No opinions? Well, that leaves me out.

Perhaps misogyny could be defined as the anger of men who have no compassion.

Chesterton is wrong.

Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have only opinions.

Ironic that the overnight thread opens just as I'm about to take my midday lunch break.

/mmm, delicious timezone differences.

//brb

Got WMD?
US removes [550 metric tons of] uranium from Iraq

"The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."

Anyone besides me have an opinion about this?

Because, you know, The Mog is just the safest place on Earth.

The overnight open...can we discuss Jeff Gordons meltdown on the nascar circuit at the 400 or should we keep it more refined as in a Bloomberg anti everything that is fun fundraiser!

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

I'm guessing they're going to recall their mission there. In the name of "efficiency."

Weee...it Sunday!

Wait, I have to go to work tomarrow...#$%^@

Howz bout some Audioslave - Like a Stone .

re: #7 gibsonz

Please kill me now. I wish I knew what his problem was this year, and Kyle Busch is kicking everyone else's tail.

re: #8 laZardo

Yeah, because it's not "efficient" to lose their men to bullets.

We are Christian Taliban.

/where's the stadium, there's women to execute

Only 2 options remain for the CoLB on Obama's website:

1. it is "doctored" at best, or
2. it is forged.

Either option looks bad for Obama.

If the COLB is real, then the image has been doctored. Someone digitally removed the state seal and the top crease. Plus they completely hid the center crease (even Strata and polarik couldn't find it). Why would Obama doctor this image?

re: #5 Yankee Division Son

Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.

1/2 a football field?

1/2 a bomb?

BTW, good evening Lizards!

re: #2 Sharmuta

Misogyny is the anger of men who have no SELF-CONFIDENCE.

re: #2 Sharmuta

Perhaps misogyny could be defined as the anger of men who have no compassion.

...and little to no security in their manhood.

I am seldom angry, yet always have an opinion.

I am not sure what that makes me, but I tend to make OTHER people angry.

"What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, but an absence of self-criticism." - Sidelights on New London and Newer New York
Chesterton

re: #14 ggt

Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.

1/2 a football field?

1/2 a bomb?

BTW, good evening Lizards!

/between 25-30 B52s loaded to the max

re: #17 psyop

yea? well fuck you!

re: #5 Yankee Division Son

mmm... cake...

re: #17 psyop

(just kidding)

I think I'm going to hit the pistol range tomorrow.

I think I'll bring both TundraSage, and TundraWest. I have some concentration to achieve.

re: #20 WindHorse

SEE!?!?!

I don't even try...

*sigh*

re: #18 drmark

Somewhat like people SAYING they want Justice, but only for the other guy... ME wants compassion, mercy, DrMark!

re: #14 ggt

Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.

1/2 a football field?

1/2 a bomb?

BTW, good evening Lizards!

One metric ton is a bit over 2,200 pounds.

re: #15 Carridine

Same sentiment, different words.

GMTA!

re: #23 Noam Sayin'

I brought a Glock 26 Thursday. I don't usually like the plastic guns but the 26 and 30 are a lot of fun.

re: #23 Noam Sayin'

Hey Noam!
Do you like the Taurus? Are they any good? They sure are affordable.

I have a funny feeling this thread is going to morph itself into the much dreaded monday morning open with alarm clocks and heavy traffic at hand!

"I believe what really happens in history is this: the old man is always wrong; and the young people are always wrong about what is wrong with him. The practical form it takes is this: that, while the old man may stand by some stupid custom, the young man always attacks it with some theory that turns out to be equally stupid." - ILN 6-3-22

Chesterton was full of quotesre: #25 Carridine

re: #14 ggt
From the article:

"In April, truck convoys started moving the yellowcake from Tuwaitha to Baghdad's international airport, the official said. Then, for two weeks in May, it was ferried in 37 flights to Diego Garcia, a speck of British territory in the Indian Ocean where the U.S. military maintains a base."

37 flights of (I assume) C130's gives you some idea of how much that really is..

re: #25 Carridine

yes

re: #26 solomonpanting

One metric ton is a bit over 2,200 pounds.

So there's How Many grams of unenriched uranium in one ton of YellowCake?

re: #28 protestshooter

My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.

re: #34 Carridine

Yellowcake is about 80% Uranium Oxide.

Q: What do you call bigotry in Italy ?

A: A redwood. Maybe a sequoia.

re: #22 WindHorse

(I know)

anyone watch the clip on fox news about the woman who sang the black national anthem?

Jesus im pretty sure all the people in america saying they hate their country would be able to find hundreds of millions of people in the world who would kill to trade places with them.

Im Canadian and the self loathing of some Americans makes me go insane, i can't imagine hearing it from my fellow so called citizens daily.

You guys and gals here must have the anger management skills of a buddhist monk.

re: #35 Wyatt Earp

My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.

If I could legally carry I'd probably be partial to them because of the weight and other issues. But as a range gun I like Sig and I have a nice 1911.

re: #30 gibsonz

I have the same feeling!

re: #29 rawmuse

Hey Noam!
Do you like the Taurus? Are they any good? They sure are affordable.

I own two, in .45ACP. Both are great values- they work well.

re: #12 Killian Bundy

We are Christian Taliban.

/where's the stadium, there's women to execute

Is that why you keep grinding that axe?

Excellent quote.

}:)     [Hope all lizards are well tonight, not too sunburned, and happy with their families.]

re: #36 protestshooter

Yellowcake is about 80% Uranium Oxide.

Okay, and there were (550 x 1000) kilograms, therefore
(550 x 80) kilograms of uranium, therefore
4400 kilograms of uranium, therefore

ONE HUGE BOMB or several, even when cooked down for enrichment

re: #43 Salem

Salem that doesn't sound like you!?

re: #39 pegcity

I handle it by telling myself that those that are most pessimistic in our country are also the least likely to breed.

I will be sure to raise my two children right, and thereby secure the future for the sane and reasonable.

re: #42 American Soldier

Cool, I will make one my next buy. I want to buy one a month from now until Obama gets sworn in, while I can. :)

re: #34 Carridine

So there's How Many grams of unenriched uranium in one ton of YellowCake?

A metric ton is one thousand kilograms, a kilogram is one thousand grams, so a metric ton is one million grams (1,000 times 1,000.)
Math over...

re: #35 Wyatt Earp

My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.
---
I love my Glock 20, didn`t go over well and they didn`t sell many, but it is a super 10mm that I think is a great firearm...the knock is that they beat themselves to death under heavy use...I don`t plan on racking thousands of rounds thru it so that isn`t a problem.

re: #43 Salem

Is that why you keep grinding that axe?

/hey, as long as you and your fellow travelers keep insisting that Christians are a clear and present danger to this country, I'm there, grinding away

re: #49 solomonpanting
Solomon, see #45 above

re: #34 Carridine

So there's How Many grams of unenriched uranium in one ton of YellowCake?

What the hell is this, a math test?

Okay, buster! Answer this.
A truck carrying yellowcake leaves Baghdad at 6 pm travelling at twice the speed of a spotted owl and on the road to Basra. A spotted owl carrying a fig leaves Basra and travels 52.4 kilometers when it meets the truck. At what time did the owl leave Basra and how many bushels are in a peck of figs?

re: #49 solomonpanting
You got that right!)

re: #50 gibsonz

My department (Philly PD) uses Glock 17s. I love mine. Lots.
---
I love my Glock 20, didn`t go over well and they didn`t sell many, but it is a super 10mm that I think is a great firearm...the knock is that they beat themselves to death under heavy use...I don`t plan on racking thousands of rounds thru it so that isn`t a problem.

10 mm?

Am I crazy or do I remember reading a while ago that north africa was the only place you could get yellow cake from? Or one of the few places it was mined? Anyone else remember?

re: #53 wolfie

African or European figs?

re: #51 Killian Bundy

/hey, as long as you and your fellow travelers keep insisting that Christians are a clear and present danger to this country, I'm there, grinding away

Well, what specifically is bothering you?

re: #53 wolfie

Wolfie, laughing too hard, gasping for
breath...

re: #45 Carridine

Okay, and there were (550 x 1000) kilograms, therefore
(550 x 80) kilograms of uranium, therefore
4400 kilograms of uranium, therefore

ONE HUGE BOMB or several, even when cooked down for enrichment

Well let's see Uranium Oxide is U3O8, so back of the enveloping it about 68% should be Uranium. But you have to enrich it quite a bit to do something useful with it. I suppose I can look that up...

re: #49 solomonpanting

A metric ton is one thousand kilograms, a kilogram is one thousand grams, so a metric ton is one million grams (1,000 times 1,000.)
Math over...

Yellowcake is not refined, he was asking how much weapons grade material can be derived from said amount of yellowcake. If I am reading it correctly, that is.

Think of it like grain alcohol. One ton of grain makes only a few barrels of liquor. Same with yellowcake to fissionable material.

re: #50 gibsonz
40cal' is better in a Glock!

re: #39 pegcity

It gets very tiresome.
I don't mind the anti-Americanism of the Fwench or others, but the homegrown stuff gets both maddening and boring...if that makes any sense!

re: #50 gibsonz

I just wish our pinhead commish would convert us to the .45 caliber. The 9mm bounces off a dog's head. Heh.

re: #29 rawmuse

Hey Noam!
Do you like the Taurus? Are they any good? They sure are affordable.

Oh, my gosh. I love that weapon. I've fired a couple hundred rounds through it and have not had one misfire, jam, or other such malfunction. The breakdown is a little involved, but it's still a fairly simple piece of machinery.

And, yes. It's relatively inexpensive. I compaired it to a Glock 32 (?), and a Ruger that was roughly equivalent when I was first shopping, and for the price it performed just as well. I encourage you to get one.

...or two.

My first time with the Walther was another situation, which I think I may have caused myself. I may not have oiled the rail before I hit the range, and had some issues rechambering. As I remember, the issue didn't occur until several rounds into my 'therapy.' That's the main reason I'm heading to the range tomorrow - to see if I still have that problem after a good cleaning and lube.

That being said, the PPK is an amazingly simple piece to break down. Yank out the trigger guard and pull the slide back and lift. Yer done.

re: #39 pegcity

Nah, we just remember how lucky we are to have a Bill of Rights and realize that means we have to put up with sh!t we don't like. In the long run, it's worth it.

re: #53 wolfie
Waves hand frantically!
I know, I know!
The number C!

re: #53 wolfie

All I really wanted to know was How Many Grams of USABLE fissile material in 550,000 grams of YellowCake, minus the Sported Owls...

re: #53 wolfie

What the hell is this, a math test?

Okay, buster! Answer this.
A truck carrying yellowcake leaves Baghdad at 6 pm travelling at twice the speed of a spotted owl and on the road to Basra. A spotted owl carrying a fig leaves Basra and travels 52.4 kilometers when it meets the truck. At what time did the owl leave Basra and how many bushels are in a peck of figs?

African or European Owl?

re: #52 Carridine

re: #61 psyop

Yep, you're both on the straight and narrow.

re: #48 rawmuse

Cool, I will make one my next buy. I want to buy one a month from now until Obama gets sworn in, while I can. :)

PT145 Millennium Pro is my daily carry piece. Compact, discreet, excellent handling, inexpensive.
I went window-shopping for a 1911 the day after Heller. If i get enough ahead this month...

/does this .45 make my ass look fat?

re: #64 Wyatt Earp

Um, I meant .40. It's too damned late. Sorry.

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Anyone besides me have an opinion about this?

Because, you know, The Mog is just the safest place on Earth.

Man, those Somalians better not mess with the UN.  Why, the UN'll ... UN'll ...

}:)     [ ... uhm, what, give them a firm talking to?]

re: #55 pegcity

Yep 10mm.

re: #63 wolfie

It gets very tiresome.
I don't mind the anti-Americanism of the Fwench or others, but the homegrown stuff gets both maddening and boring...if that makes any sense!

being a conservative is hard enough in canada, i can't imagine what it must be like in the US.

At least i don't have to defend my country every 2 seconds.

I must say finding dates who aren't total moonbats it tough, i had one girl tell me CUBA was paradise on earth and if only america wasn't mean they would be able to prosper.

I was like er ok, this aint gonna work

re: #56 Yankee Division Son

I know there is a natural (a/k/a made by mother nature) nuclear reactor in North Afrika.

re: #57 jaunte

! :D

re: #73 Kulhwch

They'll give them a firm talking to and maybe put them in "Time Out." Idiots.

re: #68 Carridine

All I really wanted to know was How Many Grams of USABLE fissile material in 550,000 grams of YellowCake, minus the Sported Owls...

I see that I did get your intended question correct. (See post #61).

I am trying to look that up... it seems to be tough to find.

Argh!

Time's up. I must hie me to a nunnery.

Back later in my K suit.

CUL

re: #74 gibsonz

how does the stopping power compare to a 9mm?

re: #80 Carridine

Weet dreams to ya !

re: #62 beachkatie

I bought a 40 cal. Berratta cougar.I was never comfortable with it, I don`t know, could have been me, just didn`t feel comfortable in my hand!

No no no, you see, I'm not a militant atheist. I can't speak for anyone else here, of course. I suppose I was at one time. But I realized it was hopeless. The Christians aren't going anywhere. Now I only slander and ridicule as a mad compulsion.

re: #75 pegcity

OMG, did you laugh out loud?

re: #60 protestshooter

OK, so U-235 is .711% of what you have. You would need to get that to 3% for fuel rods, minimum 20% for a bomb but "weapons grade" is more like 85%. So you need to throw out 99% of the material to have something easy to work with. So your 550 metric tons of yellowcake, becomes 375 tons of uranium, and you end up with maybe a ton of weapons gradeish material.

Depending on purity critical mass for a uranium weapon is maybe 100-1000 pounds, and to get good yield you actually want more than that (ideally almost twice that). So just pulling a number out of my butt, and recognizing there's some rounding and approximations, let's say 5-10 bombs.

re: #83 gibsonz
Glock has become my best friend! My groupings is the best!

re: #84 Salem

No no no, you see, I'm not a militant atheist. I can't speak for anyone else here, of course. I suppose I was at one time. But I realized it was hopeless. The Christians aren't going anywhere. Now I only slander and ridicule as a mad compulsion.

Or the Jews. They aren't going anywhere. hell, none of you religious people are going anywhere. Science and Religion will battle it out until the last day, I'm sure.

re: #83 gibsonz

If I could spell it would be a blessing or a blllesssing

re: #85 ggt

its par for the course here. Lets just say we won't be going on any more dates.

re: #83 gibsonz

Change your grip.

re: #81 pegcity

how does the stopping power compare to a 9mm?

Sheesh! this debate again?

If you hit someone anywhere with a .45ACP, or a .44 Magnum, you may not kill them outright; they will lose interest in whatever it is you are doing (people on PCP being the conspicuous exception- brain or heart shots required).

I had a very busy day and now I am going to sleep...

[Link: thespiritofman.blogspot.com...]

good night every one

re: #84 Salem
Salem , What is your drink of choice to night?

re: #75 pegcity

My sympathies.

We here in America are simply going to have to start taking back our country. When some moonbat stands up and says something stupid, like, "we can't solve our supply shortage by increasing supply" (the "we can't drill our way out of this problem" statement). The majority of us who have more than half a brain need to start shouting these idiots down and stop listening to them. When some idiot says the solution is to bring back the 55 MPH speed limit -- we've got to collectively laugh in their faces and ask for new representation. We have got to stop listening to those who think the First Amendment protects their ability to indoctrinate and spread any type of smut they want, but that "hate speech" should be banned and that political speech 90 days before an election is illegal unless you are a member of the press or that the second amendment doesn't mean what it says or is outdated. This bending over for the left has *got* to stop.

re: #92 American Soldier

im thinking more for people wearing body armor

re: #75 pegcity

I have never understood how a conservative can be married to a moonbat...and yet it does happen
and from time to time it works.
I have enough trouble just handling a liberal sister w/ her moonbat husband.

re: #81 pegcity

Supposedly a pretty hot load thus leading to the gun beating itself to death...don`t have the ballistics at hand but a huge difference.

re: #93 winston06
Weet dreams to ya!

re: #79 psyop

I see that I did get your intended question correct. (See post #61).

I am trying to look that up... it seems to be tough to find.

One thing's for sure, Hussein wasn't up to any good with 550 metric tons of it. I don't think he was planing new planters for the south palace grounds..

re: #86 protestshooter

By the way, that's very back of the envelope, and yellowcake varies a lot in purity, so if you hear somebody official say it's two or twenty I'd believe that over my calculation.

re: #79 psyop

I see that I did get your intended question correct. (See post #61).

I am trying to look that up... it seems to be tough to find.

If you find a number other than my calculation above I'd love to see it.

re: #95 AZfederalist

America is the only country allowed to not prosper, well besides Israel.

You can't drill for oil, or refine it. You aren't allowed nuclear energy, or proper borders.

Hell the governement of Canada is in the nuclear reactor selling business but you don't hearing anyone whining about it.

I guess your prosperity isn't fair to the lazy and stupid.

re: #95 AZfederalist

I remember that the First Amendment may say they have a right to speak, it implies that I have a choice to listen or not.

Think Code Pink or Shehag -- they get lots of press, but no one but the press is at their events.

re: #81 pegcity

how does the stopping power compare to a 9mm?

I've been told on this forum numerous times, that a .40 is the best home defense option, other than you're o'l pal Mossberg. Reason being is that the round doesn't travel much farther than the intended target. However, frangible bullets make 9mm and 45s just as 'stoply.'

Then again, American Soldier puts it nicely at #92. Unless you're in a heavy crack neighborhood, you're probably good with a 9mm.

re: #102 protestshooter
Your name is protester right? I get it!:)

re: #98 gibsonz

i've been watching too much future weapons and weaponology.

re: #88 Salem

Or the Jews. They aren't going anywhere. hell, none of you religious people are going anywhere. Science and Religion will battle it out until the last day, I'm sure.

/Good luck, you'll need it

re: #94 beachkatie

Salem , What is your drink of choice to night?

Oh, it's not that.

re: #86 protestshooter

This wiki page says 1/6th - 1/8th yield per ton... (+/- many factors)

/no knowledge, just reporting what I've found

re: #106 beachkatie

Your name is protester right? I get it!:)

It's Protest Shooter. I take pictures at protests - much like Zombie and Ringo and No Submission.

re: #106 beachkatie
Shootaville or sh it a ville?

re: #78 Wyatt Earp

re: #73 Kulhwch

They'll give them a firm talking to and maybe put them in "Time Out." Idiots.

Isn't the word 'idiots' a redundancy when talking about the UN?

}:)     [The UN will probably withhold their deposit, come to think of it.]

re: #87 beachkatie

Glock has become my best friend! My groupings is the best!

glocks are the only handguns I've ever found that don't like me... probably my fault, yet true, anyhow.

re: #96 pegcity

im thinking more for people wearing body armor

A friend of mine, while an MP, shot up an '80s era flak jacket. At 15m or further, it stopped everything up to .45ACP. Any rifle round defeated it.

Current body armor with plates will stop some rifle rounds. The poster boy for that was the medic sniped by some jihadis- hit in the chest, went down, got back up, and shot them both. Photos of his bruised but un-pierced chest were circulated by DOD as an object lesson for those who hate wearing armor.

Armor is rated for various threat levels.

The other thing I'd love to know, when did he obtain all that? (sanctions?) Did the UN know about it after all the "inspections"?

re: #109 Salem
It is some thing! I read you alot!

re: #108 Killian Bundy

/Good luck, you'll need it

I'm afraid I don't believe in luck, either.

Look man, I'm just trying to keep things with a little ribaldry. Don't be so stern all the time, huh?

re: #51 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian! Uh, who is it out here who's calling Christians a clear and present danger to this country?
And were they talking about Christians or Christians and Jews (you know, the old Judeo-Christian ethic)?

re: #113 Kulhwch

Definitely redundant!

Keep things light_typo

re: #110 slokat

This wiki page says 1/6th - 1/8th yield per ton... (+/- many factors)

/no knowledge, just reporting what I've found

That's a cool page, actually.

re: #107 pegcity

Me too...that is why I always have the Bushmaster with a double stack thirty nearby just in case...ya gotta love proven technology!

(Just got back from lunch)

re: #115 American Soldier

The poster boy for that was the medic sniped by some jihadis- hit in the chest, went down, got back up, and shot them both.

In the words of Nelson Muntz: "HA HA!" Nice one.

re: #56 Yankee Division Son I remember that Nigeria apparently has a LOT of yellowcake, but don't know about the rest of Africa. Sorry.

re: #116 Yankee Division Son

The other thing I'd love to know, when did he obtain all that? (sanctions?) Did the UN know about it after all the "inspections"?

As I recall it's from back in the day.

-Hamas fires rockets into Israel from Gaza
-Israel responds by (among other acts) by cutting back on fuel supplies
-There is not enough fuel for sewage treatment plants in Gaza-
- When a toilet is flushed in Gaza City, the waste sloshes straight into the Mediterranean

-Ooh ooh that smell...

re: #125 realwest

I remember that Nigeria apparently has a LOT of yellowcake, but don't know about the rest of Africa. Sorry.

Anybody who mines Uranium produces it. As I recall quite a bit of it is in the US, and Canada too maybe? If anybody cares they can just Google around for where Uranium is mined.

re: #62 beachkatie
Hey beachkatie, how are ya tonight? Didja get creamed by those thunder and lightning storms like we did?
Oh, and btw, .40 caliber is best in an S&W, not a glock.

re: #88 Salem

Or the Jews. They aren't going anywhere. hell, none of you religious people are going anywhere. Science and Religion will battle it out until the last day, I'm sure.

That's a good experiment.
We all leave & you get to see if absence of religion makes a difference.
I can't falsify it at the moment, but it smells like good science!

good bye! thanks for the loaves & fishes?

re: #105 Noam Sayin'

I've been told on this forum numerous times, that a .40 is the best home defense option, other than you're o'l pal Mossberg. Reason being is that the round doesn't travel much farther than the intended target. However, frangible bullets make 9mm and 45s just as 'stoply.'

Then again, American Soldier puts it nicely at #92. Unless you're in a heavy crack neighborhood, you're probably good with a 9mm.

Any handgun under .40 needs to be shot with hollow point ammunition.

/Federal Hydra-Shok rounds are state of the art

re: #117 beachkatie

It is some thing! I read you alot!

Oh, well thanks. I just thought KB had something to get off his chest.

Interesting things are happening here...

re: #119 realwest

Following the posts back to the original, apparently it has to do with my remarks about the Puritans in the previous thread.

re: #127 solomonpanting

Ah, yes.
How to turn a Mediterranean beach resort into a sludge dump.
I know what we can do!
Let's give them a state!

re: #123 gibsonz

Hey it's going to be us girls to do what needs to be done! be ready , and do what need's to be done! :)

re: #125 realwest

I remember that Nigeria apparently has a LOT of yellowcake, but don't know about the rest of Africa. Sorry.

Seems to me the story the Brits gave out was that Saddam's lieutenant was bargaining in Niger for yellowcake.
I wonder if there's anyway to trace the stuff...any geological clue.

Oh, and btw, .40 caliber is best in an S&W, not a glock.

yea, I'd have to agree. Began policing with a SW 4906 for the longest time then went to a Glock, .357 round with .40 powder. Shot MUCH better with the Smith no matter how much I pratice.

From the article:
"U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site — surrounded by huge sand berms — following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns."

re: #127 solomonpanting

Munzir Shiblak, of Gaza's sewage utility, said he needs 40,000 gallons of fuel a month to treat the extra waste. From January to April, he said, the plants received less than half that, both because of Israeli sanctions and because of Hamas "mismanagement."

Semi-flying-pig moment? Note the quote bunnies around mismanagement, those were already in the article.

re: #137 wtc394

yea, I'd have to agree. Began policing with a SW 4906 for the longest time then went to a Glock, .357 round with .40 powder. Shot MUCH better with the Smith no matter how much I pratice.

/S&W is the Rolls Royce of handguns

re: #104 ggt

I remember that the First Amendment may say they have a right to speak, it implies that I have a choice to listen or not.

Think Code Pink or Shehag -- they get lots of press, but no one but the press is at their events.

Oh, absolutely true. My gripe is with those who want to silence the ability to speak as the founders intended -- they meant for people to be able to speak out in the public square. As you say, people, by choice may choose not to listen, but the right to speak is what is being affirmed. In our day, the public square includes the airwaves, yet the government says that only candidates or the press are allowed airtime 90 days prior to an election.

My other fuss here is the fact that the people you cite above are given air time and the ability to publicly denigrate the country that grants them the right to make such speech without retribution; yet those are the same persons who will scream and shout down anyone who might say something that doesn't fit within their perception of "permissible" or "correct" speech.

re: #130 slokat

That's a good experiment.
We all leave & you get to see if absence of religion makes a difference.
I can't falsify it at the moment, but it smells like good science!

good bye! thanks for the loaves & fishes?

I think the 20th century had enough of those experiments.

re: #129 realwest
Yes real west we had those thunderstorms!Wow! Much needed Rain here! Hope you had a great 4Th!Lov ya mean it!:)

re: #140 Killian Bundy

yea, and when I got home, I appreciated the safety along with the mag drop safety. That actually saved a co-worker years ago.

re: #105 Noam Sayin'

HEY NOAM! How are you tonight my friend?! Well, I hope!
I'm a big fan of the .40 caliber S&W, but can't imagine saying that it or anyother handgun is a better home defense weapon than Mr. Mossberg.
Hell, just the sound a racking one in the chamber can sometimes be enough to scare off a burglar!

Rosie Odonnell said the christians are more dangerous than the muslim extremists...and she would know ...right?re: #119 realwest

re: #128 protestshooter
There may very well be a LOT of yellowcake here in the US, but the greenies won't let us do anything with it!
Fuck 'em.

re: #142 wolfie

You will find a different in a believes soon!

re: #140 Killian Bundy

/S&W is the Rolls Royce of handguns

But you only get six.

Hey I found an article [Link: archive.newsmax.com...] that says 142 bombs from that much material but they're using a figure of 25 kilograms per weapon which is really low - you can probably get it down that far with some tricks but a first generation bomb with any kind of decent yield is going to use a lot more than that so I think it's an inflated figure.

re: #133 laZardo Um, what did you say about Christians in the previous thread (or better yet, just give me a link to your comment!).

re: #88 Salem

Should I pelt you with latkes, then, or Ploomie's matzo balls? ;)

re: #145 realwest

Hell, just the sound a racking one in the chamber can sometimes be enough to scare off a burglar!

Exactly.

I believe it's called, "The Pucker Factor."

How you doin' my friend?

re: #145 realwest

Hell, just the sound a racking one in the chamber can sometimes be enough to scare off a burglar!
---
Nothing is more potent at close quarters than a 12 guage pump loaded with 00 and 4 buck staggered every other round!...what one won`t get the other will...

re: #149 Noam Sayin'

My Birthday is the 16Th ! Can 't wait to see what happens! Our lady of mount Carmel!

re: #142 wolfie

I think the 20th century had enough of those experiments.

wasn't equating annihilation with leaving.

was sparring with Salem along the lines of the dolphin thanking the humans for all the fish before they shipped out...

what would happen if only atheist were left? Would his theories prove true?

that's all. lighthearted, not apocalyptic.

re: #143 beachkatie
Yes, we did indeed have a fine Independence Day and I'm glad you did too - and love ya right back, mean it too!

re: #151 realwest

Um, what did you say about Christians in the previous thread (or better yet, just give me a link to your comment!).

Here's what lazardo said:

I don't think the first white settlers - essentially the Christian Taliban with extra witch hunting - would have foreseen that little clause in the Constitution 120-or-so-years from their first landing either.

Houston, do you see the problem?

re: #152 NY Nana

Should I pelt you with latkes, then, or Ploomie's matzo balls? ;)

Ooh! Pelt him w/ ploomie's matzo.
I want the latkes !

re: #149 Noam Sayin'

Oops.

Thinking simply .357.

Forgot all about those other handguns that S&W makes. My bad.

re: #139 laZardo

Semi-flying-pig moment? Note the quote bunnies around mismanagement, those were already in the article.

And it could be that Hamas mismanagement is 80% of the problem, less the owls.

re: #149 Noam Sayin'

But you only get six.

Oh, you're fixated on revolvers.

/S&W make fine pistols, ten rounds, no recoil

re: #155 beachkatie
I shouldn't have told you that!:0

re: #105 Noam Sayin'

Hey, Noam? Tell your attorneys that Connecticut is too cold for me. I'd like this, instead.

re: #151 realwest

I referred to the early Puritan colonials as the "Christian Taliban" (in the context of their "society" then and how they would not have seen the 1st Amendment coming 100 years later) and was drawn and quartered for it.

Jaunte actually replied to your post regarding it in the previous thread.

re: #146 ReaganRepublican Aw, geez, did this all start with that tart ? I don't hardly remember anyone trying so hard to masquerade as a "thinking" person as much as Rosie O'Donnel except for, perhaps, Cindy Sheehan.

re: #156 slokat

We would probably be super-cyborgs piloting mecha by 2100. (:

Then an EMP would wipe us all out in 2102. ;_;

/lololol

re: #156 slokat

Yeah. I didn't mean to sound so grim, really.
Actually, I didn't sound that grim.
And I had a mischievous, but not snarky, little grin.
But it came out typed grim. :(

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Yep. See my #160.

re: #168 wolfie
Remember we are family!

Anyone else notice that there are several repeat postings of a story about Ezra Levant defending the Nazi indoctrination of a child and comparing it to some troofer idiot bringing his daughter to publically proclaim their ignorance?

Anyone else nauseated at this moral equivalence?

re: #53 wolfie

What the hell is this, a math test?

Okay, buster! Answer this.
A truck carrying yellowcake leaves Baghdad at 6 pm travelling at twice the speed of a spotted owl and on the road to Basra. A spotted owl carrying a fig leaves Basra and travels 52.4 kilometers when it meets the truck. At what time did the owl leave Basra and how many bushels are in a peck of figs?

i'm not sure but spotted owl tastes a lot like bald eagle. %-)

re: #170 beachkatie

Remember we are family!

Hah! If we really were family, Nana would pass me one of those latkes she dangled in front of us!

re: #172 redc1c4

i'm not sure but spotted owl tastes a lot like bald eagle. %-)

needs fava beans & a good chianti?

re: #165 laZardo

I referred to the early Puritan colonials as the "Christian Taliban" (in the context of their "society" then and how they would not have seen the 1st Amendment coming 100 years later) and was drawn and quartered for it.

/because, of course, we judge modern society by what happened more than two centuries ago

re: #149 Noam Sayin'
"But you only get six." ?!
"Smith & Wesson produces more pistol models and chamberings than any other handgun manufacturer in the world making us the premium handgun manufacturer in terms of pistol variety, quality and performance."
Link is: [Link: www.smith-wesson.com...]
And see my personal fav, Model SW40VE Pistol - Allied Forces!

re: #172 redc1c4

Now that was REALLY naughty! :)

re: #173 wolfie
She is part of Lady Freedom!

re: #136 wolfie

wasn't that the origins of the "Valerie Plame Affair"? I had a hard time getting that one straight. They'll probably turn it into a bad made-for-TV mini-drama.

re: #168 wolfie

no problem, I cook really good potato pancakes, too. Hhmm, Lutheran Latkes?

re: #153 Noam Sayin' Well I'm doing ok, my friend, just getting a little bit sleepy right now!
Hey, how was your Independence Day? Did you have fun or rain?!

re: #119 realwest

Hey Killian! Uh, who is it out here who's calling Christians a clear and present danger to this country?
And were they talking about Christians or Christians and Jews (you know, the old Judeo-Christian ethic)?

Christians, Jews, wassa difference? They both believe in the same Intelligent Designer, right? After all, this isn't about the Bible, it's about the Glory of Science!

No, but seriously, the last couple of threads have been peppered with ruminations about whether the ID advocate's mindsets could be compared to the jihadists. But it could be argued that this line came about because of all the protests that we ought to be worried about the jihadists to the exclusion of the DI by people who were, conspicuously or not, arguing the "evolution is only a theory" meme.

Folks must understand by now that this debate isn't going away. I suppose the election and Iran and all that goes with those will move it to the back burner for awhile, though I can only surmise. Obviously, some will here be grateful for the respite, no matter how gory or frightful the interrupting issue is.

re: #164 MandyManners

Hey, Noam? Tell your attorneys that Connecticut is too cold for me. I'd like this, instead.

Ah, honey. We're not even married yet and you're already planning our divorce?

/At least let me nail ya a couple times to see if it's worth the effort.

;)

re: #159 wolfie

Ooh! Pelt him w/ ploomie's matzo.
I want the latkes !

Take all you want! I have to let Salem decide re Ploomie's matzo balls.

I actually used to grate the potatoes for latkes, until the food processor was invented, probably by a Jewish inventor who was tired of bleeding knuckles every Hannuka! ;) I never seem to get out of the kitchen, though, as the family sneaks in and takes the ones that are finished frying, and draining on paper towels, and grabs them and run away to eat them at the table. It really is hilarious.

I only make them for Hannuka...fried foods are something we stay away from, but I have also made them baked, and it is just not the same.

I have a fool-proof recipe that gives the measurements...no guesswork involved!

re: #175 Killian Bundy

/because, of course, we judge modern society by what happened more than two centuries ago

I'd measure from Jamestown, 1607. It's late, but I'm guessing that was somewhere around 400 years ago.

re: #166 realwest

Aw, geez, did this all start with that tart ? I don't hardly remember anyone trying so hard to masquerade as a "thinking" person as much as Rosie O'Donnel except for, perhaps, Cindy Sheehan.

There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

re: #173 wolfie

Nana would pass me one of those latkes she dangled in front of us!

So virtual latkes aren't good enough? Harrumph!

re: #141 AZfederalist

Yeah, that 90 day thing p!$$es me off too! And as for the whacko's getting air-time -- MSM is a product. They show what sells. Everybit of the MSM is what the Enquirer used to be. Now, sadly, the Enquirer is a notch above.

I wear the bigot badge with pride, along with my racist, homophobe, warmonger badges. Thanks kos kidz!

re: #172 redc1c4

Hey red*, have you ever heard these guys? I'd heard the name but never heard their music. Someone I subscribe to on YouTube just uploaded this yesterday. Pretty cool, imo.

*and any others who listened to hardcore

Hey rw! how you doin'?

re: #39 pegcity

anyone watch the clip on fox news about the woman who sang the black national anthem?

Jesus im pretty sure all the people in america saying they hate their country would be able to find hundreds of millions of people in the world who would kill to trade places with them.

Im Canadian and the self loathing of some Americans makes me go insane, i can't imagine hearing it from my fellow so called citizens daily.

You guys and gals here must have the anger management skills of a buddhist monk.

Thing is...
There's a lot more of us than there are of them.

And we're carryin'

re: #158 EC Marm Oh, dear. Well remember EC, he is a tad young and therefore ignorant - but I repeat myself!

re: #150 protestshooter
Nice Job! Thanks. Way to go W and troops.

re: #181 realwest
We needed it bad here now! But they decided our taxes need to go up because of global warming...Sheee!

re: #186 The Other Les

There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

Maybe he meant Munster Gas?

re: #179 ggt

wasn't that the origins of the "Valerie Plame Affair"? I had a hard time getting that one straight. They'll probably turn it into a bad made-for-TV mini-drama.

Yes, you're right.
And then Joe Wilson, Plame's husband, claimed he couldn't find anyone in Niger who knew about it..because the bartender in his fancy hotel didn't...and the poolboy didn't...and well, you know how that goes. So that DISPROVED Britishintelligence...and YES. I think the whole absurd little media drama is coming back to me!

re: #193 realwest

Well shee-fucking-eesh. Sorry if I spiked your tempers there. Even if I had also remarked up that thread that society evolved from what it was almost 400 years ago.

re: #183 Noam Sayin'

Ah, honey. We're not even married yet and you're already planning our divorce?

/At least let me nail ya a couple times to see if it's worth the effort.

;)

Say "good-night", Noam.

/Like you'd even hafta' ask.

I'm outta' here.

re: #182 Salem

Christians, Jews, wassa difference? They both believe in the same Intelligent Designer, right? After all, this isn't about the Bible, it's about the Glory of Science!

No, but seriously, the last couple of threads have been peppered with ruminations about whether the ID advocate's mindsets could be compared to the jihadists. But it could be argued that this line came about because of all the protests that we ought to be worried about the jihadists to the exclusion of the DI by people who were, conspicuously or not, arguing the "evolution is only a theory" meme.

Folks must understand by now that this debate isn't going away. I suppose the election and Iran and all that goes with those will move it to the back burner for awhile, though I can only surmise. Obviously, some will here be grateful for the respite, no matter how gory or frightful the interrupting issue is.

/keep digging, your friends will eventually come to your rescue

re: #165 laZardo Ah, didn't see my friend Juante's reply, sorry.
But you shoulda been drawn and quarterd for comparing the Puritans to Taliban. The differences are so great in the context of today's society that we'd need an entire thread to even begin to explore it.
Y'all shoulda compared the Inquistioners to the Taliban and might have received a little less of the battering you did receive!

re: #152 NY Nana

Should I pelt you with latkes, then, or Ploomie's matzo balls? ;)

Actually, I can't think of many Jews I would want to go away, off the top of my head. Except maybe Ohlmert.

re: #196 Desert Dog

Maybe he meant Munster Gas?

Nah. I think he was reflexively posturing as a mentally superior being.

re: #197 wolfie
weetdreams to ya wolfie! 1:32 am weet dream to ya all!Luv ya mean it!

re: #197 wolfie

Yes, you're right.
And then Joe Wilson, Plame's husband, claimed he couldn't find anyone in Niger who knew about it..because the bartender in his fancy hotel didn't...and the poolboy didn't...and well, you know how that goes. So that DISPROVED Britishintelligence...and YES. I think the whole absurd little media drama is coming back to me!

well, if I hung out at the bar at the Niger Hilton and asked the other barflies if they saw any uranium, I would get the same answers that Sherlock Wilson got on his trip too...Joe Wilson is a liar and a hack for the left...if he told me the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, I would doubt it until I saw it for myself

re: #186 The Other Les

there are really people that ignorant?

re: #171 Dan G. Uh, y'all got any links for that? Sure doesn't sound like him at all.

re: #202 realwest

The Inquisition didn't colonize America. Spain did, but they hardly had more than la Ciudad de la Nuestra Senora de Los Angeles and a few scattered monasteries.

Either way, it's batterings like those that are the reason I'm double-jaded with both sides of the aisle.

re: #209 laZardo

The Inquisition didn't colonize America. Spain did, but they hardly had more than la Ciudad de la Nuestra Senora de Los Angeles and a few scattered monasteries.

Either way, it's batterings like those that are the reason I'm double-jaded with both sides of the aisle.

/thus spake moonbaticus

re: #184 NY Nana

If it's a secret recipe, I'll understand.
But if it isn't, I'd love to have it sometime!

re: #156 slokat

wasn't equating annihilation with leaving.

was sparring with Salem along the lines of the dolphin thanking the humans for all the fish before they shipped out...

what would happen if only atheist were left? Would his theories prove true?

that's all. lighthearted, not apocalyptic.

We'd probably stay up all night drinking. IOW, same as usual. ;)

re: #179 ggt Hey there
{ggt} by golly you're right! Joe Wilson was sent to see if Nigeria was selling yellowcake to Iran or Iraq (I've forgotten whom) while his CIA superdupersecretagent wife Valierie Plame was talking about it at cocktail parties! YES, I DO REMEMBER THAT NOW!
Thanks!

re: #207 ggt

there are really people that ignorant?

Yes.

I call them The Left.

re: #181 realwest

Hey, how was your Independence Day? Did you have fun or rain?!

Drove up to see the family yesterday. Caught a good tailwind so my gas mileage was pretty good - for a Jeep Wrangler.

Wind stayed pretty heavy all day an into the night, so the annual paddle boat cruise with my mom was out of the question - no fishing, either.

Hung out with Dad most of the time. He can't believe I won't vote Democrat anymore, and I can't believe he wants to vote for Obama - after all I've told him about the man. And I really explained a lot about the asshole. But this is the last presidential election in which he'll be able to participate (doctors gave him a year), and I think he really wants to vote for an African American. I can't counter that. Minnesota's going to go for Obama anyway.

Slept in a tent in the yard. Nice, lake breezes blowing through.

re: #213 realwest

Hey there
{ggt} by golly you're right! Joe Wilson was sent to see if Nigeria was selling yellowcake to Iran or Iraq (I've forgotten whom) while his CIA superdupersecretagent wife Valierie Plame was talking about it at cocktail parties! YES, I DO REMEMBER THAT NOW!
Thanks!

OH NO, YOU JUST OUTED VALERIE PLAME!

I have discovered the "tipping point" between the Sunday night open thread and the Monday morning open thread...it is a bottle of Miller hidden between the jar of sweet relish and the box of "arm and hammer"...shall we call it the last one or the first one ?

re: #182 Salem After all the threads we've had out here, I'm actually surprised that anyone IS trying to debate it!
Anyway, elections are more fun - there's so much more to make fun of!

re: #186 The Other Les

Leet? More like a Noob.

re: #199 MandyManners

Say "good-night", Noam.

/Like you'd even hafta' ask.

G'night, darlin.

Grr...

re: #201 Killian Bundy

/keep digging, your friends will eventually come to your rescue

Well, you know, they probably have to catch up on their sleep. Defending science and reason around the clock and all that.

re: #216 MajorPribluda

You will know what to do when the time comes! Love you mean it! when your time comes!

re: #219 laZardo

Leet? More like a Noob.

As I said. A pretender to a superior status.

re: #186 The Other Les
ROTFLMAO! The absolutely stunning ignorance displayed by moobats cannot be denied! They are an (unwittingly) never ending source of laughter!

re: #185 EC Marm

re: #210 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry to both of you, all right? Jeez.

re: #205 beachkatie

Weet dreams to you, too ! :)

re: #222 beachkatie

I wAS KIDDING RIGHT! :0

re: #203 Salem

Actually, I can't think of many Jews I would want to go away, off the top of my head. Except maybe Ohlmert.

I would throw a pary. He is a danger to Israel, and a thug to boot. I am sure he would run to Fwance. IIRC, his son the draft dodger lives there...how Olmert has gotten away with it?

/Wanna throw Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chumpsky, along with Soros under the bus?

re: #218 realwest

After all the threads we've had out here, I'm actually surprised that anyone IS trying to debate it!
Anyway, elections are more fun - there's so much more to make fun of!

Imagine how keen it would be if our candidate was Giuliani instead of McCain. No doubt it will be interesting, though. Since we're fortunate enough to live in such interesting times.

re: #186 The Other Les

There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

When calling somebody an ignorant fool, make sure you have your facts straight first... Oy vey.

Maybe we would have found more bad stuff in Iraq if we had been looking for Terroris, Uraniu and Plutoniu.

G-d help us all...

re: #191 ggt ah ok, thanks, please see my #213!

re: #225 laZardo

re: #210 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry to both of you, all right? Jeez.

/will you pray for us?

re: #232 Killian Bundy
I love you too!

re: #211 wolfie

I will leave my nic blue, and you can email me. I think I have it as a file that I can attach.

Speaking of yellow cake, BTW...

re: #198 laZardo
laZardo, you know I like you and respect you, but 'tis FAAAR too late here for me to go into it with you now!
Just chill, please.

re: #212 Salem

We'd probably stay up all night drinking. IOW, same as usual. ;)

personally I think society would stratify between the enlightened & the unenlightened, once the unenlightened tired of raiding things from the empty buildings.

In crude terms Science v/s the Mob.

Ivory towers would be real places of refuge.

but, then again, I've read more than my share of Sci Fi

re: #232 Killian Bundy

I will try to stop getting all Nietzsche like that on threads, will that do?

half-/

re: #5 Yankee Division Son

Got WMD?
US removes [550 metric tons of] uranium from Iraq

"The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."

Just for the record, yellowcake, is the concentrate of uranium-bearing minerals extracted from the raw ore. That is the product that is trucked from the mill on the mine-site. It's a raw material, nothing more, and it would take a great deal of industrial infrastructure to turn it into fissionable uranium metal or U3O8 reactor fuel.

Yellowcake, in and of itself, is not a "weapon of mass destruction" anymore than, say 500 barrels of toluene (precursor to TNT) is a "weapon of mass destruction". Possession of the stuff is indicative of intent, and I am glad to see it in safe hands at last, but it did not mean that Saddam was merely weeks away from being able to deploy a nuclear bomb.

An old acquaintance called today, bored and looking for something to do. So I spent several hours between her thighs.

/ I love my ‘85 Shadow

// g'night, all

re: #237 laZardo

Be sweet! :) :0 :)

re: #186 The Other Les

There was the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@***)
Subject: (none)

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

To borrow a line from the venerable Lizard Zombie, that takes a special kind of stupid.

"Muster Gas"? Do you have a link to its dissertation on "Aged Orange"?
/

re: #215 Noam Sayin'
ah shit, Noam, I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad only having a year yet to go - please remember that doctors are wrong about that kinda stuff all the time.
Over THREE YEARS ago when my prostate cancer was "discovered" the first two doctors to see me said I had maybe 8 months to go.
Far as I'm concerned, only God determines when you're time is up.
But it's still crappy news to hear. Hey, if y'all get a chance and feel like it, drop me a line my good friend.

re: #228 NY Nana

I would throw a pary. He is a danger to Israel, and a thug to boot. I am sure he would run to Fwance. IIRC, his son the draft dodger lives there...how Olmert has gotten away with it?

/Wanna throw Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chumpsky, along with Soros under the bus?

Might as well, they bought the damned thing!

re: #240 beachkatie
Ok... you are making me old before my time...Mc Cain Man!

re: #237 laZardo

I will try to stop getting all Nietzsche like that on threads, will that do?

half-/

Good thinking.

/better than being on the outside looking in

re: #14 ggt

Help me out here, exactly how much is 550 metric tons.

1/2 a football field?

1/2 a bomb?

BTW, good evening Lizards!

About 605 "short" tons (2000 lb.), so about 1.21 million pounds. Probably would yield enough U235 to make a bomb, but going from yellowcake to U235 is a mighty difficult undertaking.

Any Lizards here eat grits?

Anyone who served in the military knows the best meal served in the chowhall is breakfast (lunch and dinner suck) and for some reason I Loved eating Army grits...I brought the habit home with me and now my kids and I eat our grits in the morning.

Now Grits (done right) has to be cooked slow (10-15 min)...boil some water, a pinch of salt and mix in a little grits at a time and don't walk away...you gotta keep stirring or it gets lumpy.

Well Southerners I learned, really take their grits seriously and they got all kinda crazy recipes for grits...now the only way to eat grits properly is with milk, sugar and a little piece of butter mixed in.

re: #244 beachkatie
Sweet dreams to all green footballers!

re: #246 Alberta Oil Peon

About 605 "short" tons (2000 lb.), so about 1.21 million pounds. Probably would yield enough U235 to make a bomb, but going from yellowcake to U235 is a mighty difficult undertaking.

/not for lack of trying

re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth

To borrow a line from the venerable Lizard Zombie, that takes a special kind of stupid.

"Muster Gas"? Do you have a link to its dissertation on "Aged Orange"?
/

I'm afraid I don't.

re: #248 beachkatie

good night Katie... sleep well!

re: #247 Maximu§

But don't call it polenta. ;)

/heathen, no cheese?
//savory kinda guy here.

re: #13 faraway

Only 2 options remain for the CoLB on Obama's website:

1. it is "doctored" at best, or
2. it is forged.

Either option looks bad for Obama.

If the COLB is real, then the image has been doctored. Someone digitally removed the state seal and the top crease. Plus they completely hid the center crease (even Strata and polarik couldn't find it). Why would Obama doctor this image?

It is a fake. What is posted is supposed to be an abstract of the original document. I have obtained copies of my own BC, both abstract and complete.

The Obama BC, as posted, is in color. Scanning my own BC, it comes out in black and white. and one word comes through clearly. That word is "VOID".
Both of my BC copies (abstract and full) include watermarks that can't be scanned. Both include embossing, which can't be scanned. The embossing can only be felt.

The paper they were printed on appears to be from the "American Bank Note Company". I know this because the full form has that printed on it. Companies and governments tend to buy from one supplier. They get better discounts that way.

If you want to verify this, you can go to the state where you were born, and go to the proper site. Probably the health department, although that may vary from state to state. Vital Records would be the other option.

Then scan it and see what it looks like.

If you think that sounds hard, try getting a certified copy of your DD-214. I went through the DVA, and had to send proof of who I was to the National Archives, before it would be processed.

I really hate to think about what I will have to go through to get a copy of my fathers service record.

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I really gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

re: #247 Maximu§

best grits I've ever seen was on someone else's plate while I was enjoying biscuits 'n gravy!

/

re: #251 WindHorse
Be sweet to all Please! :)

re: #252 BlueCanuck

But don't call it polenta. ;)

/heathen, no cheese?
//savory kinda guy here.

OMG...Cheese? Thats right, Southerners put cheese in their grits...is that American cheese?

re: #256 beachkatie

love ya mean it...

re: #247 Maximu§

Wth's grits?

/seriously, has heard of them but isn't sure...

re: #254 realwest

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I really gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

Nite RW

re: #247 Maximu§

Sugar in grits is a mortal sin in the South.

/Southerner
//also no sugar in cornbread, thankyouverymuch ;)