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Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:17:50 pm PDT
Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions.
— G. K. Chesterton
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Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:17:50 pm PDT
Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions.
— G. K. Chesterton
1044 comments
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Sharmuta Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:19:29pm |
Perhaps misogyny could be defined as the anger of men who have no compassion.
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mj Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:20:37pm |
Chesterton is wrong.
Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have only opinions.
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:21:05pm |
Ironic that the overnight thread opens just as I'm about to take my midday lunch break.
/mmm, delicious timezone differences.
//brb
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:21:13pm |
Got WMD?
US removes [550 metric tons of] uranium from Iraq
"The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:22:25pm |
Anyone besides me have an opinion about this?
Because, you know, The Mog is just the safest place on Earth.
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:23:01pm |
The overnight open...can we discuss Jeff Gordons meltdown on the nascar circuit at the 400 or should we keep it more refined as in a Bloomberg anti everything that is fun fundraiser!
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:23:30pm |
re: #6 Wyatt Earp
I'm guessing they're going to recall their mission there. In the name of "efficiency."
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Maximu§ Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:23:46pm |
Weee...it Sunday!
Wait, I have to go to work tomarrow...#$%^@
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:26:22pm |
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:26:33pm |
We are Christian Taliban.
/where's the stadium, there's women to execute
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faraway Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:26:41pm |
Only 2 options remain for the CoLB on Obama's website:
1. it is "doctored" at best, or
2. it is forged.
Either option looks bad for Obama.
If the COLB is real, then the image has been doctored. Someone digitally removed the state seal and the top crease. Plus they completely hid the center crease (even Strata and polarik couldn't find it). Why would Obama doctor this image?
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:28:49pm |
re: #5 Yankee Division Son
Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.
1/2 a football field?
1/2 a bomb?
BTW, good evening Lizards!
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:29:17pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
Misogyny is the anger of men who have no SELF-CONFIDENCE.
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:30:35pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
Perhaps misogyny could be defined as the anger of men who have no compassion.
...and little to no security in their manhood.
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psyop Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:31:09pm |
I am seldom angry, yet always have an opinion.
I am not sure what that makes me, but I tend to make OTHER people angry.
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drmark Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:31:14pm |
"What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, but an absence of self-criticism." - Sidelights on New London and Newer New York
Chesterton
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:31:14pm |
re: #14 ggt
Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.
1/2 a football field?
1/2 a bomb?
BTW, good evening Lizards!
/between 25-30 B52s loaded to the max
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:31:50pm |
re: #5 Yankee Division Son
mmm... cake...
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:32:19pm |
I think I'm going to hit the pistol range tomorrow.
I think I'll bring both TundraSage, and TundraWest. I have some concentration to achieve.
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psyop Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:02pm |
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:03pm |
re: #18 drmark
Somewhat like people SAYING they want Justice, but only for the other guy... ME wants compassion, mercy, DrMark!
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solomonpanting Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:21pm |
re: #14 ggt
Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.
1/2 a football field?
1/2 a bomb?
BTW, good evening Lizards!
One metric ton is a bit over 2,200 pounds.
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:25pm |
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:34pm |
re: #23 Noam Sayin'
I brought a Glock 26 Thursday. I don't usually like the plastic guns but the 26 and 30 are a lot of fun.
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rawmuse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:39pm |
re: #23 Noam Sayin'
Hey Noam!
Do you like the Taurus? Are they any good? They sure are affordable.
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:33:42pm |
I have a funny feeling this thread is going to morph itself into the much dreaded monday morning open with alarm clocks and heavy traffic at hand!
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drmark Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:34:49pm |
"I believe what really happens in history is this: the old man is always wrong; and the young people are always wrong about what is wrong with him. The practical form it takes is this: that, while the old man may stand by some stupid custom, the young man always attacks it with some theory that turns out to be equally stupid." - ILN 6-3-22
Chesterton was full of quotesre: #25 Carridine
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:34:53pm |
re: #14 ggt
From the article:
"In April, truck convoys started moving the yellowcake from Tuwaitha to Baghdad's international airport, the official said. Then, for two weeks in May, it was ferried in 37 flights to Diego Garcia, a speck of British territory in the Indian Ocean where the U.S. military maintains a base."
37 flights of (I assume) C130's gives you some idea of how much that really is..
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:36:13pm |
re: #26 solomonpanting
One metric ton is a bit over 2,200 pounds.
So there's How Many grams of unenriched uranium in one ton of YellowCake?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:36:27pm |
re: #28 protestshooter
My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:37:13pm |
re: #34 Carridine
Yellowcake is about 80% Uranium Oxide.
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Shug Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:38:31pm |
Q: What do you call bigotry in Italy ?
A: A redwood. Maybe a sequoia.
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:38:41pm |
anyone watch the clip on fox news about the woman who sang the black national anthem?
Jesus im pretty sure all the people in america saying they hate their country would be able to find hundreds of millions of people in the world who would kill to trade places with them.
Im Canadian and the self loathing of some Americans makes me go insane, i can't imagine hearing it from my fellow so called citizens daily.
You guys and gals here must have the anger management skills of a buddhist monk.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:38:44pm |
re: #35 Wyatt Earp
My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.
If I could legally carry I'd probably be partial to them because of the weight and other issues. But as a range gun I like Sig and I have a nice 1911.
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American Soldier Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:39:20pm |
re: #29 rawmuse
Hey Noam!
Do you like the Taurus? Are they any good? They sure are affordable.
I own two, in .45ACP. Both are great values- they work well.
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:39:22pm |
re: #12 Killian Bundy
We are Christian Taliban.
/where's the stadium, there's women to execute
Is that why you keep grinding that axe?
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Kulhwch Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:40:15pm |
Excellent quote.
}:) [Hope all lizards are well tonight, not too sunburned, and happy with their families.]
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:40:19pm |
re: #36 protestshooter
Yellowcake is about 80% Uranium Oxide.
Okay, and there were (550 x 1000) kilograms, therefore
(550 x 80) kilograms of uranium, therefore
4400 kilograms of uranium, therefore
ONE HUGE BOMB or several, even when cooked down for enrichment
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psyop Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:41:22pm |
re: #39 pegcity
I handle it by telling myself that those that are most pessimistic in our country are also the least likely to breed.
I will be sure to raise my two children right, and thereby secure the future for the sane and reasonable.
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rawmuse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:41:24pm |
re: #42 American Soldier
Cool, I will make one my next buy. I want to buy one a month from now until Obama gets sworn in, while I can. :)
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solomonpanting Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:41:38pm |
re: #34 Carridine
So there's How Many grams of unenriched uranium in one ton of YellowCake?
A metric ton is one thousand kilograms, a kilogram is one thousand grams, so a metric ton is one million grams (1,000 times 1,000.)
Math over...
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:42:35pm |
re: #35 Wyatt Earp
My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.
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I love my Glock 20, didn`t go over well and they didn`t sell many, but it is a super 10mm that I think is a great firearm...the knock is that they beat themselves to death under heavy use...I don`t plan on racking thousands of rounds thru it so that isn`t a problem.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:42:39pm |
re: #43 Salem
Is that why you keep grinding that axe?
/hey, as long as you and your fellow travelers keep insisting that Christians are a clear and present danger to this country, I'm there, grinding away
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:42:46pm |
re: #34 Carridine
So there's How Many grams of unenriched uranium in one ton of YellowCake?
What the hell is this, a math test?
Okay, buster! Answer this.
A truck carrying yellowcake leaves Baghdad at 6 pm travelling at twice the speed of a spotted owl and on the road to Basra. A spotted owl carrying a fig leaves Basra and travels 52.4 kilometers when it meets the truck. At what time did the owl leave Basra and how many bushels are in a peck of figs?
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:43:08pm |
re: #50 gibsonz
My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.
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I love my Glock 20, didn`t go over well and they didn`t sell many, but it is a super 10mm that I think is a great firearm...the knock is that they beat themselves to death under heavy use...I don`t plan on racking thousands of rounds thru it so that isn`t a problem.
10 mm?
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:43:11pm |
Am I crazy or do I remember reading a while ago that north africa was the only place you could get yellow cake from? Or one of the few places it was mined? Anyone else remember?
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:43:54pm |
re: #51 Killian Bundy
/hey, as long as you and your fellow travelers keep insisting that Christians are a clear and present danger to this country, I'm there, grinding away
Well, what specifically is bothering you?
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:44:05pm |
re: #53 wolfie
Wolfie, laughing too hard, gasping for
breath...
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:44:14pm |
re: #45 Carridine
Okay, and there were (550 x 1000) kilograms, therefore
(550 x 80) kilograms of uranium, therefore
4400 kilograms of uranium, thereforeONE HUGE BOMB or several, even when cooked down for enrichment
Well let's see Uranium Oxide is U3O8, so back of the enveloping it about 68% should be Uranium. But you have to enrich it quite a bit to do something useful with it. I suppose I can look that up...
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psyop Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:44:28pm |
re: #49 solomonpanting
A metric ton is one thousand kilograms, a kilogram is one thousand grams, so a metric ton is one million grams (1,000 times 1,000.)
Math over...
Yellowcake is not refined, he was asking how much weapons grade material can be derived from said amount of yellowcake. If I am reading it correctly, that is.
Think of it like grain alcohol. One ton of grain makes only a few barrels of liquor. Same with yellowcake to fissionable material.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:07pm |
re: #39 pegcity
It gets very tiresome.
I don't mind the anti-Americanism of the Fwench or others, but the homegrown stuff gets both maddening and boring...if that makes any sense!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:12pm |
re: #50 gibsonz
I just wish our pinhead commish would convert us to the .45 caliber. The 9mm bounces off a dog's head. Heh.
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:15pm |
re: #29 rawmuse
Hey Noam!
Do you like the Taurus? Are they any good? They sure are affordable.
Oh, my gosh. I love that weapon. I've fired a couple hundred rounds through it and have not had one misfire, jam, or other such malfunction. The breakdown is a little involved, but it's still a fairly simple piece of machinery.
And, yes. It's relatively inexpensive. I compaired it to a Glock 32 (?), and a Ruger that was roughly equivalent when I was first shopping, and for the price it performed just as well. I encourage you to get one.
...or two.
My first time with the Walther was another situation, which I think I may have caused myself. I may not have oiled the rail before I hit the range, and had some issues rechambering. As I remember, the issue didn't occur until several rounds into my 'therapy.' That's the main reason I'm heading to the range tomorrow - to see if I still have that problem after a good cleaning and lube.
That being said, the PPK is an amazingly simple piece to break down. Yank out the trigger guard and pull the slide back and lift. Yer done.
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:17pm |
re: #39 pegcity
Nah, we just remember how lucky we are to have a Bill of Rights and realize that means we have to put up with sh!t we don't like. In the long run, it's worth it.
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EC Marm Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:30pm |
re: #53 wolfie
Waves hand frantically!
I know, I know!
The number C!
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:39pm |
re: #53 wolfie
All I really wanted to know was How Many Grams of USABLE fissile material in 550,000 grams of YellowCake, minus the Sported Owls...
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AZfederalist Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:45:45pm |
re: #53 wolfie
What the hell is this, a math test?
Okay, buster! Answer this.
A truck carrying yellowcake leaves Baghdad at 6 pm travelling at twice the speed of a spotted owl and on the road to Basra. A spotted owl carrying a fig leaves Basra and travels 52.4 kilometers when it meets the truck. At what time did the owl leave Basra and how many bushels are in a peck of figs?
African or European Owl?
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solomonpanting Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:46:00pm |
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American Soldier Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:46:00pm |
re: #48 rawmuse
Cool, I will make one my next buy. I want to buy one a month from now until Obama gets sworn in, while I can. :)
PT145 Millennium Pro is my daily carry piece. Compact, discreet, excellent handling, inexpensive.
I went window-shopping for a 1911 the day after Heller. If i get enough ahead this month...
/does this .45 make my ass look fat?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:46:25pm |
re: #64 Wyatt Earp
Um, I meant .40. It's too damned late. Sorry.
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Kulhwch Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:46:50pm |
re: #6 Wyatt Earp
Anyone besides me have an opinion about this?
Because, you know, The Mog is just the safest place on Earth.
Man, those Somalians better not mess with the UN. Why, the UN'll ... UN'll ...
}:) [ ... uhm, what, give them a firm talking to?]
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:47:12pm |
re: #63 wolfie
It gets very tiresome.
I don't mind the anti-Americanism of the Fwench or others, but the homegrown stuff gets both maddening and boring...if that makes any sense!
being a conservative is hard enough in canada, i can't imagine what it must be like in the US.
At least i don't have to defend my country every 2 seconds.
I must say finding dates who aren't total moonbats it tough, i had one girl tell me CUBA was paradise on earth and if only america wasn't mean they would be able to prosper.
I was like er ok, this aint gonna work
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:47:36pm |
re: #56 Yankee Division Son
I know there is a natural (a/k/a made by mother nature) nuclear reactor in North Afrika.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:47:52pm |
re: #73 Kulhwch
They'll give them a firm talking to and maybe put them in "Time Out." Idiots.
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psyop Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:47:54pm |
re: #68 Carridine
All I really wanted to know was How Many Grams of USABLE fissile material in 550,000 grams of YellowCake, minus the Sported Owls...
I see that I did get your intended question correct. (See post #61).
I am trying to look that up... it seems to be tough to find.
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Carridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:47:56pm |
Argh!
Time's up. I must hie me to a nunnery.
Back later in my K suit.
CUL
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:49:32pm |
re: #62 beachkatie
I bought a 40 cal. Berratta cougar.I was never comfortable with it, I don`t know, could have been me, just didn`t feel comfortable in my hand!
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:49:32pm |
No no no, you see, I'm not a militant atheist. I can't speak for anyone else here, of course. I suppose I was at one time. But I realized it was hopeless. The Christians aren't going anywhere. Now I only slander and ridicule as a mad compulsion.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:51:04pm |
re: #60 protestshooter
OK, so U-235 is .711% of what you have. You would need to get that to 3% for fuel rods, minimum 20% for a bomb but "weapons grade" is more like 85%. So you need to throw out 99% of the material to have something easy to work with. So your 550 metric tons of yellowcake, becomes 375 tons of uranium, and you end up with maybe a ton of weapons gradeish material.
Depending on purity critical mass for a uranium weapon is maybe 100-1000 pounds, and to get good yield you actually want more than that (ideally almost twice that). So just pulling a number out of my butt, and recognizing there's some rounding and approximations, let's say 5-10 bombs.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:51:31pm |
re: #83 gibsonz
Glock has become my best friend! My groupings is the best!
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:51:49pm |
re: #84 Salem
No no no, you see, I'm not a militant atheist. I can't speak for anyone else here, of course. I suppose I was at one time. But I realized it was hopeless. The Christians aren't going anywhere. Now I only slander and ridicule as a mad compulsion.
Or the Jews. They aren't going anywhere. hell, none of you religious people are going anywhere. Science and Religion will battle it out until the last day, I'm sure.
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:52:02pm |
re: #83 gibsonz
If I could spell it would be a blessing or a blllesssing
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:52:03pm |
re: #85 ggt
its par for the course here. Lets just say we won't be going on any more dates.
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American Soldier Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:52:23pm |
re: #81 pegcity
how does the stopping power compare to a 9mm?
Sheesh! this debate again?
If you hit someone anywhere with a .45ACP, or a .44 Magnum, you may not kill them outright; they will lose interest in whatever it is you are doing (people on PCP being the conspicuous exception- brain or heart shots required).
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winston06 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:52:32pm |
I had a very busy day and now I am going to sleep...
[Link: thespiritofman.blogspot.com...]
good night every one
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:53:02pm |
re: #84 Salem
Salem , What is your drink of choice to night?
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AZfederalist Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:53:38pm |
re: #75 pegcity
My sympathies.
We here in America are simply going to have to start taking back our country. When some moonbat stands up and says something stupid, like, "we can't solve our supply shortage by increasing supply" (the "we can't drill our way out of this problem" statement). The majority of us who have more than half a brain need to start shouting these idiots down and stop listening to them. When some idiot says the solution is to bring back the 55 MPH speed limit -- we've got to collectively laugh in their faces and ask for new representation. We have got to stop listening to those who think the First Amendment protects their ability to indoctrinate and spread any type of smut they want, but that "hate speech" should be banned and that political speech 90 days before an election is illegal unless you are a member of the press or that the second amendment doesn't mean what it says or is outdated. This bending over for the left has *got* to stop.
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:53:46pm |
re: #92 American Soldier
im thinking more for people wearing body armor
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:54:03pm |
re: #75 pegcity
I have never understood how a conservative can be married to a moonbat...and yet it does happen
and from time to time it works.
I have enough trouble just handling a liberal sister w/ her moonbat husband.
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:54:08pm |
re: #81 pegcity
Supposedly a pretty hot load thus leading to the gun beating itself to death...don`t have the ballistics at hand but a huge difference.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:54:52pm |
re: #79 psyop
I see that I did get your intended question correct. (See post #61).
I am trying to look that up... it seems to be tough to find.
One thing's for sure, Hussein wasn't up to any good with 550 metric tons of it. I don't think he was planing new planters for the south palace grounds..
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:54:57pm |
re: #86 protestshooter
By the way, that's very back of the envelope, and yellowcake varies a lot in purity, so if you hear somebody official say it's two or twenty I'd believe that over my calculation.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:56:13pm |
re: #79 psyop
I see that I did get your intended question correct. (See post #61).
I am trying to look that up... it seems to be tough to find.
If you find a number other than my calculation above I'd love to see it.
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:56:53pm |
re: #95 AZfederalist
America is the only country allowed to not prosper, well besides Israel.
You can't drill for oil, or refine it. You aren't allowed nuclear energy, or proper borders.
Hell the governement of Canada is in the nuclear reactor selling business but you don't hearing anyone whining about it.
I guess your prosperity isn't fair to the lazy and stupid.
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:57:10pm |
re: #95 AZfederalist
I remember that the First Amendment may say they have a right to speak, it implies that I have a choice to listen or not.
Think Code Pink or Shehag -- they get lots of press, but no one but the press is at their events.
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:57:17pm |
re: #81 pegcity
how does the stopping power compare to a 9mm?
I've been told on this forum numerous times, that a .40 is the best home defense option, other than you're o'l pal Mossberg. Reason being is that the round doesn't travel much farther than the intended target. However, frangible bullets make 9mm and 45s just as 'stoply.'
Then again, American Soldier puts it nicely at #92. Unless you're in a heavy crack neighborhood, you're probably good with a 9mm.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:57:37pm |
re: #102 protestshooter
Your name is protester right? I get it!:)
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pegcity Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:57:37pm |
re: #98 gibsonz
i've been watching too much future weapons and weaponology.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:57:49pm |
re: #88 Salem
Or the Jews. They aren't going anywhere. hell, none of you religious people are going anywhere. Science and Religion will battle it out until the last day, I'm sure.
/Good luck, you'll need it
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:57:59pm |
re: #94 beachkatie
Salem , What is your drink of choice to night?
Oh, it's not that.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:58:23pm |
re: #106 beachkatie
Your name is protester right? I get it!:)
It's Protest Shooter. I take pictures at protests - much like Zombie and Ringo and No Submission.
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Kulhwch Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:59:51pm |
re: #78 Wyatt Earpre: #73 KulhwchThey'll give them a firm talking to and maybe put them in "Time Out." Idiots.
Isn't the word 'idiots' a redundancy when talking about the UN?
}:) [The UN will probably withhold their deposit, come to think of it.]
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 9:59:57pm |
re: #87 beachkatie
Glock has become my best friend! My groupings is the best!
glocks are the only handguns I've ever found that don't like me... probably my fault, yet true, anyhow.
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American Soldier Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:00:11pm |
re: #96 pegcity
im thinking more for people wearing body armor
A friend of mine, while an MP, shot up an '80s era flak jacket. At 15m or further, it stopped everything up to .45ACP. Any rifle round defeated it.
Current body armor with plates will stop some rifle rounds. The poster boy for that was the medic sniped by some jihadis- hit in the chest, went down, got back up, and shot them both. Photos of his bruised but un-pierced chest were circulated by DOD as an object lesson for those who hate wearing armor.
Armor is rated for various threat levels.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:00:23pm |
The other thing I'd love to know, when did he obtain all that? (sanctions?) Did the UN know about it after all the "inspections"?
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:00:32pm |
re: #108 Killian Bundy
/Good luck, you'll need it
I'm afraid I don't believe in luck, either.
Look man, I'm just trying to keep things with a little ribaldry. Don't be so stern all the time, huh?
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:00:54pm |
re: #51 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian! Uh, who is it out here who's calling Christians a clear and present danger to this country?
And were they talking about Christians or Christians and Jews (you know, the old Judeo-Christian ethic)?
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:01:40pm |
re: #110 slokat
This wiki page says 1/6th - 1/8th yield per ton... (+/- many factors)
/no knowledge, just reporting what I've found
That's a cool page, actually.
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:01:53pm |
re: #107 pegcity
Me too...that is why I always have the Bushmaster with a double stack thirty nearby just in case...ya gotta love proven technology!
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:01:59pm |
(Just got back from lunch)
re: #115 American Soldier
The poster boy for that was the medic sniped by some jihadis- hit in the chest, went down, got back up, and shot them both.
In the words of Nelson Muntz: "HA HA!" Nice one.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:02:13pm |
re: #56 Yankee Division Son I remember that Nigeria apparently has a LOT of yellowcake, but don't know about the rest of Africa. Sorry.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:02:22pm |
re: #116 Yankee Division Son
The other thing I'd love to know, when did he obtain all that? (sanctions?) Did the UN know about it after all the "inspections"?
As I recall it's from back in the day.
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solomonpanting Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:03:27pm |
-Hamas fires rockets into Israel from Gaza
-Israel responds by (among other acts) by cutting back on fuel supplies
-There is not enough fuel for sewage treatment plants in Gaza-
- When a toilet is flushed in Gaza City, the waste sloshes straight into the Mediterranean
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:04:05pm |
re: #125 realwest
I remember that Nigeria apparently has a LOT of yellowcake, but don't know about the rest of Africa. Sorry.
Anybody who mines Uranium produces it. As I recall quite a bit of it is in the US, and Canada too maybe? If anybody cares they can just Google around for where Uranium is mined.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:04:13pm |
re: #62 beachkatie
Hey beachkatie, how are ya tonight? Didja get creamed by those thunder and lightning storms like we did?
Oh, and btw, .40 caliber is best in an S&W, not a glock.
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:04:38pm |
re: #88 Salem
Or the Jews. They aren't going anywhere. hell, none of you religious people are going anywhere. Science and Religion will battle it out until the last day, I'm sure.
That's a good experiment.
We all leave & you get to see if absence of religion makes a difference.
I can't falsify it at the moment, but it smells like good science!
good bye! thanks for the loaves & fishes?
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:05:04pm |
re: #105 Noam Sayin'
I've been told on this forum numerous times, that a .40 is the best home defense option, other than you're o'l pal Mossberg. Reason being is that the round doesn't travel much farther than the intended target. However, frangible bullets make 9mm and 45s just as 'stoply.'
Then again, American Soldier puts it nicely at #92. Unless you're in a heavy crack neighborhood, you're probably good with a 9mm.
Any handgun under .40 needs to be shot with hollow point ammunition.
/Federal Hydra-Shok rounds are state of the art
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:05:17pm |
re: #117 beachkatie
It is some thing! I read you alot!
Oh, well thanks. I just thought KB had something to get off his chest.
Interesting things are happening here...
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:05:23pm |
re: #119 realwest
Following the posts back to the original, apparently it has to do with my remarks about the Puritans in the previous thread.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:05:53pm |
re: #127 solomonpanting
Ah, yes.
How to turn a Mediterranean beach resort into a sludge dump.
I know what we can do!
Let's give them a state!
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:07:03pm |
re: #123 gibsonz
Hey it's going to be us girls to do what needs to be done! be ready , and do what need's to be done! :)
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:07:43pm |
re: #125 realwest
I remember that Nigeria apparently has a LOT of yellowcake, but don't know about the rest of Africa. Sorry.
Seems to me the story the Brits gave out was that Saddam's lieutenant was bargaining in Niger for yellowcake.
I wonder if there's anyway to trace the stuff...any geological clue.
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wtc394 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:07:48pm |
Oh, and btw, .40 caliber is best in an S&W, not a glock.
yea, I'd have to agree. Began policing with a SW 4906 for the longest time then went to a Glock, .357 round with .40 powder. Shot MUCH better with the Smith no matter how much I pratice.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:07:54pm |
From the article:
"U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.
U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site — surrounded by huge sand berms — following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns."
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:08:14pm |
re: #127 solomonpanting
Munzir Shiblak, of Gaza's sewage utility, said he needs 40,000 gallons of fuel a month to treat the extra waste. From January to April, he said, the plants received less than half that, both because of Israeli sanctions and because of Hamas "mismanagement."
Semi-flying-pig moment? Note the quote bunnies around mismanagement, those were already in the article.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:09:15pm |
re: #137 wtc394
yea, I'd have to agree. Began policing with a SW 4906 for the longest time then went to a Glock, .357 round with .40 powder. Shot MUCH better with the Smith no matter how much I pratice.
/S&W is the Rolls Royce of handguns
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AZfederalist Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:09:32pm |
re: #104 ggt
I remember that the First Amendment may say they have a right to speak, it implies that I have a choice to listen or not.
Think Code Pink or Shehag -- they get lots of press, but no one but the press is at their events.
Oh, absolutely true. My gripe is with those who want to silence the ability to speak as the founders intended -- they meant for people to be able to speak out in the public square. As you say, people, by choice may choose not to listen, but the right to speak is what is being affirmed. In our day, the public square includes the airwaves, yet the government says that only candidates or the press are allowed airtime 90 days prior to an election.
My other fuss here is the fact that the people you cite above are given air time and the ability to publicly denigrate the country that grants them the right to make such speech without retribution; yet those are the same persons who will scream and shout down anyone who might say something that doesn't fit within their perception of "permissible" or "correct" speech.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:09:36pm |
re: #130 slokat
That's a good experiment.
We all leave & you get to see if absence of religion makes a difference.
I can't falsify it at the moment, but it smells like good science!good bye! thanks for the loaves & fishes?
I think the 20th century had enough of those experiments.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:10:07pm |
re: #129 realwest
Yes real west we had those thunderstorms!Wow! Much needed Rain here! Hope you had a great 4Th!Lov ya mean it!:)
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wtc394 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:10:31pm |
re: #140 Killian Bundy
yea, and when I got home, I appreciated the safety along with the mag drop safety. That actually saved a co-worker years ago.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:10:38pm |
re: #105 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! How are you tonight my friend?! Well, I hope!
I'm a big fan of the .40 caliber S&W, but can't imagine saying that it or anyother handgun is a better home defense weapon than Mr. Mossberg.
Hell, just the sound a racking one in the chamber can sometimes be enough to scare off a burglar!
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ReaganRepublican Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:10:51pm |
Rosie Odonnell said the christians are more dangerous than the muslim extremists...and she would know ...right?re: #119 realwest
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:12:32pm |
re: #128 protestshooter
There may very well be a LOT of yellowcake here in the US, but the greenies won't let us do anything with it!
Fuck 'em.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:12:57pm |
re: #142 wolfie
You will find a different in a believes soon!
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:13:42pm |
re: #140 Killian Bundy
/S&W is the Rolls Royce of handguns
But you only get six.
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protestshooter Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:14:21pm |
Hey I found an article [Link: archive.newsmax.com...] that says 142 bombs from that much material but they're using a figure of 25 kilograms per weapon which is really low - you can probably get it down that far with some tricks but a first generation bomb with any kind of decent yield is going to use a lot more than that so I think it's an inflated figure.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:14:32pm |
re: #133 laZardo Um, what did you say about Christians in the previous thread (or better yet, just give me a link to your comment!).
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:14:43pm |
re: #88 Salem
Should I pelt you with latkes, then, or Ploomie's matzo balls? ;)
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:14:45pm |
re: #145 realwest
Hell, just the sound a racking one in the chamber can sometimes be enough to scare off a burglar!
Exactly.
I believe it's called, "The Pucker Factor."
How you doin' my friend?
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:15:40pm |
re: #145 realwest
Hell, just the sound a racking one in the chamber can sometimes be enough to scare off a burglar!
---
Nothing is more potent at close quarters than a 12 guage pump loaded with 00 and 4 buck staggered every other round!...what one won`t get the other will...
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:16:05pm |
re: #149 Noam Sayin'
My Birthday is the 16Th ! Can 't wait to see what happens! Our lady of mount Carmel!
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:16:36pm |
re: #142 wolfie
I think the 20th century had enough of those experiments.
wasn't equating annihilation with leaving.
was sparring with Salem along the lines of the dolphin thanking the humans for all the fish before they shipped out...
what would happen if only atheist were left? Would his theories prove true?
that's all. lighthearted, not apocalyptic.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:16:58pm |
re: #143 beachkatie
Yes, we did indeed have a fine Independence Day and I'm glad you did too - and love ya right back, mean it too!
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EC Marm Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:17:23pm |
re: #151 realwest
Um, what did you say about Christians in the previous thread (or better yet, just give me a link to your comment!).
Here's what lazardo said:
I don't think the first white settlers - essentially the Christian Taliban with extra witch hunting - would have foreseen that little clause in the Constitution 120-or-so-years from their first landing either.
Houston, do you see the problem?
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:17:26pm |
re: #152 NY Nana
Should I pelt you with latkes, then, or Ploomie's matzo balls? ;)
Ooh! Pelt him w/ ploomie's matzo.
I want the latkes !
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:17:29pm |
re: #149 Noam Sayin'
Oops.
Thinking simply .357.
Forgot all about those other handguns that S&W makes. My bad.
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solomonpanting Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:17:35pm |
re: #139 laZardo
Semi-flying-pig moment? Note the quote bunnies around mismanagement, those were already in the article.
And it could be that Hamas mismanagement is 80% of the problem, less the owls.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:18:32pm |
re: #149 Noam Sayin'
But you only get six.
Oh, you're fixated on revolvers.
/S&W make fine pistols, ten rounds, no recoil
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:18:48pm |
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:19:23pm |
re: #151 realwest
I referred to the early Puritan colonials as the "Christian Taliban" (in the context of their "society" then and how they would not have seen the 1st Amendment coming 100 years later) and was drawn and quartered for it.
Jaunte actually replied to your post regarding it in the previous thread.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:19:30pm |
re: #146 ReaganRepublican Aw, geez, did this all start with that tart ? I don't hardly remember anyone trying so hard to masquerade as a "thinking" person as much as Rosie O'Donnel except for, perhaps, Cindy Sheehan.
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:20:08pm |
re: #156 slokat
We would probably be super-cyborgs piloting mecha by 2100. (:
Then an EMP would wipe us all out in 2102. ;_;
/lololol
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:20:44pm |
re: #156 slokat
Yeah. I didn't mean to sound so grim, really.
Actually, I didn't sound that grim.
And I had a mischievous, but not snarky, little grin.
But it came out typed grim. :(
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Dan G. Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:22:10pm |
Anyone else notice that there are several repeat postings of a story about Ezra Levant defending the Nazi indoctrination of a child and comparing it to some troofer idiot bringing his daughter to publically proclaim their ignorance?
Anyone else nauseated at this moral equivalence?
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redc1c4 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:23:09pm |
re: #53 wolfie
What the hell is this, a math test?
Okay, buster! Answer this.
A truck carrying yellowcake leaves Baghdad at 6 pm travelling at twice the speed of a spotted owl and on the road to Basra. A spotted owl carrying a fig leaves Basra and travels 52.4 kilometers when it meets the truck. At what time did the owl leave Basra and how many bushels are in a peck of figs?
i'm not sure but spotted owl tastes a lot like bald eagle. %-)
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:23:29pm |
re: #170 beachkatie
Remember we are family!
Hah! If we really were family, Nana would pass me one of those latkes she dangled in front of us!
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:23:57pm |
re: #172 redc1c4
i'm not sure but spotted owl tastes a lot like bald eagle. %-)
needs fava beans & a good chianti?
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:24:00pm |
re: #165 laZardo
I referred to the early Puritan colonials as the "Christian Taliban" (in the context of their "society" then and how they would not have seen the 1st Amendment coming 100 years later) and was drawn and quartered for it.
/because, of course, we judge modern society by what happened more than two centuries ago
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:24:48pm |
re: #149 Noam Sayin'
"But you only get six." ?!
"Smith & Wesson produces more pistol models and chamberings than any other handgun manufacturer in the world making us the premium handgun manufacturer in terms of pistol variety, quality and performance."
Link is: [Link: www.smith-wesson.com...]
And see my personal fav, Model SW40VE Pistol - Allied Forces!
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:25:34pm |
re: #136 wolfie
wasn't that the origins of the "Valerie Plame Affair"? I had a hard time getting that one straight. They'll probably turn it into a bad made-for-TV mini-drama.
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:26:17pm |
re: #168 wolfie
no problem, I cook really good potato pancakes, too. Hhmm, Lutheran Latkes?
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:26:21pm |
re: #153 Noam Sayin' Well I'm doing ok, my friend, just getting a little bit sleepy right now!
Hey, how was your Independence Day? Did you have fun or rain?!
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:26:27pm |
re: #119 realwest
Hey Killian! Uh, who is it out here who's calling Christians a clear and present danger to this country?
And were they talking about Christians or Christians and Jews (you know, the old Judeo-Christian ethic)?
Christians, Jews, wassa difference? They both believe in the same Intelligent Designer, right? After all, this isn't about the Bible, it's about the Glory of Science!
No, but seriously, the last couple of threads have been peppered with ruminations about whether the ID advocate's mindsets could be compared to the jihadists. But it could be argued that this line came about because of all the protests that we ought to be worried about the jihadists to the exclusion of the DI by people who were, conspicuously or not, arguing the "evolution is only a theory" meme.
Folks must understand by now that this debate isn't going away. I suppose the election and Iran and all that goes with those will move it to the back burner for awhile, though I can only surmise. Obviously, some will here be grateful for the respite, no matter how gory or frightful the interrupting issue is.
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:26:31pm |
re: #164 MandyManners
Hey, Noam? Tell your attorneys that Connecticut is too cold for me. I'd like this, instead.
Ah, honey. We're not even married yet and you're already planning our divorce?
/At least let me nail ya a couple times to see if it's worth the effort.
;)
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:26:36pm |
re: #159 wolfie
Ooh! Pelt him w/ ploomie's matzo.
I want the latkes !
Take all you want! I have to let Salem decide re Ploomie's matzo balls.
I actually used to grate the potatoes for latkes, until the food processor was invented, probably by a Jewish inventor who was tired of bleeding knuckles every Hannuka! ;) I never seem to get out of the kitchen, though, as the family sneaks in and takes the ones that are finished frying, and draining on paper towels, and grabs them and run away to eat them at the table. It really is hilarious.
I only make them for Hannuka...fried foods are something we stay away from, but I have also made them baked, and it is just not the same.
I have a fool-proof recipe that gives the measurements...no guesswork involved!
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EC Marm Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:26:44pm |
re: #175 Killian Bundy
/because, of course, we judge modern society by what happened more than two centuries ago
I'd measure from Jamestown, 1607. It's late, but I'm guessing that was somewhere around 400 years ago.
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The Other Les Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:27:52pm |
re: #166 realwest
Aw, geez, did this all start with that tart ? I don't hardly remember anyone trying so hard to masquerade as a "thinking" person as much as Rosie O'Donnel except for, perhaps, Cindy Sheehan.
There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:
From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)
"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:27:58pm |
re: #173 wolfie
Nana would pass me one of those latkes she dangled in front of us!
So virtual latkes aren't good enough? Harrumph!
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:28:13pm |
re: #141 AZfederalist
Yeah, that 90 day thing p!$$es me off too! And as for the whacko's getting air-time -- MSM is a product. They show what sells. Everybit of the MSM is what the Enquirer used to be. Now, sadly, the Enquirer is a notch above.
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wiffersnapper Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:28:16pm |
I wear the bigot badge with pride, along with my racist, homophobe, warmonger badges. Thanks kos kidz!
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:28:20pm |
re: #172 redc1c4
Hey red*, have you ever heard these guys? I'd heard the name but never heard their music. Someone I subscribe to on YouTube just uploaded this yesterday. Pretty cool, imo.
*and any others who listened to hardcore
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:28:47pm |
re: #39 pegcity
anyone watch the clip on fox news about the woman who sang the black national anthem?
Jesus im pretty sure all the people in america saying they hate their country would be able to find hundreds of millions of people in the world who would kill to trade places with them.
Im Canadian and the self loathing of some Americans makes me go insane, i can't imagine hearing it from my fellow so called citizens daily.
You guys and gals here must have the anger management skills of a buddhist monk.
Thing is...
There's a lot more of us than there are of them.
And we're carryin'
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:28:47pm |
re: #158 EC Marm Oh, dear. Well remember EC, he is a tad young and therefore ignorant - but I repeat myself!
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ASU86PE Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:29:16pm |
re: #150 protestshooter
Nice Job! Thanks. Way to go W and troops.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:29:29pm |
re: #181 realwest
We needed it bad here now! But they decided our taxes need to go up because of global warming...Sheee!
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Desert Dog Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:30:05pm |
re: #186 The Other Les
There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:
From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."
Maybe he meant Munster Gas?
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:30:06pm |
re: #179 ggt
wasn't that the origins of the "Valerie Plame Affair"? I had a hard time getting that one straight. They'll probably turn it into a bad made-for-TV mini-drama.
Yes, you're right.
And then Joe Wilson, Plame's husband, claimed he couldn't find anyone in Niger who knew about it..because the bartender in his fancy hotel didn't...and the poolboy didn't...and well, you know how that goes. So that DISPROVED Britishintelligence...and YES. I think the whole absurd little media drama is coming back to me!
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:31:11pm |
re: #193 realwest
Well shee-fucking-eesh. Sorry if I spiked your tempers there. Even if I had also remarked up that thread that society evolved from what it was almost 400 years ago.
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:31:33pm |
re: #183 Noam Sayin'
Ah, honey. We're not even married yet and you're already planning our divorce?
/At least let me nail ya a couple times to see if it's worth the effort.
;)
Say "good-night", Noam.
/Like you'd even hafta' ask.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:32:03pm |
re: #182 Salem
Christians, Jews, wassa difference? They both believe in the same Intelligent Designer, right? After all, this isn't about the Bible, it's about the Glory of Science!
No, but seriously, the last couple of threads have been peppered with ruminations about whether the ID advocate's mindsets could be compared to the jihadists. But it could be argued that this line came about because of all the protests that we ought to be worried about the jihadists to the exclusion of the DI by people who were, conspicuously or not, arguing the "evolution is only a theory" meme.
Folks must understand by now that this debate isn't going away. I suppose the election and Iran and all that goes with those will move it to the back burner for awhile, though I can only surmise. Obviously, some will here be grateful for the respite, no matter how gory or frightful the interrupting issue is.
/keep digging, your friends will eventually come to your rescue
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:32:24pm |
re: #165 laZardo Ah, didn't see my friend Juante's reply, sorry.
But you shoulda been drawn and quarterd for comparing the Puritans to Taliban. The differences are so great in the context of today's society that we'd need an entire thread to even begin to explore it.
Y'all shoulda compared the Inquistioners to the Taliban and might have received a little less of the battering you did receive!
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:32:35pm |
re: #152 NY Nana
Should I pelt you with latkes, then, or Ploomie's matzo balls? ;)
Actually, I can't think of many Jews I would want to go away, off the top of my head. Except maybe Ohlmert.
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The Other Les Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:33:15pm |
re: #196 Desert Dog
Maybe he meant Munster Gas?
Nah. I think he was reflexively posturing as a mentally superior being.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:33:49pm |
re: #197 wolfie
weetdreams to ya wolfie! 1:32 am weet dream to ya all!Luv ya mean it!
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Desert Dog Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:33:55pm |
re: #197 wolfie
Yes, you're right.
And then Joe Wilson, Plame's husband, claimed he couldn't find anyone in Niger who knew about it..because the bartender in his fancy hotel didn't...and the poolboy didn't...and well, you know how that goes. So that DISPROVED Britishintelligence...and YES. I think the whole absurd little media drama is coming back to me!
well, if I hung out at the bar at the Niger Hilton and asked the other barflies if they saw any uranium, I would get the same answers that Sherlock Wilson got on his trip too...Joe Wilson is a liar and a hack for the left...if he told me the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, I would doubt it until I saw it for myself
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:34:32pm |
re: #171 Dan G. Uh, y'all got any links for that? Sure doesn't sound like him at all.
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:34:40pm |
re: #202 realwest
The Inquisition didn't colonize America. Spain did, but they hardly had more than la Ciudad de la Nuestra Senora de Los Angeles and a few scattered monasteries.
Either way, it's batterings like those that are the reason I'm double-jaded with both sides of the aisle.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:36:24pm |
re: #209 laZardo
The Inquisition didn't colonize America. Spain did, but they hardly had more than la Ciudad de la Nuestra Senora de Los Angeles and a few scattered monasteries.
Either way, it's batterings like those that are the reason I'm double-jaded with both sides of the aisle.
/thus spake moonbaticus
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:36:28pm |
re: #184 NY Nana
If it's a secret recipe, I'll understand.
But if it isn't, I'd love to have it sometime!
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:36:29pm |
re: #156 slokat
wasn't equating annihilation with leaving.
was sparring with Salem along the lines of the dolphin thanking the humans for all the fish before they shipped out...
what would happen if only atheist were left? Would his theories prove true?
that's all. lighthearted, not apocalyptic.
We'd probably stay up all night drinking. IOW, same as usual. ;)
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:37:10pm |
re: #179 ggt Hey there
{ggt} by golly you're right! Joe Wilson was sent to see if Nigeria was selling yellowcake to Iran or Iraq (I've forgotten whom) while his CIA superdupersecretagent wife Valierie Plame was talking about it at cocktail parties! YES, I DO REMEMBER THAT NOW!
Thanks!
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The Other Les Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:37:15pm |
re: #207 ggt
there are really people that ignorant?
Yes.
I call them The Left.
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:37:37pm |
re: #181 realwest
Hey, how was your Independence Day? Did you have fun or rain?!
Drove up to see the family yesterday. Caught a good tailwind so my gas mileage was pretty good - for a Jeep Wrangler.
Wind stayed pretty heavy all day an into the night, so the annual paddle boat cruise with my mom was out of the question - no fishing, either.
Hung out with Dad most of the time. He can't believe I won't vote Democrat anymore, and I can't believe he wants to vote for Obama - after all I've told him about the man. And I really explained a lot about the asshole. But this is the last presidential election in which he'll be able to participate (doctors gave him a year), and I think he really wants to vote for an African American. I can't counter that. Minnesota's going to go for Obama anyway.
Slept in a tent in the yard. Nice, lake breezes blowing through.
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MajorPribluda Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:38:02pm |
re: #213 realwest
Hey there
{ggt} by golly you're right! Joe Wilson was sent to see if Nigeria was selling yellowcake to Iran or Iraq (I've forgotten whom) while his CIA superdupersecretagent wife Valierie Plame was talking about it at cocktail parties! YES, I DO REMEMBER THAT NOW!
Thanks!
OH NO, YOU JUST OUTED VALERIE PLAME!
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gibsonz Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:38:48pm |
I have discovered the "tipping point" between the Sunday night open thread and the Monday morning open thread...it is a bottle of Miller hidden between the jar of sweet relish and the box of "arm and hammer"...shall we call it the last one or the first one ?
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:39:21pm |
re: #182 Salem After all the threads we've had out here, I'm actually surprised that anyone IS trying to debate it!
Anyway, elections are more fun - there's so much more to make fun of!
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:40:30pm |
re: #199 MandyManners
Say "good-night", Noam.
/Like you'd even hafta' ask.
G'night, darlin.
Grr...
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:40:33pm |
re: #201 Killian Bundy
/keep digging, your friends will eventually come to your rescue
Well, you know, they probably have to catch up on their sleep. Defending science and reason around the clock and all that.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:40:54pm |
re: #216 MajorPribluda
You will know what to do when the time comes! Love you mean it! when your time comes!
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The Other Les Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:41:09pm |
re: #219 laZardo
Leet? More like a Noob.
As I said. A pretender to a superior status.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:41:15pm |
re: #186 The Other Les
ROTFLMAO! The absolutely stunning ignorance displayed by moobats cannot be denied! They are an (unwittingly) never ending source of laughter!
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:43:13pm |
re: #203 Salem
Actually, I can't think of many Jews I would want to go away, off the top of my head. Except maybe Ohlmert.
I would throw a pary. He is a danger to Israel, and a thug to boot. I am sure he would run to Fwance. IIRC, his son the draft dodger lives there...how Olmert has gotten away with it?
/Wanna throw Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chumpsky, along with Soros under the bus?
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:43:34pm |
re: #218 realwest
After all the threads we've had out here, I'm actually surprised that anyone IS trying to debate it!
Anyway, elections are more fun - there's so much more to make fun of!
Imagine how keen it would be if our candidate was Giuliani instead of McCain. No doubt it will be interesting, though. Since we're fortunate enough to live in such interesting times.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:43:41pm |
re: #186 The Other Les
There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:
From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."
When calling somebody an ignorant fool, make sure you have your facts straight first... Oy vey.
Maybe we would have found more bad stuff in Iraq if we had been looking for Terroris, Uraniu and Plutoniu.
G-d help us all...
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:44:36pm |
re: #225 laZardo
re: #210 Killian Bundy
I'm sorry to both of you, all right? Jeez.
/will you pray for us?
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:46:12pm |
re: #211 wolfie
I will leave my nic blue, and you can email me. I think I have it as a file that I can attach.
Speaking of yellow cake, BTW...
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:46:14pm |
re: #198 laZardo
laZardo, you know I like you and respect you, but 'tis FAAAR too late here for me to go into it with you now!
Just chill, please.
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:46:29pm |
re: #212 Salem
We'd probably stay up all night drinking. IOW, same as usual. ;)
personally I think society would stratify between the enlightened & the unenlightened, once the unenlightened tired of raiding things from the empty buildings.
In crude terms Science v/s the Mob.
Ivory towers would be real places of refuge.
but, then again, I've read more than my share of Sci Fi
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:46:42pm |
re: #232 Killian Bundy
I will try to stop getting all Nietzsche like that on threads, will that do?
half-/
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Alberta Oil Peon Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:47:20pm |
re: #5 Yankee Division Son
Got WMD?
US removes [550 metric tons of] uranium from Iraq"The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."
Just for the record, yellowcake, is the concentrate of uranium-bearing minerals extracted from the raw ore. That is the product that is trucked from the mill on the mine-site. It's a raw material, nothing more, and it would take a great deal of industrial infrastructure to turn it into fissionable uranium metal or U3O8 reactor fuel.
Yellowcake, in and of itself, is not a "weapon of mass destruction" anymore than, say 500 barrels of toluene (precursor to TNT) is a "weapon of mass destruction". Possession of the stuff is indicative of intent, and I am glad to see it in safe hands at last, but it did not mean that Saddam was merely weeks away from being able to deploy a nuclear bomb.
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American Soldier Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:48:03pm |
An old acquaintance called today, bored and looking for something to do. So I spent several hours between her thighs.
/ I love my ‘85 Shadow
// g'night, all
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:49:46pm |
re: #186 The Other Les
There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:
From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."
To borrow a line from the venerable Lizard Zombie, that takes a special kind of stupid.
"Muster Gas"? Do you have a link to its dissertation on "Aged Orange"?
/
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:51:01pm |
re: #215 Noam Sayin'
ah shit, Noam, I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad only having a year yet to go - please remember that doctors are wrong about that kinda stuff all the time.
Over THREE YEARS ago when my prostate cancer was "discovered" the first two doctors to see me said I had maybe 8 months to go.
Far as I'm concerned, only God determines when you're time is up.
But it's still crappy news to hear. Hey, if y'all get a chance and feel like it, drop me a line my good friend.
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:51:15pm |
re: #228 NY Nana
I would throw a pary. He is a danger to Israel, and a thug to boot. I am sure he would run to Fwance. IIRC, his son the draft dodger lives there...how Olmert has gotten away with it?
/Wanna throw Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chumpsky, along with Soros under the bus?
Might as well, they bought the damned thing!
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:51:35pm |
re: #240 beachkatie
Ok... you are making me old before my time...Mc Cain Man!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:51:37pm |
re: #237 laZardo
I will try to stop getting all Nietzsche like that on threads, will that do?
half-/
Good thinking.
/better than being on the outside looking in
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Alberta Oil Peon Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:52:06pm |
re: #14 ggt
Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.
1/2 a football field?
1/2 a bomb?
BTW, good evening Lizards!
About 605 "short" tons (2000 lb.), so about 1.21 million pounds. Probably would yield enough U235 to make a bomb, but going from yellowcake to U235 is a mighty difficult undertaking.
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Maximu§ Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:53:10pm |
Any Lizards here eat grits?
Anyone who served in the military knows the best meal served in the chowhall is breakfast (lunch and dinner suck) and for some reason I Loved eating Army grits...I brought the habit home with me and now my kids and I eat our grits in the morning.
Now Grits (done right) has to be cooked slow (10-15 min)...boil some water, a pinch of salt and mix in a little grits at a time and don't walk away...you gotta keep stirring or it gets lumpy.
Well Southerners I learned, really take their grits seriously and they got all kinda crazy recipes for grits...now the only way to eat grits properly is with milk, sugar and a little piece of butter mixed in.
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:53:53pm |
re: #244 beachkatie
Sweet dreams to all green footballers!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:54:06pm |
re: #246 Alberta Oil Peon
About 605 "short" tons (2000 lb.), so about 1.21 million pounds. Probably would yield enough U235 to make a bomb, but going from yellowcake to U235 is a mighty difficult undertaking.
/not for lack of trying
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The Other Les Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:54:39pm |
re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth
To borrow a line from the venerable Lizard Zombie, that takes a special kind of stupid.
"Muster Gas"? Do you have a link to its dissertation on "Aged Orange"?
/
I'm afraid I don't.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:55:21pm |
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too-old to-??? Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:55:52pm |
re: #13 faraway
Only 2 options remain for the CoLB on Obama's website:
1. it is "doctored" at best, or
2. it is forged.Either option looks bad for Obama.
If the COLB is real, then the image has been doctored. Someone digitally removed the state seal and the top crease. Plus they completely hid the center crease (even Strata and polarik couldn't find it). Why would Obama doctor this image?
It is a fake. What is posted is supposed to be an abstract of the original document. I have obtained copies of my own BC, both abstract and complete.
The Obama BC, as posted, is in color. Scanning my own BC, it comes out in black and white. and one word comes through clearly. That word is "VOID".
Both of my BC copies (abstract and full) include watermarks that can't be scanned. Both include embossing, which can't be scanned. The embossing can only be felt.
The paper they were printed on appears to be from the "American Bank Note Company". I know this because the full form has that printed on it. Companies and governments tend to buy from one supplier. They get better discounts that way.
If you want to verify this, you can go to the state where you were born, and go to the proper site. Probably the health department, although that may vary from state to state. Vital Records would be the other option.
Then scan it and see what it looks like.
If you think that sounds hard, try getting a certified copy of your DD-214. I went through the DVA, and had to send proof of who I was to the National Archives, before it would be processed.
I really hate to think about what I will have to go through to get a copy of my fathers service record.
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realwest Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:56:09pm |
Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I really gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!
Goodnight, all.
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:56:10pm |
re: #247 Maximu§
best grits I've ever seen was on someone else's plate while I was enjoying biscuits 'n gravy!
/
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Maximu§ Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:57:24pm |
re: #252 BlueCanuck
But don't call it polenta. ;)
/heathen, no cheese?
//savory kinda guy here.
OMG...Cheese? Thats right, Southerners put cheese in their grits...is that American cheese?
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Maximu§ Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:57:56pm |
re: #254 realwest
Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I really gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!
Goodnight, all.
Nite RW
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:58:28pm |
re: #247 Maximu§
Sugar in grits is a mortal sin in the South.
/Southerner
//also no sugar in cornbread, thankyouverymuch ;)
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The Other Les Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:58:51pm |
re: #250 The Other Les
I'm afraid I don't.
But I do have a link to another interesting concept.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:59:25pm |
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 10:59:26pm |
re: #247 Maximu§
Milk and sugar?!? Good Lord, my Charleston, SC daddy is rolling in his grave to hear of such a thing! Butter and salt. (Pepper if you're a little kinky.)
Up here in the mountains of VA we eat them w/ butter only, too, but I have heard of folks making them w/ a little milk mixed in the water.
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:00:39pm |
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:00:43pm |
re: #254 realwest
Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I really gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!
Goodnight, all.
G'nite RW.
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MajorPribluda Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:00:45pm |
Interesting how Google's logo has been rendered unrecognizable for the birthday of Marc Chagall. I heard rumors that Google did something for Independence day, but I certainly didn't see it. Perhaps it's a server cache thing.
But I doubt it.
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Maximu§ Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:00:46pm |
gop_patriot
Sugar in grits is a mortal sin in the South.
Hell, they just might lock me up if I admitted that openly in Virginia...still milk, sugar and butter goes well with Grits.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:01:07pm |
re: #257 Maximu§
OMG...Cheese? Thats right, Southerners put cheese in their grits...is that American cheese?
Yeah. You can do that. But for supper, not breakfast!
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:01:23pm |
re: #257 Maximu§
OMG...Cheese? Thats right, Southerners put cheese in their grits...is that American cheese?
We sometimes grate cheddar into the grits. But usually it's just butter, salt, and sometimes pepper. :)
/love that scene in My Cousin Vinnie- "What's a grit?" lol
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:02:09pm |
re: #242 realwest
Thanks, my friend. Even my dad doesn't believe it, but as you are aware, this family has been let down before very recently. My dad, 80, is a tough old bird, and feels himself that he can outlast what the doctor told him. Even the doctor told him that it's just a number, but he let him know that this was final.
I would like things to be different. I would also like that my 18-year-old neice wasn't dealing with cancer, either. I would mostly like for my family to have a break, after three years of dealing with this horrible disease, I would like for us all to get to a point where we could enjoy our lives without the Sword of Damacles hanging over our head.
But I'm not in charge.
And while I'm on it, for those of you who are in goddessoftheclassroom's prayer circle, I thank you from my humble heart for the strength you have given me and my family.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:02:17pm |
re: #242 realwest
ah shit, Noam, I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad only having a year yet to go - please remember that doctors are wrong about that kinda stuff all the time.
Over THREE YEARS ago when my prostate cancer was "discovered" the first two doctors to see me said I had maybe 8 months to go.
Far as I'm concerned, only God determines when you're time is up.
But it's still crappy news to hear. Hey, if y'all get a chance and feel like it, drop me a line my good friend.
Arrrggghhh!
I can't stand to remain silent any longer!
Stop referring to a single individual as "y'all" ! ! !
As any true southerner knows, "y'all" is the contraction of the plural of "you," as in "you all."
Sheesh!
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:02:34pm |
re: #266 beachkatie
Bacon, eggs Grits! and jelly toast! and a glass of o.j.!
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:02:47pm |
re: #270 Maximu§
LOL! :) I have to admit, some of my mom's family is from the midwest, and they were big into cream of wheat. Now, that, I put sugar in. Good stuff.
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MajorPribluda Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:03:03pm |
re: #267 NY Nana
I hope they do time.
G'night, all! Sweet dreams!
It would be nice, but the most likely term either of them is to serve is as Democrat Representative of whatever sewer they hail from.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:03:04pm |
re: #261 gop_patriot
Sugar in grits is a mortal sin in the South.
/Southerner
//also no sugar in cornbread, thankyouverymuch ;)
It's wicked, gop. Just wicked, this sugar pollution of fine corn products.
If Al Gore wants to save the world, why can't he do something about that?!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:03:55pm |
Who [expletive deleted] eats grits?
/get over your damn cholesterol
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:04:29pm |
re: #266 beachkatie
Don't put sugar on gritts man!
Lordy, I was afraid that would bring my daddy back from the dead...then it brought you back from beddy-bye ! :D
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:04:31pm |
re: #243 Salem
Might as well, they bought the damned thing!
And they are not the only ones, damn it. Too tired to post the list of Olmert's crimes...
G'nite, all! Sweet dreams..try #2!
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:04:34pm |
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:04:54pm |
re: #273 Noam Sayin'
Noam, I don't know what your dad has... but tell him about my dad who was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 77... he turns 91 in a couple of months. Last summer the doctors told him that he should have been dead (statistically) about 7 years ago. They declared him well, having "beaten" the cancer
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:05:50pm |
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:05:55pm |
re: #267 NY Nana
I hope they do time.
G'night, all! Sweet dreams!
That's the darling couple! (ugh)
Goodnight, Nana !
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slokat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:06:19pm |
As a kid I always thought that cream of wheat & oat meal were some sort of punishment...
'nite y'all
/hope more than one person reads that parting salutation, or Lee will be mad...
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:07:05pm |
re: #286 Noam Sayin'
y'all = you all
all y'all = all you all
y'all is plural, all y'all is redundant. :p
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:07:23pm |
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MajorPribluda Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:07:33pm |
re: #286 Noam Sayin'
Actually, plural is, "all y'all."
BWAHAHAAA!
Actually, in the Navy that was usually used as in: 'All y'all mother*&@#&^ better get the *&&*# over here right &*&@ now'!
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beachkatie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:08:31pm |
re: #286 Noam Sayin'
I'm dead women at 2:o5 am! Sweet dream to ya all!Love ya mean it!
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too-old to-??? Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:08:40pm |
re: #176 realwest
"But you only get six." ?!
"Smith & Wesson produces more pistol models and chamberings than any other handgun manufacturer in the world making us the premium handgun manufacturer in terms of pistol variety, quality and performance."
Link is: [Link: www.smith-wesson.com...]
And see my personal fav, Model SW40VE Pistol - Allied Forces!
Wow, my favorite is a CZ-52, in 7.62mm Makarov. The bullet tends to go where you aim. My second favorite is the Ruger GP-100 in .357 Magnum. Mine has a four inch barrel. Great gun, and not as over-priced as S&W guns are.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:09:48pm |
re: #247 Maximu§
Any Lizards here eat grits?
Anyone who served in the military knows the best meal served in the chowhall is breakfast (lunch and dinner suck) and for some reason I Loved eating Army grits...I brought the habit home with me and now my kids and I eat our grits in the morning.
Now Grits (done right) has to be cooked slow (10-15 min)...boil some water, a pinch of salt and mix in a little grits at a time and don't walk away...you gotta keep stirring or it gets lumpy.
Well Southerners I learned, really take their grits seriously and they got all kinda crazy recipes for grits...now the only way to eat grits properly is with milk, sugar and a little piece of butter mixed in.
Damn! You had me goin' there for a minute. Thought... yeah, man knows how to cook grits the RIGHT way!... but then you said eat 'em with milk and sugar!?!?!?!?!?
NO_O_O_O_O_O_O_O! ! ! That's how you eat Cream o' Wheat, you damn yankee!
You eat grits with a big hunk o' butter and salt'n'pepper!
Shee-e-e-e-e-e-eesh! ! ! Damn yankees...!
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:10:42pm |
re: #274 Salem
Same to you! But I won't be sweating :)..we turned the A/C on as the humidity is 98%, and it is just wicked.
Sweet dreams!
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:10:43pm |
re: #247 Maximu§
Well Southerners I learned, really take their grits seriously and they got all kinda crazy recipes for grits...now the only way to eat grits properly is with milk, sugar and a little piece of butter mixed in.
Now I ain't no southerner, but what you speak here sir is heresy.
/
Salt, pepper, bacon, butter!
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:11:26pm |
re: #291 gop_patriot
y'all = you all, as in all of you --from your nose to your toes.
all y'll = all you all, as all of of yous -- from your noses to your toses.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:11:46pm |
re: #277 gop_patriot
LOL! :) I have to admit, some of my mom's family is from the midwest, and they were big into cream of wheat. Now, that, I put sugar in. Good stuff.
Now, my father always ate oatmeal or cream of wheat just like grits, w/ butter and salt. So that's how I eat it.
But my Illinois husband thinks that's barbaric! Milk and sugar all the way! (I have a feeling that's normal, even in the south.)
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:11:54pm |
re: #285 WindHorse
Thanks for your encouragement. He has a reoccuring bladder cancer, which the just removed again, and lung cancer, which they can treat, but can't fix. It might be more than a year, but after my brother's stuggle - a young man for the cancer he had - I'm out of expectations.
Enough of this. I don't want to bring the thread down. You people are so good.
Where's a good Stevie Ray link when you need one.
A quick one - Scuttle Buttin.
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:12:06pm |
re: #288 wolfie
That's the darling couple! (ugh)
Goodnight, Nana !
Eye bleach! They deserve each other.
Sweet dreams to you.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:12:14pm |
re: #45 Carridine
Okay, and there were (550 x 1000) kilograms, therefore
(550 x 80) kilograms of uranium, therefore
4400 kilograms of uranium, thereforeONE HUGE BOMB or several, even when cooked down for enrichment
According to Wiki, and I'd be inclined to trust them for this, natural uranium is about 0.71% U235, the fissionable isotope used in warheads.
So if you were able to extract all the U235 from that 550 tonnes of yellowcake? 550,000 kg yellowcake X 80% = 440,000 kg uranium oxide.
440,000 kg X .0071 = 3124 kg of U235 oxide. 15-20 kg of metallic U 235 is required to make a warhead. So, plenty of warheads, but the process to separate the U235 from the U238 is by no means trivial.
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:13:30pm |
re: #308 Noam Sayin'
I will keep your family in my prayers Noam. keep smiling.
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:13:32pm |
re: #305 ggt
LOL!
/Yous? Apparently, that's really a word, spell-check says so! :D
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:14:07pm |
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:14:17pm |
re: #302 NY Nana
Same to you! But I won't be sweating :)..we turned the A/C on as the humidity is 98%, and it is just wicked.
Sweet dreams!
Cool! Wish I did.
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ggt Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:14:42pm |
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:15:30pm |
re: #308 Noam Sayin'
You're not bringing the thread down. (((NOAM))) We're here for you, sorry I missed your first post. Had to scroll up... I will be praying for your father and entire family.
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wolfie Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:16:25pm |
Good grief! It's late and I've turned into a pumpkin!
A sleepy pumpkin, I mean!
Goodnight all!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:16:31pm |
re: #56 Yankee Division Son
Am I crazy or do I remember reading a while ago that north africa was the only place you could get yellow cake from? Or one of the few places it was mined? Anyone else remember?
Yellowcake is the concentrate produced at the mill on the minesite at the uranium mine. Canada, Africa, Australia, Russia number among the biggest producers. Uranium is not really all that uncommon.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:18:00pm |
re: #286 Noam Sayin'
Actually, plural is, "all y'all."
Wrong!
"Y'all" IS plural, same as "How's y' mama 'n' them?"
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:19:57pm |
re: #293 stevieray
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:20:12pm |
re: #317 ggt
My friend's mom is from Missouri, and she has always said "you'uns". Not exactly sure how you spell that, though. ;)
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:20:16pm |
re: #289 slokat
As a kid I always thought that cream of wheat & oat meal were some sort of punishment...
'nite y'all
/hope more than one person reads that parting salutation, or Lee will be mad...
Got that right!
Here we got a yankee that's learnin'!
};^)
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:22:33pm |
re: #321 Alberta Oil Peon
Yellowcake is the concentrate produced at the mill on the minesite at the uranium mine. Canada, Africa, Australia, Russia number among the biggest producers. Uranium is not really all that uncommon.
/550 tons in Iraq?
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laZardo Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:22:40pm |
I have the urge to keep participating in this Instructional Lesson on Southern American (not to be confused with South American) Food, Culture and Language for Tolerance Purposes. Proceed. >_>
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:24:15pm |
re: #329 Killian Bundy
Do they know where it came from originally? Can they analyze the product and tell? I need to go read your original link...
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:24:45pm |
re: #316 Salem
No A/C? Ouch! We are on the coast, and LI sound is right down the road. the 3 H's..heat, haze and humidity are just wicked. And now we are probably getting hit with thunderstorms, and 90 degree heat for a few days in a row. A NY summer, even in the 'burbs, like we are is no picnic.
Take care!
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:25:12pm |
re: #300 ggt
I like biscuits and gravy too!
Gotta be the right KIND of gravy...
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:26:20pm |
re: #332 NY Nana
No A/C? Ouch!
Take care!
Oh well, at least it's a dry heat...
Ciao!
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:26:31pm |
re: #318 DesertSage
I save the ♥ for you Nana!
I think I am going to cry! Good night, and sweet dreams, Sage.
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:26:42pm |
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:28:35pm |
re: #334 Salem
'At least it's a dry heat'...every single one of my family members who live in LA and environs always say that...
I'll pass! I hope the damned fires can be put under control..scary.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:28:43pm |
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:30:22pm |
re: #303 Slumbering Behemoth
Now I ain't no southerner, but what you speak here sir is heresy.
/Salt, pepper, bacon, butter!
Good boy!
: : : gold star : : :
You may now safely visit here below the Mason-Dixon Line!
;D
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:30:38pm |
re: #340 laZardo
I don't like it... but a lot of people do. Too slimey for me...
I hear it is good with grits... :)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:31:35pm |
re: #343 WindHorse
If the okra is too slimy that means it has been over cooked.
/mom loved it that way, ugh.
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:32:48pm |
i'm trying to catch up on the thread and the best I've done so far is to start to crave chicken fried steak with my eggs in the am...
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:33:06pm |
my brother and I would swallow our okra whole (to get it over with). The standing joke was that it felt like we were swallowing whole rock bass...
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:33:21pm |
re: #305 ggt
y'all = you all, as in all of you --from your nose to your toes.
all y'll = all you all, as all of of yous -- from your noses to your toses.
Wrong again, ggt!
"y'all" = "you all"
PERIOD.
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:33:27pm |
re: #298 LeePro
Hey now sister, easy on the "damn yankee" rhetoric!
//some of us yanks know how to eat proper
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:33:43pm |
re: #338 NY Nana
'At least it's a dry heat'...every single one of my family members who live in LA and environs always say that...
I'll pass! I hope the damned fires can be put under control..scary.
We had the same problem here in Colorado a few years back (drought + fires). Except with fewer celebrity mansions on the line.
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:34:09pm |
And they don't serve chicken fried steak around here...
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:34:15pm |
re: #324 LeePro
Wrong!
"Y'all" IS plural, same as "How's y' mama 'n' them?"
Having dealt with Southerners on numerous occasions, I've come to learn that "y'all" means, "you" and/or your group. In the same conversation, I've heard the same southerner refer to a group of people as, "all, y'all" meaning, "the group to which I'm speaking."
Just my personal observation.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:35:48pm |
re: #307 wolfie
Now, my father always ate oatmeal or cream of wheat just like grits, w/ butter and salt. So that's how I eat it.
But my Illinois husband thinks that's barbaric! Milk and sugar all the way! (I have a feeling that's normal, even in the south.)
Cream o' Wheat, milk, sugar, butter... NORMAL!
...and maybe a little cinnamon!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:36:24pm |
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:36:49pm |
re: #338 NY Nana
Hey - 108+ dry or not is still bleeding hot. By the end of the week, I'll be in NYC to enjoy 90's and 90's...
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:37:20pm |
/give it up for the looming Christian theocracy
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DesertSage Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:37:24pm |
Salem, I gave you a couple of pluses.
No particular reason...I just felt like it.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:37:53pm |
OK as long as we're talking delicious, southern food lets not forget the tastiest yet stinkiest dish of them all, fried catfish. I was once cooking a catfish fillet on the third floor of the building I worked and people came up out of the basement wondering what the smell was.
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:37:55pm |
re: #356 BlueCanuck
Blue - you still in Toronto or do you get back to the maritimes each week?
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Inquisitive Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:38:10pm |
Godd night y'all...been fun lurking as usual...I'll pass on the grits, oat meal and cream of wheat, and believe it on not the biscuits and gravy too. All to mushy for me ! And the okra has to be deep fried and not added to soups or gumbo...or it is slimy...YUK !
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:39:13pm |
re: #336 gop_patriot
That is cute! Never heard of Maypo before.
I remember that phrase from my youth. I am not old enough to have ever had it, though. I think it was a phrase my elders would use to tease me whenever I (as a child) demanded something. Like an inside joke, with me on the outside.
It popped back into my brain reading Stevieray's comment.
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:39:30pm |
re: #360 Neo Con since 9-11
Wonder which is worst - Bluefish or catfish? Had the same thing happen to me after cooking up some Blues that we caught.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:39:51pm |
re: #361 Athos
Always in Toronto. Just had the benefit of travelling a lot when I was younger.
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:40:09pm |
re: #360 Neo Con since 9-11
for me, catfish represents some of the best eating ever AND some of the worst... if the fish ain't fresh, you must acquit...
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:42:18pm |
re: #317 ggt
y'all is sooo funny!
yous guys = all y'all
OMG!
Now you're throwin' in bad grammar with the improper word usage!
Don't EVER say "y'all is ...!"
It's "Y'all are!"
And yous guys (Chicago?) = y'all
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:42:43pm |
re: #366 BlueCanuck
Ah...I'm going to be visiting family in Halifax / Summerside (PEI) in about 10 days. Not getting home to Toronto this trip. Sorry, I thought you went back and forth.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:43:18pm |
re: #369 Athos
No problem, If you are ever this way just let me know.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:43:26pm |
re: #365 Athos
Wonder which is worst - Bluefish or catfish? Had the same thing happen to me after cooking up some Blues that we caught.
I'm not sure about bluefish as I've never had one. I did develop a powerful addiction to catfish during my time down south. I am looking forward to moving out of this apartment and into my own house so I can cook the stuff with out the other tenants complaining
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Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:44:33pm |
Noam Sayin' has reached his, "sell-by" date. I"m instructed to let you know that no other responses will be forthcoming.
(he's kinda bombed).
On behalf of Noam Sayin', I bid you good night.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:44:55pm |
re: #171 Dan G.
Anyone else notice that there are several repeat postings of a story about Ezra Levant defending the Nazi indoctrination of a child and comparing it to some troofer idiot bringing his daughter to publically proclaim their ignorance?
Anyone else nauseated at this moral equivalence?
Dan, go to Small Dead Animals, and scroll down to a topic entitled "Fascist against Fascist".
The event that started this ball rolling was Manitoba Children's Aid apprehending two kids from a couple, because the seven-year old daughter appeared at school with a swastika drawn on her arm (which, if you watch the video, you will learn that she apparently did herself).
Yes, the parents of these children apparently are white supremacists, but if we start taking kids away from people whose politics we dislike, where does it end? That is Ezra's point.
Watch the video.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:45:07pm |
re: #367 WindHorse
for me, catfish represents some of the best eating ever AND some of the worst... if the fish ain't fresh, you must acquit...
Catfish tastes like heaven, smells like hell though.
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:45:45pm |
re: #371 Neo Con since 9-11
Blue's, at least to me, are a lot like catfish - except I like the taste of blue's better. (Ocean fish). But they have an aroma when cooked...and are a little 'oily'.
Nothing better to remind the neighbors not to vex you...
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:47:09pm |
re: #374 Neo Con since 9-11
afraid to say, I have had some that tasted hellish too. Couldn't eat it...
But, I have had some really good catfish too...
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:47:13pm |
re: #358 Killian Bundy
The entire grit eating world, LOL!
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DesertSage Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:47:47pm |
G'nite Noam. And Noam's sock puppet!
Weet dreams!
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pat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:48:01pm |
Watching Chris Tucker in The Fifth Element. What a performance. So cool.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:48:19pm |
re: #372 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet
Say nite, nite for me. LOL
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uptight Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:48:28pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
Perhaps misogyny could be defined as the anger of men who have no compassion.
compassion is subjective
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Athos Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:48:36pm |
re: #370 BlueCanuck
I get back there once a year for family purposes. Always amazed by the changes that take place.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:48:36pm |
re: #327 gop_patriot
My friend's mom is from Missouri, and she has always said "you'uns". Not exactly sure how you spell that, though. ;)
Her mom may be from North Carolina. "You'uns" is really strong over there.
btw ... {gop} !
;)
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WindHorse Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:48:50pm |
I'm outta here too... It has been fun as usual.
Over and out.
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:49:51pm |
re: #380 pat
I DVR'd that earlier, I love that movie. DVR-ing Lara Croft Tomb Raider now, if it's on yet. You know, the one with Gerard Butler. =) Yummy. lol
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:50:01pm |
G'nite Lizards, I'm clocking out. Hope y'all enjoyed your Independence weekend as much as I have.
P.S. Plain grits is great hangover food.
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Karridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:50:09pm |
re: #377 WindHorse
afraid to say, I have had some that tasted hellish too. Couldn't eat it...
But, I have had some really good catfish too...
I think you might LOVE a visit to Thailand... charcoal-grilled catfish available from street vendors for about $0.80 a pop!
Oooh, nummers! Don't mind me, just rubbing it in, Horse! :D
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Racer X Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:50:57pm |
re: #380 pat
Watching Chris Tucker in The Fifth Element. What a performance. So cool.
I watched that earlier. About the 20th time I've seen it. mmm... Mila
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Karridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:51:30pm |
re: #385 WindHorse
Oh, yeah, RIGHT!
Leave JUST as I'm posting!
/dang. Takes all the fun out of it... *mope*
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pat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:51:45pm |
Levant was right. Period. The Canadians would never take away a Muslims kids. An Amerindians kids, etc. It is only white parents who are evil. And this couple is likely evil. So why not start will the haters of the world . Muslims. Because it is too hard.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:51:56pm |
re: #375 Athos
I live too far away from the coast to have ever smelled or tasted blue fish (at least fresh blue fish and that's the only way to properly judge any fish) so I'm going to have to take your word on that
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:52:35pm |
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pat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:53:11pm |
re: #387 gop_patriot
I DVR'd that earlier, I love that movie. DVR-ing Lara Croft Tomb Raider now, if it's on yet. You know, the one with Gerard Butler. =) Yummy. lol
I bet you love Big Trouble In Little China too. LOL. I do.
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:53:29pm |
re: #388 Slumbering Behemoth
Goodnight, slumbering. :) Sleep well.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:54:27pm |
re: #383 Athos
Yeah, I know what you mean about the changes. I haven't lived here most of my life but I did in the early seventies and now since 97. I actually watched the CN Tower being built from our backyard. I also remember when north of the 401 was mostly farm land. If you are interested I am working on a little project that's not turning out to be as small as I thought.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:55:48pm |
re: #395 pat
I bet you love Big Trouble In Little China too. LOL. I do.
Do not dis that movie! One of my personal favs.
/great fight scenes and one of the best endings evar.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:56:16pm |
re: #339 BlueCanuck
Milk and sausage gravy?
/if I remember my Alton Brown correctly.
Close.
Milk, a little flour and the juice scrapings from the slab o'ham you just fried to go with the grits! Throw in a coupla sunny-side-ups and your very small and flaky bisquits, and you've got one helluva southern breakfast!
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:57:03pm |
re: #377 WindHorse
Sorry to hear that, I live in one of the best cat fishing areas in the country and have been fortunate to have never had bad catfish
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Salem Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:57:42pm |
How would people who argue for science best avoid being offensive to religion? And could the religious try to make it easier by not asking the same questions all the time? Why are the defenders of I.D., in particular, always asking questions? Because they only have one answer: God did it. It's terribly difficult to argue with that premise without resorting to snarkiness. After awhile of answering the same questions, we just want to make sure they are paying attention.
I can't endorse that which I don't believe in for the sake of civil debate alone.
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pat Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:57:55pm |
re: #398 BlueCanuck
What a beginning. A 50's hard boiled mystery novel prologue. And when he grabs the knife. GREAT!
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MajorPribluda Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:58:17pm |
re: #382 uptight
compassion is subjective
I'm not really aligned with the President, I'm afraid:
I'm a Passionate Conservative.
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LeePro Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:58:28pm |
re: #339 BlueCanuck
Milk and sausage gravy?
/if I remember my Alton Brown correctly.
Sorry, So Cal IS NOT the South!
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:58:31pm |
re: #395 pat
I bet you love Big Trouble In Little China too. LOL. I do.
Is Gerard Butler in it? (just kidding)
I haven't seen that movie in so long... I should rent it. A scene from that movie made it into the "funniest movie death scenes" clip on YouTube...
/really, they're so bad they'll make you cringe
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Karridine Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:58:38pm |
re: #392 pat
Levant was right. Period. The Canadians would never take away a Muslims kids. An Amerindians kids, etc. It is only white parents who are evil. And this couple is likely evil. So why not start will the haters of the world . Muslims. Because it is too hard.
Pat, what you touch on is the ESSENCE of Justice: What I want for HIM (wretched, filthy BEAST that he is!) is what I want for myself!
This is why Americans have trial by jury of peers, defense attorney appointed on the Peoples' tab IF you cannot afford one, and more... that Justice prevail, not a fancy lynching or pretty show-trial... really establish guilt or innocence...
We've come a long way, but if (we/someone) wants to get social support for an otherwise extra-legal action (racist bigotry, extra-judicial punishment or selective application of existing laws) it is always good to start very publicly, with the arrests to people RECOGNIZED by Us Good Guys as dirty, reprehensible, evil... pedophiles, Jews, Baha'is, rapists... THAT crowd...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:58:44pm |
re: #399 LeePro
Ahh, that helps. The show I saw used the scrapings of sausage. But if you make any gravy you need some starch. :)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:59:42pm |
re: #402 pat
Jack Burton: "It's all in the reflexes."
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gop_patriot Sun, Jul 6, 2008 11:59:52pm |
re: #405 LeePro
Sorry, So Cal IS NOT the South!
I think he's in Atlanta, is he from So. Cal originally?
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:00:40am |
re: #401 Salem
How would people who argue for science best avoid being offensive to religion? And could the religious try to make it easier by not asking the same questions all the time? Why are the defenders of I.D., in particular, always asking questions? Because they only have one answer: God did it. It's terribly difficult to argue with that premise without resorting to snarkiness. After awhile of answering the same questions, we just want to make sure they are paying attention.
I can't endorse that which I don't believe in for the sake of civil debate alone.
I keep trying to find a way to respectfully but firmly refute the claims of the ID folks, and to drive home the simple point that ID is not science, and that's the only objection I have to it.
The problem is that the only respectful but firm refutation seems to be a good science education.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:01:03am |
re: #343 WindHorse
I don't like it... but a lot of people do. Too slimey for me...
I hear it is good with grits... :)
Wow, I REALLY agree with you on that (okra)!
Never ate. Never will.
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Salem Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:03:13am |
Anyway, I'm not a scientist or debater, I'm just sort of a clown.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:03:44am |
re: #329 Killian Bundy
/550 tons in Iraq?
Knowing Saddam, there's no doubt in my mind that he intended to produce nuclear warheads, and hence the 550 tonnes of yellowcake. But having the intent to do something does not necessarily equate to having the ability or the wherewithal to follow through.
I'm glad the yellowcake has been removed from Iraq. I'm certain that Saddam possessed it for evil intent. But it is not a WMD in its own right.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:05:27am |
re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth
Hey now sister, easy on the "damn yankee" rhetoric!
//some of us yanks know how to eat proper
You're right, and I am truly sorry!
;’ (
A yankee is one who visits down here. A damn yankee is one who comes down... and stays here!
My husband is a damn yankee, but like you, he knows how to eat proper!
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:06:02am |
re: #416 Alberta Oil Peon
Knowing Saddam, there's no doubt in my mind that he intended to produce nuclear warheads, and hence the 550 tonnes of yellowcake. But having the intent to do something does not necessarily equate to having the ability or the wherewithal to follow through.
I'm glad the yellowcake has been removed from Iraq. I'm certain that Saddam possessed it for evil intent. But it is not a WMD in its own right.
Not until combined with the Nigerian onions that Brave Joe Wilson busted the Iraqis with.
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:06:27am |
re: #397 BlueCanuck
Let's see, I remember when Scarborough was on the outskirts, Ajax and Pickering was way out there, the Don Valley didn't run much north of the 401, and before the nuclear plant was built out in the Pickering area. CNE grounds and Ontario Place in days before the CN Tower was built, then watching the Jays play in Exhibition Stadium from the CN Tower observation deck while the Skydome was being built.
Now, where I lived in Scarborough is no longer a suburb, but part of the City. But, I still like staying downtown rather than crash with relatives in the burbs. I've gone in winter and taken my daughter skating by City Hall. It's not the same without walking up to Carlton to see a hockey game though.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:06:57am |
re: #417 LeePro
You're right, and I am truly sorry!
;’ (A yankee is one who visits down here. A damn yankee is one who comes down... and stays here!
My husband is a damn yankee, but like you, he knows how to eat proper!
So which type was General Sherman?
[ducks]
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:07:11am |
re: #411 MajorPribluda
I keep trying to find a way to respectfully but firmly refute the claims of the ID folks, and to drive home the simple point that ID is not science, and that's the only objection I have to it.
The problem is that the only respectful but firm refutation seems to be a good science education.
We religious zealots get it.
/and your condescending attitude is boring as hell, more than you can even ungodly imagine
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Render Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:07:20am |
Iraq does, or did during Saddam, produce its own Yellowcake in small amounts.
The UN knew it was there. I think it requires a fairly significant amount of Yellowcake to produce a fairly small amount of bomb grade material and that Iraq wasn't producing enough on it's own at the time.
The UN knew it was there the whole time. I suspect that science is capable of determining the origin source of various batches of Yellowcake and that little if any of that 550 tons came from Niger post 1991.
The UN knew it was there all along. Hans Blix knew it was there all along. It had UN seals on it when it was recovered by US forces.
That 550 tons of Yellowcake joins those long range missiles that weren't supposed to exist, but were somehow launched from inside Iraq and landed in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia or were rudely met by Patriot missiles in flight during OIF.
The UN knew it was there. The UN knew its existence inside Iraq was a violation of the armistice agreement of Desert Storm.
Have I mentioned that the UN knew it was there?
They did.
ANTI
PAIN,
R
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:08:30am |
re: #419 Athos
Yeah you got a point about the Gardens. That building is still standing empty. Remember the Bulova clock tower and the sky tram in the CNE? I bet you have been to Old Fort York as well.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:09:49am |
re: #416 Alberta Oil Peon
Knowing Saddam, there's no doubt in my mind that he intended to produce nuclear warheads, and hence the 550 tonnes of yellowcake. But having the intent to do something does not necessarily equate to having the ability or the wherewithal to follow through.
I'm glad the yellowcake has been removed from Iraq. I'm certain that Saddam possessed it for evil intent. But it is not a WMD in its own right.
What about Iran?
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Salem Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:10:20am |
re: #411 MajorPribluda
I keep trying to find a way to respectfully but firmly refute the claims of the ID folks, and to drive home the simple point that ID is not science, and that's the only objection I have to it.
The problem is that the only respectful but firm refutation seems to be a good science education.
I think you've all been more than reasonable. Only I and a few others are occasional acerbic in expressing ourselves. And it's not like we don't get some nasty sock-puppets on the other side.
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:11:12am |
re: #416 Alberta Oil Peon
But it is not a WMD in its own right.
Programs were also prohibited under the 17 UNSC resolutions passed against Saddam. The undeclared existence of yellowcake still represented a material breach by Saddam.
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Salem Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:13:02am |
re: #421 Killian Bundy
We religious zealots get it.
/and your condescending attitude is boring as hell, more than you can even ungodly imagine
Yes, that "bored to death" thing seems to be going around.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:14:57am |
re: #428 Salem
Yes, that "bored to death" thing seems to be going around.
You get it too.
/kind of irritating, no?
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:14:59am |
re: #351 Noam Sayin'
Having dealt with Southerners on numerous occasions, I've come to learn that "y'all" means, "you" and/or your group. In the same conversation, I've heard the same southerner refer to a group of people as, "all, y'all" meaning, "the group to which I'm speaking."
Just my personal observation.
Ah, Noam. Sorry to be so picky atcha, but I think you are in serious need of an interpreter!
There is no "and/or" about it! Y'all is you and your group. Period. if you heard someone (who claims to be a southerner) say all y'all, they are very insecure and feel the need for redundancy to confirm their thoughts or they are damn yankees.
Simple.
I've heard Bostonians ask wheah'd'ya' pahk th' cahh, too. But I can still park one.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:16:48am |
re: #425 Killian Bundy
What about Iran?
Iran is a lot more worrisome. After all, Saddam has gone to meet his sturgeons.
Iran is clearly building enrichment facilities. They have been dealing with A.Q Khan, the father of the Pak A-bomb. Iran has the wherewithal, they have the ability, and they have the intent. What's worse, they have that Mahdist bee in their bonnets for bringing on the final battle to cause the re-emergence of the 12th imam from the holy (haaach, ptui) well.
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DesertSage Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:18:00am |
re: #401 Salem
How would people who argue for science best avoid being offensive to religion? And could the religious try to make it easier by not asking the same questions all the time? Why are the defenders of I.D., in particular, always asking questions? Because they only have one answer: God did it. It's terribly difficult to argue with that premise without resorting to snarkiness. After awhile of answering the same questions, we just want to make sure they are paying attention.
I can't endorse that which I don't believe in for the sake of civil debate alone.
OK, heres where you start, and this is being respectful. First, stop lumping all creationists together. Some people, even a lot of respected scientists, believe in theological creation. That's a legitimate position. They can still practice science the same way as anyone else, and still come to the same conclusions as any other scientist.
When you ridicule people who believe in theological creation as the same type of creationist as the ID'rs, then that's where the hard feelings start.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:19:28am |
re: #430 LeePro
Ah, Noam. Sorry to be so picky atcha, but I think you are in serious need of an interpreter!
There is no "and/or" about it! Y'all is you and your group. Period. if you heard someone (who claims to be a southerner) say all y'all, they are very insecure and feel the need for redundancy to confirm their thoughts or they are damn yankees.
Simple.
I've heard Bostonians ask wheah'd'ya' pahk th' cahh, too. But I can still park one.
They way I'm used to hearing it, "y'all" is definitely plural, and "all y'all" is emphatically inclusive--as in "Every single solitary sorry bas&^%$ in this organization had better be out front in one minute"--that's where you might see an "all y'all" slip in.
.02
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:19:39am |
re: #427 Athos
Programs were also prohibited under the 17 UNSC resolutions passed against Saddam. The undeclared existence of yellowcake still represented a material breach by Saddam.
Not disputing that. Just trying to point out that, by simply having the yellowcake, that Saddam was not coming around the clubhouse turn in the race to get a nuke warhead.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:21:02am |
re: #433 DesertSage
OK, heres where you start, and this is being respectful. First, stop lumping all creationists together. Some people, even a lot of respected scientists, believe in theological creation. That's a legitimate position. They can still practice science the same way as anyone else, and still come to the same conclusions as any other scientist.
When you ridicule people who believe in theological creation as the same type of creationist as the ID'rs, then that's where the hard feelings start.
I agree 100%. Well said.
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:21:08am |
re: #423 BlueCanuck
Oh, yeah, Old Fort York. I love teasing my now fellow Americans that the burning of DC was simple retribution... Last trip, the main touring I did was a Duck tour, the pilgrimage to the Hockey Hall of Fame, and tea at the Royal York, lunch on the CN Tower. The Duck tour covered the Island / Ontario Place. Didn't get out to the Fort that time. Laughed at how my daughter and cousins wouldn't get on the plexiglass floor tiles on the CN Tower...
So, the Gardens are basically empty? I would have thought that they would have used it for the junior or school games. I remember my father being so ticked off after years on the waiting list finally getting an option for season tickets...but we were living in NYC area at the time. He still tried to talk my Mum into the season tickets...it's not that far (8 hour drive) he said... I saw many a game there. Haven't been to the AC Centre yet.
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laZardo Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:21:34am |
re: #432 Alberta Oil Peon
Right now, I suspect they'll actually build the first one for a "just-in-case" defense. The rest they can launch or deploy wherever they like, as it were...
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:23:12am |
re: #432 Alberta Oil Peon
Iran is clearly building enrichment facilities.
Alberta, they are already USING said built and completed 'enrichment facilities', and have bragged that they're enriching Uranium and Plutonium in their centrifuges!
They have intent, and they're a few weeks from having enough raw material for fission-explosive devices... I'm hedging here, only inasmuch as they may not be able to affix their device atop a missile, but even driving it into Israel in a deuce-and-a-half would cause horrendous death & destruction in the Holy Land!
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:23:18am |
re: #432 Alberta Oil Peon
Iran is a lot more worrisome. After all, Saddam has gone to meet his sturgeons.
Iran is clearly building enrichment facilities. They have been dealing with A.Q Khan, the father of the Pak A-bomb. Iran has the wherewithal, they have the ability, and they have the intent. What's worse, they have that Mahdist bee in their bonnets for bringing on the final battle to cause the re-emergence of the 12th imam from the holy (haaach, ptui) well.
/will 4000+ risk free specific aimpoints bring peace?
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:23:21am |
re: #435 Alberta Oil Peon
Not disputing that. Just trying to point out that, by simply having the yellowcake, that Saddam was not coming around the clubhouse turn in the race to get a nuke warhead.
Oh, so just an enrichment program short? Given his history, he was far too much a risk to let exist in a post 9/11 world. His violations only provided more fodder to the argument.
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redc1c4 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:25:24am |
re: #338 NY Nana
'At least it's a dry heat'...every single one of my family members who live in LA and environs always say that...
I'll pass! I hope the damned fires can be put under control..scary.
until the next batch start up... we're gonna burn all summer until (if) the rains come in the fall...
dry heats bad enough, but every so often it gets humid & hot here... that *really* sucks.
it's late, and i just got done with the fruit cup, so i'll wish all y'all a good night.
L8r!
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:26:28am |
re: #439 Neo Con since 9-11
Florence, MY'ALL... that's kewl! :D
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:28:09am |
re: #386 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hi {LeePro).
Hi {PBJ}!
Been missin' ya'!
: : : tryin' to catch up! still stuck wayyy upthread! : : :
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:30:32am |
re: #445 LeePro
Hi Lee
I didn't read the whole thread so I hope I'm not in trouble for saying Y'all.
Missing you too.
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:31:05am |
re: #432 Alberta Oil Peon
The UN / IAEA also confirmed in the mid-90's Saddam was far closer to getting a weapon than they had thought. Of course, with pinheads like Blix and al-Baradi, they actually thought that not only were other nations entitled to join the nuclear club, but that doing so would bring 'peace' since they assumed everyone would willingly sign onto MAD as their defining strategy.
It's hard to sign onto MAD when a) you think that you can out attrite the enemy or b) when death is a promotion.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:31:35am |
re: #437 Athos
A&P or Dominion are trying to turn the Gardens into a grocery store. With all the condos going up in the area it seemed like a good idea. With regards to the rink, the corporation that owns the Leafs has a clause that the rink can't be used for ANYTHING PERIOD! That has caused a lot of dissent amongst fans and other people. So the monument to the glory days of the Toronto Maple Leafs sits mouldering and in desolation now. Like the past 41 years of the Leafs themselves. ;)
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:32:20am |
re: #442 Athos
Oh, so just an enrichment program short? Given his history, he was far too much a risk to let exist in a post 9/11 world. His violations only provided more fodder to the argument.
No argument from me on that score. I'm delighted the bastard is dead. But he was nowhere near as far along in his nuke ambitions as the Iranians are, right now.
I'm no moonbat trying to prove that the war against Iraq was illegal, or based upon a lie. It was righteous, and justified, and legal. The WMDs he did have were poison gases. And that's bad enough. Given enough time, I have no doubt he would have been able to manufacture nuclear weapons. But his clock got stopped.
In Natanz, the clock is ticking.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:33:08am |
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:33:47am |
re: #443 redc1c4
Ah nuts, time to get fresh supplies for when littleoldlady shows up. I am going to say it again. Just leave the fixings for doctoring on the buffet.
/sheesh.
//some of us like it doctored properly by littleoldlady. ;)
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:34:07am |
re: #408 BlueCanuck
Ahh, that helps. The show I saw used the scrapings of sausage. But if you make any gravy you need some starch. :)
Yep. Flour = Bisquick™
Same as for the bisquits!
;D
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:35:52am |
re: #410 gop_patriot
I think he's in Atlanta, is he from So. Cal originally?
born July 30, 1962 in Los Angeles, California, United States
;D
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:36:05am |
re: #444 Karridine
Mornin ta all'y'all o'er thar in Bangkok
/my spell check jus done an sploded
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laZardo Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:36:34am |
re: #444 Karridine
G'd afternoon from across the So Chin. (;
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POL_CAT12 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:38:05am |
Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions. — G. K. Chesterton
I think bigotry is best defined as a man with one opinion.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:38:09am |
Well I am going to step out for a bit, have to do some stuff that I have been neglecting badly. :p
Be back in time for fruitcup at least.
/and I will be lurking in case that reprobate red pops back up.
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Flavia Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:40:03am |
Bigotry can be accurately defined as the anger of a an individual who has no brains. Or anything else going for him/her.
(Seriously, I have always found that bigots really hate themselves, but the truth is so ugly/scary that they cannot deal with it & turn it outward)
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:40:04am |
re: #420 MajorPribluda
So which type was General Sherman?
[ducks]
Sherman was a murderin' fuckin' weinie!
Should be easy for you to recognize.
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Mel Lono Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:40:16am |
re: #439 Neo Con since 9-11
Morning 'y'all
made my day... er night NC. Did the same to my own neon sign when we changed business names. $5,000 for a new sign, $300 to remove the first part. Sign just said "Plastics" afterward and we became known as The Plastics Place.
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:42:50am |
re: #449 BlueCanuck
It's been 41? Yeah you're right.
The building has far too much history to turn into something cheap. I even felt sad when the old Forum in Montreal went and I hate the Habs.
But on the other hand, one consistency in the last 40+ has been the disappointing management.
Speaking of the 67 team... I've met George Armstrong a couple of times as well Davie Keon. Keon was this kid's favorite with Bower and Sawchuck tied for 2nd. About 20 years ago, in my younger days, I was asked by a buddy who played NHL to help fill out the roster for a charity game that included a bunch of NHL players vs Hollywood types. We had 1 practice. Gordie Howe was on the alumni / charity team and I showed up wearing a Keon Leaf jersey to just bust on him...asking him for an autograph for my Mum who was a big Howe fan. He busted my a$$ for wearing that jersey. I ended up centering the line for Gordie. Got 2 goals that game, one off of a shot from Gordie that deflected off my a$$ into the net. But in the end, a real classy guy like a lot of the old timers.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:44:32am |
re: #434 MajorPribluda
They way I'm used to hearing it, "y'all" is definitely plural, and "all y'all" is emphatically inclusive--as in "Every single solitary sorry bas&^%$ in this organization had better be out front in one minute"--that's where you might see an "all y'all" slip in.
.02
2¢? You could say that.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:46:28am |
re: #458 BlueCanuck
I'm curious about what kind of fruitcup Red is brewing up over at his place.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:47:05am |
re: #461 Mel Lono
$5,000 for a new sign, $300 to remove the first part.
Down home southern... humor priceless.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:47:25am |
re: #439 Neo Con since 9-11
Morning 'y'all
Good one!
But, please... just one ' if you don't mind.
..spelling is important!
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DesertSage Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:48:18am |
re: #464 Pvt Bin Jammin
I'm curious about what kind of fruitcup Red is brewing up over at his place.
Red always spikes the fruitcups.
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Tamron Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:48:28am |
Heidi, y'all sumbitches! (Lee, that's a garon-damn-teed co-ed greeting)
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:49:19am |
re: #447 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hi Lee
I didn't read the whole thread so I hope I'm not in trouble for saying Y'all.
Missing you too.
LOL!
just so you use the proper spelling and usage.
Hahaha
;D
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:49:24am |
re: #450 Alberta Oil Peon
I'll disagree with you in this respect...once you've crossed a couple of milestones, getting a nuke isn't all that hard. The triggering process and enriched uranium are the tickets. What took billions of dollars and years in the 1940's is far easier today. Our humint in Iraq and now in Iran is pitiful. We don't know a lot of what we would like or need to know.
So, where does one give the benefit of doubt in a case like this?
Do we hope that Iran has a fizzle like DPRK? Or do we assume that they will not like Pakistan (all with the same father - Khan)? Can we afford to give either the benefit of the doubt or debate if proliferation is good?
Saddam had the ability to resume just where he left off in 1992-95 if the sanctions and the attention faded any further than it did. History would have been very different if he had the benefit of the doubt...and will be if we continue to give any rogue state the benefit of the doubt. Our policy should be that this is a very closed club...current members only and if you aren't a current member, tough sh&*.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:50:08am |
re: #456 laZardo#455 Neo-Con
G'd afternoon from across the So Chin. (;
Greetings to all y'all youse... you's da best!
***
Falling back to primitive English for the nonce, Bangkok today is shrouded in thick clouds, cool but no sunshine to dry wifey's wash...
Thai scientists digging in a Thai coal-mine-tip found fossil evidence of a new species of tarsier-lemur... (true)
They're naming it "D. Signium Intelligentsia" (false) :D
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gop_patriot Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:50:35am |
re: #454 LeePro
born July 30, 1962 in Los Angeles, California, United States
;D
Well I'll be.
/But, he also went to U of GA, and he's a member of the Johnson Ferry Baptist Church in Marietta, Georgia. That's gotta count for something! ROFLOL!
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:51:34am |
re: #452 BlueCanuck
Ah nuts, time to get fresh supplies for when littleoldlady shows up. I am going to say it again. Just leave the fixings for doctoring on the buffet.
/sheesh.
//some of us like it doctored properly by littleoldlady. ;)
Not to worry, Blue. Remember! LoL brings her own fruitcups with her! Red's messin' with the decoys!
;D
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:52:25am |
re: #467 DesertSage
Red always spikes the fruitcups.
/I never would have dreamed!
Fri., Red, War Council. Oohrah!
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:52:38am |
re: #466 LeePro
Good one!
But, please... just one ' if you don't mind...spelling is important!
Y'all is right I put an extra ' in there.
but you put an extra "g" in there. It's spellin' not spelling.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:54:25am |
re: #468 Tamron
Heidi, y'all sumbitches! (Lee, that's a garon-damn-teed co-ed greeting)
Cool!
Where are you?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:56:31am |
re: #469 LeePro
I garum-gan-tee that I attempted to use the right spelling/usage!
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:58:50am |
re: #472 gop_patriot
Well I'll be.
/But, he also went to U of GA, and he's a member of the Johnson Ferry Baptist Church in Marietta, Georgia. That's gotta count for something! ROFLOL!
Well shit! He's also an Apple/Mac guy!
I'll have to tell you some time about my deep dislike for Atlanta...
a whole 'nother story.
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Tamron Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:58:52am |
Southern Alaska, y'all! One-time home of more damn-rebels than you could shake a stick at, back in the Pipeline days.
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laZardo Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:59:36am |
Wow, these Southerners are truly a fascinating people! Who knew there was so much that Americans cooped up in their houses with reality TV could learn from them!
/multiculti mode off
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:01:41am |
re: #479 Tamron
I just recently came home from a cruise to southwestern Alaska. Loved it!
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Tamron Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:02:45am |
Yup. I came up here to visit, 41 years ago.
Never left.
.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:03:24am |
re: #475 Neo Con since 9-11
Y'all is right I put an extra ' in there.
but you put an extra "g" in there. It's spellin' not spelling.
You're right about the spellin', except when you're talking about how important it is!
And don't call me "y'all" 'cuz there's only one of me!
And don't ever say y'all IS! ! !
Thank ya' kindly.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:03:34am |
re: #480 laZardo
Wow, these Southerners are truly a fascinating people! Who knew there was so much that Americans cooped up in their houses with reality TV could learn from them!
/multiculti mode off
/damn, a proud idiot, congratulations
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:04:10am |
re: #477 Pvt Bin Jammin
I garum-gan-tee that I attempted to use the right spelling/usage!
LOL!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:06:48am |
re: #485 LeePro
I'd better get out of here, tomorrow comes early, I garum-dam-tee.
Love all of you lizards.
Loved Alaska, too.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:07:04am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:08:04am |
re: #470 Athos
I'll disagree with you in this respect...once you've crossed a couple of milestones, getting a nuke isn't all that hard. The triggering process and enriched uranium are the tickets. What took billions of dollars and years in the 1940's is far easier today. Our humint in Iraq and now in Iran is pitiful. We don't know a lot of what we would like or need to know.
So, where does one give the benefit of doubt in a case like this?
Do we hope that Iran has a fizzle like DPRK? Or do we assume that they will not like Pakistan (all with the same father - Khan)? Can we afford to give either the benefit of the doubt or debate if proliferation is good?
Saddam had the ability to resume just where he left off in 1992-95 if the sanctions and the attention faded any further than it did. History would have been very different if he had the benefit of the doubt...and will be if we continue to give any rogue state the benefit of the doubt. Our policy should be that this is a very closed club...current members only and if you aren't a current member, tough sh&*.
Agreed it should be a closed club.
Yes, it is easier today, because a would-be nuclear power knows it can be done, and the technology is no longer a huge secret. Obviously, it's not a slam-dunk, either, witness the Nork's fizzle.
I believe Saddam was more of a rational actor than are Dinnerjacket and the ayatollahs. Saddam was looking out for #1, and he was probably smart enough to know that lobbing a nuke at Israel would get #1 very, very deep in #2. ( Although I wouldn't put it past him to slip a warhead to some terrorists, if he thought he could maintain deniability.)
The Iranian leadership, OTOH, positively welcomes the deluge of #2, because it is supposed to usher in the re-emergence of the 12th Imam. Mutually-assured destruction only works if your opponent is afraid of being destroyed.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:08:10am |
re: #485 LeePro
LOL!I garum-gan-tee that I attempted to use the right spelling/usage!
What is a 'right spelling sausage'?
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gop_patriot Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:08:29am |
Holy crap, a homicide bomber in Kabul near the Indian Embassy -
KABUL, Afghanistan — A homicide car bomb exploded near the Indian Embassy in central Kabul early Monday, killing 28 people and wounding 141, officials said.
They've now updated it to 41 killed.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:08:49am |
re: #486 Pvt Bin Jammin
Love to see yez here, but WHY'D you come BACK? Alaska is SO BEAUTIFUL!
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:09:39am |
re: #483 LeePro
You're right about the spellin', except when you're talking about how important it is!
And don't call me "y'all" 'cuz there's only one of me!
And don't ever say y'all IS! ! !Thank ya' kindly.
I t'ain't ever gonna call one person Y'all but out here in Appalachia when we use the term "y'all" we are referring you and mom 'n' them
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:09:59am |
re: #490 Karridine
What is a 'right spelling sausage'?
Goes hand-in-hand with readin'.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:10:57am |
re: #490 Karridine
I didn't say anything about no "stinking sausages". LOL
G'nite Karridine.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:15:20am |
re: #495 LeePro
Right readin' sausages, and
right-handed sausages, and
left-handed Bin Jammin, and
nightly Knight, y'all...
/I ain't leavin' franowr
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:16:00am |
re: #492 gop_patriot
Holy crap, a homicide bomber in Kabul near the Indian Embassy -
They've now updated it to 41 killed.
I'm glad to see Fox News using the term "homicide bomber".
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:16:38am |
re: #494 Neo Con since 9-11
I t'ain't ever gonna call one person Y'all but out here in Appalachia when we use the term "y'all" we are referring you and mom 'n' them
Appalachia, hunh.
Hmmm. Are you a transplant from...say...north of the Mason-Dixon Line?
Nobody down here says "t'ain't" (it ain't) instead of ain't. If you say "I t'ain't" what you're really saying is "I it ain't."
And, while I'm at it, t'ain't "mom 'n' them"... It's "yo mama 'n' them"
harumph!
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Athos Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:16:39am |
re: #488 Alberta Oil Peon
While I agree with more of your post than not, I do think that your underestimate Saddam's ability and willingness to project force when and where he wanted. With the exception of being evicted from his rape of Kuwait, the West and the UN never really stood up to him until March 2003. So given that, what were the repercussions for any real action.
The vote to authorize force in 1991 was far closer than in 2002 - simply because there is a group here in the US and in the US government (and matched in the civilian population as well as in Europe) that felt appeasement was a far better course of action.
You do touch on the $64 question that has to be considered in any responsible Western government's consideration...what of using non-state proxies to do the dirty work while maintaining plausible deniability at the State level? How does one punish this? How does one stop these actions without being seen as an aggressor against the 'innocent' foreign state.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:16:41am |
re: #497 DesertSage
...and if we had eggs, we could have eggs and sausages.
Nite lizards, it is way past my bedtime and too early for the fruitcup.
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gop_patriot Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:21:23am |
re: #500 Alberta Oil Peon
I'm glad to see Fox News using the term "homicide bomber".
Me too.
/rather than "militant", or "insurgent" UGH
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:21:35am |
re: #501 LeePro
You're correct I'm a transplant but I've been here 25 years. In my defense, I was going more for humor than accuracy.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:29:08am |
re: #502 Athos
While I agree with more of your post than not, I do think that your underestimate Saddam's ability and willingness to project force when and where he wanted. With the exception of being evicted from his rape of Kuwait, the West and the UN never really stood up to him until March 2003. So given that, what were the repercussions for any real action.
The vote to authorize force in 1991 was far closer than in 2002 - simply because there is a group here in the US and in the US government (and matched in the civilian population as well as in Europe) that felt appeasement was a far better course of action.
You do touch on the $64 question that has to be considered in any responsible Western government's consideration...what of using non-state proxies to do the dirty work while maintaining plausible deniability at the State level? How does one punish this? How does one stop these actions without being seen as an aggressor against the 'innocent' foreign state.
Athos, we are pretty close on these things. I agree appeasement is a bad policy. It always is.
Saddam could project force against the neighboring countries, whose militaries were more or less comparable. His army and air force were near-useless against the USA, and likely would have been handily defeated by Israel, had he been so foolish as to attack that nation.
One of the best ways to prevent non-state actors from getting their hands on nukes is to limit the number of states that have nukes. If Iran gets nukes, I expect they might try to slip one or two to Hezbollah. Pakistan is also worrying, should the government there fall to the radical islamists. I hope Musharraf and co. have a contingency plan in place.
Anyhow, it's getting late for me, and I must call it a night. All the best to all Lizards.
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Mel Lono Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:34:23am |
re: #503 Killian Bundy
/outdoors, in the snow
Thanks. Sent that one to my 16 yr old son, the classic rock fan.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:36:44am |
re: #508 Neo Con since 9-11
You're correct I'm a transplant but I've been here 25 years. In my defense, I was going more for humor than accuracy.
You succeeded, then!
heehee
Are you in VA? NC? TN?
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Mel Lono Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:38:32am |
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:39:50am |
re: #513 Mel Lono
That will depend on who becomes the President.
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Tamron Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:42:51am |
re: #487 LeePro
Well, hot dayum! ! ! Where'd you move up there from?
("Is that a loaded question? Is this Southern gal just asking in order to pigeon-hole me as just another lowly non-Southerner? Let's test her and find out if she's just another one of those ignorant, prejudiced 'damn Easterners'," he muttered to himself.)
Born in Minnesota, but I grew up the Deep South of southern Oregon, down by the California border.
Spent a year in Tennessee getting USN electronics training, was stationed in Japan and occasionally in 'Nam for the next 3 years, and then when I got out I moved straight up to the wilds of Alaska's DEW-Line radar sites. Worked all over Alaska since then, including the big pipeline.
Re: Southern Grammar, I've personally -- just me, singular -- been referred to as Y'ALL many times, first in the genuine South when I lived in Tennessee and then by the Southern construction workers who worked on the Pipeline, to know better than to get suckered into ANY strict grammar rules when it comes to speaking with a southern accent or drawl.
Y'all ain't a'gonna sucker me into no strict grammar game, Swate Thang, 'cause I suspect that not all southerners have the education that you do, and I made a lot of friends whose literacy level wasn't up to yours but I still like them and respect them and prefer to talk that'a'way if'n I do so choose, so there!
I really do like the South, the genuine folk who live there, and their overall attitude. Hell, I think I learned my first really genuine Rebel Yell the first time my flight crew narrowly avoided being shot down by a MiG, just off North VietNam in 1966.
:-)
.
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Mel Lono Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:45:39am |
re: #514 little blessing
That will depend on who becomes the President.
True, but the proof is in the planning.
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:52:12am |
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Had me some bad dreams that woke me way too early and so here I am posting a bit before I get ready to go to work.
*yawn*
What snoo?
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:55:55am |
re: #515 Tamron
Great post, Tamron. And you're right. I am one of the edjumacated southern gals, and yes I know my geography (unlike today's young'uns).
Spent a year in Tennessee getting USN electronics training
You talking about the U.S. Naval Base at Millington (once glorious but now all but defunct)? That's just a few miles north of me.
Thanks for the compliments on my heritage.
For a yankee, you're ok.
;D
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:57:33am |
{littleoldlady}
Will wait 3 more minutes, just for you!
;D
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:04am |
LEE! :-)
Thanks for the yummy cookies yesterday!
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:16am |
re: #519 littleoldlady
MISS TRIXIE!? HI! :-)
Hiya, toots! *mwah*
So this is what it's like on the early, early, early EARLY morning thread before we DTers take the shift change? :D
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Ma Sands Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:18am |
Hullo, littleoldlady. :)
Is the dawn pretty, in your part of the country, this morning? :)
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:49am |
re: #516 Mel Lono
True, but the proof is in the planning.
Team Obama can't even plan a Democratic Convention, HOW do they think they can organize a national economy?
/unfair comparison?
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laZardo Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:54am |
Gonna duck out for a bit to "chill" per realwest's advice. Cheers.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:59:19am |
Ahhh, just in time for the fruitcup. Good morning Miss Trixie.
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:00:04am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:00:37am |
Hi Lol!
/gosh you've got lots of friends!
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:00:47am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:00:48am |
re: #518 hack
i work the third trick, hence i read and post.
/three tricks is [expletive deleted] in Bridge
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Mel Lono Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:01:44am |
re: #528 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Got any watermelon?
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Ma Sands Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:02:05am |
Ah! That's strange...aren't you east? Isn't it 5 a.m. ...? Confused, here! :)
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:02:07am |
re: #527 BlueCanuck
Ahhh, just in time for the fruitcup. Good morning Miss Trixie.
Good morning, luv. Don't have much opportunity to talk to you as you're usually gone by the time I get here.
Like two sheeps in the night.
:D
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:02:18am |
re: #530 littleoldlady
Just starting to get the first blush here. Looks like it's going to be another great day. Unfortunately I have to get to bed early today. At least I got to enjoy a lot yesterday.
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:02:37am |
re: #522 littleoldlady
You're very welcome! Got a little something to go with the fruitcups this morning, too!
Hang on...
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:02:56am |
re: #534 Miss Trixie
LOL, another fan from the day shift? ;)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:04:17am |
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:05:16am |
re: #512 LeePro
Adams/Brown county corner of Ohio. Admittedly just the foot hills of the Appalachians. and thank you Miss
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:05:34am |
Yay! I can actually get some FRESH fruitcup - it's usually crusty and fruit-fly infested by the time I arrive due to certain lizards with questionable hygiene habits double-dipping with their soupspoons.
:D
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LeePro Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:05:38am |
Gotta go to bed, but here's a little something to go with LoL's fruitcups.
I've ordered up a slew of these for y'all. Enjoy! But remember... only butter and salt, a little pepper if you like. But don't insult this fit-for-kings dish with milk and sugar!
G'nite y'all!
Love ya { { {Lizards} } }
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Mel Lono Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:06:09am |
re: #538 littleoldlady
/so you've heard that watermelon is the new Viagra? ;-)
Yep. Just trying to figure out if it's better to go seedless or not!
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:07:13am |
re: #538 littleoldlady
/so you've heard that watermelon is the new Viagra? ;-)
Ah. That explains my neighbor's cucumbers.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:07:16am |
re: #541 LeePro
Thanks for the polenta, uh I mean grits, {LeePro}. Have a good day and sleep.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:08:04am |
re: #540 Miss Trixie
Yay! I can actually get some FRESH fruitcup - it's usually crusty and fruit-fly infested by the time I arrive due to certain lizards with questionable hygiene habits double-dipping with their soupspoons.
:D
Strange, me and Red usually sneak so much gin into the fruit cup that no fly would come near it.
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:08:35am |
re: #533 Ma Sands
I'm very East, yes. Sunrise at 5:40. :-)
/starting to lighten up.
//almost time to chase the deer away from the apple trees
///too much like exercise... ;-)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:09:15am |
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:10:12am |
The sun's just peeping over my neighbor's roof, there's a Cardinal yelling his fool head off from the point of the tallest tree and it looks like it's going to be a beeeYOOOtiful day.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:11:47am |
re: #546 littleoldlady
I had a present all ready to give to you and your husband and MNT on 4th of July morning...were you on vacation? :)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:13:40am |
re: #550 Ma Sands
We got in late Thursday night from a wedding. House full of people sleeping here.
/I was whooped so I guess I overslept
//PRESENT? For moi? ;-)
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Neo Con since 9-11 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:13:56am |
Miss Trixie, may i ask? have you ever called Cinci your home town? I only ask because I was friends with a Trixie in this corner of the country
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:14:28am |
Just enough time for another post before I shower up and prepare for work. See yez in a while.
:)
{realwest} When you show up - here's a nice big
*smooochie* for ya.
Later, taters.
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:16:42am |
re: #552 Neo Con since 9-11
Miss Trixie, may i ask? have you ever called Cinci your home town? I only ask because I was friends with a Trixie in this corner of the country
What's Cinci? Cincincatti? No - I'm an Alberta girl (Canada's Texas) living in Ottawa. There must be a coink-dink somewhere, tho.
Now I really must run.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:16:59am |
re: #551 littleoldlady
Yeah...it's a little late for it this year...but, if you want to "keep" it for NEXT year...or, on the left side, there's stuff for other special days of the year, too...if you see a little "notification" pop up, just click "okay", and the whole beautiful treasure trove will open up! :)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:18:27am |
re: #556 Ma Sands
WOW! The MOTHERLODE! Thank you very much, Ma! :-)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:19:40am |
re: #554 little blessing
little blessing! :-)
I think Miguel has been...you know...sleeping. ;-)
/how's by you?
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Ma Sands Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:20:32am |
re: #557 littleoldlady
I hope it is something I discovered...and not something everybody knew about anyway... :)
'Night.
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:20:52am |
re: #558 littleoldlady
All is well. Thinking of becoming an citizen of Australia.
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:21:58am |
re: #560 little blessing
All is well. Thinking of becoming an citizen of Australia.
Not until after November...
/VOTE FIRST!
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:23:57am |
re: #561 littleoldlady
I don't have to give up my American citizenship. I'll be a dual citizen. That won't disqualify me from voting, will it?
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:26:53am |
re: #564 little blessing
I don't think so.
/I don't know for sure, but I think it works that way with dual Israeli/US citizenship.
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gop_patriot Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:34:08am |
Cool, fruitcup! Glad I looked back here before getting offline. Thanks, littleoldlady. :D
Heading to bed, talk to y'all later!
/think I'll make grits for breakfast...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:35:11am |
Can insane new kitten Bill haz Cheezburger?
/Bob's tail is the new toy and isn't safe, 24/7, kitten chew toy
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:39:48am |
re: #568 Killian Bundy
What a cutie, Killian!
/we ALMOST got another cat this weekend
//Luckily, the one MNT picked out had been adopted already by the time we got to the pound...
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:44:30am |
re: #561 littleoldlady
Not until after November...
/VOTE FIRST!
I'll vote first, then seeking refuge in New Zealand if the moon bats win...
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:46:45am |
re: #570 Dustyvet
Dustyvet! :-)
Really? I got the impression it wasn't much better there.
/moonbatwise
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:50:12am |
re: #571 littleoldlady
Dustyvet! :-)
Really? I got the impression it wasn't much better there.
/moonbatwise
So much for that idea...:)
Rechecking map of the pacific...
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:51:15am |
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:52:35am |
re: #571 littleoldlady
Where in the world are there no moonbats?
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:55:04am |
re: #574 little blessing
Where in the world are there no moonbats?
LGF :-)
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Clemente Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:56:55am |
re: #509 Alberta Oil Peon
IfWhen Iran gets nukes...
Via the Daily Telegraph, Iran's back in the business of building higher-efficiency centrifuges -
Iran has resumed A-bomb project, says West
I'm sure the IAEA is all over this, ready to leap into action.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:59:15am |
re: #576 Clemente
I'm sure the IAEA is all over this, ready to leap into action.
Ready to leap into action with an Acme: Certified Sternly-Worded Letter!
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:00:38am |
re: #577 Karridine
Ready to leap into action with an Acme: Certified Sternly-Worded Letter!
and maybe a dirty look?
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:03:22am |
re: #578 Dustyvet
and maybe a dirty look?
The Wile E Coyote Fan Club
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:03:27am |
re: #574 little blessing
I think there's a mathematical formula that can be applied to determine livability:
Population - moonbats ÷ cluex42
/something like that
//tfk mode off
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:05:28am |
MajorPribluda! :-)
Clemente! :-)
Karridine! :-)
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Clemente Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:08:48am |
re: #578 Dustyvet
re: #577 KarridineReady to leap into action with an Acme: Certified Sternly-Worded Letter!
and maybe a dirty look?
I doubt that; maybe a sullen grumble and a heavy sigh, but more likely a synchronized prostration toward Tehran and a voice-vote nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Clemente Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:11:58am |
LOL! The most charming of all night lizards! :)
/snatches up one of the few remaining fruit cups...
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:12:27am |
re: #582 Clemente
I doubt that; maybe a sullen grumble and a heavy sigh, but more likely a synchronized prostration toward Tehran and a voice-vote nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Agreed...:(
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:21:59am |
Meh. Work.
/four letter word.
Good day, ALL!™
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Luigi Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:22:15am |
Apparently Ralph Nader got six percent on a new CNN poll. This is undoubtedly the fruits of Obama's incessant and increasingly cynical flipflops.
With six percent in their own poll, CNN gave Nader some airtime. I love how the reporter adopts the line that Obama's unconscionable lying is an acceptable and expected political strategy:
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
I'm off to work. June has come and gone and that means I may have finished paying my taxes for the year.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:23:09am |
re: #585 littleoldlady
That's why red censors it. And speaking of that vile creation. My duties just got real nasty. See you all tomorrow as well.
/engages full lurk mode.
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:24:13am |
Bye Littleoldlady!
Bye Luigi!
Bye Blue! By the way, I was very impressed yesterday. All that military talk...
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:26:26am |
re: #588 little blessing
Bye Littleoldlady!
Bye Luigi!
Bye Blue! By the way, I was very impressed yesterday. All that military talk...
We'll teach you close order drill next week...:)
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:27:48am |
re: #588 little blessing
/delurks
Thank you. It was a long time ago in a country far, far, away. ;)
/not really, haven't changed locales really.
//relurks.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:31:22am |
re: #582 Clemente
Sullen look? You mean "The Old Hairy Eyeball of Sternness"?
That and "The Dreaded Ethereal Wrist-Slap of Naughtiness!"
The UN and its two-faced collaborative investigators really HATE all who live in the Holy Land, and WANT Iran to 'wipe them from the face of the Earth', to quote Ahmadinnerjacket
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:32:59am |
re: #592 Karridine
And what will they do when the weapons used to obliterate Israel are then pointed at them?
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:34:29am |
Go?d morning all. Can Monday actually be a good morning?
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Tamron Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:35:27am |
Athos & Alberta Oil Peon:
Interesting discussion. However, have you considered the possibility that Iran already has one or more working nukes in their possession, purchased on the Russian black market sometime during the past 10 years or so? If they do, and it's a well-kept secret, then that opens up a LOT more options on their part.
It could be that the subject that you're discussing, is just part of the old 'pea under the walnut shell' game.
About 4 years ago I read an interesting fiction book that had been written by a retired US Army officer, and here's the short version of the plot:
Since Iran is a member of OPEC, then there's a lot of oil freighter traffic coming and going to Iranian ports. Well, one certain freighter docked in Iran and took on a full load of crude oil, but unbeknownst to anyone but the captain and two crewmembers, it also took on a large radioactive package that was lowered 50 feet down to the bottom of one of the holds that was full of crude oil. The ship departed Iran, made one diversionary stop, and then steamed across the Atlantic and directly into New York Harbor. You can guess the rest of the story.
As I recall, in the book there were actually half a dozen such freighters, coordinated to simultaneously attack both the East and West coast of the US (New York, Miami, LA, San Francisco and Seattle), as well as Israel. I don't remember the gory details, but the story was quite believable, somewhat like reading a Tom Clancy novel.
Would Mahmoud Ahmadinejad attempt such a dastardly act? Of course he would. He's already stated that the destruction of the "Great Satan" is one of his goals. That's what criminally psychotic minds DO.
Check out this disturbing IRANIAN MILITARY PARADE for a better glimpse of what is on Iran's collective mind.
I personally feel that one of the main deterrents that's keeping Iran from doing this, is their MidEast peers who don't want to live under a radioactive cloud and who also don't want to lose Medina and Mecca if Israel gets seriously wounded and becomes genuinely pissed-off. Israel is rumored to have approx. 40 tactical nukes in their possession, and if they saw a mushroom cloud close-up, then what's to stop them from fully using what defenses they have left?
.
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Dustyvet Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:35:38am |
re: #591 little blessing
OY!
/lol mode off
I think you'll enjoy this...:)
USMC Silent Drill Platoon
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:36:41am |
re: #593 little blessing
A moot and empty question, because Israel (and America) will never let Iran GET the nuclear/atomic Death Triggers, Lil!
Those are reserved for Responsible Nations and for
Insane Nations That Want To Live!
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:38:41am |
re: #596 Tamron
Eggs Ackley!
Israel KNOWS where the enemy lives... just as they KNOW where Israel is...
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:39:02am |
re: #595 little blessing
It depends who you spend it with! ;)
Makes perfect sense. I will spend Maoday with a mointain of work.
All things considered , not bad.
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:39:41am |
re: #597 Dustyvet
I've seen it before but it is always a pleasure to see it again!
Now those skills I'd be happy to learn.
/just make sure the gun isn't loaded
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:44:20am |
re: #598 Karridine
I'm not as positive as you. Olmert is trying to prolong his reign and has always hung on to foreign opinion as if it was a life saver. America is in limbo until the election and if Obama wins I doubt that he would support military action against Iran.
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:44:52am |
Whoops!, FNC is saying that the McCain campaign plans to use Obamas own words in ads. Turns out Barry did an audio version of 'Dreams of my Father"
He does the voice over & one thing that he says , that as a yout he enthusiastically did drugs to forget the World's folly's.He also mimics Reverend Wright, blaming all of the worlds problems on the "White Mans Greed." Humm
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:47:34am |
re: #15 Carridine
Misogyny is the anger of men who have no SELF-CONFIDENCE.
Misandry (IPA [mɪ.ˈsæn.dri]) is the hatred of men or boys, as opposed to misogyny, the hatred of women; or misanthropy, hatred of the human species. Misandry comes from misos (Greek μῖσος, "hatred") + andr-ia (Greek anér-andros, "man"). Those holding misandric beliefs can be of either sex.
the hatred of those who have no 'BATZIUM'
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:54:20am |
re: #581 littleoldlady
MajorPribluda! :-)
Clemente! :-)
Karridine! :-)
LoL!
Sorry for the delay--work is like that.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:59:31am |
re: #39 pegcity
you have just given a good dif. of the modern liberal/leftist. under truman the liberal did not hate america and the leftist was a different animal now they have mostly been combined to one animal.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:07:05am |
re: #602 little blessing
"...if Obama wins I doubt that he would support military action against Iran."
2008: November, elections plus 48 hours: Imaginary Conversation at the White House:
Mr Obama, sit down. Its been a while, and we have a lot to cover.
+ Thank you, Mr Bush.
There's a form before you, State Secrets Act. Sign it, and we'll get started with your briefing, Barack.
+Sign it? Well...
Either sign it, or you cannot LEARN what you need to know as president, Mr Obama. Its just a promise that you won't blab America's secrets to our enemies...
+(sigh!) [scritch-scribble]
All right. Now listen carefully. American carrier forces off the Straits of Hormuz are preparing right now to take out Iran's nuclear capability and-
+But I won't allow that, Bush! I-
YOU are NOT president YET, Obama! Now sit down, shut up, and get your mind focused! This ain't some game, Obama, this ain't no socialist Monday morning quarterbacking, this is REALITY! You better pray to God you and your 'advisors' pick up on this, because there's a test coming at you, EVERY DAY that YOU'RE President, Obama!
Oh, and now that you've signed that, and our secretary has taken it out, know that if you blab ONE WORD of this outside this office, I'll have you SHOT! I love America, and I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to protect her, until we can hand the reins of government to you, duly elected!
I am not a Republican in this office, Mister Obama, I am an American! And by God, I will give my heart and soul to protect America! You understand?
+Yes, Mr President.
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rightwinger3 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:09:07am |
re: #601 little blessing
I've seen it before but it is always a pleasure to see it again!
Now those skills I'd be happy to learn.
/just make sure the gun isn't loaded
little blessing, I attended one of their "tryout sessions" as an observer. It was around 1500 (3:00 PM). In July. Oh, and did I mention Yuma, AZ?
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:09:09am |
re: #604 yochanan
I was saying, "Those who do not trust themselves and their own masculinity fear women and their femininity."
And yes, as a bit of a linguist loving English, I appreciate and already knew of the Greek roots for those words, thanks Yo
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:10:44am |
the american 'skool' system is one of the worst for the hatred of maleness.
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:14:04am |
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:15:48am |
re: #608 Karridine
FRANKLY I would rather have a 3rd term of Bush than a 2ed term of Carter/obama's mama.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:23:07am |
re: #614 yochanan
A third term Bush is illegal, but I hear your heart, Yoch...
Frankly, I could see Bush doing exactly the same thing to Mr Squish McCain!
"Grow some backbone, John, THIS is for REAL!"
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:23:18am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone today?
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:29:16am |
re: #615 Karridine
i wish i could be a optimist but right now that doesn't seem realistic
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:35:19am |
re: #617 yochanan
I agree, Yoch. It IS unrealistic, and off the beaten path, and improbable...
So I won't hold my breath, BUT... George IS aware this is America, and these are his last hours in the limelight, so stranger things have happened...
/prayer might help
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:38:13am |
re: #619 Karridine
Hey, Hoops! Quiet morning. How you?
Yup.. it is quiet this morning..sucking down some coffee
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:39:32am |
Good morning all. Hope everyone had a great weekend.
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godfrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:41:06am |
Here's an example of an American military man: Maj. Brian Shul.
Here's an example of a man who wants to command the American military: Barack Hussein Obama.
I'm all for civilian command of the military, but I would like a civilian with a functional brain.
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eaglewingz08 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:41:44am |
Regarding the 550 Metric Tons of Yellowcake just removed to Canada, wasn't there a NYSlimes article or series of articles just before the 2004 Presidential Election claiming that all the yellowcake (from the non existent and phantom SH nuke program) at Tuwditha had vanished, was stolen, due to the criminal negligence of the Bush Administration?
If all of it had been stolen, where did this large amount of yellowcake come from?
If it wasn't stolen, then why isn't there a retraction from the NYSlimes?
Given that the new article states that this yellowcake was from the exact same place that the NYSlimes claims didn't have anymore of that same substance, did the local Iraqis track down the yellowcake and return it back to that facility in the intervening four years?
Isn't this news fit to print for the NYSlimes?
As for the WashComPost, they had a marvellous article on the Obamanation's supposed 'religious faith', never mentioning his muslim father, upbringing abroad where by his own admission he could recite perfectly in arabic the central tenets of islam, and which he claimed was the most beautiful sound in all the world (in a NYSlimes article just before he declared his candidacy). More relevant though is the memory hole (if I called it a black hole I would be accused of racism, no doubt) concerning his religious faith.
NOT ONE WORD ON REV WRIGHT. Surely a church that the Obamanation attended for twenty years is worthy of at least a sentence in the consideration of the Obamanation's 'faith'? Not so says the ComPost. Well then, surely the ComPost would at least name the church where the Obamanation practiced his religious faith for lo these many years? Again, No, says the WashComPost, such details are distractions to the new story that the Obamanation is putting out. Yesterday don't matter cause it's gone.
Whatever the Obamanation says today is all that matters. Whatever he said yesterday is a distraction. Whatever he says tomorrow, that's change. Hope is that the American people and John McCain are clueless.
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Ojoe Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:53:08am |
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Jul 7, 2008 4:56:10am |
re: #624 eaglewingz08
If it wasn't stolen, then why isn't there a retraction from the NYSlimes?
I think that question answers itself. NYT isn't interested in the truth, only in pressing a political agenda. And that's been true for a very long time.
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little blessing Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:00:19am |
Have a good one, Everybody!
May we all be blessed!
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:09:47am |
re: #626 Ojoe
Did you see my #608, above, Ojoe?
There IS a period of time between election and inauguration, between "I Will Be Pres" and "I Am Pres"
The realities of that post MIGHT just shock him, M.T. Soot that he is...
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:10:21am |
Good morning Footballers. I hope everyone had a good holiday weekend. Mine started out well with 2 Red Sox wins over the Bronx Bums, but then they lost the next two. Other than that it was good.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:13:40am |
re: #632 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Footballers. I hope everyone had a good holiday weekend. Mine started out well with 2 Red Sox wins over the Bronx Bums, but then they lost the next two. Other than that it was good.
CAN THEY BOTH LOOSE? only if they are the FUBS.
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:18:27am |
re: #633 yochanan
CAN THEY BOTH LOOSE? only if they are the FUBS.
Hey Yoch, & seven Cubs on the All Star Team! Seven!
Soriono is on & he spent a lot of time on the DL.
The 1st place White Sox get only two? Give me a break!
Sox pitching , best ERA in the majors & not one picther named!
I call for a Congressional inquiry.
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Ojoe Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:20:30am |
re: #631 Karridine
Yes I saw your post & dinged it up. Very good post. If O elected, tragedy; the country is in a bad way that he even could get this far; IMHO many have lost their moral bearings, I am praying that people do not vote for a man who could see a baby as a punishment.
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JammieWearingFool Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:24:52am |
re: #635 opnion
Hey Yoch, & seven Cubs on the All Star Team! Seven!
Soriono is on & he spent a lot of time on the DL.
The 1st place White Sox get only two? Give me a break!
Sox pitching , best ERA in the majors & not one picther named!
I call for a Congressional inquiry.
The selection process is a joke, and the requirement every team be represented should be scuttled. On the NYY end, Mike Mussina deserved a spot on the team. A-Rod and Jeter won the popular vote on reputation, not for their on-field production this season.
At the same time, there are eight days left for a bunch of guys to come up with mystery ailments, allowing some spots to open up.
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:26:29am |
re: #636 Ojoe
Yes I saw your post & dinged it up. Very good post. If O elected, tragedy; the country is in a bad way that he even could get this far; IMHO many have lost their moral bearings, I am praying that people do not vote for a man who could see a baby as a punishment.
The guy blocked a bill in the Illinois Senate to ban FULL TERM abortions! It is actually the only thing that he did of note in Springield.
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Macker Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:26:30am |
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS! Guess what little jewel I found this morning! A site which foments dissension within the ranks of the Demo☭rats!
And here's the kicker...he's a LEGAL ALIEN (specifically, a Canadian) who lives right here in the Valley of the Sun!
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:26:50am |
re: #635 opnion
Hey Yoch, & seven Cubs on the All Star Team! Seven!
Soriono is on & he spent a lot of time on the DL.
The 1st place White Sox get only two? Give me a break!
Sox pitching , best ERA in the majors & not one picther named!
I call for a Congressional inquiry.
The Red Sox have 7 in the all-star game as well. One, however is David Ortiz, who is injured and won't play, and another is Jason Varitek, who may be one of the better catchers in the game, but his batting average lately is practically in the negatives. In Varitek's case, though, he was put on by the players.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:27:14am |
re: #635 opnion
Hey Yoch, & seven Cubs on the All Star Team! Seven!
Soriono is on & he spent a lot of time on the DL.
The 1st place White Sox get only two? Give me a break!
Sox pitching , best ERA in the majors & not one picther named!
I call for a Congressional inquiry.
THE MEDIA IS IN THE TANK FOR THE FUBS AS WELL AS OBAMA
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:30:34am |
re: #637 JammieWearingFool
The selection process is a joke, and the requirement every team be represented should be scuttled. On the NYY end, Mike Mussina deserved a spot on the team. A-Rod and Jeter won the popular vote on reputation, not for their on-field production this season.
At the same time, there are eight days left for a bunch of guys to come up with mystery ailments, allowing some spots to open up.
Good analysis. Really becomes a reward for being famous.The Cubs have pitcher (Ryan Demster) who has not won a road game!
I think that Yankee Stadium is kind of a road game for the Cubs.
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:31:44am |
re: #641 yochanan
THE MEDIA IS IN THE TANK FOR THE FUBS AS WELL AS OBAMA
Sadly you are correct. The Cubs & Obama & the media swoon.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:33:12am |
you would not even know that the White Sox were leading there division if you looked at the local in the tank media
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:35:53am |
re: #643 yochanan
does the all star game use the D.H. or not?
It does this year because it is in an American League park.
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:36:03am |
re: #647 yochanan
you would not even know that the White Sox were leading there division if you looked at the local in the tank media
You are spot on, my friend. If lightning strikes & the Sox & Cubs meet in the World Series ,it will sureal.
The media will treat the Sox like the visiting team & drool all over the Cubs. The Sox of course would take the Series.
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rlevitin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:37:02am |
Good Morning Lizards!
What's everyone talking about today?
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:38:26am |
re: #649 opnion
You are spot on, my friend. If lightning strikes & the Sox & Cubs meet in the World Series ,it will sureal.
The media will treat the Sox like the visiting team & drool all over the Cubs. The Sox of course would take the Series.
told my cubs fan son OF COURSE I WANT THE CUBS TO MAKE THE W.S. so we can beat them GOT GOAT!
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:39:56am |
re: #637 JammieWearingFool
Even as a Sox fan, I agree that Mussina should be on the team. And you are very correct about every team being represented. That is BS.
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rlevitin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:40:18am |
re: #639 Macker
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS! Guess what little jewel I found this morning! A site which foments dissension within the ranks of the Demo☭rats!
And here's the kicker...he's a LEGAL ALIEN (specifically, a Canadian) who lives right here in the Valley of the Sun!
Sweet.
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:40:40am |
re: #651 yochanan
told my cubs fan son OF COURSE I WANT THE CUBS TO MAKE THE W.S. so we can beat them GOT GOAT!
OMG, your son is a Cub fan! I am so sorry.
This calls for an intervention.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:44:06am |
re: #654 opnion
My sister married a Yankee fan, from Fall River MA no less, so now her kids are Yankee fans. It's just wrong I tell ya'.
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JammieWearingFool Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:45:36am |
re: #652 Ford_Prefect
Even as a Sox fan, I agree that Mussina should be on the team. And you are very correct about every team being represented. That is BS.
It's silly. Seriously, is anyone going to complain if the Royals aren't represented? If they insist on having a player from every team, then increase the roster size.
If the Yankee offense was any better, Mussina would have 15 wins by now.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:46:19am |
Okay. Little help? I just installed an IM client (pidgin), and I haven't used IM since VirtualPlaces was free.
As soon as I connected for the first time, I got a message from the Yahoo deal saying that "infinitegarment" wanted to be my new best friend or somesuch. Is that automated, or a sample Buddy from Yahoo, or is it the equivalent of domain squatting? ? ? Utterly befuddled.
Thanks %-/
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:46:56am |
re: #654 opnion
I have 3 son one a cub fan one a sox fan and one is married to a fan of the evil empire.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:47:20am |
re: #658 doriangrey
Good morning Lizards...
' Morning, fast guy.
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:49:09am |
re: #660 MajorPribluda
' Morning, fast guy.
Sigh... Until I get my vette fixed I'm just another commuter in a Toyota Camery...
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:49:12am |
funny i have a WHITE SOX hat in yiddish gets some odd looks
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:51:49am |
re: #661 doriangrey
Sigh... Until I get my vette fixed I'm just another commuter in a Toyota Camery...
Was the Camry provided by whoever is fixing the Vette?
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:53:31am |
re: #663 Ford_Prefect
What year is your Vette?
1984, thats it in my avatar...
re: #664 MajorPribluda
Was the Camry provided by whoever is fixing the Vette?
Nope, I bought it knowing that the part I need was going to take awhile to get...
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:57:22am |
re: #665 doriangrey
My dad just recently traded in a '96 for a 2003. Sweet car.
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:57:43am |
Well time to trundle off to work, vette parts ain't cheap ya know...
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:58:53am |
re: #666 Ford_Prefect
My dad just recently traded in a '96 for a 2003. Sweet car.
Their handling is exceptional to the point of being addictive. 2003, sweet indeed...
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:59:51am |
re: #668 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey Lizards! Whaddup?
Oh not much, some fat lazy bastages are just showing up as the rest of us are heading off to work... ;P
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:00:49am |
re: #670 doriangrey
Oh not much, some fat lazy bastages are just showing up as the rest of us are heading off to work... ;P
I am already at work. See...this is me working.
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:01:29am |
re: #671 Ford_Prefect
I am already at work. See...this is me working.
ROTFLMAO...man your work must be a bitch...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:01:30am |
re: #670 doriangrey
Dude...just jump in that camery, roll the windows down, stick your head out the window, make a really cool motor noise, and look cool. It'll be just like the 'vette!
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:02:16am |
re: #673 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dude...just jump in that camery, roll the windows down, stick your head out the window, make a really cool motor noise, and look cool. It'll be just like the 'vette!
Dude... you're just plain EVIL...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:02:29am |
re: #674 doriangrey
Dude... you're just plain EVIL...
Moi?
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:03:18am |
re: #675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Moi?
No, the other Fat Bastard Vegetarian... ;P
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:04:11am |
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
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FrogMarch Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:04:52am |
Agenda based reporting: CNN is not interested in factual reporting. Lies? No problem.
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:05:21am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
You'll suffer serious velocity withdrawals and excessive boredom...And deserve every bit of it...
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akak Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:05:28am |
oh my Fox sure likes the word Homicide for all these Jihadi suicide bombings...send in CSI
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:06:27am |
re: #676 doriangrey
No, the other Fat Bastard Vegetarian... ;P
Dorian, I went from a Renault Gordini (was a really cool car at the time(1980) to a 1974 Ford Torino Station Wagon. Pull up beside a hottie at a stop light, roll down the back power window, blue smoke would come billowing up through the car...talk about cool.
I had a carbon footprint bigger than Obama's ego.
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doriangrey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:07:37am |
re: #681 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dorian, I went from a Renault Gordini (was a really cool car at the time(1980) to a 1974 Ford Torino Station Wagon. Pull up beside a hottie at a stop light, roll down the back power window, blue smoke would come billowing up through the car...talk about cool.
I had a carbon footprint bigger than Obama's ego.
Nobody has a carbon foot print that big... Not even ManbearPig...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:10:44am |
BTW Dorian...am going to go 55. Have a relaxing day in front of me. A Clive Cussler Book on Tape, think I'll get 29 mpg. Toyota Highlander.
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itellu3times Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:11:20am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
25.2
However, if you are gentler on the acceleration, doing less passing, that may increase mileage independent of speed as such and raise it all the way to 25.3.
I've seen barely any difference between 55 and 80mph on freeway commutes. Theoretically it should save maybe 5-10%. Did you say what kind of car?
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itellu3times Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:12:58am |
re: #686 itellu3times
Did you say what kind of car?
Oh, there it is, a Toyota Highlander. OK, not the most aero car in the world, so make it 25.4.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:13:15am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
WELL AFTER THE ROAD RAGE FROM THE DRIVERS BEHIND YOU?
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:13:38am |
Wow, did I ever sleep well last night! Sorry if I left some replies unattended. Drifted off around post 100.
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Desert Dog Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:14:28am |
I'll be driving my 26' Freightliner between 25 and 65 mph around Phoenix today, I am sure my mpg will suck, as usual, and then, I will get to fill up at $4.799 per gallon at the end of the day...ugh
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:14:41am |
re: #686 itellu3times
I disagree, but we'll see. I've increased mileage lately by doing a few different things. Slowing down to speed limit. But I keep hearing that 55 is the most fuel efficeint speed.
I've been getting an extra 50 miles on a tank of gas since playing around with it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:16:24am |
re: #688 yochanan
WELL AFTER THE ROAD RAGE FROM THE DRIVERS BEHIND YOU?
No, I will speed up when people are stuck behind me. Not going to force people to take part in my experiment. What do you think I am, a Liberal?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:17:34am |
Gotta run...but remember to ask me later...I'll report.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:18:42am |
And this is about saving my damn wallet...not the planet.
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FrogMarch Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:22:14am |
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:25:18am |
Good morning all y'all - from an overcast and cool (68 degrees, going up to 88 degrees with the usual T-Storms, heavy rain and lightning forecast) Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:26:00am |
re: #694 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And this is about saving my damn wallet...not the planet.
For me it is about my wallet and national security. I consider energy independence a national security issue.
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:28:02am |
re: #696 realwest
All parts checking in operational, but it is early here... Good to see you RW!
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:28:05am |
re: #639 Macker
Good find... I did a quick search on the schmuck who put up that website and found this "open letter" published at Lew Rockwell's website. Clearly, we have a 100% genuine nutjob moonbat here. There are many other whacked out essays & letters from this super-genius all over the web.
Still, I wish him all the success in his latest venture.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:28:35am |
REMEMBER it is OBAMA that wants the price of gas to go up so we can fellow the econuts will of the wisp program
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:30:08am |
re: #698 rawmuse
Hey rawmuse, good to see you too! How early is it for you?
Heck, I remember not more than oh six months or so ago, there'd be at least another 25 or so people logged in and commeting, but a lot of those don't seem to come around anymore.
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:30:35am |
re: #699 Kenneth
Lew Rockwell was favored on the talk radio circuit about 10-12 years ago. Now, he has gone full moonbat (to the extent that he was dating Cindy Shehag for a while) which proves that you can arrive at moonbat from either the Left or the Right.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:30:37am |
My brother just sent me a link to this video. According to the e-mail, the machine in the attached video was built as a collaborative effort between the Robert M Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School of Engineering at the University of Iowa.
97% of the machines' components came from John Deer Industries and Irrigation Equipment of Bancroft, Iowa. Yes, farm equipment!
It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment, calibration, and tuning before filming this video.
It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard Alumni Hall at the University of Iowa and is already slated to be donated to the Smithsonian.
Note how all of the balls wind up in the catcher cones!
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:31:53am |
re: #691 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I disagree, but we'll see. I've increased mileage lately by doing a few different things. Slowing down to speed limit. But I keep hearing that 55 is the most fuel efficeint speed.
I've been getting an extra 50 miles on a tank of gas since playing around with it.
/I can't drive 55
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:32:10am |
re: #662 yochanan
funny i have a WHITE SOX hat in yiddish gets some odd looks
Beautiful!. I was at the game last Monday.
They are selling tee shirts'"Cubs Baseball Killed Harry"
When you think about it, Harry Cary was alive whit the Sox.
He goes to the Cubs & no longer alive. Coincidence?
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:32:30am |
re: #701 realwest
Hey rawmuse, good to see you too! How early is it for you?
Heck, I remember not more than oh six months or so ago, there'd be at least another 25 or so people logged in and commeting, but a lot of those don't seem to come around anymore.
Good Morning real and raw.. How goes it?
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:32:50am |
re: #701 realwest
I am in the Pacific time zone. Nice cool fog. Wife is back home, everything is back to normal. My neighbor's pets are back in their own custody. Life is good.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:32:57am |
Hey did anyone see the NYT today? According to the three talking heads at FoxNews this morning (combined age of all three can't exceed 85!) were talking about the Slimes bashing Obama again and I couldn't tell from the story if it was an old article or a new one today!
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:33:02am |
re: #696 realwest
Good morning all y'all - from an overcast and cool (68 degrees, going up to 88 degrees with the usual T-Storms, heavy rain and lightning forecast) Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?
Sup, Real?
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:33:03am |
re: #665 doriangrey
Nope, I bought it knowing that the part I need was going to take awhile to get...
'83 was the last year of the "swoopy" Vette, right? Wasn't '84 the first wedge?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:33:21am |
re: #695 FrogMarch
Although the youths talked about ways to attack the U.S., they lacked a strong leader who could help them follow through on a plan, the detective reported.
Spooky.
BTW, did you know you can see Mecca's stadium from satellite?
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:34:44am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
I guess you'll tire of 55 in about 7 miles and stoke it up to 70 to make up for lost time, cursing your idea the rest of the way. Or maybe that's just me.
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:34:57am |
re: #703 Creeping Eruption
That is a computer animation. Hate to break it to ya. But it is fun.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:36:04am |
re: #703 Creeping Eruption
My brother just sent me a link to this video. According to the e-mail, the machine in the attached video was built as a collaborative effort between the Robert M Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School of Engineering at the University of Iowa.
97% of the machines' components came from John Deer Industries and Irrigation Equipment of Bancroft, Iowa. Yes, farm equipment!
It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment, calibration, and tuning before filming this video.
It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard Alumni Hall at the University of Iowa and is already slated to be donated to the Smithsonian.
Note how all of the balls wind up in the catcher cones!
PIMF: Snopes says its computer generated. Oh well, cool video nonetheless.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:36:14am |
re: #703 Creeping Eruption
Awesome! I wonder what was the inspiration.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:36:40am |
re: #713 rawmuse
That is a computer animation. Hate to break it to ya. But it is fun.
Well, poop.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:36:51am |
re: #703 Creeping Eruption Whoa! That Music Machine is cool!
Not really anything worth spending so much time and effort on (see, e.g., Mike Oldfeld and his Tubular Bells from about 30 years ago) but it's still good music and interesting video!
Thanks for the link!
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:37:35am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
You use fuel with the accelerator. You waste it with the brake. The Holy Grail of driving efficiency lies in only using the brake as often as you use the ignition :-)
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:38:00am |
re: #706 HoosierHoops
Good morning back atcha - things are ok here -except for the truly crappy weather, how's by you?
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:38:11am |
re: #716 MandyManners
Good mornin' darlin'! I see we shared "Top 10 comments" status this weekend. I felt like I was breathing rarified air.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:38:24am |
re: #716 MandyManners
Well, poop.
Somebody sent me a bunch of those a couple of years ago..
I can't remember about what the project was called but i know there
is a DVD of the whole collection out.
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:39:22am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If stats are an indicator, your MPG should improve by somewhere between 4-8%.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:39:49am |
re: #720 rawmuse
Good mornin' darlin'! I see we shared "Top 10 comments" status this weekend. I felt like I was breathing rarified air.
I was in the Top 10? Really? Wow. I never look at that thing.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:39:57am |
re: #709 opnion Hey there my friend - same old same old but I'm getting really tired of this damn weather - ever since Friday night, we've had nothing but rain, heavily overcast skies, thunderstorms and lightning - I've had the 'puter off more than on!
How are you doing?
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:40:03am |
re: #719 realwest
Good morning back atcha - things are ok here -except for the truly crappy weather, how's by you?
Yea.. it's raining here..again
But i'm having a wonderful monday anyway
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:40:49am |
re: #720 rawmuse
Oh. I got 31 for my first comment in the thread about slavery in Dubai.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:40:49am |
re: #703 Creeping Eruption
My brother just sent me a link to this video. According to the e-mail, the machine in the attached video was built as a collaborative effort between the Robert M Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School of Engineering at the University of Iowa.
97% of the machines' components came from John Deer Industries and Irrigation Equipment of Bancroft, Iowa. Yes, farm equipment!
It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment, calibration, and tuning before filming this video.
It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard Alumni Hall at the University of Iowa and is already slated to be donated to the Smithsonian.
Note how all of the balls wind up in the catcher cones!
re: #691 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I disagree, but we'll see. I've increased mileage lately by doing a few different things. Slowing down to speed limit. But I keep hearing that 55 is the most fuel efficeint speed.
I've been getting an extra 50 miles on a tank of gas since playing around with it.
Inflated my tires to the right pressure--got me about 2 mpg.
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:41:35am |
re: #715 MandyManners
Awesome! I wonder what was the inspiration.
Blue Man Group!
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:41:46am |
re: #721 HoosierHoops
Somebody sent me a bunch of those a couple of years ago..
I can't remember about what the project was called but i know there
is a DVD of the whole collection out.
Computer animation sometimes creeps me out. I can't explain why but, it does.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:42:09am |
re: #728 MajorPribluda
Blue Man Group!
I've heard of that.
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:42:44am |
re: #724 realwest
We so dry here we could all spontaneously combust any moment. Count your blessings. We are coming up to the 2nd year of a bad drought. I see water rationing in our future. Ms. rawmuse does not do well with rationing. She does every thing that one ought not do in a water crisis.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:43:06am |
re: #716 MandyManners
Well, poop.
Sorry Mandy, see my 714. I thought it was cool too though.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:43:11am |
re: #729 MandyManners
Computer animation sometimes creeps me out. I can't explain why but, it does.
there most be some kindof name for that..
/CGIphobia?
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:45:03am |
re: #724 realwest
Hey there my friend - same old same old but I'm getting really tired of this damn weather - ever since Friday night, we've had nothing but rain, heavily overcast skies, thunderstorms and lightning - I've had the 'puter off more than on!
How are you doing?
I am doing great. Seems like this Summer is flying by.
Our Winter was really long this year. Record cold & snow since thirty years ago.
Global Warming? You my friend are in a great part of the country. Enjoy.
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Ojoe Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:45:19am |
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:45:50am |
re: #730 MandyManners
Morning Mandy! Hope you're doing well today!
Blue Man Group (should be groups cause they've sorta franchised some) was - the original anyway - one of the most creative, exceptionally avante-gard FUNNY AS HELL groups around - never spoke on stage (although they were not a "mime" act) but also created some great but weirod music using cardboard tubes, jars and the like.
If you ever get a chance to see 'em (they've been on TV - I think PBS, maybe) you certainly should - just great entertainment!
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:46:11am |
Anybody driving a late model Chevy with the 4.2literDOHC? I'm asking for a reason.
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:47:16am |
re: #736 realwest
That is a great music/theater idea. They have had a great run.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:47:59am |
Greets and saluts from the overcast and humid NYC metro area. The Islamists are busy again, causing mass carnage in Kabul - bombing the Indian embassy and killing more than 40 people. [deleted]
Appeasement has only encouraged the Taliban and al Qaeda that they can outlast efforts to terminate them with extreme prejudice.
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FrogMarch Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:48:39am |
re: #711 MandyManners
Although the youths talked about ways to attack the U.S., they lacked a strong leader who could help them follow through on a plan, the detective reported.
Spooky.
BTW, did you know you can see Mecca's stadium from satellite?
Spooky indeed.
arg...Can't get the stadium to load.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:49:15am |
In the early days of the Korean War, other American officers observed, photographed and confidentially reported on such wholesale executions by their South Korean ally, a secretive slaughter believed to have killed 100,000 or more leftists and supposed sympathizers, usually without charge or trial, in a few weeks in mid-1950.
SNIP
bbl
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:49:53am |
re: #741 FrogMarch
Spooky indeed.
arg...Can't get the stadium to load.
Just click the + sign on the upper left.
bbl
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:55:34am |
Howdy.
There are reports that freed Colombian hostage Ingrid Betancourt was the victim of aggression not only from her terrorist captors, but also of (possibly sexual) aggression from some fellow Colombian police/military captives, and that she was protected by... US defense contractor (and fellow hostage) Marc Gonsalves. Good for him.
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granitebill Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:55:35am |
'Morning all..
Not sure how old this Newt video is... it's just plain common sense.
[Link: www.theospark.net...]
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:55:38am |
re: #677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have to drive to Richmond, VA today. Gonna go 55mph to see what that does to my gas mileage. Have all day to make the trip. I get 25 mpg at 65, gonna see what happens.
Anybody wanna venture a guess?
I figure you'll still get that 25 mpg. One thing I have noticed about my car is that the mileage tends to be about 27 mpg hwy until I hit 80 mph. Then it drops much more dramatically. As much as air resistance may increase, the major factor in how much fuel you'll use is how hard your engine is working, and how efficiently it is working. Lower rpms tend to have better mileage, but there is a sweet spot on some vehicles where the engine is buring gasoline more effectively and efficiently. For my 2.4 liter four banger, it's about 2500 rpm. That translates to 70 mph in high gear (4th).
The worst thing you can do for your mileage is to stop and go often, as well as abrupt speed and lane changes. Smoothness is key, as is staying off the brake.
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:56:15am |
re: #741 FrogMarch
Use the tabs which include aerial view, and the + magnifier to move in.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:57:36am |
re: #729 MandyManners
Computer animation sometimes creeps me out. I can't explain why but, it does.
It's possible you were abused by a CGI as a child.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:58:04am |
Can I borrow some "ropes. chains & tackle" And sink-hole has started on the street above my house? 0-:
This could be different?
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:58:17am |
{realwest} Left you a *smoochie* at #553 and here's one more, just because *smoooch*
:D
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:59:14am |
re: #737 Cap'n DOC
Anybody driving a late model Chevy with the 4.2literDOHC? I'm asking for a reason.
Yes.
Which is to say, I'm sure somebody is. (But not me.)
This has been a bulletin from the Department of True But Unhelpful Information.
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Vergeltung Mon, Jul 7, 2008 6:59:15am |
love GK Chesterton. a vast source of common sense, and some great writings.
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Sizzlack Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:01:40am |
Just heard the Honor Killing story on the news. They said that the father believed a divorce would disgrace his family. Apparently murdering his daughter was not disgraceful though. Odd times we live in
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opnion Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:02:13am |
re: #744 Occasional Reader
Howdy.
There are reports that freed Colombian hostage Ingrid Betancourt was the victim of aggression not only from her terrorist captors, but also of (possibly sexual) aggression from some fellow Colombian police/military captives, and that she was protected by... US defense contractor (and fellow hostage) Marc Gonsalves. Good for him.
See, evil Americans! sarc
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:03:06am |
re: #754 Sizzlack
The only thing about that divorce that would have been disgraceful is that it took so long to happen.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:04:23am |
Hey all y'all - I'm back from doing a chore, what've I missed?!
On second thought, nevermind, it's not been that long since I've been away, I'll go look myself!
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Sizzlack Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:08:08am |
re: #760 Iron Fist
I didn't mean what he did was odd, I know its completely part of their culture. I meant it was odd that the news chose the phrase it the way they did.
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ggt Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:08:41am |
Good Morning Lizards! It seems a little gray in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.
I have only one question: why?
Ok two more: How are you-all and what are we talking about?
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:10:51am |
re: #766 ploome hineni
Could be. I have a sink-hole that just started above my home?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:11:55am |
re: #764 ggt
I have only one question: why?
I note from the article:
he carried a Red Ryder BB gun [for shooting out the balloons to come down]
"Kid, you'll shoot your eye out!"
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:12:34am |
re: #764 ggt
Good Morning Lizards! It seems a little gray in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.
I have only one question: why?
Ok two more: How are you-all and what are we talking about?
A little gray, and a lot humid. This is a great day to be thankful for air conditioning.
Answer to your question: Because.
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Golem Akbar Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:13:03am |
Good morning Lizards!
I have a question to ask (I've been pondering). Why is it that democrats are so afraid of so much? They are afraid to confront fascism (Islamofascism). They are afraid to confront the energy crisis. They refuse to drill for oil and build new nuclear plants.
What are they afraid of? Succeeding?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:13:28am |
re: #768 Dustoff-507
Could be. I have a sink-hole that just started above my home?
Shut your pie-hole about your sink-hole!
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:14:33am |
ploome's water broke?
PLOOME GET TO THE HOSPITAL! AND MAZEL TOV, BTW!
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ggt Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:15:57am |
re: #774 Golem Akbar
I've come to the conclusion that it is a classic case of "it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission".
If we wait for Congress to make a decision, nothing will happen, because they never will. They don't want to be responsible for anything that might go wrong, and since humans are involved, something will always go wrong.
The Private Sector has to step forward, and just do it.
Congress will play the blame game, it's what they do.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:16:23am |
re: #768 Dustoff-507
Could be. I have a sink-hole that just started above my home?
Maybe Ploome could put her water in your sink-hole...Oh never mind.
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ggt Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:17:03am |
re: #774 Golem Akbar
either that or they are waiting for a democrat to be elected to the oval office, so it can be perceived that they did it all.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:17:58am |
re: #761 ploome hineni
I have no water this morning
:(
my water purifier sprung a leak, and was gushing in the garage-like a fountain
WATER BROKE? did not know you were expecting
I AM NOT THE FATHER DID NOT DO IT
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:18:50am |
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:18:57am |
re: #777 Occasional Reader
LOL... hey that hurt. Well if my house sides down the hill. I may cry. (-:
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Golem Akbar Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:19:30am |
re: #779 ggt
I've come to the conclusion that it is a classic case of "it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission".
If we wait for Congress to make a decision, nothing will happen, because they never will. They don't want to be responsible for anything that might go wrong, and since humans are involved, something will always go wrong.
The Private Sector has to step forward, and just do it.
Congress will play the blame game, it's what they do.
Congress is amazing...amazingly defeatist. How can the greatest country in the world be its own worst enemy? We have oil. We need to drill. Even Europe benefits when American oil is plentiful. It's dumb dumb dumb not to keep control of our own destiny.
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bosforus Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:19:31am |
LGF, one of the best things about coming back to work after a vacation.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:19:37am |
re: #780 Ford_Prefect
DUDE, that's just wrong. LOL /Pick me up off the floor.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:20:14am |
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:20:20am |
realwest - LOOK OVER THERE! QUICK!
Hello {Dustoff TCGTM} *peck*
:P
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:21:02am |
re: #784 Dustoff-507
LOL... hey that hurt. Well if my house sides down the hill. I may cry. (-:
All kidding aside, keep a close eye on that thing (I don't have to tell you).
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:21:16am |
re: #783 Occasional Reader
The Bulls win! The Bulls win... /only time you'll see this fan root for the bulls...
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:21:24am |
re: #783 Occasional Reader
Quagmire deepends in Pamplona; bullish insurgents strike again.
deepends = deepens
[sigh]
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:21:54am |
re: #789 Miss Trixie
Hey sweet lady. (-: I'll NEVER wash that spot again. "ever"
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:22:24am |
re: #742 MandyManners
But that was in 1950, during a Democratic administration, so it doesn't count. Did I mention Abu Ghraib?
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:22:39am |
Experts: Iran continues to pursue nuclear weapons.
Doesn't take an expert to see that. Common sense is all that is necessary, but a trait lacking among diplomats and politicians who would rather bury their head in sand.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:23:20am |
re: #790 Occasional Reader
If it does side. My neighbors house is above me. If it goes my neighbor and i could become really close! 0-:
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:23:22am |
Ploome and Yoch are having a baby? I didn't even know they were dating.
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Aylios Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:24:38am |
re: #15 Carridine
Misogyny is the anger of men who have no SELF-CONFIDENCE.
Actually, it might be the anger of men who've lived too long in France ...
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:25:11am |
re: #751{ Miss Trixie}
Hi there gorgeous! I appreciate your re-sending the smooches cause I didn't see the first ones - and here's a *smoooch* back to you!
Hope you're doing well!
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yochanan Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:26:31am |
re: #796 lawhawk
Experts: Iran continues to pursue nuclear weapons.
Doesn't take an expert to see that. Common sense is all that is necessary, but a trait lacking among diplomats and politicians who would rather bury their head in sand.
MOSTLY POLS PUT THERE HEAD WERE THERE IS NO LIGHT SAND NOT SO MUCH.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:26:37am |
re: #803 realwest
Ahhh Realwest. You trying to pick up my girl? "again" (-:
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:26:52am |
re: #758 Dustoff-507
What?! I was on LGF and hadda leave, but decided to see what had happened since I'd left on my own, rather than ask anyone to report on it! And I'm glad I did, cause I mighta missed Miss Trixies *smooches* LOL!
How are you doing today?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:28:42am |
re: #808 taxfreekiller
Democrats are pissing tfk off.
In other news:
-Pope declares "I'm Catholic"
-Bear scat found in woods
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rlevitin Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:28:58am |
re: #802 Aylios
Actually, it might be the anger of men who've lived too long in France ...
LOL
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:29:18am |
re: #807 realwest
I'm doing great. Had a fun weekend (4th) Did a bunch of diving and house work. But a sink-hole has started on the street above my home. So far it's 2ft X 2ft but growing?
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:29:59am |
re: #774 Golem Akbar
Good morning Golem! No, the Democrats are afraid of doing ANYTHING that will help America, unless it's something whose primary purpose is to make the World love America.
Sorry for the redundancy there!
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:30:42am |
re: #791 Ford_Prefect
My, we are frisky this morning.
Frisky? Hell no - I'm just trying to stay awake. Had a rough night last night. Didn't sleep very well. Next time, no more late spicy dinners.
:)
Dustoff - on our round to terrorize the 'hood yesterday, the local firestation around the corner was open. I asked if I could take some pics of the fellas while they were washing the trucks *thump* and just as I went to take a pic, realized my batteries were too low and my camera wouldn't work. It just said "Ohoh!" and died. >[
Pics will have to wait for another time - sorry.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:32:31am |
re: #789 Miss Trixie Ha! y'all think that cause I'm older more mature I can be fooled by something like that?!?
And you're choosing a guy who's as mature as I am and who has a sink hole over his house?!
Women!
Can't live with 'em.
They won't let ya try to live without 'em! LOL!
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:32:36am |
re: #783 Occasional Reader
There are just SO MANY other ways to have fun.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:32:38am |
re: #815 Miss Trixie
Trixe... YOU broke their hearts. LOL
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:33:36am |
re: #815 Miss Trixie
I asked if I could take some pics of the fellas while they were washing the trucks
Only women can get away with this stuff. I mean, if I were to ask to take pictures of the cheerleading squad while they were showering... well, you get the point.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:33:50am |
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:35:14am |
re: #806 Dustoff-507
Well since you and your neighbor are about to become thisclose, I won't comment on your ridiculous statement!
Seriously, do you have insurance and if not can you get it RIGHT NOW?!
Have y'all contacted whatever authorities there are out there about the situation (since you live where the Sun only shines maybe 7, 8 days a year, tops, they MUST have a department of sinkholes!)?
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:35:15am |
re: #819 taxfreekiller
So much greed and avarice, so little personal responsibility.
So, I see you went to Springfield, Illinois for your holiday.
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Miss Trixie Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:35:45am |
realwest
LOLOLOLOLOL! You crack me up.
It's been a slice but I'm busier than a one-legged man in an a**-kicking contest.
Be back later and have a good day.
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:37:07am |
re: #754 Sizzlack
The honour/shame paradigm is all that matters to these barbarians. Now that the daughter has been murdered, the blight on the family honour has been removed and everyone can live happily ever after in Sharialand.
*spit*
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:38:34am |
re: #820 Occasional Reader
A few years ago (when I was on duty) The city allows the HS kids who get into trouble to come clean our fire station.
Well it was a HOT summes day and 2 girls were washing the floor when one of my younger lads tell the girl to spray the other girl.
Well you know what happen after that. I went for a walk around the station. Wasn't about to be caught in in this mess.
(the chief & mayor was pissed)
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:39:07am |
re: #827 yochanan
I agree. I studied in France and found the men to be quite effeminate. They didn't float my boat.
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:39:51am |
re: #824 realwest
E-mailed them morning buddy. And yes called the city phone until it melted. LOL
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:40:14am |
Morning all,
We have a problem please call the WAAAHBULANCE!
Illegal immigrants face threat of no college
Some states are making it harder for illegal immigrants to attend college by denying in-state tuition benefits or banning undocumented students.
You break into my house, and expect me to teach your kids?
[deleted] you.
No media bias here either.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:40:51am |
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:41:35am |
re: #832 JCM
We have a problem please call the WAAAHBULANCE!
I couldn't pass the test to drive one of them. HAHAHAHa
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:41:39am |
re: #831 Dustoff-507
I just KNEW that they'd have a department of sinkholes out by where you live! LOL!
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:42:29am |
re: #836 realwest
I just KNEW that they'd have a department of sinkholes out by where you live! LOL!
Isn't that just the department of transportation?
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:42:32am |
re: #832 JCM
Morning all,
We have a problem please call the WAAAHBULANCE!
Illegal immigrants face threat of no college
You break into my house, and expect me to teach your kids?
[deleted] you.No media bias here either.
Illegal Immigrants face threat of no taxation.
Ya think?
/Furious
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:42:45am |
re: #836 realwest
I'll find out soon buddy. Or I'm calling someone else. 0-:
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amrilusaguy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:43:03am |
OK So I am confused
Why is this a "news" story
shouldnt this be the case no matter what
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:43:18am |
re: #832 JCM
I have no prblem with them attending these colleges...as long as they do it online from HOME.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:43:47am |
re: #838 MajorPribluda
Illegal Immigrants face threat of no taxation.
Ya think?
/Furious
No taxation without deportation!
/To make a turn of phrase.
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EC Marm Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:43:57am |
re: #820 Occasional Reader
Only women can get away with this stuff. I mean, if I were to ask to take pictures of the cheerleading squad while they were showering... well, you get the point.
That last protection order is really cramping your style, isn't it?
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:44:43am |
re: #832 JCM
The term "undocumented" is a seriously sinister term.
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UFO TOFU Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:45:41am |
Cool photo: [Link: soldiersangelsgermany.blogspot.com...]
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:45:58am |
re: #833 MandyManners
Many women bombers are presented with the opportunity to shahidize themselves to remove stains on the family honour. I wonder what her story is.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:46:15am |
re: #835 Dustoff-507
We have a problem please call the WAAAHBULANCE!
I couldn't pass the test to drive one of them. HAHAHAHa
Hard to have to run over ever cone after a lifetime of missing them isn't it?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:46:24am |
re: #843 EC Marm
That last protection order is really cramping your style, isn't it?
The judge just had no sense of humor at all.
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sparrowlake Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:47:06am |
Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions.
— G. K. Chesterton
In his writings he equates having no opinions with indifference, and in this sense he makes an excellent point. He points out that there are usually too few committed bigots to do much damage, whereas the real danger is that there are too many angry people who just don't give a damn.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:47:08am |
re: #845 WriterMom
The term "undocumented" is a seriously sinister term.
I prefer CRIMINAL ALIEN!
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:48:19am |
John Dillinger was a bank robber undocumented bank account holder.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:48:50am |
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Dustoff-507 Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:49:34am |
OK, folks I have to go. Time to melt the city phone again...
Before my house slides down the hill. "yuck"
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:50:08am |
re: #842 Honorary Yooper
No taxation without deportation!
/To make a turn of phrase.
Actually, one of my key objections to amnesty and all of its filthy cousins is that we do not have two classes of citizens in America. How can we "legalize" people by "bringing them into the light" and getting them on the tax rolls, if they are to be denied the vote? We once had a revolution centered upon, among other things, a violent reaction to the consequences of "taxation without representation", and we hold that to be a valid sentiment. The amnesty proposals are not about issuing temporary work visas, but permanent. So shall we create a class of persons who will be taxed but who cannot vote? It invites revolution and rightly so! On the other hand, shall we extend the vote as well to non-citizens? It erases the last distinction between citizen and non-citizen; it reduces the value of my citizenship to zero. I will oppose this.
There can be no half-steps--a person is either a citizen or not.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:51:18am |
re: #802 Aylios
CAN a person 'live too long' (or very long at all?) in Fwance?
I mean, isn't there a LAW against it or something, Aylios? Doesn't the Law of Entropy kick in? Kick him in? Kick him in the brain?
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:51:35am |
re: #852 Dustoff-507
LOL, yep that's it
I tried to train a kid once. He couldn't grasp that an engine is 8'6' wide and his Geo Metro was 5'. More'n once I thought a street sign was going to end up in my lap.
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amrilusaguy Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:51:42am |
re: #857 MajorPribluda
I have never looked at that way, but you are correct, very correct.
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Ojoe Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:51:50am |
re: #833 MandyManners
The feminists here used to say 'women would never be suicide bombers. it's evil men who do such things. if we elected women to lead us, the world would be at peace.'
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:52:39am |
re: #857 MajorPribluda
So shall we create a class of persons who will be taxed but who cannot vote?
We already do (and have for a long time). Permanent resident (green card) holders are taxed but can't vote. And the tax laws have long had a "substantial presence" test for non-citizens working here (legally or not) to assess income tax.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:52:48am |
California To Issue Green Stickers For All Cars
Just when you might of started thinking that California was not run by a bunch of whack jobs, another state sponsored “Green” initiative to raise awareness of “global warming” has been foisted upon the auto industry. California has bought on to the Great Global Warming Swindle hook line and sinker. And if you are a resident of the state, you get to be a part of it whether you like it or not. The Detroit News is reporting that all new vehicles sold in California starting next year will have to display window labels that rate their “environmental score”.
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nikis-knight Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:54:02am |
re: #774 Golem Akbar
Good morning Lizards!
I have a question to ask (I've been pondering). Why is it that democrats are so afraid of so much? They are afraid to confront fascism (Islamofascism). They are afraid to confront the energy crisis. They refuse to drill for oil and build new nuclear plants.What are they afraid of? Succeeding?
They're afraid of America Succeeding. Because we're big and mean and scary, unlike those poor oppressed muslim countries.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:54:12am |
re: #843 EC Marm ROTFL! No, getting married is what cramped O.R.'s style! LOL!
But I'd bet money that he wouldn't have it any other way
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:54:17am |
re: #863 Iron Fist
,
They are undocumented home cleaners (burgulars), undocumented auto valets (car jackers), and other undocumented professionals (criminals).
Of course, to the Democrats, they have more rights than YOU
I like immigrants, my ancestors immigrant 300 years ago. The followed the applicable laws of the time.
We have a way for people to come, here and become citizens.
USE IT!
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:55:26am |
re: #851 JCM
I prefer CRIMINAL ALIEN!
Me, too!
"Undocumented" pharmacist = Pusher-Man
"Undocumented" pediatric gynecologist = child molester
"Undocumented" airline pilot = 9/11 thug
I prefer Illegal (whatever)!
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:55:44am |
re: #863 Iron Fist
LOL.
Don't forget Undocumented Pharmacists >drug dealers
Undocumented Social Directors>Gang Bangers
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:56:49am |
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MajorPribluda Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:57:10am |
re: #866 JCM
Just when you might
ofHAVE started thinking...
Sorry, it's a compulsion.
/Not your writing, just your link, I know...
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:57:46am |
re: #867 nikis-knight
I prefer my response at #812, but yours is in the same vein!
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:58:44am |
re: #874 WriterMom
Sorry, Ma'am... is GMTA an epithet or praise?
I saw that earlier today, someone asked for clarification, but it was not forthcoming...
Please?
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:58:49am |
re: #876 MajorPribluda
Sorry, it's a compulsion.
/Not your writing, just your link, I know...
The language "nazis" 'round here help keep me on my toes.
I need the help, desperately.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:59:06am |
re: #878 Karridine
Sorry, Ma'am... is GMTA an epithet or praise?
I saw that earlier today, someone asked for clarification, but it was not forthcoming...
Please?
Great Minds Think Alike!
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 7, 2008 7:59:57am |
Cool. Just saw lightning strike radio tower from my office window.
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:00:17am |
re: #875 Occasional Reader
I was gonna do that one, but then I thought I might be pushing it a little. Ya read my mind.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:00:42am |
re: #847 WriterMom
Many women bombers are presented with the opportunity to shahidize themselves to remove stains on the family honour. I wonder what her story is.
Sounds like honor killing.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:01:04am |
re: #866 JCM Morning jcm! I guess what they say about California IS true: it's the land of fruits and nuts (Charles and Ca. lizards being the exception that proves the rule).
Geebus, what next, a sticker on your car telling everyone how much money you make each year?
Just more bureaucratic nonsense - I couldn't be more ashamed of AHNOLD.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:01:12am |
Thank you, JCM!
"Hmmm... is it 'Gives Me The Ass?'
or
Go Meet the Americans?
or
Greens Make This Aggravating...
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:01:39am |
re: #878 Karridine
OMG you called me Ma'am.
GAAA.
(if you knew me, you'd know why Ma'am really doesn't suit me-althought that's very cute and polite)
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Alouette Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:01:47am |
re: #878 Karridine
Sorry, Ma'am... is GMTA an epithet or praise?
I saw that earlier today, someone asked for clarification, but it was not forthcoming...
Please?
GMTA=Great Minds Think Alike
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:02:12am |
re: #862 Ojoe
The feminists here used to say 'women would never be suicide bombers. it's evil men who do such things. if we elected women to lead us, the world would be at peace.'
Mush heads.
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:02:15am |
re: #870 taxfreekiller
Uh Oh - watch out TEXAS! INCOMING, DUCK!
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:02:40am |
Hey, tfk, what do you think of this parcel? Looks like I may need to make my own road to it, or maybe just improve it.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:03:07am |
re: #885 WriterMom
Thankee, Mum!
And with that, I'll bid all y'all "Fond A'Dieu", from 2205 nearing-midnite suburban Bangkok, on an overcast but jasmine-scented night.
See you tomorrow as C
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WriterMom Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:03:38am |
re: #890 MandyManners
Totally idiotic. I for one, am in a workplace that has a serious ESTROGEN OVERLOAD.
Oy vey!
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nikis-knight Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:04:11am |
re: #886 realwest
Maybe an official sticker pointing out how you only shop at organic local markets.
What's good for the car is good for the driver...
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:05:26am |
The local oldies station had a 4th of July Top 1000 countdown. Among the entries - "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" & "Dancin' in The Dark" - two songs that I grew up listening too! I'm officially old now.
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EC Marm Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:05:33am |
re: #849 Occasional Reader
The judge just had no sense of humor at all.
While appearing in court dressed in only an open raincoat with no clothing underneath may be considered a bold fashion statement by some, it's not always a hit with the judicial branch of the government. Just sayin'
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realwest Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:05:37am |
Um I asked this question before I had to leave for a short while and haven't seen an answer - Has the NYSlimes issued yet another editorial critical of Obama? Fox's talking airheads said something about it, but then cut quickly to A-Rod's marital woes.
Yep, they sure have their priorities right over at Fox.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:05:37am |
re: #886 realwest
Morning jcm! I guess what they say about California IS true: it's the land of fruits and nuts (Charles and Ca. lizards being the exception that proves the rule).
Geebus, what next, a sticker on your car telling everyone how much money you make each year?
Just more bureaucratic nonsense - I couldn't be more ashamed of AHNOLD.
The insanity is one thing. How much does the insanity cost. The car companies have to have group do the calculations, print the stickers stick them in cars going to CA.
CA has to have a enforcement bureaucracy.
To what benefit?
How people are going to alter their buying decision based on the sticker?
I bought the most efficient vehicle in it's class, because the TOC was lower.
It's not going to change total vehicle emissions one whit, but will add a cost to every vehicle.
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rawmuse Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:06:47am |
The proper bumper stickers are a big deal in CA. They sort of define social order. I finally took off my W'04 stickers after getting vandalized repeatedly. Just couldn't afford it. But now my SUV has NRA stickers on it. Seems to do the trick. Oh, and an SPCA license plate holder, of course.
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LeatherNeckLady Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:06:55am |
Obama has now changed his acceptance speech from the 20,000 seat hall where it is usually held to a 75,000 stadium. Could this man’s ego be any larger? I sure hope the stadium is an open one, because he head is so big it won’t fit otherwise. The arrogance of this guy is beyond words. I predict a major fall before the convention. Something will happen to topple him from his self imposed pedestal of which is now also being supported by his little followers.
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sparrowlake Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:07:18am |
re: #857 MajorPribluda
So shall we create a class of persons who will be taxed but who cannot vote?
Non-citizens cannot currently vote, can they?
Non-citizen residents are now taxed, aren't they?
Therefore I do not follow your argument, since all you are doing is setting up straw men and knocking them down.
For me it is as simple as being against granting visas, work permits and/or citizenship to illegal aliens - and reserving the right to vote for citizens. Period.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:07:27am |
re: #892 rawmuse
Hey, tfk, what do you think of this parcel? Looks like I may need to make my own road to it, or maybe just improve it.
That's nice!
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:07:50am |
re: #894 WriterMom
Totally idiotic. I for one, am in a workplace that has a serious ESTROGEN OVERLOAD.
Oy vey!
Can you buy some testosterone to release through the air vents?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:08:07am |
re: #904 MandyManners
Can you buy some testosterone to release through the air vents?
That didn't come out right.
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JCM Mon, Jul 7, 2008 8:08:38am |
re: #900 rawmuse
The proper bumper stickers are a big deal in CA. They sort of define social order. I finally took off my W'04 stickers after getting vandalized repeatedly. Just couldn't afford it. But now my SUV has NRA stickers on it. Seems to do the trick. Oh, and an SPCA license plate holder, of course.
My W04 is still on my truck. Stay till Jan. 20.
Earns me priceless looks in Seattle.
