosses fingers* I we get more -- I want to know what happened.

129 nikis-knight  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:33:41pm
The nation’s psyche is battered and bruised, the sense of pessimism palpable. Young or old, Republican or Democrat, economically stable or struggling, Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

Just one counter example here, but I love my life, love my country, and resent anyone who thinks I need them to "rescue" me from either.

130 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:34:23pm

re: #114 Mich-again

Obama is starting to remind me of Sir Robin.

The Ballad of Brave Sir Robin

Bravely bold Sir Robin rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die, O brave Sir Robin!
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin!
He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp,
Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken;
To have his kneecaps split, and his body burned away;
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Robin!

His head smashed in and his heart cut out
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged
And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off
And his pen--

Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge...

131 Drained Brain  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:34:54pm

Unfair, unbalanced, and written by a committee to the tune of "It Sucks to Be Us."

Infinitely more sense and historical perspective from Victor Davis Hanson.

132 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:35:31pm

re: #127 pat

Heard the story on AP radio today. Implied the Obamessiah would bring free fuel and pay for no work.

Old Soviet joke:
I pretend to work as long as the State pretends to pay me.

133 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:35:32pm

re: #75 David IV of Georgia

I woke up happy yesterday. What's wrong with me?

For the first time in a long while, so did I. I guess I just get giddy when celebrating the birth of my nation. I had a great time, and I didn't even light any fireworks.

134 Paul  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:35:42pm

WTF? Why is my America so different from AP's America? Something's going on here, the MSM is gearing up for the election and articles like this will reach a crescendo just before election day. Poor John McCain won't know what hit him.

135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:36:07pm

re: #130 David IV of Georgia

What is your name?

Barack Obama

What is your quest?

To become President.

What is your policy on Iraq?

Run. WAIT! AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE!

136 mglazer[deleted]  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:36:18pm
137 mattm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:36:21pm

Um, Wow. Where the hell to begin to say what is wrong with that, uh, article. The only people who are that depressed about the US are democrats and liberals.

That is not news, it belongs in the opinion section, or better yet the trash. I wonder how many papers will run that.

138 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:36:32pm

re: #134 Paul

WTF? Why is my America so different from AP's America? Something's going on here, the MSM is gearing up for the election and articles like this will reach a crescendo just before election day. Poor John McCain won't know what hit him.

We should invade AP's America before it starts to spread.

139 DeathtotheSwiss[deleted]  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:37:25pm
140 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:38:10pm

re: #134 Paul

WTF? Why is my America so different from AP's America? Something's going on here, the MSM is gearing up for the election and articles like this will reach a crescendo just before election day. Poor John McCain won't know what hit him.

Lefties compare reality to their utopia, and find doom and gloom.

On the right we look at reality, and say it could be worse, but I will make it better.

141 Marine Mom  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:39:10pm

This makes me so mad!
I can't get through the pledge of allegiance or the national anthem without choking up. It happens every time- I struggle to regain my composure.
This is the greatest country in the world by far.
We are blessed with such great abundance in every way.
I thank heaven above to have been born in the United States of America.

142 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:39:29pm

re: #140 jcm

G'night. Off to watch the movie.

143 tradewind  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:39:49pm

re: #134 Paul

But thankfully, most people who would be influenced by that barrage for Barack can barely read, and don't do a lot of it unless it involves instructions for cashing in some government entitlement .

144 cjstavern  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:40:32pm

This reminds me of when the liberals say the rest of the world hates us.....well....yes.....the liberals of the world hates us and it intensifies the longer a Republican is in office. The longer democrats/liberals are out of power (the presidency) the more helpless they feel. This has nothing to do with how "democrats and Republicans alike feel" this has to do with the desperation of the left.

145 yesandno  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:40:33pm

Hope these people don't hold their breath waiting for the rescue. Better to look at the mirror and see who is available for help.

And despite the $4+ a gallon gasoline, the biggest problem we face on the economic front is the rule of the power of suggestion. These people have been harping for the last 7 years how horrible the economy is. Eventually, if you beat the drum long enough, you get the glass wall to shatter. Economy is part mental. If you think you can make it, then you will.

I am not diminishing the fact some people out there are suffering....they are. What I am saying is they have to get involved in changing the situation. I remember years ago when the steel mills moved out of parts of the country and people sat around for months drawing unemployment and crying woe is me. I always wondered why they just didn't move to where there were jobs. Maybe not doing what they did, but drawing a salary anyway. Always easier to get a job if you have a job.

146 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:40:50pm
The nation’s psyche is battered and bruised, the sense of pessimism palpable. Young or old, Republican or Democrat, economically stable or struggling, Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

Hey AP, the Daily Kos does not represent America.

147 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:40:53pm

Who the hell are the Optimist club? Are they as optimistic as the UN Human Rights Commission supports human rights?

148 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:41:46pm

re: #138 DeathtotheSwiss

We should invade AP's America before it starts to spread.

Invade Minneapolis?

149 itellu3times  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:42:14pm

re: #127 pat

Heard the story on AP radio today. Implied the Obamessiah would bring free fuel and pay for no work.

He will tax that filthy rich upper 3% to benefit the filthy poor 97%. Call him Baby Huey (Long).

150 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:42:21pm

I was fealing down being stuck in a hotel for the past 5 weeks hoping around the country. But overall I'm in good health and making my Amercian Dream become a reality one day at a time working hard and looking for a future Mrs. Idle Drifter to love. Damn it enough with the doom and gloom. America kicks ass!

Just my two cents.

151 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:42:32pm

re: #136 mglazer

Dude! WTF?!?

152 sadhu[deleted]  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:42:46pm
153 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:43:42pm

re: #134 Paul

WTF? Why is my America so different from AP's America? Something's going on here, the MSM is gearing up for the election and articles like this will reach a crescendo just before election day. Poor John McCain won't know what hit him.

The Dems keep saying there are 2 Americas, the AP apparently just listens to one of them.

154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:44:35pm

In the "who's suprised" news today;

Hamas Suspends Prisoner Exchange Talks With Israel

The Hamas declaration to suspend the prisoner exchange talks came after Israel decided to keep cargo crossing points with the Gaza Strip closed - in retaliation for continued rocket attacks by Palestinian militants against southern Israel.

The talks are supposed to lead to freedom for Israeli soldier Gilad Schalit, who was seized from his Gaza border post two years ago by Palestinian militants. Egypt has been brokering talks that would see Schalit freed in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners that Israel holds.

Start executing one terrorist every day until Schalit is released. If they run out, the IDF should target a Hamas building daily and level every structure with a 100 meters until he is let go.

155 sadhu  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:45:22pm

Zombie,

Seen this at MIT?

[Link: hacks.mit.edu...]

156 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:46:36pm

re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude! WTF?!?

I might be wrong about him being a troll, he's been registered since 2004. But, the few comments he has made since January of this year are all very perplexing. I dunno...this last one really hit me wrong.

157 f451  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:46:46pm

You must be a superman to work for the AP! Apparently their writers can divine not only the innermost thoughts and feelings of individuals, but of entire nations!

158 Paul  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:46:58pm

That AP article, in its entirety, appeared in today's Milwaukee Journal, not that it curtailed anyone's celebration. The liberal Journal is, of course, completely in the tank for Obama.

159 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:47:06pm

re: #129 nikis-knight

I resent the very use of the word 'rescue'. It implies weakness, helplessness, and confused befuddlement that I do not want attributed to me. Whenever I read a book or watch a movie I identify with the rescue-er not the rescue-ee. I don't need rescuing.

160 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:47:24pm

Please! DON'T QUOTE THE TROLLS!

161 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:48:02pm

re: #160 Sharmuta

Please! DON'T QUOTE THE TROLLS!

How will people know why we're insulting them then?

162 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:48:25pm

re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude! WTF?!?

It seems someone violated the Iron Fist Rule.

163 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:48:26pm

re: #134 Paul

WTF? Why is my America so different from AP's America? Something's going on here, the MSM is gearing up for the election and articles like this will reach a crescendo just before election day. Poor John McCain won't know what hit him.

Most Americans are too happy to get their news from AP.

164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:49:07pm

‘Germ warfare’ fear over African monkeys taken to Iran

Manji said scientists at the Razi Vaccine and Serum Research Institute in Iran had bought 215 vervet monkeys from him this year but he had become suspicious about their true motive, although he was still trading with them. They had “spent a lot of money” on getting the monkeys, even sending over scientists to check on each consignment.

“Iran is very secretive,” said Manji, who has been exporting monkeys for 22 years. “They said it [the monkeys] was for ‘our country’, for vaccine. [They said] ‘We don’t buy vaccine from anywhere; we prepare our own vaccine’.

“But I think they use it for something else. You know why? Because they don’t go on kilos. Iran wants [monkeys weighing] 1.5kg to 2.5kg, [but] 1.5kg for vaccine is not possible.”

Rubibira indicated that finding out what the Iranians wanted the monkeys for would be difficult. “They cannot say, you know. They are secretive. They wouldn’t tell the truth.”

165 Josephine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:49:33pm

Avatar test (definitely not OT).

166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:49:36pm

re: #161 DeathtotheSwiss

How will people know why we're insulting them then?

They can scroll up

167 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:49:36pm

re: #161 DeathtotheSwiss

just leads to alot of deletions later,and stinky goes through alot more trash bags.

168 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:49:39pm

re: #161 DeathtotheSwiss

Because all you're doing is getting yourself deleted when they're that bad.

169 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:49:58pm

re: #165 Josephine

nice.

170 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:50:05pm

re: #165 Josephine

nice!

171 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:50:43pm

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

‘Germ warfare’ fear over African monkeys taken to Iran

Oh, no.

172 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:50:47pm

michelle o wrote that.
that buffoon is not describing me.
i had a wonder independence day. i counted my blessings all day long.
god bless america.
everyone in the world dreams of coming here.

173 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:50:48pm

re: #165 Josephine

I love it!

174 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:51:05pm

re: #165 Josephine

Avatar test (definitely not OT).

Awesome!

175 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:51:05pm

Kragar, Sharmuta, Boondock,

Points taken. Will heed your advice from now on.

176 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:51:23pm

Hot Air Headlines....
British hermits: the growing lure of the solitary life


"I love it," she explains, from the unplastered interior of her home, which smells of stone and damp and where everything in sight is functional and worn. "It means I can fart and belch as I like. I can wander round in my pyjamas, make as much mess as I like, go to bed when I want, and there are no arguments."

Yeah!

177 swamprat  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:51:27pm

Something is seriously wrong with the AP. It is not random, and when they were even worse a while back, they would post these sort of stories without listing an author
Fairly recently, Charles showed an AP story with some unusually out-of-context verbiage. What Charles did not say was that three, count em, three AP authors had similar stories with the exact same wording embedded in them. Then as I was searching, the stories seemed to come up with less hits. The AP is not what it paints itself to be, or it is being used by somebody who knows how to game the system.

178 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:51:32pm

re: #171 MandyManners

is dinnerjacket gonna mate with them?

179 sadhu  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:51:42pm

re: #175 DeathtotheSwiss

Kragar, Sharmuta, Boondock,

Points taken. Will heed your advice from now on.

same here

180 LarrySheldon  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:52:23pm

You should have maintained the boycott.

181 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:52:33pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Hot Air Headlines....
British hermits: the growing lure of the solitary life

Yeah!


And she'll never have to worry about breeding!

182 wolfie  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:52:39pm

re: #165 Josephine

Avatar test (definitely not OT).

Just Perfect ! :)

183 Roentgen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:53:29pm

From the AP story:
"I could cry," she responds when asked how things are.

"We used to have more money than we knew what to do with..."


Don't you want to dry your eyes? If you were to believe this tripe, you'd be so sad because in this great country was someone lucky enough to be recently swimming in cash-money, but, geez who's fault might it be--a few years later it'd been all pissed away. Hope! Change! B-Ho will fix it rock bottom guaranteed that if at some point in time you are firing on all cylinders, it will never go away. We-e-e-e! I can't wait! The AP has figured out that there's a new sheriff in town, and he gonna make life sweet for you, me, and everyone. Must...vote...Obama....must...vote...Obam-a-a-a-ah .

184 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:53:52pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

ummm...i can do the same thing,(not that i do)but i live in an apt.

185 joecitizen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:54:36pm

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

‘Germ warfare’ fear over African monkeys taken to Iran

that's terribly Tom Clancyish...

186 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:54:36pm

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

‘Germ warfare’ fear over African monkeys taken to Iran

Right out of a Clancy novel.

187 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:55:04pm

re: #178 Boondock St. Bender

is dinnerjacket gonna mate with them?

He already has.

188 Timbre  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:55:15pm

My first clue as I trudged through the doorway of my dilapidated house following my firing at work was that the cat had lost all his fur. I went to turn on the light, and nothing still happened, as it had not for the past seven years. My neighbor was dead in my backyard. Apparently he had been fighting with the dog over the final drops of water in his bowl...the dog's, not the neighbor's.

/flushes pity pot

189 BBev  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:55:19pm

This whole thing has to be put in to prospective. The left is doing everything it can to push America into a depression, to make the whole country beholden to them. I blame the currant oil prices on George Soros and his ilk and the housing situation that only took them 5 years to push into the minds of the public. The left surly knows what they are doing and are doing everything they can to make America look like a shit hole.

190 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:55:45pm

re: #185 joecitizen

that's terribly Tom Clancyish...

re: #186 jcm

Right out of a Clancy novel.

To the very second.

191 stevieray  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:55:47pm

Its gotta suck being a newspaper reporter nowadays... never fun to be in a dying industry.

192 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:56:00pm

re: #184 Boondock St. Bender

ummm...i can do the same thing,(not that i do)but i live in an apt.

Marketing is selling someone something they already have and can use for free but don't know they want. If you can sell someone an idea, you are a master salesman.

Viva la capitalism!

193 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:56:28pm

re: #187 MandyManners

you have to warn before you do that!(almost choked)lol

194 wolfie  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:56:39pm

re: #187 MandyManners

He already has.

Aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwkkkkk! :O

195 itellu3times  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:57:00pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Hot Air Headlines....
British hermits: the growing lure of the solitary life
Yeah!

Just so it has bandwidth.

But for me, signing off for the night. Please imagine a flag waving and the Star Spangled Banner playing, and then a nice test pattern.

196 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:57:35pm

re: #195 itellu3times

Wow, I remember those things.

197 joecitizen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:58:11pm

re: #190 MandyManners

To the very second.


cool...mebbe I'll hit the lotto tonight and go sell hotdogs on the beach in Costa Rica...

198 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:58:54pm

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Robin Williams Peace plan for America.
[Link: www.sodahead.com...]

Holy crap! I didn't know he had that in him. I guess it shouldn't be too much of a surprise, though, as I heard that he has gone over seas several times to entertain the troops, and on his own dime as well.

199 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:59:14pm

re: #185 joecitizen

GET OUT OF MY MIND!

;-)

200 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:59:35pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

hear that tone...

201 joecitizen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:59:47pm

re: #199 jcm

GET OUT OF MY MIND!

;-)


kismet,baby

202 Josephine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 7:59:57pm

Thanks, all, for your positive comments re. my avatar!

It's a vintage postcard that I just had to buy; I love it. My husband did the technical work.

203 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:00:23pm

re: #186 jcm

re: #185 joecitizen

It is right out the Tom Clancy Novel, I wish I would remember which one. I think its the one after "Debt of Honor" and it was almost repeated in Rainbow Six with a group of corporate funded eco-terrorists bent on cleansing the world of the human race except for their little part of the world.

204 MrArchieBunker  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:00:30pm

From President Reagan's farewell address: "Because we’re a great nation, our challenges seem complex. It will always be this way. But as long as we remember our first principles and believe in ourselves, the future will always be ours."

205 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:00:42pm

re: #200 jaunte

400 hertz. I know it well.

206 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:01:44pm

re: #201 joecitizen

Someone has been reading Dune.

/Fear is the mind killer.

207 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:01:49pm

re: #139 DeathtotheSwiss

Fucking trolls...someone bring out the troll hammer.

mglazer isn't a troll (he's been around for a long time), but that is an odd post.

208 Attaboid  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:02:19pm

Want to see the Tour de France?

209 Roentgen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:02:26pm

re: #205 Killgore Trout

Slightly below "A."

210 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:02:31pm

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

Some of us drink.

211 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:04pm

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

i guess we all have bad days..lord knows i do.

212 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:05pm

re: #195 itellu3times

Just so it has bandwidth.

But for me, signing off for the night. Please imagine a flag waving and the Star Spangled Banner playing, and then a nice test pattern.

When LGF goes down from time to time, instead of a page saying the server is down or whatever, put up a test pattern instead.

213 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:24pm

re: #190 MandyManners

To the very second.

iirc in the novel, middle easterners used a Christian nun to breed Ebola. Clancy also penned a the idea of flying commercial jets into buildings.

214 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:31pm

re: #209 Roentgen

Yeah but you can always get an A 440 from a dial tone. Very handy.

215 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:35pm

re: #189 BBev

This whole thing has to be put in to prospective. The left is doing everything it can to push America into a depression, to make the whole country beholden to them. I blame the currant oil prices on George Soros and his ilk and the housing situation that only took them 5 years to push into the minds of the public. The left surly knows what they are doing and are doing everything they can to make America look like a shit hole.

I'll quibble with you on this...not the left, the leaders of the left. And I doubt they want the country to get THAT bad, just bad enough that the average American will be affected...not bad enough that it'll affect their lives in any meaningful way. Leftist idealogists and leaders share the common: End justifies the means tripe that allows Michael Moores and Pelosis to tell full-on lies, smear their enemies and basically just do anything they can to destroy the opposition so that they can go on and start fixing Americans. The left actually wants to reform the citizens, not the government but the regular people who actually enjoyed the recent Fourth of July celebration.

216 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:53pm

400Hz:

217 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:03:54pm

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

That's a good idea.

218 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:04:38pm

I suppose it's no coincidence that this AP piece comes to my attention at the same time this film is on the T.V.

219 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:04:47pm

re: #213 MacGregor

yes he did,i remember he was on tv the morning after 9/11.

220 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:05:34pm

re: #203 Idle Drifter

re: #185 joecitizen

It is right out the Tom Clancy Novel, I wish I would remember which one. I think its the one after "Debt of Honor" and it was almost repeated in Rainbow Six with a group of corporate funded eco-terrorists bent on cleansing the world of the human race except for their little part of the world.



Executive Orders.

221 Roentgen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:06:31pm

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

When LGF goes down from time to time, instead of a page saying the server is down or whatever, put up a test pattern instead.

Perhaps that fancy graphics site Charles found to try and place websites on an east-west, colorized continuum.

Or this month's Rolling Stone cover with the Hussein-whore on the cover, all airbrushed and whatnot.

222 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:06:57pm

re: #213 MacGregor

So did Stephen King in The Running Man.

223 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:07:33pm

It was a dark and stormy night. For this, I blamed George Bush. What was worse, my internet was acting up, and I knew it was the illegal wire tapping that was the cause. There was no joy to be found in this town, mainly because everyone is unhappy in their pitiful, meaningless jobs just to support the everything else in their life. It's hard to keep up with the Jones, and I blame Republicans. Sure, there's gas in their tanks and food on the table, but no one is happy with just that. They want more, and if it weren't for Bush and his meddling neo-cons, we could get away with it too.

224 Roentgen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:08:00pm

re: #223 Sharmuta

Heh.

225 Josephine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:08:05pm

re: #188 Timbre

What is this?

226 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:08:45pm

re: #220 jcm

Thank you. Excellent book, though parts of its fiction may become fact.

227 kawfytawk  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:08:49pm

Good golly, I have moved around this planet much of my life and I have to say I am always so very glad to be home in the good ol USA. Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed many of the places I have lived and will treasure the memories but this country with all the good and bad is still, the BEST place on earth to live. IMHO

I think many of us have taken so much for granted, we have become spoiled and frankly, whiny.

we have so many advantages that far too many people only dream of....it kills me, when in the grand scheme of things, people can be so shallow.

I am thankful for having had the opportunity to live abroad for several years while my children were in their teens. They can now appreciate all that they have and all that they can be as a citizen of the US.

228 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:09:32pm

re: #219 Boondock St. Bender

yes he did,i remember he was on tv the morning after 9/11.

He must have been shocked to see his ideas turned into ingredients of unrestricted warfare against us. Or maybe not.

229 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:10:03pm

re: #223 Sharmuta

That's 99% of College level Intro to Creative Writing submissions.

230 BBev  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:10:37pm

re: #215 DeathtotheSwiss

I hear ya. But we are not just dealing with the American left we are dealing with European left also and more then that we are also dealing with middle eastern governments that would love to take us down a few pegs.

231 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:11:26pm

re: #213 MacGregor

iirc in the novel, middle easterners used a Christian nun to breed Ebola. Clancy also penned a the idea of flying commercial jets into buildings.

Remember this?

232 Josephine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:11:52pm

re: #223 Sharmuta

Tell it like it is, Toots.

233 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:11:52pm

re: #230 BBev

Agreed whole-heartedly, this is where the term "useful-idiot" comes into play so perfectly.

234 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:12:09pm

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

‘Germ warfare’ fear over African monkeys taken to Iran

I'm trying to remember a novel I read several years ago that dealt with something similar. Terrorist used monkeys to extract the Ebola virus and developed a method to make the virus airborne by the use of aerosol cans. The plan was place the cans malls, convention centers and stadium throughout the US and let the virus spread.

I can't remember the book or who wrote it, but it definitely made you think and scared the crap out me. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

235 Roentgen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:12:22pm

re: #227 kawfytawk

Good golly, I have moved around this planet much of my life and I have to say I am always so very glad to be home in the good ol USA. Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed many of the places I have lived and will treasure the memories but this country with all the good and bad is still, the BEST place on earth to live. IMHO

I think many of us have taken so much for granted, we have become spoiled and frankly, whiny.
we have so many advantages that far too many people only dream of....it kills me, when in the grand scheme of things, people can be so shallow.

I am thankful for having had the opportunity to live abroad for several years while my children were in their teens. They can now appreciate all that they have and all that they can be as a citizen of the US.

Our family has also been lucky enough to be abroad much of our time. Your view is from a high place, and clear.

236 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:12:27pm

re: #227 kawfytawk

Bravo!

237 David Simon  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:13:01pm
"There are so many things you have to do to survive now," says Larue Lawson of Forest Park, Ill. "It used to be just clothes on your back, food on the table and a roof over your head. Now, it's everything.

"I wish it was just simpler."

Lawson, mind you, is all of 16 years old.

AP expects to get paid for crap like that?

238 spidly  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:13:37pm

yeah, well this is a bit of This Week's Parshat Hashavua via email from my senior Rabbi;

Yet the years since the terrorist attack on 9/11 have given us more to think about in terms of what the United States represents in the world. Rather than being respected as a beacon of liberty and freedom, many now see us as indiscriminate bullies who will use any and all means to get our way. In our fight against terrorism we tore a country apart which we know, despite its despotic rule, had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. We sacrificed not only our own men and women, but untold number of innocent civilians, causing continuing havoc throughout the country. We have imprisoned hundreds of suspected terrorists at Guantanemo and other secret detention sites, claiming they have no international Geneva Convention guarantees and have no rights of due process. We would probably have no sympathy for those interned, except for the knowledge that a not insignificant number seemingly were not engaged in terrorist activities. We were horrified by the published photos of the treatment of inmates at Abu Graib and probably would not have believed the claims had photos not been proudly taken of the acts whose purpose was simply to humiliate. And aware of the challenge that terrorists and their horrendous acts present, we are enormously troubled by the permission of those who act in our name to employ torture in their interrogations. This despite the claims by many authorities that acts of torture do not produce the information sought.

We remain proud Americans, but we know that the liberties that have been revealed in recent years do not conform with our notion of what our nation must stand for. We are engaged in the process of choosing a new leader of our nation. As we think to the future we look to a president who will renew our pride and promise to rid us of policies that undermine that pride. We will listen carefully over the next few months until election day in order to choose national leaders who will lead us in a better direction, to put us back on an honorable course.

I invite you to visit [Link: www.nrcat.org...] where you can view a national religious petition urging our government to reject the use of terrorism. I urge you to read it and decide for yourself if this reflects your values.

And he complains how political fundamentalists are.... projects JUST a little bit on this issue and a few others as well but then what leftard doesn't....maybe he'll move on when the Messiah is elected.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:13:47pm

re: #227 kawfytawk

If this country is so bad why do so many people want to come here?

240 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:14:04pm

re: #234 jorline

I think someone mentioned it before, I'm pretty sure this is Rainbow Six by Tom Clancy.

241 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:14:49pm

We got through this.
And we got through this.

And our country was the better for it.

And AP can just stuff it.

242 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:14:50pm

re: #231 NJDhockeyfan

Hadn't seen that before. Good find.

243 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:15:11pm

re: #234 jorline

I'm trying to remember a novel I read several years ago that dealt with something similar. Terrorist used monkeys to extract the Ebola virus and developed a method to make the virus airborne by the use of aerosol cans. The plan was place the cans malls, convention centers and stadium throughout the US and let the virus spread.

I can't remember the book or who wrote it, but it definitely made you think and scared the crap out me. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

It was breed in humans come to think of it.

244 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:15:17pm

re: #237 David Simon

AP expects to get paid for crap like that?


It's like an Onion article.

245 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:15:32pm

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

that's what I keep asking!

246 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:15:54pm

re: #237 David Simon

Make it simpler, Lawson. You can.

247 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:16:02pm

re: #238 spidly

Will you be responding to his message?

248 BBev  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:16:33pm

re: #233 DeathtotheSwiss

Agreed whole-heartedly, this is where the term "useful-idiot" comes into play so perfectly.

Amen

249 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:16:43pm

re: #242 MacGregor

Hadn't seen that before. Good find.

I remember when that happened. Reston is just north of me. Whenever someone mentions Reston I always think about the Ebola monkeys.

250 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:17:28pm

EE (#103),

In this case, however, the candidate that AP is touting, the candidate of change, seems to be the King of Flip-Flops,

Or is he?

A Clarification
A Message to American Voters
By Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)

My Fellow Americans:

You may have read recent news reports that suggest I have modified my position regarding the redeployment of American military personnel in Iraq. Unfortunately, these reports have been the source of much confusion and anxiety among the millions of voters who have supported my campaign, and I would like to take this opportunity to address their concerns.

Let me be crystal clear: if elected president, my first act will be to call for the immediate withdrawal of all American troops from Iraq. I have always been consistent and forthright in this position, and I want to reassure my supporters that my recent statement backtracking from it was just some bullshit my staff came up with to tack to the center for the general election. To win this election, it will be critical to appeal to the dwindling but stubborn group of idiots who cling to fantasies of American "victory" in this tragic disaster. It's an unfortunate part of the complicated game of presidential politics, but let's face it: I can't stop this war if I'm not in the White House. However, you should know by now that whatever I may say from now until November, once elected I will immediately pull the rug from these gullible pro-war rubes.

Or will I? As is obvious to all but the most deluded HuffPo retard, the surge in Iraq has produced dramatic improvements in security throughout Iraq, and the roots of a stable pro-American democracy. We have the terrorists on the run, and it would obviously be crazy for us to pull our troops from the region just as we are on the verge of victory. And it is equally obvious that everything I said in the previous paragraph was designed to placate the naive hipster moonbats I brilliantly exploited to destroy the Clintons. (You're welcome.) Now that the nomination is in the bag, I am finally free to stake out my genuine pro-victory Iraq position, and have a good laugh while the dKos morons screech like a bunch of apoplectic howler monkeys. Let's face it: at the rate I'm heading right on national security, I'll be raining nukes on Tehran by February.

See what I mean? That previous paragraph should be a signal to all of you in the progressive community just how committed I am to an immediate troop withdrawal. If that's the kind of shameless bellicose jingoism it takes to temporarily fool the neocons and extra-chromosome Jebus tards, I will do it. Just as I was willing to wear the stupid flag lapel pin to satisfy their lust for empty "patriotic" symbolism. But deep in your heart you know my real goal: to end this war, and atone to the world for the 28 nightmare years of Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush fascism. Imagine the looks on the multinational plutocrats' faces when I sign the bill that nationalizes their stupid oil industry!

...

251 Roentgen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:17:32pm

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

If this country is so bad why do so many people want to come here?

How many people promised us they would leave the U.S., even if only temporarily to Canada, should Bush be re-elected. Promised us. None left. Not the celebrities, not my co-workers and most of all--not the Klueless Kos Kids.

252 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:17:43pm

re: #240 DeathtotheSwiss

I think someone mentioned it before, I'm pretty sure this is Rainbow Six by Tom Clancy.

Thanks, scared the shit out of me. I remember thinking, why give someone whacked-out ideas.

253 David Simon  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:17:51pm

re: #244 DeathtotheSwiss

It's like an Onion article.

Precisely what I was thinking as I read it.

254 kawfytawk  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:18:31pm

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

See that's the benchmark. You can tell the type of place it is by either the mass exodus or the people willing to risk their lives on a homemade boat just to get there.

I simply have not seen an exodus from the USA....when I do....thats when I can get depressed.

255 yesandno  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:18:42pm

re: #231 NJDhockeyfan

Remember this?

Boy, I do. And if you think the AP presents a scary story of the economy, just let them get hold of anything that might threaten the life of one individual in a trillion. The case was huge about the monkeys...but then faded faster then my summer tan.

/liberals believe you don't have to die and that someone out there is cheating you with death. Everything they do is a promise to you that death is avoidable and when it occurs, you can sue just about anyone.

256 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:19:42pm
257 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:20:52pm

I think that one's been attributed to George Carlin as well.

Snopes.com is your friend!

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Robin Williams Peace plan for America.
[Link: www.sodahead.com...]

258 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:20:57pm

The sun shines on us every day.
The atmosphere brings rain.
Gravity keeps us anchored.

What pray tell, is there to bemoan?

259 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:21:41pm

jorline (#234),

The Cobra Event

By Richard Preston.

260 kawfytawk  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:22:10pm

good night friends. A day at the lake can zap all the energy right out of ya :O)

261 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:23:21pm

re: #198 Slumbering Behemoth

Holy crap! I didn't know he had that in him. I guess it shouldn't be too much of a surprise, though, as I heard that he has gone over seas several times to entertain the troops, and on his own dime as well.

I don't think that's an actual Robin Williams quote. I've seen it attributed to George Carlin as well. Probably something written anonymously that got comedians' names attached to it, like that e-mail that claimed Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rogers were badass special forces soldiers.

I'd check Snopes.com, but too lazy to do it right now...lol

262 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:24:07pm

OT: My dad is back in college getting his teaching degree. He's a heavy-hitting right-winger from back in the day, big-time Catholic too, we argue about gay marriage and evolution mainly. Good fun.

He was working on a project about the Patriot Act and wanted my take on it. Here's what I told him:

"The Patriot Act has not affected me in the slightest bit."

I have not changed anything about my use of free speech, nor will I regardless of law, since 9/11. If anything I have become more vocal about things I believe in. If I was an anti-Bush anarchist who continuously libeled and slandered the military as well as the country...I could still say the same. Nothing is more pathetic than a rebel fighting against an imaginary war.

263 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:24:58pm

re: #261 Tigger2005

that e-mail that claimed Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rogers were badass special forces soldiers

Are you trying to say they weren't? But he was a Captain!

264 spidly  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:25:56pm

re: #247 jaunte

Will you be responding to his message?

nope. probably just bitch to the junior Rabbi and go see if the M.O. congregation think Yom Kippur is about something other than global warming, abortion, and fighting the secret fundamentalist agenda.

balls.

265 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:26:12pm

re: #228 MacGregor

I'm sure he was,he's written so many nightmare scenarios for his books.almost as if they were warnings of what could happen.

266 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:26:25pm

re: #234 jorline

Tom Clancy, re: #252 jorline

Thanks, scared the shit out of me. I remember thinking, why give someone whacked-out ideas.

I think it was actually Executive Orders by Tom Clancy. I read it while I was home sick in bed from accidentally eating some vile fungus-it was an interactive novel.

267 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:26:53pm

re: #226 Idle Drifter

Thank you. Excellent book, though parts of its fiction may become fact.

That was the thing with Clancy, he kept it right on the edge of plausible.

268 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:26:58pm

re: #262 DeathtotheSwiss

Fighting imaginary wars is how they fill up the time the rest of us spend working for a living.

269 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:27:08pm

re: #254 kawfytawk

See that's the benchmark. You can tell the type of place it is by either the mass exodus or the people willing to risk their lives on a homemade boat just to get there.

I simply have not seen an exodus from the USA....when I do....thats when I can get depressed.

Well, unless it's liberals finally staying true to their vows to move to Canada or France if the Republican candidate is elected.

270 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:27:25pm

re: #264 spidly

Well, if you change your mind, you could send him this link, and ask him if it would be right to stand aside, knowing what was happening:
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

271 Olderthandirt  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:27:38pm

#14 The Other Les: Lies, lies, all lies, it's only part of the North Bound I35W Roadway and it's 7-feet short. "They" expect us to drive over that and it's not complete? Is this their payback for voting for Mondale in '84? No wonder the world is in a massive depression brought on by the BushHitlerChenySarkozy World dictatorship!

./end mental breakdown and complete restoration process.

272 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:29:35pm

re: #265 Boondock St. Bender

I'm sure he was,he's written so many nightmare scenarios for his books.almost as if they were warnings of what could happen.

Yes, I agree. I liked his early techie books, 'specially Red Storm Rising.

273 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:30:41pm

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Robin Williams Peace plan for America.
[Link: www.sodahead.com...]

False

But it's one hell of a plan.

274 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:31:10pm

re: #272 MacGregor

he has a great talent for breaking down complex military equip.into simple language.

275 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:31:21pm

re: #265 Boondock St. Bender

I'm sure he was,he's written so many nightmare scenarios for his books.almost as if they were warnings of what could happen.

I think he sat down and thought, "If I were running such and such group, what would I do?" and then wrote a book about it.

276 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:34:25pm

re: #266 David IV of Georgia

Tom Clancy, re: #252 jorline


I think it was actually Executive Orders by Tom Clancy. I read it while I was home sick in bed from accidentally eating some vile fungus-it was an interactive novel.

Thanks...and you shouldn't have ordered the bleu cheese dressing.

277 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:34:25pm

re: #275 David IV of Georgia

Tom's ex-military though and has a bunch of friends in special forces. The guy had it right on terrorists since way before 9/11.

278 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:34:30pm

re: #274 Boondock St. Bender

he has a great talent for breaking down complex military equip.into simple language.

Man, that guy took like a hunnert pages just to describe the flash point of a nuklear chain reaction in Sum of All Fears.

279 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:34:35pm

David IV of Georgia (#266),

You're right, Executive Orders used aerosol dispersal, Cobra Event used a crystalline wafer.

280 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:36:08pm

/pimf - thats worse than nucular

281 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:36:42pm

re: #273 jorline

False

But it's one hell of a plan.

LOL that's like the Patrick Henry "Christian nation" quote that was actually by some anonymous writer in a mid-50's southern segregationist magazine. The writer presented an actual quote from Henry's will, then followed up with his own remarks that the quote helped prove America is a Christian nation. Fort years later someone attributed the anonymous writer's words to Patrick Henry himself.

I think anally retentive fact checkers like us are probably the first to go in any kind of dictatorship...

282 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:37:38pm

re: #275 David IV of Georgia

I think he sat down and thought, "If I were running such and such group, what would I do?" and then wrote a book about it.

Clancy's first book was Hunt for Red October was first printed by the Naval Institute Press. First novel printed by them. He had some bubbleheads help him out. It was such a hit he got a lot of good info on what our side was thinking about re. what the bad guys could be up to.

283 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:37:45pm

re: #259 Geepers

jorline (#234),

The Cobra Event

By Richard Preston.

You may be right...thanks. I don't think it was Clancy.

284 laZardo  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:37:56pm

Probably a drive-by post before I'm dragged kicking and screaming off to church (because it's the only way I can hang around the mall after):

For once AP may be right, especially in regards to my generation. The way they adore Obama these days, I don't think they'll be so easily disillusioned if he messes up while in power. They'll just blame the conservatives.

I'm ready to eulogize rationality any moment now.

285 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:40:32pm

re: #281 Tigger2005

Lifting my beer mug to you!

286 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:40:37pm

re: #284 laZardo

Hey, LaZardo!

Stay FREE, Guy! All the best...

/drive on by :D

287 Josephine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:40:45pm

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

If this country is so bad why do so many people want to come here?

The majority of new Canadians I have spoken to originally wanted to be American citizens but weren't accepted, so they came to Canada instead.

(Sheesh.)

288 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:41:13pm

re: #284 laZardo

Probably a drive-by post before I'm dragged kicking and screaming off to church (because it's the only way I can hang around the mall after):

For once AP may be right, especially in regards to my generation. The way they adore Obama these days, I don't think they'll be so easily disillusioned if he messes up while in power. They'll just blame the conservatives.

I'm ready to eulogize rationality any moment now.

He inherited Bush's mess! It's going to take 40 years to fix and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better (and none of it will be Obama's fault)! Obama can live as long as Mugabe!

289 laZardo  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:42:04pm

re: #286 Karridine

I am free. If I had a price, I'd be a prostitute or a slave. (;

/5 minutes

290 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:42:07pm

re: #284 laZardo

*is wondering how old you are to know what generation you are talking about*

291 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:42:43pm
292 Catttt  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:42:54pm

Well, AP - bulls**t, k?

The quest is never-ending
but you keep on growing
paradise is at hand
you're born in, you're born with
but still searching for it
in your head is the promised land

Converting doubt and hate into love and faith

The quest is never-ending
but you keep on growing
paradise is at hand
you're born in, you're born with
but still searching for it
in your head is the promised land

Promised Land, Samael

293 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:43:12pm

Hey, good evening all y'all - we're getting some very heavy rain and thunder down here now, and if the lighting starts up again I'm gonna bug outta here FAST! LOL!

How is everyone doing tonight - what have I missed?

294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:44:32pm

re: #293 realwest

Hey, good evening all y'all - we're getting some very heavy rain and thunder down here now, and if the lighting starts up again I'm gonna bug outta here FAST! LOL!

How is everyone doing tonight - what have I missed?

Recovering from my 5 year olds birthday party.

295 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:44:55pm

re: #289 laZardo

Eek!

Honest, LaZ, but oogly nonetheless. :(

/best to yah!

296 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:45:24pm

re: #293 realwest

This post got my attention...

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

‘Germ warfare’ fear over African monkeys taken to Iran

297 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:45:35pm

re: #293 realwest

Hey, good evening all y'all - we're getting some very heavy rain and thunder down here now, and if the lighting starts up again I'm gonna bug outta here FAST! LOL!

How is everyone doing tonight - what have I missed?

RW, how are you tonight? Good to see you again.

298 Grok the Fullness  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:45:46pm

I would just like to take this opportunity to say I am very proud aand happy to be a citizen of the United States of America. God bless!

299 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:46:11pm

re: #293 realwest

AP sobs at America's sickness, wrongness, illness and pain. Here, RW, have some PAIN... brought to you by the AP...

300 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:46:49pm

re: #292 Catttt

I think it was C.S. Lewis, or perhaps Chesterton, who wrote about a man who set off from England by boat to find the perfect place to live. In the end he found it—when his boat ran aground on the English coast. Sometimes the really good is here and its useless to look elsewhere for it.

301 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:46:51pm

re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) OY! A Five year old's birthday party? I hope you took 'em all out to ChuckyCheese or someplace like that, as opposed to having the party at your home! How many kids were there?

302 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:47:25pm

I just read that and threw up in my mouth.

303 laZardo  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:47:27pm

re: #288 Tigger2005

Yeah! Mugabe's economy only suffered because those evil crusty white conservatives (not to be confused with whites who supported him but were too scared to speak out) and the conservative media only convinced everyone to withhold aid!

/I can spin that stuff goooood...

re: #290 baxtrice

I turn 21 on the 19th.

304 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:47:43pm

re: #293 realwest

some id/evo,boob thread,forien pron/tech thread....oh and mandy went frog hunting(little guy let one loose in the hoose)

305 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:48:16pm

re: #298 Grok the Fullness

And I'm proud to share water with you my brother.

306 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:48:17pm

re: #293 realwest

Hey Realwest - AP's been pimpin' the need for change - Last threads we saw boobage, talked about porn a bit, then submarines.

How's everything?

307 laZardo  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:48:29pm

Off to Church. See you guise laturr.

/groan and trudge

308 baxtrice  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:48:30pm

Apparently, the AP didn't ask anyone's opinion down here in N. Texas, we're still celebrating with fireworks out here. And of course BBQ.
The AP is probably afraid to ask us Texans because we cling to our guns/religion etc..

309 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:48:48pm

re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Recovering from my 5 year olds birthday party.

Didn't you have a sleep over? Does that go with a hang-over?

310 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:49:01pm

re: #301 realwest

oh,..and .how you doin'?

311 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:49:02pm

re: #306 MacGregor

Hey Realwest - AP's been pimpin' the need for change - Last threads we saw boobage, talked about porn a bit, then submarines.

How's everything?

I missed the boobage & porn. Darn.

312 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:49:07pm

jcm (#282),

My sister gave me a copy of Hunt for Red October she got Clancy to sign on the Iceland page (she was a Lieutenant in the Navy doing ASW at the NAS there at the time) and ask him when he was in Keflavik, he said "never been there." A fine writer indeed.

313 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:49:42pm

re: #291 Ojoe

Here goes yet another day, fading off the San Gabriel Mountains, in shades of blue and white.

Be back tomorrow

God bless America

Beautiful! ! !

But I'm still just a little concerned about all those stars that show up in front of trees, buildings and land mass. They're even more prominent in the nighttime shots.

/

314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:49:49pm

re: #301 realwest

OY! A Five year old's birthday party? I hope you took 'em all out to ChuckyCheese or someplace like that, as opposed to having the party at your home! How many kids were there?

Yeah, it was Chuck E Cheese. 8 Kids. They had a great time. In retrospect though, a tamborine and bongos might not have been the best choice in gifts.

315 Catttt  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:50:20pm

re: #300 David IV of Georgia

I think it was C.S. Lewis, or perhaps Chesterton, who wrote about a man who set off from England by boat to find the perfect place to live. In the end he found it—when his boat ran aground on the English coast. Sometimes the really good is here and its useless to look elsewhere for it.

Right in your own back yard, so to speak. Exactly.

316 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:50:28pm

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
Hey my friend - I can see why that post upset you, but it surely can't come as a surprise that the Iranians would stoop to germ warfare or any other kind of WMD, does it?
I'm still hopeful that Bush will, right after election day, solve the World's problems with Iran before whomever the new POTUS can take office.

317 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:50:59pm

re: #29 VegasRick

This must be the Saturday night puke thread!

The mosque has been built by the Ahmadiya sect; they are not even considered to be muslims by the hardliners in the Sunni and Shia branches.

If all the muslims in the world were as peaceable as the Ahmadis, I don't believe we'd have a problem.

318 asher abrams  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:51:09pm

Everything appears to be falling completely apart and getting way out of hand.

"The country today faces a number of pressing issues, including potential economic collapse, the continued threat of global warming, and the decaying national infrastructure," ISMHIAT chairman Kenneth Branowicz said during a press conference to announce the study's findings. "And we just can't keep it together anymore."

"Furthermore, we just found out that my fucking hot water is being turned off," Branowicz added.

319 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:51:24pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Next year, remember cowbells are unbreakable...

320 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:51:35pm

re: #266 David IV of Georgia

Tom Clancy, re: #252 jorline

I think it was actually Executive Orders by Tom Clancy. I read it while I was home sick in bed from accidentally eating some vile fungus-it was an interactive novel.

From the general flavor it would be Executive Orders. Iraqi Dictator assassinated by a bodyguard who is an Iranian plant, with the Iranian President using the power vacuum to justify an invasion of Iraq to create a United Islamic Republic. The Iranians then attack the US with biowarfare based on monkeys and ebola from Africa as a means to prevent our stopping the UIR from taking over the rest of the Middle East. There is also a home-grown terrorist bombing plot thrown into the mix (Oklahoma City had happened not too long before the publication).

First Debt of Honor with airplanes being used as missiles against buildings, now Executive Orders with Iranians buying monkeys in a biowarfare plot. I'm starting to wish Mr. Clancy had stayed running an insurance agency and not become such a good author.

321 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:51:51pm

re: #316 realwest

Hey my friend - I can see why that post upset you, but it surely can't come as a surprise that the Iranians would stoop to germ warfare or any other kind of WMD, does it?
I'm still hopeful that Bush will, right after election day, solve the World's problems with Iran before whomever the new POTUS can take office.

He should if he finds his testicles again.

BRB...smell burning plastic.

322 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:51:52pm

re: #313 LeePro

The little stars are 'noise' inside the electronics.

You can see them in the dark; daylight overwhelms them.

323 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:51:59pm

re: #311 NJDhockeyfan

I missed the boobage & porn. Darn.


It was pretty much a non-starter grrinding to a halt.

324 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:52:22pm

re: #297 jorline
Hey there, good to see you, too! I'm frankly not feeling too hot - stomach's not feeling right which probably means I ate too many fried onion rings or because I did screw up the timing on my meds!
Crap.
How are you feeling tonight?

325 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:52:27pm

Night all

326 Catttt  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:52:51pm

re: #319 jaunte

Next year, remember cowbells are unbreakable...

My mom used to call me in for dinner with a cowbell. :D Ahhh, memories.

327 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:53:18pm

re: #326 Catttt

You too!

328 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:53:33pm

re: #319 jaunte

Next year, remember cowbells are unbreakable...

Will they stay on the roof when you throw them up there?

329 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:53:50pm

re: #299 Karridine Hey my friend! AP's always been a pain in the butt and other places too! No thanks, YOU go ahead and keep this dose of pain, thankew very much.
AP = Buncha Mutts

330 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:54:06pm

re: #328 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

As I recall, the round Swiss ones will roll off.

331 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:54:22pm

ABBA foursome make rare appearance

/time is a cruel mistress

332 wolfie  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:55:05pm

re: #300 David IV of Georgia

Nice of you to remember that one on this weekend!
How true it is.
(I think that's from Chesterton's Orthodoxy.)

333 kiwiviv  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:55:57pm

Sorry - I haven't been watching...but if all of us go to the link with this story, you can vote on this article with the little yellow stars at the bottom of the page. I want to see their article get voted down!

334 Karridine  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:56:06pm

re: #329 realwest

EGGS Ackley! (AP journalist)

AP can eat all its self-issued pain and poor-me victimization but life is too precious for you and I to waste it 'dwelling on the unpleasant things of life'

Gotta Go...

BBIAW, but you'll be burping onion rings alone afore I gits back! All best, RealWest!

335 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:56:09pm

re: #304 Boondock St. Bender A frog hunt? In her house? Hey, ya know if she and the kid just say quiet, sooner or later they'll hear it and if they find it can "blind" it with a flashlight, grab it and throw it outside!
How long's she been looking?

336 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:56:13pm

OT: My son is watching Finding Nemo again...this is a daily thing...and I can't help but notice that the movie contains a hell of a lot of foreshadowing. Not about anything with politics, just within the movie itself.

My son loves the ocean it seems. His second favorite DVD right now is the BBC's The Blue Planet but only "The Deep" portion of it. Basically, anything with fish or with a lot of trippy animation...if I can get him to continue watching that and the History Channel's "The Universe" he'll be well on his way to earning those damned scholarships.

337 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:56:52pm

re: #333 kiwiviv

which story?assumeing its the ap article.

338 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:57:11pm

re: #261 Tigger2005

re: #273 jorline

Ah well. Not the first time a quote has been falsely attributed.

I do recall an interview, though, with him and Kid Rock talking about how they go over to Iraq to entertain the troops, paying for the trip and equipment out of their own pockets. Kid also called out pansy, hollywood types to put their money where their mouth was and do the same.

339 wolfie  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:57:22pm

re: #322 Ojoe

Ojoe, I am going to have a little bowl.....just a little bowl....of Cheerios.
Do think they will let me put some blueberries on them?
It's only a litttle bowl.

340 kiwiviv  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:57:29pm

re: #337 Boondock St. Bender

which story?assumeing its the ap article.

Yes - this AP quote - go and vote...if you can

341 Kailen  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:57:36pm

re: AP

Doom! Doom! DOOOOOOOOOOOM!


I cannot fathom the masochistic mindset that predominates the left's thinking. I don't have it in me to wake up every morning and say "wow, everything is SO bad right now!"

Whatever happened to their promise to leave the country after 2004?

342 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:57:44pm

re: #306 MacGregor
Hey Mac, everythings sorta ok, but we're having thunderstorms and a lot of rain and occasionally bolts of ligtning in the distance, plus I ate something that didn't agree with me - otherwise everythings just fine! How's by you?

343 jcm  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:58:18pm

re: #336 DeathtotheSwiss

OT: My son is watching Finding Nemo again...this is a daily thing...and I can't help but notice that the movie contains a hell of a lot of foreshadowing. Not about anything with politics, just within the movie itself.

My son loves the ocean it seems. His second favorite DVD right now is the BBC's The Blue Planet but only "The Deep" portion of it. Basically, anything with fish or with a lot of trippy animation...if I can get him to continue watching that and the History Channel's "The Universe" he'll be well on his way to earning those damned scholarships.

My are on 101 Dalmatians right now. What to see the doggies every day.

344 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:58:19pm

re: #324 realwest

Hey there, good to see you, too! I'm frankly not feeling too hot - stomach's not feeling right which probably means I ate too many fried onion rings or because I did screw up the timing on my meds!
Crap.
How are you feeling tonight?

I'm well, thanks. Sorry to hear about the meds. Need to try the onion rings at my restaurant...cut thin, light breading and homemade...they kick-ass. Anyway WB.

345 gman  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:58:39pm

Moonbats are proud to be American whenever we have Democratic Presidents.

I'm always proud to be American.

346 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:58:56pm

re: #336 DeathtotheSwiss

OT: My son is watching Finding Nemo again...this is a daily thing...and I can't help but notice that the movie contains a hell of a lot of foreshadowing. Not about anything with politics, just within the movie itself.

My son loves the ocean it seems. His second favorite DVD right now is the BBC's The Blue Planet but only "The Deep" portion of it. Basically, anything with fish or with a lot of trippy animation...if I can get him to continue watching that and the History Channel's "The Universe" he'll be well on his way to earning those damned scholarships.

Has he seen Deadliest Catch on Discovery Channel yet?

347 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:59:07pm

re: #335 realwest

last i heard it was this afternoon(around 4-4:30)the id thread started when she returned,and she was brooking no o.t.haven't heard any updates.

348 kiwiviv  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:59:19pm

The AP have this VERY HAPPY STORY right after the VERY DEPRESSING STORY in this thread:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

349 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 8:59:47pm

re: #343 jcm

The cartoon classic or the live-action mishap?

350 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:00:40pm

re: #312 Geepers
Hey Geepers, how are you? Clancy's a fine writer - well except for a couple of his books - mostly cause he puts in SOO much research into each one. Sorta like Dean Kooning (sp?).

351 wiffersnapper  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:00:45pm

Shame on the universities for letting these people get journalism degrees.

352 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:01:18pm

re: #342 realwest

onion rings mmmmmm...in the middle of a diet.tuna,and low fat yogurt.
1200 calories a day.getting there,one more week.

353 UncleSam  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:01:30pm

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Robin Williams Peace plan for America.
[Link: www.sodahead.com...]

Holy cow!
That makes total sense.
Best plan I've heard in ages.

354 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:01:52pm

re: #338 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #273 jorline

Ah well. Not the first time a quote has been falsely attributed.

I do recall an interview, though, with him and Kid Rock talking about how they go over to Iraq to entertain the troops, paying for the trip and equipment out of their own pockets. Kid also called out pansy, hollywood types to put their money where their mouth was and do the same.

It's still a great plan, whoever wrote it.

355 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:01:57pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) "a tamborine and bongos"? Good Lord man, what were you thinking?!?! ROFL!

356 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:02:01pm

re: #351 wiffersnapper

Shame on the universities for letting these people get journalism degrees.

The universities create those journalists.

357 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:03:09pm

re: #355 realwest

"a tamborine and bongos"? Good Lord man, what were you thinking?!?! ROFL!

They love them. They've been very enthusiastic with them. ALL DAY LONG.

358 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:03:12pm

re: #346 NJDhockeyfan

You know, I haven't tried it but I imagine there are too many scenes with people talking. He's two, and gets bored easily when there's nothing interesting looking on the television. The Blue Planet's "The Deep" is filled with strange looking creatures and the melodic voice of an old British guy. He'll watch "The Universe" with me sitting right beside him, but he hates it when the scientists are in front of the camera. He digs all the computer animations of planets and stars.

359 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:03:20pm

re: #342 realwest

Things are pretty darned okay. I found out the source of my hip/back pain was antacids!

360 chuba  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:03:57pm

I'm still hopeful that Bush will, right after election day, solve the World's problems with Iran before whomever the new POTUS can take office.

Holding your breath would not be considered a smart action...

361 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:04:31pm

re: #334 Karridine

EGGS Ackley! (AP journalist)

AP can eat all its self-issued pain and poor-me victimization but life is too precious for you and I to waste it 'dwelling on the unpleasant things of life'

Gotta Go...

BBIAW, but you'll be burping onion rings alone afore I gits back! All best, RealWest!

Absolutely!
If life is too short for you to waste it, then it is equally too short for I to waste...

...wait, that doesn't sound right................

~ snicker   %-o

362 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:04:52pm

re: #345 gman

Moonbats are proud to be American whenever we have Democratic Presidents.

I'm always proud to be American.

Same here (+1). On a similar note, those in foreign nations who are predisposed to hate Americans will do so regardless of which political party is in the White House, yet it only becomes an 'newsworthy issue' here when said occupant is a Republican.

363 ContraJihadi  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:05:01pm

re: #22 Sharmuta

Oh, yes. We are so helpless, we need the stage set for a Dear Leader to save us from ourselves!

Puke.

Here's the thing, ap- this nation was built by rugged individualists, and that's in our collective American DNA. If ANYONE is going to "save us" it's going to be us. Take your projectionist, obama stage setting and shove it.

We are the ones we have been waiting for. So let's get to work!

Do something real for a change, AP minions.

364 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:05:03pm

re: #334 Karridine
Thanks my friend - see ya tomorrow!

365 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:06:39pm

re: #362 Slumbering Behemoth

of coarse,although being that republicans have won seven of the last ten elections...makes it easier.

366 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:07:41pm

realwest (#350),

Hey Geepers, how are you?

Well everything sucks, the economy is failing, and this time next year we'll all be 20 feet under water due to global warming but other that that, fine. How are you doing?

367 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:08:39pm

re: #358 DeathtotheSwiss

Funny...when my girls were 2, Finding Nemo was the first movie they liked to watch...over and over and over...

I must have seen that move 100 times. LOL

368 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:08:46pm

re: #345 gman Nah, gotta disagree with you there; moonbats are satisfied if we have a Dem President, but they are never, ever proud to be Americans.
Wish the hell they'd all go find a better country for THEM to live in and move already!

369 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:08:55pm

clinton uses the military,and its a great crusade to help a downtrodden people.bush has the military liberate two nations and it's TYRANNY!

370 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:09:53pm

re: #347 Boondock St. Bender What do you mean Mandy was brooking no "OT"?
I thought this was Charles blog!

371 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:10:01pm

re: #369 Boondock St. Bender

clinton uses the military,and its a great crusade to help a downtrodden people.bush has the military liberate two nations and it's TYRANNY!

Clinton didn't bother with talking to Congress or the UN either.

372 CommonCents  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:10:43pm
"a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement."

The AP article contains this quote. The disparity between this and reality is so vast that the AP writers don't even see it. The welfare state that keeps growing just makes the disparity greater.

1. Quit extending unemployment benefits. There are plenty of jobs if people would get off their rumps.

2. Quit extending welfare to non-citizens. Force the illegal labor market to go back home and salaries for Americans will go back up.

3. Quit taxing those who do work hard so damn much. It is proven daily that, in general, people spend their money better than congress spends their money.

373 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:11:04pm

re: #366 Geepers

realwest (#350),


Well everything sucks, the economy is failing, and this time next year we'll all be 20 feet under water due to global warming but other that that, fine. How are you doing?

Geepers, stop reading the AP wire and listen to this.

374 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:11:16pm

re: #367 NJDhockeyfan

Funny...when my girls were 2, Finding Nemo was the first movie they liked to watch...over and over and over...

I must have seen that move 100 times. LOL

My kids recently discovered my Invader Zim DVDs. I think they've watched them everday for the last week.

375 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:11:20pm

re: #348 kiwiviv WHOA! How the hell did that slip past the editors at AP?

376 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:11:37pm

Obama mulling major speech in front of Berlin's Brandenburg gate; to evoke, Reagan, Kennedy.

A German friend passed along the news Saturday that local sources in Berlin are confirming that the Obama campaign was in contact with city authorities to discuss the possibility of presumptive Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) delivering an outdoor address in front of the Brandenburg gate. The thinking is Obama would follow in the footsteps of two very famous Cold War-era speeches of U.S. presidents speaking in Germany: JFK "Ich bin ein Berliner" and Reagan "tear down this wall."

/oh please

377 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:11:52pm

re: #370 realwest

I imagine she wished to focus on the task at hand(id thread)she wished to not have to answer questions of an amphibian nature.

378 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:12:21pm

re: #371 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

he didn't have to he was a democrat!
/

379 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:12:54pm

re: #352 Boondock St. Bender Hey, good on you! I know you'll make it, too!
Just remember how hard it was to lose those pounds after the diet is over and you can return to a "normal" diet!

380 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:13:19pm

re: #374 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My kids recently discovered my Invader Zim DVDs. I think they've watched them everday for the last week.

Have they seen Veggie Tales? Great videos teaching good morals to kids.

381 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:14:05pm

re: #357 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) And you're surprised, why? Geez, be grateful you didn't get your kid a full drum kit! LOL!

382 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:14:09pm

re: #372 CommonCents

Big up-ding for you! Well said.

383 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:14:40pm

re: #379 realwest
yeah,the appetite/eating habits of a twenty year old don't work with a forty year old body!

384 kiwiviv  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:14:44pm

re: #375 realwest

Exactly! Only anti-American, anti-Bush news seems to get their attention these days.

However - look at the votes at the end of each article - the "Good news" gets the votes - why on earth don't they give us more.

385 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:15:35pm

re: #359 MacGregor
Wha? Antacids can cause hip and back pain? I never knew that!
Any special kind of antacids or just you're regular ole Tums?

386 Irene NYC  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:15:41pm

Hey realwest!

Feeling good tonight? I'm just passing through, but wanted to send a warm HELLO! from NYC.
;)

387 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:15:49pm

re: #372 CommonCents

Oh no, I think they tried to get it right, they just flubbed at making an accurate quote from an obvious source.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

388 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:16:25pm

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

Have they seen Veggie Tales? Great videos teaching good morals to kids.

Think we have a few. The wife keeps track of their viewing more than I do. She's at home with them more than I am. Lots of Discovery Kids and Animal Planet. My youngest loves nature programs, my oldest like machine type shows.

389 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:16:59pm

re: #372 CommonCents


1. Quit extending unemployment benefits. There are plenty of jobs if people would get off their rumps.

Exactly. As soon as I started looking I found a job and was offered a few more. Two other companies want me to interview. All this with just a high school diploma!

390 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:17:06pm

re: #387 Slumbering Behemoth

hey thats marx right?...lets see ...groucho?

391 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:17:19pm

re: #376 Killian Bundy

Obama mulling major speech in front of Berlin's Brandenburg gate; to evoke, Reagan, Kennedy.


/oh please

I'm feeling a little nauseous.

392 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:17:46pm

re: #366 Geepers LOL! Hey I heard only 10 feet of water!
I'm doing ok, just a little under the weather, so to speak!

393 CommonCents  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:18:39pm

Ironically, the Red Eye show on Fox just mentioned that the U.S. leads the world in drug use. That ties in nicely to being generally depressed. Don't you think.

On the other hand, I just returned from a week long vacation in Colorado Springs. Fly fishing in 11-Mile Canyon. If anyone needs a dose of majesty and optimism that's the place.

And watching the lunch parade of the new cadets at the Air Force Academy makes it obvious to me that the whole of the young generation is not lost.

394 gman  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:18:43pm

re: #368 realwest

Nah, gotta disagree with you there; moonbats are satisfied if we have a Dem President, but they are never, ever proud to be Americans.
Wish the hell they'd all go find a better country for THEM to live in and move already!

I was thinking of Michelle Obama's famous "first time I'm really proud of my country" quote.

I can see your point about how they are really never proud of our country. They wouldn't legitimately be proud unless we gave up capitalism for communism, but we aren't going to let that happen.

395 kevinmumaw  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:19:20pm

OT: As more information is revealed on the latest bitch-slap to FARC, it just makes the left look more and more inept. How can one segment of the population be so consistently retarded?

396 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:19:59pm

re: #395 kevinmumaw

How can one segment of the population be so consistently retarded?

Years on training

397 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:20:19pm

re: #391 jorline

I'm feeling a little nauseous.

It gets worse.

/Obama: committed to doing "the Lord's work"

398 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:20:33pm

re: #376 Killian Bundy

That's an odd choice for Obama. I understand the historical circumstances that caused Kennedy and Reagan to make significant speeches there, but what would the event be for Obama except a chance to reveal his (in comparison) empty suit?

399 wolfie  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:20:34pm

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

Have they seen Veggie Tales? Great videos teaching good morals to kids.

My kids LOVED those.
Actually, they still do! (ages 11 thru 17 now)

But beware when yours get a little older (?)and get you presents.
You may end up having to wear a Bob the Tomato tie to work !

400 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:20:43pm

re: #377 Boondock St. Bender Ah, sorry I misunderstood - I thought you meant she didn't want any OT's from the ID thread!
Well I sure wish her luck in catching that frog and releasing it back outside!

401 Irene NYC  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:20:44pm

How to start an LGF lawsuit:

Killian posts nauseating story about Obama giving some speech at the Branderberg Gate.

I feel the need to take an antacid.

The antacid provokes hip pain.

I call realwest and hire him as counsel.

realwest files suit for me in NYC against Killian for causing severe hip pain and mental stress.

OR

KILLIAN CAN JUST STOP POSTING NAUSEATING STORIES ABOUT OBAMA!
;)

402 CommonCents  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:21:17pm

And since I was disconnected from the world for a few days, I'd like to take this moment to thank all the veterans here for letting me celebrate the 232nd anniversary of our country....in English.

403 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:21:26pm

re: #393 CommonCents

I've been drunk in Colorado Springs.

404 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:21:27pm

re: #391 jorline

i can see it now,the press are assembled...citizens of berlin assembled...waiting for the historic remarks...here comes obama
he arranges his papers,leans into the mike
CHANGE!
obama leaves the podium
german crowd stands puzzled"we liked it better when kennedy claimed to be a pastry"

405 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:21:30pm

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

The universities create those journalists.

A lot of universities think we Americans need even more journalists and lawyers...more, more, MORE! Forget about being a PRODUCTIVE member of society, let's have more leeches.

406 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:21:54pm

Maybe I'm naive (or drunk), but I really can't understand anyone who lives here and 'hates' it. All of my problems (and they are many) are pretty much of my own making and when I'm beset with challenges the government is the last place I look for help. All of my efforts have been rewarded in some way and it's only when I don't put forth effort that I'm disappointed. I truly believe that my success or lack of it is dictated by my own action or lack of action. Am I missing something here?

407 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:22:39pm

re: #385 realwest

Wha? Antacids can cause hip and back pain? I never knew that!
Any special kind of antacids or just you're regular ole Tums?

I didn't know it iether. I kept thinking it was other things - the pain got worse until I happened to stop taking rolaids for a few days and my pain ebbed. The next day ate a rolaid and the pain was back. At that point I googled it and found it kills the stuff in your stomache which processes calcium. A doctor had severe bone loss after taking them for years. I haven't had one in a month or two and I feel like a new person.

408 USASupport  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:23:03pm

I don't see too much inaccurate with that statement. Both McCain and Obama suck, and the country will go downhill with the election of either one.

409 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:23:16pm

re: #376 Killian Bundy Hi Killian! Ya know we've all discussed the complete paucity of ability or experience that Obama has - I mean, even if his campaign IS TURNED ON by him, they have to see that too. So now he wants people to compare him to JFK and Ronald Reagan?
I mean, he deosn't even compare to McCain!
I've always had sort of a big ego, but I can't comprehend this guy at all - he must actually believe all his press clippings!

410 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:23:30pm

re: #395 kevinmumaw

Here's a bit more on the policeman who helped pinpoint the FARC camps.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

411 kevinmumaw  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:23:41pm

re: #396 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Years on training

Presumably new idiots are coming into the movement. I mean, how do they consistently attract the dumbest 10% of the population to the movement...year after year after year? Statistics dictate that they should balance out at some point., They must have some secret.

412 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:24:36pm

re: #383 Boondock St. Bender Oh, please, tell me about it! Or rather, don't bother, please! LOL!

413 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:25:32pm

re: #409 realwest

Hi Killian! Ya know we've all discussed the complete paucity of ability or experience that Obama has - I mean, even if his campaign IS TURNED ON by him, they have to see that too. So now he wants people to compare him to JFK and Ronald Reagan?
I mean, he deosn't even compare to McCain!
I've always had sort of a big ego, but I can't comprehend this guy at all - he must actually believe all his press clippings!

Those aren't press clippings, they are the new Scripture revealing the Holy Obamassiah as he starts His mission to spread the New Gospel.

414 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:25:58pm

re: #411 kevinmumaw

Presumably new idiots are coming into the movement. I mean, how do they consistently attract the dumbest 10% of the population to the movement...year after year after year? Statistics dictate that they should balance out at some point., They must have some secret.

They get a fresh pool of applicants every year. They're called college students.

415 CommonCents  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:26:01pm

re: #403 NJDhockeyfan

I've been drunk in Colorado Springs.

I've been drunk many places but those days are over. I'll actually remember this trip.

416 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:26:26pm

re: #398 jaunte

That's an odd choice for Obama. I understand the historical circumstances that caused Kennedy and Reagan to make significant speeches there, but what would the event be for Obama except a chance to reveal his (in comparison) empty suit?

What I don't get is why such a "decision" is even being discussed...
HE ISN'T THE PRESIDENT (yet... if ever!)! ! !

417 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:26:48pm

re: #386 Irene NYC
Hey thanks Irene - and a warm hello back atcha!
I wished I was feeling better, but other than that I'm ok - how's thing in my home town these days?

418 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:27:28pm

re: #416 LeePro

What I don't get is why such a "decision" is even being discussed...
HE ISN'T THE PRESIDENT (yet... if ever!)! ! !

It doesn't matter....he is the Holy Obamassiah.

419 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:27:38pm

re: #416 LeePro

I'm totally with you on that.

420 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:27:40pm

re: #403 NJDhockeyfan

I've been drunk in Colorado Springs.

wow.

you must be so proud.

421 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:27:48pm

re: #409 realwest

I used "paucity" in a sentence last week while speaking to my boss, and he said, "a what?".

422 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:27:57pm

re: #391 jorline
Oh good! Misery always seeks company! LOL!

423 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:28:36pm

Chesterfield lawyer defends the alleged 9/11 planner


Chesterfield County lawyer Prescott L. Prince has a record of representing some of the area's worst criminals in his two-decade legal career in Richmond. But his life's work could be redefined by a single case of historic proportions: defending the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

He's embracing the challenge, not dreading it.

Something disturbing about a lawyer who is looking forward to defending this monster.

424 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:28:53pm

re: #397 Killian Bundy

It gets worse.

/Obama: committed to doing "the Lord's work"

Now I know I'm going to be sick...he's got the spirt now!

In an address filled with religious and patriotic imagery, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president told delegates attending a national conference here of the African Methodist Episcopal Church that his career and his life revolved around his belief that "I won't be fulfilling the Lord's Will unless I'm doing the Lord's work.''

425 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:29:17pm

re: #406 eastvillageinfidel

Maybe I'm naive (or drunk), but I really can't understand anyone who lives here and 'hates' it. All of my problems (and they are many) are pretty much of my own making and when I'm beset with challenges the government is the last place I look for help. All of my efforts have been rewarded in some way and it's only when I don't put forth effort that I'm disappointed. I truly believe that my success or lack of it is dictated by my own action or lack of action. Am I missing something here?

Bull's eye!

426 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:30:12pm

re: #393 CommonCents

Well, since you mentioned drug use in America, I'll throw in one of my favorite quotes:

"A John Wayne movie,” I said. “That’s what you [Europeans] were going to say, wasn’t it? We think war is a John Wayne movie. We think life is a John Wayne movie—with good guys and bad guys, as simple as that. Well, you know something, Mister Limey Poofter? You’re right. And let me tell you who those bad guys are. They’re us. WE BE BAD.

We’re the baddest-assed sons of bitches that ever jogged in Reeboks. We’re three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended from a stock market crash on our mother’s side. You take your Germany, France and Spain, roll them all together and it won’t give us room to park our cars. We’re the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in Cap d’Antibes. And we’ve got an American Express card credit limit higher than your piss-ant metric numbers go.

You say our country’s never been invaded? You’re right, little buddy. Because I’d like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who’d have the guts to try. We drink napalm to get our hearts started in the morning. A rape and a mugging is our way of saying ‘Cheerio.’ Hell can’t hold our sock-hops. We walk taller, talk louder, spit further, fuck longer and buy more things than you know the names of. I’d rather be a junkie in a New York City jail than king, queen and jack of all you Europeans. We eat little countries like this for breakfast and shit them out before lunch". - P.J. O'Rourke

/It ain't due to depression, baby!

427 Racer X  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:30:48pm

It's all Bush's fault right?

428 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:31:44pm

re: #426 Slumbering Behemoth

Metric numbers. Ha! I love that.

429 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:31:46pm

re: #367 NJDhockeyfan

It's better than the Wiggles at least.

430 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:31:55pm

re: #404 Boondock St. Bender

i can see it now,the press are assembled...citizens of berlin assembled...waiting for the historic remarks...here comes obama
he arranges his papers,leans into the mike
CHANGE!
obama leaves the podium
german crowd stands puzzled"we liked it better when kennedy claimed to be a pastry"

LOL...Barry's right out of Hollywood, he's starting to believe his own bullshit.

431 CommonCents  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:32:17pm

re: #424 jorline

And where is the ACLU on this obvious joining of church and state?

432 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:32:32pm

re: #427 Racer X

It's all Bush's fault right?

See my #223.

433 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:33:00pm

re: #429 DeathtotheSwiss

It's better than the Wiggles at least.


Oh yeah. The Wiggles were tolerable. I refused to put on Barney however.

434 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:33:13pm

re: #415 CommonCents

;D
Me, too.
Since 1989.

435 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:33:36pm

re: #395 kevinmumaw
Actually, it almost sounds as if Tom Clancy wrote that!
Woot! And they not only freed the hostages, but nabbed Cesar in the process!

436 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:33:52pm

re: #426 Slumbering Behemoth

gotta love ol'pj

437 Irene NYC  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:34:03pm

realwest,
Hope you start feeling a bit better soon - it must be all the stormy weather. We didn't have the best weather for July 4 but I ain't complaining cuz it ain't 98 degrees in the shade.
;)

438 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:34:04pm

re: #427 Racer X

It's all Bush's fault right?

This is the AP doing the "reporting." It's not like you really have to ask that, you know. ;)

439 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:34:40pm

re: #416 LeePro

What I don't get is why such a "decision" is even being discussed...
HE ISN'T THE PRESIDENT (yet... if ever!)! ! !

He's totally caught-up in the moment...he truly believes a gift to the world.

440 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:35:31pm

Got 40 pounds of gold lying around and need something to do with it?

How about gold plating your Porsche?

441 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:36:06pm

re: #428 jaunte

re: #436 Boondock St. Bender

Since these are not my words, I feel comfortable with nominating this for a rotating title:

Hell can’t hold our sock-hops.

442 MikeySDCA  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:36:16pm
443 kahall  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:36:28pm

Obviously our citizens need some encouragement. What might make it all better? hmmmm....

444 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:36:39pm

re: #405 FurryOldGuyJeans Well as one of the many lawyers on LGF, I must say I resent that remark.
You can find a better system of justice, go for it.

445 LEGION  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:37:27pm

Well the title of the article is lousy and so is most of the article, but they do sneak parts in that are good. Like the stop whining spineless wimps and suck it up, things used to be worse and it will get better, we have the best care, eat great, yadda yadda- they were good. Also the part about human nature to complain. So be adults and buck up. But this one little article is not enough to lift the Boycott. Keep it on- this may just be a slip up. We want consistent truthful news.

446 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:37:56pm

re: #407 MacGregor
Whoa, that's incredible! Didja tell your doctor about this?

447 Promethea  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:38:02pm

re: #183 Roentgen

From the AP story:
"I could cry," she responds when asked how things are.

"We used to have more money than we knew what to do with..."


Don't you want to dry your eyes? If you were to believe this tripe, you'd be so sad because in this great country was someone lucky enough to be recently swimming in cash-money, but, geez who's fault might it be--a few years later it'd been all pissed away. Hope! Change! B-Ho will fix it rock bottom guaranteed that if at some point in time you are firing on all cylinders, it will never go away. We-e-e-e! I can't wait! The AP has figured out that there's a new sheriff in town, and he gonna make life sweet for you, me, and everyone. Must...vote...Obama....must...vote...Oba m-a-a-a-ah.

What I want to know is....will Obama give me a pony? I want a pony.

448 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:38:16pm

re: #440 Geepers

that car wouldn't last 5 minutes on the streets of newark

449 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:38:27pm

re: #397 Killian Bundy

It gets worse.

/Obama: committed to doing "the Lord's work"

I looked for a Flip Wilson, Reverend Leroy clip but couldn't find one...it sounded appropriate.

450 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:38:34pm

re: #441 Slumbering Behemoth

seconded!

451 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:38:44pm

Funny post at Kos...

Well now you've gone and done it

The media has been pushing the meme that you can't trust the black guy for weeks now. Many of you are eating it up like candy, and now you've gone and done it

...So, in other words, the media strategy is working. By labeling Obama a flip/flopper and suggesting he has made a disingenuous move to the right, when neither could be further from the truth, they have sent out the message that you indeed cannot trust the black guy.

Congratulations. You've just given McCain a little shove in the right direction, pun intended. So, to all of you people who have spent the last few weeks tearing Obama apart for doing nothing wrong, I hope you are willing to explain our daughters why they no longer have reproductive rights. I hope you are comfortable with at least another four years of senseless war. I hope you are prepared to take the blame for a half a million unnecessary deaths due to lack of accessable healthcare for 50 million Americans.

I think I'll move to France.

Hahahahahaha!

452 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:40:14pm

re: #421 Sharmuta
ROFLMAO! What did you say (I'm remembering he is your boss!)?!

453 kahall  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:40:26pm

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

Sweet! A rumble.

454 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:40:27pm

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

She probably doesn't mean Marseilles.

455 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:40:50pm

re: #449 jorline

wow,flip wilson...didn't he get sucked into a singularity at the end of the seventies never to be heard from again?

456 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:41:15pm

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

Funny post at Kos...

Well now you've gone and done it

I think I'll move to France.

Hahahahahaha!

They keep saying that. I do not think it means what they think it means

457 Promethea  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:41:39pm

re: #189 BBev

This whole thing has to be put in to prospective. The left is doing everything it can to push America into a depression, to make the whole country beholden to them. I blame the currant oil prices on George Soros and his ilk and the housing situation that only took them 5 years to push into the minds of the public. The left surly knows what they are doing and are doing everything they can to make America look like a shit hole.

I blame George Soros for everything. His nickname is "Dr. Evil," and I hope he wins Charles's 2008 Idiotarian prize.

458 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:41:49pm

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

they say that but they never mean it..teases.

459 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:41:53pm

re: #446 realwest

Whoa, that's incredible! Didja tell your doctor about this?

No but I'll mention it during the next checkup. My dentist was very interested.

460 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:42:21pm

Well, I linked this in spin-offs, but the quote from this guy's interview is just too great and needs to be out here:

"I wish each and every Iranian could travel abroad, come to the U.S. or go to Europe, for just one week, and feel, smell, and breathe freedom, human dignity, and realize the value of their lives."

Ahmed Batebi
Voice of America Interview

From the Gateway Pundit article:

AHMED BATEBI HAS ESCAPED TO THE UNITED STATES--
The brave Iranian student activist who was sentenced to death and who was severely tortured for years in the notorious Evin Prison in Iran has arrived safely in the United States!

During a break from prison, Batebi fled Iran traveling through Iraq and Austria and finally arriving in Washington DC.

Ahmed Batebi is the Iranian student who gained international fame for his appearance on the cover of The Economist magazine holding up a bloodied shirt claiming to belong to a fellow student beaten by the Basij paramilitaries. The photo, which has been called "an icon for Iran's student reform movement," was taken during the Iranian Student Protests in July 1999 in Tehran. Human Rights activist Shirin Ebadi, reports that the shirt belonged to Ezzat Ebrahim-Nejad, a student who was shot and killed reportedly by a plainclothes police or vigilante.

Ahmed Batebi was one of four people who received a death sentence in a closed-door trial by a Revolutionary Court on charges relating to "creating street unrest" and "agitating people to create unrest," and "endangering national security" following the demonstrations. Batebi, in an open letter addressed to the judiciary, wrote that he had been beaten in his "testicles, legs, and abdominal area- -Wiki.

Ahmad Batebi is now in Washington D.C. and had a tv appearance on VOA Persian a few days ago in which he spoke of the horrific torture he endured at the hands of his interrogators for 9 years!

461 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:42:58pm

re: #452 realwest

I told him it was the opposite of a plethora.

462 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:43:07pm

re: #455 Boondock St. Bender

wow,flip wilson...didn't he get sucked into a singularity at the end of the seventies never to be heard from again?

Don't know, but he was damn funny...great entertainment.

463 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:44:05pm

re: #457 Promethea

Your vision.

464 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:44:12pm

re: #459 MacGregor

many times over the counter "remedies"soothe a symptom,masking the underlying problems(or creating other problems )

465 mfarmer1  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:44:35pm

I wish all Americans had to pull up to a tax pump every time they get paid and were forced to stick the nozzle into the government tank and watch their paycheck disappear.

Don't want to sound harsh here, but gas prices and all this crying about it is way overblown in my opinion. The only reason it's such a big story is because people actually have a clue about the cost of gas, unlike the OBSCENE COST of government.

Speaking of gas prices: Did anyone here really cancel a 4th of July weekend trip because of gas prices? Let's say last year you paid $2.50 per gallon and this year it's $4.50. Let's say you drive the family SUV round trip 1000 miles (far more than the average) and only get 15 MPG (less than average). You're really going to cancel a whole trip over $133? I'm not buying it, especially since that amount is probably twice as much in my example. This is just more pile on doom and gloom from the media.

466 yochanan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:44:42pm

re: #63 FurryOldGuyJeans

alan cholms and g. reveria on fox

467 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:44:55pm

re: #462 jorline

yes he was.

468 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:45:16pm

re: #440 Geepers Geez. I gotta tell ya that's the WORST case of conspicuous consuption (and the worst looking Porsche) I've ever seen. Must belong to one of them Russian Mafiosi types we keep hearing about.

469 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:46:08pm

re: #444 realwest

Well as one of the many lawyers on LGF, I must say I resent that remark.
You can find a better system of justice, go for it.

Really.

/without lawyers, they'd still be teaching intelligent design in Pennsylvania

470 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:46:26pm

re: #425 LeePro

Thank you! Personal responsibility has always made sense to me! :)

471 yochanan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:46:41pm

re: #453 kahall

he wants to move to fwrance can we take up a collection as long as he leaves his passport as collateral?

472 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:46:49pm

re: #464 Boondock St. Bender

My underlying problem was bad eating habits, particularly at night. I don't do that any more since I don't eat antacids. Lost some weight too.

473 Bill K.  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:47:08pm

To wash the bad taste of the defeatist AP piece out of your mind try this article from Michael Berliner at ARI.

What we hear is that independence is outdated, that we've reached a new age of "interdependence." Our presidential candidates call for more and more sacrifice--sacrifice to the needy, sacrifice to the nation, sacrifice to the world community, sacrifice to the environment. But this message of sacrifice is the direct opposite of what America stands for, of why America became a beacon of hope for the oppressed throughout the world. They have come here to escape poverty and dictatorship; they have come here to live their own lives, where they can exist by right and not by permission of the government, the community or any collective.

....... Independence was proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence as the rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." What are these rights?

The right to life means that every individual has a right to his own independent life, that your life and property belong to you, not to others to use as they see fit.

The right to liberty means the right to freedom of action, to act on your own judgment, the right not to have a gun pointed at your head, forcing you to obey another’s commands. And the right to the pursuit of happiness means that an individual may properly pursue his own happiness, e.g., his own career, his own friends, and his own hobbies. It means that he does not exist as a mere tool to serve the goals of others. The Founding Fathers did not proclaim a right to the attainment of happiness, knowing that such a policy would carry with it the obligation of others to make one happy and result in the enslavement of all to all. The Declaration of Independence was a declaration against servitude, not just servitude to the Crown but servitude to anyone. (That some signers of the Declaration still owned slaves does not negate the fact that they established the philosophy that doomed slavery.)

Political independence is not a primary. It rests on a more fundamental type of independence: the independence of the human mind. It is the ability of a human being to think for himself and guide his own life that makes political independence possible and necessary. The government as envisaged by the Founding Fathers existed to protect the freedom to think and the freedom to act on one's thinking. If human beings were unable to reason, to think for themselves, there would be no autonomy or independence for a government to protect.

To the Founding Fathers, there was no authority higher than the individual mind, not King George, not God, not society. Reason, wrote Ethan Allen, is "the only oracle of man," and Thomas Jefferson advised us to "fix reason firmly in her seat and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God." That is the meaning of independence: trust in your own judgment, in reason; do not sacrifice your mind to your neighbors, the church, the race, the state, or the nation.

474 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:48:24pm

re: #472 MacGregor

the midnight snack used to give me bad reflux.(really wasn't a snack more like a fourth meal)

475 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:48:24pm

realwest (#468),

Must belong to one of them Russian Mafiosi types we keep hearing about.

That's what I was thinking too.

Boondock St. Bender (#448),

that car wouldn't last 5 minutes on the streets of newark

See above.

476 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:48:42pm

re: #440 Geepers
I'm thinking Russian mafia too.

477 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:48:48pm

re: #472 MacGregor

good job!

478 CommonCents  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:48:51pm

re: #434 LeePro

Congratulations. Only since '98 for me. Now I'm working on the caffeine and cholesterol. It's always something.

479 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:50:03pm

re: #461 Sharmuta
LOL! What was his reply to that one?!

480 LoFlyer  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:50:04pm

Evening all! Good news, found a reason to live last week, don't know how it wll work out, but she is sweet!
The AP truly blows.

481 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:50:11pm

re: #470 eastvillageinfidel

Thank you! Personal responsibility has always made sense to me! :)

Yer welcome!

Ding!

482 Egfrow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:50:27pm

From AP:

And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

Wishful thinking from the elitist Socialist wannabe Eurotrash. They have never had a clue fore over 232 years what that word Independence actually means. We don't need rescue and we don't need you! We are the United States but it does not mean we are dependent. Everything was built and created by Free individuals and free exchange or property. Incoercible by collectivist ideology. The world can never understand what it is to be a Free in the United States of America.

483 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:51:48pm

re: #474 Boondock St. Bender

the midnight snack used to give me bad reflux.(really wasn't a snack more like a fourth meal)

Yes, it really took a change of habit. We always have fruit available for a nighttime snack fix.

484 Geepers  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:51:55pm

Well that book ain't gonna read itself, 'Night all.

485 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:51:56pm

re: #455 Boondock St. Bender

wow,flip wilson...didn't he get sucked into a singularity at the end of the seventies never to be heard from again?

I think Flip went to play football for the Dallas Cowboys.

486 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:52:00pm

re: #447 Promethea

LOL! I want a pony too, dammit.

487 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:52:39pm

re: #480 LoFlyer

good for you.

488 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:53:24pm

re: #480 LoFlyerHey there my friend! I'm glad you met a sweet woman, but sure hope you were joking when you said you'd finally found a reason for living!

489 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:53:39pm

re: #478 CommonCents

Congratulations. Only since '98 for me. Now I'm working on the caffeine and cholesterol. It's always something.

10 years! Congrats!

Will never give up caffeine or red meat! But no smokes for 8 months and 10 days!

490 Dotcoman  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:54:12pm

Some days it just seems like the Liberal Socialist MSM just won't ever be happy unless they can make at least half of America so stinking depressed that they start to behave like the people in M. Night Shyamalan's new movie.

491 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:54:12pm

re: #485 NJDhockeyfan

lol,geraldine might not like that.

492 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:54:19pm

re: #444 realwest

Well as one of the many lawyers on LGF, I must say I resent that remark.
You can find a better system of justice, go for it.

Ah, well, twas not my intent to single you out, or any one person here on lgf, with my remark, nor intended to be a slur upon the profession. It was a bit of sarcasm, pure and simple.

493 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:54:43pm

re: #485 NJDhockeyfan
Well I couldn't gain access to your "Flip" but my memory isn't so bad that I could EVER mistake Flip Wilson for Tony Dorsett!

494 LoFlyer  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:55:47pm

re: #485 NJDhockeyfan

I think Flip went to play football for the Dallas Cowboys.

My understanding is "Flip Wilson" broke off his entertainment career to tend his family. I can't think of a better reason to leave a successful career....

495 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:56:15pm

re: #492 FurryOldGuyJeans

like all trades and professions there are those that do it credit,and those that cause it shame.

496 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:56:35pm

re: #489 LeePro
" no smokes for 8 months and 10 days!"
And to think I used to really, really like you, Lee!
LOL!
;')

497 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:56:42pm

re: #490 Dotcoman

Why that guy has a career after 'Signs' is a mystery.

498 Cartman  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:56:48pm

Speaking of the MSM and liberal negativity, did anyone happen to catch the cover story in USA Today on Friday? Every once in a while I choke and purchase the Multi-colored Fishwrap for the sports section. It was a piece on the celebrations that have been taking place across our country welcoming our troops home from Iraq and 'Stan. The reporters obviously felt compelled to seek out negative quotes from "experts" in what was supposed to be an uplifting story.

Check out this one:

Diane Mazur, a University of Florida law professor and former Air Force officer, goes further: "What motivates these ostentatious displays is the unspoken, almost unconscious guilt over the way military service works now. A narrow slice of Americans serve again and again. It's as if we're saying, 'We will engage in these very public displays of worship, provided you don't ask us to serve.' "

WTF? Is that how most American's feel? We're thanking our brave men and women who serve out of a sense of guilt? I call bullshit! This really pisses me off. And that garbage coming from someone who served! I don't know about you guys, but I contribute to our troops, and show up when I can to welcome them home because I love them, and I am thanking them out of gratitude, not fuc*ing guilt! What a pile of steaming liberal crap. I'm still pissed.

499 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:57:17pm

re: #494 LoFlyer

I wish him all the happiness.he brought light and smiles to millions.

500 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:58:26pm

re: #493 realwest

Well I couldn't gain access to your "Flip" but my memory isn't so bad that I could EVER mistake Flip Wilson for Tony Dorsett!

Try this link. I always thought they looked alike even from TD's first season.

501 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:58:53pm

re: #479 realwest

He seemed to know that word, so the vocabulary lesson was done. ;)

502 realwest  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:59:05pm

Well all y'all it's been grand, upset stomach and all, but I gotta try to get some sleep tonight!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.


Goodnight, all.

503 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:59:37pm

re: #502 realwest

Goodnight realwest.

504 LeePro  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:59:39pm

re: #496 realwest

" no smokes for 8 months and 10 days!"
And to think I used to really, really like you, Lee!
LOL!
;')

To each his own.

Emphysema hurts.

505 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 9:59:57pm

re: #498 Cartman

some folks miss the forest for the trees.sounds like the person they spoke to is a little bitter.

506 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:00:47pm

re: #502 realwest

Night RW.

507 LoFlyer  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:01:27pm

re: #488 realwest

Hey there my friend! I'm glad you met a sweet woman, but sure hope you were joking when you said you'd finally found a reason for living!


Unfortunately not. I am not kidding, without love, I find no reason to live. It's been a tough a last couple of years... Life is getting better, and I thank all LGF'ers for there support!

508 jaunte  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:01:34pm

re: #501 Sharmuta

My business partner has a personal vocabulary of invented words that sound real, but aren't. No one can tell him different.

509 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:01:34pm

re: #493 realwest

Well I couldn't gain access to your "Flip" but my memory isn't so bad that I could EVER mistake Flip Wilson for Tony Dorsett!

Or Bob "The Bullet" Hayes.

510 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:01:34pm

re: #502 realwest

goodnite bud,talk to ya' realsoon!

511 Egfrow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:02:11pm

The News Media is trying to trick us into thinking that we need the rest of the world and that are just being naive and too proud to ask us to depend on them. They want us to cry out in weakness and say,

oh dear lord, please help us all, we are so helpless, can someone please save us! The rich Capitalist pigs are robbing us by raising prices and restricting supply to increase demand. It has nothing to do with Government inteference in global and domestic commerce, We need the government to protect us from these robber barons!

So we can reject Jesus and Personal freedom and let the protection of the Government embrace us into it's worm bosom to suckle on it's generous teet. It will take care of us all and protect us from these Innovators, and producers of life giving goods, so they can be punished for their audacity to charge money for their efforts.

512 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:02:14pm

new thread>

513 jorline  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:04:35pm

Time for bed...good night all!

514 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:04:38pm

G'nite real.

515 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:05:43pm

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

From your linkage:

The media has been pushing the meme that you can't trust the black guy for weeks now.

So Stormfront is now "teh media"? Color me surprised.

Congratulations. You've just given McCain a little shove in the right direction, pun intended.

Obviously, this person is not a fan of Maddox [NSFW humor].

I hope you are willing to explain our daughters why they no longer have reproductive rights. I hope you are comfortable with at least another four years of senseless war. I hope you are prepared to take the blame for a half a million unnecessary deaths due to lack of accessable healthcare for 50 million Americans.

Canard. Canard. Canard.

I think I'll move to France.

Please do. And when you find yourself on a street corner, begging for money with a card-board sign stenciled with the words "Will work for plane ticket to America", be sure not to lose that opportunity to upgrade your sense of irony when your vaunted, progressive-liberal French citizens deride you and ignore your pleas for help much like the neo-con knuckle-draggers you presume to shadowbox.

516 cantrecant  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:06:38pm

AP: Quit projecting your neuroses on the rest of us.

517 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:06:50pm

And congrats to you LeePro for kickin' the ciggs. I'm going to try to quit again soon.

518 Cartman  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:06:57pm

I just knew the whole time I was composing my last comment that a new thread would magically appear soon after I clicked "post". Cartman's Law. Happens every time.

Paranoid? Who, me?

heh

519 MacGregor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:08:36pm

re: #518 Cartman

I just knew the whole time I was composing my last comment that a new thread would magically appear soon after I clicked "post". Cartman's Law. Happens every time.

Paranoid? Who, me?

heh

Hah, that happens to me almost every morning!

520 Egfrow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:09:00pm

re: #518 Cartman

Vote for Obama, He guarantees a thread for every Nick.

521 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:09:25pm

AP is just jealous because America kicked its ass in high school.

522 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:10:29pm

re: #495 Boondock St. Bender

like all trades and professions there are those that do it credit,and those that cause it shame.

So true.

523 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:10:51pm

re: #376 Killian Bundy

[re: Obama's planned Berlin speech]

He'll have to bring back the Great Seal of Obama if he wants to evoke JFK.

524 Egfrow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:12:36pm

re: #521 Pawn of the Oppressor

I'm fond of believing that American is the unwanted Child of France and England that abused the Child in divorce proceedings and the child moved away from both of them to start a Free life away from dysfunctional narcissistic parents and become 10 times successful than both of them put together.

525 melinwy  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:17:29pm

re: #75 David IV of Georgia

I woke up happy yesterday. What's wrong with me?

you must not be a liberal :-)

526 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:20:17pm

Let's see. I am pessimistic because McCain and Obama are the two best presidential candidates - and the worst of the two, by far, is the favorite of the MSM and useless idiots.
I am pessimistic because there is a chance Obama could get elected.

Oh wait, I'm supposed to be pessimistic because of Bush.
Well, I'm pessimistic he and Rice will make Israel give up more land for terrorism.

527 Egfrow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:21:41pm

re: #526 Kosh's Shadow


I'm pessimistic he and Rice will make Israel give up more land for terrorism.

If Israel has it's own national interests at heart then there should be nothing anyone can make them do.

528 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:27:18pm

re: #527 Egfrow

If Israel has it's own national interests at heart then there should be nothing anyone can make them do.

Unfortunately, they have Olmerde as prime minister.

529 justadot  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:31:04pm

re: #498 Cartman

Diane Mazur

She's got an agenda.

530 docremulac  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:32:45pm

In psychology I believe it's called "projection".

These are miserable people who see nothing but misery. They're also so blind they don't even bother to notice what they're saying. High gas prices are because of Republicans? They're the one who decided years ago that gas should come only from the middle east and only be used by the elite (them) while the rest of the working class prols took their wonderful public transportation. And never mind that the biggest waste of fuel in the world is those massive buses and trolley cars in my area that nobody rides.

They're the ones who decided somehow wildlife would be hurt by drilling rigs in the Arctic. They don't even bother telling what's going to happen to the elk up there. Bad vibes from the drilling rigs will knock their chakras out of alignment? Polar bears will get the heebie jeebies?

They're also the ones who can afford to live on the coast who don't want their postcard views corrupted by oil rigs.

Then the Republicans are supposed to crap a miracle and make gas cheap?

These people really are morons.

531 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:34:35pm

re: #530 docremulac

They're also the people who want "renewable energy" but fight wind farms.

532 USASupport  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:42:49pm

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

I hope that idiot is prepared for more war and less abortion under Obama too. I'd love to be in some of these people's fantasy utopias. Well actually maybe I wouldn't.

533 rorschach  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:44:45pm

I'll tell you what I'm P.O.ed about.

I'm pissed-frickin'-off that ninety percent of our elected representatives are in it for their own personal aggrandizement.

They've sold out. They've sold us out. Bastards.

534 docremulac  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:47:13pm

re: #531 Kosh's Shadow

Well what they'd really like is all the un-enlightened classes wiped off the face of the earth so they could enjoy it themselves.

I've noticed that the thing the self appointed elites hate more than anything is people who they consider below them enjoying life. They get to fly private jets but if somebody of a lower class dares to drive an SUV it's "raping the planet". They then proceed to try to keep the lower classed down by having a welfare/nanny state for the poor and stifling taxes to keep the middle class in their place. Just look how the tax tables hit you the hardest just when you start to move into the upper class from the middle class. Talk about an iron ceiling you've got to break through.

Rich liberals will go to any length to keep as many people poor as possible just out of pure meanness.

535 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jul 5, 2008 10:51:22pm

re: #534 docremulac

You gave a great description of Al Gore.

Goodnight, lizards.

536 profitsbeard  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 12:05:36am

Those too stubborn to be properly unhappy must be given the caustic political enema known as Obama.

He will ride up your hindparts to the resecue and deliver forcible salvation.

Whether you need it or not.

537 Modgi  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:41:01am

grrrr,. what country do those ingrates live in?

538 NR Pax  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:32:41am

Oh. I was supposed to wait for someone to rescue me? Oops. Sorry; I went ahead and took care of myself already. I blame it on a bad childhood and having a set of parents that taught me to be self reliant and independent.

539 NoSubmission  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:38:54am

Sounds like Obama wrote this article.

540 macbrooks  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:40:19am

"And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue."

HA HA HA HA HA!

Thanks for the laugh, Charles! Sorry, AP, but we're Americans: we do the rescuing!

mac :]

541 Muadib  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:35:45am

Note to the AP. You idiot scum sucking bastards do not speak for me.

I am free. I know that the United States of America is the greatest place on earth.

542 uptight  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:40:02am

And now we know what happened to Lord Haw Haw

Germany Calling!
Germany Calling!
Here is "Views on the News" by William Joyce

The nation’s psyche is battered and bruised, the sense of pessimism palpable. Young or old, Republican or Democrat, economically stable or struggling, Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

543 bayoubarrister  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 6:03:54am

LOOK! up in the sky........ It's Obabaman!

544 pingjockey  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 6:20:07am

AP is a bunch of whining twits! Not to mention asshats, anti-American idiots and in general just full of shit!

545 bill-tb  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 6:29:00am

Only Communism can save America -- Elect Comrade Obama.

546 avspatti  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 6:57:50am

I apologize for not having time to read through this thread at the moment, but I must comment on the AP headline. I have been visiting my cousin in Oxford, Georgia where this small town has had the most patriotic weekend I have ever experienced. I loved it! Everything was held at "Old Church" founded in the 1800s. There was a potluck with tons of Southern food accompanied by some live country music, a 'flag retirement' ceremony led by the boy scouts where old flags, a rousing musical presentation of patriotic music by a family with 10 children, a great parade including political candidates for sheriff etc. and wonderful Southern hospitality. The prevailing sentiment was gratitude for our country and the people who have given us our freedom. There was NO whining about what is wrong here but an attitude of determination not to lose what we have in this great country. After the musical presentation, all veteran were called upon to stand according to their branch of service. The applause was long and heartfelt! I am writing all this to show that Americans are NOT focused on the negatives. I do imagine that this type of celebration was happening all over America, especially in small towns. Let us not despair!

547 Ojoe  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:25:38am

re: #339 wolfie

Are you still here?

Eat a frikkin BIG bowl! With strawberries & Cream!

LOL

548 hl mencken  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:28:58am

I'm wondering, what color is the sky in the America you reside in, you self loathing asses? These clowns at the AP must be living in an alternative universe......

549 hl mencken  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:30:59am

I think the AP is also running an article simultaneously saying how blissfully happy the folks in Zimbabwe are with life in their country!

550 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:36:10am

The problem with so many people on the left side of the spectrum is that they set their expectations too high - not only their expectations of themselves, but their expectations of others, and of society - and so they live in a state of constant disappointment as nothing ever meets their high standards.

I keep my expectations low and often find myself pleasantly surprised as people regularly exceed my low expectations.

It's one of the keys to happiness I think.

551 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:46:22am
The nation’s psyche is battered and bruised, the sense of pessimism palpable. Young or old, Republican or Democrat, economically stable or struggling, Americans are questioning where they are and where they are going. And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue.

Sounds like a depressed Hillary Clinton supporter.

552 madeindetroit  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:49:39am

This is one of my pet peeves. Exactly who do these whiners think is responsible for their happiness? Would it be the government? My tax dollars? Their mommy? Please. Each of us is responsible for our own happiness and in truth, no one else is capable of making us happy. So wouldn't it be more efficient (assuming the goal is to actually be happy) to get off of their lazy liberal a**es and accomplish something (anything) that would move themselves, their families, their community, the world, forward; instead of constantly whining about how horrible their life is and waiting for someone else to save them? Or is it, perhaps, just me?

553 Shr_Nfr  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:53:46am

re: #251 Roentgen

They probably tried, but there was not a country in the world that would take them. Its sort of toxic waste and all.

554 kansas  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 8:04:25am

The tone of the AP will change if Obama is elected. Doom and gloom will become happy talk.

555 bellamags  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:07:44am

ummmm. I know this thread is from yesterday, but I need to comment. I have never seen so many fireworks, BBQ's, partys etc. I said to my friends, "it seems like this year there are more than ever." They agreed with me.

The AP story is just another attempt at gentle persuasion. You read something or hear it enough and it becomes true. Our duty as the bearers of truth is to bring up the positive and true facts to others and maybe they will see the light.

556 Ziggy  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:17:17am

F@*% the AP. That's they way they WANT us to see America.

557 Aylios  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:23:04am

re: #26 PrairieWind

"And they wonder who or what might ride to their rescue."

I just bet they have someone in mind ... and maybe even a "what".

I have only one question, though. Where do they take these polls?
Downtown Berkeley?

OK, two questions. People actually pay crAP for this so-called "news"?

You know, we all went into the wrong business. We should be
punching out liberal and pinko "news" -- I bet we all said "naw,
you have to report facts." How were we to know you could just
make it all up? I could do entire crAP "page one" dross in my
sleep.

"Drug Use Blamed on Conservative Politics"
"Suicide Rates Go Up Under Bush"
"Science Reveals Socialism Is Best"

... I could go on but I charge $25 a word.

Nice, that post deserves a '+' just for coining 'crAP'. It fits, it's good!

558 twh  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:37:42pm

Should have stayed with the boycott.

559 Rodent  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:40:41pm

Crapweasels.

All AP is crapweasels. (yeah, I know, grammercide.)

They live and spew in the only country on the planet that would let them produce, day in and day out, such vile filth, such blatant propaganda targeted at destroying the only country on the planet that would let them produce, day in and day out...

560 blue_like_jazz  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 8:42:16pm

hey, AP--

F U !

561 lanmaster  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:55:15pm

The douchebags over at AP don't understand that Americans resue ourselves and each other.
We don't need Socialists or Fascists or the bloated government to rescue us from a little bump in the road.

The sky is NOT falling.

562 lanmaster  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:56:24pm

Ooops the word in the first sentence above should read "rescue"

Color me embarassed, but never color me red.


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