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TdF on the Web

Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:56:09 pm PDT

It can be frustrating to try to keep track of the Tour de France over the web, especially if you’re looking for video feeds. The official Tour committee controls the feeds with a Gallic Iron Hand, because they rake in the dough from licensing deals with European media agencies and they aren’t about to give that up. But with that caveat said, Wired has a good link-filled post on how to Follow The Tour De France Online.

One of the coolest links is this street-level view of the race course at Google Maps.

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1 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 1:56:51pm

Charles, you're just trying to divide the LGF community with these provocative cycling posts!

2 gop_patriot  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 1:59:38pm
But with that caveat said, Wired has a good link-filled post on how to Follow The Tour De France Online.

I saw that link in the sidebar yesterday, but got distracted and forgot to click. LOL

That Google Maps link looks really cool, thanks. :)

3 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 1:59:49pm

If wheels had actually evolved, where is the evidence of transitional wheels?

The first wheel must have been triangular, then later square, then as time went by pentagonal, sexagonal, and so on, as they approached roundness. But there are no transitional wheel fossils! This is PROOF that roundness is irreducibly complex. And that the first wheel must have appeared in perfect form, intelligently designed -- it could not have evolved from earlier forms.

4 sasquatchonsteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:02:22pm

Damn, I was hoping to see Obama there with his flat tire.

5 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:02:48pm
6 Red Sock  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:03:19pm

This is maybe the one and only reason I'm lucky to live in Europe: three weeks of Tour de France live on tv. First, an hour of four live on tv in the afternoon, and later in the evening also a special Tour de France talkshow!

Interesting schedule this time, as there is an early time trial and some early mountains in the Massif Central. So far both stages were great to watch!

7 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:04:50pm

re: #4 sasquatchonsteroids

Damn, I was hoping to see Obama there with his flat tire.


Photoshop, anyone?

8 Charles  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:04:54pm

I need to clarify my position -- you can be interested in the Tour de France and still be a fan of NBA basketball. A lot of people try to say that you can't possibly be a cycling fan and also be into hoops, but it is absolutely not true.

9 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:05:13pm

These Tour de France posts make us pedestrians feel like outsiders on LGF.

I'm not saying that bicyclists -- and those who believe in cycling -- are the cause of the Holocaust, only that German Panzer tanks used wheels too, just as bicycles used wheels, and that without the influence of bicycles it's quite obvious that Nazism could never have been as successful as it became.

Charles, why stir up this acrimony between morally bankrupt wheel-ists and us pedestrians? We should instead focus on issues we agree on, such as fluffy bunnies.

10 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:05:37pm

This is not the Tour de France I knew.

11 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:06:00pm

re: #3 zombie

If wheels had actually evolved, where is the evidence of transitional wheels?

The first wheel must have been triangular, then later square, then as time went by pentagonal, sexagonal, and so on, as they approached roundness. But there are no transitional wheel fossils! This is PROOF that roundness is irreducibly complex. And that the first wheel must have appeared in perfect form, intelligently designed -- it could not have evolved from earlier forms.

Squares?

12 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:06:40pm

re: #8 Charles

I need to clarify my position -- you can be interested in the Tour de France and still be a fan of NBA basketball. A lot of people try to say that you can't possibly be a cycling fan and also be into hoops, but it is absolutely not true.


Blasphemy!

13 mojo jojo  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:07:47pm

If you want to watch the next live drug bust, this is a link that could prove helpful.

[Link: channelsurfing.net...]

14 HelloDare  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:09:23pm

re: #3 zombie

If wheels had actually evolved, where is the evidence of transitional wheels?

The first wheel must have been triangular, then later square, then as time went by pentagonal, sexagonal, and so on, as they approached roundness. But there are no transitional wheel fossils! This is PROOF that roundness is irreducibly complex. And that the first wheel must have appeared in perfect form, intelligently designed -- it could not have evolved from earlier forms.

Intelligent design shot down again.

15 Charles  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:09:46pm

Here's proof of the connection between cycling and the Third Reich:

[Link: www.usmbooks.com...]

16 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:09:51pm

TOUR DE FARCE

17 mich-again  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:10:03pm

Heres a nice Indymedia photo of a protest moonbat on a bicycle who hooked up a child carrier to tow a loudspeaker. Dude, go easy on the turns. Its not hard to roll one of those things. Trust me.

18 RetiredUSAF  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:10:14pm

I have found myself watching Vs this year finally going back to watch the tour. Here’s hoping this year we will have a clean one without any doping allegations. It just might get me back on the bike this year despite all the road work going on in our local area. Besides my bike is making me feel guilty because it has been so neglect with all the interesting weather we have been having in our part of the country until a few weeks ago. Now if only the fascist headwinds would start to lighten up.

19 HelloDare  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:11:05pm

re: #8 Charles

I need to clarify my position -- you can be interested in the Tour de France and still be a fan of NBA basketball. A lot of people try to say that you can't possibly be a cycling fan and also be into hoops, but it is absolutely not true.

I had a similar theory about PeeWee Herman and the Three Stooges.

20 gettinby  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:11:17pm

re: #9 zombie

We should instead focus on issues we agree on, such as fluffy bunnies.

I don't particularly like fluffy bunnies.

/now what?

21 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:11:59pm

Is there any troother to the rumor that Americans will have to do it blind folded with sq. wheels?

22 Stinky Beaumont  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:12:21pm

Fluffy bunnies stink.

23 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:12:30pm

re: #20 gettinby You are not using the right marinade.

24 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:13:04pm

defeated american POSTAL TEAM will end up in the dubai whore house as one of the 72 virgins?

25 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:13:39pm

Hey, let me preface this post with the fact that I'm a naturally curious person and I'm...just asking questions but, watching the last few so-called Feats of France...don't all those bikes look a little like CGI?

I'm not saying that these things are stages events filmed in front of blue-screens, but, gee...when was the last time the "Tour de France" came to Texas? Hmmm? Huh?

Very curious.

26 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:13:58pm

Proof of Intelligent Design!

Another test is the bicycle. In the lecture, Luskin showed that a functional bicycle must include two wheels, a form to power the bicycle (the chain and pedals), handle bars to steer and a frame that holds everything together. [Link: media.www.arbiteronline.com...]
27 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:14:16pm

I just scrolled the the Paris leg, very cool.

28 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:14:34pm

re: #15 Charles

Here's proof of the connection between cycling and the Third Reich:

[Link: www.usmbooks.com...]

That cuts it. Definitive proof that NAZIS USED BICYCLES.

What more evidence do you need?

29 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:15:18pm

re: #8 Charles

I need to clarify my position -- you can be interested in the Tour de France and still be a fan of NBA basketball. A lot of people try to say that you can't possibly be a cycling fan and also be into hoops, but it is absolutely not true.

They're both sports, who would say that ?
If you're into sports, which I am, I can't imagine thinking you couldn't like both. I can watch damn near anything sports related, athletes are athletes to me. Watch MotoGP or AMA racing at night sometimes on Speed, after watching The Golf Channel for a while.
Hell, I'd combine them if I could. Hit your golf ball, powerslide down the golf cart with the Ducati until you get there, first one to the clubhouse with the lowest score wins.

30 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:15:52pm

re: #28 zombie

That cuts it. Definitive proof that NAZIS USED BICYCLES.

What more evidence do you need?

ZIONIST PROPAGANDA! I call hoax!

31 Opilio  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:17:00pm

re: #3 zombie

If wheels had actually evolved, where is the evidence of transitional wheels?

The first wheel must have been triangular, then later square, then as time went by pentagonal, sexagonal, and so on, as they approached roundness. ...

In specific environments, the square wheel is actually an optimal shape.

32 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:17:01pm

re: #17 mich-again

critical mass sounds like something you would find at a hog farm or hippie bike thugs

what happens if these idiots keep someone from getting were they really have to go like a hospital narcissistic momzars.

33 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:17:11pm

Meanwhile, back at the ranch . . .

Uranium Stockpile Removed From Iraq in Secret U.S. Mission

The removal of 550 metric tonsof "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

What is now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles (19 kilometers) south of Baghdad — using teams that include Iraqi experts recently trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.

/how much do you think Joe Wilson and his desk jockey CIA wife can eat?

34 HelloDare  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:17:13pm
35 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:17:33pm

re: #26 EC Marm

Proof of Intelligent Design!

Interesting! Here's the full quote, in context:

Is intelligent design testable? Luskin went on later to compare ID to a bacterial flagellar motor which is similar to a rotary engine as used in Mazda RX7s.

This model is proven to be irreducibly complex which means that if someone were to take away any major part, the engine would not work properly or at all. This test proved intelligent design.

Another test is the bicycle. In the lecture, Luskin showed that a functional bicycle must include two wheels, a form to power the bicycle (the chain and pedals), handle bars to steer and a frame that holds everything together.

Notice that he did not include that the bike needs a seat to function; the seat provides an added luxury which does not affect the functioning of the bicycle itself.

One does not need a seat to ride a bike. “If you don’t have those core parts, you won’t have a functioning system… If you knocked out one of those parts, the bike would stop working,” said Luskin. The conclusion: because of the bike’s irreducible complexity, it was made by intelligent design.

Now to relate to the human body instead of a motor or a bicycle, most people should know that without a heart, lungs or a stomach the body would not survive, making the body complex and hence created by an intelligent design.

Sheer genius!

36 gettinby  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:18:38pm

re: #23 swamprat

You are not using the right marinade.

We'll never see eye to eye.

37 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:20:06pm

re: #35 zombie

Sheer genius!

Maybe if you weren't such a shill for the Cyclionist Movement you'd be able to understand such plain and simple English.

38 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:21:09pm

re: #28 zombie

Since Hitler himself was a bicycle courier in WW I,
cycling was clearly a preferred way to honor der Fuhrer !


QED

39 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:21:18pm

how many times have you seen someone riding the wrong way on a street, or thinking that stop signs don't apply to bikes or on crowded side walks>? rant over a couple of weeks ago i got hit by a college girl riding her bike on a crowded side walk she acted like it was my fault.

40 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:22:17pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

I just scrolled the the Paris leg, very cool.


Now that's kinky. Although I must confess I downloaded her movie with that rocker dude.

41 Racer X  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:23:18pm

It does not make sense to teach cycling and basketball at the same time.

42 Racer X  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:24:26pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

I just scrolled the the Paris leg, very cool.

*passes KT disinfectant.

43 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:24:30pm
44 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:24:44pm

re: #41 Racer X

It does not make sense to teach cycling and basketball at the same time.

Then we must teach the controversy!

45 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:25:13pm

re: #3 zombie

If wheels had actually evolved, where is the evidence of transitional wheels?

The first wheel must have been triangular, then later square, then as time went by pentagonal, sexagonal, and so on, as they approached roundness. But there are no transitional wheel fossils! This is PROOF that roundness is irreducibly complex. And that the first wheel must have appeared in perfect form, intelligently designed -- it could not have evolved from earlier forms.

Wheels within wheels. The Evolution of the Tour may be a debate in the tradition of the great Latke-Hamentashen Debate.

46 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:25:26pm
47 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:26:18pm

Ms. Almira Gultch also used a biycycle and she seemed pretty damned wicked herself. I don't know whether I have a point or not though.

48 Racer X  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:26:52pm

re: #44 zombie

Then we must teach the controversy!

If we teach that controversy, what about soccer? Don't even get me started on badminton.

49 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:26:54pm

More proof:

The intelligent design of this bike makes it extremely practical, particularly because of its collapsing central bottom bracket. [Link: www.gizmag.com...]
50 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:27:34pm

re: #48 Racer X

If we teach that controversy, what about soccer? Don't even get me started on badminton.

There is no controversy with soccer. It is self-evident.

51 gettinby  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:28:06pm

re: #33 Killian Bundy

In case they don't want to munch on the humble pie, here's an eating-crow-gotcha.

52 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:31:01pm

re: #46 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ouch!

53 Catttt  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:31:56pm

The Google streetview vid is cool. I love streetview, I confess.

54 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:33:16pm

[Link: wecansolveit.org...]

DO WE HAVE TO SUPPORT LGF ADS?

55 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:37:16pm

re: #46 SasquatchOnSteroids

56 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:37:59pm

re: #9 zombie

These Tour de France posts make us pedestrians feel like outsiders on LGF.

I'm not saying that bicyclists -- and those who believe in cycling -- are the cause of the Holocaust, only that German Panzer tanks used wheels too, just as bicycles used wheels, and that without the influence of bicycles it's quite obvious that Nazism could never have been as successful as it became.

Charles, why stir up this acrimony between morally bankrupt wheel-ists and us pedestrians? We should instead focus on issues we agree on, such as fluffy bunnies.

Thank you so much, Zombie. Someone must tell him and very few are brave enough to stand up to this horror.

57 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:38:30pm

re: #51 gettinby

CROW TASTES BETTER COLD

58 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:39:33pm

re: #57 yochanan
You, also, are not using the right marinade.

59 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:39:55pm

re: #51 gettinby

In case they don't want to munch on the humble pie, here's an eating-crow-gotcha.

WOULD CROW TASTE GOOD WITH A SIDE ORDER OF 'YELLOW CAKE'?

60 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:41:07pm

Tight butts drive me nuts.

61 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:41:07pm

re: #22 Stinky Beaumont

Fluffy bunnies stink.

Stinky is not going to take it anymore.

62 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:42:35pm

re: #61 debutaunt

DON'T EAT RAISIN YOU FIND NEXT TO YELLOW SNOW.

63 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:42:55pm

re: #28 zombie

That cuts it. Definitive proof that NAZIS USED BICYCLES.

What more evidence do you need?

In the Great Escape, they used bicycles AND motorcycles. I guess that messes up your anti-religious theory!

64 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:43:03pm

re: #48 Racer X

If we teach that controversy, what about soccer? Don't even get me started on badminton.

And what about the ULTIMATE SPORT:

CHESSBOXING!

Chessboxing World Championship 2008 in Berlin

four minutes of chess are interspersed with three minutes of violent pugilistic activities. We bring you photos and videos...

The fight was between Marc Breuer from Cologne, 35 years old, 81 kg (178,6 pounds), with an Elo rating of 1972 and Sascha Wandkowski, 28 years old and 79 kg (174,2 pounds), with an Elo rating of 1850. During the chess the contestants wear headphones to shield them from the din of the audience and the commentary by a strong chess player.
...
The boxing part – four minutes of chess are interspersed with three minutes of boxing
...
If you think this is all a show take a look at Marc Breuer's left eye...
...
... and his position in the game

It manages to be both highly intellectual and intensely brutal -- at the same time!

65 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:43:48pm

re: #31 Opilio

In specific environments, the square wheel is actually an optimal shape.

Perfect for inside a doghouse.

66 gettinby  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:44:36pm

re: #57 yochanan

CROW TASTES BETTER COLD

Can't say that I've ever tasted crow.

/humble pie has, however, been served to me quite often.

67 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:45:36pm

WILL ONLY WATCH SCOCCER IF THE 'APRES RIOTS' COUNT.

68 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:46:17pm

re: #64 zombie

Great idea.

69 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:46:24pm

Chessboxing on ESPN

Very informative three-minute video!

70 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:47:07pm

now what about the finer points OF WOMENS BEACH VOLLEYBALL

71 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:47:30pm

re: #64 zombie

Cheeseboxing? Was this the Nazi plot to control all the cheeses of Europe? The Jarlsberg, the Gouda, the Brie and even (while wearing funny old testament clothes) the power of the Gorgonzola? OIC, never mind.

72 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:49:42pm

re: #60 MandyManners

Tight butts drive me nuts.

I know this is weird, but I look at hands.

73 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:51:34pm

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

I know this is weird, but I look at hands.

I'm gonna' refrain.

74 WhiteRasta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:51:37pm

re: #66 gettinby

MMMMM, Humble pie.

Don't come here and say anything you can't back up with facts.

I have had Humble Pie jammed down my throat on several occasions.

75 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:51:44pm

re: #71 lifeofthemind

WHAT ABOUT THE GREEN SMELLY KIND

76 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:51:47pm

re: #69 zombie

Chessboxing on ESPN

Very informative three-minute video!

That is amazing!
About the only way you could get me to watch some boxing!

77 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:52:32pm

re: #73 MandyManners

I'm gonna' refrain.

You're too good to me. :)

78 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:52:44pm

re: #71 lifeofthemind

AND THEN THERE IS HEAD CHEESE which is not to be confused with toe jam.

79 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:53:06pm

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

I know this is weird, but I look at hands.

Since Mandy is refraining, I will also admit I do too!

80 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:54:31pm

re: #60 MandyManners
Quarters?

81 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:54:31pm

speaking of womens beach volleyball BUT DO YOU REMEMBER THE VICTORY ROLL IN THE SAND AFTER THE WOMANS BEACH VOLLEY BALL MATCH>?

82 WhiteRasta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:55:40pm

re: #78 yochanan

Never mind Head Cheese, check out the Stinking Bishop...

[Link: www.igourmet.com...]

83 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:55:41pm

re: #69 zombie

IIRC you have an unpublished zombietime report on Harun Yahya. Have you ever thought of finishing it?

84 Macker  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:55:57pm

Only you, zombie, could turn the Tour de France into another ID thread.

/snicker

85 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:56:35pm
86 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:56:43pm

FROM the tour de farce to head cheese & toe jam

87 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:57:26pm

It is to laugh!

Kerry says McCain lacks judgment to be president

I'd consider it a blessing to be insulted by John Kerry! The man has no credibility whatsoever.

88 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:58:08pm

re: #77 goddessoftheclassroom

You're too good to me. :)

8-)

89 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:58:20pm

re: #80 EC Marm

Quarters?

Fifty-cent pieces.

90 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:58:59pm

re: #69 zombie

Chessboxing on ESPN

Very informative three-minute video!

Asimo-Deep Blue v. Lewis-Kasparov

Tag team match.

91 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:59:07pm

re: #87 zombie

It is to laugh!

Kerry says McCain lacks judgment to be president

I'd consider it a blessing to be insulted by John Kerry! The man has no credibility whatsoever.

KERRY WOULD NOT NO A REAL HERO IF IT BIT HIM IN THE ASS
i am not even sure if he would know what a sandwich is

92 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 2:59:37pm

re: #87 zombie

It is to laugh!

Kerry says McCain lacks judgment to be president

I'd consider it a blessing to be insulted by John Kerry! The man has no credibility whatsoever.

Darn-near spewed out my sour-cream-and-onion chips.

93 loppyd  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:01:41pm

re: #87 zombie

It is to laugh!

Kerry says McCain lacks judgment to be president

I'd consider it a blessing to be insulted by John Kerry! The man has no credibility whatsoever.

Mmmkay.

Kerry is one bitter dude.

94 zombie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:01:43pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

IIRC you have an unpublished zombietime report on Harun Yahya. Have you ever thought of finishing it?

I just don't have enough time. It will have to stay on the back burner with the 48 other unfinished reports.

95 Perplexed  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:03:33pm

Why not have a class for cyclists who engage in all forms of doping? That might provide a baseline for checking the un-doped riders.

96 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:03:49pm

re: #89 MandyManners

Fifty-cent pieces.


Raising the bar, I see. I can't remember what tv show that originated on. Maybe 'Lilith' on Cheers?

97 Render  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:06:16pm

Almost all of the major military powers prior to and during WW2 used bicycle troops.

Including the US Army.

STOLEN,
R

98 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:08:59pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Transitional wheel fossil...
Two-ton, 500 Million-year-old Fossil Of Stromatolite Discovered In Virginia

WOW !

That's just a stone's throw from where we live, too.
Will have to find out if there's any way to see it before they truck it off to Richmond.
Wow.

99 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:09:02pm

re: #96 EC Marm

Raising the bar, I see. I can't remember what tv show that originated on. Maybe 'Lilith' on Cheers?

I have no idea. I thought I came up with the "tight butts drive me nuts" thingy.

100 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:12:24pm

re: #98 wolfie

Maybe the fat guys will still be there too. It would be a pretty cool thing to see in person. It's just about as old as life gets.

101 wiffersnapper  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:12:44pm

Go USA!

102 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:13:04pm

re: #99 MandyManners
It has something to do with bouncing a quarter off a butt as a test of fitness. If it bounces, it is very good. The mrs. sometimes mutters that when she passes me getting out of the shower. I feel so objectified, but nobody feels my pain.
:~(

103 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:15:49pm

re: #62 yochanan

DON'T EAT RAISIN YOU FIND NEXT TO YELLOW SNOW.

Amazing! I have that particular tattoo!

104 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:16:23pm

re: #102 EC Marm

If it bounces, it is very good.


Keep the change.

105 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:19:19pm

re: #103 debutaunt

Amazing! I have that particular tattoo!

TATTOO?

106 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:20:17pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Keep the change.

IF IT BOUNCES OFF THE HEADLIGHTS THEY ARE FAKE

107 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:20:18pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Maybe the fat guys will still be there too. It would be a pretty cool thing to see in person. It's just about as old as life gets.

If we can't see it here, we'll see it in Richmond for sure!
(I don't know about the fat guys!)

108 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:21:51pm

re: #102 EC Marm

It has something to do with bouncing a quarter off a butt as a test of fitness. If it bounces, it is very good. The mrs. sometimes mutters that when she passes me getting out of the shower. I feel so objectified, but nobody feels my pain.
:~(

If your wife can't objectify you, who can?

109 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:23:15pm

Cameco Corp. says uranium deal kept quiet by U.S. military

A Canadian company that has acquired a massive amount of concentrated natural uranium from Iraq says the U.S military was behind the secrecy surrounding the transaction.

Saskatoon-based Cameco Corp. purchased the reported 550 tonnes of “yellowcake”, the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment, in a deal reported to be in the tens of millions of dollars.

Cameco spokesman Lyle Krahn says the hush-hush nature of the transaction was at the request of the U.S. military, who supervised the transport of the raw material out of the volatile region.

/just in case AP origination is the problem, this story is huge

110 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:25:29pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Cameco Corp. says uranium deal kept quiet by U.S. military

/just in case AP origination is the problem, this story is huge

Glad to see other media picking this story up. You are right - it is HUGE!
Vindication for President Bush. I know it will take time for history to correct the Democrat and media lies, but it's good that the truth is finally coming out.

111 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:28:10pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy
Jockeying around 550 tons between Canada and Iraq and somebody thinks there might be cause for a conspiracy of silence? Of course the MSM has long ago decided that Saddam was a choir boy so they won't have much interest in the fact that he had the raw materials for a nuke or two.

112 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:28:53pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Cameco Corp. says uranium deal kept quiet by U.S. military

/just in case AP origination is the problem, this story is huge

Shhh...please, do not disturb.

Damned military keeping quiet, shame on them.

113 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:33:59pm

re: #111 EC Marm

Jockeying around 550 tons between Canada and Iraq and somebody thinks there might be cause for a conspiracy of silence? Of course the MSM has long ago decided that Saddam was a choir boy so they won't have much interest in the fact that he had the raw materials for a nuke or two.

/if Joe Wilson and his desk jockey CIA wife had a speck of honor in their bones, they'd spontaneously combust

114 EC Marm  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:39:13pm

re: #113 Killian Bundy

/if Joe Wilson and his desk jockey CIA wife had a speck of honor in their bones, they'd spontaneously combust


This had to be known for a while. I guess the logistics of moving this much material around in the middle of the jihadist recruitment drive would have been cause for keeping quiet, but why now? If I was advising McCain, I'd tell him to make mention of it soon. I'd even write the line for him, "Those, like my opponent, who would wish us to depart before the job is done, and leave 550 tons of material that could be fashioned into a number of nuclear devices..."

115 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:39:40pm

re: #112 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Shhh...please, do not disturb.

Damned military keeping quiet, shame on them.

You know, it's not like we're talking a few hundred kilograms.

/it's 550 tons of concentrated uranium!

116 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:40:34pm

So the military thought this should be kept quiet, presumably for security reasons.

If Bush were even 1/4 the POS that Pelosi et al. are, he would have been screaming about this from the rooftops from day one. He has taken constant abuse and ridicule over WMD, and here is his vindication. He wouldn't have cared what the military advised.

But he does care. And no matter how many times I've disagreed w/ his policies, I've come to appreciate his integrity and patriotism more and more.

117 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:40:47pm

re: #110 seekeroftruth

Glad to see other media picking this story up. You are right - it is HUGE!
Vindication for President Bush. I know it will take time for history to correct the Democrat and media lies, but it's good that the truth is finally coming out.


I can't believe that nobody realizes that the release of this story has been carefully timed. None of my leftist acquaintances knew of, or believed me when i told them about this. This is coming out just before the election. Earlier, and it could be discounted nullified and forgotten by now. this is brilliant. We finally get a propaganda break. The left should have been working on this for years, but they probably thought it would go away. I want to go on, about their pandering to dictators, their ignoring human suffering, except where it coincides with their agendas, their cynical quest for power at the expense of the down-trodden abroad, and their own countries interests at home, how they have destroyed the domestic energy industry (hydro electric, nuclear, coal, and domestic oil) thus empowering countries that don't have our best interests at heart...
..ok I'll stop.

118 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:44:21pm

re: #117 swamprat

I completely agree with you. For once maybe the good guys will get a break.

For anyone looking for some good background information on this yellowcake and Joe Wilson - this is a great roundup of all the elements involved:
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

119 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:44:24pm

re: #116 wolfie

So the military thought this should be kept quiet, presumably for security reasons.

If Bush were even 1/4 the POS that Pelosi et al. are, he would have been screaming about this from the rooftops from day one. He has taken constant abuse and ridicule over WMD, and here is his vindication. He wouldn't have cared what the military advised.

But he does care. And no matter how many times I've disagreed w/ his policies, I've come to appreciate his integrity and patriotism more and more.

I agree. I always think of Kipling's poem, "If":

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!"

120 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:48:38pm

re: #115 Killian Bundy

Guess I needed a /

Moving, effectively, 600 tons of that stuff must have been good, clean...uh...practical fun. / ;)

121 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:49:52pm

re: #8 Charles

I need to clarify my position -- you can be interested in the Tour de France and still be a fan of NBA basketball. A lot of people try to say that you can't possibly be a cycling fan and also be into hoops, but it is absolutely not true.

"Charles", if you really are "Charles", has your cover been blown? You are not supposed to mention "basketball":

#116 Jeff B.  5/16/2003 11:00:44 am PDT 

Rick Z, Hans:


Whatever. Just anything but King Crimson's Lizard. "Stake a lizard by the throat" my ASS. Love the group, hate the LP.

And besides, there is only ONE terrible secret of LFG, and finally I have found the COURAGE TO REVEAL IT:

Charles Johnson, Zionist conspirator, murderer of Mohammed al-Doura, butcher of Jenin, and oppressor of Arabs also moonlights under an assumed name as Dallas Mavericks basketball player Steve Nash.

Don't believe me? CHECK THE PHOTOGRAPHS. Why do you never seen them in the same picture together? Why does Charles conspicuously avoid mentioning basketball on this blog, and why has he deleted all references to Steve Nash? (How do I know he has? They're not there anymore, that's how I know)

DON'T LET THE AIDEMYNDI/MAVERICKS CONSPIRACY TRIUMPH! UNMASK CHARLES JOHNSON/"STEVE NASH!"

122 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:50:37pm

re: #8 Charles

I need to clarify my position -- you can be interested in the Tour de France and still be a fan of NBA basketball. A lot of people try to say that you can't possibly be a cycling fan and also be into hoops, but it is absolutely not true.

Go Celtics and Vive Le Tour!

123 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:51:52pm

re: #119 goddessoftheclassroom

An apt moment to bring that poem up!

Strength of character is what matters more than anything.
Above all, the ability to put yourself second...or even last, when you absolutely must.

124 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:54:23pm

re: #6 Red Sock


Interesting schedule this time, as there is an early time trial and some early mountains in the Massif Central. So far both stages were great to watch!

No prologue time trial made yesterday's stage the most exciting opening stage in years. Cadel Evans should be wearing yellow after the Stage 4 time trial although I liked Valverde for the GC before it all started and still do. And the mountains do start early this year. Glad I get to watch those mountains on tv and not try to bike up them (or down them).

And boy will it be nice to see the Yankees drop three out of four to the Sox tonight at the Stadium.

125 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:56:29pm

re: #120 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Guess I needed a /

Moving, effectively, 600 tons of that stuff must have been good, clean...uh...practical fun. / ;)

Iran is geologically blessed with more than their fair share of uranium deposits.

/time to take inventory

126 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 3:58:05pm

re: #29 SasquatchOnSteroids

They're both sports, who would say that ?
If you're into sports, which I am, I can't imagine thinking you couldn't like both. I can watch damn near anything sports related, athletes are athletes to me.

I don't watch a lot of tennis but that final today at Wimbledon was as good as sports gets. Unbelievable class by Federer in defeat and unbelievable humility in victory by Nadal. Truly magnificent.

127 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:01:07pm

I am waiting for the MSM and Pelosi crowd to apologize to Bush.
Should I.....?
a) hold my breath
b) take an hour long bubble bath
c) take a week off to pass the time on the beach
d) take two aspirin and call St Peter when we're all dead

128 Bob in Breckenridge  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:03:30pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Transitional wheel fossil...
Two-ton, 500 Million-year-old Fossil Of Stromatolite Discovered In Virginia

Was that the ancestor to Miller Lite?

129 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:03:40pm
130 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:04:30pm

re: #127 wolfie

I am waiting for the MSM and Pelosi crowd to apologize to Bush.
Should I.....?
a) hold my breath
b) take an hour long bubble bath
c) take a week off to pass the time on the beach
d) take two aspirin and call St Peter when we're all dead

e) wait until hell freezes over ; - )

131 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:04:30pm

re: #87 zombie

It is to laugh!

Kerry says McCain lacks judgment to be president

I'd consider it a blessing to be insulted by John Kerry! The man has no credibility whatsoever.

If Kerry said that I lacked the judgement to do anything it would be on the top of my resume.

132 onslow  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:04:31pm
133 Shug  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:13:07pm

re: #4 sasquatchonsteroids

Damn, I was hoping to see Obama there with his flat tire.

That's the tour de farce

134 Bob in Breckenridge  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:13:16pm

re: #126 freedombilly

I don't watch a lot of tennis but that final today at Wimbledon was as good as sports gets. Unbelievable class by Federer in defeat and unbelievable humility in victory by Nadal. Truly magnificent.

It really was great, billy.

It was 4 hrs and 49 mins. of brilliant athleticism by Federer and Nadal. And the great Bjorn Borg was there sitting in the royal box to see his record get beaten by RF, while the equally great John McEnroe called the match on NBC. McEnroe called it the greatest match ever, better than his great duels with Borg and Jimmy Connors from the late 70's to mid 80's.

135 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:16:32pm

re: #131 freedombilly

can you put a-hole on your resume

136 WhiteRasta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:18:06pm

re: #134 Bob in Breckenridge

I missed it but it's nice to see a great match. I was a great admirer of |McEnroe, the Bad boy of tennis....

137 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:18:33pm

Thank you Charles for these two wonderful links. I will be traveling for the rest of the Tour on business starting on Tuesday and hotels rarely have Versus. This will help me immensely in following my favorite sporting event of the entire year. I have watched feeds traveling as far away as Singapore before and have tried to understand them in French, German, and Spanish. Without much luck.

The google street view is absolutely incredible! What a tool. Thanks again.

138 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:19:54pm

re: #135 yochanan

can you put a-hole on your resume

Me or Kerry?

139 stevieray  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:22:09pm

re: #138 freedombilly

Me or Kerry?

Why would you put "Kerry's an a-hole" on your resume? ;^)

140 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:24:04pm

re: #139 stevieray

Why would you put "Kerry's an a-hole" on your resume? ;^)

That sadly wouldn't win me too many points in my home state of the People's Republic of Massachusetts.

141 Dave659  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:24:21pm

re: #137 freedombilly

Yes, Charles, thanks for the link. What a shame so many people feel compelled to post idiotic, anti-cycling comments here. If they're not interested, there's no need to disparage those of us, including the site owner, who are.

142 swamprat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:25:06pm

re: #139 stevieray

Why would you put "Kerry's an a-hole" on your resume? ;^)


Hell, I put it on my phone bill, my grocery list, the note to the paperboy....

143 Shug  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:27:00pm

Is that cheater Floyd R Turbo or whatever his name is, racing this time?

144 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:27:20pm

re: #142 swamprat

Hell, I put it on my phone bill, my grocery list, the note to the paperboy....

I would love to drag it behind a plane but I don't want Kerry to get after me about my carbon footprint.

145 opnion  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:29:03pm

re: #119 goddessoftheclassroom
Good evening all. Goddess great poem. I had forgotten how Great.

146 Racer X  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:33:06pm

Everyone knows that John Kerry is an a-hole. I think Bush even designated Nov 17th as "Yes, John Kerry is an a-hole" day.

147 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:33:52pm
148 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:35:39pm
149 Bob in Breckenridge  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:36:33pm

re: #143 Shug

Is that cheater Floyd R Turbo or whatever his name is, racing this time?

LOL, I think you mean Floyd Landis, and no he's not. He ran out of appeals for his doping conviction.

150 opnion  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:37:03pm

re: #147 FrogMarch

the snake reappears to spit some venom.

John kerry qualifies under any rational defination as a traitor.
Yet he insults his betters sitting in the Senate & came within Ohio of becoming the President.

151 christheprofessor  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:37:14pm

re: #87 zombie

It is to laugh!

Kerry says McCain lacks judgment to be president

I'd consider it a blessing to be insulted by John Kerry! The man has no credibility whatsoever.

He's got a point. Why get shot down and spend years getting tortured to meet with communist North Vietnamese officials when one can just take a commercial (private?) flight to Paris?

152 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:39:34pm

Chimpymchaliburton strikes again.

Now, before you dull, neocon chickenhawk dupes (whose gullibility encouraged smarter and more discriminating Dem congresspeople to set aside their concerns and their principles and vote us overwhelmingly into a fake war based on the lying lies of lying liars who lied) get to feeling all vindicatey, please note that yellowcake itself — even 550 metric tons of the stuff — is not, without further enrichment, capable of causing anything more than a panic. And Saddam was far too busy writing romance novels and terrorizing Kurds and Marsh Arabs to even dream about further enriching the stuff.

My guess? He was just keeping it around in case Joe Wilson ever lipped off to him. Then he’d be all like, “you’ve been punk’d!

153 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:40:34pm

re: #146 Racer X

Everyone knows that John Kerry is an a-hole. I think Bush even designated Nov 17th as "Yes, John Kerry is an a-hole" day.

In our hearts, John Kerry is an asshole everyday.

154 ironbill  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:40:43pm

Searching popular news sites and papers for yellowcake info is rather a disappointment. Drudge has it down in the middle of the page. The Washington Post has a very short write up.

I'm optimistically viewing this as a result of the slow holiday weekend news cycle and fully expect the NY Times and Joe Wilson to issue full page apologies tomorrow.

The sky is green in my world.

155 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:42:22pm

re: #138 freedombilly

Me or Kerry?

of course KERRY

156 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:42:46pm

Floyd Landis was screwed.

157 opnion  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:43:02pm

re: #151 christheprofessor

He's got a point. Why get shot down and spend years getting tortured to meet with communist North Vietnamese officials when one can just take a commercial (private?) flight to Paris?

Spot on. One guy defies the enemy while in captivity & the other guy runs over to Paris to collabarate. Who is the honorable man? Let me think

158 yochanan  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:47:00pm

2 HEADS ARE THEY BETTER THAN ONE?

159 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:47:17pm

Honor killing in Georgia...
Police: Arranged marriage led father to kill daughter

A Clayton County man faces murder charges in the strangling death of his 25-year-old daughter early Sunday over her desire to end an arranged marriage.

Chaudhry Rashad, 54, apparently got mad during an argument in which the victim, Sandela Kanwal, told him she wanted out of the marriage, Clayton police officer Timothy Owens said.
....
Both Rashad and Kanwal are of Pakistani descent.

Rashad had a seizure shortly after the strangling and was taken to a local hospital for treatment, Owens said. He was in custody Sunday at the Clayton County jail and could make an initial court appearance Monday.


No mention of religious motivation.

160 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:47:42pm

re: #156 FrogMarch

Floyd Landis was screwed.

Did you mean he was screwed by his own actions?

161 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:49:13pm

re: #154 ironbill

There is a collective yawn from the MSM on this but it might be that the uranium was no secret and Saddam was allowing the UN to monitor it. I'm not sure, just taking a guess.

162 christheprofessor  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:50:52pm

re: #157 opnion

Spot on. One guy defies the enemy while in captivity & the other guy runs over to Paris to collabarate. Who is the honorable man? Let me think

I wish McCain would regrow his testicles and respond to these constant assaults, particularly from asswipes like Kerry (who, as I recall, McCain defended against the Swift Boaters).

163 freetoken  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:51:30pm

re: #161 Killgore Trout

Possibly the newsworthy parts are that (1) the US military was able to secretly pull this off, and (2) they even found a consumer for it.

164 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:52:15pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

I'll venture a SWAG at this one.
Not Amish.

165 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:55:27pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Disgusting.

166 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:55:34pm

Ha!
Some of you people think there's still a chance to save Western civilization.
Wrong.
Check out the graduate programs at Georgetown University, a school founded by Jesuits and a very highly ranked academic institution.
You can get graduate degrees in Arabic, Arab Studies, Islamic Studies, and Peace Studies.
You CANNOT get graduate degrees in Latin, Greek, or Classics.

Postmodern Post Toasties.

excuse me....that was OT....perhaps rude....rant mode off now

167 ironbill  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:57:53pm

re: #161 Killgore Trout

There is a collective yawn from the MSM on this but it might be that the uranium was no secret and Saddam was allowing the UN to monitor it. I'm not sure, just taking a guess.

Excellent analysis (however) if the UN had it inventoried, my guess is that somebody in the executive branch would have screamed "LOOK AT THIS" way back during the Valerie Plame era of revisionist history.

I'm hoping there is some kind of forensic research - documentation, geological matching, etc - that can tell us where it originated.

If it ends up coming from Niger, the story is as dead as J. Edgar Hoover

168 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:58:22pm

Now, about those bicycles,.............
Uh....yes...uh..........
Good grief. When it comes to the Tour de France, I'm like Obama in Appalachia. Uh.......uh....

169 Alouette  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:58:25pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Honor killing in Georgia...
Police: Arranged marriage led father to kill daughter

No mention of religious motivation.

Eskimos. Global Warming has made them all despair.

/moonbat

170 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 4:58:28pm

re: #160 Sharmuta

Did you mean he was screwed by his own actions?

Nope. Screwed by a the bogus French drug testing labs.
Sure - he may have doped. But I do not trust their methods.

171 iam7545  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:01:03pm

Thanks Charles - I usually read the ticker on cycling news.com.

I will say that the TDF disqualification of Team Astana has limited my interest this year.

Very stupid uncalled for move.

172 christheprofessor  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:01:29pm

re: #170 FrogMarch

Nope. Screwed by a the bogus French drug testing labs.
Sure - he may have doped. But I do not trust their methods.

Hell, they can't make soap, deoderant, or testosterone, why should we believe drug testing labs?

173 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:02:31pm

re: #170 FrogMarch

He did dope, and athletes, not just cyclists, better get a grip on this issue because it's damaging to all sports.

174 damnyanqui  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:02:43pm

Re: Jonesboro GA woman dies in honor killing

Oh yeah, this is for real.
I've been to the house myself. The family apparently attends a huge new mosque built within the last couple of years in midtown Atlanta.

175 Macker  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:06:47pm

re: #173 Sharmuta

Environmental problems aside, I think the Beijing Games are going to be full of dopers. From many countries, including, sadly, the USA.
It's just a gut feeling I have inside....

176 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:06:54pm

re: #174 damnyanqui

Re: Jonesboro GA woman dies in honor killing

Oh yeah, this is for real.
I've been to the house myself. The family apparently attends a huge new mosque built within the last couple of years in midtown Atlanta.

Do you have a link for that specific fact? It's not in the Fox story.

177 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:07:14pm

This blogger brings up that the Canadian company receiving the yellow cake is a company called Cameco. And that George Soros owns a substantial investment in the company.
[Link: www.macsmind.com...]
Not sure that I see a problem with this. Any thoughts?

178 ironbill  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:07:50pm

re: #166 wolfie

Ha!
Some of you people think there's still a chance to save Western civilization.
Wrong.
Check out the graduate programs at Georgetown University, a school founded by Jesuits and a very highly ranked academic institution.
You can get graduate degrees in Arabic, Arab Studies, Islamic Studies, and Peace Studies.
You CANNOT get graduate degrees in Latin, Greek, or Classics.

Postmodern Post Toasties.

excuse me....that was OT....perhaps rude....rant mode off now


Wolfie my dear Lizard amigo. I currently attend another esteemed Jesuit university (think Vince Lombardi and G. Gordon Liddy). While Fordham still maintains a Classics Department, the offerings are growing slim, and as a major it is on its last legs. However, Feminist studies and Post-Colonial theory are growing by leaps and bounds.

The problem with Georgetown is the amount of Whahabbist money that underwrites the institution. As well, perhaps the most unctuous of all academic terror apologists, John Esposito, is the capo de tutti capo of Middle East studies there (as corrupt and rabidly antisemitic as they come).

179 pat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:08:46pm

Bordens now makes its craft and wood glues in China, I just read on label. Changing brands. Elsie can go screw herself if she doesn't get served up as tripe with sweet pepper sauce first.

180 pat  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:10:13pm

I went to a Jesuit Grad School. Did not take peace studies.

181 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:14:07pm

re: #177 seekeroftruth

This blogger brings up that the Canadian company receiving the yellow cake is a company called Cameco. And that George Soros owns a substantial investment in the company.
[Link: www.macsmind.com...]
Not sure that I see a problem with this. Any thoughts?

George Soros seems to own everything. that's disturbing.

182 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:14:22pm

re: #177 seekeroftruth

IIRC, Soros own Haliburton stock too. Dude has money.

183 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:14:43pm

re: #173 Sharmuta

He did dope, and athletes, not just cyclists, better get a grip on this issue because it's damaging to all sports.

I'm not convinced he doped.

184 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:16:06pm

re: #172 christheprofessor

Hell, they can't make soap, deoderant, or testosterone, why should we believe drug testing labs?

(snicker)
I'm all for testing but the testing itself must be clean and open to scrutiny.

185 seekeroftruth  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:17:07pm

re: #181 FrogMarch

re: #182 Killgore Trout

Thanks.
Guess the real question would be - what doesn't Soros own or have stock in?

186 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:17:48pm

re: #183 FrogMarch

Suit yourself, but you're defending a cheater.

187 ironbill  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:17:50pm

re: #180 pat

Jesuit schools lean heavy on the "Peace and Justice Studies" drivel because of their attachment to liberation theology and (my personal favorite) "social justice."

Thousands of forests have been destroyed to fill the pages of social justice arguments and they all boil down to this: fairness. What I want these scholars to do (and none have) is to now provide me with a definition of 'fair.'

188 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:21:12pm

re: #178 ironbill

Fordham too. Sigh.
This is very sad state of affairs.
I fear it is much more important than many think.

Yes, the Saudi money explains the Islamic stuff at G'town. (And thanks for the reminder that Esposito--ugh--is the big gun there.)
But when you put all that money (regardless of it being "free") into Islam and PC crap, while neglecting the very foundations of Western civ,..............It's just terrible.
It makes me want to cry.

189 damnyanqui  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:21:41pm

RE:


re: #174 damnyanqui

Re: Jonesboro GA woman dies in honor killing

Oh yeah, this is for real.
I've been to the house myself. The family apparently attends a huge new mosque built within the last couple of years in midtown Atlanta.

Do you have a link for that specific fact? It's not in the Fox story.


Nope.
Heard it myself in passing.
Don't know if the mosque has a name, but it's a collossus recently built on 14th Street just south of Atlantic Station (which probably means nothing unless you're familiar with Atlanta)

190 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:27:32pm

re: #187 ironbill

If ever there was a phrase that makes me want to heave my cookies, it's "social justice."
Life is strange.
The Jesuits have gone from being the greatest defenders of orthodoxy and the greatest educators to being the most destructive order in the Church today.
May Ignatius curse them!

191 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:28:22pm

re: #186 Sharmuta

Suit yourself, but you're defending a cheater.


From your link:

On July 28, 2006 Landis appeared on "Larry King Live" to explain his situation and reiterate his innocence.[40] Seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong phoned the show to express support for his former teammate. Armstrong expressed skepticism of the French laboratory that conducted Landis's drug test, noting it is the same laboratory involved in some of the doping allegations against him.[41] Armstrong has continuously expressed support for Landis and stated his conviction that the process is biased against athletes.

I also think Greg Lamond is a dick.

&

Testing lab credibility

LNDD, the laboratory that analyzed both of Landis's tests, is a French government agency and is one of 34 anti-doping testing labs in an international WADA network. LNDD's credibility has been attacked by Landis and his attorneys. These attacks have been joined by several Landis allies, including cycling officials, scientists, and medical professionals.

* In 2005, the president of the Association of Summer Olympic International Federations called for investigation and suspension of LNDD after it was involved, along with UCI and WADA, in the leaking of the results of tests on seven year old samples from Lance Armstrong and two other cyclists, dating back to the 1999 Tour de France, which were alleged to be positive for doping.[49

I think I'll remain remain skeptical.

192 wolfie  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:29:00pm

re: #189 damnyanqui

That's smack dab downtown, isn't it?
How did they get the property?

oh.money..oil..wahabbi..Never mind.

193 ironbill  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:32:34pm

re: #188 wolfie

The last vestiges of serious scholarship regarding Western Civilization are now at the smaller Catholic liberal arts colleges like Thomas Aquinas in New York and Belmont Abbey in North Carolina. Ivy League schools punted on serious curriculum decades ago and are a travesty considering the garbage they teach now.

Your analysis is correct. Without this foundation the house will crumble.

194 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:34:12pm

re: #160 Sharmuta

Did you mean he was screwed by his own actions?

I honestly don't know in my heart whether I think Landis cheated (and I freely admit that I hope he didn't). But I did see a photograph of Landis' specimen from the labratory in France. There was a computer printed label that had about half a dozen fields. All of them were typed except for the field marked ID number. That was blotted out with white out and a different ID number was hand written in with a pen. I will keep looking for the link.

It was also leaked from the labratory that Landis' A sample had tested positive to the media before the B sample was even tested. One of the pillars of the integrity of the drug testing process is that no one at the labratory is to know the identity of any of the specimens while testing or in between testing the A and B samples.

There is also no question that if the test results were accurate that he doped. He had about double the allowed amount of testosterone in his system which could not have been produced by his body alone (from what I have read.....I am a musician and can barely spell biology).

I think that he may have cheated and should lose his title (which he has) and be banned for two years according to the rules of cycling. But there is no question that the lab in question is worthless.

About as impartial as Media Matters.

195 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:36:06pm

re: #191 FrogMarch

As part of its prosecution, USADA had remaining "B" portions of the other samples tested by the French laboratory. Four of those samples also showed the presence of synthetic testosterone.

Like I said before, suit yourself.

196 ironbill  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:40:33pm

re: #190 wolfie

When I returned to school 3 years ago, I was unaware of the chasm that existed in the church concerning Jesuit theology and mainstream Catholic doctrine.

Prior to my start at Fordham my parish priest basically told me in so many words, "please don't come out of there an atheist."

197 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 5:49:19pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Honor killing in Georgia...
Police: Arranged marriage led father to kill daughter


No mention of religious motivation.

we are hearing this so often now. it's getting to the point that young women who don't want to be forced under the sack or into cousin marriages etc. are going to have to realize that their own fathers are their worst enemies.
these women are going to have to have a plan to flee or face a kill or be killed situation w/ their OWN father.
this is the evil of islam. just no words for it, but evil.
we need to prosecute this w/ a vengeance.

198 troonbop  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 6:31:35pm

I'm watching the tour daily on OLN. I ride a fair amount myself, but up here in Canadaland our season isn't quite as long as Charles enjoys. And i don't mutter or swear when he starts talking about biking in February, hardly at all. Actually, it's great to see the pix and hear some talk about it.
Have to admit, if i didn't ride not sure i would be interested in it.
Hey, one month to NFL preseason!

199 freedombilly  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 6:35:52pm

re: #198 troonbop

I'm watching the tour daily on OLN. I ride a fair amount myself, but up here in Canadaland our season isn't quite as long as Charles enjoys. And i don't mutter or swear when he starts talking about biking in February, hardly at all. Actually, it's great to see the pix and hear some talk about it.
Have to admit, if i didn't ride not sure i would be interested in it.
Hey, one month to NFL preseason!

Less than one month to NFL preseason!

200 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:02:46pm

re: #152 FrogMarch

Chimpymchaliburton strikes again.

Now, before you dull, neocon chickenhawk dupes (whose gullibility encouraged smarter and more discriminating Dem congresspeople to set aside their concerns and their principles and vote us overwhelmingly into a fake war based on the lying lies of lying liars who lied) get to feeling all vindicatey, please note that yellowcake itself — even 550 metric tons of the stuff — is not, without further enrichment, capable of causing anything more than a panic. And Saddam was far too busy writing romance novels and terrorizing Kurds and Marsh Arabs to even dream about further enriching the stuff.
My guess? He was just keeping it around in case Joe Wilson ever lipped off to him. Then he’d be all like, “you’ve been punk’d!

The yellowcake is too heavy and not radioactive enough to make a good dirty bomb (as in massive casualties), though it would probably kill a few people, cause a huge panic and a cleanup nightmare—which in itself would be worth a terrorist using it.

It would be very difficult to avoid detection while enriching it to the point where it would sustain fission. Over 99% of uranium isotopes won't sustain a chain reaction. It takes a great deal of effort to single out the less than 1% of uranium isotopes that will sustain a reaction.

The comment:

And Saddam was far too busy writing romance novels and terrorizing Kurds and Marsh Arabs to even dream about further enriching the stuff.


is just an unsupportable opinion of the commentor. Indeed, he could have used the uranium to terrorize the "Kurds and Marsh Arabs". While it won't make a good dirty bomb, it still is nasty stuff.

It may not be a bona fide WMD in itself, but it certainly could be a step toward making one. Regardless of whether Iraq had WMD, they were violating their agreements from the UN ceasefire from the First Gulf War.

201 kansas  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:20:21pm

huge new mosque built within the last couple of years in midtown Atlanta.

We're getting mosques here in the Midwest. A new take on the Trojan Horse, apparently.

202 stevieray  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:21:12pm

re: #200 David IV of Georgia

Uhhh... David? The author was being snarky. That is a tongue-in-cheek poke at the BDS laden goofballs on the left.

203 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:32:52pm

re: #202 stevieray

Uhhh... David? The author was being snarky. That is a tongue-in-cheek poke at the BDS laden goofballs on the left.

Jeff Goldstein is the King of Snark.

He regularly and royally pisses off the Moonbat BDS brigades. One of them went so far as to stalk and harass him and his family: Mad Doctor Deb Frisch.

204 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jul 6, 2008 7:59:26pm

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